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NEWS
>Free 20th anniversary PS3/PS4 theme plus PS4 avatars: http://personacentral.com/persona-20th-anniversary-theme-p5-costume-dlc-released-free/
>New Persona games to be announced 2017: http://personacentral.com/atlus-to-announce-several-games-in-2017-includes-the-persona-series/
>P Studio's comments on 2016: http://personacentral.com/p-studio-2016-retrospective-interview/
>New Atlus studio "Studio 0" to create new RPG named Re Project Fantasy: http://personacentral.com/atlus-project-re-fantasy-concept-video-site-update/
>Persona 20th Anniversary radio CD announced: http://personacentral.com/persona-20th-anniversary-radio-cd-detailed/
>Video game discussion is not allowed in /pg/ threads anymore
>Take Your Heart and Steelbook Editions for NA up for pre-orders at Gamestop and Amazon
>P5's English Cast is shit: http://personacentral.com/persona-5-voice-cast-revealed-protagonist-trailer/
>Persona 5 Dual Audio confirmed for April 4th 2017: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/11/16/persona-5-launching-april-4-2017-will-feature-dual-audio-on-ps4-and-ps3/

INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S
GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb
>Picture of Yuki
http://i.imgur.com/46Bp50E.jpg

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona image collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Persona 5 Resources
http://pastebin.com/CZEvEgiE

MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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ANNE IS FOR RYUJI!

RYUJI IS FOR ANNE!

THEY ARE THE PERFECT COUPLE!
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You x Your Waifu
You x Your Husbando

Weekly reminder that these are the optimal pairings in P5

Never forget that Morgana is a slut!
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Post your doujin ideas
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>>167811026
Anne and Shiho go on a date and have a nice time
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>>167811026

Ryuji and Anne go on a date and have a nice time
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>>167811026
Makoto and Haru try anal, hilarity ensues
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>>167811026
Anne and me go on a date and have a nice time
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Cute Neet!

>>167810865
>master1200
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I wish I could be by her side, and hold her when she has nightmares of the dark hour
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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>>167811026
Makoto drugs Sae and experiments on her
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>Wonfes this month

Hopefully we see the Potter figma

I'm expecting either a Morgana or NEET nendo as well
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CANON
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>hey guys how are we gonna translate that feature where pressing R2 shows you the names of each type affinity
>fuck it man lets just remove it
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I've played Persona 4.
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>>167812137
good shit
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>>167812137
Watch them remove crosswords too.
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Please God, let me meet him. All I want to is to find that perfect boy I know exists. He’s sweet and shy and my age and likes all the things I do, perhaps even is on this site itself. The boy who won’t secretly think I’m a loser, the boy I can cuddle with (even if only possible online) and spent nights talking to and laughing and sharing happiness. Someone who can reciprocate the love I put in, the boy who I can make feel safe and secure unconditionally and can fill this gaping, empty void in my heart. Please, just let me find this person. I’ll change everything about me if that’s what it takes. Please, I just can’t take the loneliness anymore.
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>>167812137
HAHAHAH

Fucking atlus usa
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http://www.gamespot.com/videos/persona-5-english-gameplay-how-it-compares-to-pers/2300-6437052/?ftag=GSS-05-10aaa0b
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>>167812996
Gamespot is shit and so are you for linking them.
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>Anne is sweaty!
>Anne is buxom!
>Anne is beautiful!
>Anne is wet!
>Anne is cute!
>Anne is flexible!
>Anne is an angel!
>Anne is lewd!
>Anne is sad!
>Anne is silly!
>Anne is for kisses!
>Anne is stylish!
>Anne is for sexual!
>Anne is awesome!
>Anne is sultry!
>Anne is pure!
>Anne is amused!
>Anne is quality!
>Anne is Lovers!
>Anne is canon!
>Anne is an apricot!
>Anne is an actress!
>Anne is a model!
>Anne is Santa Claus!
>Anne is Anne, not Ann!
>Anne is best girl!
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>>167813342
>Anne is cute!
I agree
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>>167812996
What fucking font did Atlus USA choose?
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>Sherlock Holmes class question
Hmm
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>>167812137
What the hell, Atlus USA. It's not even that hard to get at the files for the affinity icons, they could've just switched the kanji out for abbreviations.

Wasn't this even one of the minor features Atlus Japan pointed out on Twitter following the release? At this rate, I wouldn't even be surprised if they cut the crosswords too, considering those are a lot harder to translate into English (since on top of using limited space and using a preset list of characters per crossword, they're all based on coffee trivia).
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>>167813783
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>>167814363
kys
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Wow this Mika bitch is a real cunt.
Also I like how they not only tied co-op abilities to the characters, but even to the co-ops themselves. Mika tells Anne to learn to use fake tears to get what she wants, and the ability you get for that rank is that Anne can now fake cry to make shadows feel bad for her.
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>>167814558
wow that is pretty rude Anon
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So what is the bust sizes of the P5 girls?
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>>167815069
anne's annes > haru > makoto > neet
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Goro > every other Persona character
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Persona > shit > Goro
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Was it autism?
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>>167813736
comic sans
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>>167815768
h-hayai
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>>167815838
He's got to be good
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/pg/ has never called me a mean name
thank you
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>>167816091
you are welcome
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>drunk salaryman telling a black dude that this place is for japanese people only and to go away
Wew
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>>167816202
Good.
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>>167816202
wtf /pg/ told me japan liked foreigners
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This is my wife (and teacher)
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>>167817274
Oh hey I had sex with her
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>>167817274
Get out mobilefaggot.
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>>167817115
Literally no one ever said that
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>mfw Tsubasa's game turned out to be better

kek
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>>167811378
She has Junpei, and Mitsuru, for that already
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Fire Emblem > Persona
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>>167817576
>mfw anon is posting in /pg/ when he has threads on /v/ to make where the replies have better writing than the game he's even posting about
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>>167817664
Maybe, but at least we're still better than Dadgoneroomba
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Persona is unironically the best series on /vg/
I am 100% serious
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STEINS;GATEO > Persona
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>>167818006
You misspelled "League of Legends".
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>>167817623
I want to spank Yukari until her panties are soiled
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>>167818505
Spanking is reserved for children as a form of punishment. Not sexy to do at all desu.
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>>167817623
>Implying by the time Persona 5 happens Yukari even remembers who Junpei is
>implying Junpei isnt a loser living in a trailer by that time
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>>167818903
That isnt true
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Hey /pg/ I have a challenge:
Go outside.
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>>167819112
To the 7/11 to buy junk food and beer, or to the gamestop to buy a copy of Persona 5?
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>>167819112
I already went outside today

in fact I spent several hours at a place that wasn't my home
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>>167819214
Both.
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>>167819112

is my waifu out there
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>>167819112
I will in like 3 hours, and return after 2 hours or so
And spend the rest of the day home, all alone
Going outside in itself isn't a challenge, most of us probably leave to do basic shopping or go to uni/college/work
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Oh no! Goro has been kidnapped by the Baker's family and want him to be part of their family.

How Goro is gonna survive in RE 7 /pg/?

Persona powers are not included, because it takes in the very real world.
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>>167819832
hey you
out there in the cold
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>>167818505
>Maki wanted to spank Aki until her bottom turned red
P1P really is the best Persona game
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Meet my girlfriend
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>>167819112
4chan is a lot more normie than you think, pepe.
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>>167820706
Thats Nanjo's wife, not your girlfriend
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>>167819903
Welcome to the family son
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>>167820883

this meme needs to end
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>>167820706
t. yukari
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>>167820971
all memes need to end
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>>167821050

agreed
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>>167820971
Nanjo is the perfect man for Mitsuru. He'll set her straight and atone together without making it seem hammy like Mitsuru.
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>>167820971
The truth isnt a 'meme'.
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>>167821312
>>167821252
Too old for her
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Mitsuru is for Yukari.
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>>167821654
Me on the left
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>>167821594
11 years is honestly not bad especially considering they both are people of very high stature.
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>>167821654
Me on the right
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>>167821746
>>167821857
Now kiss
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>>167821252

yukari set her straight in P3 before the 5 writers of Ultimax butchered it
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>>167821909
set her lesbian, you mean
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>>167821909
And in a very Nanjo parallel of manner too.
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>>167821771
Even without the high society aspect, 11 years isnt too bad.

Being super rich social elites only makes it better.
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Who the fuck is nanjo
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>>167822058
I have an aunt and uncle that are 12 years apart, and they're happily married.

>>167822097
The original best boy.
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>>167822097
#1 Mitsuru ship in all of Japan
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>>167822097
some guy with bad taste in motorcycles
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>>167817664
I'm having a blast with Fe heroes but cmon anon
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>>167822097

an old man from the old persona games before they were good
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>>167822496
>I'm having a blast with Fe heroes
said no one ever
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>>167819903
Can Goro handle the Chainsaw battle with Jack?
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>>167822496
Persona cant compete
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made for eachother
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>>167823050
MC x Mitsuru is even worse than Akihiko x Mitsuru.

Its the Naoto x Kanji or Chie x Yosuke of P3.
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>>167819903
Goro would be fucked

Haru on the other hand would just forehead smash her way out the front door like the best girl she is
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>>167823143

not even close to those, seeing as those are all completely platonic and never in a relationship
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>>167823704
Neither is MC and Mitsuru.

Social links really are the worst thing to happen to the series, even moreso than the calendar pacing.
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>>167823827
you are the worst thing to happen to this general
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>>167823937
That's not Franken Fran spammer.
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>>167823990
That really was the worst, even worse than Voldemort
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how's it going tonight /pg/
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What's with Fuuka and flowers? they're everywhere in her room, her curtains and her clothes.
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>>167824263
I'm alive, I guess.

which Persona character could be trusted to lead an army into battle to defend the shores of Nippon?
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>>167824469
Miku
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>>167824469

Adolf Hitler
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>>167824443
Fuuka likes flowers!
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>>167824443
Nice placement Fuuka

Now you can't open your goddamn drawers
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>>167824903
goddamn, fuuka's bed is enormous

I wonder why
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>>167824050
And all that was happening at the same time as that fanfic spammer. It was probably the worst time to be on /pg/.
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>>167824746
Fuuka likes death and suffering!
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>>167824903
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>>167825234
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>>167825025
the doors of the dorm are also giant. another good reason P3 needs a remake.
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>>167825341
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>>167824903
it's like that in MC's room too
whoever was in charge of desiging the rooms was retarded, in-game and at Atlus
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>>167824658
miku would just unite both nations through the power of song
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>>167824903
Funny, MC's roon also has that.
I wonder if anyone besides him and Fuuka do that.
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>>167825516
maybe that's just how japanese interior design is
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>>167825564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWIjvPuY2jo
great idea
>>167825602
yep, Junpei and Yukari have that too
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>>167825721
>Junpei and Yukari too

This is ridiculous

>>167824903
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>>167825025
It's big so that she can make a big, comfy fort out of cushions and sleep inside of it.
She calls it the Fuuka Fort.
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all persona games should make it a point to show every main characters room
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>>167826380
I want to see Nanjo's room.
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>>167826380
true
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>>167826380
did we ever see akihiko's room?
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>>167826553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z56SaNzx0-g
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>>167826553
Yes, in a FES recording
Remember "let's meat up at the beef bowl place"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z56SaNzx0-g
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when will we get translations of these chapters i want to know what phantom is thinking
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>>167826647
>>167826673
oh man I had forgotten
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>>167826746
He's thinking bullying that police detective back in Sumaru City.
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>>167826552
yosuke literally having linkin park and nickleback in his room kills me every time desu
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>>167824903
>>167825856

fuuka the 5 foot tall japanese girl at the school dorm has a bigger bed than me
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>>167826834
they probably just googled "popular western music" and put covers of whatever showed up first
it's still hilarious though
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>>167826552
>Blue Three
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>>167826673
I forgot how much I loved Liam O'Brien's gravelly voice
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>>167826892
>Teddie lives in the closet.
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>>167827013
deepest symbolism
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>>167827013
It's even better when you realize his parents know about that
They took in a foreign transfer student and made him sleep in the closet
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>>167826746

sure talks a lot
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>>167826380
Personal room that we've seen :
P3 = Everyone
P4 = Yu, Yosuke/Teddie, Chie, Naoto (partial)
P5 = Joker and Futaba
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>>167827140

thats the kind of xenophobia you just have to tolerate if you want to be a white guy and live in the greatest country on earth
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>>167827140
and let him work under the table at their store
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>>167826892
>>167826834
And a Grammy Nominees 2008 compilation, and an AKB48 poster
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>>167827291
wasn't Naoto staying at a hotel in Arena? Either way, that looks more like a study room or library than a personal room. If that counts, we've also seen Kanji's living room and Yukiko's kitchen
And I'm not sure if we should count Yu's and Joker's rooms as that personal since they're only there for a year.
It's a shame that rumor about all of PTs room being shown turned out to be false
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>>167827582
>rumor about all of PTs room being shown turned out to be false
They're saving that for P5: The Crimson Golden Festival
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>>167827582
We still have no idea how the Public Safety Officer was able to figure out that Naoto was a persona user. Fucking Ultimax ruined everything.
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>>167827886
why the fuck was Adachi wearing his suit in prison
why is he still wearing it after he goes back

I can't even remember what the guy's deal was. He was double-crossing Mitsuru or something?
I wonder how the public knowledge of PTs shenanigans will be handled in next spin-offs or P6 in general. The government is definitely aware of what is happening but to what extent? Are they keeping tabs on all Persona users? Can they somehow detect them? And what other organizations are on it? are they possibly doing their own research now and pulling Kirijo 2.0, especially with all the info Mitsuru had given them?
So many questions, never to be answered,
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>>167828236
oh, there is actually a better shot of that room
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>>167828236
>The government is definitely aware of what is happening but to what extent?
If you go by EP, they know a shitton thanks to the NWO and the Nanjo Group. Mitsuru handing them the Kirijo info was probably the dumbest thing for her to do.

PSO wanted to pin something on Mitsuru, so that's why he hired Naoto.

>Can they somehow detect them?
They honestly would have to have a Persona user in their ranks for that. P2 states a Persona user can detect another, but that was before Philemon got his shit wrecked. The newer Persona users don't have that ability.

Arena had a great set up, but Ultimax destroyes it.

I'm even wondering how the hell Shido got wind of scientists studying this shit.
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>>167828236
>I wonder how the public knowledge of PTs shenanigans will be handled in next spin-offs or P6 in general.
with the same kind of vague references that never materialize into anything, it's just background fluff
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>>167826552
How does she expect to get any work done with a desk like that?
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>>167830235
anon, that's Chie's room. That desk and all those books are just for show.
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>>167826552
>american flag pillow on the floor

lel
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goodbye pg
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at least /pg/ is having as much trouble staying above page 10 as some generals that have existed for like 3 days
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Is this true? Anyone who played the game can comfirm?
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>>167837124
can't speak for P5 but that did happen with P3P and I think vanilla P4 so it's possible.
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>>167815069

what are the dick sizes for the p5 boys
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I want to fall asleep next to an autistic fox!
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>Goro switches his persona to Loki
>Costume changes

>Joker can switch his persona to anything
>Costume doesn't change

Why though?
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>>167838721
Because who cares about the personality of the self-insert.
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>>167838721
It's probably a special ability belonging to Loki. He was a shape shifter after all.
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>>167839584
on this masquerade
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>>167839653
hiding both face and mind
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How many of you are actually in this thread, watching the page number drop to 10 and kinda wanting it to change to "archived"?
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>>167824443
It actually goes a bit more deeper.

>her name has the Kanji for flower in it
>Juno's symbol in her orb is called the "lily flower"

But ironically, Fuuka doesn't like flowers as a gift, maybe because of how many she has.
She does love flower vases though.
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>>167843713
God, I fucking love Juno's design
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>>167843806
Me too, it has a lot of cool symbolism
The peacock wings and multiple eyes?
>"Juno's own warlike aspect among the Romans is apparent in her attire. She often appeared sitting pictured with a peacock"

Her orb?

>"The epithet Lucina is particularly revealing since it reflects two interrelated aspects of the function of Juno: cyclical renewal of time in the waning and waxing of the moon and protection of delivery and birth (as she who brings to light the newborn as vigour, vital force)."

She looks very cool and does a great job showing Fuuka's inner beauty.
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>>167844201
One last thing.

I looked up what Fuuka's exact hair tone was called, and it's name is [spoiler[Peacock blue[/spoiler]
Not sure if this was intentional, but curious nonetheless.
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>>167844647
Damnit, I fucked that spoiler up.
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If Aigis is a robot, why does she have such ENORMOUS titties? I fantasize over whether she could function as a sex bot.
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Who is the strongest navigator: Fuuka or Futaba? In terms of sensing stuff I mean.
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>>167847242
Fuuka
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>>167847242
Teddie
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>>167847242
Definetely Fuuka.
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>>167847242
Futaba is a garbage navigator m8
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>>167846369
They help her float in water
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I WANT TO FIST AIGIS
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>>167837343
Yusuke>Joker>Ryuji>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goro
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>>167852043
take pictures
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>>167852043
rip in pieces, anon's hand
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>>167852043

anon do not forget the golden rule

do not fist android girls
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anyone have that bizarre aigis comic where she kills koromaru
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dead
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>>167854446
>where she kills koromaru
why
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>>167855708
because... she wants to kidnap and marry MC, and koro tells her not to? I think?
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>>167854446
>>167855840
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i think that's the one where she says she isn't capable of sex but she's capable of performing felatio and after God tells her to kill koromaru (koromaru might have been God too i dont remember) she lives in a cave with MC as her love slave
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>>167856591
yeah that's the one
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>>167856591
>>167854446
https://exhentai.org/g/681363/2f2f27f3fc/
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>>167856963
nice, thank you
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>>167846369
>ENORMOUS titties
Because you won't stop looking at ugly fanart done by a untalented robotfucker.
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somebody educate me about idols
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>>167858175
what exactly do you want to know
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>>167858558
the basics

what the fuck is an idol, to start with
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>>167858667
Well, they are cute, young girls that do a lot of cute things while wearing cute outfits to entertain lonely otakus in order to get as much money from them as possible.
They are singers, dancers, actresses, models. All in one. They either perform in units or solo. They can't be sluts or have boyfriends however, they must remain pure.
2D idols are also far superior to 3D idols.
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>>167859237
Okay.

>young girls that do a lot of cute things while wearing cute outfits

Japan considers this acceptable? When did idol culture originate? How do they differ from J-pop groups? Those seem like they sing and dance and model too.
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>>167859513
Yes, Japan finds it acceptable for cute girls to do cute things in cute clothes
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>>167859513
>Japan considers this acceptable?
Why wouldn't they?
>When did idol culture originate?
idk, ancient times? It's definitely a very old thing
>How do they differ from J-pop groups?
Same thing. J-pop groups are just idol units.
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>>167859885
But it's not really that, is it? It's "cute" girls doing "cute" things in "cute" clothes.
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>>167860006
Well, 3D idols are "cute" while 2D idols are actually cute
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>>167861302
Wheres that from
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>>167859513
>Japan considers this acceptable?
Spears, Beiber, Celine Dion, Miley, Timberlake, ect.
Japan isnt the only place that puts teens in the entertainment business
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>>167862195
pixiv
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OKAY OKAY

I AM JAPANESE

HA HA HA
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>>167862958
We've gone full K-ON
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slut
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Are you guys even still looking forward to Persona 5?
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>>167864213
Yes, It couldnt possibly be worse than P4.
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>>167864213
No, I already played it
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help us groo
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who /spamming hardin's twitter on the 14th to show how pissed we are about the delay/ here?
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>>167864313

this
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>>167866654
I don't have a twitter account you big fat normie
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>>167866654
Get a life
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Will the shittiness and financial failure of the P3 movies convince ATLUS to make P5 a television series?
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>>167866817
>>167867145
we are anonymous, we are legion, we do not forget, we do not forgive. join me bros
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Hama
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>>167867275
If anything it would just convince them to make more P4 anime.
That first season looked awful, and it still sold gangbusters.
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>>167862958
MY NAME IS ANNE WINDSOR
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>>167868001
I NEED to touch Anne's breasts
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>>167867804
all they had to do was make P3 a television series.

P4 anime was probably the best video game to anime adaptation ever in faithfulness. Somewhere along the lines they decided to make P3, which was arguably longer than P4 in its original incarnation, into four movies without the Answer even.

Okay I know how much people hate the Answer but instead of not adapting it and handwaving it could they at have least tried to fix its issues.

Fuck the P3 movies.
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>>167868267
the movies are literally fine
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...KURUSU-CHAN!
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tuturu~
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>>167868267
P4 basically followed the pace of a slice of life x shounen anime anyway.
They hit almost every point on the checklist, and the ones that they didnt hit they added in Golden.
Of course it made perfect sense as a TV show.

I dont think P3 would have done any better as a show though.
And yeah, Im still bitter about the lack of an Answer movie. It would have had the most potential.

>>167868427
The Yukari TnA is literally the only thing fine with them.
that first movie must have like 3 or 4 close ups of her succulent thighs
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>>167827152
>People still think Joker is supposed to be an introvert
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>>167868571
away
away
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>>167868645
goddamn when did yukari get so stacked
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>>167868645
It doesn't matter if it would have worked or not, they decided P3 should be an anime, then they should've just thought TV and not movie.

Do people remember they somehow at some point found the time to make a 26 episode abomination that I don't think anyone has watched completely.
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>>167868881
Daily reminder Persona will never have a good tsundere
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>>167869373
no will steins gate
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>>167869061
Honestly Atlus should just stay away from anime in general seeing as all of them have been complete shit up to this point.
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>>167869408
Pls use a time leap device, and refrain from posting this in the future
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>>167869528
shut up dead girl
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>>167869373
Isn't she supposed to be a virgin?
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>>167869603
nah she got fucked over really hard by her dad
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>>167869481
P4 anime was good, as was the ancient was Megami Tensei OVAs buried in the depths of hell.

They also make an absolute shitton of manga adaptations or content off their properties that are pretty gud so I don't know why they should steer off anime.
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>>167869603
yes, what's your point
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>>167869568
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>>167868645
>And yeah, Im still bitter about the lack of an Answer movie. It would have had the most potential.
You need Yukari caring about MC for that
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>>167869784
mayuri's ending is the canon end
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>>167869706
The P4 anime was trash, but that's mostly because it's source material was trash too. And the megaten OVA was alright, but that was pretty long ago, and nuatlus is far from that, either way the best thing about it was its Engrish memes. Manga isn't the same as anime so I never said anything about them not doing that.
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>>167869706
>P4 anime was good
This fuckin guy...
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>>167869967
>an animation error makes the entire anime shit
Guess 99% of anime are shit then
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>>167869949
>The P4 anime was trash
It wasn't that bad Yu carried hard the show
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>>167870036
Well, yeah
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>>167870036
Not just that, everyone looked like they belonged in The Proud Family. Otherwise it was just a below average run of the mill shounen anime, with """funny""" anime moments.
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>>167870215
>Otherwise it was just a below average run of the mill shounen anime, with """funny""" anime moments.
Which is the perfect adaptation for P4.
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>>167870151
But if I wanted all the moments in P4A that involved Yu, I could just watch an all around better anime like Desu Ga Sakamoto that does the deadpan Garu Stu thing way better.
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>>167870293
Well yeah sure it's a super faithful anime, doesn't make it any less trash though
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How will the English fanbase respond to the Igor twist? Should Atlus USA have stated outright they changed his voice to match the new one who changed because the old one died? They were always doomed since the twist revolves around Japan's voices - but I feel like a statement like that would've helped a little, but instead they just revealed it in a random trailer and a bunch of people got spoiled in the comments.
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>>167868645
>And yeah, Im still bitter about the lack of an Answer movie. It would have had the most potential.

No it wouldn't. The Answer is 95 percent dungeon crawling with the animes really don't like to bother with for some reason.
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>>167869918
What is actually canon though is Mayuri shittalking the rest of the waifus, Kurisu in particular.
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>>167870531
Sounds like your beef is with P4 itself then.
It's a perfectly good adaptation.
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>>167870621
when does she do that
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>>167870536
Most people familiar with Persona will probably just assume it's to match the Japanese one and not think too much about it, and new people coming in won't know either way so I doubt it's that huge a deal
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>>167870036
I bet you watched it sourced from the BD's
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>>167862202

The difference is most teen US performers are for the enjoyment of other teens and that's what most of their fanbase is.

While Japanese idols are mostly marketed towards shut in dateless socially impossible 20 and 30 year old otaku,
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The Answer wouldn't work as a movie since a big part of it is Yukari not accepting MC death, too bad Yukari doesn't give a shit about the MC in the movies
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>>167869967
All things aside, this scene was ridiculous, I get that Inaba is a boring place, and the Investigation Team is composed of uninteresting people who don't really have anything to do, but nobody goes to a friends house just for watermelon let alone 6
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>>167871040
delete this

movie yukari loves MC
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>>167871040
>too bad Yukari doesn't give a shit about the MC in the movies
Dont remind me
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>>167870687
In Zero, when she finally gives up and agrees to go with Suzuha in the time machine
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>>167867275
Are non original anime movies ever successful anymore?

The berserk movies flopped, Persona 3 flopped, the last DBZ movie underperformed which is why they decided to make a new tv anime instead of more movies
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>>167871146
I definitely don't remember her shit talking Kurisu

I mean I think she was angry at her because she went and died and Okabe was sad because of her, but that's not really the same thing
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>>167869784

but then any fortress that soldier takes drops in value to him
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>>167871213

Evangelion is.

3.0 sold ridiculously well even though almost everyone that watched it hated it.
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>>167871318
not really because now it's his property, and since he knows how to penetrate the defenses he should be able to cover up with weaknesses
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>>167871213
How are the Monogatari movies doing?
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>>167871213
> Are non original anime movies ever successful anymore

no. Also Berserk isn't the best example there because Berserk will never and has never ever worked as anime in any format.

It's literally something that should be confined to manga.
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>>167871436

he does not have the resources to repair the walls he breached and everyone knows about them
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>>167871289
During her Orihime speech she said Kurisu could never love him nearly as much as she does. She was nasty about it.
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>>167871680
That's assuming he breached a wall, how do you know he didn't sneak in? It's like the saying a key that opens many locks is a good key but a lock that gets opened by many keys is a bad lock.
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>>167871213
All of those are shit movies though. And P3 didn't flop, it did well for a game barely anyone cares about.
Popular animes get movies every year and Japs cream themselves over them.
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>>167871102
Do you hate Yukari?
Because I can't think of a single reason why movie Yukari would consider Makoto as much as a friend. Let alone love that teamkilling shit.
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>>167838721
his costume doesn't change when he switches to loki, we see him using loki in both outfits

the prince-y outfit's fake according to morgana, he just uses loki to disguise his real outfit
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>>167871804

if he could sneak into to it he knows someone else could as well
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I love sensei!
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>>167873925
sensei a shit
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>>167873925
>tfw the west is going to be upset about flirting and dating the sensei, even though P3 did it first.
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>>167872095

Which effectively makes Robin Hood pointless. Goro didn't even need the wild card and him who wanted power and to be special deciding he had an ability he was only going to take minimal advantage off came off as kind of stupid.

It seemed like it was just there so Atlus could go "Well at least we surprised you with something about him"
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>>167874803
what? robin hood is way less suspicious and fits a different (+less negative) aspect of goro's character than loki, there's enough reason for him to have him.

him having the wild card ability and underutilizing it makes sense, he doesn't trust people enough to make full use of it and it's a plot point that he only relied on lies and his resentment to get where he is. contrasts joker too.
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tfw this place will be filled with WASSUP PERSONA soon
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>>167876774
60 days is soon?
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>>167873925
Sensei is slacking off!
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>>167826746
Is there already a translation of the manga?
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>>167826746
thinken of groo
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>>167877691
muh slink
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>>167826746
>"in math class, kawakami-sensei's got a fat ass, shit's gonna be on my dick in less then 3 months, guaranteed"
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What things are the NEET good for?
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>>167879446
headpatting
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>>167879446
cuddling and hand holding
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so if Robin Hood really is a part of Goro what does he represent? What do any of the characters personas represent, like I don't get why Yusuke has Goemon or why Anne has Carmen
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>>167880329
carmen's carmens represent anne's annes
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>>167880572
What does Milady's gun represent?
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Why hasn't Rise been feeding herself? Is Idol life that though?!
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>>167880329
Yusuke's whole thing seems to be a traditionally Japanese/samurai aesthetic but I don't get how that's relevant to his actual personality that much either, beyond it being Madarame's influence.
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Ann is my favorite Persona 5 girl!
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>>167881215
His art style doesn't fit that either
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>>167880329
robin hood represents goro's lies (mentioned ingame), his desire to have people acknowledge him, and his view of a hero (mentioned in soejima's design comments)

don't remember if the design comments mentioned anything for the others atm
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>>167882932
We had their descriptions, they just weren't translated.
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>>167881709
maybe soejima just really wanted to use that fox mask
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xsvAmMp7gI
>''And now lets talk about Morgana a cat of indetermined gender''
What did she mean by this?
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>>167885460
generating sjw sales for atlus usa
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/pg/ is dead!
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>>167886678
just like best girl
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>>167887356
ops posted the wrong girl
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>>167887637
unfortunately makoto yet lives
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>>167881154

>raita will never do persona doujins

why continue living
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Is this the new Persona spinoff?
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>>167888341
miring those cheekbones desu
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>>167888341
What the hell is wrong with her face..
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What if the PT are the ones who ran over Dojima's wife on the way to Sumaru City
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>>167888801
Makoto is a murderer!
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>>167880329
From what I can tell Carmen tells Anne to embrace the rumors of her sexuality and lets loose despite her not actually being a slut. Goemon doesn't really make sense as a Persona, but Yusuke does sort of act as the Goemon of the group if we're going by Lupin III. Necronomicon is supposed to be about forbidden knowledge or something out of place, Milady makes absolutely no sense for Haru, and Captain Kidd is pretty self explanatory for Ryuji.
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>>167888801
that would be an amazing twist, so no way it could happen
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>Eternal Punishment was 17 years ago

Hold me, lads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18E-1x3e-Jk
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>>167890378
>Captain Kidd is pretty self explanatory for Ryuji.
Talking about the design only? I only got those stitches in one of his legs
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>>167891878
>that would be an amazing twist
>/pg/ in charge of writting
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>>167888801
How did they travel back in time
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>>167877965

me too phantom. me too
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>no bathing scene in P5

why even live?
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>>167894015
why does marie have such a big nose
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>>167888801

i hate how vague this is. where the fuck are they going
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>>167894015
>no bathing scene in P5
good
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>>167894265

But I wanna see PG-13 levels of nudity from hot chicks!
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>>167894015
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you find the traitor passed out in an alleyway. what do you do?
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>>167895434

Make sure someone wakes up with a prolapsed anus
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>>167895469

Yamete. His life has sucked enough.
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>>167894015
I wish I could take a bath with the P4 girls
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>>167896228

So do I
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>>167895434
You should leave him be.
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>>167895434
Take a picture and upload it to his fan sites
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>>167893017
william kidd was a guy who was hung on trumped up charges of piracy and entered the public consciousness as a dread pirate despite being a mild privateer at best, it ties into his 'delinquent' image and all that
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>>167897545
I'm a delinquent for pirating every mainline Persona game.
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>>167894015

It's cause they can't do the whole "eek" perverts gag.

Anne probably wouldn't care, Futaba is too weird to know how to react and Makoto and Haru are too nice about it to be the ones to start the pervert rage.
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>>167894015
I would too busy staring at Haru's forehead to look at the other girls.
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>>167897954

>Anne runs over naked to the guys to strip their clothes off unwillingly for the girls to gawk at and make fun of
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>>167898214
best girl
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>>167898318
slut!
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>>167898214
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>>167898318
worst girl
best slut
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>>167897954
Should've flipped it around and had the girls spy on the guys
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>>167898365
>>167898403
delet
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>>167898214
>tfw anne will never humiliate you and laugh at your penis
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Retarded amphibian poster.
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>>167898654
>"Oh, you're circumcised anon? Can I see?"
>"Wow, I've never had a cut dick before... I wonder if it tastes different?"
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>tfw you will never cuddle Hardin and laugh at "WASSUP PERSONA" together
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>>167899637
AY YO delete this
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>>167899370
>falling for the cut meme
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Im going on a date with Makoto! Wish me luck
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>>167900998
No you're staying in your room and doing nothing.
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Does Yukari have bigger tits than Mitsuru?
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>>167902017
Am I hotter than you? The answer is yes.
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>>167902075
You must be a liar then, because Mitsuru has bigger tits than Yukari.
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>>167902017

Only shot in the P3 movies we get of Mitsuru's tits so judge for yourself
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>>167902017
arena mitsuru > yukari > p3 mitsuru

bust-wise
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>>167902402
I have bigger tits than you.
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>>167902017
>>167902473
I want to drown in both of their tits
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>>167902635
Considering I'm a B cup, yeah I would imagine you have bigger tits than me.
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>a girl in /pg/
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>>167902473
The P3 movies at least had good fap material. Every female got bigger tits and their giraffe necks were no more.
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>Belphegor and Eligor are both voiced by the same person as Kamoshida in English
Why? They were incredibly distinctly different voices in Japanese, but in English they're blatantly the same person?
It doesn't help that Eligor and Belphegor sounded super tough, but Kamoshida himself sounded like a total weakling in Japanese which really says a lot about him, but in English they all just sound like generic tough guys.
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>>167902768
there are, unironically, a minimum of 3 girls in /pg/
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>>167902904
So 3 girls, and me? Since there's only 4 people here
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>>167902635
mantits don't count as real tits
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>>167902926
woah anon that's one hell of a harem you have there
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>>167902936
Yes they do.
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Is Persona 4 worth playing if i watched the whole anime first?
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>>167902926
One of the three is a lesbian.
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>>167903069
if you watched the anime and really want more then sure
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>>167902885
you sorely overestimate the number of voice actors at atlus usa's disposal
frankly I am amazed that out of all the party members and co-ops there isn't a single double up on VAs
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REEEE WELL-KNOWN ANONS ARE THE EQUIVALENT OF TRIPFAGS
STOP GIVING RANDOM VAGINA-BEARING ANONS UNNEEDED ATTENTION
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>>167903336
t. femanon who cares about the well-being of this general

you are truly an angel
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>>167903303
i bet theyre being more careful about doubling up on npcs after ending up with yu and adachi talking to each other in ultimax
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>>167903336
At least it's not Lord Voldemort. That was not a good time to be on /pg/.
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>>167903456
they gave Yusuke Kanji's VA, they don't give a shit
we're in for another Yudachi and MCsuke situation
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>>167903584
>we're in for another Yudachi and MCsuke situation
Nah. MC and Yosuke were shit in PQ since Lowenthal used the exact same fucking voice for both. At least in Yusuke's case Mercer is doing a completely different voice, even if it sounds terrible.
Can't wait for Shido to be voiced by the protagonist's VA
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>>167903584
kek whoops i totally forgot about that one
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>>167903584
Technically Troy Baker is Kanji's VA. Matt Mercer is just the fill in.

But then again I doubt Baker will ever go back to his roots. He already has shown his true colors, especially after that Resident Evil thing.
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Today is February 10 and I'd like to say happy NEET Day, /pg/!

How would you celebrate that day?
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>>167903725
Mercer has been voicing Kanji for longer than Baker at this point
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>>167903778
By ordering pizza and crying myself to sleep
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>>167903725
>true colors
its just a job autist
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>>167903778
I'm currently eating noodles, she'd like that.
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>>167903778
By fapping to tons of Futaba doujin
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>>167903778
By impregnating your smelly NEET daughter, Shitpostjiro
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So can I ask how exactly the palace works in Persona 5?

I understand that The Phantom Thieves enter it through an App on their phones, but how? When they press the app does a portal open up or are they just instantly transported into the palace.

How does exiting The Palace work? Do they press the app again to exit? When they exit can they exit in a different place and end up in a different place in the real world or is there a fixed entry/exit point like with the TV world in P4?

Also when you enter the palace is there other places besides the dungeons? Not gameplay wise, but is there exist a world outside the confines of those dungeons in the universe itself?

Is the flow of time affected?
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>>167903884
Shut up Baker. Still mad at Nolan North for not giving a shit about your secret club?
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>>167903778
Pardon me, but why February 10 is NEET day?
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>>167903778
why is it happy neet day
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>>167903778
I thought Pisces started on the 18th?
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>>167904023
>>167904042

>February (nigatsu) + 10 (tohka)
>NIgatsu TOhka
>nito
>NEET

I hope this clears up

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/20009186.html
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>>167903336

as the lesbian anon i have no idea why i keep being mentioned but here's a (You) for your troubles
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>>167904298
Not that guy, but that's my bad. I remember a lot of anons that come here that's why.

I remember this one dude was a dentist from Europe, and another was a firefighter, and I remember there being a cop. I'm the nurse.
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Why does Goro get all the cool symbolic art?
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>>167903926
by entering the necessary keywords (palace owner's name, real world location corresponding to their palace, what they view it as). the app transports them to the other world, no fancy transition except for the navi making a sound

you go back to the real world by passing by the same spot you entered at. if you entered in a building hallway you go back by going through that hallway again. if you entered at a school gate you go back by going through the gate again. etc.

every palace is its separate world in that person's heart. how much of that world gets warped as part of the palace depends on the person. kamoshida's only warps the school into a castle, shido's warps all of japan into a destroyed, flooded landscape (the national diet building turns into a luxury ship).

iirc no.
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As the African anon, I'm a bit sad I don't ever get mentioned.
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>>167904491

So what is mementos then? Why is it endless?
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>>167904549
I will remember you if you tell me your country of origin.
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>>167904417
im the anon thats a loser
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>>167904641
that's all of us
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>>167904607
>So what is mementos then?
Everyone's palace. It's a collective palace of everyone.

>Why is it endless?
It's not. There is a very defined ending, the core.
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>>167904625
Chad, I moved to South Africa years ago though.
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>>167904710

So does everyone technically have a palace of their own, all you'd have to do is type their name in and you'd end up in their palace?
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>>167864313
It is but you fags are so contrarian you will never admit it even if it turned out to be another #FE
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>>167904712
why did you move from one shithole to another?
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>>167904846
I don't wish to move to Europe or the Americas, I'm not welcome.
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>>167904839
no

palaces only form if someone's desires get out of hand

people without a palace of their own can be found in smaller areas in mementos if you know their name tho
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>>167904839
You just type "Mementos".
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>>167904712
all i know about chad is the toyota war, which was pretty rad tbf
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>>167904939

okay, makes sense.

I was just wondering if it was like some alternative version of Tokyo like how the midnight hour encompasses the whole island in P3
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>>167903787

Nah they're about even.

Baker had P4, P4G, Arena, and half of the anime.

Mercer has Ultimax DAN Q and half of the anime.
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>>167904712
I will now call you Chadbro. Sorry to hear you moved to a shittier country. Try not to get raped.
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>>167904845
>It is
It really isn't.
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>>167905109
>chad
>better than south africa

are you serious dude
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/pg/ I am speaking on behalf of Hardin.
We don't care about your opinion.
Our dubs are more for our enjoyment than yours.
Deal with it.
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>>167904845
But both P5 and #FE sodomize P4 in the gameplay department. And P5s story is at least entertaining as opposed to 4s, not to mention the characters are also just slightly better than trash so that automatically puts them above P4s cast.
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>>167905703
>Our dubs are more for our enjoyment than yours
You really don't need to say that, it's pretty obvious
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>>167905636
Nah just fucking with you. West Africa is fucking terrible. In all seriousness though, don't get raped in rape capital of the world South Africa, dude.
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How will Joker act in P5A?
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>>167905703
I am speaking on behalf of half of /pg/.
We dont care about your shit dub, and some people actually imported the game and dont care about your awkward localization.
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>>167905704
>P5 and #FE sodomize P4 in the gameplay department
l-lewd!
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>>167905838
If only we had a dedicated and skilled enough fanbase to create a fan dub like Fire Emblem did for Fates.
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>>167905829
The same way he acts in P5. As a normal guy who likes his friends and cares for them in the real world, but gets upset like any other when he sees shit going down, and like a smug fucker in the other world with plenty of cocky one liners.
It's not like P4 where the protagonist literally has no personality and is a blank slate. Joker may not be his own character or even close, but he's got a definite personality - and it's most shown in the CG and anime cutscenes, which P5 actually has a lot of compared to P4.
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>>167905954
Fire Emblem is a better series though, so obviously it has a great fanbase. Person on the other hand is mediocre and only attracts teenage weebs.
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>>167905954
/pg/ dub when
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>>167905954
As the Phantom is from Sumaru City! guy, I'd be glad to voice Joker. I'll practice my yoshes.
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>>167906051
I guess this for the most part, but much less divided by circumstance, I expect Joker to be cocky and or snarky almost consistently no matter the situation, and he brings his sense of justice out with some flair when he's in combat, he'll probably tease his friends and bully his enemies.
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>>167906105
>implying we speak nippon in the first place
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>>167906083
I would've agreed with you before Awakening came out, now it's on the same level, if not worse, than persona
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LUL HARDIN IS DOING DAMAGE CONTROL ON NEOGAF
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>>167906470
Who gives a shit about Neofag?
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>>167906461
Awakening was a mistake. Fates and Conquest only cemented how bad its gotten.
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>>167906560
Yeah but Conquest was fun to play if you skip the story and dialogue at least.
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>>167906051

this. it still isn't much and he's definitely self-insertable, but some fags on here try to act like joker is as blank of a slate as the other protagonists when it's just not true.
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Hardin here

All you suckers will still buy the game even though the localization is subpar hahaha
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>>167906687
>if you skip the story and dialogue at least.
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>>167906781
If by "buy" you mean download for free, then yes.
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>>167906830
wtf i love yukiko now
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I'm curious: Why do I only see people bitching about the protagonist being silent as a negative thing with Persona? I've never seen that for ARPGs like DA, ME etc.
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>>167906721
Nigga what? All I see on here is talk about Joker's personality
>Joker is a slacker
>Joker is an asshole
>Joker is lazy
>Joker is cocky
>Joker is a smartass
Only problem I see is that some people don't really agree on what his personality is
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>>167906989
>DA, ME
>silent protagonist
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>>167906989
Because one game has a completely customizable character who's only purpose is to act as a vassal of destruction for the player, while the other can only be named, and is otherwise their own person in a heavily character driven series.
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>>167907036
The N word is unnecessary is not meant to be used in serious conversations Please refrain from using it.
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>>167906989
>DA, ME
>silent protagonist

Nigga wat?
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>>167907217
muh homie
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>>167907152

i worded that weird, i meant more in the sense of a self insert type protagonist where the player makes the choices and can decide the personality.
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>>167907217
Don't be such a bitch nigga, nigga.
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>>167906989
I don't play shit western games so I don't understand your comparison
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>>167907370
Nigga what?
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>>167907217
Ebonics is just as proffesional as any other language! You're not a racist are you?
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>>167907269
In those examples the players character is still a full fledged character even if their characterization is determined in large part by the player. It's the lack of characterization in general and lines in specific that puts people off in this case, not the element of player choice.
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>>167907194

why don't they just stop acting like mc isn't his own character, then? go all the way, give him the same personality but have it more pronounced, and voice his lines.
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>>167907629
Because then they lose the wish fulfillment fanbase
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>>167907629
atlus doesn't like to shake up the formula unless they have to
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>>167907578
p5 has plenty of characterization though all of jokers dialogue options show what kind of person he is.
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I personally wish they'd go back to the Tatsuya method and give the protags an official name but you can change it because you're a disgraceful insertfag or wish for your waifu to say your name.
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>>167907578

Could you elaborate on that? I haven't played any western RPGs, but now I'm curious about how they manage to give a character whose actions are all chosen by the player feel like a "full fledged character".
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>>167907876
yes but /pg/ hasn't played that one yet
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>>167907876
Yeah they're moving in that direction compared to 3 & 4.
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>>167907969
Are you saying Joker is a humble studious responsible nice guy? Because /pg/s got most of his character righ from what I've seen
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>>167907876

this can also be applied to previous games, though? i think characterization shines through most reliably to people when the player isn't in control.
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>>167908162
Then watch a movie, I understood your point as applied to P4, but the rest of them do a decent job
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>>167907876
>>167907969
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>>167907943
The Witcher series is probably the best example of balancing the two, it's mostly just a matter of tone and phrasing.
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>>167908315
You jelly?
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>>167908315
look at this guy bullying demons like they're the furry kids who play Pokemon during lunch, literally best protag
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>>167908162
I've not played the other games in a long time so I barely remember things like dialogue options, but I think it was the case before. P5 has some really fun dialogue options like "nya~" to Ryuji when he's getting mad at Morgana, or "I'm a ghost" when you first greet the group after the fake death, but I'm pretty sure the other games had silly dialogue choices in them too.
P5's protag does have much more of a personality though, but like you said, it's less in the dialogue choices and more in the scenes where you have no control.
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>>167906989

Because those games actually have alternate story paths and different endings. As does SMT regular

Persona though just has bad ending that ends the story early, or good ending that's the only one. And it's only story choices are to do Slinks/Confidents like the game expects you to, or don't and have the game still assume you did because some can't be skipped.

There's literally no point beyond SMT tradition and they might as well just give up and make protag their own person because they will in spinoffs anyway and the story doesn't gain anything from it.
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>>167908453
He's just like his father.
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>>167908315

if there's one thing that's consistent with joker it seems it's these dry one-liners and it really cracks me up
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>>167908512
>because they will in spinoffs anyway
that's really what makes the whole thing seem extra arbitrary
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>>167908482
They've never gone to the extent Joker has though. The closest thing we can compare to Joker would be the Devil Survivor 2 protagonist where he has a joke on almost all his options
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>>167908482
god he looks so hot
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>>167908824
its the eyelashes
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>>167908824
you're not as hot
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>>167908939
>t. kaneko
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>>167908824
what do people find so attractive about sloths?
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>>167905159
It really is
>>167905704
>And P5s story is at least entertaining as opposed to 4s, not to mention the characters are also just slightly better than trash so that automatically puts them above P4s cast.
See what I mean? Expect a lot of this when the game comes out
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>>167909030
How is that contrarian, P4 is almost unanimously hated here, the only places that praise it are numale cesspools like neogaf and reddit
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>>167869967
>Its been 6 years and absolutely no one has been able to find the original RAWs of this

Its fake senpai
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>>167908824
This

Persona 6 MC just wont compete
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>>167870536
It was a pretty stupid twist in itself that would amount to anything in English because it relies on meta understanding.
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>>167909030
I fail to see how that one anon's comment is any argument against P5 being good.
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>>167909281
She will be hotter
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>>167909203
'cause it wasn't from japanese tv raws, the watermark is for an american streaming service/cable provider that had licensed it
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>>167909348
>she

lol
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>>167909348
>thinking p6 will have a female protagonist
oh neogaf you are so out of touch, it's adorable
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>>167909443
And that makes even less sense since they would get the RAWS from the TV all of which doesn't have the double Chie.
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>>167909443
How likely is it the Persona 5 anime dub will air on toonami and bring in a shit ton of casuals.
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I want to eat watermelon with Rise.
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>>167909197
>How is that contrarian
>P4 is almost unanimously hated here

You're not too smart are you?
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>>167909542
It was a fucking jojo reference don't compare me to those faggots
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>>167906051

Feel free to disagree with me on this, but the way I've inferred his personality, Joker actually isn't really a normal guy at all. Maybe in a different culture, but in Japanese society he really isn't. Normalcy in Japan is to not stick out, to value what society wants over your own sense of individuality or sense of justice, and so forth. I think it's more of a wish fulfillment for Japanese players than trying to show what's "normal." And we saw Joker has been that since before the player got to control him, in the flashbacks and shit.
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>>167909316
Try reading it next time
>>167909443
The links for the that stream doesn't have double Chie.
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>>167909674
But that anon wasnt in favor of P4, I'm not seeing your point
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>>167909612
toonami watching casuals ARE the persona audience
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>>167909778
>Try reading it next time
Why? From the sounds of it he's not played the game given he makes a broad statement on "fun". Why would that be something to cite as a reason for P5 being bad?
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>>167909815
Contrarianism is going against the popular opinion retard.
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>>167909903
Which is why he's asking why his post is contrarian when it falls in line with the popular opinion?
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>>167909903
Right and that anon said P4 was bad, like most of /pg/ does, I'm not seeing the contrarianism
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>>167909992
But its not the popular opinion, this place is just an outlier
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>>167909765
Well the point is he acts passive on first sight, which is backed up by what his voice actor said about him. So in a way he's supposed to be a hybrid of a Japanese person and an American person
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>>167819112
I have to work with normans all day. Il spend as much time as i can being a useless piece of shit.
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>>167909992
But the popular opinion is that P4 is great. Why does /pg/'s opinion matter at all
>>167910054
>like most of /pg/
Why does /pg/'s opinion matter? Or rather why does the opinion of a few loud anons matter?
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>>167910103
>>167910186
But this is where he's sharing his opinion, so that's not contrarian. Unless your saying that anyone who dislikes what you like is contrarian?
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>>167905704
>>But both P5 and #FE sodomize P4 in the gameplay department.
Cool horseshit bro
>And P5s story is at least entertaining as opposed to 4s, not to mention the characters are also just slightly better than trash so that automatically puts them above P4s cast.
Seeing you struggle is such a delight, its going to be a spectacle come April
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>>167910186
>popular opinion is that P4 is great

So does P5.
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>>167910321
>Cool horseshit bro
weeeeew
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>>167910254
>But this is where he's sharing his opinion,
So you're saying that /pg/'s or rather a few loud anons opinion is the opinion of the Persona fanbase?
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>>167910321
Now you're samefagging? Are you really that upset that someone called your wish fulfillment simulator out as garbage?
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>>167910321
Too obvious mate. The part where you said P5 and #FE didn't have far better gameplay than P4 kinda gave it away.
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>>167910364
Why is it doing worse than The Golden then? Why is it that the only thing that ever gets talked about is a poorly written character?
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>>167910321
>Cool horseshit bro
>he unironically thinks p4 had better gameplay
lmao
play the game rather than form your opinions of /v/ shitposting.
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>>167910451
It's the opinion of /pg/ the place where he made his post. Nobody said anything about any fanbase. And you must have just come from r/persona if you think it's just a few loud anons hating on P4
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25_8Ar3JVg0
>watching this
>wonder why every turn-based rpg's UI looks so fucking clunky and uninspired - until it gets to P5
>realize this is just what jrpg UI looks like all the time and you've been severely spoiled by P5
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>>167910487
I'll give you C for effort but you really messed up wth that last sentence there
>>167910501
And you gave yourself away by praising P5 and #FE
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>>167910687
Kek he realized nobody shared his opinion and now he's pretending to "bait"
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>>167910608
>It's the opinion of /pg/ the place where he made his post
Except that other anon was notreferring to the opinion of /pg/. You fucking lose dumbass.
>. And you must have just come from r/persona if you think it's just a few loud anons hating on P4
Hate to break it to you kid but not that many people post here. So yeah you are the minority
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>>167910563
>doing worse than The Golden
Maybe you need to get your eyes checked. P5 is still doing best this year.
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>>167910563
>Why is it doing worse than The Golden then?
It's not. In fact, it's not doing worse than anything.
In Japan, P5 is the best selling game Atlus have ever released. It hasn't sold more than the international sales of P4G because right now P5 is only out in Japan, and the American, European, Chinese, and Korean versions have not been released.

>Why is it that the only thing that ever gets talked about is a poorly written character?
The real question is why do you think the talking points in a general on /vg/, the board where almost all "discussion" is waifushit and regular shitposting is indicative of the game's quality? Especially when only a select few of the general who've actually played the game.
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>>167910780
>He's still trying so hard
>>167910834
>In Japan, P5 is the best selling game Atlus have ever released
Wrong bitch. Its the fastest selling game they've ever released not the best selling game (that belongs to Persona 1)
> It hasn't sold more than the international sales of P4G because right now P5 is only out in Japan,
It hasn't sold more than Golden in Japan retard
>No rebuttal
Yeah I'll take this as a concession
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>>167910785
He was referring to his own opinion retardkun, are you retarded? He's only posting here so the rest of the "fandom" is irrelevant. If he goes to your subreddit right now and starts shitposting about how bad P4 is then he'd be contrarian, but he's not.
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>>167910981
Wrong again dumb bitch. Also that would still be contrarian because he didn't refer to his opinion from here so your ass is still wrong
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>>167910979
So according to your logic P1 is the best persona game.
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stop responding to b8
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>>167910979
>Wrong bitch. Its the fastest selling game they've ever released not the best selling game (that belongs to Persona 1)
Bit dated buddy, P5 surpassed P1 a long time ago.
And this isn't even including digital sales.

>It hasn't sold more than Golden in Japan retard
Refer to image.

>Yeah I'll take this as a concession
You can take it any way you like. But I'd like to note the fact your file name shows you're watching subtitled anime speaks volumes to the fact you haven't played the game you're posting about.
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>>167910834
P5 is there fastest selling title not best selling one and that's mainly because it had more copies shipped compared to previous installments
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>>167911065
>he didn't refer to his opinion here
What does this even mean, anon your carer on right now! You shouldn't be online at this hour!
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>>167904458
>symbolic
>when it's just over the top melodramatic
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>>167911162
>First Week Sales

You're pretty fucking stupid are you
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>>167908482
>but I think it was the case before.
Oh it sure as hell was
My favorite one was during the hot springs event when the guys make a sound, girls start suspecting something.
>has an option to meow too
>girls think it was a fox
>"it's a cat damnit it!"
I feel like a lot of people here forget that MC's and Yu's dialogue options also had tons of personality in them and it's not all just bland "yes" and "no" options.
Or just forget about everything in general. /pg/ really should replay the games in order before P5 is released. There's enough time to do that
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>>167911176
http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20161005075/
The media create sales as of early November pin P5 at about 430,000 copies sold in Japan, while Persona 1 is only 391,000. As of the PlayStation awards it got a Gold award (500k+ sold), putting it far above the rest.

>>167911275
Look in the rightmost column buddy, P5's sales are higher than P1's. Not just the first week sales one.
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>>167911162
>First week sales
Hurrr
>You can take it any way you like
No because you're just wrong.
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>>167911308
It's not that it was just yes or no, it's just they didn't really have personality, they were mostly just generic responses, and questions regarding certain things.
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>>167911379
>media create

You just keep sinking yourself deeper
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>>167911275
>>167911386
>First week sales
You don't need to keep samefagging anon. Basic math might be beyond you, but the rightmost column has total sales, and if you add the PS3 and PS4 versions of P5, you might be amazed to see that P5 is actually higher than P1!
Shocking, I know.
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>>167911485
They did
You are wrong
You're just following the bandwagon because you haven't play the gamne
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>>167911487
Media Create are perfectly reputable. You can stop shitposting any time. Business Famitsu's Rankings also put P5 at a similar number, and they're also perfectly reputable.
You are only outing yourself as either ignorant or full of shit by pretending otherwise.
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>>167911501
Also

>First Week Sales
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>>167911627
What? I've played 1 - 5, they're all obviously gonna have a joke option at some point, but replay the game and notice that they're mostly just either affirmative statements, a question, a romantic option, or a silly option. They don't have personality to them though it's just generic lines
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>>167911670

getting fucked in the ass by this man seems a lot more enjoyable than this thread right now
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>>167911485
>option to laugh at Kenji when he has his heart destroyed
>scripted S.Link break in Nozomi's S Link where all choices are just calling him out on his shit
They really did, that's why I said at the end of the post that you guys should replay the games. Most people just remember certain important parts and that's it.
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>>167911745
>he posted the picture thinking we can't tell he's samefagging
Are you blind? Or do you not know what LTD sales means?
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>>167911671
>Media Create are perfectly reputable
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>>167911745
Oh anon.
The reason I believed you to be a samefag is not because two people "disagreed" with me, but rather because two people made the exact same mistake and replied exactly 90 seconds apart, which is the /vg/ countdown.
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>>167911492

this general was better before P5 when it was just waifufags
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>>167911829
But that's not characterization, that's just a generic "be a dick" option
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>>167911379
>>167911162
>>167911845

>Persona 4 Golden has sold over 700k in Japan

Whelp
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>>167911863
>this image with this filename
Oh, it's the anon from the /v/ threads.
At least now I know you're just shitposting.
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>>167911996
It was always bait anon come on you should've known that
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>>167911957
>>But that's not characterization,
Neither is you Joker headcanon
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>>167911971
>Persona 4 Golden has sold over 700k in Japan
Please do tell where you got this incredibly true piece of information anon.

>>167912051
Yes, but I still find it adorable that it's the particular shitposter who has been shitting up the /v/ threads who's here too. Makes you realize how you tend to underestimate just how vocal one lone shitposter can be.
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>>167911957
and being a dick isn't a personality trait?
MC's constant "doudemoii" isn't a part of his characterization but Potter having this single, certain option is?
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>>167911996
>>167912051
>>167911887
>only one person thinks I'm stupid
No need to samefag paranoid anon
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>>167912068
It's not a headcanon when his dialogue options are consistently similar. None of Yu's dialogue options really say anything about him, he can't consistently say silly things like Joker can, and MC can't consistently be a prick like Joker can. But if you keep insisting that they do, please tell me what kind of people they are from their choices alone like you easily can with Joker
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>>167912126
>MC's constant "doudemoii" isn't a part of his characterization but Potter having this single, certain option is?
I mean the anon you initially responded to, >>167908482 was saying precisely the opposite. That the option to be a dick or have funny quips was always there, and that the bulk of Joker's personality came during cutscenes. So I don't really see your point?
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>>167911887
>90 seconds apart, which is the /vg/ countdown.
Man, remember when there was no cooldown?
And when it was introduced and moot said it's temporary?
Fuck that guy
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>>167912214
>It's not a headcanon when his dialogue options are consistently similar
But its not its just your shitty headcanon
>None of Yu's dialogue options really say anything about him
Translation; I've never played Persona 4
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>>167912243
Now you can post faster if you give Mootwo money!
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>>167912334
>He didn't actually answer my question
So your point is?
It's been a while sure but I've played them to completion and none of them really stood out to me as people in anyway.
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>>167912216
that's because at first I was agreeing with you and said that /pg/ as a whole needs to replay the games
Then you said all options in P3 and P4 were actually generic and had no personalitt which is when we started to disagree
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>>167912418
Because you're a fucking retard who apparently can't read
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>>167912484
>Then you said all options in P3 and P4 were actually generic and had no personalitt which is when we started to disagree
That wasn't me. I'm the guy who made the original post, and that's all I said.
On the contrary, I stated that I didn't remember the older games' options, and wouldn't make statements like that on them because of that.
I do think Joker has more of a protagonist than MC or Yu, but I certainly don't think it has anything to do with the dialogue choices.
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>>167912513
But you can't come up with a personality on either of them right now and I'm the retard?
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>>167912334
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>>167912609
>But you can't come up with a personality on either of them right now
Of course I can just how you think your headcanon Joker is the ideal personality
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>>167912604
>has more of a protagonist
Dear lord I am fucking tired.
*more of a personality.
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>>167912702
Then why don't you do it? I did it on the spot because Joker actually has a personality, and it's not a headcanon when most people agree to what kind of person he is.
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>>167912604
But the only cutscene that shows any kind of personality for Joker is the one where he gets arrested, the rest are all dialogue options.
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>>167912604

i feel like the dialogue choices are there to give you an illusion of choice, really. and i see them as "all three are IC or something the protagonist is capable of saying," but, the thing is, joker still has more personality when he's not being controlled, and it's also more consistent, than yu or mc.
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>>167912771
>I did it on the spot because Joker actually has a personality,
Headcanon
> and it's not a headcanon when most people agree to what kind of person he is.
The whole point of this retarded argument is that many people have different interpretations of what his personality is even the fucking VA says you're wrong.
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>>167912957
No it's not, stop back peddling, and the only thing the VA said was he was a good leader and hard to get to know, the fact that you can only insult my point and not actually prove me wrong goes to show how little personality MC and Yu have.
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>>167912771
psst

stop feeding the troll
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>>167913048
No it's fun seeing them act like retards
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>>167913040
>No it's not,
It is.
>>167913040
>and the only thing the VA said was he was a good leader and hard to get to know
Wrong again dumbfuck
>and not actually prove me wrong goes to show how little personality MC and Yu have.
Well you've admitted that you haven't played the game so...
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>>167913171
This is the same guy who was along people contrarian a minute ago.
Nigga go back to /v/ you ain't funny
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>>167912906
>But the only cutscene that shows any kind of personality for Joker is the one where he gets arrested
Uh, no?
Virtually every CG cutscene does. Not only that, he's also the most expressive of anyone in any of the cutscenes - despite him not being very vocal, they put a lot of detail into his expressions.
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lets give a protag dialogue choices but in cutscenes/action/plot events his personality and actions are completely out of the players control, and his idiosyncratic gameplay and time management choices are completely ignored, yeah thats a great idea

this half-assed bullshit sucks
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>>167912906

what? so the fact that he shows off and gets so cheeky with the cops and throws himself out of the window in that unnecessarily stylish way doesn't tell you anything about him? or how he's apparently willing to jeopardize sojiro's trust by using le blanc as bait in the ova, and says he'll "just cross that bridge when he comes to it" when the others ask him how he's got the balls? i'm not saying he's hyper-characterized here, he's still a persona protag, but let's just admit there's a bit more to him.
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>>167913259
>Wow...its fucking nothing
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>>167913259
I mean sure they give him as much characterization as Tom and Jerry would've gotten, but if they were gonna let him speak during cutscenes they should've just let him go all the way.
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>>167913306
you're arguing with a troll

just ignore him instead of feeding him
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>>167913259
>This is how retarded headcanonfags are

Jesus
>>
New rule: You MUST post a timestamp and a copy of your game with your posts if you plan on talking about P5.
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>>167913306
I thought we weren't including Daybreakers since that's supplementary material, it's wouldn't be fair if we're not including the 3 and 4 spin offs, so that can't count. And he never gets cheeky with the cops in cutscenes, we wouldn't know he's a smartass if not for the majority of his dialogue options.
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>>167913523

>he never gets cheeky with the cops in cutscene

chuckling and waving at them before he jumped seemed pretty cheeky to me
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>>167913580
Does he chuckle? I remember him just waving and saying "see ya"
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>>167913259
>Virtually every CG cutscene does
Translation; I have not played the game
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>>167912068
The main difference between Joker and the other protagonists is the degree of consistency with his dialogue options. Of course, most instances he has the normal, more sympathetic, and snarky responses, which at a glance is rather normal. However, the way they are framed completely changes that. Most importantly, the comedic options are almost entirely blatantly intentional misinterpretations to mock others and the sympathetic options are usually very cynical or doubtful while conveying a similar idea to the third. When limited to two choices, despite being similar much like in the other games, the second is also more consistently ironic. He also seems to speak notably more often than the other protagonists, having unprompted input at least a few times in conversations. It also helps that the higher quality animations make Joker more physically expressive and allow him to have more unique body language.

In Persona 3 and 4, dialogue options are narrowed down to a pair of vaguely similar questions and such far more often than in P5. This railroad sconversations in the prior two games and ease the VA cost since every option the player is given could vaguely fit what follows them. Otherwise, the only notable trends with dialogue options in the prior two games are how MC would have the opportunity to say, "I don't care," word for word now and then in the first half of the game and Yu had a habit of being romantically aggressive and causing people to become flustered. Both of which, especially in the settings of their respective games, tend to come off as more of the tone of the writing in general than either character himself.

If I'm mistaken, and MC or Yu's personalities are as consistently distinct as Joker's than feel free to correct me by providing all of the dialogue options in the two games in sequential order. I would actually appreciate it.

>>167912957
>VAs are now a source of reliable information on the meaning of a story
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>>167913691
>The main difference between Joker and the other protagonists is the degree of consistency with his dialogue options. O
Nothing but headcanon nonsense
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>>167913691
>This entire post

Also really easy to see the retards who have not played P3 and P4
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>>167913653

https://youtu.be/rnMRYzYES3w?list=PLD8XfJadc1bvBYupbiu-ibAIpccbcjBfV&t=385

Maybe not a chuckle, but close. I doubt Yu or MC would act this way in this situation? So even if he doesn't have a lot of characterization, we can at least say he is mostly characterized differently from them.
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>>167913523
>And he never gets cheeky with the cops in cutscenes, we wouldn't know he's a smartass if not for the majority of his dialogue options.
Because he's not a fucking idiot? He gets cheeky when he thinks he has the upper hand, and looks fucking terrified when he's being interrogated by cops. Like the scene where he grins and shouts "じゃな!" before diving out the fucking window versus his terrified expression when he's getting the shit kicked out of him.

>>167913676
Be a little more creative anon.
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>>167913770
>>167913910
>90 seconds apart with the same argument
Wew
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>>167913691

> feel free to correct me by providing all of the dialogue options in the two games in sequential order

yeah im sure someone will get right on that after you did the same for P5
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>>167913963
Nope just your headcanon
>>167913982
Its like reading from fanficion.net
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>>167913963
Oh no don't misunderstand, I believe Joker was way more personality than the last to protags, I just think it's shown better through dialogue options instead of cutscenes, but you do make good points either way.
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>>167914067
You are being actual evidence you fucking idiot, admit you are wrong. jesus christ what is wrong with you?
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>>167913691

I don't really care about the "does he have personality or not" fight right now, but I have actually been keeping a list of character actions I've noticed he does so far watching streams, and I really like how each character has their own distinct body language (Joker included) and quirks even when you leave them idle.
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>>167914151
It's a shitposter he got boring when all he did was start repeating headcanon, just ignore him
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>this is how you trigger a john hardin
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>>167914185
I like when he fixes his bangs, makes it look like he's thinking "I'm gonna look so shounen killing demons and shit"
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>>167913691
>and the sympathetic options are usually very cynical or doubtful while conveying a similar idea to the third.
Eh, he does get genuinely sympathetic/supportive options every once in a while. He can be pretty snarky, but he does start with Kindness at 控え目 for a reason, and it shows in some of his more amicable choices. I agree with the rest of what you wrote about Joker, though. There's definitely an overall consistency to his choices that I don't recall seeing to the same extent in the previous games, and his behavior, narration and the voiced lines he does get (battle dialogue, plus a very small number of lines in cutscenes like the casino escape or the broadcast hijack leading up to the Shidou Palace heist) remains in line with that too.
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>>167914315
>I don't know the specifics so I don't know whether you are right or wrong, but I know for sure that you are wrong.

Hardin has truly mastered the PR runaround speak.
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>>167914315
>"We can go off script, it's better and more fun that way!"
What the actual fuck.
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>>167913691

>VAs are now a source of reliable information on the meaning of a story

fukuyama jun's direct quote was "He's hard to get to know as a person, but he's a good leader and the rest of the thieves trust him deeply." which isn't groundbreaking, but i'm also not sure why it's being interpreted as "his VA literally said he has no personality," either. or why we can't trust that the VA at least got a tiny bit of direction from the producers with regard to what sort of person he is.
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>>167914315
Kek. Hardin can't recover.
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>>167914504

"He's hard to get to know as a person, but he's a good leader and the rest of S.E.E.S. trust him deeply."
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>>167914340

yes. that, and i also like it when he taps his foot, or spins his pen/smartphone on his hand. maybe he's the type to practice coin tricks if he's bored enough.
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>>167914697
>maybe he's the type to practice coin tricks if he's bored enough.
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>>167914315
Does Hardin genuinely think filling the game up with memes and things that wouldn't make sense in the original version makes it better? I get that localization isn't always gonna be 1:1 but your job is to make it as close as possible.
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>>167914032
Give me a day and I can actually get started on that if you want. I have most of the game on video.

>>167914401
By sympathetic I just really meant emotional, but I didn't want it to sound like I was saying they were melodramatic. For example, on the beach, he can assume Ryuji is talking about their hearts, whereas the first and third are treasure and swimsuits respectively. The second choice is also the one that questions if the Phantom Thieves did the right thing when the target confesses and basically dooms their lives. It's more about the underlying mindset of the dialogue than the dialogue itself.
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>>167913691
>"I don't care," word for word

i noticed this one comes up constantly too and it makes him seem like a real ass desu

i don't think he's a bad guy but like damn
>>
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>>167914847
Please do anon, we can compile all of it and finally end the Joker personality wars.
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>>167914867
the guy is literally dead inside dude, give him a break.

>>167914806
John "accuracy =/= quality" Hardin
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>>167914940
Next time people laugh at me for throwing a ball of paper into a trash can and missing I'm gonna quote my boy hardin
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>>167914762

the come hither is my other favorite thing he does. cocky bastard.
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>>167915108
Well MC does get his emo hair flip, I'm not sure if Yu gets anything.
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>>167915108
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>>167914470
>>167914490
>>167914546
>>167914806
Get your head off your asses

Ryuji speaks in a very colloquial Japanese, there literally nothing wrong with how hes being translated
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>yfw P3 remake remove femc completely
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>>167915271
>>167914340
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I love having my head on my ass desu
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>>167915271

thats disgusting dude
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>>167915341
>Ryuji speaks in a very colloquial Japanese
Almost everyone in the game does.
Colloquial talk shouldn't be localized as "Wassup" or "Get Rekt!". It should be localized as informal talk, because that's what it fucking is.
There is everything wrong with them changing the meaning and the impression of his lines and in its place putting in a bunch of dated memes that don't belong, and don't come remotely close to conveying what the original script was trying to.
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>>167915378
Who cares, feMC would have been cool if she and Yukari had some lesbian tension going on but theres none so shes worthless
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>>167915271
>feeding your pussy
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>>167915468

he goes right back to eating with that spoon after
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>>167915447
>yogafags
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>>167915378
>yfw P3 remake remove femc completely


one can only hope that both of these things happen
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>>167915341
haha nice Hardin! Now I wanna see you defend "You jelly?"
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>>167915341
Which of those anons said anything about Ryuji? We're making fun of Hardin saying accuracy isn't indicative of quality when localizing a game
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I feel like MC is just tricky in general beceuase it's hard to say if the generic lines really are just generic or actually intended to sound that way and part of him being apathetic and putting as little effort as possible.
Isn't the fact that all three protags have completely different, distinct personalities enough of a proof that their options aren't just generic and bland?
The personalities both MC and Yu have right now, in adaptations or spin-offs, are just a result of how the fanbase perceived them back when the games were just released, based on their actions in game (like Yu giving himself quests to feed the cats at Samegawa meaning he's a total catfag), dialogue options(MC either being a cunt even to a spooky little boy that shows up at nights in his room or not caring about anything), or the animations P-Team managed to make(or lack thereof in Yu's case). It's not like those things came out of nowhere and even people who were not exposed to the fanbase or series in general seem to have similar way of seeing them. People were pissed when Makoto used "ore" in the movies despite him never using any pronouns in game or called P4GA Yu a "defamation" for a reason.
>>167914185
> and I really like how each character has their own distinct body language (Joker included) and quirks even when you leave them idle.
I loved how the P5 artbook mentioned each PTs' habits and added weird details about them. It's a small thing but it really adds more presonality.
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>>167915378
they wouldn't dare
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>>167915536

thats disgusting dude
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>>167915536
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>arguing about the personality of self inserts

Lol
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I-I want to be Joker's friend...
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>>167915785
I wouldn't be friends with a stuttering gaijin faggot. Neithe would Joker
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>>167915703
Not just the fanbase, the Japanese fanbase. I'd love to know what the Japanese fans think of Joker, cause that's most assuredly going to be what they reinforce in the spin offs.
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Yu and Joker are the ones with distinct personalities, meanwhile MC has different personalities depending if its the movies, manga or PQ
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>>167915872
Joker would be friends with a stuttering gaijin if not only out of either sympathy or to bully him.
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>>167915872
Joker is not xenophobic
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>>167915973
Yu's personality is distinct in the sense that he's distinctly a by the book shounen protagonist without the butt monkey rep that comes with the title for obvious reasons.
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>>167916058
He is in my head. So that's all that matters.
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>>167915897

which side of the japanese fanbase, though? from what i've seen it's sort of what you see in the game, playful and cocky but mixed with the more "well-mannered" daily life persona. specific things i've noticed though is that they think he can also be pretty dorky, and that he's definitely got a motherly side.
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>>167914847
Ahh, yeah. In that case, I can agree with you on that too. The second choice does tend to have that sort of underlying tone to it more often than not.

>>167914185
The attention to body language for everyone's animations is really nice. There's a lot of small details, from everyone having their own way of standing/sitting/walking/running, to quirks like Haru keeping her left hand on her arm for self-comfort when uneasy/sad, to things you might not even notice like everyone having their own idle animation during a hold-up, to things like Goro's overall body language being completely different when he drops his detective prince act.

There's a lot of circumstantial voiced lines in battle and during dungeons, too. It's nice just how many smaller characterization details this game has, although some of it is really easy to overlook (or outright miss, in the case of some battle/dungeon dialogue).
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>>167916268
So they think he's sort of bossy? (If I'm reading motherly correctly) Also I wasn't aware there were multiple sides, if assume they'd take it just from the majority. And most importantly do they think he's lazy
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>>167916473
Motherly as in caring. That particular bit of characterization in the fandom comes from his highest Kindness rank being 慈母神, which pretty much means "loving mother god."

>that spoiler
Haven't really seen any of that in the JP fandom myself, for what it's worth.
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Why are all the protag such a mary sue?
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>>167916789
That's interesting, do the other social stats have any memey max titles?
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>>167916873
cause people don't want to play as junpei or Ryuji
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>>167916473

motherly more as in a tendency to take care of the others, especially futaba and yusuke. there's lots of comics out there of him making bento for them and stuff.

in general he seems to take good care of his friends? the others are always talking about how reliable he is (no that is not unique to joker, i know, but he's often characterized this way), or maybe it's because of shit like feeding morgana with his own spoon like here comes the airplane.
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>>167916873
Maybe they'll give Joker some flaws
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>>167917062
Knowledge: Fountain of Wisdom
Charisma: Man of Witchcraft
Courage: Lionheart (literally "Lionheart" in English)
Wisdom: Super Magic
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>>167917125
Wasn't there a personality test in Japanese about which Thief you were most like? What did they write for Joker?
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>>167917170
He's already a complete speghetti-spilling faggot in the game
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>>167917317
>tfw they're all friends
>tfw FeMC and MC are fuckbuddies
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>>167917346
H-haha j-jokes on you! T-that was all a profound ruuuse! Hehheh *sweats*
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What did he mean by this
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>>167916873
>>167917170

i like joker but there's no denying he's a self-insert, after all. although you can read into certain things MC and joker do as flaws (less with yu imo), the player character still doesn't need to have flaws because it's more about the wish fulfillment, being special, and the strong leader who everyone else relies on. and all your friends are particularly big fuckups in p5.

as always during your first play-through, there are certain dialogue options you can't choose because you're not kind or brave enough, but that's not unique to p5, and you can still max that shit out and be perfect.
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>>167917548
Black "people" are the enemy
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>>167917429
>tfw if the Investigation Team and Thieves encountered each other they would probably fight at first
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>>167917739
I wonder what the PT thinks about IT & SEES and vice versa
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>>167917638
P5 only has one locked option, which is calling Shido out during the elevator scene. Otherwise I'm not really a fan of the whole wish fulfillment thing, it's insulting to me, if I wanna escape I wanna escape as myself and see how I'd manage with my pros and cons, you know like every human being does, specially for a game that prides itself on "deep characterization", the leading man should be know exception.
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>>167916468
>Goro's overall body language being completely different when he drops his detective prince act.

what's it like?
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>>167917317
the perspective on ryuji's hair makes it look like he's standing in front of a fan or something
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>>167917860
>P5 only has one locked option, which is calling Shido out during the elevator scene
Huh. That's the only one I noticed, but I just assumed there were others I never tried.
I don't like that "feature" typically, but having it be used for one line only is actually pretty cool, and gives it impact.
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>>167917307
>Man of Witchcraft
>Super Magic
Re:Fantasy crossover confirmed
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>>167917860

i agree, but atlus wants to play it safe when it comes to mechanics like that. i think they've gone further than before with adding established tone to the main character but they don't want to overwhelm the large majority who just want their self-insert.
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>>167917307
>Fountain of Wisdom
is joker the holy grail ??
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>>167918016
Well it's not like they haven't been making strides, Yu is by no means flawed but at least the made him have a fear of loneliness in the anime, and MCs apathy was definetly played as a flaw in the movies. Since P5 has already done a pretty good job giving Joker his own identity, it's possible they'll give him some sort of flaw too, even if it is something as generic as "too much pride", or being too concerned with heroism that he might put someone's life at risk.
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>>167917860
>>167917897

no, there are more. you can't talk to makoto if you don't have intelligence raised at one point, and you also can't choose a certain option when speaking with iwai, because you need more bravery, and then there's that time you're unable to open the door for yusuke because you lack dexterity. those are the ones i've seen, along with the shido thing. i'm sure there are others, though.
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>>167918273
Sojiro is the holy grail
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>>167918336
No anon those aren't locked dialogue options, those are just stay checks for social links, otherwise social stats would be useless. You can always go back to all those scenes when you have good enough stats, but in Shidos case if you don't have enough courage you'll have to settle for being passive until new game plus.
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>>167916093
I thought we were talking about base games, not Arena and Ultimax.

And goddamn, I really need to replay the games. It took me going to a store and thinking the entire discussion over to remember details like pic related.
Yu has no sense of humor whatsoever and when you pick the options that are actually jokes, no one ever finds them funny except for Naoto in a single scene. MC doesn't give a damn about art but is very passionate about music(obviously), can't remember if they comment on him when you pick photography though. Yu can speak English fluently, cheers up Nanako with magic tricks and himself by making various origami animals(not just cranes), MC is probably either good at or likes math since when you go to library, he usually solves math problems.
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>>167918463
if he's good at math, why would be he studying it all the time

checkmate atheists
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>>167918445
I highly doubt it's even possible to get max courage at that point.
I think the reason they even use that mechanic there is to further drive home the fact you have no power in the real world against these people.
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>>167918545
maybe he enjoys it? It's not like people only study things they suck at.
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>>167918463
im almost certain its randomized or at least varies the canvases. i don't have a save to check but i coulda sworn his isn't the shitty looking doodle every time
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>>167918552
Maybe but I also think it's supposed to demonstrate Joker's genuine fear over the Shidou situation and why he feels he needs to be passive to stay out of trouble, despite everyone around him being just as pissed off at Shido for his bullshit.

>>167918463
I feel so retarded realizing just now the Orpheus = MCs love of music connection, that's actually pretty neat imho, I wonder how Izanagi and Arsene share quirks with their user.
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>>167918463
>MC doesn't give a damn about art but is very passionate about music(obviously)

when the fuck is this shown
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>>167918593

yeah it really tends to be the opposite case actually.
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>>167918823
Headphones
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Reminder that feMC got rejected by fucking JUNPEI
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how's it going tonight /pg/
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>>167917860
There's another locked option in one of the first scenes with Igor, it's one of the more assertive options and requires courage, IIRC. Haven't been able to check what it does yet, though.

>>167917861
A lot rougher, basically. He starts doing things like crossing his arms defiantly, gestures much more and in grander ways, and he lets his perfect standing posture slip during a few moments. He still keeps some of the body language he had as a party member (putting his hand on his hip, crossing his arms and raising his left hand to his chin, his idle pose in battle), but even some of his mid-battle animations change a bit (he backflips out of the way of attacks when dodging instead of jumping to the side).

>>67917062
The only other one that seems to have become a bit of a meme is the one for charisma, 魔性の男/Devilish Man. The ones for Knowledge (知恵の泉/Fountain of Wisdom), Courage (ライオンハート/Lionheart) and Dexterity (超魔術/Super Sorcery) barely seem to come up at all compared to the other two.
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>>167918880
Okay, so he listens to music a lot

>>167918909
serves that bitch right for trying to steal chidori's man desu
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>>167918828
Not really. When you like something, you usually want o git gud at it. I mean, people go to unis or art schools exactly because they want to learn, even if it's just a waste of time.
>>167918463
I was replaying P3 recently,
Somewhere at the beginning of Yuko's S.Link she says that MC instead of following proper techniquescomes up with his own stuff that he finds more efficent.

and holy shit I forgot how cringy the beginning of P3 is. The entire part with Yukari telling MC not to tell anyone what happened last night what just awful.
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>>167915108
>>167915237

i don't think i remember yu getting anything. i like how joker's is actually interactive with the environment and more indicative of his personality than just a little hair flip, though.
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What was the point of adding Ken as a romance option in P3P? Did anyone truly want that?
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Is Femtom a slut?
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>>167919158
FeMC did.
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>>167919127
yu just sort of stretches his neck and rolls his shoulders a bit, it's less pronounced that the other two animations
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>>167909551
The Japanese RAWs absolutely had double Chie.
That was what made it so funny.

The fixed it for later airings, and of course the BD's.
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>>167918757
Izanagi reincarnates into the main character of the first megaten game, Yu is the main character of the first persona game. Arsene is a thief, so is Joker.
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>>167919293
all the protagonists are desu
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>>167919407
it's not pronounced per se but it's also his idle animation pretty much in everything, including sprites in Arenas. IIRC MC does the hairflip only when you make him use axes.
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>>167918860
Co-op when
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I have an unironic, genuine, honest to god question. Personality wise, what's the difference between Haru and Makoto?
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>>167823143
Lol how? Quit shitposting falseflagger. Unlike any of those other ships that one happens ingame. Don't compare into to fanwank docked ships.
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>>167919619
Play the game
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>>167919619
Haru is a better Fuuka
Makoto is a more dedicated Mitsuru
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>>167919659
a lot of things happen ingame, doesn't mean they're good
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>>167919589
yeah iirc he has different ones for each animation set. the hairflip is probably the most memorable though
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good night /pg/
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>>167919676
But from what I've gathered it's more like

Fuuka--------------Haru------Makoto----------------Mitsuru
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Hola /pg/
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>>167919886
>ywn challenge goro to a dual
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>>167919886
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>>167919589
It's practically the only thing retained from P4's animations in his Arena moveset (which is for the best really)
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>>167919963

i legit thought thumbnail was kokoro fanart
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Someone was asking about the Adachi cameo in P5
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if Joker could be one other Persona protagonist which would he be?
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>>167920428
Fuck you
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>>167920571
piercy so that arsene could go even faster
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>>167920571
Joker probably self inserted as MC and went way overboard which is why he's always fixing his bangs
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>>167920165
breaking the card is the same, I think
And other than those two, it's not like they had anything to retain
I'm still kinda salty no one ever translated the interview from P4D artbook. Few months before the game was released there was an interview where they talked a bit about the choreography and how they picked styles based on each character's personality. Was hoping the artbook would go into details about that.
And I'm just salty in general that no one translates the artbooks. We get small parts at best and that's all. Even though CERTAIN PUBLISHER was supposed to release an English version of PQ artbook LAST YEAR. I STILL REMEMBER, UDON. YOU FUCKING PROMISED.
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>>167920815
udon is far too busy putting out fucking terrible original street fighter comics to bother with things like that
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>>167920815
>And other than those two, it's not like they had anything to retain
I mostly just meant how the base stance is totally different. He's not the only character who wasn't just directly adapted of course but iirc that's the largest departure
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Groo
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>>167921190
>I mostly just meant how the base stance is totally different.
this actually kinda bothers me desu
like, maybe it didn't look good in original game and it would look like shit as a sprite but it was still a proper sha no kamae stance and they changed it to him just kinda holding the sword in one hand
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>>167904458
That one isn't the best example.
Anyway, that usually happens for characters with sad/tragic stories.
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>>167921647
yeah but aesthetics > authenticity, especially for both anime fighters and persona
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>>167921851
>>167911253

i was referring to p5 characters only my dudes
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we're dying again
anyone have any idea for another equally autistic argument?
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>>167917860
>>167918336
>>167918941
Let's not forget that early one with Goro where /pg/ thought Joker said he wanted to eat him
Turns out it was an insult or something
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>>167923063
there's that doujin event, so post your wishlist or something
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>>167923437
porn
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>>167923094
there's no choice like that in the game unless someone here REALLY fucked up a translation
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>>167923765
there indeed is not
>unless someone here REALLY fucked up a translation
man, you have no idea
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>>167923801
>>167923801
>>167923801

New thread to be dead in
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