aesthetic edition
Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to MtG
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)
Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/
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Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed)
FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
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Netdeck and Meta trends:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
http://game-ai.jp/
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Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1
Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#
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Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing
All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U
Art package (Basic, Classic, DE, ROB):
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs
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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872
Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/
Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html
last: >>167817610
>he doesn't main rune
Founded in 2016, Roach Forest was built on the principle of serving fast and easy wins at a reasonable price. 43 months later, nothing has changed and Roach Forest still continues to be the score leader in the leaderboards
>be me
>a highly intelligent player who is picky about quality and value
>often looking for a exciting new deck
>try Roach Forest on a whim
My friends I tell you, it was one of the best decks I have stomped with. The crisp combos mixed with the cute and attractive cards. The easy board clears, the hot and always lethal Roaches, totally blown away.
I was able to get a value deck for 1500 Crystals and 3000 Vials and they even complimented my my visa card. They don't let male cards touch the deck, and they also have Arisa.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12293083
>>167860960
>Enjoy Shadowverse
>shows diarrhea
What did they mean by this?
>>167860994
>using vampy's slave name
>t5 levi raped
>t6 daria
>t7 daria
I want off this ride.
>>167860960
I have self respect.
Need a concede
72710
>>167860964
>roach fag thinks hes a patrician
>playing turn 2 yurius against elf
>>167860960
>they're actually fucking advertising daria now
this game is finished
I don't feel like doing dailies today.
I don't have 4 hours to spend getting 7 fucking wins.
>>167861103
Just lethal them bro
>>167861119
Thanks bud
>>167861152
fug
>>167860960
>advertising cancer
They are not going to nerf it, right?
Luna is really looking for new tomodachis huh.
>>167861152
>4 hours
It should only take 70 minutes if you're playing roach. But I guess you can't do math, so that's out of the question.
I want more 1 drops
>>167861152
>tfw had 7 game daily today
>just did them all with otk roach and daria and forced people to early concede
Give me the best shadow deck
>>167861381
>implying I even have AE or roaches
>>167861361
No, they'll just make it obsolete next expansion and advertise the next OP deck.
>>167861361
They never were. One only needed to look at the caught whales to know that it wouldn't happen.
>>167860960
I fucking knew they were just going to shill her instead of nerfing her
Get ready for Zoi 2.0
>>167861445
Add goblin.
>You are playing aggro shadow against presumably Roach OTK. It's turn 2. This is your hand and the current board state.
What do you do?
>>167861445
>no florals in aggro
elves best girls
arisa best girl
>>167861498
We're going to know true cancer when every class has a turn 4 4 damage board clear.
>>167861543
Punch her in the dick and drop conjurer
>>167861543
Trade into a fairy and play a conjurer
>>167861543
Fuck your mom in her shitlocker.
>>167861669
Just bouncing multiple cards regardless of cost would be fine against Daria.
>>167861543
Kill a fairy, drop a 2. Hope you draw a resentment to deal with Ancient elf.
>>167861543
suck Arisas dick
>>167861498
>>167861505
This game will legit die.
Who is best girl and why is it Mordecai?
What happens if you lose your placement matches? I've never had it happen.
How do I counter Jade Shaman?
>>167861972
You do it again
>>167861972
You start them over again
>>167861972
Your game deletes istelf
>>167858705
>control is the strongest
not with 0 homecoming and board clear with 5 damage to the face on t4
The only reasons control is being played a lot and it's "strong" are Daria and roach
>>167861731
Correct
>>167861781
>Resentment
>Aggro
U wot? Nonetheless still correct, and he did drop Elf on turn three.
>>167861869
>tfw the steam numbers are slowly dropping and this general is getting slower
>>167861973
OTK Roach just ignores the golems and goes face, try that
>>167861467
>Daria
I want to win 7 games, not brick horribly and get destroyed by other Darias who of course got perfect hands.
>>167862097
Consider resentment, even in aggro. 4 damage for 2 mana is ridiculous.
>>167861869
>>167862101
Cygames never intended for this game to compete with HS, it was just a meme sideproject.
>>167861485
Seconding this request
>>167862318
>>167862101
>tfw you fell for the shadowverse meme
Reminder to do practice on elite against every class for 1200 gold.
>>167861869
>>167862101
>>167862318
>>167862437
>manage to survive 6 Hearthstone expansions before getting bored with the game and dropping it forever
>can't already feel the Shadowverse fatigue two expansions in
Why is this game so bad, holy shit
>>167862437
>spent 60 dollar on a meme with anime tiddies
>>167862318
It's was the #2 grossing online CCG for 2016 at almost a third of HS's revenue.
>>167862580
>HS is shit
>still literally 3x times as profitable
What does that make SV?
>>167862528
Thinking a turn is over with 0pp and then they drop 2 oglers and a blade mage really does a number on you mentally.
>>167862639
Not-a-Blizzard game
>>167862639
How does profitable translate to good?
To you watch Big Bang Theory?
Do you listen to the top 100 charts?
Do you buy CoD every year?
>MAKE A DARIA DECK
>LOSE 3K POINTS
>>167862707
>To you watch Big Bang Theory?
>Do you listen to the top 100 charts?
>Do you buy CoD every year?
How do you know those aren't good? Have you tried them or are you just being contrarian?
Sorry for the blogpost, I'm just really happy. Just hit level 100 with Sword, and AA0 at the same time.
Aggro sword carried the shit out of me for A3. I think I won about 15 out of the 20 last games I did, when I was losing a bunch with roach, daria, and ramp dragon
I'm really just happy that I can meme it up and not worry about my rank for a while!
>>167862554
Please don't shitpost using images of my wife
>>167862789
post yourprincessdick
>>167862464
t-thanks
>>167862789
>avant blader
>>167862787
I watched big bang theory 5 or sth years ago on TV sometimes, to be honest it wasnt the worst I have seen but the jokes really do get stale fast
CoD 1,2 were good but afterwards it went to full garbo
And no I cant sit through the charts anymore, radio in the morning tilts me enough
>tfw curving so perfectly as cSword that it looks like aggro
Albert is the man.
>>167862528
>>167862437
Don't worry fags when the game will die some other shitty ccg will take over to fill the void.
SHADOW DECK
>>167862789
That's what I thought too until I couldn't stop winning. Now I'm in this shithole that is 2/3rd the way through AA2. Can't escape worrying about your rank until masters.
>>167862938
This deck literally never runs out of steam. Avant Blader into Maid Leader into Avant Blader into Maid Leader into Avant Blader into Maid Leader into Albert wins games.
Concede please
76125
83813
Need a concede, please!
(The other number was wrong...)
>>167862789
Congrats, my dude
>>167862097
>I opted to play Lyrial on turn 2, and kill a fairy. Elf is played on turn 3. On turn 3, I played Shadow Reaper, traded my Skull Beast so that I could play a buffed Skeleton Fighter. On turn 4, Ancient Elf goes face. This is the board for turn 4.
What do you do?To the more perceptive anons, I'm aware that fucked up on sequencing Shadow Reaper when suiciding Skull Beast.
I need someone to let me win a private match. Please don't concede.
26562
>>167861869
>>167862101
>>167862318
>>167862437
you should GTFO and stop polluting the thread
>>167863145
please go back discordreddit
>>167862975
yes that is the aggro shadow list.
>>167863095
Play and evolve lyrial, shoot ancient elf, kill ancient elf with a 2/2, hit princess with evolved lyrial, go face with rest.
>>167863057
Thanks
>when you have 6 shadows turn 6 against unga sword
1v1 me bro
50732
5/20 no concede
>>167863095
Why didn't you drop rabbit on curve? You had 2 2drops you could've played on turn 4.
What the hell happened??? Why are we hating SV now?
Goodbye dust. It's time to craft Cerbs and Shadow Reapers.
Nep winning games
>>167857518
>stall until turn 9
>die
>>167863462
Because shit balance.
>>167863462
I'm almost sure Blizzard is doing an online campaign where they try to slander SV to stop it from becoming bigger. They're actually afraid. There are many posts on the hsg general telling people to save up money for the new expansion, how great it is going to be, and how all their problems are going to be fixed.
We've seen it happen during the elections, it wouldn't surprise me if it's happening here as well. Just slander away the opposition.
>>167863496
Shit, forgot the image:^)
>>167863380
tyty good sir
>>167863641
I think you are borderline delusional, real talk man.
>>167863656
>falling for aggro shadow meme
You gonna regret it.
>>167862789
Congrats fellow swordsman. I hope you can reach Masters soonI'm only 1k away from it
May the Princess bless us all.
>>167863462
Tempo Rune happened and fucked the game up. Fuckers from Cygames refuse to nerf any of the cards from this fucking deck and the next expansion will powercreep everything instead.
The game is doomed.
>>167863462
i thought we've always hated sv
>>167863462
>>167863751
If you think like that.
Why you are playing CG?
>>167863462
Its just a few vocal /hsg/ babbys who are too dumb to play this game.
>>167863641
take a break from the internet
>people tell me to play Dorothy for ranked daily
>go 1st in my 4 first games
>lose to control blood
>lose to another Dorothy because she went 2nd
>lose to fucking Elana Seraph which I've never seen since RoB hit until now.
Fuck this deck and especially fuck anyone who go 2nd and gets a perfect hand with it when I play against it.
aggroblood shitter here. how do I build albert.dek for cheap? I pulled two of his ass recenty
>>167863095
>On turn 3, I played Shadow Reaper, traded my Skull Beast so that I could play a buffed Skeleton Fighter.
>reaper is 1/1
>you traded the skull beast before you dropped the reaper
D rank?
>>167863462
Haven ruined the game and there's no turning back
>>167863548
good work, anon-kun!
>>167863728
I'm missing 8 legendaries and 7 golds. What else am I going to do with that dust?
>>167863889
If you have alwida the only legos and golds necessary are albert and alwida.
>>167863751
>Tempo Rune happened and fucked the game up.
>t,scrublord
>>167863904
>complaining about CTx
>>167863904
Haven has the lowest win rate in masters, wake up dude. Get over the fact that you lost a few times to themis or seraph.
>>167863807
I used to have fun playing them but i'm not sure anymore.
>>167864013
I pity you if you think that all the shit that Daria does is fine.
>>167864013
>Build a deck specifically for tempo rune
>Still lose if they nutdraw
>>167864120
Haven never had a good winrate.
>>167864214
>playing to not lose instead of playing to win
You only have yourself to blame
>mfw i bought vania because she's cute and i like the sleeve
>mfw i don't even play blood
Did i just waste 5 packs?
>>167863973
Probably have one. Might craft them If I have enough essences later today. thanks my dude!
Kripp is playing Shadowverse tonight!
>>167864315
fuck.
low ranks is infested in daria shitters.
he should play neph or chemo
>>167864272
>tomorrow
underage edgelord spotted. everyone knows Yotsuba B is the only good theme
>>167863227
Partial credit. I also played a Dark Conjurer for the extra point of damage.
>It's turn 5. Forest plays Feena, evolves, plays gobu, and trades into evolved Lyrial.
Your move. Easy Peasy.
>>167863227
Because having a stealthed body that grows is better against a ward that might get Sylan Justiced.
>>167864275
What? Building a deck for 18% of the ladder is a smart idea. What did you mean by this?
>>167864372
>killing your eyes
nigger are you srs
>>167864362
>chemo
You realize Haven is more popular than any other craft in B-A right?
>>167864423
>B-A
Lmao who the fuck cares about the shitter brackets dude
>>167864493
Read the guy I'm quoting. He said low ranks.
>game has powercrept more in 2 expansions than most card games have in their entire lifetimes
>devs don't give a shit and will "fix" balance issues with even more power creep
>/svg/ will defend this because m-muh waifus
>Havenscum acting like their shit doesn't stink again
>>167864616
Fuck off if you don't like it.
Still waiting on Isabelle rape doujins.
>>167864616
>every class gets power crept
>every class is still on the same powerful
OH NO SOMEBODY STOP CYGAMES THEY'RE BREAKING THEIR GAME
>>167864493
kill yourself
>>167864394
play reaper
trade conjurer into feena
evo lyrial chip gobu
play conjurer to kill gobu with ghost
everything else goes face (8 damage)
Which means the field can't be cleaned up by WotF, if they kill everything on board save the 2nd reaper, you'll still win.
If they ward, you rabbit evo it through and win.
What's a good storm haven deck?
>>167864616
>game has powercrept more in 2 expansions than most card games have in their entire lifetimes
[Citation needed]
my first ranked match in beginner 0 :)))
>>167863462
its hs cucks concern trolling
>>167864763
>every class is still on the same power level
>implying
>>167864616
>>game has powercrept more in 2 expansions than most card games have in their entire lifetimes
Are you sure about that?
>tfw dragon is legitimately tier 1
>no one complains because is expensive
Today is a good day
>>167864372
You know that everyone here is a weeb who sits in a dark room 24/7, yes? Yotsuba is terrible on the eyes.
>>167864394
Whoa dude these decisions looks HARD
Really shows that aggro shadow is a thinking men's deck
>>167864904
You are so dense. Literally every class is seeing representation right now. If anything, Dragon and Blood may be a bit on the weaker side, but overall the meta is so healthy that I have no idea how you guys can complain.
@167864616
>>game has powercrept more in 2 expansions than most card games have in their entire lifetimes
not even good bait
>>167864409
>>167865017
How does soft blue fuck your eyes? You're already sitting in front of a screen and they're fucked anyway.
>>167865017
I did it! I believe I got to B0 in just under 120 games total (including loses)
>>167865017
I see you have posted a cute anime girl. Are you a cute anime girl? Are you single?
>>167865179
>@
I know you're baiting, but God damn does this rile me up every time
>>167864801
What I use for dailies.
>>167865289
ayyy i just hit it last night with the same deck
>>167865064
This, you really have to tune out the /svg/ whining. I grinded a good 2k points at AA2 yesterday and the variety was great. Rune is a bit disproportionately high but even then I played against a few dshift and dirt decks so it's not like it's all the same. You just can't compare thismto Hearthstone right now where even if you play 3 games and run into Warrior, Rogue, and Shaman in a row they're basically playing the same cards anyway.
>>167865289
here are my stats. I played the last the last 12 games with OTK roach as my opening pack deck just couldn't make it to trials.
>>167865289
>>167864394
>elf trades feena into evolved lyrial instead of reaper
Stop posting stories from D rank man.
>>167865438
>Warrior, Rogue, and Shaman
Hearhtstone is not class based eveything is the same all the classes are pirate right now
>>167865438
>38% shaman at ranks 5 to 1
Seriously fuck Hearthstone's devs
>>167865438
It's not that bad guys.
>>167865062
I said it was easy peasy, you illiterate retard.
>>167864794
Actually, it was
>Evolve Lyrial, ping Feena
>Play Conjurer
>Kill Feena with Ghost
>Play Reaper
>SMOrc for 9
Forest played Fairy Circle, Fairy, Fairy, trade gobu into a Conjurer, Ancient Elf, concede
>>167865220
That's because you're a poorfag. When you have a REAL monitor, light colors hurt your eyes, regardless of the lighting of your room.
>>167865589
>everyone have more than 10% in ladder
>while in hs everyone is pirate decks
>>167865338
that's partly the reason I started doing that actually, not to anger you specifically of course
>>167865589
>every other class has equal playrate
>rune is the only outlier
could be better but it's not the end of the world
>>167865665
so download flux
>>167865589
double secret tier 1
>>167865589
Do remember that the Hearthstone data on the left is an improvement from last week. Shaman's numbers were higher last week because it included the last day of the season where everyone tried to grind a bit higher with aggro Shaman. This week includes the first week of the season so everyone's moved to more fun decks, and by that I mean they moved from pure aggro Shaman to midrange Shaman or pirate Warrior.
>>167865758
>implying that everyone have vials to craft the TIER 1 dragon deck
>>167865821
Plus, that's all ranks including meme ones. It's much worse at any competitive rank
>>167865931
Bang? with my boom
>>167865931
Yes, I would murder her.
>>167865665
>not knowing f.lux
>>167865931
Yeah, she's really good looking for an Asian girl.
>>167865626
Really what rank is this that kills an evolved lyrial over a reaper?
>>167866014
>>167865931
I would bang her and boom inside her.
>>167865931
No
>play aggro shadow against rune
>kaleidoscope
>kaleidoscope
>kaleidoscope
>think it's fucking Dshift
>it's actually turn 8 daria
>still lose because those fucking bounces fucked up my early game
Another cancer card in a cancer craft.
>>167866123
midA0
>>167865589
Makes me wonder why devs don't nerf their mistakes. It's obviously broken so fix it.
All Daria needed was a nerf on her spellboost power, lower Levi's stats to 3/3 when evolved and nerf piercing rune to 2 mana. Nothing out of this world, just simple power creep correction. That alone would make tempo witch way less overpowered.
>>167866187
I go back and forth on kaleidoscope vs magic missile. I can't tell which is better across the field
>>167865931
Give money to an interdimensional hobo? No.
>>167866283
"Hey guys, this seems a little too strong let's tweak a little bit."
>retarded 2k dollars worth whales start coming in and whaling for Daria
"Let's not"
And that's why Daria will never be nerfed.
>>167866187
the extra card draw is more salt to the wound
>>167866512
What? How do you whale for Daria? This isn't a gacha game.
>>167866512
Do you truly believe in that?
>>167865931
Who is this whore and where can I find more of her?The cosplayer not dorothy.
>>167866512
Letting the game die while people lose interest in a game obviously in a broken state is any better though?
>>167866568
They whale for a full animated deck.
>>167866629
Which is 100% cosmetic and is on them.
>>167866568
This guy dropped like 2.5k in one sitting going for a full animated daria set.
>>167866512
they just don't need to nerf their waifu, daria is very powerful but the deck can be toned down in other places
>>167866187
>Reaper gets big and strong because Runefag Levi+Piercing Runed me
>He just kaleidoscopes it
Delete Runecraft
>>167866675
They can just nerf piercing rune,orgler,mahou,old man,kaleido and no one would blame daria
God haven is such a cancer craft
I'm so tired of playing Cancerverse where every match is against Rune or Haven
>Finally pull Otohimes
>It's post-RoB
Oh well.
need no concede match
95019
>>167866652
Sure, but if you nerf Daria you lose out on that ludicrous spending.
idk, we're the minority audience here, what do the japs and gooks actually think about the meta?
>>167866569
>>167866624
>>167866675
Let me repeat
Multiple sources of $2,000 from Daria. They have no incentive to change it.
>>167866665
This guy wasn't the only one if I what I heard on /svg/ is correct.
I think this card needs to evolve do 3 damage to an enemy.
>>167866765
>I'm so tired of playing Cancerverse where every match is against Rune or Haven
Are you a Roach player, then?
>>167866843
Have it reduce the cost of another card in your hand to 1 and I agree.
Post your legendary collection.Can anybody beat 83?
>>167866735
>piercing and kaleido
Please don't do what yugioh did to dragunity. Don't kill rest of rune just to nerf out daria
>>167866765
getting buttmad at decks that beat daria is dumb
>>167866816
They hate it too.
>>167866843
>2 drop evo to do 3 damage to board or face
cygames would never do it
>>167866919
>>167866919
How much did you whale fagget?
>>167866919
Let me finish this game real quick then I'll show you what a big boy collection looks like.
rly boils my noodles......
>>167866946
>the cancer that I use is acceptable because it beats the cancer I don't like
Being autistic about Daria is dumb
>>167866816
>>167866835
You're free to believe that but it's pretty stupid. First off for the vast majority of the playerbase a Daria nerf doesn't mean anything to them because you get full vial return on the card. Second you're assuming that those whales spent all that money for that deck specifically and didn't want to just throw their money around for some attention building whatever deck was considered the best in full animated form. And third the idea that they're only in it for this one full animated deck is stupid because card-for-card this deck has a shelf life of three months max anyway since who knows what the next expansion brings. SV made $100 million last year, we have that number. You think if a few guys don't spend $2k each because Daria is nerfed they're going to go under?
>>167866675
Cap all the spellboost follower to 1PP minimum and the deck is alright.
Levi and Piercing Rune are annoying, but seeing power plays at T3-T5 with muh 0PP folllowers is really what's retarded in the deck, by far. Efficient board clears or efficient minions, one or those two has to go.
>>167867010
Only sixty dollaru.
>>167867084
>wahhhh people play good decks because they want to win
glory be! the butthurt tears of cucks only make her stronger
>haven is worse than dragon since the start of the game
>just because they have some good matchups /svg/ still cries
>>167867127
>Efficient board clears or efficient minions, one or those two has to go.
That's what I don't like about the deck either. They get free(0-cost) board floods while also punishing you for playing followers with burn damage.
>>167866787
tyty
I am in love with this deck, it so fun to play. If you haven't tried it yet I highly encourage that you do!
>>167867242
Yes! keep killing the game!
You guys weren't lying. Daria is pretty hard to play but it pays off.
gonna do it
somebody drop a good list
I want to use three
>>167866919
>>167867052
Fuck, I lied. You beat me by 1.
>>167867242
Animated version of this webm where
>>167867593
I'm stuck in AA1 because of this deck.
>>167867593
Which version? 2378 or 2478?
>>167867792
literally in the op dude.
>>167867770
>4 atomy
>4 lotf
>4 AE
>4 alex
You're sitting on 4k vials, anon.
Why the fuck do I encounter more tier 1 decks in Unranked than ranked? this is rank D3 too, what the fuck
>>167867634
>50% win ratio
>>167867770
upload that animated eidolon please, the evolved looks so nuts
>>167867867
Where
Anyone got a working Control Sword list?
>>167867242
>Havenfags
What deck that isn't dogshit against everything else beats Elana?
>TRIALS BEGIN
Oh boy
Do I even want to enter A rank with a 10 day old account?
Or should I stop playing ranked for the rest of the month?
>>167868391
Dirt Rune?
>>167867963
You mean 13k
>>167867770
Wait nvm I beat you by 3.
>>167867963
I'm running low so maybe I should dust them.
>>167868424
Please don't rank up with Dragoncraft.
It's literally hell up here in AA.
>>167868391
nothing its le chemo for everything xdd
>>167868493
Where is the difference I only meet netdecks in B anyway
But yeah I guess you're right
>>167868573
Dragon literally cannot win in AA.
>>167868637
Shadowfag here, I literally cannot win in AA either.
Let's make a suicide pact.
OH GOD NO
NOT LIKE THIS
ROWEN WHAT ARE THESE MEMES?
>>167867848
After some help from some nice anons, I came up with this list. It runs the 2478. Also I can guarantee you will always have enough shadows for that turn 6 Deaths Breath !
>Don't even feel like doing the dailies for my 2 favourite classes
It's all over
>>167868172
My list.
Unica and 2pp ward out of screen
>lel no baha and odins
I"m trying to counter Roach and Daria
>>167866919
85 here.
Yes, I can't use Photoshop.
>>167868764
That suite me, I don't even have odins.
>>167868424
>Do I even want to enter A rank with a 10 day old account?
It's too late. Once you enter trials, there's no going back.
>>167868746
Is there any way to make those cards work? They seem like they could be fun
>>167868746
>dragon have a badwinrate because sucks
>>167868764
Agreed, Baha and Odin are fucking meme. Why no maid though? Gelt is trash.
>>167868637
Where do you guys come up with this shit?
>>167868883
D-Shift
>>167868927
>gelt
Still testing with good results, maid can be good but need to be played out of curve.
dropping a 2pp 1 1 against most of fast decks is suicide.
>>167868764
Begginer 1? This list is shit.
>>167864926
>posts a game where nothing matched the power level of set 1
>>167868927
Not him but Maid is trash in this high damage meta. 1/1 at 2pp is too weak of a board presence.
>>167862639
Shadowverse wasn't released until the second half of 2016, it spent half the year making $0.
>>167869141
>maid is trash
>>167869146
In the US or worldwide? If not worldwide fuck off.
>>167869086
Jazum Djinn was in the Arabian Nights set, which was literally the first Magic expansion, and that is by far not the most broken set.
>>167869262
>taking shit out of context
Well fuck you too.
>>167869262
Dropping maid against daria/roach/aggro in turn 2 is a big tempo loss. I rather summon 2/2 vanilla to trade into something.
>>167863641
is SV trump?
MCGGA
>>167869086
What is Memory Jar?
What is Urza's block?
>>167869382
>>167869447
Not mulling maid lmao, no wonder you guys are stuck in low ranks.
>>167869267
you can google this you fucking mong
>>167869267
Worldwide, we got it the same time Japan did.
>>167869516
Stop putting words into my mouth C1.
>>167869458
Yes
>deck has no draw
>cut some of the only draw it has
>>167869585
WELL THEN?
>>167869708
https://mmos.com/news/digital-ccg-hearthstone-earns-395m-2016-shadowverse-100m
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/return-nationals-and-changes-grand-prix-2017-02-09
For the 2 or 3 guys that play Magic here
>Wizards brings back Nationals
>Kills Modern (no more premiere events)
I feel really good because this fucks in the ass all these smug modern players on my store.
All of them literally are going to drop the game and fuck off.
>its another /pol/ spills over episode
>>167869708
I recognize this semen demon
>>167870007
And remember, if you don't want /pol/ shitting all over the place you're a cuck.
>>167869938
I ain't clicking that shit nigga you think I'm retarded? Copy and paste the text.
>>167869685
Csword want to curve well and drop wards against agressive decks.
>>167870081
>>167870007
Gabriel is super cute! I remember running Gabriel in Tempo Forest for half of DE for surprise fairy lethals. Who knew she was worthless netoge addict?
>>167870007
Reruns again I see.
>>167870006
>I feel really good because this fucks in the ass all these smug modern players on my store.
It kind of makes me glad that I completely sold out of the game when I did. Modern was my favorite format too.
>>167869708
>>167869632
>>167868754
>>167866787
>>167865931
>>167863943
this is why dems lost the election
>>167870006
Can you explain this for people who don't plat MtG? Why is modern bad? Are you a grandpa?
>>167870453
leave luna-chan out of this
>>167870520
The name modern is actually kind of misleading at this point. It was a format made long time ago to split really old cards from cards that were new during the time.
At this point modern is kind of like wild in hearthstone because many moons passed since the first creation of modern format.
>>167870453
>lost
>>167870874
sorry didn't realise there were still any haven players around
>>167870857
>>167870520
And they've now murdered any possibility for new players to get into a competitive format other than standard. It's a hilariously bad decision
>>167871013
To be honest, my suggestion to new players is always draft.Also, isn't there that meme format frontier or something :^)
>>167870520
Standard
>play only with the 4 or 5 most recent sets, after 2 years shit rotates out and you need to make a new deck using cards from newer sets
Modern
>eternal format where shit never rotates out and you almost play with all the sets, regardless of being old or new
The problem with Modern is that the format is out of control, you have cards and combos that kill you on turn 3, literally doesn't let you play, or combo you into auto losing.
Is so fucked up that every time that Wizards tries to balance it something goes terribly wrong, or some new degenerate deck arises.
Wizards loves standard because it forces people to buy new cards constantly.
Wizards hates modern because the format is fucked up and people with eternal decks never buy new cards.
Also modern decks cost around $1000 to $2000 , because old staples are expensive as fuck.
The playerbase is literally composed of angry granpas with expensive decks mad at everything new.
>>167870006
>Modern dead
THANK GOD
>>167871013
There's always Legacy
>>167871448
That's why I said new. It was possible to get into Modern. An expensive initial investment, but cheaper than building the new standard deck every season. Legacy is just fucking insane, though.
>>167871526
Most of the good Modern decks broke $1k already, legacy wasn't that much more. A brand new player wasn't going to drop $600-800 on a "cheap" modern deck
>>167871378
>Also modern decks cost around $1000 to $2000
>>167871378
>$1000 to $2000
You guys can complain but at least SV is good to new players
>>167871778
Digital CCG players don't know how good they have it. I've spent $46 on shadowverse and have close to the whole card set (mostly missing meme cards) and am sitting on 3600 rupies already for next expansion. I miss MTG as a game but I don't miss the price.
I don't feel like playing Daria for this shit, any other viable deck in ranked?
>>167871942
D shit maybe?
>>167871924
>b-but its an investment you'll sell them back for more later
>>167871942
Rank is important
AA3 or above? Play Dshift
Below? Earthrite
>>167871942
>everything has to be played in ranked
you guys are retarded
Have you prayed today /svg/?
>>167872058
Might as well get my season rewards while doing this shit
>>167870006
>>167871013
>>167871448
The article only states they phasing Modern out of the World Magic Cup. The format isn't dead. There are still Modern Grand Prixes.
>>167870603
Luna is Hillary Clinton of Shadowverse
>>167872036
It depends on the format you play. Some are money sinks, some you can break even, some you can potentially profit (usually depending on what new cards get printed). The average is definitely a loss though.
>>167872119
Glory be!
>>167871942
Dshift if you are a faggot.
Dirtrune if you don't mind 30+ turn games and want to spend all day on your dailies.
Conjuring force if you are a memelord.
>this game
https://a.pomf.cat/ufpuod.mp4
>>167872036
You can. But it's not an absolute certainty since even in modern, cards can fall out of favor or have reprints. And it is still a shit ton of money you're "investing" to play 1 deck in a card game.
>>167871860
>>167871778
>>167872036
>>167872251
>>167871924
Yeah, digital card games are literally a bliss from heaven, you will never get as milked as real life card game players.
Pic fucking related
Abzan $2000
Jund $2000
Afinitty $700
Bant Eldrazi $800
Tron $600
Burn $800
And most Tier 2 decks are on the 500 to 1k range too.
Now that I think about it, Im literally sitting on like $300 worth of some modern staples like Nobles and some lands. I should sell that shit.
>>167872251
It doesn't. The entire thing is a ponzi scheme reliant on the growth of the game. Like all ponzi schemes, if you get out early enough you can make a profit, but it's not an investment.
>>167872330
What a disgusting deck.
>>167872391
>4 copies of goyf and veil lili are a must
JUST
With how rampant Saha Dragon is at the moment, would Nep actually have over 50% win rate now? I'm not seeing many Seraph and DShift which are what really dragged Nep down
>>167872330
Why all blood legos are so shit?
>>167872330
How do you record like that?
>>167872391
So this is how true p2w looks, huh.
>>167872395
The people who think it's an investment are definitely retarded. I was just saying it's not completely improbable to get your money back, though it's much more likely you'll lose. Depending on the format you're going to lose no matter what.
>>167872572
It's probably not rampant enough. But yes more Ramp Dragons make Nep better.
>>167872572
Some saha ramp runs 3 odins
>>167872330
How.
>>167870453
General is slower lately. Daria? Meta in general? HSfags went back like flies to shit?
>>167873187
There's simply nothing new to discuss, Anon. No new cards, nerfs news, anything.
>>167872638
Indeed, when I read people calling Cygames "jews" for adding alternate arts for cute girls that you can already get for free, I laugh a little inside.
Competitive modern magic is literally the definition of p2w
>buy 1k worth of paper or don't even bother playing in tournaments because the powerlevel of your deck is shit
The fact that you can play shadowverse for free, and make several tier 1 decks grinding and never spending money is something completly unheard of, even when comparing it to other online card games.
>>167872330
>he fell for the cucktrol blood meme
>>167873187
removal meta is removing players
>>167873187
The meta has been by far the worse it has ever been right now.
>>167872635
I just use OBS with my replay of that game.The replay actually bugs out at the end, doesn't show me using dogma to win with seraph, but we all know it happened.
>>167873080
He probably drew all the reactive cards in his deck
>>167873187
There isn't anything to talk about.
All complaints about the meta have been done by now and nothing is going to change until next expansion.
Literally all that there is left to do is MOOOOM post and waifu post.
you have 10 seconds to fix the game with a single change
>>167873435
i don't think you can say that objectively, though I acknowledge why people would think that. Personally I agree, but you can make a strong case for why DE and even vanilla were worse.
>>167873508
>spoiler
That's pretty impressive, I'll give you that. Where did you pull the Seraph and Dogma from?
>>167873647
I fire the guy that came up with all the cards for this expansion
There, I fixed SV
>>167873647
Followers can't go past 1pp.
>>167873647
Daria costs 11pp
Levi goes to +1/1 on evolve
Piercing Rune costs 5pp, reduces to 2pp
Ogler costs 6pp
You could do this and the deck would still be playable
>>167873435
Destroying midrange/tempo was the stupidest shit. Taking it down a peg is fine if it dominates Masters, but giving overly strong removal to everyone while introducing a deck that randomly breaks the traditional power curves established by the game since day 1 was just retarded. The worst part is that a removal meta either has to be powercreeped to change or they have to admit that they fucked up and scale it back (and the devs have shown to be way conservative on change).
>>167873647
Instants. Bam, done.
>>167873435
t. Havenfilth
>>167873647
Add new leaders
>>167873741
You don't play Daria, do you. I hate the deck too but it's not exactly playable after those nerfs.
>>167873647
Roach costs 3 mana.
>>167873954
GET OUTTTTTT
>>167873805
>Saving pp and playing under curve is now a strategic point of the game
>apm is relevant
I like it
I'm still at it. Nep is kicking ass
>>167874038
>b-but the ladder is only rune
>>167860960
i wonder if gwent is good
>>167874038
2378?
Is Vania virgin?
>>167874186
>dubcucks
>>167874076
It's not, they took a minigame in a single player rpg and are now trying to hamfist competitive mechanics into it.
>>167874038
People were way too quick to write the deck off after the initial buzz. With Dragon use rising and Dshift less popular, the deck has firmly landed as a strong tier 2.
>>167874150
I posted my list earlier
I'm the same guy.
>>167868750
>>167874186
>thousand years old vampire
She's a slut, at least Urias has class.
>>167866919
>>167867770
how much money have you spent on this game?
>>167874186
name one (1) virgin girl in SV
So if i get my phone robbed or my computer explodes how do i get my account back? I saved my user ID just incase so im guess if i have this im all good to go on new devices
>>167873794
Reminder that Daria is the last bastion of midrange in the game, and nerfing it will make the game devolve into aggro monkeys flinging their shit at each other.
>>167874262
also seraph less popular, because of the rise of roaches.
>>167874038
Dick out now fagit
>>167874319
Eris
>>167874348
Daria is the last bastion of midrange because she cannibalized all of the others
Can someone post a good csword list? AA3 or aboive only please.
>>167874319
This fox.
She's very pious.
>>167874319
Erika.
packs
>>167874000
still viable as an alternate win con in tempo, wolf bolt, and rose queen decks :^)
>>167874348
I think the meta would more shift to Aggro, Control, and Dshift trifecta of power. Aggro decks can easily run out of gas against a control (or midrange) deck with the right build.
>>167874319
Erika because the princess only lets her watch.
>>167874076
complete shit, don't even bother
>>167874623
Watch what?
>>167874074
>Cherrypicking screenshots
Dumb ESL
is this game really dying because of daria?
REMOVE DARIA
>>167874702
Yes.
>>167874267
rank?
>>167874573
>sergeant in nep
>>167874702
>dying
lol no
>daria
Only shitters complain
>>167874702
Not dying, but seeing a dip. Roach is just as much at fault though. It's just another OTK deck that stifles creativity.
I have been playing for a few months and vialed nothing but extras. today I went through and got rid of all cards that were just trash and never/will never see play and have 16k vials nowtime to make 1/20th of a blood control deck
>>167874782
2k master.
>>167874792
Yeah I want the guaranteed deaths breath on 6 if I draw it.
>>167874034
Now have to wait 30s each time you play a card to see if the other player wants to cast an instant
This will never happen on a mobile game.
Need a private match win
23627
>>167873805
Lol.
Any game that tries to implement online play with instants is guttertrash, no exceptions.
>>167874858
You shouldn't waste your time with blood.
>>167874462
Even if it didn't, midrange would still be dead because of all the removal. The only reason Daria can survive is because it can outspeed control decks before they have enough pp to play their million removal spells.
The problem is not with Rune, the problem is with Cygames deciding followers shouldn't be allowed to stick.
>>167874860
interesting, I'll play around with it since I've got all the cards, thanks
is bloody mary still good
sorta want to create a blood deck that isnt aggro
>>167874951
Thanks!
>Blood becomes the meme of the expansion AGAIN.
>Forest is tier 1 as always
Funny how quickly things change from week 1 hype.
>>167875157
not as funny as the ramp dragon tier 1 meme
Burning through Daria decks is one of the better feels in this meta.
>>167875157
And dumb retards were bitching about how overstatted Yurius is.at least after something big blood always eat unrefined decks
>>167875108
She's now specifically categorized as a combo control blood variant.
The control blood decks that run several of the new cards have taken out self-damage and bloody to make room for them.
This deck is absolute nuts, I have like 70% winrate the last 3 days with it
>>167874702
It was the same decline as the last month of DE, when the meta was set in stone and people were sick of it. People will come back after the next set. Really though I think Cygames has made a long term mistake by not hitting Roach and some of the Rune cards now. They're going to have to balance new Forest and Rune cards such that they don't make existing decks any stronger; which will lead to a boring expansion for those classes just as RoB barely changed Forest.
>>167875282
Yurius will come back to save the craft. For real next time.
>>167875345
Cygames mistake was giving blitz to sword.
>>167874491
>good csword list
They are all just greedy lists because sword doesn't have draw. Don't expect to win against other control decks and you will barely live against Daria. It's your own choice though.
This is the list I'm using right now. Currently 700 points away from master.
>>167875345
I'd think that art would actually be a spell card.
It'd be bonkers, probably, but it'd still be a spell card.
>>167874307
>a male vamp sleeps around
>"he has class"
>a female vamp sleeps around
>"she is a slut"
triggered!
>>167874319
all the fairies
they are too small for humans and have no male fairies whatsoever
>>167874312
$11. Just for the Queen and Cerb alts.
>>167875108
She was a good idea that wasn't enough to make the shitty Vengeance mechanic good. By the time you can safely drop her, you've already had to play most of the self-damage cards just to survive until that stage.
>Get 2 Pascale
>There's no viable deck with her.
Well fuck, back to spellboosting.
Forest>Rune>Dragon>Sword>Shadow>Haven>Blood
>>167875282
A strong card can be stuck in a bad class. Just look at Khawy.
>OTK roach played more than Daria.
>people still crying about her.
>>167875536
Dirt, retard. There's a Daria variant using her as well.
>>167875478
Women are locks, men are keys. Deal with it, also Urias is WAY hotter than Vania and I'm not even gay.
>>167875536
She's fundamentally flawed as a "win more" design. She'll never be relevant. Shame because I'd her Pascales any time.
>>167875536
Pascale is great for unranked fun. Too bad you are not allowed to keep decent board in this game.
>>167875591
I said viable, not win one every twenty matches.
Concede pls or play blood if you need the 20 private mission.
>>167875525
Actually I found use for her just by slotting in Dire Bond as my only self-damage and then running Uriel. That said, I don't run x3 of her, but there you go.
>>167875282
Yurias is still stupid, he's just stuck in a bad class. Picture that shit in Forest.
>>167875596
>deal with it, also Urias is WAY hotter than Vania and I'm not even gay
Uh huh.
>>167875596
You're a dubcuck which is worse than a homo
Disgusting
>>167875557
>Forest=Rune>Blood=Haven=Sword>Shadow>Dragon
Fixed.
>>167875580
>>167875725
Blood just need more 15 cards to be good
>>167875689
Thanks my dude!
>>167875676
>viable
And as i already said, Dirt.
>>167875557
Correct
>>167875840
D-rank
>deck gets rewarded for tossing spells in your face at full health and cycling with dirt cheap shit
>have to play around extreme burn and be prepared for a full board both at the same time during any part of the game
I want out.
>>167875586
>Muh cancer deck isn't as played as the other cancer deck
>S-she's balanced I swear
>>167875108
i was having moderate success in aa3 by running her with mastema. either mastema brings them low enough for mary combo or they blow all their removal and mary lives.
it was capable of bricking hard against aggro though because i swapped the kisses for razory claws. using her as more of a mind game threat that baits removal and keeping the anti aggro package is probably smarter.
>>167875996
Do I need to show you the door? The deck has barely over a 50% win rate.
>>167875996
You can always switch to Control Blood to wreck Daria and lose to everything else. It's fun!It's actually not fun
>>167875996
Last month i got to the 50k monthly reward, but this month I don't want to even play much because of this very fact. If i get lucky i might get to 12k atleast for sleeves.
>>167875108
You can always drop her as a secret ward. Absolutely no one past C rank will let her live unless they have lethal on you.
>>167875586
Both need to be toned down.
>>167872330
I'm flattered someone is playing my deck, I hope it works out for you! Good luck on the climb.
>>167876140
>Do this
>Still lose to Daria every now and then
>>167875478
He doesn't have class because he sleeps arounds you twat, he has class because he carries himself like so instead of looking kawaii ugu~and being a slut.
>>167876115
>Daria is one third of all decks played on the ladder so you encounter it a lot
>it has absolutely disgusting play style
>other midrange decks can't be played at all because this shit exists
>can oudamage aggro decks while clearing board
>can outlast control decks
>games decided literally on the draw coin flip
>B-B-BUT IT'S ACTUALLY BALANCED BECAUSE YOU CAN LOSE WITH IT
Fuck off shill, you game is fucking dying and you know it
What is the best play here?
>>167876286
I was getting the 70k reward until the past months.
I can barely make it up to 12k now.
Playing just seems like a chore and my favorite craft only has gimped decks that are memes.
>>167876735
>>Daria is one third
is actually 18%
>>167876925
run evolved dark general into iec golen, kill levi with blood wolf, attack face with bat, kill him next turn
Did any of you guys ever get those master point rewards before, i remember them only given out to top 1000 people
>>167876925
evolve dark general, kill ward, hit face with a bat and, trade blood wolf into levi. Next turn emote spam until 3 seconds before turn ends and demonic strike.
>>167877094
Yes, but I'm not touching this month's. Fuck the meta.
>>167876438
So just like every match-up? Even Control decks wins against D-shift sometimes.
>>167875586
>Roach singlehandedly making forest relevant
>Basically have to bet the farm on drawing into a large valued combo, no chance of winning otherwise
>Counterable
>Daria is a strong card among strong cards in rune causing the meta to revolve around trying to beat them
>Can boardflood from T4 onwards
>Can almost win on the back of Levi and piercing rune alone
>Only counter is hoping they brick
>there are so many similar cards in Daria and dshit that you may not actually know which deck it is until turn 5-6
Fuck Rune, aside from dirtrune. You guys are okay I guess. And Snowman decks, though they sadly died thanks to all the mass removal.
>>167877190
>fuck the meta
t. PtP/Elana shitter
>>167877361
t: Dariacancer
>>167877190
sworbb?
>still no survey packs
I got scammed didn't I
>>167877361
Elana without a seraph carry was shit in top 1000 masters in DE. Not sure what you're talking about.
>>167877232
You're going to lose to Daria way more than you're going to beat dshift. I think the cblood match up against dshift is something like 16% winrate.
>>167877508
They did say it would take up to 30 days for the packs to arrive.
>>167877468
But the meta is fine for Sword, though?
>>167877508
>survey packs
Everyone receive 5 days ago
>>167877468
No. Dariabb or roachbb?
>>167877042
This.
People seem to forget Rune is made up of many decks and that Daria is not the only one of these that is played. Dshift and Dirt are both frequently used as well, and even the off variants like PtP and Conjuring Force are very capable in the current environment.
>>167876735
Daria represents 15-20% of the ladder. Dshift and Dirt rune are played as well, and with aggro dying/control growing, dshift will only get more popular with time. You won't escape Rune dominance in this exp.
Daria suppresses other midrange decks, but the truth is that they're dead because boards can be wiped much more easily than before. Lion Spirit, Matriarch, Salabreath, Cyc blade, the list goes on.
Daria aside, the meta is healthy and all the crafts see play. See >>167865589.
>>167877508
I alerady got mine bro
>Play the follower based craft
>Turn 5 can't keep a single follower on board
>Daria drops 17/14 stats on board at turn 5
I guess I will get to master next expansion, maybe.
>>167877597
>But the meta is fine for Sword, thoug
Sword stopped being the noobtrapcraft without banner meme or mid range dominancein low rank
>>167877642
The problem is how all rune decks abuse levi+pierce rune
83365 Can I get a concede? Thanks.
>>167877642
>>167877042
Well shoot, it's only 1/5 the ladder. Never mind there's 7 classes amd a single deck from a class with multiple viable decks is 1/5. Are you Cygames devs?
Rude.
>>167877747
>maid
>bahamut
>>167877642
>even the off variants
Of course they are, Levi + Rune on turn 4 when going 2nd decides many games right there. Rune decks jump a good 10% between going 1st or 2nd; that's how much Levi carries Rune right now.
Mahees in Roach deck. Y/N?
>>167875345
1pp spell, you have vengeance effects for this turn even if you are not in vengeance
>>167877747
>play cucktrol sword
>expect to win
lamo
>>167877905
Is good against mirrors and mahou mahou,levi ,golem
>>167877905
actually sounds decent, replacing it with Tia ?
>>167877747
orb ti simehT tsuJ.
>>167877905
Doesn't kill Zombies, doesn't really do anything to big wards, might as well stick to WotF for clearing purposes or Tia if you want to stall.
>>167877905
Mahees is mediocre because he's an 8-drop unless you burn 0-costs. Some people run that 3/5 that gives 2 faeries instead.
>>167877854
In what magical world every craft/class is played in a 100% balance.
not even fps,rpgs,rts,mmorpg,fight games you can have such balance.
>>167877747
hey this board looks similar, maybe I was that daria
>>167875108
the cheapest cblood decks that i saw ran 2-3 queen vamp, 2 odins and 1 bahamut and no mary
>board control decks literally cannot exist unless it's respawn like shadow's zombie and mordecai mechanics because everyone has board nukes
>single buff tactics are moot because everyone has at least 3-5 removals in their deck
>aggro needs to win before t6 because of haven heals
I don't understand how a game this new can be at this stage already. The only reason most people trade at all is because of evolution. Everything else is a waste of time.
>>167878248
It's probably all our MTG pro devs know.
>>167877854
Are you new to card games?
1/5 is fucking nothing compared to Gear Chronicle presence in Vanguard over the past year, or any dominant deck in YGO for the past decade. If anyone knows what's been going on with Magic or what have you recently, feel free to chime in too, because I'm damn sure the competitive format in Shadowverse could be much, much worse off than it is right now. And in fact, it fucking was for the past two expansions.
>>167876553
vampy doesn't behave kawaii uguu though
go... gooo!
>>167878432
>dominant deck in YGO for the past decade
There's no such thing called balance in YGO the only playable decks are two(2) t1 decks and is done.
>>167878554
>two t1 decks in YGO
Is that even true now to its current state?
From what I've seen it's very plausible to FTK or set up an unbreakable board then OTK using that one predaplant engine.
>>167878432
Here is a list of deck representation from GP top64s that had over 1%.
An earlier anon posted a HS one.
>>167865589
>>167878248
>>aggro needs to win before t6 because of haven heals
this
healing is fucking cancer
with dead midrange do they want everybody playing control and d-shift or what
2pp amulet preventing enemy healing when
>>167879183
desu there's no such thing called control in this game.
every control deck is just mid range with late game cards
>winning a game with ambush deck without ever drawing rogues creed
>win with rousing meme
My butt was so clenched that entire game.
90405
private match daily
>>167879694
thanks tuga bro
Someone explain to me how "control" sword is a control deck when 1/4 of the cards in the deck have storm and it smorcs you on turn 9 if it draws on curve?
Are we Darkness Evolved Sword Meta again?
>>167875157
aggro blood is tier 2 though, it's hardly a meme
Anyone else aiming for that sweet, sweet animated Baha and pile of rupies?
>>167879953
Control sword is different from the others desu.
Csword try to stall with super fat followers like saber frontguard and paladin.
>>167880081
Maybe on gamepress.
>>167880107
Honestly couldn't care less about this non-exclusive "reward" and the rupees aren't enough to tryhard in this Daria/Roach meta.
Might get it anyways without even trying to.
>>167878420
Bringing MTG pros into development was a mistake.
Now the game will progressively get shittier with each expansion until the matches end at turn 3 before either side can evolve.
>Ethereal Form
Do people actually play this?
Encountered it for the first time in t2 and it cucked me out of a win
>tribunal of good an evil
What the fuck? How is this 3 mana?
>>167880147
In theory yeah.
In practice sometimes they just Smorc you with Alwidas, Alberts and Fangblades.
>>167880230
Tyrant and Atomeme decks often uses to win.
>>167880184
on game-ai, gamepress claimed it was t3 right before it had its tourney success, no idea what they claim now
>>167880260
It's 4 mana.
>>167880319
It's back on tier-2. I just checked.
>>167880212
Fair enough.
I don't have a third baha, though, and those rupies could go a long way toward the next expac, so that's reason enough for me.
>>167875536
problem is people are narrow minded and want pascale to have her own board flood wincon for the memes
but the opponent only has 20hp and it only takes one guy with stats worth doubling. i think people should try to experiment with combos more
>>167880260
>how is this 3 mana
Ikr
Fucking cygames should nerf it to 4 mana asap
I'll call them right now and I'll promise you the next time you'll look at that card it'll be 4 mana
>>167880214
>before either side can evolve
Wow, I never thought of that. The unique feature of the game that will slowly become irrelevant because of powercreep. I guess that's a decent fix to the 1st/2nd imbalance problem, right?
>>167880107
It's not animated and its 2500 shekels
>>167880474
>It's not animated
But it is.
>>167878420
>>167880214
>mtg pros
wot
IF control wants go second and aggro wants to be first.
What is the problem?
>he fell for the cblood meme
>>167877353
>play snowman deck
>guy odins a snowman
>kill odin
>guy bahumuts snowmen
>play 5 more snowmen
>concede
It was a funny game.
>>167880260
imagine a deck with the god of democracy, death sentence and also cuckgel, lion and possibly even sledgehammer exorcist
>>167880631
The dev won a tourny and give free packs to everyone
>>167880676
Serves him right for using Trampy as a leader while playing a control deck desu
>>167879953
sword has dogshit healing options so it can't play the "run you out of resources" game that most other control decks can.
>>167860960
Dirt/snowman's okay but Daria is pure cancer.
And fuck them for making dragonbond mage unplayable by being a fucking 7pp 4/2. fuck magisa, Flame witch, okami, mana elk, elf of the gemstones, necropolis queen, wight, etc all for basically never surviving to do shit
>>167861507
Of course, Zoi, Anchira, and the others worked exceptionally well at generating revenue.
>>167861103
>t1 plea
>t2 mainyu
>t3 cloud chorus and face for 2
>t4 2x protectoress/monastic holy water/plea, evolve, and face for 4
>t5 Power of protection, loves gospel and face for 5
>t6 valhallan general/chorus-protection-protectoress jenga and face for 8
>t7 White knight fully heal, trader general into the shit mainyu didn't kill on defense face for 8,
>t8, jeanne and crash board into theirs while facing for 8
>t9 plea/dogma bring in more buffs
>>167880374
>>167880319
>>167880184
>>167880081
As someone who has already played literally hundreds of aggro blood matches this season...
Vampy is pretty weak in this meta. I think tier 2 is pushing it.
Even on perfect curve it still gets destroyed by wards and it has very few answers against the popular aggro decks in this meta.
Demonic storm is just not good enough and too expensive for what it is. Salamander and Cyclone are just infinitely superior.
I love Vampy-chan and I made a legit effort to get top 100 with this deck for the first week of the season.
And that experience left me extremely disillusioned with the deck.
It just isn't very good even though Vampy is a god and I am literally not fit to lick the cheese from between her toes.
>>167880676
vampy is so adorable when she concedes
>>167880790
>vampy
>not control
B0?
I usually win with my ambush deck by OHKO
Should I try and chip away at them more often or is this the right way of going ambush.
>>167880409
Don't get me wrong, the rupees are nice. That's a lot of T2 tickets.
Just not quite enough for me in this meta. Animated Baha too is a good card but I think an exclusive flair or something would have been more incentive honestly.
>>167880834
>Vampy is a god and I am literally not fit to lick the cheese from between her toes
ew
>>167880834
Same situation here anon.
The worst part is how my WR with blood is the best.
>>167880820Is it secretly a midrange deck?
>>167880412
Dshift Pascale?
>>167880820
This. Daria can kill you twice with burn damage without needing to hit you in the face with followers. I can understand csword's urgency.
>>167880912
I'm inlowMasters, actually, thanks for asking :^)
>>167880959
>deck by OHKO
This often happens but against decks like daria for me is better try to abuse the tempo plays.
and always aggro against d-shift
>>167881051
>my WR with blood is the best
and you still complain
you know, i thought aggro blood was weak because i was told so, switched to other decks but then realized i actually have more success with aggro blood and so why not to play what you have the most success with
>>167881209
>ambush deck
>worried about d-shift
any route of play would probably be fine.
>>167876413
>my deck
Uhh excuse me? Made it from scratch boy.
>>167880648
Even when playing aggro going second is great. That's how unbalanced it is.
>>167881209
>>167881372
I'm still a newer player with only 15 hours but what exactly does d shift mean.
>>167881295
>and you still complain
actually i'm good with aggro blood because is comfy for mebut yes blood really need more good cards
>>167880912
Urias is for patricians, Vampy is for low iq unga shitters.
>>167880746
When I saw tribunal's JP name i was really upset they changed it
>>167881295
Don't get me wrong. Aggro blood is a very consistent deck for climbing UNTIL you hit Masters.
But on the Master Ladder it just doesn't have the tools to compete in this meta and maintain a consistent enough winrate to climb with.
>tfw haven't even been playing 2 weeks
>scared of making the jump to A because you can't derank and there's no resets
>all these guys playing 6+ months with almost all cards just waiting to gangrape me in A
Should I just play unranked for a while? I hate this feel.
>>167881495
It's a combo deck where the main goal is using spells to defend yourself until you can play dimension shift in conjunction with followers dropped on the same turn that you use dshift.
Would you trade here?
>>167880834
Aggro blood is easily tier 3.
I haven't tried Sword aggro, but between Blood and Shadow, Shadow is the superior choice. Blood is still playable until AA+ but after that, Shadow is better. Less vulnerable to board clears, more burst, but more dependant on card RNG.
t. AA3 who switched to Shadow after 300 Blood bat games. I'm 2k away from masters, taking a break.
>>167881403
k, Still wish you good luck with it
>>167881051
Why does Cygames hate cuties and make them irrelevant like this?
>>167881495
Is the reason why aggressive meta is so good for control decks in SV
>>167881571
Anon, everyone is using greedy control decks in A3 too
Anyone still have the japanese site with matchup data where we can see decktypes and their winrates versus other decktypes?
>>167881708
i don't get what you mean, d-shift loses to aggro
>>167881836
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
>>167881894
He was talking about other control decks.
>>167881894
>aggro meta
>d-shift is stomped
>no one plays d-shift
>control decks can play the game without being stomped by d-shift
Daria is bullshit but no one want d-shift back
>>167881916
Thank you
>>167869340
first expansion would be set 2
>>167869462
>What is Memory Jar?
comparable to timetwister or wheel of fortune
>What is Urza's block?
name nine cards from urza that are on the same level as p9
>>167881631
nope
>>167881403
Also some advice, if you have plea, you should keep dogma in your opening hand. Cash in on that draw value. Very important vs aggro blood and control blood.
>>167881603
Other than less meme decks A rank is identical to B rank. It's just slow to rank up due to no win streak bonus.
t. halfway through A2
>>167882336
>if you have plea, you should keep dogma in your opening hand
I was thinking that, agaisnt aggro blood is better to get early removal and draws.
>want to play Wolf Bolt
>every single win ends up being an OTK Roach one
Why no one told me control forest is actually viable? Lily is actually really amazing.
>>167860960
Not with that shitty cowtits leader.
Erasmus 4 life.
>>167882570
>b-but muh daria 30%
>>167881498
If they would just improve the vengeance mechanic blood would be so good. But right now it just can't compare to other class mechanics.
>can make otk dragon
>would need 3200 vials
>it would hinder me getting my odins and bahamut forcblood
>doubt otk dragon is even better than my budget face dragon
what do
>>167882636
control blood is garbage
>Aggro Witch and Dorothy Witch are 2 separate decks types
What the hell is Aggro Witch and how the fuck is it different?
68837 concede please
I wish there was a mode like unranked that gave you points for monthly missions. I just want to play stupid meme decks and get rewards instead of playing the same boring fucking "meta" deck over and over.
>>167882782
*blood in general
>>>167882850
*shadowverse in general
>>167863462
You promised me "T-this won't be like Hearthstone" and here I am, facing Daria and OTK Roach almost exclusively.
74739
Help me out on the 20 friends thing so no concedes please.
is there a cheat sheet with what roach combos do what damage, like 2 roaches do 3 + 2*n where n is the amount of played cards, roach-bounce-roach does 4 + 2*n etc
>>167882849
play meme in ranked
>>167881603
People in A are nothing to fear, you'll be fine.
>>167882925
Not when I'm so close to AA
>>167882834
thanks dragon friend
>play vs Hag
>turn 1 draw ammy
>turn 2 aria
>turn 3 prism dyke
>turn 4 cudgel evo
>turn 5 radiance angel evo
>turn 6 themis
>turn 7 themis
>turn 8 seraph
>turn 9 triple countdown reduction
every fucking time without fail
is every seraph players hand static between all games?
>>167882808
Aggro runs 3x Demonic Strikes.
>>167882918
>74739
I meant 74736.
>>167883034
>hit aa
>meme in low aa
some korean guy hit masters in few days recently
>>167883104
i play aggro witch then...
>>167882849
There should be a game mode that won't let you queue up if you have a dshift, daria, or roach in your deck.
>>167881086
yes
>>167861103
Just themisx3 and accept their concede bro :^)
>>167861486
>Complaining about not having golds
Nothing as good as an AE but you can still rake it in.
>>167861946
>Nobody takes dragonification cause you need something to survive but still be weak enough that it wouldn't have had more value staying alive to bait attacks
I miss turning morde/khawy into dragons then sieging them
>>167862101
Game's fine. Netdecking scum who don't understand card games refused to gitgud and adapt then left when they still got bullied even piloting the free win decks.
Generals fine, 2/3 of the posters left to go be cancer in the discord. Unsurprisingly, most of the shitposting went with them. It's nice to not have a new thread every roughly 90 minutes even at 2 in the morning.
>>167867987
People need their dailies and they need to tweak their deck without losing score.
>>167868883
DShift
Royal can ambush them so they usually make it
Cavalier can reduce their cost so you can make a lose-lose choice between them and lethal face
Haven can spell immune them though if you do you're probably about to die anywaay
>>167882997
wtf i love shadowverse now
>>167882997
So literally nearly the same shit, except there are less Shamans than Dariafags?
>>167883034
I did the same thing in DE.
It don't matter friend, even though I'm 2k points away from masters. I still know it's going to be 30-40 matches, so I'm not too frantic to get to masters. Being a rank away from AA is still far far away.
>>167881653
Aggro sword is OK. It's Tier 2 at best but it's still better than aggro blood because at least it has cards like Alwidas and White Paladin that can provide answers against other aggro decks.
Aggro Blood might be the best aggro deck in the game going first and drawing on curve, but otherwise it's an instant concede almost every time basically.
The reach is mediocre, the removal is lackluster and the ability to counter other aggro sucks.
>>167883278
Daria is 18% of the ladder while there's no such thing called class in hearthstone
>>167882925
There is but I don't know where it can be found.
>It's a Win 4 matches as Dragoncraft or Havencraft episode
>>167883334
>The reach is mediocre
What? It has the most reach in the game and can bypass wards better than Daria. It just runs out of gas with no reload and it can't hold a board for shit.
It's perfectly fine for climbing. It just eats it against aggro but you can outpace Daria on a good draw.
wew
>>167883494
>It has the most reach in the game
Reach is the ability to do damage once you've lost board control.
Both aggro sword and aggro shadow have much better options in that regard.
>>167883425
>dragon
That's should be easy if you're not a filthy poorfag.
>>167883425
Sunlight Satan or Seraph.
Ez.
why does tsubaki show me her butt?
>>167883531
You've almost started the game.
>>167883425
>dragon
Poor?
>>167883173
all any game needs is a lobby system like mtgo. make a table, set your own rules, people see it in their lobby browser and they can either join or fuck off
>>167883745
AA is where it starts or what?
Is this all still the tutorial?
>>167883494
Best reach is shadow. You can't beat Howl Cerb combo.
>>167883694
I have Saha Ramp built. It's a meme.
>>167883531
congrats on finishing tutorial
>>167882636
OTK dragon only gold are alter fate and salamander breath.
>>167883805
Low master is where you star the tutorial
>>167883805
AA is where the real grind begins.
>>167873187
Ton of the players went to the discord and halfway through the xpak the new's worn off. i've gotten some deckbuilding talk gonig here and there
>dragon is now the class of nobility
best timeline
>>167883661
Razor Claw, Blood Wolf, Imp Lancer, Demonic Storm, Vania + Batcards, Vania + Evolve, Ambling, Vampiric Fortress + Any Minion and a bat card (not too hard to do with most of your minions being 2-drops)
You alright?
>>167883242
Why is there always one poster who quotes 5+ people while somehow saying nothing at all
>>167883494
>What? It has the most reach in the game
aggro sword? are you serious?
it has nowhere near as much burn as daria and aggro bats, aggro shadow possibly has more midgame storm reach too
>>167883830
and i own only 2 s. breaths
>>167883425
I just did that with storm haven in 10 minutesin B1 :^)
>>167883816
>tier 1
>meme
Let me guess. You think aggro shadow is tier 1 right?
>accidentally JO dragon in ranked
help
>>167883805
You can get to A with 30% winrate due to win streaks and gain between wins and losses, it's very easy. When you hit A, a win is +100, a loss is -100.
The game starts to become difficult at AA+ yes. I'd say even AA1.
>>167884013
some people just want to talk to their friends...
>>167884101
just salamander it bro
Tfw
>>167884013
Why is there always one poster who asks stupid questions?
>>167884101
Lucky you queued into dirt. You might actually win
>>167884129
He quoted me and he's definitely not my friend.
>>167884221
Your question really made me think.
>>167884116
Well yeah took me 167 wins to get to A
>>167884101
You got this.
>>167884116
>When you hit A, a win is +100, a loss is -100
nope, if it was the case most of people would be stuck there forever
>>167883531
rip high win rate
>>167884094
According to my win rates in rank, it is.
>>167884306
We're all friends here in /svg/
>>167884410
It's not? or you're talking about the wins against better opponents? I can't remember.
IIRC a loss in D is -30, C -50, B -70, and A -100.
>>167883810
It's really damn good and the reason why Aggro Shadow is the better deck compared to Blood Aggro but it's 2 cards. Other than that the reach potential of aggro shadow is kind of mediocre and mostly tied to evolves.
Sitting at 2 health against Aggro Shadow means you might die next turn or survive for 4 more. Sitting at 2 health against Blood Aggro means the next topdeck fucks you up.
It just has a greater volume of reach cards which is the only reason it's not a meme. There are better aggro alternatives though.
>>167884101
What does "JO" stand for?
>>167883958
Vampy Fortress requires cards and a board. Again reach is about doing damage from an empty board.
The blood wolf razory claw combo is a ton of damage but it also does a ton of damage to your own face and again requires a lot of cards.
>>167884589
its a secret only for bros to know
concede please
85373
>>167884597
You do it from an empty board. Have vamp fortress out, play a bat card and a minion, 3 in the face.
Reach means immediate damage with no prior board control, it does not mean the card has no requirements. Bloodhungry Matriarch provides reach but it requires your opponent to have a board for example.
>>167884534
can I fuck you in the ass?
>>167884348
>>167884262
>>167884148
Thanks for the good vibes i actually won even after Olivia and the hag disconnected.and this is middle A3
>>167884740
thanks dragon bro
>>167884025
Literally sword can drop one unit and do 10 damage in a turn.
That is REACH.
Reach is not just about total storm/burn in a deck guys.
It's about options for single turn damage in the mid/late game.
This is where sword excels.
>>167884597
not that guy but not counting conditional burn from vampy, and not counting the burn from ambling wraiths, and not counting the burn from dods, and not counting 6 storm followers, my aggro blood deck has 24 points of direct burn
>>167884845
Finally a counter to dirt
>tfw you accidentally heal your rabbit healer, throwing the whole match
FUCK
>>167884845
>checking match results
subarashii
>>167884896
>Literally sword can drop one unit and do 10 damage in a turn
on turn fucking 9 and with evolve
it's not aggro
for aggro purposes albert is an ordinary 3 damage follower, worse than dark general on vengeance and only better than imp lancer because he is 1pp cheaper
alwida's is better than albert for aggro sword
>>167884589
"Jack Off"
You know, JO crystal?
Its a gay thing. you wouldn't get it if you're straight
>>167884580
Shadow Aggro can suffer hopeless games and still win because you have a ton of reach and unavoidable damage in the deck. That's something Blood Aggro can't do at all. Here is a webm of one of my worst games, and I still got it in the end :
https://my.mixtape.moe/pvdvtv.webmThat lyrial evo was probably a misplay, but I wasn't hoping to win the game at this point after all the board clears I suffered.
>>167884589
>>167885129
>>167884970
>>167884791
Look if that's what you want to believe I'm not going to try and convince you otherwise.
I honestly hope for Vampy's sake that the deck is as good as you think it is.
>>167885306
>because you have a ton of reach and unavoidable damage in the deck. That's something Blood Aggro can't do at all
Anon something that blood have is burnto own face
What's a good midsword deck that runs 3 otohimes?
>>167884215
Just aggro in unranked bro
>>167874343
>https://shadowverse.com/faq/
>>167878248
You forgot that even if you run spell immune stat boost in haven, theres so much bane, random dmg/destruction, and aoe dmg/transform that you still lose it. Not to mention they have dogshit curve spell immunes so basically you can only play 1/20 games where you manage to get your mainyu and can curve out with stat boosts a nd heal draws.Hydra/phantom dragon viable never ever reeeeeee
>>167880230
Tyrant/atomeme and you can do a sick 9 face T6 with Soulhungry wraith too.
>>167880834
What kind of additional bat cards you think we'll get in the next xpak as a way of helping out bats that can't seal the deal in time? They know they have to add wards, heals, and cannot damage leader cards as tech choices to reign daria back in so they gotta flesh out the others.
>>167885372
it has its disadvantages but just as its advantages were overblown the first week of rob its disadvantages are overblown nowadays
w/e you can think about it, the amount of reach it has is tremendous
>>167885372
It's not great but you can climb just fine because it's a free win against most control decks and going first will often fuck up aggro decks.
It's much better at fucking up decks that rely on wards for their protection than it is against deck that mainly rely on heals (so Sun Satan/Otk Roach/Control Sword) contrary to Shadow Aggro that actually gets pretty cucked by wards.
The problem really is that it wins harder against control decks than aggro shadow does while sucking more in an aggro mirror so if you face an aggro-heavy streak you're fucked.
>play Csword for the last few days
>start For Honor beta
>really like Nobushi but i wish he had a sword instead of spear
>>167883425
otk disco/budget storm dragon is cheap
If you have your neutralcraft core you can haven easily and you only get better the any haven cards you have
>>167885786
>Nobushi
?
>>167885786
>not playing William-sama nippon adventures
>>167885874
pure elana and storm haven are cheap too
>>167884306
Then which were you?
>tfw no cat meme sv art
>when your game is becoming as shit as hearthstone
can't wait to see how bad the next expansion is
>>167885786
>>really like Nobushi but i wish he had a sword instead of spearNobushi is a girl, anon.
>>167886098
we have dogs and rabbits!
>>167886156nobody knows for sure, maybe she has a dick
>>167886098
the cat meme is over anon.
It's dead.
>>167886263
sometimes
>>167879303
Proper control in other card games does not involve both players slowly drawing out their entire decks.
Don't get your image of control from Hearthstone streamers.
>>167885786
She has a sword that can shoot acidIn her pants
>>167886107
So, what would they have to do to actually improve the game in the next edition
>>167886454
it's actually bleed
>>167886578
delete this
>>167886492
The only problem this expansion honestly is Daria, though the moment Sword becomes dominant again everyone will be crying about Albert because 10 damage from a single card that can double as a board wipe that leaves behind a body is honestly stupid.
>>167886636
>10 damage
>with an evolve
>at turn 9
Good luck keeping an evolve until then and surviving.
>>167860891
Daily reminder Daria:
* Up to 15 0 cost follower cards in a 40 card deck
* Up to 6 0 cost draw positive draws
* Up to 12 cheap neutral draw cards allowing it to fully utilize its pp on curve, have its spellboosts in hand to keep the combo going and have an obscene amount of removal allowing you to trade it for unprecedented value and tempo
* Up to 3 0 cost removal
* Up to 3 tutor spellboost and get 1-4+ spellboosts to your whole hand while surrounded by the board of 0 cost followers resulting in getting fucked hard no matter what you do be it removal, trade or (trying) to face race
* Dhift hybrid means you're always facing lethal basically the entire game
* Removal cards out the ass so when you drop followers to force him to evolve, you just remove his repeatedly until he can't nut and you're still sitting on 2-3 if you want to. (you wont but still)
* Has up to 48 burn damage
* Numerous board clears which combo with many, many, many other cards allowing them to clear an entire board, fill their own board, and draw ~3-9 cards 3 to 4 times in a row thanks to the power of their draw engine
* Has ~12-18 cards that will get rid of the big bad cannot be targetted boogeyman without even needing to trade followers which you would think they'd be able to serve their purpose as a counter to rune/dragon but you'd be wrong. Plus it doesn't even matter anyway because rune will out-burn anyway
* Has the absolute easiest time removing Morde/Khawy/Elana/Seraph/etc. and even a resolve if Ben Brode forbid they're not dead yet
It's just too interconnected with a mechanic that's too good.
>>167886636
>Cygames want to put an end to midrange sword
>Created an even more cancerous deck in the process
this game is gonna crash and burn soon
>>167886636
As long as roach can do 20 damage on turn 9 no one will bat an eye at Albert's 10.
>>167886636
The dmg immunity was just bullshit. Like, I get they wanted to avoid the hydra/Alexander problem but it went too far.
>>167886740
Sword has a lot of tools to
>>167886742
crafting daria/levi is the thinking mans way of playing, they will stay strong or get nerfed and you get full refunds
bonus:fat witch tits to admire
>>167885574
Honestly, I think they could fix blood in one fell swoop if they just removed the vengeance requirement from Labryinth Devil's ability.
>>167886862
Is there a good guide on how to pull off these combos? I don't think I've gotten near 20 with my roach. Hell, even just a decent streamer for learning from?
>>167887164
>Next expac removes vengeance and the vengeance requiements but keeps the effects
>Blood becomes bullshit tier 1 for 3 months
>>167887164
>spell or follower requires vengeance
>>167887221
thejordude is in top50 masters, mostly playing OTK roach
>>167887198
And roach or Levi/Rune isn't OP?
Every deck except blood has OP cards anon.
>>167887221
Use your goddamn brain.
2 free fairies, one free goblin mage, roach (5 damage), bounce, roach(7 damage), roach (8 damage)
20 damage.
>>167887164
So it would just become a better Dragon Warrior.
Well done, you are shitting up the game just like whoever made Piercing Rune and Daria.
>>167887164
You never played with blood.
this craft don't need good cards cygames will print shit until the end of times.
>>167887410
If you give classes broken shit so they can fight the other broken shit, you're going to end up with an unplayable mess of a game.
>>167887289
>>Next expac removes vengeance and the vengeance requiements but keeps the effects
>>167887595
NUH UH
IT'LL BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM HEARTHSTONE
>>167887289
even the vengeance cards are shit
>>167887323
>what is Righteous/Diabolic Drain/Revelation
>>167887668
Hope you enjoy your 4 cost revelations and storm dark generals
>>167887671
wow 3 good cards for an entire class mechanic?
>>167887671
you named three
of probably over 100 cards
>>167887741
nice 2 cards are less shit now
>>167887595
>>167887430
Look if they want to Nerf Daria and Roach that will work too. Otherwise blood needs better removal options.
Labyrinth Devil would be the best turn 4 evo in the game if she didnt require vengeance.
Whereas right now Wardrobe Raider is literally the worst Turn 4 EVO unit that isn't completely unplayable garbage (pic related).
>>167887486
why are ESLs such prolific shitposters?
>>167887802
Dude, I literally just posted Labyrinth Devil.
Also, you don't understand the game if you don't see how OP some of these blood cards would be without the Vengeance requirement.
>>167887826
wardrobes not even bad, you do 1 less damage for 2 healing.
>>167887749
>"over 100 cards"
>Search "Vengeance"
>31 cards come up
:thinking:
>>167887595
Yeah let's try Hearthstone's approach of just making 1drops broken and declaring any interesting mechanic too confusing.
>>167887802
A few good cards can break an entire craft like how Levi/Piercing/Daria breaks rune completely.
If blood got all their vengeance effects at 20 it would be the most cancerous shit ever and would make everyone just quit til they fix it.
>>167888017
1/10th of the cards worth using
real better odds bruh
>>167887993
It's a solid card but still worse than Dragon Warrior, Cudgel, or Floral.
The extra point of damage actually makes a huge difference.
>>167888024
how about we try making a balanced and enjoyable game instead
>>167887981
I'm actually fine with blood having good winrates even with the worst card pool.
When blood got Yurius everyone was bitching like this guy here @167887832, Literally 2 weeks complaining about one of the 3 usable cards of blood in the entire expansion
>>167886454
have to wear acid-proof pants
Is there exist a more satisfying feeling than this
>>167888269
>@167887832
What are you doing?
>>167888429
Using humpty without leaving a body
>>167888128
>A few good cards can break an entire craft like how Levi/Piercing/Daria breaks rune completely.
>If blood got all their vengeance effects at 20 it would be the most cancerous shit ever and would make everyone just quit til they fix it.
Moriana, Labyrinth Devil, Hana Kana General, Revelation and Diabolic Drain alone would elevate the craft to Tier 1 if Vengeance was ignored.
Not to mention shit like Righteous Devil, Raging Giant, Devil of Vengeance, Demon Commander Laura, Alpha Wolfman, Demonhand Assassin, Cursebrand, Nightmare, Rain Devil, Venomous Cobra, Mormo, blood rage, Abyss Beast, Metal Gargoyle...
The list goes on and on and on.
>>167888528
but then you cant crash into that ogler
>>167886742
>* Has up to 48 burn damage
9 points from d. strike
9 from levi's crimson sorc (needs 3 evolves)
6 from piercing runes (needs an enemy follower)
4 (sometimes 6) from dod (needs an enemy follower)
3 points from magic missile
3 points from angelic strike but it's silly
where did you get 48
>>167888436
It's a recent trend on 4chan to deprive people of their (You)s, in attempts to mildly annoy or irritate them.
Is there anyway to make forestcraft viable if you cant afford rhinoroaches?
>>167888553
>legendary countdown vengeance amulet never
>>167888750
>cant afford rhinoroaches
rly
>>167888761
or 1pp vengeance spell
>>167888761
That would actually be a really fun meme and maybe potentially a good way to fix blood if implemented properly.
>>167888553
Don't forget Beast Dom
>>167888685
I think it's 3 Blade Mages who were somehow counted as burn, and which are somehow evolved when all the evolve points were used on Levi.
t: not original poster
>open pack
>that pesky bronze/silver that is always there
Whats the card name /svg/? Veight for me
>>167889043
JO crystal
>>167889043
May
>>167889043
maybe he has a crush on you~
>>167888904
Oh there are more I could list.
Rampaging Giant, Demonic Thrall, Gluttonous Gorger, Frenzied Juggernaut, Alucard.
But actually probably the most insane card of all would be Squall Lancer.
She can clear three units off the board for one EVO with the vengeance effect.
>>167889158
Yesss, i want to suck his shota balls!
>>167889043
alpha wolfman
gotten like 5 gold of him and countless regular
tons of underworld kawaii too
>>167889241
I think Demon Commander Laura would break the game the most out of all the cards you cited. Giving Storm to any follower for 3PP without the Vengeance's requirement is crazy.
>>167889241
>She can clear three units off the board for one EVO with the vengeance effect.
And a 2pp evolve clear 3 is fine?
Need a concede 32192
>>167887289
>>167887323
>>167887486
All blood needs is tow sets of a curve of weak to strong timeless witches that summon either 2 medium or 3 weak timeless witches so you can't get killed from hand while you do your soul bealer-beast dominator memes. Make a blood lego able to drain blood above max hp that decays at x rate that increases every turn you don't lose a follower and you're above max hp.
>>167888853
vials are such bullshit you only get 10 of them for sacrificing cards and i need 800 for a roach
>When daria is faster than aggro decks
I can only imagine how poorly designed the next expansion will be.
>>167889425
You might be right. Laura is insane.
Also, the value you would get from one/two drops like Cursebrand and Mormo would be nuts.
Cursebrand would literally be a 2/3 unit that you could drop on turn 1. I honestly think that would make her the best one drop in the game.
>>167887981
Moriana, dark general, ravenous beast, laura have fucked me up fierce
>>167889441
Thanks Vampy.
>>167889439
who said it was fine you fucking retard
is there a chart somewhere how many points you gain and lose in ranked depending on your and their rank
>>167888429
Yeah there is exist
GUYS
GUYS
WHAT IF
3pp
x/y
Fanfare: Vengeance is active for you during this turn regardless of your current health.
balanced?
>>167889439
>>>167889241 (You)
>>She can clear three units off the board for one EVO with the vengeance effect.
>And a 2pp evolve clear 3 is fine?
That's a very good point. Removing vengeance from some of these blood cards wouldn't even be that OP compared to shit like LeviRune.
>>167889439
What combo are you talking about? Levi + Crimson + Piercing Rune costs 4pp and two different cards.
>>167889625
Yeah even with the vengeance requirement some of these cards are still solid.
I actually run a Dark General deck and it's nearly as good as regular bat aggro. Better in some matchups.
>>167889751
No. Give that ability to soul dealer or something, or give it to a new legendary at like 5-7pp.
>>167889764
>Let's balance by not nerfing but by buffing a non cancer card to the level of 2 cancer cards!
>>167889497
A good card for Vengeance could be something that has the same effect as Temple Defender for face.
4PP
3/3
During the opponent's turn, subtract 2 from any damage dealt to your leader.
>>167889878
>soul dealer
Actually this boy already have it :^)
>>167889043
Fucking Feena-chan.
>>167889751
I dunno if that would be strong enough honestly.
honestly just delete rune and all these problem would go away
>>167889425
laura + nightmare... actually dark gen deals the same
laura + hamsa lol
laura + mastema
>>167889937
No, he PUTS you into vengeance. what they're discussing is something that grants you vengance as long as it on field.99% sure that's bait but w/e.
50 health
Dshift costs 40
Seraph need 8 cd reduction
>>167890201
>everyone just plays ramp satan
>shitpost about bricking when reckoning is last card
>>167890036
Talking about the mechanics of the vengeance effect really makes you consider how broken spellboost is as a class mechanic.
>>167890201
roach is finally balanced
Help me with my private match daily pls
50730
>>167890201
I'd imagine they will buff the current HP to 25 honestly if they want to stop so much aggro
FUCKING SAHA RAMP
HEALING IS CHEAT
>>167890430
implying aggro is the problem
>>167888685
>9 points from d. strike
>9 from levi's crimson sorc (needs 3 evolves)
>6 from piercing runes (needs an enemy follower)
>4 (sometimes 6) from dod (needs an enemy follower)
>3 points from magic missile
>3 points from angelic strike but it's silly
>3 From Lyrial Evo
>3 Angel of the word>6 blade mage's though technically not
>>167889043
>5 bloody mary
>Don't even play blood
>Standard Legendary 10/72 13.89%
>>167889507
It's 10, 50, 250, 1000. You should have 2-4k vials once you liquify extras after doing
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 1400 gold total
Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id. Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold.
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet.
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs
If you don't, you need to just play the game out and earth more low-rank shit and go 3/3 in your dailies. You can use replace once a day to try and reroll a 20 gold mission into a pack/50g mission. until you fill up to start getting ~600+ vials a pack you can make do fine with bronzes and silvers. Many of them have strong effects and what you lose in draw consistency you gain in flexibility. You will do fine once you learn how to play a clean game and learn the mechanics of your deck.
>>167890430
>implying the devs of a mobile cardgame want to make it slower
>>167890432
I don't know how they do it but they always have 2 saha's + a lucifer in their hand while you're pushing lethal.
>>167890520
This general is 24/7 bitching against aggros
>>167890430
Aggro is not the problem.
Aggro is just the best way to climb and that's it.
>>167890394
Thanks Master!
>>167890548
>>9 from levi's crimson sorc (needs 3 evolves)
>>3 From Lyrial Evo
good luck
don't forget to include olivia in your tempo rune, together with 3 lyrial
>>167890674
You're retarded.
Give me a list to make use of these trinkets, dragon friends.
I hate this fucking game
I always run out of cards meanwhile my opponent is flooding the board with 5/6 cards and shit
How the fuck is this a competitive game?
>>167894454
>>167894454
Learn to build a deck with aoe and draw
>>167891810