/wowg/ - World of Warcraft general

panda farts

So I heard they gave hunters traps back. Does that mean they gave explosive trap knockback back as well? I remember it was a glyph.

Knocking people off cliffs with explosive trap was literally the only reason I played this game and when they removed traps entirely I quit.

>>168017446
why doesn't current wow ?

>>168017689
it still has weather just not as obnoxious

>>168017650
go play OW and main Lucio.

>>168017650
Trap knockback was boring anyway. There was a knockback shot thing, that was the shit.

Now it's only druids, shaman, paladin pvp thing.

>>168017874
some priestspecc got one too

Is ret boring to raid as? How's it and holy doing in pvp? Is the order hall quest line good or nah? I've heard priests hall has to be uncucked by paladins.

tokens pls go back down

>>168018091
really boring to play
performs well in pve and pvp
the story is shit like every story in legion

For the love of all that is good, why isn't instant cast Dreadstalkers baseline in PvE and PvP

>>168018091
this: >>168018183

t. ret/prot main

>>168017874
Fuck me man.

Is any damn class in Legion fun? Or have they just removed everything that made the game fun from every class?

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rate my shit shadowpriet tmog

>>168018372
Yeah I had such a great time spamming frostbolt for an entire raid tier that lasted like a year, fuck having a "rotation", whatever that means

>>168018272
This. A lot of abilities for casters that should be instant aren't for no reason at all. Dreadstalkers, voidform, etc.

Meanwhile mages can fucking BLINK WHILE CASTING

What the fuck kind of balance design is this shit

>>168018283
>>168018183
Is it just slow or is there another reason its boring?

>>168018372
some people enjoy the mongomelees
heard some good things about shadowpriests
but overall most classes just arent fun

I'm about to get carried in EN hc by some friends because I started playing 2 weeks ago, but I don't want to be absolute deadweight, so I watched some guides
are fatboss guides still good? that's what I watched
if I die I'm pretty sure I can just wait and collect my achievements afterwards, but I also don't want to be complete deadweight because that's not fun

>>168018445
Its basically "waiting on cooldowns" - the class

>>168018445
static boring rotation mostly
at first youll like the flashy animations but it wears of fast

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>>168017782
>>168017874
You fucks lied to me.

>>168018589
This is what always worries me. I get into a class because of the spell effects/armor/weapons but after playing it for a few months all that wears off.

>>168018489
If your friends are at an ilvl where they're doing HC nighthold they'll probably be able to ignore HC EN mechanics for the most part. You won't touch their damage either.

>>168018596
>lied

ha, it's called "trolololling" my boy. stick around 4chan and you might learn a few things about it. remember "noone would believe the stories posted by a 4chan user" -moot (4chan founder)

So what are your overall opinions about Artifact weapons?

Gotta be honest, I'm not a big fan of the Artifact weapon system.

>>168018723
Apparently they're still progressing in HC ToV

Am I in for a wild ride?

>>168018426
Voidform and Mind Flay should be instant cast and on the move casting respectively

Eleshamans should get half their rotation instant cast

Pretty much everything in the Warlock Honour Trees should be made baseline for the spec as a whole, both in and out of PvP

Ice Floes should be class wide since they're supposed to be "Conjurors"

Aimed Shot should be castable on the move, why on Azeroth is it not?


And that's just some of the many issues with immobile hardcasting in a mobility-heavy expac.

What made Blizzard hate casters so much this expac?

>>168018723
I'm not >>168018760 this guy
they haven't cleared HC nighthold but I forgot where they are right now
they can clear it without me, I'm only there for the carry, and I don't think my damage will matter a lot either, it was more of a question of what guides are usually good these days
I expect to die, but I'd rather try to stay alive and do the actual mechanics because it's more fun than just sitting on the floor

>>168018840
>Blizzard hate casters so much this expac

>Yet mage and spriest have both been #1 and #2 on dps metres for 2/3rds of the expansion

>>168018753
horrible idea really one of the worst systems ever
it doesnt feel rewarding its just tedious
especially with blizzards balancing
there is nothing worse than farming your weapon and then to get that specc nerfed and your points not refunded

>>168018596
Try getting to that Honour Level and then come back to tell us all off.

>>168018840
Demo warlock in legion is by far the clunkiest spec I've ever played in this game.

>>168018881
While the rest have been bottom.

Mage and Spriest also took a nerf I beleive and are no longer top. As well as other casters sinking further.

Spriest also had been built around the most broken talent ever, both positively and negatively broken, in what I believe is an unique Raid mechanic that allowed horrible abuse of it. It's also gotten slapped down.

>>168019036
atleast demo was fun in pvp untill blizzard remembered that there is no fun allowed and killed it
>from blizzcon specc to not viable in pvp

>>168019036
It's probably one of, if not the, clunkiest THING I've played in any game.
And I've played Too Human and Sonic Heroes.

>tfw blizzard will never just make survival a healing spec

How many reddit posts do you think I need to make before their lead devs do this.

Can I call them sexists against girls for not giving the girl class a heal spec?

Which classes would you say have the best/worst legendaries for their specs?

>>168018860
The WoWhead guides are generally pretty good, and often simply having DBM installed means you get most of the stuff you have to do down unless something is particularly complex.

>>168019492
Paladin is the girl class, m8.

noob question - are your skillbars remembered when you respec? or do you need to re order them every time?

and also, is it possible to comfortably change between protection warrior and fury warrior without needing to waste money redoing talents?

>>168019669
then how come towliee plays it

>>168018881
S2M and Fire Mage Legendary bracers were broken.

Neither of those classes as a whole were, though. In fact, they were actually pretty niche. Strong, but certainly not on top. If you look at mages without that one BiS leggo they got fucked on damage

>>168018881
>both been #1 and #2 on dps metres for 2/3rds
>Meanwhile mages have been mid tier at best ever since ToV

>>168019669
Why?

>>168019694
it's saved

you can respec for free whenever you want without need to go to a trainer anymore

>>168019694
Yes

Yes, can do it for free anywhere that is a rest area, so cities, inns, etc.

>>168019669
You forgot druid

>>168019694
Every spec have their own bars and talents, they are all remembered. You only have to set up your talents are bars once for every spec.

>>168019768
>>168019785
>>168019819
Cool, so it's kind of like Rift's system now?

Do you need different gear for arms/fury warrior?

And do you need different gear for protection warrior besides shield + 1h?

>>168019801
Yeah you're right. Def druid moreso than paladin though. If any of my male friends played druid me and my other buddies would probably fuck his ass for being so queer.

>>168019901
For optimization you need different gear. But generally it doesn't matter if you're just paying casually.

>>168019901
Different specs have different stat priorities (like having to have x amount of haste) so yes, after the initial levelling phase of "its got higher ilvl, chuck it on" you do need to have separate gear for it.

Artifacts cover all your weapons, though. So there aren't any weapon drops. You upgrade your artifact over time.

>>168019701
he plays male toon though

>>168020023
so does naguura

>>168019994
So the artifact system stops you from being optimal in multiple specs?

What stats does fury warrior prioritize?

>>168019901
for anything serious, you'll need different gear, mainly for the secondary specs (crit, haste, vers etc).

You can survive casul/questing/WQ/LFR with the same gear between specs, even with hybrid classes, as -for example- leather chests give both agility and int.

>>168020052
cock envy

Tauren Paladin or Tauren Warrior?

I like Warriors, never played a Paladin

>>168020215
tauren paladins are a lore abomination

ded game

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>11+ HoV
>heals ragequits after first boss
>dps switches spec
>still get two chests

>ilevel 851 on my main
>ilevel too high to get any upgrades from any LFR except shit I've already done this week, or shit that's not open yet
>ilevel too low to get into mythics/pugs
>no friends to carry me into mythics/pugs

Well what the fuck do I do now.

>resubbed after not playing since wotlk
>decided to go elemental shammy
>hit 100, done all the the quests apart from shit in suramar
>done LFR up to Royal Athenaeum
>finished class order hall campaign

bit lost atm, what should I be doing next?

currently ilvl842

>>168020237
Why is it even allowed?

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Is enh shaman any fun/good right now?

>>168020373
Stop being an antisocial scrub and join a guild.

I wanna have one of each race and one of each class

Help me choose the best race + class combos

So far I got

Human - Paladin
Tauren - Warrior

>>168020419
Nothing in this game is fun now.

>>168020237
okay tauren monk it is

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>reach 54 in main spec
>now have to cram inventory space and bank until they're nearly full and switch specs to use them all
>for two specs
Add a "add to x specialization from now on" option for all AP items blizzard you fucks

So i just killed guldan for the first time on my ret pally and 2 trinkets dropped which have +intel and some other spell casting effect. They came up as something i could roll on in loot council, what gives?

>>168020471
I'm in a guild, I don't have the ilvl to raid yet so what should I be doing to gear up?

Thinking about making shaman alt, probably resto. Which race is the best? Draenei or dwarf?

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>>168020373
do mythic 0s, get a keystone and maybe do some M+

bg's and arenas are fun too and give like 855 minimum I think

maybe try and get into a kara or N/H emerald nightmare group

those are all the immediate upgrade paths in my head

>>168020471
>join a guild so you can get cucked and benched over legendaries/specs

>>168020620
Mythic dungeons, LFR. Also world quests.

I never really enjoyed this mmo as much as i enjoy other mmos. It was a constant struggle of which char to main + the new models and animations look so fucking bad. Graphics are not comparable to any other "competiting" mmo" (battlegrounds, every area till wod, btw the legion areas arent good either) everything became so simplified and monotone (leveling, lfg, endgame), pvp is just boring, + blizz is making constant "tuning" making aspies complain on forums how their characters are now shite despite for example being good for a reasonable amount of time, every expansion is the same - first they anounce on blizzcon how they are gonna improve the game then they either dont implement that or its just equally bad. Hope many people leave this piece of crap asap.

>>168020662
>>168020698

Is 842 ilvl enough for mythics?

I'll farm up some world quests in the mean time, can you queue mythics with dungeon finder?

>>168020618
rets a hybrid spellcaster(technically because they have spells) so that completely useless dogshit trinket is in the loot pool.

>>168020751
I enjoyed Rift more than WoW but it's dead p2w trash right now

I didn't enjoy GW2

ESO looks like ass

And I'm sick of asian shit like Tera/BnS/BDO etc

>>168020774
Mythics drop ilvl 840 gear. Literally use the dungeon journal.

>>168020751
Welcome to the World of Warcraft general!
I hope you enjoy your time here.

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i'm 872 and i can't get into any m+ higher than 6

what the fuck is wrong with these people

i pull 300k+ dps and don't fuck up mechanics which is better than a lot of people can say

oh wait, they're not looking for a competent group, they're looking to get carried by 900+ players

>>168020215
tauren death knight aka the master race

>>168020841
Rift was great during the first half a year but it went downhill pretty quick afterwards.

>>168020995
I wish they kept Rifts as an actual risk needed to be contained, not just self contained babby zones

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>>168020954
>i pull 300k+ dps
300k on AoE packs is shit.

>>168020351
quit, I've come to the same realization

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>>168020885
Whats a good Marksmanship build? Anyone?

>>168020070
Artifact system requires a lot of investment in time into one spec, but it doesn't stop you from doing both.

Really now specs are more like mains/alts until you get enough artifact research to boost up another spec. Takes time, is all.

I don't play fury but from what I can gather its Haste to 30% as a requirement, then Mastery and whatever extra haste you can get.

>>168020598
>until they're nearly full
but you don't have to stack them, you can use them earlier?

>>168020841
I just want to play a good fun interesting MMO or even a good RPG at this point.

WoW is great because it has cool shit like goblins, orcs, and elves and shit. Every other MMO is just human races for the most part.

All online RPG type games are just dead, p2w or bland boring shit.

>every pug group wipes to spellblade then disbands

KILL THE ADS. MOVE OUT WHEN YOU GLOW WHITE. MOVE OUT WHEN YOU GLOW RED. DONT STAND IN THE PURPLE SWIRLS.

Im oversimplying obviously but really though, it's not hard. it looks intimidating in the guide but really you just do some super basic stuff, on normal you can fuck up the ice debuff without too much worry. but then you get people literally standing there with the debuff stacking up and up while they die then typing "?" in chat afterwards.

>>168021131
>sitting there casting switch spec every few dungeons

No thanks

dbm or bigwigs?

>>168021257
God damn this is such a non-issue its unreal

>>168021275
DBM unless your raid / guild is specifically asking for BW.

>>168021257
Switching specs takes negligible amount of time in comparison to time needed to use all AP items.

So did that sithilid problem ever get taken care of or was aq40 he 'end' of it?

>>168017650
Seperate talent for survival, its a sticky bomb now

>>168021257
do it at the end of every day or something you idiot, it takes 5 seconds to switch spec

>>168021326
>wow
>lore

>>168021326
remember all the nerubians that we never took care of in northrend? yeah
insect expansion sometime

>>168021434
>We were too busy fighting the Legion to notice that half the planet is now hollow
>Entire expac is underground in giant-ass caverns with a couple of safe areas being emergency tunnels

spoopy

>doing some old content
>look carefully at raid settings, it's on 25 heroic
>enter
>it randomly changes to non heroic but not always, only some of the raids and even then not always, only sometimes when it feels like it
fucking hell I so annoyed by this

Does everyone use macros in wow, or not really?

>in Neltharion's Lair
>jump off the cliff between the first trash and Rokmora with Path of Frost up
>hold down both mouse buttons so I dive in
>hit the water and die
>run back
>do the same thing
>die again
:thinking:

>>168021646
Absolutely

>>168021646
as dps not really
as healer it's nice to have some

>>168021646
if I had any off GCD abilities that were worth macroing I might, but I don't play a class Blizzard constantly fellates so there's no reason to

>going around atlasloot checking some stuff
>suddenly see ruby sanctum and remember it exists
has there ever been a more forgettable raid?

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>Be a miner
>Kill a 1 Million HP little basilisk
>Mine it
>3 Felslate
>Kill a 16 Million Elite Huge as fuck Infernal
>Mine it
>1 Felslate

>>168021853
"""""""raid""""""""

>>168020954
>It's a DPS doesn't understand how expendable he is episode

There's no fucking way I'm taking shitters when there are too many 890+ in the queue. Goo fucking make friends or join a guild to get geared before whining that people won't take you. It's a fact that the geared get gear, nobody wants to waste time with baddies and gear score is the most reliable retard detector that exists for PUGs.

Is it fair? No, but it's true.

>>168021672
Path of Frost is barely functional in Legion areas.

>>168021890
you presumably hit the 16 million elite more times, so you damaged his exterior and therefore have less usable felslate that you can mine

>>168021853
AQ20, but I'm a shitter who didn't raid until HFC

>it's a boss stays at 1 hp for 3 minutes doing his roleplaying speeches and phase transitions and the only thing you can do is wait episode

>>168020954
Why is your main spec lower than my third alt's ilvl?

>>168021672
how you land depends on the angle of your camera. If it's above your character you go in the water, if it's behind you die

>>168022104
Because I actually have a life unlike you

>>168022303
? I have school, job, and gf

>>168022378
>school

>>168022210
that's what I thought too, but the normal rules of logic don't apply to death knights in Legion

>>168022378
>school

lol

>farming m+ on my windwanker
>no leggos
>do one random BG as mistweaver
>get leggo for mw
>forgot to set loot spec to ww

kill me pls

Is Greymane a bong?

>>168022784
no, he's a worgen

>>168019669
>>168019801
Paladin is the /pol/ class
Druid is the mum class
Priest is the girl class

>>168021646
I use mouseover macros for my heals and utility targeted skills.

>>168021941
imagine being this guy

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>join some random guild on ally alt
>log in today for crown chemical
>just noticed that I can set guild notes at my rank

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am i better off just selling thousands of herbs or just create dozens of flasks in order to make some pocket money for those wow tokens?
pic unrelated

>>168023340
flasks for the procs desu

>tfw Lich King's instakill at 10% doesn't really instakill you anymore
pathetic Arthas, apply yourself harder

>>168023560
Don't bully Arthas. He is a good boy.

>>168023491
>Thousands of flasks
>no rank 3

Would have made more on the mats desu

>>168023607
sounds like you have shit luck

did anyone notice a nerf on the harvested goods shoulder enchant? I only get fish now, or a lot more than before it seems

>>168023656
Sounds like you believe in the fairy tale that is "luck"

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reminder that healsluts and tank bitches are not actually playing any role that has difficulty

>>168023909
>threat equation
>dps worrying about threat in 2017
lel

>>168023909
>tank has 9999% threat
>dps still use an equation for threat
Why are DPS so stupid?

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>It's a "Like the Wind" WQ

>you will never raid old content again
>even if they release timewalking raids it will be shitty LFR style versions of it
I am sad now

>>168023909
>tank with good gear
>ez mode
>tank with bad gear
>blame the healer, eventually get kicked out when people realize its your fault

how do we make tanking great again?

>>168024132
They will bring back vanilla dungeons and raids in a fullblown time walking expansion.

>>168024132
how about we raid your grandma's old pussy if you want old content?

>>168024183
that would be shitty

glad you don't work at blizzard

how come every single guild ever is looking for shadow priests?

>>168024413
Maybe, but they could make a lot of money with low effort. There is no reason for them to not include vanilla dungeons in timewalking, if it hasn't happened yet it is because they plan to do something.

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>>168023909
Fixed.

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:thinking:

shit game

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>>168024597
>18600 AP

>>168024676
Alt

>>168024472
it's because vanilla dungeons scale like shit and a lot of them are not straightforward
imagine if they released a dungeon with multiple paths and backtracking these days

>>168024445
Because they do good DPS and the best guilds stacked them because they don't need a healer to survive 99% of the time. Since the best guilds stacked them everyone else wants them without bothering to understand WHY the best guilds stacked them (It wasn't because of their DPS).

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>guild's not raiding on tuesday like it would usually do
>the reason's because it's valentine's day and normies go out with their gfs/bfs
:(

>>168024736
It most certainly was because of their DPS previously.

>>168024741
>she doesn't have a bf to go out with on valentine's day

Sad!

my realm has 160k alliance and 80k horde according to realmpop

I'm horde

is this bad?

>>168024789
We're not talking about previously though are we faggot?

>>168024802
>she
A-anon, i have a dick

>Getting the itching to play again
>Can't afford game time with gold
>I just know I won't do jack shit after two days if I buy game time
Shit, this game really is an addiction

>>168024813
>Since the best guilds stacked them everyone else wants them without bothering to understand WHY the best guilds stacked them (It wasn't because of their DPS).

Yes, actually.

Learn tenses.

>>168024932
a feminine penis you mean

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with helmet?

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>another day, another 5 hours of ~50 crown company co runs with no mount

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>>168025043
or without?

>>168023909
>calculating dps to meet enrage timer
>calculating threat in 2017
>having that many debuffs on you as a dps
>using multiple rotations against a single enemy instead of your braindead singletarget rotation that passively cleaves anyways

DPS players really are retards if they think not standing in shit and hitting the boss is difficult in any way.

>>168025067
>get the rose
>can't use it for mogs

>>168025113
>>168024013
>>168024032
>>168024178
>>168024486
look at all these butthurt healsluts and their tank masters

ahahahahahahahaha

>>168025156
baited for this EXACT response

>>168025042
6.7 inches are considered feminine?

>>168025375
it's not about the size, it's about the general aesthetics

>>168025375
>6.7

Proofs?

>>168025375
length or girth

>>168025410
There's no such thing as a feminine dick. Dicks are a masculine trait and that doesn't change no matter the size or shape.

Should I make my fembelf monk blonde? Or black-haired? Or a redhead since she is going to have freckles?

How rare are the in game shop 20$ mounts?

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>>168025596

>>168025575
length you dumbass
>>168025557
can't, it's a blue board

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>>168025596

>>168025596
>All dicks are masculine

What are you a faggot? Never seen a feminine dick before? How new

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>>168025840
>>168025693
>>168025643

>>168025928
What about shemales?

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>resubbed tuesday
>got 3 legendaries so far
I can't even use 2 at the same time for another week

>>168025990
If it doesn't have a vagina, it's gay, Anon. There's nothing wrong with being gay or bisexual, but being in denial is unhealthy.

>>168026052
Heh same problem here, got 2 legos, still need 12 days before I can use 2

>>168025643
>>168025693
>>168025840
>faggots in charge of writing "arguments"

>>168026059
you have no idea what you are talking about

the idea of having sex with another man disgusts me but I've fapped to traps before

>>168026248
A man pretending to be a woman is still a man anon. It's time to accept you're gay.

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>>168026113
>legos

>>168026248
Shades of grey, Anon. You might not like straight up dudes, but a feminine man with a penis is still a man. It's fine to say you're straight, but don't forget you like feminine penises too which makes you bisexual. See you at pride, homo.

>tfw for the longest time you thought mimiron drops the mount but it's actually yogg
on a scale of 1 to 10, I feel 11 retarded

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>tfw I have to wait for all of them to log out before I /gquit

>>168026495
do you also wait to quit a job you don't like until everyone has quit before you?
oh wait
>4chan
>job

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>tfw big dick dps in game AND irl

>>168026495
you literally don't tho

>>168026495
Pussy.

>>167994770
>>168007683
>beat the legion and sargeras
>Echo of Sargeras says: In all possible futures I scryed, I did not foresee one in which you were victorious. I wonder...
>Echo of Sargeras says: Will you defeat the Void Gods? Will you fail? Time eddies about you fits and starts. Nothing is certain!
>ally with the legion against void shits
>sargerei warlocks have joined the fray

DOES Xavius shoulders drops on any difficult??????????

How important is CoF for the BoS Frost DK build?

>>168026585
give me the link for the irl dps counter

>>168026603
what if I /gquit and then one of them whispers me

or they start talking about me in discord

Will we become corrupted and make corrupted children after we beat the avatar of sargeras?

>>168026651
dont gquit without saying anything you antisocial fuck
just thank them for having you (or not depending on how they treated you) and tell them you're moving on

>>168021105
meme-spec (aoe/mobile build):
lone wolf
LnL
explosive shot
volley
piercing shot

single target/immobile/dps check build:
same shit but drop explosive shot for patient sniper and maybe run trick shot

>>168026651
who the fuck cares lmao no one will even notice

are you really that much of a bitch that youre terrified of a whisper that probably wont even happen? dump em and move on pussy

>>168026627
in my experience, CoF means you'll be getting your breaths out 30+ seconds sooner. I never did the math on how much of a DPS increase it is, but it's noticable

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>>168026760
Almost what I had, might tweak it a bit. But being a Blood Elf Hunter with the Windrunner bow and trailblazer makes one run like a crazy ostrich.

Might try the one out you said.

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>Open Bloodhunter's Quarry
>1 Blood of Sargeras

It seems you two share a kinship. An ally is an ally... no matter how small!

>sim frost mage
>says i could do 380k single target without bloodlust or pots or flasks or the talent that extends icy veins

this is 100% not the case and im trying to figure out why. on fire or something i'd say okay im bad but frost with this build literally does not have anything you could majorly fuck up to lose such a high amount of dps. the only thing that could go wrong is if you overcap fingers of frost or fuck up spending them.

is it because its an average? so some sims you get godlike rng and theyre doing like 500k but some get garbage rng and do like 300k so the average is between them? it's the only thing i can think of.

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Discipline or Holy for a spriest who just hit 110 and just wants to grind out gear/ques as fast as possible?

>>168027279
discipline if doing WQs
holy for dungeons I guess, it's more intuitive than disc

>rogue sewers literally has a plank you can walk

>>168027382
>le walk the plank xD
>dae lsiten to alestorm?! xdd
>pew pew *shoots at you*

>>168027279
holy is generally comparable in damage if not better because of holy nova and is better at tank healing

disc only really gets to do damage when aoe healing or when the tank is really good (they probably wont be in random queues)

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>>168027382
Why is every single shitter rogue cuck a fucking outmeme le pirate roughe ebin eyepatch yarrrr me hearties bones-rolling SHIT???? EVERY SINGLE ONE. Dont see any other rogues, just fucking LE EBIG POIRATE ARRRRRRR. Im so FUCKING SICK OF THEM. EVERYWHERE I GO. fucking outmemes and their saber slashes making that shink sound. and the fucking dice popping all over the place so they can get their meme buffs. and then suddenly LE PISTOL SHOT FROM 1000 YARDS AWAY LOL STUNNED FOREVER EBIN!!!!! LE PISTOLERO!!!!!! ARRRRRRR I BE A PIRATE!!!!!! RUN YE SCURVY DOGS THROUGH FOR HALF YE HEALTH POOL YARRRRRRR grappling hooks behind you NOTHING PERSONNELL YE LANDLUBBER. Are rogues just in such a shit place that no one plays subtelty or assassination so they're forced into THE LITERAL REDDIT SPEC? Is outmeme doing more dps than the other specs? or is it just the YO HO HO AND A BOTTLE OF LE RUM YAR HAR FIDDLE DEE DEE I ARE A PIRATE SWAB LE POOPDECK MATIES UPBOATS ON THE PORTSIDE BATTEN LE HATCHES XDD XD appeal to all the LITERAL and ACTUAL memeing shitters and drooling retards who fucking think ARRR LE PIRATE YARR HAR LE SHARKS IN LE WATER LE SCURVY JOLLY ROGER ARRRR THE SEAS BE CHOPPY I AM LE FLYING DUTCHMAN!!!!11 fucking kill yourselves.

Why do people defend the M+ system?
It caters to specific specs.
Its endless grinding.
Its not fulfilling.

>>168027573
alREADY a stale meme

and stop using my gay husbando for picture

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>>168027256
>is it because its an average?

It's not an average, it's a median. Look for this panel, it shows your variance. Some specs have stats that increase margin of error. For example, a Havoc Demon Hunter will underperform in the hands of a human player at low crit levels, because a human player will keep mashing a button without enough Fury before they can process that they need to hit their Felblade.

You should be performing close to your Sim as Frost though because Frost is dead easy. You're most likely not using your pet correctly.

>>168027567
>disc only really gets to do damage when aoe healing or when the tank is really good (they probably wont be in random queues)
>tfw a blood DK and a disc priest get matched together in random heroics and the dungeon gets shit stomped because the party basically has 4 DPS

>>168027692
t. ebin pistolero rogue

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>>168027742
I don't even play my femorc rogue. I would never put her in harms way :3

>>168027696
im simming it with lonely winter though thats what I don't get. like i have the talents and shit set up so basically the only "mechanics" you could fuck up are accidentally not spending/overcapping fingers, just for the testing purposes.

i have shard of the exodar though and i swear thats making it use bloodlust even when it shouldnt.

>>168027781
nice meme transmog meme rogue

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>>168028034
>le meme meme meme meme
It's time for some self-reflection, anon.

>>168027890
Well there's your problem. Why would you sim without BL as a mage anyway? You ALWAYS have it. Stop using absurd parameters if you want to get accurate results.

>>168028130
Because I accidentally did it with BL disabled at first and I was confused why it was showing numbers that are clearly not possible.

I checked in the logs though and yeah it does use it even if you disable bloodlust. Everything looks a lot more reasonable now.

>>168028106
MEME
TRANSMOG

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>"Going for a Fast Run"
>Join the Group
>Everyone is below 2m hp

Someone here posted a site that analyzed your logs and told you what you did wrong, anyone knows the name?

>>168028286
>Going for a fast wipe

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>>168028286
>Make a "quick run" group.
>Everyone is over 890 except the healer me desu
>It's only mythic assault on violet hold.

>>168028407
I know what you did wrong
you didn't kill yourself yet

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>tfw no gf OR raid group to spend Valentine's day with

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>Mage to do the 'Main Quest(s)

>Warlock for PvP since I invested so much time during WoD into him and if I PvP enough I get some of my abilities back making him not quite as awful to play

What class should I do for maximum comfort/fun to do a vanilla->current total playthrough?

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>make "chill" group

Is blood DK any good in PvP

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>>168028836
>make a 'shill' group but then pizzagate is real

>>168028836
>Frost Mage
>Frost Knight
>Resto Shaman

You could get another Knight or Mage for DPS, but I think you're stuck for a tank, mate.

>>168028881
it is when you're doing world PvP at 885 ilvl
I'm pretty sure it's bad in queued shit though

>>168028881
I don't even use it for 500 honor world quests. Bear on other hand.

>>168028939
blood DK spamming IBF on cooldown is the closest you could get

rip BoS on all specs

>progressing mythic botanist
>2 of our 3 tanks couldn't come
>one DH switches to tank offspec, 900 ilvl weapon at artifact level 33, with dps trinkets, dps legendaries, and dps stat weights
>doesn't die a single time before wipe

So this is the difficulty of the hardest role...

>not raiding at least EN HC with 6+ chars
>not doing emissary + tradeskill wqs on 12+ chars
>not running 2-3 gold missions on 12+ chars/day
>not racking in 400k/month just from this

Dont even reply to this post, you filthy casuals

>>168029031
>>168029068
nigga I ain't gonna read all that

>>168017461
So, I just finished getting my 54th trait for my MS, should I continue to stock up AP on this weapon for 7.2, or can I start leveling up my OS weapon?

>>168029068
nigger even if you're a NEET and literally don't sleep there's no way you can accomplish all

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I want to play a melee character. DK or DH, /wowvg/?

>>168029245
death knight if you want to DPS, DH if you want to tank

>>168029031
I mean the best tank leggos are literally like 4% less damage taken tops, and legit nobody uses tank trinkets (stat sticks at most) because other than the arcway one, they're real mediocre

that said though, if your tanks aren't good, M is probably like the 7th or 6th hardest boss in mythic and they can sometimes make fights so much harder you need an extra healer solely for keeping them up

>>168029245
play something that isn't edgy and bad instead

>>168029318
err meant to say M skorp is like the 6th or 7th hardest boss in mythic*

>>168029367
>tfw all melee classes are edgy except for warrior and paladin

>>168029245
i tip my fedora to you fellow edgelord

>>168029014
~ Class Fantasy ~

>>168026495
Same situation here. I think I'll log on at like 4 AM just to do this.
>only joined because a friend (who's no longer part of the guild) invited me, but never talked in gchat or do anything with my guildmates so nobody even knows me and nobody would notice I'm gone
>yet I am still scared of this
I'm a little bitch.

>>168029318
>and legit nobody uses tank trinkets (stat sticks at most) because other than the arcway one, they're real mediocre
this. All the tank trinkets are just shit that was pruned from classes because Blizzard didn't want to balance

>>168029229

>12 emissaries take 3 hours/day tops
>NH HC takes 4-5 hours if you do 8/10 in curve groups or 10 hours if you do 10/10

You could even run M+15 on several chars on top of that

>>168029245
Dks are better in every way but mechanically.

Dhs are fun and won't get repeatedly nerfed. this expac

Is Arms playable yet or is it still Focused Rage central?

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> tfw you want to main a Paladin but he moves so slowly compared to DH or Shaman

Why must the servant of Light suffer?

why can't I make a gnome demon hunter

>>168020351
Make your own groups

>>168029517
>all the trinkets, honour talents and legendary effects are just shit that was pruned from classes because Blizzard didn't want to balance

Ftfy

>>168029650
I still don't understand that armour.

>>168029751
>tfw there's some shit that got pruned that never came back as anything because Blizzard hates the classes they belonged to
rip every death grip glyph and regenerative magic

>ilevel too high to get upgrades from non-nighthold raidfinder

>ilevel too low to get into mythics/pugs

WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO NOW

>>168029650
Could be worse. You could play a Death Knight or Priest

>>168029961
join a guild ;^)

>>168029938
I still hate that they don't even try to be subtle about their hate outside of very rare posts/tweets/announcements saying that 'we're happy with where [x] is right now'.

>>168024694
>having alts

>>168030019
>tfw play both death knight AND priest

we're not that b-bad, are we?

>>168029938
>rip every death grip glyph

https://youtu.be/mluM6ovwc2g?t=210

Death Grip is getting a graphical rework in 7.2.

>>168030193
...Yes?

>>168030183
>if we really hated [a class] we'd just delete them from the game
>*nerfs blood in 7.0, 7.1, 7.1.5 and random hotfixes in between despite them being mediocre tanks and now the worst in the game*
what DID Ion mean by this?

>>168030275
who gives a single fuck when they took out a bunch of utility features that should be baseline like not incurring a cooldown on immune targets and reseting the cooldown on kills

>>168030380
>what DID Ion mean by this?
Blood is getting deleted in 8.0

>>168030380
>dk this mad that he's not the pet class anymore

>>168030462
>implying suffering forever isn't our class fantasy

>>168030563
>Blizzard employee defending his pointless and petty bias

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>>168030275
>new ghoul
>99% of unholy dks use sludge belcher

>>168030675
Abominations are getting a higher res model too retard.

How much AO should a WQ reward to make it worth it rather than to farm mos+?

I'm about to transfer a char for the first time, is there anything I should do first?

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>>168030675
what did he mean by this

>>168030836
>that tiny cleaver
kek

>>168030743
>>168030836
Huh.

Well, neat.

>>168030228
Just slow and clunky

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>those datamined LK voice overs in 7.2
EBON PRIDE WORLD WIDE
GAS THE LIVING, 5TH WAR NOW

>Unholy is cook looking but does nodamage
>Frost is meh looking but is one of the best dps in the game

Wake me up

>>168031289
What was the 4th war? WOTLK?

>>168031346
The Shattering-Siege of Orgrimmar

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>>168031289
Did you think we had forgotten?

Did you think we had forgiven?

>>168031330
literally everything except the theme of unholy is complete ass. It feels like shit to play and is just random things Blizzard thought were neat thrown into a retarded stew

>>168031512
You take that back, nigga.

Unholy is fun.

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>>168031419
>forced to side against your warchief

>>168031512
The only retarded stew here is you if you ACTUALLY believe that the theme of Unholy is complete ass

>>168031684
well, I said "everything except the theme" so no

>>168031596
>playing unholy any expansion
seek help

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for demo, if I have a free dreadstalker proc and have 4 shards as it falls off

what should I do?
dreads-empower-hand-empower?
hand-dreads-empower?
hand-empower-dreads-empower? (I'm really certain this is wrong)

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When is the sequel to wow coming out?

>>168031947
at 4 shards you should reroll a different class

Addie Fizzlebog is cute! CUTE!

>>168031947
Don't play demo, duh. This isn't Sep "We are at 21 traits" tember anymore.

>>168020309
you can't change specs in m+
why even try to make up a lie like this, it's not even that impressive
HoV is actually easy to beat the timer and +11 is a fucking joke at this point

>guild leader wants us to progress mythic helya now only so we get a better wowprogress rank
fml

>>168031953
When we reclaim Argus, teleport the whole planet affer Azeroth awakens to leave us homeless, teleport to another star system, and begin the WarcraftxStarcraft mmo

>>168032421
It should die in 10 pulls to a 54 trait raid after all the nerfs

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Why are all DPS boys so cute?!

anyone else here play casually? I only have 110 and hav'ent even gotted my 5% damage trait yet ROFL

>>168032723
only a retard would pay a monthly subscription to this casually when you have diablo 3 available

or, you know, actually good games

>>168032723
my alts have 35 just doing an emissary box daily

>>168032712
>70% of the playerbase is cute

I highly doubt it.

>>168032712
because you have no standards, as evidenced by your retarded weebshit

>>168031289
>Slay them! Raise them in the name of the Lich King!

REMOVE VRYKUL

>join a bunch of germans on a em hc speedrun
>they don't summon
>they start nyth trash
>they pull the boss just before I arrive at the raid entrance
h e l l o ?

>>168031289
>Bolvar is a legit edgelord now

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>>168032880
As their mother and healer, I can assure they are the cutest boys ever. I'm addicted to patting and hugging cute DPS boys
>>168033015
How rude. Don't talk to me or my cute children ever again.

>leave nighthold lfr after every boss
>get loot from every one of them

>>168033219
Don't forget daddy tank though ;)

>unlock 2nd legendary order hall research
>open kirin tor cache right after
>get legendary
Hehe

>>168031947
don't listen to the memers

if you have free doggos you should always cast doggos first since it has a higher prio

BUT

there's the special case where you have 4 or 5 shards, free doggos and doggos are about to come off CD. then you can use hand and doggos immediately after (without wasting doggo uptime), then buff them all at once before imps first cast goes off. you should aim for this overlap as often as possible by using your extra fifth shard as flexibility to wait for doggo CD if possible.

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>on rp server
>be demon hunter
>other demon hunter comes to rp
>they have no fucking clue about demon hunter lore.
>mfw

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>tfw never lucky
>tfw i'll never get my based hidden appearance

>>168033446
AYO BBY U WANT SUM FUCK?

>>168033446

Hey baby you feeling "horny" tonight? LOL

>>168033446
My name is illidaan, the bastard child of illidan and thrall, i am imbued with the secret power of mary sue and will hunt demons to the end of the world haha xD

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>>168033535
>>168033584
he first ask me how i can see with a blindfold then wanted to seduce me with getting some drinks.
>>168033709
this jokes are so old but i still fucking love them

>>168033513
i have it and i don't even play unholy
get good

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>>168033320
But of course. I just wish daddy tank would be a bit easier on our cute children sometimes.

>>168033765
How do you see with blindfold, is it like matrix?

why is lfr so fuckin borderline retarded and killing the trash mob that spawns instead of dpsing the boss with your back

>>168033865
Demon hunters can see due to their eye gouging thingy and the blindfold is only used to not make everyone see the destroyed eye holes.

>>168033946
if lfr people weren't retarded they'd be raiding for real

>>168033865
they burn their eyes out and see with fel magic

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>emerald dream
>a reflection of the world in it's PRIMAL state
>primal, not primitive
>a reflection of the world when the Titans created it
>has Thunderbluff in it for some reason

Taurens: Titan-forged warrior race created to protect the wilds of Azeroth?

Or just yet another example of Blizzard being fucking retarded and not knowing their own lore?

>>168033832
>don't even play unholy
>can only get it by playing unholy

???

>>168034367
i think blizzard answered this before and just said some bullshit about it being elerenthe's personal nightmare or some shit

>>168034367
Azeroth didn't start when TItans came about, duh.

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Mogggg