/agdg/ Amateur Game Dev General

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>>168044627
first for progress.

>>168044731
How the fuck are you meant to not get hit

>>168044837
by getting good

>>168044837
don't touch the bullets.

>>168044837
by gathering experience from other bullet hells

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Any Unreal fucks here?

I have a bit of a weird issue with widgets. Pic related.

The red thing is a text box widget with a text that I update once per tick. Instead of updating in the box, it seems to recreate the box and then update.
The creation of the box is done in the editor, so I don't have an endless loop of recreating that widget.

The same problem happens with another widget. It contains an image and gets added procedurally, then its position is updated once per tick. Instead of just repositioning itself, it leaves a trail of clones behind.

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>>168044627
>You can do it! Edition
No I can't, where the fuck do I pull 5k from?
With that money I can literally live like a king for a whole year.

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reply to this post to die

>tfw you casualize your own strategy game because it is 2hard5humans

>>168045079
finally i can feel the warm embrace of death

>>168044885
>>168044914
>>168045014
My reaction time is too slow for that.

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r8 my crate

Writer looking for a programmer and artist here. I wont be paying you.

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>realize my game might be too big
>decide to put it in the shelf for now and make a smaller, free game so I can get enough experience and maybe a following before making my other game
>start working on smaller game
>blow it out of proportion

god damn it

>>168045331
Hello I am an artist looking for a project to work on. What program do you use to write?

>>168045331
What are you offering in lieu of payment, then?

>>168045249
Guess what, you're gonna get hit then

>>168045331
Are you willing to write socialist propaganda games?

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Redid the HUD to match the new aspect ratio a little better and not look so sad (this is still super rough and will be better when I can spend time on graphics I promise)

Showing the scrolling background but forgot to recenter it since I decided to move the active play window to the right.

Reaction portraits still working out, the blue flames are lives, etc. The half moon gauge on the far right is for a future mechanic I have yet to implement so I won't go into it for now.

During the fight I skipped the phases just to show the 'boss portrait' popup and fade when a phase ends effect.

Again I apologize for the video quality. The game runs at 60fps but I recorded it at 30 using fraps and then converted it using WebMConverter. I will get the hang of it eventually.

Going to keep pushing and see how far I can go. Hopefully the prototype pans out enough that I can turn it into the full project!

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I can't stop laughing

it's only february and this is already the best bug from 2017

>>168045024
How are you updating it?

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>>168045690

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>>168045806
Nice

>>168045432
Worldbuilding

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>>168045963
For the moving box, pic related.

For the text box, I bound it to a variable which I update on tick. (Currently doing it in the constructor with a delay loop, though, just to see if it behaves differently)

>>168046132
Oh, you can program the level creation systems? Might be useful.

How do does /agdg/ feel about tripfagging, is it socially acceptable here or will I make enemies based purely on memetism?

>>168046240
It's faggotry.

>>168046240
If you need a T R I P you belong on REDDIT

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>>168045071
It can't be happening

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>>168045331
Would you write my story for me Writer-san?

>>168045071
Put your game on itch. If its steam worthy it will gain at least 5k in revenue you can put towards the steam fee.

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>>168046151
Fuck it.

I'm retarded.

Pic related.

>>168045331
Hey, I'm an artist and am interested in working with you.

What word processing application do you use to write?

idea guy looking for programmer, artist, writer, and musician for heroic Gamedev. Must have achievement, no shammies.

>>168046497
I doubt even the best-selling itch-only game made 5k or more.

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>>168046367
I know right?
It's been 15 hours already and we still didn't wake up from this nightmare.

>WHEN I WAKE UP THE REAL NIGHTMARE BEINGS

>>168046497
Are you retarded or just pretending?

The point of steam is the discoverability for your game.

It won't be 5k you complete fucking idiots stop spreading this meme.

>>168046765
Even if it's 500$ it's way too much for some devs

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>>168045024
If you still haven't done it, just made a simple example. Expose Text block as a variable in the widget and add this to character's blueprint. Adding this to level blueprint won't work btw.

>>168046840
It will most likely be 200 or less, Valve loves poorfags.

>tfw people say the bigger fee will mean Steam actually has someone working on QA which will mean if your game gets accepted it will be more succesful than now
>tfw some people actually believe this after witnessing what a shitshow Greenlight was
>tfw trusting Valve with anything

>>168046853
See >>168046543
I fucking redrew all of my widgets each frame.

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>free audio
>no commercial use
t-thanks

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Literally snails v2, unintended as always
>This strange organism creates colonies to help protect each other
>In group it creates a lot of tension that is released when one of the group is killed by a predator. This stored force helps in escaping.

>>168047016
cc3.0

Is the comfy jam cancelled or something? The link isn't taking me to the page anymore?

>>168046904
They already said that QA will be absolutely minimal, they will just check if the game runs and if it's an actual game, they will leave the QA to curators and reviewers.

>>168047128
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-comfy-jam

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>>168047016
thanks for making me laugh so hard anon

>>168047170
So what's the point of the fee?

To make small indies less likely to put their games on steam while shitty unity flips from china get through no problem, because they make more than the fee will be anyway?

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>>168047016
>tfw collection of free audio sites with commercial use but I don't want to share them

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>>168047128
It's on itch.io, basically gone and never found

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https://www.gog.com/indie

wtf I love gog now

>>168047595
>This is my first game. Do I have a chance to get it onto GOG?
>Definitely, and we encourage you to try, but please remember that our main focus is the quality, so if you want to submit your first game to us - be sure that it is comparable to, or even better, above indie market standards.

So basically they will only accept the pseudoindies funded by big corps.

>>168047595
F I V E P E R C E N T

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Sweet. Now if only I had a game to go with it.

>endica in the op
for what purpose

>>168047904
Is that an anime shader?

>>168047818
I think that's just there to dissuade asset flippers and alike.
I doubt they're expecting to get single-man teams who submit games like Rogue Legacy or Enter the Gungeon.

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>>168047854
https://www.humblebundle.com/developer

wtf I love humble bundle now

>>168044786
But it is. "World building" is making shit up. I can puke from pretentious RPGs and VNs or any other kinds of games where they are so high up their asses because they build a le unique world(tm)(r), yet their dialog is unrealistic, their characters are two dimensional at best etc. Having a world is just a starting point, but without good writing, it's nothing.

With that said, I can respect a good writer at any time, however I have to agree with the other anon: for a two men team, it looks unreasonable.

>>168045806
did she dead

>>168048326
Humble is literally 1%.

>>168047904
That's a post processing material that uses custom stencil to produce ramp shader on specific objects. It does not need a custom light supplied as a parameter, supports self-shadowing and all other Unreal's fancy lighting stuff if needed.

>>168047280
they're doing the fee because greenlight voting process is """"""""""""""stressful""""""""""""""" do not ask any more questions ever again

>he thinks he has the luxury to choose which storefront he wants to sell his nonexistent game on based on revenue share and other meaningless details

In reality you will need ALL OF THEM.

this thread sucks

>>168045421
I have another similar problem.
>start project, obviously too big
>downsize the scope and change some things
>end up making small-ass projects one by one where I program the same thing over and over
>the exception is that even if the next one is better and more complete than the one before, I still feel like I want to scrap it because I can't get myself to change and upgrade things the following day

>>168048678
Being on Humble is actually proven to make you lose sales.

>>168044106
I dug trough my folder of dead projects and found one with the shaders you need, but it only works with forward rendering, can you still use it? cba to make a package and write a readme if not.

>>168048783
explain

>>168044627
STOP FUCKING UP THE LINKS

>>168048876
I made that up.

>>168044627
>There's no link to the previous thread.

Let me help you, OP.
>>167994848

>>168049087
Why?

>>168049145
Because I could.

Just a reminder your game is deader than a black guy in a racist redneck town

>>168047818
>our main focus is the quality
good, if you want trash, there's always steam.

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>>168048307
Yep, made everything except for the cloud rendering stuff.

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Do you ever wonder if you see your game different from other people?
A-am I making shovelware tier garbage?

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How are your Comfy Jam games coming along? Only a couple of days left!

>>168046240
tripping is something you should only do out of necessity, i.e. to verify your off-site identity if that's relevant to the discussion

Calm down, guys.
Just make a game, then publish a demo and ask for funds.
Simple as that.

>>168050115
I'm not going to have it done in time for the game jam because I started real late but I'm excited to show it off when it's presentable anyway.

>>168050115
Let's take a bet.

The comfy jam will only have..... 6 games, max.

>>168049975
this is why shilling your game to people who don't know it and observing their reactions is vital

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>>168050115
>started way early
>still will probably make it really close to the deadline
Welp

>He doesn't think his game is WORTH 5000 dollars

Lol you already failed.

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>>168050115
I'm waiting for the deadline, then I'm gonna get real comfy and play all of them.

Actions generate mana. Each of the four actions available to you generate mana of a different type. A victorious playthrough takes 30 or so minutes but you can lose much faster than that.

OPTION A:
At the end of each stage you get to choose one of several random abilities that use mana of a certain type. The choices are randomized between playthroughs.

Pros: Variety. Each playthrough is different.
Cons: For the first few stages certain kinds of mana are useless. You're midway through the game by the time you unlock the final ability.

Option B:
You make a 4 ability build before the game.

Pros: All 4 colors of mana are useful from the beginning. Planning builds is fun.
Cons: No procedural replayability. Nothing stops you from playing the same boring build every time. No surprises when it comes to level ups.

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>want to make one large project
>should work on one small project
>work on many small projects instead
please stop me

>>168045256
Pretty shitty. Out of ten.

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>>168048806
>>168050364
here's an example

How do I block out environments in Unity better than reshaping blocks? There's no grid and after a while it becomes really messy, not to mention impossible to make ramps or pyramids.

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Playtesters are the main reason why games suck nowadays, normies are braindead and will be utterly confused at anything more complex than press F to win game.

Don't listen to their suggestions to dumb down your game, you need to read between the lines and understand why that person couldn't do something, improve the user experience instead of diminishing your gameplay.

>>168049373
D-D-D-DAYUMNNNNNNN

>>168050364
Your ship is taking on water?

>>168050681
>>168048806
Thanks a bunch.
I'm not really sure what forward rendering is (I've seen it discussed a couple of time but never really checked what it was), but sure, send me a link or something and I'll see if I can use it somehow.

>>168033262
Aww shit, thanks nigga, you're the man
the power ups now sit flush with the player, now I just need to figure out why the player shoots himself while using the speed boost

>>168050671
t. nodev

>>168050710
>don't bother making your game accessible to a larger audience, just pander to my autistic niche

>>168051273
As someone that occupies autistic niches, I really wish more devs would pander to me

Good games are too hard to find these days, the larger audience just wants CoD and FIFA anyway

>>168051273
>amateur game development general

>>168051273
Accessible =/= easy

There are plenty of very popular but hard games, they succeed because they have good user experience, making it easier is just the lazy way out.

>>168050710
>Don't listen to their suggestions to dumb down your game, you need to read between the lines and understand why that person couldn't do something, improve the user experience instead of diminishing your gameplay.
Also, make sure to actually HAVE playtesters.
Otherwise you will end up like Skyrim. I'm pretty sure no tester ever touched that game.

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>game is shit without music

>>168050710
Actually playtesters are perfectly intelligent. The problem is the devs don't listen to them.

>>168051554
t. play tester who can't program

>>168051554
this is bullshit, they hire kids as playtesters and they don't know shit.

>>168051898
They can't know less than /v/.

>>168050115
I'm still having trouble getting the screaming skeletons to work.

>>168050115
Not good, was really hoping have a demo ready, but work and other responsibilities have left me with little time to fix some of the horribly buggy/broken gameplay.

Also you should always ask for recordings of the people playtesting the game, one or two paragraphs of an idiot's experience is worthless compared to a video.

>>168051396
What are your niches?

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>>168045256
>>168051208
I edited it.

>>168048876
If people get your game from a humble bundle, you will get a fraction of a dollar per sale (if that)
Hardly enough to justify calling it a "sale", especially if they buy the bundle for games that aren't yours

>>168047854
where does it say this?

>I can't do it, why did I think I could ever make it? I was so stupid. Even if I do make something it's not like it will be at all successful.
>I can do it! All I have to do is set my mind to it and try! This is great!
>I can't do it, why did I think I could ever make it? I was so stupid. Even if I do make something it's not like it will be at all successful.
>I can do it! All I have to do is set my mind to it and try! This is great!
>...
How do I stop this roller coaster?

>>168052481
don't forget a lot of the $1-$2 keys on g2a are from humble, sharks are gonna buy it cheap in bulk and take a large markup on g2a for themselves

being on humble is literally giving money away to these people

>>168052481
A bundle isn't enough to dry out your potential full-priced customer base and the Humble Store isn't Humble Bundle anyway.

>>168052518
Know you of the Asiatic Clam Fisherman?

>>168052518
just like make game

>>168052518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEIqVq7EZqE

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>>168047595
>they personally review every submission and hand pick the best ones

A+ for effort, but if you think a $5000 fee was bad try getting past a motivated human being looking for flaws

>>168047818
>funding = quality

>>168048778
>>168050430
Are we perhaps brothers?

>>168052518
ritalin

http://www.strawpoll.me/12318118
http://www.strawpoll.me/12318118

>REEEE why does Steam have no standards
>REEEE why does GoG have standards

>>168053121
What is the average indie game?

>>168050264
Six is a good number
I mean, not as good as seven, but still pretty good

What are the rules of the jam anyways? Like what kind of completion level is acceptable? What's the purpose of the jam?

>>168052518
You don't you just learn to keep going even though you know you will get nowhere

>>168047016
>feel free to use this music
>but please give credit

lol no

>>168053525
>What's the purpose of the jam?
To give people a reason to keep making things with an actual deadline and basic structure

>>168053525
>rules
lol

>>168053525
Good excuse to learn blender

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http://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/circle/invite

WTF I FUCKING HATE DLSITE NOW
WHAT A BUNCH OF KIKES

>>168053867
>75%

WEW

is scuplting a meme? i can't deal with gons anymore

>>168053995
At 100 yen which is 90 fucking US cents.

>>168054035
they seem to be taking at least 38%, which is pretty steep still.

>>168053867
>Japan in charge of anything online

>>168054103
They let literally anyone in and they also handle packaging and shipping costs for physical items.

Why do all jap sites look like they were made in the early 00's?

Why aren't you having different languages anon?

anyone know how to check for special characters in game maker? like []\;',./

stuff like ord("[") isn't working. i'm unsure how to do this

>>168054347
Because they know that it's better than the majority of shitty "modern" websites.

>>168054347
Because they don't know what CSS is.

>>168045249
doesn't matter, you will see the bullets and the patterns for long enough that reaction time doesn't matter. It's about looking ahead.

>>168054425
IIRC you need to use the virtual key code constants.

>>168054494
You mean vk_ constants? I don't think any exist for brackets, period, comma, quotation, and slashes, sadly.

>>168054434
But they are fucking terrible, I use pixiv for fapping and it's just painful to use, especially on mobile.

>>168050893
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8hbtV4x61yFZm5TSHNzc3pTT3M/view

If you haven't messed with any of the render settings I believe untiy uses forward rendering by default.

>>168054434
>re japanese is incredibry curtured advanced people than westernenr pigsu

>>168054579
Maybe you have to use the shifted versions of the characters, like how the letters need to be upper case.

>>168045806
Is this the 3D version of 2D pixelshit girl platformer

>>168054660
Hm, not getting anything from that either. Maybe there's a keycode that I can put in manually?

>>168054584
pixiv is shitty because it opens galleries with several pics in a new window/tab, it doesn't really look "old style"

>>168054584
Pixiv is great, what are you on about?

>On Mobile
Hahahahaha

Why do japs still use flip phones?

>>168054805
Try setting up a test where you print the key codes and their chr() outputs as the keys are pressed.

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>>168054732
sorry I don't know which one you're talking about? none of the games I'm drawing ~inspiration~ from are 2D

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>>168054596
Thanks. Actually, while waiting I looked around about depth shaders and shit and managed to make it work with a shader from the unity wiki.

>>168055045
>>168054596

can someone give the tl;dr of how this works?

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>>168054579
>brackets
>quotation
>slashes
if you're fine with your game being unplayable internationally

>>168055189
http://wiki.unity3d.com/index.php?title=DepthMask
This is where I got the shader. Basically you create an object that works as a mask for what's drawn behind it (the sea in this case).

>>168055189
When rendering 3D scenes, a depth buffer is used to determine what should be drawn or not based on whether it is behind something. The trick is to modify the depth buffer without drawing anything visible. In this case, first you draw the boat, then everything that should be inside the boat, then invisible geometry at the top of the hull that writes to the depth buffer. Then you draw the water, and because it sees there's something in the depth buffer, it doesn't appear in the boat.

>>168054425
there should be a keycode list somewhere out there and if there isn't one you should be able to get the ids of the keys you want through keyboard_key or something

>>168055505
ah okay so you just shift the z value of the boat forward?

>>168047904
can i have a copy of this shader one with the highlights and one without

Do you think you could make it work in unity?

>>168055038
I mean the one with the skele memes and particle spam

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As shown here >>168045701 the blue flames are the lives you have left. Already starting to refine them to something more focused (left to right).

The graphical stage of this is going to be pretty overwhelming I can tell. Especially if it has to stand out in any real capacity but I am up for it. Also already re-redesigning moth girl character (her name is Lore). Same basic concept but a lot more focused and detailed.

Hopefully I can post some mechanical progress later and not just artblog.

>>168055605
No, because then it would appear on top of the water.

>>168054347
While something like 9 out of 10 western websites look contemporary by now, 3/4 of japanese websites are actually modern while the remaining fourth look like old shit. There's 3 reasons:
1. There was a huge boom of early non-touch smartphones in Japan around 2007-9 where everybody would use flip phones to navigate websites and send e-mails; you had to scroll with the main direction buttons so the design for websites were made especially blocky, shiny and Web 2.0 for that reason.
2. Flip phones are still popular in Japan and they're coming back with Android. why? Because they are needed as secondary phones for emergency and businessmen still need to use them.
3. The usual unconventional separation from the West in design matters.
History lesson over.

>>168055045
are you using Unity?

I am totally new to gamedev in general, but based form your pic I assume your using the unlit texture shading method?

How do you do lighting?

>>168053867
yea dlsite is maximum jew

however, depending on where you live and the exchange rate it can still work out for you. you'd have to charge a bit more for your game to make a decent amount and make up for the massive cut they take

>>168055657
the last 2d game I played was

__risk of rain__

I'm not very up to date, sorry

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>>168055793
>unlit
>"how do you do lighting"

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>>168055793
I don't, the 'shading' is actually drawn on the textures

>>168054007
even fi you sculpt something you will still need to retopo it

unless you do simplified stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPzxwNlA6mQ

>>168050115
My tablet broke, making me lose a day. And now I think I'm getting sick.
I might not make it, and I hate that.

>>168054739
https://theakrillictimes.tumblr.com/

Is this what you are looking for?

>>168053867
It's what you get for being a baka gaijin. Japanese people pay less

>>168053374
>6 out of 41
No anon, this is not a good score.
That would be a 3 / 20 exam equivalent, this is very bad. Teachers would not be proud of you.

>>168056469
>exam on 20

Do you people not have percentages?

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so now I'm able to generate a collision mesh for the track, but for some reason that broke the support meshes... and here I thought I'd made things loosely coupled.

>>168056627
That's still only 15% of success.

>>168055895
that's, uh, an interesting way to go about things.

>>168056831
Pretty standard

>>168056469
Compare it to the thread, we sometimes have 3 progress posts out of 750. 6 out of 41 is pretty good indeed.

>>168056858
standard for what? Indie shit?

>>168055895
that sounds needless complicated man

Anyone know where I can find good game programming tutorials with using opengl and win32 api ?

>>168057286
Google

>>168056979
people have been doing that kind of thing for years now

>>168057198
It's not.

>>168057473
years? try decades. they've been doing it since the last millenia

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>>168057678
>the last millenia
>the millenia

>>168057763
second and third millenium

>>168057286
Do yourself a favour and use GLFW unless you have a good reason not to. WGL is hell.

>>168057869
>they've been doing it since the second and third millenium

try again

>>168057941
pretty sure it's true

>>168058000
I meant try again at making a proper english sentence

>>168057941
It's true though.

>>168058000
Trips confirm.

>>168057286
nehe

>>168058520
No.

>>168058574
why not?

>>168058881
It's based on pre 3.0 OpenGL.

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>tfw you start working on your very first big project

>>168058881
They predate GLSL for the love of god.

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>>168053263
>What is the average indie game?
`retro` pIxel art platformers with modern shaders and lighting that have game mechanics common to 90% of plaftormers (jump, attack, climb) and absolutely nothing innovative.

It takes balls to do something different.

>>168057931
how good is the performance compared to wgl? the only reason I bothered to ask in the first is because I was using SDL earlier on my pentium 4 . SDL pushes my cpu to 50% compared to 7% with win32. Both programs were just "baby's first opengl program with a rotating triangle".

>>168059491
>`retro` pIxel art with modern shaders and lighting
Nothing wrong with this.

>>168059491
will anyone take this bait

>>168059491
>balls
more like effort

>>168059561
I have no idea, I never even considered it a potential problem.

I suspect that this is user error, though.

>>168059491
>It takes balls to do something different.
not really, it just takes new ideas but 99% of people can't come up with a fun new game mechanic if their life depended on it.

>>168059623
>>168059645
you two already did
i'm third

>>168059763
>user error
normally I'd agree with this but I didn't even type either program. they were both premade examples that came with dev cpp 4.9.9.2

>>168059561
>>168059763
Like, it's not even necessarily a performance issue. I have a strong suspicion that it comes down to something like your WGL application sleeping the thread to limit the frame rate and your SDL application spinning (while time < wait {}). The latter would increase your CPU usage to 50% (i.e. one core at 100%) because you're spending all your time either doing real work or spinning, whereas the former yields the thread to the OS and thus doesn't increase your CPU usage.

>>168060119
Still programmer error, though.

>>168059491
How is using balls innovative? That's as old as Pong.

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No new screenshots but I've been working on an inventory system and buy/sell mechanics for trafficking things across countries today (all code progress). If you ever played dope wars, that's exactly what I'm adding to my bounty hunter game now.

Now some feedback for the anons that make these threads worth visiting.

>>168059152
Looks good, keep it up.

>>168056651
Your game is pretty interesting. What is the gameplay going to be like?

>>168055045
Looks great now.

>>168055038
Are you the dino cooking game dev? What happened to the dino cooking game?

>>168052467
I think your black outlines shouldn't be full black. how about a super dark brown? Your previous version had a very light outline and this one is full black, try to find some middle ground.

>>168049373
P.good

>>168047086
That's a pretty good concept anon, I like it.

>>168045701
Good progress, things still look really placeholderish so I'm not going to critique any of that.

>>168045079
Good to see you again, what's up.

>>168044731
Sweet

>>168059769
They don't need to. Be good at art and have:

>tiled grid-based map with foreground and background
>3 layers of parallax
>quick jumpy movement
>dust particles everywhere you lay you legs upon
>npcs with quirky "How did YOU eat it so fast?" with colored sinusoid words appearing on proximity
>asthma idle animations for everyone

And you get >100 reblogs/tweets/likes/pats/wanks/(you)s

>>168060352
this is a good post

>>168059623
>>168059645
>>168059780
he's not wrong

if you think that carbon copy le retro pixel platformer shit is any better than the 100s of shitty RPG Games out there, you're dead wrong

>>168044731
demo when

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I got it working literally on the first try once I had a bit of sleep. I don't know what I did differently this time- I'm going to assume that in my tired state I was just typing gibberish.

Anyway, now I can actually do productive things instead of fixing past mistakes. Time to:
>Set directional sprite animations
>Fix the dang camera zoom once and for all
>Get something to eat

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>>168059645
Not bait, honest opinion.

>`retro` pIxel art with modern shaders and lighting
>Nothing wrong with this.
It is wrong if you try to sell it as retro. I don't get why they can't just say it's a minimalist pixel artart style instead, there's nothing wrong with that.
Pic related, just google retro pixel art games and you'll see plenty of examples.

>>168060257
kek

>>168060868
Second answer was meant for >>168059623

>>168060212
okay well I don't know what to do. I just want to make a game with opengl 1.2 . I don't have the knowledge or experience to deal with win32 yet but its performance is already roughly 8x better than SDL. I need all the performance I can get without frying my toaster. I downloaded 4.9.9.2 and used the default win32 opengl example while the SDL is version 1.2.8 from a devpak. I f you can tell me what exactly is wrong I would gladly appreciate it.

>>168046894
I think that is way, way too optimistic. 200 is only 2x the greenlight fee and it skips the voting process entirely. That would make the shovelware situation even worse than before.

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>>168060352
hello friend yes I'm tracydev

she's taking a break......

>>168061349
I am almost certain that it's because of what I explained. Use GLFW, write the code yourself, and you won't have a problem. You shouldn't be limiting your frame rate anyway except through V-sync, but either way even though it's reporting 100% usage of a core it's empty work and you can do different real work and not have a performance issue (until there's too much real work being done).

>>168061664
that's a cute _frog_

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>>168055038
damn someone already suggested something like this to you so I was hoping you'd do it this way: three barrels to make it look like a paw, plus sights on all three of them to make it look like claws (not that I really care to make the sights functional)

>>168061652
But it's per-submission instead of per-user, Valve doesn't even care about the shovelware, they are changing it just because Greenlight is dying and not many users are voting.

Anyone here building a game from scratch in C/C++? By that I mean not using a game engin such as Unity/Unreal etc. If so what are some good resources to get started? Especially things regarding graphics.

>>168050115
I will have to cut some features, but if I don't sleep I will make it.

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>sudden engie influx

why?

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>>168061731
you're a cute frog

>>168061749
memo status: received

I'll add a paw shaped gun just for you

>>168055038
is there a particular reason why the small cute paw became a big unsightly glove in the 3d version?

>>168061664
What's the reason? Did you run out of gameplay ideas like your previous project or are you just prioritizing that new project and putting this one in the back burner?

>>168052481
humble bundle =/= humble store

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I've been working on a game for a while now.
If any of you remember Project Shmoop, this is a sequel to that.
Finally found that artist

>>168061919
I'm halfway an engie.

>>168061860
Game Engine Architecture

>>168061957
what the FUCK I've been telling you to do that paw gun since forever

>>168061919
>tfw engie in one year

>>168061957
that's a breddy gud text effect

based cuck SJW, what do? kek

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>>168062176
yeah, I know it's less cute but it's way easier locate visually. I'll make the final decision later when texturing!

>>168062338
tracy was supposed to be a tiny game for dino jam and the design didn't hold up when I got to the point I needed to flesh it out. I had too many ideas for it and couldn't settle on a particular one

>>168062670
sorry I thought it was literally one guy reminding me constantly

>>168060868
towerclimb is a great game though, not just a indie pixel platformer

>>168062838
I guess I don't mind the glove per se, just the size of the fingers make it look like manhands

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>>168053121
I think some of us here might be just a little bit delusional

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>NEET, PC in the same room as the tv my parents watch so they see what i'm doing all day.

>can only work on my game when they aren't here out of the shame it would cause if they realised i was making a video game.

this has hampered my progress more than anything. i wish they would fuck off so i can make my shitty agdg demo before i kill myself.

>>168063045
>doing something creative instead of mindlessly consuming
>shameful

https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/thy-goddess-grace

Thoughts on this song?

>>168061919
because I have a toaster and most engines won't run on it

>>168061860
http://fabiensanglard.net/ is good if you're a pure c fag. He also has source code and book recommendations

>>168061692
glfw hits my cpu with 65%. I'm going with win32

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Are we still doing the recap on mondays? Progress goes too slow ;_;

>>168062531
Very cool. I was hoping you would start posting again. Did you ever make a tumblr so we could keep up with your progress and other projects?

>>168063045
>NEET, PC in the same room as the tv my parents watch
fuck man
are your parents overbearing or what

>>168063372
>glfw hits my cpu with 65%
Post code.

>>168063372
time to upgrade faggot

>>168063263
Pretty good man. But remember oftentimes in music, less is more.
The track is very crowded right now. Lose some of the channels, or at least lower them.

>>168063450
>>168063473
or I guess maybe he's just using a busywait loop and thinks that means performance is bad

>>168063045
I don't understand why everyone here seems to want to hide their gamedev hobby like it's something shameful. Do you realize how fucking dull the average person is? How fucking rare it is to see people with any sort of creative hobby in this era of netflix and social media? Grow a fucking spine and take pride in what you do.
It's cool.

>>168061860
I'm making a 2D game with C++ and SFML. If you plan to do 2d only, the SFML docs might be enough.

If you want to do a 3D graphics engine (I.e you are insane), I'd recommend reading "Real-time Rendering". It goes deeply into the math and the pipeline used by modern GPUs to render stuff.

>>168061919
because the gods have finally heard our prayers

bored musician looking for practice.
anyone wants some free music? maybe for comfyjam?

>>168063627
That's what I suggested twice already.

>>168063045
>parents watch TV

is your dad a coal miner?

>>168063045
is your game lewd

>>168063381
fuck off last monday was 2 days ago tops

>>168063596
Gotcha. Thanks man!

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>>168063390
I forgot about that, actually. I post stuff on my personal Twitter occasionally though https://twitter.com/Sinoc229. I'll make a tumblr, but I have no idea how that website works beyond teenage girls re-posting gifs.

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Video of my classic Castlevania clone. Trying to figure out what kinds of sub-weapons I should include.

>>168063450

https://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/showthread.php/165187-Help-with-installing-the-GFLW-library-S

>>168064143
>a whip sickle

>>168064165
Ah, you're not limiting the frame rate at all. Of course it's going to use a lot of CPU, but it means you've probably got high hundreds to in the thousands of FPS i.e. tons more frame time to actually do things.

>i've been having more fun looking at these webms and trying to figure out how to do these effects than actually program my own game

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>>168044731
That screen shake is really satisfying

>>168063436
they don't want him visiting naught site lest he fondle his genitals inappropriately. it's just good sound parenting.

>>168063141
to retarded boomers any use of something resembling a video game is a video game. trying to explain why this is a 12 billion dollar market to these people is a waste of effort.

>>168063759
What sort of thing do you do?

>>168055657
...Dominions?

>>168047086
Someone's a metroid fan

>>168064309
pastebin.com/PSvV3evL

so why does this win32 opengl example not eat as much?

>>168064694
I'm really good at retro videogame music, sort of like the music in n64, SNES, sega md, and old console chiptunes. Demoscene modules too.
Also I'm good at writing solo piano songs.
Anything else I'm willing to give a try. I suck at ambient and orchestral.

>>168065039
> Sleep (1);

>>168065078
Any Piano music examples? I could use a melody for my title screen.

>>168063923
>poor quality pixelshit copy of scene from Akira

that's just pathetic. why do people waste their time with this. be creative for once.

okay, lets say I make a 2d isometric game using 3 dimensions. the orthographic camera and all the sprites are rotated 60 degrees so they will look no different than if everything were true 2d. But the floor tiles would now be at an angle. what the hell do I do to my floor tiles to compensate for this angle?

>>168065214
one way ticket to uneven frametimes town

let's say I'm making an RPG with a monster database in xml file, a fairly big xml file with ~150 monsters

which is better for spawning them
A)load the entire xml file into a monster database dictionary that will exist always in the game memory for use in battles
B)load each specific monsters from the xml file directly when it is needed in a battle

>>168065220
I'll just record something and you let me know if you want to use it.
What's the game? What sort of music are you looking for?

>>168065412
150 doesn't seem like a lot, i would just store them all in memory at once

>>168065412
First one parses it once, second parses it every time you access it.

The performance difference is negligible.

>Just ordered two kazoos
What have you invested in your game /agdg/?

>>168054925
Good idea. I'll give that a shot.

>>168065039
>>168065214
It's yielding to the OS which means it uses less CPU but is also given less CPU time in general.

>>168065635
what about when its combined with other databases, right now I also have ~150 skills, ~300 items all in dictionaries

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>>168060791
>demo when
anon...
https://monolithdevs.itch.io/monolith

>>168065647
dozens of hours

>>168065645
>The performance difference is negligible.
so having 3 or 4 dictionaries with a huge number of items in each stored constantly in memory is fine?

I have no idea how to optimize, this is the first game I've ever gotten close to completing

>>168065808
I mean demo with the new features homeboy

>>168065647
I have 3 whiteboards

>>168065913
Is it lagging? Using excessive memory? No? Don't optimize

You're severely underestimating the speed and capacity of computers

>>168065913
assuming it's just text or even binary data it shouldn't take more than a few megs of memory, so why not?

>>168065913
can't you see exactly how much memory they are taking up?

>>168065731
>>168065913
99% of Steam users have 2 GB RAM or more.

For games it's often best to optimize to use as little time as possible without caring about how much space is used.

>>168065078
>sega md
post some tunes, bruh

>>168065687
>>168065214
bravo good sirs. that was it. however;
win32 + sleep = 5%
sdl + sleep = 20%
win32 - sleep = 39%
sdl - sleep = 50%

Imma go with win32

>>168063828
dunno but his mom sure is a coal burner

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>>168065440
It's an RPG, not much to show for it unfortunately but I was fiddling around with a title screen test earlier.

Probably something like the piano in these if you're able to? Ignoring the other instruments in the second link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFavCa3nUCA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk10HftxJm8

Been trying to find/ think of something I could use as a leitmotif for other music in the game.

>>168066029
>>168066054
>>168066059
>>168066118
I see, thanks

I'll just continue on using dictionaries and keep check on how much memory is used

>>168066029
this, don't optimize prematurely. First write shit, then if it's slow, think about how to improve it.

>>168066151
you're clearly not intelligent enough to make an engine

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>>168060352
not really sure how to write the elevator pitch for this game but..
it's 3d snake, but you drive a steam train that's like a wooden roller coaster and you have gun carts that you can sit in and shoot at other trains because there are other trains so it's more like Tron than Snake, there is also multiplayer support where you can team up in one train cart combo like mario kart double dash dash, so yeah, all these elements are subject to change.

>>168066151
CPU usage is a really poor indicator of performance, by the way. You should be measuring frame time and frames per second.

>>168066285
>it's 3d snake, but you drive a steam train that's like a wooden roller coaster
This is your elevator pitch.

>>168066151
>>168066379
Like, sleeping the thread instead of spinning lowers CPU usage but it can also make your game less efficient because the OS schedules more time to other processes and you can have stuttering from inaccurate timekeeping.

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>>168066351

>>168065930
prolly never. we're bound to get done or mostly done by the time next dd rolls around.

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Never giving them money ever again

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>>168064827
>particle spam

No.

>>168066581
turned down for Greenlight?

>>168066240
Yeah, I can probably get something in this style done. Tell me more about the game so I can make something adequate.
>That thing about a leitmotif
shit man, that's too much pressure.

>>168066151
I'm actually just getting gud at fm synthesis. I understand the mechanics, but I still need a lot of practice to show something

>>168065930
oh shiut, right.
pure did upload a vid of the current build today tho:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht0zyWjMoC8&t=7s

>>168064143
that don't look like no castlevania physics

>>168066530
>implying /v/ isn't intentionally contrarian when it comes to mainstream reviews

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>>168066351
My dream game that im have in my mind since 2009

>>168066351
i have no idea what /v/ would like

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>>168066351

>>168066379
if near identical programs are not a good example then what is? the opengl code is exactly the same down to the letter. both programs only wait for the esc key.

>>168066254
very bad advice, if you don't ever think about performance you will kill yourself slowly with a thousand knifecuts and design systems that cannot be optimized

knowing when to think about performance is an important skill, but the answer is not "never"

http://www.joshbarczak.com/blog/?p=580
https://tomforsyth1000.github.io/blog.wiki.html#%5B%5BData%20Oriented%20Luddites%5D%5D
http://plosquare.blogspot.com/2014/04/dont-optimize-too-early-dont-optimize.html
https://zignar.net/2016/04/07/premature-optimization-isnt-the-root-of-all-evil/

>>168066964
big tits and comments on your twitteer that you are FIGHTING THE SJW HORDE to bring you these tits.

>>168066902
>didn't even bother to make up a decent story after 10 years

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>>168066351