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New>Old no matter how much screaming autist are gonna tell you

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
Yes

>Can I play the full game without paying for it?
Yes, Eve is F2P with some restrictions and you can earn enough money ingame to get a subscription.

>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy (embed)

Future:
>The Guardian's Gala 14-28 Feb
>Citadel Insurance! (Feb)

Past:
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)

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>amarr
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Is EVE just
>Ancaps IN SPAAAAAAAAAACE: The Game?
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kys op
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>>168232524
>hyper aggressive market
>no restrictions on where you can shoot other players
yeah
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Join Dronelands today! Comrade xXDEATHXx needs your rent payment.
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>>168232524
yea, except you can't die, which is the only way ancap kinda works.
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>>168232524
It's an excel simulator with a space ship skin
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Thank you Kevin.
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thanks for the free plex :^)
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Join horde
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60004549/
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>>168236515
>tfw no friends
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so I'll ask again:
are they really doing a victory skin for a shitty destroyer?
and did they announce anything good on the o7 show?
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>>168237039
How can Horde line members afford to PVP when they don't have SRP? Are they just buying PLEX? Do they rat for 6 hours to buy a single ship? Do people really spend their own money on doctrine fits?
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>>168238584

>tfw blue to horde
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That guy is either a memer or retarded
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59961222/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59929588/

>thousands of members
>nobody to tell how to fit ships
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>>168238584
Horde gives ships away
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>>168238584
do you really think your alliance taking most of your isk then giving some of it back to you when you die is better than them not doing that?
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>>168240695
Cheap frigs like everyone else. And if you try to rely on handouts only they tell you to make your own Isk.

>>168240879
Horde tax is 10%. There are many corps and alliances with comparable or even lower tax rates that have SRP. In some you even make a profit flying logi or dictors.

I just don't see how it's a good deal for their line members. They're mostly low SP players and won't have LVL5 alts or run reaction farms on the side.
I'm sure PH is a great if you're a turbojew running buyback programs and importing doctrine ships but what does a new player get out of it?
They have to sell PLEX or rat in a VNI to buy all these Scorps and Caracals.
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>>168242523
>but what does a new player get out of it?
Nothing, horde probably is just a way for PL to make isk and have pets.
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>>168242523
>Cheap frigs like everyone else. And if you try to rely on handouts only they tell you to make your own Isk.
They give out ferox's for their BC fleets
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>>168242523
> if you try to rely on handouts only they tell you to make your own Isk.
Well no kidding, even Horde doesn't want you to mooch off of them.
Hell, you can spend literally only an hour venture mining and get enough isk to pay for at least 5 cheap frigates.
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oneiros
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>>168245853
keep your weird fetishes to yourself
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>>168233210
>Mfw just joined a comfy dronelands corp
Feels gud
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>"exploration is good"
>jumped through 20+ null systems
>one combat site in every system, lucky if wormhole signature, nothing else
What am i missing?
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>>168249840
Luck
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>>168249840

I find it easier to go from highsec in k162s and go from there
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why is it too late to start playing eve
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Stratios or Proteus for WH pvp?
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>>168254187
All the memes have already been thought of.
There's just no point trying. Everything has lost its meaning.
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Pondering the ol' 'cide
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>>168254187
There are no real wars in EVE, it's all just a scam. Guilds are ran by a cabal of middle aged men who all know each other in real life. No one is trying to hurt their enemies. EVE conflicts are as meaningful as a round of Dota2.
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>>168255258
kinda like real life
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>>168255258

An illusion maybe but how is it a scam
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Gala when
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>>168249840
The nullsec corp gatecamp that blaps you.
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>>168238584
>be in horde, can fly doctrine scorpion
>never plan on doing so because that's like 5 hours of ratting
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>>168257196
In 12 hours and 20 minutes if they don't fuck up the patch.

They will.
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>>168257665
Is there any place to read up on what the changes are with the patch?
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>>168258321
community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/119.2-release-to-be-deployed-on-february-14-2017/
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>in renter alliance
>don't have to bother with wars
>if any neutrals/reds come to our system we're all competent enough to defend our space
>can leave at any time if SHTF
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>>168259906
Sounds boring desu
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>>168260137
>make shitloads of money
>hardly get bothered
>can go pvp whenever
we've got some guy who pulls in billions a day with a mining fleet
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>aquire high Jita standing trade alt with tycoon 4
>start trading with 5b
>only make a couple hundred million per month
>most of my profit comes from weekly price fluctuations
>can't ever make 5% daily profit with just daytrading even when I 0.01 Isk with EVERNUS

Am I just retarded? The only way I can think of to make decent Isk is by flipping injectors or rorqual mining drones and that requires insane amounts of time or running a bot.
Should I just sell my trade alt?
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>new player exploring in null sec
>50m loot from from only 1 relic site which I found like in 5 jumps or so
>10m loot from 30 systems and 1 wh
how?
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>>168261874
you're looking in an area that's mostly depleted but got lucky once
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>first time exploring
>get first 100m in a single ghost site in high sec
>getting the second 100m took about 10 multi-hour expeditions to null/wh totalling close to 40 hours over 2 weeks
I quit exploration and never looked back. Met more hunting Asteros than cans worth over 4m.
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>>168261874
Catch and Stain used to be the place to go, until TEST moved into the area. Querious would probably be a good place to look.
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>>168262374
I found the 50m in Stain. Then I tried Scalding Pass, Fountain and a WH but it was mostly empty.
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>>168262253
see >>168262080
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wh
pvp
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>>168262760
I explored for close to 40 hours.
Bet there's just a few places I *haven't* been to.
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>>168263021
40 hours is nothing, you didn't have enough time to even sample each area of nullsec
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>>168263021
Everyone knows about the sansha relics, so they just camp the respawns if they live there.
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>>168263157
It earned me next to nothing, so why would I continue or give it more effort (like sample regions or w/e).
Mining in a venture is triple the money with tenth of the risk, hundredth of the effort and twelfth of the commitment.
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>>168263656
You're right. Don't explore, there's nothing to gain from it. Especially stay out of nullsec please.
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>>168262253
>he fell for the exploration meme
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>>168263840
This. We're full.
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>Anon, your wallet says you gave someone 20m. Is this an alt you havent told us about?
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>>168266056
Nope. It's a friend I'm trying to get to play the game with me again. He's being really ambivalent.
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>>168266056
>it's my f-friend
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>>168266056
>he fell for comfy corp meme
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>>168266056
>giving anyone access to your api
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>>168266056
>there is someone autistic enough to actually spend time scouring/watching their members' wallets

Christ
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I have 5 injectors and a new alt

What should I do with him?
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>>168267242
Get 30 more injectors
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>>168267386

I don't mind leaving him for a while but I'm not buying more injectors lad
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Why would people sell their characters? It's like selling children.
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>>168267679
>people want instant access to certain ships (like strategic cruisers)
>skill injectors didn't exist at the time
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>>168266534
>having friends
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>Chasing enemy fleet with tackle frigate in fleet
>Play cat-mouse games with for at least an hour
>Fight finally breaks out
>Get blapped instantly
>Got on literally no killmail
This is why no one flies hero tackle.
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>>168268229
>muh killboard

Everyone who was there to witness it knows, that's all that matters.
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>>168268353
it's nice to at least have some documentation that you helped
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>>168268353
Sorry that some people are in corps where being in killmail actually matters.
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>>168268426
>>168268353
>Having a shit KDA
It's like you want to be turned away for being a shitter. Only fly shitfits and stay back to tag the most expensive kills if you don't want to look like a scrub faggot.
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What's the point in a single mining alt? The time and money would be better off just buying plex. Everything I see is like 50-70m/hour even in null.
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>>168268691
all I ever get is losses because I don't care for pvp
I'm at the point now that I can properly get into it
>>168268735
you need a fleet of alts to make decent amounts mining
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>>168267679

I had 2 and ended up using my 1st one 90% of the time. Instead of resubbing I decided to just sell off the other one. Now I can pvp for like 6 months without having to do a minute of EVE's watching paint dry pve
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>>168268691
this, i used to do a lot of solo roaming and earned each killmail the hard way. i've been rejected from lots of corps i've applied to because i'm 30% snuggly on zkill and my lifetime kills are 'too low' when a F1 monkey who only anchors has 10-20 times the amounts of kills per time played.

to get into a good corp just whore kills and train a FAX alt, that's all there is to it.
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how can I have fun if:

>I work a full time job and go to the gym when I'm off
>leaves me with ~1 hour of play time
>can only binge play on weekends

I joined a mining corp because I'm a fucking faggot and was afraid of dying. They gave me some dope cybers though and I felt compelled to stay, even though all I did was shoot the shit with 5 middle aged european dudes who stayed up really late. I'm a nooblord sitting on 3.5m xp and considering joining a better corp. Spent a lot of time at work lurking the wiki so I'm not completely hopeless. Any corp recommendations? Any /v/ corps? unsure if pastebin corp still active/worthwhile
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>>168271672
uhh, npsi probably
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>>168271672
Any corp in goons if you want to live in null
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>goons
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I haven't played eve since 2014, have no isk and no assets. Every single alliance\corp I have been in has died, quite literally. I started in a muh comfy corp startup alliance, it died. Then I joined Insidious Empire(EMP), it died. Then I joined the Kadeshi, it died a couple weeks after, then Gentlemens club, closed it's doors a couple weeks after just like the rest. Am I cursed?
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>minmanigger
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Market is down again FOR FUCK SAKE CCP
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>gallente skins
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>>168273296
join PL
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If I want to make some extra ISK on the side in addition to ratting or mining or whatever, is PI a good thing to do? I don't do industry and I'd only be doing it to sell materials back to my corp. Would it be worth my time or would it be a wasted investment?
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>mfw all the newfags doing PI and taking all my resources
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>>168275478
a good starter PI plan just requires a week's worth of skillan
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>>168277343
Looks good. Thanks, I'll give it a whirl.
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>someone left a full set of faction heavies at an anom
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I'd fly a victory cormorant if it was less of a blob meme and also less shit for fun pvp
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>>168277343
>tfw 78m sp
>tfw extracted all my PI skills for a week off capital ships 5
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I recently read Empires of Eve and was wondering, is there anything similarly well-documented for some of the more recent Eve conflicts such as World War Bee? Everything that google has turned up on them has been either short game website articles or heavily one-sided propaganda from one of the sides involved.
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>>168275351
>100% are 50% grey
I think they're trying to tell us something here
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>>168268229
>not flying a ceptor with a full rack of inertial stabs to fuck off the moment someone targets you
Smhtbh
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>>168281889
my boi scott manley did this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZQ4ejFq7BY
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Who /comfy/ here?
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>>168233210
I hate x's in names. Really bad. What the fuck is this? Xbox?
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>people taking half an hour hogging the good havens and sanctums
REMOVE VNI
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>>168291304
>dronelands
>carrier ratting
>clearing sites in 15m
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>>168291304
Takes that long in a rattle as well. Only faster thing is a carrier.
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>unironic pve
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>muh pvp
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>playing Eve
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>turning on your computer
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>having electricity
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>>168292446
we all gotta keep the lights on somehow
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>not killing yourself
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-future-of-probe-and-directional-scanning-ui/

>What is happening with the old system?
>In short, the old system is going to be removed when we are happy with the new implementation, but we are committed to this being as soon as possible.

>For the initial release we will keep the “old” system in place and replace the current system with a “brand new” system that’s the default for all new players.

>ccp in charge of removing working things and adding bloat
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>>168295627
but i hate the new probe/map/dscan...
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>>168291304
>take a bomber
>go to a haven with a VNI in it
>cloak up and never leave
>watch rage in local
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>>168295849
>probe

better

>map

never ever, garbage, delete
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>unironically new probe window
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>>168268735
Could do like my old class mate and have an alt that was a perfectly trained mining foreman.
Skills are annoying and not a lot of fun so its was always in high demand from mining groups.

He would get lots of isk by just selling the service of his alt to groups and never having to actually do anything.
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>elinor stopped working, crashes all the time for no reason
>find some gay shit called 'elinor reloaded', seems to be the same shit
>suddenly starts telling me "this shit you trade is unprofitable"
>stupid programm i don't even ca..
>math checks out
>in 1 day 80% of items i traded suddenly became a loss in profit\too small margin
NANI
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>cap is empty
>wonder why
>forgot to pulse capital shield booster and just left it running
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>shield tanking
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>>168300081
>armor tanking ratting carrier
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>ratting carrier
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Exploration isk/hour?
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>>168300164
>not making 100m+ a hour from very little effort
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>>168300174
let's put it this way
you can really only make worthwhile money in null, and there's lots of risk from gate camps and such
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>want to stop playing alone and find a corp
>don't think i will like ratting sites in nulls and certainly not interested in PvP
>literally 0 reason to not be in my solo corp over being in some normie corp
feelsaloneman.
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>>168300174
over a cource of a month it's a pretty decent amount of money.

Over a cource of one day\weekends it can range from "literally nothing" to "holy fuck i never saw that much money in my life before". Also since you have to do it in nulls you have a chace to fuck up and lose everything and your imps.
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>>168301541
>>don't think i will like ratting sites in nulls and certainly not interested in PvP
why
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>>168301826
I just don't like pvp and i heard about all of those retarded "ALL CTA WE NEED TO GO FAST FAST now we wait at gate for 3 hours doing nothing ok, nice evenening guys we did good good game" and overall i just don't see a point in it since i don't care about collecting killmails. Literally just killing people because killing people.

And i remember ratting in nulls long time ago (5 years at least i think) in my dominix: i guess money was alright but it didn't feel any diffirent from missions except that i had to afk for 10-infinity minutes when unknowns entered our system (one time i decided to screw it is when i lost my raven, on well it's not a big loss).
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is valentines day sale a thing?
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>>168302074
there are ways to get out of pvp if you really don't want to I don't know any

dominix is honestly too slow for running sites, though anything that's not a carrier or marauder is going to suck due to just not having the DPS
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>marauder
>dps
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>afraid that my carrier can't take a capital spawn
>need something to kill them quickly
>phoenix seems to have the best dps out of all the dreads
anything bad with this fit?
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>xl torps
>flex
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>>168302670
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>>168302314
Yea, well, dominix was the only ship i had at the moment (and it was given to me by a friend who left shortly after he encouraged me to play eve) so i just used what i could...i remember running out of cap to repair so i had to warp off to recharge. Kinda made me hate drones that potato.

>tfw not even close to flying carriers
>only sort of can fly golem but not other maras
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>>168302785
I'd stick with the domi or maybe a VNI
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>>168302521
>ratting and get an NPC carrier spawn
>guy in corp says he'll come and kill it
>shows up in a nid
>2 mins later he calls for someone else to come help
WTF I thought ratting carriers were able to solo any capital spawn
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>>168302825
Well, i guess you mean it for nulls? Nut im not ratting in nulls atm (i kinda just returned and just fucking around a bit), since then i learned to fly more ships...although not really learned the game, hehe. Maybe running escalations would be fun but again, it's only good if im in allied corp, right?

just gonna post my retarded char for no reason http://eveboard.com/pilot/Evelora
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>>168233210
>called Exdeath
>nothing to do with FFV
I remember being slightly triggered by this, because it's not a reference or a brand based on a game character, they're just being edgy by adding x to their name.
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>>168303246
They can't solo all the spawns, and you need to know what you're doing.
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>>168303246
my fit is made more for blitzing sites, if I wanted something that could tank a capital spawn I'd need a chimera
it doesn't even have a resist bonus, so it's not doing any large amount of tanking easily
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>>168303383
They can
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>>168303270
where are you at right now?
escalations are decent, but they're not worthwhile below 6/10, and they're best done in a tengu
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CAN I GET A QUAFE SKIN WITHOUT THE LOGO PLEASE
PRETTY PLEASE
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>>168303484
I am somewhere in nulls right now, decided to fall for "eploration" meme and it's about as dissapointing to open empty scan resusts as i thought it would be.
Yea i remember doing them in hisec, got maybe like 100m from 3 ded sites total.
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>>168303271
>Exdeath
It's xXDEATHXx, you stupid amerifag!
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rip cluster
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>no eta on how long it should take for the update to drop
>we will give rolling updates on progress of the deployment via the EVE Status twitter feed.

wew.
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>>168303270
Join a nullbear corp, PvE always available, PvP only when too lazy to rat and not have to put up with mandatory fleet bullshit
Get a rattlesnake, domi is no bueno
train cruise missile specialization for t2 high damage ammo, signature focusing to boost application with painters, and heavy drones. Polish those tengu skills to run the 10/10s or sell em to somebody else
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>haha twitter we are so le modern compny le haha xD
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>wake up
>downtime
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>middle of the night
>downtime
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>surely they won't fuck all the time
>they fuck up
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>pay $15 a month to cloaky camp and get yelled at by ratters and miners and then get yelled at by my CEO due to all the complaint messages when we're not supposed to be a pvp corp and they come to cloaky camp in retaliation
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>pay
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Nice game
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>Deployment of the 119.2 release is taking a little longer than expected after we encountered an issue during startup - More info soon!
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>>168306148
every fucking time there's a update they have issues
it's been nearly15 fucking years
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>mfw preparing a lawsuit for my lost isk/hr
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>>168306521
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>Tranquility will stay offline until deployment issues are resolved. See the forums for further details
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Guys! It's a feature!
Remember? It's supposed to be Guardian's Gala!

Pirates are sabotaging the servers so they can smuggle in the boosters without CONCORD intervention.
Those bastards.

Any ideas on how we "smuggle ourselves in"?
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>>168307250
We'll make our own server! With Blackjack and Hookers!
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>We've encountered several issues during the deployment of the 119.2 release.

>Our Operations team is currently working to complete the deployment, resolve the issues, and bring Tranquility back online.

Time to start biomassing irl.
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>>168304870
So you're saying i should find a null corp to farm?
I kinda not sure if it will be better than just l4 missios or how i get ammo\how i share sites with people but maybe i should try...i'd prefer to go as tengu instead of rattle: dislike rats and null travel in BS feels annoying and i never flew tengu before. I see a bunch of fits for 10\10 with HAMs so i assume just ratting in null will be okay too?

But i suppose i will have to find specifically gurista\serpent corp...Do you have any recommendation or just browse everything "pve, null, shitty CEO, tax 20%"
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Can an alpha clone player do level 4 missions with Gnosis?
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>>168307905
L4's are shit unless you blitz them quickly
most corps have a policy about how to share sites, normally a first come basis. my corp has a channel where you post the anom ID to avoid having people warp to a in progress site
tengu would be better but HAM's eat ammo fast, I had a stack of 500,000 missiles and they were gone in a week
having a tengu or any strategic cruiser in null is very useful though, one of the largest ships with a way to avoid bubbles
most corps have 10% tax, I'd suggest joining a renter corp to avoid alliance bullshit
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>>168308270
well, it's not like im bringing any ship but what im flying so im only limited to one...and drones are the best solution (and i hate fucking drones).
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>have slow internet
>the patch will be downloaded by the time CCP fix their shit
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>launcher updates
>accounts get logged out
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>>168308608
jump freighters exist
I'm sure there will be someone in corp who will gladly ship things out from jita for a reasonable fee
I pay my guy 1300/m3 just because he's the only one who owns a JF
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EVE IS DEAD.
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>>168308826
EVE IS in VIP mode
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>>168309076
How can I become VIP?
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>>168308751
Well, im not very inclined to just give some random goy i just met, who may or may not be in jita at the moment or maybe he's gonna go there in a week so just wait a week lol (that happened), my ships and equips (if i were to take 10\10 tengu it's gon be 1billion at least). Or do i "buy" from him and then pay as i get it? Still leaves the problem of waiting for him to get in jita, bring it back, and then "we need to relocate"...or maybe i just don't want rattle.

Just dunno, i guess im exaggerating but last couple of corps i was in kinda annoyed me and i don't want to join rando corp of people who can't even fucking type without making 5 mistakes in 2 words. Gonna try and look when i get home.

Also am i correct that inters\tengus can just warp from gate to gate and immune to bubbles? or how does that work?
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>>168309187
You have to suck a lot of dicks.
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>>168309187
Join CCPL
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>UPDATE - 12:40 UTC - INVESTIGATION CONTINUES, THE ISSUE HAS BEEN NARROWED DOWN
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>>168309695
>INVESTIGATION CONTINUES
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TQ up, boys
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It's online.
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>UPDATE - 13:15 UTC - TRANQUILITY IS BACK ONLINE AND ACCEPTING CONNECTIONS. WE ARE MONITORING.
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>>168310635
Super laggy though. Industry panel never loaded anything, undocked and stuck at black screen.
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How often do these sites spawn? Being in a null corp is hell, all gobbled up in 5 minutes
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>>168310807
Industry has different default filters now.
Make sure you aren't just filtering out everything.
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>dev blog shows hecate skin
>TQ hecate doesnt have a skin
huh?
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>>168304870
why heavy and not sentry? I thought mjd from gate and snipe would be a better choice, or no? And i thought about it, can't i do 10\10 in rattle anyways?
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>>168312673
Sentries can't hit shit.

With a t2 omni link 1 gecko can 1 shot frigates, it saves so much time.
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What minimum specs do I need to run this game in 1080 at 60fps? Are the specs listed on their site true because that means literally anything in the past 3 years can run this game maxed.

I'm currently running on a 5 year old toaster laptop so I unfortunately can't play.
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>60fps
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>>168315479
My 9 year old budget rig ($200) can run EVE maxed ~20-40 fps @ 1680x1050 in all situations except massive fleets.
So if that's of any indication, a 3 year old anything *should* indeed be able to run it 1080@60fps assuming no massive fleets.

But wait for more opinions.
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no boosters?
fuck

also, thanatos skin looks amazing
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>>168315923
I imagine since the official site is asking for a 500 series nvidia for recommended specs, anything in the 900/1000/400 (AMD) series can run it max with large fleets. I'm looking for some feed back as to what people are currently playing on. I've wanted to join in on EVE for years now and after I gather data on what to purchase I'll be joining y'all soon enough.
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Pupper is alive and kicking, in providence.

Join: House of Pups channel and JOIN PUPPER
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>>168316490
is this real
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>event starts
>the only skin worth getting (hecate) didn't make the cut
>decide to give it a try anyway
>warp in to some random site to see what's inside
>it's just a bunch of frigates
>"this should be easy"
>dock up, fit some junk guns laying around
>3 sites got completed during that 1 minute period and the last one in the system has 3 Gilas and a Rupture inside them
>go look for another site
>5 jumps later found one
>warp in, 5 frigates
>can't even break their tank
>dock up and log out
Thanks CCP for this nice literal shit event.
Wake me up when it's over.
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>>168314135
And use gecko against other rats too? How should i fight then, just warp in and slowboat to gate while killing everything\stay in one place? Or i still use MJD?

What do you think about picteraled? It's just "work in progress" i did, i suppose i should get second link if i want to use MJD, not sure about math\how far rats spawn. This monstrocity is even cap stable for some reason. Not sure if i should brawl or snipe and if i should use speed modules (and what i drop for them)
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>pithum b-type medium shield booster
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>>168316762
Swap 1 ballistic control for a cap flux and its stable.
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>large cap battery II
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>>168316595
everything that exists is real, silly anon
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>>168316701
>event starts
>find some sites while scanning my chain
>solo them in an Astero while literally no one is around
>get a Kronos skin
Thanks for the event CCP
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>>168317117
I still don't know what's bad in undersize boosters against rats, they give more shield for the same amount of cap...

>>168317217
2 invuls will be enough in 10? How much stats does it have? So i just enter pocket and slowboat to gate\align to my "safe" spot? What's the point of caprech\battery (inb4 so you can have more cap), you just talk with active booster rather than higher resist\aplifier?

Where do i download eft from, original thread is outdated as fuck and one link dead and another virus, i just use in-game fitter when im home, it's comfy
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>>168316595
join the channel and all your questions will be answered
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>>168316762

>geckos

One of the worst memes for ratting ever
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>>168317764
I don't want to
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>>168317217
Oh yea, what drones tho
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>>168317792
--_(*-*)_--
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>https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/breaking-news-state-of-emergency-declared-after-confirmation-of-kyonoke-outbreak/

Are capsuleers vulnerable to space plague? I don't want to die.
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>>168317771
Its literally the best drone for ratting.
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>>168303270
>34m SP
>Capacitor Management 3
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>>168303270
>2008 char with 34M SP
suddenly I don't feel so bad about my 2010 char with 63M SP
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>>168317693
>>168317930
Please herp? I guess i will simulate that fit when i get home, i don't know what i should expect, maybe you're trolling me maybe not, i guess i will try it (after trying to find a corp), it's not like i will be able to 10\10 right away since i will need to clear a lot of sites to escalate.

Or maybe just gonna fuck off from nulls because i'd have to communicate with people in order to run them.

>>168321858
D-don't...
>>168321985
bully...

it's not like i've been subscribed all this time...i mean it's not like im killing myself over not having every skill at 5, right? haha...
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Did anyone drop anything beside skin form those event sites?

Also, if you drop some capital skins, hurry up and sell them ASAP, sold Nyx skin for 250m in jita
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>>168321985
>tfw 2004 char with 15m or so

Haven't logged in in a couple years though. Eve is too p2w nowadays.
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>>168322687
Apparently boosters are supposed to drop, but I haven't seen any evidence of that.
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How bad has inflation been?

How much is a plex nowadays?
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>>168318334
>oijanen
It must've been the aids-ridden lowsec memecorps full of inbreds.
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>>168323370

Plex is +1bil
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/astral-mining-confirms-loss-of-communications-with-prospecting-facility/

Wew lad wtf is going on this february.
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>>168322475
>it's not like i've been subscribed all this time...i mean it's not like im killing myself over not having every skill at 5, right? haha...
Don't sweat it I've only been subscribed for like 3 of the 7 years my character has existed too. It's just that people see old characters and expect you to be a rich 150m SP vet.
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>>168309419
>Also am i correct that inters\tengus can just warp from gate to gate and immune to bubbles? or how does that work?
they have a dedicated subsystem for that
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>>168325484
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Do you have to scan down galas or do they appear on the overview?
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>>168326775
Appear on the overview.
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>>168327303
I had the wrong overview so I couldn't see it. Thanks. As a side note, a guy in a stratios ganked me but I was actually in my own pvp stratios because of laziness, ended up being a free kill.
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>decide to look around my old accounts
>find my old account
>old account so old it has no transaction or login entries
>old account i accidentally keps reneving without actually playing or training
>character i had on this account was transfered to my current account because i asked GM to do so
Is it even worth trying to get SP from it? Do they even keep logs for so long? It says i have aplha account since 2009 lol (as it does on my every old account)
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>>168325484
rush b syka.
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Well today was a nice day.
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>>168328865
I just got SP back from lost training time in 2011
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>>168331081
Yea but that "lost time" is on another account for character i already transferred from there...hmm
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>>168331695

Might as well try. Worst they do is say no.
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>>168329953

Oh no what have I done...
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>>168329953
>>168332352
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where the gala sites at
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oneiros
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>into lowsec once
>immediately die to gatecamp
>never found gala site
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>gatecamp

who the fuck still dies to gatecamps
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>Found an Erebus skin
>No chance I'll ever fly one
Why do they tease me so
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>>168332926
Gala sites can spawn anywhere.
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>>168335425
newfags like me who take L2 mission caracals out for valentine's day shit
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>>168335581
Sell it you twerp
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>>168335681
you mean newfags who jump into tama from highsec
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>>168335763
no i jumped to daras
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>>168335739
How much is it selling for? It's not on EVE central.
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>>168336001
I sold Erebus for 70m and nyx for 250m
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>>168336001

They sell on contracts go see what the cheapest contract is for that in jita and undercut it.
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>angel cartel battlecruiser
>model is a cynabal
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>Haven't found a gala site without a faggot already in it
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>>168337539
>found 3
>kronos helios megathron
>mfw the only good ship out of those is invisible 99% of the time
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What do you do the sites in?
Can't break their tank in an interceptor.
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>>168337839
>What do you do the sites in?
stratios
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>>168337897
2expensive4me
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>>168337839
any pvp ship
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>>168338708
Use a vexor then
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>>168339132
>>168340175
Went with Algos
>first skin I got was for Algos
Thanks game, how nice.
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>tfw don't know what the fuck this event is.
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>>168341048
valentine's day, loser
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>>168341048
you know the day you spend with your waifu
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>>168342013
Shit, you're right I have to spend time with her.
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>>168342013
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>>168340393

Ratting or pvp fit? help a noob out its my birthday
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post you're hangars
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>>168343281
DELET
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>>168343281
pretty epic stuff there dude

edit: how do I like posts on 4channel?
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>>168342719
I went with some shit dualprop with only tank being small shield booster and damage control because didn't know what to expect.
So that kinda classifies as ratting fit.

Speedtanking everything with ab and just doubleclicking in space keeps everything in optimal.
Rarely had to use shield booster but probably wouldn't tank without it. Cap wasn't an issue if pulsing booster.
Bet MSE (if it fits? not sure) could make it 100% passive.

Worked for me. Could probably drop mwd, only time I use it is to get the loot before someone else snatches it.
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>>168344143
i dunno, lol
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>>168344143
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>>168344209

Thanks for the help, but I actually just found a VERY quick and cheeky way to do it. Vexor at 50/70, drop sentries and everything dies very quickly. My first skin is a deimos :)
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why the fuck was i using a caracal for missions moa is so much better
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Is there any point in doing the gala sites in null? have to jump around so much just to find one, not even taking into account neuts/risk etc.

I feel like for how cheap they will be I'm better off just ratting and buying them
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>on gate
>preserving the safe space
>friendlies come through
>wave in local
>no response
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haven't played in a while..
wtf are sponsored killmails?
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>>168347052
o/ anon!

keep up the good work!
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>>168347142

You can pay the guy that made zkillboard ISK to put your killmail on the front page for a bit.
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>>168347142
You know how sponsored search results have nothing to do with anything other than how much someone payed to have them displayed? They're like that.
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>>168347052
cuck
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>>168347374

Not him but I didn't know that existed. So its literally just paying for your internet spaceship ego?
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>>168347360
>>168347374
ahh, thanks guys
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>>168347380
I don't want nerds coming into my system and messing with my friends
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>excited for booster
>no booster
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>>168346984
>Finding 4 sites in one system
Keep looking
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>>168347559
Yes.
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>>168287531
>Gallecuck scum
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I have two new alpha accounts, I sent a recruit a friend email on the other account to get 250k skillpoints. What happens if i upgrade my second account, do I get extra plex that I can only use on my first account or can I use two plexes on one account?
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>>168343281
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>>168350371
I found my answer: https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203465501-Recruit-a-Friend
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So everyone is talking about some sort of event but I haven't seen anything?
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>EVE central doesn't list prices for gala skins
How much are these worth?
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>>168350527
thanks doc
>>
why the market gotta be broke
quality programming thanks ccp
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>>168351397

t1 ships mostly ~30m each atm
bigger/fancier stuff anywhere from 50 to 250m

prices will keep dropping as the event goes on
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Tempted to buy the PLEX Gala Gatecrash but I already spend way too much money on this game
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>>168242523
>>168242741
Actually what we get out of it is a non-commital corp, I love being able to just join a fleet without having to follow doctrine completely or use all my time doing what my corp wants. I can take offa few months off come back and boom its like i never left. Sometimes i just don't have the time for eve and horde is perfect for that. yes it can suck to rat for a ship that you lose in a second but horde offers freedom.
>>
please respond
>>168351158
>>
>grind away sites at snail's pace
>right before BC spawn someone drops in, nukes the BC and takes all the credit
Every. Single. Time.

Been at it for hours and only managed to get 3 skins out of them.
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>>168352781
Why don't you shoot them
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>>168255556
Because the main draw of eve is merciless wars fighting over nullsec space by player corporations squabbling for power. most players join because they've heard of the incredible world of politics, markets, and wars that are all player driven and uncontrolled.
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>>168353145
concord
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>>168353380
Cuck
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>>168353416
I'm not enjoying it, so can't be a cuck.
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please respond
>>168352779
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>>168353817
What do you want
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>>168353817
yes
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>Small gang gatecamping entrance to our pocket
>Get on comms, call it out
>No one gives a fuck or wants to stop it
>Too busy turbrojewing

I don't know what I expected
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>5 frigs
>5 cruisers
>1 battlecruiser
That's it? Sounds like the site can be done with a buffer tank. Does the rats scale with the true sec?
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please respond
>>168353817
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>>168354713
It's the same everywhere. You can use any pvp ship
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>>168354890

https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-guardians-gala/
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>>168354705
do they not know if they let it continue they'll come in and blow up your shit?
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>>168354890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwgthGo6Wss
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How well would this build fair with 1080 resolution on max settings?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wy8KxY
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>>168355265

I run 1080 max settings on my laptop with an 870m.
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>>168355095
thanks

>>168355145
ew go away
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>>168355097
Nah, they were looking for some easy kills. There is 0 chance they are able to out escalate us, and if they go in the pocket people who do care in the alliance would box them in.
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I could be flying in militia fleet for FW but I could also just get hella cozy under the covers and watch stupid shit on youtube
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>>168355547
Wow rude
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>>168353572
you must enjoy it, otherwise you'd have left by now
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>>168356857
I did.

Shit event, as usual.
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>>168357381
i mean leave highsec, cuck
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>>168357608
That'll never happen, event or no event.
Non-highsec doesn't exist to me.
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>>168357917
exactly
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>>168270550
That sounds like the corps suck cock
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>>168358128
So you think I enjoy EVE and would quit if I didn't?
Nice try.
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>>168359936
you enjoy being a cuck, otherwise you wouldn't be one
>>
I want to fly something very tanky with lots of ECM, to act like a police of sorts in our home system, with no intention to kill, just something that will never let the enemy do anything. I was thinking about a Jamgu with the nullify module. How viable is this?
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>>168360273
I don't enjoy life. Explain how am I still alive.
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>>168360371
you aren't, you're a cuck
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>>168360348

As viable as you're mum WAHEYYYY
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>>168360707
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Just realised since 1st Dec last year I have spent ~$480 on EVE
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>>168361732
I've probably spent half that much
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>>168361732

You are why I can buy cheap plex thanks bro.
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>>168357917
Kys desu
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>>168361959
>>168362165

I'm not sure how to feel about it t bh

I don't really play any other games nowadays because there are so few good releases. I mean I've paid almost $2200 in rent during that same time so its not much in comparison for the hours of enjoyment I put in. Still, it feels wrong.

How much do you all spend on games a month or year? I could save a lot of money if I stopped this habit with EVE but then I think I'd just have nothing to come home to and off myself sooner
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>>168362484
I don't do anything else nor plan on it, so I just burn my money on EVE to avoid the grind.
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>>168362484

I spend nothing on eve. Pay for subs with ISK, I dont pay for many other games maybe buying a game once a month.
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>>168362484
most of my money for games goes to eve
I have the ability to pay for plex in game but that's not fun

I bought overwatch ($40) and a unusual for TF2 ($40), the unusual has given me more enjoyment than overwatch
>>
>faggy feels shit on r/dog
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>>168362737
>>168362760

Yeah I could plex in-game if I wanted to, but that would be so many hours of grinding when my mind always circles back to it being just a day's wage for 10x more.
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>>168362484
10 or less
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>>168363013
>100m/hr carrier ratting
>10-12 hours of gameplay
>spread over a week it's not much
>spread over a month it's nothing
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>>168363013

I just trade for my ISK while doing something else. Doesnt feel like grinding at all.
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>>168363162
>carrier ratting is as profitable as an alpha explorer who knows where to find sites
okay
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>>168363162

That's not bad at all. Guess I'll just have to wait until I get to that stage

>>168363171

I really should put some effort into jewing, I tried it for a while and had some success. I just got sick of having to bump orders so often
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>>168363247
>exploration
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>>168363669
it's just kind of sad, i was thinking about maybe moving onto ratting but if it doesn't get any better than just riding an astero around there's no point
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>Doing gala sites in null
>Guy comes in interceptor and scrams me
>tfw shitfit and can't do jack shit to him
>Says he'll let me go for 2 skins

I gave them to him, not my proudest moment. In retrospect, I should've just activated all the skins I had and gave him the finger.
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>>168364215
I'm surprised he let you go after you gave him the skins.
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Does it ever stop hurting?
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>>168364554
Buy my skill injectors, goy.
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>empty in a nullsec system
>suddenly 150 people jump in
I wonder if they're having fun.
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>>168364554

Yes see >>168329953
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>>168364554
nope
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>>168352215
>mfw that's BNI has always been
>mfw PL hateboner for BNI is endless
>mfw BNI now have TestCo backup to fuck off the rorqual spam
>mfw PL is Eve senior's care
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>>168364215

Honouring a ransom still exists? Am I in 2003 again?
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>>168363162
>just over a dollar an hour
>for half a day
>"an hour a day over a month it doesn't feel like you're wasting your fucking life at all"
that's not end game content, that's a space-job and you're better off delivering junk mail for four hours a month
>inb4 i can't walk and i'm allergic to fresh air
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>>168366623
I have no arms and am allergic to sunlight.
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>>168343281

I have too much shit in too many places.
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when will i have billions of isk worth of ship lying around
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>>168367840
In a few years.
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>>168367840
buy plex and sell it in game goy
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>>168363247
>exploration
you need Luck V to made any reliable amount of money
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Do I wait 40 more days or should I just buy plex and inject into an ishtar?
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>>168368249

Always buy plex.
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>>168368241
If you don't find at least 1 relic site per system on average after getting 10 or 20 hors experience then you don't need luck, you need a brain
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>Gallente
>>
>cuckdari
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what's a good slur for amarrians
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>>168369328
cap
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>alliance moving
>30+ jumps fml
>get in astero, decide to explore my way there
>5 jumps from start, 200m worth of loot
well shit
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>astero
>not imicus
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i thought gala sites were in the scanner not beacons in the overview
got a gala site tho
maybe 3
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>>168364554
do you even know
>3/4 of this is just level 5 skills
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>>168370359
make that one magus skin
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>he doesn't kill every imicus he sees
>he doesn't camp sites afk to take breaks
>he denies himself killmarks and loot drops
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if you're not killing every scrub Imicus you see, you're indirectly responsible for loot prices crashing.
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>roll up on gala site in HS
>stratios running it, figure whatever, whoever gets the BC kill gets the skin
>14-man fleet of his alliance mates warp in, all target me
>I get the BC kill anyways
>None of them take the skin
Who mischievous here
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>hisec
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>highsec fags are unironically allowed to post
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>>168372463
hey i dont even have a million sp yet
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I have a cheeky idea lads (I'm not sure how site despawning works though so please tell me if this is possible or not)

>45k hull tank VNI with 2 webs and scram
>sit in site that someone has just completed (I enter before they warp off)
>wait to be jumped by neut(s)
>lock down neut of choice
>call fleet

thoughts?
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>>168260348
I made like 300mil in few days on a brand new alt by trading in Jita and only started with 400mil. It's boring as fuck though because you have to constantly micromanage all of your orders to make sure no one has undercut you. You also need to look at the volumes being traded everyday. An item with a large margin between it's buy and sale prices isn't worth shit if only two are sold a month.
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>>168373363
anomalies despawn when you kill the last rat, or sometimes when you kill an arbitrary despawning trigger usually during the last wave
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>>168373363
Sites despawn after all rats are killed
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>>168373527
>>168373548

What if they leave a rat and I just maintain long range by pulsing mwd?
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>be in KF
>roll up in loki to every hisec gala site i see
>steal skins and sit there flashy yellow
>nothing ever happens
wartargets are just the scabs on the ass of hisec hubs and the [CONDI] ticker = FEAR OF PURE EVIL for hisec shitlers in their gilas, confessors and VNIs.
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>>168332352
I'm new, but couldn't you come out to nullsec in a worthless fuccboat and let me kill you? I'll split the bounty with you. We could shyster the guy even further.
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>>168374190
You only get about 20% of the killed player's ship's value for the bounty pay out to prevent people from doing exactly that.
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>>168374190
Bounties are paid out by 20% of the players boat worth drawn from the total bounty pool

Bounty hunting does not exist.
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>>168372792
I was in w-space when I had 500k sp.
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>>168230562
>New>Old no matter how much screaming autist are gonna tell you

Someone gets it
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>>168374639
I was in Jove space when I had 50k SP
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>>168374692
I was killing multiple sleepers in my shitfit rifter at 0 sp
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WHOEVER JUST ROBBED ME OF A PERFECTLY GOOD VALENTINE'S DAY SKIN WITH A FUCKING TENGU IN HIGHSEC I HOPE YOU FUCKING CHOKE
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>>168374345
>>168374416
too bad, sounded like a laugh
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>>168375042
>in highsec
There's your problem
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>>168329953
I don't understand how this happened.
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>>168375104
whenever i leave i just die
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>>168375140

The guy probably meant to private contract it to his alt but forgot to click private. So the default cost is 1000 isk for public contracts.

Always review your contracts before you post kids.
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"one moa down" fucking assholes that was half my isk
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>>168375320
>flying Moas
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>>168374416
Not as some kind of separate thing from other pvp no, but it's not like it's a problem
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>>168375320
Stop bling fitting pvp ships if you aren't space rich
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>>168369642
I'm glad we're out of CR
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>>168375510
Kys, moas are ok
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>>168375510
what the fuck am i supposed to fly with 600k sp
>>168375930
i'm still making money actually i didnt put myself in a hole for a moa, between bounty prizes and loot from recent missions i can replace it and still break even, still gaining standings
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>>168375202

I know your pain. In nearly 14 years I've probably only spent about 6 months in total outside of Highsec.
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How old is eve and when's birthday?
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>>168377015
soon
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>small gang corp moves to wh
>fuck that shit
>move to npc delve
>do L1 missions for blood raiders in a noobship
>graduate to punisher
>get booster bpcs/ implants from LP store
>jump clone back there whenever things are slow
npc null is just lowsec with bubbles and no sec status bullcrap
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>>168377015

It will be 14 years on the 6th of May
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>>168255258
What is stopping one of their subordinates taking over to claim more of the space pie for himself? i.e. mutiny.

Don't play the game, merely looking into maybe getting into it, but if this is a game with """freedom""" regulated by the top 10 guild leaders and their buddies on the dev team I think I'll pass, I have had such an experience with two "player driven" PvP MMOs in the past, don't feel like going through it a third time.
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Weapon tiercide when?
>>
is it possible to go fast as a caldari ship? just asking.
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>>168304310
Still a stupid name.
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>>168380146

He's right. Its like someone just couldn't let go of the days when they had their MSN Messenger name laden with xXx and fucking ASCII everywhere.
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>>168379943
tengu can do around 640m/s sustainably with a 10mn
caldari interceptors exist
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Where are these presumed beam buffs someone talked about last thread?
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>>168382684
caldari interceptors don't exist
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>>168382772

ETA 2012 lmao
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>>168382772
small and medium have already been buffed too much and outdamage pulses with double range
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>fly around high sec in a hyperspacial Mach blapping Guardian gala BCs
>shitters in the sites get really angry
>they never just steal the skin and warp off
>rack up 200mil bounty in 3 hours
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>>168385240
I honestly see no reason to use pulses. beams + imp standard literally equals scorch ammo but cap efficient, and with a slow speed amarr line up its difficult to face melt with conflag.
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>>168386429
The higher tracking is niche as shit, only useful when fighting larger ships than yours, and never ever useful in gangs. Short range guns should btfo the DPS of long range guns, ccp is fucking everything up
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>>168379558
It's not that bad, when groups fight over space or resources they still play to win. It really depends on who you play with too. Not everyone just wants 'good fights', there are still groups that just want to grief people out of the game.
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>>168373368

I never traded in a serious manner but in order to profit you need a freighter or similar to do inter regional arbitrage.

Also if you can use EvE's API to get real time intel on product prices with a script, you are gold (not even sure if this kind of info is available by the server though).
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>>168389535
The big time region traders just use public courier contracts.
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>>168389749

Who the fuck runs those?

>pay 900mil in collateral
>travel 30 gates
>gets 10 mil

Anyway, if you can run it yourself and set up a few orders and you get the snowball bigger after a while you could ry both using yours and contracts to move a shitload of stuff. I assume that by then theres not much margin for selling the crap though.
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>>168389893

>pure speculation ofc, never done it and it also depends on what info you can pull out of CREST. eve central is full of shit.
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>>168389893
The going rate in 'Haulers Channel' is 500k Isk per jump for 1B collateral. Lower volume contracts between hubs get picked up too because people want to fill up their freighters even when you lowball and only pay around 100k per jump.

If you pay Red Frog/PushX rates you can get people to haul multiple billions worth of collateral in a freighter. I don't know why they do it but these contracts get done.
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>>168365969
So is bni cool?
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How many CPU cores does Eve actually use?
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>>168390815
BRAVE is a meat shield for TESTCO. Check out Brave Newbros if you want to live in Sansha space.
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>>168266056
>not using a known "trading" alt to leave dead drops for your other account
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>>168391735
1
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>>168392347
If this is true, I believe you.
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>>168392485
I'm honestly just guessing. I don't have fps problems while having two eve clients + world of warcraft running at the same time with my quad core.

It could easily be using 2 cores per client, but the second thread could be being used so lightly it doesn't really mater much.
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>>168392904
I have a friend that runs it on a Core 2 Duo. I run it on a 6850K. I don't see $500 in difference. I feel like eve has a lot more to do with network latency and GPU than CPU speed. I don't know though.
>>
So what specs would /eog/ think is the perfect Eve machine?
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>Spend over a week/multiple skill injectors skilling into something
>End up never using it
What's its name?
Tactical Destroyers for me
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>>168317217
>>168316762
So which one is better or are they both shit?
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>>168393530
Mining barge
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>>168393301
SSDs and lots of ram are important. CPU and GPU not so much. I'm running 6 clients on a ancient quad core.
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>>168393879
This one
>>168317217
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>>168395014
Okay thanks, what about drones? There is a lot of "gecko is shit" and "gecko is the best" and ">dog picture criticising everyone"
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>>168395339
gecko is the best
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>>168395339
Gecko is the best but they're also a meme for being expensive compared to other options
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>gecko
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Came back to eve, see all thouse...citadels? around jita with "0% tax come in!" - is this some kind of scam? Like they wait untill i get a lot of shit to station but then deny entry? Or just an attempt to overthrow jita 4-4?
I guess selling on them is useless anyways since jita-4-4 has more people anyways.
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>>168395739
I place my buy orders in a citadel in Perimeter to pay less taxes.
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>>168395739

Reminds me of the Dotcom bubble. Thousands of sites all selling the same shit. Eventally only a few will become profitable and useful.
>>
Eve in my opinion is a good game but its really hard for newbs like me to get on it because it has a very huge and complicated ecosystem and to learn everything to be a normie player you have to know a shit ton of things no one explains you but the internet. I've been days doing missions for the agents because i am scared of going to anywhere near nullsec and getting rekt also i dont know shit about the skill training system and i dont even know any other weapon nor ship than mines (which i dont even remember) but over all its a pretty nice game that the players have owned and have dominated, eve in my opinion its just the map and territory you have there, its you who makes its own story there, wich is really cool
>>
>blog
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>>168396480
xd
>>
Just getting into the game with a new character, transferred a lot of my skills over from an old character though.

Any recommendations for a well-populated corp?
Looking for low-sec, possibly null-sec small to medium gang pvp.
I don't want massive time dilated fleet fights with supercapitals, that just sounds boring.

Praise Empress Jamyl
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>>168396718
plexodus or exodus
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What is a good solo t1 battleship other than megathron?
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>>168397024
hyperion is significantly better than megathron. never fly megathron. tempest and typhoon are ok too. if you like faggy drone memes then armageddon is alright, and dominix is ok too it's like an armageddon but worse
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>>168397024
Raven, Maelstrom, Potatonix, don't know about amarr but on the first glance Abbadon looks better than apoc.

That is if you consider pirate ships to not be t1.
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>solo maelstrom
>abbadon ever
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>>168397250
>That is if you consider pirate ships to not be t1.

only autists consider pirate ships to be t1 when not talking about manufacturing

bhaal and mach look ok for solo. I wouldn't ever solo in an abaddon or maelstrom, they're just not suitable for it. raven might be ok, but typhoon is really a lot better for this kind of thing
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>>168397361
>only autists consider pirate ships to be t1 when not talking about manufacturing
I mean...they don't take much longer to learn than t1 and usually cost only twice as much as t1 BS.
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>>168397697
yes and they're very underpriced right now, but you're still a big autist if you suggest a pirate ship when someone asks for t1

less than twice as much, I think, shit is so fucked
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>>168397227
I hate Hyperion. It's an extremely obvious "You can't break me without caps" meme ship, it is almost impossible to get an enjoyable fight with it.
I guess I'll look into Tempest.
>>168397697
Bhaal is the price of a t1 battleship these days. Mach is slightly more expensive.
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>You can't break me without caps
lol
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>>168397867
>It's an extremely obvious "You can't break me without caps" meme ship

but you want make those kinds of shitty fits on other ships? pleb playstyle, you've got to be aggressive and bring more damage, and also mjd
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What abotu Kronos though? Can i blast that ass with void mass?
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>>168398101
marauders are trash
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>>168398164
N-no...dafuk do i do with my caldari bs 5 then.
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>>168398335
fly caldari bs. marauders are unironic pve shit
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>>168398047
When you are flying a battleship, you expect to fight a gang. So you have to tank a considerable amount of damage, else you'll die before killing anyone.
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>>168398404
proof
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>>168398458
yeah if you're just a useless maxtank no mjd thing that just gets tackled then has to engage everything the enemy has. people generally are not going to feed you a load of kills
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>no hecate skin
>no accelerators
well then why the fuck would I play this
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>>168398540
>gets tackled then has to engage everything the enemy has
That's how battleships are flown, you don't really get to kite people around unless it's typhoon or machariel. MJD is nice to have if you have a spare slot for it, but at the end of the day it's just another module getting disabled by a single scram on you.
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>>168398404
I mean, maras are overpriced (if we consider that t1 bs is "enough to do everything") but why are they bad? Tank like crazy, big deeps, salvage and loot without switching to noctis.
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>>168398724
>Tank like crazy, big deeps, salvage and loot without switching to noctis.
so
>pve shit
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>not baiting shitfit Tengus and Gilas in highsec while making a couple hundred million Isk per hour
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>>168398697
no, that's just how you choose to fly them

>disabled by a single scram

if people are scramming you (except hics lol), you can engage them. if you don't have the mjd they can just shit all over you with zero effort. 2 interceptors could tackle you at a gate until downtime
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>>168365106
>>168364554
>>168370380
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>>168398781
For some reason i thought that guy was looking for pve ship, fuck me in potato.
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>>168398825
>2 interceptors could tackle you at a gate until downtime
That's why I dualbox a command dessie. And before they became a thing I had an option of deploying a mobile micro jump unit or mobile depot to fit stabs.
Now tell me how do you engage a gang in a battleship without being able to tank at least 1500 dps? Or you prefer to run from anything bigger than 3 hurricanes and get fights once in a blue moon when a few morons engage you?
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>>168399214
you engage part of the gang. this is how all solo pvp works

>when a few morons engage you

this is what you're going for, not me. I outmaneuver and split people, you have to rely on alts and x-type dual reps
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>>168395339
Gecko is the best, but you need a t2 tracking link. The tracking link allows it to hit frigates. Shits cash.
>>
>use snake
>better ticks in wasp IIs than geckos
>explain this shit
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>>168399325
>you engage part of the gang
I do the same thing when the gang is too large. And I don't have to give up on a gang that has a lot of fast tackle or a smaller gang that is too scared to split, thus getting more fights per time period. I still don't get your point in trading the ability to tank more enemy dps ships for a minor increase in mobility or damage.
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>>168393530
Archaeology
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>>168399775
because generally people will bring what they need to kill you. removing one of the most important modules on a hyperion fit so you can fit another cap booster so you can downgrade the guns and fit another rep and tank like 20% more dps, for example, is massively retarded. it's not a 'minor increase in mobility', it's a core part of what makes the ship not a joke. I wouldn't even undock in a solo battlecruiser or bs without a mjd. taking some control of what fights you take and shit like the neuting and projection on a tempest for example opens up so many ways to not get fucked over muh big tank
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>>168399891
>hacking skills
>t2 is a huge boost over t1
>no meta choices
>requires 2 skills to be trained to 5 and those skills are used nowhere else but in this shit
why is it still allowed.
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>>168400007
>ccp
>giving a shit
Reminder that the supposed angel and serpentis event has no serpentis SKINs
>>
>looted a nyx skin 19 seconds before DT

This event has been so good to me, it makes me feel like I might be underestimating just how many skins have been harvested so far.
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>>168400320

picked up 2 Thanatos SKINs before the shutdown.

Got about 22 out of the 55 available
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>event starts
>im in nulls in exploration ship
>i even forgot to take battle fit with me
>too scared to leave nulls because i have a whooping 50 million loot i got from 3 days of scanning for 3-4 hours a day.
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>stationary pre-alignment
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>injectors up to 670m
woooo boy
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>>168400447
>scan for 18 hours today
>3 data sites, 2 of which were sleepers
>>
Any sites that calculate AU to ISK?
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>>168399981
So we've switched from the megathron fit to tempest and hyperion? I wouldn't fit a second cap booster on the hyperion, I'd prefer a web+grappler combo to track stuff. A single cap booster with 3200's is enough to run two reps. And if (when in case of the hyperion) the enemy brings a lot of neuts, dual cap boosters won't do much - you will burn through your charges and die anyway. And I wouldn't fit a dualrep on the tempest, because it is indeed better with dual heavy neuts and decent dps. Same thing with the Machariel.

I don't advocate for the full tank fit for every battleship, I advocate for getting the best out of the strong side of the ship. And in case of megathron, it is tank. And I really don't see any other options of making a good solo megathron other than the dualrep one.
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>>168401757
solo megathron is garbage because no mids and no neut and also worse than the hype in like 5 other ways
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>>168402023
How did Kil2 let them get away with murdering the Megathron.
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What is the best T3D and why?
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>>168402319
They're all good in their own respects and none is really the best at everything
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>>168402319
Wolf
>Unironically flying T3
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>>168401442
Well, you get 3500 aur from a plex. That's one metric.
>>
>>168402716
I meant from the market, like lp to isk
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>>168402804
If there's enough competition, that's about what it would be worth. If you're asking for items that can be bought with aur that exceed that, why would anyone give up their profits to you?
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What can Confessor be used for? Expecially with beams.
>>
Sacrilege
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Can plex be activated remotely?
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>>168405716
Yes.
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>>168405716

yup
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>>168405820
>>168405908
Can I also transfer plex from my alt to my main remotely?
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>>168406241

Make a private contract to your alt from your main with the plex he can accept the contract from anywhere in eve no need to be in same region.

Make sure you double check the contract before you post it or you end up like this fuck >>168329953
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>>168406493
thanks
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>>168230562
TEST ALLIANCE LITERALLY BEST ALLIANCE

join the new southern bloc today
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>>168266056
implying i dont give much more than that to randoms simply because i can.
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>>168317217
It says it has around 950tank with 88k ehp, don't 10\10 have higher dps and some bullshit at the end than hits for 150k damage every minute?
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>>168407896

Yeah its nice to give millions to noobs and watch them freak out like you just gave them a few plex.
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>TEST
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>>168408248
The angels one has a machariel rat with extremely high alpha, the others don't. https://zkillboard.com/ship/17749/
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>>168321985
>tfw 2010 character with 110m SP.
feels good.
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>>168408550
>06 with 97mill
I'm ashamed, although I have spent a few years inactive.
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you can have whatever ship you want even if they're not from your race right?
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>>168409701

Yeah you can grab other races skills
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>>168409731
cool now i have to try to earn some money
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>>168409701
If you're omega, yeah. Alphas can only fly the ships from their own race.
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Why in eve Omegas are better than Alphas? Are they trying to tell us something here?
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>>168410643
yes
give us your money
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small warp core optimizer II
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Thukker Small Shield Extender
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>>168413790
I used to sell them more than the mediums and people would buy them.
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Micro Capacitor Booster II
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Republic anything.
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>damage calculations tell me beams do more damage than pulse lasers
What am I doing wrong?
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>>168414037
It's because they do.
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>>168414076
Then why does nobody use beams?
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>>168414125
I use them in incursions desu
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>>168414125
Cos beams are long range.
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>>168414261
Exactly my point. Beams are
>longer range
>higher DPS
>barely more cap
Why does anybody bother with pulse?
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>>168414367
I don't really know about what everyone uses, but tachyons can give a bunch of range if you need range and when you don't need range you have greater tracking and everything. And beams may give too much range that you can rarelly utilise, beams are also higher on power\cpu aren't they?

But that's just what i can think of.
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>>168414792
>but tachyons can give a bunch of range
i meant scorch.
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>>168414367
tracking.
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>Declaring war
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>join random corp because "it's better than npc corp right"
>hey bro, we run missions and shit, we don't actually live anywhere but we might think about going to nulls soon!
>also we have several wars atm so just beware
>hey why did you left our corp? hello? are you here?
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>one program tells me selling item is not really profitable
>my calculations tell so too (profit=sellprice-buyprice*1.buy+selltax)
>other program tells me it's profitable
I don't know who to believe.
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>>168415892
What seems to be the problem? Every corp that spend significant time in high sec gets wardecced.
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>>168416164
Believe in yourself senpai
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>>168416164
Believe in yourself.
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>>168416189
But why do i need a corp for mission running? Just so i had to play as if i was in null\low without any benefit of those?
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>>168415892
What did you expect?
>>168416343
You can create your own 1-man corp. You need it to get 0% tax.
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>>168416343
You don't need a corp, but you probably aren't going to have much fun if you play eve without other people.
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>>168416453
Well i didn't expected hi-sec to be turned into bigger cancer it is. And i made personal corp but it's sad.

It's like there is no reason to join a corp unless they are living in null and you want to go there.
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>>168416640
There are also wormhole corps. But yeah, corps in high sec don't give you much advantage. In general, as pointed by anon above, you join corps to socialize, talk to other people. But no one forces you to, you can fly alone and have more fun than some people in corps. Or less. It depends, really.
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>>168416514
You don't need to join a corp to play with other people.
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You don't need to play eve to have fun
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>>168417684

Normie pls go
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>>168417684
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>>168417684
>he experiences fun during lifetime
What oddity you are.
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>>168418216
who said i do? I just heard a lot of people are happy and having fun, and they don't play eve as far as i know so it kinda makes you think...
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>>168414367
because good luck tracking stuff with big beams and because scorch plus optimal bonuses can hit sweet spot ranges for tackle modules and do very good damage.

basically, scorch makes pulse good.
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>>168402319
svipul for general purpose
confessor for kiting and sniping
jackdaw for sniping and brawling
hecate for max dps brawling and ok sniping

they're all ok for brawling as long as you respect their resists, they all can technically snipe except for the svipul
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>dominix navy issue
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>Loki
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>>168422060
extracted.
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>>168421764
Wait this can't be true.
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>>168424243

It is
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>>168416343
Mission running corps are either ran by retards or by alts for some easy passive income.
If you're good at recruiting you can just crank up tax to 20% on the weekends. People rarely notice.

You can even outsource most of the work to members after a while. I recruited 30 people into my trade alt's one man corp back in 2014 and they kept paying me tax for a couple months after I unsubbed.
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>>168410321
Sadly, Alphas got only a few ships to ride...
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Are POCOs hard to destroy?
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>>168430137
Not really, you and like 15 of your friends in bombers or bashing oracles can RF them pretty quick
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>>168414367
>barely more cap
Loads more fitting required and 50%more cap is not "barely any cap"
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>>168414125
Beams on frigs are good because the fitting isn't much of an issue

Pulses on cruisers make sense because they use way less cap and have way higher tracking mixed with lower fitting. Using beams on the cruiser level is tough because if fitting and cap use

Beams on the Battleship level is retarded. They use fuck tons of cap and use so much power I'd that none of the amarr battleships can fit a whole set of tachyon a without needing fitting mods out the ass. Mega pulses are superior for this reason (and do more damage for some reason)
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>>168316762
Is that shit is for 10/10 you are ded with that shitty tank bro.
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Can CCP detect virtual machine alpha clones?
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Do i need to scan those event sites or i can just warp to them?
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>>168430979
Well...i though it was ok, but i went with the one below (when i find a corp or something)
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>>168431908

Just warp
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>>168430740
beams are better on cruiers in blobs. you only really need that tracking when doing small gang solo shit

>and do more damage for some reason

the reason is because ccp is yet to break battleship guns, so the short range ones still outdamage the long range ones
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>>168432050
well I can't guarantee it, but I think the blood raider 10/10 last room hit like a fucking truck, before you even try it you better make sure you get reasurance ingame from someone who has done them.
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>>168432303
Hm, thanks, i guess it's in every type of system and im just unlucky? jumed shitloads of high and lows.
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>>168316762
Won't Station Ultima one hit a Rattlesnake? The citadel torp does like 100k damage.
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Are the gala skins cheap? I'm having fuck all luck finding sites
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>>168436924
a lot of them are about 10 mil
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Any link to a guide bout how to use prove scanner?
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>>168437362
>pinpoint formation
>center on cosmic site
>reduce range
>repeat
>level astronomy skills if you can't find it anyways
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>>168437825
I can't see the link anon
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>>168436924
If i find a single site before event ends it would be nice.
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>>168438179
>>168437825
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>>168438234
>uncontested sites literally 4 jumps from Jita
Also try HS pockets in LS sections.
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Is it possible to have fun without getting too committed to this game.
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>>168438839
Depends on you desu
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>>168438605
>tfw no HS alt

Oh well
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>>168438839

No. You either hate the game or it consumes all your free time.
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>>168440717
Why not both?
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>>168440885

Why would you play a game you hate?
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>>168441178
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>>168435698
>>168432740
Well, i don't know how second fit gonna tank it then...
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>>168441305

Next time you REEEEE at the game just sell all your SP off then you will never want to come back.
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Reminder that well fitted maller solos hurricanes no problem.
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>gaylente
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>>168441921

thought that said a well fitted moros for a sec
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>>168442251
moros great gentleman, lots of mids! Naglfar not so many, sad!
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>>168442215
jelly of my blood and faeces skin amarrfag?
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Gala Machariel looks like something deflowered it's asshole, people looking forward to this?
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I can't log in, my character screen freezes. Someone help please!
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>>168443924
All Gala skins are shit desu
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>>168444203
Hecate is good. Why is it not released yet?
Are they planning something big regarding it? Only top 10 event site farmers get it?
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>>168444547
maybe the bottom 10 farmers get it, since the hecate is so shit
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>>168317217
So this fit is not good enough for 10\10? I thought only angels had big dick johnson in last room but apparently every one has?
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>CCP selling >20 dollar bundles
>when they can be bought on the market for less than 20m on the 2nd day
fucks sake
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>>168444724
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>>168444910

Don't forget the plex bundle that's literally normal price
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So when will the skins be cheapest? Midway at peak of supply/interest? Or at the end (despite traders playing games)?
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>>168446105
end of the event I think
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but nag has more mids than moros
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>6 event sites in an empty system
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>Live in a wormhole
>Guaranteed to have empty galas
>Got ganked once
>Killed the ganker because the sites are so easy I can do them in a PvP ship
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>wormholer
>owning pvp ships
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>Living in wormhole space
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>>168448854
Sounds autistic.
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>>168449168
From what I've heard about it, it's like lowsec but worse.
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the capacitor is empty
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>>168447795
is this NOICE or his nose acts as T and it's NOTICE?
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>>168454058
NOICE you poofta
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>all these hauler skins
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>been in horde for a month now
>getting bored of blobbing and feeling the urge to learn more about the game than ratting and F1
>all the more ideal smaller corps/WH stuff are just rampant autism and neckbeards with inflated egos

Guess I'll keep trying to find something for a few weeks and just cancel sub if I don't have any luck
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can we start a new thread already?
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>>168459160
Try looking at some one the lowsec/ faction warfare groups.
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I just started eve, the space backgrounds and the music are so comfy. What is the easiest thing to do in eve that requires minimal effort but has some profit. I want to relax in this beautiful space simulator for the rest of my life.
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>>168460842
Mining?
It will get hella boring though.
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>>168460842
>I just started eve
Did you use a referral link to make your account?
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>Application status changed
>Flagged for review
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>>168461353
yes
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>>168460486

I've done a bunch of FW and honestly its just boring rock/paper/scissors fights that last 10 seconds. Is it better in groups? I guess its also simply because I've been limited to frigs before
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>successful tackle as omen
>start hailing away with conflagration in excitement, it shouldn't be long until my prey is dead.
>enemy activates gremlin nosferatu on me.
>my prop mod, hardeners, web, scram and weapons all shut down.
>The tables turn quickly and I die.
>The capacitor is empty.
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>>168460367
the thread still has another 100 posts
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>>168461429
It would be mostly small gang action, definitely slower paced than solo.
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>>168461376
>Your application to Tengoo has been denied
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>>168460842
mine or do distribution missions
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>>168461695
You could have simply posted
>successful tackle as omen

We all know you had an empty cap and died
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mfw corp is leaving alliance to join a far better one.
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omen has good sig radius though
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>>168461893
>>Your application to Tengoo has been denied
Lucky you, that was a close one!
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Post those alts boys
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>having alts
>not being a soloer
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Do any of you know how the relic spawn system works? It is my understanding that every time a relic site is cleared a new one will spawn somewhere in that pirate faction's space. Has CCP ever given an answer or is everything just speculation?
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>>168463880
CCP will never tell you how to play the game, most player data is speculative.
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Wow this thread is different from the /eog/ I remember

Have all the autistic wormholefags finally killed themselves?
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where did all the shitposters go, ded as fuck
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nothing wrong with blobbing
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>>168467542
>Amarr
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>>168467826
>biggest capacitor
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>>168467538
all-out killed themselves
oruze will grow larger https://zkillboard.com/kill/59899858/
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>>168467930
>still empties fastest

there's a dick joke there but I'm too lazy
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>>168468132
impressed
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>purged from All-Out for not meeting my PI quota
where the fuck do I go now?
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>>168468132
explain that kill?
was there some epic battle behind it? or was it just a boring bash
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>>168468421
ph
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>>168468132

Kek
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>>168468467
>"guys there's an offline POS with an XLSMA in this hole"
>"ok burning some DPS over now, ping it to get some haulers in"
>killmail says 35 billion
>spaghetti starts falling out of everyone's collective pockets
>rageping maxdudes to scoop the massive amount of random ships that dropped
>there's a fucking Thanatos in the wreck, board it and use it to kill the rest of the POS
>realize you came through a 1bill wormhole that can't fit all the battleships that dropped let alone the Thanatos
>realize that the kill pulled to Zkb, is visible on the front page, and already has several comments on it, AND there's active PvP corps in your chain

Somehow we managed to get all of it including the fucking Thanatos out, too.
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>undocked
>"the capacitor is empty"
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>>168469401
>swap mwd for ab
>fit 2 cap rechargers
>mfw I'm cap stable and have infinite ammo
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>>168469671
>Cap rechargers
>not batteries
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>>168469759
>implying I have the cpu or powergrid for that
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>>168469671
>infinite ammo
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>>168432626
>beams are better on cruiers in blobs.
sure but at the expense of fitting or other mods. Mallers should always go with pulses due to fitting for extra tank and the fact that in a brawl the tracking will help more than beams damage.

>yet to break battleship guns
they haven't really rebalanced them in years. Amarr battleships are heavily limited by the fact they have garbage cap, garbage fitting and the weapons use so much cap they're unusable
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>>168469671
>battleship AB
>congrats your speed went from 150 to 210m/s
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what is your favorite system and why is it the quad light beam laser?
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>>168470739
yeah ccp haven't broken the fitting on beams yet iirc, so +100% range for a little tracking penalty does cost some grid at least

>they haven't really rebelanced them in years

battleships do need some work I think, but the main reason why they seem shitty is because of all the meme shit going on with cruisers and cruiser weapons
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>>168468953
oh so its fucking nothing
here I thought you guys had a cool fight or some shit that required skill and fun
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>>168471296
>wormholes
>cool fights
it's all ganks and dunks here

actually that's all of Eve
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>>168471186
>yeah ccp haven't broken the fitting on beams yet iirc, so +100% range for a little tracking penalty does cost some grid at least
Tachyons are unusable on amarr battleships. Their cap and grid costs are insane. They only work on things where powergrid usage is severely reduced like on Nightmares that only use 4 guns compared to 8. By default that also means the cap usage is halved without having a bonus to the cap usage to begin with
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>>168471659
yes. try fitting even mega beams, it's extremely difficult
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>>168471775
Megabeams are shit, no one uses them because they're shit.
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>>168471659
So fly a nightmare, they barely cost more than t1 bs nowadays anyway
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>>168471861
>t1 battleship
>190
>nightmare
>285
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>>168471824
they're ok except they cost too much fitting. you won't see them on nightmares because they have infinite grid, memegeddons don't want them, bhaalgorns want either pulses or all cap shit, and the other ships don't get used
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>>168472000
Yes

Pay it you poor
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>>168472150
>barely
>half the cost more
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>>168472138
>and the other ships don't get used
what is Abaddon
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>>168472315
a ship that is not a proteus
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>>168472315
the abaddon doesn't get used to the point PL uses them with 1400mm artillery because its better than gimping the fit using tachyons
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>>168472208
>used to cost a bil
>now less than a hundred mil extra

You have no excuse
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>>168472475
>used to cost a bill
like 2 years ago
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>>168472475
>it used to cost a billion isk years ago that means you can't refute me telling you to buy it nor "it barely costs anymore" by being 50% more expensive
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>>168472682
they were balanced around being much more expensive than they are now. and it's not 50% if you include just a t2 fit
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>>168472560
And? Battleships are expensive. Why nickel and dime when a measly 100m gives such a massive performance boost?

This isn't some ridiculous pimp fit we're talking about, that's the price of 1 faction damage mod to upgrade the whole ship.
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>want to fly bb
>months for t2 guns
Well fucking shit
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>>168472843
>add a regular t2 fit to both
>190+40 = 250
>285+40 = 325
its 30% more expensive and doesn't get the same insurance payout returned on it because it just gets t1 insurance. So yea its still way more expensive

>they were balanced around a price
they were never balanced behind price. Nothing is balanced behind price

>>168472886
nice shifting the goal posts, first it was "they're barely more expensive" now its "battleships are expensive, stop nickel and diming them"
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>>168472923
so use a dominix or armageddon, or fit rapid faggots to a raven or typhoon
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>>168473061
>they were never balanced behind price. Nothing is balanced behind price

of course they are, are you retarded? navy and pirate ships are all meant to just be straight upgrades that cost more. t2 and t3 are supposed to be better but in specific ways (ccp has not succeeded on this one)
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>>168473061
>they were never balanced behind price. Nothing is balanced behind price
They were balanced about being hard to get, which translates into being expensive. They're also very good, so they're incredible bang for buck to the point of T1 battleships being almost pointless for anything except throwaway insurance fraud.
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>>168473061
It is barely more expensive. 95m is fuck all.
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>>168473207
>of course they are
You say it so matter of factually without any fucking logic to it let alone evidence.

When they got rebalanced they were still over a bill+ for it when they got the AB and tracking bonus.

>navy and pirate ships are all meant to be straight upgrades that cost more
that cost more based on market LP. The Bhaalgorn is literally as expensive as a regular T1 battleship now you don't see any manipulation of balance decisions around cost. Hell tons of these ships have NEVER been touched and their costs have fluctuated around for years and no balance decisions have ever been made "well these are cheap now, time to balance them"

>>168473251
>They were balanced about being hard to get,
No they weren't. Pirate factions were balanced around their niche and given a special gimmick because they are special not that they were inherently more expensive due to availability in LP cost.
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>>168473812
>you don't see any manipulation of balance decisions around cost

that's what we've been saying this whole time. it was intended to be much more expensive than it is now so you should fly it

>and no balance decisions have ever been made "well these are cheap now, time to balance them"

this is just because ccp are fucking retarded and never fix anything

>niche
>special gimmick

that and accross the board improved stats
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>>168473812
>No they weren't. Pirate factions were balanced around their niche and given a special gimmick because they are special not that they were inherently more expensive due to availability in LP cost.
Oh yeah I totally forgot about the incredibly niche role of a laser DPS ship that the Nightmare has. Or the Machariel with its unique autocannon DPS.

Pirate ships are literally just straight up upgrades over T1 but have an unique extra bonus throw on top of the other bonuses which would already be better than T1 in and of themselves.
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>>168474070
>lemme rattle off things about the ship that make it special

You're associating its abilities with its cost cost instead of associating its abilities with the fact that it's a special ship.

The value of the ship is completely irrelevant, farmers could farm that shit so hard that you'd match the mineral costs akin to the bhaalgorn.

You'd be more correct if ccp gave them built requirements greater than regular battleships but that's not so at all

T2 ships Like marauders are balanced around their cost where their material requires supersede the t1 variety entirely or their niche is a side step like blops that don't have better tank than t1
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>>168474025
>this is just because ccp are fucking retarded and never fix anything

>ccp not following my magic made up rule I just invented is more evident of ccp being retarded not that I just made up some shit.

Ccp said themselves they don't balance around cost, they balance around meta evolution and balance between other ships

You have absolutely no evidence that ccp had ever balanced based on isk cost
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>>168474686
>The value of the ship is completely irrelevant, farmers could farm that shit so hard that you'd match the mineral costs akin to the bhaalgorn.
Yes, and the ships were designed back when CCP thought that extremely few people would actually efficiently farm pirate missions to get the rare pirate ships. They were balanced around being sparse, and thus valuable, because pirate LP and DED site loot wasn't supposed to be easy to get.
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>>168474851
I don't think they said that. I think they will all the time imagine an approximate price that something will be traded for when they're balancing shit

>I just made up some shit

why are you being such a faggot? nothing I've said is at all out there

if the price of t2 components had crashed due to some other ccp fuck up, would you be here frothily telling us that 20 mil hacs are completely intentional and nothing to worry about, and that they're "not balanced around price, but balanced around the price of t2 components which makes it entirely different"?
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>>168467538
It's because of all the alphas
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>Outside high sec station
>Notice someone in a frigate burning toward a yellow can
>Preemptively lock them ready to pop them if they turn suspect
>Sits next to the can for a bit before warping away
>Get a mail in Russian from them
>Translate it
>"You dick"
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>tfw interceptor gets within web range, panics and then burns straight away from my low tracking shitfit rail thorax
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>don't feel like playing until skill queue is done
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Why do people hate /ourgame/?
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>>168481219
>gw2 is more popular
>the game that has seen no real content since 2012
makes you think
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>>168480898
>skill queue is never done
iktf
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>>168481219
>reddit
>"people"
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round 2: the electring noobaloo
Do i click the button? Can i conquer all the rats? Anons suggested this fit for 10\10 but im not sure how it will survive the Big Boy at the end. Or just use it for sites in nulls?
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>>168484462
Why do you have all that cap regen in your rigs? You have plenty of cap to spare, surely you at least don't need one to be T2.
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>>168484676
well im not exactly sure what to put instead of it - more cap to god of cap...all i can think of is just EM\rat specific hardener or warhead rigor.
As alternative - remove caprech for something else, but it's a big hit to capacitor (even though it stays stable)
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>>168481219

Can't reach the 'End Game' within a month. It keeps the common rabble out.
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>>168484676
30% cap is not plenty to spare.
>>168485028
Fit is about as good as a rattle can get short of spending hundreds of millions on blues.
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>muh cap stable
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>capacitor
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>endgame
>cap stable
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>Use rookie ship
>Forever cap stable
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>>168480898
>Want to apply to a corp
>'You need X, Y, and Z to five if you want to have a chance'
>Skill que; 100+ days
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>dont fit things
>forever cap stable
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Is wh.pasta.gg dead?
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>Never undock
>Forever cap stable
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>CEO pays marmite to wardec us to keep line members off hisec.
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>>168486475
that's pretty funny
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>never install eve
>forever cap stable
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>>168486710
How about not touching
>Amarr
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>>168487034
Where did the amarr touch you anon, please show us on this doll
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>>168487125
I hate bigots
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>>168487162
Thats not very tolerant
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>>168485619
More like "anything than early games takes months-year to train for", not even taking about general supporting skills
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>>168480898
>read "blitz missions no trick no sms"
>gonna make retarded pirate mission runner alt like i always wanted! Its not like skills gona be wasted anyways
>if i plan my remaps and plan my training i can shorten learning time by 46 days...
>total time training: 186+ or some days
Good alt, bery good gameplay i have on him. Can't wait to play!
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Rate my corpmates Hunter Astero fit?

I'm assuming he swaps out the probe launcher after scanning down the site.

[Astero, Astero]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer
Small Armor Repairer II

Warp Scrambler II
Warp Scrambler II
Small Capacitor Booster II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive

Light Electron Blaster II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Small Anti-Explosive Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Targeting Systems Stabilizer II

Hobgoblin II x10
Hornet EC-300 x5

Sisters Core Scanner Probe x21
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S x625
Nanite Repair Paste x67
Navy Cap Booster 200 x14
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>>168489370
Don't know anything about pvp but two scrams feel strange.
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>>168488651
And not talking about actually playing the game either

Face it it takes special amounts of autism to enjoy this game's skill system
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>>168489524
two scrams to get stabbed explorers
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>>168489524
Thats good, you need two to catch explorers, since they use warp stabs
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>>168489370
>two armor reps
>no eanm
pls
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>>168489786
when the main/only thing you are fighting that can fight back is another Astero then isn't the rep hp/s better than extra resist because of their lack of Alpha?
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>Thinking of joining new corp
>"After you send your application you will have an interview with one of our recruiters"
N-no thanks
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Well lads this is it. Trading alt made and skill queue set. Time for the light to die out inside me and the Jew to emerge
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>>168490289
But do you have 10+10 standings?
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>>168490190
Resistance is a direct boost to the value of your repair amount

100hp per cycle at a 50% resist would be worth twice as much if you had 75% instead
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>>168490361

I figured the skills would be enough as a start with region trading. Also plan to sell ammo at inflated prices in low sec hubs
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>>168490209
Don't worry, chances are the interviewer won't give a fuck and you'll never get to join despite getting into the queue
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>>168490434
Oh, you're gonna do this thing...i guess standing won't matter that much (or more like, you'd have to level shitload of corporations and fuck up cross-region trading)
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>>168490376
What would you suggest instead for this fit? Swap out the DDA for an EANM
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>>168490579

Yeah I figured .1isking would be even worse than conventional grinding and I'd just quit the game or give up and buy plex
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>>168490663
Yea, jita wars are boring and annoying most of the time but good money...i'd do trading that involves me flying around but im too stupid to do that.

I'd recommend you to do sisters arc with faction you're going to mainly trade though, just free standing with no downside for a little bit of work.
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>>168490596
Naw dda is fine i would just look for something that isnt redundant instead of double rep if you cant fit eanm and dda both
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>>168490751

Can I accept missions on my alt and then blast them with my main?
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>>168490757
Is there an easy way to calculate rep vs resist, something like "Effective rep" w/e?
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>>168490873
no, but sisters arc is 90% warp jumps and flying to container on WMD and you mostly just need to be able to do more than 100 dps in one mission.

But it's not that big of a deal, it's more of a minmax kind of thing.
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>>168490995

I mean just warping my main into the pocket after her and letting drones out in a combat mission. I'll have some basic tank skills but would like to keep 0 other combat skills if possible.
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>>168490983
Yes, just add halves

0 - 50 - 75 - 87.5 and so on, at each of those steps an hp of re becomes twice as valuable
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>>168491081
Oh, you mean doing it with two accounts? Yea you can do it like that.
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>>168491186

Choice. Thanks mate I'll do that
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>>168491154
Do you have a formula for that that could work for figuring out the difference between like 60% vs 83% or something like that?
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>>168491415
not off the top of my head but you could always just calculate how much damage gets through your resist and then compare it
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>Cybernetic Subprocessor Basic
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>>168491545
For reference in the future. http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Eve_Math This stuff is pretty interesting imo
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>>168491789
Its old vidya wisdom that damahe mitigation is a direct multiplier for receieved healing
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>Trying to move 8mil trit to somewhere i can sell it

I have made a horrible mistake.
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yesterday i got into a whormhole without even scanning it, anyone can explain this? i dont even know how to use the probe scanner
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>>168491896
Sure, but without an actual formula it is impossible to weigh the pros and cons of adding hp/s and less resist vs less hp/s and more resist.
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>>168492691
Its perfectly possible, just take your actual resists and compare them to your rep per second
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>>168492876
Doing just a little bit of calculating it seems like with an EANM on the fit I was looking at you would be taking 20.5%-23.5% more damage depending on the type. If you forgo that in exchange for an SAAR you get a 53.6% increase in hp/s (35.2hp/s to 75.8hp/s). Obviously you would have to take into consideration that the SAAR has charges, but it seems to be the better choice if I didn't fuck up the math.
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>>168491936
I had to make 20 contracts to move the minerals I needed to start building one dread, I know how you feel.
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>>168493381
Well it should, since the reload time balances it
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Dock here >>168493934
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>>168431453
Guessing through IP connection count
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