/lite/ - Roguelite general

Bullet hell is hard.

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>>168050060
Fucking High Priest raped my ass, leaving me with 1 armour to do the forge. My ass cheeks are still clamped together.

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You have to post that single time you fucked it up beyond repair at a Roguelite with such an obvious thing you still don't know why you made that mistake.

>FTL
>Playing with the second layout of the Engi ship; the one with one crew and just drones.
>Managed to get a human from a wreckage and bought a teleport station because it appeared early and I wanted to try that approach.
>Fighting an all-human pirate ship.
>It's down to one crewmember and two hull points. no fires nor hull breaches.
>Teleport my two crewmates.
>"I know i can pull this out".
>Suddently, i realize we were on an asteroid field.
>Had two layers of shields so it never crossed my mind.
>Never.
>Until a meteorite hit that ship and the second one was nearing it just when they teleported in.

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so how do I beat ultra hard? just R for mantle/satanic bible/tech x?

>>168052658
pro tip: don't play engi B until you're really good at the game

>>168052658
>I'll go double fire beam, it'll be fun!
it's never fun
it just fucking sucks

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What does /lite/ think of Pixel Dungeon?

>>168054303
A shit.

How to mantis ship in FTL

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Anyone got the version of this but with Melting?

>>168056923
For A, put the engi in engines and have a mantis piloting. Send the other two on other ships. When you start getting more crew, replace the mantis pilot ASAP and teleport all the rock/mantises you have.
For B, SEND FUCKING EVERYONE.
C, I don't really like. Use the Lanius on AI ships or with the hacking module on oxygen to choke the enemy. Other than that, treat it like mantis B.

>>168050786

>61 total deaths
>robot's past cleared

Well, Golly Gee willikers, get a load of this filthy skiller. Ayy everyone, we got one of em of them "Gamers" over here.

good job destroying all humans

>>168058131
>robot actually regrets not killing the last human alive
why tho

>>168058514

For him, he was letting his entire race down. It's still pretty funny though, because after the last human dies, they all power down, making it all pointless anyways

Also
>yfw Robot's alt costume

>tfw played Gungeon for 20 hours
>tfw made it to the Dragun twice in that time
Am I just destined to be a shitter forever?

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sometimes you just need to go back

>not hard mode
I know, but jesus christ hard in original isaac is way harder than rebirth

>>168059103
I'm nearing 30 hours and been to the Forge once.

>>168059103

>20 hours and he's made it to Dragun twice

nigger, go brag somewhere else.

No, seriously. That's good. You're clearly learning pretty fast if that's the case. EtG is a hard game.

>>168054303
Shattered and sprouted are my favorite versions.

>>168059339
Oh, nice. Here I thought I was just a shitty player.
Current stats are:
50/50 first chamber
25/40 second chamber
11/30 third chamber
2/20 fourth chamber
0/10 fifth chamber

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I love casey.

>>168059114
>Brimstone two heart devil deal
>takes the deal with one red heart and a few soul hearts
>automatically dies

I'm not sure what I did wrong but I wasn't expecting that.

>>168059932
Devil Deals were reworked in Afterbirth.

>>168057419
I had a run where I would kill all the crew of the other ship with weapons and I would get loads of scraps. Why is mantis boarding giving me less scrap than that

>>168059979
In rebirth too. They left you alive, but removed all your soul hearts, so you essentially became the lost that could gain health.

>>168060074
You're right there, too.

>>168060065
Early sectors give less scrap. Keep boarding and you'll have a fuckton of scrap by mantis boarding.

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piercing, spectral tears by cave I. also, remember when familiars were worth a damn?

>>168059932
You tried to cheat the devil m8
Yeah there's quite a bit in Vanilla that was changed in Rebirth. Some good (secret rooms don't close again, polaroid is an item, etc.) and some bad

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>>168060797
jesus christ how horrifying

>>168060193
game keeps throwing auto-scouts
it aint fun

>>168061495
>>168061495
you got a basic laser, upgrade teleporter to 2, send in mantises to shield, teleport them back before they suffocate and destroy it
unless you're playing mantis B, then you're fucked

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Wew lads.

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>moms knife + mars

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i did it!
why doesnt beating the flagship unlock something?

>>168065764
It unlocks the Federation cruiser if you didn't have it before.

>>168066052
huh,it didnt unlock for me for some reason
also i started playing red-tail and is there a way to redirect all the laser at once with a shortcut?

>>168065764
doesn't it unlock the engi ship

>>168068974
engi ship is unlocked by reaching sector 5

more like /casuals/

/rlg/ - alpha men
/lite/ - beta men

it's quite simple

>>168070667
There are no rivalry between playerbases though

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>>168070667
shit i just got cyberbullied

>>168070876
One time we renamed /lite/ to /rlg/ for one thread to see what happens. Only 2 days later some /rlg/ dude posted his progress.

>>168070667
more like stop being a falseflagging shitposter

>>168059103
At least you didn't:
-Reach the golden giant idol in Spelunky after 1800 hours of trial and error.
-Reach your first loop after 1200 deaths, with Robot, of all the characters.
-Dropped UnderRail the first time you played it because you didn't invest enoguh in how to make health hypos after going down.
You are not >>168052658 (Me)

Some people have it worse than you. Get over it.

>>168065764
Because you already unlocked Engi ship.
Now beat it with Engi to unlock the next one.
Or go around and unlock the others with a little luck.

>can't survive the second sector as mantis ship in FTL
brb crying

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>forget to grab the bullet as Convict
>Game does me a solid on my second run and gives me the most busted fucking gun in the game

I unlocked this yesterday and what the fuck was dodge roll thinking, this invalidates everything beyond no hit boss challenges

You can continue on after blue womb and go onto Mega Satan, can I do that after beating Delerium? I don't see any way out

>beat Delirium as The Lost
>can't get a good Keeper Run going to save my life

Is there no hope?

>>168073605

Nope, Delirium is the finish line.

>>168075180
Yet there's only a 50% chance to fight him after Satan.
I'm getting sick of steak.

>>168075920

The steak is even tougher with the special characters.

>unless your 1st two floor items rooms were the shit, it takes way too long to get a Keeper run going, missing the Hush fight

Shit sucks and I still have to do Greedier mode with everyone.

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>>168076029
>Epic Fetus on Basement II
>somehow survived triple missile blasts without the Swallowed Penny

Man that guy gets shit done way too slowly. I found getting to Boss Rush as Keeper even harder than getting to Hush because those 10 extra minutes really make a huge difference.

>>168077160

Looks nice. I just wish that they buffed the chances of getting the portal instead of fighting damage sponge Hush.

So as it turns out, the AI for those Lava Worms in Antibirth's Mines are retarded on par with Nicalis.
>They are coded to always pop up as close as possible to you
>If you have flying, they can pop up right on top of you
>Just lost a great Lost Run because they popped up right next to the opening door, then I flew up and they popped up right on top of me over the lava

What items could Isaac do without?

King baby sucks. It would be a cooler item if it made all familiars stack onto on spot behind isaac (or just move all familiars be absorbed by king baby.)

>>168080757
>(or just move all familiars be absorbed by king baby.)
If it makes you feel any better, there's a mod that adds a new familiar that does exactly that. It even gets special cosmetics based on what it absorbs, and you get it for free at the start of a new floor if you have 2 or more familiars.

>>168080984
link?

>>168080194
data miner
polydactyly
belly button
king baby
isaac's tears
camo undies

>>168081225
Workshop's broken right now.

>>168081306
>belly button
>Implying holding 2 trinkets is a bad thing to be redundant

>>168081225
I think something's up with the workshop right now, but IIRC the mod was called "Lost Plushie" or somesuch.

>>168081549
it doesn't belong because it's literally just a duplicate of a currently existing item. mom's purse.

>>168081306
I like Camo Undies. Placing Bombs doesn't blow the cover if I remember right. So before Chest/Dark Room you can bomb your way through rooms without being tagged, which can come in handy for those Momma's Boy / Dead Boy achievements if you don't have them already.
Belly button is good because 2 trinkets.
Polydactyly has better variants, can be done without.
Remove Data Miner, Isaac's Tears, and King Baby.

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>>168081693

Is Risk of Rain talk allowed in here?

>>168081926
that game took up a good year of my life

>>168082061
Should I even think of turning the difficulty to Drizzle? I only got to level 5 once so far in my 7 hours of game time. Have Enigma artifact unlocked, as well as Engineer Bandit Enforcer.

>>168082370
unlock all artifacts first on whatever difficulty you feel comfortable on and then the real fun begins

ANTIBIRTH UPDATE FUCKING WHEN

I can download Anti separately so that I can play both After+ and Anti correct?

>>168077435
Yeah, I'm working on Eve and I've wasted two great runs due to not being fast enough or lucky enough to get it to spawn after any boss fight. Not looking forward to beating it with the lost.

But I did break a run yesterday and beat Delirium with a Clickered Keeper. I felt like a cheap piece of scum but hey, it worked.

>>168081306
>camo undies
>forever alone and gemini a few floors later
>enemies don't react after taking damage from non-tear sources

I actually had some fun killing perpetually dazed enemies with my crappy attack orbitals.

>>168080194
All of them.

>>168085903
Yes.
>Turn off AB and AB+
>Install Antibirth
>It installs to its own Antibirth folder with its own .exe
>Reenable AB and AB+ if you wish

>>168059918
is that oc? it's fuckin great

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Just downloaded Enter the Gungeon. Any beginner tips?

>>168080194
D10
Pageant Boy
Monster Manual
Isaac's Tears
The Wiz
King Baby
Leo

>>168059918
wtf is this

>>168089150
I forgot Lemon Mishap

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remember when angel challenge rooms were a thing?

>>168089471
No, because I never played that garbage add-on.

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>>168089124
Prepare to die.
Legitimately, a lot unless you're really fucking good at video games.
If you can handle it, be sure to kill the Boss before opening any Chests.
If you remember to, check the Shop before picking up any keys.
After you find this dude,be prepared to make runs exclusively to make him happy.
>>168089471
Eternal Update.
Given Angel Rooms were decent back then, they weren't nearly as good as they could be in Re/after/+.

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>>168082580
I managed to get Glass.
Ohhhhhh boooooooy.

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>>168090546

>>168089124

Don't dodge roll unless you have no other option. If you execute a bad dodge roll (i.e. you think you're going to get hit during the lag after the dodge roll) it's better to blank than get hit, so work on building that habit up (especially in bosses).

If you can perfect a boss (no damage, this includes taking armor damage) you are highly likely to get a good item, and on top of that you gain a master round, which gives you an extra heart container.

There are two chests on each floor, one of them is guaranteed to be a gun, the other is guaranteed to be a passive or active use item.

Early on in a run (or even later if you find yourself needing more keys), consider leaving keys on the ground until you've found your shop. If you get to your shop on the floor without picking up a key for said floor the shop is very likely to have one or more keys available. This is useful because keys are highly desirable and are the main source of your guns and items.

You can't leave anything on the ground aside from keys, hearts, chests, and blanks. Be prepared for that fact, and keep it in mind when things like ammo and armor spawn after clearing a room, and also when swapping actives.

ALWAYS Mimic check. Every time you see a chest, either from a room spawn or one of the guaranteed two on the floor, fire a warning shot (from your default pistol so you don't waste ammo) and make sure it hits the chest and it has no reaction. If you shoot a hiding mimic, it will wake up and attack by sending a double damage bullet at you that splits into more when it collides with terrain. Always be cautious when mimic checking and make sure you're prepared to react to it's shot when you check.

Some chests can have a fuse spawn on them, which will burn slowly and then explode the chest. If you have a weapon that creates water puddles, poison creep puddles, or ice, you can extinguish the fuse. Useful for when you have no key. Chests with fuses can be mimics, always check them.

>>168090546
>Infusion
disgusting

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>>168087067
Tried installing it into my Rebirth folder but it keeps crashing at startup.
Looked into the Antibirth folder and there's a whole shitload of files that look like this, which just by looking at it seems wrong. I compared it to a YouTube video and his is much more clean looking and has 1/3 of the files I do.

What the fuck am I doing wrong?

>>168090689
Took longer than 5 seconds for him to die. Shame.

>>168091072
This is my first Glass run dude. I just got the artifact an hour ago.

>>168093607
The knowing I share a General with you makes me deeply desire to vomit profusely.

>>168093764
What?

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>>168085903
>>168091660
I put my big boy pants on and figured it out and fixed it.

Will "unchecking" Afterbirth+ ruin my daily completion streak? I'm at ~17 and will commit suicide if I had to start over again

>>168094983
Not if you back up your save.

>>168095182
my saves are backed up to the cloud™
am I safe

Crystal Ball or Book of Sin?

>>168095494
I like Crystal Ball more.
Map display + soul heart or card is better imo

>>168095479
No.
Physically back them up to another spot on your PC.
>>168095494
Ball.
Unless you're good on HP and desperately need random consumables.

>>168095643
>No.
you better be fucking memeing me because I'm going to flip my shit

I'm probably just going to Steam Achievement Manager it since Marathon is the last achievement I have left

>Mom's Eye + Mom's Knife
>Tfw spinning the control stick and just becoming a room-clearing tornado

>>168095961
Just SAM it. It's a monumentally fucking stupid achievement.

>>168095961
>memeing me
I've relied on the cloud before.
For Isaac, it never remembers even if I set it to remember.

>doing Family Man challenge, finding it kinda comfy because it's so slow
>then get Fish Tail and my DPS goes up a lot
>soon after that, get Guppy's Head
Time to see if I'll be able to have fun as well with the Guppy challenge, I guess.

A pity, I usually like rats.

>>168097219
>Guppy Challenge
>Incubus on first Devil Deal

I had fun

Of course the first three attempts before those were even more frustrating than the Brains challenge

Fucking christ I cannot beat EtG as the Robot, I hate this character archetype especially if the not-health it uses is so fucking rare.

I might just Sorceress blessing and use my shortcut to start at hollow

>>168089685
Why kill a boss before opening chests? Does it guarantee a passive?

>>168103948
Grants a gun

>>168060797
>and some bad
Like?
Not exceeding 12 hearts, which you could easily get 12 red hearts max and a fuckton of soul hearts?
Boss challenge rooms not giving a guaranted item anymore?
Not being able to cheese Sacrificial rooms with Book of Shadows or any invincibilty item?
Yea, all those changes sucked

>>168059114
Eternal edition is gay as fuck. I don't blame you.

>>168100249
Brains is worse, Cat got your Tongue is mostly spinning around to make the Hairball to work

>>168107112
>>168100249
>Shitty unfun challenges

Let's talk about Speed

>>168107342
How about all of the ones in AB+? They're either not challenging, like Pong, or fucking bullshit, like Ultra Hard.

>>168108036
Well yeah I just figured those were taken as read

>on d20 shrine rolled movement speed up and reload time down
>muscle relaxant + M1 on 1.0.7 meaning triple damage
>metronome and lots of ammo drops to wrek mobs
>enter dragun fight with full life and 5 armor
>is it time? will I finally slay the fucker?
>jammed

>>168108197
The high curse life

Meanwhile now that I've breached 24 hours I can finally clear to hollow/forge pretty consistently. Killed three pasts between yesterday and today but got stonewalled on trying to beat robot. Think my hand hurts from all the clicking

>>168101210
I know that feeling. I got a lucky run a few days ago but then fucked up the past in a panic. I'm still salty over it.

I might just try a few blessed runs as one of the other characters to unlock gunther. That thing would even make the robot easy if I had the luck to find it.

>>168101210
Really? His starter gun carries you to level 4 just fine.

>>168111102
It starts feeling weak by floor three though.
Not him, but the problem I have is fucking up. I keep perfecting complicated rooms full of bullet pattterns everywhere, only to lose health to something stupid a few rooms later. Ghosts teleporting right next to me also seems to happen a lot.

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>>168050060
>Try the sacrifice room in antibirth
>Use up 3 lost cat lives
>Use up 6 hearts that were on the ground
>Still nothing
>Look it up, sacrifice rooms literally just give one(1) chest and only if you have exactly and only half a red heart

This is so garbage. Backport when?

Will Plan C kill only the first phase of Mega Satan or both?

>>168112995
dude i LOVE this jojo reference :D

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Which items are good enough to spam R for, other than Special Items like Mom's Knife, Ludovico, Mutant Spider, etc?

>>168113454
epic jojo reference dude, keep them coming ;)

Is it worth going to oubliette while gathering key/money for shortcut? I'm too shit to go to abbey. I dont think it's worth getting 2 more keys for 1 floor.

>>168113357
>>168113496
dude... JoJo reference...?

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Two chests right next to one another. Is this common?

>>168114135
Yes

>>168108036
>Pong
I still can't understand why they thought that adding Slow Roll 2: Roll Slower was a good idea.

>>168113638
He's the local autist. Any pictures from an anime gets greeted with that. I assume he's concerned about this general dying from hitting the image limit, where it's much more likely to die due to lack of traffic.

>>168114859
nah, i just really dislike unrelevant weebshit, which has no place on a roguelite general (unless there is an animu roguelite, but there is not)

best character for challenge mode ?
if I clear it I'm done

So I dug around the necrodancer amplified files and I found a couple of sprites.
>medic NPC
>possibly an upgrade to the ogre
>crystal skeletons
>tar balls
>tiny slimes
>black slimes
>shield and golden heart familiar
Pretty cool stuff.

Rip Isaac, fuck you Edmund for not giving him a shot at a happy ending

>>168113626
That's how I got the money and keys to repair the final floor's elevator. But I was also lucky with loot and key drops, so I can't say if the secret floor had much of an impact, outside of the railgun I found after killing The Blobulon General

>>168058131
Nah m8. I'm a filthy pirate and recently did a fresh download. I played gungeon like a year or two ago.

>>168122818
>game released 2016
well fuck it feels longer

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>>168095961
So I used SAM for the Deification achievement but it isn't unlocking. Am I doing something wrong? Never used SAM before.
I ticked the boxes for Dedication and 1000000%, clicked Unlock All Achievements, but when I exit it my achievements are still locked.
Is my game supposed to be running?

>>168123654
scratch that just figured out I had to click "store". I thought "store" brought me to store achievements or something like a retard
I can finally rest

>>168107112
I agree in the sense that Brains was more challenging, but the Hairball gimmick was far more fucking annoying to deal with

>>168107342
>Epic Fetus
>bomb all the doors open

That one took like five times more tries than Ultra Hard

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Just reinstalled NT for nostalgiasies
Man I really miss /ntg/ it was honestly the most fun general I've ever been in.
Anyways I was gonna ask, is the NT modding guy still alive?
Did he finish it? I'm curious.

>>168116372
>tar balls
Probably like those Zone 5 water elementals, but they spawn Zone 2 mud instead of water.

>black slimes
Oh, I wonder what pattern those guys would move around in. Maybe a 3x3 square or a cross?

>shield
Protection from one side like the Skeletons, neat. Hopefully it's not too OP or they make it exclusive to a new character.

>>168125132
Since both the heart and the shield is gold, I'm gonna guess it's gonna be exclusive to one character. Maybe it works like isaac's heart?

>>168122904
It does feel like Gungeon has been out for longer. But its still less than a year old.

I wonder how long it'll take before they add a bunch of stuff that breaks the game.

>>168126302
>Maybe it works like Isaac's heart?
That could actually be kind of interesting if it trailed behind you by mimicking all your moves and you had to protect it.

I thought they were going to work like Isaac's golden hearts that drop gold upon being hit, seeing as they already implemented Soul Hearts (in the form of cursed hearts).

Mei is a pretty fun character, weird voice choice though
any other fun character mods?

>it turns out Gungeon bosses have a dps limiter
Well, that's stupid. Where's the fun in getting a stupid op run if bosses still take at least a full minute to kill?

>>168128873
>getting a stupid op run
you're playing the wrong game. try isaac.

>>168128873
The DPS limiter and the hidden Magnificence stat stop the game from being a 10 for me.
Magnificence is especially annoying: get one of the worst black chest guns or items and it doesn't matter, you're getting green chest or lower items from then on in the run.

The only way around this is the seven leaf clover, the item that ignores magnificence and makes all chests black or red.

>>168129450
on the flipside its what makes the game a 10 for me. fuck lmao OP isaac shit.

>>168129672
Black chests are rare anyway. A stat designed to ration them if you're even lucky enough to find one is bullshit.

>>168124190
Yes, no.
NT Ultra is in a very playable state tho.

>>168129872
like i said before, if want crazy OP seven leaf clover runs go play isaac. it prevents rare items from spawning too but not to the extent that you won't be able to go to sleep while playing the game because you got so overpowered you can instantly kill everything.

>>168129291
I don't want every run to be dumb, but on the rare ocassions where it does happen, I want to actually see the difference.

>>168129672
there's a difference between all RNG not being against you and runs taking no effort 90% of the time
all the mechanics in gungeon are built to punish the player for nothing, especially if they're getting lucky in a ROGUELITE. i don't like how it's so easy to get an OP run in isaac either, but that doesn't make gungeon better (after all gungeon is the better game anyway)

>>168130062
>unlock most characters, at like 60% completion
>game crashes, progress erased
not exactly what i would call "playable"

>>168130718
>game crashes, progress erased
That has literally never happened to me.
Crashes, yes. But only lose progress from latest run.

>>168130662
>I want to actually see the difference.
you can, it's just very rare. duct tape + makeshift cannon type stuff exists.

>>168130798
Well it happened to me, killed all my good feelings for it.
Like it wasn't bad anyway that my 100% from nuclear throne was erased.

>>168130718
>all the mechanics in gungeon are built to punish the player for nothing
no, they're built to make the game consistently challenging.

>>168130983
>get a good gun that isn't the based yari launcher
>hurr doesn't matter because bosses have DPS cap
>get a shitty gun from a rare chest
>hurr no rare chests for the entire run, not to mention that they don't appear most of the runs
That's not challenging, that's boring.
I want the game to reward me like the good boy I am.

>>168130983
>Having to wait 2 extra seconds to kill a basic enemy is challenging
Bullet Sponges do not make a game more challenging, complex combat patterns do.
>Boss HP scales based off your best gun and there's an upper DPS limit per-floor
Combination of forced minimum duration fights and shitty bullet sponges = combination of challenging and needless tedium, but mostly the latter, this isn't a Bullet Hell game, it's a Rogue-lite with a hitbox and mechanics to match
>Rat doesn't make the game harder, it just punishes you for ammo conservation and smart thinking about how and when to get hurt, and when to open chests because anything that pops out will be stolen immediately if not taken
Blah blah blah, ur wrong.

>>168131135
>get a good gun that isn't the based yari launcher
yari launcher is complete shit. you're awful at this game aren't you?

>>168131135
>>168131424
>fights are too long so i get hit, the rat steals all my shit, the game is too punishing waaaaaaa
>i get bored because i die so often
>neo /v/

>Actually defending shitty design choices that make the game worse overall
I was unaware Dodgeroll actually paid people to defend their game.
>Inb4 they do it for free

>>168131429
for regular enemies, maybe
but for bosses it's the best gun besides the makeshift cannon
i bet you think that casey is a shit weapon as well

>>168131570
wow you sure showed me with your buzzwords, mr. i'm better than everyone

Is Enter The Gungeon anything like Nuclear Throne? They look the same to me.

Does it still get updates or is it "finished"

>>168131905
>the shit weapons are good
100% chance gunther is your favorite weapon and bullet is your favorite character

>>168131919
>Is Enter The Gungeon anything like Nuclear Throne?
No

>Is it "finished"
Nuclear Throne is """"""""""finished"""""" (abandonware)

>>168132015
>my tastes are OBJECTIVELY better than your tastes
sure feels like /v/ in here
but tell me your favorite weapon then

>>168131919
etg is finished and has less bullshit, but is much slower

>>168131919
Gungeon is still getting updates.
Mostly patches and fixes, but they recently added a sizable Supply Drop update for free which gives the 2 secret characters unique endings and adds a handful of new stuff, which is pretty bonkers compared to the stuff that was already in.

The game itself is far-removed from the blood-pumping chaos of Radioactive Chair tho.
It's not bad by any means, but it's not for everyone.
>Combat is considerably slower
>You can carry as many guns as you want, but ammunition for them is very limited unless you stack up on Curse, only your basic Pistol has unlimited Ammo
>Each level can take as long as a NT run if you can consistently loop once and only once in NT
Etc.

>>168132276
>Gungeon is still getting updates.
They're doing a larger paid DLC next supposedly

why no one talking about this?
https://vimeo.com/203014674

any tips for playing red-tail?should i switch my weps eventually or focus on upgrading my ship?

>>168132661
Because it's not a rogue-lite.
It's turn-based tactics.

>>168132595
source on this ?

>>168132661
there was a little of discussion a thread ago
it looks really cool and i'm absolutely going to buy it, mostly because i fucking loved FTL

>>168132723
the 4 basic lasers are amazing, but when you find better weapons, think about replacing them

>tfw you find a ship that can't break your shield and you have a weak weapon that won't damage their hull
>farming xp on my weapons, pilot and engine crew at my 1st sector
neato

>>168132860
i forget where i read it but a quick google search turned this up:

https://twitter.com/DodgeRollBrent/status/745025449378586624

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>>168131919
>Is Enter The Gungeon anything like Nuclear Throne?
Not at all. NT is fast paced, rewarding and damn fun to broke with OP builds and enemies popping like popcorn 2nd to 3rd loop. It's a chaotic action game and it delivers damn good.
Gungeon is slow, long as hell and way too RNG reliant. It also punishes you for things like;
-Getting hit ONCE
-Trying to save pickups
-thinking things through
It wants you to be perfect or you won't get a decent build unless you're really lucky.
Gungeon has better framerate and generally looks a little better than NT

>>168133018
>june 20 2016

Maybe he was talking about supply drop ?

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Delerium keeper is killing me

I just want to be done with it so I don't have to play him for a long time. I've been grinding keeper runs for too long.

>>168133385
>way too RNG reliant
>I'm complete shit at Gungeon the post
If you think Gungeon is RNG reliant, you're really bad at it or you've never played it.

Legitimately who the fuck is paying you.

>>168132860
>>168133428
I got you my dude https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/08/31/enter-the-gungeon-supply-drop-content-update/

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>>168133875
That's really good to hear mate
Also
>just unlocked chaos bullets because it's my 20th try

>>168134179
do you still get the achievement that way?

My isaac is crashing after the intro sequence, i've uninstalled all mods, installed and reinstalled the game, still doesn't work.
anybody have some advice?

>>168133630
Yeah I occassionally get hit at bosses so when I get to the last boss I have 6-8 less health than you which makes a huge fucking difference.
I also get all health pickups from bosses becasue I got hit once.
Yeah I know it's all my fault I shouldn't have gotten that one hit on the entire floor.

>>168108036
Assbackwards is weird, April Fools was good except when you picked cards and you got Suicide King or Plan C on any active item, Pokeymans was better than I though, Pong is bad.

>>168134325
Nope
And it's my last one too

>>168134507
>getting hit ever
why do you even play games, neo /v/ scum

>>168134507
>getting hit and losing the master round
wew lad

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK THIS FIGHT

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>>168135180
>>168135504
I don't get hit anymore though cause I long stopped playing that borefest.

>>168135919
yeah, that fight sucks ass

>>168135945
very nice jojo reference, i like it

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>>168136148
did someone say jojo reference?

>>168135945
>I am bad and mad so the game is boring
>classic neo /v/

>>168136506
I don't think being able to get to the last boss in first 10-15 runs is bad but whatever makes you sleep at night buddy.

Legitimately, who the fuck is paying you to shill.

>>168136148
>bitching about weebshit
>4chan
What did he mean by this?
If you seriously think there's no such thing as an animu roguelite, you clearly aren't looking hard enough. I guarantee Japan's produced plenty.

>>168136694
>the last boss
Yeah, and I bet you think mom is the last boss of Isaac.

>>168137124
>Implying His Natural Defenses isn't the final boss
>Implying that Krass-Skull is real

>BoI
>can't do the daily run
>can't even practice
>I'm pretty sure my Dedication streak is already broken
the fuck?

>>168137124
Ok how's this "The boss that comes before the actual truest true boss of the game that is truly different for every character" better now? Glad to be able to satisfy your autism.

>>168137378
>he doesn't know about the lich

>>168137378
>"The boss that comes before the actual truest true boss of the game that is truly different for every character"
>inb4 he backtracks and claims to have defeated the lich even though he clearly doesn't know it exists
just lmao my shit up senpai

>>168136694
While others are being stupid autistic, beating a Past in 10-15 runs is insanely good.

>>168137872
t.samefriend

So i see we are beset by cancer today.
I think I'm gonna take a day off from /lite/.

>>168137260
is it grayed out or something?

>>168136894
Downwell is from Japan but it isn't animu.

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>>168137796
I already said that I don't play that shit anymore, why would I lie?
Do you really think I would waste my time going through shit that I already claimed I find boring as hell for every character, possibly several times?
Are you aware that you're trying to trash on someone who doesn't even play the game you're talking about?
Are you stupid?

>>168138483
nigga real talk, why are you unironically responding to that bait

I love Gungeon, but Robot and challenge mode are trying my patience.

>>168139470
They're going to change challenge mode in a few weeks.

>>168114407
They were running out of ideas

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Fucking finally
Thanks game for giving me a win on the second floor and for making this a 1 hour and a half run

I don't understand how King Baby is useful in any way. I can't think of one scenario in which I was thankful I had King Baby

>>168081306
>he doesn't like camo undies
fuck off it's actually one of the interesting new items they added

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>Doing daily
>Go off to do something in real life
>Get back
>Game's doing that slo-mo glitch where everything is about 10x slower than it should be
>Can't quit to fix it, daily
>mfw
>Do last floor + Megastan in full slo-mo, pulling off stupid dodges that Azazel shouldn't be able to do
>Boring as fuck because so slow
I think I'll just quit next time.

>>168142237
i really dislike it

>>168142959
>Game's doing that slo-mo glitch where everything is about 10x slower than it should be
I thought I was the only one, good to know it's not on my end

>>168143167
There's a couple of speed-related bugs I've noticed, one that's only been happening since 1 (maybe 2) updates ago is the game taking longer to skip cutscenes.
As in, around 5 seconds instead of just fading out and skipping immediately.

>last update broke Varying Special Rooms
>forced to play without it while author patches it

I forgot how fucking garbage the vanilla rooms are. Is there any point in even walking into a curse room? 95% of the time it's a red chest that is almost always full of spiders.
Not even worth the full heart damage to walk in and out.

>>168138070
Cannot be selected at all, yes

>>168144131
A chance at a Guppy item is the only reason.
>Tail, Collar, Head, Dead Cat
And you run the risk of picking up Curse of the Tower/Cursed Eye instead if it's a Blind floor.

>>168144131
How is Varying Special Rooms?
>If it makes it in at all, we'd be waiting until the end of April for it to be integrated into base game

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>>168144454
I like it a lot. Adds a lot of variety to rooms like Item rooms, devil/angel rooms, secret rooms, boss rooms, sacrifice rooms, curse rooms etc. without being too overpowered. It makes flight more valuable since there are some rooms that restrict access to pedestals behind pits/walls which I like because it gives me a reason to carry around The Hanged Man in case I encounter one. It also gives the chance to have some rooms be "worse" than their vanilla counterpart (aka item room could have a pedestal item but requires to be bought for 15 cents, or a shop will only have one item available) so it balances out a little.

Only complaint is that it gives the chance for Boss Rush rooms to be full of like 30+ pedestals. Even if it only lets you pick one up I think it's a little overpowered imo.

Still worth a download, it's essential to me. If I had to only have 1 mod it would be this one. Makes the game fun again.

>>168145545
>chance for Boss Rush rooms to be full of like 30+ pedestals
Did you try Voiding all of them?

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>>168145545
Forgot pic.

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>Have a pretty good Lost run, Pact and Proptosis on first floor
>Die in Downpour 2 because I don't know how Lost interacts with devil beggars
The only one I have to blame is myself.

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It's nice that double steam sales give free devil deals now too

>>168135919
>Obsidian rapier on Dorian
>not killing the ogre in one hit
>Heavy Plate and Ring of Wonder on Cadence
>almost full health
>not tanking hits for your old man

Next time try "playing" as Dorian when there's other enemies on the field since Cadence can easily hold her own by the time you get down there.

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>>168146005
I wanted to but one of the items was Plan C or something similarly suicidal top my run.
here's an idea of what the Boss Rush room could look like. There's another variance where the pedestals line up along the edge of the room as well, I believe that has the most available.

>>168145545
>keeper,inner eye, 20/20
does it all stack

>>168148941
they do.
keeper with mutant spider gives 7 shots, 20/20 gives 9, but it absolutely destroys your dps

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>>168146819
finally keeper is done

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i cant pick this up because there is gold on the square what is this weapon haven't seen it?

>>168147201
>not killing the ogre in one hit
I was trying to but the Necrodancer exploded.

>>168149793
It's the electric daggers, it's like the titanium dagger but you always make electric arcs appear (like if every square was the electric wire from zone 5).

>>168149908
ok i figured thats what it did i just wanted to make sure that it was in fact a dagger not something id want on monk anyway thanks anon

>>168150238
Yeah, it's a fun weapon but the lightning will end up spilling gold everywhere.

Apparently the update had something called "cutlass materials" in them too but I don't think I've run into them yet.

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>got Wax Wings
>gained mad dosh
>managed to pick up and deliver 3 components for the Bullet
>still died to Dragun afterwards

>>168150390
It's like blood/obsidian/gold etc Cutlass.
They're really fucking rare though.

>>168150425
What's that item next to the heart guano stone?

>>168150563
Monster Blood. Gives you a heart container and lets out a radius of toxic goop when you get hit.

>>168150563
>>168150390
that's what i assumed it was that makes cutlass my definitive favorite weapon now its really fun.

I know transformations carry through victory laps, but does transformation progress act the same?
Like if I get two Guppy items and do a victory lap, then pick up a third, will I transform into Guppy?

what do you guy think of the shovel in the amplified update? i feel like to many of them are just +1 dig and +1 damage. I do really like the dash dig shovel tho.

>>168151650
Shovel of Courage is surprisingly shit, since you can't dig buffer.
Shovel of Battle is really good, especially for opening crates/urns.
I love the Shovel of Strength though.

>Cursed challenge
>get Curse of the Lost twice in a row
>and then the item room is that one with the spikes and rocks around the pedestal
>while I have no bombs
please
please

>>168151147
If some of the items got removed you have to retake them.

>>168151852
ya i more ment shovel of courage was fun then how good it was. I dont remember the names of the new shovlels so im not sure what those do

>>168151852
Same, I don't like being unable to dig buffer and the two shovels with damage boosts are fun to use.

But at the end of the day, the Pickaxe is still my digging implement of choice.

Has anyone here gotten the "Deal 50,000 dmg in one hit" achievement in Flamebreak, I'm trying to think of a build that would do that but I dunno if its possible.

Anyone mind sharing the Mei mod for the binding of isaac?

>>168157717
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=842051906

>>168150563
>obsidian cutlass

This game knows what I want. I just turned down an Obsidian Warhammer for it and I wasn't disappointed.

If I want to fuck with mods and don't care about progress, is AB+ worth the $10?

>>168159365
No.

>>168159432
Noted, thanks.

I've been watching a lot of Binding of Isaac videos lately and I feel like getting it. Should I get the original, just Rebirth or Rebirth with both Afterbirth and Afterbirth+?

>>168159754
get rebirth alone
afterbirth and afterbirth+ are only for 100%, they are much shittier otherwise

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>>168159970
Thanks. Shall do.

>>168159754
this is a question that is asked a lot should it be put in the op somewhere maybe?

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>le funny update delaying man

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>Gengar baby never made it in game

Like I said, I'm taking the day off.

GET HUGE

I HAVE LIKE OVER 8 CURSE HELP ME

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>>168166064
FORGOT THE PICTURE

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>>168166246
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK

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>>168167464
THANK YOU BASED ALIEN ENGINE

>>168167675

You did it!

I have finally have a great Keeper Run going!

>can fly
>have Swallowed Penny and Piggy Bank
>picked up Bumbo
>have Humbling Bundle and Glass Cannon
>and Stopwatch

Fucking Delirium stands no chance! (Probably???)

>>168172950

FINALLY!!!

>had to 800% cheese the game to do it, but I did!

>>168159754
Just Rebirth. For sure.

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>going for azazel mega satan clear
>take a devil deal second floor without thinking
>I can just get the keys from a sac room then, have max soul hearts
>never get a single sac room the whole run
>no dad's key
I had the greatest run, too. Tiny planet + Lump of Coal and Blank Card Algiz

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Why do these fucking things have so much fucking health holy goddamn

>>168176624
The pop-up worms in the Womb are the same. Ridiculously tanky.

>>168176624
The same reason Mother Spiders have so much fucking health.
Neither Edmund nor Nicalis can balance for shit.
>We have 3 major types of Flies on Basement
>One is neutral, one has average 2 hits of HP, and one has 2-3 hits and shoots at you
>For this Cellar in expansion, let's do Spiders, they're like Flies, but they can't, well, fly
>So let's give them erratic movement patterns
>Oh and no neutral variant
>And replace the Pooter with one that doesn't shoot and breaks into 2 basic angry spiders on death
>Oh and let's give it average 5 hits of HP for fun
Taking 9 hits total to kill with basic Isaac tears and really wild movement patterns is the tradeoff for losing flying and the ability to shoot at you.
So Blisters are a natural advancement of balance.

Does anyone have that phone wallpaper of #thronebois?

Did Rebirth just update or was that my Workshop stuff?

>>168179967
Workshop.

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>beat Witness on hard mode
>his body blocks the exit

gg

>>168090546
what game is that?

>>168180645
Just exit to menu, then continue run.

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>>168180645

I quit out and hit continue and it fixed itself.

>>168181034

Risk of Rain

>>168181512
>Risk of Rain
thank you sir

I still can't do the damn daily in NoI

>>168182367
>BoI

>>168134367
please help me

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Really love how these are alts to the hosts so they can come out of skulls for no reason and make stepping on them to break skulls a danger because they deal contact damage. Good choice.
They did it to not have to remake rooms

>Died to Robot's past

just blow my fucking brains out

I hate this character

>>168184217
Admittedly, I can't blame them, that Editor is an abomination.
It doesn't excuse how bad the Editor is though. They should have rebuilt that thing from the ground up a week after finishing it.

>>168186273
It seems like they could have just edited how the crushed skulls spawn things

>>168186264
He is the best character ffs.

>Sat there for 10 minutes with the Glowing Hourglass
>went from 180 coins to 1000 on Greed Machine
>Holy Mantle is cool
>Keeper looks like he sucks ass
was this a mistake

>>168189764
Pretty much.

>>168189764
>Glowing Hourglass will never be good again
I hate the "nerf a good item you'll get once in 100+ runs to be complete shit" meme.

And yes, Keeper is the game's worst character by a long shot. Even the Lost is better.

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Nice.

Nice room.

Nice fucking room, dude.

>>168193015
I don't get it. Are the spike blocks moving in opposite directions or something, or are you just frustrated because the hopper keeps jumping into the center before you can shoot him like a little faggot?

>>168193554
Both of the spike blocks move in opposite directions towards you. If you don't have a bomb, you get crushed. And then the hoppers jump over the spike blocks so you can't even shoot them.

>>168193605
Ah.
So basically yet another case of
>"don't have flying/hanged man? lolfuckyou"

>>168190037
Can you still use the Hourglass infinite times with the double active card or the Battery?

Making mods disable achievements in BoI was such a stupid idea

Is there no workaround? For a while you could manually extract and overwrite, but now doing that seems to crash the game.

>>168195878
There's a workaround.

>can't beat FTL with mantis ship
>just want more ships
is mantis ship the most unfun ship

>>168196775
It's easily one of the most fun.
You will never know the misery of manually unlocking the Crystal Cruiser.

>>168196583
Ah, all right. Looks like the latest patch broke some of the mods I was using (Varying Special Rooms, e.g.) so I just have to hope they update. Thanks for setting me straight, anon.

>>168184217
I love how they have a gorillion HP.

>Curse of the Blind in Greed Mode
Just why

Can anyone give me some Gungeon tips i seem to get rekt 4th floor every time, 50 deaths no dragon, should I avoid clearing every floor? Do i need to grind to unlock items first Ive only unlocked the elevator to level II so far

>>168196775
I really liked the Mantis gameplay except that the final boss completely invalidates the strategy forcing you to change tactics completely and you get some seriously trash RNG on the battle droids sometimes.

>>168204109
Every floor has 2 chests, 1 with an active/passive item, 1 with a gun
Don't use keys on brown chests ever
Consider using keys on blue chests if they have a weapon inside only if you're struggling
If you don't pick up a gun during a floor the boss is guaranteed to drop one
If you don't pick up a key during a floor before finding the shop he's guaranteed to have one
Don't roll away from bullets but to the side or into them since the second half of a roll is basically a self stun

So I recently beat gungeon as much as my sanity allowed me, all pasta and the final floor, only thing I omitted was challenge mode because I wasted all of my credits and can't be fucked to go kill bosses so I can try to beat something so unfair. Instead I bought nuclear throne since I heard it was a lot like EtG and it seemed nice. I keep getting fucking destroyed in levels 5-7 and have only made it once to the throne, I then learnt about the loop mechanic and I still can't even make it. Any advice? I've been using plant almost exclusively, chicken and crystal are the only others I've played, the rest I'm too bad with.

>>168212005
>all pasta
All pasts* sorry

>Just unlocked RERUN

holy fuck what a bullshit achievement
picking up 9 lives on my penultimate lap saved my ass because even as ridiculously overpowered as I was i still ended up getting hit 3 fucking times on my last lap

LEAVE IT TO EDMUND TO FIND A WAY TO MISS THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT OF A "VICTORY LAP"

>>168212891
>here enjoy braking the game with the items you had last run!
>except for some random items we'll take away from you
>and then we take more items away
>fuck, you're still here? Fine, then try playing as the Lost now
>while we take more random items away

>>168214329
RIGHT
EXACTLY

IT'S NOT A VICTORY LAP AT THAT POINT, EDMUND, IT'S A FUCKING ENDURANCE MARATHON
ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU HAVE TO WIN TO UNLOCK SHIT

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>>168176984
I'd call them balanced if they had programming that made them stop moving when they came in contact with an object, so they'd be unable to 'curve' around the corners of rocks when chasing you, or force themselves through diagonal gaps (which was pretty obviously not intentional, don't try to spin it that way).

I don't know why people need to pick at all the minor fuckups like how spiders are objectively worse than flies or how victory lap is a stupid mechanic when there are so many far more obvious flaws with literally no excuse.

I mean I'm sure I could find someone to argue that spiders aren't so bad but who the fuck would ever argue in favor of Conquest's "crack the sky" move?
THERE'S LITERALLY NO JUSTIFYING THAT

>tfw so fucking rusty I can't even beat zone 4 in Necrodancer any more

This was my GOTY 2015. What happened to me?

>>168215523
Because after the game being out for so long with pretty constant updates, there's little reason to have any of these fucking problems.
Even if we only focused on literally broken things, there'd easily be enough to support the general. Might as well change it up every now and again.

>>168215779
Memorizing patterns is half the challenge of Necrodancer

Try it again a few times with Aria and you'll suddenly git really gud at almost every other character again

>all this complaining about shit being broken
Is there no one who can do Lua coding, and fix these? Just have a modpack that is entirely fixing the game and removing bullshit that Nicalis and Edmund did, and make the game worth playing?

>>168218765
I wonder if this thread could collaborate on a truly core list of the biggest, most objectively bad problems of BoI.
Not the little squabbles or balance concerns but the straight up broken indefensible shit, like unavoidable attacks and items that don't work.

>>168218983
>unavoidable attacks
typical neo /v/ scum

>>168218983
Would make the thread and everyone on it constructive, instead of just whining all the time or shitposting.
I guess I could go through all the items in the game, and make a list of those to remove or replace. Good place to start? Any other ideas? I feel like we can go places with this.

>>168219356
To be fair, offscreen attacks can be bullshit sometimes. There's also really bad rooms too, and some enemies are too tanky when they shouldn't be.

>>168218765
You cant change most of the games behavior like anti with the actual modding tools.
Pls remove tanooki

>>168219356
>>unavoidable attacks
>typical neo /v/ scum
Crack the sky is literally unavoidable.
Some rooms start with configurations that hurt you just for walking in, due to things like mullibooms spawning right next to you.

>>168219480
>m-m-muh ez pz game is no longer ez pz??

>>168219903
>>168219356
>literally arguing sometimes you should just die for no reason
If Edmund added a mechanic where Isaac would randomly have a stroke and instantly die at any point in the game with no way to defend from it there would still be someone saying it was good

>>168219898
Crack The Sky is really avoidable, because the beams are random. So is Isaac's light beam pattern in the corners.

>>168219898
Forgot in my post, but I do agree with you on mulliboom rooms and the other bullshit ones. So you're half right.

>>168220169
>Crack The Sky is really avoidable because it's random
That's what makes it unavoidable. There's no way to predict the beams and they can literally spawn on your head.
>>168219356
See: >>168193015

>>168220107
except that it doesn't kill you, it takes away like half a heart
if you don't have a half heart to spare at all times you shouldn't play roguelites, you neo /v/ scum

>>168182367
Disable your mods fuckboi

>>168218983
It would be a very small list. Most of the people that cry so much are neo /v/ shitters.

>>168219903
Honestly, the game is still extremely easy.

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WHY DOES THE CHARGE MACHINE HAVE A CHANCE TO KILL YOU

EVEN STEAKMUND WOULDN'T DO THIS

>>168226757
is this a jojo reference?
i f*cking love jojo referenes!!!!