/wfg/ - Warframe General

literal who prime

frogbutt

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>>167902232
thx
https://my.mixtape.moe/qusywc.mp3

>>167903563
Oh look. A competent OP. Thanks

>>167903563
Why do they feel the need to retroactively ruin things?

>When I don't need argon I get 20 without even trying
>When I need 1 I can't get any no matter how hard I try
Fuck this shitty resource

Does the new sentinel's beam weapon have a max range? Can you throw it on diriga and get a 60m freezebeam or is it 30m max?

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>>167904297
>Wanting to give Missrigia a gun

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how the hell do i get this? don't think i can get it by going around either.

What are the special snowflake female frames besides Zephyr (she is just too awful)

I just know I see a lot of Ember, Saryn, Valkyr, and Nova

>>167904297
targeting range is based on the sentinel itself and its attack precept, accuracy is another matter

>>167904936
Mesa

>>167904610
Go back into the main room and under a set of stairs. There's an air vent.

>>167904297
I'll tell you in 19 hours

>>167904936
I think they called Equinox female. No one plays banshee but prepare to see lots of primes running around. Ivara is special. Nyx can be fun tank.

When are they going to give Mesa the Ash treatment? Her ksing is such bullshit

>>167904936
Depends on what you mean by snowflake.

>>167905579
>warframe
>killstealing
why are you complaining about a public service

>Went AFK during a syndicate exterminate
>Come back and most of the enemies are dead

Good job, Jew sniper squad.

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>>167905579

>>167905687
Standing around with nothing to do because someone picked an aimbot frame really isnt fun. It's why people AFK when you pick Mesa, Ember of S-Mirage.

>>167905579
you have your priorities wrong.

>>167905936
afk on over to the abort button then

>>167906570
Nah, just do enough to avoid AFK detection so you still get the rewards for the mission.

I'm farily new and don't have all the colors I've been using the conclave glitch and now its not working did they patch it?

>>167906673
This is me. Thanks for doing the labor while I do more productive things.

>>167906770
Also I'm on Xbox One

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Well, this is a first.

>>167906770
conclave glitch? Don't know what that is.

Apparently you can favorite the operator skin tones and use them on warframes, that's a lot of nice tans and whites for golds etc.

>>167904936

>Zephyr
>awful

MR5 detected.

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>>167905936
>Lucifer upset about Mesa
Big surprise.

>accidentally claim item from foundry
>DE staff say that if that happens just contact support and they'll refund the components
>contact support
>wait six weeks due to Christmas/NYE rush
>support's response is "no fuck you"

>>167906981
Was there a damaged one?

>>167907775
No. See all the 5 upgrade slots under each one? That means they aren't damaged.

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>>167907719
>Accidentally sold my ether dagger bp while short on credits
>dont realize its removed form the game
>now my weapon collection is doomed
>send a ticker
>get bp back and now have ether daggers
They are useless but pretty as hell.

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>>167903563
>use explosive rounds on Hek
>enemies disappear after getting shot

>>167907921
>tfw ether daggers have been godawful since their introduction
They weren't even very good for coptering.

>>167908026
>use acid shells on sobek
>enemies and their friends evaporate

pretty much the same thing.

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THE COLLARBONES HHHNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>>167907921

I've accidentally claimed other stuff and never given a shit but this was for a Djinn, which I was saving in case it becomes a build requirement for something else (I have a pre-constructed copy of everything that isn't a Prime already for this) and didn't want to waste another 2 Forma and 6 Mutagen Masses rebuilding.

They really need a "are you sure you want to claim /build this" feature in the foundry.

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>>167908320
>They really need a "are you sure you want to claim /build this" feature in the foundry.
There already is one.

>>167907114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y_eA4M9p8M

>>167908240
Looks ugly as hell.

Does multishot work with Mesa's peacemaker?

>>167908240
the only problem with graxx nyx is her butt area isn't as good as graxx ember

>parkour rooms in derelict don't have any of the mods
Well, that was a timewaste

>>167908467

Build, yes. Claim as well, no.

>>167908747

Yes.

Build for crit and multishot, it's why Mesa players use things like the Lex P, Vaykor Marelok or Vasto P.

>>167908747
yes, everything that's not weapon specific, ADS like shadow debt, and no puncthrough.

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>>167908751
what about the ass that goes with these hips

>>167909031
>Mesa players use things like the Lex P, Vaykor Marelok or Vasto P.
I didn't know Mesa players used those guns. I've just been using Aksomati

>>167908747
>>167909150
Uniquely the dual toxocyst buff does work with peacemakers but otherwise weapon augments, rivens, and shadow debt shit doesn't work.

But all normal damage, elements, firerate, and multishot besides that works.

>>167906673
Which is exactly what any normal person would do.
Why aren't you thanking your carry so that you didn't have to do anything?

>>167909289
I see that space AIDS, you can't hide it.

>>167909826
Because most people want to actually do something.

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:564716

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What do you guys do to make your frashionframe screenshots look good?

>>167908240
Were you on Akkad earlier? I think I saw you, or someone else using this exact look.

>>167909694
Aksomati is a crit gun, dummy

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>>167910752
white background

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1djjxtTLuBU

>kill Lephantis
>get Stalker email
So does the Stalker just personally watch over bosses and act on his own to attack you when he notices them being taken out, or do people hire him? Is Lephantis using email?

>>167910958
Okay, and?

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>>167910752
>180 str
>115 range
>not max eff
>negative dur

>>167910958
That means you're fine.

>>167911186
Focus grinding and experimenting with Corrupted mods. My Corrupted mods are leveled with another frame in mind so Frost is in kind of a weird in-between.

>>167911364
meant to reply to >>167911043

>>167911186
>duration mattering on globespam

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>notice this guy for the first time
>assume he's part of the scenery and not able to be interacted with like the corpses
>shoot experimentally and blow his top half across the room
O-oh. Well, I probably saved him from a slow, drawn-out death, right?

>>167911649
>what is avalanche

typical frost shitter

>>167911740
It's great CC, but that dude's stats seemed optimized for spamming snoglobes.

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>>167911718

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>Mot Axi Survival
>two Lokis and Cloudwalker Wukong
I should have just left right off. I think that was the worst round I've ever played in this game.

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>>167910234
>>167906673
>>167905936

>>167911836
>optimized for spamming snoglobes.

and that's what makes him part of the 95% of frost players - complete mouthbreathing shitters with zero understanding of game mechanics


it doesn't even have max range and eff, and probably not chilling globe either

>>167911864
Yeah Infested lore is pretty fucked up.

Deadspace Warframe spinoff where you play as a corpus crewman off to fix a remote mining base when
>grates everywhere
>goes dark
>Infested screaming in the background
>ITA POOT POOTYEAH

>>167911991
Would you calm down? I'd never take that build to a sortie or a level 50+, I was just bored while running Invasions and wanted Avalanche to kill rather than freeze en masse for Focus purposes. And for the record, I do have Chilling Globe.

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>>167910968
I dont care for this at all. I prefer my cluttered with decoration look. How else am I gonna show off all my decor

>>167908240
This looks pretty aesthetic.

>>167912215
>tfw first unlock eris
>those tight, cramped spaces
>the violins screeching
>constant infested screams and meaty noises
Kind of wish they played up the body horror and existential crisis horror aspects up in this game, there's a lot of opportunity.

>>167908240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7bmXywWus8

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>"You have been lockdown"
>Corridor with no panic button

>>167912384
the problem is people with even worse builds bring them to sorties on a regular basis

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>finish LoR
>"Connection to the host has been lost. Returning to main menu."

>>167906673
>>167905936
>tfw no Assassination mission where the Lotus sends you back in time with a brick to beat Lucifer to death

I hate that the Prime Access tiers leap from 80 to 140, nearly double the price. Will the syndana come with the $80 pack or the $140 pack? I've only bought Fire & Ice before.

>>167912587
Too bad the eris music is just obnoxious to hear with how unthreatening they are to players.

>>167912640
Hold on, those exist?

>>167913252
Back to the Jack.

>>167913281
They're with the most expensive pack. Have fun, goy. Also it's $150.

>>167913586
Oh, wait it's $150. Guess you just saved $10 from what I said :^)

>>167911990
AFKing and not reviving them even when you are not AFK is not doing everything the same. It is the next step. Considering how triggered they seem to be getting, it seems to be working.

>>167913252
You're not Alexander!

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>>167913586
>$150

But you couldve just looked it up

>>167913768
>I'm going to try justifying my leeching because I dislike [frames]
You're operating on a pretty low scale of morality, senpai

>>167913798
>$380 value
I don't know what's worse. DE's jewery or the possibility that there are people dumb enough to fall for that.

>>167913986
wonder how they even calculate that.

>always like the prime access accessory pack
>never can justify the money to spend on it
Shame I can't buy it with plat.

>>167914042
i wanted the 10o suit but i'm not paying $50 for it. if they just get rid of the useless boosters and sell accessories for $20 i'd have been a willing goy but nope.

>>167904443
missigno?

>>167913860
Morales are relative. If you don't like it you are free to leave, and I will handle it properly.

I actually had a S. Mirage die like 3 times before rage quitting because I would not babysit her ass as Vauban in a tier 3 eximus sortie interception.

After she rage quit, I held down her point as well as mine and did a better job of it too. If that player had more than two brain cells he would have just blinded them, but the players in question have never even thought about thinking for themselves.

They just spam the same shit and expect others to cover their asses. When we don't they lose their shit. So I would say it is pretty effective.

>>167914146
>sell accessories for $20
Ditto, but DE are retards.

>>167914146
It's pretty damn frustrating. I really liked the 10o suit, would maybe get the ship skin, but fuck, they just gotta throw in a billion other things to force you to spend far more.

>>167905391
>>167903685
Hey, the other 20 Banshee mains and I are happy with her getting a Prime.

>>167913986
I'm seriously considering buying the $80 Prime Pack because I need plat anyway and it's nice to get stuff with nogrind sometimes, especially with all its respective slots (and I can afford it). But man, I just can't justify the $140 one.

>>167907921
Wait, there's no way to get the Ether Daggers again? I sold them off while grinding weapons for MR a long, long time ago.

Kind of miffed now that I look at the stats and the daggers do have the most slash damage. Oh well. I don't use twin daggers anyway.

>>167914213
Morals = Morale
If you dislike the frames that are simply DESTROYING YOUR FUN, why not leave yourself? Why are you entitled to the fruits of anothers' effort?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Kohlberg's_stages_of_moral_development
is what I'm referring to, which is not relative.

>>167914382
Whoops, Morals =/= Morale, even.

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>>167913798
>>167913986
FTFY

>>167914791
i dont trust that picture, too many 1s and 0s

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1-10 how good is this

>>167914382
>Why are you entitled to the fruits of anothers' effort?

Because they haven't left. Morals are relative, and I never mentioned morale.

As for your link, I operate at stage 6.

>>167914893
really good

>>167914791
I've seen a weirdly high number of those primed loading screens doing pub missions. I feel like less of a tool for owning the prisma variant, now, however.

>>167915107
people actually fall for the ($3471 value!) meme

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>>167914954
>I operate at stage 6
"Although Kohlberg insisted that stage six exists, he found it difficult to identify individuals who consistently operated at that level."
"Decisions are not reached hypothetically in a conditional way but rather categorically in an absolute way, as in the philosophy of Immanuel Kant.[18] This involves an individual imagining what they would do in another’s shoes, if they believed what that other person imagines to be true.[19] The resulting consensus is the action taken. In this way action is never a means but always an end in itself; the individual acts because it is right, and not because it avoids punishment, is in their best interest, expected, legal, or previously agreed upon."

Fuck, you're a conceited/delusional person.

>>167911991
Am I wrong or doesn't freezing enemies make them immune to status entirely? Wouldn't that just get really annoying?

>>167915290
the name didn't tip you off?

>>167914954
By the metric of that stage and your own admission, refusing to play the objective because you dislike frames is entirely self-serving (and not putting yourself in their shoes), and therefore not Stage 6.

>>167915303
Freezing enemies makes them immune to status procs, but freezing enemies already inflicted by a status proc will extend its status duration until the enemy thaws

>>167915303
Depends on what you're doing.

>>167915373
psh.... nice name.... kid..............

>>167914791
80$ for the frame ? Like, 80 US Dollars ? And you're telling me people buy this ?

>>167915558
Some people are really retarded with their money.

>>167915558
Yes, and because [DE] are literal mouth breathing retards who can't into micro transations, it is their biggest money maker and keeps the game afloat.

They have a fucking golden goose and have successfully used the least viable way of separating shekel from rabboni

>>167915558
Yes. And a majority of them just sit in the relay all day on Mercury to show off to others that they wasted money.

>>167915290
Yeah, I made a typo.

>The post-conventional level, also known as the principled level, is marked by a growing realization that individuals are separate entities from society, and that the individual’s own perspective may take precedence over society’s view; individuals may disobey rules inconsistent with their own principles. Post-conventional moralists live by their own ethical principles

Describes me to a T.

You know I don't use the Simulor, WoF, Etc, either, based on principle, right?

>>167915392
I am putting myself in everyone's shoes. The conclusion is that they care only about doing the most damage or fast clears regardless of how it effects the rest of the team. As such, the only morale action is to refuse to be party to their transgression.

>>167915729
In reality, this is a clear example of egocentrism, wherein you project yourself/your believes onto everyone else; since surely they must see everything the way you do. To see it any other way would prove your argument null.

You're operating in a clear pre-conventional level. Which, I guess, for a guy such as yourself, it's not really surprising.

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>>167915729
How does it smell, up there in your colon?

No seriously, I am inclined to believe that you arent meming,I feel bad for those around you.

>>167915876
Beliefs. Fuck, I'm on a role with these typos tonight.

>>167915881
>>167915876
Us triplords are the most empathetic, humble, and self-aware posters on 4Chan.... You best not mess with us unless you want to have a bad time....

What would it be like if they made it so that bullet jumps require a charge up time spent holding crouch+jump but increased ground movement speed globally by about 20-25%? Also no more bullet jumps in midair, instead you can only do it if you attach to a wall and charge from there.

The longer the jump is charged the further it will go, up to being faster and further than the current bullet jump. If it is not charged to the minimum threshold the 10o will just do a regular jump but it will go a little further and higher than normal. For ground movement speeds the increase applies to everything including moving while attacking in melee and rolls, though with the latter the recovery time is increased to prevent it from being the next "spam this to go fast" move. Sprinting will be fast enough to be a less finger intensive travel activity that is just as quick overall.

>baby first sentinel
>daw
>new skins
>atleast they fixed phorid

yeah DE can go fuck itself. this is 100% intentional.

morning and shit.

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>>167916014
>the ultimate meme lords

>>167915729
Also I'm convinced you're intentionally using Morale in place of the world moral.

>>167915729
>The conclusion is that they care only about doing the most damage or fast clears regardless of how it effects the rest of the team
No, people want to clear with the least amount of effort for everyone, you fucking dipshit.

>>167916049
got a naramon lens********

this is why im upset^

fuck me im so mad i forgot to mention why

if you use a trip kill yourself

>>167915881
Like roses, why?

>>167915876
False, though you seem to be doing an awfully lot of projecting right now.

There is plenty of evidence of them just not caring about how others feel. It's not that they don't understand it. They know and simply don't care.

>>167916002
Ironic considering the hell you gave me for one.

>>167916043
It would just slow down the game for no benefit.

>>167916162
Yet they always chose the frame that will show the most damage deal under their own names and never a support frame, such as a battery Trin.

>>167916043
>what if we nerf the ability to go up but make land travel faster
just re-implement coptering+air melee instead, it improves the variety of melee weapons used and gives people a reason to bring a melee weapon that doesn't deal massive damage

>>167916314
Too bad DE hates coptering for some reason.

>>167912587

Infested areas would be so much better if they were Doom 3-tier dark. Like, the concept art is pretty spoopy compared to the actual tiles.

Also if they weren't all so shitty and EZ-mode.

>>167915685
>>167915689
>>167915694
Fuck, I wanted to be a good goyim for her since I'm back after a long hiatus, but I forgot how long DE's nose is.
I still have trouble processing it's eighty fucking dollars, since the only time I bought plat was with a -75% and it wasn't that expensive in my memory.

>>167916278
Nothing ironic about admitting you made a typo; as opposed to what you're doing, stating you never made one when you clearly did.

>It would just slow down the game for no benefit
As would not using certain frames on certain missions, shocking.

>Always pick the frame that shows the most damage and never battery trin
that sounds like a rather dumb assumption, especially considering I (and I'm sure many others) have both EV trin and use Ember/Mesa/Mirage.

I'm not projecting by calling out your egocentrism; nor did I ever claim I operated on such a high morality stage (which you did). I have no delusions about my place on the scale, I usually operate on stage 4, and sometimes stage 3.

Where is the best place to farm polymer bundles?

>>167916278
>and never a support frame, such as a battery Trin
Wow it's almost like playing EV not only relies on having an ally with a mass aoe clear frame, but takes far more effort than holding down LMB on mesa or pressing 4 on banshee.
What part of this do you not get?

>>167916278
I usually play Inaros or Nekros, but sometimes I bring Mesa or Excalibur Prime because I just want to kill things with my magical swords or guns.
Everything isn't about dick-waving contests, you know.

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>>167916314
>it improves the variety of melee weapons used

It does literally the exact opposite. You tell me why I would ever choose anything over the fucking Tipedo or Dual Zoren when we had coptereing and Ill call you a fucking liar. The fact that I can bring ANY melee weapon currently and NOT lose any speed improves weapon variety.

>>167916043
this sounds like taking steps backwards simply to validate the existence of things like shitty old parkour 1.0 tiles, doesn't actually address the purported issues of high number or complexity of inputs relative to traversal speed (something DE claimed to be attempting to fix by removing coptering and adding in the maneuevers we have now)

>>167916314
>>167916415
it was just a bug all along, same as multishot not consuming extra ammo or allowing for stealth kills :^)

but really, we already have the melee variety problem back again, anyone who actually cares to go fast always has a telos boltace on for the passive

>>167917156
>when we had coptering
That's the difference, now we can actually have melee weapons that can deal damage. Now bringing a melee weapon isn't a horrible idea, especially with naramon. If they re-implemented coptering we'd have the option of bringing a copter melee or a damage one.

>>167916602
>As would not using certain frames on certain missions, shocking.
Are you actively trying to miss the point?

I always operate on my own moral code. I am sorry if you took a few weeks of philosophy 101 and misunderstand something based on a short excerpt from wikipedia, of all places, but that is neither my concern nor responsibility.

>>167916890
I was exaggerating to make a point. There are obviously a minority that plays other things, but I was talking about the majority of players, especially in public matches.

It's not unlike the infamous Frost in the comic that is constantly posted in these threads (. . . who are you to tell me . . . ).

The Frost in that comic knows exactly how the other people on his team feel, and simply doesn't care. He chooses to do as he wishes regardless and expects them to carry him when he mucks it all up.

To make the best moral choice, you have to see the situation from everyone's perspective and their motivations for said perspectives. When their perspectives are self-serving to the detriment of all others, as is the case with the Frost, the only real choice is to abstain from assisting them.

>>167917156
>>167917362
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Telos_Boltace#Notes
DE is nothing if not consistent about being full of shit and going back on their word or stated intentions

>>167917370
>Frost
>Bubbles can get in the way, generally slows down the mission, restricts movement/angles/prevents people from doing damage/shooting at that spot
>Ember/Mesa
>Kills things from afar, LIKELY expediting the mission.

Any more poor equivalencies?

>>167914893

Stats are OK. Weapon is unpopular.

Keep it if you like the Phage, but it's a Phage Riven so even if you can get a really good roll, you probably won't be able to sell it for much.

>>167917547
>continues to miss the point by massive margins

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>>167917362
>2 options are somehow better than the multiple options we have currently

I really hate that docking bay extraction point on Ceres.

3/4 times, there is a syndicate medal on the other side of it, so you gotta bullet jump around the extraction to reach em.

>>167917637
Your argument boils down to:
It's okay to do something that is wrong if I don't like the other group.

>>167905579
She already had "Ash" treatment, she was capable to shoot EVERYWHERE, not just in the direction you look at the moment and not without reducing her FOV

>>167917910
No, that is just a strawman, and isn't even close to the argument I presented.

>>167917370
The fallacy with your "moral" proposition here is that:
If everyone wants the game to be as hard as possible on them, then you would fail the mission.
If everyone wants the game to be as easy as possible on them, then everyone can be happy, since one person can bring mesa/banshit/whatever while everyone else AFKs.
The problem with your proposed system is that it cannot be applied universally. In any other game, making the game harder on purpose would be called "griefing".

>>167918029
It's hardly a strawman. You're advocating leeching/afking because you dislike those frames.
You refuse to contribute because of some mental hang-up.

Can you get the index sigil anymore? I've beaten prodman twice and still don't have it.

>>167916278
>It would just slow down the game for no benefit.
You would be moving faster in all other actions than bullet jumping.

>>167916314
>>167917342
>doesn't actually address the purported issues of high number or complexity of inputs relative to traversal speed
1. activate toggle sprint in options (permanent toggle or temporary COD style checkboxes)
2. press sprint
3. go pretend to be a hedgehog

How is this not reducing the number of button presses? The one thing I really hate about Parkour 2.0 is having to spam BJ -> somersault -> roll in order to get anywhere in a reasonable timeframe for most frames. Also the fact that following this movement rhythm is almost as braindead as the way Miragulors "play" the game. BJing around bottomless pits and jumping puzzles is fine and requires some level of genuine skill, that I am fine with and that is something the proposed charge system would allow, just have to keep the charge time in the range of 1 to 1.5 seconds at max (min BJ threshold at 0.6~0.8 seconds?). Volt and Nezha are the only two exceptions in the entire game who go faster by sticking to the ground.

Telos Boltace spam is also another real annoying thing. I think I have a new past time trying to find people who can spam their macros the fastest out of them all. Some people literally do not touch WASD and only do Telos Slideattacks everywhere they go, it is honestly amazing to watch.

>>167918058
This just proves you lack the ability to understand concepts at a level deeper than their face value.

>>167918121
No, I am advocating not participating in moral injustices, especially when the responsible party understands that they are harming the other members of the social group yet chose to persist in actions because of the personal gains.

>>167916278
>It would just slow down the game for no benefit.
Says the guy who complains about people wanting to kill efficiently

>>167918379
>You would be moving faster in all other actions than bullet jumping.
Except, it would still be slower overall, less interactive, and offers no benefits to the player base.

>>167918426
>still missing the point

>>167918391
>This just proves you lack the ability to understand concepts at a level deeper than their face value.
No, this proves that you have no idea how to make a moral system that is self-consistent.

How about this:
>People who want to play efficiently can do so normally
>People who want to do everything themselves can play solo or play with like-minded individuals

>>167918489
>>still missing the point
Then what the fuck IS your point? You don't seem to be making one.

The only thing close to a point is "different people might have different goals as to playstyle" to which the answer is "there's nothing forcing those people to play together". It's like saying a Chinese restaurant doesn't cater to the needs of people looking for Mexican food. It's not their job, because nobody is forcing people who want tacos to go to the chinese place.

>>167918379
>How is this not reducing the number of button presses?
it is, but it's also heavily reducing the actual effective traversal speed and reducing the overall effective speed of the game - you seem to think any sort of reasonable sprint speed would be a replacement for the linear aerial mobility options afforded by oldschool coptering+airmelee or the variable arcs possible with bullet jumping and shit

I won't defend the way parkour 2.0 works and what we have to do to go fast now, because in most (not all) ways it's a downgrade from coptering, but at least we CAN go fast by chaining together these stupid maneuvers

>trying to find people who can spam their macros
the slide attack does nothing for your mobility, just having it equipped is all it takes - besides that it's hilarious being told "nice script" or "wow turn off the macro" just because I'm pressing ctrl+e when I see a group of enemies and someone literally can't wrap their head around being able to press keys at any moderately high speed with any consistency

Is Baro actually coming or I just got memed

>>167918745
bruh just look at the navigation map, or deathsnacks.com/wf/, or the forums, or etc etc

>>167918745
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Baro_Ki'Teer

>>167918795
anyone datamine his current sale list yet?

>>167918641
The point was never speed. The point was always how it affected the other people in your squad.

Ruining momentum slows the game down with no benefit to anyone.

Not using WoF Ember, barely effecs clear times, but vastly improves the experience for everyone in your squad.

>>167918982
>vastly improves the experience for everyone in your squad
you're trying to speak authoritatively on the behalf of everyone, but I'd argue that you are ill-equipped to do so and are demonstrating the inability to truly think outside your own perspective

while I've certainly run into some who don't appreciate it and see it is negatively trivializing the game or being "anti-fun", I know that myself and many of the people with whom I play are almost always grateful to see someone contributing to the rapid and efficient clearing of a mission, especially if it means we have to do less work, and at worst will be slightly anally tingled over their out-performing ourselves when intending to fill that role and will seek to improve our own builds or playstyles to try and compete with them

>>167918982

>I am the entire warframe community and I (we) have an exponentially improved experience running around and chasing down stragglers in random parts of the map in a trivial mission that most people don't give two fucks about and have done hundreds of times.

And I was wondering why people didn't like you at first.

>>167919549
>2017
>literally failing the app
B L A C K L I S T E D

>>167919549
Blacklisted

>>167919286
No, I am speaking for the majority of players based on logical thinking and all evidence I have had available to me.

>demonstrating the inability to truly think outside your own perspective
Again, you are projecting. You have no way of knowing what information I have been exposed to, and rather than asking, you instead chose to project onto me.


>I know that myself and many of the people with whom I play
Again, that is you and people that think like you. To be honest my personal feelings lie along this same vein, but that isn't the topic we are discussing. We are discussing what is moral, and that is not taking part in an action that is morally unjust, even if we stand to personally benefit from it.

The lines vary person to person, but I think the most just cut off are avoiding use of or supporting anything that is basically auto-aim and high return for little to no effort (e.g. Simulor + Mirage, Mesa, Ember).

This, obviously, doesn't apply to pre-made groups where everyone has agreed to a certain strategy.

>>167918710
>just because I'm pressing ctrl+e
Yes, that's because you're pressing crouch+melee. You don't seem to get some people do nothing but scatter particles everywhere about 4 to 5 times a second and nothing else for literally the entire fight.

>>167918979
Primed Streamline, Prisma Gorgon, Prisma Liset, Boosters.

>>167919604
>>167919698
You're right, I fucked up. I'll try again another time, maybe.

>>167920030
>prisma gorgon
Every time I see this I think I should just get the MR fodder over with, and then I look at the price and just don't want to hammer out that many ducats for the bestest bullshit minigun.

>doing glast gambit
>get to the part where glast bets all his shit
>click on quest
>takes me nowhere
>index just gives me the usual index stuff like endurance and high risk
The hell is going on.

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>>167919762
>Again, you are projecting.
>We are discussing what is moral
you know what, that was my first response to you, and that was clearly a mistake on my part

you truly are the cancer, and I'm sure you'll be quite relieved the next time DE nerfs some paltry "meta" thing because enough forumbabbies bitch about it loudly and frequently enough, but I guess at least you're not TQ

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>Opens thread
>Literally 90% of the post are hidden

>>167920661
The only things that I think should be reworked are low skill, high reward weapons and abilities that are basically auto-aim kills, e.g., World on Fire, Peacemaker, simulor.

>>167920835
yer a big dumbo

>>167920812
yep triptards at it again

why did this general have to contract double cancer

triple cancer if you count the retard ruining the porn threads

>finally get all the alloy for kot incubator because wasn't around for when they dropped like nanospores apparently
Are kots worth it?

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This is Taxon.

Say something nice about it.

>>167920835
but WoF stops being anything but a shitty CC past level 40 lol

>survival without killing anyone riven
I was gonna put off leveling my ivara, guess I can't now

>>167921469
Its free and new

>>167921469
It's weapon is slightly better than the glaxion, so there's that.

>>167921469
it might be good if the shield heal isn't complete garbage
might be nice with chroma instead of waiting 60s for guardian
weapon might be cool if it beams based on precept range and isn't 30m max

>>167921476
And the vast majority of mission are below that and Embers rush to extraction once their crutches stop working.

>>167905010
Correct. However, no weapons before now have been things that ever have limited range in any form.

Beam weapons on the other hand at times do have limited range. Not targeting range, but the length of the gun. May or may not be an issue.

so I just got Ember and I've never used her before, still leveling her up. I got the prime version but im not sure how much that matters.

Anyway, I still need to get the Growing Power mod, but i wanna know if this build is retarded before I do it
Right now I'm using the Twin Basolk, with growing power along with the status procs I should be good right?

>>167912426
how do you get ember ass poster

>>167909694
Honestly crit isn't necessarily the best on Mesa, I've tested crit vs raw elemental before. Raw elemental actually can do higher numbers.

Ultimately anything except using a bunch of dual stats is optimal enough.

>>167911740
>what is avalanche

Something that's pretty nice to spam with high strength instead of using to freeze, I like negative duration for it. So long as you have energy it nukes like a champ, still not LoS limited like other shit.

>>167921928
The extra power isn't going to make Ember useful for anything above level 40-ish.

Just focus on duration and efficiency and use her for low level exterminations.

>>167921469
Why isn't it spelled Taxxon?

>>167921823
good point, tracedistance is apparently 30 - I believe this equates to 30m effective range on the beam, so diriga might be very silly trying to hit things twice as far away as it could reach? if it can even try with a limited range like that, but that lines up with taxon's attack precept range

also for some reason the artax is referred to as a sentinel gremlin

>>167921469
It's not Dethcube.

>>167921743
do you play with randoms or something?

Someone got a spare Ash Systems to trade or gift? I just got the Chassis and Neuroptics but I'm not having luck with that part

>>167908026
>>167908170
Oh no, dude, it's not the same at all. Of you mod hek into blast status, enemies will REALLY instantly disappear right after being shot. They're flying away so fast you cannot even see it and for you it would look like their model had just been disabled at all. And only sometimes on really big open maps you might see small point in the sky quickly moving away from you. That's completely different feeling, that feeling from different slow elemental disintegration.

>>167920030
>primed streamline
Shit, now I gotta forma everything again, after I legendary core it.

Related:
>People complain about farming endo
>Start from fusion cores with 30k endo
>go from 8-10 on 6 separate mods, think it puts me at 20k, 0-max a bunch of new shit (none of them r10)
>check my mods recently
>90k endo
What the fuck?
Was I at 300k and didn't realize it or is endo just that plentiful?

>>167921469
It's styled so perfectly like an X mark so that people know not to use it, I appreciate that.

>>167922701
If you move the mouse and press M1 you can make WoF work for you up to the end of the star map.

He didn't even post his build but I sure hope he has Energy Conversion in it.

I don't really trade much, maxed Primed Streamline is going to be worth a fuckton on plat in a few weeks right?

>>167923224
>Shit, now I gotta forma everything again, after I legendary core it.
It maxes at 35%.

>>167923298
They literally said it's supposed to be babies first companion and you wonder why it sucks.

>>167923224
I'm skeptical, Streamline's actually been in the files for years just chilling there.

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>>167910752
Max out the grfx, have a high resolution, beyond that I don't know.

>>167923317
WoF isn't doing the work.

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>>167923361
>35%
>1% more per extra leve
you're shitting me, right?
>>167923395
I don't wonder why it sucks. He said to say something nice about it, and I did.

>>167923471
we've had the name from the language strings since way early on, and DE got so butthurt over it that we're never getting it (or prisma brakk)

>>167923361
there's little more than placeholder template info on the mod, same as there ever was, but if it got released tomorrow it would have the same base value as streamline and thus max out at 55%

>>167923361
I thought it was 55%?

>>167923915
Thought supposedly it was "to throw us off" in the first place?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was them getting mad about dataminers, but 50/50.

>>167923915
We are talking about the guys that up out Primed Pressure Point.

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Streamline
>It has an unreleased Primed version that increases power efficiency up to 55%
Everything else is just a garbage now until tomorrow.

I like the new braton sound.

>They remodeled the starter weapons

But why?

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So, I completely forgot that Baro was coming today. I have a credit booster from the Sortie.

Where do I farm credits? I'm literally down to below 10k because I was upgrading 2 syndicates and mods.

>>167924729
could do akkad with a fast nova would be 40k+ with your booster

>>167924729
(Index 25 points)

>>167924729
Hieracon, Pluto. Do one excavator and extract. A little over 24k for each run without a booster.

>>167924831

Index is really not that good for money-making though. The return-profit is really underwhelming for the amount of annoyance.

>>167924729
Index is by far and away the fastest credits you can make.

>>167924907
>150k profit every 7-10m~
>bad
I guess?

>>167924907
You have to gear up specifically for it, is all. Especially solo. Whereas Hieracon is piss easy with any frame, even solo.

>joined a syndacate to get some of the items
>do some missions and alerts
>get invaded by something
>mission goes from 0 to 100 real fucking quick
>my entire team gets wiped
>everyone is mad
>google what the fuck just happened
>"death squad"

how do i fix this
can i leave the syndicates entirely?

so when are we ever going to get an update to the camera controls for decent screenshots instead of always being so limited and fucked by the angle

>>167924907
With a credit booster I can pop off the 50 point bet by myself within about 7min, 5 if I try really hard at giving the enemy points by dying right next to their goal.

So that's 270k every 7 min or about 2mill every hour by myself. Just as good if not better than the pre-nerf lecta. It's becomes no contest if you can find a decent 4man team.

>>167925150
No you cant, you are fucked

>Invasion Defense
>Invasion Defense
>Invasion Mobile Defense
Please refrain

>>167925150
hahahaha, what squad was it?

>>167925363
>Gotta do about 30 minutes worth of ingame time
>For one mutagen mass

>>167925281
>>167925379
how do i fix it!!

if i join the ones mad at me and earn them points and then remove the sigils will everyone stay neutral?

>>167925150
>Entire team got wiped by a syndicate group

I'll refrain judgement until you tell me what syndicate did you in.

>>167925463
Might just afk Ember them, I guess?

>>167925479
Nope. Technically you can waste a shitload of time to balance reputation, so no one would be mad at you, but that's just waste of time.

>>167925479
>>167925281 is yanking your chain.
Yeah, you can get them back to neutral, but why bother? Death Squads are a fun diversion and aren't incredibly difficult, and bring them up will lower your rep with the syndicate you're currently with.

Just always carry at least one rank 30 weapon with you when you go on missions you know will be good against that particular death squad, if you're so worried about it. It's not like the death squad changes, so you can prepare in the unlikely case they do show up.

>>167923586
I like your background.

>/wfg/ members stopped making posts about alertium
depressing.
There's one up, though.
along with two neural sensors, if you're really new

>Got a soma riven
>Ammosize,Multi and fire rate.


Should i keep rerolling or sell it for 900p?

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>>167925150
>Doing Kuva flood
>fucking Gustrag show up
>Kuva guardians are still alive
>still get the kuva and kill the gustrag

>>167925865
>g3
>problem
You do know, warframe powers can cc them like any normal mob?

>>167925273

Wait, what? Do you do the endurance, or what?

>>167926052
I did not, and apparently neither did my teammates.
It was fun to have a shootout with level 100 Gustrags though.

>>167926079
I've head good things about Index Endurance with Fatal Teleport Covert Lethality Ash.

Can't be arsed to farm up Fatal Teleport however

>>167926190
They sell fatal teleport for like 10-15 plat on the market. And trust me Ash is one of the best for the index, though never have more than one Ash.

>>167926079
Endurance, I personally just go Inaros with Vaykor Hek but any tank frame usually works for me, I've had similar results with Chroma, Rhino, and Loki.

You just need a frame that can consistently stay out for long periods of time even with lower hp. I get 10 points and then turn it in so I have the +4 bonus.

>The Raptor/Hyena/Bursa/Hoverskate team in Index
Just fuck my shit up

>>167926720
Worst one to deal with absolutely but also they are the shittiest about turning in points so you have more time than usual to collect and turn in yours.

>>167926894
>shittiest at turning in points
So I have to afk even longer at the end

Hek with justice or Vaykor hek?

>>167926983
Yup. But I'd rather afk for a few more mins and actually get the credit reward than have them kick my ass and knock me around like a ragdoll just to deny me the reward as well.

>>167926894
Idk man that hyena burns rubber as soon as he holds 1 point.

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>braton finally has a magazine
>the model is exactly as shown, it doesn't actually extend into the gun
>when reloading it appears in the gun once finished instead of actually being reloaded
It's no lex prime but it's better than the vast majority of guns, I guess.

>>167927050
If only there were a tool that allowed you to mathematically compare the two.

>>167927050
Depends on that you want. If you need burst damage, hek is better. If you need constant damage, vaykor is better.

>"screw" is censored in chat

>Allied specter runs behind me when I'm stealthed and I get sniped with 18 points next to my turn-in
>Enemy grabs half, turns in, 12s left
>Allied Specter grabs all the rest, and then just runs in circles
>can't turn in anything and lose
It's hilarious every time it happens. The AI is so inconsistent.

>>167928436
stop cursing american

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>>167928712

>Still have default carrier and wyrm
>have mats and no ranks in wyrm p, djinn, the grineer sentinel, and the new sentinel
I'll obviously ditch the new one after using it for MR, but what other one should I toss djin or the balloon? it's not like I need anything but carrier P and occasionally helios.

>>167928943
I really like Shade

>>167928974
I have prisma shade, who I also like, but not enough to keep using over my Sentifu, vacuum being a default mod or not.

>>167929041
Toss Djinn, though. Thing is awful.

>use zhuge in some fissure
>get 30 rifle kills challenge
>same thing in the next fissure mission
>cant get rifle kills for the challenge
wut

>>167929517
It's a bow.

>>167929836
should have made it clearer that i got the 30 kills in the first mission, but couldnt get any in the second

>Join regular Kuva w/ Taxon
>Spawn
>Taxon Dead before I can shoot a bullet

I guess he really is meant for new players

>>167904137
just farm T4 survival in the void and wait for Vor, kill him and extract, he either drops 1 argon or 1 orokin cell

>>167930103
>get them used to their Sentinel being dead for 95% of the mission early on
Ayy good bandaid DE.

>>167930103
>any sentinel
>not dying in a mission with enemies that aoe spam
what did you expect

>>167930205

But they gave us Primed Regen. I thought that was supposed to fix it. All hail DE.

Why does my Tigris seem so much worse than my bf's Hek?

>>167930276
>Your sentinel now lasts 33 seconds at max rank primed regen
GOD BLESS, THEY'VE FIXED IT THIS TIME.

>>167930221
You don't understand, it was a laggy match join. You know those matches were it takes 5 seconds to activate 5.

>>167930292

because it is. Hek is actually an end game viable weapon because Scattered Justice is a strong as fuck mod. It lets Hek compete with it's syndicate counterpart. Tigris is just a downgrade of it's prime and syndicate counterpart.

>>167930624
>Tigris is just a downgrade of it's prime and syndicate counterpart
Will it be okay when I get the Tigris Prime?

>>167930665
Tigris Prime is the strongest shotgun in the game, so yes.

>farmed up 7m credits in the last two days
Index isn't too bad

>>167930665

Tigris prime is dope. Only bad thing is compared to the Hek / Vay Hek, it's gotta reload more often, but Chilling Reload somewhat alleviates that issue and it hits like a truck. The Heks are also puncture based compared to the Tigris' mostly slash based damage. If you've been noticing it perform less effectively, the type of enemy you've been fighting might also be a contributing factor. Puncture is stronger on armor than slash damage is. Overall it stops mattering a lot less once you mod for the appropriate element. That being said, Tigris prime is an MR 13 weapon so...yeah have fun with that.

>>167930665

The basic Tigris is a fucking beast and is end-game viable all by itself.

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Huh

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>>167931247

>>167931247
Forget about that shit. Where are the leaked Helios Prime screenshots?

>>167931247
SHIT

Why does anyone run pilfering swarm it dudu and fucking annoying to play with. He's the ember of loot frames only he sucks.

>>167931247
>just in time for her to be replaced by the superior sound frame

>>167903563
What's syndicate should I join, i just started?

>>167931776
the 3 on left or the 3 on the right.

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>>167931576
I know I saw one but can't find it now. Have the accessories instead.

>>167931853
>that cape
>internally called izvara prime
what the fuck that's nothing like the izvara, that's clearly the igaro

>>167931247
Is that a Pyrana prime?

>>167931853
So she still has her shoulder spike, but it looks like it's kind of ghostly and phases in only on occasion, like that one chest armor

>>167931853
The prime access syndana are unobtainable without spending dosh right?

>larunda chat is shitposting about tits, ass, and the early middle aged

>>167932416
yes. everything under prime accessories is unobtainable without real money.

>>167932334
That's what people keep saying. The internal name is PrimeHShotgun, so it's likely a secondary, just like Pyrana.

>>167932648
My only problem with drakgoon is the pellets falling down under gravity and not being hitscan.

Maybe if I lag enough players and bouncy confetti mirage, DE will improve it.

How can there be a Helios Prime when it was designed by the Corpus?

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>>167932838
>questioning profit

>>167932838
Sentinels were covertly retconned into being Old War relics found floating in the Kuiper Belt or some dumb shit.

>>167932648
If it really is the primed version of the Pyrana statwise, then I'm glad I held off on potatoing it.

>>167932838
Two possible explanations.

One, it wasn't actually designed by the corpus. Just reverse engineered and simplified. Two, it was designed by the ancient smugglers and profiteers that would become the Corpus like the Detron was. The Orokin took it and improved it.

>>167932838
All sentinels are babby-tier sentients/ultimately orokin tech

Simaris had some Helios sentinels of his own.

Heliocore Prime when?

>>167932963
>heliocor prime
>it's even worse than the synoid version

>>167932963
Cephalons are made by the Corpus, though. Or it was implied they are, way back when. So there's still a loophole.

>>167933008
>Synoid Version exists and is worse than base Heliocore
>shiggy

>>167933081
There's no way Robo Hebrews invented the basis for the technology that created legitimate synthetic consciousness. Orokangs did this, even if DE says so. They are wrong.

>>167933294
They made robots intelligent enough to rebell

>got a boltor riven
>rolled it until i got some critical stuff on it
>sold for 200p even though boltor has shit critical chance
mmmMMmmmm

>>167933352
Recovered tech from orokangs.

>>167933441
Or stolen from them. The Corpus predate the fall of the Orokin.

>>167933435
Pubs only see crits, crits is all that matters, crit is life, I bet they even build Tigris prime for crit.

>>167933494
Or that yes

>>167933541
Its all about them red numbers, got to have most kills and most damage done anything else is trash tier

I bet Banshee will get cucked out of a Prime again.

I hope the new prime secondary is good, I love the look of it.

>ruining someone else's fun for ruining their fun
>except your fun has nothing to do with efficiency and only to do with you getting a chance to kill enemies

I guess I am on 4chan.

>>167903563

I have 332 platinum.

What do I buy?

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>>167934406
>not playing for fun
Then again fun for me is peacemakering everything so whatever.

>>167934723
Stuff to sell for more plat than you bought it.

>>167934723
Become fabulous with syndanas and armor bits, or spend it on rivens like a tard.

>>167934784

I got this by running through relics and selling off shit.

>>167934821

Most looks tacky as fuck.

>>167935080
>1 new post
I know, you find the ones that are not tacky, or you go purposefully gaudy.

>Primed Streamline
Would literally make tons of builds viable without battery EV/Arcane Pulse. 'Sick'. When the nerfs will come?

>Primed Streamline
muh soundquake

>>167920812
all the fun you are missing.

>>167935112

I wanted to pimp out my Nekros Prime, but no matter what you do he has those terrible arm wings.

>>167935619
Same problem with Mesa, her arm things always get in the way, as do the ammo things on her legs when sheathing weapons.

>>167935156
>>167935228
Where the fucks this comin from?

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Is this okay for a flight build until I forma?

Also I might build for Lantern to make her good at CC, I should pretty much just do max range then right?

>>167935619
Naberus and gazal shoulders both fit nekrop perfectly

>>167935156
>>167935228
???

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reroll? or good? i dont really know what im looking for in a boltor riven/what i can sacrifice

>>167936148
Boltor.. pure damage right.