/rpgmg/ - RPG Maker General #189

Forgot to link the last thread: >>167411069

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How can I make my game more like Deus Ex?

>>167866857
Let the player tackle missions in different ways.
Hide a lot of stuff everywhere, not only loot but also passages and hidden enemies.
Lots of conspiracies.
Hackable terminals and pcs.
Hire random people for voice acting.

>>167867394
What if I just do all the voice acting?
Definitely need some conspiracies to put it

>>167867613
Sure that can work too

>>167867962
I'll take notes from this game and Shenmue.

I don't want to make a clone but I like the conspiracies and the crazy plot

>>167868182
If you want conspiracies and shit read/play more cyberpunk material, there's lots of ways to do it without drawing from real world conspiracy theories like Deus Ex

>>167868506

I'll look into that. Made up conspiracies are just as good as real ones. Even better if you can't tell the difference

>>167867613
Would you actually do different voices?
Sidenote: What if I voice a game in Sim language or Animal Crossing babbles?

>>167870672
I would definitely do different voices. It makes the game more enjoyable. A woman can't sound the same as the three other guys you talked to, and the kid can't sound like them either.

I think the simlish would be neat, but people may not like it. The AC babble is a safe bet because it's rhythmic like actual speaking but not bogged down with trying to interpret what they're actually saing

Who did it better?

>>167870672
Simlish is too complicated to make, but babbling always works as long as you change the pitch and gives it a certain variety

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>>167871538
why no picture.....

repostan from old thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOyrYtcRA-M

LIVE DAMMIT

>>167866484
i had to go through vg page by page to find rpgmg. what the fuck happened to the catalog?

also ive decided im gonna make a little game until i get a new drawing tablet, like a very small game. half an hour of gameplay small. not sure about details, just gonna bust out paint and make little monochrome tiles and see where it goes.

>>167874540
The catalog is still there

>>167874830
weird, maybe its a local issue then. i'll try to figure it out later

I need a simple concept for a game to make a small rpg. All my ideas are either really shitty, really complex, or both.

>>167876412
Go shitty first. If you can't make a shitty game, you can't make a complex game.

>>167876412
You play as a monster killing adventurers. You can absorb their souls to add abilities to your character (think blue mage from Final Fantasy). Make it only one party member. Come up with an interesting setting.

>>167876694
Did you already update your demo or am I good to go with the link from the last thread?

>>167876694
>think blue mage from Final Fantasy
or just Alucard from Castlevania?

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>>167867394
>Hire random people for voice acting.
>>167867613
>What if I just do all the voice acting?
Voice acting...interesting.
Even if I got voice acting only for the animated scenes it would skyrocket my games quality to a professional level.

>>167878836
>voice acting
But should it be comically bad, or actually trying and making it bad?

>>167879105
Depends on your game, I want it bad-ass.

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WE'RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT
Post your progress.

>>167879608
Oh you're the DBZ guy. Nice Namek and Krillin.
I also gave you those company ideas

>>167879608
Oh yeah, I appreciate your help!
I still need to make a library. Might need some DBZ influence....

>>167880138
This was meant for >>167879828

Arise my minions

Pitch me your story

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Who's the most annoying RPGM youtuber and why is it Echo?
>making rpgm games for 10+ years
>not one successful game
>art still dogshit
>super annoying voice
>can't get to the point
>95% of the videos is usually gibberish self talk without any points or helpful observations being made
God, she sucks so bad.

>>167884442
god dammit i've been saying this for weeks

>>167876869
You can play it now if you want, the fixes going into the new link are pretty minuscule. Just don't upgrade agility or luck and you prob wont even notice.

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>>167884162
Fantasy commies hack into dragons using them as shock troops against the rest of the world.

MC and co. are hired murderhobos who go on adventures and shit while everything else is going on.

Oh and this is the newfag from yesterday who asked for help. Currently working with the stock assets. When I feel enough content to reach a demo, or decide on an art direction though; I'll start retexturing the game. I do like pixel art because it's comfy. I would like it so that the player can make out details on the characters though.

On another note, is there a way to make it so that an event checks whether a player /doesn't/ have a weapon equipped? I tried looking it up, but the RPGMaker forum appears to be down and all the other results are for previous builds.

Are there any examples of VNs made in rpg maker? I kinda wanna make one but I don't wanna have to switch engines

>>167886007
>Fantasy commies hack into dragon
Thanks for the idea, that's dope!

>>167884162
There's a town you physically can't leave due to a mysterious magic surrounding it ,one day, an ordinary girl living there wakes up with a clock floating above her head that grants her limited time manipulation abilities.

Can beating two zones and 3 bosses be enough mileage for the MC and his new partner to share personal motivations and goals?

>>167889021
Sure

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Does anyone here keep a portfolio of all their character sprites/designs?

Here's mine, anyway. I think I've improved over time.

>>167889767
I do keep every drawn piece and boy my beginnings were really bad.

>>167890883
May I see some of your character designs?

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>>167889767
Just my humble opinion.

Check mark = Would Use
X = Garbage

>>167890932
I humbly decline

Do you guys ever remix or remaster any of your old music?

I decided to remix an old song of mine today

original song: https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/dark-kings-duel-original-shitty-midi-version
remaster: https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/dark-kings-duel

>>167891443
Oddly enough, most of the guys you gave a check to were my personal favorites. Huh.

Thanks for the input, man!

>>167891537
Far from the point where I start making music.

Dark Kings Duel has potential but is very inconsistent.

>>167892439
thank you for the feedback!

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How do you get bands from Bandcamp let you use their music royalty free?
Do you need to do paperwork and contracts if they agree for you to use their music?

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>>167889767

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>>167889767
I don't exactly have a large "portfolio"

>>167894976
I like it. Very megaman.

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>>167889767
>>167894976
whoops, that was the blurry version

>>167895043
well yes, I did just edit Gaia Armor; the posture is completely the same.

>>167894976
X has weird cousins

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Noob question;
How do I move this map up the list?

>>167898046
On VX Ace, it always places the most recent one you dragged into the directory at the bottom.

>>167895157
This is very strange. It looks good in some places and others have pillow shading. Look at the feet, it looks incredible. Now look at the black shoulder pad, pillow shading. I think its is really good but consider making the more "flat" parts of the coloring job have additional depth like the feet.

>>167899057
Like I said, edited from something actually good. The feet look incredible because I didn't change very much from the original.

I'm guessing when you say pillow shading, you mean the the color is flat when it should have a gradient according the depth and light source?

>>167899385
It's not bad at all, it just needs to be consistent more than anything. By pillow shading I mean the darker edge around most of the flat colors. It makes it look outlined instead of shaded. Try to stick with 3 shades/hues per color. You want your highlights and shadows to show depth. By studying the feet you can see what I mean.

>>167899591
I'll uh, try to get on that when I figure out how to highlights.

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>>167889767
I do that. Here is an old one from a game that is on the back burner at the moment.

>>167900751
A bunch of those are just edited Pokemon sprites, mang

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>>167899865
You can see it right there on the foot. Imagine a ball being hit by light (as in this image). When a metal object is hit by light it reflects a lot back. It takes some getting used to, but as you do your pixel art you'll start to get the hang of it. I'm far from having a good grasp on it myself, but if you want to improve start thinking about these things as you work. It really makes colors pop.

>>167900751
>all stolen shit from other games
How do you sleep at night?

>>167901254
Gotta start somewhere bro. They'll get another pass or two when I get back to the project to change them up more.

>>167900751
>>167889767
>Pokemon edits everywhere.
Why borrow from one of the most popular games of all time? Pick something more obscure at least.

>>167902221
But what about matte colors, those shouldn't have highlights, right?

>>167902662
I'm not that experienced but I'd think there is still way to show texture or depth using hue shifting or gradients. It really depends on what you're trying to achieve. I was just commenting on light reflection being kinda necessary on a metal robot character (especially if it already has some in the image).

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Is this enough content for an RPG?

7 main town-dungeons
9 dungeons
20+ bosses

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>>167905201
This is your world anon, your RPG can have as much content as you like

>>167905201
An RPG can be 30 mins long or 90 hours. It's your game. Don't limit yourself. I'd love to play a game with the content you described.

>>167905201
Plenty if the story is any good.

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>>167889767
The only one i kept

>>167905387
I'm mostly concerned that it might turn out too short as I'm trying not to tall into the long empty game trap.
>>167905420
If I'd have the time and manpower, I'd definitely build something huge, but I don't, so if I want everything to turn out in the quality I imagined, I have to make sacrifices.
>>167905468
>Plenty if the story is any good.
I hope it will turn out good, I've created the world and the state it is first, then the main characters and now I am basically letting them dictate how the story will turn out.
So far I am only sure in the first part of the game with will feature; begging town "PE" -> short forest path -> dungeon -> shorter path -> dungeon/town "K"
In this part the player is supposed to fight 5 bosses.
>>167905476
Looks great, how did that cell style work out for you?

I'm torn between a clean and pixel art look.

>>167907134
If you're making completely custom assets your idea will probably take you at least a year, it would take me two because I'm slow =(.

New version is up with some bug fixes. Spread this one around if you want! Lemme know what you think.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8u2t6pfmgzur65g/The%20Long%20Road.zip?dl=0

>>167907584
I'm doing everything from scratch and I will also attempt to incorporate animation.
As I work only in the summer so I currently have around 5-6 months to completely dedicate to this project.

My goal for this month is to have a map with all the locations, and simplistic version of the story done.

>>167910406
I admire you for doing everything from scratch. Your ideas to do animation, though hard to pull off, will help set you apart and I think it's a great idea. 5-6 months is more than enough time to get most of it done. I wish you the best of luck, if you need any help or have questions just ask!

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I'm way too tired and didn't even work on my game so I'm doing to this repent.
Or something.

Nice, we have a little animated sequence which loops before we get to new game.
Mind sharing how you did that?

After he leaves the first screen however he starts to "vibrate" but I'm way too lazy to create a webm now.
Also something break because it doesn't loop anymore, the music is silent and the two cats simply stay there.

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With there I mean here.
I also suggest moving the menu a little bit down because the name of the game conceals a little of it.
Anyway, let's start

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Oh fuck
What should our name be?

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Silly me, there can only be one name

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Not sure if the choices to something.
Let's be honest, though.

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This text adventure has some nice music, I must admit.

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Does my waifu count?
I think so.

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After talking with god we find ourselves in a car ride and something tells me and something tells me this will not end well.

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Well, it's pretty clear what is going to happen by now.
My cat actually reacts to the miaowing.

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It was all a dream and we were awoken by this cute cat.
I'm really liking the art style.

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I get the feeling I shouldn't use /rpgmg/ again.
Give me a name, lads.

>>167913065
Nero

>>167911332
>Nice, we have a little animated sequence which loops before we get to new game.Mind sharing how you did that?
Lots of events running at the same time. One controls the camera, another controls the movement of the characters. I have a plugin that enables events before the "start" of the game should take place. The title screen is never called. The entire intro you see is on a map with events, though there is nothing you can control. If you get a player stuck in a loop of events, you can make a lot of interesting things.

>After he leaves the first screen however he starts to "vibrate"
The vibrating is due to errors in the camera plugin, will fix before final version.

>Also something break because it doesn't loop anymore, the music is silent and the two cats simply stay there.
This was done today, I didn't test it as much as I should have. I'll fix it up for the next release. It's a pretty minor thing for a demo, so I hope this is alright.

>Not sure if the choices to something.
They most certainly do :)

>My cat actually reacts to the miaowing.
My cat made the meowing :) My cat is talking to your cat! (I wonder what they are saying)

>It was all a dream
Was it?

>I'm really liking the art style.
Thank you, that first room will be fixed up a bit before the final release of the game. It is the oldest work in the game and I'm not too proud of it. If you like that you'll probably like the rest of the game more.

>I get the feeling I shouldn't use /rpgmg/ again.
Give me a name, lads.
The double naming thing should confuse you. It's hard to explain, but it will make sense at the end of the final game.

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The emperor who burned down Rome it is then.

>My cat made the meowing :) My cat is talking to your cat! (I wonder what they are saying)
Aw, that's cute.

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Turns out it was no dream after all.
Our new friend shows us around and we can inspect stuff and even get exp from it!

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>Get told not to jump on the couch
>Immediately do it
I'm such a madman

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Curse my little paws.
We inspected a few things and got a few exp for it.

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Time to battle against a mighty foe.

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And this is what happens if you miss.
This game is pretty hardcore.

>>167910896
Thanks, best of luck with your game as well, it has enough charm to sell well, so be sure to finish it!

>>167909113
I can hold down Z on the lifting part to easily lift any weight.

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Last time you defeated me.
This time will be different.

>>167914362
>And this is what happens if you miss.This game is pretty hardcore.

This really shouldn't happen. I'll fix it for next demo release, sorry.

>Thanks, best of luck with your game as well, it has enough charm to sell well, so be sure to finish it!

Thank you, I will. No matter what!

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We defeated the evil yarn ball and we can fight against that cute mouse here.
If we do it we are probably on the Genocide path so we will refrain for now.

>>167914362
I'm actually having a hard time reproducing this error in the distributed version. What exactly happened to trigger it?

>>167915238
>If we do it we are probably on the Genocide path so we will refrain for now.
It certainly makes a difference in a while :)

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After we raided the kitchen and made a total mess we went outside. There we told our friend that we are going home, she is nice and wants to help us.
We also met Sam the save snail where we can save and spend our adventure experience coins.

>>167915459
Not sure, I missed on purpose during the first attack. Want me to try again?

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Suddenly /fit/
That squirrel sure is ripped.

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I like this game so far, feels really comfy.
The lifting minigame can be cheated like the other Anon said by holding down Z. Maybe change it so you have to press two buttons?
Also we talked to some other animals on The Farm.
Oh, there is also some hidden treasure in the tree.

>>167907134
Don't know how to draw pixel from scratch so i just draw on high res sheet then down scale it

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I have to hit my bro for a chick.
Also can I miss even if I hit the green area?

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Huh
I should buy the Leafs but I simply cannot resist.

>>167917037
>Also can I miss even if I hit the green area?

You shouldn't be able to hit it if you aren't in the green area, have you noticed otherwise? Don't worry about recreating the bug, I'll investigate more.

>The lifting minigame can be cheated like the other Anon said by holding down Z. Maybe change it so you have to press two buttons?

It's a hard thing to fix because the maker recognizes a "key press" even if it is held down. But I will fix it, I must fix it.

>I like this game so far, feels really comfy.

If it's fun, I've done my job. If it's not fun, I need to reconsider some things... lol

>We also met Sam the save snail where we can save and spend our adventure experience coins.

He'll be followin' you around throughout the game. Heck, you may even meet his wife, Susan the sweet snail!

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After an exhausting day of fooling around in the garden we finally get to the juicy part of the game.
Be sure to talk to the other animals again for some extra exp.

>>167917793
No I think I hit the area but my attack missed. Maybe because the squirrel has a lot of defense? The follow up attack did hit him, though. I could also be mistaken.

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We heard something not so nice from outside and woke up and we decided to check it out. Cleo had a bad dream and I'm sure something terrible happened in her life.
We also got a little backstory on us and we meet the little mouse again.
Is this a Fievel reference? I'm pretty sure it is.

>>167918049
>No I think I hit the area but my attack missed. Maybe because the squirrel has a lot of defense?

It may be confusing and I need to clarify how the system works. A success at the timer means you actually attack where a failure means the attack is canceled. Enemies can still dodge attacks, they have like a base 2% chance or something around there (reduced by your hit). The only exception is the crows, which have higher evasion. It doesn't feel good to hit the marker and see a miss though, I may just make it a certain hit and balance the game in other ways around that.

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Can't let you do that Star Wolf.

>>167918507
Yeah I think it would be better if you change it.

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Hemorrhage is STRONK
Pretty much skipped the fight against Whax with it

Some graphic error are here in this fight, like Cleos window and Nero was off screen when the enemies attacked.

Aww
I like this.
You could make the fight a little harder, maybe change the meat throwing ability to heal both or something.

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>>167919826

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I enjoyed it a lot.
This could become a wonderful game, keep working on it Anon!
Are you okay with me putting in a reference to your game in mine somewhere?
Probably a black cat without tail and a white one lingering around in the streets or something like that.

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Good night bump

>>167919826
>You could make the fight a little harder, maybe change the meat throwing ability to heal both or something.

I will! I wanted to be extra cautious because it's the first boss fight and I didn't want to punish poor point distribution this early on (oh, you'll be punished alright).


>>167920184
>I enjoyed it a lot.

I'm stoked! Thanks for playing it!

>This could become a wonderful game, keep working on it Anon!

I'm not going to stop until it's released or I am dead.

>Are you okay with me putting in a reference to your game in mine somewhere?
Probably a black cat without tail and a white one lingering around in the streets or something like that.

That sounds cute! Go for it!

>>167894043
A contract on paper is safer in case there is a disagreement at some point, but if they've agreed to let you use it, you shouldn't really have a problem.

>>167905476
Is there any point to the dagger?

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This might be a very dumb question, and if so, I apologize, but I'm not sure where else to ask.

I'm trying to make an RPG. I do not use RPGMaker.
My question is this: How do you calculate all the math involved?
Is that something RPGM does for you, and if not, do you have any tips on how to wrap my brain around it all?
I mean, how do you know what damage values are fair?
How do you know how much experience to reward?
How do you know how much to increase each stat upon leveling, or what exactly those stats dictate, and to what degree?
How are you able to work through the tons of variable numbers? Weapons, level, grinding, enemies, party members- all this stuff?
How do you keep a consistent or intentional level of difficulty?

>>167923709
>How do you calculate all the math involved?
Through a lot of trial and error in testing.

>Is that something RPGM does for you, and if not, do you have any tips on how to wrap my brain around it all?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around it myself, but it helps having a basic understanding of math (like high school level). You can brush up on YouTube, there are math lectures that are extremely helpful. Most formulas present themselves as something like:
(Damage Source *or+ modifiers) - (Damage Mitigation *or+ Modifiers). Stats and equipment are usually the modifiers or affect them. Don't overthink it, or it can get a little weird.

>I mean, how do you know what damage values are fair?

It's impossible to know without extensive testing. Do a battle at least 10 times (to account for variance) to get a good understanding of how difficult it is and adjust in SMALL amounts until it feels right.

>How do you know how much experience to reward?

I couldn't really figure this out in relation to experience required to level, so I just got rid of levels entirely.

>How do you know how much to increase each stat upon leveling?

Same as above really. I like putting points into things and I think most people do too, so I went with that.

>>167923709
>what exactly those stats dictate, and to what degree?

Stats should represent something that makes sense. Luck for crit chance, strength for melee attack power, etc. Most people want to very quickly associate commonly used stats. Everyone knows strength = more damage. My advice is not to mess with this common knowledge, it tends to make the game bloated and confusing.

>How are you able to work through the tons of variable numbers? Weapons, level, grinding, enemies, party members- all this stuff?

Mostly just testing and tweaking slowly. Your tweaks should depend on your design philosophy. Should equipment upgrades show huge strides in power? If so, start your tweaking there. Think of it like a ratio of importance and tier your design in such a way. For example, if you want power to be reflected as (Skills>Equipment>Stats), than for every 3 small tweaks to skills, add a tweak to equipment and for every 2 small tweaks to equipment, change the weight a stat has.

>How do you keep a consistent or intentional level of difficulty?

I hate to say it again but LOTS of testing. Test with different equipment, party compositions. For every change you make adjust your testing attempts based roughly on the amount of variance the fight has.

Hope this helps!

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Goodnight /rpgmg/!

Sorry for all the spam, but take my WIP bar as a peace offering.

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i did a custom sprite for the first time ever. thoughts? keep in mind im going for a simpler style so im not planning on doing more than minimal shading

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>>167926760
Looks very good. It's a shame that RPGMaker only lets you use 3 frames unless you beat it over the head a few times, this deserves more frames of animation. My only suggestion would be to animate the head a little bit. It flows pretty well. Nice work!

>>167927000
thank you so much! i'll probably tweak it tomorrow morning, its 5am and ive been at the computer for about 8 hours now

>>167927000
>It's a shame that RPGMaker only lets you use 3 frames
This has really been fucking me up, I so badly want bigger sprites during non-combat but everything looks kinda shit with only 3 frames.

https://youtu.be/AEMOAATObGw?t=96 how do people do 3-d cubic mode 7 like this in RPGmaker MV

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>>167928361
Better quest, why don't these games make any money and become popular?

>>167928721
Thats my question too

>>167928361
Damn, I'd really like to know what a lot of those were, and if they had translations.

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>>167884162

>>167886007
the fuck's a reversemancer

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>>167923282
To look badass :^)

>>167917793
Leo, my friend, to solve the key press thingy just put "Input.isTriggered('ok')" in the script section of the conditional branch instead of using the built-in key check

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Alright guys so I've finished rough mapping the first "arc" of the game.
This features;
Begging "Town"
>intro cutscene
>bunch of dialogue
>6 tiny rooms
>2 streets
>5 big rooms
>1 battle
>3 main characters introduced
Road 01
>1 cutscene
>5 maps
>4 side maps
>1 Boss
Short Dungeon
>dialogue
>1 very short cutscene
>new monster breed
>1 Boss
Road 02
>3 maps
>2 side maps
>rehashed Boss battle
1st Town/Dungeon
>2 short cutscenes
>some dialogue
>bunch of random encounters
>2 though enemies
>1 Boss

As I've kind of concluded this chapter, I am very tempted of doing some placeholder art, storyboards, dialogue and battles.
Should I go for it, or stick to my original plan of doing one thing at a time?(map the whole game first without anything in it bla bla bla)

>>167935067
>>167905476
It has maebari, so it's automatically a good design.

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Okay, so Me and some friends have been messing around with the ACE system for a second and we're just being really goofy.

My question is how do you distinguish a character who specializes in fighting up close aggressively and a character who prefers to fight from afar in an RPG format?

And how would you reflect that behavior in enemies?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO_GZzrdE9Y

HOW THEY DO IT

>>167937991
Why not just use other game maker?

>>167937639
Long range guy has more MP. Close range guy has more health and direct moves.

Long range guy is attacked more often by enemies but close range guy can provoke them.

>>167938894
what do you reccomend

Mind if I bump?

>>167927000
>>167926760
I'm fairly certain there is a plugin that adds frames to overworld sprite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v9L8aucDyo

Good morning

>>167944936

What if I made a story based on my dream with Japanese delinquents?
Would it work in an RPG format or should I just go Visual Novel instead?
These are the only two formats I can make.

>>167947215
What kind of mechanics would you like to have in your game?

Probably branching dialogue?
Romance system?
Combat?
Quests?
Journal system?
Collectible items?
Multiple endings?
How many playable characters?

>>167947215
If there is fighting in it, RPG is fine. A visual novel would be more for if fighting isn't that important.
If it's about delinquents I expect fighting.

>>167949823
It's not really focused on fighting so I suggested Visual Novel (which I can do in Rpg maker anyway) .
It's more focused on the inner drama of the fan and their decisions in life.
Everything you said sounds amazing to add to a game but I'm not crazy enough to bs over ambitious. I'll stick to the branching dialogue and multiple endings. Maybe actually utilize the combat system as minigames.

>>167950947
Well I asked so I could get a better sense of how to do it. Also are you a strong artist? Or at least a determined one? Because if you can draw and make your own art then VN might be the way to go. I'm creating the assets for my game and it can be time consuming but very nice once it all comes together. If you want distinct levels that you interact with and poke around in, the RPG would be better. Because, as you probably know, VN backgrounds are usually just static images with portraits of characters layered on top.

>>167950947
Please don't use rpg maker for visual novels, it's really not meant for it. There are free vn creation tools that are much more suited for the task.

>>167953005
>>167953289
I consider myself a good artist determined enough to pull off a visual novel but I've tried Ren'py before but never really got anywhere.
Setting up branching dialogue and choices attached to variables and switches are so much easier in RPG maker that it seems more realistic that I'd actually finish a game in RPGM than Ren'py.

>>167960147
Never tried Ren'py
But RPG Maker is solid. Plus if you ever want to make other games that are RPG's you can do that. Not sure if you can do that with Ren'py

quick question: if i make a monster hunter like game in rpg maker, would you play it?

>central hub
>pick your party
>themed dungeons that expand with questlines
>equip unlock based on progression, with items (undecided on grindiness level)

also, are there rpg maker games like that already?

>>167964402
How much like pokemon will it be?

>>167964675
Anon said monster hunter, meaning it's like monster hunter not pokemon

>>167964675
there are many options, i know there's pokemon for rpg maker

>create a pool of characters for different classes
>only pick characters at the start of the game
>pokemon (get characters in dungeons, the characters evolve)
>pick and change characters from a pool ingame (characters start at level one of their class when they join)
>recruitment function of random characters (ala darkest dungeon)
>instructions for add/edit characters you want
>instructions for add/edit dungeons
>instruction for add/edit equipments

How edgy is too edgy, rpgm?

>>167928361
Seeing these videos makes me feel like shit. I couldnt even come close to doing that

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What's it gonna be??

>>167967684
A funeral home.

>>167967747
When the young go to die.

>>167967684
A strip joint.

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Progress

>>167967684

>http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-02-10-valve-is-removing-steam-greenlight-this-spring

>To counter this, Valve is changing its application fee. Right now developers pay $100 and can submit as many games as they want to Steam Greenlight. Steam Direct, however, will have a more substantial fee and charge per title.

>How substantial a fee, you ask? Well, Valve's still figuring that part out. If it's too expensive, hard-working but broke developers won't be able to afford it. Make it too light, however, and Steam could get inundated with offensive troll titles. Right now the thinking is that it will be somewhere between $200 and $5000.

Welp, so much for putting my game on Steam.

>>167971160
Damn. Is there any other alternative places to sell online games at?

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Starting a new project!

>>167973251

There's GOG, but I don't really know how the process of getting the game submitted to them works.

They even mention RPG Maker in their submission FAQ:

>I created my game in RPG Maker, is this a problem?

>It’s not a problem, but right now it is a very popular tool, and we receive a lot of submissions done with it. Which means that your title needs to be extra polished and unique to stand out. Of course your own content and assets are a must!

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>>167971160
>>167974341
I'm just really disappointed at this.
I think I'm going sink into the floor.

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coming together now

>>167977756
A school or a prison. They all look the same really.
Or the funeral home in my hometown...

>>167977964
It's supposed to be an old library

>>167971160
Welp now I've lost all of my motivation

>>167973931
Digging the aesthetic, looking forward to seeing what you do.

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Come anons, show me your progress.
I know you made some today!

>>167980485
That's a nice hyperbolic time chamber anon, good job

>>167980665
Hey, do you think I should or shouldn't use black outlines?

For example, top left vs top middle and top right

>>167980785
I think it looks better without black outlines

>>167980785
Should.

>>167966695
No
such
thing.

>>167964402
>also, are there rpg maker games like that already?

>equipment based progression
yes. Some take advantage of the small scale of game to make it very polished.

>central hub
>themed dungeons that expand
these are less often done. The problem is that needing to progress the questline to expand the dungeon means you will inherently revisit the same place multiple times, putting a minimum level of grind. The only ones that I recall are crappy armorgames/newgrounds types that are 3 steps away from being idle games.

You can sequence break with good use of mechanics and abilities, but you can't sequence break story(without it being a bad thing or strictly for speedruns)

>>167979318
Thanks anon! I'll try not to disappoint

>>167980485
>I know you made some today!
Hell no, just woke up and spent the last hour jacking off while coming up with new ideas.

>>167988085
Hey I jacked off before making this, so you can definitely do both

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>>167980485
Oh goodness no, I woke up and read
>>167971160
and immediately fell apart. All of my games were going to be free, I just wanted people to play them.

Now no one is definitely going to play them.

>>167971160
I guess I'm going to have to crowdfund that unspecified amount of thousands of dollars then =(, this sucks.

Also
>>167935091
You rock, thank you.

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>>167971160
>no 5000 bucks
>kickstarter doesn't include my country
I-I guess I can kill myself now, I have failed at my only chance to have a normal life.

One could release on other platforms first, then add Steam once the game pulls in enough to cover the fee. Obviously getting kickstarter backers to pay for it would be preferable, but lacking that option doesn't have to screw you over entirely.

>>167992995
But what if you're someone like me who doesn't have any games out or fans?
How the fuck do I find people to play for my fee no matter how good it is?

And keep in mind, we're RPGM nobody fucking likes us.

>>167993801
Even other RPGM outside of here doesn't like us.

This is the lowest of the low, and we just got owned by Steam.

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>>167993801
>nobody fucking likes us
I-I like RPGM games....

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>>167994091
speaking of which, anyone do watercolor aesthetic games?

>>167994217
I've thought of doing this...
I can't really paint so it would be fun seeing how i could make it work

>>167884442
Which channels are actually good for RPGM?

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Progress!

>>167997771
SumRndmDde

>>167997771
Who gives a shit anymore, Gabe screwed us all over.

>>167998140
>Steam is the only way
Fucking hell dude. If you really want to make it, you can't wallow in shit all day long. Be a pioneer and make your own way.

>>167998140
If you're trying to make money with your game, you shouldn't be using RPG Maker, unless you're planning on having adult content and using some sort of Patreon or Kickstarter thing.

>>167998140
I play all my rpgmaker games outside of steam

>>167999195
This. I've supported RPGM games. None of them through Steam.

>>167998740
Y-yeah guess newgrounds will still take lewd RPG games.

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>>167999879
>not creating a website for it

>>167998965
>f you're trying to make money with your game, you shouldn't be using RPG Maker
Why?
Tell me exactly why not.
Are turn based RPGs not fun anymore?

>>168000204
You'll still be able to sell your game on Steam after the changes. You just have to pay a bit more to get it up there. If it's of sufficient quality, you should have no issues raising the money to get it put on steam. They still haven't released the specifics of the changes.

If you make a quality game you'll be able to find buyers, regardless of the engine. Ignore the procrastinators (we're all procrastinators).

What is the preferred choice of drink of your MC?

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>>168002172
Breast milk

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>>168002172
Human semen

>>168002172
Haven't decided.
What drink is the most patrician?

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>>168000354
So we can basically put together some screenshots and a short video, put it on indiegogo and hope for the best?

How am I even supposed to get 500 people to back me up when I don't even have a tiny fanbase?

>>168002943
my ideal modus for checking if I want to play a game is in this order:
>art style of cover
>screenshots
>gif/webm of combat
>text description
>screenshot/gif/webm of interface

I kinda hate steam because they always start off with a 2minute video that takes way too long to show anything I want to see.

And it doesn't even show what I want to see most of the time, with the important aspects getting 3 seconds of the whole video.

>>168002904
Milk in a tall, clean glass at a bar.
It's the choice of heroes and skeletons everywhere.

>>168003386
Can he GOMAD?

>>168003480
Only if he wants cancer, since apparently too much milk causes cancer now.
One glass per day/episode seems ideal.

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>>168003269
Yes but would anyone actually crowdfund an RPGMaker game?

I don't know, I think this is the end for me, all my hopes are shattered.

>>168003681
>causes cancer
He's not from california.
But he might get fat so there's that

>>168000204
Turn-based RPGs are still great. Being limited to RPG Maker is not. I can't think of an RPG Maker game that doesn't still resemble an RPG Maker game. But games like Hyper Light Drifter or Undertale don't resemble GameMaker Studio, because you have so much more freedom. I'd wager that the great turn-based RPGs from your childhood were made in the studio's own game engine. If you want your game to sell, either make it so good and original that it doesn't feel like RPG Maker, or add adult content.

>>168003860
Plenty of RPG maker games have been kickstarted.

>>168003896
>California
Nah, I'm looking at British/Aus studies suggesting it. Only 3 cups per day, max.
I can't imagine having more than 2 per day anyway, though.

>>168003860
This made $10,000... and it's full of RTP.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crayonponyfish/lotia
If a generic RPG Maker game can make that much, I'm sure an actually good game can make more.

>>168004341
Wow... I'm surprised...

>>168004341
WHAT???

Holy shit.

Is there really hope for us?

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You're a jukebox hero, you've got stars in your eyes.

>>168007354
Why do you think I'm killing myself making this game?

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It's hard to draw with your hands uncontrollably shaking.

>>168007354
Just make a really solid game, don't use RTP, collaborate with some artists for some nice promo/character pictures and you're set.

Good premise + good art + good marketing = money

>>168007607
>Why do you think I'm killing myself making this game?
I'd guess the seam reason I am, you're tired of poverty and want to make a living doing the only thing that fulfills your, games?

>>168007808
That's a bingo.

Plus I am forced to live in the middle of nowhere for a while, no jobs. May as well do this.

>>168007669
I guess I have the first two covered, but marketing?
How am I supposed to market something when I cannot even afford a thousand-five thousand bucks to get my game on Steam?

>>168008035
>Plus I am forced to live in the middle of nowhere for a while, no jobs.
Are you me?
I couldn't get a job even if I wanted to, there's only work here in the summer and that's literally the bare minimum to survive the winter.

>>168008128
Creepy anon, we're in the same boat with the same dreams. Come to my bar and have a drink.

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Don't be discouraged because Steam is changing the Greenlight system.
If you keep working hard and make a great game you have nothing to fear.

>>168008203
We should definitely become friends, I'll have to make a twitter or something as soon as I finalize a bit of art.
>Creepy
Desperate anon at this point, this Direct news really fucked me up.

>>168008561
I was angry for a few hours, but don't let it defeat you. Remember why you're doing this. We'll just throw up some go-fund-me or some shit and spam the link everywhere to get our games out. We gotta tell our story man.

Easiest way of making a custom UI?

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No, no, you guys are right! I shouldn't let this inconvenience stop me.
I will just work even harder, and hope even harder someone notices me!
>>168008903
I'm still boiling, so I'm just drawing as I cannot focus on learning or doing "programming work"

>>168009225
Luna Engine, maybe?

>>168009362
Quickly looked it up, can you only get it with 30 bucks through their site and steam?

I finally found a way to make my game's plot work, I can finally continue working on it. It does mean I need to scrap a good chunk of what I had done so far, but I think it'll be better

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Bar is done! Just needs NPCs!

Skunk bartender and the patrons (Snake, Rooster, Squirrel, Ostrich, Opossum).

>>168010840
I know it's painful, but its necessary. I had to drop a few things myself.

>>168010840
>It does mean I need to scrap a good chunk of what I had done so far, but I think it'll be better
This is completely normal and shows that you are improving.

>>168010991
Looks great

>>168002172
Years of screwing up with experiments left him with an impaired taste. Anything below saltwater might as well be tap water to him.

This is played four laughs though. Fuck up the alchemy minigame enough times and he'll be able to tough up poison without negative consequences.

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Where the MC lives.
He upgraded from his former block.

A combination of circumstances has led to me deving at 3 in the morning. It feels like a big deal.

>>168015334
That's the time I usually start working on my project.
The silence of the night helps me to concentrate.

>>168015439

I feel the same way, but I'm only in this state because I can't sleep, there's nothing I want to play or watch, I have to be at work in a few hours anyway so I might as well stay up, there aren't any new chapters of any of the manga I follow, my hand-eye coordination is too exhausted for me to try drawing, I already jerked off, I'm not hungry or thirsty nor do I have to go to the bathroom, I already dusted my figures and cleaned my room and I don't feel like playing DQ7 any more than I already have. With all of that safely tucked away and accounted for, I can dev.

>>168015334
>>168015439
Same here, well I'm up around 2am anyways, it's nice when nothing around you is going on.
Just me and my little world.

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Bump.

Also would you play a game where a minor antagonist shouts a voiced "THERE YOU ARE!" with a strange accent after he finds where you're hidden?

>>168017265
Does this result in a game over or something?

>>168017769
There would be no point in being hidden if it didn't, so yes.

>>168017854
Well, let's say I would play it regardless of this voice. It's neither a deal-maker nor a breaker.

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Good night bump

>>168008048
There are plenty of ways to advertise for free. If your game would appeal to tumblrites, make an account and post progress there. Post about it anywhere that's friendly to rpg maker and/or indie games. Contact popular youtubers and ask if they'd like to show it off if they get a free copy. Hell, you can even shill on /v/.

As long as your game actually looks GOOD (or even if it doesn't, if it tickles some particular audience in some way), people will get excited for it and be happy to spread the word. You still need a bit of luck, but that's true even if you pay for ads.

>>168019170
Those tails look absolutely disgusting, like long hairy sausages.

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>>168020312
Well my art does look good and solid, but I wouldn't define it unique, there's no stylization to it.

>>168020716
It doesn't need to be unique! Just good enough, together with the rest of the game, to appeal to enough people.

>>168020716
>>168021345
And that's true for selling the game, too, not just getting the word out.

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>>167971160
haha holy shit, are they TRYING to lose their devs to itch.io? because that's where we'll all end up going.

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>>168002172
strawberry jarritos, son

>>168004341
the fact that this made $10k while the character portraits are half covered by hp/mp bars makes me so angry
like if you want 10 grand make sure your shit is straight, at the very least

>>168008048
network. it sucks how many people kind of neglect their networking and pr stuff bc its super important. make sure you have a social media presence and make industry friends on sites like twitter and tumblr- or even non-dev friends, especially if they do something you can't.
also seconding, contact youtubers. theyre cool people for the most part. i know a couple and have mutual friends with a couple more so im gonna contact them once my project is done.

>>168008451
i have plenty to fear. even their lowest amount is a week's pay for me. i cant afford to front $200 to put my game on steam.

>>168015334
shit dude, same. gotta work around day jobs.

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this mornings project, mapping out where im gonna put stuff so i know what to sprite

Phoenix Feather!

>Steam Greenlight
>$100 fee for unlimited access

>Steam Direct
>At least double that amount, per game

I wonder if they're collecting the fee for themselves this time (Greenlight's fee went to charity). Valve has entered a new meta where it makes money off the makers and buyers of games. It's like making the band pay to play at your venue, except the venue is the internet and never runs out of space.

>>168025241
Looking good.

LIVE

>>168025241
Are you doing a b&w game?

>>168032196
>>At least double that amount, per game
They want to stop in influx of submission, it's going to be at least 1k.

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Work on your game

>>168022842
What is itch.io? Explain further.

Anyone else know any alternatives to steam?

Thoughts on this new song I made?

https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/thy-goddess-grace

It's supposed to be phase 1 of a final boss theme. It's for a game I got halfway through a while back but never finished.

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>>168049156
It's cool but the title doesn't make me think of a goddess. It makes me think of a crazy scientist, or to be more precise, this character.

Ok, so I had this idea for a large story and two of the many enemies you face are a couple that revive each other no matter how many times you defeat them and that's if you actually survive their super move immediately after.
Now storywise they keep reviving with the power of love. The player characters come up with the tactic of breaking them up/making one of them fall for a party member. This involves a side quest of finding one of the enemies in a town in their secret identities and making them fall for the party member. In the end the two enemies die because one of them's shame at falling for the party member is greater than their love and the party kills them.
Now, this is all fine and dandy, but the two enemies are ladies and the party member is a guy,and there is nothing optional about this entire part, you have to do this to continue the game.
How much backlash would my game receive from the LGBT people if this was the only time LGBT stuff got mentioned in my game?
Should I keep this in my large game or just cut it into it's own little game and remove it from the larger story's game?
In the larger game you actually have to fight those two enemies again but younger and in a bigger group and kill them again because time mischeif and they were part of some superhero group that's against the player character.

>>167971160
This may stop scum devs who reskin and rerelease the same game to make a profit from combined sales. This will not stop shovelware. But it sure will hurt small indie devs, especially those in countries with less valuable currency. If Valve concedes and lets those countries pay an adjusted fee, what's to stop shovelware publishers from creating a company in that country?

>>168050616
who the fuck cares, they aren't gonna buy your game

hell if anything it's more publicity for it

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>>168049815
That's precisely the intent. The goddess you're battling is absolutely batshit insane. In fact, she even kind of looks like the character you posted. (Pic related, a shitty MSpaint concept drawing of her)

>>168048161
Itch.io is a website that hosts indie games. It allows you to create a web page and sell your game through paypal or stripe. It's pretty popular for gamejams.
Going by the rules, they allow adult games, but I don't know how well that holds.

>>168051254
dude where's the tits the pussy and the dick

jk but are you making animated battlers? because if you don't make this character twitch a little it's wasted

>>168051567
The original game used static sprites. I'm planning on remaking the game with animations and shit tho, and yeah that's basically what I was going for

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>>168051254
Remind me a little of her.

>>168050616
If you're worried/actually care, why not just have the enemy fall for a female party member?

>>168050834
You right, controversy is good publicity.
>>168052892
The only female party members are anthropomorphic animals, that'd make it even weirder.

>>168053319
> implying that isn't weird already

Do you stay alive if I hug you?

>>168056851

Huh uh.

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Pick your fav

>>168059209
Second

>>168059209
White and brown.
Or all brown.
Brown is my favorite color.

>>167971160
fuck, even if its under a thousand breaking even is daunting.

guess it's back to making something for the fun of it.

>>168059209
I like the yellow and red (middle upper). Yellow and purple just work well together.

>>167937639
>Kite
nice

>

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Stay Alive

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What color should i make this piece of shit?

>>168067930
green-ish

>>168067930
Either >>168068063 or some kinda seahorse colour scheme.

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>>168068063
>>168068164
This kind?

>>168068773
I can dig it.

bump : )

just bought a drawing tablet today, anons.
I'm gonna make it!

>>168076469
That's great!
Which one did you buy?

>>168076827
The Huion 1060 Plus. I was very close to buying a Wacom but I liked the physical buttons and size of the Huion.

Also bump

Any mechanic/feature I should absolutely include in my game?

>>168080259
Choices

>>168080259
Russian roulette minigame.

>>168080595
Not him but I can actually use that.

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>>168080259

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Just redid my game's store.

It needs a name though. What would you call your store?

>>168084565
What kind of store is it?
Does it sell lolis?

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>>168084683
A general store.

So how do you come up with a good game name and dev alias?

>>168077582
You fucked up son.

>>168084887
What? Why? I've heard good things about it.

>>168084832
>LoliMart
Perfect

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>>168085413
But in the North American version of the game it will probably be edited to this.

>>168085120
Wacom is the Coca-Cola of tablets, everything else is store-brand.

>>168085587
That's not even true anymore, not even for the Cintiq

>>168085587
Well I would that that is probably true, I felt confident that Huion would be the Dr. Pepper.

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>>168085542
All you have to do is introduce a character named Delores, the woman who founded the store and named it after the nicknames her friends used for her, this is obviously the most reasonable course of action

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>>168087432
Alternatively they could be from the Loli region of Indonesia and named it after their old hometown, it's a flawless excuse