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Too good for this world edition

>What does each element do?
http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Status+Effects

>Little things to know

Your amrita counter turns gold when you have enough to level up.

If you're going to sell your gear, break it down first and sell the materials because they are worth more.

Using spirit stones will charge your spirit weapon.

>What should I do with the armour/weapons I don't want/use?
Purple/Blue = Disassemble (Then use the blue mats to forge a purple if you have enough)
Yellow/White = Sell or you can give it to the kodamas for amrita and the odd free item.

>What does the summoning candle do?
It returns your guardian spirit to you when you die along with the amrita you collected, this saves time running back to your grave and also takes away the risk of losing all your amrita before you reach your grave

>Should I use soul match?
Honestly, no, not unless you have basically finished the game and have a weapon with some really great stats. As you progress you will get a steady flow of new weapons and armour that is better than what you have. Don't waste your money on soul matching until later.

>Why do people keep mentioning "smithing texts"?
Bosses tend to drop pieces of their armour when you defeat them, these pieces are good but they often require investment into skill or strength etc. Very rarely they will drop a smithing text which allows you to forge their armour/weapon. This is a great advantage because your forged gear has lower requirements and you don't have to farm the boss all the time for more pieces.

>How do I join a clan?
It unlocks as you progress, everything will be daijoubu.

>Which clan should I join?
Whichever one has a bonus that you think will benefit your build the most. Don't worry if the clan you chose is on the losing side (red or blue team), we've learnt this week that clans can change colour if one is dominating too much.

>Who is the best girl?
It's objectively Fuku
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2KAT
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SHOBU
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>all souls come and go in cycles
what did he mean?
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where do I find broken bullshit builds
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>>168354031
sloth+carnage+???????????
ur done
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Nioh's atmosphere is really fucking underrated
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>>168354069
add pheonix and 99 soulstones
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>>168354031
make them yourself. it's not hard to tell what kind of effects synergize with other effects and make you strong as fuck
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>>168354134
perfect
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>Awakening
>cast speed so high can combo my melee weapons into offensive or debuff talismans freely
Is this the best mystic art in the game?
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>>168354110
yeah it's hit or miss but there's a lot in there worth picking up on. lots of levels have unique standout designs like sekigahara or the ninja castle. for me the final palace was a big deal because of how much it feels like Shinobi
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Does the revenant skin wear your armor, or is it a preset appearance?

It's the only one i have any interest in, as I don't really want to play as any of these other bozos
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>Doing Random Encounters Torii Gate
>Player is a Soulsfag who can't resist checking every fucking item in the map
>Gestures towards Kodamas and then ignores me when I try to lead him towards them

I just had some fucker run off and risk his life a dozen times rather than come see what I was doing and where I was sitting. I was next to a new Shrine and the fucker just wouldn't fucking listen. He spent 30 seconds whistling at me to come follow him fight a couple trash mobs and grab a singular Kodama.

IF YOU SUMMON SOMEBODY, FUCKING FOLLOW THEM. YOU ASKED FOR A GUIDE/CARRY. I'M NOT GONNA FOLLOW YOU AROUND LIKE A DOG ON A FUCKING LEASH.
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>>168354031
>typical Souls fans
Why not ask the e-celeb you're sucking off?
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>>168354276
double duration is better in most circumstances actually
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>>168354276
it's good but if you wear an onmoyo hat the duration buff is competitive. it's a huge increase and it applies to all buffs, not just onmoyo. when you consider how good buffs are and how much value you get from e.g. keeping up luckbringer for days, i'm honestly inclined towards the duration art
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>reading a post on here yesterday
>guy telling his friend about drop spiders
>drop spiders?
>fight them
>Oh... they jump and try to stab you a lot. I get it.

Nope.
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>>168354420
>>168354442
You have more than enough charges to last between rests, making them instant is way more important than simple duration increase and mage hat provides less than 50% of Awakening's effect.
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>>168354351
But that's exactly what you're meant to be

if i summoned some retard and he just sat at a shrine forever instead of helping me clear the level then I'd just get rid of him
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>>168354351
>Player doesn't understand gimmick mechanics for the level

People who fails to understand shit like:

>Being stinky means you can't heal effectively
>Smashing the water barrels lets you run through fire safely
>You can destroy Amrita Crystals to kill/free nearby enemies
>Gesturing at Nurikabe and Mujina

Just makes me want to fucking scream.
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Why is Tadakatsu so ridiculously huge?
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>People who think the Cat is dead

Beat the game alreadfy, goddamn. I hope we get him in the DLC when we save Hanzo
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>>168354636
>But that's exactly what you're meant to be
No. I'm here to show you the way. I'm not gonna follow you in circles while you obsess about how to reach a single fucking dead corpse.
>if i summoned some retard and he just sat at a shrine forever
It was a new fucking shrine. Past dozens of enemies. It's actually one of the furthest away shrines in the game with a shitload of enemies in the way. We cleared it all and the first thing he does is run back to go chase bullshit instead of fucking hi the shrine.

You don't ignore your summon. It makes you a fucking retard in the extreme. I gestured rudely repeatedly and then immolated myself.
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>>168354686
Because he's a robot
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>>168354351
>get summoned to help someone
>refuse to help him
good job retard
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>>168354420
Isn't it only 50% longer?
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>>168354623
1. you won't have enough charges of 1-of buffs like luckbringer and you won't have enough charges of short buffs like kekkai

2. AFAIK it affects non-onmoyo buffs

instant is much better if you are trying to pop 3 things in the middle of living weapon to go full cheese but when i was just playing normally i preferred long duration
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>>168354813
makes sense to me
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>>168354027
Reincarnation?
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>>168354820
>>168354636
dipshits like these two are the type of players that attack walls and mimics and get 1 shotted, then send their visitor an angry message
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>>168354820
>I'm illiterate and don't understand simple english
I fucking slaughtered every fucking enemy on my own while he was slowly trying to navigate the fires. I carried him SO fucking hard and he was too dumb to even check out where I was or why. Never ignore a new fucking shrine. Ever. You're just asking to get blown out.
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>>168354657
That doesn't hurt nearly as bad as people that can't fight the giant skeleton.

>>168354751
We didn't get Seiryu or Byakko in the main game. Suzaku of the South, Genbu of the North are in but Seiryu of the East isn't in the game at all and Byakko is just a boss fight.
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>>168354805
>want to help someone through a level
>don't want to help them reach everything in the level

>>168354930
I don't do coop. But you're there to aide your summoner, not guide them. if they want to bumble around the level then you will too or you leave
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>>168353868
So what's the katana of choice to reforge and optimize to +5?
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>>168355148
>you're there to aide your summoner, not guide them. if they want to bumble around the level then you will too or you leave

This. You faggots who show up in TOTALLY RAD ENDGAME GEAR TO SHOW NOOBS HOW IT'S DONE are the worst kind of people.
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>>168355148
I would have HAPPILY helped him be a completionist. If he had the fucking awareness to follow me and tag the fucking shrine first. You simply don't ever fucking IGNORE a summoned ally. Ever. We're usually trying to show you shit.
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Shit niggas im really tempted to buy this at least to hold me over until Nier comes out. I fuking love bloodborne but i dont know if this being similar is good or bad thing. Is this japanese lords of the fallen?
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>onmyo mystic art mission
>need to beat Nue with a wooden stick and few buffs
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>>168355148
>I don't do x thing
>heres my advice on it though
really homie? are you serious right now
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>>168355029
Don't forget the central animal that's sometimes a huge dragon and sometimes a kirin.
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>>168355282
They can bumble around the level all they fucking want so long as they aren't ignorant fuckheads who refuse to pay attention to what I'm doing to showing them.

This fucker literally watched me douse myself in water and sprint safely though fire THREE TIMES and didn't learn how to do it himself.
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>>168355283
fuck you

when i summon you you're my bitch
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How was your day senpai?
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>>168355495
Nah. You're a piece of shit who can't beat the game on his own.

You're pleading for help to make up for your inadequacy. Don't pretend it's anything else. This game is so fucking easy even alone.
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>>168355362
it's not really that similar

the idea that "souls is now a genre and this is a good game in that genre" is pretty accurate

there are a large number of things that are worse or cheaper than a souls game, and there are also a large number of things that are much better than a souls game, and many things are different just because
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>>168355606
i only summon in ng+
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>>168355362
>Is this japanese lords of the fallen

No, Nioh is actually good.
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>>168355628
as long as it isnt like the shit show that is DS3
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>>168355362
If you want similar to Bloodborne then this isn't for you. It does not play much like a souls game, however it does play much better than one. The story, atmosphere, and aesthetic are also vastly different. Research the game first and see if it has mechanics that look interesting to you. Don't be a retard and buy a game without knowing what it is then complain it's not what you though it was like most /v/ermin do.
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>>168355605
>tfw no dex A+
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>>168355479
It's usually only a kirin in Japanese. If they go with the more traditional onmyodo then it'll be the yellow dragon since onmyodo is closer to tao. If they go with shinto buddhism then it'll be a kirin.
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>>168355362
go away soulsfaggot, aside from respawn mechanic this game has nothing in common with your series
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>>168355781
Which mission even yields +8? And what's your LCK at?
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>>168355605
Yoichi bow, eh?
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>>168341927
If this anon is still around, did you just summon for help against The Dark Samurai?
I helped a guy dressed exactly like you.
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>the achievement to collect 30 dung

is this what hell feels like?
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>>168355781
>tfw shit rolls
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>>168355850
>spamming light attacks to stunlock enemies to death

seems pretty similar to souls tbqh
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>>168355605
I finally got the effect I wanted to soul match
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>>168355742
if your problem with DS3 is that it felt tired and lacking in new ideas then you will probably like this game

if you demand certain things like vague item-based storytelling and pornographic environment shots then you might not like this game

it's a clearly distinct game with different ideas, it's very refreshing but it also means that sometimes you'll prefer what souls did

most people agree that the combat mechanics are way better, the enemy variety is a problem, the level design is sometimes really great and sometimes really bad, it's really easy to make broken overpowered builds but you don't have to, there is a fucking fuckton of armor sets and options
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>the devs unironically called this game "masocore"

I still can't get over that
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>>168355919
>If this anon is still around, did you just summon for help against The Dark Samurai?
No, i don't summon at all and mostly play offline first time around.
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>>168355863
you need to soul match like +1 +1 = 2, +2 +2 = +3 and so on.
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>>168355839
Ah, alright then.
Personally hoping for kirin since three dragons would be a bit weird and Masamune is guaranteed Seiryu
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>>168356018
shit nigga you just convinced me to get this shit
sucks i got to be a set guy instead of my own character though
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>>168356036
Ah, so it was just a coincidence then.
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>>168356019
difficulty is a meme now, but it's preferable to 5 years ago when difficulty was an "accessibility issue" and "disrespected the player's time"
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>>168356126
there is no character creation, but there are tons of unlockable character skins to choose from. no girls though because this isn't a shallow waifufag game
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>>168355781
at least I got lucky with this charm
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>>168356126
the hell does this even mean
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>>168355973
>damage bonus less armor

wait what is this equip load?
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>>168356298
It means he's a fucking idiot that forgot action games didn't have CC for the longest time
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>Got poison on dual swords
>It's misspelled as poision
Nice.
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>>168356126
here's my advice. after you beat the prologue (in which 99% of the game's mechanics are locked, don't judge the game based on the prologue) and you get to the first real level, sit your ass down and figure out the combat mechanics. they're very deep and you will have more fun and more success if you use them instead of chilling in one stance and bait-and-poking

the most fun skills to buy early are kicks, flux, and living water
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>>168356269
>tfw no yasakani magatama
is there a good way to find these? they seem really important but i still don't have one
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If you're not Tokugawa, you're a cuck.
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>>168356123
We are getting three more missions at the very least, don't know what size or if we're getting a full region. There are at least three more spots for spirits in fire, lightning, and earth. Most likely Byakko is lightning given his boss fight and seiryu would be earth just to complete the elemental circle of the four corners.

That really just leaves fire which would probably be Kohryu unless they pull another Tengen Kujaku and allow element switching.
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>>168356449
The localization is pretty hit and miss.
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>>168356592
dunno mate I just did some twilight runs where you the charm as reward with 10 cups and I got lucky after 6 or 7 runs.
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>>168356401
I don't use a helmet so I think it helps a bit, the others options are trash
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>>168356416
Just cuz they havent had CC in forever doesnt mean it wouldnt be nice to have. I always make a dude and a waifu chara in any game i can do so
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>>168356449
i've got 2 green charms with +25% damage against poisoned enemies, it makes poison really viable. but inflicting it with a weapon is far inferior to just using poison gas
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>clan battle gives me 40k Glory
>enough to buy all the costumes

sweet
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>>168356690
Are you fucking retarded? Just use the "invisible helmet" option.
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>>168356690
you know you can just disable the helmet appearance in the options right?
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>>168356825
>>168356826
Unless the game adds a helmet for the youngblood armor I'm not using one
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>>168356925
That's the most autistic shit I've ever fucking heard.

You deserve to be retarded.
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>>168356925
I'm afraid you have 'tism
Gonna have to put you down
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>>168356991
>>168357030
Thanks I try my best
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>>168355148
>if they want to bumble around the level then you will too or you leave

This. If you're trying to show them shit and they don't want to know then that's their loss, but you can't do shit about it and crying isn't going to help. If they're being bumblefucks wasting your time go jump off a cliff.
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>>168356712
It's literally a historical drama with supernatural shit. Everyone in the game is a real person.
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>>168357252
I still want to make a waifu character ma nigga
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>>168357337
You could've just said you were a waifu fag to save some time
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>>168357541
what armor is being worn in this webm?
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>>168357337
then play a different game. waifus are for fucking, not for being. and there are some damn fuckable waifus in Nioh
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how do you counter-attack/parry?
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>Furuta
>Luck +40, Silver Tongue +10%

>Murakami
>Luck (Pirate Armor) +10
>Water Damage +10%

The fuck?
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Is it better to focus on one weapon or can you spread your stats all over without being shit? I feel like I want to try all the toys, but not sure if I should pick one thing and focus on that.
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>>168357653
Yagyu's been refashioned onto it
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>>168357541
what are you webm settings?
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>>168357697
Get the skill for it. pretty sure every weapon has a purchasable parry, and even multiple variations for their parries and follow ups
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>>168357769
It's basically sub-par to focus too heavily and nearly impossible to spec "wrong"

I'm playing Katana + Spear but I've invested really heavily into Skill because it's effectively better than Heart or Body are. You can probably use 90% of the weapons at a reasonable level of efficacy on a single build. I say 90% because Axe doesn't fit into thing as easily.
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>>168358017
Since you're a fellow 1kat/spear fag, I've got 20/20 into heart and body. Did I fuck up?
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So i've been thinking about Ginchiyo's spirit possession scene lately.

Is she implying Hideyoshi coerced her into having sex with him?

That was a weird path Team Ninja took with her.
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>>168357769
You can do two weapons moderately effectively. If you want to have every skill in a single weapon and the passives from the others + 1 of the axe's mystic arts you'll need around 240+ Samurai points for that single weapon. If you axe the passives you can take a second weapons techniques + Axe Mystic art provided you don't take abilities you feel you wouldn't use.

But in general no matter what you do your build is almost impossible to fuck up. Unless as the other anon stated, you try to use an axe out of the blue.
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>>168358151
you're fine. you literally cannot really ruin a build. every stat has uses and the weapons scaling isn't THAT substantial

you can buy and obtain plenty of respect books too
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>>168358151
Nah. That's actually a healthy place to leave it. It's not like HP and Stamina are bad to have.

I'd just look into going to something like 25 Skill too. Look at the growth when you invest. Skill remains more effective and boosting than Heart and Body do at this point.
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What's a good spot to farm talismans? I need a set bonus -1 charm pretty bad.
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>>168357924
I don't know I'm an idiot; so I use webM for bakas
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>>168358345
The game will naturally give you 2 guaranteed. So don't worry about farming and worry about progressing through post game
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>>168358207
he raped her into infertility while tachi was away at war
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>>168357769
The key is to go for stats that cover many different weapons
For example, Swords and Spears scale primarily with Body and Heart respectively. However, both of them have C scaling in skill. C scaling is about 75% as effective as B. Skill also has scaling with Dual Swords and Kusarigama. So if you level Skill you get decent damage with 4 different weapons by only leveling 1 stat. Leveling Body and Skill would give you about as much damage (since you have to spread and they both only affect either Swords Or Spears) for much more stat investment. But you also get HP and Ki.
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Does mitsunari have the same weakness as the Yoki? I got intimidated by his first few attacks, then suddenly all his stamina is gone and he's dead only hitting me once.
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>>168358291
>>168358306
Skill is the stat that I'm working on right now
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>>168358429
Thanks anon. Do I just need to do all the main missions to unlock the other islands?
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>mission in ng+, ghost bridge
>seems like an easy one to do
>go onto bridge, raven tengu sitting there next to boss
>mfw

>after 4 attempts manage to kill the raven tengu, no elixirs left
>slowly trying to get the "ghost" boss to do punishable moves so I can break his ki/flatten him with spearfall
>more green skulls spawn halfway through
>mfw x2
>kill them, get ghost boss to <25%
he decides to pop an elixir and heal himself to above >75%
>mfw x3
>still manage to kill him after 3 and half more minutes of baiting
fuck ng+
fuck
ng+
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>>168358458
>>168358207
It's canon.

Basically he raped her, knocked her up and then she miscarried. She's barren now and suffering from some health issues as a result.

Tachibana had no choice but to continue to honor his lord, even after he died. Ginchiyo allowed him a concubine because she knew he simply literally HAD to have a child. She wasn't even hostile to the concubine and they actually bonded over their love of Tachibana.

It's tragic as fuck.
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>>168358458
I guess Kanbei did say about Hideyoshi falling into madness but i felt like this was a weird way to portray the Gorilla
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>>168358534
Not main missions per se. If you press the world map button it'll show you mission completion rating on the bottom left, as you fill in brackets on that by doing missions more locations will unlock.

As an FYI you can yokai realm with a companion from the get go in post game and is actually a better idea to do so if you want to earn glory kinetically without grinding twilight mission
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>Want to do an honorabu-samurai build
>Realize it's easier to steamroll through everything with an axe like a baka ganji

Life is suffering....
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>>168358538
Have you done the 310 twilight mission? That boss, who was literally a pushover in any form with any build and especially with Sloth. Has turned into some sort of relentless remorseless shit pusher who summons adds in three phases, changes his tactics and moves used depending on hp amount, and will aggressively pursue you with more combos than ever before until such a time that life leaves your body for good
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>>168357769
Focus only really comes into play much later when you've got a specialised playstyle in mind (for example there's an Axe mystic art that heavily increases damage for attacks that deplete your ki, and an armour set that increases your attack based on Stamina, so I'm doing a full stam tank build using all of Axe's stupid skills that deplete all your ki). If you're not planning for something like that in mind, you can pretty much do whatever you want with your levels and it won't matter much. You'll also find a shit-ton of respec books (and you can buy a load for cheap, but the price rises with one) later, so don't worry too much about it until later.
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>>168357769
This game doesn't care as much about stats as it does the weapons themselves. When they say diablo style weapons they mean it. You'll get one extra point of attack on heart for a fucking katana, but you'll find a katana thats a higher level or rarity and it'll have 5-10 more attack points.

I just build mostly towards getting more points for my skill trees and my spirits not being shit.

I might respec later on because I think I focused too much on Ninjutsu. It seemed good at first, but now seems like shit compared to Onmyo... Really they need to buff poison or something.
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>>168358726
Wanna hear a joke? The axe is one of the harder weapons to effectively use for all fights. So good on you anon
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Does the red demon set forge text drop from Ii in that 1v1 mission? Also who drops the kusanagi tsurugi text?
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>>168359020
>they really need to buff poison
If only you knew anon. With my poison build I throw a few shurikens and can run around like an asshole as my enemies fade away into the jesus lean
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>>168359074
>Also who drops the kusanagi tsurugi text?
At this point I want to say orochi does. But that's based on nothing at all but speculation. Good luck with finding it anon
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>bathhouse mission on warrior mode
fuck this bandage lady
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>>168359223
>farming orochi
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>>168359313
Life hacks from me to you
Infinite ammo cannon build
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Is there actually any difference between forging a weapon and reforging any other weapon of the same kind?
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>>168359497
If scuttlebut and multiple screenshots are to be believed. You can make higher than 150 weapons.
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The Magoichi fight is just plain bullshit.

>le teleports behind you (literally)
>allow me to just give you absolutely no time to regenerate ki because I have unlimited ammo ;)
>instant grapple even if you have full ki and you are blocking because I can ;)
>I'll cast my fucking bird thing every 10 seconds to knock you back if you get close ;)
>;) ;) ;)

Yes I'm mad, every fight before this felt fair.
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>>168358648
https://www.samurai-archives.com/mth.html
Dude went pretty crazy in his later years, killed his adopted son, was convinced he was destined to be the emperor of China, etc. But, he was always a womanizing schmuck who ignored his own wife in favor of trying to fuck as many women as possible. While no records I know of indicate he ever tried it with Ginchiyo (in fact it was said she scared him), he did it with plenty of other wives of his subordinates, comrades, and fallen rivals.

One woman, Nabeshima Naoshige's wife iirc, heard he was coming to "visit" her while her husband was away in Korea and she made herself as ugly looking and disheveled as possible to keep him from molesting her. Amazingly it worked.
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So how does the Ninjutsu "Mega Horoku-dama 1" and "Mega Hokoku-dama 2" work? I got invested in these super nade things but it only lets me put one in. Does the skill just increase the power of it? These two skills are taking up my entire ninjutsu capacity yet like I said I can only use one. I figure I would have two separate bombs. I don't even get two of the same bomb.
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>>168359171
Teach me ninja master!
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So, that's Nue down and fake Tachibana taken down, then real Tachibana ahows up and yeah that's about as much fun as hammering nails in with your forehead.

I suspected it would happen and it eventually did: I moved onto the next area and after ten minutes inside another uninspired cave level with - you guessed it - pick axe Yokai and the occasional Oni, I shrugged, switched the game off, deleted the save and breathed a sigh of relief.

Somewhere in there is a good game with solid mechanics and excellent character design, but each sweet nugget is buried beneath a stinking handful of bullshit that ultimately just isn't worth choking down.

Some are bound to argue that the difficulty makes the pay-off worthwhile and sure, in other games, I'd agree but not here. I walked away from each boss victory unable to decide if I'd actually risen to the challenge or just gotten lucky. Overwhelmingly though, the feeling was more of a 'thank fuck that's over' than a sense of reward.

The game's best parts are the levels themselves but the design, layout and art direction absolutely pale into comparison to other contemporaries, not to mention the essential brevity of each one.

The final short-coming is the overall presentation: a technically unimpressive showcase but for its lightning-fast load times, that despite the relatively small size of its environments, simplistic geometry and lack of post processing or other high-end effects is forced to half the native resolution in order to deliver a stable 60fps.

Honestly, looking at what's on display and comparing to other it's other games on the market, the compromises are genuinely hard to fathom.


Anyway, that's my mini review. I gave it a decent shot, but this one just isn't for me.
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>>168359597
>saika flies into the air
>i throw a shuriken and it knocks him out of the air
>walk forward and final blow
>repeat until such a time that he realizes the inferiority of his tactic and calls a retreat
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>>168358538
just kick him off the bridge
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>>168359746
Ooh fresh pasta.
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>>168358207
The original form of Nioh was a script for an Akira Kurosawa film, so all the little weird shit that feels out of place in the game is Shibusawa trying his hardest to stay faithful to that, despite fucking it all up. Given it was written at the height of his international popularity and all the stuff that has carried over into the game, I'd guess the film was originally going to be a critique on Japanese honour; William-sama is the bewildered foreigner who sees all the stupid shit going on (Muneshige still honouring Hideyoshi after he essentially killed the original Tachibana line, Mototada (the old man with the bird) sacrificing himself despite it being wholly unnecessary, Mitsunari bull-headedly staying the course despite obviously being defeated, Ieyasu sacrificing his children for his ambition but still being glorified for it) and wonders just what the fuck is wrong with all of these people, whilst still coming to love the beautiful aspects of the culture, and all that shit Kurosawa liked doing. I imagine that the big finalé would have been William talking Mitsunari into giving in, as Tenkai does in-game.

Of course throwing in demons and Kelley and spirits that all sort of gets lost to the wayside and just becomes a bastardised clusterfuck of who's who doing dumb shit.
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>>168359746
Yep. This game is bombing hard. I work at Gamestop and we've gotten nearly every copy handed in while everybody is buying For Honor and reserving the Dark Souls III GOTY edition. No way this piece of shit is getting a sequel.
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>>168359746
le upvoted xddd
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>>168359746
nice blog
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>>168359881
i see you posting a lot about this in every nioh thread but they flat out said the only thing they kept from the kurosawa script was the idea of a blonde samurai protagonist because it was visually striking.
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>>168358648
Hideyoshi was historically a complete fucking madman, the dude was the biggest tyrant of the three and his campaigns into Korea and China were stupid as fuck, but it gets glossed over because he was emperor for a while and can't speak ill of him.
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>>168354351
Yeah nah you're doing it wrong. If you don't enjoy combat with even the most basic of enemies then stop playing the game. What you said is backwards, you should be following him around and doing whatever he wants. Fucking hate people who just want to blast through the level and do nothing optional
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>>168359720
Super specialized builds. Also two accessories for poison damage. Poison on weapon. Iga set and recurrent damage buffs, spirit, and clan.

I don't recommend it though, there's plenty of other cool ninja builds
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>>168359746
lol u sound pretty gay haha
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>>168359597
>blocking a grab
Dodge it
>unlimited ammo
Block it
>fucking bird thing
Run around it
>teleports behind you
Throw a fucking rock at him
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>pulled the plug and managed to reverse selling EVERYTHING exotic or below
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>>168360148
Everyone loves an underdog story, and there is no bigger underdog story in Japan than Hideyoshi's even if it ends with the underdog becoming a maddened tyrant who wage pointless war against the Chinks and Gooks
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>>168354657
I don't understand why people get mad when others don't know this stuff. There was a point when you didn't know it either.
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>>168360378
Hideyoshi succeeded in uniting Japan so to speak so they can't really talk about how insane he was, or how he never left a clear government structure resulting in the end of the sengoku period being the worst part of the entire century.

Not only that but Hideyoshi remained a traditionalist which plays up to conservative Japanese tradition. Part of the reason Nobunaga is demonized is because he didn't give a shit about the Japanese cultural system of the time. He funded volunteer armies, gave recognition to those who performed rather than their families, sought global trade, pursued rapid industrialization, courted advisers from abroad, etc.

Funny enough though Nioh actually managed to touch on the more noble side of Nobunaga and the conflicted side of Mitsuhide while sneaking in how shitty a person Hideyoshi was.
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>the two kings:nioh on NG+

AAAAAAAAAH
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>>168353868
>Yellow/White = Sell or you can give it to the kodamas for amrita and the odd free item.
You know with enough whites, you can convert them to blue/purple mats right?
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>>168360378
>Takes all the glory for all the work Nobunaga did

Yeah real underdog.
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How good is steel and protection talisman?
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>>168360673
too much effort and you get tons of blue and purple anyways. selling anything not immediately useful for crafting is good since you need all the gold you can get later on
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>>168360050
I'm incredibly sceptical of the idea that KT came up with the Tachibana scenario themselves.
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>>168360987
Cleared the game and plat, never had a shortage of gold. Upgrading the mats helped me more.
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>High Stance Attack (Spear) +5%
>Bare-handed Attack Damage +70%

I think some of these clans have really weird bonuses.
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1.03 Update, whats on it?
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>>168361047
plat trophy doesn't help you craft the most glorious Nippon steel blade in existence, gold does
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>>168361008
Not like Japs can't look into their own history
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>>168359752
>>168360337
Finally nailed that faggot, didn't know throwing a kunai at him in mid air caused him to fall down
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>>168361057
that's why everyone uses one of the 3-4 good ones
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>>168361239
Gold doesn't help me folding a blade over a thousand times, mats does.
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>tfw Niohs DLC is The Old Hunters-tier
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>>168360863
Thats severely underestimating Hideyoshi's ability.

Not only that its also severely underestimating Hideyoshi's ability to put order to the chaos.

Yes he was a tyrant, but theres a method to his madness
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>>168360212
I'm not trying to blast through the level. I wanted to show him some fucking stuff. Really really important stuff.

As I said before, I would have happily followed him around as he explored. What offended me was him IGNORING me. Not only that, but ignoring a fucking Shrine.
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>>168361287
There's no historical basis for it. In fact, as another Anon said, Ginchiyo was quite formidable and most people (including Muneshige) were afraid of her, because everyone believed the bullshit they spouted about her and her dad cutting lightning.
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>>168361434
once the blade is folded you still need to add the details

reforging and soul matching for max rolls takes a lot of gold
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>>168361570
I just hope theres more common enemies in each DLC imo.

Enemy variety is the worst part of the game.
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>>168360421
No there wasn't.

The only thing was maybe how to appease a Mujina. The game explains the rest really organically. I figured out the fire/water mechanics fucking instantly.


anyways, I don't care if they didn't KNOW. I care that they're too stupid to LEARN when people try to demonstrate. Every fucking time a Mujina pops up, I do the appropriate gesture, hoping to set an example. These brainless fuckstains ignore me and don't ask themselves why I'm doing what I'm doing and just start button mashing.
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>>168361183
Bug fixes mostly about not being able to finish some side missions, added some crafting materials to buy from Danjo, nerfed Extraction Talisman
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I have a question. Please note, I just beat the first stage, but I'm really, and I mean really fucking bad at the game (and I also got some really nice gear), so I don't want to restart.

Is it possible to get the metal helmet from the tutorial in England after completing it? I have every piece, including the Bastard Sword, except the helmet. I really want to refashion my armor to those so I can run through the game lookin' like a knight.

Please, no spoilers. I want to go in blind, but this is something I really want to know.
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>You can now transform into HARAKIRI.
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>>168361897
Source on nerf
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>>168361909
Yes

It takes a while tho.
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>>168361570
Considering the main game is worse than Dark Souls II, I doubt they have any chance in hell of making DLC that comes close to the greatest expansion pack of all time. It'll be worse than Ashes of Ariendel and you'll feel stupid for buying it.
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>>168361705
>There's no historical basis for it.
Yes there is. The whole scenario is well known.

She was quite formidable. But her lord said "fuck you, I'm your Lord" and fucking raped her. That's how it worked. Doesn't matter how formidable you are. If you fight back against your lord, you're gonna be labeled a traitor or dishonorable or whatever else by disrespecting him.

You're supposed to literally just let him dismember you if he wants. That's how the dynamic was in those days and places.
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>>168359710
You need more jutsu capacity
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>>168354347
Doesnt wear armor.
But it makes the same sounds a normal revenant does.
Disguises are pretty fun to use online.
Also cheap, considering the tons of glory you get from the clan battles.
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>umi bozu

suffering.

any tips for this blob? lit all the beacons so he doesn't have adds
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>>168362064
Awesome! Thank you! Another question, though. Will I be able to tell that the helmet will be available, or just hope that I'll chance upon it?
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>>168361909
all of that shit goes to your storage. but you don't need to keep anything for refashion, when you puck up any piece of equipment you get that refashion option permanently

if you missed the helmet and want it you may as well restart all of that "good gear" means literally nothing and you'll replace it immediately
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>just occured to me that you can use The Adamantine axe buff and switch weapons
>mfw Muneshige tier hyper armor Iais
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With enough farming, will the Dark Lands/Ebony smithing text drop from Yasuke?
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>>168362219
Attack and dodge.
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>>168362242
Trust me, you will know when you find another of those Metal Helmets.

But its seriously going to take a long time before you see one of those again.

If you're still in the beginning of the game and you really want that helmet, you could restart
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>>168362219
fire damage
dodge the laser

that's literally it, i didn't even light all of the fires and I beat him in a few tries
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why didnt japanese geralt just use silver katanas on the youkai?!
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>>168362219
i run back and forth during phase 1, guaranteed to dodge projectiles/laser. move in to get a full combo off when he's firing the laser. dodge diagonally to avoid the tentacles and hit them as well.

for phase 2 i just run circles around him. this will avoid his attack where he thrusts himself forward and give you an opening for close to a full combo. when he jumps you can get a few hits in (bonus damage as his weak point is exposed) then disengage since he expands pretty fast.
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>>168362373
Yes, if the goddess of RNG favors you.
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>>168361606
It's downplaying what he did, sure, but at the same time it's way overplaying it to call his story the biggest underdog story in Japan. Nobunaga had already laid the foundations and most of his initial forces were only following him because of Hidenobu.
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>>168359913
>everybody is buying For Honor
I realize you're being facetious but why the fuck are people enjoying For Honor?
I tried the closed beta and it was repetitive, dull horseshit
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>>168362219
If you're having trouble with the first form, don't be afraid to use one of the torches. Don't worry about the weak spot if your weapon is on fire. Just swing at it's face but do not hold forward or you'll fall into the abyss. When his mouth glows yellow, he's going to shoot his laser or spit debris. Move.

For the second form, don't dodge. Run. Running avoids all of his attacks. Wait for him to rise up and then slam down. Attack the weak point.

Fight shouldn't take that long.
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>>168362219
use Hyottoko masks
kills him in less than a minute and chances are you have plenty that you've never even touched yet
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>>168361638
Yeah I feel you, that is pretty inexcusable. I still think the summoner should be the "leader" but whichever side you're in you should always be sensitive to what the other guy is doing and wants to do
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>>168362537
But even Hideyoshi story under Nobunaga is a massive underdog story.

Even in the social chaos that was the Sengoku period, its very hard to find an excelent general like Hideyoshi that came from absolutely nowhere.

In fact, all the three Unifiers had the underdog quality to them.
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>>168359913
I don't understand why people still trade-in at Gamestop, let alone buy from them.
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>>168362565
I don't think people are enjoying for honor given that the general big name streamer consensus is that after a few hours with it you will hate it.
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>>168362262
>>168362404
Oh. If it's really that far off, I'll probably restart tomorrow then.

Is there anything I should know about not fucking up a build? I was improving Body, Heart, Stamina, and Strength. I was going for a tankier character that uses swords and axes.
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>>168362567

You can use the torches? I guess you let him try and hit you while standing next to them?

>>168362615

I'll try that
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>>168362565
It's an alright game imo.

Decent fighting game. The PVP will probably be better than the absolute clusterfuck that Nioh PVP will eventually be.

Not really excited for that mode desu
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>>168362849
You use them by coating your weapon in the flame. Walk up to it.
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>>168362734
It was hard but Nobunaga was unusually meritocratic and there were plenty of other capable samurais cockblocked by their idiot lords. Also, many of their rivals also dropped dead due to mysterious circumstances so we don't know if its luck or really good assasins employed.
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>>168362835
you pretty much can't fuck a build up. every stat has numerous uses for every weapon
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BB>Des>>>DaS1>>>>>>DaS3>>>>>>>DaS2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nioh
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>>168362071
Nothing is worse than Dark Souls II.
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>>168362954
>>168362954

oh well shit. guess i can get rid of my fire talismans then

>>168362071

please go back to /dsg/
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>>168362869
>decent fighting game
I keep seeing people call it a fighting game, have these people just never played a real fighting game ever?
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>>168362087
You're misunderstanding, Anon. Do you know what a woman fighter looks like? They're not pretty, and the Tachibana were not the most high-culture people. Ginchiyo fought in battles and was leader of her clan for a while, she would basically look like she-beast, more man than woman despite what the games would have you think. This would be why Muneshige was scared of her too. Hideyoshi didn't go around fucking people's wives for the sake of fucking them, he did it because they were attractive and made his pee-pee hard. Historical Ginchiyo is not a woman who would make a pee-pee hard. Furthermore there are many many documented cases of Hideyoshi doing this they could have drawn from, the only reason to insert that kind of story into the Tachibana is for the sake of Wirriam-sama to go, "What the fuck."
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>>168363208
If you play in 1v1 its a pretty decent fighting game that have some issues.

Defense is too strong.
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>souls babbies whenever people talk about Nioh

let people enjoy what they like you autists or go back to /dsg/ and complain
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>>168363094
Dark Souls 3 is
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>>168363346
Kill yourself
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>>168363453
it's a shame they decided to send off the series with the most sterile boring turd they as a company have ever made
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>>168363592
>>168363453
>>168363346
>>168363094
>>/dsg/
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Im in the third area, when do I start getting access to decent armor sets? My character looks like he has been shopping at a garage sale.
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prequel game where we play as eternal fuccboi Ranmaru when
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>>168363302
It seems like it's one dude. Do what everybody else is doing and ignore him
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>>168362782
Wasn't that the same for Nioh though, or was it just Kelley's snake?

>>168362869
>fighting game
Ah, I thought the style the combos had seemed familiar. Yeah, it is rather fighting-game-esque-- without the interesting character designs. I can deal with being sucky at fighting games if it means I can play as cool characters, but the For Honor classes are all pretty character-less.

>>168363294
>Furthermore there are many many documented cases of Hideyoshi doing this they could have drawn from, the only reason to insert that kind of story into the Tachibana is for the sake of Wirriam-sama to go, "What the fuck."
This.
I don't mind it per se, but it feels like it was just added for the sake of it when there are plenty of other fucked up things Hideyoshi did, including potentially raping tons of other women, including the concubine mother of his heir Hideyoshi.
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>>168363208
Have YOU played it before?
There's no real genre you can nail it down to, but it's closest to a fighting game than anything else. It's by no means a REAL fighting game, but in the way it plays and funtions it's close enough to be called an alternative. Matchups, mixups, footsies, etc.
It's retarded to compare it to Souls, Nioh, or Chivalry
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Is poison any good? Rolled it on my sword.
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>>168363702
Because they got rid of having to go into the tired animation whenever you run out of stamina the game literally plays like Bloodborne 2.0. You had to actually manage stamina in the alpha but now you can just light attack and roll spam all day without any penalty like in the Souls games. "You can't play Nioh like Souls" is the biggest meme I've ever heard.
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>>168363940
Nioh right now has become a hot commodity right now and has been one of the top channels every beta and since release.
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>>168363208
The combat systems are a lot like Dead or Alive. Grabs beat Counters/blocks. Attacks beat grabs. Counters beat attacks. Difference is you can run away and heal if you don't like the way the fight is going.
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>soulsbabbies

Interesting how the only good souls games are the two exclusive to playstation, Demon's Souls and Bloodborne.

The Dark Souls trilogy was fucking shit, yes, even the first one. It's the game that brought the DUDE GIT GUD LMAO cancer to any game that was remotely challenging.

My eye twitches when games are compared to it or use it as the benchmark, especially when some games aren't anything like it, might as well start saying "GRAN TURISMO IS THE DARK SOULS OF RACING GAMES"

FIFA IS THE DARK SOULS OF SPORTS GAMES

DARK SOULS 2 IS THE DARK SOULS OF ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS VIDEOGAME DESIGN
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>Being cool as shit with my endless bombs build
>dipshit host dogs me out for 13 minutes because he didn't get the last hit on the boss
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>>168363940
I dunno, i like the sammyrais and shit
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When no one was looking, William Anjin farmed 30 dung balls

That's as many as three tens.

And that's shitty.
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>>168363092
(You)

Now fuck off.
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>>168363940
if we're going purely by dark souls stream personalities, peeve has been theorycrafting nioh builds for hours now instead of playing FH and elajjaz said he's going to be focusing on routing speedruns for nioh. but oroboro really only cares about PvP
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>>168364171
hot opinions you got there captain autismo
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>>168364179
bombs are annoying to look at.
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>>168363829
He's a revenant at Honnoji, while Yasuke who never shows up in anything gets to fill "the Dragon" role Ranmaru normally takes. It's doubtful Ran would be the protagonist of a prequel- though I'd love it.

Maybe a Genji era Nioh where you play as the original samurai fuccboy Minamoto no Yoshitsune? (Pic related)
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Hey /ng/

I'm not sure how to do stats in this game if I have fun with all the playstyles.

What do you suggest for this?

I tend to use 1kat most often but I use a little bit of everything else. (Mostly 2kat/kusarigama/spear secondary mixed with basic onmyo and a couple ninja like things)

Will be able to get some fun magic and ninja shit if I just focus on skill and heart or whatever to 20ish and leave the rest of the stats at 10? That was my plan. Is that retarded?
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>>168364393
your face is annoying to look at
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What did the patch earlier do, anyone know? The PSN description was uselessly vague.
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>>168364020
>spam guardbreaks
>get free attack
>repeat

works on practically everyone. I played one of the closed and the open beta, and even high ranked fights boiled down to the same shit every time, throw in a counter or parry here and there and there you go that's the entire game. Then the 4v4 is just more spammy shit with moba thrown in, and the campaign is just single player multiplayer. Now that'll be $100 + tip + microstransactions for the full game.
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The spear is a perfectly balanced weapon and will not cause any problems in PVP what so ever
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>>168364542
more cups drop during random encounters
Extraction talisman no longer allows easy unending living weapon
Can buy monster crafting materials using glory
bug fixes
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>>168364438
Yasuke should be the protoganist of the prequel for obvious reasons, even though he is already in the game.
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>>168364542
basically parrt one of the living weapon nerf happened, plus they made farming ochokos and rare shit easier
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>>168364542
mostly bug fixes and I think ochoko cups are supposed to drop more often. nothing was nerfed.
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>>168364179
infinite bomb build?
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>>168364698
the third hit that forces knockdown can be blocked even if a revenant is hit by the first two
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>>168364036
not really, dealing a small amount of damage is terrible compared to something like Lightning where you make your opponent slow as fuck for a very long time
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>>168364856
not sharing
you aren't stealing my virgins sonny boy
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>>168364874
are you sure that applies if they get hit in the back by the first two hits?
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>>168359913
>For Honor

Hey remember Ubisofts last big thing that they hyped? The Divide? No... The Division?

Yeah me neither, that shit went down the drain literally a week after release.

Exact same thing with For Honor except it has even fewer things to do.
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Is there a mission to duel Yasuke in ng+?
I hate running through the level trying to farm for the text for his set.
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>>168364917
How many Unlimited Ninjutsu do you have stacked up?

Is there any Clan that gives that?

I know you can join the Matsunaga clan to get Bomb damage buffs
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>>168364698
You could ground roll out of that or maybe use the attack while getting up move.
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>>168364036
With a specialized build poison is comically strong. The damage is based on health percentage and you can buff that to almost double values. There are surprisingly very few things that won't combust with poison on it.

The best part of poison is the abilities that increase your damage on enemies with status affliction. You can hit 50% extra damage with that shit. I've got 25% on a charm alone. It's nuts

>>168364962
Even if they're hit in the back. Guarding takes place in 360 degrees. Of the dojo missions, he and axe dude are some of the easiest because their AI doesn't work. While Yagyu is one of the hardest and is pretty close to what I'll be expecting when pvp comes out.
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>>168364962
well blocking in this game applies to all directions, and nioh has block on wakeup, so theoretically a human player should be able to get out of that. the AI lets you get free back attacks when they're getting up
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>>168365084
85% from the full jonin set rerolled at least 1k times

no clans give you ninja buffs

thats all you get from me
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>>168364694
nice post friend, but that didn't have anything to do with whether it could be considered something of a fighting game or not.
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>>168364917
Give me the jihad, NOW.
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>>168365241
He's not wrong but for different reasons. The same ones you're forgetting as well. But I don't think anybody is going to toy with this argument outside of /fgg/ so go there with that
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU BEAT THE BRIDGE ON NG+???
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>Get headgear that has total toughness +40%
>It's only level 47
I'm so torn if it's worth it
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>>168364698
at least spears are easy as fuck to parry
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>>168365361
It's the same as unlimited shooting build. Ninjutsu is actually the easiest to hit infinite status with because you only really need 50% and the iga set bonus will take care of everything else.
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>>168365078

who's yasuke and you get sets from revenants?
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>1kat revenant
>1kat myself
>high stance quick attack, get two hits in on it
>third hit about to land on it
>somehow it does the same high stance quick attack despite me being in the middle of hitting it
>interrupts my attack, but mine didn't interrupt his

Is there some stat that determines this behavior or are revenants just bending the rules a bit? I didn't block, it got hit. I wasn't out of stamina either.
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>>168365485
Soul Match?
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>>168365458
tengu first, axe guy 2nd
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>>168365825
Heavy armor gives you hyper armor once you're in the final tier of toughness
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>>168365153
>>168365164
That is a good point. I'm more worried about hitting someone with 1 high stance attack and comboing into the knockdown into a final blow for 100% of their health. But if you can block the attack that puts you on the ground reliably I guess that's not an issue either.
I still think spears are going to be the most retarded shit in PVP.
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>>168361287
Anon. These are japs we're talking about. Around 70% of their history they CAN'T look back and see. They'd just see lies and hyperbole and they KNOW its lies and hyperbole but they don't have enough evidence for proper conjecture so they either spout history memes or nothing.
Saving face demands memes cause no one else can prove thats not what happened either because saying nothing is close to admittance of guilt.
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>Just now got to 89, need another level to get that Omnyo mystic art since my build isn't magic focused
>Oh well let's see what the main mission is at before I do this last side mission
>103

What the cucking fuck
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>>168363294
>she would basically look like she-beast,
Fucking irrelevant. Rape isn't about looks. It's about power.
>Furthermore there are many many documented cases of Hideyoshi doing this they could have drawn from, the only reason to insert that kind of story into the Tachibana is for the sake of Wirriam-sama to go, "What the fuck."
No. It's because it's a fucking historical fact. Go ask /jp/
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>>168365919
depends on the values of ki and stamina. Because if those are normally than 1 kat kick and ki blast and 2 kat kick into combo and circle around i-frame attack are going to cause a LOT of booty blasting
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>>168365747
Yasuke is The Dark Samurai.
And yeah I could get his set from revenants, but everybody is wearing:
>Red Demon
>Justice Ministry
>Warrior of The West
and the occasional
>Demon King
And odds are I'd get better stats on the armour if I forged it.
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>trying to get power of life and death
>do it on a twilight mission
>realize its only for main missions
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>>168365895
good to know, thanks
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>>168366095
the number of people running around in full red demon and warrior of the west is comical. Somebody explained it best
>get to twilight
>kill a few revenants and get a full set
>die
>somebody kills my revenant and gets a full set
>they die
And it spreads like aids
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>>168366063
Tachibana being raped isn't a historical fact.

This is a Nioh thing
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>>168365580
SHHHHHHHHHHH
don't share my secrets you fuck or else I'll take your mom for my wife خق ثمسث
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>>168366095

how do you get those sets then?
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>>168365876
That's what I'm doing it's fucking impossible
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So i've been thinking on building a Fuuma character because they are the closest thing i have to the Hojo Clan, my favorite clan.

How Viable is Blinding?

I know it fucks with Onryuki but thats all i know
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>>168366384
I did it with my big mcregen build and an axe. You can do it anon.
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>>168366287
>And it spreads like aids
Well put.
I'm wearing it too, but just until I get my sweet ebony set.

>>168366367
From the bosses they each belong to I suppose.
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>>168366421
>How Viable is Blinding?
you mean the smoke bombs? They don't work on bosses.
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>>168366069
Maybe they'll take the "if every option is OP and broken, it's balanced" approach
Will be interesting to see how they implement it. Hopefully it doesn't take them months and months to implement pvp.
>>168366384
Not even close to the hardest NG+ mission. Good luck.
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>>168366063
>It is said that Hideyoshi cajoled Ginchiyo into coming in the Nagoya Castle to assault her while Muneshige was away due to the Bunroku-Keicho War, but she scented that and got into the Castle guarded by her maids-in-waiting with guns, herself also armed, and thereby, Hideyoshi could not do anything in terror.

There are more historical facts about Ginchiyo as a terrifying wife that henpecks her husband, fricking Muneshige the undefeated into submission so I highly doubt she just took it like pretty girl Momiji 0.5 in Nioh did.
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>>168366504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pEJvUqcdQ
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The spider boss lady is the evil personification of a teacup?
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can we get an element TIER LIST?
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So aside from Impale, what are the must have spear skills?
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>>168366616
oh you mean the actual blinding shell.
Alright so get this. It doesn't work on special bosses outside of him. It doesn't work on saika. They give you one for the hanzo fight and it doesn't work on him either. Doesn't work on enemies that aren't specifically archers. Doesn't stop beam waves.

Onryoki, who ends up being a normal ending you'll fight many times is the exception.
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Is there a dark reskin for the armless frontline chest?
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>>168366701
fire lightning water > wind > earth

>>168366754
spearfall
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>>168366814
Ah thats sucks.

I guess no Fuma Clan then
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>>168366835
wind lowers damage done
Earth makes it easier to deplete ki
Water lowers defense
Lightning slows
Fire is the most useless, merely causing burn while having 4 common enemies that will outright negate it.
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>>168366026
mission level barely means anything
the first half of the game you're way over them, then they catch up and you go way under them. then twilights can get to like 300
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>>168366754
Merciless Barrage is all you need
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>>168366932
fire has the best amplifier on a set though, over 30%
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>>168366994
I wish this fucking mission was only 300
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>>168367059
I wish I had that unlocked so I could farm that guy for the magatama
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I just made it to region 3, will this carry me through it?
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>>168367046
With the set reduction you can get masks for each element. Technically if you wanted to exploit something like amplification you'd use poison because it has higher gains for damage you can do. And the enemies that are resistant to fire are weak to poison.
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>yfw the onmyo mage hole
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>>168366701
whatever one you like most > any you don't like

tier lists are for fgc niggers
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>>168367347
they don't use those in the actual fgc
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>>168366754
Spearfall, spear stance change w/ mystic art, tornado and water wheel will give you endlessly long combos
merciless barrage is a good replacement for grapple attacks.
obviously you want twirl for the parry as well.
>>168367278
33% close quarter combat damage to scorched enemies makes fire well worth it when using red demon set
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>>168367347
But Earth is objectively shit.
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>1kat has three different parries

can anyone explain the differences to me?
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Wait fuck, what does the tortoiseshell hairpin do? I gave it to birdman but can you refuse and keep it?
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>>168367223
you'll replace it just as quickly as you got it. until you're at endgame there is no such thing as a "good weapon" because you'll get higher ones pretty rapidly

also nothing can really carry you, just help a little
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>>168366701
TOP
Water
Lightning

MID
Wind
Earth

SHIT
Fire
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>>168367491
mid stance is useless

just low/high stance everything
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>>168367416
>33% close quarter combat damage to scorched enemies makes fire well worth it when using red demon set
A benefit you can gain for any element and doubly so for poison. It's definitely not better than any other element.
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>>168367898
Which sets have extra damage on (effect) other than lightning? and the lightning set is not an A weight set either
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>>168367491
Water Shadow is faster and just does a followup back slash for some damage.

Haze is slower but always lets you either grapple or final blow after the follow up hit.

They're both basically just upgraded version s of Leaf Glide.
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>>168367491
Whatever one has the follow up backstab is the best. Gets the free backstab damage then let's you get a free grapple as well
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>>168367579
it's just souls afaik, the thing he gives you is way better
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Wow that last level was shit. The first part was really cool but then as soon as you get into the castle it turns to shit. Vampire lady and Nue are fine bosses but Onryoki for like the 8th time? Seriously? Also the spider aka the easiest and least interesting boss in the game. Nobunaga was pretty uninteresting honestly, really disappointed by his moveset. Kelley was legit shit and Orochi was easy as fuck. What the fuck happened?
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>>168368084
>>168368092
alright, thanks
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>>168367628
Wheres poison sit in that?
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>>168368075
Nobody said anything about sets but you can snatch that effect from charms.
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>>168368254
Haze is best. If you have any effects that give life on grapples or final blows you can even afford to miss the timing a few times cause you'll get it back anyway.
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Which version of 1kat iai is the best?
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If I don't have a build specifically for poison how good is a weapon with +16 poison?
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>>168366063
Except with Hideyoshi it was all about looks. As stated earlier there was a case where he went to some dude's castle whilst he was out fighting and the dude's wife made herself look like shit so Hideyoshi wouldn't want to fuck her, and he didn't. You seem to think of this 'rape' as a hardcore prison bite the pillow I'm going in dry sort of thing, but it wasn't. It was basically Hideyoshi showing up, demanding sex, and being given it because he was in charge.

I have no doubt that if Hideyoshi rolled up in Kyushu with a hard-on and demanded Ginchiyo suck him dry that she would do exactly that, but the fucking point is that there's no historical record of that happening meanwhile there's tons showing him doing that to other people. I'm not talking about the idea of it being a thing that happened, I'm talking about actual documented cases.
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>>168368595
Regular version.
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>A connection error has occurred
>A connection error has occurred
>A connection error has occurred
>Lost connection to host
>A connection error has occurred
Anybody else having this problem? It's really starting to annoy me.
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>>168368683
Had a few that did that earlier today but most of them have been alright.
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>>168368325
unless they don't stack that's a pretty big difference
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>>168366421
I only upped Dex to do the dojo missions and the blinding shells(?) made Okatsu completely trivial. If it works on Onryoki it'd work on other big bosses and also make them (and everything else) completely trivial.
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>>168368613
Please respond.
I'd rather not roll 80 times more just to get water +10 if this isn't terrible.
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>>168368956
poison is fine. they're all fine and amount to some extra damage either way. unless this is your endgame folded 1 trillion times ultimate sword then don't worry about what's on it
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>>168368956
im post game and it does 569 to oni every sec
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>>168369136
Mostly i have no idea what poison does but i do know water reduces resistances which means i can stack other elements easier and do overall more damage.

Is poison just a straight DoT? Is it the same as fire the ? Etc.
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>>168368186
Gotcha then, thanks.
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>>168369282
Poison does damage faster than fire, but I think it takes more hits to apply.
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can you parry anything even the non-human/youkais?
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Are any other TN games worth playing besides NG? Also is Sigma good for the original game or should I get Black? Also how is Sigma 2?
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>>168369282
it's a DoT that is a fair bit stronger than the fire DoT
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When do twilight missions reset? Midnight server time?
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>>168369342
The hits needed depend on the resistances of the enemy. Essentially if you want a poison build you'd use poison tinted duels/kusarigama and throw two poison shurikens to apply it. This lets you keep it up for free and starts the fight with poison applied. With enough +poison is starts eating through enemies like acid.
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When being summoned as a visitor, do bosses have increased hp?
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>low stance kat
>dodge ki pulse everything just fine
>try flux ki pulsing
>get hit almost every time

Why should I even bother?
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>>168369523
no

their patterns break a little due to aggro split but nothing else changes
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Which Kodama is best Kodama?

Red Bowl Kodama would be my pick. If they ever make Amiibo like statues of them I'd buy it.
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>>168369383
Just humans, revenants and small skeleton youkai, as far as i know.

Basically if it's a humanoid you can parry it.
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>>168369392
DoA games are fine
Hyrule Warriors is pretty fun if you like the genre

besides those and NG they haven't made much
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After two betas and a week of full play
I still have no fucking clue how tempest works
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Does anyone know if a host can see a signpost talisman dropped by a summon?
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>>168369683
Also Hino. Not sure about No. Some enemies also have unparryable attacks (Magoichi's jump slash I'm pretty sure).

Axe parry can parry anything, but does fuckall damage.
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>>168369743
They have to be very low/out of stamina for it to work i believe.
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Am I missing something about twilight missions? Is it just for endgame? Just did the Ominous Cavern one on a low level build and the loot wasn't any better than the normal one. I stacked luck as much as I could. Is it just the mission rewards at the end that are boosted?
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>>168369952
Axe has a parry?
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>Equip full Li armor/spear because of stats and A agility
>Find a purple Raikiri 7 levels above my best sword

Have i become a shitter?
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>>168369564
just poke/chip with low stance
and ONLY flux into high stance during any openings

for me i just use flux on boss fights and big guys
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>>168369982
They're only really worth doing in NG+
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>>168366474
>tfw wearing a full set of obsidian samurai but I never die
help
I don't even want this I want the even bigger dick Tatenashi set but I've only found 2 revenants that have had pieces of it, one had a chest piece and one had a head piece.
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>>168370005
It's called Spirit Wind
at the startup it guards an attack and follows through with a chop
but like he said, it does basically nothing compared to regular attacks
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>>168369486
Well its on my 2kats that have Change to Attack (Skill) A+ and Agility Damage Bonus A+ and i'm at B agility so hopefully this will do some damage.
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>>168370127
>join as a visitor
>my host takes less damage by me simply being there
>he still dies like a shitter
Help
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>Get good green set
>Die in a specific spot
>Give Nioh Gen bros drops

Is this viable?
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>>168370138
Is there a smithing manual for it, or is it just a "Run through this giant level 600 times and hope it drops" kinda thing for the obsidian set?
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>>168370294
get summoned to it
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What's better for farming texts: The spider spirit or Daiba-washi?
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>>168370391
spider spirit because it has higher luck and item drop, the only things that affect texts
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i really like daiba's stats and her onmyo summon because aoe knockdown

do we get to upgrade our guardian stats eventually?
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>>168370350
Not that anon, but that's what I've been doing.
Most summoners are absolutely fucking retarded though, and the run takes much longer when they're fucking around for 20 minutes.
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>>168369743
When they're stamina is depleted instead of pressing triangle press guard.
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>>168370291
Hello plebbit.jpg
>>168370391
Depends on luck and what you leveled. If we're talking guardian talisman Daiba.
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honestly suzaku does way more damage than genbu

i can't stand the dash speed down from genbu anyway
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>>168370525
Genbu allows a particular build that lets you be immortal forever
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WHAT ARE YOUR TOP THREE FAVE BOSS FIGHTS MY DUDES
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I've been using the same armor for a long time because I like the buffs I get from it. Should I just say fuck it and use stuff with better def even if I don't like the buffs?
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>>168370562
yeah or you could just kill everyone
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>>168370648
You're not getting quick kills on this weeks current 310
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>>168353868
Nekomata best yokai, too pure for this material realm

F
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>>168370291
>helping people
fuck off
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>>168370115
Thanks anon, I'll do that.
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>>168370573
the youkai one!
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>>168370291
No because greens literally aren't visible until you beat the game. They won't even see your ghost.
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>>168370071
Ii, not Li. The first letter's a capital i. And yes.
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>>168370846
>I fucked up the name

It's worse than i thought.
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>>168369564
Flux gives more stam than a regular roll/pulse - even perfect ones. Basically, you'd use it when an enemy is out of Ki and you want to do a longass combo on them.
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>>168370469
in NG+ yeah
the increases aren't huge though
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>>168370005
Yeah. It's very satisfying the one time in every hundred your enemy has just enough life to be killed by it without you purposely manipulating it to look cool, but it's overall extremely impractical.
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>>168371010
You would ideally use flux at all times always forever
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>>168371019
>doesn't pulse
Shamefur
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>>168370573
Toad is my favorite
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Anyone try a level 1 run yet?
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>>168370493
>the run takes much longer when they're fucking around for 20 minutes
This, so much. When you've got the layout of the level down sprinting straight to Yasuke ignoring enemies and only maybe getting hit once whilst opening a door takes around a minute and a half, depending on your run speed. Either way it's much quicker than carrying some fuckwit who's gonna get killed by the boulder on the stairs anyway.
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>>168364486

I'd like to bump this!

I could use some advice.
>>
Did anybody else notice that the item description for Elixirs is different in the Tower of London to the rest of the game in Japan?
In Japan it says
>Spiritual medicine which restores health the moment it is imbibed. Said to be made by Kodama tree spirits from nuts and seeds, but the truth is unknown. It only affects those with spiritual strength. Connoisseurs savor its unusual bitter flavor.
But while I can't find the description for Tower elixirs anywhere, I'm certain I recall checking them in-game and seeing them described as
>Spherical lozenges made from medicinal herbs mixed with honey

It's a tiny detail but I thought it was pretty cool that they didn't do the lazy thing and keep the description identical between the two areas.
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is there a full list of smithing texts yet?
trying to go for all of them and I have time to grind right now
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>>168371304
>>168364486
Put points into whatever lets you use the things you want to use. If you need some magic points, level magic. If you want some ninja points, level dex. If there's armour you want to wear and need skill for it, level that. You'll be able to reroll later very easily, and whilst there is a limit you can still do it like 20 times before your stash of gold/glory even notices.
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>when the Yasakani Magatama drops
there's 2 kappas in the twilight caves so get to farming, my brothers
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>>168371412
that's because the ones in the tower are called medicine, not elixir
they also stack higher than elixirs
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>>168371018
aww so its basically upgrades like +1 rings from dark souls
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>>168353868
rip cat bro
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My first attempt at reforging. Not sure what to get rid of here. Any suggestions?
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>>168371638
Oh, cool. Still, I thought it was neat that they didn't cut corners and separated the healing item for the two locations.
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>>168371723
i didn't even know close combat attack life drain was a thing, that's cool

earth is one of the worst elements i think, i'd much rather have water, fire or lightning

i think agility damage bonus goes much higher, and i'm not sure if it's exclusive with close combat damage, which might be better

obviously you'd rather inherit some other trait than strong attack ki reduction
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Is it possible to apply an elemental buff on top of carnage?
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>>168371785
yeah i felt the same, noticed it because i re-rolled to get the shark instead of the bird
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Finally got a kodama sense shit to drop. All I had to do was wait until I'm lvl 60...
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>>168371901
maybe if you carnage then pop living weapon
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>>168372023
yeah, once i beat the snow lv, i instantly got 4, so maybe they're gated until once you reach a certain point
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If I buy this game in Japan will it have full English support?
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>>168371901
Carnage is a self buff, not a weapon buff. It doesn't stack with power pill, elements are fine.
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WHEN THE FUCK IS THE DLC COMING OUT

I NEED IT

I NEED IT NOW
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>>168372246
Anyone know if the axe damage buff stacks with anything
>>
>>168372023
>>168372185

I got Kodama Sense on a talisman on the first level, so it's not level gated
>>
What is the least op weapon type?
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>>168372246
How do you get you ki usage so low? Is that a mystic art?
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*blocks your path*
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>>168372476
Each weapon has their own OP moves so really none.
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>>168372476
None of them. I'd say axe but after playing axe I know just how strong that is too
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>>168372537
>>168372476
Oh read our post wrong. I'd say personally the kusarigama is a little less OP than the rest.
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>nue

is there a worse midboss
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>>168372648
But Nue is easy as fuck compared to enma and oni.
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>>168372616
hahahahhahahhahaaaahaa
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>>168372648
Nue is fine once you learn you can instantly deplete its ki from full by hitting its ribcage during any attack that makes its chest glow.
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>using quadrisect on yuki-onna while she's under discord
this feels wrong
>>
>heard oda is in the game
>exicted as fuck
>get to elsa's level
>apparently this takes place years after he died
Are you serious.
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is william a pirate/sailor, a samurai or a witcher?

wasnt he just hired to get the amrita or something
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So now that weapon skills for all weapons are considered broken as fuck, have you started your no weapon skills, magic and ninjistu run yet so you can actually beat the game for real?
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>>168373070

there's a reason he's called the Demon King
>>
How the fuck are people bad enough to get killed by one of the four repeat bosses on Nobunaga's level? You've literally seen three of them multiple times up until this point. Holy shit.
>>
tips for the snake boss in the end?
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>spider nest castle
>missing 4 kodama
>get kodama sense and run through it
>only find 2

Welp. I'm guessing they are in the dungeon like area but I have no idea how to get to the upper part of that place.
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>>168373164
Was thinking of doing one but then realized don't have the skills to pay the bills.
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>>168373267
Which ones?
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>>168373425
onryoki, nue, emma, and gumo
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>>168373292
>only missing one
>see one near the end of the level
>trying to find a way to it
>accidentally go into the bossroom
>beat boss first try
>can't leave bossroom without exiting the level
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>>168373292
There's a well next to the house that had a hotspring that has a thief talking about treasure. Go down the rabbit whole and look up for spiders.
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>>168373425
desu nue is the only one that gave me trouble
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>>168372491
Yes that's the dual sword mystic art
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>>168373492
Haven't been summoned to help with that yet but it's hard for me to believe people actually struggle with that.
Maybe I should just specify missions because I got Umibozu 4 times in a row and it's making me insane.
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>>168372246
How even all those buffs? how not falling off edge?
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>>168373828
You only fall off if you stand on the corners.
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>>168373164
There are literally no good axe skills
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>>168373149
He was a privateer, which was a pirate sanctioned by the Crown. They got a little piece of paper that said "This pirate can do what he likes as long as it's in the name of the Queen, have fun". Amrita was among the stuff he was under orders to acquire, under the pretense that it was just another valuable kind of gemstone.

The reason William was imprisoned in the first place is because he learned the truth of why they wanted amrita.
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>>168373953
All axe skills are good axe skills.

I'm going to make my axe build tomorrow and start showcasing the way of the axe
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>tfw can carnage parry cheese Ii flawlessly every time but muneshigger keeps fucking me up when I try it

I just want to get your damn text it's been like 4 hours you nigger. been using an axe for it instead but takes a bit more time investment each run
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>>168373953
Heaven and Earth and Rumbling Earth are great you idiot.
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>>168373562
Got it, thank you.

Not sure how I managed to miss that hole both times running through that level.
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>>168374087
Go Spear and start Flying Monkey over his ass.
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>>168374147
There's actually plenty of stuff you can miss on almost all levels. It's honestly really great.

Have fun bro.
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>>168374021
Please do, because I don't believe a fucking word you said.
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>>168373973
>The reason William was imprisoned in the first place is because he learned the truth of why they wanted amrita.

so whats the point of that one scene in the jail then
it fucking confused me
because i assumed you found the truth while eavesdropping in on a conversation
and you were jailed for different reasons

also how did william learn to be a samurai if hes a pirate
dont tell be its because of that "magic" book during the prologue
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>>168374323
what kind of armor you want, light or heavy
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>>168373953
hahahahahahahaha
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i wish people would get summoned by me.

stuck on Umi Bozu.
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>>168374087
just cheese him with spear + carnage and he can't touch you

remember spider + luck talisman
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>>168374356
thats not why he was imprisoned

its simply cause he was involved in acquiring amrita, government wanted to wash its hands of them and have no evidence or witnesses
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What was with this guy? he seemed crazed after you beat him
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>>168374504
like I said I can do Ii fine. muneshige is the one I can't get good at parrying, and my axe kills him way faster than those pokes at least. gonna just tough it out I suppose
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>>168373953
t. someone who doesn't even use Axe
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>>168374558
He was stalling since he thought you were after Mitsunari
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>respec with a focus on skill for spear because I wanted to try spear
>forgot to put points into spirit
lol, I fucked up hard and now I gotta respec again because spear is pretty cool but I put a whole bunch of points in spear and I feel like I gotta learn the whole weapon, in the end game
just doesn't feel right
I'll just stick to 1kat/axe and learn spear/kurasimaga when I NG+ or make a new save file
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>>168373953
You couldn't be any more wrong.
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>>168374773
Doesn't William even say that?
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>>168374834
Bill thinks he's stalling for Kelley when he offers his spear.
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What's with shockwave (onmyo spell)? I can't get it to do anything.
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>>168373164
literally
>no fun: the run
I think I beat the game for real when I used magic/weapons/ninjutsu like the game provided me with

except for sloth, of course
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>>168373316
Been doing a Dojo Set run for a while now on a new save.
Its easier than you'd think.
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>>168374356
>because i assumed you found the truth while eavesdropping in on a conversation
That conversation is the revelation that Kelley is being sent to Japan to get more Amrita, and to explain to the player what it's being used for.

>>168374524
It's officially the reason why he was imprisoned. There'd be more pirates in there than William if it was just because he was involved in its acquisition.
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>>168373953
Good job getting all the axefags to reveal themselves
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TO ALL THE FAGGOT NINJA WANNABES OUT THERE

STOP THROWING YOUR BIG FAGGOT BOMBS AT BOSSES WHILE YOUR SUMMONS ARE GETTING HITS IN BECAUSE WE CAN'T SEE SHIT WHEN YOU DO

THANK YOU
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>>168373953
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>>168374356
To explain to the player, I think. And to explain that Kelley was evil if that isn't painfully obvious enough.

Because it's a video game. I can't think of anything else remotely reasonable.
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>>168375015
>>168374524
Further evidence, lifted directly from the character profile in-game:
>William is an Irish-born English sailor. While still a boy, he lost both parents in the war with England, but also met his Guardian Spirit Saoirse; the two have been inseparable ever since. Overcoming these early tragedies, William grew to be a strong and capable young man and threw in his lot with an English navy privateer-a pirate ship in all but name. Saoirse's special ability to locate powerful Amrita spirit-stones allowed him to flourish as a pirate for a time, but when he stumbled upon a secret military project to weaponize Amrita, he was imprisoned in the Tower of London.
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WHERE CAN I GET THE TATENASHI SET

Also known as the God of War Looks Down set.
I need it now, senpai. None of that lategame twilight mission shit.
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>>168374975
People who like to actually be challenged will find it fun

Not everyone finds steamrolling through everything that enjoyable my dude.
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>tfw send every single host to kill a wall or mimic a message describing that they're friendly and what to do against them for "better loot"
>any messages I get back are either snarky bullshit or "yeah right lmao"
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>>168375071
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Just got Paired Raiken and holy balls this is OP.
It's like these dogs had too much mountain dew and just wanted to go ham on anything nearby.
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>>168375405
How do you send messages? I'd like to do that after my host dies so they won't make same mistakes again.
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>>168375071
Just stand back then?

>its a my torii partner doesn't know not to attack nurikade or mujina episode
>message him about emotes and how you can even whistle the mujina out
>"nah, sounds like bullshit man you just wanna get me killed."
>literally show him by emoting through a nurikabe
>attacks the next fucking nurikabe without hesitation
>its a he doesn't know to back of enma when she's getting up episode as well making it last 8 times longer than it should be
>its also the episode where the idiot tries 12 times to axe me off the cliff, dies doing so, then gets mad I didn't instantly pick him up
>its also the episode i hariki'd fucking twice and got him every damn time
He even messaged me afterwards bitching how I didn't attack enma to get him out of the grapple.
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>>168375509

i like to think the doggos tangle the enemies up in their leads.

>>168375405

>tfw I only found about Mimics being nice thanks to 4chin

thanks lads. Thankfully the walls are more obvious with the graves next to them.
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>>168375598
psn
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>>168375641
Honestly if they don't take what I say seriously or they do some bullshit I always

>blow the horn for enemies
>harakiri

Asshole are not worth the effort when there are plenty of people who actually need help.
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>>168375641
its a bit hard to stand back when there is an opening and I need to hit it with my sword to do damage
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>>168375405
I got a friend request after helping a guy ace a mission the other day and he's been all over my dick since, constantly asking me to help him with this mission or that. I shouldn't have been surprised that he still attacks Nurikabe and Mujina, but at least he listened to me when I told him about them.

The weirdest thing is how he seems to worship me like I'm some kind of fucking god at playing the game. I'm barely average, I can't pull off combos for shit, I'm just decent at learning patterns so I don't die, but holy shit this guy is sucking my nuts like they're coated in the elixir of life. He can't be a kid either, I've seen him playing the game from about 5pm to 5am.

Baddies and scrubs are a mystery.
>>
is it possible to get nobunaga's armor?
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>>168360635
So what does Onimusha Dawn of Dreams say about Hideyoshi?
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>>168375953
Then hit it using your block attacks.
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>>168375971
he wants to be your boyfriend
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>>168375971

>tfw bad but only summon for bosses that i'm struggling on

its a shame most summons kill themselves when they see it's umi bozu
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>>168376014
yes
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>tfw the coolest boss in the game is ridiculously easy

Why Pepe, why?
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if I have the reduced set requirement by 1 ability does it mean I can wear one of every set and get the 2 piece bonus for all of them?
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So how exactly do clans work? How do I contribute? How do I get glory other than killing every revenant I see?
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>>168376195
Sorry but it's irritating clearing Umibozu's level then see my host die less than 30 seconds into the boss. Less rewards and waste of time.
I run straight out to drown like there's no tomorrow.
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>>168376195
I persevered through Umi-Bozu with this guy because I didn't want to look like I was blowing him off, but it's such a fucking ass ache to help someone who doesn't know the boss at all and trying to stick with them until they finally figure it out. I'm all in favor of trying to help you do more damage to the guy, but I can't teach you how to dodge shit.
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>>168376037
that doesn't really help since i can't see if the boss is going to do a grab or an attack that will break my guard
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>>168374356
The eavesdropping scene in the jail is to point out that Kelley specifically wants you dead so he can take Saoirse
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>>168376453
you contribute passively
glory can be earned in bulk through yokai realm/random encounters
and be sure revenants are from the opposite alignment obviously
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>>168376464

already cleared the level and lit all the torches
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>>168376409
I felt similarly about White Tiger. It was a cool fight and I was a bit sad about having to kill catto, but I was slightly underwhelmed when I immediately noticed which attacks were the obviously punishable ones and only died once to the unexpected tail grab attack.
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>>168376452
anyone with it know?
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Is there any way to get Otani's armor, not just transform?
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>>168376878
Justice Ministry is the set name
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FROM THE TOP ROPE
GOD AS MY WITNESS THAT MAN ISN'T HUMAN
BY GOD JBL BY GOD
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>>168376878
pretty sure i've had it drop for me from him.
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>>168376940
Ah shit all I got were his boots from him then. Will there be a rematch later or do I have to do this whole mission ogre?
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>>168374718
MUNESHIGE CAN BE PARRIED!? I swear I keep trying and just fail. He always fakes me out.
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>>168376878
Got the smithing text from him on the second try
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>>168376195
Can you blame us?
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>>168376974
hara kiri best emote
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>>168377032
There's a rematch later on bu it's honestly faster to just rush to his fight in sekigahara
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does the wooden sword have a pattern?
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>>168373953
yeah ki breaking bosses in 3 hits and getting free crits all day is sooo shiiiiiit.

go play with your ball and chain.
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>>168377134
you forgot to mention the rematch is in a small room with two onmyo mages raping your ass too
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>>168376014
not only is it possible, it's one of the best sets in the game
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>>168370562

What build?
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>>168369701
What the actual fuck do you think you're talking about?
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>>168376581
Then just stand back.
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>>168376708
By yokai realm do you mean twilight missions? Or just generally killing oni?
>>
That sudden shift from Japanese folk to celtic folk for Saoirse's memories was pretty good man.
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>>168377413
Don't reply to me if you're not going to give context for your reply
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>>168377323
As expected of best boy.
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So do the bonfire buffs you get in the umi bozu arena do more than fire talismans or what? I thought they were for just getting rid of the extra blobs
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>>168377479
(You)
>>
Tiger, Ox, Turtle, or Bear for an Axe/Spear heavy armor user?
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>>168377575
Just leave the bonfires alone unless you want those blobs to appear again.
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>>168377562
it reminded me a bit of Tenchu 2
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>>168377550
No. it's an option at the Torri gate
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>>168377571
Ha, ok. He's asking about other games by Team Ninja. You referred him games made by Tecmo-Koei.

I.E. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
>>
>bosses dont have unique themes that tell a story

i thought this was dark souls
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>>168377208
>he didn't draw them out
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>>168377748

but what about muh fire
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>>168376791
he has far too little health and he just sits there

what a pushover after nue
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>>168376940
>>168377002
>>168377082
Ah fuck yeah, this is gonna be great. Wasn't expecting the armor to be awesome underneath that surcoat too. Hope he drops the text, even if he doesn't I'll go till I got all the bits for glamoring. Shame you can't get the moth but I'm happy to hear a rematch is coming that's somewhat tougher.
Iga made up for his disappointingly fast premiere so hopefully Otani can follow that pattern of rematch fun.
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does hanzo drop smithing text?
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>>168377575
They are very long duration
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Everyone who kills themselves after being summoned to a level they hate should uninstall Nioh.
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>>168378027
except every DoA game is developed by Team Ninja and Hyrule Warriors is part developed by Team Ninja

what the fuck are you talking about retard? dumb nigger
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>half the trophies in the game either require autistic grinding (max all weapons/30 dung) or dumb luck (complete all twilight missions)

Whose idea was this?
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>>168378336

just like a real souls game!
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>>168378219
nice catch all bait there friend but maybe you should actually eat my dick you jelly blob summoning ass eating kirby looking funny duddie
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>>168378336
if you care about trophies, you already have autism.
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>>168378219
>make this like six years ago
>nobody ever reposts it
>guess it wasn't that funny
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>>168378415
Bloodborne requires no RNG, no grinding, and only one playthrough
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>>168378516
the only one that doesnt require grinding multiplayer shit

though you still have to trudge through the chalice dungeons
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>Catto dies instead of becoming a spirit
>You kill Yuki-onna but you get a bunch of butterflies instead of her
>You kill Muhammed general and don't get his moth girl spirit, but you kill the other guy with 3 lines of dialogue and get his dumb lion
reeeeeeeeeeee
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Does anyone know how revenant difficulty is determined? I've encountered some that are piss easy and some that are pretty skilled? Is it based on how the player handled themselves before they died?
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>>168378628
You don't steal waifus, Anon!
Don't be a Kelly.
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>>168378516
>1 out of 5
Wowie zowie!
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>>168378631
pretty sure it's based on what the player does

>red demon shitters spamming spearfall
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>>168378159
ninja bros? I got armor thats nearly 50 levels under me and I just wanna forge a full ninja outfit around my level and I believe fighting him in the dojo is the only way to get his set
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>>168378219
>get summoned
>host is at the boss door and wants me to run all the way over before starting the fight
>cutscene plays and he watches the whole thing so it's his first attempt fight it
>uses sloth straight away

And that is when I pulled out the harakiri sword
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Hand over the Amrita and Coins, Anjin-sama
I don't wanna have to do this...
>>
So when PVP is released what weapon do you think will be the most OP?
>>
Do armor drops from players come with +'s on them, or are they always just 150? I just want to know if killing revenants gets fucking useless once you've got some armor and a few weapons you enjoy.
>>
>>168378824
he does drop it, pretty much anyone with a set or weapon can drop them.
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>>168378921
God tier:
Spear
2Kat

High Tier:
1kat

Mid Tier:
Kusa

Cant Even Hit Your Opponent Tier:
Axe
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CALLING ALL CLANS
ASHIKAGA REPORTING!
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>>168353868
Best smithing text grindan spirit?
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>>168378996
Revenants are the best source for farming divine fragments.
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>>168378921
I bet there will be some meta to do an honorbru samoori duel with only 1kats.
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>>168379113
>Cant Even Hit Your Opponent Tier:
>Axe
Say that to my 500 toughness not online see what happens.
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>>168378824
just forge kingo and make it look like the iga set
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>>168378794
Love the revenants that spam that fire mask and the axe guys who spam triangle. Heard some even use sloth but never encountered one.
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>>168379298
literally every single axe ability is telegraphed and slow

have fun trying to kill someone with low stance light attack spam, i guess
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>>168378921
axes probably with all that hyper armor. just go through everything while having too much defense.
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>>168379317
Kingo is heavy as shit though
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Quick question about refashioning.

If I loot an item does it's appearance automatically appear for refashion?
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>>168378631
Equipment. Any revenant with an axe will always use the slowest most punishable moves, despite low-stance being its bread and butter. Meanwhile 2kats with high toughness will pose the most threat due to speed and hyper armour, yet they're also the most common (as in those niggers keep dying).
>>
>>168379123
Uesugi are here to righteously punish those who trample upon the weak.
>>
>>168378921
It'll be called cancer and then they'll whine loudly getting it nerfed and it'll go in a cycle until the weapons are shadows of themselves
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>>168379350
high stance axe users just immediately run out of ki and get critted lmao

>>168379456
sure about that?
it looks like cloth to me
>>
>>168378469
This honestly
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>>168379350
I'm seeing a lot more revenants with sloth in the last day or so.
It's probably because all the "gaming news sites" are posting articles that read something like "TOP 10 TIPS TO MAKE NIOH FUCKING EASY"
>>
>>168379593
No, you've got to get maximum familiarity with the weapon while wearing the whole set
>>
>>168379593
yes
>>
can someone compare the weights of kingo and red demon sets?

wiki is lacking
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>>168379631
doesn't matter what it looks like, it's a heavy medium armor set
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>>168379593
Yes.
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>>168379123
FURUTA REPRESENT
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>>168379123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5UoixnuWow
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>>168379123
>up to toad
>still haven't joined a clan
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>>168379437
Toughness gives hyper armour which with the defence of heavy lets you trade blows with Onryoki and come out on top, let alone some nigger's double toothpicks who'll be staggered and hit for most of his life after getting in one attack.

I mean let's be real PVP will amount to who can cheese magic first, but proper use of the axe can force a fight to be blow-for-blow rather than dodging constantly, and that's a fight the axe won't lose.
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>>168380065
TFW no 6 Kat or 2spear

shit game
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>dungball guy is actually eating them

wew
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I got three or four bosses into this game using 2kat but it got so fucking boring and I thought I'd rather use an axe

so I started over just now to go with axes but now axes are pretty boring too.

are any of the weapons fun to use or is this game just not for me

also: does that 10k gold stat changer in the blacksmith shop allow you to change everything like all your points in magic and ninja and weapon skills?
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>>168379317
no fuck that
I need that Jonin bonus
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>>168379949
That luck is just too good
>>
>>168380173
try spear
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>>168380160
Tradition in Japan I think.
>>
>>168379631
It's a big red cloth coat over armour.
>>
>>168379595
I've summoned an axe revenant that not only used low stance but actually hit me with a fucking sloth talisman and blew me the fuck out.
>>
>>168380248
Whenever I see a Revenant casting I run like a motherfucker.
>>
>>168379949
mah nigga
>>
>Prevents death as long as you are not in critical condition: 30%
What does this even mean? I can only die if I'm reduced to less than 30% first?
>>
seems to be no cap on prestige stats btw

I thought it might be 20 points invested into a stat but I can do more

current 110 reputation level
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>>168380228
Boringer than the others.
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>pass the game a few hours ago
>3 kat master race carried me through the whole game
>Finally have level 150 gear so I don't have to refashion all the time
>feelsgoodman

But Jesus Christ, after seeing everyone talk about how OP Onmyo magic was with 2kat is fucking ridiculous.

Anyone that wasn't Muneshige, Okatsu or that flying guy would get bodied in under 30 secs.

Now I'm wondering if we'll ever get a set to surpass Li's armour in terms of stats.

It did help with them 2 V 1s tremendously though
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>>168380524
How do you even gain prestige?
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>>168380549
>spear is boring
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>>168380579
Earning titles.
>>
>>168380515
Yeah
If you had 100% health and an attack hit you for 200% of it, it'd keep you at 1 health
>>
Did 3kelley get nerfed?
>>
>>168380515
yes, attacks that hit more than once will murder one though since you end up with 1HP
>>
>>168380173
Yes it refunds all your amrita spent on level ups and skill points spent in all categories. There's absolutely no reason to start the game over.
>>
>>168380605
Sure it looks good with all the twirly and pokey shit but actually using it is fairly boring. At least 2kat has iai's and various strikes that lead into each other without my ki management dying in a ditch in tijuana somewhere.
>>
>>168380524
there's a limit to the titles you can get though unless you can reset them
>>
>>168380742
I restarted because I didn't like my death record...
>>
> Find Medicine Case
> Read stats and find it says Unlimited Elixirs
> Equip Medicine Case
> Run out of Elixirs

What am I not understanding?
>>
>>168377562
i really liked that trick, i think they were trying to do something cool where we don't learn the main character's backstory until we get his own spirit like every other character but it didn't work because there was too much other media spoiling everything
>>
>>168380846
>being bad with ki
Are you okay?
>>
>>168380875
Unlimited (whatever) means you have that % chance to not consume an item when you use it. So if it says Unlimited Elixir - 5%, you have a 5% chance to not use up an elixir when you use one.
>>
PLEASE HANZO
PLEASE
DROP THE FUCKING SMITHING TEXT
>>
>>168380875
It's a percentage chance on each use. So each time you use an elixir there's a % of it not being consumed based on what percent it is.
>>
>>168380875
It has a percent chance to not consume an elixir. If you press the options button and go over all the special abilities armor and weapons give you, you can see what stuff like "Unlimited X" actually does and whatnot.
>>
>>168380875
did you miss the big % right on the same line? it gives you a chance for unlimited, not guaranteed. you can stack that % a fair bit to improve the odds though
>>
>>168380515
Basically if your health is above 30% and an attack takes you from there to zero in one hit, like a bosses BS teleport grapple, it'll kick in and you'll be left with 1HP.
If you're below 30%, lets say 29.99% for sake of argument, and that same boss does its BS teleport grapple you'll be deader than the american economy in 2 years.
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>>168378631
>when it's a 300 poise revenant spamming low stance 2kat
fuck that
>>
>>168380947
>>168380991
>>168381009
So anything below 50% is worthless.
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>>168381113
You get 8 per shrine, how many more do you need?
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>>168379454
>>168380118
axes are too easy to parry, i think you can reactively parry every axe attack with 2kat's shrike parry
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>>168381113
I'd say it's basically worthless anyway because you can carry 8 elixirs at a time and get upgrades to carry more.
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>>168380912
I'm just saying 2kat was fun cause everything lead into something else AND ki pulsed when it does it. I survive and while doing so it ki pulses even then. The pain train literally never has to stop.

Spears on the other hand get maybe 2 of those then that one mystic art screws it by making it a seamless attacking spree but without the Ki Pulse i was expecting and now suddenly i gotta stop and wait then get back in.
Its vastly more restrictive, locks you in to small set combos, means i have to stop my fun, and costs me DPS which makes it more boring in general.
I don't even care spear has reach cause 2kat lets me stay close with impunity.
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>defeat Magoichi without getting hit
>don't get the title
Well fuck.
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stupid question, can yokai be parried? if i fail i just get stun locked to death so ive never tried it really
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>>168379949
>>168380223
it's a good feeling
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>went through nearly half the game until my mate told me about how useful quickdraws were

Revenants and Yokai really don't stand a chance once you got the distance and timing down with that A agility.
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>Finally get Red Demon Armor
>"Wow, I can finally reply to the "Post Williams!" posts without my character looking like trash!
>Everybody fucking wears it

FUCK OFF, IT'S MINE, ALL MINE
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>level 57
>still can't beat muneshige

holy fuck I am bad at this game,
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>>168381595
>he doesn't refashion
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>>168381379
Here's something shocking but you don't have to use spear stance change as the art. You can do stability which makes it so that the ki twirl is only there on heavy. I will say that most of the fun things on spear are further up the tree so it's not as frontloaded as 2kat.
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>>168381379
i use 2kat and spear weapon switch and basically you have to sit your ass down and retrain your brain to learn spear timings. you can still flux on spear stance change attacks, you just have to wait on the flux until the end of the attack

it's very, very different from 2kat where the timing is visceral but ultimately you can learn it. honestly the only weapon i really "don't get" is 1kat
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>>168379113

Can anyone explain to me the 2kat meme?

The Kusa seems better in literally everyway. Why does 2kat get shilled so much?

IMO

Practicality

Kusa > 1kat > Spear > Axe > 2kat

Fun

2kat > Axe > Spear > 1kat > Kusa
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>>168381595
red demon looks like trash anyway
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>Doing a mission without a guardian spirit or armor
2kats give me strength
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>>168381535
NEVER GET HIT.

Seriously though, how fucking awesome. Right?
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>>168381672
you can literally just turn off the ki twirl in your skill config. you shouldn't though, as i said you CAN flux, the timing is just different
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>>168381783
can't you just retry the first mission when you're lv 100?
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>>168381664

>Refashioning the best looking armor in the game
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>>168381191
You can't reactively parry whilst you're mid-attack, and the guy with hyper armour isn't going to blink first.
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>>168381752
you obviously havent seen the webms of 2kats killing bosses on New Game + mode in less than 10 seconds

their skills do the highest damage out of any weapon, and they also use the lowest amount of ki while guarding
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>>168380976
>r-rrirriamsama keeps fighting me all night, has he finally noticed me
>he keeps screaming about smithing texts, is this some form of mating ritual in britain, I hadn't read of it in my studies...
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>>168381783
>Doing a mission without a guardian spirit
How I'm supposed to do that? Die and don't get your spirit back?

Because I did that and I never got the title.
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>>168381752
god of wind is the best kick, whirlwind is the best special attack, shrike is the best parry, sign of the cross is the best iato, you get a dodge with more iframes and FYI you can do random slice during living weapon
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>get both of Ii's texts in 10 kills
>on 60 Muneshige kills and can't get his fucking sword to drop

at least he's a fast kill and this is giving me thousands of smithing mats
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>>168381774

Abhorrent taste
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not at end game but

>soul matching becomes prohibitively expensive quite early on in the game
>steady stream of equipment will carry you so screw it till end game

are the prices completely fucked in endgame or does it plateau or something?
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>>168382016
Go to the Shrine on the map selection

Press square on your current active spirit and you turn off your current Spirit.
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>>168381737
Oh i know i dis say its not the pulse i was expecting. Just ruins the rhythm is all with all the stopping and going rather then one leads right into the next and so on.
I'm not saying I can't or don't get the spear just that its boring to use cause everything is stop and go. Like traffic.
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>>168381752
>2kat
>not practical

I'm actually upset it's so good, it's super fun but I've ruined about 11 bosses in a row so far because everything is murdered so fast.
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>>168381787
I'm just waiting until people complain about it when PVP drops. 2kat quickdraws with magic no doubt will be hit the most.

>>168381912
Maybe if it wasn't so overused, but I like mixing it up with various weeb outfits in all honesty.
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>>168382031
horrendous taste
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>>168381971

>"You obviously haven't seen webms of overleveled faggots buffed to the gills"

Can literally be done with any weapon.

Ninjitsu can one hit bosses, it means literally nothing

>>168382027

You liked about literally everything.
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>>168382050
The prices are dependent on the gap in level between the base and the material.
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Are any of the unique mission rewards worthwhile?
I disassembled pretty much 90% of them. Kept the kodama hat though
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>>168382050
I'd recommend mostly using the blacksmith for deconstructing and forging equipment and save all of the "Talk to Tome" points you get until after you save the old fag from the bathouse so that you can use them to make soul matching and reforging cheaper.
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>>168382234
You should literally kill yourself faggot.
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Hundred eyes would have been kind of okay if the eyeballs didn't refill your amrita gauge for infinite living weapon. What were they thinking?
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>>168382180

It is practical, just less so than the other weapons.
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>>168381752
Best skills that do more health/ki damage for vastly less ki, can be fired off vastly quicker, stacks elemental better, iframe dodges inherently and you earn a better one later, best parry, best kick.
Its also attached to best scaling stat.
Its literally Best the weapon.

Seriously pick a skill that you think is good and 2kat has a skill that one-ups it entirely.
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>co-oped with a guy earlier using a skin I didn't recognize
>thought it was Nobunaga at first but then I remembered Nobunaga is a silver fox in this game and his armor was all wrong
>recognize the cap as something the Ashikaga shoguns wear

...Is Yoshiteru in this game? After Hisahide being alive I wouldn't put it past TN to pull that.
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>>168382282
the shuva axe and red demon spear are pretty great is you do the quests as soon as they unlock
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>>168382234
No it can't be done with any other weapon and Ninjitsu is weak as fuck.

Here's your (You)
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>>168382320
You're objectively wrong nigger, it beats axe and 1kat handily.
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>>168382349
Yes. He's not alive, though.
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>>168381916
You don't seem to understand how 2kats work or how fast their attacks are. If we both attack i have time to finish my animation and shrike on anything outside your low stance quick attack and i'd still just end up blocking.
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finally beat umi bozu after getting him in phase 2 multiple times.

thank you ser onionnight
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>>168382308

>spot the 2kat weeb

kys

>>168382346

>Its literally Best the weapon.

It literally isn't.

>shitty range
>Shitty damage

It's rendered obsolete by the 1kat/kura. Before you rapid fire me 10 webms of some overleveled faggot on steroids just know you can even make the Axe look god tier with that trash.

For most people the 2kat just ain't that good compared to the other weapons, hence why most people drop it almost instantly.
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>>168381916
>and the guy with hyper armour isn't going to blink first.
1. anyone can get poise by wearing +toughness gear
2. if you don't attack then i won't either and now neither of us can win, this level of theorydueling is silly. historically weapons that you can reactively parry are bad in pvp
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>>168382496
who the fuck dies to phase 2?

it has 0 threatening attacks
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>>168382412

>No it can't be done with any other weapo

Yes it can.

> and Ninjitsu is weak as fuck.

Just like the 2kat

>>168382430

Axe/1kat >>> 2kat

Stay mad
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>>168382372
>Haven't had a unique axe so far
>See a mission which lists Shura Axe as a reward
>Dick status: MUH
>Benkei ends up dropping the Monopolyobe Axe or whatever the fuck, which has a more unique look and has A Str scaling and outclasses every other axe for 40 levels, whilst Shura Axe just looks like an upgraded Masakari with a minor element buff

I've never been so disappointed yet also so happy.
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>>168382234
>(You) the post
It literally can't. No weapon has a skill that fires off fast enough that does enough damage to do so.
2kat has 5.
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use whatever weapon you think is fun
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>>168382539

I died like twice figuring out it's attacks.
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>>168382594
You just said Ninjitsu can one shot bosses and now said that it's as weak as a weapon your hating on.

Please level up your trolling attempts, my Grandma is better at this.
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>>168382234
>You lied about literally everything.
it is objectively true that 2kat dodge gets more iframes. i'm responding to obvious shitposting since you have no argument but FWIW shrike is a parry with an instant startup, if you can't see why that's objectively the best parry then eat shit
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>>168382654
fuck you
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>there are people in NG+ who don't have the following titles:
>Power of Life and Death
>Invincible Traveler
>Lone Challenger
>Naked Fighter

It's literally free Reputation Points.
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>>168382497
>crying weeb
>in a game focused entirely around Japanese culture

bait me harder nigger
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>>168382762
I've been meaning to do them, but I keep forgetting.
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>>168382594
t. Conquered
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>2 hours into farming Hanzo for textbooks
>he's only dropped one for his Kusarigama
HAND
THEM
OVER
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how do you raise your clan bonuses? is it by how high you rank or length in clan
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>>168382478
That is entirely false, and you can go test it out on buffed Yasuke if you like.
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>>168382747
my favorite weapon > your favorite weapon
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>>168382497
>shitty range
Literally not a problem. Proper 2kat use means you're in iframes half the time and the other half is stunlocking bosses.
>shitty damage
Proper 2kat use is using your skills all the time unless you're God of Winding which means you're doing more Ki damage per skill than other weapons. As we've been over how 2kats skills do more damage than others for less Ki and fire off quicker this means they don't have less damage unless you're some idiot that only compares damage in a single swing using basic square or triangle rather than DPS.
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>>168382115
>>168382016
>>168381783
Reminder that if you do a run with a Guardian Spirit and you die, you have no grave to recover. You lose your Amrita permanently on death.
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Have y'all been checking out the Special Finds category for rare soul-matching transfer skills? Because they exiiiisssttt
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A couple of questions:

1. What do the red sword etchings ranging 1-5 above a Revenant's name indicate? Is it the difficult?

2. What incentives are there for actively battling Revenants?

3. Is there a mechanic in addition to being able to lock loot you're currently/planning on using where you can mark trash gear for mass sale/disassembly (similar to Borderlands 2)?
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>>168382960

>Literally not a problem.

Literally not an argument

>Proper 2kat use is using your skills all the time unless you're God of Winding which means you're doing more Ki damage per skill than other weapons.

Literally not an argument,

Your entire argument is "2kat is inherently useless unless you play in this super specific way"

Just use the kusa and drop that garbage you fedora tipping weeb
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>>168382963
Run WITHOUT a Guardian Spirit, my bad.
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>>168382909
I have and do. Its not my fault you can't time shrikes.
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>>168382998
i've been wondering if it's worth upgrading special finds
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>>168382762
I'm still in the second region, and I have the Power of Life and Death one. I'm just lazy about the rest.

I want to level up my dex anyway for the ninjitsu bare-handed skills before I do whichever one is the 'no weapons' title.
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Please ignore the obvious shitposter. The Christian Bale meme pic gave it away.
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>>168383078
has "not an argument" achieved meme status yet? can we finally say people are memeing when they say this? it's been like a year or two and i think it jumped the shark a long time ago
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>>168382440
>fighting ghost Yoshiteru
Holy shit
I guess Danjo foreshadowed it after the mission with the ghosts of the Miyoshi trio but damn.

Here's hoping DLC side missions will include ghost fights with Shingen and Kenshin too
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>>168383075
>Is the difficulty slider difficulty?


you get a small amount of glory and maybe what the revenant has on

of course you can lock equipment
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>>168382514
>if you don't attack then i won't either
Then it's auto-weakpoint rifle time. Another thing you can go test on any revenant is that every low-stance quick attack can beat any counter other than dodging after a successful block. And 2kat poise isn't going to out-tank axe poise.
>this level of theorydueling is silly
You brought it up, nigger.
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>>168383078
>super specific
>using 95% of a weapons skills and abilities instead of just the 5% that don't use said skills and abilities

Do you just walk around pressing square all day?
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>>168383328
Everyone does and only the 1% don't.
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>>168383328
Don't reply to very very obvious bait you dumbass.
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>>168378902
WHAT THE HELL ARE YE DOIN'
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>>168383121
Either you're misunderstanding or just bullshitting. You can't attack at the exact same time as Yasuke attacks, hit him, pulse away the cooldown, and still have time to parry his attack. It's not possible by design.
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>>168383270
>Then it's auto-weakpoint rifle time.
i can do this too though?
>And 2kat poise isn't going to out-tank axe poise.
you can get absolutely atrocious poise purely from armor. you can get like +40% toughness (that's percent) on green charms
>You brought it up
all i did was point out that every axe attack can be reactively parried. that's not theory, it's a really basic observation that historically renders builds unviable in pvp
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>>168383270
>every lowstance quick attack
Except my midstance block poke on my 2kats does in fact hit quick than a 2kat lowstance quick attack which is faster than your axes lowstance quick attack.
It does a bit of Ki damage to.
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>>168383075
The incentives for battling revs are glory (you'll learn about what that's for later) and maybe getting some of their gear.

You can check all whilst selling/offering/disassembling, which tags everything not equipped or locked.
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>>168383631
That poke is so disgustingly godlike and one of the best aspects of 2kat.
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>>168383270
>>168383569
i mean think about how ridiculous this shit is. in response to being told that every attack you have can be reactively parried, you're saying that you will never attack and fire rifle shots until i get angry and swing first. that's fucking ridiculous man
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>>168383328
>>168383251

2kat does nothing better than the other weapons

Nothing
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How does Damage bonus less armor work? is that based on weight or literally leaving armor slots empty?
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Should I go mid or low stance with 2kat?
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Can anyone post the guardian spirit infographic that some anon made? I forgot to save it last time I saw it.
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>>168383485
I do. 2kat midstance has a poke that also blocks. I Ki pulse II WHILE blocking and shrike. Its actually a really quick attack and worst case scenario i lowstance instead of highstance and iframe my way to safety.
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>spend the entire game knowing about copying Mujina's gestures to avoid fighting them from the beta
>decide to kill my first one so I get get the Yokai Illustrations entry for it
>spent the whole game thinking they were weird squeaky mushroom men
>only realize after looking at the model viewer that it's lugging around its ENORMOUS SCROTUM
Holy dick those wacky japs and their wacky mythology
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>>168383738
Literally not an argument.
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>>168383812
its shit anyway, it doesnt even have all the spirits on it
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>people debating hypothetical pvp that doesnt exist yet
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>>168383695
Its fucking perfect is what it is.
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>>168383879
I thought that's a rice sack...
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>>168383259
When we saw Naomasa's fire tiger in the magazine scans I originally assumed he was Yukimura and I got overexcited about the idea of there being a tiger of Kai guardian spirit and a dragon of Echigo guardian spirit, and like paired Raiken you could combine them and they're constantly fighting each other at graves/during living weapon and shit

Given the DLC's about Osaka I imagine ghost Shingen will have a place in it, not sure if they'll show Kenshin any love though.
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>>168383945
Nope. Stubbly huge ballsack that connects right between their legs.
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>mfw Ninja Castle
Where's the goddamn silver monkey room, holy shit
This is ridiculous
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>>168383925
imagination fights are funny to watch though
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I know that Close combat ki damage obviously damages ki at melee but what about Quick attack break?
Please respond.
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>>168383738
That's literally not an argument. >>168383756
Less armor pieces worn. The number on each armor piece is Defense.
>>168383879
You can whistle them out of their box to just to avoid the minor inconvenience.
>>168383945
Its a portable futon.
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>>168383925
I'm just going full magic and sloth + carnage everyone lol
If they get to close then spirit guardian talisman then living weapon
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>>168384113
Ki damage you do against blocks while in close combat.
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i can parry everything easy except for katanas from revenants

too fast i just have to predict when he's going to attack next and hope for the best
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why is every revenant wearing red demon armor now?
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I HATE YOU YOU FUCKING NINJA BASTARD
DROP YOUR ARMOR DROP IT
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>>168384249
NO TIME FOR WOOLGATHERING
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>>168384135
>You can whistle them out of their box to just to avoid the minor inconvenience.
Seriously? Goddamn. You mean just stand in front of a closed chest and whistle to not have to worry about the knockdown?

>Its a portable futon
Also a parachute.
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>>168384113
Don't worry about it/use it.
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>>168384285
Pretty sure it's also their table.
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>>168381403
Only the main mission version counts apparently.
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what's the point of moves that put you behind them if enemies instantly turn around to guard?
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I do wish Billy ended up keeping the golden locks, way more striking than the nowadays generic grayish white.
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>>168384237
Because the people who died to leave their revenants there were wearing it.
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>>168384249
cam you even get the schematic from such an early battle?
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>>168384285
Yeah if you know how to determine if a chest has one or not. its the stripes on the side.

Also a parade float.
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>>168384283
What in god's name does that mean

if I'm transformed as Yasuke does he say no time for cotton picking
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>>168384504
every single human with a set in the game thats a boss drops smithing text
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>>168384523
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>tfw getting bamboozled by the ninja mansion traps
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>>168384523
The fuck with this shit man.
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>>168383631
When a human or revenant has their attack blocked they're staggered for a set amount of time before they can attack back, this is why all low stance quicks can get in. You can test it on the 2kat dude in Tenkai's guardian spirit mission. The block poke won't get around this mechanic.

>>168383569
If you want to talk about the grand history of PVP in games like this range has always won in the end. Stop being so excitable.
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>>168384523
Still learning new shit. That's neat, I'm gonna try that out next time I spot a chest.

Also an impromptu weapon for bludgeoning rogue catfish to death.
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>>168384426
Gotta do it midswing so you bop them while they can't guard.

Assuming pvp is how people are assuming it will be it'll make that 2kat dodge op as fuck and against other 2kats it'll be pic related.
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>get to gashadokuro stage
>keep dying to a spear revenant in heavy armour that poises through all my attacks
>decide to test something out
>pop a sloth talisman on him and watch how his attacks track
>midway through a swing he still snaps into a position facing me

fucg, I'm too tired to deal with this right now. I'll see if I can smack him one tomorrow.
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>>168384750
>>168384523
I thought you guys were joking but it's actually real. What drugs were these Japs on back then...
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>>168384225
Ah I always thought close combat ki damage effects guard as well, how silly of me, thanks.

>>168384324
I have both, can't decide which I should use. I'll go the one on the right since I always use the Lion spirit. Gives a good boost to lightning dmg.
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>>168384750
jesus fuck
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is it worth putting a ton of points in stamina to get A agility on medium sets?
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>>168384718
Go to bed, colt.
>>168384730
it staggers humanoids and it stops enma in her flight. Its literally cancer once you get it down.
>>168384750
I only learned it cause i knew whistling drew enemies and i was trying to kite and it happened nearby a chest.

Also a bird net.
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>>168384750
>REEEELOY CHEEEENKEEEN-SAMA
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>>168384523
This is incredible
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>>168384523
This guy approaches you in the DLC and takes a huge whiff of your ass, what do you do?
>>
>>168384967
Go with left and reroll the Earth stat to at least +10 lightning.
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>>168369392
black
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>>168385147
is there no end to the uses of an ungodly large sack?
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>>168385328
No.
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>>168384930
I'll tell you what.

An entire mythological creature sprang from a dirty pun made by gold and silver smiths. Tanuki are an actual animal, otherwise known as the raccoon dog, and their pelts were used in the process of hammering gold nuggets into sheets of gold foil.

In Japanese, the word for nugget shares a homophone with the word for testicles. Combined with the fact that tanuki have slightly disproportionately large testicles for their size, these details shaped the appearance of the Tanuki yokai.

Also, in case anyone is wondering about if I'm just getting tanuki and mujina confused, they're both different names used regionally for the same creature.

>>168385328
No. They are all-purpose.

>>168385147
Also a hilarious prop with which you might spook your friends.
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>>168385296
Hmm why? Really like the guard break though, love to pull off Tempest whenever I can.

I take it the close combat atk ki reduction is what makes it good?
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>>168385143
the difference between A and B is not as dramatic as B to C
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>>168385714
t. conquered
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did suzuku used to have life gain on amrita absorption?
I swear it did and it doesn't now.
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>>168385445
>>168385614
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>>168385143
Not really imo, unless you're really high leveld & wish to dump into stamina.
Though with A agility you have a bigger dodge area making fights like pic related easier. Actually I had to take most of my armor off to beat him.
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I swear to god the next thread better be "the many uses of tanuki scrotum edition"
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>>168385714
ok thanks, guess I'll leave it at B.
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>>168385618
Yup. Thats a lot of Ki you can keep using.
>>168385614
Also a nice way to play dress-up.
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What does levelling magic do outside of giving you more magic points to equip more talismans?

Does it make buffs and shit longer / stronger?
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>Edo Castle
>have Kodama sense
>can't see it on the map no matter what

why
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>>168383972
I can only assume Dragon of the North will take place during Sekigahara times as well, meaning that the Date will be fighting the Uesugi- meaning plenty of opportunity for Kagekatsu to try and revive Kenshin, Kenshin to be a yokai angry about his grave being moved, or Kenshin to be a ghost.

I guess it's possible it'll just be William returning to Japan via an expedition Masamune sent out, but eh.
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>>168386118
Holy shit, a greater harmony is impossibru, can get to nue no problem, haven't been able to take off a more than 1/4 of his health though
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>>168386062
They're painting their ballsacks...

THEY'RE PAINTING THEIR BALLSACKS!
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How exactly does inheritance work? Does it just copy over to the same slot of the soul matched item?
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>>168386138
Guess the legendary swordsman is Date & we'll be fighting him then? Thought we'd go against Musashi but it just doesn't feel right if he's in & we beat him I guess. He's the undefeated afterall.
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>>168386068
Yes. Check the table beside the stats when you go to upgrade, you can see everything that stat does pretty comprehensively listed there.

>>168386062
Also a convenient boat for desperate friends in need.
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>>168386062
we have clearly passed the point we needed to stop at
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>>168386283

If the weapon already has an inherit-type skill, it will be replaced, if not, it will add a new line of specials, unless the item already has 7, in which case you can't transfer a new skill at all.
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>>168386284
Yeah, the case slip that came with the first print copies has Masamune on it, so it's definitely Masamune based.
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>>168386321
We'll stop posting when there stop being things a tanuki's balls can be used for.

For example, an archery target.
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>>168386058
We're already at 750+ so I got you senpai

New thread
>>168386425
>>168386425
>>168386425
>>168386425
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>>168385958
it never did, you're thinking of the bull
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>>168386438
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>>168386665
>>168386665
>>168386665
>>168386665
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>>168386284
Musashi was at Osaka, which is what the second two DLCs are about. Tadakatsu's big thing was being undefeated and never sustaining a serious wound throughout his career, yet we fuck him up like three times, so you never know.
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>>168368318
Just above fire.
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>>168384426
It does a fuckton of Ki damage as well, like the Kick but you want them to be block which makes dueling 2kats a constant stream of Ki breaking attacks
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