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FIRST FOR COMFY BOTTING

>>167643281
dude rend whirlwind is the hardest part of vanilla okay back off

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>TFW Lockbull
>Soloing all elite quests and getting a free mount

Heh....enjoy that 80g sink and slow leveling

Ths pvp ranks only refresh on saturday, right?

>>167643547
>tfw roguebull
>soloing elite ulda outside quest because stealth master race

>Rogue joins the dungeon
>Spams his AOE auto shit and expects to not pull aggro

>>167643909
Wednesday at like 7am est or so.

>>167643281
Hey one of my (You)s that I worked hard to acquire is in there.

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>>167643547
>He isn't botting and rolling in cash by level 30 anyway
Lmao buddy

>>167644026
Rogue has an aoe?

>tfw botbull
>get to do other shit while levelin
>robot isnt lazy like me and picks shit up and vendors it
>got bunch of money
>level 54
>still no ban

Why do all botposters never show pictures? Are bots just a meme? Is no one really running a bot and it's just another way to bump the thread?

>>167643281
>mfw i was the post that made ff go off in that thread to begin with
im too lazy to post my actual feel when so pretend i posted a pic

>leveling as unique specs instead of the cookie cutter bullshit
>tfw having fun and people constantly tell me I'm cool and uniqueven and start conversations about what it's like to level with these specs

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It is automation, and not chink slave labor, that is the way of the future.

>>167644432
Wait, do you think 'mfw' means 'my feel when'???

>>167644430
Because they're just shitposting to farm (You)'s, all they ever post is the blank screen of their botting program that you can find on Google. I really doubt anyone here actually bots, or very few people at least.

>>167644551
Pretty sure it's literally one guy that does all the botposting. It's kinda sad actually.

>>167644524
yes, why

im 99.9% sure i'm correct

>>167644430
>>167644551

Because that's asking for a ban dummy. I bet several of these frothing-at-the-mouth playcucks will waste hours tracking you down if you show anything but an exp bar or a char level.

>tfw botbull
>tfw i sick my 30 bots on 4chan to tell everyone about how great botting is
>tfw they think it is actually the same entity
>it isn't
>it's my 30 bots

>>167644708
>implying you would post a screenshot of where you currently are immediately after you took it
>implying you have to do anything but blank out names, guilds, and chatlogs
If you have any semblance of a brain you'd know how trivial it would be to post a screencap and not get caught. I'm going to assume I was right in that case and that you're just trying to get attention.

>>167644871
But why would someone lie on the internet anonymously, what could they possibly gain from it?

Botting isn't a meme. Shit's like $4.99 and you get your 60 without no lifing. Don't get banned for it either since the server's died and nobody really cares at this point.

<Salty Dogs>
Zeth'Kur Horde
Join us if you want to raid

>>167645041
leveling to 60 is much more fun than endgame though

>>167645159
2 man raids don't even exist in retail dude

>>167645183

Leveling is fun but endgame IMO is still a mile ahead. You can fuck around and do anything, even better with a bro. And I actually enjoy raiding and dungeons.

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what did he mean by this ??

>>167645159
You two should just join a normie guild at this point. Your initial reasoning was that EVERYONE in Salty Dogs is going to server hop to HellGround, so we should all roll on Zeth for some reason, but even if EVERY SINGLE prominent member of SD rolls on HellGround I doubt a single fucking person will roll on your server to join a dead guild. You don't even have a tabard still, let alone the based as fuck SD one, I think that pretty much sums up how serious your guild is. You're either too poor to spare 10g and design one (which would mean you're a low level), or you know your guild is ass and you don't want to invest in something so shit. Glaston is rolling in his grave, I'll wager.

Is it the same autist forcing this botmeme?

>>167645657
lol all the guilds are dead puppers have 3 online right now

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>>167645578

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>there will never be a good TBC server

>>167645834
I am pro at paint

>>167645765
>zeth guilds
kek

>>167645657
A lot of people will leave for Hellground from Elydogs. Zethdogs are staying vanilla only.

>>167645578
he is naked at the if bank

>F

>>167645981
Aside from the fact that you're completely wrong and haven't even spoken to anyone from the real SD, I'm going to have to break it to you right now that nobody gives half a shit if 2 people stay on Elysium or not.

>>167645836
>look at hellground recruitment threads
>all pol and slav guilds

Ya not falling for the polground meme

>gummycraft
>gummy shuts his servers down when he gets bored
>hosted in NA so if it ever gets semi popular blizzard will ram their cock into them

Enjoy vanilla for the next decade

>>167644430
But I posted a picture of my encounter with a GM last thread

>>167646129
Netherwing wwu
the PvP scene will be huge

>>167646126
>he wasn't informed that half of Elysium Salty Dogs is rolling hellground

>>167646652
>he wasn't informed that he has actual honest genuine legitimate non-ironic non-meme non-buzzword non-insult non-4chan I'm-not-trying-to-hurt-your-feelings seriously-I-mean-the-real-disorder autism
also
>ignoring the other more important issue

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>finish Westfall Stew quest
>can't turn it in

>>167644657
Not sure if bait or not but it's 'my face when'.

>>167647498
you're thinking of tfw (that face when) or more commonly used, mrw (my reaction when)

>>167645159
Alright you shitter, I'll /w someone when I get home. I kinda like my current guild so I'll probably leave Salty Dogs if you guys make me uncomfortable.

>>167644467
t. dagger rogue bull

>>167646652
Elysium salty dogs is dead m8

>hit 35
>completely lost interest
What do?

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>it's a gnome wipes the group episode
Oh wait that's every fucking episode

>>167647616
How can you be uncomfortable when you've got the whole guild to yourself?

>>167647673
send me your shit

>>167647554
Oh yeah sorry, my 4chanese is kinda rough these days

>>167647631
>dead
>log in at 11AM on a weekday
>28 people online
Nice try Zethcuck, but you'll always be the inferior impostor guild.

>>167647679
>it's a gnome wipes his diaper episode

>>167647762
Theres 11 on right now, not 28. Dont even play on zeth, just sayin ely SD lost half its active members over the past week

>>167647832
I was talking about 13 hours ago, before the servers went apeshit.

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>>167647803

How do we convince reddit to pay the server hosting for our realms? Anathema is getting canned in two weeks with Zeth'Kur following shortly.

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<Salty Keks> are keked again.

Nothin personell, kiddo.

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>mfw almost killing a druid 1 level above me while he ganked me at 0 mana and 50% HP

holy shit alliance are so bad lmao

>>167648823
>almost

Heh

>dindu warrior tries to gank me
>kill him
>dindu shaman 5 levels above tries to gank me
>kill him
>didnt even need to sacrifice my voidwalker

Why is horde so shit at pvp?

>>167649025
next time I'll be sure to keep pots on my so I can cast more than 1 ability every 25 seconds when alliance decide to chimp out on me

>>167649085
>next time

Heh

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>watching tv on second screen
>see some paladin nigger run up to my character
>blows every fucking cool down known to man
>18238 engineering cooldowns
>mfw 10 feet away from graveyard

>>167648656
Are they getting a server transfer at least?

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>>167647679
>>167647803

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>>167644551
>>167644871
I get it some of these bot posters are annoying but why do you care so much in the first place?

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>it's a shaman mob with lighting shield episode

Someone post munkle funkle and bunkle again.

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>>167647616
lmao nvm, why would I join a guild with only four people online

>>167649882
Told you.

>>167649838
does a single paid instance of VB allow you to bot multiple account

>>167649923
yes

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>>167649841
>it's a "wanding causes the lightning shield to react" episde

>>167649931
welp looks like i fucked up buying zukk

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>>167649841
>it's a level 9 mob that heals for 60% hp every other hit and your class has no means of stopping it so you have to drop the quest and grind on mobs or spend 10 minutes killing each quest mob season special

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>>167650017
>it's a mob spawns on you and your class can't deal with more than one mob at a time chapter

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>>167650017
>>167650135
Based /s4s/ posters

How long does it take to get rank 8 right now?

>rank 5 - wrists
>rank 7 - feet
>rank 6 - ??

>>167650382
as alliance on elysium? enter a few bgs and you'll have a little party thrown for you with cakes and balloons being freely given rank 8 in just a handful of matches

as horde? good fucking luck nigger

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>>167650547
>tfw alliance
I guess I'll go do some BGs

>>167650529
>rank 6 - ??
Access to the secret club.

How should I PvP as shaman vs wars and paladins?
Is the only option to kite them to death?
I always lose horribly in hit exchange, even with my totemps up and once the warrior hits harmstring (basically the first thing they do after charge or intercept) getting out of his range leaves me with 10% health if even I manage to do it.

With paladins it's even worth because when you break distance they just heal

Fuck this I'm going to make a pasta since this gets asked every other thread.

The spec: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#IyMbVRbkVo

Corruption > Drain Soul > Suppression > Fel Conc for your first points

Warlock leveling is centered around two concepts: maximizing efficiency and pet management.

Think of your health pool and mana pool as a combined reservoir of fuel. You won't need to stop until you're out of fuel, but there are many ways to burn fuel faster than necessary, which causes more downtime and slows you down. The biggest offenders for causing downtime are:
>taking damage
Causes your health bar to go down, depleting your fuel with no benefit
>casting Shadowbolt
High damage but horrible dmg/mana ratio, you use this when you need to kill a single target quick. Don't use Nightfall procs
>casting Siphon Life and Curse of Agony (SL and CoA) on targets that will die in less than 15ish seconds
Waste of mana to cast these spells if they won't deal enough damage to be worth the mana
>not using Drain Soul
Imp Drain Soul restores a large amount of mana for every kill you make, assuming you get the killing blow

The first thing you have to understand is that your Voidwalker won't hold aggro, even with 3/3 Imp. Voidwalker. The second thing is that it doesn't need to. The general flow of combat while leveling is as follows:

Send in Void on target#1 > SL > CoA > Corr > Immo > send Void on target#2 > SL > CoA > Corr > Immo > Drain Soul target#1. Rinse and repeat until you're out of fuel. If you don't have enough damage to kill a mob with your 3(4) dots and a few Void autos, try wanding or using Drain Life to weaken the mob.

To maximize Dark Pact's potential, take your Void's Torment off of autocast and manually cast it after your Void gets a tick of mana regen.

For gear, aim for +shadow/spell dmg and if that isn't available, aim for Stam/Spr gear. Int is only good for PvP while Spr will boost your Imp Drain Soul mana returns through the roof.

>>167651090
cast hex, move on with your life

>>167651272
>requires level 42
and I'm currently fighting for life in Desolace and STV awaits

>>167651375
He's fucking with you, there's is no Hex in vanilla.

>>167651264
>maximize efficiency
>pet management
You do realize you can't have both, right? Also you're all kinds of fucked. If you don't use a Felhunter as your pet once you get Dark Pact you're fucking retarded because it literally does as much white damage as you do with a wand, not to mention it has no mana-eating abilities during combat so it maintains MP5, not to mention it has fucking Spell Lock to hard-counter casters and healers and Paranoia to hard counter Feral/Rogues, not to mention it has fucking Devour Magic to keep you de-buffed, not to mention it has fucking amazing Resistances and decent armor so it can handle its own, not to mention it looks cool as fuck.

>>167651461
So there's no way unless I spek full elem some time in future?

>rend triggers nature grasp
hahaha i'm so done with this server

is it true that rend is complete shit and shouldn't be used, while leveling atleast?

>>167651375
>not 40
Come again when you have mail stormstrike and a proper weapon.

>>167652280
Pretty much yes with certain exclusions.

>>167652280
Yes, it is literally the worst ability
>15 damage over NINE seconds at rank 1

>>167652280
improved rend is basically only to get you deep wounds and impale
if its somehow not a waste of a debuff slot for a boss then of course its a bit of extra dps

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remove china

>>167652642
>doesn't hearth
>gets killed after the vid cuts off

not impressed with your perfomance

>>167652328
but I thought 20/21 and then 30/21 build would be more appropriate and have better utility with nature swiftness and heals and nature guidance

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>mfw my old WoW atlas from 2005 is helping me find npc around the world

>>167652708
no I jumped in the water and escaped haha

>>167642968
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Z2vpIxWZACKmCpw1B8vexKQ2vwjRqFRjcJhHjAxxJg/edit

Doesn't exist.

>>167652868
Of course you did..

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>>167652847
>using it to learn about old skills/ zone items and quests
>I know it is dragging out my leveling time
>It's just too damn comfy.

What is the point of the +10 resistances dwarves, gnomes, night elves, tauren, and UD have if +10 is absolutely negligible? Wouldn't it be better to have it be equal to their level?

>>167652901
You might want to check out the other links and discover that the OP has been vandalized.

>>167653050
Casual 60 resistance for free? Go fuck yourself.

i wanted to use the macro for increased performance but all it did was get my character naked and now I can't find my items. is there any fix to this or its just a visual bug ?

>>167644026
>its a warrior doesnt know sunder armor is his main threat ability episode

>>167653381
Visual Bug, download the Extended Interface Options add-on so you can see the invisible ticks you made on the options screen to get rid of the visuals of your selected gear.

>>167653381
>>167653420
Oh my god, didn't expect 4chan to be so helpful. Amazing.

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>Spot 2 hordies running from a mob.
>Kill off one of them.
>Go onto the next hordie.
>2 undead mages show up
>Kill the 2nd hordie.
>Then go after one of the mages.
>They end up killing me.
Horde truly are the nigger faction.

>>167653612
>kicking a man while he's down
>calling everyone else niggers
How very niggerish of you.

>>167653612
were all fucking retarded too im playing horde to play shaman and its awful

>>167653658
It was 1v2.
And then 1v4.

so what the fuck are talking about?

>>167653735
>so what the fuck are you talking about?*
fixed

>>167652765
Who told you that bullshit ?
Respecc right now.

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i've relogged 5 times, pls help

>>167653735
>Spot 2 hordies running from a mob.
>running from a mob

That implies they were nearly dead/oom anyway you nigger.

>>167654027
abandon quest then pick it up again

>>167654027
Abandon quest.
Pick it up again.
Turn it in.

how does VB work? is it just like runescape bots where it just hits chickens or cows or runs to varrock or does it automate questing itself? im guessing its just a grinding tool

>>167654068
They weren't.
The shaman healed back to full with at least half mana and the rogue turned back around to fight the mob.
I fought the shaman while the rogue fought the mob.

Then the 2 mages showed up after I killed the shaman and went on to fight the rogue. The mob was dead by then.

You're just assuming things.

>>167654226
grinding tool, there's no questing support for vanilla bots atm. Best you can do is make profiles that kill quest mobs and pick up the quests manually.

>>167654027
Hello, Dyadus.

>>167654458
shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>167654453
From what i've read on the Zzuk forums, they've been working on getting their bot to work with Questing.

>>167654523
Like anybody here gives a shit.

>>167654552
Added to KoS list for failing to remain Anonymous and avatarfagging on /elyg/

>>167654539
yeah i wouldn't hold your breath, seems like Zzuk hasn't been working on it much at all lately, although I've seen him in Crestfall discord (apparently he's helping with bot detection or something?)

If Elysium is so short on cash, why don't they offer paid services like name changes, character recustomization and realm transfers between elys and zeth? I wouldn't want to see faction or race changes though.

>>167651090
Enha loses against other melee, just the way it is.

>>167654665
The key to detecting bots is for servers to have a proper stats system in place.

If servers can scan every player to see how many quests they have completed, their played time, how long a play session usually lasts and how long they stayed in one single area.

Combine all of these and you can easily setup a automatic system that will flag players with unusual stats. GMs can then check flagged players.

>>167654413
So you killed a half mana Shaman 1v1, then a Rogue on a mob?

Sounds pretty niggerish, and you deserve what you got.

>>167654834
Offering these services aren't free either

>bot central in starting zones
>and i mean most recognizable entry level vanillabotter 1.0 with no precautions whatsoever

>need to make a forum account to report them with 'proof'

Bots win, because of the system. I'd report every bot if I could do it in-game, but fuck that.

OH SHIT!
Blizzard just called you and you are in charge of making official legacy servers. You have ultimate power and can choose how to implement it.

Will you just copy normal vanilla or will you make some changes? (Transmog? Dual spec? Class balance changes? Talent changes? New HD textures and animations for all zones and characters? Or even Draenei and other races? New professions?)

>>167655129
i get them to start from mop onwards and never do anything before

>>167655129
Completely optional graphics update and nothing else.

>>167654834
Because they're not.

>tfw arms has one extra stance specific spell
>can't optimize main bar keybinds to 100% efficiency
muh autism

>>167655129
Dual spec and some race/class combos like UD hunter. That's all.

How can I autoloot when I pickpocket? Do I need a macro or something?

>>167655129
Everything normal but draenei females allowed

I need my goat sluts

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>pass by winterspring
>see two people standing beside Qia
>buy the Runecloth bag pattern
>mfw

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>he isn't a mage

Lol

>>167655332
>Dual Spec

>>167655493
>>167655493
>he isn't a she
um...?

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>>167655493
tell me about it

>>167655493
>tfw qt ud fire mage

>BRD Emp Runs (Ironfoe Reserved) LF Tank

>60 Warrior

>>167655580
Why not?

>>167654945
Reading comprehension, son. Do you have it?

Rogue wasn't on a mob by the time I fought him, for the second or third time(?)

Either way, me fighting alongside a mob would only make it somewhat fair. I wasn't even surprised that two more Horde niggers jumped in.

All of you travel in packs just like niggers would.

Which I have to fight off by myself.

You have to develop some sort of tactics, you know but I wouldn't expect a horde nigger like you to understand.

>>167655720
>LF2M BRD tank & heal
>level 56 paladin

>>167654027
>huntard too dumb to abandon and retake the q

Whoa.....

>>167655802
>LF TANK IRONFOE RES
>56 rogue

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>Roll on Horde for EBIN pvp racials xdddd
>Lose WSG every time
You didn't fall for the Horde meme, did you?

what's a good leveling sub spec?

Do you need to have 1 rod for group to do mara princess run?

>>167655729
>implying you ever need more than 2 specs

Calling it free respec is more accurate, at which point why even have talent trees.

>>167656163
yes, otherwise it wouldn't be a princess run, only one person needs the rod though

>>167656163
yes it needs to be party leader and they need to be the last person through it

feelin a ree comin on

RREEEEEEEE

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FUCK YOU

REEEEEEEEEEE

ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I sure hope this doesnt fuck up my mara run group that ive spent 1 hour to assemble.

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it was an honor playing with you, my friends

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>unload on some faggot gnome
>he has like 3% hp left
>server shits the bed and I get disconnected

>elysium ran out of money
back to k2 i guess...

can anyone give me a quick rundown of why the chinks are ddosing the server

>no more VPNs
>no more chinks
>suddenly the servers ran out of money
really makes you think

>>167656772
>>167656829
> ran out of money

What?

>>167656829
>no more chinks

>literally all the chink guilds are still there

????

>>167656789
As always because they're literal human trash

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I DIED!!

ok I finally ree'd

>>167656789
Their own government banned them, therefore we dont deserve to play.

>>167656789
>chinks
It's the nost devs. They're salty and want revenge.

>>167656905
the devs and oldfags desperately ddos the server for them to come back

>>167655129
Fix a couple of bugs that were fixed later than vanilla. Maybe dual spec. Maybe.

Also make a second TBC legacy server.

What would be a good way to get some 'ok' gear back as a naked 25 rogue? Lost all equipped items including dungeon/quest rewards but still have backpack items and little money.

>>167656978
lol

>>167656978
You used that script didn't you, retard.

>>167656978
Are you that guy whose "ex girlfriend" deleted all your shit?

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>Buff me pls
><Blessing of Salvation>

>>167656978
>and a little money
cheap ah greens

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>>167656772
actually considering it,what is k2 populatin wise?
just remembered the chinks prob sold everything I had if I used the same password?

>>167656789
The gaming culture there is different. This isn't a comment or a joke or anything. It's perfectly normal for them to use everything they can inside and outside the game, account sharing, hacking, cheating, gold buying etc. They think if it's possible, it's fair.

Not saying that's why they're DDoSing, but that's why they're cancer in every gaming community.

>>167656978
that's some hard level roleplaying you've got here bruh
I'd suggest you pickpocket money and buy cheap clothes to replace them later with better and better items
build your way up from the bottom
also might as well right it like a book
"Arising from society bottom as a criminal element"

>>167656978
reroll

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>>167656065
>tfw consistently roll ud shitters with my warlock
>half the time the dumb niggers don't even pop wotf

>>167656978
>year is 2077
>still no "Bank-robbery" quests for rogues in the opposing nation capital cities
why is this allowed?
Imagine the possibilities

Is the acutionhouse Not working correctly? It doesnt Show the lowest bids on the First Page

>>167657078
Like, 20 people.

Not even kidding.

>>167657078
Normal,I'd say 1500 tops. Feels quite dead during NA hours though, doesn't help that Alliance are antisocial carebear pussies. Horde are bad too, tremendous assholes who regularly gank you and terrorize Redridge, one got so mad that he hopped off his 22 druid to camp me as his 40ish shaman. Alliance are the majority by the way so just goes to show pvp isn't a huge thing there. They're releasing NAxx and merging the servers this year so theres that to look forward to.

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>>167657107
how is this attack helping chinks?
if they can't play anymore they can't keep this up forever.

>>167657078
about 1.2k both servers

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>>167650135
>>167650135
>>167650135
Fucking Jaedenar is this to a god damn T
Worst fucking area ever
SO many mobs it's insane

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>>167656978
>he used the script

>LFM DPS JED/REND RUNS (caster pref) wand res

:^)

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>>167657337
good that we have option to fall back on if what I expect is about to happen,the chinks are going to tank the server if they can not play.
how many servers have the chinese killed now?
too scared to check if they got my old account now.

WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>167657554
Valk are going to kill their own servers, its obvious now with the Nost staff leaving and the begging. Funny that chinks are ddosing them now after directly colluding with them. Don't listen to anti-Kronos shills either, Nost refugees flocked there after it went down and they'll do it again. Its just pathetic how much they shit talk it despite how quickly they went there to get their WoW fix.

>>167657141
I forgot pickpocketing even shit like walking dead in brill is 1 silver average per body. Based.

Should I be training Heroic Strike as a level 16 warrior? I'd imagine i'll be weening off of that attack soon?

>>167657727
This is wrong fy some nost staff are still there
theyve just changed their names

The chinese are ddosing because 1000 accounts were band recently

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>>167657727
I am pretty OK with rolling a new Kronos server at this point,might even donate if they keep the chinks away.would have to be with dynamic respawns though as that was the highlight of this fucking new nost server for me.

>>167657078
fuck off dude dont post about my city were ashamed as it is

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>>167657078
>14k to paint a crosswalk

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>>167657827
lost 35 gold and all my engineering mats to skill up to 250...These god damn chinks have to go.

I want to get gangbanged by <GRIZZLY>

>>167657827
1000 accounts that bought gold though right? Not sold it?

>>167655363
You cant in Vanilla. Only with zzuks looter.

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50-59 horde bracket sucks so terribly at WSG, they stopped q'ing
Queue you fucking niggers, I need honor

>>167656096
> what's a good leveling sub spec?
The one with Blade Flurry.

>>167658291
both
its easy to trace gold

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>>167658420
59 pvp never happens and it is legit the best bracket.

go camp "jeenzor" alliance mage elysium pvp, i will pay u for each screen

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Convince me not to play a hunter.

>>167658703
>>167658780
sent :)

>>167658840
Do you plan to get to level 60? Then don't play hunter

It literally doesn't matter what spec you are for Warrior as you level.

People are so thirsty for tanks you just need a shield and they'll take you.

>>167658970
But its the quickest and easiest class to level?

>>167657948
There was more than one.

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>>167658840
fun getting to 60 but raiding or even most dungeons are just mind numbing shit tier boredom in any game ever.

>>167659128
Yes

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>>167659392
>$14k to paint multiple crosswalks

>>167655129
It would include wotlk and tbc content but everything would be scaled to lvl 60.
Greens from tbc - wotlk would be scaled to what vanilla greens are so raid gear would still be better than greens.
outland would be lvl 60 zones and assume the solo player has at least lvl 60 blues to do the content. wotlk content would be scaled for solo players in epics.
outland and wotlk 5 mans would serve as catch up dungeons and offer loot similar to diremaul or slightly better.
dual spec at max level for 1k gold. no flying. no keep balance like vanilla.
have blood elves and dreani. no deathknights. No heirlooms. no buying character levels.

>>167658840
Pet seemed really buggy as soon as I got to level 10 so I dropped it and rerolled another class.

What's the best spec for locks at 60?

7/21/23 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#Ix0bZfxmzMhoZvx0tM0z

or

SM/Ruin
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#IEMbhRroVZZgx0tM0z

The guide i'm using says the first one, but other sources saying SM/Ruin

>>167658840
You'll need to constantly be farming consumables, show up with all world buffs, execute every kiting strat perfectly, and luck out finding a guild if you ever want to raid in any current raids.

Too many hunters, not enough guilds. High competition.

Also you can only go MM spec once you're 60.

>>167658840
>>167660467
Also the epic bow quest is fucking cancer.

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why aren't you using the field of view fix?

combat for rogue leveling?

>>167660676
Bannable offense

> Shamans bitching about needing Nightfall to maybe roll as Enhance

Honestly, there are fuck all 2h's better in the game.....why wouldn't you want to use it?

>>167660795
That's what they say, but the reality is that the admins themselves are using it. Which is why they will never ban people for using it.

>>167660706
Yes

I cant bear leveling as arms anymore someone has a spec for leveling as Fury?
Im 52 and got good 2hand and dual wield weapons.

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>>167660676
>>167660869
>cheating

lmao you fucking virgins

>>167661063
Such a petty insult.

>>167649882
>he's never been in a raidlogging guild
lol cucker cuck detected

>>167661137
raidlogging killed wow

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>>167661063
>not being a virgin

>a group of 4+high lvl waiting for hogger
>ask for an invite since we can kill it without the high level
>no response
>get the tag with fireblast
>offer to invite the 4 other people
>get ebin RP about my race (gnome in elwynn)
>"die in hell"
>keep hogger sheeped until i get help
>the high lvl tries to reset it by pulling it to the river
>accidentally does too much damage and i finish hogger alone

Why does it feel so good cücking retards in this game. Especially your own faction.

>>167661137
>Zeth salty cucks
>raidlogging
>raiding ever

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>>167661167
>It's been over a month of Elysium and no one from here raided while normie raiding and pvp guilds already cleared everything and closing in on r13
>people waited 5 hours in queue daily for THIS for a whole week
>nostcucks pulled out when they learned slavcucks are going to do a Rebirth and get 80k$ in donations from fake server hosting numbers and shut down.
>some of the realms will probably be shut off and never explained why permanently

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>>167661345
t.tranny ally

>>167661431
but i've killed 8/10 bosses in MC :<

Should I do every instance, or just skip most of them?

>>167661801
Don't do every instance

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merge the fucking servers before I piss myself waiting for a BG to pop...fuck.

How are druids as healers for instances?

First time running one with a druid healer. No idea on their spec.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ElysiumProject/comments/5sjsab/suggestion_make_character_transfer_from_elysium/

cuc'kur getting desperate

>>167660570
At least they have class quests, unlike vanilla's unfinished class, Druid who have 3 class quests that end at the very high level of 16.

>>167660570
>do a demon
>get griefed by faggots
>finish one without any people trying to fuck shit up
>no loot

nice server

>>167662061
They have the most efficient heal per mana spell in the game, even a feral can acceptably heal during the 40 first levels even if he'll have to drink all the fucking time, after 40 with Innervate, if they know what they are doing you won't ever have a problem no matter their spec except if you lose the aggro and he doesn't have the 70% avoid interrupt on heal spells talent which he might if he's full feral 14/32/5.

>>167661801
do many of them, not all. and check up on where to pick up all the quests for each instance.

>>167660676
The narrow fov is one of the most annoying things in vanilla. The fix might be a bannable offense, so don't want to risk it.

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>join group advertising multiple BRD lava runs as a tank
>emperor drops 2h axe and HoJ first kill
>I need roll on both and win them
>paladin and hunter both collectively flip out and tell me I'm a noob for rolling on a 2h at lvl 60 and call me a ninja
>explain to them that while tanking I am also gearing up for arms pvp and that they didn't state any reserved gear beforehand
>they call me scum and a fag etc and leave
>I got both items I wanted AND I only had to run it once even though I really was willing to stay for a few extra times to help them
feels fucking amazing!!!!

>>167662635
Always good to see a fellow big dick Arcanite Reaper bro fucking over hunters and retardins
Wait until 1.6 when you get to cuck them out of the Nightfall spot. That's true joy along with getting priority on Sulfuras mats

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F R E S H
A L E X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyadmY0DOJM

So I wante to roll something here again (but from what I gather I can't recover my Nost Lock anymore), are my chances of getting into groups null and void playing a Rogue?

Where's the
>4chan_meme_Wojak_9.jpg
poster
I miss him

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>>167662635
you were kind enough to let a pally ret dps roll on your gear and they still bitched out?
you have the patience of a saint.

What kind of gear does a healer need for ubrs? I'm about halfway pre-bis but the mob waves part before Rend was kinda problematic last time mana-wise.

>>167663407
What kind of healer are you?

>>167663448
resto shammy

>>167662974
It largely depends on the instance you're running
In the 30s and 40s you'll be a very welcome sight in dungeons because you give little gear competition plus have great cc and single target dps for that lvl range. Lockpicking and distract are good for obvious reasons too
On the other side of the coin though you will be largely unneeded for the high level dungeons because you share quite a bit of prebis with hunters and dps warriors along with obviously all of the other rogues
Obviously you will be able to find groups but at high lvls you run into the problem of being one of the most played classes but at the same time not being as necessary as the other most played classes. All of this is mostly circumvented by being in an active guild though

Any other GRIZZLY members here?

>>167663134
nah they were healing of course
I typically just avoid playing with plate unless they're guildmates especially if there's any drops I need and even if I don't need anything I still try not to take warriors
All they do is break polymorph constantly and whirlwind at the start of every single pull

>>167664296
nah but I banged ur mom tho and she's a grizzly

>do quest in winterspring
>get 4 quest items in my inventory now
>go bac k to quest giver, he doesnt want the items
>read the quest
>turn in is in EPL
FUCK

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>>167664514
priest cloth healer
hunter for not needing melee weapons/shields
mage for sheep food/water

what is 4th best class to tank with?

>>167664296
ya what up kid

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>>167664683
>hunter for not needing melee weapons
Oh my sweet summer child

Blizzard sends their regards :^)

>>167664296
How long until grizzly faggots get mad and leave the server again

They're already kill on sight and getting cucked in BGs

>>167664683
Warlock
and desu I'd take a rogue at lower lvls over a hunter because they have such good dmg and utility
Hunters literally think they need every single weapon and most of the time they are wrong. They can use what the fuck ever quest greens until mid 40s then they can do uldaman and get Grimlok's spear which has a high drop date and will last them until 60
But what will really happen most of the time is they will need roll on your corpsemaker. They will need roll on your Gnomer axe. They will need roll on your "on hit do something" weapon

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>>167665221
>need roll on your corpsemaker

ree?

>edgemasters drop
>ON A FUCKING ANATHEMA PVP
God, why are you doing this to me?

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>>167665423

/// G L A S T O N ///

Hey Glason. Give GM to an active player so <Salty Dogs> Elysium doesn't die within the next month.

You're level 19 and haven't been online in a week. Only 3 of the top 30 highest ranking members are active, and we have about 10-15 people online on average now, down from 30 a month ago.

If you care whatseover about the guild then please, PLEASE give up leadership to someone who still plays.

/// G L A S T O N ///

trying to sign up to the site but I have tried 4 different email accounts and I get no email

is the site having issues?

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>>167664683
there is a reason for the term "hunter weapon" thrown around as a joke
pic heavily related

>>167665569

use gmail

OK fuck this I'm gonna give retail another go

I heard nighthold looks cool and 7.2 comes with a continuation of the order hall class quests and dynamic world invasions

>people keep buying up all the items i need and reposting them at a 500% increase
fucking stop

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>>167665621
>OK fuck this I'm gonna give retail another go
When will the shills stop these half-assed attempts?

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>when your group is about to explode

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>>167665690

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>>167662635
Gotta love ret paladins that don't realize their class is a joke wanting good 2hs

What's the best strategy for shaman to play as elem once I hit 60?
Respec to resto and farm 5mans, then respec to elems and play pvp?
Play as enh or elem pvp at once?
Try to find raiding guild as resto?

I sincerely have no idea how to analyze what items I may need and what I'll be able to get.

>>167665690
Are you on Elysium? Just wait 30 minutes and someone else will relist them at market price.

Monopolies are pretty much impossible right now with most items since there are so many players.

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>>167665882

>elemental shaman

Why would you ever go for this.


In vanilla it's simple, ENH for pvp, RES for raiding.

>>167665605
still not working :(

>>167665962
Enh needs to be quite overgeared with weapons I believe.
The question still remains, what's the best way to get minimal needed PvP items in this case?

>>167665925
what addon shows you the market price

>>167665771
Isnt even that good.
Ironfoe is much better...

This is fucking excruciating
This god damn bullshit would happen when I find a great group for ST
this is fucking pising me off so god damn fucking much
I just want to kill the prophet and get the fuck out of here
THESE FUCKING GOD DAMN CHINKS ARE SUCH FUCKING HORSESHIT

Second fucking day in a row with this shit.

>>167666058

Look up loot for leather/mail with atp/crit/hit.

Pretty much any 60 dungeon like DM/ubrs/lbrs/strat will have something to start you off with.
Make sure you get the slowest 2hander for the sikkkest wf crits.

http://www.lookingforloot.com/dungeons.php?e=wow_classic

>>167665882
Go resto for 5mans and raiding for gear.
Then just go ele down to elemental fury and the rest in resto for pvp.
Realize the utility you have and blow people up with hard damage and dish out great healing to the team/yourself. You'll be doing what a paladin wishes it could.
The way i play everytime. Enhance pvp is a meme for idiots who like to see a windfury crit every now and then. Other than that they are garbage compared to ele/resto sham.

is anyone still ingame?

> people have cleared all current raids
> sitting at the last boss of Uldaman with 3k latency

Yeah...this sucks

>>167666069
Thats an offhand you stupid faggot.

>>167665725
You really think blizzard wastes time on a private server general on 4chan?

I just heard good things about legion and will give it a go, the raids look good and I like how much content outside raiding their seems to be

>>167665962
>ele can consistently nuke people
>pvp as rng enh
No

>>167666289
>slowest 2hander
Tbqh I have corpsemaker, thermaplug and 1h RFK axe and the latter give the most enjoyable lvling experience, because if WF doesn't proc in the first 4-5 hits on a mob you end up with half mana and half health when you kill it. Shield + 1h is just plainly better. Am I doing it wrong?

>>167666525
Ironfoe is main hand not offhand you idoit lefty

KRONOS TIME LADS

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>>167666538
>You really think blizzard wastes time on a private server general on 4chan?
>I just heard good things about legion and will give it a go, the raids look good and I like how much content outside raiding their seems to be

>>167666607
Fucking idiot.

>>167665221
>tfw did all this up to the sword that dropped from LBRS in actual vanilla as a hunter

I'm not very proud of it

>>167666607
Please tell me you are pretending

>>167666636
I'm not baiting but whatever, just logged back into retail. Glad the system exists now where it tells you what you can/should do to progress when you log in

Makes it much easier to get back into the game when you've had time away

>>167666603
I mostly leveled with 1h/shield with flametongue, especially on mobs with higher def/armor and used 2h for clothies.
Its great if you want to save money on buying drink because all you have to do is keep searing totem and FS up and just auto. Also helps keep your mana pool for ganks/extra mobs.

>>167666698
>>167666767
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=11684
Literal retards

>>167666554

An elemental shaman is a half baked mage/lock with supportive abillities.
Good luck with getting that spelldamage, because its incredibly rare on mail, nevermind the leather.

I've mained a shaman on launch, and experimented with every tree.
But elemental is still inferior most of the time.

When people get close, you need to start putting down totems, meaning you have to distribute mana between offensive skills and keeping the battlefield in check.
This will destroy your pool in no time.
An enh without mana can still WF your opponents' health away.


On top of that, active orc/troll/tauren racials are all meant for being up close.

>>167666603

Not really, it's still completely luck based.
Leveling with a shield is more consistent, a little slower too.

>>167666983
>this is the quality of people /vg/ has to offer
And they ask why /vg/ can't raid.

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>>167666983
>zero reading comprehension
>still argues
How do people like you even function?

What's your worst group experience so far?

>>167667261
>"Hunter, can you trap this target please?"
mage starts aoeing
>"Warlock, can you fear this target please?"
mage starts aoeing
>"Mage, can you poly this target please?"
mage starts aoeing
>"Mage, can you give us a portal to IF please?"
mage ports himself to IF

>>167667129
>>167667245
Talk about reading comprehedsion? Your the one that said "its a offhand" in response to ironfoe being main subject.
U said ironfoe was an offhand.
And thats not even an offhand, IT SAYS 1 HAND. ANY HAND.

>>167667337
>mage starts pulling on his own and dies before no one can even react
>omg tank aggro??

>>167667581
but you use flurry axe as an offhand mainly

>>167667581
Please, please stop and get some basic common sense before coming back here.