AGDG - Amateur Game Development General

first for java

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goodnight agdg

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Reposting. Let me know what you think of this title screen music please.

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>>167687964
At some point the melody is lost, and it doesn't really feel like a title screen without a strong, memorable melody.
I really don't like what you're doing with the triangle channel. And the beats should have faster decay/slower release.

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What makes a dark rainy street comfy instead of spooky?

Or should there be something different outside the window?

am i banned?

>>167688419
More light.

In game maker, how many scripts are too much scripts?

are scripts that span a single line too much?

>2017
>can't read hangul
lmao??

>>167688419
Ambient noises.

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I wonder how complicated the actual scripting is for "Sonic running through a loop" It seems fucking daunting to me.

>>167688840
It's on-rails m9.

>>167688840
there's an article explaining how it worked out there somewhere
answer: p complicated

>>167689052
Not in the old games. In the 3D it is.

>>167688840
I don't know how they did it but I'd do it by having him go on rails until a full loop has been done. The player is in charge of speed the same as always, and if the speed drops too much, he goes off rails and controls normally. You'd do the same thing for those helices that he runs around inside.

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>they feel for the textures meme

>>167689119
>Not in the old games.
Yes it is. It's just a non-conventional rail, but you're highly mistaken if you think that the old sonic games are driven with only physics.

Just a reminder, if your game can be classified in any of the following:

>Unity Game, Source Game, Art Game, Platformer, Retro, FPS, Pixel-Art, Casual Game, Roguelike, MMO, Episodic, Contains DLC, Monthly Subscription, Social, Souls-Like, Progressive, SJW, LGBT, Anime, or Furry

Then your game is going to be shit and you should just give up on it and start working on something actually GOOD.

>>167688840
http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Physics_Guide

>>167689394
I know good games in every one of those categories tho.

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I finally got a drawing (somewhat) done for the game I'm starting on. It's mostly just to cement the main character's appearance, as I don't have a good idea of what I want the enemies to look like. It's going to be a stealth game that mainly revolves around using your lantern to solve puzzles.

Thoughts? I know the linework and shading is pretty messy, but I don't really have a steady hand so I have to make a lot of small strokes.

>>167689545
Oh yeah? NAME TEN (10 [T E N] )

>>167689394
i wonder where that guy who posted two niggers running through a city every other day for a week went to
you remind me of him

>>167689694
Just mad that I am spouting truthful rhymes left and right busta. Where is your GOOD game?

>>167689801
my game is completely irrelevant to this conversation and the fact you ask me about my game shows that you have no sensible arguments of your own and are looking to discredit me as a side of the conversation rather than solidifying your own view as the correct one

>>167689932
Attempting to deflect my question into the ocean ain't gonna help you little brutha. You got no game son, just keep posting your cripple gif every thread and roll away like them nodevs you is, boy.

Stupid programming question here --

Two ints, name1 and name2. Either can be anything from 0 to 7

I have a huge list of names[]. Say I want to find:
names[32]

I want to find it like this:
names[name1 + name2];

but obviously, it'll give me names[5];

what do. I feel like this is a really obvious answer as well

>>167690083
name1*10 + name2

>>167690083
what

what are the values of name1 and name2?
if they are units and tens you can do name1*10+name2

>>167690063
it was you who attempted to steer the conversation into the direction of my game in order to pinpoint how it matches your vision of a game of lesser quality, which would be supposed to show me in a bad light and disqualify me from any further retort

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Any suggestions for improving the UI?
Also thanks to the nice anon helping me yesterday.

>>167690083
This only works if your programming language supports variable name concatenation.

>>167690273
>mixels
delete everything

Could a game where you play a necromancer and rely almost entirely on summons work? You would probably have some limited offensive and defensive magic, but the focus would be on summoning the right combinations of monsters for the task.

>>167690231
Dis lil nukka still don't get it that I said hims game be bad and then he flippin' his shit cuz straight up busted his ass with my dope truths.

The fun fact is he aint got no vidcons to begin with and now he be trippin' like a mofuggn nodev.

>>167690273
Try gettin' better at art.

>>167690273
>>167690404
100% this

>>167689915
you could easily sell your game if you just added some scenery and gory effects. perfect for let's play channels.

>>167690443
Where is your game?

>>167690273
normally I'm not against mixels but Jesus, every single pixel in your screenshot is different sized

>>167690418
Wizardry 2 did this.

>>167690527
Right here. http://store.steampowered.com/app/343150/

Where is yours?

>>167690574
isn't that guy dead or something

>>167690574
I actually thought the creator of this game was like a 12 year old and felt pretty shitty about people bullying him.

But he's a literal grown adult, what the fuck.

>>167689296
>chromatic aberration
do you play as a video camera?

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>tfw in the dev zone
>making progress like crazy
>everything coming together perfectly
>have to drop everything to go to work

Off to a great start here folks.

>>167690727
Now you know my pain.

This is why I am here shitposting.

>>167690660
he's just attention whoring on twitter i think
people only meme his own tweets around, never seen any replies and i can't be arsed to see what happened to a shill who walked into the wrong place at the wrong time and instead of backing off before it was too late he went full retard

>>167690110
>>167690219
>>167690280

thanks for the help guys. I figured out a fix in the end, it's ugly as hell but it works:

sum = int.Parse(name1.ToString() + name2.ToString());

name = eachLine[sum];

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>>167690884

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>>167690727
>go to work
>have crazy ideas and get really motivated
>come home exhausted
>watch youtube videos and go to bed

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https://webmshare.com/omN4o
toying with effects and audio effects

>>167690884
wait a fucking second nigger
you have two integers you turn into strings, then concatenate, then parse them into integers again
why the fuck don't you just use the numbers

Daily Reminder Gamedeving will not make you money only do it if you actually enjoy making art or programming

>>167690518
i have to finish the movement before i can sell it. its missing a lot of standard conventions.

>>167690884
holy fuck i've just realised how obvious your answers are and how stupid my method is
fuck

>>167691072
Are you literally retarded?

He has 2 variables lets say x and y.

x = 10
y = 10;

He wants to get a value from an array with the numbers.

If he adds them he gets 20, he wants the number 1010 which is 10 + 10 as strings.

>>167691229
>Two ints, name1 and name2. Either can be anything from 0 to 7

>>167691159
>finish a game before selling it
>not robbing peoples money with early access bullshit

>>167691229
x*10+y
done
are YOU literally retarded? Is this what OOP does to people?

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Though nearly killed by flu, I managed to finish the inventory system. There's some roughness in places, but it's functional enough for now.

>>167691072
because im an idiot, ive been fucking around with base-7 all day and its fucked with my shit

>>167691336
Yeah OOP killed my family.

>>167689915
I don't understand what kind of game are you trying to make with this in unity? Also, what tools are you using besides Unity

>>167691028
Looks tight

>>167690083
>>167690884
having to do some ugly hack is a good sign that you're using the wrong data type to begin with.

>>167689546
anyone?

>>167689546
its shit

>>167691268
he fucked up but the meme should die desu desu

>>167691038
too fast

>>167690083
>>167691509 is right, you should probably be using a multidimensional array. Though, x*N+y is how a multidimensional array is typically implemented internally.

>>167691346
i like it. looks very responsive. good work.

>>167691614
It's a good meme and it's educational for /agdg/ to know how to NOT handle your game

>>167691394
It's ok breh, but you got the correct answer given to you twice. Don't force what you're trying to do, use the chance to learn the ez way.
Even if it was base 8, it'd be x*8+y

>>167691028
looks tite
>3MB
>B&W gif
how

>>167691617

It's only up to 130 knots there though.

>>167691268
I've genuinely tried to enjoy his game, even got 3 friends to co-op it, but it's mediocre trash. Would have probably downloaded it for free 10 years ago when indie games were new and rare and not AAA but more hip, but it's sad if it's actually him that came here and shitposted.

What is a decent amount to give to a friend's game kickstarter where they won't feel offended with the amount? Is it like the amount you'd give at their wedding?

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>>167691415
its a sword fighting with shooting elements and physics platforming. i'm just using unity and probably blender at some point.

>>167692294
50 dollars seems the perfect amount desu.

>>167692294
one tier higher than the copy of the game one

>>167692294
depends on how much work went into it so far and how good you think their ideas are.

>>167691976
God damnit his fuckin' facebook is locked. That place was a GOLDMINE.

>>167692339
Ohh I see that is pretty cool. How did you learn to make the guy react to the sword? Did you just go through the 3d Unity tutorial video basics and played around with the documentation?

>>167692535
>how did you do X
>did you just do it
Yes, anon.

Anybody using Clickteam?

>>167692631
C L I C C

what do you guys eat or drink when gamedeving?

What is the best gamedeving food?

>>167692412
>>167692421
Thanks!

>>167692435
They put in a lot of work. They also said they'd support my game too if I ever did a kickstarter, but I won't do a KS, so it's just a gift to them. They might expect more if they think they're reciprocating later, though, so I want to do whatever they expect?

>>167689546
I like it, but I'm no expert tho. Aren't her arms a little bit too thin?

Maybe the puzzles, game could be something like keeping the monsters away with your light? So you always have to manage to keep it lit and not to get ambushed from behind?

If you get the monsters done, they could nicely fit in the dark of the background of your image just how you started.

>>167692737
Why did you post the same thing in /dpt/?

>>167692737
I only drink Water™ when I game dev.
>eating food while gamedev
I can sense how fat you are from here.

>>167689296
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeyzi8e6-yw

>>167692535
i just trial and error different solutions until i come up with something i like. for this one, he has a range that he reacts to objects near his head from, and uses apply force to move the arm there.

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so

i went back to 2 directions (left and right) because the 6 directions looked ugly and a man must know his limits

i might go back to 6 or even 8 directions in the future though

slimes absorb your bullets and spit them back, but are weaker to magic damage
one thing to note here is that when i give them actual graphics it's gonna be much more obvious that it's absorbing your bullets because not only it won't have the white flash that signifies getting hit and taking damage, but hopefully also will show the bullets being absorbed and other graphical thingies that this rudimentary placeholder can't do

wisps just spin a thingie around and throw it at you
they're admittedly pretty lame but i'll figure something out i guess

>>167692884
Can you add my OC to your game?

>>167692884
Enter the Gungeon isn't even that good lmao.

>>167692884
your enemies need much better art for game

>>167693061
thank you captain obvious

>>167692997
Do you want to die?

>>167692785
>there are 3 people RIGHT NOW browsing both threads

oh my GOD

>>167692785
it's a rivalry between /agdg/'s enginedevs and /dpt/

>>167692957
no, fuck off

>>167692957
if it doesn't look horribly out of place i probably wouldn't mind
what's your oc?

>>167693061
hey, they could be squares

>>167693106
what is DPT

>>167693208
no one said DPT

>>167693208
daily programming thread, mister nodev

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>>167692737
i drink mostly water and coffee and eat some vegetables.

>>167693314
>daily look at my 50 lines console program thread

>>167688419
The activity outside, the lighting, the ambience, and the interior you're viewing it from along with its lighting/ambience/etc.

Is there any reason for me to try out Monogame if I'm used to libgdx?

>>167693919
Yes, C# blows Java out of the water.

How to become a one man army? Every single time I work with someone, they end up bailing out and not answering e-mails, then finally getting back to me weeks later with some half-assed, unfinished shit. I don't care if the reality is people don't want to work with me, I just want to actually finish one fucking project.

>>167693991
fuck you.
if c# was so good then why isnt many games made in it then?

Java has Minecraft and Runescape.

>>167693919
It's buggier but does more work for you

>>167693919
Yes, Java is an absolute trash language for video games.

>>167693919
doesn't hurt to broaden one's horizon.

>>167693919
Better asset pipeline.
No java vm

>>167694039
Not an argument.

>>167694020
Learn a little bit about everything while trying to make a game and failing a lot. Then learn a bit more about everything while still trying to make games and still failing a lot.

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Anyone interested in making a PS1 game? To run on actual hardware, I mean, not just a PC game with artificially pixelated graphics.

>>167693991
Java and C# are pretty much the same

>>167694103
LOL!

You just got fucking destroyed so hard your brain melted and you have to scream
"N N NOT AN ARGUMENT!!!!" because you have no rebuttal

Your ass is:
[ ]not destroyed
[x]destroyed

>>167694084
C# runs on a vm too though?

>>167694020
What are your roles and what are the roles of the other person?

So, one week of Comfy Jam has passed. How many games can we expect to come out of it? So far, we have
>the WW-like sailing game
>two different bonfire games
>the toy train game
>the fishing game
>the toy plane game (?)
>the girl sitting on sofa game
Am I missing any? Not bad for now.

>>167694138
why? the ps1 is shit

>>167694149
No, they're not. They're superficially similar but C# has actual decent R&D behind it and has many useful features whereas Java is a stagnant "simple" pile of garbage.

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>>167693858
it was already pretty good but the last line destroyed me

thank you for this, anon

>>167694046
>>167694064
>>167694084
Thanks, guess I'll look into it.
I did a little bit of work in XNA a few years ago, is MG the exact same thing or are there differences I should be aware of?

>>167694174
Yes, but not the java vm.
Game distribution is easier on windows and easierer on mac and linux because no java vm

>>167694320
It's a reimplementation. Same API.

>>167694306
As a guy who has programmed in both they are practically the same both have useful features and it feels like you are programming in the same language

>>167694138
if there is a good devkit that doesn't make the whole process a pain in the ass, i'd eventually look into it maybe

I use Game Maker and I roughly know C# and I want to learn Lua so I can use Löve

On a scale from 1 to 10 how much of a bad time will I have

>>167694469
If you use GM that means you can't program, kill yourself.

>>167694369
You could just package the JRE with the application, no distribution hassle involved
https://github.com/libgdx/packr

>>167694247
There's over 40 participants, but only two entries.

You're probably missing quite a few.

>>167694441
As a guy who has programmed in both I disagree.

>>167694369
>Game distribution is easier on windows and easierer on mac and linux because no java vm

But the whole point of jvm is it can be ran anywhere???????????

>>167694469
Love and Lua are terrible.

>>167694469
Lua is always a bad time

>>167694689
>>167694657
fug, how so?

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>>167694690

>>167691028
Fuckin' rad.

Lets have an /agdg/ agreement

Which are the top two best 2d engines?

Which are the two top best 3d engines?

>even if I can pull off the entire concepts in paper down to the very last line of pseudocode, I can't bring myself to put them into my game

should I amass concepts until I get a dev high and apply them all, or force myself to put them into the game as I go?

>>167694320
It recently became equal or greater than xna, which is great. It's moved from being a tool to port xna gams to mac and linux to a viable library.
There's also FNA, but that's just trying to be an open implementation of xna, they don't even have an asset pipeline.

>>167694537
Well, you have to package it, that's the less easier part.
The less easierer part would be linux and their retarded amount of jvm implementations.

>>167694626
[compile once run away joke]

>>167694469
Lua is piss easy to learn until you want to use the meatier stuff, which isn't needed most of the time. Löve is also super easy, the docs are great, and it's actually fun to use.
using lua+love makes it troublesome to manage big projects, that's why it sees little use outside of small gamejam games.
Also I'm doing some math heavy stuff in lua and i'm hating the lack of ++ operators, continue operators, and the fucking 1-indexed arrays

>>167694690
>>167694836
Every post like this (pic, no text) should be ignored.

>love2d
>lua
stop kidding yourself

>>167694914
All the best engines are the engine that fits your project best, is presently being supported, and which you're willing to put the time in to.

>>167694914
-Monogame
-Allegro

-Ogre3D
-Source

>>167694914
Gamemaker, Ethanon


UE4, Lumberyard

>>167694914
>Which are the top two best 2d engines?
unity
gamemaker
>Which are the two top best 3d engines?
unity
unreal

>>167694285
>powerful enough that it can do games with large, complex, interesting 3D worlds
>weak enough that the modelling, texturing, and general asset production work can be kept somewhat manageable
>powerful enough that games can be written in C with a minimum of assembly fallback or mem mapped io
>weak enough that a high performance engine design and efficient implementation is needed, instead of just throwing modern GHz at the problem
>sufficient input hardware (DualShock) that game ideas are not limited by interface complexity
>full quality non-chiptune music is possible
tl;dr: It was the last console where it was somewhat feasible for a small-ish team to make something that felt at home on it.

>>167694461
There is an unofficial FOSS SDK: https://github.com/simias/psxsdk but I have no idea how capable it is. To be honest I was thinking of just using the real Psy-Q one, and avoiding being too loud about it. It seems unlikely that anyone would care now.

>>167694723
Lua is a BR scripting language that's worse than Ruby + Love's documentation is complete shit.

>>167694914
- Game Maker (pixel art)
- Unity (not pixel art)

- Unity (small projects)
- Unreal (big projects)

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Rate my music out of anime:
https://soundcloud.com/ec2151/fantastic-soldier-roland-mt-32

Going for that "magical girl w/ sword" feel.

>>167691028
Very NEC PC-88/98. Really dig the look. Make sure that script is polished by the end though!

>>167694020
Sad to say, but in my experience the easiest way to get someone to stay on task is to offer them money.

>>167695061
>>167695109

bakas

>>167694935

You need a design document, otherwise your game will be an unfocused, bloated mess.

>>167695064
I've used Net Yaroze, and it's alright, you should consider it too.

>>167695093
but Löve's documentation is actually really good?

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I finished the combo, so I can test it out in practice later.
But who cares WHEN YOU CAN ACCELERATE YOURSELF TO 290KM/H WITH ROCK AND A WRENCH
I also found out some other crazy shit, but that's for another time

>>167695218
fuck, you're right

i'll put these up on the document as I go instead of having them around in crumpled, tear-moistened notes so I can go back to them at any time

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>>167695330

>>167695110
>anime magical swordgirls
>big af blue/green/red hair
>shoulder armor usually connected to absolutely nothing
>slave leia bikinis w/ possible microskirts
I'd be lying if I said it wasn't my fetish
also the music sounds good bro, definitely get a good heroic feel from it
reminds me a bit of popful mail

>>167695330
The best features are often glitches, anon. Glad to see you posting progress!

>>167695516
>Popful Mail

Oooo boy, that's my jam. >>167695110, you're almost there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxkGQGGfI6A

>>167692339

This type of enemy physics would be perfect for VR.

>>167695262
>I've used Net Yaroze, and it's alright, you should consider it too.
Interesting to find another anon who's investigated this! I checked the NY user guide and it seems to spend half its time talking about things you can't do with NY that you can with the official tools.
>The data decompression engine is not part of the Net Yaroze system.
>Multi-tap ports cannot be used with the Net Yaroze system.
>the PlayStation link facility is not available in the Net Yaroze system.
>Note that a fourth type, movie data, while available in the Professional PlayStation Development System cannot be used in the Net Yaroze system.
I also see references that suggest you can't even use the CD drive, although I can't verify that.

What is the best way to learn Unity?

>>167695938
with your teeth

Should I bother with a color palette, or just use whatever fucking colors I want?

is weak typing as sloppy as it sounds?

>>167695891
Well, you make it sound really bad, but the official tools weren't a thing when I tried net yaroze. It has it's shortcomings, but it was easy enough for 17 y/o me to get started with console dev. I can confirm there's ways to use the CD drive, but they involve literal black magic

>>167696112
for a pixel art game? definitely bother with a palette.

>>167696278
Yes.

>>167695110
who's that anime

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This is the glass-breaking minigame of Squirrel Sphere. There are a bunch of dedicated maps for this mode

>>167695330
>breaking the sound barrier with a rock and your sheer strenght
>not cool as fuck

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Changed the doors.

I did exactly what an anon suggested a couple weeks ago, and as result the animation got a lot smoother.

>>167696436
cool, but its probably tone the door color to match the rest of the tile better

>>167696278
absolutely

>>167696112
I assume you're talking about pixel art. Working within the limitations of a palette is a great way to learn but might cause you to force color decisions or designs to match the chosen palette in a negative way. I personally prefer to limit myself in other ways, usually on a per sprite basis. You can remain internally consistent without forcing yourself to use colors that don't fit your art.

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>>167696420
It is, to the point I might leave it in.
The best part is that the same combination, upward attack and rock, made some interesting results before.
And the attack is not even finished yet.

fw nodev

>>167696313
>>167696583
thats what I was most afraid of in the node.js meme

>>167696694
use typescript then

how do i get started with unity?

>>167696738
but every non-typescript module will be sloppy to work with, and I suspect that means majority of them

>>167696894
tutorials nigga

if you're new to programming you should look up programming tutorials first, but if you aren't you should pick up unity-centric tutorials to learn the UI and other basic shit

>>167696894
With the tutorials just like anything else.

>>167696901
did you even look at what typescript is before posting this

java is C# covered in shit

>>167696994
is this ok?

https://unity3d.com/learn/tutorials/topics/scripting/coding-unity-absolute-beginner

i dont know how to program anything

>>167697007
a language built on top of javascript
where's the catch?

>>167697225
yeah actually

have fun learning and don't forget to just like make game anon

>>167696294
Oh, I didn't want to diss the efforts of Yaroze coders- I just mean that I don't think I'd choose it if I planned to make the kind of thing I described.

>>167696658
>>167696294

Okay, then what kind of palette should I use?

>>167697564
It depends entirely on what you're trying to make.

>>167697564
http://paletton.com/
Go nuts.
Or google palettes for snes or whatever if you're trying to nostalgiaboner.

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>>167696335
Dream Hunter Rem

Warning: Dreams can be bad places!

>>167695516
Thanks; I used an older Roland midi soundfont to give it that hip "retro" flavor. In scale of "easy on the eyes", few can beat the metal-bikini+shoulder pads combo!

>>167695815
popful is best. PC Engine version soundtrack is godly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljdmzwmwmZM

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>>167697564
but you need to have a goal in mind
what does the game feel like visually?
what's the mood you want from the art?
a palette lends cohesion to a game's art
now remember there's two types of "palette"
one is your overall color palette which is usually a hardware limitation
then there's your selected palette which is a personal choice
like, say you've got a ton of fucking colors in your overall palette
like 32,000 or whatever
but you want a dungeon or something to feel cold and dark
you're going to be using lots of blues in the palette for that part of the game

but since I get the feeling you're not reading any of this anymore
use this one to start if you have no idea what you're after
it's a generic 32-color palette
you can do basically anything in it with minimal effort
if you can't get something looking the way you want then just fudge in a couple extra colors
nobody's going to give half a shit if you use 34 colors because you wanted a couple of dark blues

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How does this look for the class inheritance system? In the end all you'd have to do to create a new longbow was calling for the Longbow constructor but just passing its name, description, ATK and weight. Everything else like where to equip, range, equipment type, etc, would come as default unless you override it

>>167695110
Sounds good except for the drums, I think they're too loud in the mix. The kick and cymbal samples are just bad, IMO.

>>167698429
>inheritance
Even if you're going to use inheritance, you don't want to make different classes just to set different values to your fields.

>>167698521
If, tomorrow, you learn you're to die in the next 48 hours how would you enjoy living with the fact that you've done nothing but shit on a thread for the last two years?

Imagine all the time you've wasted doing nothing but being a shitposter. Imagine all the games you could've made.

Where is your life? I don't see any signs of it here.

>>167697564
Either use a popular one, steal it, or make one yourself by doing mockups and figuring out what works best for the game.

>>167698429
>>167698560
when creating new types of weapons, just use different arguments for the constructor of class called Item
it should be 100% enough

>>167698921
Why?

>>167697228
typescript compiles to javascript. everything you write in TS has to become JS eventually, or browsers couldn't run it. there aren't non-typescript modules and typescript modules, it's all just javascript.

typescript exists so you can use its bonus features (classes and interfaces and etc.) and make sure your code is internally consistent. if you use types wrong, it fails to compile.

other people's JS modules are usually internally consistent, and a lot of them are written in typescript too. as long as you give them the data they expect, they'll usually handle it fine.

i realise i got pissy about this before because i am having a shitty day, and i am sorry for making that your problem.

>>167698435
Thanks for the feedback; I agree that the drums need some polish. Drum mixing is the hardest part of making a track, for me - I either make them too loud or too soft. Especially when using an old midi soundfont (the easiest drum mixing is with FM percussion in my Sega Genesis tracker, funnily enough).

Sometimes I think I get it right, or get it close. This track was for an arrange album for a Dreamcast indie game (currently on greenlight for steam, iirc):
https://soundcloud.com/ec2151/ghost-blade-arrange-ectoplasma

>>167699043
Because that's what constructor parameters are for? You don't make a new class just to change values.

>>167699125
Yeah, that's a lot better. I think if you made your drums a bit quieter and gel them into the mix a bit more, they'll work. And replace the kick with something that's less of a click, and use a cymbal with a longer tail.

>>167699057
To add to this, a lot of packages that use typescript have their typing available, so compiling will also check if you are using the external api correctly.

>>167698921
Item should not be instanceable. It makes no sense to create a new Item where it only has a Name, Description and Weight but no other information. In that scheme you can create a new weapon, consumable, equipment or whatever just calling the constructor to the item type. For instance, if I do something like this

>Longbow (string name, int ATK, int weight)
>Longbow newbow = new Longbow("Faggybow", 20, 50)

Then every other necessary information would be already passed to the object via inheritance, like

>Longbow's name: Faggybow
>ATK: 20
>Weight: 50
>ItemType: Equipment
>EquipmentType: Weapon
>WeaponType: Bow
>Range: 20
>aSPD: 6
>etc

>>167699043
Classes are not very versatile, why do it if you don't have to?

>>167695330
Speedrun strats

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finally getting around to implementing the new menus

So right now a lot of my game crunches a lot of calculations using sin and cos for animations every frame. Would it be possible to pass the numbers to a shader, let the gpu crunch it, and get it back? I feel like this would improve performance a lot.

>>167699815
>Tfw you will never do pixel art as good as this guy

>>167699815
that's some pretty pillowy pixel art there fella

>>167699815
totally getting oracle of ages/seasons vibes, my man.

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>>167687690
Trying out a chibi art style :)

Im not a very good 3d modeller but i think it turned out ok :)

Need to rig her up and animate her next :)

>>167699125
>I either make them too loud or too soft
it might be that the eq is wrong

>>167699831
sin and cos is irrelevant anon, it's just a lookup

>>167700079
Likely! I've been meaning to pour over this free set of tutorials on mastering/mixing for about a month now to brush up on my production knowledge.

https://pae.izotope.com/

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langdevs talk about your progress

I started reading about lexers and parsers and stuff and it's giving me good feelings

how does I into good character design? all of mine are either super generic or grossly trashy

>>167700034
>:) shitposter making shit
What a surprise.

>>167700096
The calculations take 3.8% of the steps, and that's just on the player but it adds up when enemies are around and in view.

>>167699634
It's better to use external data sources for field values, your code should be separated from the data.

>>167700331
leave the 3d models anon alone
his talent is low but his enthusiasm is onto the sun
one day he will be the best of us

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pretty little bullet trails.

>>167700275
These are really good tutorials
t. owner of an amateur music studio

>>167700323
Start by thinking what makes a character you consider great what it is.

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>>167700034
>>167700331
just for funsies ill post my failed human i had to scrap too :)

>>167700323
>generic
Never been a problem in games before. Basically all anime-styled game protagonists for the past decade have been the exact same lazy-but-randomly-hotblooded brown-haired teenager in jeans and a t-shirt, and people still buy that shit.
>trashy
Also never been a problem in games before.

Don't worry so much.

>>167699831
Depends. It still take time to set and retrieve data arrays from the gpu. Not worth it if it's only for a few hundreds calculations.

I found a musician to make a looped music for our small web/mobile game, and she's asking for how long it to be. How do I decide this? We have levels, I plan them to be 60 to 120 seconds long. Does this make a reference. If I tell her this, would she try to make the music 120seconds long? Or maybe I have to decide how many loops should the player hear at maximum?
We found a loop music, It's about 60 seconds. But it has a melody and that melody is played multiple times with variations.
She's seen the game and played a level so she's seen the art and gameplay. Shouldn't she be able to decide genre of the music? Which would go well with the game.
What bullet points should you tell a musician when asking for music?

>>167700935
true true. I appreciate the insight!

how learn digital painting?

>>167700950
It depends on wheter you'll have uninterrupted music during level transition or not, basically. Also, no, you still need to guide her on what you want.

>>167700594
At least, that's what I think.

>>167701219
shut up nerd

>>167700394
im not shitposting just curious, why all the smilies in discord?

>>167700323
Just make your main character a really cute girl, but put her in a really lewd outfit, then spend the rest of the game completely ignoring how utterly out of place it is for her to be wearing a thong bodysuit while fighting monsters. This strategy worked for like 80% of the games that came out of Japan in the 80s and 90s.

>>167700950
I usually tell my musicbro a genre, providing examples of similar music, a general length, and any specific instruments or other things the track needs.
Don't be afraid to tell them what they've made won't work, too. Ill-fitting music is worse than no music
As for how long/how many loops a track needs, it depends. A good musician can make a short track that doesn't get annoying after you've heard it 200 times, but in general the longer you're going to hear the the more variation the track needs. Nobody cares if the main menu theme is a 10 second loop because you're only spending 10 seconds there anyway.

>>167700394
>>167700331
>>167701410
this isnt me, i would never attack someone on an anonymous image board :P

and i just like emojis :)

>>167699831
Yes, with a compute shader, but a round trip to and from the GPU is a lot of latency. Though, since it's for animations, you may not even need to read back the data and instead simply pass it on to whatever other shader uses it.

>>167700950
As a composer who has worked on a few (sadly unreleased*) games, here is what I usually ask from a client:

-What type of music are you looking for?
-What style of game are you trying to make?
-What is your budget? (depending on the answer) Is it per-minute or per-track?
-How much music are you looking for?

Those are the main ones. Essentially you should be in close communication during the process as h/she makes WIPs and lets you listen to them. She only knows as much about what you want as what you will tell her, though if she knows enough about audio-design she will probably try to have some things her own way if you make a weird request (or ignore or explain away a bad request - I've had to do this at least once).

Depending on the style of game, if a level is only 1-2 minutes long, my guess is that having a melody-centric track would be a good way of getting sick of the music very quickly; I'd probably think of something more atmospheric or low-key (this tends to be the type of music you find in games where you do a lot of small repetitive tasks and adjustments, like puzzle games).

*though one looks like it'll make it this time!

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>spend all day making assets
>it looks like ass
>you don't even finish what you wanted to

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Is your game cute?

>>167700950
>>167701221
Each level is played seperately. It starts when game is launched, there are no transitions. It's that simple of a game. We are trying to make it without putting in any money. Just by profit share, if it makes any.

>Also, no, you still need to guide her on what you want.
How do I do it? I found a placeholder music, she heard it. I said, a faster music fit better to the game. It was electro techno kind of thing. She said so you want more electro. Well it doesn't mean I definetely want that. Because to me a generic techno music just fucks your head. Constant tiring repetitive.

Guess its a bit on the musicians side. If she has accurate vision or not.

>>167701790
I want it to be, but I don't understand the concept.

>>167699831
>>167701517
Also, look into SIMD, where you perform operations on 4 elements at a time in roughly the same time as it would normally take for one. You could also develop more approximate transcendentals using shorter Taylor series. And then you could implement them with SIMD, too!

>>167701909
You can have a long loop that plays for more than a level then. It's up to your musician to make it not-grating.

Also post your game, It'll be helpful in assessing if you should be clearer of if she lacks vision.

>>167701909
>We are trying to make it without putting in any money
lol. You won't get anybody worthwhile working on it, then.
>Just by profit share, if it makes any.
The last things you want to tell a freelancer is "it's not paid upfront, but it'll be great for your portfolio" and "you'll totally get paid once the game sells."

>>167701482
k.

>>167701698
>>you don't even finish what you wanted to

>>167701919
Big head + big eyes + round + soft = cute.

>>167700837
The body is nice but that face looks like she's excited for some potato knishes

>>167701437
it wont be offensive if I email her the music we have right now would it? To me I think she should be able to identify the technical parts of that music, the tempo etc.

>>167701532
It's a horizontal infinite shooter kind of thing.

>>167701943
If you're going to nick, at least do it properly and use the name field. This isn't e-mail. You don't need a signature on each of your posts, grandpa.

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>>167702541
This

>>167702561
>it wont be offensive if I email her the music we have right now would it?
no, that's pretty reasonable

>>167702156
post to show her or here?

>>167702189
In general you are right but there are actual people who want to build up a portfolio and get in the industry. In fact she contacted me first and did say that she want to build up a portfolio. It's about finding people who are on the same step on their career.

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Does this turret look good?
Is the animation too fast/too slow?
Does the mechanic itself seem fun?

no im not making a metal gear gamenot anymore

>>167696375
Looks really good anon!

This is massively improved from what I've seen before with the rough demo stuff. Keep up the good work.

>>167696375
looks unsatisfying.

>>167702189
>>167702156
>>167701563
>>167701532
>>167701437

Thanks for the answers. Also one more question.
On a profit share situation. On average what percentage is offered to the musician who will make the music and some sound effects?

>>167701790

It was, but then a bunch of crybabies on tumblr and twitter said I was infantilizing women for fetishists or something, so I kinda just gave up. It wasn't worth the daily bullshit. I haven't done much gamedev in a couple months.

Shit. After typing that out, I just now realized I got cyberbullied.

>>167703239
i will cyberbully you if you don't post your game

>>167702889
here m8

>>167700594
For sure, I'm just prototyping for now

>>167698429
how many types of weapons will there be that you have to do unnecessary deep levels of inhertiance?

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Animating cloth is harder than animating in general, which is already hard.

Pretty livid lads. Thought I was making some progress on some sprite art and zoomed out to find out it was shite.

I'm so bad at efficiently using the space. It's really hard for me to plan out what the finished image will look like in reference to the canvas. Should I try scribbling it out on paper first or something?

>>167703573
If space is your issue, drawing it out on paper can help. What you really want to do is make sure you draw a box first. Now, don't draw outside of it at all, and try to make your drawing fit within the box as best as possible.

>>167703573
>Should I try scribbling it out on paper first or something?
yes. Drawing silhouettes first is your best friend

>>167691028
The effect lasts a tad too long on the picture.

>>167702918
I'd keep it spraying bullets for a little longer after you're out of its view, so you can see all the potential damage you've dodged

>>167704291
Good point, will make it so it fires if you are in it's field of vision, but behind partial cover too.

>>167696375
Losing momentum on breaking things is like punishment

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So, yesterday y'all were telling me to only use four colors when making a sprite, but when I look up sprites I enjoy, they've got waaaaay more than that. Also, some of them are even taller than the 32x32 range y'all noted.

So what's the deal? Is it basically just a "hey, if you're good, you can use more colors, but if you're bad, just shut up and sit down" sorta thing?

>>167696375

>>167703084
>>167704427

these desu
it'd be much more satisfying if you actually burst through the window

>>167704504
>Is it basically just a "hey, if you're good, you can use more colors, but if you're bad, just shut up and sit down" sorta thing?
Yes.

>>167704504

Just do whatever the fuck you want man. There's no limit.

>>167704504
>Is it basically just a "hey, if you're good, you can use more colors, but if you're bad, just shut up and sit down" sorta thing?
That's literally every art rule. Rixels, mixels, too many colours, shading rules, etc. You're not going to be good enough to know how to use them right for a long time, so don't even think about it.

>>167702918
make it a different color, it blends a lot. I probably wouldn't recognize it as a turret until I saw it start shooting at me.

Also make the bullets bigger. Juice it up.

>>167704760
Do you mean making the tile under which the turret is hidden more visible, or the turret itself?

And yeah, i will juice it up.

How can you make progress if you're depressed? Anyone have any experience with antidepressants?

>>167704747
But I also don't want my stuff to look like a clusterfuck.

>>167704587
>>167704759
Yeah, but how do I get good at those things if I'm not allowed to do them until I get good?

I don't have to be making some Metal Slug level sprites here or nothing, I'd just like to get to the point of moderate competence.

so my game's main character is a girl
>trucker cap, ponytail out the back of it
>track jacket over tanktop
>90's hotpants/athletic shorts
>and high top sneakers
could this be waifu material?
I already know my game isn't going to be very good so I want an appealing main character to be its primary selling point

that still works, right?

>>167704974
the point is they're traps for beginners. If you're struggling to make simple sprites look good there's a temptation to use those methods which aren't the easy fixes they appear to be.
If you use them, consider if you're using it to hide incompetence in another area. If you are people will see through it in a second

>>167693098
Personally i don't like gungeon, it feels like it takes my least faviroute parts of the binding of issac and nuclear throne for me.

how would you make a fun webgame without any plugins only html5 canvas and js

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Help, how do I into shaders?

>>167705320
unity webgl

>>167705320
SDL + emscripten

>>167704906
From my experience: Don't stop but slow down. Do it at whatever pace is natural. Pushing yourself too much on it will burn you out, not doing it at all will let it stew and it'll be harder to return.

Attitude adjustments are also important. Think less
>I got so little done because I'm stupid and the worst
and more
>Despite being stupid and the worst I got some stuff done!
helped a bunch for me.

>>167704906
Just like making progress is exciting, making devs want to work more. But theres the hump where if you're not skilled enough, it takes too much effort to get too little progress, in that case instead of using progress as fuel I get off on learning/being amazed at how my code can do something like a "real" program can, like talking to a server or getting a colored triangle on screen

>>167703483
Adding details to a low resolution sprite is a bad idea to begin with baka.

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>>167705591
Maybe, but the dress not moving makes her look really static.

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>>167705101
Depends on if the art is good and/or if she's got a good personality. Personality is what counts most in choosing a waifu. Top tier waifus always carve out a specific personality niche. And those personalities need to work in both a cute and lewd context. I'll explain with a few random examples of different fictional girls.

>Waifu
Starfire
>Niche
She's an alien, and doesn't really understand Earth culture.
>Cute Context
She says words funny like, "Let us commence the gaming time!"
>Lewd Context
Maybe since she doesn't understand Earth culture, you could convince her of things like 'you should always greet people with a blowjob'.

>Waifu
Zarya
>Niche
Muscular bodytype and domineering attitude.
>Cute Context
Picking you up bridal-style, or not knowing her own strength in hugging you.
>Lewd Context
Annihilating you in bed. Or maybe secretly being a sub.

>Waifu
Yuki Nagato
>Niche
She's an otherworldly robot who doesn't show emotion.
>Cute Context
When she finally shows the slightest smile or blush at something you did or said, because even that is a massive step for her.
>Lewd Context
Fucking you while she does something else, like read a book.

All waifus fit into these categories. What she looks like is also important, but personality is the reason for the most popular waifus.

>>167704504
can you draw yet
I'm gonna guess no, otherwise you'd know how to make shit good to begin with

>>167706174
>waifu = girl
fuck off

>>167706174
haha oh my god
you're sad as fuck
do something else with your life

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Fuck my life.

>>167706297
that fat bulge lmao

>>167705202
>>167706204
Yeah, but how do I get good at those things if I'm not allowed to do them until I get good?

>>167705101
The main aspect of female character design is if their midriff is exposed or not

I want to learn to program games but starting at pong and working my up is mind numbingly boring. There has to be a better way. Please send help.

>>167706515
Pixel art =/= Drawing

>>167706585
Here's some help: Get over yourself. Everybody starts in a shitty place.

>>167703967
yeah, I actually thought the effect was looping and never gonna stop

>Bought a unity scripting asset I didn't want to make myself
No one will know.

>>167706214
The exact same thing applies to husbandos.

>Husbando
Garrus
>Niche
Hardboiled, sarcastic detective + alien birdman thing.
>Cute Context
He takes you on a date to go shoot some cans on the citadel. Jokes about making a weird half-breed baby.
>Sexy Context
Your human pheromones set him off and he can't get enough of you.

Same shit, different dick.

>>167706285
It took like two minutes to type out. I was just trying to help the anon. And I feel like that's a pretty easy psychological puzzle to parse out: it's the reason there's so much porn of some characters and so little of others. And that reason is that there's a MILLION attractive characters, but the ones that get the porn have distinct personalities. I think that's interesting from a psychological standpoint.

>>167706214
not him, but

waifus are marriage material,
"girls" are dropped within weeks or a couple of months

>>167706640
Fair enough.

>>167706791
I'm not posting here without a game, so can you please not be so accusatory? I was just asking a question. Not every post needs to be an update post. What're you, the gatekeeper of the thread?

>>167706826
>>167706970
waifu means wife you redditor faggots

>>167707127
Yes, and there are plenty of people who waifu the characters Starfire, Garrus, Zarya, and Yuki Nagato. They are all popular waifus, which is why I chose them as examples.

What's your fucking point?

>>167703483
>>167706119
You should really deepen your shadows for better contrast and more defined shapes. Right now the skintones are practically the same color.

>>167707076
>he says while posting without a game

>>167707219
they are not "waifus", you don't use the term "waifu" out of a possessive context like that

do you say "there are wives over there"? no you fucking don't. kill yourself

>>167707076
Where is YOUR game?

>>167707468
I'm not even who you're talking to, numbnuts. I'm just calling you out for being mentally handicapped.

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>>167704906
If it's just a fleeting emotion, try to deal with it. I mean, the source of the problem, don't run away. Face yourself and embrace the pain.

Or if you have clinical depression, go to a doctor, I'm sorry but in that case you probably can't help yourself. Sometimes just therapy will help, sometimes only pills will.

Whatever you do, don't just sit around and wait for it to go away. It won't.

>>167707127
Wow, your Japanese is pretty good, anon.

>>167690727
>not being a glorious NEETdev

>>167708079
shut up, faggot. why do you come to these threads?

what kind of a human being goes out of his way to make other people feel bad? Seriously you've been here for half the fucking thread just memeing.

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finished doing a full walk cycle but the looping frames are shit.

besides that what do you guys think?

>>167708726
nice links retard

>>167708457
looks like a robot
arm movement is swaped

>>167708457
>>167708868
yeah try walking like your animation and feel how weird it feels.

>>167708894
how did you even find that?
are you a furry?
are you the same guy just pretending?
you're slipping

>>167708894
What's your address?

>tfw your game is your life and identity
>tfw someone says something bad about it you want to die

>>167708726
Could you fuck off with that shit?

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>tfw you will never make a game and make Mexico pay for it.

But mostly just the you will never make a game part.

>>167709220
>>167709409
seems hard to believe that you would just stumble on this stuff or even find it by actively looking for things like it
so yeah, the possibilities are 1. you're a furry looking for porn on /trash/ like him or 2. you are him and you're having some "epic meme fun"

Can everyone please fucking kill yourselves?

Every post after this post should be video game related. If it isn't, your ass is getting banned.

>>167688419
a scented candle

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>>167709673
a candle...

>>167704906
>>167707592
>Whatever you do, don't just sit around and wait for it to go away. It won't.
I can vouch for this.