/twg/ - Total War General

First for Make Love not War is rigged

>>167860291
First for love/hate relationship with TW:W vs Atilla and S2

>>167860461
But I love all 3 of them

The only thing I hate is myself

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>tfw evict seleucids from anatolia

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>>167860615
>tfw evict Gauls from France

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>>167860745
>>167860615

>tfw evict historyfags from my warhammer thread

>>167860578
I was playing S2 and TW:W last night to compare and contrast since I've been balls deep in Warhams campaigns. They are really different sometimes. I kind of miss the system where units would seek each other for killing blow animations, cause the current system just seems janky at times and makes one dude take like 10 hits to go down. In S2 when a volley of matchlock fire hits tons of people die. It's amazing. But cavalry charges are ass in S2 compared to TW:W. Just so many differences and I can't decide which I prefer.

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>>167861034

>>167860745
gauls were a meme

>>167861091
I really miss the linked executions system, they could have done some really fantastic shit with the variety of units in warhams.

>>167860291
>give proper formations edition
Fuck you, I'm scattering my infantry haphazardly and then hard-grouping it for maximum frustration.

So there're going to give us Skaven if we win MWNL or it's an elaborate scheme?

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>>167860291
>formations
oh my hoplites are engaged, might as well hit my free stats button, how about some cav formations that make them invariably worse. Ooooh maybe the stand perfectly still yari wall that trivialized EVERY S2 campaign.

Rather micro other shit mang. Cav traps, rune cycling, general abilities and spells.

>>167861293
Eventually I get tired of how Warhammer battles look like wet noodle fights and play S2. Then I see an entire unit get wiped out by two volleys of arrows and I go back to Warhams. It's a hard life.

>>167861521
Not him but my biggest issue with Warhammer is ten units blobbing around the enemy general for five minutes trying to get him to rout

>>167861439
hahaha no.

More like a Drums and Banners DLC pack for free.

Sorry mate you're gonna have to wait for the New World expansion later this year before you see Skaven,Helfs,Delfs and Lizards.

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You know what lads I only played 60 hours of Shogun 2 before I got bored with it, but now that I'm playing Warhammer..

eh

I feel like I might give it another shot

Who should I play?

>>167861586
That shit's annoying too, but I accept it up to a point because that's just Warhammer and it does add a touch of 'holy shit that's fucking awesome' when your lord goes HAM. What I don't like is zooming in on a frontline battle only to see the units slapping each other and nobody hardly ever dying.

>>167861784
pick a color dude

>>167861586
motherfucker this, when stuntbrindal is just effortlessly soloing 3 full units of chaff for 20 minutes gets me real mad

>>167861521
desu this was one thing i loved about s2, uesugi warrior monk archers 4 lyf

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>no mod updates since forever
ANGERY

>>167861792
Yeah I totally don't think Legendary Lords are bad by default or anything, it's just that I had one too many battles where it ends with me having two unit blobs melting around a general and some flying ghost woman as I fast forward through the battle

>>167861952
Yeah I feel the same way despite liking Legendary Lords. Super annoying sitting there waiting for them to die. As opposed to S2 where your general is probably toast right away if they're surrounded by even like 2 yari ashigaru

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It would be cool if you had to manage sanitation in Warhammer as humans and if you get negative there's a chance of a Skaven stack spawning

I know it's not going to happen but it would be neat I think

guys

what if they release a DLC for attila if we win the make war not love thing?

>>167862137
At one point weren't they going to release India as an expansion for Rome 2?

>>167862137
Don't give me hope, I doubt that would happen

Even if we lost I would definitely buy that

I know they said some stuff about maybe releasing more historical content in form of DLC in between Warhammers, but that would be too good

nothing against Warhammer though

>>167862105
So you build sewers and then scaven disappear? Something doesn't add up here...

>>167862137
It's not for Attila, Warhammer is the candidate for the total war series

>>167862105
Sanitation was the dumbest spreadsheet factor of Attila. One can easily assume the presence of necromantic or chaotic energies would take its toll on the population, and it would play out the exact same way with less PO and attrition. Warhams was about limiting building taxes and there is already a building tax for corruption.

>>167862314
You don't build more sewers you keep them clean and free of rats

Put gates up front, hang up torches that sort of stuff

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>Slayer and Greatswordsman fighting
>Greatswordsman goes into animation, chops slayer's head off
>Slayer acts like nothing even happened
>Turns around, chops greatswordsman's head off with his axes
>Then they both ragdoll and die

Lmao, that was great. I don't think I've ever laughed so hard at Total War. Slayers are fucking hardcore.

>its another rigged make war not love competition

what bizarre loopholes and fine print will sega utilize to screw over total war this year, /twg/?

>>167860291
Is there any more strategic depth to playing VC other than: bind enemy with zombies/skeletons, ram their flank/rear with chav and drop fast units/vargs on their ranges while casting ?

>>167861784
Bow clan BEST CLAN

>>167862824
Slayers have a death animation that deals out an attack, it makes them pretty funny with blood and gore dlc.

>>167863391
Sounds pretty bread n butter to me, anon.

>>167863445
It looks hilarious. This slayer took time to walk towards the greatswordsman and everything, while missing his head. It was fantastic.

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>tfw to intelligent for Blood&Gore

It looks like everything is caked in jelly

>they sell it because they are greedy fuckers
>they sell it because it influences the game's age rating

no, it's not in the base game because it looks like fucking garbage

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>167863926
I can do without it in S2 but warhams isn't warhams without chunky jelly all over the place

>>167864124
the best thing about Shogun 2 is mowing down Japs with machine guns and watching them crawl around the battlefield

it's arousing in a way

>>167864240
t. Gook

>>167860291
Is there a limit to the amount of objects you can have on a map or is that just my shitty PC?
Trying to build a colonial-style stockade on a Badlands map and Terry keeps crashing.

>>167861936
>Europa Perdita mite b getting one

I pray

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>mfw sweet Grace gave me a free Slav DLC last MWNL
>mfw all those memes about the pleb in the DMs

>>167864472
there was a thread on reddit where the op was having a problem with objects and it had something to do with layers, although in your case I would assume that it is your pc

>tfw playing old M2 mods for the first time in a couple years

Goddam I miss passive unit replenishment.

>>167862137
I fucking wish man. another eastern faction would be amazing

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>>167865172
What's the mod and post screenshots right now

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>>167864472
>>167864967
Thanks, I think that actually may be the problem because it just won't let me save it.
>this is what I am trying to recreate. I'm wondering if I should go for a Marienburg flavor after I get the structure up.
>Also does anybody know the minimum requirements for a map to be playable?

>>167864820
I got mine from Darren when he was salty about Sega fucking us out of victory on the stream

Any nice primer on the Battlemap editor?

>>167862431
>hang torches.
>all the decomposing shit makes the sewers explode.

>>167865648
You know what exploded sewers means?

no ratnigs

>>167865319
Broken Crescent, doing a KoJ playthrough. Too lazy to get screencaps though as I just started

Fuck having to march templars back to Kerak for training tho, but the building system is still superior, fuck having limited slots.

>>167865789
it also means no sanitation.

niggers

https://www.makewarnotlove.com/

>>167865962
saw it.
This year is our year.

>>167865869
let's call it rat-meter then

>>167865962
>sign in with your first name :^D

Sega can fuck right off

>>167866046
Don't delude yourself

>>167865472
>Sega fucking us out of victory on the stream

I wasn't around for that, what happened?

>>167866046
>imblying

>>167864820
>>167865472
thankfully ca seemed to be prepared to give out a bunch of free slav codes, because I would have been pissed if I had ended up paying for that meme dlc

>>167866224
>actually signing in with your first name
Dawn of war 3 hasn't come out yet nigger.
Total warhammer was one of the highest selling games and CA's PR is on point while relic has Kyle working on patches.

>>167866251
Last year was CoH2, Attila and FUCKING Dawn of War 2
It was percentage based compared to the week before

Fucking guess what I was playing Total War before the event just like I was playing it after it

How many people were playing a game form fucking 2009 in the week before the event?
Everyone with DoW2 in their Steam library had their own little community revival "let's get together and play this old game again", they went from 1 player to 1000 and they blew past everyone

>>167865962
oh cool so i just need to make an account with my full first and last name, my email address, my steam account, my phone number (home and mobile) and my social security number and a credit card for backupt for the chance to maybe get some DLC thing that definitely should be free content when they sell the next thing either way?

heck yes sing me the f***k up!

>>167866413
>percentage based compared to the week before
If they do that again we might be fucked, again. There was an influx of players this week from the humble monthly.

>>167866318
DOW3 is giving some troubling signs.

>>167865962
Whats it

>>167866573
>he doesn't have a fake email account
>he actually uses his own name.

>>167866573
>not just giving them a fake name
also you don't have to give them your steam account

>>167866621
>some
it doesn't look good at all, which is goddamn maddening, hopefully i'm wrong by release but this pre-release gameplay is really worrying

>>167866621
eh. I like it. It's more like dawn of war 1 with warcraft 3 heroes.

>>167866621
>>167866695
Come on lads let's not pretend DoW2 was anything other than a total turd

>>167866695
there is an actual MP demo going to be happing at the PC gamer UK thing.

Basing how an RTS plays on the campaign is pretty /v/.

>>167866621
>>167866695
It wasn't that bad when I played it at an expo, although infantry were squishy as fuck compared to 2 and 1.

Who else signed up as John Doe for MWNL?

>>167866915
>not signing as Antiochus Rex

>>167866915
Do they let you change your game after you signed in?

>>167866814
the gameplay from the ork campaign has me seriously worried, care to enlighten me on how it was at the expo?

>>167866750
I liked II better than I, but maybe that was because I was getting tired of the Warcraft model of RTS and had not yet discovered Total War.

>>167867104
what exactly worried you?
And please don't ue the word MOBA.

>>167867160
use

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Should vampires conquer or vassalize the other two vampire factions in Sylvania?

>>167867030
Sorry I only started posting here when I started Warhammer. I'm working on Shogun 2, but I haven't gone before that yet.
>>167867030
Not that I can tell.

>>167867269
Burn those cunts down, there's only room in Sylvania for one Vampire line.
They also have the schemer trait, so can't trust them unless you're strong enough to not need anything from them.

>>167867160
the voice acting for one, Relic games usually have god tier voice acting
also everything looked way to cartoony and fast.

>>167867104
It was fun to beat the shit out of eldar, but it was just a mission from the space marine campaign and if you lost any of your heroes you got them back in like 2-3 min. It was extremely easy because of this, the only thing that bothered me was just the fact that Infantry seemed pretty weak.

>>167867160
Not that Anon but the look and feel seem wrong. Not to say I am 100% behind the "Moar Grimdark than U" direction that GW has taken of late but the franchise has never been this clean and shiny. Like >>167866720 said it feels too Warcrafty, too cartoony and 40k's underlying humor has always been more tongue-in-cheek.

>>167867373
dawn of war 1 was pretty fucking cartoony. People tend to forget that for some reason.

I think the VA is alright. Loved the Deffkoptas singing ride of the valkyries.

>>167867603
Kinda curious. When you say clean and shiny, do you compare it to dawn of war 1 or dawn of war 2?
Because dawn of war 2 was gritty and more detailed because it was dealing with a much more smaller scale.

I think that relic needs to tone down on the particle effects.

>>167867659
yeah Dawn of War 1 was pretty cartoony, but there's just something off about DOW3 that I can't put my finger on.
Have they changed the voice actors at all in the months since the gameplay?

>>167867842
don't know. They did mention that gabriel's VA was placeholder.
They are using the G O B L I N from warhammer.

>>167867842
>>167867834
>>167867659
>>167867603

>This is the Total War General so I will make this my last thought on the subject.

DoWII was probably the closest to the tabletop game, in both tone and gameplay. I have not seen quite enough of III to make a definite Judgement, but I know I will be buying that crap no matter what if they have an in depth army painter.
>Back to the topic at hand, we got our map editor, how long before CA drops the Army painter?

>>167867986
>did mention gabes VA was a placeholder
ok this is good, this probably means Gorgutz is as well

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G O B L I N S

>>167868282
I figure we will get the Army painter either with the next expansion or with the Bretonnia release, we need to actually go out and let these dickheads know we want it.

>>167868323
gorgutz sounds proper orky.
On the other hand don't read the youtube comments. It's a bunch of ARCH fanboys.

>orks only refer to eldar as Panzies, not as Eldar.

>Warhammer is grimdark, stop putting goofy shit like ride of the valkyries.

>muh lore.

My Vandals campaign ended abruptly. My comitati troops got completely fucking slaughtered by Contatrii and armoured horse archers supported by fucking numeri. Kill me.

>>167868551
Orks are supposed to act as the foil for the other races all walking around taking shit seriously.

>>167868692
just hammer and anvil them

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>Warhammer 12 bucks

Brace yourselves, the newfags are charging

Just wanted to make sure everybody was aware of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaW-chEUoLs&list=PLAbMhAYRuCUgRhWcNEpIT2QmX4zIZNkYb&index=35

>Kinky Featrhers

>>167868879
I just got hammered
No anvil required

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>>167858668
I personally don't mind the Sunset Invasion DLC.
I can't bring myself to start from anything but the earliest time start(which has probably ruined the game for me more than anything else, the Charlemange is so much more boring than the Vikings start).
And by the time I've reached the Mongols/Aztecs, it's already alt-history to the point that I legitimately appreciate the extra artificial difficulty.

The metal music can go fuck itself.

CK2 and EU4's music is pretty garbo to begin with compared to that which has come before.

EU3's soundtrack is one of my favorite of all time.
Nothing else fits the emotions of its time period down to such a personal level, be it the fresh discoveries made by far-flung explorers, or the horror of truly continental war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXSk-WVLS2A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxwY1Oj9qMQ

>>167865306
such as ?


I don't want a faction pack, I WANT A CAMPAIGN

>>167866413
>>167866582
That sounds retarded.

From what I understand, this year it's out of our hands entirely.

>How do I get involved?
>All you need to do is register, pick your faction and then tune in to watch your faction leader take part in various challenges in an attempt to earn points every day to unlock free content for all loyal faction followers.


>It’s that time of year again… Make War Not Love returns and, as always, we need your help to win it. Our community champion against the other studios is James, so he’ll need your unwavering, unquestioning support.

So it's all down to James.

>>167869436
if it was darren we would be fucked.

>>167861447
Rune cycling is the only thing that makes the stunties approach viability and is moronic in the extreme.

post karl franz memes

Question.
How do I make a river in the map editor?

>>167869925
there is a water plane in the buildings tab.

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I WANT MY FORMATIONS BACK ;_;

Give me my echelon formation, my wedge formation, my shield walls, an option for controlling soldier spacing in units, etc.

This game needs to become more tactical and the fucking AI needs an improvement. Please save us expansion #1 and #2.

>>167870076
>m-muh formations
You already have magic buff spells in the game.

>>167870261
The wedge formation is pretty iconic for Bretonnian Knights.

>>167870486
And it is infamous in its interaction with Total War games as doing nothing positive ever.

>>167870076
There are mods that add back some of the formations from Atilla. Dwarves get shield wall and wall of iron (square formation) for example. Humans get similar formations. Greenskins don't really get to use many, neither do most undead units. However in experience, just as other anons say, it's rather pointless. It looks cool sure, but they're mostly just used for free buffs and don't really improve the game much considering there are already so many buffs in the game.

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Just fought a really great Helms Deep battle Dwarfs vs. Empire.

They had an annoying as fuck Grey Wizard up on the wall hitting my dorfs with pit of shades whenever we pushed into the breach. Thank fuck Rune Lords have those OP runes.

They brought loads of flagellents and unbreakable units in hopes of wearing me down at the keep and wall, but nobody can out-attrition the Dwarfs.

Also Karl Franz is very vulnerable to Bolt Throwers.

Should I get the Wood Elves DLC?

>>167870616
>>167870486
I should mention that the mod does add a spear formation for cavalry in the game. Gives a charge bonus and lines the cav up in a spear shape.

>>167870261

>magic buff at the press of a button

literally even worse than you retards complaining about formations giving stat buffs

at least it makes sense from a logical point of view considering different formations are outright better in certain situations than others

>>167870660
Do you like being O.P?

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>>167870632

>>167870660
If you think the price is justified and want to play as them yes.

If any part of your decision making process involves the thought: "The mini-campaign might be alright" then do not buy it.

>>167870616
link to mod please

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>>167870831

>>167870915
Here ya go. In return I request some drop me a link for a mod that makes magic actually fun and more warhammer-y

>>167871064
pretty sure Cataph made a mod for that

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Quick question when Bretonnia comes out:

Will getting the Mousillon mods make the Bretonnia campaign more interesting? Or are the vanilla Mousillon AI armies any different from VC already?

>>167871064
Shit, forgot the link

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=834440120

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>total war warhammer made me spend 250 bucks in Empire figures

I used to play Skaven and ogres, but god damn I love baroque

I'm going to paint them as best land

stirland

>>167871064
cataph's molay's magic mod

>>167871201
thanks anon

>>167870076
Formations are so bad that some mods go so far as removing them when they're in the game, why would you want them back?

>>167871303
I want to get into oldhammer and avoid age of smegmar but shit's only going to get more expensive from here and I'm sad

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Rock the boat!

>>167871303
I'm a Longtime Bretonnia and Skaven player even into Age of Sigmar, but playing TWWH has made me want to go full dwarfs.

Can't wait for the new release this year, hopefully we get some good shit.

How do I into Runelords gor the dwarf campaign? I'm not really seeing the benefit compared to a cheaper dwarf lord.

>>167872185
>Master Rune of Wrath and Ruin
Basically Fate of Bjuna mixed with Accusation before they got nerfed. It kicks the every loving shit out of everything. I used it to kill Grimgor and route a unit of black orcs before they even got to my lines.

>modders making great maps
>people are finding ways to tie maps to settlements via the quest battle system

I dream of a TW:WH where every settlement has a unique battlemap

>>167872476
>>167872476
its happening
Glory days are back again lads.
someone post the Elysium meme.

>>167872476
>Tfw there will never be a Warhammer: Total War/Vermintide hybrid game where you and your friends get to play a L4D map with the heroes embedded in your Lord's army.

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>>167872476
You could already make new quest battles(using old maps, but custom scripts). Now you can link those quest battles to a custom map. This probably means you can fight on that custom map in the campaign if you fight on the quest battle location like with the official quest battle maps.

So you get stuff like this.

>>167872476
Tomorrow is day

>>167871672

because they are part of warfare you dunce

did you not stop to think it might be attractive to some people who play these types of games?

>>167871187

They're identical as far as I'm aware, only difference is the Bretonnian flair. ie. Zombies looking like peasants and not Empire troops. It shouldn't change your experience that much I would imagine.

However that's subject to change when CA releases the Red Duke LL as FDLC. Suddenly Mousillon goes from doing fuck all to starting with a strong LL and some likely strong starting units.

>>167871303
I'm a Talabheim lad, but Stirland is pretty based.

>>167872476
I hope the official support of that feature being announced tomorrow is good and user-friendly. Map packs for regions of the Old World and settlements are going to be great.

>>167872782
Ah yes, historical warfare.
I remember that one battle in Greece where a unit of Phalangites saw the enemy cavalry charging straight toward them, but they didn't lower their pikes because their commander forgot to tell them to do so.

>>167872915
>talabecland faggot
>friendly with stirland fans

So you admit Ottilia was a traitor and a whore?

>>167873078
Makes sense

>>167872782
>it's good to have stuff that mechanically doesn't work in the game because historically something actually effective with the same name existed

>>167872782
>warfare
>micro-managing
>those types of games
In actual warfare, there would be delegation of duties and soldiers would be far more competent and disciplined than the brainless NPC units that have to be micro'd like some twitchy Korean cunt.

>>167873149
She did nothing wrong.
Sigmarites deserve to freed from their pathetic malevolent God.
A shame only the furries were available as an instrument to stand up for the truth. But you do the best with what you're given.
Stirland provide a respectable defense is all.

>>167873473
>Sigmarites deserve to freed from their pathetic malevolent God.

Talabeclandfags being the lowliest of scum as always.

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>Make Love Not War 4
>probably rigged again
>not setting myself to be disappointed again

With that said in the alternate timeline we live in that isn't garbage and TWW wins, what is the free DLC CA releases?

Personally I think it's the Vampire LL in the FDLC line up. Not sure who or what that would be, but Mousillon is right there and the Vampires need an alternate start.

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>>167873149
>>167873473
>>167873613
Fite me you Southern Shits.

>>167873715
Bretonnia.

>>167873830
Kislevite rape baby

>>167874181
How else do you make babies in Ostland?
>Is Ostland or Kislev supposed to be Poland?

>>167874316
They are more like Bohemia maybe. Ostermark even more so. They look and behave(culturally) like imperials, but they have a lot of kislevite blood in them.

>>167873892

No if TWW wins the MLNW4 event they get another piece of DLC content along with Bretonnia.

I was out of the loop for a couple months because of my Ancient Empires frustration.

Did they add decent modding tools for TWWH or am I reading this wrong?

>>167875425
>Did they add decent modding tools for TWWH or am I reading this wrong?
Just a barebones battle map editor

And the community is already pumping out better sieges than the entire game

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Shall I do it?

1-9 yes
0 retreat and let them attack me during the turn transition

>>167874983
they won't come up with a new DLC in a few days just in case we win.It'll be some modding tools or something like that. They already confirmed no paid DLC release alongside brets.

If CA is looking to flesh out the more bare bones factions for DLC I think the best method would be to go back to the original historical inspiration for that faction for ideas.
For example Bretonnia could have Infantry Knights based on the Knights Hospitallers as they were known for naval warfare and landings and horses are generally impractical.

>>167875970
nice odds you gave yourself there. and you still got fucked

>>167875624
While the Talabheim one is good the Karak Kadrin is just a bridge. I understand its to represent the approach into the entrance of the karak but without the rest of it its a weak map. Need the siege/city maker tool.

The one that Aldorf Adventures one. A mod that takes a video game of a table top game and makes a video table top game. Hilarious.

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>>167875970

Oh fuck off

pls attack the fort

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

>Karak Kadrin custom map now works on campaign

>>167876371
So when can I expect big compilations of maps that'll get modded into the campaign?
I'm lazy and I'd rather wait to get big bundles of maps instead of cherrypicking

>>167876371
But what happens if the AI builds siege equipment?

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What kind of trees are these /twg/

>>167876842
evergreens.

>>167876560
it's a land battle that took place at the gates of Karak Kadrin

It's the bridge one

>>167876559
Probably after the beta

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Wave after wave of Hunnic invaders crashed upon the shields of the comitatenses that held the fort at the Danube. But the Legio II held fast. Held strong. Proud Romans all.

>>167876371
What are the odds that CA shuts this whole think down?

>>167877417
Paid maps are not a thing, so I guess none

I'm mad the cool maps they did are either custom or quest battles. I was sick of fighting the same 5 maps. Now we can hope for variety and cool lore map like the Talabheim Crater or the tower of l'Anguille

By which turn should I be getting new unit types in Warhammer?

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>>167877596
>I'm mad the cool maps they did are either custom or quest battle

You can play those maps on the campaign without quest battles though. Just fight at their location.

I have gotten them a lot. Some are harder to get than others though of course

>>167876560
I would assume that the modders will flag the battle as an unwalled siege, which in WH means that it will be a field battle

A mod team has worked out how to add custom maps to the campaign and CA also says they're announcing something tomorrow.

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/5swhlm/so_the_total_lorehammer_team_has_added_custom/

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>>167861439
Go back to the hole you crawled out of, rat lover. Lizardmen or bust.

Stupid question, but how the fuck do I upload a map to the workshop?

>>167877296
>Fall of the Eagles

Could someone recommend a few formations and how to use them?

>>167879097
what game

>>167878941
There is a button to upload to your launcher as to test it, after you have confirmed that it works you can upload it to the workshop.

>>167879323
Warhammer.

How I feel playing as the Garamantes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyPhsFxnc_c

>>167879551
https://youtu.be/Pis3veqKl8k?t=50s

>>167879936
(skip to 50s)

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>>167879323
>>167879551
Meme formations?
>not pictured: Some kind of heavy cav to protect flanks

>>167879774
I dunno, Garamantian roster just feels a little understrength. Axum is more boss in my opinion through the power of spicy warriors and shotels.

>>167880682
But Ethiopians are white and based.

>>167880446
It's Der Blitz m8.

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>>167880682
garamantes are missing a good melee infantry unit, and their cav is underwhelming

>>167880446
needs more nets (the lord also had the tormentor sword)

>>167880743
The sons of italian colonists maybe

Does anyone know the traditional dwarf names of all of the Orc Settlements, like Mount Squighorn? I'm looking to play a roleplay oriented Dwarf campaign where I fight using only the traditional dwarven strategies, as well as only traditional dwarf units.

>>167881370
All I know is that Black Crag is Karak Drazh in Khazalid.

>>167881370
Mount Squighorn I think is made up. But Black Crag was called Karak Drazh, its the last settlement tier on its building tree.

>>167881059
Unlikely considering the Italian Armies performance there.

>>167881983
I seriously hope you're memeing

>>167882089
Italians are honorary niggers.

>>167882237
We just have better things to do than win wars.

>>167882237
Stop being mad at us taking your women

>try starting as gelt
>outriders are like mediocre handgunners, and the mortar lacks the efficacy of early game cavalry
Damn, this guy sucks.

>>167882345
Like economic crises and total war?

>>167882781
don't forget pasta and living with their mothers past 30

>>167882781
Don't forget civil war.

>>167861439

uh..no? are you retarded?

>>167882869
>he doesn't like pasta
>he doesn't realize going out and having to pay for a new house from the start of your career, or even before it, will hamstring your economic well being for all your life

No wonder economic crises start from other countries

>>167882869
>>167882908
What about getting ruled by Germans all the time?

>>167882764
>Don't have to wait to start the siege on Marienburg.
>Talabecland literally cannot stop confederating early on, so you can just put Franz in place of gelt.
>Outriders are more mobile than handgunners, so you can run down fleeing units better.
not having reiksguard at the start is pretty bad, though.

>>167883198

No one buys a house when they're 20 you massive retard.

You rent.

>>167883198
you don't have to buy a whole house, just a small condo


t. guy posting from his parent's house

>>167883227
Then you wake up hans

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>>167883227
>>167882908
>>167882869
>>167882781
>>167882345
>>167882237
>>167881983
>What went wrong?

>>167883245
>>Don't have to wait to start the siege on Marienburg.
But you don't need to wait. Marienburg is surprisingly vulnerable to ambushes.

>>167883289
Rent is more acceptable but still bad if you have no or low income. I'd rather save the money and invest in a new source of income to use as a base instead. Of course not everyone could afford that, and many that could buy a new car or whatever instead.

The thing is there's more than one factor involved that defines how and why people move out and not every country is the same.

>>167883362
You rushed the unification bro

>>167883463
I meant for starting the siege, as in not having to build battering rams or siege towers to start the battle.

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>How do you want your spearwall, senpai?

>>167883336
>Germanics become the core of your armies
>Germanic emperors and generals all over the fucking place
>Germanic tribes conquer Italy
>Germanics conquer Italy from the other Germanics who are at this point assimilated and it is later part of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nations
>Southern Italy gets conquered by other Germanics
>Southern Italy gets inherited by the Spanish Empire at some point, whose ruler is a German inbred
>Large swathes of Northern Italy later ruled by Germans from Vienna
>Italy goes into WW2 and gets fucked so hard, Germany effectively has to occupy it
>Italy goes into the Global Financial Crisis and gets fucked so hard, the EU, under German leadership, effectively has to occupy it, manipulating its ruling system so hard that the name Republic of Italy becomes a mockery

idk buddy sure seems like they're fucking you good

>play warhams
>computer shuts down twice without any overheat after a while

oh fug.

>>167884027
Someone is hackering you

>>167884027
Do current gen TW games (Attila and WH) make you guys' PCs run hot as fuck too?
I get scared of turning the games on for longer than an hour. My PC is pretty powerful.

>>167883945
>germans from vienna
Still waiting for that anschluss?

>Italy goes into WW2 and gets fucked so hard, Germany effectively has to occupy it
Yeah no shit, after holding the royal navy at bay without half the ships not even having fuel to move for so long that the americans had to come and spam airplanes. Like it happened to the germans. And the japanese. Italians fought better against gernans than against the allies :^)

>Italy goes into the Global Financial Crisis and gets fucked so hard, the EU, under German leadership, effectively has to occupy it, manipulating its ruling system so hard that the name Republic of Italy becomes a mockery

I sure wonder why it's useful for the EU to keep italy a weak country in this day and age. They got scared even when we tried to send a few guys in albania.

>>167884813
Just admit you're a colonial.

>>167884813
>I sure wonder why it's useful for the EU to keep italy a weak country in this day and age. They got scared even when we tried to send a few guys in albania.

fuck that is some next level tinfoil hat

No one is keeping italy weak exept for your own, shitty politicians

>stupid things you would like to see in Total War
I would really like to see a DLC similiar to Sunset Invasion of CK2 but with Chinks invading europe in Attila, with their faction having unique bulidings and stuff, they would take the place of the Huns in 425 in some alt hist where they expanded their empire onto the steepes and annexed all the horsefuckers.

Or just a Total War set in China.

Never Ever

>>167885007
The man is shitposting. Do not kill his vibe.

The only hope for Italy is to revive the Roman Empire.

>>167885082
Only hope for the World

>>167885082
modern italy has nothing to do with the roman empire though

>>167885082
Italy couldn't even conquer Albania today.

>>167885227
Who wants WW3: Nuclear Boogaloo?

>>167885007
Are you implying that italy getting any influence over the balkans or the med at large is not seen as bad by other countries? Politicians are bad yes but that's the same everywhere, this is not an issue that can be solved by one man magically coming up and waving his arms, this isn't the 30's anymore

>>167885241
Which is why we need to revive the Roman Empire. The Latin people need to be reborn and rule over the dirty Italian tribals, like in the good ol' days before 476 AD.

>>167885318
When I'm old as fuck and get to watch it with a colt in my hand for a quick way out, sure thing babe.

Do you guys sometimes wish you were easily impressed and excited? I have around 280h in Warhammer and I do like it but then I see an heir vid and the guy probably has two times my hours in the game and still gets a laugh out of the dumbest, minor shit.

>>167885257
No country can conquer any other country today with the shit doctrine we use anyway.

>>167885367
the latins are dead anon

you have to let it go

>>167885451
>280h in Warhammer

Fucking plebian.

>>167885516
Then we'll bring back the Etruscans!

>>167885451
he fakes it for the youtube money

they all do

>>167885367
latins don't exist anymore

>>167885583
etruscans:late romans::romans:us

>>167885660
How much money do you get from youtube? I always wondered.

What took longer to reload? A crossbow or a musket?

do you guys ever worry that strategy games are leading to a wave of revanchism in the youth

>>167885836
Musket, Early firearms were a massive pain in the ass.

>>167885940
No, because no one plays them

>>167885660
Idk about that, he is pretty open about bad things in the games. He overall doesn't seem very fake about his enjoyment of the TW games (or his anger about the shit parts).

>>167885940
No, mostly because not enough of the "youth" play them.
>Baja Ca is rightful American Clay however.

>>167885795
it depends

if you're pewdiepie, milions.

He said in the h3h3 podcast video that a video with 27 milions views makes 50k$

>>167885940
The youth fucks each other in the ass on snapchat, they don't play these games.

>>167886097
>american
>clay

>>167886164
We would have the whole peninsula if our diplomat didn't like tequila and whores better than doing his damn job.

>>167886131
Well he's obviously on the mid-to-higher end of the scale, but most youtubers around are lucky if they can settle around tens or maybe hundreds of thousands views. It hardly seems worth it if you can't cash in quickly.

>>167886317
Its kind of a crap shoot now because there is so much content being generated even if you have a good Idea you have to pay for youtube to advertise it for you or else it gets lost in the shuffle.

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>Just put Belegar and his ghosts in front of the gate and shoot at the orks.

I couldnt do that neither with my rangers or my catapult, but the skolder guard could. Jesus that was a massacre. Only 100 of those kills are captives.

>>167886474
Skolder guard is the best unit in the game

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Holy shit, round 2 was pretty fucking nasty. So many 30+ missile damage archers.

>>167887360
>FotE

>>167885067
>>stupid things you would like to see in Total War
MORE CINEMATIC CUT SCENES

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>>167883851
>that one germanic grill with 10 arms

>>167888158
Me personally, I want epic facial expressions on my unit commanders and they need to be lip synched to what theyre saying for all the cinematic zoom ins I do in every battle.

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>ERE breaks alliance because I wont go to war with huns and am busy dealing with other threats
>finally the hunnic king decides to waltz into 2 of my stacks while the other two are still behind Sirmium
>declare war, gaining a defensive alliance with the ERE in the process, and the 2 other hunnic stacks are now stuck behind Sirium
>slaughter the king's stack
>the two hunnic stacks immediately attack Sirmium, and are heroically repulsed by the christian garrison
>3 hunnic stacks smashed and currently limping away
>think "wow things are going better than expected" when suddenly I realize the inevitable barbarian onslaughts that are coming from Greece and Germania, threatening Illyria and Italy
>rebellions imminent all over the empire


FUCKING.
BARBARIANS

>>167885067
I want like a standard historical title in a period in which religion is relevant. And an ability to convert to some not-lovecraftian set of beliefs as a retarded ahistorical hardcore roleplay mode where everyone tries to wipe you off the face of the planet.
Bonus points if you get unique voice acting lines and units.

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This is on Legendary, so I can't savescum.

Am I about to get fucking memed?

>>167889337
just prepare m8, better safe than sorry

only time you can get memed is the stonecutter 2bh

>>167880446
Please tell me this strat works in GC.

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>>167888923
I know that feel, Anon.

>>167881370
http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Khazalid

Make them yourself

>>167889710
I didn't get memed! Praise the Lord!

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Is being a dawi gunner a good life?

>>167890254
Hell yeah, man, that's soldiering. It's a good life!

>Horribly flubbing through the chaos campaign
>Finally getting a grasp on things and decide to actually go accomplish something
>Sarthorael pops out of the advisor's body and decides to fuck my shit
Tzeentch is a bully

>>167889994
The world will never grieve you.

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>playing dorfs
>Gimgore ironcunt comes along
>using force march and underground paths he runs past my army, through two of my frontline provines into the interior province of the region
>he's level 18 at turn 40 so he kills half of my defenders by himself
>he then razes the town

This is not ok. If I cannot raise armies without lords and am limited with what I can build thanks to retarded building slots then it is absolutely bullshit that the ai behaves in this way.

>>167890906

G R E E N E D
R
E
E
N
E
D

>>167890906
forced march should only be usable in allied territory, this is the same bullshit in every single TW

What would the world be like if the Anglo-Saxons managed to defend England from the Vikings and the Normans?

>>167891227
You should at least get attrition when force marching across enemy territory.

>>167891234

forest niggers instead of snow niggers and castle niggers i guess

>>167891234
Germanics ruling England instead of Germanics and Germanics I guess.

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>>167891227
You also shouldn't be able to retreat after using the underway. I chase him down and block him in hoping to catch him in a n ambush, but of course that doesn't work and he just underways out of there and ends up at the limit of my move range so that when I go to fight him he simply retreats and now it is impossible for me to catch him.

>>167891234
England would be a backwater shithole with little ties to the continent.


oh wait

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Very hard/very hard.
An actual m2 game where I had to resort to abandoning settlements.
Yet I manage to beat the cheating Ai, one strategically positioned attack at a time.
I don't want to imagine the Mongols

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>>167891979
My plan is destroy every faction by killing their faction leaders and family members so they disolve. This way the faction cannot reapear and gather strength. Next target- the bankrupt backstabbing Scots.

hey so i havent been keeping up recently, but we can edit battle maps now?

does this mean we may see someone make non-retarded siege maps eventually?

>>167891979
>>167892151
what are the novgorod units like? in all my hours in med2 i don't think i've ever seen them, not even in custom battles

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>>167892416
I rely on the horse archers.
They have a variety of units, boyar sons are good infantry but not useful in vh battles
Catapults, dismounted archers, it's all there, but you need a good castle to recruit them all

literally ded

so what announcement do you think CA will make tomorrow?

Someone figured out how to add custom siege maps for campaign, and CA said they'd be making some announcement similar to that tomorrow, but who knows what it could be

>>167894979
If we're lucky, it'll be some kind of Bretonnia trailer
Its probably just an update for the map maker though

>>167895041
I honestly don't mind the map maker though.

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>>167892151
>scottish low countries
>english scotland
>central european french empire

Looks like a good campaign.

>>167896125
I don't either but I'm an uncreative fuck who would rather wait for the creative people to start putting out quality maps. I just want some Bret info to hold me over until then
If they get more tools then I cant really complain

>>167896340
I've played bretonnia for 20 years, And total war for 15. started with medieval. I've been waiting for this game for years. I can wait a few more days for my faction to release.

But I'm thinking of trying the map editor when its fully released. I used to make terrain. and a map editor was one of the big parts of the game being modable. And more mod tools this early is always welcome.

>>167890906
S A Y M Y N A M E
A Y M Y N A M E
Y M Y N A M E
M Y N A M E
Y N A M E
N A M E
A M E
M E
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>>167897189
That reminds me.
Battling against the Empire, and this dude is LITERALLY the last unit on their field. Everyone broke and routed, this dude is surrounded by 2 20 stacks of orks.

His faith in Sigmar must have been as iron solid as his balls were. I like to think Grimgor keeps his head on a special stick somewhere to laugh about it.

>>167897462
Surrounded by a 20 stack*
I forgot it was a quest battle and the guy I sent to help Whurrzag didn't join for some reason.

>>167890906
Focus fire on him with your ranged shit. He will die pretty fast.

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>>167867269
M-mika?

>>167895041
Were did CA say there waa going to be an annoucment?

>>167879936
>pikes infront
Fuckers with pitchforks, tridents, and shit go forward instead.
How did the Orcs of LOTR conquer anything?

>>167883362
Luigi Cadorna.

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Where were you?

>>167898563
>11 survivors

>>167898632
DECISIVE
ASTURIAN
VICTORY

>>167898238
To be fair, pretty sure an orc considers anything with a stabby bit on a long stick to be a pike.

>How did the Orcs of LOTR conquer anything?
Overwhelming numbers, sewing terror into the ranks of their enemies, and relying on better servants of darkness like the Uruk-hai, Olog-hai, the Ringwraiths, and the Easterners.

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>mfw I just found out the Teutonic Order still exists and they don't kill pagans anymore

At least the cape is baller.

>>167899241
>killing your brothers in the name of religion
>baller
You make me sad

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>>167899419
Charity work is the next best thing to spilling the blood of heathens. You Wicca?

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So, can someone here explain that Make War Not Love stuff to me? I don't have Total Warhammer, should I vote for it?

>>167899241
theres a few orders that still exist but obviously none of them are going on crusade anytime soon

>>167899693
Marketing. Who cares

>>167897981

on reddit. There was a thread about a modder who managed to get that custom Karak Kadrin map to work on the campaign, and Bart_CA and another CA employee said there was going to be an announcement tomorrow pertaining to the map maker and adding stuff to campaign maybe, but like I said, we'll have to see

>>167899693

It used to be a competition between multiple games, where whomever got some the most arbitrary points got free DLC.

This year their system is changed up though, so I'm pretty sure you just have to vote and some guy they picked has to do some challenges or some shit

>>167900829
That's just for the first day

>Feb 14: you can vote to decide which games will feature in the Sega vs. Faction event on Feb 16.

>Feb 16: In Sega vs. Faction, Sega community managers battle the faction champion of the voted-for game. The faction champ fights for 50 points and Sega prize bundle 1.

>Feb 17: In Art Attack each faction creates a piece of artwork that will be shared to the Make Love Not War page. The community and Sega decides which piece wins the points and Sega prize bundle 2.

>Feb 18: Factions run live-streams of their games. The faction that attracts the most views and engagements takes points and Sega prize bundle 3.

>Feb 19: The grand final takes place at the Kensington Olympia during the PC Gamer Weekender. Here the two leading factions face off in one another's games to find out who will take the final points and Sega prize bundle

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Just got Warhammer from Humble Bundle and I got the DLC, what should I play as first to start off?

Also, any mods I should get before I start?

>>167898467
who's got the Isonzo battles picture?

>>167901451
Vanilla is actually decent, play for a while then get mods you think you will enjoy. I would also suggest starting as either vampires or empire, as I think they are the best for new players.

>>167883362
His infamy score was too high and he didn't build enough Guards.

>>167901451
Really Cataph's Magic is probably a must unless you really enjoy innovatively limp-dicked spells which apparently replace all formations and unit abilities.

>>167901786
Alright, I'll start a game as the Empire, then. Any tips I should know before I get into it? And what's the best leader to go with?

>>167901451
If it's your first total war, dwarfs are pretty easy. Otherwise go with whatever race you like the most.

AI Buildings and Recruitment is mandatory IMO. In short, it makes the AI create armies that are more balanced and more fun to fight, so no more stacks of 19 skirmisher cavalry or 19 mortars. Additionally it makes the Chaos invasion more of a challenge and fixes the hyper-aggressive Wood Elf AI that will conquer half the map if left unchecked.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=761596200

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>>167899693
>>167901398
>The community and Sega decides which piece wins the points and Sega prize bundle 2.
>The community and Sega decides
>Sega decides

There you go, summed up what this shitty thing is. It's always been rigged and it just helps drive sales of the games they're pitting against each other. Every year it's just the cheapest crap they give away for free. So you can bet your pretty little buttocks that only DLC being given away will be $0.99 skins and shit from Dawn of War 2.

>>167902408
>it makes the AI create armies that are more balanced and more fun to fight,

Wait, did the AI not need to recruit units the normal way or something?
Because I'm really, really new and was playing Greenskins, and Thorgrim is always running around with a 20 stack of elite units literally four or five turns after killing his last stack. Karak Azul was doing it too when they had ONE city left. I was wondering how they had the gold for that kind of shit, let alone the recruitment pools.

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The war begins.

>>167902640
Pro-tip: the AI in all TW games sucks and all of them cheat.

Don't go in expecting a fair fight.

>>167902441
That is the only challenge that hinges on Sega's decision though. And really, how else would you have it done? If it is community voted, then whatever game has the most participants will win, not the best artwork.

Maybe CA was out of the loop last year, but they were upset about the loss and ready to give the slavs out for free, which they ended up doing anyways.

>>167902640
For the most part, the AI recruits units the normal way, it just sucks at managing its settlements which leads to horribly imbalanced armies. It does get 2 additional slots in its recruitment pool and additional funds so it can put up a fight.

>>167902386
KARL FRANZ! Watch the Mountain Pass near Helmgart, and conquer Marienburg for easy finance.

>>167902408
Dwarfs may be easy, but they are terrible for new players, as it does little to teach about cavalry and maneuvers.

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Why is everyone cancelling their non agression pacts with me? Chaos has started appearing, the greenskins are attacking the dwarves and yet the humans are shitty with me and the dwarves even razed one of my towns.

I'm only on bloody medium difficulty ffs

>>167903663
>Game is called total war
>Gets confused when war is declared.

Complete newfag to Total War here, which game should I start with?
I keep hearing either Shogun 2 or Rome 1.

>>167903663
Are you fostering positive relations with them?
Are you attacking their friends?
Are they NAPs you made yourself, or start of the game ones?
Are you being a dick to them (trespassing, raiding, hero actions etc)?

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>>167903663
>playing VC
>boost that economy
>literally throwing souls at every nearby country
>everyone loves me
>everyone is trading with me
>which gives me more economy to build up a massive vampire army with
>mfw Karl is surprised to find a 2spooky army of a million skeletons on his doorstep