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Naziboos btfo edition.
>Official Site:
http://warthunder.com/

NOTE: You get given a premium aircraft for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher. War thunder is for faggots just like anime.

>Wiki with Release Trees and General Tactics:
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php

>Fan created skins, missions, locations, fictions etc...
http://live.warthunder.com/ (Warning! Pure weeaboo and horsefucker autism abound)

>Ammunition Types
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition

>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026

>Every Airplane Instrument Panel translated
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q4nybrogygdchdb/ND's_aircraft_reference_guide.pdf

>Youtube Channel with Tutorials and Gameplay Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/galahadgawain/playlists

>Steam community:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg

>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html

>Place to actually discuss the game that isn't simg
https://www.reddit.com/r/warthunder

>DIY Headtracking
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-build-your-own-ir-head-tracker/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161710468074

>Chart displaying weapon effectiveness against ground units
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H1_cSnYKSKbU6Giql2bMDdFoXefeq6ENWuvjQbtquMs

>Sound Mods:
http://www.moddb.com/mods/b0riss-sound-mod/forum/thread/support-for-sound-mod-in-warthunder-165153
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first for triahx should kill himself he's literally hated everywhere the goes
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First for mum will get me tendies tomorow
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>>168254621
okay vegeta. Literally whatever you say, vegeta.
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@168254580
Why are you talking about yourself in 3rd person?
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>>168254782
KYS VEGETA
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>>168254743
>>168254932
OKAY TRIAHX
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>sheepfucker and pedo going at it again
when will they start dating, all the sexual tension is really turning me on :3
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>>168254470
wtf i hate nazi germany now....
thats it im a commie cummie!
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War Thunder tanks is fucking retarded, there's no way the crew wouldn't bail after an APHE enters the turret and turns 3 crewmembers to bits, but no, the radioman just hops in the gunner seat and ammo racks you.

That's all it is is a memory game where you just have to memorize where the ammo and fuel is and then you win.

Planes>>>>>>>tanks
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>>168255016
kys everyone knows the cutest wtg couple is Reichtangle and his qt bf devilzmyshadow
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>>168255086
please don't misgender Reichtangle, she's very sensitive now that she's started estrogen :/
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>>168255036
kys slavaboo
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>>168255086
literally who
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>>168255059
>complain about tanks being unrealistic
>"p-p-p-p-planes a-a-are b-better"
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they're gonna put the Tiger E in a folder under the h1 now right?
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>>168255453
Since the ISU-152 probably won't be moved to tier 3 and get folded with the SU-152 after the update, no
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>>168255036
Looks like Hitler is the helo pilot while Goebbels prepares for the trip?
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>>168255453
...or all the fucking Panther 1s in ONE folder
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>>168255453
>>168255808
>>168256206
sorry pidor need to make game seem like more of content )))
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Why do people feel the need to spam this thing?

Is it literally just because its fast and has a somewhat decent gun?

I'm sick and tired of sniping these things with my tiger. I'm actually having more fun fighting shermans.
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>>168256630
because it's the only thing Americans have that isn't shit
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Torpedo bomber reward buff when???
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>>168257294
torpedos fucking fixed when?
they drown so fucking easily
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>>168257473
No they don't, stay within the drop parameters and make sure your plane is level and they work 100% of the time.
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>>168256630
just load HE dude :^)
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>tfw I ate a burger so obscenely big I'm having trouble breathing normally
Is this what being american feels like lads?
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>>168256630
>Sherman 76
>Slow
>Armor that will get one shotted

>M18
>Fast
>Armor that will get one shotted

Pick your poison
Only other difference is one causes a lot of salt on the forums.
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>fire with orange cannon breech
>4min crew lock
)))))))))))))))
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Why do people feel the need to spam this thing?
Is it literally just because it has a good gun and has a somewhat decent armor?
I'm sick and tired of flanking these things with my Hellcat. I'm actually having more fun fighting Panthers.
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>>168259128
because war thunder sucks dick
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Has someone already done this skin? I'm tempted to do it and submit it to gaijew...
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>>168259217
Why are post-war germs so fucking GAY
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How are the new damage models?
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>>168259431
Absolute bullshit
>Drive my AA vehicle made of a few mm of steel
>Get hit by a 100+mm gun
>Somehow die
Retarded HP system like WoT, uninstalled
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Daily reminder that Japanese and UK planes are OP and if you play them you are a scrub loser.
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>>168259758
>WAH WAH THE MEAN OLD SPITFIRE OUTTURNED MY ME-410 ABLOOBLOO
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>>168259758
>you are a scrub loser
My stats say otherwise lol.
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>>168259982
>>168260136
>Spitshitters think they have the rights to shitpost.

Your plane requires no skill to fly. A toddler could fly it any still somehow score millions of kills.
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>>168260235
Post your Spitfire stats then.
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>>168259982
Fuck off, spitbaby.
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>>168260397
>missing the point entirely
wew lad
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>see spitshitter diving on me
>evade and hold j
>feels good
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>Place to actually discuss the game that isn't simg
Stop doing this.
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>>168261264
Why would you hold J when you could simply go into a spiral dive and make him rip his wings?
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>>168261264
>Spading F82
>Yak or spitfire gets on my ass
>Hold j
>get hate mail about how I could've out maneuvered them and I should have kept flying
>Fags sperg out in chat about reporting me
>Always reply with :^)
Most satisfying thing I've done all week t bh
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>>168261264
>>168261870
Holy shit I gotta try this now. Cucking Spitshitters out of their kill sounds fun.
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>>168261870
I've been cucked out of dozens of kills by people who J out but I never say a thing about it. People don't understand that anything you say will only make you look like a mad babby
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>>168261395
simg is dead, not even worth shitposting there anymore
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>>168262569
i feel like if they reply with something like "lol" it's them acknowledging they got memed
anything else and it's butthurt
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Does the M60 get better with HESH?
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>>168263305
No
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>>168255059
The most annoying part is crew replacement takes less time than some medium suzed weapons to reload.
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>>168256630
Have you tried playing the American tree? It's one of the few tanks that is actually any good.

>Says, posting inside his nazibunker as he annihilates another 4 Shermans that can barely dent his UFP.
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custom meme when
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>Landing to rearm with 3 kills
>4v2
>get TK'd by a prem Spitfire while landing
>team proceeds to lose

The memes were true
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God the m41a bulldog feels so good

>Sonic speed to edge of map
>See King Tiger
>Damn, I can't really hit him in the sides... Let's just try for luck
>Pen through UFP
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>>168266697
>Things that never happenedq
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>>168267685
>mad cuz nazibunker penetrated
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>ask how to use P40
>"don't, it sucks"
>get 5 kills that game
>top of the team

so is it good or did i luck out?
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>>168268736
it has shit everything, you're just good
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>>168266697
meanwhile on the jap side
>see T29
>shoot everywhere
>no pen
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should i make a custom meme
any who want one pls reply
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>>168269047
yes
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>>168268736
P-40E-1 vs P-36G vs F4F-3 vs P-400
the only thing P-40 has over the others is the bomb load
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>>168269458
what map senpai
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>>168269537
not poland
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>>168269496
i tried the F4F-3 and kinda dislike it, cant climb for shit, cant accelerate for shit, and has only 4 guns.
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>>168269582
mozdok or carpathians
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>>168269758
mozdok
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>>168269803
any certain weather/time of day
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>>168269883
no
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>>168270034
its up
host: TheClosetMonster
pass is memes
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>"I play Japanese tanks"
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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? THIS IS THE THIRD TIME TODAY
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>>168270452

I know right, its even faster than jets.
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>>168270793
i-is that real?
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>>168270893
>speed not ias
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join the custom meme please
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pls join meme
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not a bad haul
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>>168273220
your stats are shit, they make mine look good
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>>168273450
i know ;_;
im having fun tho
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>>168273630
>fun
>war blunder
KYS!
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>>168270893

yes
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>>168273834

>LITERALLY outrunning an X-15
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why do hispanos sound like a death ray
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>>168274070
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Why is the jap sherman in the light tank tree line and not in the medium line?

Why is twin tube tank destroyer in the light tank and not the tank destroyer line?
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pls join the meme
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>>168275238
because it'd make too much sense otherwise
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lets play warthunder
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>>168268736
Its fine if you can get it to altitude. 50s at that tier just rip everything apart.

Turnfighters kinda rule that tier, along with the occasional blatantly undertiered planes that no one cares to complain about.
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What's the best way to play attacking planes like the IL-2? Should I wait for my team to clear the skies a bit before going after ground targets? Because it seems like flying straight into the action leads to death at around the 5 minute mark.
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I'm having so much fun providing bomber escort at 6 / 6.3. Anyone have a full upgraded tigercat and can say how it stacks up to a bearcat 1b?
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http://pyx-1.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/game.jsp#game=285
password is hmm
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ugh
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>>168261816
How's life in 2015?
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>>168278506
Ideally you wait for the planes are clean up but people never do that. Generally they just rally forth strafe 3 artillery and get killed. and go on to the next one.

Later in the game more people tend to congregate down low though, so maybe early is better if only for the sake of bringing down 3 shitters in fighters to ground level.
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>>168275238
>whines about shit being on the wrong line
>puts type 61 on the light tank line
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1.67 when
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>>168281325
with that armor the 61 is just a light tank with a 90mm cannon.
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>>168278684
>720p
>19k lions
>vehicles not repaired
>low settings
>48 fps in hangar
KYS!!
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>Ki-10 at 8km
>dive on P38
>kill it
>dogfight spitfire
>kill it
>dogfight another spitfire
>damage him but lose engine
>get assist

Am I doing it right?
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is anyone able to kill spitfires with the bearcat right now? I lose almost every game on hokkaido. If you are, how are you doing it?
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>>168283757
Bearcat beats the spit at lower alts, spit wins at higher alts. Burgers will never win more than they lose at that BR as long as people play bombers.
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>>168283757

I've been doing okay in the couple matches I've had, most spits you can still outrun on the deck so if you lose energy just escape and come back. I'm having more trouble with the f7 but it's stock and there are tons of shitfire players who suck so still managing 2-3 kills
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>>168283946
hmm, i've lost almost every turnfight with a spitfires so far, but I'll try it at lower altitude next time.
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hay guys, anyone wants to buy an account? i have mig, saber, b29, various assortment of premium tanks and planes. also shitload of silver and regular vehicles.
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>>168284406
how money?
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>>168284406
I'll buy it for 35$€

Please provide screenshots of your tech trees
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>>168284406
i'll buy it for 80 bucks
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>>168284406
I could go $90
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>>168284709
>>168284801
80 is a deal unless someone else wants to pay more.

get me money onto steam. and i'll give you the account.

of course we have no way of confirming that i won't scam you, but i'm tired of this game so there's no reason for me to scam you. hopefully that's enough.
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>>168285407
about that silver.
>>168284984
alright anon, 90 is a deal unless someone is willing to spend even more money.

i'm http://steamcommunity.com/id/cheeen/ on steam, befriend me and we can talk over pm there.
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>>168285606

Aww no cheeen, don't quit!

You were a cool jg508!
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>>168285816
i was in zg508. and zg508... is dead.
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>>168285953
...oh yeah? I remember you being in one of the 508s
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>>168284801
the 90$ anon isn't getting onto steam, so you can message me.
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So what if light tanks could spot enemies by looking through binoculars and clicking, which would show the enemy on the map without having to shoot them?

Would give lights a use other than sacrificial capper.
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>see interceptor approaching me at high elevation
>dive
>hold j
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>slap a HEATFS through the turret face of a T-54
>kills his commander and gunner
>next one damages his breech
>he Js out but I don't get the credit for the kill
I thought this shit only happened in AF
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>>168287458
Ground vehicles are not allowed to have any abilities other than point gun and shoot. This is why armored cars will be shit
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>infinite "joining battle"
epic
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>bring Bf 109 F-4 into tier 4 matches
>outturn spitshitters
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>>168287458
because gaijin would either have to find a way to make foiliage block the spotting or put in a hardcap for spotting range.
the first solution will never happen because of gigaslav and the second make the ability obsolete to begin with.
what thgose niggers should actually be doign is to encourage players to not only play "top tier" vehicles in SB imo. every rotation gets filled with the same top dogs every match, making it quite boring tbqh
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>>168289532
>a hardcap for spotting range
There is one. It's modified by your crew skills and the Visibility stat of the enemy tank.
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>shoot 75mm from my duck at a friendly zero in a custom battle
>miss
>he proceeds to try and kill me every single time I spawn
Why are japshits such incredible fucking tryhard shitters?
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>>168284709
no one's responding so you have a deal, anon.
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>be long time japanese player
>decide to play the americans
>already know what kind of maneuvering the japs are going to make
>make a Ki-43 and an N1K1 crash inot each other
>end up getting assblasted by a Bf109
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>chase enemy on hunter
>they J out
>HAA HAA I DENY YOU KILL XAXAXA

but my hunter was spaded years ago, i just play to make people die one way or another
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>my team is outnumbered from the beginning because lol mixed battles
>enemy team takes 3 of us down
>the rest of my team somehow crashes
>its me in a P40, an SB2M, and a Fw190
>Fw190 fucks right off and dont see him until i realize he landed 35km away from the battle and Jd out
>the SB2M somehow can't bomb shit
>its me against 4 enemy fighters and a bomber
>get the fighters one by one
>finally get the bomber
>5 kills
>didn't get hit once
>there were only 5 enemy planes because the rest also crashed into each other
why are subhumans allowed to play?
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>>168259128
same reason people spam T-34-85: OHKO gun due to broken damage mechanics, and armor that works more of then than it doesn't
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>>168295918
it's the tank that won the war after all
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>>168287458
I would also exchange their spawn cost with SPAA (and make SPAA cost as much as medium) making them "spawn of last chance" instead
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>>168296427
How about SPAA on medium chassis cost as mediums, light chassis as lights? M42 =/=kugel or coelian.
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>trying to grind leopard
>getting ass kicked left and right
>some matches are literal spawn, 30 seconds of movement, then killed
>occasionally hold out in a Panther II or Tiger II
>I just want to actually kill things
>Finally a match in frozen pass
>Well at least I should be able to rush this point in relative peace
>Tactically support T-62, laying down support fire and managing to kill another Leopard
>I killed something, this is already a win to me
>Kill a Dicker Max, along with an IT-1 zooming down the mountain slope at me
>Proceed to kill 4 others and somehow getting out alive
>Can't wait to see how well I did research wise, I must have gotten so many research po-
>just shy of 2k points
>Parts still not even researched yet
God damn is T5 German's Ground forces disappointing as hell. Still at least the Leopards gun is oddly satisfying.
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>>168296932
Should do Realistic, pretty sure AB gives reduced gains
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>>168296932
>not realizing leo loses all its advantages in arkaden
>>>/r/warthunder
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i have no motivation to live
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>>168296524
yes. armor vs no armor would probably balance itself out, more or less.
Maybe TDs could be also priced by class of chassis. Some German TDs are already priced as heavies.
>light
Panzerjager, Marders, Hetzer, Halftracks, Su-76, ASU-57, ASU-85, Hellcat (soon getting bumped to 5.3), Scorpion
>medium
StuGs, Jagdpanzer, Jagdpanther, Dicker, Nashorn, Raketen, SU-122, SU-85, SU-100, SU-122-54, M10, M36
>heavy
Emil, Ferdinand, Jagdtiger, SU-152, ISU-122, ISU-152, T28, T95

This could pottentially cause some BR shifts, and maybe even lineups somewhat closer to historical
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>>168297145
>>168297125
Realistic wouldn't be too bad, muh armor weakpoints are usually decently straightforward, even at the BR 7.7 range, but my main issue is that sniping at the moment with the stock APDS feels like a mixed bag. Even assuming that I properly figure the range of the tanks (not the hard point, mind you) the shot itself seems to have kind of a wild trajectory.

But I'll have to see. I was also doing AB because it was just a lot easier to find games.
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Nipps vs burgers
>enemy has fw 190
>we have fw 190
>Pacific map
>Realistic battles
Historical accuracy)))
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>>168298645
>hokkaido
>somehow managed to slip in a mixed battle consisting of the usual US vs Britain teams but with me in a Ki-87 in the US team
is just jap p47 )))))))
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just got discout drop
worth 600 GE?
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>finally get that tonk you've been waiting for
>it's an absolute monster and was worth the grind

Oh fuck yes

Also, I'm new so pls no bully
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>>168301934
>arkaden
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>>168301934
>edacra
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>>168301934
>not realistic
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>>168301934
>arcade pleb
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>>168301227
A zero is a zero. Do you want a zero in an american team? If yes, then buy.
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>>168301934
>der vereinfachte Spielmodus für klane Gfraster
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>>168301934
>Jet Set Arcadio
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when
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>>168303412
>spaghetti 50 cal
Idk mate, i'd rather throw pricks towards enemy planes from cockpit
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>>168302602
never flown Japanese one, that's why I'm asking

>>168301934
>pointing under nametag, until crosshair gets green
this is why I don't play arcade
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>Germans get the best tanks
>And most retarded players

there is no god
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>Type 60
>Gearbox bugged

surve have loved bug free nippon tanks since tier 1
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>warblunder
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>>168304073
The problem is that the shitter playstyle suits the the Allies better.
(Fast flanking,close range,peek and hide, WoT playstyle)

German tanks are all about keeping your range and and tearing apart the enemy with your railguns but since there are usually tons of shitters in germans teams too you have fucking Tigers charging into the urban area and trying to engage the allies at close range.

The problem is these people think this is WoT when it's not.
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???
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>>168305249
elaborate
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>>168308410
>The problem is that the shitter playstyle suits the the Allies better.
"shitter playstyle" is "aim in the middle and hope for best" which works best with Soviet and German vehicles, due to APHE meme.
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>>168308410
german tanks are almost as hard to use as american planes, amirite
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>>168308594
Valentine Day bonus. Did you give your gf/wife a present? If you didn't, you better fucking do.
There's wise saying: Man doesn't forgive offence, he forgets it. Women says she forgives offence, but she will never forget it.
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>>168309612
In water or starting on hill your speed goes constantly from 8-10 kmh up and down including rpm. Also ye cant reverse and turn at the same time
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>>168309820
>gf
>wife
>valentines day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea-MVgC_jz4
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>>168308410
Meant that germans are too retarded to understand whats going on in the battlefield, i mean my tank blew up and tiger behind me simply ignored the explosion and drove forward. Only reason he survived because i killed enemy loader
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>>168308410
>>168309612
This is why we need larger maps. Imagine rolling out with a squad of tigers and king tigers with someone who has a good rangefinder. You would destroy the enemy team before they even got close to you.
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>>168311627
both larger maps and realistic kill conditions, at least in sim.
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>This is not only an inscription - use it to get one additional reward!
>What is it? Look for the tips on our Facebook page!

What's this about? I don't have kikebook myself.
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>>168311627
The most fun battles I had were in those fuckhuge hilly maps. Long range engagements in RB are really intense. Too bad this game crams everyone inside mazy arenas where the gameplay is reduced to a OHK potshots contest, in a retarded effort to emulate WoT for no fucking reason other than avoid having to make a half decent made tutorial for tanks RB.
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>page 9
now, seriously guys
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>>168315147
To be fair that wouldn't be fun. Axis team would win every time because lolrailguns.
And I say this as a german player.

But yeah RB&Sim maps are definitely unbalanced as fuck.
As soon as the map pops up I can already tell which team will win.
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>>168313187
It's a faggy decal.
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>>168315638
You were wrong; http://warthunder.com/en/text/valentine-fb-competition/
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>>168315223
Reminder to take all these www2 tank kills and losses with a grain of salt. Especially with the Soviets
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>>168315685
>1st place - 1 000 GE + Naval Forces access

Generous)))))
http://gayjew.corgiorgy.com/
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>>168315501
unless we ditch use of crew as a healthbar, and make Sim realistic in what counts as a kill. Not gonna happen, though, it would make tactics and skill far more important than vehicle stats.
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>>168254470
i'm trying hard to do well in a rank3 4x20mm single props, can't decide which of the four performs the best for its rank
I feel they are always weaker compared to top german and japanese planes, is it always the matter of uptier/downtier, or maybe i just need to git gud?

my experiences so far:
>mustang
FM similiar to much cheaper a36 but can fly higher; still low climb rate, but good against single slow planes (zeros, chaikas), decent survivability against BVs, reasonable repair costs, recently got clubbed by A7 and 109g

>f4u
perfect ammo belts for default and many rounds per gun, shitty performance (not spaded yet), cannon spread helps scoring hits with my lazy aim, usually getting outclimbed or join battle too late

>tyhpoon
hawker pride, slow roll rate, i get a feeling that the separation of guns on wing helps getting hits

>mkvc
good enough but slow, the ammo capacity is too low and repair cost much too high, also suffers a lot when matched against +1.0 br

never tried the firebrand, the wyvern is a no-no
pls leave many replies, i'll respond tomorrow; can't at home because of rangeban

>>168291052
this is a nice webm
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>>168316842
Out of ALL those the only good one is the Typoon, avoid the rest, theyre garbage, for americans rush the D series -51s, ignore everything else
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>>168317440
tricking the fag who managed to get himself rangebanned, good shit
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They really need to make separate BRs for ground and air battles. There is no reason for the Hs 129 B-3 to be 3.3. It wouldn't be a threat to anyone even at 1.0.
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>>168317519
?
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>>168317519
what did she mean by this?
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>>168303643
>not angling yourself so nothing is green
This is why you need to get good
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looks nice

http://warthunder.com/en/news/4506-development-new-tracers-en/
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>>168319172
>angling F2 enough to bounce shell from another F2
good fucking luck with that
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>>168317767
No komrad ))))))))))))
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>>168319415
looks somewhat similar to the older tracers
>inb4 they """improve""" clouds by reverting to the old ones
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>m36 now at 5.7

HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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>Panther II is now 7.0
>T29 still at 6.7

Really gets those brain juices flowing.
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>>168320174
The T-29 is basically the same as a Tiger II, it makes sense that its the same br
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>>168320283
No it's superior to the Tiger IIs in every way. Just take a look at the player stats and the average K/D in it.

Should be 7.0 but I guess they haven't sold enough yet.
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>>168320512
lol ok naziboo. It has the same mostly invulnerable front hull but penetratable turret and it has a good gun with good pen and good post pen damage.

looking at player stats to balance vehicles is retarded anyway.
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>>168320174
And the m46 is still 6.7 and not 6.0
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>>168321254
>looking at player stats to balance vehicles is retarded anyway.

Your average american everybody.
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>>168319545
It's literally don't put your driver slat in frontal view of the enemy tank and don't present yourself. To be fair, I'm pretty sure it was one of the many maps that's a bit too open, but still.
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>>168321565
is this what this general has become? Defending Gaijin's absolutely batshit insane balancing tactics?

fucking sad tbqh
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>>168321729
kys amerilard
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>>168321768
kys
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>>168321768
kys
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>>168321768
kys
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>>168321768
kys
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>>168321768
kys
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>>168321729
>Waaaah my american KT 10,5 at 6.7 BR isn't OP!!!!!!!!!!!
>FUCKING WARCRIME NAZIS

Can't wait to drink your tears once it gets uptiered amerilardo :)
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>>168321892
>>168321875
>>168321847
>>168321838
>>168321860
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>>168321690
F2 front plate is same as F1: 5 cm, near vertical.
Before you gain enough angle to bounce 100mm+ pen shell, you'll make your side armor more exposed to enemy than front. So no, angling won't work
Turret armor is same as hull, with no angles to exploit bouce meme, so all you achieve going hull down is making yourself harder to spot and properly aim at - both irrelevant in arcade
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>BR update hit already
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>T-54 stock grind
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>back at 7.0

loving every bounce
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>>168324976
when i fucking played it i always got shot-trapped
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why did they have to increase la-7s repair cost (((((
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>come back after a lengthy sabbatical
>/wtg/ is still angry and arguing over BR6+ matchups and balance
>BR 3-4 is still an unbalanced shitstorm with frequent BR5 seal clubbers
>mfw the StuG III.A hasn't been overtiered out the ass or its HEAT shells nerfed
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>>168326986
kys slav(e)aboo
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>>168326986
>ablooo blooo bloooo the StuG III and it's 20,000 tank kills hasn't forced the entire line into 8.0
Cry harder Slav, maybe it'll make those heat shells not explode the flammable ammo, the fuel tank that takes up half your tank's interior, or the 4 crew all squeezed together into one particular spot on an atom.
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Is this a joke?
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>>168309820
give her this card
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>>168324727
>tiger 2 105 stock grind
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>>168327136
>>168327421
I should clarify. I'm a naziboo and considering I can easily average 3-5 kills with this fucking thing I'm amazed it hasn't been over-tiered into the stratosphere like the Hetzer. Then again, you occasionally meet that one guy that knows exactly where to shoot and it's all over.
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>>168327572
>Costs more than a T29

L O L
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FUCK THESE SOVIET PIGS
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>>168327572
WEW
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Are British tanks considered to be good?

I'm using
>Cromwell V
>both upgunned Valentines

And they wreck shit.
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>when you watch the server replay and your kill looks like this
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>>168327582
Thanks anon, I just sent it to my gf.
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>>168327848
kanonejpz/type 61
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>>168327572
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>168326941
>m18 up tiered
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I need your help /wtg/:

I'm getting very tired and frustrated from the endless suffering of the grind towards the M47 (I want that specific tank for personal reasons). I have a Chaffee and the first Sherman. I need a low tier OP lineup that is literally play&win even for a retard like me, to blow off some steam every now and then. It can be of any nation, with the only restriction being no planes in it.
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>>168329702
Anything German.
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>dive on a P61 on my spitfire
>shot him in my pass
>gunner unconsius komrad))))
>tail him since gunner should be dead
>get shred by .50 cals
What the fuck
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>>168329532
theres like literally nothing wrong with m18 being in tier 3 or in tier 5... if you cant get behind enemy with m18 you're literally shit
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>>168329702
3.7 axis is easymodo at the moment
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>>168329784
>>168330164
Specifically what tanks? All 3.7?
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>34k to repair the F9F in sim
>33k to repair the cannon subaru
>35k for the mig15bis
>13k for the 17
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>>168327582
I made you one too, slavaboo, hope you like it <3
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>>168329702
Got you covered senpai.
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>>168330842
dawwww
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>>168330364
Panzer IV F2 and G. Both have guns that can pen frontally pretty much anything up to 5.7, and decent HE filler for all your OHKO needs.
You can add 88 mm truck to it. Freaking ridiculus, basically Tiger's gun in Tier2 with crew almost twice as numerous as most tanks
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>>168331675
well the flak bus did kinda get hit from ''hullbreak'' update
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>>168331027
>anon asks for "easy win" tanks
>this jackass suggests the glass cannon with an inflated BR
>if you pen you're 90% likely to obliterate your target
>enemy pretty much guaranteed to pen you and in the very least take out a crew member
It's not an 'easy win' tank, it's amazing for getting the drop on people and cover-humping but you might as well have bullseyes painted on your turret cheeks.
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>>168329532
doesnt matres becuz m18 can still frontaly engage king tiger 2p that has 100mm turret and m18 can pen 120mm with aphe and king tiger p is only new enemy it faces really because 6.3 is kinda unpopular when it comes to tanks the only tank i can think of is bulldog and is2 mod44 but teven modd44 can be penned easy from lower plate and turret face so m18 up tier is pretty much nothing new actually maybe it can help a bit because king tiger p is slower than tiger 1 and panthers its usually faces so just flank em not meme flank em but for real ofcourse some maps can prove to be hard to flank on but thats how it goes in war thunder some tanks are good in some maps
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>>168333178
Use punctuation you illiterate nigger.
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>>168332108
>Letting tank shoot you before you shoot it
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>>168333358
is that your fish?
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>>168333333
>>
wtf why is my spitfire 6.7?
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>>168334039
Same reason my D-13 is now 5.7

git fucked spitshitter
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>15k repair cost on the La-7
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>168333886
its forced meme, you dip
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>>168334146

Fuck you why isn't the J7 at least 7.0????????
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>>168334184
>Laughing N1K2.jpg
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>>168333358
what you want like a guide for m18 or what do you mean sorry english isnt my native language?
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>Meteor Repair cost - 20k
>Me 262 repair cost 37k
>Mig 9 - 10k
>P80/F80 repair cost - less than 10k

What the fuck this shit
>>
is chi-nu II worth buying?
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>>168335225
>british emipre falling
>should've won the war
>Gulag work force
>Capitalist america stock collapse
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>>168335225
your forgot the R2Y2
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>>168335481
I legitimately forgot the Nips have jets. These repair prices are fucking outrageous for the Brits and Krauts though.
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>>168335259
>more unique than yet another tiger
>very good gun for its BR
>trash armour but has some parts 100mm thick eating shells
>good gun depression
>meh mobility
>good reverse
>trash turret rotation

i think mine was worth it and am now at 4 after 1 weel which is ofcourse where the grind really starts
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/5tzwhi/all_21_of_these_hits_were_on_the_same_ta_154_with/ddqmrl6/
>The corsair is faster and out turns most bf 109s and even fw 190s
Is this true?
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>>168333593
>I explicitly say I'm a retard at this game
>hurrdurr letting tank shoot you before you shoot it

A tank that allows to take a hit and get away with it is probably better than a tank that will blow up at the first glance enemies give me.

Smooth those edges anon, you'll live better.
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>shoot T-54-47 in a spot that should be a clean pen
>bounce
>check armor model after game
>the supposed 200mm of armor actually has an average thickness of 220mm due to the low-poly armor model
haha nice
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>>168336210
lmfao ritard just shoot heatfs
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Can the arados kill bases now?
>>
Rest in Peace T34-85

Or..?
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>>168336554
well it faces tiger 2h and t29 now

both which it can pen from turret face with acpr
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Why the FUCK are KV-1s so low tier.

Nothing can pen them even from the fucking rear.
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>>168336716
japs can
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>mfw finally unlocking HEATFS on the M48 after suffering through the stock shells
Who's ))))))ing now T-54s?
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>>168336675
>with acpr
I'm so pissed that I JUST missed my chance to try out the T34-85 while it was still at the old BRs.. It seems stupid to put it at 5.7 for no reason, they were easy as hell to kill, even in 4.0-4.3 tanks..
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>>168337096
That's a comfort if I'm playing British.
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>>168336716
M10
Pz IV F2
>>
what module do you hate being damaged the most?

For me it is the central gear leg, by far the most crucial component. I simply cannot fly without it.
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>>168334184
But friend, La-7 is worth it. Unlike the peasant planes (Yaks) and memehis planes(Polikarpov), you are the Guard. Your plane fit meta of RB Air pretty well.

Damn, even in the EC on China, I was able to win most of them against the broken Nippon planes.
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>>168337096
well do this

>set t54 47 to crew number 1
>que up
>if its uptier just leave game
>set t34 85 to crew number 2
>only put it on when t54 47 is on crew lock
>keep juggling on 2 tanks and fight only down tier matches avoiding crew lock on both at same time

:)
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>>168337229
British doesn't have APCR..? Just that crapy AP round. The 5.7 Comet has APDS which is FAR better in every way than the 85mm APCR
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So, does ultraslav still remove bushes? Because yesterday I tried to hit some fucker behind bushes while he had apparently no problem hitting me. No, I don't suck and I don't play AB.
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>Me 262 a1a has double the repair cost of the c2b
>More than double the Mig 15 bis and CL-13

Why are gaijin so incompetent?
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>>168337383
The win/loose ration will go crazy if I do that, but who the hell cares?

They gotta revert the BRs for the 34-85, the ZiS-52 already struggled at 6.3 against Tiger 2s...
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>>168337546
Fuck, meant ZiS-53
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>>168335981
Suck it up. Later tiers are all about 1 shot 1 kill.

Speed and Firepower > Armor

If you want healthbars you should go the fuck back to >>168204136
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>>168337757
firepower definately rules in later tiers but when ppl say armor dont matter its simply bullshit

stock leo/t74/m60 suffer a LOT against t54, t10, is4 etc because meme bounces

not to even mention how useless AA really is against russian t5 because of armor
>>
j7w1
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>>168337387
No, there are no British tanks short of the comet that get anything other than AP or APBC if you're lucky.
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>>168337329
Yeah, La-7 is dope, racked up like 100 battles this week with it. Only spitniggers and japs bully the fuck out of me((((
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>>168338003
Yeah I guess I shouldn't complain, but I looked forward to raping stuff with the 85..

I fucking remember playing British tier 3, stopped after the Firefly and the Churchill MK VII not being able to pen SHIT
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>>168337868
dude heatfs dude atgms
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>>168337916
FUCK YOU
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>>168337401
Yeah I also have no problem hitting people with my aimbot,esp and radar
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>>168338262
stock leo doesn't come with heatfs
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>>168338842
The meta doesn't care about that.
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>>168338262
>>168338938
not every vehicle is atgm or spaded leo

you will understand when you actually play t5 tonks
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>>168339251
But I do play T5 tonks. The meta is still heatfs and atgms.

I wish it wasn't because then I could actually use my maus again.
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>>168339414
meta might be nice in theory but in practice a lot of people run really shitty tanks with really shitty stock ammo
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>>168332108
>gun so powerful, you can point&click everything within BR range, using stock ammo
>in fully enclosed, rotating turret, no less
>medium tank respawn cost
>still not enough
how bad are you?
>>
>realistic battle
>tanks sit on opposing hills
>every tank firing 20-30 shots at opposing tank
>round eventually ends

huh, really makes me fun
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>>168339523
eh It always feels like more than half the enemy team already has spaded tanks.
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>>168338140
Spitfires can be problematic. But you are not in 190 or Heavy Fighter. I just try to dive and try to out-accelerate them.

Good thing about Japs is the fact they lowered BR of many of their planes, so instead of seeing def. not broken Ki-100/Ki-84 combo, you might actually see zeroes or Ki-61s. I recommend having wingman.
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when
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>>168337868
>stock shells have problems with best armored tanks in game
who would know...
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>>168340003
Is there anything more cool than bombers?
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>>168339934
thing is if you drive leo/m60/t74 you are mostly fighting slav bunkers that are pretty much spaded performance on stock
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>>168340079
fighters, heavy fighters, night fighters.
>>
What ever happened to ships?
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>>168340238
It became boats.
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>>168340003
no you get two different models of b-25j instead, only difference is 1 .50 cal but 0.3 br higher for balans)))))))

also you get b-25h but is pbj-1h instead, not army because morskoye vedomstvo))))))))))))) strafer nose mitshchell is also pbj-1j, because only russian plane get switchable armament)))))))))))))
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>>168340238
It's boats and big boats only now.

Because real ships would be "boring" ))))))
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>>168340238
there is a test session every weekend
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I grinded up all the mods for the Ju 87G-1 and thought it might be fun to bring into ground forces with AP ammo for the cannons but they don't fucking do shit.

I hit a ZIS-30 of all things at least 5 times in two passes and it did fuck all, what the hell?
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>>168340950
I can't imagine anyone told you it would be good?
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>>168341014
>posting on valentines day about a shitty f2p game

Why would you even jokingly entertain the idea that I would have anyone to tell me it would be or otherwise.
>>
>panther 2
>7.0
>no complain threads
kinda proves that germans have no awareness
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>>168341310
because in practice it doesnt matter

burgers spam t29 and slavs spam t44 so you get downtier 9/10 matches
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>>168339737
>Hellcats sprint into forest between advancing Germans and defense lines, and conceal themself
>AT crews dig-in their guns, and take cover, when artillery barrage starts
>defenses are still hammered down when Panthers are getting close
>arty barrage stops when Panthers can provide accurate fire support for friendly infantry
>Americans use trench lines to man still functional AT guns, and start firing at Panthers, while mortars and machineguns supress inantry
>at same time Hellcats start opening fire at German flanks, knocking out Panthers one by one.
>Germans realizing they are being flanked, call arty for smokescreen on known defences and retreat
>Hellcats keep firing until Germans are beyond range of effective fire
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>>168340379
>still no HVARs on PBJ
>still no Tiny Tims on PBJ
>still no Tiny Tims on Helldivers
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>>168342029
>Here tovarisch, here you see this boat, pride of the soviet river fleet!!
>>
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/343210-how-to-fight-70-br-jets-as-a-63-br-prop/&

>spits are this bad
>they don't know axis teams club allied jets in their props
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Hows the Jumbo Sherman at 4.7?
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>>168343420
it's still 5.0. 76 mm still 6.0
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>>168343517
no, fuck me. They actually lowered it
and upped Hellcat to 5.3, kek
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>>168337546
they should raise BR ceiling to 9.3 to decompress 4.7-7.0
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>>168343161
>Expecting anything from Shitterfire """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Pilots""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>168340950
>Gaijin getting anything right

https://youtu.be/CxEeyxpAYFg?t=57
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Any tips&tricks for playing SPAAG? I'm playing the Wirbelwind, stock, and I'm having quite a hard time hitting anything. How do you decide how much lead to apply to a target?
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heh
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so how are you going to use your crazy 30% booster, /wtg/?
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>>168339623
As >>168335981 said there are other tanks that are more forgiving of enemy potshots. I'm not saying the F2 is bad, but it requires skilled hands to get anything near viable performance from. It's just too fucking fragile for its BR.
>point and click cannon
Not quite, especially with Gayjew's fucked MM, but if you can pen there's enough HE for a kill, but you really need to get the first shot off.
>fully enclosed turret
LOL. You mean the one that can be penetrated frontally by Tier 1 tanks? Or the giant "shoot me" cupola that acts as a rediculous shot trap to shotgun your entire crew?
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>>168340950
Only bullying of tanks with bombs tovarish)))))

It works great against AI tanks, but for whatever reason the damage is completely nerfed against players.
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>>168329867
dumb spitnigger
>>
real funny how ww2 tanks are fighting Vietnam and cold war tanks
really makes you think
>>
really funny how tanks that were used in WW2 are fighting tanks that never got produced or never even existed
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what am I in for lads
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>>168349615
Being as fast as a Leopard while having far better armor and a planet destroying cannon with a slow reload
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what now lads
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>>168349615
A tank for cunts
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>>168335629
>R2Y2 V1 - 24k
>R2Y2 V2 - 48k
>R2Y2 V3 - 42k
And even the non jets are stupid
>Ki-84 Ko - 29k
>Ki-84 Hei - 34k
>J7W1 - 19k
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>>168349806
pls reply
>>
Sup guys haven't played in over a year.

Are ground target and tracer belts still the best 50 cal ammo? I want to jug / mustang tonight.
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>>168349957
oh how so
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>>168336716
>use type 5 cannon
>everything in a 5 mile radius is dead
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>>168350845
universal gives me good results
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>>168349615
>>168349806
I'm not far behind you.
I have the IT-1 and the ZSU-57.

You should either go down the T-54 line or the Tank Destroyer line.
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Is the American attacker line worth grinding? The PBJ just seems like a worse B25.
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>>168348627
Why hasn't this been changed? From the forum posts and videos I've been looking through the Yak-9T actually tankbusts perfectly fine and seems to be the only plane that can in GF.

>97mm pen at 500m
>can't create spalling (according to the forum and seemingly gameplay)
>half the time doesn't even register hits
>air target ammo can't even damage soft targets effectively

I discovered that the PBJ-1H also does absolutely fuck all with its 75mm as well, hitting a Tiger 1 in the side is pointless.

>>168350975
Oh ignore me I'm just still salty from when it used to be lower BR and I consistently had to fight them in Tiger II's. I remember a particular match where one perched up on a corner of the map and annihilated our team to SPAA'dom and we could not do a thing about it, I caught the shitfuck at the end of the match in a Kugelblitz and could only disable his tracks/engine/barrel but not set him on fire until the match was over.
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>>168351294
No, attacker lines for most nations (maybe every nation) are shit
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>>168350845
Go for stealth, gives you more M-23 I rounds which are treated like HEFI in game.
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>>168351294
>The PBJ just seems like a worse B25.
the pbj-1j is actually my favorite plane in the game, the 12 fifty cals are really good for killing pillboxes and you can solo maps with lots of pillboxes, and the 4x500lb bombs aren't bad either if you're good at bombing without a bombsight
i consider it better than the bombardier nose mitchells since the B-25J doesn't have good payload anyway so you're better off with just having a shitload of guns
the pbj-1h is arguably worse for everything since the cannon has fuck all pen and doesn't oneshot pillboxes anymore, it's only good for killing AI tanks which you can do with the bombs anyway
of course in real life both the B-25J and PBJ-1J had 1000lb bombs and HVARs but we all know how gaijin deals with historical payloads on non-russian planes))))
the sb2cs are also pretty fun, they get bomber spawns and 2 20mm cannons which means you can both use it as a really good ground attacker or meme on climbing low energy fighters with your death ray hispanos
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>>168254580
I agree. Second.
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>>168351856
I thought about going for the SBC but I can never get torpedos to work properly. Mine almost always drown and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
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>>168352086
you're going too fast, american torpedoes are pretty shit.
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>>168352086
get the new torpedoes and hover over their stat cards to see how slow and low you have to be, it's pretty easy once you get it right
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>>168352086
Look at the drop parameters on the torpedo. For the early model you have to be going really low and really slow, as long as you stay within the altitude and speed requirements and make sure you are flying level, they will work every time.
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>>168308410
The main problem for German teams is that gaijin thinks most tank battles happened in towns between German ww2 tanks and allied korea war tanks. The map design reduces the average LOS to ~600m. Difficult to snipe on those maps.
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>>168352536

The main problem with German teams is they rely too much on their point and click railguns and cry when they get just flanked)))))) by m18s, m56s, t92s and other glass cannons because of their trash tactics.
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This plane is amazing.
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>>168352879
*loses tail control*
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>>168352879
*sees you coming*
*bails out*

heh, better luck next time
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JUST
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>>168353161
>spawning on ass river
you deserved it
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>>168353290
Point me to the setting where I can disable that map. Or any other map except Kursk, for all that matter.
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>It's a "Brazilian teammates" match
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>>168354145
iktf

it wasn't even a troll squad, it was just their own stupidity

after someone pointed it out to them they promptly teamkilled each other and because of that we lost the match
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>>168354145
>get a squad of =PS4BR= players on your team
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Does /wtg/ like the P-38?
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>>168353002

Have fun with the crew lock, you fucking faggot
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>>168355474
yes.
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>>168355474
I like them desu
>>
how good is the cannoncat at 4.3?
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>>168353161
Axis RB/SB map ratings:

Blitzkrieg ez win tier:
>Kursk
>Kuban
>Fields of Normandy
>Mozdok
>Normandy
>Volokolamsk
>Sinai

Balanse 50:50 fair fight tier:
>Carpathians
>Berlin
>Battle of Hürtgen Forest
>Poland
>Eastern Europe
>Second Battle of Alamein
>Korea
>Tunisia

We're gonna make Dresden look like a fucking joke Allies roflstomp tier:
>Abandoned Factory
>Ash River
>Finland
>Advance to the Rhine
>Frozen Pass
>Jungle
>Port Novorossiysk
>Stalingrad
>FUCKING WHITE ROCK FORTRESS
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how do i xp-38
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5D8wrgkJls
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>>168356058
>axis on poland
>not full blitzkreig with a win in 5 minutes
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>>168356480
I seriously hope you aren't having trouble figuring out the XP-38G
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>>168358231
I was about to put it in blitzkrieg tier but then I remembered those tigers rushing into town just to get blown the fuck out by trillions of flanking M18s
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>>168358475
why
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>>168358649
All p-38s are easy as fuck to learn
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>>168358574

Just flank )))))))))))))))
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>>168321254
>mostly invulnerable front hull but penetratable turret
For the long 88 perhaps, not so much for the soviet guns bar the 100mm. Anything below 7.0 for soviets is fucked.
>>
how playable is the D-13 now?
>>
How much should I side climb with the D-20?
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>I got a post-war Italian fighter squadron emblem

>The most advance vehicle that the Italians have in War Thunder is a retrofitted Torpedo-Bomber where it's origins date back to the mid 30s
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>>168362301
They have the Mc.202 you dumb fucking pasta nigger
>>
>>168362301
>I got a post-war Italian fighter squadron emblem
>post war

http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/organizzazione/REPARTI/disupporto/Pagine/3Stormo.aspx
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>>168362301
>have to grind a month for this tiny shit decal
>tomorrow's decals will be absolute trash (except the 200GE-only one)
why are customization options so shit?
>>
>>168364813
Reminder that they'll never make grenade launchers usable and they're only in the game to fuck up german and brit turret depression
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>>168365336
This is so fucking stupid, adding a smoke launcher/smoke generator consumable to tanks that had them would add some actual depth to the game, or how about an option to call in smoke artillery as well?
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>>168365563
Or just plain smoke shells for the main gun.
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>>168362751
The Folgore is a 1940 aircraft, where the latest Sparviero bombers models are from 1942

>>168363014
They never used that specific emblem during the war. Maybe if they have the F-104 jet then perhaps I can use the emblem.
>>
ITT we have a respectful and productive discussion about the following vehicles:

>Tiger IIH
>T-34-100
>T29
>Spitfire Mk. 24
>J7W1
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>>168367913
MC. 205 Veltro when
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>>168368307
How is the Spit Mk 24 doing now that its BR is literally as high as jets?
>>
>>168368307
Kill yourself
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>>168368307
Shut the fuck up you cum guzzling shitstain
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>>168368307
shitfire bowel 2d
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>>168368307
tiger II is shit
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>>168368307

>Tiger IIH
Still a problem, but the BR shuffle got some vehicles away from the easymobiley. Not easily fixed until BRs go to 9.0 like with planes.
>T-34-100
Hasn't been an issue since the angled-armor mechanics were tweaked and it's reload went to D-25 tier.
>T29
Only crime here is being pay-to-play. Otherwise, it's same problems as Tiger II H while being slightly worse in every regard except having a singular AA gun and raw APHE filler.
>Spitfire Mk. 24
Finally went where it needed to.
>J7W1
Last I played it was a L2P issue when people complained about an asthmatic shitbucket whose only redeeming factor was dive speed, but it's been buffed to shit since then. Probably needs to go to Mk 22 or 24 BR if it isn't already.
>>
>>168337068

M48 is ironically pretty solid, but has one of the worst Era V ammo grinds out there. APHE can't compete when it struggles on Leopards at a range. APCR doesn't do fucking anything and is wildly inaccurate. HEAT turns it it into a nano-M60 meme machine. Wish it had some HEP to make the suffering worth it, Kanon90 needs it too.
>>
is the j7w1 actually good or is it just a meme?
>>
>>168369963
It plays like a fw if it had infinite energy like a spitfire
>>
RB tanks is very lonely
>>
/wtg/ is very lonely
>>
>>168369963

It's a 190 with better guns and speed but slightly less rolly memes
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>T32
>BR 7.0


it's clobberin' time
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>>168373456
>playing bore blunder
kys!
>>
>2025
>german tier I tanks have a BR of 8 because evil nazis
>>
>>168373643
>In a world with the Pz2 and german early spaa not clubing at 1.0-2.0
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SHOULD

HAVE

WON

THE

WAR!!!
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>>168362301
>have Mexican Airf Force Roundel
>have two P47D
>no MAF camo for either of them

seriously hurts my soul
>>
>>168374849
>what is war thunder live
>>
>>168375536
>devs are too lazy to add a historical skin because they need to add 90 for the P40
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>trying to spot planes with dust specs on your monitor
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>>168376164
>trying to spot planes with scratches in your monitor
>>
>people trying to mock you by flying like retards with smoke on while they try to get the spitshitter tailing you to kill you and just giving him the kill by J ing out to end the suffering.
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Sinking ships with a plane feels fucking good even in a shitty game like war thunder too bad that gaijin did their best to stop you from doing it at every step of the way and even if you do it you get a shitty reward
>>
>>168349806
>it1
>t10m
>t62
>zsy57

go in that order from best to worst, zsu is worst cuz it doesnt work in every map, t62 a shit because ammo is unreliable
>>
>>168254470
>property
>bad

>democracy/egalitarianism
>good

LMAO
>>
would this game be better if tanks are insta destroyed as soon as one crew member is knocked out and hitting the ammunition leads to immediate cook off?
>>
>>168380327
>thumbnails
>good
>>
>>168381157
No.
>light/medium tanks wouldn't have even the slightest chance at surviving
>heavies would be the only tanks worth playing and would lead to even heavier KT, Tiger, and T29 spam
>>
>>168381157
this game needs better maps and a reason to play anything other than the tank with the biggest possible gun
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Why is the T10M so good lads?

>The zoom on it is amazing
>it's fucking FAST
>god tier gun
>Nuke for a stock round
>Good reload for 122mm
>armor impenetrable to anything except HEATFS from the front
>Low profile for sneaking around
>and two 14.5s to shit on AA and Leos with

What is there not to love?
>>
>>168381645
>what is there not to love?
having to grind a tech tree past tier IV
>>
>>168376246
>in your monitor
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>>168382252
>trying to spot planes with a dick in your ass
>>
how the fuck do I spot planes in sim
>>
>>168382701
you don't
>>
>>168382701
you get close to them and take a good look at them at a resolution greater than 1920x1080
>>
>really excited to play a tank
>finally grind enough for it
>start the first match with it
>immediately realise it's fucking garbage
What's her name?

For me it was the Archer.
>backwards facing fixed gun on a valentine chassis (20km/h if you're lucky)
HA HA HA HA HA
>>
>>168381645
>awful handling on its place, as in its not really agile even if its fast
>reload, turret etc are still way slower than leo

you also forgot stabilizer, you get your gun on enemies before they do, except leo a1 (also since it has so low profile you get your gun on enemy F A S T )
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>just turnfought a spitshitter in a Fw 190 A-4 and somehow won
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>>168384234
Panther D
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>>168384234
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>>168386227
>he wanted to play the matilda
I feel bad for you.
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>>168384234
M103

;_;
>>
>>168384234
M41A1

It's not really shit, but it's disappointing when stock.
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Nothing wrong with sun, just grass thats sparkly
>>
>>168389043
is wet grass)
>>
>109 flying like a retard
>ram him
>no crew lock for me
feels good
>>
>That blast came from the Death Star! That thing's operational!
>Home One, this is Gold Leader.
>We saw it. All craft prepare to retreat.
>You won't get another chance at this, Admiral.
>We have no choice, General Calrissian. Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!
>>
>>168389554
Han will have that shield down. We've got to give him more time!
>>
>>168389209
just shoot him and youll never get locked
>>
>>168316842
>>168317440
the hispano P-51 is an absolute clubber if you know how to use it
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>finish grinding all the german tanks that i want to play
>decide to start the russian tree
>gayjew makes germans op and russia shit
>>
why does the p-38 climb so well
>>
>>168390760
because it runs on freedom
>>
>>168384234
The M103.
>meme armor that memes you as much as it does the enemy, admittedly not as bad as the essentially non-existent armor on the Pattons
>stock AP is beyond useless, bounces off every slope and does jack shit when it actually penetrates
>HEATFS just makes it a fat, sluggish, ''''''armored''''' M48 with a significantly worse reload

>>168387286
I know your pain
>>
>>168390760
Two engines is twice as many as one engine.
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>>168285407
guys, the offer is still standing. does no one want 2 fucking jets?

also can i get into jg508 in the event of me not managing to sell the acc?
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>Uses something other than a spitfire once
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what am I in for
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>>168392098

You can't change the email of accounts so no one is going to want to pay 80 dollars to get fucked over.

>not having every jet in the game
Sad!
>>
>>168392592
Pain, suffering, regret, an ass ton of Ta 152s and other high end interceptors that are going to rape you.

The B-29 however is a good bomber.
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>>168392715
is it worth spading or should I just grind out the B-29?
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where did that turret ring armor come from ?
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>>168392852
Personally I haven't flown US bombers under 8.0 in over two years.

You can try it out, but the B-29 is superior to the B-24 in literally everyway.
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>>168392630
ahaha gayjew at its fines, fuck me.

well can i at least get into jg508 then?
>>
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>>168393153
You can as all you really need to do is post here and know what it is, I went and talked to one of the Steam group admins and they accepted me in.
>>
>>168392958
not like it matters, just aim at the turret.
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legionara i fascista
aj karmela aj karmela
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>Better kraut spaa is at 6.7 than worse one at 7.0
>>
>>168392852
I would just give up on bomber line entirely. Leave them to people who can't fly fighters
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>>168393459
how do i contact clostie?
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>>168394328
Not anymore, with the recent BR changes and the position switch the Coelian comes before the Kugelblitz now, they've also switched BRs.
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>>168394472
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg
Iunno, friend them on steam?
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>>168394574
Coelian is better
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>>168394649
i tried, he has 10 friends, so it's unlikely he'll accept.
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>>168394790
I prefer the Mk 108s desu.

>>168394993
Talk to the other officer.
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>>168394328
?

In terms of SPAA, the Kugel is far better, in terms of AT duty, the Kugel is far better, what are you getting at? Just because ones on the panther hull doesnt make it better at what its meant to do
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>>168395251
luccini is a piece of shit fucking chochol who has a bone to pick with me since planes beta. that fag is the reason i had to enlist in zg508 originally.
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>>168395927
just apply to the squadron and you'll get in, that's what I did
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>>168395539
Use aphe shell to damage like top of turret or top of engine deck, high explosive filler fucks up the tank more easily
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>xp-55 test drives 4 times in a row
please wake me up
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>>168396339
buy the plane)))
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>>168396339
at least it's the low tier J7W1 and not some garbage like the panzerwerfer
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>>168258180
I dont want to stay within the drop parameters though. I want to blast in at 600 kph, splash a torpedo and zoom up to 2500 mts in the space of 30 seconds.

This is what fixing it means to me.
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>>168396339
I get nothing but rocket tanks
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>>168259216
It really does. I only play it because the alternative for me is WoT and i fucking hate it even more.

I honestly want to try armored warfare but i have a feeling i will hate that too.
>>
Why the fuck is aiming on a ps4 so fucking hard? Why can't we get some fucking auto-assist? We fucking need it!
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>>168397712
I feel you so fucking much
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>>168316842
>the wyvern is a no-no
Why? I actually enjoying it.
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>>168397712
Armored warfare is basically a 1:1 WoT copy with no playerbase.
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>>168399039
>$20+ for a virtual plane
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>>168397712
we used to play Warfare mode in good old OFP a ton. Pretty much every game ended with both sides having enough points for endless tank rushes, it was fun as fuck. Probably best fun I had with tanks in a videogame
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>>168399345
>being that poor
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>>168399039
I'm sure you love using your turboprop to bomb evil WWII nazi tanks

I hate how this game tries to be realistic and such, just to let different generations of vehicles fight together like they were contemporary.
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>>168346494
80% of the time I use 3rd person.
It's just like playing planes, learn how to lead. It's a honest to god getting good issue.
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>>168401321
>naziboo tears
I actually use it as a fighter in air RB mostly.
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how do i get this
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>>168402102
Buy both japaneese premium tonks.
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>Rumbling around in a ST-A1, park in an elevated position
>See a T-44-100 come up, hull facing me, turret facing away
>Fire stock solid shot at his turret side
>Bounce))))
>T-44 begins traversing to me
>J out
))))
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>>168343420
same as always, sucked into 5.7 and either killed by Tiger or IS-2, or swarmed by T-34-85s
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>>168401321
Just how many fucking time do Gaijin have to tell you retards that they balance the vehicles not by production years but by actual in-game perfomance?
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Quality logic

>https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/351604-t34-85/
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>German tanks
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>launch game
>F-86F-25 and final F9F are 380k RP now, just like 20 mm Sabre
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>>168395539
Quite marginally because 1 APCR + 2 HE belt, and the APCR has no HE filler in it. 7.0 would've been justified if they hadn't gimped it's only standout feature.
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>>168316842
here
still getting better scores with a36 than p51(esp against soviets) but it's getting better, recently autorepair on the the mkvc finished, not sure if i wanna go back to the 4.3

last round was like
>norway
>climb to the left, hoping to intercept BVs
>find a fighter/bomber instead, bnz him in 2 or 3 passes
>climb towards A
>few enemy planes remaining, some me109 climbed to space
>chase him around the map, he's still over my effective altitude
>rtb for refuel, then destroy the enemy landing craft waves (about 12-16 kills with 1 rtb)
>he's still camping at 8k
>go for the AAA guns in the port, destroy last 3 of them
>rtb, then decide to go for AAA at his AF
>he quit, we win, 1 kill 1 assist + dozen soft target kills, top score, roll extra SL prize

>>168389961
yeah i see that, anon gave me good advice
it gets better when i go fast on it
gaijin confirms by recently increasing repair cost slightly

>>168399039
i heard it's good enough, but i don't feel like spending money for renting a virtual plane
>inb4 its not renting
it is, if gaijin ever shut down servers there will be no refunds

>>168317519
>fag who managed to get himself rangebanned
fyi it's not my fault, probbably some other fag from my range

btw. anyone has any experiences with firebrand?
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>>168406343
>i don't feel like spending money for renting a virtual plane
But you eagerly spend your precious time for playing virtual planes. That seems illogical.
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>>168406343
>i heard it's good enough, but i don't feel like spending money for renting a virtual plane
You own nothing, all your belongings are temporary, you will lose everything one day or another.
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>norway as A-26
hoho haha crewlock please
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>>168406558
>>168406818
not sure if damage control or serious post
either way i'm not buying this plane atm
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>>168407560
>mom he's trolling tell him to stop mom
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>>168392630
they do change emails
i got mine changed
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>>168381645
What?
>It's not fast it just have good acceleration.
>Reload inferrior to every tank at it's tier
>Every gun can pen it from the front with their stock APDS
>14mm is good but not great.

You need to be 50m close to Leo and you need to flank it to damage it with 14mm. I'll take my Leo instead of this slavshit tank
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>>168410141
>coax that can damage MBTs
>"not great"
>>
>in conways
>hesh into leopard turret
>driver dead
fucking A
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>>168408340
H-HOW?
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>>168411887
support
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>>168412057
I tried 4 times already.
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>>168412851
what did they say
>>
Should I get a wyvern guys? I want to grind to brit tier 5 asap
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>>168413013
just gave me the link for the FAQ
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>>168413378
maybe because my case was special, email provider died
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>>168301934
>incarden
>>
https://warthunder.com/en/news/4511-news-make-your-vehicle-more-authentic-en/

>More brit tank decals
booooring
>>
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

https://warthunder.com/en/news/4512-development-type-87-the-japanese-gepard-en/

https://warthunder.com/en/news/4512-development-type-87-the-japanese-gepard-en/

https://warthunder.com/en/news/4512-development-type-87-the-japanese-gepard-en/
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>>168415575
im ready
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>>168415575
So, since the armor values of the vehicle are classified, how are they going to go about making up the values?
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>>168417185
they're classified?

it's the same chassis as the Type 74
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>>168415575
>1987

gook bias
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>>168417362
At least according to wikipedia.
Also, having the sam chassis means jack shit.
Gepard has the same chassis as Leopard, but the armor values are different.
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>>168415575
>nicknamed by field officers as Guntank after the similar-looking mobile suit
true Guntank when
>>
1.67 when
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>>168417478
>literally a 1970s tank with a literal Gepard turret
Nothing that isn't already in the game
>>
>>168418363
>nothing that isnt already in game

xept you know...a viable t5 AA for japan?
>>
the japanese ATGM is gonna be MCLOS isn't it
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>>168418672
yeah, propably some MAT carrier, although i only know of a jeep they had for it
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>Making shit happen with the Jumbo Sherman and laughing as I bounce 88 shells from flaktrucks

>Still could have easily lost the game due to the fact that my team were retarded blind bats and German TD-SPAA combo worked well in thwarting off tanks and planes

Luckily the timer ended marking us as the winner, even though there was no allied tanks left on the field.
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>>168418867
that's gonna suck
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>>168419057
>american tanks are bad everyone pls nerf those nazis
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>>168418672
The Type 79 missile used in the Type 89 IFV is SACLOS. though the IFV itself was introduced in 1989 so we probably won't be seeing it.
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>>168419372
https://static.warthunder.com/upload/image/!%202016%20NEWS/December/jp_tanks_tree_eng_1ec98e735f7cc3731eac3b2ae7348944.jpg
type 60 apc MAT
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>>168419525
> bigger RakJpz

JUST
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have research costs been changed back to their normal prices? I don't remember the f9f-8 costing 380k RP
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>>168419057
>Get 13 kills in Jumbo
>Still not enough rp to earn T45 shell

Oh man, what a fucking joke
>>
>>168419608
also missile that goes 80m/s
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>>168419608
>Bigger
>Slower
>And less pen too
>He's the first member - of the Nippon crew.
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>>168417698

Suckering up to the weebs, I see
>>
Haven't played since friday, just saw the BR changes and the game seems alot more balanced now - is this real life?
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M6A2E1 when
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>>168421419
yes
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>>168415464
>playing British tanks

When's gaijoop going to make some interesting unique decals instead of just sucking up to Brits?
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>>168421419

Things are better. Axis is getting its shit pushed in. Panther II drivers are crying their crocodile tears.
>>
>back from vacation
>decide to take out the Slav 5.0 li... I mean 5.3 lineup thanks to the BR increase for the T34-85
>first game I'm thrown into 6.3
>I literally just started out with this new lineup and have nothing researched
>stand no chance as Tiger 1, 2s and japanese tanks rape my poor T34
>take out KV-2
>shootrap Tiger 1
>just fucks up the turret a bit
>get shot by japanese St-1 or 2 which leaves me with a broken turret ring and 2 members
>killed by 2 charging tiger while I get bombed by plane
>they come up in out spawn and I just take out the SU-152 to one-shoot someone before I die
>bounce Tiger 1 and get killed by Panther G
>brutally lost the game

>get pissed and switch to Germans
>"The Tiger E got downtiered, I should try that out now"
>get raped by a M41 and his PT-76B buddy
>the PT manages to take 3 88mm shells without dying
>teammate kills him instead since the M41 fucked my turret up
>M41 retard was looking away and I kill him
>bounce off SU-85M from 20m and get one-shot
>take out backup Tiger E
>brutally raped by Tiger 2 standing no chance
>lost again without the team showing much resistance to the Tiger 2s in our spawn

>switch back to ruski
>manage to finally get 2 kills in the T34-85
>killed by a Pz IV
>take out the KV-2
>get some Japanese piece of shit
>shot a PzIV G in the turret and he didn't die
>someone tried to flank me from the behind
>soviet depression almost had me killed since all the 152mm managed to do was take out his loader and gun breach
>retarded team didn't see this going down 10m from the spawn
>they finally kill him but left me with a broken turret
>roll up and aim at a Pz IV/70
>shell just disappears and he one-shots me
>take out the SU-152 and manage not to die while staying in a big group of what was left of the team and capped all the points
>finally manage to cap the majority
>loose since we barely had any tickets left and someone died
>they literally had 3 tanks, 2 of them SPAAs
>ragequit and furiously make tendies
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>>168423112
>Crying their crocodile tears

Yeah, I wonder why

>krauts get a tank that isn't a slow, heavy, piece of shit
>Freeaboos whine until it faces T-10s
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>>168424641
>better gun than M46
>better armor than M46
>better mobility than M46
>it should be the same BR as the M46!
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>>168424859
>Then the M46

Reminder, you're so shit you can't deal with a slightly up armored Panther in post war tanks kek
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>>168424859
Nobody gives a shit about american tanks, just spam your T29
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>>168424414
>ragequit and furiously make tendies
You don't even know how to cook. This whole post is lies.
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>>168424931
>slightly up armored Panther
You're forgetting about the breech to big to fit in the turret.

>>168424956
>Yes, goy, just spend your shekels! Pay real money to finally fight on even ground!
>inb4 what are you, poor?
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>>168425045
s-shut up!
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>>168425169
>implying americans don't already field 3/4 T29 teams
>implying this isn't the same argument from the Dorapocalypse
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>>168423112
>6.7
>facing T29
>facing T-54
>facing IS-3 and IS-4
>7.0
>facing T29
>facing T-54 and T-62
>facing IS-3, IS-4 and T-10
wouldn't call it big difference. What can they do, oneshot me harder?
>>
>>168425243
>implying pay to win style marketing by f2p companies should ever be supported
I seriously hope you don't do this.
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>>168425410
Not to mention now you can run panther II, kugel, horten without having to uptier yourself.
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>Activate +500% RP booster
>Activate +150% SL booster
>Spawn in a map I have never seen before
>Go for the cap
>Suddenly notice I am alone
>Get gangraped, but manage to take one with me before I get exploded
>Spawn again
>Enemy is already spawnkilling us, notice there is nobody left but me
>In the first three minutes my whole team managed to die
>Take a few of them with me, but overwhelming force is overwhelming
>Lose
This has so far been my best round ever and had we won I would have gotten so much more.

Thank you matchmaking and thank you randoms.
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>>168426146
kys nazi
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just why is the 262 a1a so much more expensive to repair than the other german jets?
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>>168426381
Because it's good and people want to use it for grinding.
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>>168426381
were final Me-262 and kraut Sabre always 380k RP to unlock?
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>>168403884
>not grinding it out in that one RB EC event months ago
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>>168426843
>>168426868
well... fuck
>>
probably was about 3 hours in my P-51D NA-20
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>>168403884
>>168426843
>Sergey, we have added no jets lately, people are running low on planes to grind!
>easy Vanya, just double grind for existing ones, and they will last longer!
>Sergey, you're genius!
>>
>german 7.0 teams are absolutely retarded
its like everyone jumped ship over to the t-32
>>
>>168426843
Yeah. I've been grinding the Mig-15bis all week. top tier jets have always been 380K
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>>168427575
>be hulldown in my t32
>killed via shottrap

back to my 5.7 slavs i go and enjoy the bias from there
>>
Killing the same person multiple times in the same match should be considered trolling and harassment and as such a bannable offense.
>>
>>168424641
>>168424931

Reminder that tears then limp insults won't get it back to 6.7 :^)

>>168425410
Going purely off the last 20 or so games I played in a mix of 7.3 UK and 6.0-6.7 Japan. Axis has won zero of them.
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>>168283757
>That lowdah'z been nokked awt!
>>
>Americans literally have no 5.0(range) fighter aircraft unless they're premium

xD
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>>168430432
because all their 5.0 planes are undertiered to 4.3-4.7
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i kinda wanna leave it this way till t55 is released then just unzip the rp rewards
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>>168430432
>Raise the D-5 P51s to 5.0
>Raise the D-30-20-10 P51s to 5.3
>Raise P47N to 5.3
>Raise P-38 LO to 5.0
>ADD THE FUCKING P51C AND LET IT 4.-Whatever

Fixed.
>>
Why does the A-4 seem to lose energy in a dive so easily?

I dive on a spitshitter a three kilometers below me and he does a 10000 G turn, so I gently pull back up and suddenly I've lost fucking a whole kilometer of alt
>>
The T34-85 is ruined thanks to the BR change... Uptiered all the time and stand no chance with that crappy 45mm armor at 6.3-6.7

When will they unfuck both of them?
>>
Question to everyone with tier 5 tanks:
Was it worth it? I'm at 5.7 with most nations and Gaijin just keep increase the required RP and decrease vehicle RP for all battles... I just don't see the fun anymore, just grind through a bunch of tanks for what? I don't wanna spend months unlocking ONE tier 4-5 tank
>>
>>168431385
BECAUSE SPITNIGGERS PULL ENERGY OUT OF THEIR ASSES AND ARE PROUD OF IT
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>>168431578
no, fun stops at t3. t5 is a giant cancerfest infested with ATGMcucks
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>>168431578
unless you abuse sim mode with talismaned/prem tank then the grind is unplayable

tier5 is fun depending what nation you play

soviets got some meme shit like it1 and t10m that just roll try piles of enemies

germoney and japs got fast tanks with heatfs that are quite satisfying to lob through frontal armor of soviet tanks

burger and brit tanks arent fun, their atgms are vulnerable to tanks (as in cant shoot over cover) and their tanks are kinda meh without any shining characteristics

TLDR: if you play soviets/german/japs then its worth it especially if you add top tier jets to lineup since tank niggers cant fly
>>
>>168431794
I'm at 5.0(5.3 thanks to the BR increase) with the Soviets, but today I just looked at it and thought "Why do I keep playing? The grind is just going to get tougher and tougher and I'm never going to reach tier 5 until next year in this pace"

>>168431964
I don't know, is premium worth it? They increased the required RP for quite a lot of tanks I was about to research.. I've been stuck with German 5.7 since October(researched a few other tanks before the JPanther), and I'm still 88k away from the Jagdpanther, then the Tiger 2.

Also bear in mind that I can't play all the time, just every other week or so
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>>168432363
dont bother unless you are the kind of nigger who goes for 400k rp a day, tier 5 isnt that fun, especially since you are playing germans, stock grind for leopard is P A I N
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>four british decals and a jap one
i actually don't like this fuck you gaijin
>>
>>168432464
What would you recommend me doing? On one side the grind is the thing that still keeps me playing, but on there other the one that makes me wanna stop play

I also lost 7/8 games today with a real really shitty K/D...
>>
>>168431118
You can easily slap the P47 M and N at 5.7 because of their fucking airspawns.

And yeah, I don't understand why gaijin wont add the B and C p51 to fill in 4.0 so the D series could fill in the vacuum at 5.0
>>
>>168432652
>but on there other the one
Fucking hell, beer + shitty WT sessions really don't contribute to typing better
>>
>>168432652
if i was you i would aim for t54 1947, slap a talisman on it and get it1, then just meme with it1 for rest of my life

or go for tiger 2h or panther2, put talisman on either and try to get raketpanzer/leopard

but then again i like tier 5 tanks, cant recommend them for everyone
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>unit is overpowered
>instead of seeing what's wrong just increase the sl cost so people stop playing it
Stop.
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>in M60
>IS-3 puts a shell through my cupola at an upward angle
>passes through an already dead commander and out the top without detonating for once
>crew knocked out )))))))
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>>168431578
>>168431964
oh fuck off I haven't played this game since 2013 and I only came back recently.

Got Premium and a german T4 premium tank and now, not even a week later, I have researched all of T4, researching my first T5 right now (Leopard)

I don't know why you faggots keep crying about grind when the only real "grind" in this game is the vehicle module and crew one. Both which can be skipped for a few shekels if your're that much of shitter or just lazy.

Also I'm literally sitting on 10 mil SL I have no fucking idea what to do with.

Trust me you fags have no idea what real grind even is, I played korean MMOs, I've seen shit that would make you kids piss your pants.
>>
>>168432942
How do I get to the T54 "quickly"? For someone like me who can't play every day, I literally don't think I'll have the T44-100 remotely researched by the end of the summer
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>>168351361
The 75mm Duck can OHK most shits in the game, same damage as Pak40
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>>168433212
>Trust me you fags have no idea what real grind even is

the grind in this game is inhumane for anyone with some sort of real activities, or people like >>168433383

but who am i to speak, ill just drive my m60, sabre f2, hunter, t10, it1, t62, shilka, mig17, type 74 and sabre f30 while not knowing what grind is
>>
>>168433212
>spending money on the game
Yeah I realize this is what they want, but will getting a premium acc really help? Will loose 2x of the time due work...
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>>168433203
xaxa realistic comerade ))))
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>>168433402
>Hit x1
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>>168432652
>What would you recommend me doing?
1. Decide which vehicles you actually enjoy
2. Make dedicated lineups for them
3. Fuck grind
4. Play for fun

That's what I did with planes. I got all WW2 planes I wanted, and I just keep playing them without caring how much these 380k sliders move
>>
>>168431441
If a light tank can survive 6.3-6.7, so can a T-34.
>>
We really need to dehype tier 5 as a whole
>>
>>168431028
what does t55 have that t54 does not
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>>168434325
that's hard when the only reason you are playing is the carrot on the stick
>>
>>168432692
>fucking airspawns
seriously, all planes should have option to spawn at their optimal altitudes, it would solve so many battle and balancing issues, only Gaijin doesn't see it.
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>>168434387
t55 had million variants, its up to gaijin what they want to give it

personally im hoping for something with gunstabilizer and maybe a bigger gun for memes
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t64 when
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>>168434137
Hm, I guess. So far I haven't adjusted to the 152mm yet, at 5.7 the German tanks "magically" eat the shells. Either bounce them or not die, they literally go from really fucking damaged to up & running without any issues before I've loaded the next shell.

So I have some issues with 5.0-5.3, and they increased the RP required for the IS-1.. If they moved down the ZiS-53 back to 5.3 I could easily stay and cuddle with that for a while
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>>168434638
composite armor would make every single vehicle in game obsolete against it, well maybe not raketpanzer2
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>>168434817
it would make heatfs shits fuck off
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>>168368348
Never komrad )))))
Mc.205 is not off balans )))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Overhelimg armament ))))))))
1450 db605 never everfield ))))))
wing too stronk,american test of kapitalist bias
no fascisest plen for u ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>tfw F6F is favourite plane
>tfw literally grinded out the entire US and Brit trees using only the Hellcat
>tfw it took a long time but it was enjoyable because I was actually using a vehicle I liked
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>>168434971
meant to reply to >>168434137
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>>168434137
>4. Play for fun
>WT
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>>168434387
stabilized maingun
night sight (active)
+9 shells capacity (+15 in T-55A)
greatly increased fuel capacity
wet ammo storage
jam-prone SGMT replaced by PKT
anti-aircraft DShK (since 1970)
NBC protection (only T-55A)

so only things that don't exist or don't matter in WT.
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>>168435419
>stabilized maingun
>so only things that don't exist or don't matter in WT.

what?
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>>168434442
>all planes should have option to spawn at their optimal altitudes, it would solve so many battle and balancing issues

Literally the most retarded thing I've heard in /wtg/
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what's the second-best ATGM?
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Tanks are shit. Airplanes and boats are the best.
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>>168436010
>playing bore blunder
kys!
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>slav(e)s need protoshit 906 leo hard counter to be competitive
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>>168436010
German one
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>>168436010
it1>raketpanzer2hot>sheridan
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>>168436063
I agreed with this until you mentioned boats
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>>168436323
Planes > Boats >>>> Armored Cars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>T*nks
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>>168435548
>faster turret traverse =/= stabilization
Stabilization means that gun keeps direction and elevation regardless of entire vehicle moving.
It's automated. Even if you move vehicle so much gun can't follow, because of elevation limits or maximum elevation/traverse speed, stabilization will return gun to original position once possible. This is invaluable in scoot and shoot.
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>>168436438
Boats are cool
WT boats aren't
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>>168436534
Ships are cool, botes are qt, WT botes are trash
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>>168436534
t.Fairmile captain
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>>168436130
>>168436130
isnt hot mclos
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>>168435753
oh, and why?
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>>168435753
your post is retarded
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>>168436671
Because the wooden shitpiles that Russia fields would be 5k below the fight.
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>love soviet cold war vehicles
>have to grind through their literal trash from ww2 to get there
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The P-47N should be 5.3

The F7F should be 5.7

discuss
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>>168436853
The T29 should be 7.3
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>>168436853
Panther II should be removed
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>>168436653
HOT is SACLOS, the SS.11 that the first raketenjagdpanzer and the Swede Centurion has is MCLOS.
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>>168437202
>800mm SACLOS
what was gaijin thinking
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>>168436792
and that's bad how?
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>>168437279
It's not bad, chimps will riot. That's all
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>war thunder shills insist that Gaijin is fixing the game
who do they think they're fooling?
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>Try driving my tiger e again since it got lowered to 5.7
>it still fights alongside Tiger II h and other 6.7 tanks

br for tanks is a joke. I don't even know why people are making a big deal over it. nothing really changed.
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>Shermans can penetrate the Tiger I from the front

This is just for game balancing right?
The 76mm was still too weak to kill even Panzer IVs.
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>>168437267

every HEAT munition in the game goes straight through whatever it hits, so having 800mm of pen is just as powerful as the IT-1's 500mm and the sheridans 431mm
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>>168437351
not as much as they would if Gaijin made realistic kill conditions, though.
They really should consider it for Sim though, it would be nice to have one mode where skill matters more than a vehicle.
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>>168437607

(You)
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>>168437857
>Triggered burgershit
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>>168436492
heres another webm
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>>168437574
Yeah I replaced it with the H1, was pretty tired of it and thought the E would be a bit more "fresh" to use

I really don't see it either, just like the H1 but with some additional armor, atleast no more cupola shots. And it's hard as shit to use the top mounted MG since it doesn't move with the reticle
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>>168438070
>Germans design a tank good enough to be a peacetime high speed low drag Beer delivery system
>Russian tanks break down and catch fire on a parade
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>>168438120
Can add that it was shit, couldn't kill a PT-76B after 3-4 shots, I used being able to one-shot T34s but for some reason they don't after the new update.. After I died without getting any kills at all I went out with the Panther D, was fun but the reverse is pure cancer
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>>168437925

>dumb naziboo thinking the tiger's armor was anything special in 1944
>100mm of flat armor
>stopping a US 76mm round at normal combat ranges
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>>168433798
Get premium acc and a T4 premium vehicle. The "grind" will just vanish and become barely noticeable.

>>168433670
Again WT grind is still childs play if you ever played other MMOs.

But hey let us calculate how fast you can unlock every vehicle in the game and how much money you'd need to spend. Research not spade.

5 nations in the game with 2 trees each
10 trees all having T4 premium vehicles except the jap tanks which don't have a T4 premium yet.

Premium T4 vehicles range from $25-$40. Cheaper when the slavkikes have a sale going on.

So say we buy a $30 premium T4 vehicle for all nations and both trees of all nations.10x$30

$300. But you still need a premium acc to research faster. Let's say we get the 180 day one for $40 putting us at $340 with no sale.

Now it took me less than a week to research all of T4 with a german premium T4 tank. I only played RB/SB and got 3~ kills average per battle.
Playing about 35~ battles a day.

I expect it'll take me another week to unlock all of T5. So let's say 2 week unlock time with T4 premium vehicle and premium account. If you're really good at this game you can shorten that of course.

2 weeks for all 5 tanks trees and 3 weeks for all 5 air trees since those jets have a higher RP cost.

25 weeks in total. 175 days with ~35 RB/SB matches played a day with a T4 premium vehicle and premium account. Costs around $340 with no sale going on. Same as about 3 - 4 AAA games with season pass I'd say.
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I just noticed how compared to /wotg/, this general has very little anime in it
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>>168438404
+10 golden eagles
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>>168438375
Give me at least 5 (FIVE) proofs that the 76 ever penetrated the Tiger I from the front
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>>168438070
>stabilization on M1A1HC had estimated effeciency 95% up to 60 km/h
reminds me how Poles had to replace entire elevation mechanism on their T-72s, because it could not keep up, nor provide precission for new FCS they made for PT-91 upgrade, basically wasting 3/4th of it's capacity.
That FCS was still less effecient than one on Leopard 2A4
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>>168438404
Hm alright, which premiums do I use for T4 krauts and slavs?
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Where's the catdick, catfucker?
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>>168438714
>implying that 5 or more Tigers survived aganist Americans long enough to face their tanks
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>>168438714

Give me penetration tables showing me that the US 76mm couldn''t penetrate the Tiger's front armor.
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>>168438404
>~35 RB/SB matches played a day
the fuck...
>Same as about 3 - 4 AAA games with season pass I'd say.
>buying AAA games and their season passes
oh wait, just retarded, nevermind
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>>168438963
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>>168439248
what currency is this
>McAloo
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>>168439248

What the fuck currency symbol even is that?
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>>168438958
>Implying American tanks literally didn't explode from just driving
>>168438963
>burden of proof fallacy
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will japan get the german tiger tank in normal tech tree?
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>>168439454
>Make claim that US 76mm couldn't even pen PZIVs
>call you dumb fag like you are and to prove it
>muh burden of proof

kys
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>>168439424
>>168439443
poo in loo
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>>168438958
>As the division moved off, more artillery regiments opened fire on Cuverville, Demouville, Giberville, Liberville, Cagny and Émiéville and dropped harassing fire on targets as far south as Garcelles-Secqueville and Secqueville la Campagne.
>Fifteen minutes later, American heavy bombers dropped 1,340 long tons (1,360 t) of fragmentation bombs in the Troarn area and on the main German gun line on the Bourguébus Ridge. Only 25 bombers in the three waves were lost, all to German anti aircraft fire. Aerial support for the operation was then handed over to 800 RAF fighter-bombers of 83 and 84 groups.

>The bombing put the 22nd Panzer Regiment and the III/503rd Heavy Panzer Battalion temporarily out of action, causing varying degrees of damage to their tanks. Some were overturned, some were destroyed and twenty were later found abandoned in bomb craters.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Goodwood
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>>168438404
>1/3 of a year and 300 bucks to play a shitty fucking russian jew game
you guys are mentally ill
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>>168439593
>burgernigger on full chimpout
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>>168438714
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>>168440086
>wikipedia

lmfao
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>>168439224
>the fuck...

Average ground RB/SB game for me is about 5-6 minutes. 35 matches a day about 3 hours.

>buying AAA games and their season passes
>Implying I buy AAA shit and don't just pirate everything I can
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>>168440876
Nice Firefly gun tests
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>>168440939
I would post fedore picture, but I don't have any, so just imagine it, mkay?
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Can't we just all agree that The Allies tanks were horseshit and it's time to stop shilling for them?
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Why aren't you guys playing a superior game?
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If it weren't the allied bombing spam that ruined German infrastructure indiscriminately then the allies have had a harder time marching across Europe in their literal shit boxes
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>>168443431
Germany was superior to all their enemies, their flaws was the slow production of vehicles and lower amount of military personel.

So yeah, if Germany would've executed things differently and had some more soldiers they would've easily won
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>>168443559
>implying every german tank wasn't a response to a superior russian tank they had to scramble to try and defeat
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>>168443559
>implying Manpower was germanistans problem and not the lack of resources.

You know there is a reason Hitler tried to rush those oil fields.
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>>168443650
You're joking right? Every time the Soviets introduced a new tank/gun, Germany countered it brutally.
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>>168443701
They didnt have manpower OR resources.
They were a joke that had no chance from the start.
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>>168443804
>t. Burgershill
Sad that you believe the Jewish propaganda
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>>168443861
have you ever read a book on the subject or just pop-history youtube videos?
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>>168443923
If "they didn't have a chance from the start" and "were a joke", then how come they managed to rape the allies in the beginning of the war until Hitler's retarded idea to fight two fronts worked so well?
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>>168443804
Eh they could have beaten any enemy on a single front to be honest.

If the Russians wouldn't have had western land-lease then the germans would have stomped them all the way to the urals.
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>>168443747
My professor that holds a PHD begs to differ.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Yqaq6uvjIY
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Did I do good, /wtg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI2Y5N0EbxI
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>>168444142
What in the name of autism...?

Is he joking or can you just pull something out of your ass and get PhD in the US that easy?
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>>168444138
eh not really. You should read Operation Barbarossa by Glantz.
The soviets had the germans beat to shit by the end of the battle of moscow.
>>168444053
>rape the allies
you mean picking on some demilitarized countries and taking advantage of France's antiquated ww1 tactics?
They couldn't even pummel Britain into submission.
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>>168444394
>They couldn't even pummel Britain into submission.
That's something I've been thinking of for a long time.. Did they just not put the required resources or did they just go "meh, we'll just send a bunch of V2 rockets into London instead"?
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>>168444558
They had no real amphibious capabilities. The only idea they had for an actual attack was to use barges to push troops across the channel.
They learned from Crete that an all air attack would end disastrously as well.
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>it took 5 Sherman tanks to take down one Tiger

Just a reminder
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>>168444394
>The soviets had the germans beat to shit by the end of the battle of moscow.

Because they had western land-lease and germany had to maintain 2 fronts.

>>168444558
Neither their air force for or navy was big enough for a naval invasion.

Also churchill wanted to use mustard gas if the Germans tried to land. Something Hitler never even considerd.
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>>168444286
the latter
American education became a joke, ever since goverment start shoving dick into it, completely destabilizing it with taxpayer's money.
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>>168444868
Hm, but they did surround Britain with ships and submarines.. They could've easily come up with a plan to take it over, any reason behind this?
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>I buy premium tanks
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>>168444208
At least you're not posting arcade anymore. I cringed at the first shot.
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>>168444558
they were actually doing pretty well in the BoB, but then a few Ju-88s bombed some civilian locations by mistake and some wellingtons did some retaliatory night raids on Germany, Goering lost his shit and the Luftwaffe stated focusing on bombing civilians. This allowed the RAF to completely rebuild from almost being at a breaking point
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People underestimate this thing so much
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>there are probbly less than 5 non-premium/event vehicles in the game I enjoy
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>>168445054
>with ships and submarines
no not really. The german navy was a joke outside of their subs which were made into a joke once the allies figured out the convoy system.
>>168444997
>Because they had western land-lease and germany had to maintain 2 fronts
Germans invaded USSR in 1941. The western front didnt even open up until mid '44. By that time the soviets had already pushed into poland.
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>>168445054
Hitler really underestimated the soviets. He though he could just kick in the front door and Stalin would capitulate.

Giving him all the resources of the SU to prepare for a real invasion of Britain.
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>>168444997
>Because they had western land-lease and germany had to maintain 2 fronts.
it was less than year into a war. Only gear Soviets recieved by then were P-40s, Hurricanes, Matildas and Bren carriers, so basically aging shit, Allies could part with without worry
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>>168445367
Why does it feel like the entire war was just a big plot hole?
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>>168445367
Lend-Lease Act was signed 1941.

>The western front didnt even open up until mid '44
The air war over germany started well before that crippling their industry.
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>>168445519
because an event as big as ww2 gets clouded in a sea of bullshit history meant to be entertaining.
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Why do you get crew locked when you die to an enemy? I thought it was just to stop people from J'ing out from bad match making.
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>>168445648
In personal messages between Churchill and Stalin Churchill himself says "The chiefs of staff do not see any way of doing anything on a scale likely to be of the slightest use to you"
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>>168444997
That's how Germans estimated capability of their divisions at start of Barbarossa, and after year of fighting.
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>>168445397
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn1qRvyN5tk
>"The Soviets suffered tremendous looses, and their tanks didn't stand a chance against the germans"
>"I certainly never imagined that we would loose the war, it didn't even come to my mine. I never heard my comrades even mentioning it"
At the beginning they were absolute shit, the Soviets had WAAAAAY too much luck on their side, otherwise they would've surrendered immediately.

Also have a look at 16:18
>"The Germans were completely shocked over these vehicles, they would've never imagined sub-humans, have such a vehicle. It was actually superior than what they had at that time"

>"Their shells just bounced right off the frontal armor"
(Not sure at what time this was showed and mentioned)

So yeah, Hitler greatly underestimated the Soviets
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>>168445075
I honestly have no idea what this picture tries to show
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>>168446469
In Guderian's book he says Hitler said he never would have started the war had he believed Guderian's statements about the Russian armored capacity.
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>>168446248
>>168446417
Yet the western allies still sent the SU 16,368,000 tons of goods and material. Hell most of that was actually food because

>Commies
>Not in charge of starving to death

There is still no doubt that Germany would have beaten the SU if it wasn't for the western allies.
Sure the war might have taken way longer but eventually the SU would break before a fascist europe would.
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>>168446737
Did they have no intel at all?

They were allied, they could've conquered the world together...
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>>168446886
>There is still no doubt that Germany would have beaten the SU if it wasn't for the western allies.
>Sure the war might have taken way longer but eventually the SU would break before a fascist europe would.
Are you even reading any of the facts and figures being presented to you?
Hitler didnt push Moscow immediately because even he understood the Army was running out of food and needed to secure the agricultural Ukraine in order to maintain the war effort. That's why he turned the forces south towards Kiev and left the rest in a holding pattern outside of moscow.
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>>168446898
>they could have conquered the world together
Stalin was planning on betraying the Germans, Hitler beat him to it.
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>>168444208
>no sneks
What was meant by this?
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>>168446886
>There is still no doubt that Germany would have beaten the SU if it wasn't for the western allies.
>Sure the war might have taken way longer but eventually the SU would break before a fascist europe would.
I don't know about that, Battle of Stalingrad was before the Allies landing, and it marked that the German army could be beaten. Then Germany's military significantly weakened and the Soviets pushed back fast as hell plus the gained a shitload of new recruits. So as >>168445367 said, the Soviets could've beaten Germany without the Allies help at the Western Front(not sure about all the trading they did)
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>>168446898
Russia's military was deceptive because they had so many trained civilians waiting in reserve and had a relatively small peacetime army.
The Germans didnt expect the soviets to raise such large forces so quickly.
That's why the Germans burnt through all of their reserves while the soviets were still pulling them up and throwing them at them.
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>>168447178
hell even the battle of Moscow and the subsequent counter attacks marked that the german army could be beaten.
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>>168437337
WASTED
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>>168447178
The Battle of stalingrad was before the first allied landings in north Africa or Italy or the air war over Britain?
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>>168447352
Yeah, forgot that. Must've been really sweaty at Stalin when the Germans managed to get to Moscows suburbs during a military parade.

Fun fact: They actually reached the end bus stop for the bus that went to the Red Square were the parade was held
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>>168447058
Yes and? Without western allies bombing the shit out of germany and no need to maintain any forces in the west at all everything could be focused on the eastern front.

>>168447178
>>168447352
No just no.
No western front = Tiger IIs rolling through moscow.

Hell Germany would have gotten the nuke first and just ended the war right then.
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>>168447524
Battle of Stalingrad: 23 August 1942 – 2 February 1943
OP Torch: Started 8 November 1942
Landing in Italy: 3 September 1943
Air War over Britain: July 1940 to June 1941
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>>168447524
you realize the germans had very little in africa right?
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>>168446886
>There is still no doubt that Germany would have beaten the SU if it wasn't for the western allies.
You're absolutely bonkers. The germans didn't have the manpower, much less the petrol to win a war of attrition against the USSR. Unless, of course, you think putting 16 year olds in tigers is sustainable.
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>>168447741
>Tiger IIs rolling through moscow
Weren't Tiger 2s a response to The Allies landing?
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>>168447924
No, but that was its first use.
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>>168437135
Literally KYS
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>>168447741
>ignoring all facts and figures and actual historical evidence
>instead saying "well I like germany more so they would win"
cmon now. get some self awareness. German stuff is cool but they were an even smaller nation than japan. They had no chance.

The Germans got slapped at Moscow and launched operation Blau in response. All they could manage was a single offensive on one front that didnt even turn out successful.
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Reminder that if you use the M18 you are probably a spawn camping retard who needs to learn to play.
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>>168448240
It's hard NOT to spawn camp when one team gets BTFO instantly on 1x1 km maps.
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>>168446886
>Yet the western allies still sent the SU 16,368,000 tons of goods and material.
why wouldn't they? Stopping one offensive doesn't mean victory. Both war of attrition or stalemate, could lead to collapse of Soviet Union as well as Germany. Or worse, peacetalks, which would allow Germans to get their shit together, and try to win West once again. Why take chances?
With Soviets bleeding German army, and Allies both destroying German ability to replace loses and keeping Soviet Army in fighting condition, German defeat was only matter of time.
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>>168448329
Spawn camping isn't a big deal when one team has obviously smeared the other but I see pricks camping the spawns still in early-mid game and totally shifting the balance of the match.
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>>168448065
Hm ok, wouldn't the US have stepped in no matter though? Or maybe that would've been after the Nazis conquered the biggest country in the world
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what is the strongest tank in the game relative to its opposition?
IT-1 excluded
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>>168445272

>This thing is 7.3
>The M103 with incorrect armor and historically incorrect AP round penetration is still 7.7
>The Centurion is 7.0 while the M48 is 7.7

really fires up the neurons
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>>168448240
This
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>>168447909
>>168448165
>No war in the west
>Stable german industry
>Soviets have no vital western land-lease
>Germany would have pushed so far in the SU that they would have secured all their vital transportation network points.
>B-But the SU would have still won because they could throw a million peasants at Germany!
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>>168447773
So it was after Britain and OP torch was during it why do commies act like nobody else was doing anything until 1944?
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>>168448240

Reminder that Hellcats have hullbreak now and if you still have issues with a tank you never should have to begin with you are a drooling naziboo retard just like every german tank player
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>>168447909
Caucasus oil fields. They were actual target of offensive than ended up stuck in Stalingrad.
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>>168448645
>Stable german industry
German industry could hardly even be called stable before war broke out
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>>168448905
Seriously stop Burgershill
>>
There is NO REASON to play this game without the grind.

You're addicts.
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>>168448240
and what else are they supposed to use? M4 with no mobility and 3.7 armor?
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>>168448647
because at the high point of german involvement in africa they had only 8 divisions there.
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>>168449036
yes i have more fun 1 shotting them with my 88mm holocaust rounds
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>>168449017
It's pretty fun sometimes to club in tigers
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>>168449017
yup
if I get into the mood, I grind like crazy, get the tank/plane, dont even play it and continue to grind or quit the game for 5 months
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>>168448645
>land-lease
Lend-lease was obviously helpful, but remind me which aircraft is the most produced military aircraft of all time? Does it fire western ordnance? What about the most produced tank of all time, what does it fire?

>Stable german industry
This was never ever a thing until after the west helped rebuild West Germany.

>No war in the west
>still have to occupy hostile France

>>168448870
>Caucasus oil fields.
Literally an impossible goal.

It would've been even more of a bloodbath, but you're both dreaming if you think Hitler ever had a chance.
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>>168449052
And how many in France, Greece, and other areas?
How many flak guns stayed home?
How much of the Luftwaffe stayed in Europe and wasn't sent to ussr?
How much trucks, locomotives, food, steel, aluminum, and other necessities did the USSR get in LL?
How would the USSR fight the IJN?
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>>168449326
>Muh invincible Rushka CCCP
>Meanwhile in reality the commie shithole gets its shit kicked in by fucking FINLAND for a while.

Face it in a 1v1 the SU would put up a decent fight but Germany would still destroy them.
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>>168449554
>How would the USSR fight the IJN?
Why would they? They had an NAP.
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>>168449326
Was it made with western steel and aluminum? Was it made in factories freed up from producing trucks/trains buy LL deliveries.
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>>168449625
>for a while
>almost
>nearly
>but didn't.
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>>168449625

horseshoes and hand grenades
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>>168449693
You mean like the one they had hitler so they could both DP poland.
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>>168449009
he's right though. Nazis boosted industry by pumping it with money they made by selling national gold reserves. It wouldn't last. You can't manipulate market using goverment's money and not expect things to go to hell eventually.
American made same mistake in 20s, which led to 2 economical collapses, second known as Great Depression.
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>>168449554
http://www.axishistory.com/axis-nations/134-campaigns-a-operations/campaigns-a-operations/2085-number-of-german-divisions-by-front-in-world-war-ii

>Theoretical 1v1 of germany v ussr
>how would they fight the IJN
cmon now
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>>168449829
>Tiny finland inflicting absolutely insane losses on the russians
>B-BUT WE STILL WON (((((

Your average slavaboo everybody.
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>>168449963
Wasn't this all a hypothetical on a USSR vs Nazi 1vs1 anyway?
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>>168450037
>Allies of germany
>not getting involved
cmon now
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>>168450204
Wonder what secrets we'd find if /vg/ had flags
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>>168450243
>allies of Russia
>not getting involved
lad...
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>>168450243
>allies of poland
>not getting involved
cmon now

Not to mention, the IJN literally did not get involved.
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>>168450238
No? I thought it was a US and GB somehow sit out of the war, not that germanys do to.
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>>168450362
>Invaded china
>Bombed the US
>not getting involved
cmon now
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>>168450553
>the imperial japanese navy invaded china
hmm...

They didn't get involved with the russians, you mong. They specifically signed the Soviet-Japanese Neutrality Pact in order to get out of being involved.
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>>168450243
Axis countries had no obligation to declare war on countries other members were at war with.
Japan never declared war on USSR. Only reason Germany declared war at USA was because they expected US to join war by mid-42 anyway, and US Navy was already openly provoking Kriegsmarine.

Italians were dumbasses.
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>>168450837
>Italians were dumbasses.
Anything new?
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>>168448534
ta 154
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>>168448645
>Stable german industry

not after the swedes cucked them out of their iron ore supplies :^)
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new bread
>>168452407
>>168452407
>>168452407
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