/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

First for java

>>168147735
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Fuck.

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A new cute-scene iv been working on.

(being the cutscenes that are going to be shown at the end of a world as the transition to the next adding a new animal friend that is saved and brought along for the ride at the end of each world).

>>168147735
Wheres the previous thread link?

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>Source: developer.valvesoftware.com

Putting the "A" in AGDG :^)

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Post your plans for progress during this thread!

>>168147642
>you're retarded for caring that someone else is retarded

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>>168148115
i'll make one of those. and then launch a new demo.

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>>168148109
>previous thread link
Double fuck.

>>168147735
Previous: >>168097979

Maybe this will help.

Who else /writing everything first before doing actual game dev/ here?

>>168148115
Making my "themer" class generic, so I can just slap a component on a gui control, and select something from a dropdown and it'll take care of setting the hover/normal/disabled graphics, colors, and text colors

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OP forgot Lumberyard, our next-gen early access game engine.

>>168148321
I'm not writing but I have a lot of lore in my head, and my game doesn't even have proper gameplay.

>>168148321
It's a good way to make sure my scope doesn't get all out of whack is what I tell myself

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>>168148225
Do you have reading comprehension problems?
You are a retard for failing to realize that he was not going for realism and that the way he made it gives players a cleaner presentation of the weapon.

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Pretty much finished the moving and damage scripts, I can change how many tiles a projectile can move per turn and set different death actions and scripts for each kind of object.

Next I will set up a basic currency system and let the player build his own turrets.
After that I will make an energy system so you have to connect turrets to power generators.

If I'm not going to finish comfy jam in time, what do I do?

You can update entries after the fact right?

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How the fuck do I get good at background props

>>168148495
>beaver using such a flimsy saw
So it's someone using a seemingly superior but ultimately worse tool holding them back?

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>>168148495
>twitch

>>168148504
If you're making a souls-like, then you're already finished all the writing you'll ever need friendo.

Should we report this thread and make a proper one like last time?

The samefag shitposter is obviously here.

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Added a cow, so now you can harvest milk. Working on a windmill so you can grind up some wheat, and bake some tasty bread.

Probably work on chickens and eggs next.

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>>168148115
Almost done with a new mechanic to buy/sell items in the black market at different locations. Just need to add a UI for it now.

>tfw I only have two months left to finish my uni thesis and I'm working on my game at every chance I get instead.
There has to be a clinical name for this kind of retarded behaviour.

>>168148070
Looking good Bokudev.

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Who else geometrically challenged here?
Spent the whole day figuring out cairo tiling, because I'm a shitty hipster and don't want to conform to the square/hex binary.

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>>168148943
And what ended up being coded. Still debating whether or not I should rotate it so it spreads straightly along x and y axis like in the png's lower left.

>>168148950
I'd touch that cow

>>168148649
Yeah just pload what you have then you can update it when you finish

>>168148943
>>168149125
I mean it looks pretty neat but literally why?

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>it works even after I intentionally broke it

>>168147735
If you're going to take it upon yourself to make the OP you need to put dome goddamn effort into it boy

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>>168148070
misleading thumbnail !!!

>>168148070
I don't get what the yellow platforms on the left and right are supposed to be. Is that bird carrying a bunch of flapjacks?

>>168148115
>finish basic framework for battle system
>start working on character classes
>maybe get some placeholder character / monster models in

>>168149445
Oh shit it's Plok

>>168148321
I do both since I'm one of those "Had a story for ten years that I've completed. I've worked HARD on this." guys. The main story synopsis is completely finished and planned out, along with all of the main characters. I've only got to write side content and dialogue.

>>168149360
I was looking for alternative, more organic looking world representations and figured I wasn't smart enough for Voronoi / Delaunay stuff yet, so I compromised with myself and ended up with this.
Basically Goldbluming this and looking where this leads me.

>>168148115
-Make test Main Menu with buttons that actually work
-Model some Trees
-Start building the test scene up more
-Work on World Map

>>168148321
>Didn't write shit
>Deving for 4 years with a lot of problems
>Decide to finally stop and write down my shit

>>168148115
Work on my game design document

How do I make a comfy crosshair?

>>168150175
Round

>>168148070
The motion of your animations always looks so unnatural and shaky.

>>168150175
make sure they add on to each other like Halo 2

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>>168124856
That's very nice of you, anon. Thank you! Owls are cool, aren't they? At summer I always hear their shriek around the house as the young ones are calling for their mother.

>>168125124
I'm happy that that picture made you a little bit better for some time, anon. I wish I could give you something more than motivational speeches and the fact that I've read what you've wrote and would gladly listen to more if you would like to have a heart-to-heart. Take care of yourself, anon! Those soldiers of yours need you so they can come to life.

>>168144687
>feigns interest in your wellbeing even if it isn't real
I know you won't believe me, but I do care. I've been part of several creative communities before, but let me tell you, game dev ones are the best. I can not explain this feeling, but even running around in the simplest prototype of a project could be fun. How come? Because you can still feel the mark of the enthusiasm of the creator. That honest enthusiasm when they first grabbed a controller and told themselves: damn, one day I want to make something cool like this! And now the day had come for him. So even if it's just a bunch of colored boxes floating around, you can still witness a humble dream starting to get fulfilled, which is very heartwarming.

Stay strong, anons!

>>168150175
Kittycat and the nose of the kittycat is the point!

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>>168150686
Funny you should say that

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>hand holding
Absolutely disgusting

>tfw you thought having concurrent events happening at the same time, using the same data was a good idea

>>168150985
It's okay if they're just reads anon.

>>168150939
>latching to the bounding box instead of non-0 alpha pixels

>>168151116
I'm sorry :^)

>>168151145
But anon, that requires more computing power than our modern day computers can handle. Think about the 0.000*e-1ms he'll save if he used the hitbox instead.

>>168151145
>>168151825
Well he could just make a tighter hitbox/capsule. Avoiding pixel perfect collisions isn't just about performance, it's about getting rid of snags, having better normal information, etc.

There was a video posted here a while ago of some low poly forest house or bridge being made. It was in a program everyone here seemed to rag on and say they could do the same thing in blender in half the time. Anyone have it? It was a drag and drop process sort of. Working with the tilesheet.

>>168150939
Love the emergence in this game

>>168152093
Crocotile

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Fixed a ton of issues with background units pursuing foreground units and vice versa. Most of the issues were caused by the fact that background units' sprite positions don't match their logic positions, so I just made it so they pursue their target's sprite position instead. Made two different tracer sprites for foreground and background guns

Also broke collision detection again

>>168152093
Crocotile 3D

>>168152154
>>168152240
Thanks

>>168152201
So what kind of gameplay is this gonna have in the long run, beyond just flying around, shooting baddies?

Something like Ace Combat mission structure?

>>168152201
Wow, you're back.

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>>168152123
This game is so broken you can make a grenade launcher by combining grenades with a drill.

>>168152413
I'd like to do some kind of mission structure like Ace Combat, but since it's much faster-paced than AC just because it's 2D I'm not sure how well it would work

I think that's my biggest problem going forward is how I actually squeeze a couple of minutes of gameplay out of each level. I don't want to slow it down too much but right now I think it plays too fast, you could destroy a dozen targets in 30 seconds

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Posting some progress. In the past 2 days I fixed the inventory system, added stackable ammo in two types, added a shotgun and pistol, added a knife melee, added openable containers, added enemy AI that can hear you and be alerted to your presence when it is hit by your flashlight or hears you making noise nearby, enemies behind walls have dampened hearing so you'd have to do something really loud to piss them off, like looking a heavy metal drum or firing a gun.

Pistol and shotgun can be fired "from the hip" by tapping the lmb, or the lmb can be held down to aim and increase accuracy/decrease spread.

Weapons are reloadable, enemies can deal damage to you, enemies can pathfind around corners but are taught to stay in their current room unless the play is visually seen

>>168152732
Juicy feature

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>working on a game with another guy
>I don't work super fast nor am I the most disciplined but I try and do get progress
>other guy worked on it the first two weeks then quickly stopped
>works on it 4 hours a week even though he's got plenty of time
>absolute lowest on his priority list
>getting him to work on it is like pulling teeth
>"nah I gotta do something in 30-45 minutes so can't right now"
>if he does work on it he will eventually encounter a problem which he will give up trying to fix after 15-30 minutes
>this is for the very early concepting stage where rough placeholders are just fine
>can't imagine how it would be for when it's time to put in actual effort and meet a certain standard of quality in things (which means upping the effort and time by a factor 10)

At this point I'm gonna give up and pick a smaller scale personal project, there's not point. If I tell him, he'll say he'll work on it, and will work on it for a little that day but two days later it's back to square one. He obviously has no real interest in it because he doesn't use his free time to work on it nor to try and improve his skills in something related to it.

Rant over, back to devv- oh wait right, gotta figure out what to do now.

I don't get it.
My flood fill algorithm is slow as hell, but I don't see how I can optimize it.
Is C# just slow when it comes to large arrays (bigger than 1024*1024)?

>>168153202
Flood fill is slow.

>>168153202
It is possible for an array to be too big to be held in memory at once, you know?

>>168152993
>falling for the collaboration meme
If I were join a project, it would be an existing one that I could just step into and augment their manpower, not something very small where I represented half the team

>>168153202
You just need a better processor.

>>168153202
>but I don't see how I can optimize it.
Threads and cache sized blocks

>>168152993
Honestly man. Make a small puzzle platformer alone and release it for like 99 cents.

Let that guy know that you released an entire commercial game while he has gotten almost nothing done.

Some people have awful workflow

>>168153202
>array larger than 1024x1024
nigga what are you doing

>>168152993
I have this same problem except the person I'm working with is legitimately skilled by the most unreliable person possible.

>I'll have this done at X
>Not done
>I'll do it right now
>Never gets done

I don't understand how anyone can just say they'll do something and NEVER do it.

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Just give up on your game dev dreams already, anon. You're too depressed to make a good game, and even if you weren't, your best efforts would be nothing but garbage.

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>>168154030
Despite all my flaws I made great progress today.
You will not drag me back into the bucket!

>>168154030
Then what the fuck would I do instead? There's nothing I want to do other than gamedev.

>>168154030
So many amazing indie games are being made by so many diverse people. Everybody has the ability to create a fun game to share with the world as long as they have the patience and determination!

I think everyone here except the asshole guy can and will release an awesome game one day, and I'm psyched as fuck to play them all!
(plz send me your games for free, anons)

Is it possible to make a legit art style out of mixels

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>>168154191
>>168154195
>>168154264

>>168153290
It's supposed to be done once at loading. It'll be okay if it doesn't take to much time.

>>168153294
>>168153650
The grid is actually divided into chunks (128*128). Flood fill is performed on each chunk, then a last pass is made to check intersections. It's way faster than perform flood fill on a large grid.
I could make it multihreaded, but I'm not sure about the algorithm yet.

>>168153559
I keep on eye on ryzen.

>>168153753
Pathfinding stuff.

>>168154423
>not using a navmesh

>>168148875
I can already feel the comfyness

>>168154423
>I could make it multihreaded, but I'm not sure about the algorithm yet.
You really should.

>>168154528
Could be he's using a flowmap for masses of mobs.

>>168154264
reddit garbage

>>168154608
And why can't a flow map use a navmesh instead of a dense grid?

>>168150939
This will haunt me in my dreams.

>>168152993
>>168153831

im working with someone and i am the person you guys are talking about.
>Feelsgood.jpg

>>168155007
FUCK YOU

>>168155089
not my fault you guys are so autistic about gamedev, i do it because i think it's fun. After the initial 2 weeks it ain't fun no more.

>>168155341
Not my fault that you're a loser.

>>168155341
Then stop pussyfooting around and tell your partner. Just dozing around and saying "I'll get around to it" instead of "I don't wanna anymore" is wasting time. Valuable time, because it isn't yours.

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Best way to pathfind on a flowfield? I know about Euler's method and the Trapezoid method, but are there any better ones for games? I don't need great precision or anything so maybe there are faster, simpler ways of "finding" (path is technically already found, I just need to steer the actor along it) a good enough path.

>>168152993
Are you the artist?

>>168155646
maybe bezier curves?

>>168155729
Nope, he's the artist.

>>168155341
Then fucking say you don't want to, faggot. You're wasting people's time.

>>168154608
>>168154926
Or, rather, why not use a navmesh and a regular Dijkstra map instead of a flowmap?

>>168148938
>There has to be a clinical name for this kind of retarded behaviour.
Procrastination?

help pls
http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/1312419/script-not-waiting-for-scene-to-load-before-execut.html

>>168150641
They're majestic creatures indeed. They're so calm and wise-looking.
My game is actually going to be themed around the sky/space, so I think an owl will fit well.
Btw, which one is your game so I can follow you?

>>168156134
I am not a Unity dev but doesn't load scene work in async fashion? Unity should have a BeginPlay() or something similar for scripts that gets called when the scene and objects get loaded. You want to move your battle creation logic there.

>>168154553
That's the plan! I'm glad you can feel it.

>>168154528
>>168154926
>>168155926
This flood fill algo is actualy the first step if I want to generate navmeshes (it separate the terrain mesh into non/walkable zones).
Those thing will comes handy later.

>>168156134
Looked again. This is what you want.
http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/1174255/since-onlevelwasloaded-is-deprecated-in-540b15-wha.html

>>168156754
You don't need floodfill for that, though. Unreachable "islands" aren't a problem.

>>168157091
that makes much more sense, thanks

I have to highly recommend affinity designer/photo for dev needs since Adobe are such fucks.

Stupid question, but, making a short VN that doesn't have any choices wouldn't be game right?

>>168157447
I'd consider it a game.

>>168152993
Good on you Anon. Never trust anyone unless there's a resume, contract, and some dollar bills involved.

>>168156134
Maybe you need to call
UnityEngine.SceneManagement.SceneManager.SetActiveScene()

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Been playing around with ways to implement war, it's pretty chaotic when everyone is at war with everyone else, but should be better once I add some kind of diplomacy between countries.

>>168157447
Something which you do not interact with is not a game.

>>168157625
Reminds me of when I was messing around with cellular automata and I made a Civ inspired one that fought with each other like that.

>>168157642
But you need to contentiously push a button to make the story unwrap.

>>168158003
You need to turn a page to make the story unwrap in a book, I wouldn't call a book a game.

do other generals have a resident delusional lunatic?

>>168157909
Yeah, that's what it is right now.

My goal is to make a game that can play itself, and then just add a player at the end.

Anyone know why my xnb's aren't converting to png's correctly?

>want to make a puzzle game
>know I have to make it playable on a touch screen in order for anyone to actually play it
I really hate how stagnant the puzzle genre has become due to mobileshit.

>>168158295
I like him. He makes me feel normal

making game which got some actual point and unique idea is fucking hard

I want to see more of /agdg/'s 3d animation creations.

>>168158667
>how stagnant the puzzle genre
No. It's stagnant only because it is used for non puzzle games.

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Well, I haven't asked here yet, so let's do it now.

This is current progress of graphic rework. What do you guys think?

>>168158667
Puzzles a shit

>>168158295
he's a very special guy and you have to admire that, even a little

>>168159121
Looks like shit still.

>>168158828
who?

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>>168159139
kys cunt

>>168159412

Generally, 3D creators of /agdg/.

>>168159121
looking good anon. keep it up

>>168158828
No. My 3D creations are shit.

>>168159121
looks like shit, just a different kind of shit

you went from "flash game found on newgrounds circa 2006" to "le retro indie hipster pixel platformer" shit. arguably a worse kind of shit.

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>>168159818

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Why??

>>168159273
Can you tell me more about "why"?

>>168159863
Thanks anon, I will keep going.

>>168160258
Thanks for criticism. I'm not into into hipster indie and that shit, so here's my question - what makes it look like that? And why is that so bad?

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Write a quick crop field spawner with an array in an array. Works pretty great, a single row of 180 loads up no problem, lets see if there's any problems loading 180 by 200 for the whole field of dreams.

Hit play, everything stops, realize I told Unity to spawn 36000 objects in the Start function. I think I'll try switching the field spawning to happen through a coroutine next, to see if that changes anything. And I'll probably want to look into LOD stuff and hiding or unloading stuff that far from the player.

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Agdg i need some pointers.
I'm having a kind of crisis here, since i have no idea if my game is fun, and i don't know what to do to make it fun.

I was trying to do something inspired by Metal Gear 2 for MSX, which then evolved to something overambitious about a sandbox game like Far-Cry and eventually i settled for a linear game with bosses and new enemy types the further you go. I spent weeks coding the enemy AI which isn't all that good, and im basically thinking of quitting to start a new game.
i promised myself though that i would finish this one a year ago.

tl;dr
Does this even look remotely fun? What would make it fun? What would you add agdg?

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>>168160513
rip

>>168157625
>that comeback

NEVER GET INVOLVED IN A LAND WAR IN ASIA

Making game is the first time I've used a lot of the algorithms from my CS degree. This is pretty fun.

>Start making a game in Unreal
>Don't want to commit to it because there will be an update soon that breaks everything

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Comfy Jam is almost here!

Is your comfy game ready?

>>168157625
Fleshy is savage

>>168160776
Stealth games rely 100% on level design, you should focus on the core gameplay first and build the world around that.

>>168161385
I misread the directions and accidentaly made an uncomfortable game

>>168161291
You aren't forced to update, and even if you do it's not the end of the world.

4.15 doesn't seem all that substantial anyway.

>>168157625
How does it decide who wins what square? Looks cool as hell.

>>168160695
>Thanks for criticism. I'm not into into hipster indie and that shit, so here's my question - what makes it look like that? And why is that so bad?
because its flat-shaded, and the design of the character is slim and "modern"

>>168161617
Do you have any pointers regarding the level design? I'm fairly green when it comes to that, to making a good level.

>>168161749
Population of the tile + overall population of the country and some randomness.

>>168158361
Pretty cool, I once tried making something like that too. Best of luck to you.

>>168160776
I really hate to be that guy but
>mixels
Anyway, I can't judge if the game is fun based on webm, it looks like it has potential though. I wouldn' t want it to be linear, it could be really could if there were different ways to complete a mission, kinda like Deus Ex.
Overall I wouldn't quit.Like I said, game has potential.

>>168161079

This is one of my fetishes. Got any more?

>>168159121

Looks much better. Keep at it.

http://www.pcgamer.com/valve-reveals-its-plan-to-replace-steam-greenlight/

Whelp, maybe it's time for me to actually give up on my game. No point in paying $5,000 just to make $20 from total sales. And that's before Valve takes their cut.

>>168152993

The guy wants out but he is too much of a pussy to tell you. He doesn't want you to get mad at him. I know, i've been there.

>>168161916
I can't think of many top-down 2d stealth games but googling "stealth level design" brings up some good articles, you should play games and analyze what exactly makes them fun.

>>168162375
If your game was only going to make $20 why did you want it on Steam in the first place.
If you think your game can be succesful but need to gauge interest, there's plenty of ways, steam no longer equals free marketing.

One more anime post and i'm going to r/gamedev. Seriously stop.

>>168162732
good riddance

>>168162732
bait

>>168162375
it already cost $100 though

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>>168162732

>>168160776

ahhh that camera movement makes me want to kill my self

>>168162375
You're about twenty years late.

>>168163053
Would you rather have it centered on the player or...?

I just realized, for me, videogames is art and expression.
And agdg is not working like an artist at all.

Examples:
>Is this cool?
>Should I change it?
>What do you not like?
>Should I move that pixel one to the left?
>Or maybe two pixels to the right?
>Is this color ok?
>Should I make an other charakter?
>Do you like waifus?
>Should I make a waifu main charakter?

Imagine an Artist painting a picture and constantly consulting people with:
>Should I paint this House besides the river, or is the river to close?
>What's the perfect position of the sun?
>Should it be dawn?
>Or maybe even night?

Asking for Programmer stuff I can understand.
But so many art related things, it already feels like an other person is making the game and not you.
Ask for programming and coding questions. And then just do it.

Videogames are art do it like however you want to.

If it's shit it's shit. But at least it's your shit. And it came from your "handwriting" and not the collective opinion of AGDG of what is good and what is bad game design.

The AGDG hive mind is diluting all your games.

>>168163352
Lots of people on AGDG are still learning.

>>168163352
Videogames are products, you are naive.

>>168163352
bait

>>168163192
if you're going to have the camera move in the direction the player's facing you need more than 4 directions of movement or it's going to be jumping around like a motherfucker

STOP!

Why don't you use that filled in captcha to reply to some progress instead

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>>168162732
>implying it's not a suble attempt to fill the thread with anime
Nope. Have a 3D instead.

>>168163352
>Amateur
Guess what, if you're an amateur in anything you'll be asking questions. If you're a professional you won't be, which almost nobody here is.

>>168163549

Don't need to. I have a 4chan pass ;)

>>168163483
>products
>amateur game development

>>168163606
>amateur means bad
>professional means good

why anime? is it the "cute" girls? is it the fact they are not real and there can't disappoint you or reject you? is it that they like mecha and those tables that are also blankets? i dont get it

>>168160776
nice perspective

>>168163650
Are you retarded? Asking questions =/= bad.

>>168163650
>>168163683
bait

>>168163726
s/bad/impressionable
s/good/confident

>>168163726
>=/=
kys nodev

>>168163537
Noted.

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>>168161385
Almost. Gonna need all of the time. For now I shall sleep.

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>>168163352
>games r art u guys
>its ok if its shit, you made it so its speshul

>>168163192
It shouldn't move by itself. It should move when the player moves, just faster if you want it to look ahead.

>>168163650
you're missing the point, don't be an idiot

nobody becomes a painter in one day, they usually learn or train or teach themselves or attend an atelier or art school, etc, which involves asking basic questions like "how does composition work?" "what makes good color theory" etc

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well i have a very basic dialogue system put in.

definitely not gonna make it before comfy jam deadline though.

>>168163974
I know. But that has nothing to do with amateur/professional. An amateur can be highly skilled and confident while a professional can be learning a new skill or trying to broaden their appeal.

>>168164086
>An amateur can be highly skilled
do you even think about what you type before you type it, retard?

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Did a 46 hour game jam this weekend, here's a gfy from early in development.

>>168164551
>a person who engages in a pursuit, especially a sport, on an unpaid basis.
>engaging or engaged in without payment; nonprofessional.
"Amateur" meaning "unskilled" is derogatory. "Amateur" meaning "unpaid" is the proper use. If you're not making a living off your games (doesn't mean they have to be free) I would consider you amateur.

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>>168163352
No, agdg is working like artists, but like good artists, not the piece of shit useless art college graduates you propose.

>>168164737
nobody here is highly skilled. and if they are, they rarely ask questions. so I don't know what you're talking about

>>168164894

That guy making a flight simulator is a pro.

>>168164894
>if they are, they rarely ask questions
That's my point.

As opposed to:
>if you're an amateur in anything you'll be asking questions
>If you're a professional you won't be

>>168164624
>that gfycat webm filename

it's not your fault but I'm thoroughly disappointed

>>168164868
>tfw no gf to open jars for

So is there any way for people to tell I use a pirated version of FL studio and instruments? Kind of like how PDFs will have invisible watermarks?

I'm probably just being paranoid.

>>168163606
I'm not against asking questions. I just think it doesn't make sense when other people are designing someone elses game.

Often I read question that can not be easily answered with: You do it that way. It's question that totally depend on the direction his game is taking. But it is often answered by the "veteran" developers as if it's the only correct answer. And the newcommers will use all the input they get from AGDG and voila, AGDG designed your game and not you.

Example:
>AGDG, what genre should my game be?
>-make an RTS.
>AGDG, future, present or past?
>-future. It's the best.
>AGDG, my strongest unit should it be big?
>-yes, it's easier for the player to distinguish, and to see visually that it is strong.
There are Jedis in Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds, is it bad design because Jedis are strong but only human size?

>>168165629
yes

>>168165629
well people will be able to tell if you're using stock FL studio vsts and samples anyway and judge you accordingly

>>168165629
Thoroughly strip all metadata, then publish only in lossy formats to get rid of injected sample pattern signatures

What are some of the challenges of making a multiplayer game? I've heard netcode is really hard, is that true?

>>168166659
Getting enough of a playerbase to have people to play with.

>>168166659
It's not hard, it just requires you to understand what you're doing.
On the other hand, a regular game, you can get it to play fine without really knowing what you're doing.

>>168166659
I think the hardest part would be dealing with cheaters.

Anyone got experience with UE4 patching?

Is there anything I need to know?
I guess I should split up my .pak so I can update bits without replacing every asset?

>>168163869
please don't use /pol/ memes on agdg, it's counter productive.

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What did my dad mean by this?

>>168168336
Stop making visual novels anon.

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who wants to work on my mmorpg idea

it will be the best mmorpg around that is if i got the ressources

>>168163352
i agree but even if that werent the case....
why would anyone want the collective opinion of AGDG to decide their game?
i tend to assume anyone repeatedly requesting opinions is using it as a way to shill.

>"We would like to announce that we're shutting down our Patreon page"

Wait... what?
You can just shut down your patreon page like that after getting tons of money? Holy shit.

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more wepuns

textures and integration tomorrow

>>168169031
>i tend to assume anyone repeatedly requesting opinions is using it as a way to shill.
This, like when Ourobos (?) posted their concept art 5 times in the same thread to get feedback over minor things

>>168169207
Who did?

>>168168645
Is it like
Everquest,
Asherons Call
or Ultima Online ?

>>168169304

Turn off the subsurface modifier and show me how it looks.

>>168169347
What, do you not know who? And you call yourself a proud /agdg/ dev? Pshh.

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>>168169207
patreon has even less obligation to actually deliver than kickstarter and serves as an active incentive never to achieve anything

thanks internet

>>168169410
I dont really know what those games are but my game is set in either a contemporary environment or a futuristic one this will be determined by the lore but both can work

>>168169469
>And you call yourself a proud /agdg/ dev?
I don't

>>168160776
>Building a Metal Gear clone
> Does this even look remotely fun?

of course not

>>168169207

Why doesn't someone create a Patreon website which takes a slightly smaller cut from the profits? Everyone would use that website and the person making it would be a millionaire.

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>>168169464
that's the highpoly model.
lowpoly with baked normals will basically look like that except the handle will be pretty flat.

Gonna post it with textures tomorrow.
Until then here is the last weapon i did.

Are the burritogalaxy dudes from here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eG_8wdjefw

>>168165227
What's so bad about gfycat?

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>>168161385
Almost. I'm trying to get saving and loading working.

>>168169472
T-that is not very comfy

>>168169519
It were the big 3 mmorpgs back then.
Everquest is the World of Warcraft style of gameplay.
Ultima Online is the Sandbox mmorpg. Build houses, items, cut down trees. Lot's of roleplay.
Asheron's Call was more action heavy than the others.

If it's just a mechanical WoW or Everquest clone I won't find it much interesting.

There is so much you can do with the conept of Massivly Multiplayer Online - RPG or not - that it's kind of sad how everything is the same, mechanic wise.

>>168169519
>I dont really know what those games are

How old are you?

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>>168170363
My idea is completely original, for an mmorpg, so dont worry about that (and dont worry about it being unique just for the sake of being unique neither, it will be fun, immersive and all those qualities)

>>168170495
21, I mean I've only heard them by name but that's it

>>168159121
The original looked bulkier, like it had some weight. The new stuff has no weight. Looks like painted paper dolls.

The original also had a better information-to-noise ratio, my eye zeroed in on the character right away. The new background tile variation is too detailed and is distracting as hell.

In motion I might think otherwise, but I'm having a hard time considering it an improvement, anon.

>>168169480
>on kickstarter you get the money and leave, never delivering anything
>on patreon id you dont deliver regularly it's the money that leaves
how is kickstarter better?

>>168169761
they were.
too bad about what happened to them.

>>168170901
what happened to them? they got caught by the reddit?

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>>168163586
I suddenly feel motivated

In UE4, how would you make the same input either jump or sprint depending on whether it's kept held down WITHOUT introducing a delay to the jump?

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>>168169304

You suck lol.

Here's how you make a REAL weapon

>>168171241
ha

>>168170940
the shame of be "those guys" pimping a "game" that they hadn't even started making and had no idea what it was supposed to be.
the shame of nodev.
it's been 3 years.

>>168169809

The floor tile is a little weak right now IMHO, also I feel the yellow between the bricks is a little too bright, you want the floor to fade as much as possible.

>>168162297
Thanks anon.

>>168161896
Thanks for that information. I will think about it, but I'm not sure if that style is really wrong or if it's like "some games that I don't like were like that, so it's shit" kind of thing.

>>168170768
Thanks for feedback. I will have to do something about tiles probably or add more detail to character, I guess.

>>168171241
nice sward

>>168171120
So you want a jump if it's pressed, and a sprint if you hold?

>>168171501
Yeah.

>>168171382
so they just started making a game without knowing what they actually wanted to make?

hmm

>>168170781
on kickstarter you get a whole second wave of money when you release

on patreon if you finish a project and don't immediately follow it up with something else your patrons want just as much as the first thing, the money dries up

which means it's a system that actively encourages you to always progress and never finish, because that way people will keep giving you money for updates and you can coast on "it'll release one day" forever

you can only ever play the "kickstart then do nothing" scam once
you can run the "coasting on patreon" scam into the fucking ground and people will thank you for it

>>168161617
>Stealth games rely 100% on level design,
This is reductionist. Level design is extremely important but I'd say the clincher is giving the player feedback without giving them too much or by going into pure mechanics.

Loud footsteps and shadows that work to hide you as opposed to a noise and visibility meter kind of thing. It should be as close to instinctual as possible.

And while we're on that topic. AI is also very important.

>>168171596
That's tough because by definition you'll have to wait until the key is released to know what you're doing.

It'll depend on the game but you could try to blend a jump into a sprint.
Like always jump as soon as the key is pressed, if the key gets released then continue the jump.
If the key isn't released, move to a sprint. Starting a sprint often moves the character up a bit so you could try to 'style it out' with animations.

>>168171241
I deleted my project because oft this post.
It's gone.

>>168172046
You're right. Games only ever need mechanics with flat empty planes for the player to run around on.

>>168172256
ok, i will bite
how do you classify level design then? branch of architecture?

>>168172046
>>168172256
bait

>>168172384
idiot

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>>168172256

>>168172256
>what is Thief?

>>168172052
I had a similar idea for charged attacks, surprised it didn't occur to me to turn it around like that. Thanks for the tip, I'll fuck around with the animations then.

>>168172256
>>168172443
can you guys stop replying to this obvious bait thanks

he shit up last thread too

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>>168160513
sorry, I took it down because it wasn't very good. it was just barely a game, felt more like an interactive experience

please look forward to wizardcat instead, it's already 10 times as fun even though it's just 2 weeks into development

>>168171853
you're conflating shitters with non-shitters
shitters want the money, the platform doesnt matter, they'll scam their money.
for non-shitters, on kickstarter they didn't get enough money to cover them to the finish of the game because it took longer than expected but they keep chugging along and as they go into financial trouble it results in them losing months and months more time
whereas on patreon they overshoot their planned finish date but not by much because people are seeing their progress and supporting them and once they finish they move on to the next project.

do you people work alone or you have a small team?

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So I decided to rewrite my game because fuck. Focusing more on the engine now instead of getting impatient and implementing gameplay shit. So, now the asset loading is a lot nicer, I get access to the whole sprite set, and things are animated now.

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weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

it worked the first time i had this amazing idea,then i tried over 50 times to film it and failed every single time. this was the closest one.

>>168173130
FUN DOESN'T MATTER IF IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE DINO COOKING MAMA

I NEED THIS

>>168173760
People like you are the reason the game is bad

>>168173130
please don't drop wizardcat
that character is just too precious

>>168171631
>knowing what you want to make
literally the hardest part of gamedev

>>168173802
people like you are the reason the game is dead

>>168173835
I think it's actually the most obvious part (as in you should write down what you wanna do before even starting) but im more of a game designer and not a gamedev I cant code or anything

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>>168173130
Bring Tracy and her frog companion as an NPC into Wizardcat, maybe as a shop, or a one freebie item per encounter sorta vendor. She's too cute to just leave out.

You could give her and the frog little wizard hats.

>>168173130
but why take it down though? you gain absolutely nothing from taking it down and lose having a project up?

even if you dont like it you should own up to it

>>168173130
>>168174212
This but make her own a restaurant with food that can heal or give status effects

>>168173101
Sword-tier

>>168174440
I was thinking about suggesting that too, magic food items for heals/buffs/effects

It doesn't count as a (You) if you're replying to yourself, you know.

Ignore and report.

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>>168174226
if I could leave it up only for agdg I would, but I don't want other people finding it

>>168173829
thank you!

>>168174212
froggy at least is definitely making a cameo

I dont know why you guys shit on the level designers, a game definitely needs a level designer, unless all you want is one single dude who makes his own game

but what if we have a dude working on a AAA project? you just want the game designer?

>>168175240
>if I could leave it up only for agdg I would, but I don't want other people finding it
Why? Please don't abandon Tracy-chan.

>>168175415
>you guys
>guys
>s

>>168175524
?

>>168175240
I one day hope I can inspire waifufag autists to act embarrassing in the same way you do. You're an inspiration.

>>168175580
It's a singular shitposter.

>>168175793
what does it mean to be a game dev? as far as i know people here just make a game by themselves but it's bad

>>168175580
it's a samefag

Is there any overhead building sim game with a good controller set up?

How does one make it not terrible?

>>168173101
anon...

>>168176185
by the controller being a mouse

>>168148115
-Make boss fights harder
-Higher crafting levels
-Make more tools

Should literally take less than an hour if I'm being very productive.

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>>168175485
I almost made a long ass autistic post but the tldr is I still love her design and the concept, I just need actual game design before I jump back into it

is it collectible or collectable?

>>168176819
Collectible.

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>>168173305
Who else wants to command a pixie colony

>>168176819
It's cble because the word's too long

how do i meet artists irl?

>>168177000
go to any university with an art course

Write a thing and it works great!

Save and shutdown, go do non dev things for a bit, comeback and NullReferenceExceptions all over the place, spend an hour rewriting the whole thing, and it still doesn't work.

That's enough gamedev for today! Haha!

>>168148115
Drastically increase the quality of my art so the prototype stops looking like a prototype so probably nothing to post in this thread since I don't want to artblog every little change I make and upset people in the process

>>168175240
>but I don't want other people finding it
Why? Is polished as fuck, the controls work perfectly, models are good, and the animations are great. Just leave it there and describe it as an experiment/proof of concept instead of a game if you want.

Say I've got an item which, when it's created, may or may not be assigned to a certain other item (and different things happen depending on if it is or not)

Is it better to check if that other item is null every frame, or keep a bool which is set on initialization and check that instead?

is it possible for an ARPG to have good combat?

So what is it exactly? He dropped the dino girl because he was ashamed or something?

>yet another model which is going to rot in the artist's hdd and eventually be deleted

My legs ache.

>>168177598
Yes? Have you never played an ARPG?

All you need to do is make it an RPG and add in DMC combat and perfection.

See: Nier Automata.

Honorable mention to Tales of.

>>168177652
Drink more water. Eat a banana.

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>>168177598
ARPG is a broad term.

I've been looking for ages about how to make my zelda-arpg combat fun so if you have any ideas just drop them.

But if you're thinking about ARPG like >>168177750 then he gave you the answer already.

Who here is making a horror game?

>>168159121
It looks more modern and a bit more stylized. It's not pretty but you can swing it.

>>168159121
a lot better, make the background a bit darker/more desaturated though

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r8 my concept art

>>168178180
I'm making a Metroid Prime like (not Theonian) so there will obviously be some horror aspects.

>>168178327
>>168178434
Thanks guys. Feedback like that means a lot for me.

>tfw 3d modeling is time consuming and exhausting

I think a rhythm game would be fun as hell to make, but the only ones I've played are DDR, AudioSurf, and Guitar Hero/Rock Band. I'm also aware of Beat Hazard and Crypt of the NecroDancer. What other ones are worth looking into if I want a feel for the genre and what it can do?

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>>168176793
tfw all aboard the implicit surfaces train
tfw traceydev keeps posting beautiful polygom shit

I want to get into game dev but have absolutely no artistic talent. Are there artists out there who want to colab?

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>>168179716
I will

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>>168179484

I disagree.

>>168179568
>Necrodancer
Really good

>Vib Ribbon
>Parappa the Rapper
>Taiko
>OSU/Elite Beat Agents
>Bemani
Worth checking out, some of them are 2weeb but still solid games

>Beat Hazard
not worth checking out

>>168177651
Why? Dino girl was hot. Idc if that means he was a furry.

>>168179878
i said 3d modeling not meme modeling

>>168179887
DJ hero too, although most of those games (i.e. plastic instrument) are included in the bemani group.

>>168179716
learn to draw m8 its not that hard
talent isnt real

>>168177652
Could be gout if you haven't been eating well or getting all the nutrients you need.

>>168177652
Nice, leg day is tomorrow for me

>>168179887
>>168180040
Also add Gitaroo man to the
>really good
one

>>168179716

me desu

>>168179887
>putting necrodancer above the OSU games
Indies fans really are biased.

>>168176793
what's the max amps on that pot outlet?

>>168177651
It's great for (Yous) and tumblr likes, but he couldn't see a way to make into a real game.
Like Catmouth Island. That dev is dead now. We don't want tracy's dev to die, do we?

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>>168179980

What's wrong with my apple?

>>168175240
>but I don't want other people finding it

why? i literally do not understand this line of reasoning. just put a disclaimer that it was an experimental jam game and leave it at that. no need to decide what is and isn't worthy of our time if we wanna give your old game a shot, anon

>>168180215
got a tumblr?

>>168180190
I complained about the catmouth island models being lost a waste.
I will also complain about the dinogirl.

As a programmer it just saddens me.

>>168179887
vib ribbon and parappa are SO GOOD and have really unique artstyles

also rhythm tengoku

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>>168180182
I don't like OSU's gameplay. It's worth checking out if you're investigating rhythm games, though.
Necrodancer blends rhythm with roguelike gameplay, and it's pretty damn good at that.

Also never forget pic related

>>168180164
What sort of game?