/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #473

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Is the movie good?

I saw a few scenes of it and was not really convinced.

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Max is #1

1/2

>Kate was finally back in her dorm once more. Poor girl, she was nearly bullied to suicide, all because she was drugged at that Vortex Party by who knows what… but Kate was back, and that’s all that mattered, right? Kate’s bunny Alice certainly didn’t think so however. Alice was too busy thinking about how her friend Lisa was doing; Max’s attractive plant that she was able to keep alive by watering it just enough each morning! Kate had plans to go hang out with Max tonight to go searching for clues as to exactly who drugged her and how, but this wasn’t of Alice’s concern. Alice had only one thing on her mind, and that was the luscious, soft green leaves that only Lisa could grow.

>“Okay Alice! You be good while mommy is gone, I’ll see you soon!” Kate said in an upbeat tone as she left the door to her dorm creaked open a bit by accident. Alice saw this opportunity, as she clawed gently at the side of the metal bars of her cage, desperately hoping that she could get out to see her one true love.

>After about an hour of searching, Alice finally found a spot in her cage that she could gently slide open with her paws and squeeze through. Yes! Alice gave a little victory hop out onto the table where the cage lay, and down onto the floor. Approaching the door instilled some worry in the poor fluff ball’s mind, as she nudged it with her nose. But alas, the door was only opened a small bit, leaving hardly a space for the rabbit to inch her claws in to open the door. Alice’s nose twitched in disappointment as she frantically hopped about the room, trying to think of another way. Suddenly, the door seemed to breeze open, just enough for Alice to hop through. What? Alice chose not to question this, before she squeezed her body just through the space in the door, and hopped out the other side.

2/2

>The dorm rooms were seemingly quiet, nobody was arguing or yelling, locking each other inside of rooms; it was strangely still. Perhaps everyone had gone to another Vortex Party? Whatever… Alice had to get to Lisa’s room! Briskly hopping over to Max’s room, she nudged the door open with her body and happily hopped in up to Lisa. Her leaves were so bright and beautiful… her pot fit her just perfectly as she stretched towards the ceiling. She was even more beautiful than Alice remembered… its been forever since they’ve hung out! Lisa gave a knowing sway of her leaves as a small breeze battered against Alice’s ears, as she gave a small twitch. Did Alice breeze open the door? Would it really be so far fetched to think that Lisa could open the door if Max could rewind time? Alice certainly didn’t think so. Life certainly is strange…

>Alice gently hopped up into the pot, being careful as to not bump Lisa’s leaves or stem as she nuzzled up to one of Lisa’s sweet smelling leaves. With a small lick, a blush spread to the rabbit’s cheeks as the leaf tickled her nose in return. It was okay that the world was falling apart around them… animals were washing up on the beach, storms and strange weather plagued the area, and their owners seemed more than stressed. But, none of this mattered to Alice right now, she was safe under Lisa’s protecting, comfortable hug of her leaves, and that’s all Alice could really ask for. Alice nestled down in Lisa’s pot, minding the placement of her claws as she laid down next to the plant, giving one last loving lick to Lisa’s stem before drifting off into a heavenly sleep in Lisa’s tender embrace.

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>>168028054
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't or butterfly,bluejay just spiritualdoe
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget

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Kate marsh v cute

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>As Max and Chloe are leaving the ruins of Arcadia Bay behind, there's one more tragic story unfolding
>Alice and Lisa stuck in Max's room, Alice hasn't eaten anything in days, the dorms are destroyed and no one comes looking for them
>"No one's gonna come save us, this is the end, we'll starve to death..."
>Alice...you can survive this and go back to your owner. All you have to do is... all you have to do is eat me."
>"What? No, fuck that. Lisa, you're my number one priority, I'm not eating you!"
>"Alice, think about it... how many times this week did you try to nibble my leafs? I'm a plant, Alice, you're a bunny, maybe it's time I accept my destiny... OUR destiny."
>"Lisa, I can't make this choice!"
>"No Alice, you're the only one who can"

>eat Lisa
https://instaud.io/kVV

>eat your own foot
https://instaud.io/kWb

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>friendly reminder that turning off your game is the confirmed canon ending

>>168028462
>>168028540
>>168028707
There are many stories to be told in Arcadia, but this is one of the more heart-capturing ones.

>>168028648
IT AIN'T ME
IT AIN'T ME

>>168028648
>Season 2
>Max changes the past to save Chloe, Rachel, William and Arcadia Bay
>"Chaos Theory" happens
>Kate develops her own powers at a young age
>She's taken into government custody and brainwashed to be a super soldier

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>Reminder this won a BAFTA.

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>>168028648
Kate is qt

>>168029117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0iydAALKYE

The Witcher 3/Until Dawn deserved more.

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What type of Pokémon do all the main characters use?

>Max
Water
>Chloe
Fire
>Jefferson
Dark
>Kate
Psychic
>Warren
Normal
>Victoria
Ice
>David
Ground
>Nathan
Fighting
>Rachel
Ghost

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>>168031383
>Warryn's pokemon

>>168011294
>The Arcadia Bay population don't even know how to use them.
Michel: They just have to use their imagination.

>>168011793
I'll make friends with someone who has a PS4. Bloodborne sounds interesting, but I've never been a fan of Sony's consoles for whatever reason.

>The main issue is that the game puts atmosphere over actually making the game functional, you'll be tasked with collecting something but given no indication where it is in the world space. This is especially annoying considering how painfully slow you move.
That sounds kind of like the Evil Dead game awhile back. There was little to no direction. My friends relied on my guidance to finish the game. I lost interest pretty quickly, despite being a fan of the franchise.

>>168015415
>Considering her bitter or broken is an insult to her struggle and strength and will to happiness, her lively, vivid and bouncy nature.
That's how she acts around Max. With Joyce and David, she's far less happy. She's still bitter and unduly angry at Max sometimes. It wasn't her choice to leave Arcadia Bay.

>Terrible interpretation.
Incredible criticism. I thought you were going to stop responding to my posts?

>>168018038
>Goddamn, this is the thirstiest, most pathetic thread I've ever seen.
There's a definite element of that in the game, but not all /lisg/ers are that bad. A few are capable of stepping back from their lusty attractions to the characters and analyze the story. The richness of the characters and storytelling up until the last episode were incredible. A bad ending ruins what was created in the moment, but not when considered from a distance on their own.

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>>168028540
At the end of the adventure Alice is forced to make a binary choice: live in a world where bunnies eat no carrots or Lisa dies after Max and Warren fuck on top of her then Frank spills beans on her leaves when he gets a turn while Chloe's tears salinate the soil, destroying her chances of regermination.

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>>168033020
Not if I have anything to say about it, Frenchman. I won't let you lay a hand on Lisa, Max, Kate or Alice.

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>>168031876
Max is confirmed for a healslut.

>>168031383
I fixed the picture for you.

>>168033020
>Max being passed around so that everyone gets a turn while Chloe is forced to watch
Anon, please, I can only get SO erect...

>>168033325
Noice.

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>>168033214
Not if I imagine you inside a Kryptonite cage, Kel Alice.

You are a creation of my mind. My will is your fate. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>168033480
>Noice
Thank you. I try.

>Anon, please, I can only get SO erect...
The general was hurt by that portion of the nightmare sequence...I figured the opposite would better appease my fans.

>samefagging this hard

The general often discusses Max and Chloe, Lisa and Alice, Kate and Victoria and the rare Maximum Victory post, what other pairings are acceptable to /lisg/'s collective headcanon?

>>168034676
There's a script to detect that. Unlike Michel , I'm innocent.

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best ship coming through

>>168035217
I hope that ship originated in Mexico because I don't want it anywhere near my ports.

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>>168033684
Joke's on you. My partner Wonder Dorothy has no weakness to Kryptonite.

>>168035157
Warren/Kate
Jefferson/Nightmare Max

>>168028648
"If they run, they're sinners. If they stand still, they're well disciplined sinners"

>>168035217
I hope that ship sinks.

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>>168035439
My imagination was not prepared for this--No! Ugh...

>Sean Prescott will rewind and save him from the heroic bunny so that his conquest of Arcadia Bay will continue.

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>reminder that Max & Chloe will return in Ep. 3 after Ep. 2 is financially disappointing and DONTNOD realise that the appeal of the game is tied to lesbian hipster waifs and their punk girlfriends.

>>168036520
>>168035425
homophobes spotted

>>168037174
That's kinda gay, Anon...

>>168037281
>not 'hella' gay
Rewind and try again.

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>>168037045
>Max & Chloe will return in Ep. 3 after Ep. 2 is financially disappointing
What are you talking about? The first four episodes of Life is Strange brought Dontnod back from fiscal ruin. Max and Chloe were the focus of the first five episodes.

I'm expecting a return at the end of Season 2.

>>168037378
Only Max has the power to turn hella gay.

>>168037473
Meant to say "Season", not "Episode.
I dun goofed...

Season 2 will be disappointing because Max and Chloe won't be in it. They'll bring them back for Season 3.

So I just started this game because I got it from Humble Bundle and why did it attract so much hate again from /v/? I am like rock hard with all the QT girls everywhere

>>168037660
>Meant to say "Season", not "Episode.
>I dun goofed...
Really? I had no idea...

Max and Chloe were great characters. Unless they come up with a new duo that matches their depth, Season 2 won't achieve the same level of success. Hopefully they at least make a cameo appearance. If the Rewind power returns, Max may make an appearance as a mentor to the main character. I'd rather they give us a non-binary ending where a mysterious hero saves the Season Two protagonist in the last episode and, right before it cuts to black, lifts up her hood to reveal she's Max Caulfield, thus setting up a return.

One idea for Season 3: The main conflict is Max and the Season 2 protagonist figuring out a way to save Chloe and stop the Prescotts without destroying the space time continuum. Dontnod drops ambiguous hints as to whether Chloe died in the bathroom or sometime after the Bae ending, thereby enshrining neither ending as canon.

>>168038097
>I am like rock hard with all the QT girls everywhere
What an enlightened fan. I see why you appreciate the game unlike the uncouth /v/ crowd. Nice bait too.

Reposting these for our friend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWQKQDkEJKs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njmkPRFvJx0

They actually make me sentimental too.

>>168038714
Way to be a stereotypical /vg/ fag dude

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BFFs, Pirates, Partners in Time & Crime & In Love, Fellow Dorks, GFs, Wives.
OTP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhvZxmgLfNA

>>168038964
Don't forget the fan epilogue.
Just enough sweetness to give some closure while keeping everything open-ended.

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>>168040320
I lost the link, but here's a written description.

> Chloe and Max don't return to Arcadia Bay when Blackwell re-opens, but stay in Portland.
> Kate Marsh contacts Max when she doesn't come back.
> "I'm with my girlfriend in Portland."
> Kate spurns the "devil worshiping hedonists."
> Without high school degrees, they don't find jobs.
> They end up living in Chloe's truck.
> After a few stints in prison, they seek help from their parents.
> Max's parents, mad at her for wasting their money by ditching private school, won't let her stay with Chloe and bring her back to Seattle
> Max's parents blame Chloe for Max's bad behavior and prevent her from contacting Chloe
> Chloe is abandoned once again.
> Joyce, a conservative southern woman, and David, a traditional Republican, send Chloe to conversion therapy in return for paying her debts.
> Kate suggests a clinic run by her church.
> Chloe is raped by multiple male orderlies each day to ungay her.
> Max wakes up.
> "Wowsers. What a horrible dream. Good thing I sacrificed that blue haired dyke to save the town."
> Goes down the hall to suck Warren's morning wood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9TucT5gfk

>>168040447
Fuck off and get hit by a truck

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>>168040320
>Just enough sweetness to give some closure while keeping everything open-ended.
It only gave closure to Max and Chloe's relationship. The ending didn't address who survived the storm. Photos of Max and Chloe in the album with Kate, David, Joyce and the others taking shelter in the diner would've allayed more concerns.

>>168040764
>pic related

>>168041203
That's not going to end well...

I know what you mean. The other characters are left unaccounted for and I know that's not what Renderanon was going for. He just wanted to cap off the abrupt ending with something that left a better taste in the viewer's mouth than 'they drive out of the town. The End.'
It's obvious in his video that Chloe's home in Arcadia Bay sustained a lot of damage, since that's where the pictures of her parents were recovered from.

But as for something that tries to show more and give closure to other characters, it hasn't been tried yet. Sbel did a little more but even that only showed Joyce, Frank, Warren, and Nathan.
Maybe someday someone will tackle the huge task of making an ending/epilogue that gives a decent amount of closure for each character. Even if it's just a few seconds to show 'hey, they're alive and okay'. Something like a montage ending from the first two episodes would be perfect. I already have what I would have shown planned out but I have no knowledge about animating.

>>168040123
They're late because they were sleeping in

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>>168043951
Yes Kate, they were "sleeping in". Like gal pals do!

>>168035217
Whatever sex life they had would be incredibly kinky

>>168044812
Why do you think they went back to sleep? They woke up, used all their energy, and tired themselves out (again).
It's fine. It's the weekend and they don't have anywhere to be. Maybe they'll go out later in the day or evening.

>>168044910
I find Warren and Nate together strangely adorable. The sex would be kinky and shameful.

>>168046003
Ir's am interesting pairing and if it helps both them out then I see no problem with it.
Keeps Warren out of max's hair, gives Nathan someone to be friends with and talk to, and gives the both of them an outlet for whatever freaky shit they're into.

Oh great now the lisg discord is talking about Warren x Nathan

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Which other video games do you enjoy, /lisg/?

>>168047924
kek

>>168048443
Lately I've just been playing World of Tanks when I have some free time.
But most of this week has been typing essays, reading textbooks, and having a tab of /lisg/ open

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How do I get a dinner date with Kate?

I don't wanna be alone on valentine's day.

>>168048443
Rainbow 6
Ace Combat

Valiant Hearts once it goes on sale

>>168049771
Just ask her politely, Victoria.

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>>168050712

>>168050925
That's more cornering her. But alright.
If she's up for it.

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Brooke just got this MMS

>>168051936
Dental hygiene IS important!
Kate could print out a friendly reminder and leave it by the sinks in the bathroom.

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>>168051936
Kate is so considerate.

Max just got this MMS.

>>168048443
Battlefield 1, Dirt Rally, Rainbow Six Siege.

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>>168052597
Looks more like a photo. They're staying with Joyce and David this weekend.
It's Saturday so Max didn't have to get up for class and chose to sleep in. Chloe had to get up and go to Two Whales for her shift, but she left that on the pillow next to Max for when she wakes up.
Max can go visit Chloe later in the day.

I'm sure they have plans for Valentine's Day as well.

>>168053103
Ok that sounds better.

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Max raids Chloe's wardrobe again

>>168055019
Cute!

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>>168055019
Way to go Max! That's pretty stylish.

>>168055842
After getting back to Seattle, her ad Chloe would both probably need new clothes. Shopping trip!

>>168057710
I would play that game and not even be ashamed.

>>168058983
I would as well. Just a shopping LDC where you get a budget and decide what to try on/buy and plan out a nice little date for them. A chance for them to relax and just be normal teens after the storm and everything else.

Just watched Blue is the Warmest color and it's literally the closest thing I've got to the feels lisg gave me. Does anyone have other recommendations similar to it?

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Yarrgh!

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the man the myth the legend tyler fkin 1 is streaming life is strange RIGHT NOW

>>168061419
yay...? (Who?)

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>>168061627
the best league of legends player to ever grace the scene and the best draven player IN THE WORLD

>>168059359
You and your postly typo quota!

It's cute.

>>168061714
>>168061419
You sound excited!

Have fun watching the stream anon.

>>168061714
Never played LoL, but okay.
If a few of the players I follow played LiS I would probably be excited as well.
Enjoy the stream and try to steer him away from the Bay trap.

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Damn. Rawking out.

>>168061714
Ah! A ghost!

>>168064847
Kate is artistic!
And all their outfits look cute there.

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>>168065059
Neat! But once again that artist consistently does certain things with too much of a texture.
The hair and pants especially.

But those minor criticisms aside. GO, CHLO!

>>168065286
Yeah, the textures are always a little weird.

Carbon Chloe!

>>168065059
>>168065286
I couldn't see Chloe ever being in a band or anything like that, but she plays instruments as a hobby. Good way to be creative and just let out some stress.

>>168065286
>not dead yet

hehe

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Meanwhile, a Max serenades her Chloe

>>168066525
Can't ice the Price!

>>168066525
Rewind this

>>168061419
>>168061714
Wow he actually liked it.

Twitch chat hated it though lol

>>168067639
Max did. That's why she gets to live a long life with Chloe.

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>>168068028
hes gonna kill kate if he plays episode 2

>>168069340
Well that's not good.

>>168069340
Can't wait to see that his reaction I mean, I'm closing my eyes when Kate jumps

>>168059671
Yes, but in the lesbian community, lesbian films are notoriously bad.

Try Holding the Man, a gay male story with a similar feel. Weekend, another gay male story, feels very close.

>>168059671
The Butterfly Effect.

>>168059671
fuck your feels. Go watch bound (the 1996 lesbians vs mafioso thriller, not the recent one which is completely unrelated) for a good ending

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>>168032429
>That sounds kind of like the Evil Dead game awhile back
I could never make it past that fucking gate in the first level. Shame because the game looked really cool. Good luck finding a friendo with a PS4. Bloodborne is phenomenal, it does Lovecraft justice.

>>168059671
Besides lesbians I really don't see any similarities between LiS and Blue is the Warmest color. But for similar stuff check out Spring, Before sunrise/sunset/midnight, Chungking Express, Midnight in Paris and pretty much every Sofia Coppola film.

>>168059671
The only movie I cried to was AI, so try that lol

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Huggles!

Is LiS the only "happy" lesbian story? Where the two girls can end up together without one dead, a break up, or one leaving the other for a man?

>>168073451
Hugs are good!

>>168028084
she deserved to be raped

>>168074287
>Happy

The ending is bittersweet, but the overall story is not happy at all

>>168074287
>Happy
>Game tries to guilt you b/c michel thinks killing the one you love = growing up
>If you choose not to kill her at the end, you get and ending so half-assed, they might as well have slapped 'game over, mission failed' on the screen

>>168075006
>>168075352
Anon put happy in quotes. They still end up alive and together.

I don't know enough lesbian stories to say whether this is actually so uncommon, but since this is commonly referred to as a trope, I wouldn't be surprised if most of them ended in separation.

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>>168074287
>LiS
>happy

>>168061714
Who would Kate play? Sona?

>>168076532
Exactly. Happy as in they're together at the end. And thanks to the half-assed writing we were left with possibilities that Max can just go back and warn more people, avert the storm entirely, or that most people in the town survived. And nobody can say you're wrong for thinking so.

>>168075706
Cute picture and cute filename.
What would a Pricefield be? A wolf cuddling with a doe?

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>>168078684

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>>168079139
Yuriandtea is truly one of the comfiest artists that whole comic was adorable. Bless her.
And have this slightly happier Chloritto.

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>>168078684

>>168078684
Shark n' an Otter

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>>168082719

I was just reading something that said a few journalists showed up not too long ago (Maybe few weeks ago) to see DONTNOD's HQ. They got a tour talked to people and were shown the area where Vampyr is being made. But the interesting thing was that apparently part of the building was blocked off but it was clear they were working on another project.

I know nothing concrete has been said. But with all the tiny hints, here and there, it's starting to paint the picture that LiS S2 is in some stage of development. Unless DONTNOD has yet another game planned and are being secretive about it (Even though they had no problem announcing Vampyr really early on)
If it's S2 then I really would expect it early next year.

>>168084875
Who's jumping off the roof? Max?

>>168085192
Yes.

>>168085192
Yeah. It's some AU where Kate is the one with powers, obviously something bad happened to Max that put her in the situation Kate was in.

>>168085419
Obviously Max became the whore of that vortex party instead of Kate.

>>168084996
IT'S REMEMBER ME 2!

>>168048443
Europa Universalis 4 and S.T.A.L.K.E.R

>>168085519
Kate never became a whore and neither would Max! Being drugged is entirely different!

I was thinking more maybe Max and Chloe reunited earlier than in the game, so they were friends, but Chloe still ended up getting shot and killed. Nathan escapes or is never seen committing the crime.
Kate saves Max (or not) but then she has to use her power to find out what happened to Chloe and go back to save her, so that by extension she saves Max. While also solving the mystery of everything with Jefferson.

>>168085995
So who would be Kate's Chloe aka her partner in time & crime? Victoria? Rachel?

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>>168074920

>>168086121
Max.

>>168086121
Alice :3
Probably Victoria, Kate knows she's friend with Nathan but when Nathan becomes a serious suspect she needs to convince Victoria to help her.
Rachel is still missing and died the same way. Jefferson's still an asshole murderer with Nathan as his accomplice.
Max throughout the story is not a lot of help because she's either dead or in the hospital and miserable (But she gets better once Kate undoes everything and brings Chloe back!)
No storm, Kate got her powers by praying that she could help her friends- so she got a rewind power.

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>>168086121
>>168086605
Jefferson will get the fright of his life when Kate and her partner ambush him.

>>168086605
>Kate believing the Lord has given her divine time powers bring Arcadia Bay closer to salvation.

>>168087749
Even if Kate can't make everyone convert, she can help people of the town and put a very bad man behind bars for good.

>>168088696
Hopefully Sean Prescott gets fucked over too.

>>168088982
Oh he will. Even if he didn't play some role in everything, in which case he is just REALLY stupid, he will get ruined for a lot of stuff.
Neglecting/abusing his son, corruption of the police, paying off Blackwell, funding parties for a club that was constantly breaking the law.

>>168087545
Ah! ANOTHER ghost!

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>>168091552
It is by God's grace.

>>168092270
>ywn liberate Jerusalem from the filthy Saracen Mohammedans with Kate by your side

Why live?

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>>168092457
For the day we first take Constantinople back from the filthy turks and make Hagia Sophia a cathedral again

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>>168094391

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p e r f e c t i o n

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Chloe a CUTE

>>168085419
>obviously something bad happened to Max
Sacrificing Chloe.

>>168085995
>Kate never became a whore and neither would Max! Being drugged is entirely different!

>>168071592
>I could never make it past that fucking gate in the first level.
Cool idea. Great franchise. Bruce Campbell voiced it. Shame they got lazy with the actual game. The entire franchise deserves better.

The Last Door is described as a love letter to Lovecraft by its developers. It captures the style well. I was honored when a reviewer once compared my work to Lovecraft. Despite his personal failings, he knew how to craft a world and tell a weird tale. Did you see the Lovecraft references in LiS?

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>>168095409
Dead people can't be cute haha:)

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>>168095409
hella right

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>>168085419
Wasn't there a fic about this?

I read a fic about Chloe getting powers, but it was pretty shit, this seems interesting though

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>>168094538
>You will never get to cuddle little Kate

>>168095661
Good things Chloe's alive and well then.

>>168095805
Not that I know of. But I'd read a fic based around that concept.
There's been one or two with Chloe getting powers, neither of which was that good as you pointed out, but I've never seen one with Kate.

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>>168087749
And I will use it to purge the town of its hedonistic Vortex Club and Sapphic sluts

>>168092270
It certainly is.

>>168092457
I'm waiting for the next executive order.

>>168092896
Indeed.

>>168095657
Being drugged unwillingly and doing that stuff IS different than doing it purposely.

>>168096161
I agree. Somehow my thank you was deleted.

This is what the post was supposed to look like.

>>168085995
Thank you.

>>168096315
No worries.
Though I would hope no one is that stupid to sincerely think what happened to Kate was her fault (I'm sure there is, but I don't want to see it.)

>>168029117
After max rewinds automax takes over until she gets to the point in time where she rewound. The fact that she "wakes up" and the town hasn't been destroyed means that the storm didn't hit Arcadia bay.

>>168096491
Then don't go to /v/ or numerous MRA sub-Reddits.

>>168097581
That's why bay doesn't make sense and is full of plotholes, going by the logic of the game it should still come. It's forced, lazy writing.

Who wants some cute, romantic (and lewd) Pricefield? The whole story's pretty good but this chapter was hella adorable.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11802789/41/Don-t-give-up

>>168097581
That's not the point. The point is Max, and the player, are given no reason to think letting Chloe die would fix the storm.
The storm appears in Max's vision before doing anything and is coming in every timeline she goes to, even when Chloe is already dead from Jeffeson shooting her.
The story is trying to hint she needs to die at a specific moment but nothing backs that up. Max makes changes prior to saving Chloe, and can only go back to a point AFTER she saved her once (The original butterfly photo is lost for good, Chloe has the one taken after changes were made) and saving anybody else didn't cause a storm.

>>168098284
Nice shill. If you want us to read a novel length work, create your own characters.

>>168098869
Don't be rude, fanfiction keeps us alive
>>168098284
This is hella lewd though

>>168098869
I WISH I could write a good fic. If I did, I would link it as my own because I would take pride in it. Not act like some totally random reader.

>>168098869
I can't even...

>>168098986

Isn't this fan-fiction?>>168096089
>>168040447

>>168099004
I haven't written fan fiction in almost 20 years, but I've considered it for LiS. Most likely it'd just be something short: Chloe considering suicide after Rachel disappears and before Max comes back. My other project idea was too ambitious. It'd take away from my paid fiction/screenwriting gigs. As much as I love the characters, it wouldn't be a productive use of my time. They already have a devoted fan base; I don't want to put less than my best effort into a noir-ish Pricefield piece because I'm distracted by assignments on deadline.

>>168099190
There are better ways to self-promote.

>>168095805
>>168095997
There is a long as fuck one that has Chloe with the time powers.

>>168099463
I think that's the one, I read 40(!) chapters of it (thank god they were short) before I dropped it. It was so edgy and melodramatic, and Chloe hadn't even gotten her powers yet.

>>168097581
>"What we actually got, and the possible outcomes based on Max's knowledge at the time of the final choice"
>"at the time of the final choice"
Please try carefully reading the large text. It might help with your confusion.

>>168099391
I know how you feel. I had my own grand ideas, especially right after the game, and just kept putting them off or didn't trust my ability to do my ideas or the characters justice.
Now enough time has passed and my own ideas have either appeared in others works because they also thought of them or my own thoughts have been changed by what I've read the past year. I'd hate to type something out, having it be riddled with errors, or be accused or stealing from others.

>>168099463
I think I know what one you're talking about 'Life is Stranger' or something. I honestly cannot follow it or make sense of it. It's way too long and from what I have read it drags on into OC territory.

>>168099648
>>168099769
Where did the story go as far as you guys read it?

>>168099769
>OC territory.
That's what turns me away from longer fan fiction. At a certain point it might as well be another canon.

>>168099995
Every fanfic IS another canon.

>>168099969
If it's the one I'm thinking of, the first chapters were Chloe jumping off the cliff and then the power activated and rewound her to before she jumped. There was something with Max being sick from something and just about dying, I think Rachel came back, Max and Chloe had more than one fight after becoming a couple.I dunno.

Like I said, I honestly could not follow the plot. It really just seemed like the ramblings of a mad person.

>>168098869
>complaining about people providing free content

>>168100160
>It really just seemed like the ramblings of a mad person.
Like all of us in this general?

>>168100247
/lisg/'s been pretty consistent and easy enough to follow the thought patterns and discussions.
We're all mad, but in a good way.

>>168099969
>Max visits Chloe when she gets to Blackwell
>Chloe tells Max she hates her for leaving and slams the door
>Max gets pissed off and puts Victoria into chokehold when she gets to the dorms
>Chloe literally can't even and SPRINTS off the lighthouse (insert me laughing here)
>Chloe wakes up in a hospital, the nurse spouts off paragraphs of exposition about love and lesbians
>Nathan literally tries to punch Max to death in the courtyard for hurting Vic, Chloe saves her
>They go to the treehouse and Chloe grows wings made of blue butterflies, also she sees her dad
>Chloe and Max fuck

To be honest, I should've stopped at an earlier point.

>>168100450
>All that.
I'm glad I didn't miss out on anything.

>>168100450
lolwut.
Really there's only a handful of long, ongoing, fics that I follow and read as updated. Everything else is just oneshots or shorter stories I see pop up.
I don't know what I'll do once people stop posting stuff, probably go through FF and AO3 and hope to find stuff I missed.

>>168100450
>Fic with Max choking Victoria
This really shouldn't be relevant to my interests.

But somehow it is.

>>168100814
Someone on leddit made a pretty good compilation of the "best" fics, if you care enough to go on there

>>168101049
Maybe. I just use tags I'm interested in. There's also the fic recs in the OP

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>>168100814
Gonna shamelessly self plug again:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/7741639/chapters/17648473

I really would like to write some more stuff sometime.

>>168101983
Go for it, Skippy! Your story was great.
You could either continue it or maybe do some kind of ___ years in the future thing.

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BONGO!

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I might've found a way to trigger these 2 unused scenes from ep4.

>>168106289
Every time I see Kate with her violin I just think of her playing 'Nearer My God To Thee'

>>168106827
And what would those be?
Episode 4 was there things started going downhill so if there's actually something that was cut it could show their original intentions.

>>168106941
Max had a scene where she would carry the gun while investigating in Jefferson's car. Jefferson was going to get shot, Chloe shot too (on her leg), but Max still kidnapped. The investigation sequence - David was helping Jefferson to find victims.

>>168107092
Fuck, that first part would've been so much better than what we got, I always wondered why Max didn't use Nathan's gun

Not sure about David helping Jeffie though

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Gonna leave this here.

>>168107092
>>168107704
>David was helping Jefferson to find victims.
That doesn't make a lick of sense. Right from the start he practically had a "Reds under the beds" attitude towards surveillance. Episode 2 and 3 even hinted at the two having an animosity towards one another with Jefferson calling him an asshole behind his back and David thinking Jefferson was shady.

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Gonna leak more stuff like this later.

>>168107092
I do not buy that last part at all.
There was evidence that at one point Max would be in Jefferson's car and there would be some choice to call the cops or kill, probably regarding Nathan. As in Mark tried to get Max and Chloe to do his dirty work, get rid of Nathan, and then he would turn on them and shoot Chloe/drug Max.
Uncomfy spoiler
There was also evidence, and voice lines, of Max seeing Chloe's dead body in the Dark Room in a bodybag. As if Jefferson was going to pose them together. Thankfully that part was dropped entirely.

>>168108220
So it looks like David was spying on Max and Chloe at the party parking lot? His rescue would make more sense

>>168107810
>>168108220
Where is this stuff coming from? Because we've had access to all the in-game animations and sound files (including those which were included but never used), so unless this is coming from some external source, it's nothing hugely new. I doubt anyone has properly gone through and checked each and every animation against the actual game though, so maybe there's something slightly new to be found on that front.

Having the names of the mocap actors who performed each action is kinda cute, but they had fewer actors than characters, so it's hard to draw solid connections between what characters might have been in which scenes based on the actor. I don't know if that's what you're hinting at though.

Happy to render out some simple versions of any named animations though (assuming they're in the game files).

>>168108345
Not really. He came to the Dark Room hours late. It's more likely that Joyce called him after Chloe hadn't arrived back home.

>>168108220
A cute little detail I just noticed - those dates! They were shooting Episode 4 animations as early as April. I guess it makes sense, but it's a neat little detail to use when we try to piece together what was made when, what changes were made to things when, etc.

How complete is that list for other episodes? Would be cool to see how far in advance a lot of this stuff was done.

>>168108753
>They were shooting Episode 4 animations as early as April
And yet somehow they hadn't finished the script until just a month before Episode 5's release.

>>168108853
But hey, it won them a BAFTA award for best writing

who cares about logic just make it emotional!

>>168108564
Yeah. I think he either came home, or Joyce called him when Chloe didn't return, he went in saw the board in Chloe's room and the location and went
"oh shit" and figured they were in trouble.

Though in the final timeline Chloe and Max went back to Chloe's house and told him about the Dark Room so he called the Police and went with them while the girls stayed home (And totally did things that resulted in subtle timeline changes and more people escaping the storm)

>>168108853
Ehh, I think there's a reasonable enough difference, given that so much of the game's dialogue is given in a way that doesn't need explicit mocap animations. Even if they had all the main beats of every scene down and finished months in advance, they can still add/revise as much dialogue into those shot-reverse-shot-standing-with-automated-"lipsynch" type moments as they want. Obviously this doesn't seem like an ideal way to pace out a scene, but, eh, I can see them wanting to add/revise stuff where they could, especially given that nothing really makes much sense anyway.

Really, the interesting thing would be to know when the last VA sessions were. I think we have a fairly reasonable idea of this from instagram posts, but I'm not sure we ever found a full timeline of those before. And presumably it's easier to do some last-minute VA recording than it is to do last-minute mocap, so that could be a factor too.

>>168109191
>who cares about logic just make it emotional!

hello plebbit

>>168108853
It is infuriating. They also took like two months more to release Episode 5 and they didn't even use that extra time to make sure things were believable, consistent, or enjoyable. The only redeeming parts were a few of the nightmare scenes and saving Chloe with the photo. But even that last one was a scene I was really looking forward to, a truly emotional breakdown and confession from Max, and they just scratched the surface.

>>168109190
>Friendly reminder that Kate's family is dead now and she's all alone

>>168109546
>They also took like two months more to release Episode 5 and they didn't even use that extra time to make sure things were believable, consistent, or enjoyable.
It's hard to remember now but back then the announcement that it would take up to three months total was agonizing. And to have it turn out to be such a disappointment made it so much worse. They took the time to include fanservice in Episode 4 but they couldn't be assed with polishing their finale. Even something as simple as including viewable files in the Dark Room would have been nice because at least it would provide more context for Jefferson's crimes.

>>168109747
There were so many things they could have done to improve the finale and not one of them was done. It really is the best to just assume it never happened or say Max found a third option that saved both Chloe and nearly the entire town.

>>168109749
o shit. It's the surprise Max-hug from episode 4.

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>not Max's right hand
One Job.

Still cool.

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>>168111307

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>>168111397

Fuck a sequel. I want LiS remade with a bigger budget, more gameplay, more choices, more endings, and everything that was scrapped to be put back in all jammed packed into one game - No episodes.

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>>168111475
they are all dead haha:)

>>168111574
And there deaths are for the greater good.

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>>168111574
In brightest day, in stormiest night
No bad writer shall escape her sight,
Let those who worship tragedy's might,
Beware her power - Kate Marsh's Light!

Michel did nothing wrong.

>>168111574
>>168111602
Imagine how many tornadoes would have hit if Michel didn't gas these small furry animals.

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>>168111574
>>168111602
>>168113484
>>168113723
Shut up Michel! You did everything wrong and those small furry animals are just fine.

>>168111475
I've seen this pic dozens of times, but I'm still not really sure who they're supposed to be. I get Kate and Vicky, but the other two? Taylor and Courtney? Because Courtney's hair doesn't match. Similarly with Max and Chloe. Could they be Dana and Juliet? If so, what relation do they have to Victoria and Kate that would make the artist add them in? I guess the other alternative is that the other two rabbits are Kate's two sisters ... but that'd seem a little odd to put them there with Victoria too?

I'm just confused.

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>>168113991
I thought they were kate's sisters. Admittedly it's difficult to tell because they have such a strong family tradition of dressing up.

>>168113991
>http://dotsotbibimbap.tumblr.com/post/155669856700/someone-requested-to-draw-this-picture-based-on
>http://priestessamy.tumblr.com/post/135326067408/i-have-a-very-silly-fic-request-its-winter-time
It's Kate's sisters. Victoria was invited to snooze with the three of them.

>>168114106
Kate, Alice and the Marsh family are not part of the Klan!

All of you who insult Michel... are ingrates. Without him, you wouldn't have any of this in the first place.

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>>168114287
A man who deliberately ruins his own creation is not worthy of our respect.

>>168114287
is a slave ingrate because his owner gives him food and a place to sleep?

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Tippy toes.

>>168114287
I am grateful.

I like Michelmemeing, but if I were to meet anyone of the team, including Michel, I would shake their hand and I'm sure the first and natural thing that came to my mind and out of my mouth would be a gesture of appreciation and "thank you".

...Doesn't mean I wouldn't then also give him a headbutt and shit on his car, but, you know.

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>>168114649
Is that you Car Poop Anon?

>>168114730
Nope, just summoning upon his spirit.

>>168114106
Tradition goes a long way.

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Everyone's asleep...

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>>168114106
>>168115040
This is not okay. My family are nice and don't discriminate against people based on the color of their skin. Stop being mean.

>>168115714
I'm awake, anon.

I like to imagine Max waking up from Dark Room nightmares, and Choe comforting her in the middle of the night, with them drifting off to sleep again in a peaceful dream.

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>>168115879
Really little bunny, your innocence knows no limits. Do you think it's a coincidence Kate chose a white rabbit as her pet? Think about it.

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>>168116027
Do you think it's a coincidence that your career ended up as a high school teacher after critics called your work "derivative and unbearably pretentious"?

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>>168116190
I'm sure you're aware that was just the work I did for public consumption. I gave the magazines what they wanted, and they gave me the money I needed to explore my true interests with. Real art, in a far more intimate setting and subject matter. I'm sure you're aware of your "mother" Kate's contribution to that. She was so incredibly helpful. I did so enjoy exploring the boundaries of true artistry with her. Her corruption was exquisite.

>>168116574
Now you're just being mean to be honest, Mark.

And unbearably pretentious. Glorified masturbation is not art. ...Is it? No, it really isn't.

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>>168116574
>Real art
That's not how I'd describe glorified pedo filth. You're a talentless hack who has to leech off of a spoiled rich brat.

And as for my "corrupted" mother, she'll be making it big with her picture books while you spend every other day being beaten and broken by your fellow inmates.

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>>168114106
Celebrating Jesus' sacrifice for us with the capriote is a truly noble thing

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>>168115935
That would definitely happen then and again. Maybe less so Dark Room nightmares, as Max handled that really well and coped with it, but nightmares of other realities and the fear of Chloe being dead in them.

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>>168117362
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>Jefferson stops by to be horrible to Kate and her pet

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Anyway, I don't think the art world will get the chance to appreciate Mr. Jefferson's little project.

Because I used his folders as a toilet.

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>>168117591
But then they'd hold on even tighter and only have the most fantastic dreams.

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>>168117748

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>>168117464
I don't want be MOR-BID, as Joyce pronounced, but I could imagine Chloe waking up after nightmares about Rachel, seeing her face in that shallow grave.

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>>168117996
I think so too. That really is just gruesome. Especially since it is such an synaesthetically engraving experience, with the sheer horror and intensity of the experience emotionally and physically - in the digging, the dirt between fingernails and all over hands, as well as the stench. The contrast of a particularly-lively sunny, sun-burnt, warm, enticingly-smelling girl to the cold, moldy and pale corpse under white moon light, its smell.

That's nightmare material and sticks with you even regardless of what you make of the experience itself, i. e. think of it as something liberating and cathartic in a sense, like I do.

In the moment, it was actually less of an emotional scene for me and more just downright hauntingly macabre.

It takes some serious Maxhugging to go back to sweet dreams after one of such.

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Why do I like this game so much despite its massive flaws?

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http://pyx-1.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/game.jsp#game=71
password: lis

Do join in if you aren't at church!

Jefferson did everything wrong.

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>>168028054
>Not posting best Mad Max

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Repostan.

>>168127159
Nicely done.

>>168117164
>Max handled that really well and coped with it,
She dealt with it in the moment, but trauma takes time to process. Some young foster kids don't have trauma related outbursts until their tweens, teens or later. Max was kidnapped and abused--possibly sexually--by her mentor, a man she admired, respected and trusted. There's no way she'd brush it off forever, especially in the state she was left after that week.

>>168128449
What does /lisg/ think was the extent of Kate and Jefferson's relationship? How close were they? Did they engage in pre-marital handholding?

>>168128983
DELETE THIS YOU SICKO

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>>168116927
>while you spend every other day being beaten and broken by your fellow inmates.

What a lovely use of...imagination.

>>168111480
I think we ALL want that

>>168118851
Maybe if she's still lingering around, Rachel's spirit could visit Chloe in a dream and just give her some peace.
Maybe appearing in her human form to Chloe and just being like

"I am SO sorry I fucked up, Chloe. I know part of you will always love me, and another part will always be made at me, but just remember the good times and know that I did care about you as my best friend. I wish things could have been different, but I'm okay. And so are you, I see you with Max. You'll be fine as long as you be there for each other."

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Any of you guys think its possible to be happy without Kate Marsh in your life?

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>>168134046
It's too late now

>>168134437
That's me but with Pricefield

>>168134046
Yes

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>>168137275
sometimes it doesn't seem like it, anon.

>>168135949
>The High Council has spoken

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Max did nothing wrong and anyone that thinks she did, or thinks she needs to be punished, is hella stupid.

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Flower crowns for the QTs

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>>168127540
She was not sexually abused, stop bringing anti-canon shit up. It is outright established in the game that he did not physically interfere with his victims beyond the drugging and posing, there is plenty suggesting it was outright not about physical satisfaction, and we have nothing to suggest he did sexually abuse her; everything else is your own fantasy. And don't start with your "unlikely but possible" nonsense - talk about the game, or don't.

You are right that it could, and should have more of a psychological impact; I deal in what we see in the game, which shows her in control in the Dark Room even after she's returned there multiple times, and shows her confront Jefferson even after it all bravely, determinedly and courageously. She was not scared, not of the experience nor him, but remained firm in her position and her fight against him, which she won more than once, keeping a cool and calculating head. The narrative sentiment is that she is strong and that he did not get to her, that she defies him as a person and whatever "artist" he believes himself to be. I choose to see that as a characterization of her, her strength and growth and her dealing with that experience with confidence and conviction, fueled by an unbreakable will-power to get back to Chloe. I have next to no interest in a psychologized reading of narrative or characters, but of course it is not invalid (and there's things to be said about the nightmare).

I see that they make each other better psychologically as well. Even after all the terrible shit. That whatever residual problems it and other experiences could cause for either of them, they could work through. Because we see them do so in the game, heal mutually, on all levels (the nightmare precisely being one such example, in as much as Chloe helps Max through and out of it).

Realistically, she would probably need therapy, and that would include talking about her relation to the Dark Room stuff.

>>168142000
Trips redeems flower crowns as an accessory.

>>168142609
Unfortunately she can't talk about the Dark Room with anyone but Chloe. They could say they found it and saw photos of Kate, Rachel, etc. but Max was never technically a victim.
She could talk to a therapist about other stuff like "nearly seeing people die", finding Rachel, and other stuff but nothing involving other timelines or time travel. Unless she described it under the guise of it being nightmares she's had.
But who knows? She has Chloe, Joyce, David, her friends, and her own parents. Maybe she would eventually tell her parents the FULL story just so they would know everything and would know their daughter wasn't being hysterical or insane.
Likewise, Chloe would need to open up to her own family and probably need to resume her therapy. Both as an individual and with Joyce and David if they really want to try fixing things.

>>168132035
We mentioned how Max talking to her about the spirit doe and the idea of Rachel leading them to her and into safety, finding rest, could give Chloe peace.

I do think Chloe did make "peace" with a lot of what Rachel meant to her, in a narrative sense. As a person, and with that having happened, it's true that getting it out of her system, her dreams, would be a work in progress that functions more gradually, psychologically. Time and repeated coping rituals with Max, such as talking about her, even visiting the junkyard as part of confronting it all, talking to Frank, to her parents and being able to go through some of her stuff perhaps.

>>168143962
That is true, in the end, she never did get captured. She could still reasonably try and tackle it in a therapy setting, seeing as how people close to her went through that experience, and since he was her teacher and she discovered the bunker. This would definitely validate psychological work on that general topic and how she deals with the thought (or, as she could bring up: dreams) of being imprisoned in that bunker as a victim.

As humans, I'd also like to see them seek professional help. Especially as a family, as you say. Joyce is actually clinically depressed, David far as we have to assume is diagnosedly suffering PTSD, and their family situation could absolutely need some counselling regardless. And Chloe and Max individually could certainly benefit from seeing a professional as well. That would be the preferable reality of it. The sentimental narrative however has me convinced at least Max and Chloe would be their all in everything, that grand idea of healing and becoming whole together.

>>168144526
They could also visit Rachel's grave. But yeah, Chloe being open and talking about it would be the best thing. It may hurt her to do so at first, but once she's comfortable with it it will help her. Sadly, Chloe has not had it easy and has lost numerous people very close to her very abruptly. I think towards the end of the game she realizes what her mother was trying to tell her about people being gone but the memories staying alive.

Max may be able to do without any 'outside' help, but she would seek it if she felt she needed it, and just rely on Chloe and her own family. Chloe needs it though.
Even just the two of them talking to their individual friends would help some. Chloe and Frank chatting and being truthful about Rachel; Max, Kate, and Victoria talking about Jefferson and Nathan.
Obviously their biggest healing factors will be each other. It would be understandable if they wanted to talk to their own friends about subjects they may not be able to talk about/understand together.
If Max and Chloe REALLY felt comfortable with it, they could even visit Jeffershit in prison. To talk to him one final time and see he's not some powerful force, he is a pathetic man that they defeated.

>>168108220
More leaks WHEN

>>168146684
That all seems reasonable.

Besides, that professional help would likely (probably, hopefully? You never know in the U.S. about these things... see: war veterans, Chloe in the AU...) be state-sponsored, or - better yet - Prescott-sponsored. So why not take it.

>>168147036
Oh yeah. Prescotts are going to be sucking up big time to try to save what's left of their reputation and money.
They are going to get sued big time or even face criminal investigations after everything. Would not be surprised if Max and Chloe end up with a decently sized house for dirt cheap.

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>>168148360
Or they'll just kidnap Max and force her to summon another storm like they did with Rachel

>>168148360
Exactly. At the least, they'd seek to save their reputation in the area and help people as well as rebuild the town's infrastructure. And more than that, they'd very likely be on the string for the physical and emotional damages Nathan caused others, and for their money spent on the bunker and equipment used for the crimes, as well as continued financial support that apparently got them the drugs. As culpably negligent in much of it.

And the victims specifically (and Chloe was a victim of Nathan's drugging, after all) could absolutely take away a large compensation. Maybe in a generous out-of-court agreement with the Prescotts. Maybe Rachel's parents would even feel compelled to give a lot of their share to the Price's. Because they know the family can use it, because Chloe was the only one still searching when even they were in denial, and because she, Max and ultimately David brought "justice" to her and everyone else.

...Well, or they think (and maybe the Marshes push for it) that justice can only be served in court - then Max can still just play the market and take some few millions from the too-astronomically-rich-anyway world of corporate and finance, should they want or need big money like that and not get it in court.

>>168149504
>Let's piss off a Time Lord, what could go wrong?

>>168149998
It worked for Rachel, why wouldn't it work for Max?

>>168149085
>that's the opening to Season 2: Domestic Life of Max and Chloe in Seattlean Suburbia
>Includes exciting tasks such as: grocery shopping, shopping for clothes, shopping for Max's birthday, arranging a date, going on said date, pampering the GF, going on sight-seeing adventures, organizing and celebrating said birthday, kissing, hugging, cooking (adventures), visiting the senpai both in Seattle and back in Arcadia, sleeping in, getting a small tattoo, driving around listening to music and having picnics at random places, gazing stars, Roadtrip DLC is in the works

>>168150537
Because Max is smarter and would destroy them the second she got free.

>>168150850
I would log thousands of hours in that game!

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>>168151319
I would become the number 1, most mechanically versed player in the world at the art of Intense Pricefield Snuggling.

>>168151796
There's a competitive scene where panels of judges rate each date based on numerous factors such as:
Location, activity, time/weather, fashion, creativity, refreshments, how the date ends, and time/money spent.

>>168149085
A nice house, with a pool, right outside Seattle. Short drive from Max's parents and a few hours from Chloe's family in Arcadia Bay.
All paid for, courtesy of the Presscotts (Some of which still end up in prison)