/gerg/ - Giant Extreme Robots General

>>167899638

>It gets Hot in the Cockpit Edition

oh hell yeah

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>>167899638
First for shit discussions & bumps from page 10 every 10 minutes

>how do you want your skilltree piggy sama?
>just quirk my shit up

Heat dissipation's somehow real fucked in pts.
Everythings so fucking hot.

Crits are fucky in PTS.
Supposedly you've got 20% more structure with skilltree but AC's and pepsi crit like motherfuckers.

>>167900254
nth for some namefag no one knows posting retarded shit no one cares about

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>>167901041
Really made me think

Why would anyone keep playing MWO after the mechwarrior game gets released?

Why would anyone keep playing MWO after the heavy gear game gets released?

Why would anyone keep playing MWO after the battletech game gets released?

please stop

Why would anyone keep playing MWO after the Dual Gear game gets released?

Is the Highlander IIC a good clam assault or should I go for something expensive like the gargoyle or the executioner?

>>167901943
Hi there!

>>167902093
It's reasonably tanky but playing slow assaults is usually suffering. Also the jumpjets are a trap.

>>167902093
ask the 13 FPS LRM highlander anon

>>167902093
Don't buy any of those, buy a Battlemaster or a Kodiak

Do not buy other Assaults
Buy a Kodiak or a Battlemaster

Head or Tails on whether or not Piggy will cram in the DOA skill tree despite criticism?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHFCAjB6-DI

>>167902941
they're almost certainly gonna cram it in

no way they fix it fast enough nor do they care enough to fix it and they're not gonna backpedal on the resources put into the shitty UI and make it wasted work

>>167903063
Fucking pig UI. Why did they remove the garage view copeid for world of tanks and added this sitty submenu shit that is slow as hell to use.

>>167902093
All the clan assaults are horrible (almost all IS assaults are too)
Yes even the Kodiak, now it's just plain painful to play with the nonexistant torso twist and unquirked barn door torsos. All clan assaults that aren't the Kodiak are full on gimmic shitmech territory, though.

Atlas is still stronk for bullying but painful to play if it can't

Direwolf is memey if you want to put a ton of ballistics and spam people to death.

tell me about the piggy

why is it so incompetent?

Why would anyone want to play mech games when real mechs are released?

wanna talk about machinecraft

>>167904951
what the hell is that

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>>167899638
>dat ass
saved
>>167900141
toasting space waifu bread

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>>167904972
it's a game where you can build anything including mechs

>>167902240
>>167902545
>>167902674
>>167904321
Well if they are all shit, what mech is there to grab deal? Or is the best mech not to play at all?

>>167905752
>>>/egg/

>no melee weapons
>can't punch people's cockpits

>>167906256
Timmy Wolf
Niggyr
Ebin
Strongcrow
Ark Tick Cheetah

>>167906256
get the summoner

>>167907305
Summoner is literal shit without the loyalty nipples.

get the mad dog and fall in love with the splat

>>167907816
Griffin and Splatcrow are both better deals

>>167908291
GAAAAAAAAAY

>>167909260
get the catapult and fall in love with the splat

>>167909293
>Catapult over Mad Dog

dumg SPHERETARD

>>167909352
>not liking the sexiest of missileboats

GAAAAAAAAAY

PUSSY SHITS

"muh stronkcrow" fags on here are way behind the fucking curve.

>>167909664
>implying stronkcrow won't be even more stronk when the skill tree turd gets shit out

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I want to make my own mech.

wanna hear a joke

MAV

>tfw no genetically perfect trueborn gf

>tfw no mechanically perfect manmade mechgf

>>167910742
>implying skilltree fixes low cockpit, fuckhugeness, atrocious hitboxes and the unability to shield those awful hitboxes due to the CT sticking out like a sore thumb

>>167911768
still better than any other medium

>>167911823
The point is that it isn't.
Not even in the clam only department
>HBK-IIC
>nova
way better mechs nowadays.

>>167912082

better at being SHIT you fagnigger

>>167912082
No way in hell Nova is better than Pulsecrow, drop tonnage nerfed for a reason lad

>>167912185
Take your beloved shitcrow mechfu and get back to tier 4, shitter.

>>167912317
you can't even drop anyone to tier 5 if you played against them stop posting fuccboi

>>167912452
Get to tier 1 first fuccboi and stop posting yout trashcrow propaganda.

what game does /gerg/ play and where can i play with you guys :3>>167912452

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>>167911616
>>167911667

>tfw doublefeel

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night /gerg/

Will any mech claw itself out of the shitmech status when the skill tree comes out?
I have a few that might
>Jagermech
>Trebuchet
>Jenner IIC
>Firestarter
Cant see the assaults going anywhere though, asides from the kodiak 3 and maybe balistic whale

>>167912845
The only Mechs that will are boats that needed a little more structure.

>>167913076
So the kintaro might be good again?

is the marauder a shitmech

>>167913827
Torso is huge and arms have little HP. Still pretty sweet thingy.

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How do you like your Atlas?

>most weapon placements are made to have three guns in them.
>game punishes you for shooting three at the same time.

>>167914328
Makes me remind the days of closed beta where the game consisted of lurm atlases and catapults shooting at each other with the occasional awesome here and there.

post your zooses

i need zoose builds people, no XL side deletion builds pls. STD only

>>167914919
Wait for MRMs.

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How do you like you King Crab?

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>>167914919
>STD on a Zoose

>>167915547
xl zoose is asking to DELETE because the side t's are so flat and wide no amount of twisting / spreading can save you for long. that's why you always use std. xl zoose is suicide


>>167915425
yes, i'm sure it'll be only another 3 years before the 3060 techbases are implemented. after all, they promised us SOON (TM)(R)(C)

XL on an assault is retarded
>muh saves tonnage
>biggest weight class

>muh speed
>slowest weight class

>wahh I can only mount 4 LPLs
like seriously nigger?

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>>167903632
It was their vision.

>>167916892
>add third person
>cant twist arms and back hides 80% of screen

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>>167914328
>How do you like your Atlas?

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>>167916080
>xl zoose is suicide
either you've never played the zoose before, or you're just bad at the game and can't into torso twisting fundamentals or this is bait

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>>167917101
But it made it so much easier for new players to tell which way their legs are facing.

>>167917397
Tbh, why dont they add a compass like in battlefied to show where your legs are oriented.

>>167917578
>Tbh, why dont they add a compass like in battlefied to show where your legs are oriented.
You mean the orientation help on the minimap or the assist arrow you can toggle in options?

>>167917619
Neither of those things existed prior to 3PP.

>>167917738
My oldest pic with cockpits goes back only to november of 2013 which is after the 3rd person patch but I can find articles dated january of 2013 which talk of the minimap torso/leg indicators before the 3PP.
Take your cavington.

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>>167901030
They altered the component health across the board as a core balance mechanic. It's listed as the first item in general balance changes that might be getting overlooked with the focus on the skill trees.

https://mwomercs.com/news/2017/02/1714-skill-tree-public-test-session#balance

there is nothing more fun and cheeky than being in a locust and picking rear torsos

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>>167905297
It's time to post A Time of Warfus.

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>>167919379

>>167919037

>i liek to buttram enemy mechs so they cannot move or turn and then shoot them to death with my 0 skill dickheadery because abusing piggies shitty collission code is totally a skill

no, fuck you.

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>>167919478

>>167919531
t. rear-CT pained kodiak

STOP VOTING FOR THE FUCKING COLD MAPS THEY HAVE THE WORST FUCKING DESIGN

>>167919662

i can do it too

>t. light who thinks buttramming doesn't make them scum cancer that needs perma ip-range banning for ever and ever.

>>167919737
I exclusively vote for cold escorts.

>>167919737
potatoes will never not vote

>arctic
>polar
>polar
>frozen
>arctic
>frozen

>arctic
>polar
>polar
>frozen
>arctic
>frozen
>arctic
>polar
>polar
>frozen
>arctic
>frozen

they refuse to learn to manage heat. ever.

>>167919860
Forgetting Grim Plexus and HPG Manifold are also preferred but apparently are less obvious as cold maps from a lack of snow.

>>167919964
well, yea those, but solo play is full of potatoes who refuse to ever vote for a not-snow map so it's really noticable.

>particularly after the tenth snow map in a row session.
>for the 5th time in a month

Someone explain me why the fuck do XL engines cost more than a mech.

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>tfw you killed three enemy assaults by rear CT buttrape

heeheheheheheh

>>167920229
"Balance".

>>167920229
lore

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>>167920149
>like tourmaline
>often vote for it if it shows up
>get potatoes mad while actualy playing a decent map unlike terra therma for example

Also fuck piggy for rigging map occurrence, I am fed the fuck up with crimson, polar, frozen, river and plexus long range fuckery 24/7.

>>167920721
>>167920860
Is that one of the three mechs you need to play for mastery is 60% more expensive than the other two part of this balance too?

>>167920875
yea the prevalence for the choices being

>did you bring your ERLL vomit?
or
>did you bring your pepsi goose?
or
>what, you didn't bring your boated ac2's?
or
>hahaha wow, you're bringing weapons for less than 600 m?

is kinda annoying too.

What's a good mech for lasers + autocannons? fizz boom

>>167920275
>being buttcored in a LOLcust
Wew lad

>>167921076
nothing really. there's like ONE whale build for lasering and ac's.

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>>167921035
>brawling is overall worst, albeit funcional, archetype
>rig map occurrence in such a way that it benefits the strongest, long range, archetype
>rigging maps in the first place

>>167921076
Marauder.
Catafat
Timbit Dog

>>167921076
>>167921735
Marauder 3R and Cataphract 1X, both running AC20 and 4MPL

Wrecks shit

>>167921732
brawling actually does a fucktonne more dmg than range builds.

the only reason range builds work is because the new/changed maps with the rigged occurence makes every damn match wide open snipefests of retardedness.

>because everyone IRL chooses to go fight out in the open with 0 cover all the time instead of house to house cityfighting CQB/CQC
>that's why IRL navies are totally dominated by battleships and all naval combat is still all bludgeoning matches of ships with big ass guns trading broadsides with each other from miles away

OH WAIT, no they don't.

>>167920229
Turns out safe and robust nuclear fusion is pretty hard and robot limbs are actually kinda straightforward.

>open supplycache
>get a fucking right leg of some shitmech

Who the fuck thought that prizes like this would make gamblers buy more keys?

>>167922409
oink

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>>167922185
>brawling does more dmg than range builds
No shit, if it weren't the case brawling would be dead compleatly.
Mid-long range builds were preferable even before the map rigging.
They were better overall for an overwhelming majority of the games lifespan.
Exeption would be ye olden days of lagshield for example.

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>>167907037
Hi There!

bamp

>A clan 55 medium mech costs more than a 90t clan assault
What gives? Why is it so expensive for clan shit

>>167925176
Clans typically come with upgraded tech like endo/ferro/doubleheatsinks and engines. The costs even out once you upgrade shitty NiggerSphere mechs.

>>167925176
In tabletop Clan tech is objectively superior to Inner Sphere as well as harder to obtain for availability so has a higher battle value and C-bill cost. MWO keeps the price disparity between the tech bases while nerfing the Clans to some rough semblance of gameplay balance, but still failing in doing that. The only way the tabletop managed to do so over time was to give the Inner Sphere so much new and varied tech that the Clan equipment became stagnant by comparison, but by the most recent timeline in the 3150 era the Clan tech also expanded and now official Mech units are commonly built with mixtech anyway so as to make the whole thing a moot point.

MechWarrior 6 under a new developer really needs to break out in to the post FedCom civil war era and cover some timeframe between 3067-3150 to finally purge the Clan invasion imbalance from even being part of the game.

>>167926004
He asked why a 55 ton clan mech costs more than a 90 ton clan mech

>>167925176
>>167926392
Because a Huelander IIC doesn't come with Endo or a big XL engine.

>>167926392
clearly the stormcrow is balanced by its cbills cost

>>167926334
Except MW5 (and technically also Battletech™) effectively purges the Clan threat by placing it firmly in the 3rd Succession War with no chance of ever seeing clamtech.

Republic and Dark Age games would still be almost purely Clan tech equipment because most of the useful IS tech that is really exclusive either is based around melee or does things that don't translate into our typical videogame format (eg. VDNI cockpits). Clan stuff is still better and their rotaries are insane.

>>167926334
>>167927093
Although this is more of a topic for /btg/, were the jihad and the dark age a mistake?
The leader of my mwo unit says that its a disaster for the storyline and didnt make sense at all.
Though he is a clan loving babby and wished that the clans won the entire war

>>167927475
The jihad was a clusterfuck of stupidity, though it gave the world the Word of Blake (lol durka durka blake akbar memes).

Dark Age tried to cater to the inbred nigger semen loving grognards that want the game stuck in 3025 permanently by introducing the same predicament and attempting to equalize tech.

Surprise surprise, the grognard faggots didn't like dark age because it wasn't their precious "MUH 3025!"

>>167927475
The reason why those two time frames are hated byalot of the tabletop people is the real life issues when they came out.

Jihad came out after somewhat succesful and popular Clan Invasions (which was btw hated by the eternal 3025 grognards) and the problem was that the main enemies on that time frame, Word of Blake came out as this almost asllseeing force of nature that nuked and mass murdered alot of earlier factions and units, which pissed off people royally.

It also lasted somewhat around 10 years in real time due to Battletech bouncing from one company to another and people got tired of it.

Dark Ages was attempt to advance the timeline and get away from the bad rep Jihad had got, but it was plagued yet again by real life issues and to outside viewer seemed somewhat half-assed attempt to revert shit back to 3025-3050s techwise, but also keeping the Clans as playble faction.

>>167927475
>>167928924

The pandering to 3025 cockgobblers in battletech is so prevalent in fact, that, it's hobbled timeline advancement almost completely.

After the Dark Age, there was supposed to be a new age where the inner sphere basically got split into two areas - the inner circle where you could play 3025 type campaigns, and the outer circle where you could play the whole expanded ruleset shebang by introducing Word of Blakes last "fuck you infidels, we're out", their version of Skynet that keeps anyone from leaving the inner circle with automated warships and orbital defense platforms and restricting Hyperspace Pulse Generator access. People from the outside could come in, but wouldn't be able to go out anymore, and would drop into Mad Max territory. The old great houses would be within the inner circle, and the territory left in the outer circle would form entirely new factions.

There was also supposed to be second invasion of the Clan Homeworlds, where Clan Star Adder would get hit pretty hard and shift from "unity by cooperation" to "PEACE THROUGH POWER, KERENSKY LIVES!" This were to spark a new era called ilClan, where the homeworld clans renewed crusade would actually manage to drive towards Terra, smashing through the Word of Blakes skynet gift, re-uniting the devastated and resource scarce inner circle with the flourishing outer circle, with Clans getting a humongous fucking fit of autistic screeching for everyone in the inner sphere for letting Earth get to such a state (Earth would pretty much be post apocalyptic hellhole).

>>167929232
Instead of advancing the storyline, Catalyst Game Labs (who are nothing short of corrupt, greedy motherfuckers that do not deserve battletech to begin with, but that's another issue entirely) looked at the autistic screeching the 3025 niggerfuckers were doing, whining about "MUH FACTION CANT LOSE, MUH FACTION CANNOT BE DEVASTATED! THAS NOT FAIR ME NOT GONNA BUY BUTTHOLETECH PRODUKS!" so they've now instead decided to just focus on the Fourth Succession War era (3025) entirely and some even earlier eras.

And that's how battletech is in the situation it is in. Eternally stuck in one era like 40k, where any and all advancement plans have been frozen indefinitely to pander to an old, ever decreasing fanbase who would rather drag the game down into hell with them rather than let it improve and evolve.

Every MW game has been about Clans, is it so bad to have one without them?

>>167929660
>every MW game
Hello, mechwarrior 1, Crescent Hawks Inception and Pirate Moon called. They all were in agreement that you are a humongous faggot.

MW2 and MW4 mercenaries, as well as MW4 vengeance and black knight also chimed in to say you suck dicks.

Though there were clan mechs and a small amount of clan representation in some of these games, they were by no means "about" the clans.

So go suck off a nigger, faggot.

>>167927093
>no chance of ever seeing clamtech
I highly doubt that both companies will pass on a chance of selling clam dlc.

MUH MADCAT

>>167929950
I mostly meant Clan tech.
Why are you so upset?

>>167927093
PGI has said that MW5 mercenaries campaign will stretch over several decades. From 3025 to 3050, so you WILL see clans.

>>167929950
>pirates moon
>the awesome voice acting
>that one fucking rowdy lancemate
>"Love you too, Epona! *mwah* Wide hips an' all!"

That fucking guy knows how to appreciate the feminine form

CRASHING THIS DROPSHIP

WITH NO SURVIVORS

Is "get the Karasawa beam rifle in AC1 and use only that weapon" some kind of meme?
>50 ammo
>needs 6 or so shots for taking down the red AC in the protect the train mission even if you use the additional part that increases energy weapons' power

>>167931465
Karasawa rapes everything from AC1 to AC2AA. It was nerfed in AC3 and on but it's still a great weapon in all of those.

The FINGER is amazing too. Both of them have monstrous fire rates, and the Karasawa does tons of damage.

>>167932023
I get that the Karasawa has very good single shot damage but when it comes to potential damage overall the other beam rifle (XC4) has more potential damage. I also find myself much more confortable with the pulse SMGs as those seem to be able to stunlock ACs and MTs AND allow me to mount lighter, faster legs.

>>167932595
Also I forgot, the fact that you can have only one AC is super fucking annoying. What game introduced the possibility of having multiple ACs?

>>167932595
The Karasawa will end all AC fights quicker than anything else, the 50 ammo is plenty for all difficult missions.

>>167932730
I don't remember. AC2? Might have been one of the AC1 sequels.

>>167929392
>Eternally stuck in one era like 40k
But 40k's story has advanced with the eldar shit + cadia falling + rowboat poopyman[/spoiler returning

>>167932827
Yeah, imagine that. Where battletech boasted over 40k that its timeline actually advanced, now it's the one stuck in one era perpetually while 40k is moving the story forward.

Oh the tables have turned, and its all because of old basement dwelling sweaty nerds who can't handle it.

>>167930168
3049, so no Clans proper. Even if we stretch it into the beginning days of the invasion they are "post final boss" tier at most where you are intended to lose the battle as it fades to credits, though it depends on whether the player can access Star League tech by the end of the campaign or not. Remember that MW5 is meant to be singleplayer only.

>>167912845
>Will any mech claw itself out of the shitmech status when the skill tree comes out?
Executioner with structure, armor, quirked c-spls

>>167932781
>The Karasawa will end all AC fights quicker than anything else
Does it really? Considering the garbage rate of fire even with the optional part that increases it and the fact that it's really unwieldy that seems debatable.

>50 ammo is plenty for all difficult missions.
I'm pretty sure that there are missions where there are way more than 50 enemies, so. But really, it seems to be good only for heavy builds, unless you're a faggot that uses PLUS.

>Might have been one of the AC1 sequels.
Oh god I hope so. I also hope that Project Phantasma and Master of Arena still allow you to rebind the controls.

>>167934474
Every AC game lets you fully rebind all controls.

>>167927093
>firmly in the 3rd Succession War with no chance of ever seeing clamtech.

Good, not everything has to be about powercreep

>>167934572
Not the PS2 ones.

>>167934626
b-but muh timby wolfie :(((

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>>167934634
The ones that start having dual analogs might only give you an option, it's been ages since I played LR on PS2 instead of PSP/Vita, but the earlier PS2 titles definitely do.

>>167934941
Weird, I clearly remember having dropped AC2 because it still had the garbage controls and no in game option for rebinding it. And also because I wasn't aware that you can save PCSX2 binds in files AND have multiple keys assigned to the same bind (so that you can navigate the menus via keyboard).

>>167933125
>This were to spark a new era called ilClan, where the homeworld clans renewed crusade would actually manage to drive towards Terra, smashing through the Word of Blakes skynet gift, re-uniting the devastated and resource scarce inner circle with the flourishing outer circle, with Clans getting a humongous fucking fit of autistic screeching for everyone in the inner sphere for letting Earth get to such a state (Earth would pretty much be post apocalyptic hellhole).

that would have been badass

>>167933125

i'm hoping for a clan expansion/DLC because Clan Jade Falcon is my favorite faction, but i'm looking forward to a single player 3025 game since that would be a new experience for me, the mechwarrior games being my only real experience with battletech aside from reading sarna

>>167934626
this

strategy games should be about strategy and making what you have work, instead of seeking wunderwaffe as some magical solution

>>167935139
Oh well AC2 does allow me to rebind shit. Good.

Nearly everything I've heard about the new skill tree has been putting me off.

>>167939462
Clan shitassaults will benefit from the skilltree more than from the current skills and modules, I'm fine with this.

>>167939462
Of course, it affects every build there is and people hate change so they are complaining.

>>167940175

does that mean i can finally buy the gargoyle ive always wanted guilt/regret free?

>>167940175
>Clan shitassaults will benefit from the skilltree more than from the current skills and modules, I'm fine with this.

For the lower chassis and single weapon boating, yeah.

But remember, they're losing torso twist speed bonus. If you actually are retarded enough to full ham on the upper chassis tree, you will only get 4% extra torso twist speed. That's 1% less than in the current system.

So as a result, dire wolves are getting even SLOWER than before.

Have fun with that shit.

>>167941413
The lower torso tree's accel/decel and turn rate are way stronger than the ones in the current system, so it'll even out.

>>167941413
Kodiaks that aren't the 3 will also get notably worse, completely unable to torso twist now.

>>167941309
Hahaha, no.

Everyone is universally getting a 5% reduction in heat capacity, and a 5% reduction in heat dissipation.

On top of this, people will get 10-15% more armor, and 15-25% more structure.

This means that your laser vomit will take forever to kill a target, and your ammo dependent builds will only have enough ammo to kill one enemy mech.

HAVE FUN WITH THAT NIGGER SHIT.

>>167939462
>>167941413

wait, does this totally fuck up the incredible acceleration, deceleration, and turn rate quirks Linebackers get that keep them from being total garbage? do they not get a bajillion allotment slots to get those back?

>>167941634
Only if you have access to a huge engine rating.

Since that bonus is percentage based, anything with a higher value gets even better while those with lower value barely feel the difference.

>>167941748
Thanks, it's pretty universally agreed upon that the TTK in MWO has been too low for a long time now.

>>167929232
>>167929392

What so is that the reason they've been on this retrotech and Age of War prototype Mech and weapons kick lately, to perpetually stew in the 3025 and earlier era?

>muh radar derp, now I can't have any weapon skillz!
but arent lurmies going to have to invest heavily into something shitty just to get target decay?

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>>167941845
Linebackers get to keep their initial quirks, and with the bonuses from skill tree on top of that, Linebackers now move like medium mechs (fitting for their shit firepower).

Dire Wolves get to turn faster and waddle up hills slightly more safely, but you're fucked if you think you're going to torso twist in this thing.

>>167941934
Well, maybe if you're an incompetent whore that runs ass first into a group of opponents.

Against a single opponent, time to kill is as fine as it can be. Simply giving people more hitpoints to chew through and making guns shoot slower and have not enough ammo just makes the game boring and rewards bad players who run themselves into firing lines.

If you want shit to last forever, play a turn based strategy game with hitpoints.

>>167942236
It takes less investment to get 2.1 seconds of extra target decay as well as 40% radar deprivation for an LRM boat than it takes for you to get the full Radar deprivation bonus. Takes 9 skill points to get 40% radar dep and 2.1sec extra target decay time, while it takes 17 points to get 100% radar deprivation.

And since that 100% radar deprivation only reduces the base targeting decay, you'll still have an extra 2 seconds of targeting time as an LRM boat.

>>167941986
Yeah.

They're stuck in 2500-3025 eras because the most vocal part of the community, the old faggot grognards, have chased out everyone else who doesn't agree with them and now CGL thinks this is the only way they'll get to make more money for the CEO to steal out of the company bank accounts from.

It's like MWO never getting mechbay customization, a tech update or even clans, and being forever stuck in stock mech mode.

>>167943429

this is good news for the linebacker but that radar dep sucks

*autistic screeching*

>>167944265
who?

>>167944343
/gerg/

>>167941309
Definitely. Everyone has added structure but individual things have significantly less health so your laser vomit will crit out ballistic and missile based builds easily.

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>>167946612
>lower item health means ammo now blows up regularly
>yfw you can get at their delicious gooey centers

Is AC5 Battlemaster okay or should I just get the Mauler for maximum dakka?

>>167948008
You should get the Mauler. MX90 specifically.

>>167948328
Is there a way to get it going 60+ Kph STD while carrying a decent armament?

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>>167948628
Don't know. This is what I run.

>>167949047
Looks pretty good, you don't have trouble keeping up with the team?

>>167949186
In pubs no but in group queue that kind of speed is suicidal.

Where's my urban map with super huge buildings and lots of narrow spaces to pilot a small mech in? Maybe throw a park into the middle for the LRM faggots to feel useful in. It seems like every fucking map is in the middle of nowhere.

Hell they could reuse the buildings from crimson straight and just paste them out over a huge area.

Is it just me or is the game really dark by default?

So under the new system I'm fucked in any ECM mech that I haven't grinded shitloads of XP on. Not to mention the insane cbill requirement for changing skills if you want to respec.

Imagine being haracuck and having 400 mechs to skill out when the new update hits

>>167912845
Firestarter, in 2017, will finally have quirks!

>>167952182
Just clicking through all the skill trees will wear out his index finger

>>167951876
>if you want to respec.

Realistically, you'll have the same 60 skills in every single mech. Even swapping loadouts won't affect more than 20-25 skillpoints.

Structure
Speed
Turning
Cooling
Seismic
Dep
Weapon buffs to your one boated weapon

Boy I sure am enjoying this customization that's exactly the same on every mech

>>167953742
>needing seismic or anti lrm crutches
kek

>>167953864
>not taking free wall hacks and pretending you can learn to see through walls

>>167954497
pseudo esp over weapon quirks? no ty

>>167954973
lol enjoy your 1% range

What is double lock in Armored Core?

>>167955194
ty

Where is the new kong lore

>>167957798
Locked behind the skill tree. Gib cbills to unlock :^)

>>167957885
>you have to unlock the Kit and Harabec Love Story and Greg: The Early Days to get at the Kong Origin Story and Kong Civil War sections

No, it's too painful!

Is anyone else just really fucking happy modules will be gone?

>>167960402
Only halfway, because we still have consumables. That shit is awful and should go as well.

>>167961102
True.

>>167902012
no interest in Heavy Gear, the P&P killed my interest in that IP.

>>167919737
>>167919860
I vote for HPG, Mining or V City.

>>167960402
I've only been playing for a couple of weeks, so I won't really miss them since I never really got a chance to experience them.

>>167961418
You mean the tabletop gameplay mechanics itself or something about the lore/setting/tech?

>>167962393
Both. Heavy Gear minis looked interesting and I bought a bunch back in the day,

It also didn't help that my gaming group and lots of people at my FLGS were mostly all BTech fans. I'll stick with MWO.

any robits?

>>167962281
Same here. I REALLY don't look forward to going up against full armor quirk mechs while I'm stuck being poor in stock mechs. The mechs that I do own don't even have enough XP on them to get even 50 SP yet.

>>167965279
Me too friend, me too.

I for one, welcome our LRM overlords.

Lmao, a Cataphract with just 9% extra armor gets to allocate 119 armor in the CT and 81 in the side torsos.

>>167966620
problem?

>>167966620
Nice.
Why are you constantly crying about longer TTK?

>>167966620
Good, cataphract is hot garbage and the 2.5-alpha-to-kill meta is utter shit.

>>167967650
cataphracts are not hot garbage

>>167968617
they're luke-warm garbage.

>>167968718
ye

>>167933125
>where you are intended to lose the battle as it fades to credits

I want the last cutscene of the game go like:

>"So, [rank], after all that shit you've done, I think I've got a nice contract for you to let you recharge your batteries. It's on Toland, garrison duty against Redjack Ryan's lot and the Oberon Confederation. The job starts on 1 December 3049. How about it?"

>>167970209

that would be great

Guys is MWO p2w?

>>167973372
no, it's p2getbigmechsyouhavenoideahowtopilotandneverwill.

>>167955281
Pls respond

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do you think they'll do better with UE4?

>>167974194
google is your friend.

>>167974547
Google has no relevant info whatsoever other than the fact that it's mentioned in a gamefaqs document and it has no other explanation otherwise I wouldn't be asking here you retard.

>escort
aaaaand quit
I don't even care if they ban me, that game mode is such a fucking joke

>PTS game
>Nobody brought any lasers
>Everyone runs out of ammo

Turns out the time to kill was increased a bit too much for people with AC/20s, even with that magazine size increase.
who am I kidding its only 1 per ton.

An Urbie, an Atlas, and an 8x AC/2 UltraWhale all had a fun staring contest.

>>167975045
Yeah, who would have thought that giving mechs 15% armor and 25% structure would only increase time to kill by a little?

It actually did increase it by a little but only in the standard 12 v 12 scenarios. Balance in 4v4 and 8v8 was already fine and these changes fucked it all up.

>>167975629
>4v4
>8v8
literally who?

>>167976009
the PTS, where all this shit is being tested, is 4v4

>>167976127
good job pgi

>>167974886
do what I do and afk your way through it.

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>>167974496
Structure models look ok, destructible buildings are cool but that fucking map design is gross
>that cardboard cityscape on the horizon like on some mwo maps
>that blown up skybox like on all mwo maps
>that blurred to shit background
Thanks to whoever designs the maps at PIG I always feel like I'm inside a diorama, even older MW games had the feeling closer to say ARMA when you actually feel that you're on a large portion of terrain.

>>167976529
That looks beautiful. I'm surprised piggy made it.

>>167976626
>That looks beautiful.
No it doesn't.

>>167976626
It looks like a half mile plot of land inside a cardboard snow globe, distance items are complete trash.

>>167976626
Well, unreal makes it easy to look good.

>>167976956
>unreal isn't a garbage engine like cryengine
w-whoa

>>167976529

pretty hyped for this

>>167977268
>spud is right about something
what the fug

>>167976626
It's like they leveled up from a minimally viable developer to semi viable.

>>167977430
royalties from HBS

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>>167977290
Me too but I hope that trailer is not representative of final quality, esp LODs and distant terrain.

Here's an examle of generated terrain made in UE4 by a literal nobody in his spare time, compare with the picture above.

>>167955281
>>167974194

double-lock means you can lock two targets at the same time OP so you could hit two with missiles at once or switch targets faster

>>167978910

wait if you're talking about regular Armored Core it means the mount of times you can lock on to a target, also for missiles, so it will fire that launcher as many times as you can lock on to someone

>>167978910
>>167979189

both should be true, if you're talking about lock type on FCS, and it can go up to 8 or something

>>167978505
That grass is a set of transparent jpegs or pngs. Not to mention the amount generated is high because it only generated grass within ~15 meters of the camera.

Terrain generally doesn't have a problem looking good from a distance, look at Planetside 2 as an example. Just because what's there now looks like that, doesn't mean that the LOD's aren't actually slightly off.

>>167979532
Mate I'm talking about distant terrain not fucking grass.

NEW EVENT AND SALE ;)

http://mwomercs.com/news/2017/02/1731-heartbreaker-challenge-event-sale

>>167979739
The distant terrain is identical except one has some snow on it so it looks slightly better.

>>167984212
>The distant terrain is identical
Identical to what?

SKILL TREES

DELAYED

UNTILL MARCH

Skills Live PTS
Heat dissipation 15% 10%
Max heat threshold 20% 15%
Acceleration 15% 50%
Deceleration 15% 50%
Torso twist speed 5% 7.5%
Max torso twist 5% 20%
Arm speed 5% 40%
Turning speed 5% 30%
Startup duration 33% 35%
Cooldown 5%(17% with module) 5%
Pinpoint ... ...
Max speed 7.5% 7.5%
Extra module slot Yes Not applicable
Cost 57250xp / Module cost vs 136500xp / 9.1M C-bills

is Jagermech good
is quad AC2 jagermeme good

I suppose it can convert into an AC20 bomb

>>167984164


>Double 2k damage

Jesus,

>>167987624
isn't it just rack up 2k damage over time not a single game?

>>167987554
It does the shooting part well, but needs XL and dies like a total bitch due to being just a square slab, with super easily distinguishable hitboxes.

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:^)

>>167988589

prem+bonus must be nice.

>>167984540
source?

>>167988589
there's no prem bonus there.

>>167989912

How? The destruction bonus isn't enough, nor is the spotting. You don't even have any assists!

>>167989912
Except there obviously is, otherwise it shows "Add prem bonus to this match for mc"

>>167988589
Do all mechs have the same C-Bill gain and C-Bills is rewarded based on accolades? This is ignoring the Hero +30% CB modifier.

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is machinecraft /gerg/

>>167992007
Not really, that's like asking if Kerbal is /gerg/ because you can make robots in it.

>>167992007
it guns and a pilot

>>167993013
you can make your guns and pilots :^)

>>167987624
Dude that's like four games tops.

>>167994791
he probably tops out at 150 damage per game.

>>167995717

Could be worse, I could be bottoming out like you.

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>>167996895
>>167995717

Why would anyone keep playing MWO after the Into The Breach game is released?

WOW. I just tried deadside urbie for the first time.

>the rediculous tankyness
>the running around shooting things in the butt


http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=277&l=b7280c7dafd79ff3ecff40d197cc785e3771aef7


what are your deadside urbies?

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Kongdrops™ happening

>>167999339
>not AC20

end ur urbie

>>167999918
>Greg not using a Zeus
I might join this one

>>167998567
Why does anyone play any game after something else comes out?

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Kongdrops™ continue

>>168005610
>the only Kong is RainbowDashing
Amazing Kong drops you got there.

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>>167978505
Speaking of UE4 terrain.

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>>168005780
New HGA patch released this evening.

http://steamcommunity.com/games/416020/announcements/detail/675940444930365783

Updated HUD, hit conformation effect added to reticle, altered ammo counter placement.

>>168005667
Who?

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>>168006089
New engine components added to suppliment the Standard parts for the core, pylons and fuel tank. Light, Heavy and Assault cores and pylons, and small fuel tank selectable in the Gearbay.

>>168006089
this shit looks so fucking bad

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>>168006214
Tiger Heavy Trooper Gear model in the process of being updated with new geometry.

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>>168006338
A few new weapons are under development coming soon in the Gearbay, including the light flamethrower, light, medium and rapid fire bazookas, along with the light and heavy guided mortars.

>>168006089
>>168006338
>>168006464
looks cool

>>168006197
Rathar Darshing?

>tfw will never play federation vs zeon robots online

>>168006338
So I get to play a mech wearing Heelies?

>>168008235
Wear heelies to escape your feelies.

>>168008235
Yeah the SMS mode usually consists of wheels in the feet but can also be half tracks or full tracks on the heavier models. A few specialized Gears actually have a buttwheel or alternate feet configurations for high speed use.

>>167978505
>I hope that trailer is not representative of final quality
Yeah, it will be worse.

>>167976529

>Literally sprite cardboard buildings ala halo 2.

Jesus christ, 13 year old tech if even.

>>168009958
And this is their promotion material. Not exactly filling me with optimism.

>>168010297
It's only an alpha :^)

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is anyone even trying?

>>168010297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdcXqHZQxQ

>tfw western developers are retarded and nipdevs don't speak english

>>168010757
2hektik4me

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>>168006464
One more with a preview of the guided mortars mounted to the V-engine. Sounds like a tournament series announcement is pending as well.

>>168012572
this game looks like ass for 40 fuckin dollars

>>168012572
That game better be f2p becau....

>>168012745
Yeah, what this Anon said.

>>168012918
I still wouldn't play it, even for free.

>>168012745
Care to be more specific so the ass looking thing can be addressed? Actually looking for feedback to pass along.

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>>168012745
>>168012918
>>168013374
>I want to spend hundreds of dollars on a f2p game with massive grind instead of just buying a game once

>>168013434
Everything just looks so OFF.

Here.

>that rough rock
>then behind it there's this smooth looking stuff?

>the ground has these diamond rivets and shutters for some reason when they could've gotten away with no detail

>the UI looks like complete garbage made in mspaint

>third person, the mech itself doesn't particularly stand out
>that tiny minimap

>>168013772
well MWO is F2P so you can choose whether or not it's worth burning your wallet, if I had to choose between buying this game and not buying it based on what I've seen I wouldn't. If it was F2P sure, then I'd see if it's worth dropping cash.

>>168013374
2 mc have been deposited into your account.

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>>168012572

>Guided mortars

>>168013921
this is how LRM should've been handled in MWO

guided missiles

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>>168004637
DELETE THIS

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>>168013980

Guided mortars are basically nothing more than vertical AGMs. The fins attempt to direct the falling mortar onto the target, but the fall rate is not controlled.

I think its sad that sitting behind a rock or building is how you defeat an LRM when in reality it should be the very opposite. Sitting still means death and moving around means evading.

That said, I hope HGA is pure gundam about its weapon play. I loved that the weapons felt functional and things died after a good hosing.

>>168014426
I wonder how they will balance all the one-hit-from-this-and-it's-all-over weapons like skub cannon, VHFG or HPLC.

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>tell Spud I'm an OG.
>no way, man.
>produce proof and incredible stories.
>Spud is awestruck into silence as I reveal the true extent, reach, and might of my pimp hand.
>legit, pure, concentrated motivation injected into his veins as the punchline.

My job used to be to make the impossible possible. Seems I didn't lose the touch during my break.

hey guys lets play mechwarrior online together!

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>>168014734
nice blog

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nice meme

Who let the old men out of the pen?

>>167977268
CryEngine shits all over Unreal Engine as far as graphics go.
The problem is it needs to be used by professionals, not high school dropouts like at PGI.

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>>168013798
Well for a bit of context the map is a malfunctioning water pumping station converted into a dueling arena and that rivited floor area pictured is near the center of the map with the main generator. The smooth areas noted look to be some of the spectator seating locations basically built right out of the side of the rock face.

Here's another angle of that map with the laser marking the area where the Spitting Cobra in that mortar preview was standing and looking to the left towards that spectator area.

>>168015501
pida minut ajan tasalla

Why no RAC/20?

>>168015868
>CryEngine shits all over Unreal Engine as far as graphics go.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>168015868
Since CryEngine is SO GOOD then why does literally nobody use it? Not even Crytek because well they pretty much don't exist anymore.

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>>168016109
As far as the UI goes, the original versions used in the earlier alpha had a 3D HUD but unfortunately it was causing too many problems like poor framerates, as well as being an actual 3D model the HUD would cast shadows and reflections in the game environment and clip into terrain. So currently a 2D implementation is being used that can have the individual elements customized for color preference, but it does have a notably flat appearance at the moment.

The minimap was actually larger but recently was shrunk as it was impeding the 3PV view itself of the Gear. It's likely to get an overhaul to make the map more legible, also maybe getting a toggle to change size or location. There are two 3PV camera modes, one for a rear view and 1st person toggle, and an alternate camera angle toggle that goes between 3PV looking at the front and side of the Gear.

>>168015868
It literally doesn't matter whether it's CE, UE or fucking Unity.
Both look shit out of the box.
Either can look amazing if you have competent coders write good custom shaders and competent artists do the modelling and texturing.

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>>168010415
I'll show you alpha you cheeky cunt.

>>168013921
>>168014426

is there a guide to get this working on windows 7?

>>168016481
>It literally doesn't matter
It matters quite a lot actually. Are you stupid?

>>168016442
my dude that interface is really ugly

>>168016623
You need to fuck around with the Application Compatibility Toolkit's DirectDraw options iirc.
There might be a guide somewhere on gog forums.

>>168016442
The UI still looks like something put together by an amateur in his spare afternoon with not much care. Also it blends into the background way too much on your pictures.

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>>168016174
new meme

>>168016742

thanks, i've looked before but i haven't checked gog forums or messed with that first thing

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Happen to be just using white for some of the display at the moment but it can be altered to something with more contrast. The layout actually looks like it took some time in regards to information placement to present the most important items right around the center of the targeting reticle. The HUD interface probably is on its seventh or so iteration in the past three years and is getting further adjustment. It'll probably start getting weapon specific targeting indicators for things like the mortars and hand grenades and maybe for melee as well.

>still can't mount a pair of fusion-powered turbojets in Marauder's massive ass and fly around like it's UC '87
Why?

Do you guys think Haracuck and the furry are on a ERP date this valentines day?

>>168020231
Undoubtedly.

CONGRATULATIONS
YOU HAVE WON
ER PPC

10 more days boyo

>>168022012
Till?

>>168022241
SuperDeadOnArrival.

>>168022535
Oh shit, I totally forgot about the SuperNova.
God I hope I didn't pre-order one what with this shitty Skill Tree coming out too, I can't even remember.

>>168022612
well log into to MWO's webpage and check the store page for the shitternova.

That way you'll know.

>>168022670
>I preordered a SuperNova and a Roughneck
Jesus, what was I drinking?