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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, February 12th:
1593 – Japanese invasion of Korea: Approximately 3,000 Joseon defenders led by general Kwon Yul successfully repel more than 30,000 Japanese forces in the Siege of Haengju.
1851 – Edward Hargraves announces he has found gold in Bathurst, New South Wales, Australia, starting the Australian gold rushes.
1912 – The Xuantong Emperor, the last Emperor of China, abdicates.
1921 – Bolsheviks launch a revolt in Georgia as a preliminary to the Red Army invasion of Georgia.


>News
CK2 DD38 - Visiting the Cartographer
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-40-visiting-the-cartographer.998368/

EU4 - 24/01
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-24th-of-january-2017.996110/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

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# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
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>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
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>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
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>>[V2]Africa Mod
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Old Thread >>168073705
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>>168164094
Based
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>35 La Plata posts early
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xth for death of the west
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How do I get good as jewish nomads in 1066
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r8 my Belgium

Congo has been turned into a state and is 10% walloon in all states, it's a plurality in one province too. I've imported thousands of refugees to work in my factories, so far they haven't affected my country too much, they've never exceeded 26% in Brussels.
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>Russia collapsing to chain of rebels
Consider the following
>Political awareness malus until telegraph+radio is researched

Russias very big, so it would be hard to organize a rebellion early on. Their inability to properly position armies cant be helped though.

Not sure if it would fix?
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Is it just me or is the economy in CWE completely fucked?
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>>168164843
you play ethiopian jews in 867 instead
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Is Portugal in Kaiserreich fun? I never see them do anything except get bullyed by Mittelafrika, and sometimes whoever's boss in India/China, and considering their IC/manpower I imagine there's not much else they can do at all

>>168165213
I don't know what CWE is, but considering it's, a) Victoria 2 and b) a mod that adds trade goods I can say with 100% certainty that yes, it's completely fucked
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>>168165402
Isnt playing below 1066 really bad though? Like the world gets all fucked up and awful boarders?
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Alright, I'm a merchant republic as socotra

Time to go messalian and fuck my sister and mother repeatedly.
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>>168165703
border gore is inevitable in ck2
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Does anyone play Sengoku?
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La Plata
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>>168166251
proof that grids are irrefutably the best, aesthetically and efficiently
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>>168165213
why does Argentina start without any oil RGO
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Based Erdogan
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>>168165971
Ironically, just like real life during the time period
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>>168166614
t.urk
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>>168166827
Turks are based
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Hey /gsg/, I'm about to start playing EU4 for the first time. Any suggestions?
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He >>168145671 raises a very important point.
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>>168166915
Do not.
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>>168166915
Have fun.exe
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>>168167038
I can't tell if you're joking or not.

>>168167124
First nation I should play as? I heard I can play as Native Americans and put Europeans in reserves.
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List of currently based countries:
Turkey
Albania
PRChina
White Argentina

List of countries that currently need to be removed:
FYROM
Cyprus
United States
Belarus
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>>168167335
You are the one joking here
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>>168167335
learn the game as europeans, try castille, or portugal for comfy colonizing. then move on to the americas or east asia
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>>168166915
I suggest playing as France. Even with Historical Nations turned on, they are unrivaled in sheer power in the early game. Be wary of alliances when declaring war, don't take too many provinces in the same area in quick succession, and in general pay attention to what the game's telling you. It doesn't 'play itself', but it does hold your hand quite a lot if you let it.
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>>168167414
Agree x 1
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>>168167435
Okay.

>>168167436
Portugal it is, hopefully I'll do good.

>>168167457
>France.
Nice try anon.
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>>168164087
If I were to puppet Mexico and cuck the US out of rightful mexican clay, would it be easier to ally the US itself or the UK?
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>>168167819
>Nice try anon

>Not wanting to play as the world's premier military for over 5 centuries

Enjoy you big blue dicking then, I guess.
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The ingame timeline and the official KR timeline don't match up
South Africa
Part 1

Despite the fierce animosity between our nation and the British Empire we entered the Great War alongside them. Boer angry with our decision to invade German South-West Africa rose in revolt, threatening to tear apart our union. Much of our military was committed with hunting down the elusive Lion of Africa, General Lettow-Vorbeck. As the situation in Europe and the Levant worsened we were forced to ramp up our military efforts in those theatres - often leading to manpower shortages and conscription crises.

The Treaty of 1921 ended the state of war between the Entente and Central Powers and pre-war borders were retained between the remaining Entente states. Fearing German attempts at seizing the colonies Southern Rhodesia entered into the Union of South Africa. The British Revolution in 1925 saw German occupying the British colonies including the entirety of British Africa. The amalgamated Freistaat Mittelafrika, led by Lettow-Vorbeck, made no attempts of invading our nation.

The Right Honourable J.B.M. Hertzog secured a majority in the 1931 General Election as leader of the pro-Boer National Party. Vowing to protect Afrikaner culture he submitted to London a Unilateral Declaration of Independence, immediately withdrawing South Africa from the Entente and establishing a new Republic. Jan Smuts would re-enter politics once again in the 1933 snap election leading the pro-Entente United Party to a minority government.
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>>168168089
>Not wanting to play as Europe's laughing stock.

Well then give me pros and cons as France.
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>>168167819
have fun. remember, everything south or west of you is your rightful clay
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>>168165213
NWO's economy is pretty fucked, but CWE is easymode if you play as a GP. Even with maxed spending and a shitload of -tax efficiency modifiers I was still raking in like 20k monthly as the US.
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would you prevent the french revolution if you could
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>>168168538
Yes
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>>168163668
>mediterraneans
>white
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>on last part of immortality quest
>catch dysentery and die
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>>168168289
Man, that's a boring campaign you chose. 14/88.
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>>168168538
I'd do it again tbqh
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>>168168693
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>168168971
Sorry, I'll go back to shit posting about anime and la plata posting.
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>>168168538
It's an interesting hypothesis. As a National Socialist I reject liberalism greatly but I also oppose the oppression of the working class under reactionism, though ultimately I believe monarchism was more akin to my viewpoints, in regard to social policy and protectionism, so I suppose I would, at least until the advent of Fascism.
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How do I play Sweden in EU4 without waiting 100 years?

No one wants to support my independence early because they all love danish cock
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>>168168338
pros: military is only rivaled by united spain, Austria as HRE emperor, ottomans, russia, PLC

cons: HRE hates you, england hates you, aragon probably hates you, you have no friends in europe

strategy: eat aragon, castile, and portugal until you've gone full french iberia; you are now strong enough to take on the HRE by yourself, so go do that and try to dismantle it
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>>168169160
Nobody here cares about your ebin magic faggotry, what possible enjoyment do you get out of playing as something that couldn't possibly happen? You may as well play as a fucking horse.
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>>168169294
look at denmarks rivals
ask them to support you (hint they almost always will and if they won't, improve relations and they will)

sweden can beat denmark/norway in the 1v1 anyway, find a moment of weakness, but if you really can't find any danish rivals restart
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>>168169604

Every time they have stupid rivals who can't reach me
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>>168170423
How many languages do you know?
Do not start learning another if you didnt master the last one you started learning.
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Is there a mod that dramatically increases AE in the HRE? I'm sick of Bohemia blobbing over all of Saxony and Brandenburg within the first fifty years every game.
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>>168168815
It just crashed on me. I could restart and instead play the Mexican Empire
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>>168168289
Curious which direction you'll take...Boer nationalism, or Entente reintegration?
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this general is getting deder every week
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>>168170423
Yes I did it starting in first form and it was amazing to learn
>>168171680
You're making Bohemia your enemy?
>>168165281
>then why did the victorians fetishise the mediveal era
>You kidding? They shit all over it.
For three fiddy what is Belgium independence
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>>168168289
The official timeline in the wiki? That never gets updated.
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>>168171905
good
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>>168171423
learning a language is a life long process there is no such thing as becoming a master
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>>168172000
Not just that. The thread time line doesn't match up to the pre-game nation select screen text which in turn doesn't match up to the in game event text.
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>>168171821
Play Korea in HPM and utilize steel and military goods, I really want to see somebody turn a tiny Korea into the nation that has a monopoly on the military industrial complex.
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>>168171423
Spanish and English
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>>168172109
>Play Korea in V2
"no"
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Hey lads

I'm that big blue blob, what do I do, now ?
I invade bretonfags, Brugge, England ?

(sorry for this absolutely disgusting quality, it's steam)
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>>168172060
Mastering a language means to be able to hold a conversation in that language and to be able to think in that language and to read and write in that language on a level similar to your native.

>>168172154
Go ahead then.
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>>168172515
Why not?
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>>168169289
>As a National Socialist
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>>168172846
Are there any good books or websites or something? is it hard compared to say, German?
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>>168172978
duolingo
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>>168173247
I tried it for Russian but i didn't like the lack of explanations, i had to check comments to understand some stuff properly. Does it even have Latin?
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>>168172892
Prove me wrong.
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Quality or Quantity for EU4?
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>>168173782
Uninstall
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>>168173368
Duolingo is pretty hands on, you start confused as fuck but suddendly you start getting it
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>>168173782
espionage
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>>168173772
name a successful national socialist country
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>>168173782
Quantity has a quality all it's own
t. napoopan i think
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>>168173856
Um why? Is this not a legitimate question?
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I don't know how people can support monarchies when they look at the inbred Hapsburgs.
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>>168174095

We just need Numonarchy. They started interbreeding too much as a show of power.
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>>168169430
t. person that has probably formed the HRE in EU4

IE Shit that would of never happened anyways.
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>>168174086
EU4 is an objectively bad game and you shouldn't play it.
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>>168174315
>Numonarchy
>Nu
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>>168174319
>implying a HRE that could keep one faith consistently throughout the entire empire wouldn't centralise
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>>168174086
It's a question thats been asked thousands of times, try google.
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>>168174468
But they're all outdated
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>>168174454
>implying a horse that grew wings wouldn't be able to fly

Get what im saying here?
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>>168174454
It probably wouldn't have.
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>>168174407

>Get 50 brave adventureous lads
>go kick in the door of an african dictatorship
>proclaim yourselfs king of the jungle

You kan kall me kangzi
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>>168174620
>people converting is equal to biological impossibilities
hmm
>>168174662
Maybe not, but it's more likely than immortality.
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>>168174680
good post
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>>168173991
>tfw Hitler believed in pitting people against each other and letting the strongest come out on top, only to have his master race BTFO by untermensch and decadent, degenerate democracies
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>>168174821
I'd argue a horse with wings is more likely than a unified europe in that timeframe, because you can staple nonfunctional wings on a horse, but you cant unify an empire that was neither roman, nor holy.
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>>168175131
Didn't that caused the third reich bureaucracy to become a ineffectual, corrupt clusterfuck?
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>>168175606
Yes. It was incredibly disorganized. Hitler didn't even appoint party leaders - he expected these people to just maneuver themselves to the top in stalinesque fashion. One of the often quoted problems was that Hitler was often expecting others to act to please him without telling them what he wanted from them. This means a lot of his advisors were supposed to take descentralized, unilateral actions on what they thought was his interest... which obviously caused problems when they were effectively acting against each other. Considering how much of a Romeaboo he was, he should've known this problem was at least as old as the shared consulates.
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>>168175131
Soviet union was not a democracy.
US was not decadent and degenerate back then.
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>>168175606
It's interesting.
I'm too lazy to haul it off my shelf but in von Manstein's "Lost Victories" he talks about how generals were pitted off against each other and how he pit the OKH, OKL, and OKM against each other under the OKW. His reasoning behind it was to force them to come to him as the arbitrator so that he had final say in all respects.
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>>168175928

>Two theater commanders
>Paris or Moscow
>whoever gets to their target city first gets all the army supplies!

biblethump for schneekrauts
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Goals for gommunist germaniums in vic2?
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How long does it take for the Renaissance institution to spread to Elysia after you do the Civilize decision?
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>>168176776
Lose everything east of the Oder
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>>168176017
>Soviet union was not a democracy.
Indeed
>US was not decadent and degenerate back then.
It most certainly was according to the fuhrer
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>>168177021
I was unironically thinking of doing just modern germany borders
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>>168177419
12 inferiors beat one superior, this would be simple, but you are clearly one of the dozen.
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D-did HPM die?
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>>168177419
that's what he gets for being allies with inferiors
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>>168176776
split your nation in 2 and blob into Poland and Russia with your Eastern part, while the Western should be a Democracy/Fascist state under France
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>>168177419
>beaten by anglo-saxons and german americans
Your point?
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>>168177702
the yanks didn't beat the germans they were only barley able to beat the japs
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>25 Learning Chaplain
>Sitting on a pagan county for literally thirty years
>never converts
>menawhile two of my counties have turned Waldensian

What the fuck
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>>168177851
Aah, yes, I suppose the "10:1" slavs beat them, right?
Russia would have failed big league had the allies not launched D-day.
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>>168177702
lmao
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>>168177659
>inferior allies
>italians are inferior
What were the Romans?
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>>168178331
>Russia would have failed big league had the allies not launched D-day.
Nigga...
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>>168178331
>Russia would have failed big league had the allies not launched D-day.
wehraboos are pathetic
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>>168178460
but they weren't modern italians so it doesn't count :^)

romans were white and germanic :^^)

we wuz imperators :^^^)
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I'm not sure who's baiting who
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>>168178331
it was inevitable after kursk i could buy russia being fucked without lend lease but the western front was a sideshow just like Malaya in the pacific
>>168178460
nothing like modern day Italians in any case he was allies with Romanians who are inferior to every other race on earth.
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>>168178746
>>168178640
>>168178564
Yeah, because they really did well until Britain opened a second front in Italy.
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>>168179184
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_invasion_of_Sicily
>July 9 to August 17

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk
>July 5 to August 23

Didn't do shit, don't even try to say that they influenced Kursk at all because at that point the soviets were in full offense mode.

>Wehraboos actually think Germany had a chance of ever winning
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>>168179184
They faced the full might of the german war machine, survived and counter-attacked. And no; a couple of trucks and ammo given by the allies doesn't change the fact that the germans overextended and got BTFO by Russia.
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>>168179184
The Germans had already lost Stalingrad long before Sicily was even invaded.

Imagine a world where the Italians don't join the war but remain neutral like Spain? The Germans don't ever go to North Africa and they don't have a massive liability on their southern flank.
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>>168179184
By the time Britain (and the USA, mostly the USA) landed Italy, Germany was already fucked in in the east.
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>>168179184
which happened during the battle of kursk which decided the war in the east. all allied operations in the west were a sideshow
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>>168179608
>>168179602
>>168179509
>>168179464
>>168179443
>one battle decides a war
>in ww2
Fucking wew, lads.
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>>168179674
You actually baited me lad, fuck, here's a (You) for the effort
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>>168179674
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>>168179674
Slavs are more into sucking their own dicks than Americans are. Ignore them.
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HOI IV, Kaiserreich Vs Great War. Which is more polished ? Also which is easier? Have a few hundred hours in the main game and am ready for mods.
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>>168179674
It was a large battle with deep strategic implications, albeit Citadel was probably fucked from the get go.
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>>168179912
>>168179776
>>168179767
And even then, the """winners""" lost more men than the """losers""".
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>>168180038
>what is a pyrrhic victory
>just because you lose more men means you are the loser

Do you understand warfare at all fritz?
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>>168180165
>if you kill your enemies they win
Epic.
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>>168180038
should have won the war lad
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>>168178331
>big league
lmao should've known
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>>168180239
There are plenty of examples of subhumans losing more troops but still technically "winning"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_the_Isonzo

But unfortunately since you stopped putting effort into your bait I can't afford to give you any more (You)s.
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>>168180354
>>168180367
>>168180395
The Nazis lost because they were against literally everybody else. And their only ally was a net negative to them.
>inb4 japan
They refused to invade the USSR, despite Germany helping them when the Jews faked the attack on Pearl Harbour.
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>>168180668
>when the Jews faked the attack on Pearl Harbour.
You understand that pretending to be retarded is still retarded, right?
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>>168180668
if they managed to not get BTFO by perfidious Albions air force they could have won lad face it the germans got fucked by shitty allies and poor planing.
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I have a claim on a county held by a vassal of a duke that is my tributary. It says I have a valid CB to attack the vassal, but can't because he's not independent. It says I can't attack the tributary duke because I have no vaild CB.

Is it supposed to be like this?
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>>168181058
shut the fuck up faggot we're talking about ww2
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>>168180915
Yeah, sure, 6,000,000 Americans died there, I know the story.
>>168180957
Planning was perfect, they would have won if not for international jewery.
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>>168181312
>Planning was perfect,
except they left too late not giving them enough time to get to moscow before winter, combine that with hiter ordering guderian to swing south to kiev rather than going straight to moscow tell me that planing was shit and the german high command was riddled with doubt and cowardice.
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>tfw le based trump and putin (w&b christians) are le going to genocide arab t*rks for killing the based greeks
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>>168181854
turks are based though
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>>168181640
Had the operation been launched in spring the ground would still be frozen from winter, Russia is a mainly artic country so there's no "good time" to invade other than than summer, when they did. Secondly, had they pushed straight to Moscow they would be extremely vulnerable to encirclements and extremely overstretched, pushing forward in a uniform fashion was actually another one of Hitler's genius strategies, it was only later in the war when he began listening to traitors did he lose the 6th army.
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>>168182040 (You)
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>>168182447
Prove me wrong.
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>>168182712
>I make a claim
>you have to prove it wrong
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>>168182827
I stated a fact. If, according to you, it is so easily disproven, then what's your issue with doing so?
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>>168182040
frozen ground is good for tanks bruh
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>>168182827
Ever heard of an argument before you fucking autist?
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>>168182970
>>168183053
if it was so successful why didn't it work?
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>>168183034
>sub zero temperature is good for mechanics
I'm not arguing with you dummkopfs anymore, you are speaking absolute idiocy.
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Well lads, rate my North America. Things have gotten interesting since this.
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>>168183205
takes one to know one
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>>168182040
>it was only later in the war when he began listening to traitors did he lose the 6th army.
Nope. Hitler was obsessed with taking Stalingrad so he could pretend Case Blue wasn't a total failure and to feed his own ego, and refused to let Paulus attempt a break out of the pocket when it became obvious that the globbed together relief force under Manstein(blessed be that wonderful narcissist) couldn't punch through the soviet forces(while a lot of german generals actually did supported the idea of keeping Paulus forces in the city at first, most drew it back when it soviet resistance proved to be tougher than expected).
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>>168183093
I already said, because the Jewish media, politics, and finance united the entire world against it to support their deranged view of what the world should look like.
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>>168183340
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>>168183209
I'm ashamed to say I was overrun by the communists on their 3rd attempt to overthrow our glorious west coast republic. I had encouraged a lot of socialist loyalty because I liked the looks of California's socialist party but it backfired pretty hard. No more immigrants for awhile :(
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>>168183403
Did you get all these from lefty/pol/, comrade?
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>>168183567
I made most of them (^:
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>>168183205
gasoline is flammable down to -40
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>>168183631
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>>168183682
>pours gas on frozen pistons
>"grr why isnt it working"
When did you graduate as a mechanic, lad?
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>>168183403
thanks for this anon i'm going to go shitpost with it
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>>168183631
>no credible evidence
>not objective

lol, that's where you're wrong kiddo

>>168183780
pistons are already in a solid state bro, you can't freeze them more
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>>168183631
Most of these are based entirely off of misconceptions, see the "but you claim to hate socialism" one, National Socialists don't do that at all, you're confuaing them with reactionaries.
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>>168183881
Most of them are relying pretty heavily on the "/pol/ is one person" meme desu
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>>168183631
>no credible evidence at all
inb4 iq is a social construct
>inb4 6 year old kenyan children not being able to identify themselves from their reflection is institutionalised racism
You're clearly a leftist faggot, why not accept certain races are inherently inferior and become a national socialist?
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>>168181854
putin isn't based though
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r8 my Europe

I'm gonna edit CWE to be less cancerous in the future, removing the capital only migration for all pops, retarded decisions like the one that lets North Vietnam take a decision to fight against communism and ally the USA day one, and make some decisions actually possible, the modder removed an invention that most of the EU decisions require, making it impossible to do anything with.
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>>168183783
no worries m8 have another
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New After the End when?
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guess the year: mughals edition
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>>168183093
>Nazi Germany
>Socialist
I take it North Korea is a democratic people's republic as well?
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>>168184978
8561?
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>>168184742
>modder removed an invention that most of the EU decisions require, making it impossible to do anything with

Fuck I'm retarded, that invention was moved instead of being removed, it's still there, the rest still stands though
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>>168184085
If having higher IQ makes a race superior, why don't national socialists worship jews?
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>>168184978
1836
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>>168184742
What the fuck is that italian bosnia?
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>>168184998
I liked the other ones, but that one is just dumb. Hitler was specifically, vocally, openly against bolshevism. Fighting communism was like 50% of his appeal to most Germans.
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How can anyone go on /pol/ these days? That board is nothing but an endless cringefest:

>le epic crusader threads
>le personality cult threads
>le brown people designated self-hate threads
>le persecution complex threads
>unironic 'le losing my faith in humanity' threads in 2017
>pretty much any thread made by north american flags

Truly a cesspit.
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>>168185221
Because they are physically inferior, same reason we don't worship Japs. Whites possess the perfext mix of physical strength and intelligence, most races possess one or the other.
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>>168185221
white people are more intelligent than jews even though jews have a higher IQ (same goes for asians)

also black people are less intelligent than whites because whites have a higher IQ
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>>168185021
this isn't the stellaris gen
>>168185270
>1836
>in eu4
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>>168184978
Why would the Mughals go for China before taking all of India?
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>>168185278
Obviously not Italy (not the same color) - I'm guessing Bosnian Serbs
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>War in the East is still being updated
Holy FUCK. Gary really is /ourguy/
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>>168184978
january 23rd, 2438 a.u.c.
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>>168181854
>Trump
>Genociding turks when they're in NATO and didn't even get banned from the US
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>>168185476
>turn based
heh, sorry lad, wrong thread
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Guess I better fight global warming


>>168185278
Yeah, Italy went crazy on Croatia after Tito died. Bosnia itself kind of just disintegrated though
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>>168185376
>nazi math
>it just werks!
kek
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>>168185439
Combination of early Mingsplosion meaning a lot of cores were gonna expire early 1600s, and a metric fuckton of AE in India.

Also, truce timers.
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>>168185586
global warming is the wickedness of the 21st century
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MEIOUUUU AND TAAAXXXEESSS WHEN???????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OSbub4zH_M
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>>168183403
Jews are only white if you think all Caucasoids are white, in which case this woman is also white.
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Jews are not white
Turks are based and white
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>When it takes the entire world to defeat epiq grossgermania

#JustTalexThings
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>>168186368
>purple Netherlands
Sure thing, Rob, this totally looks like unmodded HPM.
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>>168186497
I did a meme game as old burgundy a week or two ago
I never bothered changing it back
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>>168184978
02/21/1685
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>>168186142
Just imagine if you were assigned to "scrub her clean" by a naïve European colonel who believes she's simply a dirty white person. You could make an entire blog about it.
>Ethiopian Adventure: Chapter 3
>Though it had communally been agreed the colonel's policy of "scrubbenclein" would not work by the unit, the lads were still eager to keep up the ruse for our CO. Including making the most affeminate member of our corps, a rather queer fellow, note down the times and intensity of our administering of the "cleaning ritual" on the natives, with one Sergeant noting "If her Tits aren't white as snow by now they never will be"
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>>168186239
Jews are whiter than Turks though. compare them side by side
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Is the Africa mod compatible with HPM?
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>>168187141
Are we describing how the Italians should have colonized Eastern Africa instead of just putting the girls naked on motorycles and taking pics?
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>>168187283
proof?
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>>168187424
nsfw senpai
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>>168187561
i need this
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>>168187593
I googled italian colonialism motorcycle pic and found one
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>>168186142
Notice how this one looks just like a poo.
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Is the Africa mod compatible with unHPM?
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>>168188452
Go ask steamcordplaza.
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Any tips for claiming Grand Belgique?
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>>168188971
Why? Because I don't play with HPM?

Truth is, I genuinely can't stand HPM. I really can't. It's the most autistic, pointless mod a person could actually find "entertaining". The idea that you think it's hilarious wasting hours of your "life" trying to integrate Wallonia into France and failing speak numbers about how lonely and pathetic you must be to get entertained doing this

It probably seems counter productive for me to write this, because HPM genuinely makes me angry. It seems like it's near impossible to have a genuine discussion about it on this board without some fuckwit chiming in to say something stupid like "trob" or "treed" or "b-but there are no better mods".

I know that this will probably get a bunch of you stupid cunts replying to me calling me the "autistic" one for actually speaking up, because I genuinely want to have a discussion about something instead of being barraged with retarded responses that will no doubt have me reply to you about your stupid pointless comments.

This thread is largely pointless because you all seem to shill for free so no matter what you'll continue your shit posting like it's some normal part of your everyday life.

The fact that anyone ever calls you out on your bullshit and you try and defend it, or continue replying in a shit posting fashion is childish as fuck considering most of you on here are at least 18-30 years old.

Fuck all your HPM shilling antics. Kill yourselves. You're not funny, or witty, or original, or entertaining or even informative. You're literally all pathetic beings who don't even get a paycheck for it. Your pathetic "lives" while you sit here day in and day out shilling for a brazilian are being wasted away because you find it hilarious to get people to play a shitty mod. It's like you cunts are addicted to HPM. Like you get a dopamine response from it or something.

Rant over cunts. Fuck off.
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yeehaw
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>>168189002
get annexed into Netherlands
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>>168189089
Nice copypasta, you fucking shitter, now get back.
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>>168189207
See? If you can only resort to shitposting you must be a severely autistic and obsessed NEET. You seriously need to be euthanized. Fuck you.
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How do you guys get mp to work? My friends and I are trying to get it to work using Evolve but we can't seem to get it to work.
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Dumb question but how do I install Geheimnisnacht for CK2?
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>>168189559
This is for Victoria 2
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>>168189608
>>unHPM defended Alex when he got doxxed, but Alex did not return the favour when his friendly rival got doxxed.
UnHPM got doxxed?
Also, using a picture does not constitute a doxx.
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Seriously, how the fuck do you play Iberia in HPM? I get to around 1836 then HPM declares war to not let me form and my ally, whether it be AFPG or Cobra, either refuses to join or peaces me out of the war as soon as the map loads, resulting in a game over.
Of course, if I ally with Rob I get absolutely nothing done because he's a shitty fucking memer who never wants to help me reclaim my cores from HPM.
What's the point of playing a nation if it doesn't exists, ¿to be swallowed by HPM's big sticky arguments 0 years into the game? Is the only way to form Iberia in Vicky to release it from one of the mods holding its cores?
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>>168189784
Yes, he was doxxed by Doxxlad, a notorious shitposter who did HPM's dirty job of smearing and kicking out rivals for him.
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are we being steamcordplayed
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are we being talex'd?
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>>168189089
I unironically agree with this post
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>>168185998
I've never played M&T but it would seem tall play is a lot more interesting in it, should I try it?
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Steamcordplaza is based and white

London-to-Basra is the only acceptable european empire.

GO ULM!
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Who is the comfiest nation?
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>>168190502
France, after you expel the englishmen.
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>>168189089
90% of this fucking board is total shitposts. No one can have any kind of legitimate discussion here because of all the "t.alex" or "t.steamcordplaza" autists. This general is dying and has been for a while.
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>>168190402
wait for 2.0
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>>168190627
It's good when we're not being raided by steamcordplaza. They've laid off for a while, but I think now HPM is posting again they're scared.
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>>168190870
based r&i, ever vigilant
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Is it possible to cure the homosex in CK2
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>>168190870
Feels like they've been raiding more than ever tbqh. I will never understand what they get out of raiding.
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>>168191164
Literally why have you restarted this campaign? This place was paradise when you afforded us some respite.
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>>168191304
Sadly no. You're gonna eat that fertility penalty.
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>>168191323
i mean no harm
mine is a religion of peace
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>>168191321
Really? Meh, it might just be (South) American hours.
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>>168191323
The best this place ever got was around last year, with the hype from Stellaris and HoI4 in full force and the shitposting about how bad it was going to be was everywhere. We went through 2-3 threads a day then, and it was actually decent shitposting, not pasting liquor onto a pic. Before then I can't really say, it seemed better, but that might just be nostalgia,

As soon as we lost our modders in the summer, and then the gruppe in the fall everything went to shit. I guess without a "gruppe" everyone shitposts even more, which is actually pretty ironic.
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>>168191304
Homosexual is pretty much the most useless trait in CK2. There are not much event associate with homo trait. And it's like you play as normal people with some fertility malus.
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>>168191641
>hype

And by hype I mean pure, unadulterated excitement about how hard it was going to crash, nobody was happy for it.
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>>168191641
Stellaris and HoI4 releases were pretty cancerous, loads of redditors claiming they were real grand strategy. /gsg/ prevailed though, and the formed got exiled to /4xg/ and the latter is either entirely abandoned or ridixuled greatly for being the redditor's choice of GSG.
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>>168191773
At least Stellaris is going to be on par with EU4 now when Utopia comes out
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They forgot to put /twg/ back up after it got archived.

Mind if I stay with you guys for a moment? I played a bit of EU3...
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>>168190870
Can confirm, HPM scares me!
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>>168191531
Maybe, who knows. It's just frustrating and annoying, but you can't say that cause then the trolls will think they win. Doesn't help that no one's been posting anything interesting recently.
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>>168185586
>41.47M
How?
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>>168191914
Just make the thread, you cuck
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>>168192104
There's been a lot of EU4 games, which is okay, it's not like HoI3 or V2 but at least it's something.
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>>168191850
>>/4xg/
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>>168192376
Yeah but they haven't been terribly good honestly.

Not hating on EU4 just stating what I've felt.I've actually started playing EU4 again and it's been fun.
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What should I play?

>Imperial
>Norscan
>Brettonian
>Vampire
>Greenskin
>Dwarf
>Chaos follower
>Beastman
>Skaven

And of course give recs if you think somewhere specific.

Filthy elves are NOT an option. Bel-Hathor is not my king.
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>>168172593
Stabalize the realm of France
Then
Establish dominance over the English
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>>168192669
Imperial
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>>168192524
What was wrong with them?
t. italy and saxony anon
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>>168192669
I would definitely advise you to consider Fucking right off.
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>>168193071
Why tho
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>>168191827
I still miss the activity right before release, so much of it compared to now, I miss it tbf, no more good campaigns, that might actually be the problem, but whenever somebody starts a campaign for the sake of "bringing activity" to gsg it's usually shit.

>>168192104
I agree here, you can't win with shitposters, the best you can do is ignore them, but recently they just don't give up.

>>168192916
Not him but for me it's the lack of a lot of RP options in ways that make an AAR interesting, Vic2 has this problem as well, but less so. There's only so many times you can RP peacetime, it's pretty boring unless you're a colonizer and even then it's rather dull.
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>>168192669
Talabecland
Become a vampire when the opportunity presents itself
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>>168192916
Nothing really, personally I just didn't find them interesting. Except for the Saxony one, that was pretty cool.

>>168193193
It's difficult to ignore them when it's fucking constant. It's not even funny in an ironic way what they're doing.
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>>168193145
I just really hate fantasy crap.
>>168193193
If you mean in terms of my narration style, I did try to do that, but it wasn't received particularly well, see: >>167346569 >A SINGLE FUCKING (YOU)
If you mean in terms of the game, yeah, it's pretty lackluster. There are policies and such but it's not the same as vicky where you make decisions based on opinion, such as whether to encourage soliders or craftsmen, it's entirely objective in whether or not it will help you. The closest thing they have to a decision is policies, which cost you mana and give you a modifier in return, which is admittedly one of it's better features, but even that has no depth and is a simple trade off.

Honestly, I don't know why those plebs still buy this shit, Paradox hasn't been good since DH and they didn't even make that. Between how shit the games hve been and their "gotta catch 'em all" DLC policy I wish they'd just collapse.
the free market has failed grand strategy
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r8 my scandinavia

current goal is conquering all of britannia, after that idk
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>>168193639
totally EPIC norse blob bro!
norse scandanavia in ck2 is on par with grossgermania in v2
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>>168193494
None of the content posters ever get replies, and shitty bait gets a ton of (You)s constantly, really makes you think.

Man, I really hate this place, the fact that it actually used to be "good", or at least not that shitty, makes me hate it even more. It doesn't really feel too long ago when this place wasn't this bad, and sometimes I just come here in the false hope that something will have changed
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>>168193630
>>A SINGLE FUCKING (YOU)
I'm sorry lad I was out at the time.

>>168193851
>spoiler
Join me in my pain t. 2004fag from /a/
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>>168193797
In how racially purely aryan and subsequently intellectually and physically superior it is?
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>>168193639
Pomeranian coast obviously.

>>168193851
I don't always reply to posts that I like cause just saying "nice!" is fucking cringy so I guess just keep posting. I've posted for several images with no replies, at least I was adding quality content. I have this general open constantly, always waiting for it to become good again. I should probably contribute more but I'm not that good tbqh.
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>>168193630
I mean that in game terms, there's not much to RP in peacetime. Even in your linked post It mostly talks about peace treaties and wars, Eu4 is a pain to do AARs with, the redditors who eat them up are delusional. The best ones for RO are DH for events, HoI3 for war, and CK2 for characters and story.
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>>168194014
You know full well why they're equivalent
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>>168194073
>RO
?
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r8 my Europe
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>>168194280
In how they're both genetically predetermined to excel in warfare, technological advancement and raping busty French maidens they are?
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>>168194395
Jesus christ that Poland
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tfw Mongols annex all of Byzantine
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>>168194047
>>168193851
Question of taste, lads, do you consider historical discussion to be viable content? I remember when this place was essentially proto-/his/, only instead of spergy /int/tards it had decent discussion, I greatly prefered it then, as the conversation always stayed pertinent to the games ans their time periods in a round about way. I remember specifically having a long conversation about Mussolini here with a guy, this must have been a year or more ago, but it was just an enjoyable experience generally. I really miss what this place has been come since the formation of the discords and the creation of /his/.
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>>168194395

Center Europe is a mess. And you're a failure as Prussia.
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>>168194047
>spoiler
Part of making gsg good comes from us, don't feel forced to throw out a (You), but at the same time, if they ask for a r8 or suggestion, don't be afraid to answer them. Even something as small as replying "post pops" can mean a lot to a poster, letting them know that somebody cares, even if just a little, about their shitty blob. /gsg/ is dead because the people and constant AARs that made it what it was have left. We may never get back the gsg we had before, but every piece of content is a small step in recapturing it.
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>>168192497
Except if you knew anything about the game you'd know Utopia is actually making Stellaris more of a gsg
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>>168194679
I thought I did okay for the limits I set
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This is absolutely fucking stupid.
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>>168194650
There's not a whole lot to discuss without bringing history in except for constantly sperging out about PDox's fuck-ups, so historical discussion is almost always good.

>>168194690
Very true.
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>>168194690
>Even something as small as replying "post pops" can mean a lot to a poster, letting them know that somebody cares, even if just a little, about their shitty blob.
Every single V2 game gets a "post liquor" from steamcordplaza faggots.

Honestly, at this stage is it still the steamcord or is it reddit migrants who find repetitive humour hilarious? We've also had an influs of comtards recently, so I'm inclined to believe it's reddit. Unless of course we're being raided by all three, which would explain how it's always so horrific.
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>>168194901
The overlap between here and reddit is much larger than you think lad. It's almost definitely the steamcord posting those liquoria shitposts though
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>>168194859
>not wanting to fuck then devour your sister-wife
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>>168194761
Is gross Brandenburg your vassal?
You should integrate them and release them as a "west Prussia" client state.
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>>168194690
Every time I post anything people tell me to go to paradoxplaza so I dont bother.
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>>168194650
History discussion is always good in my book. I remember when a theology "major" talked about the religions in CK2 for a few hours, and it was some very interesting stuff. I especially like little comments too. Somebody commented on how becoming German culture as the Obitrites (Or some other slav dynasty in Mecklenburg) would just be continuing their betrayal to the slavs, and it made me interested enough to read up on them.
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>>168195048
Don't let that disappoint you, unless it's something really common or annoying (random non gimmicky blob or Germany) it's good content. Don't let the shitposters get to you, just remember that some people appreciate any game here. unless it's a shitty eu4 Prussia
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>>168195031
Nien, I wish I thought of surrogate blobbing in Europe. I only intended to do Ireland (Who disappointingly cannot form Ireland as a subject), but I didn't think of it until the end. In another playthrough I would definitely try some stuff like that.
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>>168195006
I don't mind the redditors who integrate, I really don't, it's the faggots posting HoI4 unironically and that one fucking PR shill who keeps spamming about how great MEIOU2 will be.

No, it will be fucking shit, it's developers are SJW kikes who "removed" the ability to gas natives, but kept the button there, because in their cuxkshed fantasy they honestly think anyone who doesn't vot democrat will keep smashing that button and say "duh why his no work.. do i have virus..", if they wanted to remove the fucking feature becaue it offended them they should have fucking removed the button, the Euros didn't even gas North America, they died of diseases, but of course, "denying the american holocaust" is a hate crime in their fucking meme mod, not to mention the whole thing lags like no fucking tomorrow because it's so fucking bloated you'd need a NASA supercomputer to similate a century.

Where the fuck did I leave my ritalin?
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how long will it stay fun when monks and mystics is out?

I just wanna be an immortal antichrist in a satanic cult and see how that goes
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>>168195278
>or Germany
Why does everyone hate Germany? It's worse than lefty/pol/ here.
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>>168195413
I think it's more of a matter of literally everyone has done it, and has seen it thousands of times, and isn't interested in seeing it anymore.
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>>168195312
need any?
>>168195413
why would you hate germany before
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>I just wanna be an immortal antichrist in a satanic cult and see how that goes
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>>168195483
before the kebabs came
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>>168195331
I actually enjoy this progressively more silly stuff for CK2. Am I alone in this? It's low enough fantasy to where it's not completely jaunting to my experience.
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>>168195312
I don't think anyone is posting that abortion of a gs unironically. M&T 2.0 is gonna underwhelm everyone.

>>168195413
Cause it's just not original. Unless you're doing something interesting or unique with it, don't post it.

Doesn't the infopic say something about that?
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>>168195413
Everyone has done it and it's very rare when it's interesting. Usually by the time you form it you can literally take on the entire world and win. If you have a gimmick, like Catholic, Mass Colonialist, Communist, or some other form of Germany then it might be interesting, but normal Germany is just boring.
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>>168195583
even if you have gank stats it's hard to become immortal without cheating, if you per chance even get the event
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>>168195583
No, I absolutely hate it. I only play with historical settings on, Aztecs, matrilineal marriage, satanic cults, immortality, horses, it can all fuck off. I play it as a feudal dynasty simulator, not a disgrace to the genre.
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>>168195029
Well I ate her because I figure I'm going to die soon anyways and got diarrhea.
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Glad to see they're adding ways to convert culture faster in ck2 when the new DLC comes out with the new Steward ship administer realm job
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>split everything up into counties at game start for a memetastic run
>christian rulers endlessly declare holy wars and lose
>Catholicism sitting at 0% MA because lmao -69% from holy wars
>literally cannot convert counties because it's so low (17 learning has 0.2% chance to convert yearly)

Fuck sake
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>>168195790
Thats the best part though, you can disable all the ahistorical stuff and it doesnt even effect your ability to get cheevos.
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>>168195954
Yeah, but this new expansion has no worth to me, it's like sunset invasion all over again.
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Why does HoI3 have literally no post war mechanics?
>hey look, i won bararossa
>time to autistically split it into ebin reichskommisariats
>oh wait, i cant do that, i can only fully conquer or puppet
>haha what a swell game
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>>168196004
aren't there are like 3 different mods that cater to exactly what you want?
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>>168196302
Because it's literally a WWII simulator
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>>168196317
>aren't there are
hmm
Anyway, my point is I don't want them focusing on fantasy bullshit. I don't mind satanist LARPs, but if you actually summon the devil then it's shit, as you can't do that IRL.
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>>168196302
They tried to fix this with the HoI4 peace treaty system but actually made it worse because of how autistically the algorithm gives nations points and how stupidly the AI picks where to take land.
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>>168196450
Show me where in WW2 the Nazis were going to have directly control everything from Elhaß-Lothringen to kamchatka.
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>>168196453
Its honestly kinda sad that you're just focusing against the one part of the DLC with the Satanism. For one I'm most excited with that they're bringing assassins back with the societies as well as the new jobs for councilors.
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>>168173782
Both. Quantity first and then quality for the CA/discipline (5% for the capstone and another 5% if you take economic ideas and get the policy "Weapon Quality Standards")
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>>168196607
It's clearly a major part of it, see dark power mana. Stop defending paradox, you reddit scum.
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What a way to find out I've been cucked.
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>>168196738
Sorry but its actually a minor part of it if you actually look at everything that's included.
http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Monks_and_Mystics
It just happens to be the most controversial part of it.
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>>168196864
>Sorry but
Please try to make it less obvious you're straight from >>>/r/paradoxplaza.
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>>168196971
Mentioning reddit doesn't strengthen your argument at all, it just shows you're a trolling shitposter whose ran out of any sense.
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>>168196771
I like that the only option is to let the guy that made you a cuckold grieve at your wife's grave.
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>>168197052
Your use of reddit phrases is damning, but the fact you didn't deny them proves it.
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>>168197165
It's 2017, time to grow up and realize that reddit isn't all that bad as everyone makes it out to be. I'm sure most of the people here browse both anyway, like I do.
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>>168197226
>It's 2017
[CURRENT YEAR]
>reddit isn't all that bad as everyone makes it out to be.
Top fucking kek.
>I'm sure most of the people here browse both anyway, like I do.
Just you, pal.
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>>168197396
desu thats pretty tame compared to what some of the people on here write about.
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>>168197056
To be fair I'm the one that killed her

She was beyond breeding age and I wanted to marry my fresh 16 year old daughter with genius.
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>>168197396
reminder Trump posted on Reddit, not 4chan
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>>168197909
Yes, because posting on /pol/ would go down real well with the (((MSM))).
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>>168197396
Laddo that ain't shit compared to what /d/ blogs about on a regular basis

>>168197226
>I'm sure most of the people here browse both anyway, like I do.
What you fail to realize is that it doesn't matter whether or not the site itself is bad, you just can't act like reddit on 4chan because you're not on reddit.
Also I've unironically never been to reddit outside of links and google search results.

>>168197909
>>168197962
Who cares about where Trump posts? You're not on reddit so don't post like you are.
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>>168198336
>Also I've unironically never been to reddit outside of links and google search results.
t. google searches "reddit.com" every single day
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>>168198336
You're right, we should all get back to liquor and bureaucrats and posting our gross germanium spams instead.
Feels good to be a /gsg/er
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Why is EU4 complete shit in comparison to EU3?

Where they just trying to market to casuals?
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>>168198464
Can't even concieve of not going on reddit every day huh?

>>168198481
Maybe post about some actual content.
>AFPG left for 6 months
>HPM is kill
If nobody steps up then we're literally kill.
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>>168198481
If this post isn't proof the redditors are the ones shitting up the general with liquor memes then I don't know what is.
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>>168198663
Its a bit of a stretch to blame reddit for something that has been lasting over a year.
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This thread is stuck in some kind of 2007 mentality where its US VS THEM.
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>>168198613
>Where they just trying to market to casuals?

A few years ago I heard this strange theory and it got me thinking, now I know it to be true.
Games are intentionally dumbded down but not just for profit.
It is complicated. Social engineering on a large scale and trough many forms.
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Rename /gsg/ to /gag/ when?
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>>168198742
The so-called reddit era starts in 2012 according to the memechart but whatever it's a shitty meme chart.

>>168198916
Is this the current year meme again? Us vs. Them has been around since forever. The entire point of Lurk Moar is to make sure that even if you're Them you don't act like Them.

>>168198613
Because it's easier to sell. EU4 for newcomers seem to be of the same depth as EU3 and with its shinier graphics is more appealing. It rode the wave of popular strategy games like Civ V and TWS2 that made strategy games and gaming in general normalized instead of nerdy. This means a huge potential new market opened up.
As a business Paradox did nothing wrong because they made money and a company really only cares about its bottom line. As a game developer, well...I guess you can make the argument that EU4, even as a sequel to EU3, was not the same game as EU3 so changes were to be expected. it's still shit though
If only they got rid of the fucking hardcoded trade system, mana can be more or less detached with effort and events but the trade system is just built the fuck in
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>>168199165
grand anime general?
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>>168199478
Yes
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>>168196771
>>168197582
Yes, that's perfect. As if some barely legal girl is depressed that her first and last lay ever will be with some old fart, he's also a crazy cannibal with diarrhea who ate his last wife.

Husband of the fucking decade. Surely this won't make conversion of Arabs back to Christ any more difficult.

>>168198336
>Laddo that ain't shit compared to what /d/ blogs about on a regular basis
>implying /d/ tolerates cuckolding

/d/'s greatest adoration is vanilla, you know.
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>>168199614
>/d/'s greatest adoration is vanilla, you know.
Vanilla isn't even technically allowed on /d/ because that belongs on /h/. And yes, NTR and its derivatives are /d/ material.
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>>168199817
By vanilla, I meant with /d/ content, but ultimately vanilla in nature. Nothing is more deviant than true love.

Either /d/ has gone downhill recently or you haven't been to /d/ much if at all. Cucking and cheating are abhorrent.
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>>168199958
They're abhorrent but that doesn't mean it isn't one of the main things /d/ is meant to accept
NTR is hated by basically the entire site besides probably /soc/ and [r9k].
And /d/ has a lot of rape too from what I recall.
>nothing is more deviant than true love
Well yeah.
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Where do I download ROBMOD?
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>>168164087
How fucky would things get by bringing my CK2 Roman Empire I brought into EU4 into Victoria 2?
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>>168201374

What does Roman Empire in Viccy 2 look like?
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The Jerries are at it again lads, looks like two beatings weren't enough

What should I do
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>>168201426
I don't know. That's what I'm worried about. It's not even that unreasonable.
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>>168201374
very. CK2 -> EU4 might not be bad but the move to V2 will be disgusting, unless you clean it up of course

>>168201426
pic related
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>>168201515
>two beatings weren't enough
You know what you need to do
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>>168201720
forgot pic
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any good lewd mods for ck2?
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>>168201825
You had all of CK2 and EU4 and didnt take Germany?
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>>168201825

Whats wrong with that pic?
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>>168201374
>>168201825
also when I converted my EU4 Rome to V2 it did some fucky stuff to pop cultures. Province culture doesn't seem to matter with the conversion (french provinces that had Roman culture got French pops), most of northern Germany got noculture, accepted cultures seemed random, it made my primary culture North Italian, and it inttroduced a few weird cultures like Neo-Italian. It also changed my capital to Rome when it was Constantinople

>>168202002
this was just EU4->V2, no CK2 involved

>>168202078
nothing, he asked what Rome looks like in V2
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African religion has to be the most frustrating thing in the universe to reform.

Between getting enough authority and enough piety its a headache.

I'm scared of taking any more provinces because I don't want umayyad near me, and I lost a war when one of the little nigs I was eating called in egypt.
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>>168197909
Trumpcucks need to go back as well.
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What influences voting in Tanistry? For some reason everyone now wants my 1 year old grandson to be the next king, rather than one of my three landed sons. My current character is like 65 years old, I don't want to be stuck with a 15 year regency because my family is retarded.
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>>168174007
>>168173782
>https://www.quora.com/Who-said-Quantity-has-a-quality-all-its-own
A shit tonne of people apparently

Also always go quality for less upkeep
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>>168174095
>implying I don't want close bloodties to stop wars
It worked fine until Willy had his autistic fit
>>168174319
I'm not the type of guy who forms Germany or Persia, but if the 30 years war had been a success for catholics and Charles had captured Luther rather than let the Saxons keep him then there's a high chance it could have become centralised. Just wondering do you autistically screech about GB forming whilst Scotland is still colonising
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>>168173782
>>168204371
>quality
>less upkeep
Got that backwards kiddo, quantity gives you less upkeep.

And Quantity is just objectively superior, larger armies are more flexible than smaller ones and you don't waste ideas on the shitty naval ones thrown in. "muh attrition" isn't even an argument either because you could just split up the army and one of the ideas gives you less attrition anyway.

>quality fags will defend +5% durability and +10% naval morale
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>>168175237
>he voltaire shitposts but forgets to mention the empire part
Also a unified europe is different to a centralised HRE
>>168175606
>>168175131
Not ineffectual just more like a feudal court than a moodern civil service, because Hitler was just that much of a fetishist, look at him talking about HRE borders and reforming Burgundy for example
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>>168195583
It's good for me because I literally only use CK2 as either GoT simulator to conquer Westeros under Stannis or to fap using the Dark World mod.
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>>168203034
So close yet so far away
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>>168178315
>expecting Chaplains to convert to their faith and not convert them to his
>>168178331
>russia would have lost without D-day
D-day only happens because Africa was starting to clean up and Hitler was now offering peace terms to the soviets, showing Hitler was starting to lose it all
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>>168178460
>I play ck2 and know that ital is the kingdom of the lambords but will ignore this for the sake of a shitpost
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>>168204942
>expecting Chaplains to convert to their faith and not convert them to his
what the fuck are you trying to say here mate
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>>168204882
based africa declared a holy war on me. West African Reformation here we come.

Also Denmark managed to reform Germanic.
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>>168206227
Time to turn around and begin the purging of the Mali area.

Thinking of swapping to muslim just to revoke all titles, and redistribute them properly, then swapping back
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>>168206421
Congrats, now you can enjoy your desert in peace.
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>>168204591
To be fair to Quality, it's nice for stacking discipline later in the game. IIRC you get +5% for finishing the tree and another +5% from the "Weapon Quality Standards"policy (if you also have completed Economic Ideas).
In older versions of the game I think you could stack it even more if you also had Religious Ideas and got the Military Zeal Act, but it looks like that's been changed now (it used to give +2.5% discipline and +10% morale of armies but now gives +5% morale of armies and +10% siege ability)

>>quality fags will defend +5% durability and +10% naval morale
The naval policies are complete garbage. The land unit buffs are nice but I personally don't see these as a particularly strong draw for the group. Rather, I see Quality as a sort of "min-max" idea group where you're using it with very specific other idea groups and possibly national ideas to maximize troop strength.
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>>168193639
>the back of scandinavia is under waterin the mediveal era
you learn somehing new every day
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>>168194395
>clarinade hasn't formed Ireland
>prussia has that few provinces
>naples isn't spain
Show Austrian allainces
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>>168206531
I plan on conquering the other side of the continent as well, then create the Africa Empire.


However can someone explain exactly how gavelkind words?

I figured all of my Ducal titles would be split up, but shouldn't they all be under the kingdom inheritance? Especially in the de jure area of the kingdom. I'm fairly confused.
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>>168204591
>less upkeep means less total cost rather than having to use less units for the same effect
EBIN meme fren
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>>168207048
Burned all my prestige and piety, probably too much, Next time umayyad attacks, I might not be so lucky.
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Someone explain this to me. Austria has had 70% of its provinces not catholic for at least five years now and now they only have one catholic one remaining which is about to flip and yet they are not getting any religious rebels. I even paid 150 shekels to support them but they have a ridiculously low chance to rise up.
Is this just the ai cheating?
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>>168207949
Yes
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>>168207949
AI is putting all of their military power into surpressing the rebels
And please don't tell me you're proddy yourself
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redpill me on japan in eu4, which set of ideas do they use if I play as Japan, can I form colonial nations in the Americas, and how do the new daiymos form. Also should I unify japan or leave people to be 1PM
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How do I restore my duchies to their de jure territories?

The Duchess of Munster holds the county of Kildare, and I want to put the country into the Duchy of Tara, where it belongs.

I assume "Transfer Vassalage" is the correct way, but the Duchess of Munster has Kildare as a county title, so do I have to take it off her first? Or should I give the Duchy of Tara to her?

Is there any way to do it without revoking titles left and right and reorganising the Kingdom from the ground up?
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>It's a every nomadic country is allied with one or another and have infinite manpower episode
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>>168210817
>it's a freakin rerun
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Rate my Germany
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EU Rome > CK2 > EU4 > V2 > HOI3 > Stellaris
when?
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>That feeling when bored of GS games

I dont even know what to do anymore.
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>>168212819
IKTF anon. Started playing Elder Scrolls Online
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>>168212819
Shitpost in /twg/ until you get banned
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>>168166251

Explain this maymay
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>>168212948

>twg
>be Hannibal
>take 8 years to march from Carthago Nova to the alps
>need reinforcemnts
>troops spend 3 years in the mediterranean on their way to Arretium
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>>168213995
Quality keep it up
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>>168213995
> when the elephants come through the alps
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r8 my borders
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Hi /gsg/.

I'm trying to get into EU IV again after a few years (played without expansions for a short time and played CK2 extensively).

I'm wondering which expansions are essential/recommended and which ones would just clutter gameplay and provide too many options.

Ty in advance.
>>
Aaaaaaaaaaa fuck you paracucks EU4 is so shit now
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>>168214860
Essential are Art of War, Common Sense, and in my opinion Rights of Man. Mare Nostrum is shit, and El Dorado and Conquest of Paradise are useless if you aren't going to colonize
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>>168214723
Reminds me of EU3, just needs austria/bohemia blobbing to China due to hordes and you're done
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NEW DD

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-41-secret-religious-cults.999496/
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THE CLASH OF THE TITANS
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>>168216040
Who cares
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>>168216040
Neat
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>>168216475
this guy at least>>168216481
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>>168216040
Jesus christ just when I though things couldn't get any fucking stupider
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>>168216040
>religions are finally hidden and not something binary
It took them long enough for something so important. Now if only they made certain traits hidden until you knew someone better or got spies on them, that would be nice too.
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Where can i download the newest kaiserreich mod for hoi4?
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>>168216893
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/kaiserreich.529944/
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>>168216958
I said for HOI4, i already got the darkest hour version.
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>>168217049
I'm not sure what you mean.
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>>168216893
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/kaiserreich-info-download.996902/
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>>168216040
>I have to say, the lifespan of this game has been pretty amazing compared to all the previous games I’ve worked on.
>I loved them all, of course - those games we no longer actively support - from Europa Universalis to Victoria II

so I guess there will never be another Vic II patch then?
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Hearts of Iron 4 was my first GS and I think it's shit. Was fun at first but the more you play the more you realise how broken everything is.

Is Hearts of Iron 3 worth getting? How much better is it?

The only thing I like about HoI4 is the random shit that can happen. In my current game Russia went democratic then for some reason the Western part of Russia became the Russian Federation (also democratic) and civil war broke out.

I didn't realise civil war could happen between the same ideology. Maybe it was a glitch or something but still fun as fuck.
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>>168217904
To be honest, the only HOI I ever really enjoyed was 2 and it hasn't aged well. You could try Kaiserreich, though.
HOI4 does have the fact that it can be pretty funny at times going for it.
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>>168217841
there will still be patches like how there were patches for EU Rome and Victoria 2, it was done by staff on their own time.
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>>168217286
I have the pirate version i need a copy of the kaiserreich mod for hoi4.
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>>168218716
sol then
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>>168218104

Yeah it made absolutely no sense.

The Soviet Union capitulated to the German Reich, but instead of annexing it or making it a fascist puppet Hitler let it go free as a Democratic Russia...

Then the Russian Federation appeared and civil war happened.

And now Germany and Russia are on the verge of having another war against each other. WHAT?

Meanwhile it seems like every country in the entire world has troops in Africa fighting for their factions over meaningless bits of land. I'm just swapping the same bits of land over and over again with one or another of the Axis nations.
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Please explain
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>>168202134
>Neo-Italian
Isn't that for your New World pops?
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>>168218861
Whatever problem you have can be fixed by not playing EU4.
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>>168182827
>shot himself
>implying
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>>168185308
I only use it for éire/pol/ because /int/éire got cancerous
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>>168215298
How so?
>>168218861
What's your problem?
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>>168219191
t. Irelad
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>>168219623
You're not wrong
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>>168192719
well, I can't create the Kingdom of France anymore but I can easily buttfuck every province that was part of it.

Then, the eternal anglos will feel my wrath...!
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>be secret religion sunni norse pagan
>tribal blob all the way to scandinavia
>undermine pagan authority and make people embrace islam
>switch before death and establish the caliphate of al-skandiyya

Also switching through societies will probably fuck with secular religious head titles. You could probably reform norse paganry and then become another religion and keep it through societies.

Like norse secret sunni title creator to sunni secret norse hier
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>>168220019
is that cp?
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Page 10 when
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>>168220143
It was some negroe on bike
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k lads
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>>168221207
Soon, lad.
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>>168196567
Never said it was accurate m8
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>>168214723
/10
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Which nation should I play as in my next eu4-game?
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>>168224315
do you play for the sake of playing or do you like doing AARs
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>>168218773
>sol
What did he mean by this?
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>>168224506
For the sake of playing really, but I have posted about my games in here sometimes
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I dont have the screencap on my phone but this just happened.

So Im playing HOI4 as Canada, got 8 divisions, 6 motorized, 2 armoured, with all the latest shit, air support from Meteors, Tempests and Lincolns. By the time I got it upgraded and equipped almost everyone was dead and I just did some mopping up.

So the Soviets DOW Poland as usual, so I send my force to Iran. It is now June 1946, and my little spearhead has punched through Kazakhstan, advanced along the Urals, then swung west taking every VC on the way until I reached the US Army west of Moscow (I already took it) and cut off half the Sovitet army in a giant pocket west of the Volga.

It seems like the AI cannot handle breakthroughs. Because of how the battleplanner AI constructs frontlines, if you keep pushing forward you dont have to worry about your flanks because the AI will keep trying to shift divisions along the fronine to cover the front of your advance rather than simply cutting you off. So you barely need to keep a flank guard. Just keep moving forward and they'll be too busy shuffling their divisions to carry out an attack order.

Still, am accomplishment nonetheless. Causing a quarter of all Soviet losses and trapping half their army with only 8 divs? Not bad for fucking leaves.
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>tfw father unites the kingdom and the son loses it
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>>168224841
>phoneposting
NO EXCUSE
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>>168224841
>Not bad for fucking leaves

Canadians were the hardest motherfuckers from the Commonwealth in WW1 and WW2.
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>>168224931
>pagan tribalshit with 3 martial
you don't even deserve to rule over a pig
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>>168225130
If it's any consolation I won't be ruling for long.

There is not a single person in my entire realm with a positive opinion of me.

Not my wife. Not my children. Nobody.
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>>168224315
cyprus but stay away from greek and turkish clay
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>>168225218
>not relocating to iceland and starting a secret eugenics program so you can have a constant supply to strong genius rulers
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>>168225339
I guess that's why they call it Autist's Land
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>>168225070
Australia says hi.
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>>168225413
>forgetting pic
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>>168225476
>can't even beat Turks
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>>168225540
>implying it was their fault Churchill was an idiot
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CK2 needs a "Capture" plot.
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>>168225832
Canadians fought through chlorine gas to beat the Germans at Ypres while Australians were getting BTFO by Turks.
>>
is cwe just nwo but memed up to a whole new level?
>>
Its silly for CWE to have Spain as a GP in 1946, wtf why do they start with +1k prestige?
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is world communism a viable prospection?
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ah yes, the cold war enhancement project
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After Carlos' successful insurrection, he looks to see how he can renew Spain's power. The kingdom of Greece is a shitty little country ruled by a monarch who God obviously doesn't favor, put in place there by the liberal great powers. Otto of Greece was styled "king of Greece" and not "king of the Greeks", because said great powers and their silly realpolitik wanted to perpetuate the existence of the stain known as the Ottoman Empire upon this earth, not giving a chance for Otto to expand Greece even if he wanted to. Carlos decides 500 is more than enough time for Turkey, and seeks to install a more proper king upon the Greek throne, somebody from his new Carlist line, who will be rightfully styled "king of the Hellenes", of course giving Spain opportunity to expand its power in the near east through proxy.
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>>168227241
stop talking shit about our mod
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>>168227341
But greece has like nothing valuable
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So what good things are going to come from Monks and Mystics?
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>be king of navarre and leon
>wife is castillan princess
>she dies, I press our only son's claim on castlile and win, son becomes independent

My character is only 40 years old so my AI son has decades to fuck everything up. worried.png
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>>168227341
During the invasion of Greece, plans are drawn for the invasion of the Empire, and war is declared
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Should I split Paraguay between me and my mate? If so, how?
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>>168227764
>Socialist Republics of South America
ebin
simply ebin
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>>168227241
>mexico
>civilised nation
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>>168225919
it doesn't? I guess only HIP has it then. It's called plot to kidnap option. Sadly, it's kind of poorly executed because it has the same success rate as assasination plots, at least on paper. Once I spent 20 years on trying to kidnap a lunatic courtier despite maintaining >100% plot power so maybe it's actually harder than it says it is.
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>>168227671
With Otto exiled the kingdom of the two sicilies joins the fight
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>>168227832
>civilised
t. World Power
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>>168227820
USASR sounds pretty cool as an acronym though. Rolls right off the tongue.

Union of South American Socialist Republics.
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>>168227868
I just realised I'd pirated a copy from from 2013, so I'm getting the latest torrent now.

What's the buy-in for CK2 nowadays anyway?
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>>168225919
there is in the HIP mod.
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>>168227881
The first few months of the offensive are difficult and bloody. It takes almost a year to make any substantial progress. Reinforcement after reinforcement are shipped to the front from Spain over the months, and all realize this was not to be a quick war. The italians meanwhile are more comfortable on the southern fronts in tunisia, libya, and egypt.
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>>168227764
Looks like you need some immigrants t bh
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>>168227764
This is horrible
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>>168227935
>yoo-sass-sur
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>>168228307
Later 1848 Constantinople is sieged, only the third successful siege of the city in its history. Ottoman government flees deeper into anatolia, and strangely, they are not willing to give up.
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>>168228525
yoo-ess-ayy-ess-are
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Who are these shady people and what do they want from me?
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>>168227764
Only possible with changeowner, even if you released Paraguay and declared war on it Argentina wouldn't be able to add a wargoal as they're a puppet.
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>>168228858
they want your trust, or they see that helping you will help their cause
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>>168228157
>>168227868
can you use that option to force a marriage? Will your prisoner's liege be forced to consent?
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>>168228687
It takes a complete year of continued fighting for the Ottomans to realize they cannot continue. This was a bloody and expensive war for all parties, and took much longer than Carlos or the rest of Spain had anticipated.
But now a large chunk of European mediterranian peoples have been liberated from Turkish rule, the popular sentiment about carlist spain is that it is a selfless defender of Europe, if slightly too quick to act and with too much manpower, and outside of the era.


ok guys that was my aar thanks
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>>168229383
>no constantinople
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>communists allow slavery

>>168228502
>>168228328
>>168227820
answer the question nigga

>>168228983
of course with changeowner
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>>168229507
it will come later
too much infamy and freeing all greek cores was already 100 warscore

also I really hope I heard correctly and you don't need to take all a country's colonies before annexing it in this latest hpm because I've already blobbed into portugal with the hope of annexing the whole thing in another war in a few years
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>>168229697
Chaco to Argentina and Bajo Paraguay to you
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>>168229697
>Low Health Care
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>>168229785
Not a big fan of how Bajo Paraguay and Entre Rios look.
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>>168230081
You should take all of it so you can be like the sole protectors of the guarani people or whatever
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>>168230081
I think it looks perfect actually, maybe give the northern half of Alto Paraguay to the PBC and it would be a pretty good partition.
Argentina needs the Jujuy though.
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yeehaw
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Now that /r/paradoxplaza has an HPM tag can Grandimod move to it's rightful home?
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>>168230683
>Now
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>>168230292
>>168230420
What about this?
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>>168230843
2bh i don't like it partitioned
Keep it as was, it made more sense

Also lad if you're gonna make this work you NEED every one of the social reforms for pop growth. You can sustain a good healthy pop growth without immigration as a new world country, I've seen it happen, but only if you do it right
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>>168229697
>what are gulags
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>>168230843
not a fan 2bh
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>>168172593
Which year did you start?
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>>168231158
Yeah but I failed to get the militancy to pass enough reforms. I played an expansionnist Brazil but you end up much weaker than not taking the -130% Immigrant Attraction. I don't regret Uruguay-Cisplatinia, this is aesthetic.

I wanted to do an Andine Federation run too, but you get DOW'd D1 in the last HPM, by both Argentina and Chile.
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>>168231598
But the PBC is American Imperialist shill, i don't want to give them territories
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>>168231562
gulags are more like serfdom
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>>168231949
>>168231751
>>168231598
>>168230843
>>168230081
>>168229697
Fuck off, Spics, no one cares about your mudblood blobs.
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>>168232151
only if you post your """"white"""" byzzieblob
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>>168232439
>mediterraneans
>white
The only white countries are: Germany, Scandinavia, Britain, America, the Netherlands, South Africa, Australia and Japan.
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>>168233093
>Germany, Scandinavia, Britain, America, the Netherlands, South Africa, Australia and Japan.
>white

pick one and only one, shitskin
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Should I...?

>>168231616
I started in 1066.
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>>168233093
>mad because mediterranean people have more culture than the autistic sperglords in the north
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>>168233093
>armenia
>inside the reich
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>>168234023
>culture is the merit of a civilisation
boy dis here jazz sure is sumfin, we like some kina aristotal or sum shieet
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>>168234127
u mad white boi?
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I've got to say, I'm loving this game so far.
>China BTFO early
>Soviets take western parts of China
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>>168234357
>not modding in a nazi flag
lad..
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>>168233093
Mediterraneans are proud, family-oriented and deeply religious people, while most of the """white""" peoples you mentioned have been cucked beyond salvation in the past century.
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>>168234841
The Jews won in 1945, if you want to talk about the modern world then it's all fucked, but this isn't about ideologies or politics, the countries I listed are genetically pure, where as the mediterranean has significant Moorish, Turkish, and other admixture.
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>>168234841
Yeah, and the only country they can defeat in open combat is Ethiopia
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>>168233093
>South Africa
Top kek, lad. Only a certain percentage of the people there are white.

>Japan
Dude...
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hey how about some videogames
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>>168233093
America = 60% white
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>>168235193
>Top kek, lad. Only a certain percentage of the people there are white.
I'm talking about the purity of the whites there. Percentage wise there are more pure whites in South Africa than there are in South America.

>Japan
I was meming on this one, what I mean is that they are intellectually equal to whites, but of course they are physically inferior.
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>>168235193
He's clearly joking around.
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as France, should I even bother with any colonizing myself (though wasting the national idea) and just vassalize Castile to do my colonizing?
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>>168235462
It's a role playing game
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>>168235079
No they can't
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is there a guide to ck2 charlemagne?

iirc carloman always dies and u get his half
then you have to marry that italian princess and get rid of her via event for lombardy

theres events for saxony... do i declare war myself or wait for them?
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RIPPPPP
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>>168235462
depends on what you want to do, how much of america is still left after portugal/castile started colonizing

you could just conquer iberia and leave castile and portugal as tiny colonizing vassals, letting you steer the rich american trade into sevilla and collecting in genoa; italy isn't hard to conquer post-shadow kingdom
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salut from vhschan :)
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>>168236794
*throws banana at you*
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What should you do in cwe
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Who I play if I want to be the savior of the white race in CWE mod for Vicky? Get Putin in power in the 1992 start or get a headstart by starting with Stalin in 1946 and turn the Soviet Union fully into a Red Russian Empire?
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SPOILERS Germany loses in the end
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Embrace gommies?
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>>168236507

colonies break free if I fully annex their overlord right? so I want to completely cripple Portugal and Castile before they unlock get their exploration ideas?
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>>168237521
Yes. Become the USSR of the Danube.
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How does this make the t*rks in this thread feel?
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>>168237764

That was from a play ago.
May have stopped the gommie revolution. I at least got to build my army up. If I get rid of penal colonies, I might even be able to stop it entirely. Still sending loadsa of people to Africa though.
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>>168235206
>what do demographics have to do with games about countries
wow yeah i can see why this is totally inappropriate, comrade!!!

>>>/r/paradoxplaza
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
>>>/r/paradoxplaza


Seriously though, any leftists here, answer me, why don't you just go to /r/paradoxplaza? It is literally identical to here except they censor political views that aren't akin to their liking.
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Is there a mod to make vic3 out of hoi4?
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>>168237962
>implying the """turks""" here aren't larping
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>>168237147
Make Germany great again.
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>>168239070
>larping
>on an imageboard
You do know what the LA stands for in that acronym, right?
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>>168238590
imagine being this mad because someone has a different political opinion in a thread that's not even related to politics
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>>168238590
>shitflinging about "muh white" is related to /gsg/
yeah, fuck off cunt
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>>168239302
>implying they're not using voice to text program and are wearing full ottoman battle dress
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>>168239302
I googled it so ye i do actually haha sucks to be you ur just jealous of our better empire compared to all the white man empires
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>>168239351
>>168239501
>being THIS anally avenged simply because someone wants to discuss different nations in a thread about games where you play as nations
Lads, I know you're mad because HoI4 doesn't have a pop system, but you can always fuck off back if you're not happy.
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>>168239673
you can fuck off to /pol/ yourself
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>>168237962
>being such a beta cuck that your only way of taking revenge on your bully is defeating him in single player history simulator
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>>168239673
thing is, "white" isn't a nation or a nationality

it is two things: a color and a distinguishing flag for shitposts
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>>168239805
>waah go back to pol pls no racism haha pls no
You could at least try to pretend you're not straight from /r/paradoxplaza.
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>>168239847
>race is a social construct
What made you think you were welcome here?
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>>168239903
i didn't even say anything about racism you're the only one here getting triggered cause people want to use the grand strategy thread for discussing grand strategy games
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>>168239673
Yeah how dare I want to discuss videogames without forever-triggered stormfags jerking off about who has the most exacting standards of whiteness. If you're going to be a bunch of retards please either be retarded about something remotely on-topic and interesting or just take it to a different board.

>>168240029
>white is not a nationality
>therefore it is a social construct
typical /pol/tard, deliberately misinterpreting people in order to attack them. fucking pathetic
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>>168240029
I didn't say that, but even you have to know that "the white race" is a anglo spook
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>>>/pol/
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>>168240050
>go back to pol because i am triggered
>n-no i didn't say anything
You are the epitome of pathetic, I don't see why you need reddit and 4chan.
>>
Is it normal to have over 1200 manpower in Darkest Hour after winning the Spanish Civil War and ending the mobilization? I thought that demobilization would cut it down to minimum, whereas it just cut it down by less than a 1000.
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>>168240161
>spook
Aah, so you're not from reddit, you're from lefty/pol/, so why don't you go back?

>>168240141
>implying i said anything about white being a nation
I listed some white nations, and you started sperging out, probably because you're not from any of them.
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>>168240170
>seething
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>>168240289
at least try to know your shit
spook is from /lit/
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>>168240302
>m-maybe if i pretend like hes mad that means im less pathetic and therefore win!!!
That's not how it works, son.
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>>168240352
>implying I care which one of your cuck clubs spawned a non sequiter
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>>168239819
delet
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>>168240549
see folks, stormfags are incapable of discussion except in the form of memery, inevitably in /pol/ discourse

stay in your containment board, please
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Reminder that stormniggers are the cancer that is killing 4chan and are directly responsible for its decline these past five years
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>>168240662
>badly redrawn meme
It's just like when you fags tried to take pepe, why can't you be original?

>>168240657
We were discussing European races, then you sperged out and now we're not. The fault lies squarely with you.
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Wow, this AI bradenburg is really close to germany formation
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What pussies!
Is there no one in the world who wishes to challenge me?
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>>168240779
not exactly.
>>168239847
was my first post in this thread today. try to keep your shit straight, please.
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>>168240810
Not really, they still need Munich, Frankfurt, Cologne, Hamburg, Lubeck, and countless others.

>>168240823
>not simply taking poland
nice cuck game
>>
Fuck Trump and fuck white "people"

#BrownIsBeautiful
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>>168240823

Albion and the frogs want some. I want the ukraine. This is equitable.
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>>168240894
There is no "white nation", just like there's no "muslim" nation, but there are white nations and muslim nations.
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>>168240779
>It's just like when you fags tried to take pepe
Pepe isn't 'your' meme you fucking redditor, it's not possible to 'take' memes, and regardless it didn't even originate on /pol/, but on /r9k/ as 'sadfrog'.

Let me guess; you ran into r/4chan or r/thedonald and wandered from there into here?
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>>168239104
what is this?
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>>168240954
you can fuck off too, you people are exactly as bad as the stormfags
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>>168241114
>Pepe isn't 'your' meme
The MSM thinks otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iu2HXqotKM
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>>168241193
>muh radical centrism
Even self hating commie fags are better than you, because at least they believe in something, you people are apathetic shells who actually think their inability to form an opinion is a form of intelligence.
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>>168241193
That's clearly a falseflag nigger.
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>>168241216
>CNN said it so it must be true
>The hacker known as 4chan created the national socialist frog pepe for political reasons
>Yep, it has absolutely nothing to do with lonely virgins
>The fact that I'm a lonely virgin also has nothing to do with it
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>>168241216
>newfag redditor literally got his understanding of chan culture from CNN
You can't make this shit up
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>>168241042
"muslim" isn't a race either, the ones who frame it like that are the leftist media outlets who want to equate having doubts about islam with racism

islam is a political ideology.

>>168241348
>muh radical centrism
actually, I'm more of a zionist
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>>168241042
And there are four white muslim nations :^)
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>>168241402
>>168241385
>meanings can't adapt through mass interpretation
Show me how lefty/pol/ trying to make this meme theirs givent he success it's had on /pol/ is the same as /pol/ using it simultaneously with /r9k/.
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>>168241193
>>168241348
>responding unironically to shitposts
>being triggered by low-effort b8
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>>168241447
>"muslim" isn't a race either,
No one said it was a race, but muslim nations exist, just like white nations exist.
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>>168241348
>you can't believe in the radical centre
>I'd rather take this guy who I hate to death than this guy who sort of agrees with me sometimes
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>>168241727
see >>168241565
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>>168241732
>radical centre
>i believe everything the media tells me to and that somehow makes me a dangerous enlightened radical
Due to the overton windown shifting so hard to the left in the current century I can assure you you agree with me on almost nothing.

Infact, economically, I'm far closer to the communist than you.
>>
>>168241402
>>168241447
>>168241385
>>168241348
>>168241374
>>168241216
>>168241193
>>168241128
>>168241114
>>168241042
>>168241009
>>168240954
>>168240909
>>168240894
>>168240779
>>168240662
>>168240657
>>168240549
>>168240415
>>168240352
>>168240302
>>168240302
>>168240289
>>168240170
>>168240168
>>168240161
>>168240141
>>168240050
>>168240029
>>168239903
>>168239847
>>168239819
>>168239805
>>168239673
>>168239617
>>168239543
>>168239501
>>168239351
>>168239302
>>168239185
>>168239070
>>168238590
You are all sad.
You are all without meaning.
You are all small.
You are all pathetic.
You are all wrong about everything ever always.
You are all fags.
You are all quiet in real life.
You are all losers.
You are all beta.
You are all poor.
You are all without hope.

You will never change any of this no matter how much you scream at me. Go REEEE in the mirror, but do so quietly so you don't disturb mummy.
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>>168241402
>chan culture

Suicide may be a good option for you.
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>>168241843
>implying the mediterranean is white
You just made us go full circle, kiddo.
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>>168241598
>it's possible for memes belong to people
Further proof that at least 90% of /pol/acks are also newfags

>>168241935
>4chan is the only imageboard in existence
wew laddo
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>>168242020
turks are white
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>>168241925
>pointing out an extremely obvious falseflag makes me as bad as everyone else there
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>>168242043
>muh chan culture
dumb frogposter
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Ships lost as of August 1939 (war has been going on since May)
German ships lost:
1 heavy cruiser, 2 destroyers, 3 submarines
French ships lost:
3 battleships, 2 heavy cruisers, 4 light cruisers, 1 destroyer
British ships lost:
1 aircraft carrier, 1 escort carrier, 5 battleships, 5 heavy cruisers, 5 light cruisers, 9 destroyers

I'm Germany BTW.
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>>168242120
Shh, let it happen.
>>
>>168241925
Nice diary
>>
>>168242043
>chan culture
>>
>>168242020
persians are white
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>>168241925
>addressing the influx of leftists from /r/paradoxplaza makes me as bad as everyone else there
>>
>>168241935
>le chan culture doesn't exist muh secret club!

Communities by definition have culture, saying there's no "4chan culture" is objectively and wilfully wrong.
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>>168242256
>suspension points
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oops
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>>168242143
>>168242256
>implying I'm not right
Whenever you lads find an argument, go ahead and post it.
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>>168242282
>>168242252
Too cute, why are you so poor and angry?
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>>168242349
It's not that it doesn't exist, it's just that you're a faggot for identifying with it.
>>
>>168241348
Radical centrism is literally fascism though. Third Way, beyond left and right, thats all the stuff fascism preached. Not saying its a bad thing, I'm leaning towards fascism in its Italian variant myself.
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>>168242456
Go on, keep blogging
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>>168242467
t. reddit
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>>168242456
>modern """socialists""" hate poor people because they don't support their worldview
You can't make this shit up.
Also
>people who can afford internet are poor
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>>168242513
>not being rich and coming here to see what the poors are up to
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What is the plan here?
Persia has some good conquering bonuses. Has artillery etc. But what neighbors do I culturally enrich first?
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>>168242434
>>168242349
>>168242383
>chan culture

Braindamaged cancerfags that use such syntagms are just like the ones that use gaymers and gaymer culture, and cancer like that.

Lurk more.
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>>168242494
>Radical centrism is literally fascism though.
"No" It's literally the opposite, social views from the left, economic views from the right.

>I'm leaning towards fascism in its Italian variant myself.
Why? Italy was completely shit under Mussolini? If you want to be fascist you should be NatSoc.
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>>168242585
>implying Africans with internet are rich
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>>168242585
>people who can afford internet are poor
Not him, but today even afghan seminomadic goat herders can afford Iphones.
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>>168242749
>Africans with internet
Extremely few exist, and the ones that do are usually rich, so this is just about the most retarded example you could have used.
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>>168242702
>Why? Italy was completely shit under Mussolini? If you want to be fascist you should be NatSoc.
Wasn't the Third Reich economic policy even more of a mess than the italian one?
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>>168242494
People obsessed with either wings tend to think centrism means either "the worst of their horrible ideology" plus "the fouls of my ideology" or just plain apoliticism.
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>>168242702
>>168242692
>>168242585
>>168242513
>>168242494
>>168242467
>>168242456
>>168242434
>>168242252
>>168242143
>>168242120
This is why you are poor and unhappy, stop torturing yourself, you don't have to be bullied all you lives, but bless you I understand you have to vent your anger somewhere this can be your safespace
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>>168242183
depends on the game
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>>168242837
Bless you, but this still is not about this is it, this is about Chad and Brad being mean to you and Cindy never noticing you, let it out buddy, we are here for you :/
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>>168242906
No? Infact it was the single greatest economy of all time. Whilst the prewar economy fluctuated and eventually completely collapsed the Nazis perfected it to the point where it was consistently high.

It's the reason most of the world uses social market economies today, though of course it was much more efficient under Germany as they promoted natalism and discouraged people using welfare instead of having a job.
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>>168242692
>suspension points
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>>168243125
oh dear, this is what happens when you read blurbs and not books, try again lad, you will get there in the end, some people are just late bloomers, come on petal have another go :/
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>>168242675
go east until you westernise, then go west.
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>>168242989
I'm screencapping all of this to send to a buzzfeed writer for an "inside the mind of an alt-right terrorist" listicle
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>>168243425
Not sure what you mean by that lad, sorry
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>>168243125
>heavy deficit spending, then paying off the massive domestic debt by pillaging Europe
>the single greatest economy of all time
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>>168242675
What >>168243397 said, go after Kalat first, then take the Sikh part of Baluschistan while they're being swarmed by the British, then destroy the Afghans.
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>>168241925
The worst thing is that it's all true. I suffer from chronic depression. Like most people here I guess.
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>>168242467
>>168242692
I'm not even that guy, I just get very up in arms when chan culture is discussed.

I don't identify with it actively, but by posting and engaging in discussion on 4chan, you're participating in board culture. Any statement to the contrary is objectively false, and demonstrates a profound lack of understanding of what culture is.
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>>168243775
Yeah I was probably too mean, I just don't understand why people think that they have found some untapped knowledge that makes everything they say pure gold and holy truth.

Seriously, do any of you think that there might be at least a small chance that at least a few of your views might be factually wrong, why are you so zealous about your views. ( Don't take it as if its aimed personally at you anon)
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>>168243125
Isn't that graph just indicating inflation?
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>>168243125
>mistaking economic recovery after the 1929 market crash with genius economic policies
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>>168241925
>You are all sad.
Most definitely.
>You are all without meaning.
Correct.
>You are all small.
Sort of.
>You are all pathetic.
Probably.
>You are all wrong about everything ever always.
I'm sick of even trying by now, you couldn't be more right.
>You are all fags.
In a way.
>You are all quiet in real life.
100% right.
>You are all losers.
Pretty sure I am.
>You are all beta.
200% sure in this one.
>You are all poor.
Only false statement here. Don't have a job but I'm still on the middle class thanks to my own parents.
>You are all without hope.
300% correct.
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>>168243125
>nazi education
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>>168243568
>>heavy deficit spending,
You really don't understand how the Nazi economy worked, do you? The fact you honestly think the Rothschilds owned banks financed them is astounding.

They made their money from ending unemployment entirely, through state run mass programs like the autobahn and at the same time allowing private enterprise, this meant that whilst places like America, Britain, and the USSR solely had one or the other Germany operated state capitalism, a policy of both private and public enterprise working together, this alone is what made Germany as successful as it was.
>then paying off the massive domestic debt by pillaging Europe
>UNIRONICALLY believing WW2 was profitable
How retarded are you?
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>>168244064
This, the abject lack of critical thinking faculties in the average 4chan goer never ceases to amaze me
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>>168244032
>chan culture
>>168244032
>board culture
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>>168244286
pointlessly throwing fancy words around doesn't make you a knowitall, it makes you a cuck.
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>>168244286
>>168244149
>>168244032
>>168243775
>>168243425
>>168244149
I'm sorry I was probably too mean, I feel kinda bad, I'm sure you're not all that bad really, yeah, I'll stop
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Any grand stategy game/4X game where you can begin in like 3000BCE and start your own civ all way to galactic?
Like spanning from 3000BCE to 3000CE.
Excluding CIV games, those aren't immersive enough. Worlds feel too small yet units take "100 years" to go from side to side, then civs are too close and not "your own".

Or when will they make it?...

Wished somebody copied Total War's campaign style, then made it 10 times deeper and more smaller hexes.
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>>168244530
no, you were right. that's a pretty good description of me.
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>>168244530
I think you were spot on lad
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>>168244619
play Civ IV Caveman 2 Cosmos for a fully fleshed out illustration of why this tired idea is pure autism and doesn't actually make for an interesting, much less playable, game
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>>168244619
>>168244801
That or Spore
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>>168244276
>you really don't understand how the Nazi economy worked
Rich coming from the person who just said that they "reduced people on welfare".

And yes, they both printed money and borrowed from domestic investors, including banks and capitalists. Not the Rothschilds, but the German equivalents.

>They made their money from ending unemployment entirely, through state run mass programs
Are you really so stupid as to think that taking on MORE government employees and financing hugely expensive projects MAKES the government money?

Yes, it eliminates unemployment, but it also costs a lot of money. Which they got through borrowing from domestic investors. If they had won the war, the massive infrastructure projects would have EVENTUALLY paid off after many years, but during their peacetime rule it was a massive expenditure.

>UNIRONICALLY believing WW2 was profitable
If they had won the war, they could have sat on and continually pillaged the continent for as long as they wanted. They began some of that during the occupation by nationalizing conquered foreign industries, stealing gold reserves, forcing foreigners to sell to them for less than market value, and so on, but the true profit would have been achieved only many years after victory.
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>>168244487
I'm sorry, next time I'll make sure to use newspeak to make sure you don't have think too hard
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>>168244801
>>168244619
also just to follow up why would you ever want to copy Total War's campaign, it's the worst part about their games
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>>168244619
The time period and everything from warfare to economy changes so much that no game can do it right.
Total war is good for ancient combat but it goes to shit the more you get closer to modern era.
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Alright, lads. WW1 time. I had to take on huge debt in order to pay off my allies debts so they'd join the war against the coalition, the only major power we'll be fighting is the Commonwealth, but every single tiny shitter state in the HRE all have 12k armies because >believable worlds, the thing is, I can't really fund my army at all because of the huge debt I'm now in, so I'll probably go bankrupt unless I do something radical post war.
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>>168245106
the problem with that style of game is that they always fail to model just how effective advances in military technology were

and for good reason, it'd be no fun to just rush yourself to firearms and then wipe the map clean of any opposition because everyone else is still using bronze swords
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>>168245178
Steal your enemies' gold, then gas them.
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>>168245178
Debase your currency? Sure you have to pay in the long run to reduce corruption but the whole point of it, historically and in game is for cash strapped sovereigns to stay in the red
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>>168244064
Honestly? A sense of identity I guess. I was never social enough and my teachers said I had "potential" so I fought I was clever. Being contrarian, always being able to "plus one" people makes you feel better, in politics as in the rest: socialist think that historical materialism and marxist dialectics make them see the Truth, fascists think the globalist elite, in media like in history, is hiding the Truth that they have discovered, centrists think that "the Middle Way" is automatically the good one, i.e. the Golden Mean Fallacy.

Who else here takes SSRIs?
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>>168245263
>to just rush yourself to firearms
Except that that's not how history works. In real life there is no "tech tree", and in fact science as we know today didn't actually help with improving technology until the 17th-18th centuries. It was a prestigious way for princes to spend money, but discovering Jovian moons or the mechanism of combustion wasn't immediately applicable to improving military technology. Throughout most of history, advancements were generally made by millions of people trying shit out randomly and making incremental improvements to existing technology. Maybe there'd be the occasional genius who would invent three or so things, but that was rare.
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>>168244956
>>168244276
Would it be profitable to invade Switzerland if you pillage them with no care afterward?

>>168244402
>Associal people hiding together on the internet creates a "culture"
Wonderful how it works.
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>>168245406
My economy has just been shit all game, I have no idea why, I own a lot of good land but it just makes no tax money, plus Lubeck steals all my trade income.
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I've put about 100 hours into EUIV so far and wanted to play as a colonization nation but not be too overpowered (Britain, Portugal) so I played as Mali

I was making shittons of money (even though tech was awful) and made some great alliances that let me take over all of my rivals and most of the surrounding land

the problem is that before I could even unlock ideas Portugal already sent 7 settlers down to me before 1500 and colonized the entire ivory coast, and their military outclassed mine exponentially

is there any point playing as africa when the yurups just come in and fuck you effortlessly?

normal difficulty, ironman mode
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>>168245624
How much you can extract depends on how long you can manage to squat on their country. Occupied for two years? Probably not profitable. But twenty definitely would be.
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>>168245558
again, not a very easy thing to model in a game and still have it be something people want to play
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>>168244276
Actually, Nazi Germany had a consistent patern of overspending, accruing a lot of debt, both internal and external, and going out of control in 19367/1937, when Hitler economists told him that the situation was unsustainable, and that he should go back to a more orthodox economic approach, or fully commit to a eventual war. Furthermore, while there was a increase in the living standards at first, and huge increase in domestic industrial production, the consumption per capita of milk and meat only reached pre-1929 levels in 1937, and them collapsed because of the greater focus on military production as well as internal economical issues, and I wouldn't describe Hitler economical approach as being "business friendly".
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The ugloest borders itt?
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>>168245018
>>168245106
Meant more the art style.
>>168244801
Basically just want to experience founding my own civilization/culture alike Empire Earth on a huge grand scale.

Guess Stellaris is closest to this.
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Well, how does Europe look?
The war started in May of 1939; Poland fell after two weeks, and France followed suit after about a month and a half.
I am planning on launching Unternehmen Seelowe in June of 1940, to which I will dedicate the full strength of the German people.
Once the eternal anglo is forever destroyed. I will install a puppet government in Poland, and then I will begin the greatest undertaking of our time: Unternehmen Barbarossa.
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Doing my first game as USA-CSA. How do I inherit texas? HPM by the way.
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>>168246018
Influence Ireland and call them in when mainland UK has almost capitulated, then give them NI.

>>168246051
1). sphere them
2). wait
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>>168246018
Once you taken London Stalin will always declare war on you
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>>168245263
>rush yourself to firearms
Most advancements in warfare are incremental and took a very long period of time.
Revolutionary breakthroughs also didn't come out of nowhere but from experience and empirical data collected from battles and wars.

Read about the change to standard Roman armor after their first battles against Thracians.

>>168245624
Those labels are pure bullshit and meaningless to anyone that has been here for more than 5 years.
Just like "user experience", "visual identity", "rape culture", "gender identity", "alt-right"...
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Did a small variation. Pivoted to Sindh since the Punjab fell while I was at war with Afghanistan.
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>>168246172
t. Irishman who wants undeserved land
>>168246207
Regardless of who starts the war, Stalin will lose.
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>>168246382
>t. Irishman who wants undeserved land
>undeserved
Ulster belongs to the Irish and you know it.
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>>168245957
Looks pretty nice and realistic.
Like that's just the path your mad general/king/ALEXANDER took.
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>>168246051
Take Greenland (easy), Haiti (easy), the whole of Oregon (luck-based) and then cozy up to Russia and you're set. Sphere the Americas, yo uhave pratically no competiotion.
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>>168246359

Could be aesthetic.
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>>168239104
no, really, what is this
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>>168246561
Mayo and Texas
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>>168246382
northern ireland tickles my autism hard

give it back or annex the rest, I don't care, anything is better than this
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>>168246561
the
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>
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mod creator is making a gigantic update to his mod with most of Europe included.
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How good is Darkest Hour?
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>>168246541
One of the only two people who answered you told you to take the Sikh Baluchistan (Punjab) before it gets invaded.

Idiot.

Also, Sindhi are sunni so fuck off and go free the Azeri and Kurds.
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>>168246753
Dated, but (arguably) the best HOI game made. Used as a war simulator by a military college if I recall
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>>168246648
>>168246690
you got me excited there for a second, I though M&T redid their map to be even better than it already was
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It's cool to have von Habsburg's padishah as ruler of Jerusalem
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>>168246974
oh what the fuck
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>>168246868

I will end strife in Islam by taking Mecca
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>>168227634
Does the person whoms claims you are pressing have to be landed?
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Goals?
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>>168245727
>having forts
Besides, if you have positive income while at war, you're playing wrong.
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>>168247536
Communist Eurasia + China and Vietnam
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>>168246904
>Used as a war simulator by a military college if I recall

>decide to join the military
>you're in class one day, when your teacher opens the door, and pulls in a cart full of laptops
>"This week, you're all going to see if you can manage to run a WWII-era nation
>you open the laptop
>IT'S FUCKING DARKEST HOUR
>click on Germany
>'play'

>1 week later

>you are all presenting your end-games via a HDMI cable connecting your laptop to a TV at the front of the room
>some random girl is wrapping up her presentation
>she went with France, and ended up being annexed by the Soviet Union
>the teacher calls your name
>connect your laptop
>immediately, the screen is filled with an all-grey Europe
>the other students begin to accuse you of cheating.
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War is over, white peace signed, this breaks the coalition and allows me to focus on recovering from this god awful economic situation.

>>168247620
Why wouldn't I have forts?
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>Charlememe became a lollard and opened Christendom to be conquered by Reformed Germanics
>a Carolingian is grandmaster of the Teutonic Knights in 1350
As a Catholic before converting to Reformed Suomenusko, I feel like I should do something
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>>168247536
could you link me the mod(s) that you are using?
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>>168247178
if they're landed or a member of your family, AND-
the title you're warring for is lower rank than your primary title-
you will vassalize them.
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So why exactly is every farmer and labourer in my nation unemployed? There's plenty of RGO space for all of them.
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>>168248345
looks like CWE
http://www.moddb.com/mods/victoria-2-cold-war-enhancement-mod/downloads/cwe-mod-version-104
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Why do other kings hire crusaders to fight against me when i'm a catholic myself?
all this does is waste their money
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>>168247536
I do if you do (HPM or NWO, idc)

Make the world communist.
Most aesthetic borders possible.
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>>168247850
Think about how much other shit you can have other than forts.
each level 1 is worth about 20 infantry for base cost and 10 in maintenance.
While having one or two outside your capital for choke points is reasonable, having to many is just a drain on finances.
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>>168248415
build railroads so they can migrate there.
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>>168248415
If the RGO isn't profitable enough to support them, they'll automatically become unemployed.
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Well shit!
The kurds tried to unify!
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>>168248552
oh, i just saw that they fight against heathens too
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>>168248704
Shouldn't you be at war with them?
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what borders for maximum comfy france?
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>>168248856
There's no event for a player Persia to declare war on Bohtan when the Kurdish states unite, you sort of have to just keep paying attention to the region so you can declare war manually when they do so.
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>>168249293
Really? seems like an oversight by HPM desu
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>>168248704
>>168248856
>>168249293

Managed to unify my kurds before the entire lot got annexed. This event popped up.. Not sure what the result is supposed to be. Maybe to split the kurds so each group gets their cores? pretty sure I should just agree here.
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>>168249483

fuck
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OK, I give up. I've run out of ideas, so I'm asking here. How in the name of all that is holy do I deal with the Byzantine empire?

I tried assassinating the rulers until they get shit ones, but then they just kill their asses, appoint a different dynasty and carry on as usual. Tried to ally with Italy to kick their asses, they just casually took a quarter of Italy. I've been trying to amass a massive army, but the fuckers have 60k men on a good day and 30 on a bad one. They're impossible to beat, they're impossible to destabilize, they just don't care.

Can I declare a crusade on their asses or some shit? I'm getting 23 gold a month, I could bribe my way to a bishop of mine becoming the pope if I wanted to. Can't I just go fund some ottoman "freedom fighters" and let them do their thing?Seriously, THE FUCK DO I DO?!
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>>168249691
that's what you get for playing meme start date
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>tfw having a pocket pope to excommunicate everyone i don't like and get a claim on traitorous
dukes
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>>168249226
The states corresponding to modern day Cote d'ivorie, senegal, indochina, morocco, algeria, morocco (take spanish cities), tunisia, gabon. Build the suez take djibouti and madagascar, kwangchowan, hold pondicherry.
Your europe looks comfy if you're not planning on being groB and going natural borders

All of west africa should be french though t b h but that may interfere in your comfy
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>>168249846
You have any idea how hard it is to find a date where Bulgaria HASN'T been conquered by someone else? Shit's hard.
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>Send 9k troops against a small Muslim duke with 3k levies
>He's in Mesopotamia and I'm in Crimea so it takes months to reach him
>In the meantime Abbasids decide to blob into my provinces with 9k men
>Decide to go against them raise a few more levies
>5k Persians suddenly appear
>Get my ass kicked
>Eventually Byzzies come help and i destroy their armies
>Move with the 6500 men left against the Muslim duke
>He now has 5k men
>Whatever, he has no generals I got this
>Attack
>Notice that It´s in the mountains
>Duke brings 2500 mercenaries I didn´t notice into the fray
>Lose over half my army
>Faction against me now at 99%
>Almost out of gold
>Abbasids have another army coming into my lands

Should I sue for peace? I could still get a white peace out.
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>>168250057
The whole of Guinée seems a bit blobby and I'm a bit lazy but the rest is basically what I had in mind.

Should I intervene in the Oriental Crisis to get Egypt with Syria, Cilicia and most of the Orient? The benefit is so good, but it's not that comfy...
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Witty names or the replies that ended in 18, cmon make /gsg/ great again
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>>168249662

NV time.
Could see Equality being a nice one. Since I have a variety of cultures that can be assimilated. (Conquering SIndhi and Afghanistan dispersed a lot of them around). Also makes the people socialist, so I can quickly economic reform. Gets that culture tech too.

Autocracy and try for a meme anarcho-liberal Bourgeois state?

Productivity is amazing, because it has no downsides.
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>>168250362
>people post my old blob maps up to this day
I feel flattered desu
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>>168250782
they're pretty cool desu
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>>168250362
why have less of Africa than what France had in real life ?
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>>168250491
Productivity desu
When do you think you will westernize?
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>>168250782
ree you still havent made that Celtic one I asked you to do.
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>>168250362
I missed quebec, if you don't own quebec kill yourself.
Don't go full guinea if you think its blobby, but you should take a fair bit, a syria with lebanon and cilicia is comfy imo.
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>>168250782
This one is autismo though
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>>168249691
Come on. Someone? Anyone? There has to be SOME way of dealing with massive empires.
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>>168250894
>No North Borneo despite it being offered to them as a penal colony
>No Sudan despite the UK offering it to them for participation in the Mahdist War
>No Andaman/Nicobar Islands despite the Italians being interested in purchasing them
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>>168251226
Just cut pieces off of it when it goes into civil war or goes to war with the abbasids, better if they both happen at the same time.
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>>168250897
Better borders, easier to administrate, entirely continuous. I do think I should've added Cameroon there though.
>>168251082
Yeah I went crazy with the puppets there.
>>168250948
I suppose I could give it a try right now, don't have anything to do right now anyway. Don't expect much though, it's been some good months since I stopped making these.
>>168251265
I could fix this later on too.
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Does nobility just disappear at a certain date or something?
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>>168250925

Productivity is good, yes, but is so normal! I could have gone order and gotten 50% land experience and went full Immortal army on everyone by late game.

Decided on Equality though. Gonna make the world Persian! Probably by early 1860. Brits crashed my economy at 50.
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>>168251672
Nobility doesn't belong in a modern state.
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>>168251672
It's tied to influence, if it falls too low they disappear (I think).
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>>168251394
They never have any civil wars. Just assassinate a ruler, get the next one and carry on. And the Abbasids aren't really a thing anymore.
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Red is vital, blue is comfy, green is rational.>>168250362
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>>168250894
>Siam
>Not Korea
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Rate my europe.
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What's the go-to colour for pan-celticism?
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>>168251974
>no abbasids
>muslim russians
>no byzantine civil wars

Sorry but it looks terminal, you're in for a rough playthrough.
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>>168251672
>Burgers
>Austria
>1688

top kek, tell me this shit isn't ahistorical as fuck
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>>168252228
light Green or dark blue
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>>168252214
Do I just wait until 1700 so they lose the lucky nation buff?
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>>168252275
OK, plan B, then. Time to conquer my way into west Europe and as far away as I fucking can from the purple bastards.
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>>168252214
georgia is cool, not you
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>>168252214
>not controlling the whole cote de azure
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>>168237582
if you full annex you get their CNs
if you vassalize while they have CNs the CNs break free

you want to force vassalize them AFTER they have exploration ideas, and BEFORE they form a colonial nation under themselves

then when you diplo annex them, you inherit the CNs
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>>168252457
I don't think they ever lose it, do they?

You take them early on. It takes several wars, but if you win the first early war, they will become weak enough for you to beat them little by little during the game.
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>>168250897
>>168250983
I already did a GrossFrankreich game, I don't feel like it - not comfy.

>>168252084
Pretty nice
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Where's the new thread? R&I is kill?
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Really activates the almonds. >>168252931
That's fun to hear, guess I'm never getting true AH borders then
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>>168251746

Actually I lied. Took 12k pops Turkmenistan from Khiva and got a travel to Europe event. Its fucking ogre.
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>>168252965
That's unaesthetic blobbing lad, true grobfranciums is beautiful with natural borders cucking the krauts
Also make sure you take quebec upper and lower plus newfoundland
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I joined the war so you would take their lands, and you fucking fail to do the most basic task WHYYYYY
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>>168252784
By now it will be super easy to take it. I'm going to bed desu. I feel silly for thinking that mare nostrum achievement was just uniting the mediterranean coastline, only to find out ten minutes ago that I need to take whole of france, iberia, london and some more in the middle east (because that's how you reform rome. I have been slacking and helping allies fight wars for fun, wasting valuable time. I feel like it's too late now. Or is it? I believe it is.
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>>168253064

>always the weakest baby boom
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>>168253179
Ok, economic reorganisation done. Should I take Haiti? I know it's worthless but still.
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R....a..nd.....I...
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>>168254482
WHERE'S THE NEW THREAD M8
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>>168253878
yea, but I've always thought hispaioniola was a cool looking island. Also you gotta regain youre international standing after losing it to savages
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eu4 and hoi4 need to be quarantined
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>775 posts
>no new thread
thanks faggots
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Is this the end of /gsg/?
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>>168255476
new thread

(only made to bait R&I out of hiding so he can make a proper one)
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>>168255441
no
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>>168255531
Fuck off, let it die
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Maybe I should stick to existing countries tb h
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>>168252327
>or dark blue
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>>168255894
>>168255894
>>168255894
NEW THREAD GOD DAMMIT
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>>168172109
There was this Trading Company mod which had a Krupp company in Korea that could take over the country and also Manchuria.
When I played, I've only built weapons and steel
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>>168255876
More this colour, lad. It needs to remind you of infected potatoes.
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>>168256013
>tfw new Companymod version soon
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