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Previous Thread: >>167319703

>Latest Patch Notes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=832

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Cats)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Telsiai
Comfy (K**zenberg - Banned)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi/Pokart/Legio)
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I love FUCKING chronos
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>>167515395
I want a Sorcerer to use Riding on me!
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I want to ride Lolipan
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>>167515395

it's simple, chrono is retarded easy to play and requires almost no investment in comparison to everything else

the other 3 people (and melstis cuck is another case) literally decides who they want to climb so the chrono does not get a spot into the party by "merits", it's always someone who is close, friend or just has tits

unlike dps who if he does not has a proper build with enough gear he can't do shit

that's why people are salt. imo chrono's buffs should be based on their stats somehow but whatever man, I don't care about it.

just understand that you're not playing a sacrificial roel for your team, you're just playing a very easy to play character that require almost nothing because of how BROKEN they are.

I got my loloshit playing chrono as well, mdef glass bracelets, lots of defense on my grynas set, didel tower/audra switch 4 nuaeles and gg let the cucks carry me with their 100m investment
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>>167515395
>>167516109
I play a chrono and I get a free ride. I'm wanted in every party. My build is futureproof. I'm full con, so I never die. I cast a few buffs with short cooldown and long uptime, I can almost sleep on the job. I don't need any equipment and spend all my silver on cute hats. Why aren't YOU a chrono?
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>>167516493

that's a good question

everyone can be rich in one month by rolling a chrono and a dg clearer scout
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>>167516493
But I am. The difference is that I can actually solo the game if I want to.
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I want to try sorc but it's hard to mix fun classes and sorc at the same time

you need necro 1 to meme decay super temple shooter after the new buffs arrive

hard to fit kino 3 with it

hard to fit sage + warlock with and kino 3

need to give up pvp if you want link or cryo 3 to pull everything
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bump
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>>167521194
just let it die
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>tfw being confessed after opening a Portal and taking people to where they want to go
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what's the best item to buy from marketplace and convert to medals?
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>>167521452
>confessed AFTER having people enter your hole
Slut.
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>>167521672
She does it for the likes
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>>167521642
Hair accessories, if I'm not mistaken.
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>farming Venier recipe on both channels on thaum
>drops on ch2 from a mob I didn't swell
>decide to do a last lap on ch1 because why not
>pick related
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>>167522345
DELET
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>>167515126
Koraandme.jpg
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>>167522345
Venier is shit though
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>>167522636
>Fencer bis weapon excluding ET
>shit
Ok.
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>>167522831
Let me rephrase that

Fencer is shit though
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>>167522831
>100 atk
Have fun transcending that.
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>>167522923
>cutest outfit in the game
>shit
Ok.
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>>167522930
>Fencer
>trascending
lol
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>>167522923
>>167522930

I'm having fun doing 60k each swing without without wasting shards
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>>167523146
To two large targets? LOL
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>>167523295

you only need a vubbe for that
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>>167523295
>not having a Chrono AND a Fwee3 pocketsluts
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>>167523510
(You) forgot the Dragooncuck to give you spear lunge and serpentine debuffs.
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>>167523659
but dragoons are not cute.
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>>167523832
Yes they are.
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Is there any way yet to get this http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/644121/
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>>167524030
Fight the Centaurus bossfight in one of the quest, have a chrono revive it, get lucky with the drop

It only drops from the revived target
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>>167524386
Can you still abort the mission with the right timing to farm it or is it just "if the revive didn't work or the revived boss didn't drop the card make a new char"
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>>167524386
Wait is this misinfo or can you actually do this? It's just stupid enough for this game that it sounds legit.
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>>167524685
I don't know about multiple attemts of the quests, usually the monsters stop dropping things alltogether

>>167524810
I know this works because I've had a boss card drop past the update that removed them, after reviving that boss
Namely Riteris in Maveny abbey questline
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>>167522636
This probably works but the chances of it happening are so incredibly low.
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>>167525017
I'm gonna annoy a chrono until they test this with me.
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>>167525872
I'm not against if you are on klaip
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>>167525872
Have fun rushing a character to lv240 to just throw him away and make a new one when the revive fails
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>hey guys trust me I have no proof but this super low probability thing surely works, just tried this complicated procedure a 100 times ;)
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>>167526018
Nah we can just try with the gorgon at the farm level 90 ish or use the double centaur quest and abandon if it doesn't work for one of them.
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Is Dragoon fun ?
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>>167526210
It 100% works for other bosses, no reason why it shouldn't work for the centaur unless the card isn't in the game period.
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>>167524008
Cute! Cuuuuuuuute!
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>>167526210
Ah never thought about using that quest. If it works let me know so i can pay everything i have to get a chrono to reset them for 3 weeks straight
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Just came back to the game and I saw I have opened the letter giving the "Founder's server" items from release but I don't see token of 60 days and my 380 TP. I don't remember I have used them. I only have the hair accessory. Do I miss something somewhere ?
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>>167526649
Aren't card drops like 5% ish? Shouldn't really take that long.
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>>167527472
Yeah but 5% for the cards and 1-5% for the revive
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Gimme a skill simulator for Dragoon senpais ( and stats to increase would be awesome )
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>Futureproof is recruiting

Alright so we tested the guild invite delegation feature last night and invite privileges are working so now we don't have to rely on just me being on and can actually recruit during prime time!

Futureproof is the longest standing TOSG guild and is just relaxing. We'll basically take any TOSG even if you're new. We're not winning TP yet but we're close. If you just want friends from the thread to hang and chat with were a good choice. We also host weekly events and do most things as a guild. We k kw newer players are a big part of TOSG now and are very welcoming and inclusive of them.

Feel free to message Cats, but if away you can also now message Zhwan, Healmage, or Jennz
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>>167528993
retard
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>>167528924
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134449ff.23334554.153545.1f283f516571.153555.1a2a314455

31 CON, then pump everything into DEX.
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>>167529518
>31 CON
Why
That's barely noticeable
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>>167529762
You'll achieve 30k HP when using swashbuckling with this. I wouldn't put more than 31 points, otherwise you'll lose too much critical rate and most of your damage comes from critical hits.
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>>167528993
Can you tell me how delegation works?
Are there any mods that interfere with it?
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I wouldn't put any at all.
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>>167529518
Is gae bulg attribute really this bad or unreliable to not be worth getting 5 points into?
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>>167529518
>
Thanks mate.
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>>167530669
>Is gae bulg attribute really this bad
Yes.
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>>167515126
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i miss u ;_;
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>>167530669
Yes, the attribute is disgusting while it's debuff is awesome. Start your rotation with Gae Bulg > Spear Lunge > Serpentine and you'll see how awesome it is. Depending on your ping, you can also fit something before the debuff expires.
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>>167530120
Mods that affect the way guild displays
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>when you juste came back to the game from release and go to storage and see this
Feels good.
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>>167533974

>this
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>>167533974
Forgot pic
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>>167534149
So now my question is : what is the most efficient things to buy with 385 TP ? Tokens or companions ? Also, what is the difference between 'standard' hairstyle and premium ones ?
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>>167534981
premium hairstyles allow you to participate in weekly katyn erp orgies.
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>>167534981
You can only sell Enchant Scrolls or Tokens on the market if you mean that by "efficient" , enchant scrolls are probably more profitable.

Standard hairstyles are the ones you can choose when you create a character, Premium have to be bought with TP.
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>>167534981
Premium hairstyles can be put in the Storage, so any of your characters can use it. Same thing with lens.

I think Skill Reset Potions are the most efficient way to get silver with TP.
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>>167535406
>Skill Reset Potions are the most efficient way to get silver with TP

Nice disinfo, the skill reset potion is untradable.
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By efficient I meant what is the best for me as a begginer to buy
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>>167535819
1 token and thats it
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>>167535531
Oh, I didn't know. ;-; I thought people was getting a fuckton of money buying Skill Reset pots for 88 TP and selling for 4 Tokens silverwise.
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>>167535865
Alright.
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>>167536093
You could only sell the ones that cost 40 $ that come together with the stat reset.
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>>167535819
1 token, and then it's up to you. if you want silver you can sell another token / enchant scrolls. if you want cosmetics you can do that too.
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>>167528009
What happens if the person who took the quest disconnects? Does the instance auto terminate or can the remaining party member continue?

You could maybe do Chrono with quest already done+other player without quest done. Player w/o quest done dc's at boss fight, Chronomancer attempts to reincarnate boss. Other party member retriggers boss fight once reincarnate is up again, repeat until drop.
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>>167538415
>Does the instance auto terminate or can the remaining party member continue?

It terminates, i'm pretty sure.
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>>167538582
That's annoying, I'm not sure which quests you can abandon and then redo the boss fight before finishing the quest and which ones just throw you right back at the "you already beat the boss" point.
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how do I get past the 170-186 gap easily?
I'm 172 and have already done most of the zones up to near 187, spent all of my cards and explored most maps
I knew I should've just leeched bees
how fucked am I?
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>>167536497
>You could only sell the ones that cost 40 $ that come together with the stat reset.
False, the skill reset that came with the stat reset is also untradable.
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WTS> Hanaming petals

/tired
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>>167539687

what the fuck you're hunting

gem?
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>>167539687
Gem costs 500k on klaip lol
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>>167539994
>>167540070
7,310 later. I just got one.
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>>167540128

oh, nice. dpk is 10k some people hunting the black hair saved you some time, kek
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>>167538415
I have pretty bad internet so i had it crashing often in bossfights or at questing. If you have killed the boss and it was the last objective for the quest you can't refight it but in the quest where you had to fight more than one monster the whole counter would reset to 0 again if it dc while fighting. Bc of that the setup should be

The chrono player has the mission already done and is in a party with the other player
The player triggers the bossfight and lets the chrono revive one of the two bosses
If successfull kill it and hope for loot if not just go to the character selection and get to the point to trigger the quest again and repeat the process. To be safe i would logout> login the chrono too so he doesnt finish your quest
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How about attributes ? Do I have to buy every attributes I can ?
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>>167540695
Yes everything has to be at lv 100 otherwise your fps will be capped at 15
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>>167540695
If you're an Archer remember to buy Swift Step: Including Party Members, it helps your party a lot!
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>>167541416
This.
>>167540695
Also max out oblique shot for high damage also go full SPR.
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>>167540695

Priority: effect/utility attributes to your main skills. for example: swift step +% critical rate attribute on archer 2.

Heal: no damage (for when supporting in dungeons and you need to heal people)
Safety zone (extra blocks, bigger magic circle)
Psychic pressure: stun (to stun mobs).

blessing: increase damage (so all your party enjoy extra damage)

after that, you prioritize the %damage attributes on your main skills like, you're a ranger? you live spamming barrage so upgrading it to +20%, +20% will make a big impact on your dps and save resources/time, but no need to hardcore invest in time bomb arrow. Of course, the more you invest in one skill, more expensive it gets to upgrade it again so eventually when your barrage is like, lv 50, it could be better to spread your money a bit in other skills from your rotation like multishot (10% -> 30%) to get a better dps improvement instead of selling your panties to get +1% into barrage.

It would be easier to advice knowing the build you play
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LET ME IN
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should i buy silver from mmotank or just give it to imc
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>>167545354
Just stop being lazy and kill shit.
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Is enchant lightning the coolest looking buff in the game?
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>>167545449
i cant, i have no free time
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>>167546213
Then you should not be playing mmorpgs.
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>>167546213
Wrong genre, anon.
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>>167546414
>>167546486
you cant tell me what to do
i am going to use mmotank, thanks.
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I love you cute guild!
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Do I get green gems on swordman classes?
I dont think I can reach critcap without chronobuffs
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>>167548227
nah
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>>167548227

full dex, yellows on weapon. red on offhand but...

but your offhand...well... if you're a fencer, I recommend using green on your offhand till you get all the BiS crit gear to get at least 650 CR because, if you don't crit, you basically ain't a fencer 3

the other classes like, well, hop 3 has finestra 15 and access to 315 weapons +serpentine + memethrone
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>>167548209
aw, thanks anon! we love you too
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>>167550218
Who is that pink haired qt?
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Are there any good UI mods to get? I've seen youtube videos with cool buff icons and timers. Any good ui mods?
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Saigyouji!
The poor alchemist girl, she's actually doing great business. The lalamilk boom isn't abating, so there's no way your potion business isn't doing well you swindler woman.

Evergarden!
That Kumiko avataring wizard; makes big speeches about moving on with her life just to end up right back where she started the next day!

Runic!
Actually a strong headed and capable boy, but lets his guild walk all over him. Became a bunnyboy masochist for his guild with no chance of recovering!

Moesaki!
You ice cream headed Crimson turncoat, you're only known for stealing hearts!

Murbish!
Hides behind the guise of an evil murderer when really she's nice and caring, she'll become addicted to having her head pat and you don't even need to ask!

Paksiw!
You cutesy shut in NEET, you're so easy to take advantage of, somebody's going to take you home!

Koenig!
YOU STUPID MONK HURRY UP AND LEVEL ALREADY DON'T SLACK OFF JUST BECAUSE YOUR MONKOS ARE HUGE
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>>167550218
>That basic ass bitch with plebeian eyes

Cut her out.
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>>167550996
>no me again

fuck u
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>>167550996
kill yourself
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How bad is the drop rate on Portium? I got only 1 in my 3 runs
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>>167551780
It's abysmal
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>>167550967
P-please respond!

Also can i get advice on a good musketeer build to follow? Is archer 3 a good way to start? I hate weapon swapping to use skills
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>>167550996
>The lalamilk boom isn't abating
my cow died
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>>167551780
Literal luck senpai, there are people who can get 7 in one run and others getting nothing in 7 runs
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>>167552069
>lalamilk is now a hot commodity
Not helping your case
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>>167551950
Cooldown tracker, Map Fog Viewer, Monster Frames, Monster Tracker, MutekiAttitude, Rader, and Tooltip Helper are all essential IMO. Show Skill and Zoomy+ are comfy.
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>>167551846

at least I have all these ithaldin ores... t-thanks Kim
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>>167550218
>>167551032

Cut yourself out, rudester
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>>167552190
>Cooldown tracker
is there a certain place to go to download these?
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>>167552532
>https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager
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>>167528993
Do you accept from current guilds?
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>>167552594
Thank you, friend.
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>>167552532
Yes, on the addon manager.
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>>167552693
cute freed some slots recently if anyone is interested
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>>167528009
Ok a thought occurs, assuming you aren't meming about card drops get 1x Corsair 3 Shinobi and 1 Chrono with reincarnate. Chrono immediately uses reincarnate, disconnect if you get fail message. If it succeeds kill the boss within time, then chrono disconnects. Now you have reincarnated monster and Corsairnobi alone. Now you pillage it until you get a drop, using Shinobi stealth to break aggro and allow the boss to heal. If you get silver drop (not sure if possible?) just abandon and restart the process.
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>>167551780
They're about all the same. Keep in mind I've never had to use Ithildin ore, but I've made a Rhevisan necklace, a couple of Anti-dark property necklaces, and an Anti-cold property necklace.

Ithildin oddly seems to sell to NPC for 2k silver while all the others sell for basically nothing.
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looks like the Show Hidden Buffs addon will help everyone trying to collect the runes from the chrono master
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>>167554287
Gohei her!
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>>167515941
It can be arranged, for the right Talt.

Just toss it in the Futureproof vault.
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>>167527454
after an update ages ago a bunch of the cash shop items in peoples inventories got changed into random cash shop items / deleted, maybe it has something to do with that.
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>>167554370
I hardly even know her
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>>167550218
I will join you guys next week if you have room!
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>>167555663
She's a chrono, chronos are sluts, she doesn't mind.
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>>167555751
we do, looking forward to it

>>167556020
rude, im a chrono too
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is this game good for solo/pve experience? i usually have to tab a lot during work so i don't want to slow down a group
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>>167556358
its fine and quite enjoyable untill really late in the game

some classes are better to solo, pick wisely
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>>167546574
how did it go friend?

I'm just asking for a friend haha...
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>>167556504
what do you suggest? or is there some type of tier list for this game?
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>>167551032
didn't even notice her at first, that's how little of an impact she made on me.
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>>167553310
Do I just message Cats?
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>make a new leveling buddy
>go to do quest
>client_tos.exe has stopped working
WHY IS THIS STILL A THING
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>>167534981
Character slots are the most important if you haven't added any, and don't forget to have 5 free tp before buying things.
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Anyone got an leveling guide?
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While doing the Miko quest, when you successfully complete one part do you actually get something in your inventory? I was semi-afk praying at Orsha for a few hours and then when I checked again the altar just disappeared and I didn't have a new item in my inventory.
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where is that fucking seal
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>>167559613
No inventory items, no
But if the shrine disappeared you got it! Omedetoo
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>>167559849
It's just a description bug
Agny is working fine
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>>167554287
Now i really wonder if Gohei would either make her instantly find the rune or reset it
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>>167560924
Oh yay! Thank you anon.
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Any changes to melee classes in this game?

would you say there are more melee playstyles available now, and is it fun?
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>>167559849
Ice version of Agny when?
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>>167565251
I want the Dark version. Why does a Rank7 damage class do less than a Rank 2 damage class?
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>1 run of 240
>542k silvers
>1 full level
Why i didn't rolled a LinkThauma before?
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>>167566721
How long did it took you to clear it and are you full INT? I'm interested in making this build too.
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>>167567000
I have been pretty slow probably, little more than 20 minutes
Just get grynas+yellow gem+aspersion for 1 damage from everything up to lv 320
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>>167566721
Hey capyba, what ever happened to your sapper? I remember seeing you posting pics back around launch with her... I loved those pics
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>>167558795
Why character slots ?
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>>167569579
>Spend all your TP
>Get your main leveled
>Decide to try out some different types of builds
>Only 4 slots for free
>Realize your pets take up character slots
>A hunter-falconer who used the free pet voucher and got a TP pet has already used up all 4 slots by himself
It's only a matter of time until you need them, although you can just hold onto the TP until you do.
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>>167569350
p-pervert!
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=838
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Does the game or server Klap has a discord channel ?
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>>167570291
They are back!
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Finally got my orange item after more than 2 months of wageslave farming, feels great.
With more upgrades, 7k mdef isn't a dream!

I know there are rumors of a percentage-based defense revamp, but I'll enjoy things while they last.
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I am going all-dex sword and nothing will stop me
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>>167571874
Congrats! I can't even kill the mobs or i would have been right there too.
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>>167572339
Why someone should stop you?
STR is pointless for Swordman with how strong are r8 weapons with gems and trascendence, you need crit rate though so the stat to go for Swordman is DEX
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>>167571874
How much was the recipe?
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>>167572365
Thanks. Some people are rolling new chars to better farm the mats, so you can do that.

>>167572661
32m on the market, I really waited for that one instead of rolling the damn paper cubes.
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>>167571874
Where is all that MDEF coming from? Besides the Shield.
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>>167572742
Full Nuales, Pierene Sword, and Cryo1 has an attribute that gives me more mdef (and ice resist) = 125% of my shield's pdef.
Planning to take it all the way to stage 10.
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>>167572798
sounds like a future proof plan, especially with the changes they're making to defense scaling. Seriously good work and i hope you get to keep the whales off your back!
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>>167569350
It's Fwee3 now
I can support in ET just fine with it, probably will start solmiki with it at first while i gear up my DPS cucks
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r9 attributes are going to take like 2billion to max. How is one supposed to prepare for that?
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>three digit multi million gear
>muh 6 gorillion of mdefs
>300 matk
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>>167573421
>Still playing this kusoge by the time R9 inevitably fucks up everything
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>>167573637
He's on top of the cancer chart with his CC untill you die on your own build
The flashy gear only makes him a whale on top of that
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>>167573801
>He
it's a girl though
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>>167573801
>He's on top of the cancer chart with his CC untill you die on your own build
Yeah. All that for a build which basically relies on not playing. He could win every single game pretty much by just hiding in a corner and timeouting games.
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>>167573801
>playing ToS PvP trash minigame in first place
Good thing they added neutrality, PvP in this game is such a complete mess i am grateful is instanced in minigames modes only
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>>167574262
Watch 5* areas be open PVP without even being in a guild.
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How useful are Corsair 3 for DPK mat farming? I don't really have any good chars for farming atm and wanted to know if the Jolly Roger makes up for Corsair's overall lower damage.
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>>167566210
Because ranks defining how much damage a class should do is retarded.
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>>167571874
Did you farm it solo?
Which character did you use?

Also farming a emen shield, but my character really sucks for farming, so its going slow as hell + no thauma friend to swell. ;_;
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>>167575537
>swelling 500k HP mobs
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>>167575592
Do you know how links work in this game, newfag? Doesn't matter how much HP things have, as long they're linked everything will die.

I was able to solo swelled Yellow Caros using a fucking 5 hammer that anyone can get, so its not really hard do kill anything as ong they're linked.
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>>167575537
Solo with no swells, using FF2.
Decay brings down anything not immune to it, though I have to wait half a minute.
Linker/Kino to gather mobs, and it's easy, if a bit slow going.
DPS classes with links is probably much faster.
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>>167575773
How many hours to get a drop on average?
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>>167575856
2-3 hours, a bit less if I really focus.
But I usually just watch something else while doing it, and I try for 1 mat a day.

Here's my DPK records (bought the last two ornaments): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PdTsBEyo4A528VHJ2OzT4nLyljAmLDpablLUrdd9edk/edit?usp=sharing
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>>167575773
I see your strat, still a lot of commitment especially since it's slow.

Grats once again.
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What cards for a fencer 3? Just full Ellaganos or something else
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>>167576064
Thanks, it's really satisfying to have a long farm pay off.
I think the meta Pyro2Link2Thaum2 is the quickest way to go about it, with some gearing.
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What's an easy class to start with in this game?
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>>167577538
Pyro 3
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>>167577561
Thanks
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>>167577689
Buy Agny Necklace as soon as possible.
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Anyone have the new hunting grounds (free dungeons) drop list?
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>>167577891
only got this
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items?ulvlmin=120&ulvlmax=220&grade=3&order=cdated&f=1
they not yet in our files
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>>167577891
>>167578907
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ktos-general-thread-v2-0/321901/4716
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>>167579273
these neck and bracelets are from the new rng quests 260 + 300
not from
>the new hunting grounds drop
>>167577891
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>>167579273
That's not hunting grounds, that's hethran badges
The new hunting grounds update added level 220 purples
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>>167579392
>>167579406
Oops, yeah you're right.
Those accessories don't look that good anyway.
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>>167579518
>Those accessories don't look that good anyway.
Yep, forumniggas getting hyped about them already.
Only 1 more stat vs MaxPeta but -con. sucks

Bracelets are nice but not OP
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>>167578907
>>167579273
Many thx
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>>167576382
Bump?
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Hey guys! I'm off to farm some more skill gems. What do you think in a linker2 chrono3 skill tree benefits the most from a level?
I'm not sure how valuable 30 attack speed or 1 movement speed is.
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>>167582214
Joint penalty and HK gems sound good.

Haste gem could be useful but not worth its rarity. Quicken one only good for specific gimmicks like qs3 or limacon spam which aren't too common.

I guess ice wall or fireball gem if you're truly bored
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>>167582618
Cool. Thanks!
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>>167566721
542k? Are you swelling everything? Should be at least 600k.
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>>167574202
>>167573801

who are you talking about? how's the build?
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>>167584035
the

>FF aids nigga
build
>>
Someone sell me a +1 flesh cannon gem.
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Give me a PVP viable build that requires the least investment besides Chrono.
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How about you roll on EU and play with us?
Or i will kill this monk
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>>167586880
Why doesn't Europe like Asian MMORPGs?
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>>167586860
cryo 3 kino 3
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>>167586880
>spoiler
a very good reason for not rolling on EU
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>>167587187
He should just give up on /tosg/ and trying on the forum and reddit for new members, a tosg guild outside anything but Klaipeda can't work,it can't even work on Klaipeda anymore
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>>167586880
Why don't you guys reroll on klai and make bullies?
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I'm a Europe player but I play on Orsha because American friends.
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>>167587912
Because ping and different timezone not knowing anyone playing in the US
Better staying in Fedimian for me
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>>167586860
something,Cryo1,Thaum2,FF

stack mdef and give ppl FFaids
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>>167588149
>European
>Orsha
You are fucking doing everything wrong
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W1Pyro3L3Ench1 or W1Pyro2Lin2Thaum2Sage1? The next rank decides what I go and I'm not sure which to pick.
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>>167588564
W1P3L2Th2

Ench and Sage are shitty
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>>167588149
I'm european and I rolled on klai cause EU servers are always dead
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>>167588726
Sage is great for one shotting saalus/290 bosses.
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>>167588975
You dont need sage for doing that.
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>>167588886
But Fedimian is alive
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>>167587589
>2 full guilds
>doesn't work
What did he meme
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>>167589110
You don't, but it saves you 15 seconds every boss.
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>>167589174
Maube he memed about new guilds
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>>167589110
>no sage
cast 2 fireballs, wait 15 seconds, cast 2 fireballs then spawn the boss

>sage
cast 2 fireballs, micro dimension spawn the boss

If you only use this character for farming or 290rush/saalus then sage is a comfy choice.
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Sage C2 is gonna be the best! Just wait!!
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>>167587589
>every guild must be of 200 people
There's nothing wrong with small comfy guilds.
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>>167589745
No, that will be Warlock C3!

Why are mages r8 so fucking shit?
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>>167589830
>sage
>great with pyro which is now meta DPS
>missile hole

>enchanter
>enchant lightning is great for field farming on pyro thaums
>cutest outfit in the entire mage tree
>lewd buffies

uhmm rank 8 is pretty gr8, it just happens to be a support rank
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>>167589830
They'll still be shit. Rank 9 is Archer's turn to be OP! They're shit now
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>>167590679
Do you really want to go back to when only fletchers and elememes were competent builds?
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>>167590927
>only fletchers and elememes were competent builds?
This was never a thing.
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>>167591084
You must have not been around for rank 7.
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>>167591084
Then you're new.
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Hey! Me and my friend are starting playing for the first time since Open beta :3c

We were hoping maybe someone people would play with us? You'd have to make something from scratch I guess, were really hoping to power through dungeons brute force with a 5stack if that's even possible.

Also we wanted to join the /vg/ guild?

I'm Aoi Tsukawa, sitting channel one on the character start point Klaipeda side. Pls save me.
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>>167591225
>>167591304
>diev3 weren't as viable as they are now
>same for chronoes
>doppels somehow weren't doing any damage in r7 but are the best dps in r8, despite their best skills being r6
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>>167586860
retard
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>>167591679
>diev3 weren't as viable as they are now
Viable, yes. Wanted, yes. But they were a supportcuck Saintone whales excluded. Field bossing was also very prominent in r7, and PDs were shit due to debuff overwrite.

>chronos
They are always going to take a party slot just to get carried due to their buffs. They don't count.

>doppels
>somehow weren't doing any damage in r7 but are the best dps in r8, despite their best skills being r6
This is true even if you're trying to sound ironic. This game's mechanics are dumb.
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>>167591980
>This is true even if you're trying to sound ironic.
No it's not, doppels outdpssed anything but fletchers in r7.

Also competent build =/= dps only.
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>>167591980
>They are always going to take a party slot just to get carried due to their buffs.

>class performs desired function and contributes greatly to a party
>THEY'RE GETTING CARRIED
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>>167592201
>class performs desired function and contributes greatly to a party
>with 0 effort
You left the main part out.
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>>167592119
Elememes vastly outperformed doppels, even at bosses.
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>>167592452
That's completely wrong, even Krivis3Druids outdpsed elememes on bosses.
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>>167592512
Can I get the Zaibas Vs. FC pic?
I can't find it anywhere.
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Really want to play again but im dropping to single digit fps on Mission dungeons (i7 gtx960m).

How to fix this?
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If you had 8 party slots, what builds would you take?
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Where did all the cute ch3 fedi shops go?
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>>167593126
>gtx960m
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>>167593141
2 or 3 chronos for more pass

and to fuck these retarded chronohaters. nobody wants your babby 'dps'
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>>167593175
Orsha ch1
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>>167593229
I grinded to 280 on an hp notebook anon...
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>lightfriendlist installed
>works fine
>wake up this morning now it crashes with a runtime error
>uninstall
>still crashes
Uhhh

tostards??
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>>167593690
>friendlist crashes the game
That's the game fault, not the addon.
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>>167593676
>notebook
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>>167592259
As opposed to dps who walks up to a target and presses a couple of buttons? So much effort.
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>>167591980
The doppel madara meme was a meme before r8
It showed how doppels can outdps eles
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>>167591359
What server
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>>167594024
Klaipeda
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>>167591980
Diev has always been basically the best class in the game, people only didn't play them in R7 because the class concept is lame.
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>>167593973
Satania please go
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>>167594386
The class concept sounded like squire, in that it'd be good if you actually spent a lot of time in fields, in constant danger, and needed someone with skills like that to assist you. That it's really good in active battle is strange, but no one would probably ever play it if it weren't.

I really wish IMC could come up with situations to use every idea they had in the game.
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>>167593141
hell even 6 slots so you can fit in a fwee3 would make tons of builds viable for stuff like ET
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>>167593796
Yeah well, I haven't changed anything
Then I tried removing the addon, verifying
Tried with and without, still crashes
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>>167598364
slut
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>>167598364
delete this
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How do I ask my crush out this Valentine's day?
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>>167599927
Don't
They will turn you down
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One more week.
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>>167600330
Already a month gone?
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>>167600930
time flies
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>>167599927
Let go
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>>167604434
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Is this the greatest image from itos?
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god damn it, this is why we can't have nice things
>healmage comes to town hangout
>said her greeting
>right away some faggot always get butt hurt about her cuteness or jelly of her have the courage to be that cute and start bullying her till she cries
and you faggots always complain about things being ded when you are the same faggots that shoots down anyone trying to get rid of the ded air
>>
Is this game fun? Does its community feel lively and fun like RO's did, with people sitting around and chatting, running from MVPs, getting involved in guild rivalries because of WOEs and such?
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>>167606505
Its community is the same as an RO private server.
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>>167606505
>Is this game fun?
No
>Does its community feel lively and fun like RO's did,
No
>running from MVPs
lmao no
>getting involved in guild rivalries
No
>WOEs and such?
Such a thing doesn't even exist in ToS and never will

ToS has literally nothing to do with RO
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>>167606503
KILL KILL YOURSELF SENPAI >O<
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>>167606503
shut up
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What else can move people besides ice wall?
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>>167606712
>>167606817
I guess I won't play this then. Thanks for the answers, anons.
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>>167607064
>being this edgy
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>>167607217
OPEN SESAME PANDEMONIUM

I SHALL FILL HELL WITH TRUE HELL
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>>167607097
How about you try play for few hours and see for yourself instead of listening to anon memes?
They aren't that much wrong though
>>
RO nostalgiafags are truly the worst.
>>
>>167606503

hey, why the redhead is being mean to the brunette?
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>>167606505
>>167607097

>Is this game fun?
Subjective.

>Does its community feel lively and fun?
Depends on what you feel like a community. If you meant this general, sure. Mostly the community everyone else belong to is their guild and that's subjective too.

>with people sitting around and chatting
Not a lot of sitting around and chatting

>running from MVPs
We run into them, not from them.

>getting involved in guild rivalries because of WOEs and such?

Because of reasons the most rivalry you see between guilds in this game is the shitposting and falseflagging.
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>There's a function to delegate invite privileges to Healmage.
>Still no function to remove chat privileges from Healmage.
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>>167608709
>healmage helps me farm for good early game armor set
>gives me advice on how to build character
what's the problam?
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>>167608939
weebs who browse 4chan but get triggered by weebspeak
nothing new
>>
KYSMM KYSMM ANON SENPAI >O<
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>>167610098

>that guy who thinks that kysmm is some sort os kissing
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Hey! Two pretty new totally grill for real players here on Klaipeda, We're hoping to get some people to help us level and probably join a guild!

Pls message Aoi Tsukawa.

We erp
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>>167610930
Is this a new pasta?
>>
>>167610930
Do you do FFM?
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>>167610930
sluts
>>
>>167611046
>>167611130
>>167611159

This is not pasta
>>
D-does it actually exist
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>>167611229
Whisper LogosVeritas
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>>167611229
Sad.
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>>167610930
>Wanting people to crawl to you for an invite

Thats not how this works
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>>167611296
Yeah, I have one of those
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>>167612340
>Crawl to me
>I literally beg on the thread

I am crawling to you people.
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>>167612512
that is not how it works
tosg guilds are written in the OP with their leaders
just whisper the guilds you are interested in and wait for a free spot
thread begging is pretty much just attention whoring
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>>167610930
Whisper Healmage
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>>167612340
I thought that was how it worked for FP :^)
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>>167611296
I got several of those
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>>167593126
Add-on fpssavior.
Add-on manager.
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>>167600330
Didn't know Katz knows how to photoshop.
Why did you cheat that much.
Look at the bright side though. You will have fun with the game again since you had a month break.
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>>167593126

Use Warmode. Is way better than FPS Savior. I think he's not in Github because it's apparentally a stoled code, but whatever, it works!

https://github.com/yuktiwat/Tree-of-Savior-Addons
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>>167615230
>I think it's not in the Addon Manager* [...]

fixed. :p
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>>167615230
Thanks anon. I really wanna get back into the game but shit like this puts me off. Market economy doesn't look to lively right now too
>>
>>167615230
I wouldn't say that it's better than warmode, because they do very different things and both of them can help immensely in different circumstances.
I think warmode was originally called fpsincreaser or something like that and this person nicked it from there. I've been working on it on and off myself and I plan on releasing my fork soon.
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>>167615103

I only know basic stuff. Drawfag guild member drew that to mock my depression.

I have a gambling addiction and hey, free rerolls.

Also I've been playing on another account all these while, made a new character from scratch and farmed 2 phadas, a dehvlin gauntlet and a shade greaves in the making for my doppel in my main.
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>>167610930
We take erp very serious around here
*slaps ur azz*
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>>167620196
>I have a gambling addiction and hey, free rerolls.

I wish you were my GM, we would get along.
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>>167621271
OwO whats this?
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>>167621435
I want to lick your feet.
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>>167621435
I want to lick your clit.
>>
>>167621435
I want to lick your penis.
>>
What is the best level range to use x8 tomes? I leveled 5 character to 317 just by questing at every map, and I'm tired of it. I want the fast route now.
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>>167622179
we're erping here, fuck off.
>>
>>167622179
Depends on how many you have
I like to use it starting from lvl 100 in combination with instance reset vouchers to speedburst through 100 - 180
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>>167621797
this is the last time you'll see them because i'm going Dievdirbys>miko>PD
>>167621897
>>167622158
U-ummm
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>>167622514
Forgot the cute pic of me hiding behind my friend.
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>>167622594
Hey are you two coming to the meet up tonight? You can choose a guild there.

It's an hour before maintenance at the Entrance of Kateen Forest, just one map north of Tenet Garden.
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>Someone on the other team uses Physical Link

Thanks for the free win.
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>>167622861
you welcome
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>>167622668
We're focused on leveling right now desu, I was also already invited to Futureproof. We'll be there next week promise.
>>
Ugh, I'm getting that awful tbl bug again where after one match, the game just seems to ignore that you're queued.

Re-clicking the search button doesn't do anything. Logging out usually doesn't work. The only real solution I have is to restart the client.
>>
>>167611229
>>167621435
>>167622594
I guarantee this is Narue and his orbiter MeteorD. Stay the fuck away.
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>>167623019
Nah the invite was only for this week. Fuck off.

>Futureproof

Double fuck off.
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>>167623231
Elaborate
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>>167623231
Its actually Mia and Agapi
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>>167623594
No.
>>
I am the cleric's friend. I am a drawfag and writefag in another thread. We want to do some end game content and were hoping to meet some people who could help us get there.

I'm the person who's been asking for build advice for chrono.
>>
>>167623594
Who?
>>
>>167623857
>Tera or F14 erp fags
fuck off
go back to your shitgame
>>
>>167623857
Go back to your shitty general, we're full and we don't need more attention starved faggots
>>
>>167623964
I have not played either of those games.
I'm here because I loved Ragnarok Online.
Can we get less abuse please? I'd like to be friendly.
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>>167622668
Thread is a shitfest, especially when someone tries to avatarfag.
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>>167622861
>use link teleport trick
>we land on the enemy magnetic force
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>>167624094

How come guild leaders get to avatarfag
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>>167624326
isnt that just mostly cats?
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I've always wondered, but why is Wugushi relatively unpopular when theoretically Wugushi deals the most long term DPM at the current limits of gear (once attribute fixes arrive)? Poisons deal applied damage for the whole duration so glass mole'd poisons would be doing nearly 30k damage per tick with attribute fixes given a stage 9 purple 315 bow, and at the moment they deal around 18k damage per tick! That's 120k and 72k damage per second, respectively! I'd assume an orange bow at stage 10 would boost the damage output by about 2-3k per tick, still without attribute fixes! Before I quit, I was able to deal 4.8m single target DPM from poisons alone! Once Wugushi fixes come, that would increase by about 2m DPM, and the buffs to Jincan Gu and Throw Gu Pot will add around another 1m DPM. (Also a little known fact is that poison attributes work correctly with Throw Gu Pot already). So nearly 8m single target DPM from poisons alone soon with a Stage 9 315 purple bow at +5!

I encourage anybody seriously considering a PvE or PvP DPS archer to look into Wugushi, specifically Wugushi C3! Upcoming updates will make Wugushi poisons into rank 2 debuffs, and even at the moment, I'd argue that Wugushi Scout's are better than any other class at guerrilla warfare in large scale PvP environments, and are without a doubt the most deadly when dealing with multiple enemies alone. I also believe that Appraiser would complement Wugushi very well in both PvP and PvE. If there is any archer class that is future proof given the current itemization, it's Wugushi since transcendance heavily favors multihit classes. Wugushi C3 has 100% uptime on 2 of its poisons and the buffs coming our way soon will make Gu Pot into 45% uptime instead of the current 15% uptime! Also, STR buffs are on the way so think about that too!

Wugushi is great when it comes to AoE, single target, and just about everything else. Please consider Wugushi, we need more Wugushis!!
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>>167624061
This game is not Ragnarok at all.
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>>167624514
>once attribute fixes arrive
stopped reading there
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>>167624514
>Upcoming updates will make Wugushi poisons into rank 2 debuffs

You fucking wish.
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>>167624514
Miko exists and makes all archer dps bad because of how strong it makes physical DPS
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>>167624623
But it's true!
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>>167624740
It is not!
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>>167624704
>makes a physical DPS class bad because of how strong it makes physical DPS
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>>167624773
It is! I know my class!

http://pastebin.com/ZBMnsuYu

Wugushi:
* General Changes:
"A majority of the Wugushi's damage comes from the debuffs it can apply, although there is a problem with them at the moment where in their current place - poisons debuff ranking is quite low and can be negated with too much ease. Debuffs applied by Circle 2/3 Wugushi's abilities will now be considered level 2 debuffs. "

The debuff level of the skills is changed to the following:
- Circle 1 Skills: Debuff Lv.1
- Circle 2,3 Skills: Debuff Lv.2
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>>167624847
>Archer
>Physical DPS
It's like you've never played the class. Everything of archer is missile damage, which is different from Physical Damage. The only Physical damage archer has comes from rogue and hakka.
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>>167624941
Don't gupot and Jincan already go through proph? I thought it was already like that.
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>>167624983
>missile isn't physical
Yeah of course, I forgot it was affected by magic defense instead.
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>>167625097
Wow, I wish! At the moment, they do not.
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>>167625167
But you don't play this game anymore!
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>>167624983
>Sapper
>Hunter
>Falconer
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>>167625107
My bad anon, Melee damage. Either way Archer DPS is bad now because miko exists. My point still stands.
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>>167624061
>I'm here because I loved Ragnarok Online.

Fucking told you this Narue and MeteorD.
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>>167625482
WHO ARE THEY GIVE ME DETAILS
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Instead of complaining about avatarfags, avatarfag yourself!
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>>167625643
what happened to your dumb guild?
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>>167625643
Nah, not today.
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>>167625563
Narue is a failed trap camewhore from /rog/ who always plays with his flip (or BR, can't remember) orbiter buttbuddy named MeteorD. They inject themselves into /vg/ guilds and try to gather a bunch of orbiters and create drama. Narue always played the most useless dagger rogue builds and MeteorD was his stormgust slave.
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>>167624612
Attribute fixes came to kToS 2 months ago, we will get them soon!

>>167625279
Yeah I know, I wanted that Wugushi post to be my last post before I leave the thread forever. Wugushi is a super fun and powerful class, but it is severely underplayed. Without me playing, Klaipeda doesn't have any geared Wugushi C3 mains even though it has so many strengths!
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>>167624514
What's the best Wugushi build? Is QS3Wugu3 legit? Is Wugufwee viable? Khasti, Light Gorithos or Maga Bow until the endgame?
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>>167625861
QS3 and fwee are so standalone that anything works with them, even if they lack any particular synergy.
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>>167625694
My guild is the best guild ever because its only us two
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>>167625861
Wugushi Falconer is nice for Mergen compatibility.

QS3 Wugu3 is also a great build, but you don't want to let yourself get tied down to the DGC because poison damage from a good bow will outdo your Running Shot damage, and if it doesn't right now then it definitely will once we get the attribute fixes!
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>>167625763
Thank you, I'll keep that in mind!
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>SERVER CAPACITY BULLSHIT AGAIN BEFORE MAINTENANCE

LIKE..............................
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>>167625763
>they joined FP
So is it going to be an orbiter war between Narue and Healmage? HIHI SENPAI >O< has a head start.
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>>167626107
Thanks for the answer. Is it possible to poison a large group of mobs by using Aiming > Zhendu > Multishot? I was thinking about future builds for when R9 comes and Wugu3Fwee3 is on my mind.
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>>167626329
my vote is on HI HI SENPAI >O<
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Why aren't we talking about the patch notes?

oh
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>>167626383
I am not sure, but even if that were possible the damage from Zhendu is negligible. If you are going Wugu3 you shouldn't put any points into it and instead put points in Jincan Gu in anticipation for the rework that is coming for it:

â–ºJincan Gu:
â—‹ The following pests will change. You will gain access to enemies, self destruction and poisonous damage to a certain extent. The pests will survive for 3 seconds and then disappear after that duration.
â—‹ When attacking you'll get a 10% chance to spawn a pest.
â—‹ The amount of pests generated will be changed to 1 per skill level, if you hit the max amount of pest spawns due to the 10% chance, new insects will not spawn at that time.
â—‹ The value of debuff damage that Jincan Gu can output will now also increase by the skill level of this ability.

From videos I have seen, the bugs explode for around 3k damage (though I am unsure of what the skill point investments were). If you use Arrow Sprinkle on a boss that has the Jincan Gu debuff on, at level 5 Jincan Gu you have a 50% chance per hit of Arrow Sprinkle to spawn a bug that explodes for 3k damage! That combo will be deadly! I do not know if Jincan Gu's bugs will scale off of physical attack or not, since they do not at the moment, but hopefully they will!
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>Gohei won't release a hooked ally
>It WILL release a hooked enemy

Explain this.
Explain this now.
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>>167525017
Wouldn't the mission instance automatically terminate before you can kill the revived boss because the quest objective was completed?
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>>167627060
Nobody can win against the hook
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>>167627060
Mikos find one thing they cant rewrite reality on and are already throwing a fit
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>>167626329
Thank you nu-FP for containing all the cancer and taking one for the real guilds!
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>>167626329
>they joined FP
Is this true?
Recruiting randoms from the shout wasn't enough already?
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Anyone know if Hunter's pet ignores fireballs? Can sage's Blink bait him?
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>>167626752
>Jincan Gu
Neato. It's already a cool skill and with those changes, it'll surely be better.

Last questions: what's the best card to use with Gu Pot? Would you say these are the best build options for a PVE Wugushi?

>Xbow Wugu
Archer2QS3Wugu3
>Bow Wugu
Archer3Wugu3Scout1Mergen
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>>167627849
The best card is Canceril because it has the fastest hits for spreading Wugong Gu! For PvP the best card is Reaverpede.

I don't know how I feel about the first build there. Sure Wugu3 and QS3 are good damage over time, but they lack burst! I believe that having a R8 class is more than important, it's crucial! So, I would drop Archer 2 in that build and just use a bow. You could go full STR and capitalize on the high physical attack from STR and a bow for both running shot and your poisons. You won't have DGC, but like I said before, the damage you get on your poisons from having a bow over a crossbow should make up for it!

The second build is solid, but it's really a PvP build.
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>>167627601
>Hey miko, get all that crap off of this faggot I'm holding
>Aaaaaaaaaand off he goes
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>>167629354
Ok, thanks a lot! I really like the Wugushi concept, so I'll definitely give a thought about it when I buy more character slots.

Either way I should go full STR if I choose Wugu3, right? I picked Scout1 because I don't have a free slot for a Falcon and Cloaking will be important to cast Multishot 15 without being interrupted. What would you suggest instead if PvE is my thing?
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Who is the biggest attentionwhore of /tosg/?
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>>167630218
You!
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>>167630218
Cats or Lolipan probably.
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>>167630218
everyone from futureproof.
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>>167630370
how'd you know
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>>167631349
I want to impregnate that womb.
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>>167629354
Did you ever try Mothstem card or any of those weirdly rare ones like Carapace, Honeypin, etc? Was always curious about them.
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>>167538986
>>167536497
It is tradable.

I would show you, but I traded it.
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>Pyro 1


Yes, Pyro 1. Fire ball 5, ok, that's it. but what about the rest?

FG 5? does not seen a very good investment, I could keep it at lv 3/4 and get FW 5 as well, even if it's shit. Enchant fire lv 1 for some gimmicks and easier leveling early on? what about flare? Lv 1 works for that cool finger taunt?
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>>167632556
All shit.
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>>167632556
wall needs to be 15 or its shit
flare is shit

just get ball and ground + whatever
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>>167633145
Wall is actually pretty good at 14
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What's the earliest I can go to truffles? I don't mind soloing if I can't make it into parties. I've never liked the hump before the 186 reset. Agny Pyro is class if that matters.
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Anyone around 165-170ish wanna do the 145 dungeon?
Klaipeda.
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>>167634001
I wanna do YOU qt!
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>>167633863
idk try 205
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>>167634517
Thanks anon!
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When the fuck does the fucking statue appears in fucking "Carvings on the Pillar" quest? Fuck!
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>duel the famous CnL hacker guild
>crash immediately
Well well well...
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>>167635579
What are they supposed to do without kora ?
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>>167635579
;o !
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>>167635579
Know your place boy scum.
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>Futureproof is recruiting

Message Zhwan, Jennz, or Healmage
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>not using hexasun set
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>>167624094
this is what our thread has turned into, shitposting and avatarfagging.

I preferred it at the start even with all the missinfo
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>>167624514
I'll kill myself before I roll a class that has to use a pussy ass blowpipe
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WizCryo3 here. What class should I take next?
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>>167636832
chrono3warlock
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>>167636832
>WizCryo3Chrono3Sage
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>>167636832

chrono 3, kino 3, wiz 3 rc madman, sorc 2 necro 1 sage (really good)
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>>167636832
Kino3 Warlock/Sage
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>>167635874
Don't mess with boys or the murb gets it
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reminder that Sage c3 skill will be BLACK HOLE
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>>167637619
IDIOT
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>>167637714
sage c2 gets melee hole
sage c3 gets cleric hole
gonna be gr8
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>>167637714
But I already have Black Hole.
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>she isn't at the meet up with her crush right now
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>she is not at the meet up

cool girl ;)
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>>167638141
My crush doesn't like me though, anon.
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>>167638336
Why
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>>167638383
Because I'm a fat autistic neckbeard pretending to be an anime girl online
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>>167638436
but i pretend to be a futa
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CnL really changed Murbish... she's ERPing with Lalacow!
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This meetup is the dedest shit
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>>167638695
post pics
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>>167638846
No one here, ignore the floating talisman.
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>when you ghost her for good
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>>167638124

A BLACKHOLE that sucks like MF but also deals 30 multi-hits in 10 seconds and can be enlarged! sucked things like balls and etc increases the damage and can also be cloned while inside the black hole!
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>>167638141

why this anime's head is so deformed

looks like phineas and ferb
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>she isn't at the cuteNcrimson meetup
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>>167638959
Never forget the good old days.
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>>167631827
Yes I've tried just about every available poison pot card! They are mostly underwhelming. There are some extremely rare ones though that I do not think anyone has, like Neop's card!

>>167630152
If you do not intend to heavily fund your Wugushi and are willing to bet on the STR update then full STR is a good choice! Full DEX is better when you have a very powerful bow, high attributes, and are a Mergen!

I think the best Wugu3 PvE builds are either QS3 Wugu3 or Wugu3 Falc Mergen.

Archer 3 Wugu3 Scout Mergen will always be my favorite though, to me it is a build like no other and I will miss it dearly! If you do decide to go with that build, play it with pride, because you may just be the only person around playing that rare yet capable build. Good luck!
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>>167635434
What the fuck!? Camped for 3 hours and the fucking shit didn't even appear! Fuck!
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red or ded
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I miss the good ol days
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Crimson meet up
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Til next meetup, my communist friends!
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>>167640045

>qs 3

dude, just let qs go lol. running shit is SHOT.

A2 + Wugu 3 is enough, you still have two filler classes before Mergen, and that could be sapper 2, scout 1 + ranger 1, ranger 1 + rogue 1, ranger 1 + qs 1 (qs utility is awesome, even lv 7 pavise/caltrops is great already), fwee 1.

This "poison don't crit" shit doesn't matter, you will roll a2 to crit all your other skill (and this will give you stats flexibility to put str as well), the only difference is that you go red gems over yellows and phys attack on hats over crit attack.
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WE
WUZ
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>>167638695
We were all killing blut without you
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>>167641052
You didn't even get a cube.
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>>167641023
There is a corpse in that pile! What kind of ritual are you doing?!
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>>167641023
CRIMSON DOGS
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>>167641181
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>>167640708
>>167640713
Why is lalaco always playing with some balls?
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>>167640725
>>167640713
>>167640708
What did that bird see under Murbish's skirt?
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>>167641115
You didn't even get to hang out with us!
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>>167641265
>>167638659
Literally who
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>>167641489
>he doesn't know famous ERPer second account
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>>167641464
Who are you?
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>>167515739
I think healmage is lvling a sorc right now
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>>167638695
because everyone was at that r8 boss fight
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>>167641802
>because everyone was spitroasting healmage while blut watched
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full int pyro2linker2thauma2sage meme build here

do i put red or yellow gems in virtov plate top/bot
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>>167642787
Yellow
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>>167641669
Wiz3>Link1>Sorc2>FF2
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Will I be able to get medals from these trash as well?
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>>167644281
yes
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Anyone else FUCKING hate TOSG
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>>167645882
whats TOSG?
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>>167646058
Autism
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What end gear should my cryo chrono have?
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>>167647173
>What end gear should my cryo chrono have?
8 nuales adura lolo/solo/hasta dhragg / rhevisen max peta
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>>167647173
Full CON Grynas with lv6 yellow gems in top and bottom
Rhevisian
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>>167647173
You only need this actually
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Hello I'm the leader for Equilibrium how do I get my guild added to the first post? I've decided we're now a 4chan guild.
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What the hell is the point of the "kill 10k boss monsters" title? Like the only way to feasibly do that would be to take a boss quest and abandon it repeatedly after killing the boss, and even if you could do it 3x a minute that's still 50 hours of mindlessly grinding a quest boss.
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How many enemies can a paladin convert at once with level 10 conversion?
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>>167647173
https://tos.neet.tv/items/142102

This is my endgame weapon, it cost me 35k from marketplace. I get invited to all content by DPScucks with 500m invested in attributes and have no worries.
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>>167648459
You should stop deciding things. You're bad at it.
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>>167648645
dont bother
the converted mob ai is the dumbest thing you will ever see
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Is the game up yet? I have to set up my necro before my shift starts
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>>167651376
30 minutes, anon.
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>>167651376
tell me about it senpai, I gotta set up my 30 afk necro accounts
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>>167648529
You can kill like 7 of them per crystal mines run and you don't have to do it as fast as possible.
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>>167651759
Can't wait to kill them all with my Oracle
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>>167652549
That's 2 years without skipping a day
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>>167639383
Reminder rogues can steal your hole and use it against you
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>>167652632
So? Why do you want it so quickly?
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>>167641445
A knife
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>>167652627
Leave the necros alone!
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>>167648419
>Current Year
>The only real upgrade is a staff, which kind of defeats the purpose of a Cryomancer
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>>167653001
It's like making a grand cross upgrade that's a 2h bow.
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>>167653230
That would be great actually. Musket would've been even better.
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Whats is the point of the 5 free tp ?
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>>167653970
Another thing to keep people logging in day after day
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>>167653970
A shitty version of daily login rewards.
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WHY IS THE CARVINGS ON THE PILLARS QUEST WORKING FOR EVERYONE ELSE BUT ME? THERE IS NO FUCKING PILLAR FOR ME TO TALK TO IT'S JUST EMPTY SPACE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>167653970
To buy soul gems so people won't cry that "THIS GAME IS SO HARD ITS ONLY MEANT TO KILL YOU SO YOU BUY REVIVES P2W!!!!!"
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>>167654232
Is it the only thingg worth buying ?
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>2017
>not playing Tree of Savior 2

All they did was add gacha, how could they break this...
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>>167654314
Teleport scrolls and megaphones.
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>>167654314
Depends. Attention whores spend it all on megaphones. If you like to warp, you can buy 3 warp scrolls a day, since you actually get 6 TP due to you getting 1 every 4 hours. (Although there's some glitch that's been in forever that sometimes puts your TP back at 5 a short while later.)

You can also use it as a discount on enchant scrolls or something. Originally they were going to have some cross server PVP system with the winning server getting it bumped to either 8 or doubled, I forget, but that's probably never happening now.
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>>167654053
In comparison with Black Desert it's awful indeed
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>>167654415
holy shit finally I've been looking forward to tree of savior 2 all year
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>>167654415
Is it like RO2?
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>>167653970
You can have soul gems and microphones without paying money, but you can't have enough of them to spam the fuck out of shout every day or retardcheese the whole game by reviving nonstop. It also gives you a discount on TP purchases while still extracting the full price from impatient people who want to pay more for speed.
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>>167654415
>>167654528
>ToS 2
>No cute anime style
>Everyone looks like a HD rendition of Maggie's art, ears and all
>Game reduced to a hub world with instanced questing missions.
>Your hair and clothes still clip through everything even though it's 20XX
>Your hands are fucking gigantic even though a Thaum hasn't touched them
>Can only wear one head accessory at a time
>>
>stuck at 33%
Fuck you too, Kim
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>>167654415
This is grotesque
>>
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=841
>Known Issues: February 7, 2017
>Everything's on fire
>But we are aware so fuck off
>See you next week
IMC so comfy
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Gothic lolita when?
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>>167654738
>Can only wear one head accessory at a time
How horrifying.
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hey does anyone know if mole cards boost the attack from red gems?
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>>167655263
Yes.
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>>167655313
FUCK I already put yellow gems in everything
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>>167655263
Are you sure? It seems to use main patk for base (even sub patk bonus scales from main patk). Usually such things are not affected by max damage.
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>>167655030
>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=841
How does this happen? I started logging on right before maint ended and got in fine.
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>>167655331
>>167655439
Actually they aren't just checked back.
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>>167655553
phew
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>>167655532
Works fine for me
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>>167623387
>>167623937
cancer from various generals on /vg/
they were shitposting in /rog/ as well
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Do all quests have markers now or do I still need to get betterquest?
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>>167656276
sup' Mr. Nofun
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>>167656357
?
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>>167656580
You're one of those autists who made IMC add quest markers because the concept of hidden and optional quests was too fun for you.
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>>167656657
I see
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>Join Saalus party by clicking on tag in shout while on alt 10 minutes before reset
>"Hi"
>"Fuck off, no leechers"
>Anon removed from party
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>>167656904
You probably have a build that is undesirable in pve scenarios
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>>167657154
Saalus tryharding is fucking sad in first place
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>>167657154
>alt
He never saw the main's build
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>>167657430
I don't disagree but I fucking hate getting canyon with 2 supp chars stripped of gear in the party.
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>>167656904
He was a member of /Bullies/
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>Firmly, I promise you that GvG will be revived in the future patch. If there is future news for our players, I will inform the news of GVG via our official forum's announcements. So sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks Max.
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>>167657581
>Doing Saalus with public parties
I bet you shout for 290rushes too
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>>167657154
There's no such thing as undesirable in saalus. The only reason to even bring 5 people is so you can queue to get around the entry bug.
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>>167660395
Not everyone is part of a clique, anon.
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>>167660395
I shout for ET.
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>>167660521
That's cool, how's that going for you?
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>>167660602
It's going better than not doing it at all and letting the daily runs expire.
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>>167660682
>Muh daily runs
You sure have lots of fun
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Can someone give me a fencer build that'll work well?

I was thinking the two obvious routes would be pelt1 barb3 or Hop3?? pls ideas?
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>>167661138
What else is there to do in this game, ERP in fedi?
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>>167660519
>he can't carry himself
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>>167660505
Are you actually serious? You telling me that you would be fine if your party consisted of you (a shitter) and 4 other you's (bigger shitters)?

I bet you'd character select out of the first saalus you were placed into that gave you a shitty team.
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>Devaluation is now a level 2 debuff instead of lvl 3.
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>>167661836
>rank 5 class with rank 3 debuff that fucks you and two thirds of your guild up from a screen away without breaking stealth

Gee, I wonder why.
Since it's rank 2 now at least they should make it 100% chance instead of 60% and make it resistible by SPR/rune of protection/etc.
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>>167661581
The only map that was hard to solo got removed. The only reasons I'd character select out is if there's so little time before maintenance it'll be impossible to finish the map and I want to run a shorter map, or the group is full of assholes and I want to piss them off.
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>>167661197
Finestra doesn't work for Fencer
From Hoplite you would only get Lunge and Stabbing but you better off with Barb3
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>>167661197
Go Hoplite2Corsair
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>>167662912
Why that? What does Corsair give me that makes it worth it? Especially since >>167662775 says finestra doesn't work.
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>>167663056
The cute costume of course.
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>>167663120
In that case what about Sword3,Pelt1,corsair,1fencer3
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>>167663335
You'll miss Stabbing, which is really great on Fencer3.
Can be used with rapiers and all hits (15) gets boosted by Preparation
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My game can't get past the Tree of Savior splash screen at the start. Send help!

Deleting the XML files and validating integrity isn't working like what Google said.
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Imagine them in a place like Abbey or Alemeth
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>>167663616
IS IT though? like between massively spamming my fencer abilities will I have time to drop down stabbing?
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>>167663758
The hoplite variant more or less gives you more sustainability. The sw3 version is arguably better, gives a very long pain barrier meaning you can spam composee to your hearts content without worry. The trade off to taking hop is that you are given a boost in lunge to your skills, this needs to be MANUALLY weapon swapped to do however and you have to manage pain barrier uptimes a lot more. Stabbing however gives you a great amount of continuous damage for little sp cost which if managed properly can allow you to restore sp nicely in a rotation.

The sw3 variant also gives a strong concentrate, which is boosted by epee. Overall if you want a stronger fencer a sw3 will outdps hop2 on anything that can survive a single rotation.
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ITS BEEN HOURS AND THE FUCKING PILLAR IN GALEED HAS NOT APPEARED FUCK!
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why futureproof is so fucking cringe?
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>>167664804

Futureproof is recruiting!

I'll even take a little bitch like you. We need more slaves anyway.
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>>167665271
Only if I get to bend over Healmage's lap and have my bare bottom spanked by her.
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>>167665271
>tumblr
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>>167665617
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Let it die.
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Morning guys! we're back! almost 50!
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Is Monk good? I'm at Priestc2 and was thinking if I should go for another job.
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>>167668148
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>>167668598
Let's say I go through with it, should I go for STR or DEX?
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>>167668725
DEX
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>>167668598
I want to drink her milk
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>>167665271
That's mean
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Puppeteer gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NDC8b7XxYM
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Why is dex so much better than str? Why would you want to invest your statpoints in something which increases your dmg by 1 when ou could also land crits and do much more dmg than your str would ever be able achieve
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>>167670212
Because it used to be balanced since str builds were really good with Zalcai support and lifeline but trans update, r8 base damages, and crit res no longer going negative ruined str builds.
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>>167670212
Because modern dev teams can't into balance
they're either retards, or shit at math, or pakis copypasting all the code from stackoverflow.

>>167670825
Bullshit. People were complaining about str being shit since start.
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>>167670974
>People were complaining about str being shit since start
but still fall for the meme of str and muh balanced builds
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What would be the best solo build? I need to make an alt.
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Hey guys! we hit 50! anyone want to queue?
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>>167672496
diev miko pd
diev druid
pyro link thaum sage
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>>167672526
Fuck off Narue
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>>167672673
Holy fuckin shit anon, stop being such a fuckin faget, take the dick out of your ears.

Who is Narue?
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>>167672673
just stop replying to avatarfags and they will stop posting
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>>167672496
Most things Cleric.
You'll be shit against flying mobs and owls will be your only source of aoe damage until later on, so keep that in mind if you plan to go Diev.
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>>167673317
What is an image board.
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>every DPS is shit compared to pyro
Defend this.
Why should you spend 500m on an orange stage 10 weapon for your non-pyro class when a pyro gets 390% on that damage and all the multihits in the world to shit it out with?
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>>167673340
Maybe this is a dumb plan, but could something like cleric > Priest 3 > Paladin 3 > Inq work?

I played a paladin in the beta and enjoyed it
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>>167515126
Cleric FS builds for ET?
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>>167673459
>tfw the PyroChrono in my ET party outdps my Dragoon2
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>>167672893
>posts on /vg/
>claims to be RO player
>claims to not know how Narue is
This is how I know you're Narue or MeteorD, you fucking idiot.
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>>167673459
Because a pyro also needs to spend silver on a transcended weapon to do anything against things/players with fuckloads of mdef. Forum shitters use pre-r8 content as measuring sticks and cry they don't get their shiny yellow 1 on mission bosses, don't be one of them.
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>>167674128
The only FS ET cleric build is cleric 2 krivis 3 Priest whatever whatever for melstis.

The other cleric in the ET meta is a dps.
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>>167673459
Physical DPS is irrelevant. All you need is a Pyrolinkers, chronosages and clerics. Get fukt.
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It's coming
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What's the cutest looking 1h spear?
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>>167674612
Why would those things be connected?

Anyway we're in queue
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>>167674128
Cleric 2 Diev 3 Miko PD2
Put down statues, spread AIDS and channel kagura, rinse and repeat. Easy mode, requires a decent weapon for solmiki but people will take you with shit gear anyway cuz diev miko is literally broken.

Cleric 2 Krivis 3 ---- Taoist
Melstis slut, Dark Sight to cheese some floors. Can take miko to gohei some shit and break the game and have kagura to alternate between melstises, can also take druid 2 for an extra invulnerability buff because diev 3 just isn't broken enough so might as well have two skills to make your whole party immune, am I right.

That's the meta, but then you have alternatives like Inquisitor that can work pretty well with some melee classes.

>>167674613
Why do people cry about high mdef when enhanced corruption literally melts anything with high mdef? Maybe if you cunts stopped making necros just to afk shit and actually played the game you'd know how broken that shit is with pyro.
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>>167674613
Anon, you're retarded.

The hundreds of millions in silver they save in not having to buy expensive attributes like everyone else (since theirs are fucking rank 2~3) can easily be invested into transcendence.

Not to mention, it's 2017 it's time to stop whining about mdef. Even shitty pyro 2 farming alts can ohko r8 mobs with fireball and links.
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>>167675025
>The hundreds of millions in silver they save in not having to buy expensive attributes like everyone else (since theirs are fucking rank 2~3) can easily be invested into transcendence.

Not to mention that other classes ALSO have to invest in transcendence on top of expensive attributes, while pyro gets mostly a free ride on the attribute side.
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>>167675025
>it's [current year]
Back to facebook with you.
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>>167674940
>and channel kagura
>swordies
>Solmiki

Nowadays it's mostly SR and pyros as DPS there. Too few doppels are actually funded well enough to be a solmiki DPS and you shouldn't expect to full support around them.
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Just a reminder, in coming weeks/months the damage formula is being changed. In particular skill base damage is being adjusted and defence will provide a percentage reduction instead of flat reduction.

As such it's pointless to bitch about buffs and nerfs until after this patch hits.

Also, I didn't see you bitches crying about retarded damage when Dopples could hit the damage cap and just spin in to destroy everything.

I told you Agni would make Pyros viable. You should have fucking listened to me.
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>>167675498
Yeah well I believe it should be pretty obvious, but if there are no melee DPS he should just skip on channeling kagura.
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>>167674940
>ET meta
>no priest on Krivis3
Diev has no slot for it, but on a krivis is mandatory.
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>>167675498
I will do Solmiki with my Dragoon because i can have a party builded for having it included
And i will have my Kagura too
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>>167675907
>Dragoon
>dps
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>>167675594
Doppel being DPS is significantly less faggy because it's a dps class. They were blatantly broken but it wasn't insulting like how Pyros cheese the entire leveling process and then go on to be one of the strongest classes in the game while also being able to fit in utility circles.
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>>167675907
>Dragoon
>Dps
>Solmiki

I bet you havent even gotten past the first floor of Lolo
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pyro2 link2 thaum2, should I pick enchanter or pyro3 for R8?
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>>167676239
Sage to double your balls
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How the hell do I level fast now? All the online guides are outdated now, surely?
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>>167676381
>not having a pocket sage
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>>167676239
Thaum3 because bitches will love your big head.
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all these dungeon reset vouchers and no motivation to use them :^(
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>>167676392
Level 1-30 just kill things, if you're crazy lazy ask a Warlock to power level you at West Siluai but my god man 1-30 is so fast. 30-80 or however late you want have Warlock power level you at Royal Maus with the events, you'll level very fast. If you can't get a Warlock then follow quests on Klai side till you can do missions. Leveling is easy now just follow quest until Fedi and then do missions every day.
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>>167676392
>somehow get to 50
>do the dungeon
>either walk to the first level 4 cards zone (Akmens Ridge) and quest there or directly to Royal Mausoleum Workers Lodge and have a Warlock boost you to 90
>do the 90 dungeon
>walk to Fedimian
>do the Mercenary Missions
Now just do dungeons and missions daily untill you're well over the 145 (~170)
Don't even try to do dungeons above the 145, they are a waste of time.
Once you get to 200 you'll start the grind spot zone.
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>>167676647
>not wanting x4 balls
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>>167676986
You can't dupe dupes
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>>167677118
Oh, that's pretty bad.
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>>167676851
>>167676882
>Warlock boosting

Do people ask for payment for that, or do they only do it for guildmates?
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>>167677191
>doubling fireball damage
>bad
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>>167676381
Aren't copied balls kind of bad?
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>>167677432
Not anymore. they are copied at the same level of the original balls now.
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>>167676110
>>167676228
I am even going to get the 2h orange pike over any other weapon
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How do you even make the hundreds of millions of silver you need in this game?
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>>167678392
Are you at least a cata 3?
If so at least that scales well with transcend.
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>>167678565
More or less a handful of wizard builds that are stupidly good at farming.
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>>167678565
RMT
No lifing
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>>167674829
*unzip pants
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>>167678565
erp with wealthy players
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>>167678690
Infantry goon
Hop3DoppelDragoon2
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>>167678890
Wtf just reroll then
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>>167678890
>non catagoon
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>>167678890
>0 aoe outside of Dethrone
>doesn't even go fast
Shit build
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>>167678994
Not rerolling and gonna make the orange pike and will trascend it to stage5+ too
>>167679136
Your build is shit
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>>167678890
>>167679287
Stubborn fool.
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>>167679462
I will make it for her
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>>167676196

Pyro is a DPS class. You saying they don't deserve to do damage?

May as well remove all damage classes from Wizards and make them support only because without Agni and Pyro they have no damage.
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>>167679136
That build has DoV and Cyclone, both better than irrelevant ģoing fast and rush
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>>167676196
>leveling process
stopped reading here
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>>167680293
>level 5 DoV
>level 5 Cyclone
>better than Rush after the cata buffs
Yeah nah.
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Hello anon, I played this game some time ago and just checked and I have a shitty Cleric at lvl 100 with no idea what to do with it. Should I try to salvage it or start out fresh? I forgot everything about the game, questions:

Can I play a dank ass samurai/ninja and live out my weeb fantasies?

Can I play a dank ass gunslinger with explosions and lots of pew pew and live out my cowboy (weeb) fantasies?

Fastest character and way to solo level with? I remember back then it was a horribly boring grind with having to do the same quests over and over again and mobs not giving any XP at all.
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>>167679758
Whatever it doesn't matter how much you point out that Wiz have utility spells available to them in addition to damage and that Wiz magic circle spells can be cast once and then the Wiz can run around freely, Wiz are gonna be whiny faggots about everything. Frost Cloud was broken in R7 and Wiz threw a bitchfit about Quickcast nerf discussion, now Agny is broken and Wiz bitch about Agny nerf discussions. And then somebody will go "abloo bloo bloo but PD2 is broken too fucking clerics" like we don't all already know Cleric is too strong.
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>>167680481
>a shitty Cleric at lvl 100
Post build.

>Can I play a dank ass samurai/ninja and live out my weeb fantasies?
There's a ninja class, but it's not great.

>Can I play a dank ass gunslinger with explosions and lots of pew pew and live out my cowboy (weeb) fantasies?
there's SR for gun skills and Sapper or Cannoneer for explosions.
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>>167680628
Mad swordcuck spotted
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>>167680628

Swordsmen have a fuck load of utility.

I find it particularly funny you mention Quick Cast because Swordsmen have 8 abilities that are comparable to Quick Cast, except several of them are much stronger.

It's you Swordsmen that are whiny faggots. I still remember when IMC fixed a single Dopple bug and they whined none stop for two fucking weeks, people were even sending IMC fucking suicide notes if they didn't revert the fix.
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>>167680701
>Post build.
stats: 10 str, 34 con, 160 int, 21 spr, 6 dex
skills: cleric: lvl 8 heal, lv 5 cure, lv 4 safety zone, lv 3 divine might, lv 1 fade
krivis: lv 3 aukuras, lv 3 zalciai, lv 4 daino, lv 10 zaibas, lv 5 divine stigma

I *think* I wen c2-k2
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>>167680897
>Swordsmen has to walk into melee range and actively use abilities that debuff a limited number of enemies to gain access to their multipliers


Yeah this is totally the same as dropping a fireball that does 20+ hits twice and then freely walking around using other skills and also the same as my 50% perma multiplier that isn't limited by silly things like "uptime" and "number of enemies I can hit".

Kys
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>>167680983
Looks like you're almost full INT.
Cleric2Krivis3--Taoist is a very powerful and meta cleric build.

You skill points are correct too.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#413313.1a2a345561.1323344f5a65
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>>167681175
thanks senpai appreciate it
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>>167678565
by farming harder than an amish farmer
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>>167681149

Swordsmen get triple the fucking Hp of any other class and a dash for no particular reason. Your debuffs not only effect you, but they effect anyone else hitting that enemy.

Also you should consider playing a Wizard class. Because they too are effectively fucking melee ranged. I have to walk into melee range of enemies and drop my fireballs on them, then stand around until it kills shit. The difference is, my fireballs have an absurdly long casting time while your abilities hit the moment you use them.

Kill yourself my man. But only after you actually play the game some more.
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>>167681149
>I have never played a Pyro the post
Fireballs are melee you retard, they also have a 2s cast animation.
Not to mention that they have a very small fixed aoe attack ratio of 3, gets knocked back by swordcucks like you and completely cancelled by Storm Call or Rain.

The only other great skill is Fire Pillar which does a ton of damage and is an aoe disable, even if it's quite small.
Still it has around 2 years cooldown, so forget casting it multiple times.

The remaining skills are either bad or mediocre.
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>>167680385
Yes, DoV+Cyclone is better than Rush alone
Dragoon2 in all variant being underwhelming as fuck in current meta is another story
The 90% of Swordman in Solmiki are super whales anyways because the average party can't afford most of the time to carry a swordman
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>>167681436
Flamebreath is great with linked fireballs
It multiplies the damage by a shitload
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>>167681517

Notice how all the complainers and whales are swordsmen? It's because for the longest time swordsmen were the meta class and everyone rushed to make one.
Now the meta has changed and there is a class that can compete with them, obviously they're all bitching because they're no longer the best.
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>swaaz bitches about swordsmen builds that aren't his
>swaaz bitches about chronos because they get parties
>swaaz now bitching about pyros
Remember: everyone has it super duper ez and swaaz is playing the hardest mode which is why he never wins but he's still the best
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>>167681669
Everything is great with links.

>>167681814
>swaaz
>using capital letters
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>>167681398
>>167681436
>Cast Fireballs away from enemy
>Joint penalty enemy to fireballs or push fireballs into enemy

You're ignoring that you can get the fireball safely from out of range and maneuver enemies into it or just link them to it, you don't have to cast fireballs directly on top of the enemy and most Pyros don't. Also Pyro is only rank 2 so you get more ranks to play around with as opposed to things like Doppel that basically need their entire class tree to support their damage.
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>>167681868
>swaaz
>using capital letters
Oh no how will I ever see through his disguise
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>>167681814

I levelled from 1 to 320 with nothing but Pyro skills for damage before Agni was added.

When it comes to suffering not one of you people has anything on me.
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>>167681880

You do that, then the enemy gets hit once or twice by the fireball and walks out of it's range.
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>>167681880
>Joint Penalty has infinite range
K.

>Doppel that basically need their entire class tree to support their damage.
LMAO.
With how good Trans weapons are and how low physical defense is Doppels bare free to go SW3 for eternal pain barrier.
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>>167680628
>And then somebody will go "abloo bloo bloo but PD2 is broken too fucking clerics" like we don't all already know Cleric is too strong.
The irony.
>>
Why is it that most Clerics are willing to acknowledge they play the most broken class tree in the game but Wizards vehemently deny that their class tree that also is guaranteed at least 2 ET spots and makes the most silver/hour is also broken?
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>>167682206
Where on the doll did the wizard JP you?
>>
Swordcucks foaming at their mouth to the superiority of caster classes

Ahaha you guys are funny, go take a seat with the archers or spend 500m so you can do comparable damage to the chosen ones
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>>167682206
Why is it that most Clerics are willing to acknowledge they play the most broken class tree in the game but Sworcucks vehemently deny that their class tree that also is guaranteed at least 2 World Bosses spots is also broken?
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>>167682652
Nice falseflag swordcuck
>>
There are 2 kinds of PvE Swordman
The kind with a clique builded around to fit them somehow and most of the time their job is taunting mobs anyways
And the whales too salty for rerolling
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>>167681934
that is easy, you shitter
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Tell me all the advantages of Necro c1, please. I need one filler r6 class for my kino 3 warlock-sage build. no interest in afking.

>flesh cannon
How many hits it actually does? Is lv 5 enough? Assuming it's a good multihit skills with 1k power at lv 5, my weapon should cover the rest to keep it relevant

>shog
is maxed at lv 5, but even so, not sure if it's worth 5 points

>flesh hop
interesting "free damage" to combo with psychic pressure, but how often does it hits? 1 hit/second?

>dirty pole
what uses DP has? It says that it applies decay and shit. does it attacks from afar?


>gather corpse
is it just another energy bolt? does it pushback our targets?
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>>167682763
>Nice falseflag swordcuck
Nice falseflag swordcuck
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>>167682661
>world bosses
It's not r7 anymore, get with the times. Shit doesn't matter at all now besides Blut, and you either only need 1 swordie or none at all.
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>>167683217
>>Nice falseflag swordcuck
>Nice falseflag swordcuck
Nice falseflag swordcuck
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>>167683204
>Necro
is only for afk or egdy summons (they suck and even more at c1)

or for niche debuff support in a min-max Pro static
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>>167683464
>not needing either a fencer or a doppel and the dragooncuck to provide serpentine
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Lv2 Abbrassives and hamsters for you if you roll on Fedi and join us
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>>167683798
>hamsters
is it spring/summer Current Year-1?
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>>167683204
If you want to transcend your item then lvl 5 flesh cannon is definitely enough as it only increases the base damage not the amount of hits which is 16 so it scales well with transcend.

Dirty pole is necros second best spell, it creates a fleshpole that knocks up even immune people on cast and creates a tower that just stands there taking spells (like dark theurge)
Unfortunately it creates also a target to link people to it
Decay is great, but unfortunately its bugged and only works once per enemy, so you need to relog if you want to apply it to someone again

flesh hoop sucks but can be left at lvl 1 just because you dont have much else to spend points on
shoggoth is maximum worth 3 points and even that is a meme attribute, leaving it at 1 is completely fine too
dont get gather corpse

t. ex necro pro
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>>167683993
>hating on hamsters
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>>167683994

thanks anon.

I was thinking about this (necro distribution)

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2134449fe.1321354551.13253542.1f23354b516575.22354573

also, do you know how exactly how often hoop hits or how many hits cannon does?

I see potential on flesh hoop because lol, I'll be kissing my enemy with psychic pressure for a long time and hoop is perfect to complement PP.
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>>167684994
>>167683994

sorry, I missed that you already answered about cannon hits. 16 is fucking brutal, lol.
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>>167684994
Looks good but I would prefer you put more points into pole instead of hoop or shoggoth
the damage doesnt increase that much, because it hits very slow and shoggoths attribute is lame and barely does anything

As I mentioned before flesh cannon hits 16 times and flesh hoop hits around 15 times (1 tick or so per second)

>>167685273
Its definitely strong but people can walk out of it, it also does not hit anyone within the raise because they're flying
(Unless you position yourself in a maximum efficient way)
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>>167685386

I see. I'm okay with Raise because I have a lot of things to do with Raised people already (DT hug, pole+hoop+pressure), Flesh cannon will demand a very fast Mf combo or a single sleep I think.

How Dirty Pole AI behaves? He focus the nearest target or someone who's attacking me? How it deals with hunter's pet?
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>>167650248
That didn't answer my question.
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>>167686139
No dirty pole is literally just a pole doing nothing but tanking various kinds of attacks (eats up fireballs/dark theurge)

But when you cast it, the pole raises out of the ground, and knocks everyone up in its radius
(I used to use that knockup to cast fleshcannon on the enemy)
It also applies the very useful (but buggy) decay debuff which is why you want to max it

Anyways thats my last post for now, my next class has no computer to use
If you have more questions I can answer them later, but necro1 is definitely a good filler
However Linker1 is also great with Kino3 just a thing to consider
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>>167686139
Dirty pole is a literal pole. It does not move or attack beyond the first hit, unless you have the necro 3 attribute to knock shards off it.

Also Flesh Hoop is shitty because it divides its number of hits by the targets its hitting. That is, it has not aoe ratio. I don't remember how many hits it does, but if it's 16, then it'd hit 4 things 4 times. Also you tend to have to walk away and back into something to hit it, so there's a chance enemies would only be hit once by your hoop while you're standing still.
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How ET viable is Pyro2ThaumaLink2?
Do Pyro need Pyro3 for ET for the swelling arms are good replacement?
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Why does nothing have synergy with mages? Why don't other classes have attacks that make things take +100% fire damage or something? Why do mages support everyone else but no one supports mages?
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>>167686424
>>167686408

I understand. Thanks, again, anons. Necro seems the stronger filler for now. I have some experience with linker 1 kino, it's really strong indeed. I'm torn between necro (strongest candidate), linker 1, pyro 1... even sorc 1 or chrono 1 or lel, runecaster seems good. cryo 2 might be good too for the subzero shield, but at only 45% (lv 7 with audra) rush+pain barrier tends to bypass it like nothing. tried subzero 10 (12) already and even it wasn't that reliable vs catacancer.

Pyro 1: adds sort of a build of kangz combo, fireball 5 is weak but with agny still better than 90% of the other spells, flame ground is a amazing complimen to PP.

Cryo 2: Subzero 7, IW 12

Linker 1: JP is godly, hangman pull is also great, even if they have tier 1 cc resist.

Thauma 1: Even for a full con build, thauma 1 adds a absurd amount of matk simply but the fact that, if you feel confident enough, you can transpose your 500 con into 500 int+200~ from the swell itself after raising your resistant target.

Elementalist: stone curse, lol.

Sorc1: bats protection and they can be cloned by sage, +TS and salamion to create a army of walking shields. Cat buff ain't bad.

Chrono1: there was a bug with stop that made the target vulnerable while stopped and also had their mdef reduced to 0. shit like whales dying like flies to magic happened that week, but I'm almost a month way from tbl, not sure if it was fixed and I don't want to get hehehe'd later.

Alchesmist: wut, combustion combos at tbl? lol

Necro 1: discussed already

RC: very strong if you somehow bypass the 2.5k matk without int, lol otherwise, 3*0=0. almost unplayable without QC.
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>>167687230

highlander's crown actually gives some decent extra dps for mages, can give like, +500 ticks for pyros vs very high mdef monsters and basically negates their CC resist.

falconer's aoe ratio negation and better hitbox is fucking godly for pyro, necros and shit
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>>167688547
Consider replacing cryo with pyro and taking necro. You can put your balls against your pole and PP them without them moving around and it has a much shorter cooldown than ice wall.
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>>167689061

that's a good option, makes pve much easier too, but I love cryo too much, and that shield' mdef attribute is too good. might be redundant with missile hole but even so, Icewall is a lovely spell...

The option to go Pyro 2 -> Kino 3 -> warlock ->sage is also something to consider regarding pyros, raise into firepillar + pole seems fun, and fireball 10 is a real fireball already
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>Pyro3 Linker2 Thaum1
Thaum2, Sage or Enchanter?
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>>167690780
Thaum2
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>>167690780
If you want it as main I recommend Sage
If you want it just for farming you better want thauma2
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>>167690968
not only for farming, thaum2 buffs are also much stronger than thaum1
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Are 3* the highest gems that drop right now?
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>tfw DPScuck
>tfw being poor as fuck
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>Only just now realized player shops will say things to you like NPCs because they only do it if you use the space bar
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>>167692842
If you only cared about raw damage, then enchanter gives more than Thau2 over thau1. However, damage + 3 more swell is neat.
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>>167693854
thaum has INT scaling.
literally futureproof
and INT stat buff incoming memes

stronger balls > more balls
but maybe sage2 can be good
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>>167694116
>thaum has INT scaling.
I know, I have a thaum 2 with almost 1000 INT and swell right arm + extra levels of left arm is still currently less than that of enchanter.
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>>167694824
Remember they're gonna get 5 more levels of enchant lightning at r9 too
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>>167694824

But that is wrong.

I'm a Thaum 2 and Enchanter. I get about 750 damage from Swell Arms and 500 from Enchant Lightning.
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>>167692842
Sage is more useful and is only at its first rank
If you actually plan on transcending your weapon then the thaum buffs are insignificant
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>>167694824

raw matk is better, lightning get cucked by earth mobs half of the time

t. krivis
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>Sage c2
>missile hole absorbs more hits
>micro dimension still sucks outside of duplicating
>ultimate dimension still sucks period
>blink just makes your copy stick around longer
>they get one new skill
Sage C2 is going to suck. C3 MIGHT be good.
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>>167696310
You don't know either of that
And the fact that you double your fireballs on each cast of them means that its already better than thauma2 with good weapons

Kill yourself you autistic goodbuild theoryshitter
Also you dont have to go Sage2, Sage1 is a great onecircle wonder already
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>>167695490
He's talking about only right arm which is like 380 ish damage and 5 more levels of left arm over thaum 1 which is probably like 60 damage or something.

Enchant lightning also becomes 600 whenever there's a cleric 2 in party.
>>
what're the chances of getting pract from this piece of shit cube
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>>167696751
3.4343434343 %
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>>167696469
>You don't know either of that
Either? Anyway, yes, I do know what I stated.
>already better than thauma2
I'm not comparing it to other classes. Where did you pull that from?
>Also you dont have to go Sage2, Sage1 is a great onecircle wonder already
No shit, dumbass. But I'm pointing out that Sage 2's new skill better be damned good or it's going to be a lackluster circle until at least c3.
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>>167696910
Why would you even bring up Sage2 if you weren't talking about the topic at hand whether to pick Thauma2 or Sage

And no you don't know if Sage gets only 1 or maybe 2 skills and neither do you know if ultimate and micro dimension will still suck (maybe they get multihit attributes or something)
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>>167696310
WL2 is also crap. many c2 are and can only hope c3 saves the classes.
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>>167696310

C3 = BLACK HOLE
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>>167697137
C2 that are good:

>dragoon2
>musketeer2
>FF2
>PD2

C2 that are crap:

>Cannon2 (is just shit in general)
>Templar2 (is also shit in general)
>Warlock2

Kabb2 is okay


>many c2 are crap
Do you even play the game?
Most C2 are still super great
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>>167697069
>Why would you even bring up Sage2
Because this is the tree of savior general, dummy. Notice how I didn't respond to a previous post? Wow!
>And no you don't know if Sage gets only 1 or maybe 2 skills
True, but that's not really the point. Here, let me make it easy for you: Sage's new skill(s) better be damn good.
>neither do you know if ultimate and micro dimension will still suck
Their damage won't be good.
>(maybe they get multihit attributes or something)
I never once mentioned attributes, for a reason.
Stop getting mad because you thought I was attacking your choice of sage over thaum2, even though I never quoted, you furious little retard.
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>>167697242
>black hole
>it's gravity pole on steroids
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>>167697242

>YFW C3 Enchanter
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>>167697424
It's hard to tell if you forgot to quote something or not seeing as you and your opinions are retarded.
Sorry about that man
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>>167697548
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>>167697648
>It's hard to tell if you forgot to quote
>[because] your opinions are retarded
Doesn't even make sense. Thanks again, furious little retard (that's my pet name for you now. It's cute).
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>>167697397
lame/shitty/weak C2 and you (almost) always take c3

>chrono
>elem
>cryo
>qs
>wiz2
and there are more
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>>167698239
Oh man you really got btfo by me proving that Sage is a good choice didn't you pathetic little fuckface?
You can call me whatever you want, but everytime you will see a Sage you will know that you've been dumpstered by me, on this very thread.
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>>167698375
Who cares about these old shitty classes?
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I'm making a new char! when I can start the tenet garden grind?
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>>167698759
Whats the Tenet garden grind?
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>>167698607
you could just admit you lost
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>>167698759
Get like first class level on Hanamins then grind there.
Do quest in Crystal mines and Tenent's Church, Seal of Space is useful.
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>>167698832
Lost what?
I was talking about C2 and so where you weren't you?
>WL2 is also crap. many c2 are and can only hope c3 saves the class
Whats the point in bringing up old C2 classes, you're actually the one moving goalposts.
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>>167698983
It's probably the same guy who was sperging out about someone discussing Sage2 without his permission.
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>>167698983
Was talking about C2 classes, and not only recent or high classes.
Why would lower classes not count?
Many C2 are weak. And often C3 make them a lot better.
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>>167699130
Im not and i dont care about sage2

>x is bad
>no is not
>well THAT does not count
kysmm
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>>167699130
No that's me actually
I own this thread buddy

>>167699235
>Why would lower classes not count?
Because you were talking in future tense...
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>>167698983
>Whats the point in bringing up old C2 classes
Maybe showing a balance pattern? Retard.
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>>167698983
>>167699368
even IMC and there GMs used to say
>C2 are often weak and C3 make them good

there are screens of GMs sayin that somewhere
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>>167698828

tenet garden is a sweet spot to grind, there's always parties there. you can get lv 50 very fast without questing.

>>167698943
thanks, I just got the black hair and r2. I pretend to backtrack all those stats and utility quests, but my priority now is to hit 317 asap with this qt. And I'm rolling full con so the extra stats can wait...
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>>167699520
That's a thing of the past though, seeing just from r8 most of the C2 are really good and are a huge upgrade worthy of its investment
Anyways lecture is almost over and I gotta drive home,
enjoy being ded general while the threadmaster is in transit

Peace out kids.
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>>167700026
>enjoy being ded general while the threadmaster is in transit
no worries, we dont need you or anything
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