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/hsg/ - Hearthstone Cucks General

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Dumb cucks post in this thread edition

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Shrek.html

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

>Previous thread
>>168136247
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first for my life for aya
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im going to sleep enjoy you r dead fucking thread
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>Have 12 HP
>Pirate Warrior has 10
>Pirate Warrior has 12 Damage on Board
>No way to remove it, I'm dead
>Only an Aya in my hand that summons a 5/5 Jade
>Suddenly remember Pirate warrioes are fucking dumb
>Play Aya and pass
>He trades
>Kill him next turn

I refuse the believe I just witnessed this
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why am i still playing this shitty game
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>>168238005
Because you're a dumb cuck. There is a reason why these generals are called hearthstone cucks.
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>>168238005
Dust all your cards. You only have to do this once and after that all of your motivation to play this game goes away. This works 100%.
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>>168236826
can someone do a better shoop of this OP imagine?
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>>168238164
Don't have any motivation to play it it anyway. I still do it.
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>>168238294
That's the skinnerbox effect. Just fucking dust your collection.
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>>168238261
The shittieness is part of the charm.
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>>168237956
>tfw you highlight one of your minions and the dude actually trades when he has lethal
lol
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>>168238372
Are you telling me to break the conditioning?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2-4rJmYEfU
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>>168238005
play heroes of the storm for a while, you'll love it
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>>168148704
>>168148981

People already know the drop rates in Hearthstone. Knowing that a legendary drops in an average of one pack out of 20 is not going to make anyone quit who hasn't quit already.

What WOULD make people quit is if China implemented what Richard Garfield (creator of Magic) suggested: all these F2P games have to reveal the number of dollars that it costs to buy EVERYTHING in the game. For a normal, non-F2P game this would be base game + all DLC, 100-200 dollars depending on game. For Hearthstone it would be the amount of money you need to get a gold set of every card. That's something like a million dollars.
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>>168238791
We know that on average you need around 250 packs to be able to complete a single non-classic non-golden set via pulls and crafting from the duplicates.

Going by the best offer, which is 60 euro for 60 packs, that's close to 250 euro per set, or a shitload money for everything.
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>When you realize after 2 hour of winstreak you were playing in Casual
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>>168238978
at least you earned 1/3rd of a pack
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>>168238964

Don't forget the sets that have been rotated out and have to be crafted from pure dust, at an effective 5x cost.
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un'goro pre-order
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>>168239095
I think it's a great idea to only allow new players into wild if they are millionaires. Non millionaire new players could accidentally buy rotated sets and be very upset.
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Oy vey
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>>168238164
>>168238372

For a lot of people I bet it would be enough to just skip one month of ranked. That way they miss the card back for that month, creating a permanent hole in their collection, and their OCD forces them to uninstall.

I only wish there was a way to donate my collection to some other player as I quit. Alas, no such thing exists in this game.
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>>168238791
It's honestly pretty funny. Kripp plays this game like 2 jobs, with the most profitable way possible, arena. Is the #1 arena player with the most arena wins and winrate average.

He spends like 2000 dollars per expansion and gets a shitton of promotional packs. He even got +40% on the MSOG packs due to the refund, so he got like 600 free packs. And he isn't even close to getting a full golden collection. With every expansion his goal is further away.
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>50 warlock cards quest
>queue casual
>netdecked dragon priest, aggro shaman, dragon priest, pirate warrior
>spam greetings and end turn without hitting face
>just play warlock cards only trade, never going face
>4/4 times they just play as usual and go straight for lethal, even bm'ing

are these people actually retarded

>>168239460
player playing on the EU server and representing the EU in a tournament gets an EU flag in the tournament. random guy cries antisemitism...? that post was really weird
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>>168239473
Virtually no one has a complete card back collection, you never see your own card back during a game and your opponent never notices your card back.
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Why is this 5 mana? Why summon a 1/1 and not a 2/2? Or do something relevant like 'When you attack with this weapon, give a Beast in your hand/in play +2/+2"?
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>>168239460
>tfw you don't get special flag treatment for your country
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>>168239460
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>>168239813

Or even, "After your hero attacks, give a minion Deathrattle: Summon a Piranha" and the fish can be a 2/2?

The Deathrattle animation could a splash (like sleep with the fishes) and a Piranha jumping up and the settling on the board ala Ragnaros.

Right now this weapon looks like such shit. I've never seen it played. Granted I've only seen like 4 Hunters on the ladder, but still.
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>>168239813
>Handbuffing
>Relevant
ayyyyyy lmao
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>>168239567

Really activates your braincells. If Kripp, who has been playing the game nonstop since the beta, burns more money than anyone should, and has every possible advantage, can't get a full golden collection, it basically means nobody can. It's impossible. You'd have to literally sell your house and buy HS packs with the money to get it.
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>>168239672
>Virtually no one has a complete card back collection

No, but almost everyone has a complete card back collection starting from the moth that they started playing.
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>>168239813
word they are fucking stupid
maybe at 4 it would see play
i think 2/3 for 3 would make it a really good card
its probably best to have good cards compete for space in a decklist
also like the buff idea, the warrior weapon brass knuckles has that
i feel like hunter can be really good with midrange stuff and now with the new handbuff stuff, thats definitely something that would make hunter pretty strong
id also like a sword of justice for hunter desu, thats such a cool card

>>168240184
when its strong it will probably feel super bullshit to play against, if there was some more ways to handbuff like getting more buffs done quickly and overall and then some stuff like loatheb that would protect your board temporarily against clears and removals, can also be in the form of "your minions are immune to spells next turn" basically like conceal granting stealth but only against spells and not against board trades. handbuff would be pretty strong no
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>>168240539

Handbuffing wouldn't need to be so gimped if the game had forced discard effects.
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>>168240292
Just drop a casual 5000$ like lifecoach so you can play your 3 decks all golden ;)
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>>168240176
ugh that sound like so much work

let's just use the flame animation template for the gold card
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why is no one talking about this little cutie
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>>168240681
id love to see some new draw mechanics introduced
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Where can I hire a cheap hitman? Ben Brode must work for blizzard no longer.
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MAKE REXXAR GREAT AGAIN
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>>168240760

considering how much work they put into animating golden adeventure cards that maybe 2 whales will bother crafting, I think they could spend a little more time to avoid re-using animations. hoping for too much though.

>>168240539
They'll probably make Hunter super ball bustingly OP next adventure
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every fucking deck in this game is so expensive

>want to play something paladin
>lol no lightlord no epic murlocs no tirion u cant
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>>168241039
>considering how much work they put into animating golden adeventure cards
You really think that? Look at this shit and then tell me again how much work that billion dollar company puts into their game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2VsBHObHd8
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>opened finja
>need to blow 800 on Warleaders before I can do anything remotely fun with him

Fucking kill me.
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>>168241140
Pirate warrior is pretty cheap and can work without patches.
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>>168241325
You should've crafted at least one warleader to get the free Old-Murkeye anyway, you fucked up.
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pavel vs lothar
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>>168240832
Because he's a mediocre player in a children's card game on top of all the viewbotting and his mod running his channel pretending to be massan while he's at the military training.
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>>168241258

Well shit, that looks awesome... and way better than HS's adobe after effects shit. Is this is based on the witcher?
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ice block nerf when
fucking cancer 0 interactivity card
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I'm the only one who still get the charge minion bug?
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>>168241501
normally i'd want pavel to win but now i know he's a cheater
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I've been trying to make a shitty handbuff deck work like all day

I don't expect to win with it but I can't even have fun

>pirate kills you before buffing anything
>reno just removes everything

Absolutely fucking lovely meta
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>>168241618

What, you don't like Ice Block into Reno or Brann+Kazakus to perfectly answer your late-game board?

Or Reno Mage with 2+ additional Ice Blocks generated from Cabalist Tome/Kabal Courier/Paveling Book that manages to kill you while you deal with them stalling every turn with each Ice Block?
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>>168241812
i dont, it should expire if not procced within a turn
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I think it's comical that Blizzard hasn't addressed anything happening in these past few days

Granted this isn't the official forums, but the community is in disarray.

>Lackluster response to the handling of Winter Championships
>P4wnyhoff incident
>Disconnecting/cheating incident
>Admins hosting matches from their living rooms
>Multiple high-profile streamers calling out design choices
>An unprecedented amount of negative discussion in threads and comments
>An inarguable dominance by aggro/Shaman
>Someone calling out Brode's comments to play control warrior (an insanely expensive and hardly viable deck)

I keep refreshing r/hearthcucks to see a Blizzard or Brode response on any single one of these issues, and I can't believe they're silent.

I'm sorry, but this is insane.
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>>168242050
>P4wnyhoff incident
what happened?
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>hey guys we are gonna communicate more
>talks a bunch unintelligible shit with zeriyahs strapon on their mouths
>shit hits the fan and everyone starts losing their mind
>total silence
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>Hearthstone Cucks General
I blame the EU.
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>>168241258
>>168241607
I am not a shill but do you really think Gwent would have those animations if it had a mobile client like hearthstone?
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>>168241607
Yup. Open beta will start soon.
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>>168242236
Blame for what? It's been cucks general for a week now, It's better this way.
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>>168238164
>tfw never play ranked so I'll never lose
>tfw brand new anyways
At least I still have the Whorestone mod
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>>168241258
too bad the game is boring as shit
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>>168242050

They're just arrogant. They look at their X million active accounts and Y million of revenue each month and think that everything's fine 'cause the money's still coming in. They don't know how fast these things can die when they turn sour. Magic is the biggest card game there is, and it almost died twice because of a single bad decision.
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>>168242375
I don't get the whole falseflagging thing.

Regardless, who wants to tourney next weekend? Post region. Have a sexy girl to get your attention.
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>>168242318
Shill here.
Why not? More powerful phones can enable the rotating, older phones can just show videos.
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IM NOT A KEK

REEEEEEEEEE
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>>168242318
I have no idea. I've seen my nephew play some games with really good looking animations on a cheapass tablet and I know shit like Infinity Blade looks gorgeous as mobile game so I'm sure Blizz could put a little more energy into animating their shit if they really wanted to.

Plus they could have an option for low-rez or disabling animations all-together on lower-end devices.

>>168242338
Cool, I'll have to check it out then.
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>>168242457
How so? Do you want more random effects so you get those epic trolden moments?
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>>168242908
>>168242721
I am not talking about the phones not being powerful enough, I am talking about the game not being +7GB in size.
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>1 off lethal
>top decks hellfire
classic pavel xD
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>>168243004

Oh. I don't know shit about that. HS is what, 2 or 3 gigs? I guess if they made it so you didn't have to download every language file they could allocate more space to animations? Who knows.
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>>168243020
If it was pavel it would have been
courier > Peddler > Soulfire
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>>168243004
There aren't a lot of cards and even fewer premiums right now.

And it's being developed by competent polish techno wizards that can figure out how to do non random hand buffs and multiple deck slots per faction.
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What should my first crafts be?
How do I pick a hero to main?
I've been reading some links in the OP and started crafting a few of the cards as mentioned in
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408
but should I be making class specific cards before I get all of these?
What should I dust and what should I keep?
Should I even bother saving for legendaries if I won't spend real money on packs?
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>>168243876
none, fuck off we're full
do yourself a favor and play a cardgame that isnt as shit, like poker
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>>168243876
Don't start. Get out now.

https://youtu.be/2g6flckl-SY?t=574
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>>168243876
make 2 accounts
use 1 for botting
play 1 yourself.
if your botting account doesnt get banned after few months, play with that.
otherwise just uninstall this game and dont even start.
mage has decent basic cards, start with that.
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>>168243876
>first crafts
Azure Drake. Look at what's popular and compare it to what you've opened

>How do I pick a hero to main?
Open packs. Hey you got Grommash, now you play Warrior.

>Should I even bother saving for legos if I won't spend real money on packs?
Now you're in a position where it's all up to your time you put into the game. Imo it's worth it in the long run to save up for legos like Ragnaros or Sylvanas.
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>>168244081
I already play poker in Puzzle Pirates and am successfully bad at it, so I need something else to also be bad at

>>168244128
too late, I'm jonesing for answers
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>>168243876

First thing you craft should be quit the game.

Seriously. Go play like Nioh or something.
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>>168242581
Andy if you ever host a tournament for the EU (garbage) side of /hsg/, you are dead to me.

(NA f2p btw)
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>>168244278
>trying to appeal to Ben Brode by saying you're f2p
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>>168243876

I'm gonna try to give serious answers, though I honestly, truly, deeply think Hearthstone is terrible right now and new F2P players should not even bother coming in. (Do yourself a favor and check out Eternal, Magic Duels, Shadowverse, Gwent, all of which are similar games and much more F2P friendly.)

As a new player you should first play through the tutorial bullshit and get what few measly free packs Blizzard has decided to give you and open them. These will inform what you CAN play. Then, whatever you opened, you should play Pirate Warrior because it's the only deck that makes sense right now and other than Patches, is relatively cheap to craft. Netdeck a list, craft what commons you need for it, you probably won't have dust for Patches which is a huge problem but even without it Pirate Warrior is kind of nuts. Don't craft ANYTHING that's not used in Pirate Warrior because you won't afford it.

Dust:
ALL golden cards that are not in Pirate Warrior
ALL epics and legendaries that are not in Pirate Warrior
Anything else that's not in Pirate Warrior
Save dust until you can craft a Patches.

After doing this, you will gradually start getting wins. You will also be a part of the cancer that's killing the game. Those come hand in hand. It is impossible to play a fun deck and do well, and it is double impossible to craft a fun deck that does well as a F2P player, and triply impossible if you're new on top of that.

Consider playing a lot of arena. If you're good at it, you will make a profit, and the environment will be less horrible than ranked, where you will do pirate mirrors all day everyday.

That is Hearthstone in 2017. That is what you signed up for. These are not jokes or memes, everything I said above is honest advice. Have fun.
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>>168245249
I think he would spit on you and laugh if you told him that in person.
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I just dusted a bunch of stuff to make a pirate rogue deck...

Am I the cancer now?
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>>168245519

At this point it's safe to say that if you play Hearthstone at all you're a part of the cancer.
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>>168245354
>Consider playing a lot of arena.
This is where you are just fucking with him. Definitely don't do that. I don't even know why they released the arena leaderboards, it's basically proven now that it's a bad idea to play arena for almost everyone.
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>>168244182
thanks.
I've got a couple epics like Hammer of Twilight for my Shaman, Sleep with the Fishes for my Warrior, and Southsea Captain as a neutral. I also have C'thun, 2 beckoners of evil and 1 disciple of c'thun which I try to combo with Youthful Brewmaster in my priest deck with two Hooded acolytes. Occasionally Greater Healing Potions come to my rescue but my entire priest deck is incredibly unreliable IMO.
I also have Grimestreet Pawnbroker (1 gold 1 reg) and Upgrade on my War, but I don't know if I should play a weapons Warrior or scrap them all because they're shit.
Sort of want to get Renounce Darkness on my warlock to add a little more fun and spontaneity to my games but it's probably a bad idea.
Thoughts? Also sorry if this is too blogposty
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>>168245354
aren't pirates getting nerfed soon?
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>>168245603
it's the least cancerous of the three though, right?
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>>168246086
Kragg and Buccaneer are rotated out in a few months. Should be enough of a nerf.
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>>168245898
Open more packs. Keep playing with what you have and see what can work. Sadly this isn't a meta where I can say "make Zoo" and you'll do decently.

Please mind when I say "Open more packs", I specifically mean Classic Packs. Stuff will be rotating out soon, and their power will increase come the next expansion. Things should be easier for you to get a grasp on things then.

Putting together a cheapo Midrange Shaman deck with cards like Totem Golem, Fire Elemental, Bloodlust, a few C'Thun cards (because why the hell not, it's your only wincon atm) and that Twilight Hammer should yield some mild success at the lower ranks, which will in turn become easier as the month progresses and the better players eventually find their way back to their home ranks of 10+.
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>>168246343
so >>168245354
wouldn't eally work out then, no?
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>>168246343
Buccaneer isn't rotating until 2018
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>>168246086

IIRC Brode said they'll do nothing until the next set launches, which means pirates will be insane for a good long while.
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>>168246475
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Do not craft ANYTHING. Blizzard is doing a balance patch at the end of February. While the main thing on the chopping block is Small Time Buccaneer, there could be others, and the future viability of pirates is unknown.

Just play casual. Do your daily quests (always reroll 40s, never do a 40 quest intentionally unless you've queued up 3 of them and have no choice). Buy classic packs with the gold you get.
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>>168245354

please dont recommend magic duels you casual retard they literally broke their own game a couple patches in and havent fixed it for over a year (yes im talking about hold priority)

Hex is the best CCG/TCG simply because a)its not hearthstone b) its not some shit hearthstone ripoff thrown together in a different games universe/with a slight twist/ for weebos only

>pic related: its you and everyone who agrees with you
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>>168246608
How hard am I allowed to rage if Buccaneer is nerfed and I don't get full dust for my Patches?
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This stupid fucking game is rigged against me, it doesn't allow me to possibly win and I quit.
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>>168246583
Oh shit lol nevermind.
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>>168246980
But it's the Buccaneer that's OP.
Patches is very good but not OP.
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>>168246629
>please dont recommend magic duels you casual retard they literally broke their own game a couple patches in and havent fixed it for over a year (yes im talking about hold priority)

The priority bug was fixed ages ago. Duels is buggy in general, however it's IMO the straight up best F2P card game right now both in mechanics and F2P viability. I got a full collection of Duels cards in a matter of months while I haven't come even close to completing a single expansion in HS.

Hex is a bad game to get into if you want multiplayer because it's VERY F2P unfriendly for multiplayer. However, it has the best single player mode of all of these games so it's worth checking out for that. (It's kind of a pseudo-RPG thing where you travel around a map fighting gimmick special rules battles and gradually build up a PVE collection, pretty neat.)
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>>168245792
you fucking idiot an average arena reward is worth more than 150 gold. You need to average just bit over 2.7 wins to be even, and the average player gets 3 wins per run. It has negative rake.

Arena is the only way for a f2p player to get a collection, it's also an amazing way to learn about spotting your own and your opponent's win condition.

Play arena you poor bastards
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>>168247140
Exactly. The entire pirate package might be dead with a dead Buccaneer, so I would like my dust back for all of them please.
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rip my favorite brawl in forever
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>>168247289
>not going 3 losses in a row out the gate in arena
Where do you think you're posting?
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>>168246425

He was joking. Kraag isn't used in most lists and regular Buccaneer (not Small-Time Buccaneer) is only used in pirate Rogue. Neither of those affects Pirate Warrior. Warrior is safe unless Brode gives in and nerfs STB (which he's already said he doesn't want to do) or something weird happens in the next expansion that makes pirates no longer insane.

If you want to play it safe you can wait until the next set comes out and see how the meta develops, however you won't be winning many games before that.
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what is all 30 people in this thread talking about, did some actual news come out?
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>>168247468
No because there is no way to know.
Even without Bucanneer, Pirate Warrior is still really good.
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>>168247157

I can't find anything about them fixing the priority bug so I'm going to assume you don't even know what it is. Hex you wouldn't want to immediately jump into high level pvp if you're f2p because you probably suck ass at the game, but for $10 or less you can OWN (which means resell if you quit) your choice of a variety of decks that are the equivalent strength of pirate warrior (capable of top tier pvp).
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>>168247140
>Patches is very good but not OP.
>29 card deck
>early free charge token that can trade or go face
>not OP
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>>168248534
>I can't find anything about them fixing the priority bug so I'm going to assume you don't even know what it is.

So you don't even have the game installed but instead of checking, you're just going to assume a bug more than year old was never fixed. I know what the bug is. It was fixed in like a month. Asshole.
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>>168247473
that brawl was alright

i played n'zoth priest and slapped good minions on curve whilst letting my hand fill up with control tools. netted a fair few ez wins down to just resource management
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Take the Wild pill
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>>168248337

There's nothing in this game that's permanently safe, with Blizzard's genius "each class gets to take a turn being OP" balancing strategy. Just craft whatever is the current OP thing.
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>>168249112
but i dont have this card
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>>168249182
nvm then
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>>168248918
Actually I had a full collection being f2p for the first 3 sets but I quit because the priority bug and phase skipping was complete game breaking trash. People are still complaining about it as of the most recent update (about a month ago) which means it was never fixed. Most likely everyone who isn't a complete shitter (like you) already quit the game a year ago, so you don't see anyone discussing the issue, because the only people left playing are idiots who enjoy playing "Magic" in an environment that automatically skips phases and response windows for you. Its like someone who only plays pirate warrior commenting on enjoying the current hearthstone meta
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>>168249182
you don't need it
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>>168248684
29 card deck is a very minor advantage in an aggro deck and the fact that it's a free minion is the point, otherwise you just play Boar. That's why it's a legendary.

That's like saying Tirion is OP because it's a 6/6 Taunt with Divine Shield, that gives a 5/3 weapon when it dies and has synergy with N'Zoth.
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>>168249331
well then why would i bother playing wild when all of my cards are standard
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>>168249319

Dude, what the fuck is wrong with you? Just fucking reinstall the game and play one (1) match. You will instantly see that you're full of shit. The bug you're bitching about was fixed ALMOST A YEAR AGO. It's not there anymore. It hasn't been there for ages. You can literally check it in like five minutes instead of quoting old forum posts as "evidence".

For those of you who don't know what this asshole is talking about, Duels introduced a poorly designed feature (not a bug since it was intentional, but people call it a bug since it was incredibly annoying) where if the game thought you had no sorcery-speed cards left to play, it skipped automatically to the next phase of the turn. This was an attempt to speed up the game, but it caused all sorts of problems, people complained about it and it was reversed. It was fixed within like a fucking month. This fucking douche is complaining about it a year later and thinks forum posts are proof of something when anyone can play one match and instantly see it doesn't do that anymore.
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>>168249112
Nah, I love that I can just dust outdated cards now.

I could see Wild being cool in like 5 years where there's a ton of cards maybe.
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>>168239813
It's INSANE with Starwing Buzzard.
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>>168250365
you won't have any card because you dusted them retard
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>>168250465
I'll be a billionaire by then and can just buy them back
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>>168250676
reynad?
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listen carefully, what i'm about to say is very very important
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>>168249490
are you retarded?
Tirion IS op
and if the meta slowed down enough and paladins got to play again we would see people complain about tirion again
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>>168250459
Starwing Buzzard sounds way cooler than Starving Buzzard
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2g55SCeLNY
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>>168247289
>2.7 wins
This is just fucking bullshit. You need 3 wins to have a CHANCE to break even if you don't get fucked over with common card rewards, which have fucking high odds of appearing.
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>>168250109

really cause ive been checking reddit, steam, NGA and can't find anything except people complaining about priority not working in posts less than a month old so...
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cards that desperately need a nerf:
ice block
stb
gadgetzan auctioneer
aya
white eyes
jade idol
fandral
rag
kazakus
leeroy
spirit claws
tunnel trogg
drakonid operative
sap
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>>168251109
Listen very carefully, I shall say this only once.
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>>168246583
why don't people run this thing, it's essentially an STB with 1 less health, and with STB it's even sillier
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>>168251615
anecdotal evidence from your 15 lifetime runs surely trumps statistics.

just admit you get 1.5 wins on average
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>>168251772

Look. Faggot. I dug this up just for you, special one-time favor. Patch notes for Eldritch Moon.

http://magicduels.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Duels:_Eldritch_Moon

The thing you're bitching about is item number four.
>Fixed Issues
>4. Fixed issue with priority not being held when the only cards and abilities a player can play are instant-speed.

That's from 18th of June, last year. Eight months ago. Happy now?
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>>168251162
Tirion isn't OP, it's a very good legendary.
Brann is an OP legendary.
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>>168252272
How is it essentially a STB?
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>>168252508

Is Kripp the biggest HS streamer?

If not, who is?
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>>168252074
kill yourself
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>>168252332

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicduels/comments/5p05q6/the_lack_of_priority_stops_is_a_real_problem_with/

>24 days ago
>not fixed

Oh look the cuck who unironically recommends new players to play pirate warrior also doesn't understand how to play Magic.
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stop being burgle bullies to each other
this is a friendly thread
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Why do standard players hate life and be depressed?
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>>168252371

There's nothing OP about Brann. All he does is inject like five micrograms of thought into this game's deckbuilding process, so that people have to slightly consider synergies and combos instead of just putting in generically effective minions with no concern for how they play together.
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>>168252783
what did I miss?
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>>168253043
I don't know m8 all of shamans minions are highly synergistic and that's a problem
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>>168252834

That's not the same thing AT ALL you fucking retard. How about you fucking read the posts you try to use as evidence you stupid fat fuck. He's talking about adding a priority stop to the end of an opponent's turn. That has NOTHING to do with the bug you were bitching about.

Or just play one match in the game and you'll instantly fucking shut up 'cause it takes one god damn game to instantly see you're full of shit. What the fuck are you doing, acting like REDDIT POSTS somehow are higher evidence than the actual fucking easily verifiable facts from the game itself?
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Could the Magic autists please take this outside?
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>>168252974
chemical malfunctios in the brain, for which there is no cure and hardly treated on antidepressants and/or stimulants for those who are "treatment resistant / Major(ly)" depressed.

t. depressed standard player
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>>168253453
Why are hearthstone players in a constant state of complaining, rage, and dissatisfaction with the state of the game they play every day of their life, but call magic players autists?
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>>168240539
>i think 2/3 for 3 would make it a really good card
I think piranhas it summons make it cost 2 mana more.

And 1/1s are kind of useless on turns 5-8.
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>>168253453

I'm done with this fucking retard anyway, all the facts are in my corner. I've shown the patch notes and anyone can play the game and verify them. All he has is forum posts that don't even talk about what he thinks they're talking about. I'm done.
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>>168253690
wow it only took you 10 posts and you got upset.

don't ever spend more than 1 post on an idiot ever again senpai
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>>168251162
>we would see people complain about tirion again
When did anyone ever complain about Tirion? Even in the secret paladin days, it was le dr. 6 and dr. 7 that buttfucked people.

>>168252371
Brann himself is not OP, but he unironically limits design space with more and more retarded battlecries like Kazakus.
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anyone else trying out hots?
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>>168242581
Andy, I'd love a tourney. On NA, of course. The only real server.
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>>168252508
>thought my friend was only on a minor part of the team
>his name is on this card
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>play cthun warrior at low rank
>someone just turn 1 leaves
>play evolve shaman at low rank
>someone just turn 1 leave

this is so sad, the fear of pirates is so high people would rather just concede before even seeing a single pirate lmao
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>>168255042
your friend isnt zeriyah
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>>168255042
even if this is fake keep posting man. we need all the talking points we can get
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How good is a 76.5 arena tier score?
Currently sitting at 4-0
feels good
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good thing they nerf'd pyroblast.
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>>168255232
If I was dumb and naive I would just have him tweet something to confirm it but I really don't want him to get doxxed or something. I post pics of his desk he sent me instead.

willing to ask him any legit questions atm
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>found a Jah in The Pit
now THIS is some fun rng
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>>168255208
No but he sits near her. The desk in the back is for a community team person
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>>168255607
ask him about the 15 classic cards getting sent to wild
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>>168255983
ask him if zeriyah is a slacker
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he played dopplegangster+evolve and I devolved one of them back into a dopplegangster. lel.
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>>168256268
we already know she is
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>>168252561
>Is Kripp the biggest HS streamer?
By far. He's one of the biggest streamers period, only a couple of League guys are bigger.
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>>168256284
pretty funny
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>>168253628
Why is the sky blue, why are people on /vg/ autistic, why is /v/ retarded and why is /pol/ gay...
Who knows, just some things that are true but we don't know why.
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a a a a a a
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>>168254971
I'll ask again tomorrow for the EU dudes, because I got yelled at last time for not posting at "prime EU hours".

Honestly I think it's just klandri false flagging trying to keep his title as the EU /hsg/ champ.
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>>168256284
Genuinely a funny moment.
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>>168256807
>Why is the sky blue
the sky is actually purple but our eyes cant properly see various red-purple colors light spectrum(like infrared). look it up
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>>168257350
colors ON the light spectrum*
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>decide to play wild
>make greedy reno-inspire-n'zoth deck
>6-0
>having fun
Haven't faced a single netdeck/tryhard yet, rank 16.
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>>168256130
>ask him about the 15 classic cards getting sent to wild

He answered like this wasn't ever a thing, but then backpedaled and said he didn't want to spoil anything about it. Asking about this more now.

He also said there will be a lot happening at the same time, i.e standard rotation, nerfs, etc.

>>168256268
The whole community team accomplishes their job by being on twitter all day, you tell me

>>168257087
I will be in the NA tournament. But you won't know who I am :^)
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>>168257527
ask him if anyone has ever said anything about moving wild cards back into the shop

surely someone working there must realize that taking away old adventures and card packs just hurts players
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>>168257451
>ON the spectrum
Just like you, anon :)
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>tfw rank 15 with a budget evolve lol
FEELS GOOD MAN
2 card hype
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>>168257527
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How come here is so much to learn from the biggest card game designed in the history of card games, but Team 5 can't learn a single thing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHHg99hwQGY
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kek
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>>168259514
WHAT THE FUCK
IS REYNAD STREAMING RIGHT NOW?
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>>168259514
Kibler's actually climbing with that handbuff pally, holy shit
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>>168259359
No pressure.
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how do you remove the audio from a video?
i cant post webms because they have sound
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>>168259514
???
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>>168257692
>Doing stuff with wild cards

He wouldn't answer this, but said a LOT of changes are coming at once. So things that are in addition to the already announced changes
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>>168259785
bet its gonna be super underwhelming
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>>168259678
This might come like a surprise to you, but Kibler is a damn good player and can climb with sub optimal decks.
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>>168259785
sounds like the game is fucked
he said changes, instead of additions
which means we are losing shit not gaining

tell him i said that
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>>168259973
kibler is over rated, there is a reason he doesnt play in tournaments anymore and only casts
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>>168260250
He still plays Magic tournaments.
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>>168259514
If I was going to watch a serious HS streamer I'd watch Kibler

Sometimes I have Hafu on though because she has a cute as fuck voice and it makes for nice aural wallpaper
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>>168260250
That reason is the same reason as most full time streamers;

They make more money by streaming than travelling for tournaments
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>>168259973
tipped & upvoted
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kibler is such a coke addict
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What are the chances of Ben understanding this?
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>>168261052
hearthstone is fun when you aren't being a netdecking faggot
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oh boy
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>>168259514

novelty of playing a dead class is attractive
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>>168261338
rip. Too bad he was gonna lose anyway.
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>>168261241
Really? Playing against nothing but Pirates and Reno is fun?

And thankfully, he also touches on that.
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>>168241957
I think they should make it a legendary spell. I can deal with the fact some classes get retardedly good cards but being able to run 2 ice blocks is a bit much.
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>>168261540
hafu and eloise get way more viewers than that
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>>168241258
You forgot the best fucking card in existence: premium Vilgeforz.
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>>168261756
What games actually do that? Even in really fun games the impractical stuff is usually more fun than the most dominant strategy.
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>>168259359
this is p. good
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>>168261891
Magic.

Yes, the impractical stuff is often more fun, but the important part is that the dominant strategies is also fun.

Currently in Hearthstone neither the dominant nor impractical stuff are fun because you're playing always the same games no matter what you play, when your opponent is Shaman 50% of the times.
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>>168261756
every netdecker is to blame, not just you
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>>168262106
idk i never found constructed mtg that fun or interesting
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>>168261540
I believe Toast is actually Canadian.

And yeah, his schtick is a little annoying, especially with how he panders to some of the bigger idiots in the community.
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>>168262169
No, netdecking wouldn't be a problem is the best decks were also enjoyable to play and there were multiple "best" decks.

>>168262229
Well, he also touches on that.
Not everything is fun for everyone and that's why it's important to give people a lot of choice, in terms of cards, style and even formats which they want to play.
>>
Challenge a Friend U.S.
DietDrBeta#1918
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>>168262658
Gottem.
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>>168261540
>depressed dropout playing so he can afford food
who
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>>168262462
Well it's easier to say it for MTG which has roughly 760 trillion cards and can reprint cards to keep them or bring them back into standard format.

I don't think MTG really hit it's stride until Tempest block or Urza's block

It might sound like I'm making excuses for HS which isn't my intention, I just don't think they're easily comparable

Also I only played MTG fairly casually in the mid 00's and a bit again with the online versions so I'm speaking a bit out of school anyway.
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>>168260396
>hafu

fuck yes. I can't believe you guys think she's ugly. Sure she doesn't look great in photos, but her antics/gestures/voice add so much

and she does combos like

>hit my face
>ohhhh fuck me
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>>168263187
dog, i think
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WHO'S IN CHARGE NOW?
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>>168263378
People don't think she's attractive? Or is it just 2/10 knees too sharp types?
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>>168263531
i want this in my deck :o
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QKrZh7R0ng
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I just played against some ridiculous Reno Rogue at rank 7. List was similar to pic related. Anyone have a definitive list?
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>>168263847
>rank 16

It's like pottery
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>>168263607
well, you're probably right
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>>168264274
Only Reno Rogue list I know of is Dane's Infinite Shadowcaster list.
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>>168264368
meant for
>>168264046
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>>168258228
Will there be any gimmicks for this tourney, or just the usual banned cards thing
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*ploont*
Shit.
*ploont*
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what should firebats next tournament be like?
i saw one where there were cards banned by players and then a bunch from community voting

probably that again + something else, any cool ideas?
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>>168264731
>5 mana deal 8 damage to face, sometimes

It's like a big version of crackle. great card my friend :^)
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>>168264731
does wrong target include enemies only?

>>168264874
non-meta decks only tourney
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>>168266053
No, it can hit anything.
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>>168242525
>Magic is the biggest card game there is, and it almost died twice because of a single bad decision.
Can you elaborate? I know nothing about the MTG scene and this interests me.
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WOAAAHHH LEGENDARY

That 8 health is gonna win me the game for sure
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>>168266135
then fun card but wouldn't see competitive play at that cost
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>>168259359
Post more these are fun to watch
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>>168266416
are you complaining?
>>
got the quest for friendly challenge, someone help me out
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>>168266881
Ok
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>>168266416

>not choosing rivendare for maximum haunted creeper value with redemption
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>>168266881
post tag and server
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>>168240292
IS THAT A CHALLENGE?
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>>168266416
rag can heal other minions and himself as well you retard. it's a very good card, even in arena.
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why does blizz continue to fund these collegiate tournaments when no one watches the hs or hots ones
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>>168267864
because it is a tax write off
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>>168241140
Jade Golem only needs one non Adventure legendary.
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>>168240292
Isn't there a Russian who posted on Reddit who invested tens of thousands of dollar into the game and was really close to having a all golden collection?
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First reply to this post gets it. On NA. It will be a Wild game and more than a little random.
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>>168268742
Don't give it to hsg
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>>168252291
Telling people to play arena for filling their collection is an awful idea. The reality is that the average win rate for MOST people (especially new players) is going to be that low. If you've ever been to high ranks in arena, you know that it has little to do with skill and more to do with deck quality (aka rng). Even Kripp, whos literal job is arena, often gets only 5 or 6 wins. In order to actually PROFIT (remember, you don't want to just break even) you need a minimum of 5 wins. Thats to see just slight profit. To guarantee your full gold back, you need 7 wins. Think of how many new players are getting 5 wins, let alone 7.
If you enjoy arena, fine. But if you just want to play it to build up your collection, your in for a rude awakening.
This also ignores the fact you are limited to the most recent expansion for your guaranteed pack.

They just need to give more free packs from the fucking start. As it stands, the kikery and shit meta make this a garbage game to get into.
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>>168268742
I'm a little mentally retarded.


>>168268841
I've got to, or we'll all quit.
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>>168268742
>First reply to this post gets it.

is 'it' death?

will you kill me and end my suffering for free?
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>>168268917
Engio#11649
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>>168269038
>>168269038

sent add me
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>noodlelady
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>Face 50 aggro shamans in a row
>swap to heavy anti-aggro deck
>fucking renoniggers out of nowhere
>have to deal with Bran + Kazakus again

So funny, thanks brode you clown
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>>168268871
Don't forget that arena takes a shit load of time. just getting your value back with 4 wins / 7 games played and drafting takes a good while. AND YOU DON'T GET GOLD PER 3 WINS. I kept track of the time spent and added value of arena in the past. Just grinding out low ranks with an aggro deck nets you more gold earned than arena per time spent
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>>168269329
To give an indication. Last December between ranks 20 and 7 I had something like an 75% win rate with an average game length of 4 minutes. I kept hitting 100g earned daily and consistently in no time.
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>>168269316

There really is no middleground at the moment, I can't believe the amount of greedy control decks teched for control matchups I've faced lately, if not that it's slightly slower aggro teched to beat other aggro
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>>168269761
my bot use to grind out 30 wins in 3-5 hours tops
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>>168269316
>pick fedora warrior for a quest
>shamans everywhere
>no renolocks or priest niggers
>go 7-0, last win is vs. some freeze mage out of nowhere
JUST PLAY CONTROL WARRIOR
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Post a card.
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>>168269915
>Renomage
>Renomage
>Jade Druid
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>>168271736

>tfw you get lethal with this by playing leeroy
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>>168271736
ok
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>>168271736
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>Team 5's valentine card to Reynad

Wtf i love team5 now
That was fucking hilarious
>>
What happened to that paladin trying to finish the 40g quest?
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>>168272684
what was it?
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>>168272801
Poor anon. I'm curious as well.
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>>168272889
Some dank shots.
110% better if you watch it on stream.

It just happened like 5 minutes ago shouldnt be hard to find in his vods right now
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>>168273051
>shouldnt be hard to find in his vods right now
I have no idea how twitch work but I'll try. Usually stick to music while playing.
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>>168272801

>local man found dead
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>>168273162
Go to his channel, click the "videos" tab, then pick today's vod.
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>>168264697
Right now just banned cards. Any ideas for gimmicks? Can't think of much other than something like Challengestone.
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>>168273235
got it, thanks
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Post your face when aggro cancer is once again the t0 archetype after the April release.
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>>168255042
We all know it's Kyle.
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>>168255208

>Magic spokesman has 64000 posts in 4 years on his tumblr, out of which 60000 are answers to questions from fans of the game
>has a game design blog where he writes 16 long blog posts per year about designing Magic, problems they face and mistakes they have made

>zeriyah who is the community manager has her official twitter blocked so that no one who isn't officially approved can't see her posts

Really makes electrons flow through your neurons.
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>>168274506
But someone might say something rude?!
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>>168274023

>it's a midrange meta episode
>>
I've been playing for the few days, I'm really enjoying Paladin.

Why can't I play Paladin in Standard at all? The game doesn't even give me the option to make a Standard deck for that class.
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>>168274023
Aggro gets shit on by Fibonacci Warrior lad
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>>168275346
No, it's fucking not.
Aggro gets a decent chance winning against every deck, meanwhile every other decks have some seriously hard matchups. Fibonacci warrior is a meme to piss off aggrotards, while aggro shaman can compete on ladder with everything it got matched against.
That's why aggro is so strong right now: not because of overpowered early drops- those existed before, but because every deck that is not aggro gets forced 50% winrate by fucking direct counter.
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>>168274023
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>>168275243
anyfin is not even bad in standard
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>>168275243
I'm pretty bad but N'zoth pally got me to rank 10 easily
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>play reno mage
>1st game Renolock
>2nd gameDragonpriest
>3rd game Jade Druid
So this game is rigged right?
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>>168271928
>ftw I'm the jade druid
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>tired of coinflip aggro mirrors
>playing control warrior
>2 priests, 1 jade druid, 1 jade shaman

and matchmaking isn't rigged, sure xD
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Is Tirion Fordring worth 400 dust?
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>>168277585

I wouldn't dust it, it's still one of the best cards in game even if pally isn't in a good spot
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>>168277585
If Pally ever comes back, Tirion will probably be important for him.
Unless you hate paladin, then go on
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I have two meta complete decks. Miracle rogue and pirate warrior. Miracle rogue is fun in theory, but it gets regularly shit on because it's so draw dependent. Pirate warrior is way more consistent, has a higher win rate and makes climbing ranked much faster but it's completely brain dead. And climbing playing ranked doesn't make any sense anyway because the rewards are so ridiculously bad. Nothing is fun anymore. And the developers aren't doing anything either. It's going to be like this forever. Fuck this game.
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>>168277647
>>168277741
I guess I misspoke. I was wondering if it was worth the 400 dust to craft one. I guess that answers my question.
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I'm playing in the Tespa collegiate tournament, which uses self ban conquest format aka: only slightly better than ladder: the format. Just steamrolled the opposing team 3-0 in a Bo5 match playing Renolock, Aggro Shaman, and Reno Freeze Mage, and 2 of these were control mirrors. Say what you will about how cancer aggro is (because it is, when you can have turn 4 lethal anyways), but control mirrors are some of the most fun and skill testing matchups in this game.
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>Reno bottom 12
>alex bottom 12
>mistress bottom 12
>vendor bottom 12
>ice block bottom 12
>kazakus bottom 12
Impressive
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IM COMING MOTHER FUCKERS

I HOPE YOU DIDNT FORGET ABOUT DADDY REXXAR

COMING ATCHA AT AN UN'GORO TAR PIT NEAR YOU
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>>168277810
People that shit on control decks and control mirrors are just poorfags that can only afford aggro

t. poorfag that could at one point only afford aggro
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>>168277936
It's a dino party with a BITE of beast!
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>>168278045
>t. poorfag that could at one point only afford aggro
we were all there once, unless you're some sort of retard that drops $200 on a game you just started playing. I was lucky personally because I started when 2 of the best decks were face/midrange/hybrid hunter and patron warrior, both of which were very cheap provided you bought Naxx and the first 1-2 wings of BRM.
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>>168278045
>t. poorfag that could at one point only afford aggro
i member that day
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Wow I literally stopped playing I think this might be it i'm finally free of the game it's not fun anymore.
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>bored with pirate/reno/jade Rock Paper Scissors
>craft belcher and death lord for a kooky Reno N'Zoth burgle Rogue
>click Wild
>Rank 25
>here we go!
>queue into aggro pirates and shamans with legend card backs

I see the same shit in Standard, Casual and Wild. Even Tavern Brawl if it's one of those 30 card build-a-deck brawls. What the fuck happened to this game? WHERE IS THE FUN NONSERIOUS MODE outside of challenging friends?
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>people still watch kripp
>there's tons of drama over a fucking card game
>>>>competitive hearthstone

/hsg/?
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seriously though. im up against another priest. i just want free wins against aggro
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>>168279076
Probably worth a shot to join the tourney and mess about with meme deck
>>168242581
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>>168279194

that sounds like 2014 hs
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So, I don't get it
Is Paladin bad, or is it just not better than what's currently in the meta? Paladin doesn't seem bad, his class cards are all pretty good. What am I missing?
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>>168279240
I feel you, champ.
fucking priests
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>>168277810

>skill testing
>Reno lock/Mage
>match is basically "play premium removal bingo" and hope your Brann Kazakus generated the right potions, kabal courier generated the best removal, dirty rat doesn't snag your Reno - and as Mage, that Cabalist tome generates another Polymorph/Blizzard/Ice Block and Paveling Book generates a third Ice Block or a second Flamestrike

I love Control too but this flavor of Control is just as cancerous as Aggro in its own way.
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>>168279651
paladin doesnt have justice trogg or light golem and lightborn facefull
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>>168279651
The problem is you have to put 30 cards in a deck and right now every single card in shamans deck can win the game on its own, 'pretty good' doesn't cut it
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>>168279651
le epic equality consecration and humility kodo are not very efficient control tools in today pick a minion and remove it meta.
tokens are useless
he lacks tools to push 60 face damage turn 8
all his cards are either shit, too slow or obsolete
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>>168279651

midrange shaman is better than the traditionally strong midrange pally

anyfinn dies before combo

control can't beat jade, can't outvalue reno and doesn't have the early tools to survive aggro
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>no tournaments with card bans like Batstone

Literally the best tournament of the last 2 years and no one wants to further the concept. Fucking why?
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>>168279946

in 2014 blizz forbade card bans in any tournament with a HS license, that is probably still in effect
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>>168279743
>>168279837
>>168279863
>>168279868
So other than Shaman, Warrior and Mage, what other classes are viable? Is Priest viable?
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>>168280035

pally and hunter are the only dead classes, priest has reno/reno dragon and dragon
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>>168279946
Most tournaments give championship points or some shit so they can't ban oppressive shit.
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>>168280121
>priest has reno/reno dragon and dragon
This sentence made me chuckle then die a bit inside
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>>168280121
I'm sure I'm going to get shit on for this, but could you explain reno and dragon?
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>>168279651
Pally doesn't have a dead by turn 6 deck or access to Kazakus/Jades.

Goons buffs are slow to get started and you can't really put much pressure if you focus on the Pally Removal Suite of 2x Equality, 2x Consecration, 2x Wild Pyro and 2x Doomsayer. Your late game is trounced by Jade and Reno decks and your midrange is a joke compared to Shaman. You can try a hyper aggro buff deck with argents, small time recruiters and Leeroy but everyone else does aggro better. Your Triclass Lego is hot piss that does nothing useful the turn is played unless you hoarded 1 or 2 mana minions past turn 7.

Buffs reveal your hand state to your opponent. They know if you might have removal/spells or all minions and can play around that.

Buffs are kinda sick with Murlocs but again... Kazakus Polymorph just invalidates your win con (invalidates buff N'Zoth too) and aggro/midrange kills you before you can Finja summon on turn 6/7 or live to turn 10 for the first Anyfin.
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>>168279720
If we we're regular reno mage, you'd be right, but the freeze version of reno mage opts out of stuff like CRYSTALLLS and tome for a solia pyroblast combo as well as stuff like ice lance and thaurissan to makes sure you can burst them down after alextraza. You're right about the way most reno matchups play out though; the only reason we won with renolock vs reno mage is because we dirty ratted his kazakus which meant he couldn't hope to outvalue us.
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>>168280035
mage and warlock are strong control classes thanks to kabal bullshit
priest got compensated with bullshit cards recently because he was never really strong, so he is viable in dragon or control archetype
druid beats control decks with golems
rogue is ok right now because it's pretty fast class
shaman is master of all trades now
goons are complete failure and all it's class are suffering. Warrior is very versatile, so he is not tier one but every expansion he finds his niche.
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>>168280227

Dragons is just a deck that's made up of dragon cards, priest got the most powerful dragon cards over the past few releases and it's pretty strong while also being super easy to play

Reno is a deck plays 1 ofs, there's enough dragons in game that you can play 1 ofs along with other kabal cards from the latest release to have a strong deck

Reno is just the above deck but with more spells and control cards replacing dragons
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http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/2235-max-mccall-talks-about-charge-and-taunt-concerns

>Note that it’s specifically cheap charge minions that tend to cause problems, because they’re easier to combine with buffs and Faceless Manipulator. No one uses Reckless Rocketeer or King Krush for evil. We’re cautiously experimenting with more expensive charge minions that are harder to use in degenerate combos. The Hogriders in Mean Streets were the first example of this, and it’s reassuring to see that no one is using them to one-shot their opponents. We’ll do more charge stuff in the future as we figure out what’s safe.

Is Team 5 seriously insane? Their model was 2 cards (Rocketeer and Krush) that are unplayable trash, and they're happy that the Hogriders are also unplayable?
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>>168280586
So I'll look at using my dust to craft some dragons. Sounds easy enough to grasp, thanks anon, sucks to hear Paladin is so shit, Tokens is my favorite way to play Magic so I thought it would be a good fit.
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>>168280721
You might need some dollaroos for expansions to play dragon priest. It's not exactly a cheap deck.
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>>168280721

druid has strong token decks, most of the staple dragons are rotating out of standard in a month or two
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>>168278752
I've been playing since Naxx and only quit in January after being technically addicted for the last 9 months, had an intervention and took some time to think and distance myself
I'd like to go back, but I can't bring myself to it since it's the same unfun mess for over a year now. I'll probably stick to the tavern brawls until the new expansion rears it's ugly head, then i'll know whether to try or die
Even if you quit, we're here forever; you can't buy back lost time Anon
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>there aren't any fun decks to play because anything you want to meme with requires you to survive to turn 5
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>>168280785
What do you recommend I play for someone who probably won't be spending any real money on this?
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>>168280619

They forget that Leeroy and Korkron are both 4+ and fit into pure cancer.
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>>168280619
why make a charge minion when you can make irremovable aggro minions XDXDXDXDXDXDXD
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>>168280874
suffer for next 6 months.
I starded in june, while meta was much better and C'thun was good choice for cheap effective decks, I was able to compete on the ladder in summer with C'thun warrior, made miracle rogue in october and now, after 8 months I'm able to make one of those greedy control decks with shitton of legendaries. Once rotation hits I will be able to play every deck in standard I think. I also spend around 20$ on the game.
So, be patient or resign.
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>>168281326
I just lost to a fucking c'thun warrior, still viable apparently
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>>168280825
I just played three games in a row and conceded each one before turn 3 its painfully obvious at this point how i'm not enjoying the game
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>>168281326
I have C'Thun, I guess I got him when I installed the game a while back but never actually played. Can I build a good deck with that?
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>>168281549
ancient shieldbearers and emperors are good cards, anon.
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>>168259779
is this chick Kuzuha? is that her name?
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>>168281549

stop acting like bad decks have 1% win rates and maybe you'll realize why you lost
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>>168281574
>good
It won't be amazing, but making C'thun decks is easy, cheap and they have everything a constructed deck needs.
C'thun control priest might be your first deck to try if you still want to try priest. Other than priest only C'thun warriors, druid and rogues were ever good. Warrior is heavy on control and winning in fatigue while druid wins by playing big guys. Rogue is also good at making big C'thuns and they can play him twice/conceal him and threat lethal with him, while other classes just exploit class C'thun cards.
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anyone from eu wants to finish quests? i have one dominance that i need done and can help with whatever you have. If so add me VentoAureo#2740
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>>168282007
I forgot to mention you might not want to invest too much dust into these decks. Only C'thun warrior survived first expansion after old gods, and even if I'm still ocasionally seeing C'thun druids on ladder, it's not high rated deck
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Are Blackrock Depths cards in Standard or are they Wild only?
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>>168281740
I lost because its a bad matchup, havent seen one in ages
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>>168282703

standard, they rotate out in a month or two though
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>>168282850
That's sad. I like those monsters, gets my nostalgia goggles foggy.
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>>168281704
yup
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>warrior was part of the goons gang
completely forgot that läds.
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>>168283208
I wish they had done more with the cops like if they all were utility cards that could counter each of the gangs
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>>168283683
I literally expect nothing from team5 now.
This is the game design team that gave rogue a magma rager, acknowledged it, and thought it was a nice meme.
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>>168283925

in an alternate universe STB which has a class card power level would have been a rogue card
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>>168252074
>ice block
>white eyes
>aya
>rag
>kazakus

If you're losing to cards like these, you only have yourself to blame.
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>>168284461
team5 literally cares more about being cool and memey than balancing the game.
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>>168283208
>The card that is literally the face of the expansion is just a vanilla minion that nobody has ever played even for laughs
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>>168285204
You mean that goblin discover guy?
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>>168285204
>testing found many interesting and really hard to play decks with this particular card etc etc
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reminder that hancho is a 7 mana randomly buff a minion in hand with 5/5
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>>168285562
Who could forget the Don?
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>>168285562
and it's still a bad card
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>Opponent removes my OG Deathwing
>Drops Noz
>He has a panic attack and misses the rest of his turn
Thank you based clock dragon.
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>3(three) years in
>only 3 skins available for purcahse
>1 mage skin completely unavailable anymore
>1(and only) priest skin was only available to people in a few countries, completely skipping their biggest market which is china
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>>168286505
deathwing into noz is best meme i witnessed in this game
absolutely glorious
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>>168287207
>No tauren hero at all
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Is going second really as big of a deal that Kripp makes it out to be?

He complains about it EVERY FUCKING STREAM
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>>168287594
In constructed going second generally puts you on the back foot, but isn't terrible


However,oing second in Arena is a massive disadvantage, the winrate gap is something like 40% depending on the class, you literally pick classes based entirely on if they can afford to go second.
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>>168285420
No, this trash.
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>>168287594
it is even in constructed, but in arena you have limited answers and often no boardclear to play from behind
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>>168287492

>no undead warlock/rogue
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>>168287916
pretty cool art desu
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this retarded fucking game deserves to die and i fuckjing hope the fucking pizza retard gets fired, who the fuck thought playing agauinst 1 drops EVERY FUCKING GAME is fun? i hope he gets fucking cancer that piece of fucking rotten grabage
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>>168287594

good in control games that go to fatigue
bad in aggro
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>>168287594
>>168287782
To add on, this is why Mage was t0 in Arena for so long, and why Rogue is still t1 despite being t3 in constructed. Answers from hand are much more important when your opponent can lead with board advantage, something that's a lot less likely to occur in Arena.
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>>168287782
some decks like pirate warrior and miracle rogue benefit from the coin tho
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>>168288079
Hence, isn't terrible. The coin is really good in constructed when it can often be used to create an answer, but that's often not the case in Arena.
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>>168288062
>>168288053
>>168287940
>>168287782
yeah, i figured it kinda sucked. i've heard stats regarding matchups and first going second.
Didn't realize it was this pronounced though.
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>>168288382

only matchup i remember having coin made a huge difference was miracle rogue but that was along time ago
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you've never donated or subscribed to any (HS) twitch streamers, right /hsg/? hmmmm?
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>>168288580
i pity the fools that do
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>>168288079
>they literally printed magma rager and coin for rogue
>rogue still tier 1
>2 coins in every deck
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>was rank 2, 3 stars
>rng fiesta goes full retard
>rank 3, 0 stars

Played 94 games in the last 3 days with 54% win-rate, was hoping to reach legend but it's just so boring now. The frequency of shamans is just so demoralizing because half the games I feel totally helpless.

I'll try again later, gonna take a few days break from grinding, it's not very fun at the moment. have fun mateys.
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>>168288747
woops, here's my stats.
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>>168288739
Rogue being top tier is literally only because of pirates.
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>>168288739
if only they had kept Shadow Rager with the rest of the Rager cards in Nuetral and made STB a rogue card instead.
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>>168288972
I know.
How are they printing such a shitty cards for rogue, and she still finds a way to tier 1 with neutral minions?
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>>168288972
I'd like to think it takes a little more thought to play pirate rogue than warrior.

but maybe i'm just trying to justify dusting a shit ton of cards in order to get leeroy and shit
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>>168289053
because miracle has never not been viable
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>>168289146
why would you play Pirate rogue when Miracle rogue can exist with the pirate package?
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>no valentines promo
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>>168289435
I just started messing with the deck last night to be honest. I'll check out the miracle rogue type decks. thanks, anon
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>>168289627
>battlecry:draw your deck
well memed, my friend
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>>168288580
Donated to reckful so he could open a video on stream and trigger Jenna because she was next to him (cat gore)
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WATCH AND LEARN
BRUTALBRICKS #1105
MURICAS
pls send help
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>>168290076
why dont you ask your friend Drumpf for som help fatass
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>Malkorok will get buffed next standard rotation because no more Cursed Blade.

Nice.
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>>168290693

>turn 7
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if pirate anything is cancer, what's considered an "honest" deck?
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>>168291143
concede pally
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>>168291143
It's not so much cancer, it's the fact that none of the decks are really fun or interesting to play against.

Reno vs Pirates vs Jades all play out relatively the same since there's such little pool of cards to choose from. Mid-range Hunter is probably the most "honest" deck.
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>>168291143
control warrior
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>friend 80 gold challanges me
>plays aggro shaman
the only reason I didnt unfriend is because the fucker might give me more free gold
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I got a fat stack of 80g for the first taker. Get ready for some Dr. Pavel 'fun'.

AxolotlAndy#1798
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>>168292047
Claimed m80's
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Say your line hearthcuck
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>>168292272
Ben Brode is a good designer. He knows whats best for the game
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>>168292272
The hell is with this negative attitude?
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>>168292737
where have you been? havent seen you in weeks
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>>168292792
Delivering mad pizzas, going to school, designing Hearthstone, that sort of thing.
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>say your line shill, we'll even throw in some ribbit points as part of the deal
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>>168292850
>delivering pizzas

I hope you CC, friendo. it's a pretty dangerous job from what I understand
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>>168292970
probably kiblers alt account
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Will post this again tomorrow, but check out our MSoG predictions.
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>>168294068
mine was patches and stb right at the top but i guess it doesnt matter better consult the rank 20 anons that sub to tempostorm
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>>168292970
>the most pressing concern is esports bullshit
HOW ABOUT THE FUCKAWFUL BALANCE WITH NO ANSWERS NOR CHANGES FROM BLIZZARD?
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>>168294261
Patches was the 14th highest-rated card on average.
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>>168294068

>/hsg/ went into streets thinking it'd be the dawn of the first control meta since season 1
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>blizz just hired a caster to be a game designer
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>>168294853
If STB is changed to a 1/1, would Pirates be kill? Would we finally have the Control Meta?
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>>168295089

no, midrange jade is still too much for reno decks
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>>168295169
Shaman* is too much for Reno decks

Pirates are a symptom of Reno, not the inverse
And Reno is the shittiest of the shit tier when it comes to control
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>>168295296

i'm fine with renolock, it's only reno mage that's annoying because of how they generate cards if they're teched for control matchups
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>>168295431
Nah Reno by definition is a lousy way of having a control deck

It's a control deck whose only tech card against aggro is Reno and that is wildly inconsistent
It's fucking stupid for a control deck to be wildly inconsistent
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>>168252074
>ice block
don't care either way
>stb
sure
>auctioneer
it's at a fine power level and is fun to play and not difficult to remove.
>aya
definitely doesn't need a nerf
>white eyes
definitely doesn't need a nerf
>jade idol
it'd be good if they made this so the shuffled cards can't shuffle again maybe. idk. don't like the mechanic as it is.
>fandral
definitely doesn't need a nerf
>rag
are you fucking kidding, no
>kazakus
needs a nerf but i'm not sure how.
>leeroy
no
>spirit claws
maybe 0 attack without spell power?
>trogg
fair but it's rotating out, who cares.
>drakonid op
yeah needs a small nerf but priest is already struggling so lol
>sap
definitely doesn't need a nerf
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>>168284514
Kazakus is broken as shit what are you on about
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>>168296481
i think most people who post on reddit and hsg is playing kazakus decks because it's the best archetype against the field if you don't want to play pirates. that's why they tend not to complain as much about it, when you're playing something broken it's easier to justify it.
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>just watched a fat chick beta orbit a male streamer

hearthstone attracts weirdos
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>>168294068
wow hsg is really smart!
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Honest question. Do you play your deck or does your deck play you? I mean you are going to lose nearly 50% of your games so your entire 'skill' is 5%?

10 times more wins come from your rng draws than your skill. How can you defend this?
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>>168297963
>How can you defend this?
its a casual mobile game and shouldn't be treated like a real competitive card game
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>>168274506

>MaRo
>spokesman
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>lock shits out a 16/9 with charge and clones it for game before turn 10

What rank do I have to reach for this meme to die?
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You all hate this game, but you still read about it, talk about it, do your daily quest threadmill like a good boy.

You know what that makes you? A bunch of cucks.
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>>168298118

>play mage
>never die to any combo again
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>>168298978
Thankfully not much longer

I'm about 80% certain ice block is getting either shit on or rotated
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>>168299041
ffs they arent going to do anything to classic cards
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>>168299041
I can't wait till the announcement so I can laugh at you
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>Team 5 sent out some Valentines Day cards to select members of the community. We've found some and have them available below.

YOU CANT DO USELESS SHIT EVEN IF IT DOESNT MATTER AND YOU ARE WORKING ON GOOD STUFF WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING BECAUSE IT LOOKS BAD
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>>168299538
that doesn't mean they shouldn't tho

iceblock is the only secret in the game that can't be played around unless you include a 100% dead card in your deck
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>played modified version of secret hunter
>haven't drawn barnes since I started playing this version of the deck ~10 games ago

at least im low enough rank that I keep winning anyway
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>>168299749
>what is eater of secrets
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>>168299943
>what is reading
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>>168300348
i stopped reading when you said you cant play around it, because that's wrong.
>b-but it dont want to put it in my deck
dont whine about ice block then
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>>168300423
>j-just run a shitty card on every single matchup in the event you run into a mage

Gee I wonder what class this poster plays
Mage in general has a 0 interactivity problem either way it's not just ice block, it's the class as a whole
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>>168300972
its also good against secret paladin and secret hunter :^))))))
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Will we ever see the end of shamanstone?
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>>168301269
at least tunnel trogg is rotating out soon, anon
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>>168300972
>Mage in general has a 0 interactivity problem either way it's not just ice block, it's the class as a whole
now you're just memeing
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>>168301387
I don't think he is completely right, but if you don't see anything wrong with 30 damage from hand in one turn or freezing your whole board 4 turns straight then I don't know if there is something that you can call unfun
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>>168301327
>soon

Also trogg hasn't been relevant lately but le 1mana 3/2
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>>168292970
>disconnects during a fucking tourney

Fucking cuckstone lol
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>mfw playing Hunter in Wild and every time I use Flare to cuck a Mysterious Challenger or Ice Block my opponent has a huge pause at the start of their turn, showing that they're looking through the battle log to see what card I played
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>>168301269

Well 1 year ago today people were crying about how Shaman was unplayable. So yeah we saw it a year ago.
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>>168301387
One of mage's staple decks since forever has been freeze, a deck that has more in common with a solitaire game than an actual TCG game played against another human being.

Mage by definition has pretty much all answers come from hand.

How do you interact with getting your face burned for 30 damage? How do you interact with having your shit frozen for 3 turns? How do you interact with around 6-8 cards randomly generated per game?

Mage is the beginner class so all it's cards are just deal x damage bullshit which is by definition not very interactive since you can't stop spells in this game.
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>>168301737
even fucking miracle rogue let's you kill him first if you can
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>>168301737
the thing is that freeze mage is no longer good, and it's not like it was unbeatable in the past. you guys are such complaining about a complete nonissue
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>>168301962
>dude got decent draw so I lose a star
>dude got shitty draw so I just get a star
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thijs is slaying gooks
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>>168301962
>>168301863
It's not about the deck being strong it's about its design being pure cancer.

And the current Reno mage which is a top 3 deck has a lot in common with Freeze in play style. You stall and instead of drawing, generate random cards until you can either generate enough value to outlast the other or get an Alex Solia Pyro combo from behind an iceblock.

There is almost nothing to play around because it's all random discovers or a 2 turn lethal. Freeze is dead but its play style lives on and its just an indicator of a bigger problem with the mage class which is that mage wants to win from hand because you can't stop something that wins from hand since you can't interact with it.
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>>168302265
I meant that Miracle rogue takes actual risks to combo your face, while exposing himself
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Anduin Wrynn - Can I be your Velen-tine?
Garrosh Hellscream - I WILL HUG YOU
Gul'dan - Your hand shall be mine!
Jaina Proudmoore - Nothing can tear us apart!
Malfurion Stormrage - I must profess my love!
Rexxar - Let's make this hit the mark.
Thrall - The chocolates guide me.
Uther Lightbringer - Justice demands a love potion!
Valeera Sanguinar - I will be your Valentine!
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>>168302393
autism

gul'dans one is cute though
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>>168302265
all baiting aside, i hear what you're saying but remedying the problem would pretty much mean scrapping the whole class. while they could add a "ward" mechanic (cant attack face with spells until minion is killed) i dont think anyone would play it since it would only be good in that one match up(like Eater of Secrets).

honestly though, i really dont see mage as that big of a deal despite it's advantages.
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>>168302393

valeera a cute
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>>168302265

reno and freeze aren't similar, ones a combo deck and the other is attrition through value generation
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>ooze
>cheap and good statted neutral that counters weapon classes

>???
>cheap and good statted neutral that counters secret classes
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>>168302781
4 mana 2/4 is not good in age of 477
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>>168302873

It is with hand buffs!
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Battlecry: Reduce the damage of your opponents next spell by 1.

and then another for 2 dmg
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>>168302926

>drops Malygos
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>>168302926
New keyword
Mana void +X: reduce the damage of all spells by X
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>>168302873
idk but thats what im saying where is it?
why not print magic ooze
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>>168302983
or
4 mana 3/2 remove all secrets, if there wasn't any draw a card
Something that could replace itself in case of being useless kinda like flare does
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>>168302781
Right now the only relevant secret in the game is ice block and if it pisses you off so, Eater of Secrets is good enough.

It will not be good enough obviously if secret hunter comes back where he already has a board, a full Christmas tree, and you're at 20 hp on turn 4.
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>>168303991
CURSE
OF
RAFAAM
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>>168304256
class card though, and it rotates out next set
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>When I win I say 'Well Played' as GG.

>When I lose and my opponent says it I get mad for BMing.
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Would you play it?
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>>168305242
Shittier ragnaros, even rag is too slow in the current meta.
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>>168266196
Homelands and maybe Kamigawa?
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>>168291143
Everything that has a winrate of less than 50%.
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>>168299041
Mage should have 50% mana on the turn that Ice Block activates, rounded down.

Maybe even draw 1 fatigue card on the start of the next turn.
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say something MEAN about this card
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>>168305438
In the off chance that your Rag gets pulled by Dirty Rat.... damn, that feels good
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>>168306609
It's exactly the kind of blatantly overpowered and uninteresting shit Blizzard would print for a weak class
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>>168302687
I think a minion with a very very very situational effect should have barely any downside. If Priest can get a 5 mana dragon with an insane ability with the stats of a purely vanilla, non tribe minion, I don't see why a minion that will almost never have the effect trigger should have severe downsides. Eater of secrets could have been a 4/4 with the battlecry of just destroying secrets. It would actually see play if mage or hunter get popular. But as it is, it's a completely dead card in every other matchup.
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YOU ASKED FOR THIS
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>>168307524
Crocolisk Infiltrator
5 mana 5/6 Beast
Battlecry: if you control a beast, look at the top 3 cards of your oppponent's deck. Draw one and discard the others.
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>>168307615
Holy shit, way to overpower DrOP.
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>>168307615
>RUDE
love it
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>>168307615
combofags btfo
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>>168307615
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>>168307856
wow that's really bad lol
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>>168308216
maybe if it's give health? like the talonpriest does
wonder how low you can go in mana cost for it before it becomes OP
it can be something that makes the board resilient to damage clears
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I want to try too
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>>168308404
>maybe if it's give health? like the talonpriest does
that would be good. while it wont single-handly make hunter good, it's a nice place to start
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>>168308702
3 mana 4/11
balanced as fuck
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whos that legendary
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>>168309019

Wait what? You mean 5 attack 11 health. I guess 3 mana is too little/early since you could drop the werewolf dude and give him another +2/+2 and taunt, lol.

Would giving him 0 base health and increasing the cost be better?

>>168309396
Sargent Sally... or Knuckles.
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>>168309396
Madam Cuckya
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>>168309396
i see only free epic
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>>168307856
Literal garbage. That card could restore them all to full and it would never see play given how it's on the class literally based around vomiting minions on the board and rapidly cycling them.
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>>168309396
Furrybait bear
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>>168309483
even team5 can do tribe synergy cards, I think it's time for hunter to finally get something that isn't beast
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>sick to fucking death of pirates in casual
>go taunt warrior to collect some tears
>suddenly T H R E E ramp druids running exclusively 7+ attack minions in a row

This game totally doesn't account what you run when matching you up
Nope
Not at all

The entire player base is just crazy
It just so happens that everyone runs into their counter decks when they swap but it's an entirely random thing

This isn't just worth the fucking effort
I'm just fucking done with this piece of shit game
No matter what you try to do team 5 has managed to successfully create the single most unfun game in existence. It is fucking impossible to enjoy your time playing this
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>>168310848
>team 5 has managed to successfully create the single most unfun game in existence
I dunno, at least you can concede from minute 1 instead of minute 20.
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I can confirm that if you attempt to play control warrior to counter the meta, you will face 100% Priests and any other super heavy anti-control decks.

Don't listen to Brodes lies, keep playing cancer warrior and shamans
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>>168311208

last time I tried I got a renomage, renolock and dragon druid in a row

didn't play afterwards for 2 days
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Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
I just threw a beer can on my wall because shaman rolled spell power totem 3 times in a row and I lost the game because of that
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>>168311756
Team 5 did not only think this card was fine but that it would make other classes stronger.
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Alright lads, 1 renomage, 2 renolocks and 3 priests. I'm fucking done if when I swap to another deck and get aggro.
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Do you enjoy twitch chat?
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Goys is there a way to use the latest amazon uk promotion to buy 2500 coins for 10£ if you are not a brit?
I tried with a VPN but it says "something went wrong"
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>>168312497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxxajLWwzqY
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How meme is this pull?
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>>168312641
free legendary and epic- the pull
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>>168312641
sick :o
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>>168312641

Woah 2050 dust
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>>168309396
yoggenfogger, finally
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>even amaz is attacking team 5 now

wew
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>>168312512
should be plenty of guides on it
dont know myself
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>>168312810
hes not hes a cuck
you tricked me again
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>>168312512
remember to change your address to a US one on your account
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>>168312904
i was the one who tricked you yesterday not this anon
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>>168312461
What rank?
I've climbed from 11 to 8 with fedora warrior since yesterday and I've gone against literally one renolock and one reno mage, the rest was shaman county and free wins since none were even playing a proper mid jade deck.

That is not to say matchmaking isn't rigged. I actually couldn't believe my luck.
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Can I get some advice on tweaking this deck? I need more card draw (and maybe a Jinyu?) but don't know what to replace. I really, really like Devolve + Elemental Destruction, Devolve + Lightning Storm and Brann + Dirty Rat + Hex/Devolve/Destruction but I could remove the package I guess.

My worst matchup is a perfectly curved (lol) Pirate Warrior if I don't draw Healing Wave and/or Lightning Storm I'm dead by turn 5/6 and Jade Druid if we play into the late game and he goes infinite golems. Last card is N'Zoth.
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>>168313389
Bouncing between rank 3 and 2 at the moment. It happens in waves, I either get all shaman for 10 games and then only reno or priest for the next.
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I am an incredibly casual player and I find Hunters to be the most annoying class to deal with.

Why is that?
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>>168312641

Genzo would be good in a face hunter
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>>168314246

Add pirates, spirit claws and maelstorm portal.

Remove 1 lightning strike, cairne, both devolves and 1 healing weave.

Then proceed to kill yourself for playing shaman.
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Are kripp and hafu the only big arena streamers? Seems like there is a big void to fill for that.
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>>168241480
>Not crafting 1 of each golden murloc so you could get a golden Murk-Eye AND 3200 dust the days before they changed the way to get Murk-Eye
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>>168314928
ratsmah?
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how likely is patches to get nerfed? I have two of these fuckers - should I wait before dusting one?
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>>168315287

Hang on to them for now but I think it will be STB that gets nerfed
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F L A V O R
L
A
V
O
R
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>>168315415

Hunter is saved
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JUST
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>>168314928
Well I guess if you could start streaming if you have more than 6 average wins.
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>>168294068
to be fair we should start mentioning that we have to grade them in how they will effect the current meta rather than their individual powerlevel if that's how we are going to asses the predictions.
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>>168296280
Gee I wonder which rogue class you play, is it rogue :^)))
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>>168315741

>Dies to Patches

Awesome
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>>168314656
you already answered that
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>>168316248

Isn't Shaman supposedly the strongest class right now?

How come I struggle against Hunters but not against stronger classes? Are there general tips for dealing with Hunters that I'm just not aware of?
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>>168316365
play shaman
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>>168316118
>patches is dead and never hit your face
excellent
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>>168316415

What if I despise Overload as a gameplay mechanic?
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Druids are a healing class.
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>>168316610
Wow this has to be one of the worst custom cards I've seen.
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>>168316556
you sound like a new player
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> it's 3 quests day again

I actually had some fun playing druid today.
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>>168316610
>have Momento in your starting hand
>can literally stall forever
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>>168316871
Good luck getting past turn 4. Oh wait, even if you got to turn 10, then what? you get to spend 10 mana to get your shitty opening hand again so you can play your low mana cards NEXT TURN.

Oh wait you mean to say you got high value cards in your opening hand? Yeah you're dead long before turn 10 because you lost the early game hard.
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>>168316679
how can you say this when I literally just posted this >>168315415
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>>168317352
I try not to click on custom cards, but fair enough.
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I wasn't even going to post this one but apparently people don't know what shit cards are.
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>>168317449
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>>168317043
I'd prefer his powerlevel risk of keeping cards over that six mana four four
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>>168316718

I've played very sporadically since the beta.

I still mostly only have classic cards. I really like the Old Gods cards I do have, though. The newer Gadgetzan cards seems really cheesy.
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>>168311756
Don't you see how this card helped other classes?
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>>168311756
Team 5 during their rigorous design, testing, approval and review process concluded that this card was so exceptionally weak that it would be the reason why Shaman would become weak during MSOG :)
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>You will never Force of Nature into Savage Roar
>You will never double Molten Giant and Argus
>You will never One Turn TKO your opponent through Patron Warrior

Hearthstone a shit.
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>>168318332
you will never enjoy hearthstone again
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>>168318445
I miss Patron Warrior

even if it was broken, it was fun as fuck to play, and actually required some semblance of skill
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>>168316806
>have play a friend quest
>replace it because none of my friends play anymore
dedgaem
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I'm going to be laughing my fucking ass off if the next meta is even worse than the current one, or even if it doesn't improve by a lot.
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>>168318565
What region are you on? I can help you out with friend quests if you give me the occasional 80g quest.
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>>168318749
Don't worry, Team 5 will sit down for at least one whole hour the night before its release to really think about the impact of the expansion on the meta game.
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>>168318749
It can't really get any worse without literally breaking the game.
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>>168319093
this is waht people always say

the game ALWAYS gets worse when new cards come out, without fail
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>>168319185
wotg made it better
>>168319093
simply removing reno can be all it takes to make mid shaman truly god mode
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>>168318991
another one night in development
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It's 1600 dust time again /hsg/

Convince me to craft Inkmaster Solia over Tinkmaster Overspark

Additional information: I'm pretty close to pity timer on my msog packs
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>>168318749
You werent here for Meme Mage, then
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Can anyone help me compile a list of all cancer decks from the history of hearthstone, including their timeframe?

I have a feeling at pretty much every given moment there has been some massive cancer plaguing constructed.

Leeroy miracle rogue, undertaker hunter, mech mage, face hunter, combo druid, tempo mage, secret paladin, midrange shaman, aggro shaman, pirate warrior.
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>>168319365
control warrior 2013-2016
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>Priest Reno Mirror
>Play Brann + Kazakus
>Nothing happens
>Forgot about excavated evil
>Still win

Skill game.
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>>168319301
>Still buying MSOG packs

You're doing it completely wrong.
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>>168319635
I'm twenty-something packs in, stockpiling the cards most likely to get nerfed, and the new expansion is going to have like 5 cards that are worth crafting. I'm doing it completely right.

Now, Inkmaster or Tinkmaster?
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>>168319329
I've been around for everything unfortunately. 3 years of hoping this game will get better. That's the only reason I keep doing my quests, so I don't have an insurmountable lack of good cards when the game finally becomes good.
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>>168319925
You don't craft before you stop buying packs of that set. Also Tinkmaster is garbage and Inkmaster wouldn't be a total waste.
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>>168319301
>>168319925

Inkmaster fot the 10 mana +10/+10 Rafaam spell + Argent Horserider meme
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>>168320272
>game lasting beyond turn 6 within the next 3 sets

lmaoing @ ur life
>>
>5 games
>No pirates

What the fuck is going on?
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>>168320412
You switched to an anti-aggro deck by any chance?
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I miss playing tempo mage where I could high roll aggro and play to fatigue against warrior
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>>168320574

No, I'm reno priest and had 3 mirror matches, a cucktrol paladin and a freeze mage.

I think I transitioned into the control meme time line.
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>>168320810
>rank 17 stories
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>>168320810
>priest player
lmao kys
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>>168320412
>no aggro
>put in cabalist tome and rag
>immediate face shaman of overpowered one drops
I fucking hate this game
>>
3 mana 4/6 taunt can't attack

playable?
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>>168320862

Let's assume that's true for the difference it makes.

Why would you be proud of smashing the same 6 decks into each other over and over? I would have quit if I saw that. As Krip said if he was ranked only he would have left by now.

At legend it's not all shaman you know? You get to relax and try comedy decks.
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>>168321373
goes well in my aggro deck
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>>168321373

Would go well with Ancient watcher and 4 mana 7/7 in my silence priest.
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>>168321468
It can't attack you autismo, that's the idea
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>>168321413
Sure, but rank 5-1 is the majority of regular competitive ladder and that's like 90% aggro/reno.
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>>168320862
ice rager POWER CREEP!
NERF REEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>168321607
>Stb, patches, and flametongue totem are safely sitting behind a 4/6 taunt.

Yeah, absolutely terrible it can't attack just like shieldbearer used to in zoo because it was terrible.
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>>168321637
From my experience, the decks are pretty much the same from ranks 15 to 1 in the middle of the month, it's just the players at rank 10 are worse or grinded less than those at 1.

Then again, I've been playing as rarely is possible the last two months just to complete the quests, so I only get a glimpse of rank 5 these day.
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>>168321678
based vegan cigan
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>>168314780
Are you being serious? So Patches, 2x STB, 1 Portal and 1 Spirit claws? Wouldn't I still need more card draw... or no?
>>
Thinking about becoming a shill
Does this amazon coin thing still work
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>>168322956
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>>168322956
if you're a brit yes.
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I kinda feel bad for the poor idiot
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>Lose because enemy Confessor Paletress gives King Krush first summon
Ebin
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So this just happened.
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the fucking client going to the disconnect screen after 5 minutes afk is so fucking annoying.

Both other CCG"s I play I can leave on the entire day and it instantly responds when I get back. But not fucking Hearthstone, if you let that disconnect you have a fucking frozen unresponsive client.
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>>168324760
uh dude back off they literally just ran out of coffee give them a break
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>>168324760
why would you have the game on when youre not playing? its confusing for new players man, this is the right way to do it
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r8
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>>168325332
Literally bait for SECRET AGENT
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>>168325332
imagine how cool fossilized dinosaur would be if it was a hunter card
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>>168325703
that's when you fill your deck with shitty 1 drops so SEKRET AGENT CUMMIN THRU gets shit options :^)

>>168325862
Fuck, man. Instead Rogue got gipped with Jade cards because they expect you to use Swarmer+Dino.

Just thinking about a N'Zoth deck with Highmanes and Fossilized Dinos (and Huhuran? I just remembered that card).. what the fuck is Team 5 smoking?
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>>168324509
>Blubber Baron
Memes aside, I ACTUALLY forgot this card existed

What other cards are like this
>1 mana hunter beast buff
>Discover a card with overload
>Piranha launcher
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>>168326417

I just unpacked a pirahna launcher and a golden finders keepers. Finders is pretty clutch when you're in topdeck mode (or want to buff a Trogg over 2 turns). Haven'y found a use for launcher besides potential dusting


btw to anyone out there: is it worth crafting a second sleep with the fishes? 5 mana flamestrike (ghoul+fishes) looks bretty gud
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>>168326816

yes
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>have Shaman/Mage quest
>don't feel like playing any of those two classes
>try finishing Paladin quest
>want to commit suicide after 2 games

God this game is awful. And then when I went to Shaman, someone started spectating me.
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>>168327197
just play vs a friend dumbass
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>>168327025
done

Hope I don't regret this! But with ghoul, revenge and whirlwind there's so many activators to clear aggro flood shit...

>>168327197
turn off spectate if random people watching makes you nervous. you can complete quests this week w/ friends so just ask someone or post your tag here if you need a buddy
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>>168327197
>And then when I went to Shaman, someone started spectating me.
Literally me
>play meme decks and experiment all day
>the moment I brake down and play shaman someone spectates me
I'm not a shitter I swear!
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>>168327361
it is definitely a solid card so you shouldn't regret it unless you quit playing warrior
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>>168310848
How can everyone run into counter deck you retard whos playing counter decks then?
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just bit my tongue while eating
hurts so bad
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THE NERFS ARE COMING
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>>168312512
Where can a fellow goy find this deal? I'm not seeing any news of it on Google.
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>no patches nerfs
tfw I wasted 1600 dust
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>>168310848
>make a random as fuck shaman deck for evolve
>run into weird shit who barely curve, no early game and seemingly no good removals
>cruised to rank 15 all of a sudden
wew felt pretty good desu :)
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Update 7.1 Ranked Play Changes – Floors

We’re continuously looking for ways to refine the Ranked Play experience. One thing we can do immediately to help the Ranked Play experience is to make the overall climb from rank to rank feel like more an accomplishment once you hit a certain milestone. In order to promote deck experimentation and reduce some of the feelings of ladder anxiety some players may face, we’re introducing additional Ranked Play floors.

Once a player hits Rank 15, 10, or 5, they will no longer be able to de-rank past that rank once it is achieved within a season, similar to the existing floors at Rank 20 and Legend. For example, when a player achieves Rank 15, regardless of how many losses a player accumulates within the season, that player will not de-rank back to 16. We hope this promotes additional deck experimentation between ranks, and that any losses that may occur feel less punishing.

Update 7.1 Balance Changes
With the upcoming update, we will be making balance changes to the following two cards: Small-Time Buccaneer and Spirit Claws.

Small-Time Buccaneer now has 1 Health (Down from 2)
The combination of Small Time Buccaneer and Patches the Pirate has been showing up too often in the meta. Weapon-utilizing classes have been heavily utilizing this combination of cards, especially Shaman, and we’d like to see more diversity in the meta overall. Small Time Buccaneer’s Health will be reduced to 1 to make it easier for additional classes to remove from the board.

Spirit Claws now costs 2 Mana (Up from 1)
Spirit Claws has been a notably powerful Shaman weapon. At one mana, Spirit Claws has been able to capitalize on cards such as Bloodmage Thalnos or the Shaman Hero power to provide extremely efficient minion removal on curve. Increasing its mana by one will slow down Spirit Claws’ ability to curve out as efficiently.
These changes will occur in an upcoming update near the end of February.
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>>168327945
based zeriyah
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>hey anon you know that thing that happens once you reach rank 20? yea so we added that every 5 ranks
>also to fix the entire meta we will take 1 health away from 1 card and add 1 mana cost to one other card
>happy gaming ! :D
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>>168327727

I finally crafted enough stuff to run both Control and N'Zoth, the latter being what I'm trying out now. I'll probably be playing Warrior in some form for a long time and you're right, it does seem to be a VERY solid card. I'm surprised I don't see it more (or at all.. actually never seen an opponent use it yet).

>>168327945
I guess now I can hit a Floor and pull out my meme decks without worrying about de-ranking and needing to rank back up. Idk it seem fair for casuals who don't only play tryhard tier S shit 24/7 but I'm sure people on Reddit who ladder 50 hours a week with Dragon Priest will be mad that more players clog up ranks 10-5 for 30 days..

..actually this seems good because you can feed on people who winstreaked to a floor rank but might not be that good.
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WOW LOOK AT THESE NERFS
OH WAIT ITS FUCKING NOTHING
GOOD JOB TARDS 5
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Is a better Shaman opening hand even possible?
First ranked game this month and this shit happens.
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>>168328404
>it's fucking nothing
laughing at you pleb, 2 mana on spirit claws is HUGE
>>
reading the changes hurts less than biting my tongue
>>
reading the """"""changes"""""" hurts more than biting my tongue
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>>168328404
>fuccaneer dies to hero powers and 1 damage aoe
>nothing
>claws mana cost is doubled
>nothing
plebeian
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>1 health STB
I dont know, really doesnt stop me from playing it lads.
>>
>>168328404

2 mana spirit claws rapes that card (thank god)

1 health buccaneer means the fucker dies to hero powers
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>>168328323
>zeriyah
>anything but a whore

this is the most work she has done in over a year
>>
wow great changes team 5!
really looking forward to that next expansion ;)
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>>168328707
I know right shamans def getting a powercreeped weapon and buccaneer
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>>168327945
>>168328143
Wait, that's fucking it?
Are you they retarded?
Why am I even asking this when I already know the answer.
>>
that nerf is the bare minimum to keep the game playable. maybe not even good enough
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>1 health STB
ITS FUCKING NOTHING, ONLY ONE CLASS CAN REMOVE IT WITHOUT FACE CHECK, ONLY 3 CLASSES CAN PING IT

>1 turn one buccaneer
>coin heropower and remove it
>aggro develops on empty board even further

Its shit
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So you still go back to rank 20 every season? Everyone will keep tryharding then.
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>>168328908

Not even touching Patches is a joke. And wow, the Shaman weapon costs a whole 2 mana now! That's going to destroy the whole deck!
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they cant keep getting away with it
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>>168328941
>Staying at rank 20
If you never get past 16, yeah
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>>168328941
If you're legend you get to rank 16.
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>>168327945
>ranks still reset each season
Start me at 10, fuck.
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>>168328941

Yeah of course you do, keeping everyone at the tiered ranks would make legend completely meaningless and they'd just create another higher tier to separate out players for things like HCT points.
>>
Who here hoping for more dragons next expansion when old ones rotate out.
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>>168328481
>>168328579
what did you mean by this
>>
these solve absolute jack shit

reno mage is now even fucking stronger when it's already top 3
midrange shaman still the best class by a long fucking margin

no changes to jade lightning
no kazakus nerf

just the absolute bare minimum about 2 cards that were so absolutely fucking gamebreaking it was ridiculous to not adress them, but everything else is still shit
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>>168328843
what do you want?
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>>168329020

Shaman can no longer play it on turn 1 and HP on turn 2 for a 3/3 weapon. They can now equip it at 2 and HP on 3 which is a completely shit play, or wait to turn 4 to equip and HP which is still pretty fucking bad.
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>>168329160
Kazakus is fine, it gets fucked by jade
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>>168329145
the first one was a mistake
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>>168328439
I take that back.
Just the game after.
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>>168329020
>Completely nuke warsong commander to destroy patron
>Wow blizzard wtf! Card is unplayable now!
>Slight tweak to STB and spirit claws to weaken shaman and pirates
>Wow blizzard wtf! Not enough nerf! Aggro shaman and pirate warrior will still dominate ladder!
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Have a spectate quest on EU.

Hustensaft#21472
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>>168329118
this is fucking bullshit. Main reason laddering is such a fucking chore is the because you have to start grinding again from the start. Its not even that you face easier opponents in the beginning, you still face the same people who u'd face in higher ranks since everybody has to start again.
No falling back from 15, 10 and 5 doesnt change shit if i'm trying to get as high as I can.
fuck this
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>>168328926
>1 health STB
>ITS FUCKING NOTHING

hearthtards are at it again LMAO. you complained about this card since day 1 till today. then when the nerf is announced you complain and show you're retarded and bad at the game
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THEY DON'T EVEN TEST ANYTHING?

Holy shit, what DO these guys do besides making 150 shitty cards (where only 20-20 are relevant) twice a year and balance changes that's basically watching angry streamer youtube videos and implementing the easiest idea?
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>>168329371
People are also complaining that literally nothing else was touched.
Dr. OP untouched, Talonpriest untouched, Jade Idol untouched. All extremely cancerous cards. Talonpriest kills arena and just makes it who has more of them. Secret Agent cumming in you was something only a literally retarded person would design and think is okay. Idol makes control unplayable.
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problem boys?
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>>168329678
woops forgot my pic to go with my salt overload.

he has no idea abou jade druid. JADE DRUID. nothing on Idol. jesus.
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>>168329428

>"No falling back from 15, 10 and 5 doesnt change shit if i'm trying to get as high as I can."

>Be rank 5 in current system
>Lose 10 games
>Win 10 games
>Still rank 5

>Be rank 5 in new system
>Lose 10 games
>Win 10 games
>Be at least rank 4, possibly 3 depending on when you lost the games
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>>168329371
>>168329679
People realise that nothing really changes in the fundamentals of the game and it will still remain as curvestone, just with slightly different/ less agreesive faces.
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>Come back to hearth stone
>Fuck this pirate shit I'm just gonna rebuild my reno mage
>Can barely get past rank 10
>One month later today
>Fuck it, craft patches
>Ben brode knocks at my door
>The private jet is waiting
>"Welcome to legendary"
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>>168329678
>Holy shit, what DO these guys do

According to her social media, Zeriyah still does lingerie pictures, travels to the tropic twice a year, does streams about food and gives advice on expensive clothes.
Quite the life.

This is like her first "real work", aside from banning people for posting about her nudes, this year.
>>
>>168329679
changing a lot of cards would mean massive changes in the meta.
changes itself are too confusing and dont feel fun to players who have invested time in this meta. the team has been working hard and everyone is already waiting me at a coffee break, but I can promise you that next expansion will rock your boat, just preorder it and have some fun.
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>>168329949
>, Zeriyah still does lingerie pictures
post them
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>>168329397
add me BestMageEu#2304
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>>168327976
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/coins/promo/claim?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00ESJDQ8M&claimCode=2500FOR10&promoId=62555522&ref=mas_uk_Soc_rd_710
>>
Am I the only one who likes the changes?

They barely changed anything, but that is for the better.
We'll get some changes for the next 2 weeks, and maybe some more changes afterwards.

You know, like patches in actual esports.
>>
>>168330114
how much do they pay you
>>
>>168330114
>We'll get some changes for the next 2 weeks, and maybe some more changes afterwards.

hahahahahaha
>>
let's be honest, what do these even adress

they kill pirate warrior which is fine i guess
they slightly nerf shaman, who doesn't give a fuck because midrange shaman still best deck in the game by a long fucking shot

these are basically the bare fucking minimum they could've done to keep the game playable and it took them MONTHS to do them. and this is to keep it playable, much less actually improve it
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>>168330114
>and maybe some more changes afterwards.
>>
>>168330114
>We'll get some changes for the next 2 weeks, and maybe some more changes afterwards.
>We'll get some changes for the next 2 weeks, and maybe some more changes afterwards.
>We'll get some changes for the next 2 weeks, and maybe some more changes afterwards.
>We'll get some changes for the next 2 weeks, and maybe some more changes afterwards.
>>
>>168329949

I'm kinda late on this (basing this on something I read here before) but isn't Zeriyah the chick who was a stripper/camwhore, wore a skimpy costume at a blizzcon then fucked a blizz staffer who got her a job w/ Team 5? I never see her posting on reddit or the forums.. is she a coder? Artist? Why doesn't leddit do a witch hunt if she never does any work?
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>>168329949
>le ebin "zeriah does no work" maymay

Do you retards realize she is the one who runs the official hearthstone twitter/facebook/social media? In addition to planning events and stuff?

Christ
>>
>>168329678
Silly Anon. You need weeks of meetings before you can send valentine cards to streamers.
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>Small-Time Buccaneer now has 1 Health (Down from 2)
>Spirit Claws now costs 2 Mana (Up from 1)
>
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Cuckler does it again. Why does anyone listen to this MTG wash-up
>>
>>168330243
now we get to go back to complaining about trogg golem opening they did nothing about
>>
>>168330114
>We'll get some changes for the next 2 weeks, and maybe some more changes afterwards
>and maybe some more changes afterwards
>and maybe some more changes afterwards
>and maybe some more changes afterwards


Is this your first blizzard patch? This is it, son.
>>
>>168330343
she is a community manager
her job description is to sit on twitter all day and make a few posts a year in the official forum.
her twitter is private because safe space and no bad words.
community
manager
>>
come play heroes of the storm
you will love it
>>
>>168330442
Nobody does his responses are real life shill parodies
>>
>>168330510
>>168330387
zeriyah does not run the official twitter account, it is all the lower CMs that do

blizzard even hired 2 new ones in the last 6 months because she doesnt do enough work
>>
>>168330114
afterwards = 6 months minimum
>>
>>168330451
dont worry golem will rotate out some day anyway so theres no point in changing that :^)
>>
>>168327945
Ranked changes are good, I'll give them that.

The balance changes are a joke, but then again, it's not like they can reverse the effects of fucking up the game for almost a year now without confusing new and returning players.
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>>168330343
>isn't Zeriyah the chick who was a stripper/camwhore, wore a skimpy costume at a blizzcon then fucked a blizz staffer who got her a job w/ Team 5?

She is a community manager that literally doesn't do anything else but banning people on Blizzard forums when they mention her nudes or start saying "mean" shit to Blizzard.

Some people even speculated that she got canned because she went like 6 months without posting anything, just banning here and there like a bot.

This is like her first post in months.
Literally anything else she does is not hs related.
>>
>>168330510
I was just about to say, her twitter is locked. So her job is to post on social media and engage with the community, putting a personal face to the game.. except the social media account is locked and she doesn't post on the forums.

>>168330621
wew

Someone find me a Blizz staff to fuck b/c I want a cushy fake-job like that.
>>
>>168330243
it solves nothing, STB is easier to kill and claws are delayed for a turn, but cancerous cards still exist and havent been adressed
>>
So this hurts pirate warrior more than it does shaman imo.

Spirit Claws being 2 mana isn't even a big deal, you can easily cut 1 of them and put rag back in the deck and go more midrangey since they also have Jade Claws and Mid-Jade shaman is the still incredibly strong.
>>
>>168330114
These are the last changes until the rotation.

En fucking joy
>>
>>168330442
I understand the man has no life skills and is 30+ years old but for fucks sake does he really need to be such an unapologetic shill?
>>
This change basically confirms the set roation is going to kill off every control and aggro archetype and we're going to be left with jade druid, shaman and miracle rogue forever. We could potentially see Zoo make a comeback as well.
>>
Hang on a fucking minute why does counter spell stop a spell from casting but potion of polymorph still lets the minion trigger its battlecry
>>
>>168330908
I always presumed their reluctance to fix glaring balance issues is in big part due to the spaghetti code and the multiplatform client making frequent updates a pain in the ass moreso than a deliberate "design philosophy".

But seeing as they take months to fix nothing but the few most obvious offenders that should not even be printed in the first place, I'm now convinced they are in fact retarded and it is the core of their design philosophy.
>>
>>168330856
I'm guessing dragon warrior with pirate package will see more play.
regular pirate warrior takes a bit of a hit, but you still have all your weapons and go face.
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So Buccaneer and Patches now get killed by:

>Mage, Druid and Rogue pings
>Arcane exploson
>Maelstrom portal
>Ravaging Ghoul
>Cruel Taskmaster
>Elven Archer and her Murloc clone
>Spirit Claws

Im probably forgetting some other ping cards.
Is that "good" enough to discorage you from using the pirate engine?
Is this good enough to kill pure pirate warrior?
>>
>>168331378
>Is this good enough to kill pure pirate warrior

Your first thing alone is enough
>>
>>168331056
Cocaine ain't free, my dude
>>
>>168331378
No, it merely provides a better chance vs. pirate shit for decks that were already decent in that matchup like fedora warrior or ronald mage.

Classes eliminated from the game because they can't deal with pirates like hunter or paladin still can't deal with it.
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Ez 300 dust
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>>168331543
it's still a better leeper gnome
>>
>>168331378
Small-Time Buccaneer should have been 1/2 and 2/2 with weapon. It's still too aggressive and now shit too.
>>
This is basically a gigantic buff to Reno mage which is already a top tier deck

Pretty shitty honestly, nerfing pirates without nerfing Kazakus doesn't make that much sense
>>
>>168331378
the deck that gains the most from these changes is mid jade shaman. you just skip the pirates and run trogg plus golem as early game. trogg now trades with STB and maelstrom portal kills every single pirate. and you crush all control decks by default.
>>
>>168331616
>not dusting them all
its going to be pointless now
>>
>>168331807
are you retarded?
>>
>>168331761
what even counters mid jade?
>>
>>168331713
Kazakus nerf will come in the form of Reno and Brann rotating.
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>>168331891
Freeze mage :^)
>>
>>168329949
Zeriyah isn't hot at a-
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>>168331854
>>168331807
>>168331616
They didn't even mentioned that said cards will provide full dust value.

Literally go and read the announcement, no mention about the dust at all.
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>>168332043
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>>168332046
you must be new.
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>>168331815
>>168331815
>>168331815
>>168331815

New thread
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>>168332046
I hope you're pretending.
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