Kingdom Hearts General - /khg/

>sora will never elbow kairi off a tower to her death

Aqua has nice spats!

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Limited edition for 1.5 + 2.5 exclusive to the Square Enix Store. Anyone getting it?

>>167861328
oh boy a pin
but this isnt twewy, pins are useless

>>167862883
Except for those weirdos who collect Disney pins.

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>>167861328
Stop with the fucking pins already, besides them being completely useless in general they look extremely ugly as well.

>>167863105
The 2.8 pin is nice looking

>>167864518
aside from the color and cherry picked expression its actually fairly close

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>finally got around to playing 2.8
>played 0.2 on proud
>mfw motherfucking demon tide shows up
I haven't smiled so hard at a game in a long time.
I'm so fucking excited for 3.

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Is it pretty common for orders to be closed when pre orders are shipped to ami ami or did I miss my chance to pick this guy up?

>>167865290
0.2 is great but way too short, I know it was supposed to be short from the get go but still

i hope if they do dlc they add in more (shit that happened in the realm of darkness that hasnt been shown yet) sort of episodes

or even playing as mickey and riku going to rescue aqua

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I'm confused by the pacing between jp and worldwide

>>167865902
I'm guessing the localized version is making no money compared to Japan, so they cut down the localization team.

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dress up as the kid who got bullied

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>>167866903
anyway look at the medal data they added in NA
https://imgur.com/a/1S5B2#t9FhnN0

>>167867102
MOTHER FUCKING TRON MEDALS FINALLY

>>167868161
they added an extreme amount of medals.
It may take a few weeks before we can get them

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>ywn watch lewd stuff with your favorite KH girl

>>167868346
I Want to embrace Xion and never let go

>>167868452
Can't embrace what isn't real, Anon

>>167868605
I wonder if there is a decent Xion daki cover out there somewhere.

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>>167868452
I want to make Aqua blush by checking out her spats.

>>167864518
sora's not as pretty anymore either

but goofy is as handsome as ever and i guess that's all that really matters

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>>167867102
Is this Manga Sora, Donald, and Goofy?

>>167868161
If they ever add Tron costumes I will never have my avatar wear anything else.

>>167869413
>Manga Sora
The second option for dual-wielding post-Ventus: just strap your spare onto your back.

>>167869549
what do you mean?

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>>167870812
in at least the chain of memories manga, Sora kept the keyblade strapped to his back instead of summoning it to his hand. I figure in a case like Aqua having both her own keyblade and Master Defender, Sora could have a second keyblade just on his person even if the heart limitation prevented him from summoning two

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and on another manga note, kairi feets. they're big

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Does your favorite KH girl think guys should masturbate?

>>167871573
no Kh girl thinks that. Not even Larxene while she is preparing her S&M gear

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>>167871714
What's Aqua's opinion specifically?

>>167871714
Larxene would do it for you.

>>167871779
aqua is all for peope having a good time as long as they're not hurting anybody

or staring at her armpits

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>>167872019
Are you saying she won't let me fap while she's showing off her pits?

>>167872162
yes
I will prepare a pic later

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>>167872252
Would she mind if I get a glimpse of her pits and then excuse myself to do the obvious in a different room?

>>167872331
you need to control yourself niger

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>>167872430
I suppose.
I'd love to have a good time with her though.

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things that would make overdone worlds worth playing again

>Agrabah
I know everyone's sick of it but King of Thieves is a great story and will look amazing

>Wonderland
Tim Burton esque? Basically the Jabberwocky would probably be a cool boss but thats all I had

>Halloweentown
Original adventure to other holiday worlds?

>>167872838
>Wonderland
Go the American McGee route. No one would see that coming.

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Aqua would make a good mom!

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>>167872838
As a Jabberwocky and Christopher Lee fan I was very disappointed that The Jabz got only about two lines before getting his tongue cut off.

>>167873086
Wh-what? Well I guess objectively speaking, yeah. She is caring and devoted.

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>>167872724

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>>167873271
>ywn watch an anime featuring a bunch of hot girls and then turn to Aqua and tell her she's still better looking

>>167873154
what the fuck

>>167867102
>That cloud
No way that's going to go through without a nerf.

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>>167872162
heres what will happen if you try to fap to aqua if she were real

>>167874173
I see.
Would she let me keep the bra? It's pretty and blue!

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>Watching Back Cover

So far I've ascertained that Aced is an idiot, and was the only one who really failed what MoM told him to do

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>>167874814
nice thumbnail

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>>167874814
Go to bed, Gula

>>167875628
>no hero figure to tell them to stop being wieners

>>167865902
>Norterra
Neato. What does it do?
>>167866903
>Human Donald
Might have to buy. Which sucks because I just got back to 9 free pulls a couple days ago.
>>167875628
>they aren't even playing Monopoly and they're going to war
Fucking casuals.

>>167876828
+3 Magic Buff that hits all for 4 gauges. Does more damage the more gauges are full.

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I know someone of you has that fetish

>>167877118
Oh shit. For one turn or multiple?

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>>167874814
>>167875101
>Still watching it

Gula is a pussy who didnt have the courage or strength to fulfill his role of stopping the traitor (i know its probably not Aced but if it was he was not good enough for his role)

side note Ira is selfish and controlling but as leader should have been more open

>>167877241
If I borrowed her clothes I'm not sure if I'd wear them...

>>167877367
One Turn

>>167867102
>shota medals added
I don't care if they're shit, I need them

>>167877703
Shit game for babies. Could at least be magic Cloud EX.

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does anyone aczually care about Kairi's clothes?

i'm playing 3D HD, and I don't understand how abilities work. I just beat the game on critical and literally just noticed that when i switch out my spirits the abilities dont stay unlocked. I know I just unlocked a water boost, so i switched out that spirit and checked my abilities and water boost isnt there anymore, it just says "locked or available". how do i make them stay?

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>>167879162
Last year my college had a little game expo and there was a smoking hot Kairi cosplayer. Not a Kairifag but I can see the appeal of that outfit.

>>167879565
Support and Spirit abilities stay unlocked permanently. Stat abilities are only available if you have a DE with them in your party.

>>167879839
I embrace Xion's flatness.

>>167879873
so its not possible to have all stat boosts at the same time?

>>167880020
Not unless you can find a combination of DEs that have them all.

>>167880020
Correct. Because the game is bad and wants you to grind for nothing.

>>167880118
>>167880175
well i was going to 100% complete this but now I don't know how to do it.

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>>167879991
To each his own!

>>167879162
>edgy anti-form to parallel riku and his darkness
>valor for goofy
>wisdom for donald
>master for uh
>final form for roxas
>limit form for sora himself
>no pink kairi form

>>167879839
shouldn't kairi, namine, and xion all have the same body

or is sora just not a boob man

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>>167880791
Good question. has Nomura ever hinted as to why Namine looks different from Kairi?

>>167880791
Xion is Sora's memories of kairi from KH1 when she was flat

>>167880906
probably ventus' blonde hair

namine has two daddies

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How would she feel about guys that are into sexy girls in video games?

>>167881189
she would not give them time of day unless they also happened to be charming superhumans that could tussle with greek gods

>>167879839
Damn blue Kairi is sexy.

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>>167881289
>>167881469
What if she knows that she's in a video game too?

>>167881289
Why do you guys all assume that Aqua is some shallow girl who only digs looks and power?

>>167881524
i think she'd be too busy having an existential crisis to consider romance

>>167881606
i'm just saying they need to have value beyond being hentai connoisseurs

>>167867102
That is the weirdest possible selection of medals. If Key Art 8 is on the horizon I need to start saving twice as hard.

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>>167881703
I would take good care of her!

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uhhm why is she putting gloves on?

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I haven't had a release in a while.

>>167881703
I would love her.

>Tfw you're the only naminefag

phantom aqua is some bullshit

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>>167868679
Here you go anon

I don't normally like this joke, but you set it up too perfectly

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>>167882880
brother

Is sora more of a boobs man or an ass man

>>167882880
Roxas would have to dissagree

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would she give me a spatsjob?

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>>167868679

>>167883048
tracing his character development from suicidal waifufag in the first game to boy only idly daydreaming of dancing with waifu in the second game, i project sora will not be interested in girls in the third game

>>167883048
Hard to say. Kairi was the full package in kh, though she leaves much to be desired in kh2.

>>167883048
Dick man

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>>167874814
>Believing MoM's lies
>Being MoM's puppet
At least Bear man knew something was up

>>167883319
>kairi
>having boobs or a butt
Cmon anon

>>167883537
they were small but quality

>>167883319
t.pedo

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>>167883230
Only if you beg

Yall waifu fags are pathetic

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>>167883537
>>167883585
She was amazing for fourteen year old.

>>167884234
Namine's toes!!

>>167884234
Ive seen 14 year olds that are as thick as Kim Kardashian

>>167883770
How should I beg?

>>167884787
Yet can you say all of them are as developed as Kairi? Also remember she is japanese, not one of your third world slags.

Yo guys it's been confirmed KH3 has another Roxas prologue. It seems Nomura's going with KH2 nostalgia

>>167885286
No.

>>167885286
Sauce?

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>>167885286
>Yo guys it's been confirmed KH3 has another Roxas prologue.

>>167885286
I don't even care if you're lying, I fucking want it.
What if Nomura pulled a MGS2 and had Sora be the prologue character, but had Roxas be the protagonist for most of the game?
Except, you know, Roxas is better than Sora.

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If sora and kairi were to fuck does that mean roxas and namine would be fucking eachother too?

>>167886161
No it means Namine would be fucking Sora.

>>167886368
Don't bully Roxas.

>>167886368
Wouldn't it also be Xion fucking Kairi?

>>167886542
>Wouldn't it also be fucking Kairi?
Don't call Sora an "it", that's rude.

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>All of this desperate ass waifufagging to keep this dead general alive
Welp time to stop checking up on this general.
See you guys when there's something interesting to talk about.

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Don't them niggas got school? Did they drop out or something?

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>>167886978
Fuck you I do what I want

Anywho, what do think Aqua's role in KH3 is gonna be?

>>167887196
Having your world be eaten by demons kinda gets you away from all that.

But I'm pretty sure, it was mentioned Kairi was going to actual school in KH2

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My only wish for kh3 is for kairi to have long hair

>>167887373
I was mostly talking about sora and riku

>>167887196
Did you not play KH2? It's pretty obvious that Kairi was going to school. Riku and Sora probably did too prior to the first game, and now they're the strongest fighters in the Keyblade Fighting Academy. Plus the land of departure was some kind of school. It's also implied that the Twilight Town dorks go to school since Roxas and Co's summer vacation was ending.

>>167887692
>>167887685

>>167887545
And mine she goes short again.

>>167887692
It's not just implied, you straight up spend half the prologue doing homework

>>167880906
Her body is literally a piece of Roxas'

>>167888083
I forgot they did all that for a report and not just because Roxas and Pence are retarded.

>>167887545
I'd rather have long hair Riku back.

>>167887208
Being beautiful!

>>167886001
Same instead "May your heart be your guiding key" KH3 should have "Roxas, Donald, Goofy"

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>Character has multiple personalities of himself that physically manifest themselves in various ways, one of which actually body snatched someone who then fucked everything up

Waaaaait a minute

>>167888215
I wanted KH2 to have twilight as the main world with Roxas and the twillight trio doing shit and then the rest of the game to be Roxas vs. DiZ

>Roxas you're you
Why is Sora so fucking retarded. Even if Roxas grew a heart (he didn't) it would just be a copy of Sora's. Also if Namine didn't take the memories away he would end up being a blond Sora.

>>167888513
>Xigbar spends an entire act of KH3 calling Sora Roxas because it's fucking hilarious

>>167888865
Roxas actually had a heart the whole time. Hint:It was Ven's.

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Daily reminder that this is the only pairing that matters

>>167889076
Daily reminder that Axel/Lea is 25(ish) and Roxas is 15.

>>167889076
gay not welcome here

leave

>>167888659
>I wanted KH2 to...Roxas
Awful taste. Everything about all of the Norts and the Nortganization is awful

>>167889013
I know but in universe people think he grew one. Honestly other than the time travel the whole anything can grow a heart has to be the most retarded thing introduced. There's no longer any consequence to becoming a heartless anymore

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>>167889076

>>167889248
Eh, I think there's still some consequences but I do agree that was a terrible decision.

>>167889076
Reminder that Roxas was only "friends" with Axel and Xion for the ice cream.

>>167889152
Even hotter

>>167889329
Not really. If you produce a human nobody you're no different than how you were before except you now have the power of darkness. Oh and if you don't you just have to kill the heartless and then the nobody to become a human again. Plus you can repeat this bullshit revival rule as many times as you want

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>>167888340
Didn't need another game to tell you that

>>167889551
>If you produce a human nobody you're no different than how you were before except you now have the power of darkness. Oh and if you don't you just have to kill the heartless and then the nobody to become a human again.

Well there is no guarantee that a person's Heartless will ever be defeated and even then there's the consequence of defeated the Nobody and Heartless in the wrong order. That will pretty much fuck you over.

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>>167889182
>>167889270
You seem upset about something

>>167889701
I have to be sneaky in downloading these pics with people around.
>>167889270
Mike "Charge Dense" Pence
Mike "That Play Was Gay" Pence
Mike (not to be confused with) Pence

>>167889824
Think again Nomura already mentioned in an interview that there's no such thing as death in the KH universe. Expect more bullshit

>>167890224
1.That's not death though. I don't even know why you brought up. Defeating the Heartless and Nobody in the wrong order will still fuck over a person.
2. I know about that interview, you have to look at the context that he was talking about. None of the people that he had mentioned in the blurb right before he said that had met the lore definition of death as stated in the reports and there had been no death in KH up until this point.

>>167890409
I'm only here to for closure but it's hard to be invested in KH when everyone is pretty confirmed to be coming back

>>167890409
relevant death*

Because I know some people count Scar and a couple of other minor minor charcters.
>>167890576
Curveballs are a thing. But I understand.
>closure
I hope you know that KH3 isn't the end of KH.

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>>167890224
>Think again Nomura already mentioned in an interview that there's no such thing as death in the KH universe.
>Death has been explicitly mentioned multiple times before throughout the series

>>167861328
if i had a twitter account I'd force some shitty hashtag like #nopullfriday just to get sena to send us the box
Like #noboxnobuy or something
A box is just folded paper afterall
it should cost less than a metal pin

>Because he couldn't wait a few years Xehanort gave up taking Ventus as his vessel who's the one with the most telent and potential for fucking Terra
Bravo old man

Do you guys think the dev team think hesitates when a new Disney movie comes out to go back to the drawing board?

It's been almost two years after the E3 trailer

Aqua's pretty tall, huh?

>>167890714
It is for me. Besides KH4's development will be years away and knowing Square and Nomura they're probably going to make another mobage and I'm going say no to that

>>167889919
Cant wait till trump makes gay marriage illegal again
MAGA

>>167890756
I don't know why the context is so hard to see in that interview. Xehanort mentions that he wants to see his plans fulfilled before he dies of being old as fuck. And the Secret Reports mention that death happens when a person's soul is removed from their body.

Nomura's intent makes a lot of sense when you read the lines right before and right after the death line.

>Ansem the Wise says to Aqua "Everything is born from sleep." What does this mean?
>Nomura: In that scene the ones who are calling for "Sora" are the ones who have already disappeared from the world. But in the world of KH there is no concept of death, that for example they are just sleeping within Sora's heart. If you can just wake them up, they'll be able to return to the world, they would be "born from sleep". That there would be a possibility of this, is what Ansem the Wise is saying. Even Aqua, who isn't in the realm of light, would be born from sleep.

>In that scene the ones who are calling for "Sora" are the ones who have already disappeared from the world.
> that for example they are just sleeping within Sora's heart.
None of those people met the lore definition of death. That's what he's talking about.

>>167890957
They get to view movies ahead before release This has been said.

>>167891014
w-what did he mean by this?

>>167891014
>>167891131

>Somewhat actual discussion going on
>Decides to waifufag anyway
What is wrong with you? It's one thing if the general is on life support but damn.

>>167891131
>>167891236
okay, I'll take a break.

>>167891236
This discussion has happened so many times before it might as well not be happening.

>>167891384
So waifufagging is better? That's on a hourly repeat. It's the same stuff, same pics and everything.

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>>167890957
It's been mentioned "no Disney movie is too new". in an interview

Which is bullshit if they've decided to halt the game yet again to shoehorn Zootopia or someshit. There are PLENTY of Disney properties they could use over the past 80 goddamn years, Mary Poppins still hasn't a single reference yet but Chicken Little is firm canon.

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>>167889919
Riku looks much better with long hair REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I swear if the Disney stuff is irrelevant like it has been for a while Nomura can fuck off. Hopefully KH3 is just Sora, Donald, and Goofy but knowing our egomaniac it's going to mostly OC

>>167891484
>So waifufagging is better?
No. You do your thing, I do mine.

>>167891091
It still takes time away from development, I liked Moana but I'll live if it doesn't get in KH right away.

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How did axel go from being a villain to one of the boys?

>>167891657
Why don't they go for more obscure stuff that may end up becoming more popular? It seems like the perfect thing to do

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>>167891484

>>167891868
Play CoM, KH2, Days, one section of Ven's story in BbS, and 3D.

>>167891868
Fan popularity. Shows how Nomura is a hack. Axel was supposed to die in castle oblivion. This would have been better since there would be a reason for there to be conflict between Roxas and Sora but what do I know

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>>167892038
Figures, I only played 1 and 2

>>167892069
Axel was actually supposed to "die" 2 times earlier than he did.
In CoM and early in KH2.

As long as Mickey and the beanstalk makes it in I won't complain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqEVYbPw9lI

Why does Sora wear a full jumpsuit in KH1 with a belt?

>>167892191
It was the early 2000s

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>tfw if roxas comes back they'll probably just turn him into/fuse him with ven
I hate this series so much, sometimes.

>>167892187
So Donald's going to eat Sora?

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>>167891914
This.
They even have to movies exactly, there are shorts that would make perfect worlds or at the very least interesting cameos.

I'd even appreciate genuine Square worlds in there, I can't be the only one who'd bust a nut if they did a Bravely Default world.

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>>167892476
I hope so.

>>167892476
Only if we get a zombie Goofy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xRCYmbvfEs

>>167892803
We got julius

>>167892803
Did Max ever get caught for patricide?

How the actual fuck are you supposed to one turn everything in this level? Even with three APP and Goofy having 100% guilt and ABII + APP, I only have enough special to one turn two groups of enemies. I have one One Cost skill to use but don't want to use it. Goofy wouldn't be strong enough with it. Sebastian has 3 dots, but I already have a lot invested into a four dot iKairi. I was hoping to save the One Cost for something else. Any suggestions? It's the only Electrum I haven't gotten yet.

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>>167893123
Matterhorn yeti boss fight when?

>>167865518
It releases this month in Japan, but it would be cheaper to do order from SENA.

>>167893254
>patricide
>Not dark magic for resurrecting his father's corpse

>>167886001
edgy dual wield boy might be more melodramatically written, but he's not the better fit for protagonist for what these games are

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>>167893293
Forgot image

Just finished the new JP story.
Castle of Dreams is officially over.
Ends with a cool boss called Misses Insolent. Pretty tough actually.

>>167876828
>What does it do?
M defense down 3
Stronger based on remaining SP, like Axel HD.

>>167893709
>>167886001
Best option would be Sora/Roxas/Riku adventure party.
>Riku acts like the role model of the group
>Sora is Sora and acts like a complete goof, as per usual
>Roxas is relatively happy due to being his own person finally until he gets a good look at ventus, anyways
Too bad we can't have Sora/Donald/Goofy/Roxas/Riku all at once.
Though if KH3 had Riku/Axel/Roxas for short side-bits that'd also be fucking radical.

>>167892136
Can nomura give these guys redesgins? They look like they're stuck in 2006.

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>>167886001
It could work, but only if Nomura goes away.

I mean it worked for their mother series.

>>167894003
We know axels coming back for kh3 which is a plus in my book

>>167887196
school is for goobers

part of becoming a superhuman that slices apart buildings and has killed men is realizing that you no longer have any place in regular society. can you imagine sitting down and suffering remedial math when you could just hop into an space ship and go flying in neverland or swimming with mermaids instead? wew

>>167894010
Ikr? Especially roxas and riku, they just scream early 2000s with their baggy pants

>>167893709
He was a normal kid in KH2 which is better than special needs Sora

>>167894339
>normal kid
exactly, a normal kid is not a good fit for lynchpin of this series

>>167894334
>>167894010
If they did redesigns they'd probably be wearing tight ass skinny jeans. I prefer the look they have now

>>167894339
>tfw no roxas slice of life show

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>>167894458
It's the basis for most speculative fiction aimed at a younger audience. A character thrust in the fantastic and adjusting to it, one of the worlds Alice in Wonderland is one of the forefathers of that kind of storytelling.

Sora was a "normal kid" too in KH1 before he jumped on the short bus in KH2

>>167894010
Sora, Riku, and Kairi all have new outfits for 3. What are you talking about?

>>167894616
>>167894003
>tfw we'll never get awkward banter from riku and roxas
>roxas saying riku was a cheater in their fight and demand a rematch

>>167894003
>roxas/axel/riku
That sounds pretty great, actually.
Too bad it won't happen because Roxas is dead/Ven ;_;
>>167894798
To be fair, half the reason Sora seems so stupid post-CoM is because he's left completely in the dark in like every game.

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>>167894598
Or this shit faggots wear nowadays

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>>167894616
>No SoL show with the KH cast and Mickey and friends screwing around and getting into trouble
Who exist in this reality?

>>167894867
>awkward banter from riku and roxas
Imagine what would happen if the virtual Twilight Town came up in conversation.

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>>167894798
and if it was kh1 all over again, and not these impenetrable sequels that assume the players have played everything, you'd have a point

>>167894334
>Tfw you miss the 2000s
I'd kill to go back in time

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The ice cream cuckery in bbs is literally the only thing stopping me from buying the ps4 compilation.

>>167895496
>not buying it to unlock ps4 themes after each game/movie

>>167895549
I already have Aqua's, why would I need any more themes?

>>167895468
>Better music
>Better games
>Better movies
>People weren't SJW pussies

I feel you anon

roxas and riku just aren't fun

in my tool and life of agony phase, when i was thirteen and wearing black testicular-crushing skinny jeans was all the rage, i liked edgier characters like them and the squalls and vincent valentines and the sasukes of the world, but when i'm sitting down looking to have a good time with games that are at least 70% interactive romps through childhood nostalgia properties, i don't want the player cipher to be maudlin or emotionally complex

Critical Mode sucks in most KH games. But why is this? Here's an in-depth breakdown of this opinion.

In the Critical Mode of most games, here are the changes in a nutshell:
-The damage dealt by the player to enemies is halved.
-The damage dealt by enemies to the player is doubled.

Now, let's look at why this is a s*** way of artificially "increasing" difficulty without actually making the game any harder. Because let's face it, this isn't actually any harder than Proud Mode really.

In the games that use this Critical system, all Critical Mode does is make fights take longer. The player really isn't taking any more damage than they would be in Proud, meaning they can make the same number of mistakes before dying, but due to their own damage being halved, fights take twice as long. This leads to the player having to essentially just WAIT longer to beat a boss, because in reality they're just going through the same motions as in any other difficulty. This is where the fundamental problem lies: Waiting isn't hard. But it creates the illusion of difficulty due to it requiring a larger time investment than normal from the player, and if sometime takes a long time than obviously it must be difficult. This is especially noticeable in the games that feature the Command Deck, because since your damage in those games is essentially tied to ability cooldowns, it just means you have to wait through twice as many cooldowns as on other difficulties.

Looking back at FM2, (the only game that does Crit right IMO), Critical does the exact opposite. Instead of slowing down the gameplay, it instead speeds it up. Sora has half health, but as compensation has a 25% increase to his own damage output and can equip more abilities to kill things even faster, leading to a situation where both enemies and Sora die faster, therefore making player mistakes twice as punishing, but further rewarding good play by increasing the return on the player's investments.

In KH2, the extra abilities serve to increase your options relative to the base game (most importantly with a third Finisher Plus). The game is fairly consistent in that the player can avoid anything so long as they know what they're doing, and can do so in a variety of ways. Sora's moveset has a good deal of true variety and very few options are completely useless. Having somewhat high damage floors against enemies means not only does Lv 1 work great, but in a normal Crit run you never have to waste time grinding to overcome something. Applying caps to ATTACK-DEF instead of at the end of the formula means not messing with the relative power of attacks endgame. Conversely, the 1 damage min, on top of FM2 rounding up at the end of the formula and the 25% power boost, means rapidly hitting Limits (Duckflare, Tron's, Skellington's) don't really care about the damage floor and will deal consistently high damage regardless of level while getting a nice boost on Crit (screwing over enemies with lower health totals).

Contrast the handhelds, where moveset balance is s***, most of your attacks are useless, there's tons of crappy nukes, and Shotlocks, Surges and Mines/Balloon ruins everything (so every fight ends up really samey). Bosses don't stagger consistently at all and break out at their leisure assuming your keyblade attack didn't whiff in the first place. Dodging comes down to mashing, so there's not much to learn in actual attack patterns. Whereas Lingering Will is a very calculated back and forth and allows a variety of offensive options, MF is mash square like an idiot then Surge after he attacks. Lack of damage floors mean low level becomes a ridiculous grind just a bit into the game, while the universal 25 damage cap means multi hit attacks rule endgame with an iron fist. Instead of providing a visceral, fast paced feeling like FM2 you're just mashing square and healing a bit longer. Damage doesn't even matter with OM/SC/LB as Glave noted.

>>366938729
Listen, the reason Critical sucks in most of the KH games is because the battle system is inherently flawed in most of the games that have Critical. Like terrible damage floors, and terrible damage caps. Your ability to dodge attacks isn't 100%

By this I mean, you can totally 100% avoid getting hit throughout the entire KH2FM if you are skilled enough. But of you ever went a whole play through in BBS without getting hit, it wouldn't be because you were skilled. It would be because you were lucky.

There are bosses that will attack you in BBS mid combo, and you don't notice in the normal modes because it doesn't matter, you have health to spare. One that comes to mind is Hook, for ventus. You can't even do a 3 hit combo, the basic, without the chance of being interrupted. It's random.
This is solved by something called Revenge Value.

>He felt the need to post this shit again
Also, is the archive dead or something? I've been hovering over dead links for a month and the posts aren't found.

>>167895663
>muh SJWs
I'm willing to bet you were in diapers for better part of that decade

>>167895549
But the themes are shit. Static, no custom icons.

I'd rather they fucking charge me $2 if it meant getting the 2.8 preorder with Dearly Beloved and a nice dark purple background.

>>167896363
Not an argument.

>>167896505
Not an argument.

>>167896417
The Re:CoM and Re:Coded themes will probably be good.

>>167896542
In KH2, the extra abilities serve to increase your options relative to the base game (most importantly with a third Finisher Plus). The game is fairly consistent in that the player can avoid anything so long as they know what they're doing, and can do so in a variety of ways. Sora's moveset has a good deal of true variety and very few options are completely useless. Having somewhat high damage floors against enemies means not only does Lv 1 work great, but in a normal Crit run you never have to waste time grinding to overcome something. Applying caps to ATTACK-DEF instead of at the end of the formula means not messing with the relative power of attacks endgame. Conversely, the 1 damage min, on top of FM2 rounding up at the end of the formula and the 25% power boost, means rapidly hitting Limits (Duckflare, Tron's, Skellington's) don't really care about the damage floor and will deal consistently high damage regardless of level while getting a nice boost on Crit (screwing over enemies with lower health totals).

Contrast the handhelds, where moveset balance is s***, most of your attacks are useless, there's tons of crappy nukes, and Shotlocks, Surges and Mines/Balloon ruins everything (so every fight ends up really samey). Bosses don't stagger consistently at all and break out at their leisure assuming your keyblade attack didn't whiff in the first place. Dodging comes down to mashing, so there's not much to learn in actual attack patterns. Whereas Lingering Will is a very calculated back and forth and allows a variety of offensive options, MF is mash square like an idiot then Surge after he attacks. Lack of damage floors mean low level becomes a ridiculous grind just a bit into the game, while the universal 25 damage cap means multi hit attacks rule endgame with an iron fist. Instead of providing a visceral, fast paced feeling like FM2 you're just mashing square and healing a bit longer. Damage doesn't even matter with OM/SC/LB as Glave noted.

>>167896383
So you're saying that they're was SJWs back then?

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>>167895092
I mean Riku seemed to feel bad for Roxas during that whole ordeal but who knows how they'll act around eachother.
It can go any which way.

So, how does /khg/ feel about 0.2's gameplay?

>>167896735
>meh ground strings
>bad finishers
>bad aerials
>no combo modifiers
>Shotlocks over Limits
>large rooms make checkpoints infrequent
>botched Critical
>unreasonably low damage floors
>Guard i frames don't carry into successive Guards
>magic devolves into AoE nukes
>projectile spamming mob fights
>Devil's Wave
>crashes

It's shit. B Team does it again.

>>167896735
Really good. Hindered somewhat by the lingering BbS feel, but otherwise really solid.

Being able to move while casting magic is 10/10

>>167896864
>Shotlocks over Limits
That makes sense though.

>>167896864
>Shotlocks over Limits
But it makes sense because it's Aqua.

>>167896735
Okay ban we com go better.

>drop the mana bar, bring deck back
>instead of making *za abilities a super finish just make it so we can arrange a combo in the deck, abilities following up from another
>take the retarded way shotlocks work now away

>>167895663
I'm glad that SJWs leave Aqua alone (as far as I know)... probably because they like yaoi so much.

>>167896962
>>167897027
He asked about the gameplay, not whether they "make sense". It's a bad mechanic.

>>167896735
It's alright. I don't know how the fuck people had trouble with Demon Tide. I beat it on my first try on Proud Mode. Fuck absolutely everything about Phantom Aqua, though. That boss is complete fucking bullshit, especially during the boss rush.

>>167897128
Aqua isn't nearly trashy and provocative enough to earn their ire when literal underage panty quests like gal gun exist

>>167897182
Aqua's outfit is just right!

>>167897092
The finishers were *ja, not *za.

>>167897150
Considering that BbS didn't have them, yet had Shotlocks and Aqua's the star of 0.2 why would they have limits. And even going on the mechanic issue, you can bring up the point of shotlocks being bad without bringing in a gameplay mechanic that wouldn't make sense in the demo to make the comparison.

>>167897150
But it seems your contention isn't that it's bad, but that it isn't Limit
And it wouldn't evee be Limit because Aqua has never had Limits and 0.2 is supposed to combine BbS and KHIII

>>167897317
Oh yeah, you're right. They deserve to come back, but not as regular abilities.

>>167897329
>>167897394
Not an argument.

>>167896656
They weren't called that then, and it was less "this is offensive because of outdated sterotypes" and "you need more trannies" and more "save the children from the evil video games and pokeymen" and "Spongebob is a tool of satan and the gays" fittingly enough from the same demographic /pol/ likes to suck off.

Fun times ahead for sure.

>>167897490
Nah, don't do that memery. That was just a bad point straight up.

>>167897503
>major proponent against grand theft auto turns out to be a secret terrorist arms dealer
i miss leland yee

>>167897625
You went off on an extended tirade about your story shit because you were incapable of contesting my points about 0.2's shit mechanics. Deal with it.

>>167897739
>contesting my points about 0.2's shit mechanics
See >>167897394.
Don't be mad that you made a shit point and people called you out on it. Are you 5 or something?

Were you not expecting for something to contest the fact that it wasn't going to make sense in this game?

>shit story
You may think it's shit but Limits being anywhere near 0.2 still would not have made sense.

>>167897739
Your point was inherently flawed

>>167897964
>muh story
You're doing it again, still no argument against my points.

>>167898043
Maybe to 5 year olds who think the series where they write a new excuse for the MC to reset their powers every game has some untouchable narrative.

>>167897503
So basically the opposite of SJWs?

>>167898163
Your point was inherently flawed.

>>167898163
You seem to have difficulty articulating a problem witg Shotlock that doesn't involve Limit.

Perhaps you're just butthurt that a mechanic you like wasn't present?
Otherwise, what is bad about Shotlock?

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>>167898195
>thinking their can only be one kind
>thinking "sjw" isn't just a flavor of the week term that's going to get used up

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>Do all the Alice and Cheshire Cat missions getting the medal as a reward from each
>3 dot and 2 dot medal, 2 left over to guilt
>Grind away Green Fairy medals today just to see it doesn't need those to evolve it needs 3 Alice and Cheshire medals
Can those medals drop as rewards in the mission because it never did for me? Really hoping I didnt screw myself.

>>167898447
there aren't enough to reroll the guilt, only enough to do it once

>>167898262
It's a bunch of meaningless rider effects to hide the fact Osaka doesn't have half as sophisticated back and forth as KH2.

>KH2 gave us they left out the ability to dash quickly through the air in different directions or over a long distance

What is Glide?

>The closest you had was aerial dodge which was more like a mobile aerial recovery.

It was a double jump with i frames at the beginning that could parry s***.

>but it doesn't change the fact KH2 only had a small handful of spells which consisted of one healing series, one defensive series, and 4 elements.

Which were all completely unique and useful, on top of getting Drive variants.

>KH2 really could have used more magic especially coming off CoM which had a positively massive variety of spells.

Most of which were redundant or worthless and flowed like s***.

>>167898239
In KH2, the extra abilities serve to increase your options relative to the base game (most importantly with a third Finisher Plus). The game is fairly consistent in that the player can avoid anything so long as they know what they're doing, and can do so in a variety of ways. Sora's moveset has a good deal of true variety and very few options are completely useless. Having somewhat high damage floors against enemies means not only does Lv 1 work great, but in a normal Crit run you never have to waste time grinding to overcome something. Applying caps to ATTACK-DEF instead of at the end of the formula means not messing with the relative power of attacks endgame. Conversely, the 1 damage min, on top of FM2 rounding up at the end of the formula and the 25% power boost, means rapidly hitting Limits (Duckflare, Tron's, Skellington's) don't really care about the damage floor and will deal consistently high damage regardless of level while getting a nice boost on Crit (screwing over enemies with lower health totals).

Contrast the handhelds, where moveset balance is s***, most of your attacks are useless, there's tons of crappy nukes, and Shotlocks, Surges and Mines/Balloon ruins everything (so every fight ends up really samey). Bosses don't stagger consistently at all and break out at their leisure assuming your keyblade attack didn't whiff in the first place. Dodging comes down to mashing, so there's not much to learn in actual attack patterns. Whereas Lingering Will is a very calculated back and forth and allows a variety of offensive options, MF is mash square like an idiot then Surge after he attacks. Lack of damage floors mean low level becomes a ridiculous grind just a bit into the game, while the universal 25 damage cap means multi hit attacks rule endgame with an iron fist. Instead of providing a visceral, fast paced feeling like FM2 you're just mashing square and healing a bit longer. Damage doesn't even matter with OM/SC/LB as Glave noted.

>>167898753
is it really surprising that the handheld entires don't live up to the quality of the big budget console releases

>>167898848
That excuse worked until 0.2 came out and had the same problems.

>>167898610
>ctrl-f "shotlock"
>0 found
Again, what is bad about Shotlocks?

>>167898610
Who are you quoting?

You know that Aqua isn't supposed to do the same things as Sora, right?

>>167898929
A 'natural' evolution would be expanding on the evade and counter nature of KH2's boss fights via better attack patterns, more technical aspects to evades and a few new cases (teleport, wall run, whatever). Shotlocks were terrible. Broken garbage with less mechanical depth than Limits that were clunkier to use.

>Air Slide fills in the areas where glide lacks
That's the point. No evade in KH2 is perfect, you have to know the correct way to react to everything if you want to survive. Mashing square for invincibility between 'openings' is boring.

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>>167899046
>Shotlocks were terrible. Broken garbage with less mechanical depth than Limits that were clunkier to use
What specifically was wrong with them mechanically. You say that they have less depth than limits but don't say how.


>Air Slide fills in the areas where glide lacks
>That's the point. No evade in KH2 is perfect, you have to know the correct way to react to everything if you want to survive. Mashing square for invincibility between 'openings' is boring.

Who are you quoting? Because it isn't anyone here.

>>167899042
>It also stands that even a lot of the weaker executed ideas in the handhelds, if implemented properly

Yeah, instead of expanding on the ideas that worked in numbered main titles, lets try to fix s*** that didn't work in crappier games with a crappier team behind the wheel while Nomura's attention is split for the first numbered title in over a decade. That makes perfect sense.

>of good idea bad execution though it looks like they've been fixed

In place of a superior subsystem (Limits).

>Fundamentally these styles ended up less developed than the drive forms did but the drive forms ultimately don't mix up gameplay as much in comparison.

Wut? You sound obsessed with cosmetics and their pretty (singular) keyblade combo, not what they actually did mechanically (where Drives are far and away superior).

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That feel when have to make second medal to get a better guilt

>>167896864
>botched Critical
Critical is fine though you do as much damage as Beginner. Strictly speaking I disliked that you did more damage in crit than in beginner in KH2 it made it so that if you were good it was easier. Which shouldn't the case it should be hard regardless of how good you are.

>large rooms make checkpoints infrequent
That's a good thing though. Like sure it's a new thing for the series but larger rooms are good thing in a game.

>>Guard i frames don't carry into successive Guards
Yes they do

>projectile spamming mob fights
>He didn't magnet-thunder every mob fight that could be in kh2
Nani

Everything else is true though.

>>167899195
>you're just blinding yourself if you think KH2 is the only game with good ideas and did everything best.

That's absurd, KH1 also had good ideas. But guess what? Ideas aren't everything (as Lucas should have taught you). What sets things apart is execution, and no other game in the series is close to FM2 in that regard.

>that KH2's enemy design is the real reason its system feels so good not because it had some amazing superior system.

It had both. A large, varied, interesting, very well balanced moveset and interesting foes to engage with that moveset. The handholders and 0.2 have neither.

>to give us a whole that appears to be much stronger than KH2 was.

Based on the slow swing speeds and Disney rides?

Hide > Apply you guys.

>>167897092
Shotlocks are better though except the slight delay on input after finishing. I mean do you really wanna do the targeting in real time?

>>167899354
>Critical is fine though you do as much damage as Beginner
After the patch
>That's a good thing though
I bet you liked DMC2.
>Yes they do
After the patch
>Nani
Enemies =/= the player

>>167899461
>I mean do you really wanna do the targeting in real time?
Yes.

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>>167899352
Not terrible i suppose

>>167897739
>>167897150
>>167896864
The limit thing is like complaining that Dante and Nero don't literally become Virgil in game-play when wielding Yamato. Their not meant to.

>>167899616
>Nero
Is garbage.

>>167899352
>you used your poop guilted tier 1s to make it instead of a fresh roll
You didn't listen.

>>167899264
WHO ARE YOU QUOTING

Who do you think you're talking to?

can someobdyo please post that picture that has the three covers for 1.5, 2.5 and 2.8 seamlessly connected

>>167899489
Oh sorry I thought you mean killing mobs with spam. Yeah it's annoying especially since the camera angle makes it so you can't see it coming most of the time.

>I bet you liked DMC2.
That's not really an argument and I honestly don't remember DMC2 well enough to comment. So why are large rooms bad?


Also honestly you're a huge faggot for bringing it up unpatched. That's literally the equivalent of saying "Holy shit guys Earth Spirit is so fucking broken Dota is dead" and being like "Oh yeah but I meant before he was nerfed several patches ago"

I mean fuck are you gonna complain they got Ven's eye color wrong and Aqua's chin is a triangle before the patch.

>>167900208
>some more than others but quite near all of them are fairly useful.

ITT more Command Type garbage with a few overpowered cases and the rest being junk.

>Something that completely changes your movement style more akin to an airplane and forces you to make wide circles just to do something as simple as turn right or left

>aerial move is significantly different from its grounded counterpart
Just like physical attacks and magic. Almost as if they wanted their to be tradeoffs for going aerial. Imagine that.

>Air Slide is much faster than glide at the start

You do know Glide's starting speed varies with the momentum carried into it, yes?

>since it doesn't need to built up momentum

Which Glide also doesn't.

>Air slide doesn't make Sora feel like butter when you're just trying to move and allows much much tighter faster turns than glide does.

So it makes aerial movement more like ground instead of trading power for safety. Or to put it another way, there's less variation between the two options. Pass.

>>167898909
>criticizing what is essentially the fucking demo to KH3 this hard

Wow, you autists have too much time on your hands. 0.2 exists only to show off the new engine and play around with ideas for 3

>>167899767
Doesn't argue against Dante though.

I hope KH3 has Mission Mode

>>167900414
Osaka still doesn't understand a damn thing about actual moveset variety. 'Pretty colors' is about as far as they get.

>>167900495
-Dante being a recycled, heavily nerfed version of his DMC3 self with a smaller, terribly balanced moveset littered with overly situational, redundant or useless attacks.
-Removal or nerfing of cancels from DMC3 while adding more clunky uncancellable s*** (see: Gilgamesh).
-Styles getting nerfed. RG and GS are trash, DS is half trash, SM being head over heels the best in most situations (while still being worse than DMC3's). No QS or DG. TS was the only one that survived relatively unscathed and still lost crap.
-Dante's guns getting nerfed, hard, for no reason.
-Lucifer being overly situational garbage with the worst SM moveset in the series, bar none.
-Botching a morphin weapon (where Bayonetta succeeded *twice* while half assing it).
-NoCrazyCombos4u.
-Removal of all but one of Dante's high DPS JCable attack (which got nerfed) while making JCing harder.
-Every mob and its grandmother having unreasonably short hitstun, super armor, shields or all the above, without being DTed, in a combo oriented game.
-Bosses being huge, JCable, constantly open large hurtboxes who have 'lay down and pound on me' states so the Buster wasn't worthless.
-Enemy DT meaning nothing anymore.
-Despite fewer enemy types and bosses, still have s*** cases like basilisks, faults and Angus Wall.
-Blitz.
-Fewer enemies per encounter outside LDK mode (which is a joke).
-An absurd obsession with meters and just inputs being required to deal great damage.
-Lack of non-Super costumes in vanilla.
-Can't go through Dante's levels as Nero and vice versa.
-Dat ranking system.
-Dose deep puzzles (in a f***ing Action game).
-No DTE.
-Taunts are crap.
-Baby's first style gauge.
-Can't start a new game on higher difficulties.
-Bloody Palace has a timer.

Is this guy just a copypasta wizard? What the fuck is happening?

I just wanted to know what he thought was wrong with Shotlock

Is this what a true autism fit looks like?

>>167900769
Survey says: yes.

>>167900769
i think it's an alright flavor of autism, angry nerdy passion about video game stuff instead of how cute aqua's toes are

>>167900769
>that's what thunder always is lol.

The old Thunder wasn't a nuke centered on you, it was a 'hit anything in the area' overhead with AoE.

>thunder was absurd in KH2 as well.

It was also more specialized.

>it's a utility spell you use to set up for other stuff

>still implying these minor status effects will matter

NOPE.jpg

>the -aja spells ARE nukes

And boring ones at that.

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Home is behind the world ahead.
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadow
To the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight
Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall fade

>>167901256
>Sora...

>>167901256
aqua's back is so lewd

>>167901256
I'm actually really liking that rendering style.

sora and kairi are siblings

>>167901747
that's so hot

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>>167901783
That's perverted!

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Anyone have a hi res version of this image? I really like it.

Will probably keep posting it if no one replies this time around

>>167901747
That would be the twist of the century.

what will the twist be in kingdom hearts 3?

i think the twist will be that something happens and there will have to be 13 guardians of light and only 7 of darkness

and then so then sora and the gang have to go find 6 more guardians

and yen sid will be one and so will woody and also demyx and donald and goofy too and then it looks like they're not gonna find another one and they are about to be defeated but then noctis comes in

>>167900676
I dunno the game could still go pretty crazy.

>>167902014
CoM Sora once again asserting his superiority over his counterparts with the most dynamic pose

>>167902092
Slow down there fella

>>167902092
i need some weed bro

>>167902092
The twist is probably related to Ven.

>>167902092
sora acquires the unlimited power of the x-blade and ascends to the ruler of kingdom hearts, as foretold by the crown necklace mommy bought him at the festival when he was five

roxas and xion fuck on a hammock while riku watches, and namine goes on a quest to destroy kingdom hearts and rescue sora. kairi goes on to major in medicine

more like kingdom farts

>>167902303
sora, having acquired sublime understanding of all universal matters as his time as the ruler of all existence, realizes that namine is best girl and agrees to marry her. he leaves his physical body behind in kingdom hearts and time travels back to his mother's womb

ventus and aqua are both cucked when aqua gives birth to a baby with slicked-back black spiky hair

I could use a massage from Aqua.

>>167902369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCM5y6-ukiw

>>167902092
Roxas was the real Sora all along

>>167892069
There was never a need for conflict between him and Sora.

>>167903490
Just like there was never a need for shit games like BBS

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>>167902795
She could use a reason to be happy as everything she ever knew and fought for is burning

So MoM told Luxu to pass his keyblade down to his apprentice and for his apprentice to pass it down to his apprentice. Luxu "passed" his keyblade down to Xehanort who probably stole it. So before Xehanort dies which apprentice will he pass the keyblade to? Ventus or Vanitas?

>>167903510
same with literally every game but 1, CoM and 2 but without them we wouldnt be here shitposting so sounds like a real perplexing issue

>>167903616
Does Xehanort still have his original keyblade?

Will we see Triple Wielding from Xehanort in KH3??

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>>167903510
>BBS
>Shit
There you go again

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>>167903582
Hm, tricky concern indeed.

>>167898610
>s***

>>167903616
Assuming it doesn't just break or something, he'd probably pass it down to Vanitas since at least his pupil didn't switch masters.

>>167903638
Whoa there, CoM is shit too. Don't group it with 1 and 2.

>>167903490
Sure there was. If I was Roxas I'd want to kill my lesser former self. Amnesia really improved Sora. Gave him a better voice too