XCOM General - /xcg/

Bagel is useless.

AYY

lw2 is bad

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I've taken some to update the /xcg/ ablum, now with 900+ images.
Take some time to check it out if you haven't yet, or browse through the front to see the new stuff. Last time I posted there was only about 750 some images, so a lot got added this time around.
http://imgur.com/a/S1qfx
>http://imgur.com/a/S1qfx
http://imgur.com/a/S1qfx

pistols are useful

>>167980584
But swords sure as hell aren't.

Are there UFO missions in LW2? I never got any in vanilla because of their magnificence

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chryssalid Broodqueen when?

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>>167980475

Good Job.

>>167980050
I realized I forgot to add the album link for the LW2 squad icons to the pastebin. Doesn't someone have it? I didn't save it.

Also the general pastebin might need an LW2 section now.

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>>167980618

OVER THE LINE

>>167980651
Full ports FUCKING WHEN?

lw2 is actually bad

any sign of an expansion?

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>>167980290

Beagle Activity by the way... Just not XCOM activity.

The heck did the do with those training drones? Did they always scream like that?

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>>167980475
>a couple of my screenshots made it in

>>167980475
Trying to load this crashed my browser

>>167981937
Yes.
https://steamdb.info/app/268500/dlc/

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>>167980475
>some of my pics and OC made it

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Wakaliwood voice mod when

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEoGrbKAyKE

>>167982307
>about 10hours ago
noice

please firaxis dont implement any of the inflitration mechanics and let me destroy shit with nades

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>>167980050
>No Magia

WTF OP

Thats literally the most badass music for a mahou-shoujo, and works best for XCOM!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwquipMpsiQ

>>167980050
Just finished first HQ assault
Standard armor, mag weapons (except for 3 smgs)
ADVENT STRENGHT 7
Went pretty well, I just didn't get what the fuck was that awkward dude with 50 hp
I destroyed him and his little stupid pod in a single turn

>>167980848
RITE NOW NIGGHA
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=842090147

>>167983362
> I just didn't get what the fuck was that awkward dude with 50 hp. I destroyed him and his little stupid pod in a single turn
DUDE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SUBDUE HIM

>Shinobi
>ADVENT with monocles
When did it all go so wrong?

>>167983525
I'm assuming this is not true and even if it were I just loved to smash a baseball bat on his fancy monocle

My enemies stopped working. They legit do nothing on their turns, send help. Do I need to reload to before it started happening?

>>167983543
I thought it was hilarious the first time I saw it.

>>167983808
Just wnjoy it while it lasts dude

>>167983920
It started the last round of my last mission and I'm breezing through the next b/c of it. Is this a known bug that'll stop or do I have some fixing to do?

>>167983808
>>167984005
Just restart the game.

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Still hoping someone would pick up the Dr. Vahlen in an xcom virgin killer sweater.

Well. If we had any drawfriends.

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>>167980475
>http://imgur.com/a/S1qfx
whats going on here?

>>167984005
It's a bug that occasionally happens when the pod leader is killed.

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This brings back memories.

Wish we got proper monster girls though.

>>167984930
What exactly is a virgin killer? A backless sweater.

>>167985019
Collaborators are being removed duh

why is lw so shit and why does it try to be its own game
fucking frustrating peace of shit GIME ME BACK MY NADES AND HIGHT BONUS I DONT LIKE YOUR SHIT GUNFIGHTS ALPHASTRIKE EVERYTHING FUCK RNG REEEEEE

>>167985564
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/clothes-that-kill-virgins

>>167986025
That's not too hard to draw.

I'll consider it

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>>167986095
But it will be Vahlen in the sweater, right?

Also pic related for a bit more reference.

>>167986285
depends on how well it turns out

I'm not very good with drawing knit clothing

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>>167986453
Just try your best.

Also, here's one more rough reference. Vahlen could have been wearing it the whole time, and we never knew.

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>>167981950
>It's another Beagle streaming with Jamball episode on Friday night
When will this episode stop being rerun

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>will to survive AND formidable on a civvie
>still only 1 hp

good effort lad

>>167988060

Wait, what kind of mission is this? I haven't seen a wilderness VIP mission before

So xcom1 had the mechanic where blowing up shit on ufo's reduced the amount of stuff you recovered from them.

I never cared about this in xcom2 but I'm doing some train supply raids in LW2 and I'm noticing that every ayy is standing next an explosive barrel.

If I know the explosion won't kill them and ruin their corpsey goodness is there any reason not to blow these trains to kingdom come? Like supply reduction or something?

>>167988365
Look at the top left. It's a haven hold and extract operation.

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What the fuck is going on with my rebels

>>167988365
It's a retaliation mission in Long Dong 2, you have to manually command every civilian over to the evac zone

>>167988446
Supply trains actually have the supplies on them. Don't blow those up.

>>167988493
Rebels can have melee without weapons. They can still deal damage too, but I think they only get the damage from how much distance they cover, they don't get the base damage of a sword.

>>167988446
Generally those things are sitting next to the shiny glowy supply crates that determine how much shit you'll get, same applies for blowing up the trucks in convoy maps. Blow the truck up the goods usually go with it

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>>167988581
No animation for it though, at least outside of those missions where they temporarily turn into real soldiers.

27% too, that was a real letdown

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>>167988581
>>167988645
I never worry about the supplies and neither should you guys. An efficiently and stylishly ghosted ayy is its own reward, even better if his friends are gathered around.

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>>167983362
>I just didn't get what the fuck was that awkward dude with 50 hp

>>167988581
>>167988645

Thanks

>>167990240
>LW2
>Not being eternally anally anguished for supplies

Bitch I can't even afford guns for half my troops, sergeant "Ho Dragon" (this was his actual randomized name) is gonna have to take the flank shot this time.

>when you realize LW2 will literally never be good because the magnificent faggot will never admit his infiltration concept was terrible from the start

>>167990658
The infiltration mechanic is the good part though.

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Anybody have any experience or ideas regarding playing LW2 lategame with 0% infiltration? I've made it to the late midgame and finally am being beat by just how fucking many aliens there are. My entire strategy up until this point had been Technicals/Rangers to salvo everything that moves and then Light Em Up to clear them out but it doesn't matter how many I can spread out because I can never wipe out enough targets instead of leaving them with 1 or 2 HP left. As their aim values get higher and higher flashbangs are doing less and I can't trade or count on misses.

Any ideas?

>>167990658

Infiltration is fun, it's just trying to make the actual missions about stealth is where it falls apart

>>167990658
Infiltration is better than fatigue imo, however it needs to be more granular because at this point the impact on force strength is marginal.

>>167990814

The mission expiration timer should go down at double the speed once infiltration hits 100%

>1.2 patch notes
>hail of bullets now requires 5 ammo
So are we back to the old LW1 balance philosophy of gimp everything that is effective rather than strengthening the weaker choice? Suppression is way too unreliable/buggy right now.

>>167991239

where is this

>>167991297
http://www.pavonisinteractive.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=23951

>>167991239
>As a balance tester for the game, if I found anything that worked to beat it, I told the game designers and they made it so it didn't work anymore. -JoINrbs

>>167991239
Also suppression is buggy, but I wouldn't call it weak. Area suppression is still extremely.
But they should not be nerfing xcom's combat ability when most people believe that avoiding engagements is already the best way to play.

Man, I played the original Xcom UFO Defence and Terror From The Depths to hell and back as a kid, and only recently I had the chance to play the newer Xcom games for a decent amount of time.

This feels weird. The games arent BAD, but they just dont feel like the game I used to play as a kid at all, it's all radically different. What should I do?

>>167991436
I totally agree with toning down things that work too well. LW has always understood this at least more than Firaxis. However it's so frustrating that they always leave shitty things shitty. Also I can't stand that faggot and the fact that they do balance of the entire mod on the opinion of the highest tier of xcom autists.

>tactical combat game
>nerf things that actually make tactical combat doable
>encourage avoiding tactical combat

good job good effort

>>167991239
Tbh what good does hail of bullets even do for gunners? They should already be high aim enough for a solid chance on most shots and having them suppress 4-12 guys is the goal anyway.

>>167991583
Have you played x-com at all recently?
Regardless, they are very different games. If you are going to only try and measure it up to some old nostalgia feeling then they will fall short, but I enjoy both quite a bit. Just keep playing while keeping in mind they aren't supposed to be the same. If you can't enjoy it than it's whatever, no need to feel like you should be enjoying it.

>>167992012
>how good is guaranteed to hit anyway in a game of rng and chance?
Hmmm...

>>167992012
Guarantees are an exceptionally rare commodity. Plus, given higher base damage of gunner's weapon plus center mass which you should be picking up, and you often have a free kill button for dangerous enemies.

>>167991568
Yeah I agree with you, suppression is still a very good utility but more importantly this will continue to disincentivize combat. And while stealthing around certainly can be fun I'm personally not the biggest fan of it in an xcom game.

>>167991975
Yeah I don't get it.

>>167992093
>blow half your ammo guarantee hitting one ayy

vs.

>blow half your ammo to drop a fat deuce on any shooters and ability users in a million tile radius

There are better class options for single target removal, just bring one of those and use it well.

>>167991436
surely you jest? this is not a real quote?

>>167990441
>we want the le reddit xD meme audience

Lump belongs in a death camp.

>>167992416
Sometimes it's time to suppress. Sometimes it's killing time. Not every enemy can't be properly locked down by suppression. I often take multiple gunners, and flashbangs fill the same role as well.

>>167992418
https://youtu.be/wXkSMvHv3XM

>>167992418
Why would you think it's not real? Long War has always been Artificial Difficulty the mod, but with 30% legitimately good ideas in it.

>>167992780
LW's difficulty and nerfing of alphastrike tactics would be fine if they could figure out the magic way to somehow make injured soldiers not be a lose-more penalty. It seems like they tried to mitigate this with free bonus armor and more armor upgrades through the game, but that shit's too expensive and it's still unreliable compared to spending all your dosh on kill-faster tactics.

I mean even the first armor costs 50 supplies??? Fuck that I'd rather toss sniper rifles on rookie AWC trainees and do some extra missions.

>>167993161
Correction 30 supplies and 5 alloys. Honestly the alloys are worse in early game, since they really compete with weapons.

>>167993161
One problem I think is that individual soldiers are really valuable, certainly more than in LW1. No fatigue means you don't need X copies of the same build, infiltration mechanics let you cycle in your best dudes way more, AWC perks are an additional investment, squad bonuses for missions with an officer, etc...Still the ultimate difference between new and old com, where everyone was expendable.

>>167993570
Well you can buy replacements pretty cheap and reliably from the black market, so the can really help with your roster
If you ever had any supplies

>>167993830
>>167993570

Personally I like the squad bonuses making individual soldiers more important. I just think there needs to be a mechanic that someone can invest in that, even on-paper, looks as good as alphastrike strats. And no, this does not translate into "better medkit heals" or something abusable like "medkit heals remove injury time." I can see what they were trying to do with armor upgrades but it just isn't cutting it imo.

Also other tactical changes have really made things narrowers in the tactical department. Good luck getting in a firefight that lasts longer than one turn when every explosive you use pulls every squad running at you from every corner of the map. The whole tower assault mission is basically "hope you trained lots of assaults and shinobis: the mission"

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Is it worth it? I really want those supplies so I can get my squads lasers, but I haven't had a mission over light yet.

>>167995061
Its worth it.

No time limit so you can be tacticool in an entrenched spot and eliminate the enemies as they come to you.

>>167995061
Did you put a full squad on it? Heavy isn't that bad on an untimed mission with full combat squad if you get positioned well before engaging.

>>167995218
>eliminate the enemies as they come to you
You mean, as they ALL come to you at once from every angle.

Fucking memers. Never again.

>>167995436
I dunno bro when I did a similar mission I just put the edge of the map to my back at a good position and outgunned the Aliens over a long battle.

>>167995436
>he didn't read the terrain

I'm guessing you're the thread's sour grapes badposter who badmouths lw2 at every opportunity too

>>167995565
I have been loving LW2, actually. It's just that stealth missions seem to be the only ones I can reasonably succeed at on Legendary. I don't know why I'm doing this to myself.

>>167994417
>Good luck getting in a firefight that lasts longer than one turn
Between suppression, flashbangs, and heavy cover I find my fire fights last a lot of turns.

>>167995734
>on Legendary
>I don't know why I'm doing this to myself.
You said it. Why are you doing that to yourself?

>>167995734
Senpai no shame in turning it down especially for long war. Have you even tried commander?

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>>167981726
>>167985505

The game needs more Full Body change mods.

>>167995852
>>167995853
I have tried Commander. The difficulty isn't the problem, I am. All a lower difficulty is going to do to me is breed bad habits that will get my shit pushed in harder when I try them on Legendary.

I am going to purge this weakness from myself. I must.

Are there any mods that add the voices from EU to 2?

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>tfw just lost another l/i run in the early game

I thought that I could've held the evac from a retaliation of my home region from a building 1-2 blue moves away.

Every single contact was north of the evac and now that area is filled to the brim with bogeys

Can't win an l/i campaign losing all my goddamn home region's contacts this early and most of my a team and half my b team...

>>167996337
>3 (three) overwatch icons

>>167995753
Out of curiosity do you play with True Concealment?

I don't and on anything with a timer I'm feeling pressured to stick with 1 and 2 turn kills. Yea my flashbangs get used a lot but really it's only when an ayy takes a ridiculously far back cover that I can't even approach without triggering more pods.

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>no map preview

wat

>>167996337
Bro where is your shinobi scout?

>>167996627
It is the furies map, the winter landed ufo

>>167996224
Lol, alright, go for it pal. Whatever makes you cum, right?

>>167996224
>I refuse to have fun
No anon, this isn't the path

>>167996623
I was talking about missions that allow firefights and have a lot of contacts.

>>167996902
Oh...well it is December.

>Month 1 random event for free Advent Mech.
>Only days later get the haven mission.
>The Mech mows down the faceless, the officer and all the troopers practically on it's own.
When can I start getting more of these besides from events, and how many can I stack in a haven?

>>167997283
I'm salty that I haven't gotten one of these, it's mid august and I've done so many 'find a lead' missions and have yet to see it. Can you choose which haven it goes to or does it go to the nearest/random?

>>167996337
a reinforcement pod appeared east of the evac that flanked and then revealed my scout when they scampered.

>>167997665
I don't have a clue, I only have the one haven, and I haven't been able to get another since.

>>167997675
>>167996815

>>167996491
Overwatch All is a pretty nifty mod my man

Do swords become useful with the mods for 100% sword accuracy and hunter's instinct on swords?

>>167997958
the 100% accuracy is alright I guess, gives you a reason to use them over shotguns at point-blank.

However guaranteed +3 damage is cheating

>>167998353
nothing is cheating if it helps remove the ayy menace

>>167997958

If vanilla, a better mod for the tier 3 sword also helps.

god damn it why did I decide to fuck with stupid mods in the middle of a campaign

I guess I'll restart because the constant crashing from the mod conflict is annoying

>>167988581
That's actually a bug. Will be patched out for 1.2.

Is it even worth attempting a mission that you anticipate combat without a grenadier? Maybe if I could bring 20 flashbangs and swords.

https://steamdb.info/app/268500/dlc/

Looks like whatever remains to be released for X2 got updated about 14 hours ago

>>167996102
There are swimsuits if you know where to look

>>168001470
we just have to wait till pax east

I'm curious. Almost a year on, does ANYONE have this game not perform like trash?

Even on absolute minimal settings, i7 2700K, 16GB RAM and a GTX 1060 6GB, it will consistently be around 20 FPS on certain missions like base assaults, and still suffer heavy drops on other normal missions. It makes no sense.

>>168001470
>https://steamdb.info/app/268500/dlc/
if it really is an expansion, shows how good of an idea it was to release LW2 to draw interest back into the game again.

>>168002156
Sounds more like a problem on your end, I run on an i5 and a GTX760 on a mix of med/low settings and get 60fps a vast majority of the time. Do you have a bunch of mods installed?

>>168002156
I have it maxed out with a 980, 16GB of RAM and an i5-4690k with consistent frames except when I do something like collapse a building

Even with my last card I never got that abysmal of a framerate. I have no idea why that is happening.

for reference the most framekilling settings I know of are
>MSAA
>SSAO
>Depth of Field
>Screen Space Reflections

>>168002156
The only time I have issues is when the skyranger returns from a mission, and loading times on LW2 are pretty lengthy. Other than that though, I get smooth framerate with maxed out graphics.

>>168002156
I have a 1050ti 16gb and a nine year old amd cpu. I run the thing at 50-60 with ao and dof to the second option and shadows to medium and no AA. Also have the reshade thing up.

Just finished XCOM2 vanilla, I also did it with XCOM1 vanilla.
Never played any long war, should I play LW1 first or go straight into LW2? I heard LW1 is more polished and LW2 is still in development.

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sleep tight advent

>lib 3
>neutralize enemy VIP
>2 days to infiltrate or gtfo
>send in the koreans
>shinobi sniper combo sneaky sneakys all the way to extraction and sets up
>one shot, one kill
>fuck off without a trace
>MISSION FAILED
>have to wait for the avenger to load before I can reload this bullshit

>>168003989

>"Look, a crack!"

>>168003762
Yeah I would probably go for LW1, but its up to you.

>>168004275
its a pretty good crack i must admit

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>started out this mission literally inside a fire

Bravo.

>>168005783
I had the same thing happen

it was magnificent

why is lw2 so bad bros

>>168006054
because it's not balanced yet

I really fucking wish people would make more substantive posts than this.

How do you customize the starting rookie uniforms in EW?

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>5x heavy floater pods on every mission

ok

>>168006054
>hey what if we make a Mod that is really hard but fair
>but then don't actually include anything to make it fair while removing any tactic that lets you win

So, what exactly are those prostitution mods on loverslab supposed to be? I'm guessing text-only?

Is Metal over Flesh compatible with LW2?

>>168007262

tl;dr you send your soldier off to prostitute themselves for 1-3 days, they come back with resources and a single kill

>>168007470
I saw your mistake, anon.
Flesh over Steel would make a good name for a mod that converts SPARKs into EW MECs.
Also, the answer seems to be yes, according to this;
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e7YrjDSl95Hmt1ZPSlsBStvQk95uLX_KcmWS4OoDBak/edit

>>168006972
>hey you know flying enemies have gucci aim, range and dodge
>they can also use cover and jump behind you

I swear flying pods where the scariest shit in lw1

Are those non-gameplay changing mods in the pastebin compatible with LW2?

>>168007801

>It's just a SPARK with a decapitated human head stapled onto the torso

>>168008093
That sounds like ADVENT's countermeasure to the Reprogrammed ADVENT MECs you put in havens. Now THAT's a terror mission.

>Haven't played Xcom 2 since a month or so after release
>Have a pirated version

Are the mods from steam worth purchasing the game? How good is the dlc? How do I even access dlc?

>>168008381
>Are the mods from steam worth purchasing the game?
Yes. Though you can get them without steam, but it ain't easy and can be frustrating.

>>168008162

Honestly it would have been pretty cool if Archons were replaced by EU-esque floaters during retaliation missions

>>168008381
>How good is the dlc? How do I even access dlc?

The DLC are basically mission packs to get us by until the expansion pack comes out, but they're pretty cool. They both add new mechanics to gameplay along with a slew of new items.

You can choose to activate the story elements before you start a game, otherwise you'll just have the new content available via research/whatever.

Do you need to kill all the Turrets to clear a base? Or is there a pack hidden away that I need to slay?

how do you use early game snipers in EW?

Do you just leave them to hang back while your conga line moves forward? Because whenever I try to get high ground my guys already kill all the ayys before she can even start shooting. Or there's an over watch trap and she can't get into position to shoot, OR she activates a pod getting to a vantage point.

>>168008620
If you haven't activated a turret, you don't need to kill it to for missions completion.

>>168008671
I just try and keep them close to score some pistol and grenade skills to get them too squadsight. After that they are just fine if you position well. No need to conga if you set them up with good los.

>>168008864
Well, fuck. That means my assault is gonna bleed out b/c there's a pack somewhere on the massive ass map that refuses to show itself.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=861432746

it's back

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>>167987943

I wish it just ended already.

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>>168001525

The bikinis are only a part of it.

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>tfw it takes 7 rookies to kill one zombie

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no ayys

>>168010187
>Chaos in downtown as XCOM terrorists attack another local shopping district
>Shocking scenes of Advent and Alien Peacekeepers murder in cold blood in what has been dubbed the worst attack since the last one

What if XCOM 3 had Pistol Shrimp aliens?

>>168010865
rip more rookies

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>>168009842

Bow and Arrow mod when?

Systems Online when?

>99% to hack
>no super charged :^)
>proceeds to vaporize my specialist

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>>168008931
FUCK YES

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So, I was going to ask the question "what do I do now?" because I've literally been waiting in game months for something to happen. Apparently I cannot access this shadow project.

It seems like I need to do an avatar autopsy but because I don't seem to have an avatar corpse in my inventory. I remember the mission I killed him on but I'm pretty sure it was one of those missions where you don't recover corpses on the ground.

Am I overlooking something or am I fucked? Is it possible to get another avatar to spawn?

>>168013527
The Avatar corpse, like codex corpses, is collected regardless of mission type. Have you done the gateway, forge and blacksite missions, and all research?

>>168013527
i can see you have done the gate
have you done the forge mission?
are you sure there is no tech pending with tygan?

>>168013527
Idk, but if no one else has a legit answer, dev console.

>>168006054
>>168007082
>unable to enjoy lw2 in current state
>too stupid to tweak inis or download any of the many mods resolving common issues
>steam workshop is literally a two click process

Zero pity. Zero at all.

>>168014545
>implying I havn't made the changes I want already
wew lad those are some strong assumptions there

>>168014545
Man I keep breaking my mods but they used to work so now I have to figure out which mods are causing issues out of the 50+ (mostly cosmetic and quality of life shit).

Also fuck man, I spent literally hours creating a dozens strong roster of people using all those cosmetic mods.

>>168013527

Well i'm pretty sure if you didn't have an avatar corpse the avatar corpse text would be red, you can check your inventory to see if you have one.

Also it says right there that you need to complete all other shadow projects first.

Is there anywhere I can find a list of what corpses are used for in LW2? Sectoid corpses are going for 20 now but I don't want to find out later they're used for something I really need.

>>168015314
I'd stick to one or two nice cosmetic mods unless you have a powerful PC. If you've recently been installing and uninstalling a lot of mods make sure you delete your configs and go through and unsub/resub all mods afterward. It's a pain in the ass but it got lw2 running bug free for me when nothing else would.

>>168015886

It tells you in the Black Market, unless that's another mod i'm using with LW2, in which case, there is a mod that adds a tiny exclamation mark next to a corpse in the black market and hovering over it tells you what uses a corpse has, i mean, i know for sure that's a mod but i'm not sure if i'm still using that mod or if it's just a function that LW2 has.

>>168016004
I had to stop using that one because it was causing a bug with LW2. Probably won't install it again until end of this campaign. Wish the devs would update the wiki but I guess working on patches does come first.

>>168015462
>>168014545
>>168014506
>>168014462

I have done all of those except the forge and blacksite mission, For your information though I am playing LW2 if this makes any difference.

I can see the corpse in my inventory by tygan does not have a research option for me. I'm going to try and dev console it because I dont want to kill hours of work.

>In a heavy fire fight
>about to finish off a flanked officer so the troopers can be picked off by my snipers
>suddenly the civilian next to me turns into a faceless and swipes the cover away

I'm new to xcom 2 but I hate faceless now.

>>168017290
the avatar autopsy triggers the final mission
you cant do it until you do those other missions and also research what you get from those

Can ADVENT only transfer legions from adjacent/connected regions, or do they just fly over from anywhere in the world that has enough?

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I like how it's automatically assumed that because I know what a Thracian is I play Total War

But yes I do play total war and that's where I learned about Thracians

EB 2 update when

>>167991805
>>167992418
>>167992780
>>167993161
Remember that the true game is between the player and the developer. If the player beats the game, the developer loses. Johnny Lump will have none of that.

>LW was balanced against Beagle's autism

>>167991805
>the fact that they do balance of the entire mod on the opinion of the highest tier of xcom autists
Impossible was balanced on the opinion of autists because it's the difficulty made for autists..

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>>168017934
You in the right thread?

Is there a way to restore the UI element that shows the Avatar progress? I know that clearing a Regional HQ will show it, but the whole Liberation thing is kinda whack since regions can get "mined out" of supplies anyways.

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>>168017846
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do though.

I have nothing to research and apparently there are more shadow projects, but they simply are not available to me.

It also seems like I still need to do find the forge and blacksite vial, however I am not sure how to do this. I've been running around like a headless chicken for the last 2 months of the game trying to see if anything would happen but nothing, just a bunch of "save the VIP" or "raid advent convoy" missions. I'm pretty confused right now. Worried that LW2 somehow fucked up and made me do missions in the wrong order causing the story progression to lock up.

>keep trying to break LOS
>run out space to break LOS
>long drawn out firefight ensues, some enemies literally just sit in heavy cover in buildings for ~12 turns dodging shots
>no way to advance, but I'm also fully in heavy cover, it it devolves into just continual potshots and my one sniper slowly getting kills
Also when you kill the general, everyone still gets his bonus.
Fix your fucking game pavonis.

>>168019314
Have you liberated any regions? The blacksite facility lead comes from your first liberation.

fuck this stupid shit 1 day expiration 2 day cant do shit just send in the cringe class and hope for best

fuck this shit mod

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>>168019608
whoops

>>168019680
Oh shit, no I have not. If that's the case then, how do i "Find and destroy the regional nerve center". From solutions I've seen online, people have said to flip everything into intel gathering, or just complete more "liberation" missions. But I'm not exactly sure about those since I've been doing missions out the ass.

Sorry for asking to spoonfeed, I'm just getting really desperate now.

>>168019842
Check the long war wiki for detailed info on it, but basically the first two lib chain missions aren't labeled and only have intel rewards. After that it's pretty clear. You will need a lot of guys on intel so start by putting EVERYONE on recruit and putting a soldier as advisor until you have 13 agents.

>>168019842
Don't worry mate, I legit lost 2 campaigns before finding out about the requirements for Liberations.
http://ufopaedia.org/index.php/Missions_(LW2)
Go here and to the Liberations part, follow those steps. The first and second mission won't actually TELL you they're a liberation mission, the third onwards will.

>>168019979
>>168019958
You fucking saved my ass here, thanks alot.

Is there any downside to sending a full team to defend your havens? It looks like there's no prep time

>>168020396
no downside besides potential injuries/deaths, if you're near the end of the campaign it may be better to just abandon your havens and rush golden path

>>168017934
Fellow trve vnderstander, EB2 is bad.

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>>168022943
No it's not

LW 2 is bad

Also medieval weapon mods for XCOM 2 when

how the fuck do you get missions which arent expiring in less than 5 days
so fucking annoying
>have a million troops
>cant use more than 3
>one HAS to be le ebin cringe weeb class because fuck you thats why

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>>168023396
>

>>168023703
>Less than 5 days.

Nigga anything between 3-4 days is good to go. It's those 2 days and less missions you want to avoid. Unless it's Dark VIP

>>168023882
that means 2 or 3 soldiers without 100%
meaning 10+ enemies in pods of 4
not happening
nigga

>>168024119
Suppressors and concealment bonuses are your friend. I can send a squad of 5 in 4 days 5 hours with advanced suppressors.

>>168024302
income is so low but the issue is lots of 1d 2d missions popping up and i fucking hate them

>>168024548
They're cancer, I just ignore unless it's soloable or has a dark event or liberation attached.

>>168023703
>>168024119
>>168024548
Ok... how many agents do you have in your haven.

>>168024119
It's 3-4 soldiers vs 8-12 enemies.

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Aahh, anyone else absolutely LOVE the aesthetic of the coilguns?
These damn things are the best thing to come out of LW2.
Daaaaaaamn, I think I will never upgrade from these.

>>168025065
I'm still waiting for a vanilla version to be released like they did with the lasers

>>168024718
8

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I would kill for an updated LW perk pack that had all the new changes and gear.

>>168025430
Recruit til 13 before doing any intel senpai.

>>168017934
nice blog faggot

>>168025584
ebin kek

>>168025581
wew, ill try, i just thought im gona be doing more missions since i have a million soldiers

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I was gone for a long time (after sparks release) and now i heard that LW2 was here. How's the game now ?

>>168026641
Its become MGS:Ayy Editon where if you fight you loss and if you don't know 110% of the never explained mechanics you will get fondled

>>168026641

Shit, LW2 broke everything, Bagel's quit because it was shit, the mods are all dried up and they're just Mass effect ports.

It's over. It's all over.

Unit is stuck in place after his cover was destroyed, any fixes or quick solutions?

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>>168027438
>>168027439
So just like after every update release since the beginning ? Shit i can still remember the talks about the rulers when it came out

>>168027585

Oh no, that's completely different. Everyone loves the rulers now, they were the best addition to the game and LW2 failed miserably at not adding new rulers.

>>168027585
The ruler memes have been replaced by infiltration reeeee-ing and timers again though now its an actual point to argue because LW2 adds 400% more enemies per mission and doesn't scale the timer hence the shinobi spamming turning the game into MGS: fighting is banned

>>168027524
cover is sacred you must have ebin shootouts, consider as your punishment heretic

>Advent come to fuck my relay up
>Rush team towards resistance soldiers
>There's a pod right outside the building they're holed up in.
>They manage to bring that pod down to 1 half HP advent officer just as my first soldier gets in range.

Haven guys don't fuck around

>Click on slash ability since swords are useful
>Instead of letting me choose a target the fucking ranger just automatically goes to the nearest enemy to slash it
>It doesn't even let me decided from which side to attack so the ranger gets in a flanked position

literally why the fuck does this shit happen

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>>168027668
>>168027749
O-oh. Alright then, XCOM 2 seems to have went beyond the magnificent design

>>168027585
rulers were ok since you knew when to let them enter the game
lw2 is, its just shit, wasted potential

>>168027925
Thankfully configs exist so you can just counter Lump's bullshit with your own

>>168027925

Alright no more memes, after the release of Sparks not much happened for a while, some good and decent mods came out but i don't think there's anything in particular that would wow anyone, the A Better Advent mod got pretty good though.

I don't remember if LW had already release their second batch of mods, which were a new tier of weapons, a bunch of new aliens, and new perks that were pretty OP for the vanilla game.

Then the most recent thing is that LW2 came out, it drastically changed the game as expected, some people love it, some people hate it, most people use other mods without because it's too magnificent. Beagle did quit on LW2, he made a huge post on Reddit explaining why LW2 wasn't for him.

The biggest complaints about LW2 are timers and "stealth", you see, in LW2 you have to "infiltrate" soldiers on a mission before launching, which basically means that you "discover" a mission, which has an expiration date, say, 5 days, 7 days and so on, you select your squad, and depending on how many soldiers you have and what types of weapons you have and other things, it changes how long it takes for those soldiers to "infiltrate", how long you infiltrate changes how many enemies there are, how long it takes to extract, how many reinforcements you get and most importantly in LW2, how long the timers are.

LW2 comes with new maps, and some maps are ridiculously huge, literally the largest sized maps they could make(according to Lump), which means that many times, you have to avoid engaging in firefights in order to complete the objective and evac before the timers run out. And a lot of people don't like that.

That said, there are mods that change such things now, so whatever. My personal opinion is that LW2 is a pretty decent addition to the game, just need some mods to make it less stupid, for example, they did fix the whole "alpha trike the ayy or die" thing, the only problem is that if there are timers you still have to alpha strike them or lose.

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>>168028067
>tfw I gave my soldiers 5 base armour and just take 10 man squads every mission

>>168028295
I just disabled timers, AWC training times and cavalry mass reinforcement spam

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>>168028252

Oh also, a lot of people still hate the rulers. BUT THEY ARE WRONG

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>>168028452
>tfw I have never actually gotten into a fight with the rulers as I only bother touching them once I have prozy mines to instakill them from concealment

>>168028452
I haven't played with rulers but they sound like the same type of bullshit gangplank was - hard content that either fucks you over on the first go, or you learn it, cheese it, and get overpowered with the rewards.

What do you guys take at staff Sgt for Shinobis?

This guy's a stealth build, with line wolf instead of shadowstep.

Shadowstrike/evasive/blade master are all appealing. Evasive not really actually.

I tend to be kinda aggressive with my Shinobis if I'm actually fighting the mission, which is why blademaster looks neato. Is it bugged though?

>>168030808
If you have tactical suppressor mod, shadow strike is godly. If not, I just feel bad for you son. Blademaster is ok for a full on swords guy, I wouldn't take it on a stealth guy.

>>167992012
>>167992093
>>167992379

I've usually gone for Shredder because in the base game i found myself really needing the armor shreds on hard targets and I decided that LW2, if anything, would pile on armor pips on hard targets because of magnificence. Should I retrain my gunners? How much armor is in LW2?

>ADVENT strength 10
S-should I just bail out?
The missions are starting to get super ridiculous.
Reinforcements pour in every other turn.

>>168005783
Stop drop and roll is a mandatory mods.

>>168031678
Lie low, work somewhere else for awhile.

>>168031319
It's not a bad thing to have shredder on one or two gunners, its mostly mechanical things like turrets and mecs that stack armor but advanced mutons and advent will have some, and dark events can stack more.

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Did they ever come up with anymore stupid/cute ADVENT defector memes?

There are still classes like the Shield-bearer and now all the new ones LW2 adds that have let to be turned into a cute girl.

>>168031319
I usually rely on grenadiers/technicals to do my shredding, using gunners as a suppression class instead.

However, the Awc will usually pop out shredder as a first tier perk on people, on snipers, assaults and rangers its really good

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>>168032417

They were all beheaded by Xcom.

>2/6 of my once devastated haven are faceless
>been hiring nothing but faceless after last advent retaliation
G-gotta say thanks to the guy in charge of the haven, r-right?

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>>168032903
>implying arc-thrower specced assault Ampelle isn't the best ally Xcom could have

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>>168032417
>we discussed it a good while ago, i can't remember it ever taking off
I want my shieldbearer /fit/ vet

>>168032417

They all died during the great memeing and rise of Vigilo Confido posters, only some sneks remain.

>>168033180
There is only one commander and Bradford is his central

>campaign going real well
>archons finally show up
>first encounter survives 2 turns of burning, panic and shots fired then flies over and lances my assault into bleedout while still burning before finally dying

Fucking magnificent. I've missed your bullshit, heavy floaters 2.0.

LW1 was rough around the edges but had great tactical firefights and a global map that really felt like you were making progress when you took back countries and upgraded your air fleet
LW2 missions are just rushing to the objective with flashbangs and the strategic game is even worse than vanilla XCOM 2

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>>168033117
>shieldbearer /fit/ vet

Shieldbearer musclegril sounds qt as fuck.

What all new classes were added with LW2?
Gunner, Gunslinger, Rocketeer, Engineer, whatever the overwatch happy fucks are that are the equivalent to Xcom's Rangers, what are those guys called? Sentinels?

>>168034062
Scout, sergeant, and general have also been seen, the blue guys are sentinels. Not sure if there are more further on

>>168033720
This

Who would've thought that rooty tooty point and shooty was more fun than softly softly catchee monkey

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>>168032417
>>168033117
>>168034062
>>168034437
So can you make a full Advent squad then?

I guess the commander would be a Specialist with the more team support focuses abilities rather than hacking, with Officer Training School perks

Stunlancer would be an arc-thrower Assault

Gunner would be a gunner obviously.

Engineer would be a Grenadier.

Rocketeer would be a Technical specced into rockets of course.

Sentinel would be a ranger.

What would the Gunslinger be? I guess there really isn't a gunslinger class in LW2? So Shinobi specced into pistol skills via AWC?

Psi-op could be an Avatar.

Reprogrammed MEC as Spark

Does Advent have a sniper?
That would make a full 10 person team.

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4th HQ assault begins, long standing HQ clearing squad Magician's Red is at it again.
With more ridiculous packs & more ridiculous generals, I don't even know hwat the fuck will be waiting for me there. Pods of Sectopods? Archon armadas? Muton Elite squads? Maybe just squads of generals with 50hp each.
Advent strength in the region is atm 11.
Will Magician's Red face their doom?

>>168031319
Did you try AP rounds instead?

>>168035589
But would the gunslinger, rocketeer or gunner be the one with the massive futa cock?

Clearly the Avatar would be the one man and it would be like one of those shitty harem animes where all the girls want the MC's dick but he's a little bitch that avoids gettin it in at all costs, the MEC is his only real friend.

/vg/ will be playing soon against /m/ with our rep Snaketits as one of the centerpieces

Streamlink here: http://pastebin.com/dikdbiLx

>>168036551
does anyone actually give a fuck this shit

hey guy...
just got xcom2 to try it out
first question, what is "zap" option on the gameplay menu and why doesn't it say anywhere what it is?
second, any way to speed up game with the pirated version?
those damn pauses for no goddamn reason are a drag

>>168037407
The first question is the answer to the second, young grasshopper

I took my time with the Avatar missions and now the timer is really close. I wanted to equip my soldiers with better armor and weapons before starting to sabotage the facilities.
Should I start playing more aggressively or just download a mod and disable the timer?

>>168038047
ommm, cheers!
does it kill that 3s pause after every action?

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What DLC should I buy for my LW2 playthrough?

>>168039176
All of them.

>>168039176
>his

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>>168039889
pugnas a qt

Real talk though, is any of the DLC actually game changing?

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Can someone tell me where was that webm from? Its not beags is it?

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ugh this turned into a disaster. Very Light extraction turned into a long-range slog because the aliens wouldn't leave each other's company and found heavy cover. A flashbanged Muton critted Gameshow through cover for an instant kill. Then Wildcat got minimum damage on a Fleche and left an officer with 1 HP, while Wildling missed a 78% flank shot. The two survivors sent him to bleedout.

I got the VIP out safely and recovered Wildcat just in time.

Probably should have taken laser weapons, but I needed them for heavier engagements and I thought the team could handle a Very Light.

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>>168040601

>>168040730
>A flashbanged Muton critted Gameshow through cover for an instant kill

Supplies are probably thin, but this is why I shuck off corpses to black market aggressively and pick up the GTS training for bleedout chance asap. That and the double loot training are easy to forget about but they are absolutely game changing.

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>>168034062
>>168035589
>tfw you still member when threads tried to create a slice of life ADVENT story
We tried, but did not succeed. Only stragglers remain

>>168040730
Is that the PSI Rookie Mod?

>>168041347
Is that Bob Ross?

>>168039074
I think it's supposed to. If it doesn't, try to grab the Stop Wasting My Time mod. It came out before Zip mode did, so I don't know which (or maybe both) one makes the big difference

>>168041489

No; Psi ops in LW2 need to gain ranks before they can train their next ability, and it says they leveled up when you can do that.

>>168041060
I should grab that. I've honestly been a bit of a filthy savescummer to preserve my soldiers, but I figured I needed to let the cards fall where they may more, unless it's blatant magnificence.

>>168041347
Those truly were the dark days of /xcg/.

>>168041994
You went psi before putting lasers on your dudes?

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>>168041347

>Only stragglers remain

Where?

>>168036835
Yes they do you fucking plebian

>>168042165
When everyone got bored of vanilla and the games performance issues shrank the player base?

Why can't firaxis optimize a game ffs

>>168040601
>>168040781
It is Beags

>>168041994
I would say get the double loot one first, it's a money sink but getting double elerium cores off of loot drops means you can sell for 20 each and not ever be worried about finding more.

I use gremlin loot mod though so I'm always looting

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It's reasons like this I play honestman

Fuck you Jake

>>168041347
I have a human hybrid soldier whose headcanon was that he was one of the "bad batches" of Advent troopers, and he escaped before he could be reconditioned

>>168042414
>Toaster was able to run the game long enough on lauch to beat the game on vanilla
>Literally can't run the game anymore with or without mods
I'm pretty sure I broke something.

>>168042489
is this his TNX campaign? Can you tell me how can i find it? Not exactly, but roughly, cuz there is a ton of VoDs

>>168042183

I have laser weapons, but not enough for all my squads. This was the squad that went without, because I thought they could handle a Very Light number of enemies

>>168044004
If it is his TNX campaign, there is like a 90% chance that the corresponding vod is deleted and you will never find it.

>>168044334
Why is that? I thought he is keeping them

>>168044638
Twitch doesn't hold onto your content. Idk, unless he has it all saved on a hard drive somewhere.

>>168042842
Once you install mods, there's no going back short of factory resetting your computer

The game runs atrociously with mods man

>>168046070
>there's no going back short of factory resetting your computer
Just delete you mods and configs, then verify. Also the game runs fine with mods.

Are anyone's icons fucked up since LW2?

Specifically, my grenade icons are perpetually blacked out.

HQ assault is over, 31 turns & 66 Ayys later, Magician's Red squad has finally survived the hell that it was.
But not without rather grievous casualties.
>Highest ranking officer dead
>Top Assault dead
>Sniper scout weebwarrior dead
>Technical dead
>Ranger and his god shotgun, both dead.
>All others taking atlest 20-day vacations

Hell, never again gonna do ADVENT strength 11 HQ.
Gotta rearrange the squads again.

Valve fucking pls

http://www.pcgamer.com/valve-modders-absolutely-need-to-be-paid/?utm_content=buffer5edd9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb

>>168046247
I was exaggerating. And it doesn't run great with mods, it pretty quickly sees performance drop off a cliff once you get a few installed. Massive memory issues

Could just be my toaster

>>168048060
>Could just be my toaster
It is your toaster. Not saying the game is optimized, just lower specs are going to make the issues tenfold worse.

>>168047998
I agree with them 100%.
But not with some fucking slacker company like Firaxis or Bethesda coming and taking anything more than 5%.
Steam can have its 5% or hell even 10%, since they provide the platform.

I for one would gladly give money to capnbubs and some others, if steam provided a fair and equitable platform to do so.

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>>168047998
well then /xcg/:

who here would pay for LW2?

>>168048423
Oh and the form should be a donation type one, no modder should force players to pay for those mods, since then the company behind the game can actually have a case with someone using their assets to make money.

>>168048423
>I for one would gladly give money to capnbubs and some others
Just use patreon or paypal donations.
Also, last time Valve tried it, modders were the ones getting 5-10%.

>>168048531
No.

>>168048423
Doesn't sound like they are talking about a donation system to me. This whole "modders should be paid" line is cute, but no one is going to fall for that bs line.

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COVER STUCK
COVER STUCK

PLEASE I BEG YOU

WE'RE DEAD

Y-YOU'RE A G-GENUINE DICK SUCKER

>>168049803
Looks like he is invincible to me anon

>>168048206
Would putting all my mods into one supermod, and then only running that, lower the memory burden?

>>168050386
I have no idea, but this idea sounds extremely inherently flawed.
LW2 really hammers the load times, but is does it help because all the changes are packaged together? I think it is all dependent on the packaging. If you actually tailored the mods to work together maybe.

>>168041827
yeah that seemed to work pretty fine actually

>>168050087
I didn't get to find out since it was the end of the mission but she has the no cover indicator and could still see enemies.

>>168042368
evidently not

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>>168053340
If you mean that people don't care that much about a board v. board match then sure, but if you mean they don't care about the /xcg/ ballfoot team then your wrong.

what are end game upgrades for EW? I feel like I fucked up getting a bunch of mechs.

>>168053818
One, maybe two MECs is all you need. Top rank soldiers with gene mods are still the top tier.

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>Extremely Light Resistance
>Vulnerable
>Mission is still nothing but snek pods.

>>168050386
>mods into one supermod
Isn't that the Spectrum overhaul in a nutshell though?

jesus christ EUs tutorial is the most hand holding restraining bullshit ever

>>168054615
>complaining about hand holding in a map designed to hold your hand

>>168023396
>try to run from cover to cover so you can hit sectiod that's mind-controlling your archer with your laser-halberd
>it was a trap!
>two enemy sentries (you can tell by thier off-coloured sallet and blued steel/leather uniform) were on overwatch!
>they both hit you with their plasma crossbows
>you also activate a pod of muton knights
>one of them throws a flaming pot of oil right at the center of your squad, despite not having vision
fix your fucking game jake

>>168053905
>POISONED
>GOT GRABBED

>>168056084
Ranger class = Longbowman with a mallet
Grenadier class = Manuballista with different ammo pots
Sharpshooter class = Guy with an arbalest and a 1-handed chu ko nu
Specialist = Guy with a falcon and a regular weapon

Spark = An actual knight

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>7x heavy floater pod

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Binary Domain ports when

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>>167982307
IT COMES

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>>168057142
Quantum Break ports when?

>Just sent my first rapid reaction rangers with coilguns to a haven defense mission

Two rangers with coilguns and equipped for maximum aim. Feels like I committed a crime.

>>167980050
>Playing Long War
>Well you don't have the aim for a Gunner and you don't have the health for Rocketeer, lets get you a random subclass!
>Gets Scout
>Well here's your Motion Tracker and Battle Scanner, see you on the memorial board

This aside, I am doing my first Long War run and I am having a blast. I learned how to flank like never before and haven't had a single grievous wound in 3 missions.

>>168057520
Looks like a younger XCOM 2 Bradford

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remove collaborators

>>168015886
I've got a 4790K and GTX 970 (3.5 Gigamemes), both overclocked along with 16GB of DDR3-1866

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>>168058654
>younger XCOM 2 Bradford

>>168057520
Ports of what? Binary Domain has some amazing Robot models, what does Quantum Break have for XCOM?

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>>168060589
Maybe it's the hair

>>168052478
oopsss....
forgot the text.... like 3 hours ago....
but anyway:
> do we have any love for the UFO series here?