/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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>>167949764
Reminder

Nth for Gravelord is Bestlord

ripostan

>>167949532
>no-go
Each DLC has an area specifically intended for multiplayer co-op. They are optional, and are all cancer incarnate. Only Eleum Loyce's is arguably worth the effort for the greatsword that swings like a straight sword and the fashion ring. Provided you like taking giant electric horsecock up the ass all day every day, that is. Sunken City's "co-op challenge" area deserves a special mention for having a gorrilian poison statues in one room spitting at you, except instead of poison they inflict curse, and also the boss is literally a gank squad. I can't emphasize that "literally" enough. Yes, there are curse statues in the boss room.

Iron Keep is awful, but the DLC behind it is easily worth the effort.

Shit Souls 3
Memehackazaki

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>>167949995
Nito is the raddest fucking guy

>>167949995
>>167950149
Witch of Izalith is best lord because she and her daughters are cute

>>167950210
Can we report him for posting this off-topic shit in every fucking thread?

>>167950010
lewd

Are the Pontiff eye rings worth anything? The Left one seems practicaly useless, with how many presumably uninterrupted hits it requites you to have before the effect starts.

>>167950321
>off-topic
I have made one post, other than this one, and it is on topic.

Just a reminder that Lucinigger is a confirmed pedophile on /g/

>>167950068
Yeah I really liked CoTIK.

>curse statues

What, is it a new SoTFS torture? I don't remember this being on vanilla.

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>>167950320
Witch and Gravelord desperately need more love.
The games haven't been kind to them at all.

>>167950416
It stacks with Kirk armor. And the number of attacks required differs between weapons.

Just go off-hand OWCS, Pontiff Left, Pontiff Right, Carthus Beacon, and Kirk armor.

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Is sl78 okay or too high for an aldrichfag?
Please bless me with a (You) on this one.

>>167950321
It's literally spam, if we all report it will get taken care of.

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So I want to cosplay as Firekeeper. What build should I go?

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>>167950582
It stacks with FUCKING WHAT?!

>>167950740
You can't use her head gear sadly, but Pyromancer would be the most obvious choice.

>>167950643
You'll just get banned for abusing the report function again.

>>167950740
Full healslut, zero offense.

>keep seeing developer message signs with 9999 ratings in Firelink
do you think they're testing the DLC?

>>167950740
Put on her dress plus Lorian's crown and beat people to death with a torch

>>167950805
>You can't use her head gear sadly, but Pyromancer would be the most obvious choice.
Nonsense, Firekeepers tend to the flame, they don't throw them at people

>>167950416
Left eye takes 6-ish hits to trigger the first stage and heal you for 30hp. You then have a 1 second window to get another six hits in to activate the second stage, which fully restores your hp constantly until it drops back down to stage zero which takes one second unless you can keep getting six hits every second. The only consistent way to hit stage two and keep it there is by using a twin weapon against two or more enemies, that I know of. This is easiest to do in the Deacons boss fight.

Right Eye takes 2-4-ish hits to reach stage one, which gives you a 7.5% damage boost on weapons and another 2-4-ish hits to reach stage two for another 7.5% boost (total of 15%). Second stage is way easier to reach than Left Eye's and lasts longer.

Old Wolf Curved Sword has similar effects, except its left eye effect heals 120 HP on the first stage and has no second stage that I know of. Carthus Beacon is like the Right Eye except its first stage is active automatically and you hit the second stage after the first 2-4 attacks (no third stage).

>>167950807
Heals only.
DPS from summoned phantoms.

Could be something.

>>167950740
Dragonsucker's Greatdildo is a must

>>167950740
Lorian's Crown, Firekeeper set, Firelink Greatsword

>>167949954
>you're just made
What a fucking retard that fuckwit is.

>>167950554
Sunken City challenge area. I remember it because they killed the CE wizard who cheated their way into it early. They made themselves invincible to fully explore it, and I remember them dying at the exact moment when I asked "wait, doesn't curse still kill invincible cheaters?".

>>167950765
You read that right. Rolling into an enemy with Kirk armor will proc the effect.

>>167950614
too high

how much did you upgrade your weapon?

just got bloodborne. i'm new to these kinds of games, is there a specific weapon comboo I should choose that's easier for bad players?

I chose the axe and blunderbuss and i'm wondering if the pistol and cleaver would have been better

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>>167950805
>y-you'll get banned for reporting bannable posts
Oh boy, look at the faggot squirm.

>>167950892
Estus is basically liquid fire, and they give that shit out like candy. Tossing a bit of it around isn't going to hurt anything, unless you want it too.

>>167950952
u made
:)

>>167951138
Fuck off to Bloodborne general.

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MOMMY ROSARIA

>>167950575
In the grand scheme of things, neither of them seemed to amount to much themselves. THe Lost Sinner was implied that she tried to do the same thing she did, and the Old Chaos was a big deal in the Ivory King DLC, and in DS3 you're seeing the last embers of it as it dies out, but the Witch herself ended up being a gross bug. Nito seems content to just sleep eternity away in his coffin because why should he build a kingdom like Gwyn or the Witch because everyone dies. I think that's what they were trying to do with the Milfanito and Agdayne, trying to give Nito a civilization to call his own because he had the barest of bone (kek) in terms of actual content in the first game.

Meanwhile Seath the Bitch somehow manages to persist through the three games in some form or another.

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I don't know anything about 3's stats, since the dump stats seem to change with every game. What stats are worth leveling first, and when should I bother stopping?

>>167950874
No, that's just cheaters fucking with the numbers on messages.

>>167951138
Ask in >>167905318

>>167951089
I didn't yet I'm just planning on things.
If I'm not mistaken I can invade all the way down to sl70, is that really too high for anor londo?
What's a more preferable range then?

>>167951252
>>167951326
why the fuck have bloodborne in the OP then?

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>>167951138
This is the easiest for PvE, and is very new player friendly.

>>167951486
Faggots being faggots. They have their own general.

dex/fth or str/fth?

>>167951486
Because people keep forgetting to delete it. /dsg/ is not for bloodborne like /tesg/ isn't for ESO

Holy fucking shit, BUFF MORNE'S AR ALREADY. ITS COMPLETELY OUTCLASSED BY NEARLY EVERY OTHER GREATHAMMER

>b-but the WA!
its fucking worthless against anyone with half a brain

>>167951486
Just ignore the shit posters. The are PC only and are still mad that they can never play the best game in the series since DaS1.

Talking about BB in this thread is perfectly fine. That's why it is in the OP.

Did anybody save that Crimson Bat boss video and can upload it on mixtape.moe or something ?

>>167951643
speaking of great hammers. Is there literally any reason to use one other than Vordt's ?

>>167951643
Isn't it meant to be a gankspank weapon?
>its fucking worthless against anyone with half a brain
Good thing most soulsfag have even less I guess.

>>167951725
Great club is the only decent one.

>>167951725
Great Club is the highest damaging, best moveset, and lightest greathammer
>From Balance

>>167951448
you'll want to be able to hit people who are only 50

>>167951076
>>167950582

it's not nice to tell lies anon

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That small-ass, pathetic fucking endurance bar is probably the worst thing in Dark Souls 3. That and the character kicking when you don't want her to.

Anyway, I finally beat all of the bosses in this shit. What do I do now?

>>167951767
>Isn't it meant to be a gankspank weapon?

No. PvP is an afterthought rememeber? It is the highest stat requirement weapon in the game including STR, FAI, and the VIT necessary to wield, while having mediocre damage and a whooping 2 use of the WA (because you'll have no points left over ATT).

>>167951995
>using an ultra weapon with no poise

what are you doing anon?

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First time demon's souls guy here(again)

Is Flamelurker supposed to be the "get good at rolling or die trying" boss?

I love big weapons, started as knight, level 25, 20 str, rest pretty much in vit/end, crushing claymore +2 long sword +4, got soul arrows too.

Obviously he is weak(er) to magic than anything else I've tried. The problems begin when he drops down to something like below 20% hp I think?

He then apparently needs to go SANIC at that point. The only option feels like to cheese with soul arrows and even then I get raped because rolling feels inconsistent at best. I try to spring away also, but the sudden FPS spikes fuck me up so often.

Died to him like 10 times. Is this simply a matter of git gud? I've also explored a bit of tower of latria, but flamelurker is the farthest boss I have gotten to so far.
Really enjoying the game apart from him raping me and the constant FPS drops.

>>167952082
You can defend yourself pretty well without relying entirely on rolling if you go find the purple flame shield.

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>>167952065
Being awesome.

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REPLAYING DS3 FOR THE SECOND TIME AFTER CLEARING THE GAME ON 1.05

PLEASE GIVE PROTIPS

I'm planing to go full STR now, but I heard poised is fucked.

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>>167951684
I don't have the full video but here's the Demon Prince phase.

>>167951623
Is there a general for ESO?

>>167952082
>Is Flamelurker supposed to be the "get good at rolling or die trying" boss?
Flamelurker is the "get good at stamina management or die trying" boss. Rolling is only necessary if you don't have the Purple Flame Shield that was guarded by the red and blue dragons before the Phalanx/Lead Demon boss in 1-1. If the dragons haven't fucked off yet, just shoot them with arrows until they do and loot everything in that pile of corpses.

>>167952203
2 str away from that, got it already.

But you have to be fucking kidding me if you tell me that shield is good against him? Because what I've learned from ds 1/2/3, it seems like the last thing you wanna do against him is blocking.

I know his attack patterns pretty well now so I suppose I'll give it a shot.

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Anyone play these games with keyboard and trackball? Is it doable?

>>167952082
PFS or Brushwood shield will negate his attacks, more or less, and a buffed winged spear or the istarelle will fuck him up.

But he was considered the git gud or get out boss of the game.

>>167952396
It is fucked, go pyro.

>>167952396
>I'm planing to go full STR now, but I heard poised is fucked.


It's not. Get a big sword/hammer and armor.

>>167952476
It's pretty damn good, maybe not 100% trivialize tier but using that shield will probably help you out a lot if his big fire explosions are giving you trouble.

>>167952476
Actually, greatshields are really fucking good in Demon's Souls. They're like castle walls you hold in front of you.

>>167952431
I was mostly interetsed in the boss music, but thanks anyway.

>>167952546
>be either overleveled or do shit damage

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FUCK YOU KALAMEET, LOWER YOUR FUCKING TAIL

i swear to christ, cutting the tail is 10x harder than actually killing him, he's shit compared to Sinh.

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>>167952396
Be prepared to invest endless amounts of souls into leveling equip load.
Also if you're going full STR you might as well get a greatshield too.
Also, Black Knight weapons are absolutely wonderful.

>>167952637
????

>>167952546
>>167952649
My weaponfu is greataxe, did I fuck up?

weapon tier list request 3

>>167952743
Are you good?

If yes then no.

>>167952396
Poise makes your hyperarmor harder to break. It doesn't extend hyperarmor frames or anything, just increases what you need to break them. Hyperarmor is also generally good enough on its own to not really need poise unless you're looking to outtrade specific weapons.

>>167952743
Greataxe is best axe.

>>167951796
>>167951804
>>167952041
It doesn't seem like a such an overwhelmingly better option.
I'm crunching up the numbers right now and it seems a 2handed heavy great club at 66str only out-damages 50/30 mornes by 29 points of damage.
Am I missing out something? How much damage does the WA give you?

>>167952638
Having tails that are a bitch to cut off seems to be a thing Everlasting Dragons are fond of.
To this day I'm convinced no one has actually died to Seath in a clean fight, and all deaths are a result of trying to get the Moonlight Greatsword while playing ring around the rosie with him.

>>167952743
I haven't used it personally, but I hear it's quite viable

>>167952675
You can't wield 30+ poise armor and giant weapons without heavily sacrificing in other areas

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Well it's about time.

>>167952396
poise is fine, only works with weapons that actually need it. Poise now reduces the amount of poise damage you take so you won't get stunned out of your attacks with heavy weapons. Most of the time you're fine with little poise against most weapons/enemies but getting poise is helpful in a lot of situations so don't ignore it. Strength in it's entirety is great. Keep an eye out for the butchers knife, it's a cool weapon with lots of range. Or for something heavier you should use the great club. Great damage/str scaling for it's low weight as an ultra. Zweihander is also a good choice. Don't forget to infuse weapons with heavy gems for more str scaling. Lastly, if you have the dlc the millwood battleaxe is so good it's broken with it's amount of damage and str scaling.

>>167952951
I do fine with lothric greatsword and silver knight armor(except for the cathedral helmet) at SL 90

>>167952897
The heavy great club can be buffed, its R2 is an amazing roll catcher, and I believe it weighs half as much as Morne's allowing you to wear better poise armor.

>>167951684
I did. still interested?

>>167952898
>To this day I'm convinced no one has actually died to Seath in a clean fight

I fought Seath like five times, and every time I died to him was because I was trying to get his tail, but when I did manage to finally get it I basically just got in his stomach and swung away. It was real easy.

Actually, the first time I died to him, it wasn't actually because he killed him, but because one of those clam followed me into the boss room before the fog went up.

>>167953095
Do you really need poise for a greathammer?
I have almost and seem to be able to still r1 r1 trade even with greataxes.

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>>167952082

>>167953052
Stop posting this here.

>>167953134
Of course, kind anon.

>>167953390
I've only posted that once, cunt.

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>>167953425
Don't worry, he's just mad he has to go through Earthen Peak one more time whether he's going to play DaS2 or not.

Will the 2nd dlc redeem everything the base game and the first dlc did wrong?

>>167953540
No.

What's the deal with Priscilla's tower in painted world in DaS3? I see a couple blood stains which show people fighting but there's nothing here.

>>167953540
Why do you kid yourself

>>167953425
And now you know we've seen it already. Though I'm tempted to make a hypertwink to invade.

>>167953529
n-no... shut up

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>>167952951
inb4 6 points from str is a big sacrifice

>>167953609
There's an invader there, and he's fucking livid.

>>167953582
Seems kinda fitting that the Dark Souls franchise will fade into oblivion from mediocrity instead of going out with a bang, considering what the games are all about.

>>167952065
poise is for bitches

>>167953609
Use an ember.

>>167953658
>inb4 6 points from str is a big sacrifice
Actually, the real problem is 60str instead of 40. The gains for two-handing past 60 are really minimal, and the whole "66str" meme is just another case of people not knowing what softcaps are.

>>167953658
looks bretty gud
how much of a sacrifice would 2 or 3 points of endurance be? I don'treally play with big weapons in ds3 and I'd want a little more dex for other options and millwood bow.

>>167953312
as much as I like the detailed thing, TL;DR, I'm only here because I am too stubborn to my playstyle sometimes so I am asking alternatives.

Some anons probably don't give a fuck, but I think first playthrough should be as blind as possible. I try to stick to only googling about stats/upgrades and shit, which none of the games really explain the system to you well.

Especially bosses, I try to bang my head into the wall as many times as it is needed.
"This doesn't work at ALL. Maybe bows? Magic? Shield?" That type of thing.

I'm only asking because I am hoping some anons are kind enough to give that kind of tips instead of me going to wiki and finding the most cheese way possible. I understand that with HUEG weapons(and maybe a bit of magic) I will probably get assraped superhard in this game.

But that is part of the enjoyment :)

>>167953419
here you go
1st dlc boss spoiler
https://my.mixtape.moe/skopje.mp4

>>167953052
>started a char a week ago
>almost finishing it

No thanks, I won't go through the horrible early game ever again.

>>167953910
use the cover provided to you in the arena to your advantage and he will become less challenging.

>>167954015
>not finishing early-game in less than an hour with Blacksmith Hammer

>>167954120
>constantly using the same strategy
Try something different instead.

>>167954012
Thank you very much.

>check out amazon app store for dark souls
>there's a ds1 sound board for all npcs
neat

>the npcs making pained dying noises sound like orgasms out of context
voice acting studios must be a weird place

I haven't really touched DS3 much since release. Is magic still garbage early game?

>>167954314
>>the npcs making pained dying noises sound like orgasms out of context
Perfect for fapping.

>>167954314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MaafBO95Js

yup.

Tell me why I shouldn't go for luck build.

The only thing stopping me right now is because I won't be able to use bow for cheesing.

>>167954361
It's still garbage all game.

Anyone on PS4 want to help me move a weapon from one character to another in order to make early game pyro not be a bore? Pass is help , and I can put my purple sign down at the undead settlement bonfire.

>>167953910
Just try leveling up a bit, you seem to be underleveled for this place
When I had issues with some bosses in DeS, I went in another world and gained some levels. The bosses I was struggling with weren't a threat anymore, maybe because also I got gud
They became a threat again in NG+ though

>>167954361
magic is still garbage all game

In other news pyromancy gets a ton of cool shit in the upcoming DLC.

Wizard faggot quoted "at least these we get a spell that isnt a reskin weapon buff"

>>167954378
and it's a mobile app so perfect for all situations

>>167954415
i think fan porno games usually use injury sounds actually

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>>167953814
Do something like this if you want to use different weapons.

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>>167954415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jb0kHnlnQ0
He turned me bi

>>167954012
>Toxic
For what reason ?

>>167954440
Imagine deal 3 status problems to one player
well now you can't because that shit was patched

>>167954440
The only weapon pure Luck has is Anri's Straight Sword, period. It's an okay sword, but they've been nerfing it little bit by little bit every patch so far. Hollow's Luck scaling is actually kind of bad, and no good on pure Luck. Hybrid Str or Dex Luck builds have more weapons with Hollow, but you'll always have a little less damage than Refined and players don't seem to status any faster. Works great in PvE, though.

>>167950614
seems too high.

I think 50's or 60's is ideal. I was getting summoned constantly around there. literally had to take the covenant off just to walk somewhere else.

>>167954910
Yeah I'm looking at AnSS centric build right now.

Maybe a little side fai/int but magic sucks in DS3.

Does anyone feel like this DLC will end up feeling disjointed as fuck? It looks like they took cut content from other areas of the game and just slapped it together in the Dreg Heap, and it feels like they kind of fucked themselves over having the entrance to the second DLC right before the kiln.

>>167954120
>>167954161
I'm open to suggestions. BSM is an option for me because I haven't tried it yet.

>>167954592
why do so many ppl use a caestus in the offhand?
Is the parry super good? pls teach me the pvp secrets.

>>167955104
Magic only sucks in PvP, and that's only if you're using the spells that are easy to dodge. It works just fine if you don't use shit spells.

Get 30-60 Fth and use buff spells for your sword. Anri's gets a little bit of extra physical Faith scaling which helps, the damage boost will patch up the sub-400 AR, and the buffs will give variety to what will otherwise be a rather samey playthrough. If you're going to kill Anri early for it, make sure you buy Yuria's spellbook first for Dark Blade.

Never do Int/Lck. The Man-Grub Staff is really bad, and Crystal/Great Magic Weapon doesn't scale when cast with it.

>>167952396
use:

Yhorms
Gundyrs halberd
Fume
Mace/Warpick

put on as much armor as you can and prepare to gouge both vit and end

>>167955323
I'd suggest the whip, but you'd need repair powders.
Try the lucerne.

>>167955106
>It looks like they took cut content from other areas of the game and just slapped it together in the Dreg Heap
What it looks like is Dark Souls 2 if it were Dark Souls 3 instead of being shit.

>the entrance to the second DLC right before the kiln
They said in an interview that they haven't decided where the entrance will be yet. You're teleported to that first place like with AoA, so it could be anywhere.

>>167955598
>They said in an interview that they haven't decided where the entrance will be yet.
Because they fucked themselves over and they know it. They don't want to spoil their endgame scenery but at the same time its the only logical place for an entrance to work, beyond possibly having the painting in the first DLC be a gateway.

It just comes across like they don't know what the fuck they're doing and they're actively being hampered by decisions they made in development.

>>167955472
Does faith amount affect the strength of buff? What other miracles should I be using with luck build?

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>>167955384
>weights next to nothing
>early parry frames
>free regen if blessed

>>167955806
why use it over a parry shield?

>>167956092
The weight. People like to get as close as possible to 70.0% equip load.

If you're not into min/maxing armour and prefer fashion like a normal person then go for it.

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>>167950149

>>167956092
People say weight mostly like >>167956217, but also because it has extremely fast recovery frames. You have a larger parry window with a Parry Shield, but if you miss it takes a bit to recover from the failed parry attempt.

post leaks

>>167954515
I figured the worlds are meant to be played in order, but I did go to latria in that exact meaning. After reading about world tendencies, I raped my boletaria palace to black to get souls and grass. I'm sure I will regret that later.
My best was getting flamelurker to 10%ish hp then I fucked up. Goddamn was I mad.

I just need to git gud mostly, havent played souls for like 2 months at all before this anyway.
But the rolling feels very unreliable in this one. I feel better blocking/spacing. Even got flamelurker down to 20%ish with claymore only when drunk, no fucking idea how.

>>167957332
4-1 is the best place to go to first if you want to take a small risk for big cheese.

Who playin

>>167957610
aint me cuz

>>167957332
if you can consistently get him to 20%, try getting behind the skeletons in the corners of the room and using his bad pathfinding for a few free hits. nobody will look down on you for using minimal cheese on flamelurker.

>>167956972
See>>167954012
Also read that Vaati pastebin in the OP.

So what's so good about dark souls 3? I've been playing this game lately and it never gets better. PvP has been shitty so far and the moveset sucks too. PvE is quite boring, very few enemies and some bosses are just dumb, same problems that ds2 had. After all this game has nothing special and I can easily say that dark souls 2 >> 3.

I want to make a soooky skelly boi for the DLC. Should I use dark sorceries or dark miracles?

>>167957868
>So what's so good about dark souls 3?
Music, I guess.

>>167957868
It was built from the ground up to be fanservice for DaS1. If you didn't play DaS1, your enjoyment of DaS3 is severely diminished.

Can anyone offer some insight on what kind of build the SL125 premades were at the DLC event?
Wonder what kind of build could use sunlight spear and a refined longsword

>>167957868
It's a vast improvement in almost all regards compared to 1 and 2, save for DaS1 and it's interconnected world memes.
>and the moveset sucks too
Compared to what? The majority of them are DaS1 weapons + new WAs. The others are paired weapons and a couple of DaS2 moveset weapons here and there.
>PvE is quite boring, very few enemies and some bosses are just dumb
Again, you have to look back and see how faster and more agressive those are compared to the previous games in the series. Bosses have much faster and more varied movesets as well. Allant moves like a senile old man compared to Gundy/Sully.
I personally consider new gen souls games (BB and 3) to be better than the previous gen, namely yes, because they're much less of a slugfest.

>>167958780
>It's a vast improvement in almost all regards
Like what

>>167949764
When is new dlc release?

March or April?

>>167957868
level design-wise DS3 is better than 2
also no life gems that trivialize a lot of the game and estus usage.

Okay, so in Dark Firelink, Gundyr is alive; and in Your Firelink, Gundyr is impaled by the Coiled Sword that the Soul of Cinder uses.

So this implies that in your timeline, Gundyr was defeated by Soul of Cinder and Soul of Cinder linked the fire. However, in the timeline you go around adventuring in, Gundyr defeated the Soul of Cinder (or they simply never fought), and the First Flame went out; and the darkness started spreading from Firelink, to Lothric Castle, to the rest of the world.

So which one is the guy that you fight at the end of the game? He still has his coiled sword, so he couldn't have been the one that defeated Gundyr, but how did he become a Soul of Cinder without linking the flame?

>>167958812
Early March

>>167958780
I play souls because I like thoughtful, slow measured combat. If I wanted flipping all over the place and mashing attack I'd play a character action game.

BB and 3 are like the anime fighter plague in fighting games right now.

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>tfw 900AR on a fucking axe without using swordring/redeye

jeebus

>>167958925
The last boss is the bonfire itself, manifested as an amalgamation of every person who's ever linked the flame.

>>167951668
kill yourself faggot

>>167959019
kill it with bug spray

>>167958780
I kinda get your point bro. Maybe it's the pace of the game that I don't enjoy much. Everything is much faster than the previous souls if you know what I mean.

>>167958927
So like a few weeks depending on time zone?

>>167958927
>Early
>28th

>>167959019
too bad that
>dragonform is nerfed in pvp
>deep protection is nerfed in pvp
>warcry is nerfed in pvp
>swordring is nerfed in pvp
>lmao duel charms
>millwood battle axe does more damage anyway

>>167958812
March 28th.

>>167958927
>early

>>167958925
You misunderstand, Gundyr was trying to link the fire but didn't arrive in time and the fire very very nearly died before someone else showed up and linked the fire with Gundyr. Also

>>167959060

What's the general guideline for leveling adaptability again? Enough for 99 agility, minus one point per every three levels of attunement you have?

>>167959436
Go for 105 agility

>>167958807
>faster bosses with more varied movesets
>more agressive regular mobs with actual combos instead of backstab pillows that can swing three times maximum
And that's the meat of the game right there.
The levels also more consistent in quality, even though they don't have the same interconnectivity as 1. At least there is not a massive drop in quality like post anorlondo/amana.
>>167958967
What's so thoughtful about DaS1 combat, compared to 3? Yeah chugs are a bit slower (although still faster than 2 and also have instant hp recovery), but your enemies are also slower on average. Yet your general speed, your swings etc, is pretty much the same as in 3.

>>167959205
>warcry
>on dragonslayer axe
you do know that warcry removes lightning blade right?

also that's without swordring

and it's not like you'll ever find someone stupid enough to get hit by you in the 5 second dragon roar buff anyway.

>millwood battle axe does more damage anyway
without the roar, deep protection and lightning clutch (rip in pvp also) it still does 700+AR with just lightning blade.

>>167959119
It's almost 7 weeks away, anon.

What exactly does it mean when they say in DaS1 the way of white is being sent to the catacombs to seek kindling.

Are they hunting Pinwheel for the right of kindling? Are they looking for bonfires to kindle down there? Are they just looking for humanity to collect to kindle with?

>>167949764
Is there any tier-list for DSIII weapons yet? I wanna make an RP build so I'm not exactly too fussed about it, but I'd like to level at least one decent weapon.

>>167959436
If you feel like you can get away with it, 96 Agility is not bad. Beyond that, you'll want 100 rather than 99 since it isn't that much more for an extra backstep i-frame, and backsteps are OP in DaS2.

>>167959512
>What's so thoughtful about DaS1 combat, compared to 3
There isn't anything, charged R2 attacks and WA's add more depth to the basic combat across the board.

>>167959512
>>faster bosses with more varied movesets
>>more agressive regular mobs with actual combos instead of backstab pillows that can swing three times maximum
This becomes a tedious pain in the gooch when the game is full of Bloodborne enemies and bosses and you are just as clunky as you were in DS1.

>The levels also more consistent in quality
Yeah, brown and grey hallways

>>167959585
There's a heavily implication that all of that stuff is bullshit and way of the white clerics are sent to Lordran just so they can go hollow and fuck off out of being a nuisance in Thorolund when they turn undead.

>>167959512
You just said it, the enemies are slower, there are less multihit combos and they don't as aggressively try to break past your defenses, there's more time in battle to just stop and think about whats going on than to react.

Meanwhile, your general speed is significantly less than in 3 because of all the extra toys you get there, quicksteps, twinblades, a massively wider weapon selection opening for the door much more safe but effective tools to use.

You can just call it harder, and that's fair, but think about how you approach a level in 1 vs in 3, you're thinking at all times about how to deal with the route between you and the bonfire, which enemies you can kite past, which you have to stop and engage and exactly how quickly you can take them out before the ones you ran past caught you, it's cerebral.
In 3 you'd run up and one or two hit every enemy on the way, while relying on good reactions and dodges to deal with the ones who surprise you,. And there's significantly less punishment for a fuckup because of the massive amount of bonfires so a particularly difficult section you're struggling with stops being the practiced and routine run back there while thinking about strategy it is in 1 and just becomes mashing your head against it as fast as you can until eventually you win.

>>167959019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvYApd_X3aU

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RIP I had no idea

>>167960101
Basically DaS1 is an RPG with real time combat and DaS3 is an action game with a leveling system.

>>167959774
>This becomes a tedious pain in the gooch when the game is full of Bloodborne enemies and bosses and you are just as clunky as you were in DS1.
I never understood this meme, the only, ONLY part of it which is remotely true is that dodges have less wakeup frames on them so you can get into the action faster, making it similar to quickstep.
The regular unlocked BB roll is just as fast.
The walking speed is just as fast.
The weapons are hardly any faster. The longsword R1s are actually a bit faster than the saw cleaver/untricked ludwigs ones. Kirk/greathammers have similar swing speeds as well. It's same shit.
By any means that's not nearly enough to claim that the game is unfair.

>>167959714
Answer me faggots!

>>167960240
I don't get it

>>167956827
What's going on here?

>>167960101
worth mentioning is that while enemies won't try to break your guard as aggressively, they're generally a lot harder to crack themselves in the first game, the hardest part about sentinels is physically hitting them past their fuckoff shield.

>>167960419
That's a fucking retarded claim especially considering how the leveling systems are the same as well as the """"quest"""" routes, because the plot and choices in the games are barebone as fuck.
DMC would be an action game with a leveling system.

>>167960589
That might've been true if they weren't mind numbingly slow and easy to circumvent any forward defense entirely. At least the ones in the cathedral had WoG to sort of round out that weakness a bit.

DS1 had best chunky clunk heavy armor sounds.
DS1 best souls confirmed
come at me niggers

>>167960558
lord of point downs quit shit souls 3

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>>167960240
Why are e-celebs all so melodramatic and gay?

>>167960965
Every sensible Souls player quit shit souls 3

>>167960558
Yet another e-celeb has announced quitting souls for good.

They're all making a big show of disavowing and "moving on" past the souls series now that Nioh and For Honor are here.

>>167960558
i was also going to post this

>>167961125
good, pandering to bad fighting game players ruined the series.

>>167961061
You don't get views by staring at your screen and not reacting to anything.

>tfw can't use CCS, Follower sabre or most straight swords without feeling dirty

>>167961296
Just make a shitter cosplay character and bathe yourself in irony to wash it off

>>167961296
Who cares man. Use what you want, you're only holding yourself back.

>>167960240
lol what a bunch of faggots. I always point down when I win.

Why does player character hold 2H normal swords in such a weird way? Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 2 got it right the first time with them holding it pointing down towards the ground.

>>167961469
Because the wrong way looks cool and the accurate way looks lame

I'm glad the Souls series is getting scrapped. It just can't compete with games like Bloodborne and Nioh now.

>>167961125
>tfw vaati is sticking with us

truly /our/ guy...

>>167961593
I tried really hard to like bloodborne but I just can't

I guess I'll try nioh too

>>167961593
BB is a souls games though.
And nioh is vastly different.

>>167961636
I would milk it as long as I can if it gets me 5k monthly too.

>>167961125
That sounds pretty salty, what do they expect to accomplish?
>less than 1k views
>eceleb

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>summoned
>host running around in panic with invader on his ass
>go after invader
>host tries to help but just hurts himself and runs away
>kill invader
>host runs back and uses point down gesture at dead invader
>BC out because please Gwyn no
>he resummons me
i want boss invasion co-op back. it was such a great way to weed out the shitters and have proper jolly co-op. I could help the fun players and watch the rest succumb to you died. fucking hell.

>>167961802

And don't get the Souls comparison. Nioh feels nothing like it. It's closer to past Team Ninja games.

>>167961541
Wrong way looks retarded with a broken wrist

>>167961974
>host runs back and uses point down gesture at dead invader
What the fuck.
Instead of Black Crystalling, backstab him. Lead him to a trap and let him die.

>>167961962
Most of them make some paltry sum from their channels and hope against hope to turn it into a career one day. They're avaricious with their follower-base and pull what amount to personal PR stunts like this so they can keep bottomfeeding off of new and popular content.

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Finally going to make a lance build in Scholar.
Going Raw. Rate?

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>smacking the dancer's arse about with my Reinforced Club + 3

>>167962283
>traps
>in DaS3
pfft
He'll walk into the trap, roll 30 times and chug two flasks.

The only trap left in DaS3 is Gwyndolin, and even he's ruined.

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>>167962283
This as as a regular summon so I couldn't do that. I see all kinds of shitty behaviour as a summon which is what made boss-invader co-op so amazing. You'd get a clear divide between good and bad players.

Nothing was more rewarding than having 4 players flail r1 and WA at you when you spawn in, only to easily escape and stalk them over the next period while they slowly died off and the host becomes increasingly hysterical and desperate only to eventually die from his own foolishness.

Maybe I've gone a little crazy from cynicism. I did meet a lot of great players via boss invasion, while standard summoning has acquainted me with more bad than good.

>>167962525
Don't forget Prince Lothric

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>>167962525
Not quite. Most, if not all of my successful invasions were done by luring the host into a mimic, or into Carthus' fire demon.
But then again, I was invading, and hosts are so bloodthirsty...

>>167962828
What the fuck.
Who does that shit?

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>>167962954

>going through the fly-ridden hellhole under the cathedral
>compulsively swat in front of my face whenever I hear their buzzing

Fuck this place

>>167962960
Some people are just shitty like that.

>>167962960
>What the fuck.
>Who does that shit?
There was a rumour back in DaS2 that you got less souls from a boss kill as a host if you brought summons with you. Hosts that bought into it would BC their phantoms before the victory confirmation to ensure they didn't get penalized.

Of course, there was no penalty, but souls players are notoriously gullible and this misinformation still persists

Can someone help me with nameless kangz? Platform is pc, password dsg

>>167963268
They could also just try to fight the boss on their own, or drop a sign and help someone to get more souls instead of being dicks.

Pyro here. I'm currently using CBV and Black Serpent in PVP. Also I got Profaned Flame equipped, but it's basically no use whatsoever to me. Any suggestions what else to use?

>>167963389

Black Flame or Fire Surge.

>>167963376
>They could also just try to fight the boss on their own
heaven forbid!

>>167963475
I know, too much to ask.

>>167963305
Yeah sure be right there.

>>167963376
>souls games
>being about anything other than schadenfreude

>>167960240
whats that guys name again in the video?

>>167962431
Looking good, but I would drop a bit of that END and put on ADP and VIT

>>167963305
>>167963518
My Sign is down next to the belfry bonfire.

>>167955782
>implying knowing what the dreg heaps are beforehand wouldn't add all the more impact to the kiln of the first flame

>>167955793
Weapon buffs scale with faith, yes. Use whatever other buffs you want, weapon one are the only scaling ones. Tears of denial is used by almost everyone for a reason, if you're looking for specific ones.

Do you need to kill Orbeck to get the Usurpation of Fire ending?

Also are Lothric weapons best on Quality builds?

Nioh is literally Casual Souls. It's Souls games with summons and no invasion system.

>>167963697
Thanks for the help

>>167964041
I loved nioh bloodstain system
Literally gravelording done right, next souls game should have it

>>167964041
It' ninja gaiden souls, it's a ninja gaiden game with some souls mechanics clumsily grafted on

>>167963892
No, you don't have to.
Everything is best on a quality build in das 3

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>>167963562
I suppose you have a point.

>>167963892
No, you can get his ashes after killing the Twin Princes, they're somewhere in the Grand Archives. Giving them to Yuria just nets you the Morion Blade

>>167963892
Just complete his quest. He'll die on his own.

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>>167963892
She's lying to you. Which should've been obvious, really.

>>167962828
Looks fun, I will try to do it for the dlc bosses
I wonder are people who complain about assholes being assholes never invaded anyone?

>>167964109
>next souls game
Anon...

>>167964427
She just doesn't want the new Lord to be a dirty magic user.

>>167964475
They patched boss invasions so you can't do the bug anymore.

You can drop a white-sign as a mound maker but people summon you for pvp, not co-op and you can't help on the boss.

>>167964486
Nest "dark fantasy" game that "won't disappoint fans expecations"
Whatever name will be, we can call it souls game

>>167964195
I like taking it to a bigger level, summon downscaled red friends and have them spawn kill whites.

>>167964563
I mean summoning phantoms and sent them back before they got their reward

>>167957332
>>167953910
We did it reddit!
I ended up cheesing him with purple flame shield and soul arrows. One day I will perhaps melee only that fucking faggot.

Seriously. Fuck that FPS-raping gotta-go-fast faggot.
Dragon God was a massive disappointment.

>>167964696
Oh. You're an edgy kid. Nevermind I guess.

'you were indicted'

What does it mean?

>>167964501
Then why does she sell sorceries?

>>167964815
>thanks for invading me
>please come again

>>167964501
>She just doesn't want the new Lord to be a dirty magic user
>sells five different sorceries and a book for miracles

I think she just wants the new Lord to be a very specific kind of magic user. She tells you to kill Orbeck and plays up the Morion Blade as a legendary sword meant specifically for you when it's actually mass produced and used by her agents, and the miracle book she sells will break Irina's mind and potentially lock you out of her non-dark miracles. But Yuria doesn't say anything about Corynx and Karla, which makes it look like she's fine with them.

>>167963268

That did happen in DaS2 though, at least with NPC summons. It was one way to have low SM for the Agape Ring.

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>This adds a whole new level of mockery

>>167964815
reported

>>167964848
So Yoel doesn't send her angry messages on steam.

What are the Do's and Don'ts when using CE for Dark Souls 3 to avoid getting banned?

>>167964815
It means darkmoons can now invade you if you're ever in a place that you can be invaded in. Which won't ever happen, because there aren't any darkmoons in DaS1.

>>167964931
>people actually spend souls just to pretend they're shitting on your corpse

>>167964876
That makes sense actually.

>>167958925

Dark Firelink was Gundyr arriving too late and getting empowered by the Abyss. The Firelink you start in is a world where he succeeded and shoved the sword into himself to preserve himself and act as a test for a time when the Ashen Ones will be needed. Whoever sent him knew he would be serving this purpose and designed his weapons and armor out of material that would last a long time.

>>167964949
But he's dead

>>167965068
>Dark Firelink was Gundyr arriving too late and getting empowered by the Abyss
Which is bullshit, because he's only empowered by the abyss in your firelink. He's pure in dark firelink.

>>167965139
he left her home covered in floor messages

>>167965016
I got invaded by a darkmoon in the painted world yesterday because of the sin I got killing shiva and his bodyguard, game's more alive than you'd think.

>>167965150
>Red eyes
>Pure

Yeah, just like the Abyss Watchers, the Pus of Man, the Deacons, and the Gravetender Greatwolf.

10/10 meme, love reading /dsg/ lore

Are there still anyone playing DaS1 online?
I went through the game a couple of months ago, saw some summons at undead burg and anal rodeo but only 1-2, and I got invaded twice in the are right before manus. Then I played through again a week ago and saw no summons and very few soap signs. Is the pvp rip?
I really really enjoyed invading/being summoned in the forest covenant, pvp in township against the same 2-3 people every time just isn't the same.

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>>167964876
Well Karla is a shard of Manus/sister of dark/ so that's pretty much Londor royalty.

>>167965373
Grab the connectivity mod, it really helps. The game is active but its netcode infrastructure spreads the playerbase very thin.

>>167965335
Greatwolf is just pissed off though

>>167965447
Yeah, I get invaded pretty much every time I go human, co-op is much harder to come by because the only people who need help with bosses anymore are terrified of going human and getting invaded. But there's a lot of pvp.

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>>167965456
Right, just like the Abyss Watchers, the Pus of Man, the Deacons, and Champion Gundyr. I'm sure <this singular instance of red eyes> is different than all the other ones.

>vilhelm does the arms crossed while standing gesture when you meet him
>hawkwood does the arms crossed while standing gesture at the end of his questline
>leonhard does the arms crossed while standing gesture in gwynevere's room at the end of his questline, but it's hard to see because he's invisible

Why can't we ever learn best gesture?

>>167965335
>glowing red eyes don't just imply the enemy is stronger or special in some way
>it has to be the abyss, that's the only explanation because a few of those enemies are abyss shit
>despite greatwolf showing no abyss traits
>despite that gundyr showing no abyss traits while the other did
>despite the one random corvian on road of sacrifices showing no abyss traits the others don't have
>despite some actual abyss enemies like the hand ogres only having normal eyes

Kind of an untenable position you've backed yourself into, yeah?

>>167964962

All scripts are safe since they don't change anything in your save file. You can item-swap everything but boss souls, key items, and covenant items (rewards are safe). I generally do that in offline mode but I think its safe to do it online. Don't change your attributes or name. I wouldn't even duplicate your save either.

>>167965429
And she probably wouldn't be too concerned with an old pyromancer near the end of his career

In DS1 is there any way to not be invaded while human? Like if you sit at the bonfire? Or is there only doing that once the boss is dead?

Unless I'm remembering wrong you had to go human to put down a co-op sign.

>>167965680
Eygon also has an arms crossed gesture when he goes to Firelink to check how his lady is doing.

I wish they'd give us some gestures in the final DLC. The ones that hold are the best.

>>167965712
Pyromancy uses the same stat spread, so she'd probably encourage it so the Dark Lord can practice before using real Dark shit.

>>167965736
No you don't have to be human to put down a sign, it's balanced so that if you need humanity you put down your sign to help someone with a boss you've already beaten, then take what they gave you to ho human and get help with the boss that's blocking you, with invasions as a risk factor for getting help.

>>167965736
If you get invaded while sitting at a bonfire it kicks you out of the menu and extinguishes the bonfire, so no.

>>167965817
>Eygon also has an arms crossed gesture when he goes to Firelink to check how his lady is doing

Forgot about that one.

Yeah, there's no reason why the player shouldn't have it too.

>>167965447
>>167965542
Oh nice, thanks! Then I might finally get some use out of my 25sl twink ng+ build

>>167965862
>>167965950
Thanks. Good to know.

>>167965950
God I hate this, I don't know how many times I'm trying to kindle a bonfire and then the second I go human I'm kicked out of it and I have to sit around and wait to deal with an invader. And if you die hope it doesn't happen again.

>>167965645
Well, there's also regular enemies with red eyes who are just stonger/more aggressive versions of said enemy.

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>>167965680
Greatwolf is chilling with all the Millwood and Farron followers and a fucking guy who's wearing a Darkwraith helmet, what do you mean "no abyss traits"?

>Gundyr isn't sitting in Dark Firelink
>Implying one mob being afflicted and others not means it's impossible for abyss corruption to be the case

???????

Abyss Watcher's fight makes it clear as day, Champion Gundyr and the Pus of Man make it retarded to argue against, yet still here you are saying dumb shit like "Greatwolf has no abyss traits :(("

It's alright to have literally no grasp on the story anon, just make sure you stay far the fuck away from where actual lore discussion takes place

There's a thread on the front page of the DS3 subreddit right now about how Ciaran is Hawkwood's mom, you'll be happier there

>>167965840
Along with some pyromancies dealing with Dark, she would likely encourage learning from Cornyx and Karla

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>>167966025
>being invaded
>DaS1

Things that never happened.

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>>167965736
>Unless I'm remembering wrong you had to go human to put down a co-op sign
Co-op signs can be hollow. Red phantom items are the only ones that require the player to be human.

>>167966025
Yesterday I was doing shit in Lost Izalith, sat at the bonfire, it kicks me out and extinguishes the fire. I stand and wait, never get an invasion message and the bonfire re-lights.

>>167966025
DS2 was awful for that. You could get invaded while hollow and while sitting at the bonfire. It meant you'd have to teleport to Firelink more frequently to avoid getting killed if you had to step away for a minute.

Most of the times I invaded it was a hollow afk player at the bonfire.

>>167964962
dont item swap slabs

don't be a microdick cheater

>>167965016
>people actually spend souls just to pretend they're shitting on your corpse
>50 souls a piece
get off this board you scrub

>>167964109
>Literally gravelording done right
can you see the dude get fucked by your vengeful wraith or whatever edgy shit it's supposed to be? do you get to invade alongside it? does it keep respawning? no?

>>167966131
It happens quite a bit if you're SL is around 100-150.

It's kind of annoying at times too because you'd think the game would be dead but instead some guy in Channeller's robe and a father mask invades you and you have to remove all your armor, equip the ninja-flip ring and go deal with them.

>>167965016

I just spawn in 600 lmao

>>167966058
>it's infected by the abyss!
>lol it just breaths ice now
That's some pretty dark shit there, bro.

>ignoring the other examples I gave
>ignoring the fact that several abyss enemies don't have glowing red eyes

I get it anon, you thought you had a cool idea but forgot to check it against all the information first. It happens to the best of us.

Also, neither of the watchers had red eyes in the cutscene, implying it's just a gameplay mechanic to let the player know something different is going on.

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FUCK MAN

>>167964236
thank you

>>167966412
Someone has discovered the fun house for the first time it seems.

>>167966085
Corynx refuses to teach anything dark to the player. Which is funny, because he's perfectly fine with demon magic. Yuria is the only dark teacher in the game.

>>167966412
lmao nice shield, cuck

>>167966496
>Yuria
Meant Karla. Who looks and acts exactly like Yuria from Demon's Souls.

>>167966476
please

i have no estus

where is the bonfire...

>>167966559
call me a cuck again and i'll fucking slay you

>>167966634
You're very close, keep going up, then look for a drop near an explosion

>>167966634
>bonfire
Go jump off a cliff.

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>>167966412
>darker than the ghetto

Why arent you using dsfix

>>167966721
dsfix doesn't have anything to do with brightness settings
>he doesn't play on low brightness for high atmosphere

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Waaait a moment. They have no Faith-scaling infusions in DSII? How the hell am I supposed to beat things to death with a divine mace?
HOW THE HELL DOES A FAITH CHARACTER DEALS DAMAGE IN THIS GAME?

>>167966607
Maybe even old heretical magic users like Cornyx have standards. With some of the pyromancies, he simply can't teach them and wouldn't even if he could. Yuria would encourage learning from Karla, and would likely remain indifferent to learning from Cornyx. And if you're diving into the Dark pyromancies, you're probably going into the regular ones

>>167966681
>>167966713
I fucked up the pendulum

and got shot at by a snake

back to the beginning
>>167966721
why would you ruin the atmosphere

>>167966797
Lightning is faith scaling you dingus.

>>167966797
Lightning is DaS2's faith-scaling infusion.

>>167966283
So I should just give myself an +10 weapon instead of getting the upgrade materials?

>>167966797
Lightning blade and drakeblood greatsword

>>167966797
faith goes zappy zap

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>>167966841
>>167966829
>>167966925
>>167966931
Ah, alright, crisis averted
Many thanks.

>>167962828
why he do dis?

>>167966634
Real talk that shield is very bad, it's worse than a basic heater shield in every way and by this point in the game you should have access to some far far far better ones. It's a good "I'm not sure what I'm doing" marker on your character.

>>167966412
It took me forever to get through the fun house. Eventually I did that part naked in belief I'd go faster.

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I'm fucking bored.

>>167949764
Is PvP in Dark Souls still popular. If so what are level range is the meta. Is ng+ where its at or just ng.

>>167966962
Also note that you can buy extra stacks of offensive miracles from the Blue Sentinel guy once you join his covenant.

Even in its nerfed state, 2 has by far the best faith pve in the series. Heavenly Thunder is strong and spammable and you can get multiple scrolls of it very early for loads of casts.

Just note that Emit Force is a direct upgrade over the base Lightning Spear, but there are 3 scrolls of GLS you can acquire per playthrough, offsetting their individually low number of casts.

>killed Vilhelm
>got to Priscilla's arena
>killed that Pyromancer grapist
>jumping off from Priscilla's kills you
>nowhere to go from there
>Painter is back in the Chapel and wants me to show her flame
>Friede has nothing further to add

Where the fuck do I go?

>>167964876

She's corrupting everyone but Orbeck can't be corrupted because he's a scholar and would likely see through her tricks with all his knowledge. He was probably getting too close to uncovering her plot and became a threat, so she had you kill him.

>>167966797
>lightening is amazing and the bolts rape multiple bosses
>FROM doesn't like that and nerfts the spells into uselessness
that was a bad patch notes

>>167967245
NG+ doesn't change anything, "official" pvp meta is 120, you'll find a lot of people around 60 to 90 though, the typical endgame level range.

>>167967253
Keep looking around the area near the Painter, eventually you'll find a cave with flies and a lever

>>167967253
time to explore the fly basement buddy