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/sthg/ - Sonic The Hedgehog General

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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General. Let's talk about Sonic games as well as the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more

/sthg/ #666 - Hell on Mobius edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
The Sonic Movie Characters May Have Redesigns “But Nothing Extreme”
http://www.tssznews.com/2016/12/26/the-sonic-movie-characters-may-have-redesigns-but-nothing-extreme/

Collectors Edition of Sonic Mania for Nintendo Switch
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/819965709153234944

TOMY 2017 Catalogue Reveals More Boom and Classic Merchandise
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/12/tomy-2017-catalogue-reveals-more-boom-and-classic-merchandise/

Archie Comics April 2017 Covers and Solicitations
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/articles/archie-comics-april-2017-covers-and-solicitations/1100-156341/

Archie Sonic Ending?
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/01/16/sonic-subcriptions-disappear-from-archie-web-store/

>Recent and Upcoming Releases<
The Sonic the Hedgehog level pack for LEGO Dimensions has released! You can purchase it online or at physical retailers near you. NOTE: You will need the LEGO Dimensions starter pack to play.

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2

Last thread: >>167317108
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Anime Rotor.
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first for fast
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Why doesn't the social media team ever announce their streams ahead of time?
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Well well well, what have we here?
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FAST
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Thread theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3Vynew5mrw
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TOO FUCKING SLOW
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Fun Fact: The very first story Ian Flynn wrote and Tracy Yardley! drew (the See Ya Later Chao! backups) were meant to be published in 155-156
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>>167514734
Alternate thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvCDlspW0UM
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>>167514527
Thanks for linking this in the last thread!
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DID YOU KNOW? - According to Omochao Eggman's mustache is fake!
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What kind of metal would Breezie listen to?
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>>167515147
DID YOU KNOW? - According to Eggman, the Wisps are more powerful than the Chaos Emeralds!
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>>167515147
Eggman's mustache is real! REAL!
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>>167515147
Omochao is a fucking liar. He thinks he's a know-it-all, but he's not.
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>>167515829
did big get retconned from being blaze's dad?
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As part of MAME's 20th anniversary, they managed to get a dump of Segasonic Cosmo Fighter Galaxy Patrol
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>>167516117
Maybe it's a different Big?
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>>167516117
>Blaze's Dad
That's Big's descendant.

He actually fucked someone.
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>>167516117
Pretty sure her dad is just a non-related big looking cat.
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Where can I get these comics?!
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Diggin the op guy.
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IN THIS WOOOORLD
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>>167517472
Japan
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Why did the number of the images on the Booru go down?
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>>167518342
I remove duplicates and non-/sthg/ stuff as I slowly go through tagging it.
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>>167519361
You're the hero this general needs
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>>167516158
What's the most obscure Sonic game out there /sthg/? This one seems like a pretty good contender
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>>167519651
Sonic Eraser
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>>167519651
Sonic's Schoolhouse
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>>167519361
Thank you.
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>>167514670
>tfw this artist went retired
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>>167519361
pic related

>>167519597
But most definitely not the one we deserve.
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I'm the guy who had trouble with generations.
I tried to play 1 and even with save states I found it frustrating as fuck. I also thought it was not fun and not about going fast at all because if you go fast you die. I honestly think it was just another shitty platformer of the time, hard as fuck but without the fun of other challenging games.

>inb4 why the fuck are you even still trying if you hate it retard

I don't know. I honestly don't know.
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>>167520704
Consider quitting video games and pursuing movies. You're obviously not cut out for this
>Sonic is about going fast meme
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>>167520704
>not about going fast
Good job you figured it out.
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>>167520704
1 is more frustrating than the other classic games.
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>>167520704
I find it funny that you have so much trouble.

It's probably not going to be the same for you as you obviously have a lot more trouble than me, but S3&K was the one that really sold me the classic games. I don't really like 1 or 2 that much, but I loved 3&K. But I don't think I would have if I had gone straight to it so I would still say man up and go through them and see how it is for you when you get there.
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What are your guy's thoughts on the different Sonic Boom writers
http://pastebin.com/f2mYw8Jr
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>>167520858

FUCK OFF MAN!
I just have a lot of trouble with these shitty games and it's pissing me off that they're not generally considered hard.

It's fucking annoying me. I can play games just fine.
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>>167520704
The point of Sonic is to learn the level layout so you can go fast.

>Save states
FUCKING SCUM

But seriously, this game was about trial and error, you'd go fast the first couple of times and get your shit handed to you. Several Game Overs you'd go slower but get further and then you'd die on a later level.
But then you'd kinda know the previous level layout some more so you know roughly the way to go to save lives, and you'd attemot the part you died at again.
Repeating, you'd get fucking great and fast at GHZ and Marble Zone by the time you start hitting the final boss.

Using save states just mean you never learn.
DKC is better in almost all conceivable way though.
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>>167521250
>It's shit because I'm bad at it and went into it with the wrong mentality
Like I said, try not being shit at the game
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>>167521250
>they're not generally considered hard.
>I'm having a lot of trouble with it
Sounds to me like you need to git gud.
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>>167521250
Define what games. A while back you said Dark Souls was easy, but how many 2D platformers do you even play?
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>>167521492
I never said dark souls was easy, just that I beat it.
Not many, I mostly play mario games I guess. It can get kinda hard on later levels but it's always fun.
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>>167521763
>Baseline difficulty is Mario
Okay, now it makes sense.
You can't handle a game that actively pushes you to get good and learn the mechanics rather than hold you hand
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>>167521862
>Mario doesn't push you
I don't know man, Sunshine was difficult as fuck.
And SMB 3 gets ridiculous later on.
Although there was more of an agreeable learning curve.
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>>167522187
>SMB3 gets ridiculous
Ha, wow.
Though I will agree Sunshine is retarded, but only in certain instances
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>>167521862

It doesn't help that the game is shit.
I found the level design really shit so I don't even want to "get good".

>whole gimmick is gotta go fast
>oh yeah let's make everything after first world slow with spikes and underwater and shit
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>>167522281
apparently the reason why the classic games had moments that made you slow down was to make the fast sections even faster
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>>167522281
>whole gimmick is gotta go fast
Nah nigga we ain't doin this again
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>>167522281
>Whole gimmick is go fast
There's that meme again. Even if Sonic 1 is not as good as the other Genesis games (Which you should give a shot as they are far better), it's still an alright game

You're like those journalists who hold righti n a Sonic game and when you die, you complain the game is too hard and the franchise is shit rather than making an effort to actually be halfway decent at the game
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>>167522462
>>167522502

How the fuck is it not?
It fucking is.
That's the only thing he's got, he runs fast.
Well excuse me for thinking the whole point was to go fast.

Generations, at least 3D sections, are all about that. Actually the most fun I had with this series so far.
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>>167522246
I died a lot to World 7 + 8, ;_;
I personally have played Sonic 2 it's not hard any more, I guess cause I haven't played Mario too much that's where my gripe is.
Although Mario's a hard platformer in the old games. You ever completed Mario 1 son?
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>>167522281
Going fast is not a right, it is a privilege. Speed must be earned through skill, know-how, and a positive, can-do attitude.
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>>167523006
See >>167523069
Though if you really think Sonic is all about instant speed, play Rush. I'm sure you'll enjoy that and Advance 2. All you gotta do is hold right to win, should be good for someone of your skill level
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>>167523006
The point is he CAN go fast, not that he'll always be fast.

Even in modern Sonic, you still have to slow down on some sections or do some platforming here or there.

What do you want, just a running Sonic game where you jump after it gives you a 3 second warning to do so?
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>>167523171

I played rush a long time ago and I could 't beat a boss or something and quit. That's all I remember.

Maybe the series is just not for me.
Stop saying I'm shit because it really triggers me.
I'm not saying I'm good either, just average.
The games are fucking hard.
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>>167523580
>Stop saying I'm shit because it really triggers me.
>Stop triggering me by telling me the truth
>The games are hard I'm not shit
Like I said before, git gud or git out. Maybe movies are more your thing. Then again you'd accidentally cut off your finger with the CD or some shit
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>>167523883
>Then again you'd accidentally cut off your finger with the CD or some shit
That's harsh, dude.
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>>167523580
>complains he's shit
>gives poor reasons for being shit
>Don't call me shit guys

Try... not being shit?
Or just find a different series. I dunno, if you like the comics and animation you can chill, or you really like the lore of Sonic or what have you, but I'd recommend DKC if you want a good platformer if you'd like.
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>>167523580
>Stop saying I'm shit because it really triggers me.
Can you and everyone who thinks like you stop coming to this fucking general?
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>>167519361
What's considered non-/sthg/? I ask mainly because of ABT's work and the difficulty of knowing if Chauvels posted art here first or not.
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>>167524260
Stuff that wasn't originally posted here. If someone doesn't know if it was or wasn't, post it here. I'm not the one tagging/pruning the galleries, just thought I'd help clear it up
>>167524179
>or what have you, but I'd recommend DKC if you want a good platformer if you'd like.
He'd probably bitch that he can only take two hits and proceed to die in the first level I guarentee it. Maybe Kirby is his speed, assuming he doesn't die to Wispy Woods
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>>167523069
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Hey /sthg/ it's the cute barefoot girls hour!
Post Sonic girls without their footwear, in a non-sexualized way, that convey pureness, delicacy, connection with nature...
Don't care if it's paws, toes or blobs, everybody is welcome!
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>>167523580
Capped for hilarity.
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>>167524243
>>167523883
Go easy on him, anons.

Anyways, if you can't play the games, you got the shows, comics & other stuff. No need to leave the series, senpai
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>>167523883
>>167524179
>>167524243

STOP
THE GAMES ARE FUCKING HARD, IT'S NOT ME

You're making me go Sparky levels of autistic here but just stop. These fucking games are hard, not of average difficulty.
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>>167524421
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>>167524421
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>>167524352
>If someone doesn't know if it was or wasn't
Kind of hard to know what you're clearing out due to the sheer amount of content; most won't immediately recognize something's missing. Best err on the side of caution.
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>>167524553
>You're making me go Sparky levels of autistic here but just stop. These fucking games are hard, not of average difficulty.
Anon, due to brain problems, I have awful hand eye coordination. I still cannot hold a pencil or pen the correct way, and I sure as shit can't throw a ball correctly. And yet I could beat the classic games. What's your fucking excuse? They're not that hard senpai
>>167524745
True
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>>167524553
The games get hard, sure. But practice and you'll get better.

>Sparky levels of autistic
One, you'll never be THAT autistic.
Two, if you know Sparky, then you've been here before, if you just like the comics or cartoons or shit then that's fine, but most of us have played the classics so much it's second nature to us to not be that bad at them.
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>>167523580
"Average" would be clearing the game with no regard to time or completion %. Sorry anon, but if you can't even beat Sonic 1 at least I don't know what to tell you.
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>>167525085

You are autistic though, that's just fact.
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>>167525085
Speak of the retarded devil and he shall appear
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>>167525085
Goddamnit Sparky you could set a watch by you.

Sparky, you're pretty much a mainstay around here and it'd be weird if you were gone, but you hit autism levels that shouldn't be possible.
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>>167525127
From someone who has completed the classics a lot, Sonic 1 is probably the hardest out of the bunch, with Sonic 3+K being considerably easier. Bosses are harder in S3+K though.
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>>167525085
You really aren't in the best position to judge, Sporky
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>>167524260
I usually leave up any art uploaded that's from someone who has drawn stuff here. Really, I just mostly get rid of art I know is just saved off of tumblr, dA, etc. that isn't made by anyone here/isn't related to /sthg/.
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So what's the easiest and hardest Sonic games then? Or just general difficulty.

I'd imagine Generations is the overall easiest.
Not sure about hardest. Rush got fairly annoying later on with the constant bottomless pits.
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>>167525302

I found sonic 1 to be quite easy up until the silver sonic fight near the end.

Also blue spheres is stupidly hard.
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>>167524790
My problem is not that I can't beat them. My problem is that they don't even have a reputation for being hard unlike other games of the time but they clearly are, that's what gets me.

>>167524995
I lurked while playing generations.
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>>167525463
>Silver Sonic
That's Sonic 2 amigo.
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>>167525463
>Sonic 1
>Silver Sonic?
>Blue Spheres?
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>>167525417
Generations is the easiest when not going for 100% missions.

Hardest is either Unleashed or surprisingly, Lost World. Or Sonic 2 Game Gear
>>167525463
>Sonic 1
>Silver Sonic
I'm gonna mcfucking slap yo
>>167525573
>My problem is that they don't even have a reputation for being hard unlike other games of the time but they clearly are, that's what gets me.
That's because most people have basic hand-eye coordination, something you obviously lack
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Speaking of difficulty, how do you think 2017 will rank up in terms of how hard it'll be?
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>>167525463
I think you mean Sonic 2, senpai.
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>>167525463
Hi, IGN.
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>>167525879
They have good taste. What, do you seriously think Ice Cap wasn't the best Sonic 2 level?
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>>167525573
The key to gitting gud at Sonic games is simply to learn the level.
You're not gonna go fast until you're at least aware of the layout. That's all there is to it.
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>>167524553
>THE GAMES ARE FUCKING HARD, IT'S NOT ME
Anon, when I was around 5 years old I could get to the final boss of Sonic 2. Granted, Sonic 1 is a bit more difficult than 2, but not by that much. Ecco the Dolphin is fucking hard. Sonic the Hedgehog isn't. I honestly want to see you stream yourself playing what you're even doing to be having this much trouble with the games.
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>>167525663
Not him, but Unleashed only gets hard at the end. Most of the missions are easy barring the bullshit medal collecting.
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>>167526054
Eggmanland alone bumps that shit up to near the top
>>167526051
Maybe he's using the Sega Activator as the controller
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Did anyone else get invited to a Sega focus gr?? .
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>>167526208
Group
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>>167525573
You sure it couldn't possibly be because you just suck and most people don't?
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>>167526114
Or a DDR pad or something, maybe.
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>>167527043
Could you feasibly beat the Classic trilogy with a DDR pad? Or the Adventure games?
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>>167526923

But that hurts muh feelings...
Okay, I guess it's possible.
Still annoys me though.

I haven't played many platformers outside mario and I couldn't beat donkey kong wii either but that one is generally called hard so I didn't mind.
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>>167527252
Classic: Yes
Adventure: No
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>>167527523
Maybe try Kirby. It's very easily accessible for newcomers and is a ton of fun
If you play them and then say Kirby is too hard I swear to fucking god
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gpccdF7Mzo
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>>167527746
I have played the first kirby 3DS game and couldn't beat a boss near the end so I quit.

Maybe I'm shit at 2D platformers.
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>>167528107
I really think you should stop playing platformers. Because if you can't beat the easiest platforming series in fucking existence, there's no hope for you. Like, I could understand if it was True Arena, but it's not. What the fuck man
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>>167525482
Is this part of a larger thing?
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>>167528107
Tell me which boss, anon.
I can maybe understand if it was Pyribbit, because Pyribbit is frustrating. Not difficult, just really frustrating.
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>>167525463

To clear this up, I genuinely thought that silver sonic was in 1, but I also haven't played the original games in a decade. My bad.

The blue spheres being hard as balls though was talking about 3&K, I'm just retarded apparently.

Difficulty goes 2>1>3&K for me then.
Special zones 3&K>1>2
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It'd be funny if it wasn't for the fact that retards like this guy are who modern publishers appeal to. Do you just suck ass at a game? Don't worry, here's one that will just hold your hand and let you press X to instantly win. Don't forget to buy the DLC!
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>>167528107
Good lord, alright tell me how much time you invest in various platformers you've played.
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>>167528974
Calm down, lad.
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>>167525396
Why is he so pouty?
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>>167528107
You ever complete a Mario?
Any platformers?

What games do you normally play?
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>>167528974

Go fuck yourself.
Just because I'm bad at a single genre doesn't mean I'm retarded.
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>>167529304
No, you're retarded for saying the Classic games are hard and saying that they should be called that all because you're a bad player
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Was she right?
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>>167529508
Yes. It's time for SEGA to move on from Sonic.
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>>167529363

This, I fucking suck at RTS and FPS games, but I don't go around saying they're hard, I'm just bad at them.

I cheated my way through WC3 for the story because I couldn't beat it on the easiest difficulty, RTS games are just not for me.
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>>167529304
You're also retarded because you come into the thread doing near-DSP-tier whining about the games then get upset when everyone expectedly calls you shit at the game. What, were you expecting lavish pity and sympathy? Everyone to go "yeah, don't worry, they're really fucking hard"?
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>>167514527
guess kwhatever never did the request. :(
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>>167529709
it's time for you to move on from this life
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>>167515147

Omochao wasn't talking about Eggman though.
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>>167514523
>Great, now what kind of metal would she listen to?

There's more than one?
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>>167531065
Yeah, Anon. There's heavy, power, death, progressive, etc.
Don't be ignant Anonymous
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Holy fuck, did Sparky finally get banned? What'd he do to get deleted?
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>>167531513
Who is sparky?

I remember hearing that name on the Sonic News Network...
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>>167531513
Exist.
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>>167531687
Well there's that, but specifically, what were his final words?

I feel like it's the end of an era.

>>167523069
I screen capped this just to let you know.

>>167528107
You don't have to quit Sonic, but maybe stick to other generes.
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>>167529508
Of course she was, but it isn't gunna happen as long as people keep going to see stuff like the Emoji movie.
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>>167520704
2 is probably the best game to start off with.

3&K is god tier, but I personally think with mid-level bosses and stage length it is slightly harder to get into.

1 is a game that can only be appreciated with time.
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>>167532064
Something along the lines of "I'm not autistic".
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>>167524553
Just play them over and over from the start.
That's how they are meant to be learned and mastered.
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Hm?

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xth for the cutest echidna you've ever known, Tikal!
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>>167532757
BAD SEGA. BAAAAAAD!
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>>167525663
>Sonic 2 Game Gear

Scrambeled Egg zone is the only Sonic level where I legit admitted defeat and realised I'd hit the wall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJVhAi2hQ7A
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>>167533265
That level had so many tubes you could swear the Space Pirates made it
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>>167532757
The fuck is this
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>>167533470
Sega is exploring using Denuvo for some of its games.
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>>167533470
Denuvo's archive of emails sent to it was "leaked". So now everyone can see what devs and publishers have contacted them out of interest in using Denuvo. There's also a number of people swearing at them for making piracy more difficult, a few saying piracy will eventually win in the end, and a few giving blind praise to the company.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wLYtj_yq8E
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>>167531513
I am not banned.
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>>167534095
I doubt you're actually sparky
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>>167534139
The trip thing is there for a reason. But whatever, I really don't care at the moment.
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>>167534139
The trip that ends on "Rio" had been proven true.

>>167534095
Sparky. You said a website taught you about electrokinesis way back when.

Post it.
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>>167534095

Why'd you delete your earlier post? afraid that you being autistic will become common knowledge?

Protip: it already is.
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>>167534739
I didn't delete it. I guess the mods did for whatever reason.

>>167534579
Post what? A link to the website or ... ? Cause I don't really remember exactly what the website was, if that's what your asking.
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>>167535421
Y'know, when they write your origin story that's going to be a really crappy beginning.
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>>167535421
Yes, a link.

I guess the mod are tired of your shit, these thread always derail when you post your posts.
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>>167535878
That's why I worded that earlier post like "Hi, please stop talking about me, I'm not autistic, Bye" like that. I just wanted to tell everyone to stop talking about me, and then I went back to what I was doing before.
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>>167536270
But.

But that causes attention to you.

Just keeping your mouth shut and letting it die out is how it works.

For example, I brought up you, and then you eventually responded.

Fitting for thread number 666.
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>>167536270
But to get back on the Sonic topic, what I was doing before was watching GameInformer's Super Replay of Sonic '06. Anyone else watching that?
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>>167536270

it's been mentioned before, but if you want people to stop talking about you, don't post.

there were 2 mentions of you before you posted, with 4 replies to your post, you actively made more people talk about you.

That and you said something that people wanted to prove wrong.
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>>167536561
I've played enough 06 and watched people play enough 06 to not want to do either any more.
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>>167524421
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>>167538132
>Sorry that you keep getting the strangest BitF comics, Sonic!
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/stgh/ I have only played Sonic Adventure 2 and fancy feeding my autism. Which should I play next?
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>>167539035
Start with the classic games (1, 2, CD, 3&K), then SA1. Afterwards you can play Heroes, Shadow, and 06, though those are optional. Only one of those I'd recommend is Heroes. Afterwards, try out the Advance trilogy then the Rush duology (Or just Rush, because Rush Adventure is a bit repetitive). Then Unleashed and Colors, and THEN GEnerations. Lost World is optional
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>>167539035
Adventure 1 I guess.
Or you could try giving Heroes a shot.

Or try a 2D game.
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>>167539156
>>167539209
Cheers, I was thinking about giving the classics a look in. Due to limited funds, I'll probably be only able to get one of the 2D classics this week, which one would you recommend? Start from the beginning at 1 or?
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>>167539576
3&K
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>>167539576
Start at 1 if you want, but I'd recommend 2. It's just an overall better game than 1 and not as long as 3&K
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>>167539576
1 doesn't really hold up and Marble Zone is a killer.

Also I think there's a link in the OP pastebin for some downloads.
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>>167533019
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>>167539576
>Due to limited funds
Just emulate them, Genesis emulators run on literal toasters.
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hey /sthg/

is everything good?
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>>167539748
>>167539785
>>167540147
>>167541137
Thank you for your advice /sthg/!
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>>167542081
Quick protip: don't ever actually buy a classic Sonic game unless it's either on the original hardware from your local used games store, or it's Sonic CD on Steam. This is because all the other classic Sonic games on Steam are literally just ROMs running on an emulator. Sonic CD is the only one that was actually remastered on Steam. 1 and 2 also have remasters, but they're mobile exclusive.
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>>167542534
Oh that is good to know, I was going to get them from Steam. Thank you anon.
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>>167540505
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At least it's not Cream
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>>167543918
Cutie
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>Meanwhile in an alternate universe.
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>>167545482
Lewd.
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Where are all the Black Arms posts? It's thread 666.
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toasting this again for science

http://www.strawpoll.me/12265208
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>>167545864
>>
Would you?
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>>167545701
I know some guys on /trash/ who would enjoy these.
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>>167547735
GHOST BLOWJOB
WOO WOO
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>>167547735
great

now i got another lewd thing to draw in swapdoodle...
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>>167547735
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9QT8czqFno
BRLLGHHHH HBRLLLL
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>>167547735
>ghost tikal will never give you a succ nor kissu
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>Page 8
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>>167544381
What goes up must come down
Yeah my feet don't touch the ground
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>>167524421
looks like that purple bitch from solatrobo or some shit
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>>167550509
Yet
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>>167551359
My feet don't touch the ground.
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>>167552560
Official x OC will always be worst pairing.
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>>167552560
>this bitch is now shitting up based Mighty
Nuke her off the planet already.
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>>167552621
This

>>167552838
Warned you
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>>167552560
eat fresh
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>>167553128
I don't get it. What's the connection between her and Subway?
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>>167553203

She's fat.
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>>167553203
She and her boyfriend made a certain comic that is fucking disgusting and terrible, and her shitsona is a subway worker in said comic
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>>167553563
What was the comic about? I'm curious
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>>167553717
You really dont want to know
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>>167553373
Disgusting
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>>167553717
Shit
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>>167553789
>>167553812
Was it that Subway pic with Spyro? I'm really curious
I've witnessed the horrors of Unistar this can't faze me
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>>167553951
No it isnt
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This place is really becoming a slow shitty broken record.
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>>167554082
That should change when we get new shit to talk about.
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>>167554082
>becoming

And as the record repeats so do we when we complain about things being the same shit different day.
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>>167553373
So does this slut just sleep with everyone?
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Take 3 of your favorite characters, & put them in a team. What would their chemistry be?
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>>167554392
I guess they would get along alright.
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>>167554392
>Bunnie, Omega, Clove
Can't really come up with anything, although I could see Clove and Bunnie getting into arguments about doing the strategically correct thing and doing the "right" thing, with Omega wanting to take the direct approach. You could probably have a connecting thread of past tragedies shaping who they are now, contrasting Bunnie's lack of a blood family with Clove having only her sister to rely on and nobody else seemingly
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>>167554392
>Snively
>Perfect Chaos
>Sally
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>>167554769
>Snively constantly trying to use Perfect Chaos as a weapon and Sally trying desperately to appeal to the goodness in him
I like it
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>>167554392
>Sonic
>Metal
>Shard
Man, I really like Sonics. I can't imagine Metal could stand being in a team with them. Sonic and Shard would probably have some fun friendly rival chemistry.
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>>167554835
>Sally bakes him cookies to cheer him up
>He goes THUNDAH and eviscerates everything
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Open your Fart
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>>167554392
Metal
Omega
Eggman
Well, if it wasn't for the fact that Omega hates Eggman and everything he's created, it would probably have worked out pretty well.
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>>167555226
ON TOP OF ANGEL ISLAND
ALL COVERED IN EMERALDS
I LOST MY POOR CHAO
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>>167554392
>Sonic
>Shadow
>Blaze
The two Hedgehogs try to one up each other with Blaze sighing at their bullshit.
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>>167554879
A team of fakers
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Bring it on nerds! I only got all rings in 2/4 stages so this should be easy to beat.

Lets have a spinball party. I actually quite like the game
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>>167552560

Cute boobwolf
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>>167557034
fuck off subwayfaggot
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>>167557034
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What kind of gaming equipment would Sonic use
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>>167556241
ILL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS
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>>167557282
So just what the hell was this suppose to mean?

>>167558161
Motion controls, but he goes too fast.
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>they found away to introduce the dlc costumes in the show
best writers
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>>167558372
The hologram of Metal Sonic stepping on an animal scared the rest of the animals away. When you destroy the Metal Sonic Projector and robot teleporter in a stage, a good future is made where the animals are less scared and more free to roam around without being stepped on by Metal Sonic.
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>>167543918
the virgin killer sweater meme and the butt window hot pants is fucking rad, i tell ya
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>>167558884
I want to go step on little animals.
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>>167559852
That's mean and probably illegal, anon.
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>>167558592
boy am i happy the WiiU is buried to the ground

never again
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>>167558592
I'll be honest, despite how shitty the DLC is, I think they look pretty neat.
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>>167560545
You act like Sega is a company that regularly thinks straight and that this was not just a bad accident.
>>167560609
I use them some times when I mess around with Boom but otherwise I prefer the original looks.
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>>167560545
Oh come on, anon. The WiiU at least has some good games.
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>>167557034
An excellent boobwolf
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>>167560707
i'm still waiting for Wonderful 102witch
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>>167557034
Go home, Kayla-na
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>>167560481
We should call the cops on Metal Sonic
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>>167560681
I wish the lights were colored in the show.
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>>167561270
I wish the game and the show had better lighting.
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>>167561224
Or better yet, get that one blue hero to take him down.
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>>167561414
*blue rat
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>>167561414
This one? Didn't seem to go so well the last time he tried.
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>>167561912
So is Bass the Shadow in his respective series or Metal Sonic?
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Question: is there, by chance, a mod for SA2 (PC version) where you can import levels from Heroes into it?

I always felt like SA2, while a flawed game on the whole, got it right by having tight, responsive controls for the speed stages. I don't understand why Sega switched to shitty-ass engines in Heroes, Shadow, and 06 where it feels like you're running on ice, the jumping isn't as natural, and the homing attack is imprecise and sends you flying off cliffs. Don't fix what ain't broken.
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>>167562006
Being Shadow would imply that he's not evil, Anon.
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>>167562006
Bass was actually forgotten the fuck out canonically

just look at his Wiki page after MM10

not even a mention or appearance in the MMX series
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>>167562194
>not even a mention or appearance in the MMX series
Neither for Mega Man, Proto Man, Roll, Rush, Beat, Tango, or any of the robot masters. It's almost as if X takes place a century later or something.
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>>167562429
>any of the Robot Masters
but Cutman was in X8
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>>167561618
I TOLD YOU
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>>167541189
>Quills aren't raised

Fucking shit heads can't do anything right
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>Listening to Griffith in black knight
Man, he fucking had it perfectly, it really is a shame that was his last game.

roger and drummond fags fuck off
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>>167565137
>being a diaper wearing Griffithbabby
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>>167565137
>>167565190
>voice actor debates
Please stop.
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wake up
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>>167572682
CAN'T WAKE UP
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>We aren't getting any new big Sonic info until March
>It'll only be for Project 17
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>>167572924
Hey man I can't wait for them to announce adventure sonic
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>>167572970
It won't happen because Ryan won't get paid.
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>>167573056
implying roger won't do it and sega wont piss everyone off
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>>167573102
Well, they did let the Modern voices for Tails and Eggman voice the classic versions so at this point I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>167572924
I doubt anything big for Project 2017 gets talked about until E3.
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Post characters you find underrated.
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>>167573167
It's totally different. For one, Mike Pollock will forever be eggman, and bristo is dead regardless so whaddya gonna do. Who cares about tails.

People will fucking flip shit if they do adventure sonic and don't get drummond. I mean go fucking bananas. My other speculation would be Boom sonic, as stupid as it is. If they fucking polished boom sonic and made combat fun, think DMC but obviously less difficult, then I wouldn't give a shit. Either way, if it's a new sonic, it'll be adventure and piss everyone on the planet off because no drummond, or boom sonic.
>>167573235
Wonder whos conference it will be at. Maybe their own booth? Probably fucking Nintendo because Sega doesn't want to advertise the game as good.

But when was the last time a main Sonic title was revealed at e3? Fucking 06? Who knows.

>>167573313
pic related, coolest character, should be getting way more attention now that he's back.
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>>167572924
I doubt the news we'll get about 2017 will be any kinds of big. They wouldn't want 2017 taking any attention away from Mania before it releases. Or at least that's what they've been doing with the different Sonics since Boom.

Also, we'll probably get big news about Mania either at the same time or before because they have to release it at some fucking point soon.
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>>167573636

>Metal
>Not Mecha
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>>167573794
I want S3&K fags to leave.
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>>167573636
>pic related
>coolest character
>implying
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>Genesis hero has been the best arc in years
>3 issues in archie is going to drop Sonic

Good fucking riddance. Let Tyson Hesse do that shit, at least he gives a fuck. Fucking Archie always had like 10 different fucking stories going on, why can't it just be one fucking cool story instead of a gay mishmash? I mean seriously, it's like you would be getting in to the arc and then the next issue is some fucking chaotix shit and you have to wait weeks for the story to continue.

Fuck.
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>>167575071
>some fucking chaotix shit
The Chaotix universe arc was better than whatever is going on in the main comic.
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https://strawpoll.com/yazd9gy
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>>167577159
>Shadow the Hedgehpg
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Wrok bump!
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>>167547735
Of course.
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>>167547735
not that ghost, no
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Is Sonic cool?
>>
I ain't played a sonic game in years, I might play Heroes for the first time since like 2006. My dirty confession is that back I got got games pretty fuckin rarely during the PS2 era and the like, I played each individual game a lot. Had 100+ hours on Sonic Heroes, I always liked it more than people gave it credit for desu. I remember the level design being pretty fun and it was pretty bug free, kinda a rare thing back then for Sonic.

Anyone else have fond memories of Heroes, has time made people more kind to it? I wonder how its held up, I might emulate it later today. Still got my original case/manual for it, brings back some memories. I remember the final boss music made me fucking jump out the window.
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>>167581831
Pastebin links has a download for the PC version.

It's how I'm playing it.
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>>167581964
I didn't even know there was a PC version of the game. I was just going to emulate it on Dolphin since that emulator is incredibly accurate. I'll try the PC version for shits and giggles though.
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>>167581831
Heroes is underrated for sure. It had a nice arcadey feel to it.
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>>167581831
>has time made people more kind to it?
...No, I would say the opposite happened, actually.
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>>167581413
He's super cool! And super cute.
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>>167575071
Yes, how dare a comic with continuity do different stories that focus on different characters instead of rehashing the same shit over and over

By any chance have you ever read another comic in your life?
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>>167581831
Go play Unleashed, Colors, and Gens my man
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>>167581413
i hear he's way past cool
>>
YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE COMICS
WHERE ARE THE COMICS EGG-MAN
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>>167575071

If the Chaotix story wasn't there, you still would have to wait weeks; they're two separate comic lines that have an issue come out once a month.
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>>167584435

dead forever
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>>167581964
Dolphin says the ISO is invalid.
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>>167584883
That isn't the ISO for the Gamecube version, of course it's invalid. It's the PC version, go into the damn files.
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>>167584958
I'm fucking retarded
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>>167585025
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>>167585075
Everyone started somewhere, anon.
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>>167585215
That's true, but still a little frustrating since I already said it's the PC version.

Regardless, welcome back. The pastebin also has the PC downloads of Adventure DX, Riders, and this neat collection I just downloaded.

http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sonic_Mega_Collection
There are all the Genesis games, as well as the Game Gear Titles and, for some reason, Ristar.

Also if you're into kart racers, I recommend Racing Transformed.
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well I found some fucking shitty thing I did back when the Worlds unite crossover pissed me off by having too much shit going on at once so it pissed away it's own potential.

All it had to do was handle the Sonic/Megaman thing again, except across the various sonic/megaman franchises, so for example Megaman X and Silver's future could technically be Elf-Wars period and it'd be neat since nobody has actually depicted the Elf Wars before (and you could imply Dr.Weil and Eggman Nega are working together), Classic Eggman and Wily bromance again to beat a fusion of E-robot Sigma and Megaman X Sigma, and something like pic related possibly just so we could get something like a gofundme/petition going amongst the hardcore autists to get Megaman Legends 3 out. I mean, Robbie Rotten got his cancer cured by people meming We Are Numer One with his gofundme in the youtube discription, so anything is possible.

I'm still mad we didn't get a top kek joke in the off panels like Sonic X and Megaman NT being crossed over (because Ian doesn't have the legal right to do anything with either, since Sega treats Sonic X as literal cancer and NT publishing rights is owned by Viz Media)
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>>167585617
This sounds absolutely retarded and even worse than what happened
>muh Legends 3
fuck off
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>>167529709
>it's time for Sega to move on from a literal cash cow

I mean, I'd love for Sonic Team to be able to work on other IPs again, but come on man. It's just business.
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>>167586602
The only way their other IPs are even slightly relevant in the public eye is when they shove Sonic, Puyo or Yakuza into it. And sometimes even that doesn't work (see Samba De Amigo Wii)
Their only other IP that isn't dead in a ditch is Shinmoo and that's definitely not coming until 2019 at best

They've dug their own grave and now they gotta lie in it.
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Archie updated their subscriptions page. Still no Sonic.
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>>167543248
>tfw finding qt Tikal cosplayers takes a miracle
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>>167587430
Deader than deaderest
Betting that people are gonna be asking for May solicits and they're gonna be sitting there nervously shifting their gaze getting sweatier by the minute
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>>167587770
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>>167587430
It's dead. Only reason Sonic was included in April was because they already finished the covers. 290 was the last issue. Watch as future issues go to n/a for release date
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>>167588257
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>>167575071
>>Genesis hero has been the best arc in years
But that's wrong you fucking retard. Also judging by this post you seem to think that Universe and the main book are the same comic
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>>167586475
Depends on how it is implimented. It'd be much easier to handle a clusterfuck of JUST Sonic and Megaman instead of EVERY SEGA AND CAPCOM IP AT ONCE because all you'd have to do is match a Sonic series to a Megaman series and, i dunno, have 4/8 issues dedicated to minor ones like Boom/Legends (the Boom Comics were ongoing at the time) or Megaman X/Silver (the Universe comics) and the major seller of Classic series being a 12 parter like Worlds Collide (split between Sonic and Megaman Archie at about 8 each)

>MUH LEGENDS 3
Hey, any exposure is good exposure. Let's say that Boom/Legends happened, at least we'd have SOMETHING in comic form instead of FUCKING NOTHING. If it did well money wise... well, that's too optimistic for a hypothetical scenario.

have a stupid thing, because Boom Eggman and Tiesel interacting reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfIxMNm7roU
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Sonic the Snowman
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>>167589242
Sonic the rednosed reindeer
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>>167577159
>Boom games and Storybook shit
>no Advance games
You fucked up kiddo
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>>167581831
Seeing the commercial on TV had me hyped.

I enjoyed it well enough when it came out.

I've enjoyed it less and less, seeing more shit wrong with it, each time I go back and play it again.

>glossy character models
>slippery movement
>characters won't shut the fuck up
>Special Stages are bullshit to get to and play
>grinding made into some automated "spam B" bullshit
>to actually play as the Flying characters you have to trap your teammates
>combat is needlessly tedious
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>>167591062
Honestly the worst thing Heroes introduced was enemy health bars. That was something that was never needed, but at least Heroes and Shadow had ways to take care of enemies quickly. 06 was wretched with that shit
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>>167588386
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>>167591630
Eh, I think that ruining grinding is a more far-reaching problem, that still plagues Generations.
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>>167588360
Eh, I'd like to remain positive untill we get confirmation of cancellation from the horse's mouth.
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Here's my take on the Classic vs Modern debate:

Classic sonic was all about the conservation of momentum in order to surpass certain obstacles, such as the loop or the corkscrew. This is the one aspect that made Sonic Utopia so popular; it made you feel like you were on a rollercoaster of sorts.

Modern Sonic gameplay, however, trivializes this concept; the ability to instantly accelerate to top speed with Boost all but eradicates it entirely.

However, that is not to say that either gameplay is better than the other. If the Legacy Gameplay style in Pic Related was present in modern sonic games, I could foresee some people having trouble grasping the physics engine, especially since Modern Sonic levels are designed around reaction time.

In short, both styles of gameplay are fun for their own reasons, but interpret speed differently. Classic Sonic games focus on maintaining momentum, whereas Modern Sonic games rely on agility and maneuverability to quickly adapt to the stage.
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>>167592295
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>>167593861
>Implying that most people wouldn't just jump over the ramp anyway.
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>>167594430
Got the pic from a previous thread. didn't make it myself.
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>>167594063
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>>167593861
The modern games feel more like a Rhythm game, where you have to react to the level by pressing the right button to correspond to the right object/obstacle within the level.

There's a set way to do the level, and you're rewarded by doing it in that specific way. Repeated playthroughs help you memorize the level, and take the ideal path more successfully. It reminds me of a song in Guitar Hero.

I think that the worst aspect of the modern games, though, is that they need such a loaded control scheme to pull this off, the levels are plagued with bottomless pits, and they still use the lives/continues system.

If you have limited lives/continues, then bottomless pits simply feel cheap. One or the other has to go.

I think it would also be ideal to streamline the controls. Race the Sun is a game that immediately reminded me of the "reliance on agility and quick reflexes" of the modern games, but executed with really simple controls. It also mitigates the bottomless pits/lives and continues conundrum by having neither.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDLfSg3YwVQ
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Meanwhile on bizzaro /sthg/...
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>>167594737
Good point.

Though, the memorization of the best paths is also present within the classic games, and both instances are to increase replayability by finding the quickest route to complete the stage. By the same token, the Modern series also has forks in the path that allow shortcuts to be taken or bonuses to be found.

But admittedly the one thing the Classic games have (S3K & CD specifically) that the Modern games don't are areas and paths that exist only for the secrets found therein, e.g. the Special Rings and Robot Generators/Metal Sonic Holograms respectively. Meanwhile, Red Rings/ Sun/Moon medals in the modern series are often along the aforementioned shortcuts and alternate paths, and often require less exploration and more skill to obtain.

But I can definitely agree that Modern Stages, as exciting and fast-paced as they are, are often very linear and designed to be completed quickly. That said, if more exploration was to be integrated into the modern series, how could it be done?
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Https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2UacsLLWW4
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>>167596781
Link's broken, man. what was it?
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>>167596781
Wait, lets try that again
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2UlacsLLWW4
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>>167596982
Wrong link try the new one I posted, sorry about that.
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>>167596645
Regarding the classic games, they also have the benefit of being a physics playground. Different paths can offer different opportunities for tricks. Stringing massive jumps with bounce combos and the like.

>if more exploration was to be integrated into the modern series, how could it be done?
I think you'd have to abandon some significant aspect of it to pull that off. The problem that the Boost gameplay has over the Classic gameplay, is that while the latter is able to seamlessly integrate speedrunning and exploration, the former only really lends itself to speedrunning.

If we wanted more "3D Sonic exploration" gameplay, I think you'd have to bite the bullet and go the route of GHPA2/Utopia. Do what the Classics did (exploration and speed seamlessly integrated), and translate it to 3D. There was an excuse for Sonic Adventure to not really pull that of in 1998, but nowadays the fans themselves are managing to execute it just fine. Imagine that with an actual budget.

But the Boost gameplay is still fun, and I think worth keeping around, in the event that it was "scrapped" for more GHPA2/Utopia stuff. Rather than scrapping it, though, I think "demoting" it would be better. Make it a semi-annual series of racing games. It's already focused wholly on speed, so add some more characters, some multiplayer, and call it a day. Shit would be a fucking blast.
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So I got bored and decided to play Fallout 4 for the first time. Made Eggman and got started on my adventure.
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>>167597491
Without a doubt.

Though I think Sonic Adventure 2 (Battle) did something with exploration, and not just the forced kind in Knuckles/Rouge's stages. The Chao Crates, the 20 animals per stage, the mystic melody altars, those kinds of stuff.

Though you're missing the one thing that would make any sonic game a million times better: The Chao Garden. Add that in Project 2017, and it'll be a fucking system seller. Imagine the Gamecube's chao garden and Advance 1/2's tiny chao garden, fused into one on the Switch.
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>>167598116
Oh good. I thought it was plastic
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>>167598105
SA2 definitely did take the time to incorporate exploration incentives into the stages, and I do give it praise for that, but it still feels distinct from the "speed" parts. You're either going fast, or you're exploring. You're not using speed as a means to explore. It's what 3K got so right that I'd love to see implemented again.

Chao is definitely what keeps me coming back to SA2B after all these years, but I feel like it could do with some improvements (having to spend hours in the garden just for them to reach adulthood is the biggest flaw that I'm having more and more trouble overlooking).
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>>167598105
>that pic
Could Chao actually jump on the ball?
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>>167597801
I believe someone did the exact same a while back when it first released.

Damn, I really want a proper Eggman spinoff game.
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>>167598497
I always thought 3K had designated speed and exploration areas, like those hidden alcoves in Carnival Night and Marble Garden that came up when the level transitioned to more of a platforming section. The transition between the two didn't feel like too much of an interruption to the gameplay, but more of a variation that required thought and patience to get past.

But I don't recall speed being used to get to said areas in the classic games, likely because you could react so quickly to the level in front of you when sprinting. This is the biggest issue that Utopia fixes, and is more or less the game's foundation. But the fact that sonic was so hard to control around turns put a huge dent in it, in my opinion.

As for your point about chao, grinding for animals, Chaos Drives, and rings was doubtlessly one of my biggest gripes about it. You'd think they'd come up with some sort of zoo to help you out with animals. Speaking of Chaos Drives, I wonder why they haven't come back recently; after all, they were a rather abundant source of energy that eggman could use for his machines.
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>>167599258
Yeah, that's where I got the idea. Eggman is my favorite sonic character so I thought I'd do the same now that I'm playing it.
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>>167599784
You're right that not every bit of the stages had equal measures of them, but it overall blends them more seamlessly. And this is true in 1, 2, and CD as well.

Paths are separated vertically. The faster you approach a ramp, the higher you go. Due simply to those two facts, when you approach a ramp more quickly, you're able to reach a more rewarding path. In this case, speed is facilitating platforming.
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>>167533019
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>>167601096
Exactly. I just can't remember any specific instance of that.
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>>167599784
>But I don't recall speed being used to get to said areas in the classic games
Did you mean to say "classic", there?
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>>167557489
why does that look like keala to me
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Somewhat. I couldn't remember any specific examples that required momentum off a ramp or such to access.

Though now I can see that one ramp 3/4 through Ice Cap Act 2 that led to a whole room of rings and a Special Ring as one, but that's the only one I can recall.
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>>167602283
Shit. Meant to reply to >>167601876
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>>167602283
There's at least a few areas in Hydro City like that.
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>>167575071
>Genesis hero has been the best arc in years
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I forgot how funny the Sonic Boom show can be. Picked it back up, on episode 25 of season 1. Pretty cozy show.
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>>167601548
Some examples I could find:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AK3n-srj5E
Chemical Plant at 4:30
Chemical Plant at 4:45
Angel Island at 7:20
Collision Chaos at 8:35
Hill Top at 9:05
Chemical Plant at 9:45
Ice Cap at 10:02
Star Light at 21:25
Hydrocity at 59:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4IdvyJRRH4
Hydrocity at 4:15
Hyrdocity at 6:20
Marble Garden at 8:30
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>>167575071
>Genesis hero has been the best arc in years
I believed you mean Mega Drive?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNzZuV9QCeU&t=6s

New Bumblekast

Ian blames lack of interest in the female-centric stories on sexism. Uh, okay?
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>>167606890
That's just fucking stupid.
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>>167606890
You have got to be trolling...
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>>167607242
46:19
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>>167606890
Don't do this, Ian. You so staunchly refused to touch social justice topics on BK.
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Great, now Ian's an SJW. Get ready for an influx of faggots and trannies into the comic
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>>167606890
Maybe if the female characters actually had a fucking character. Sally and Nicole have been garbage since the reboot and Bunnie's character can be summed up as "the nice one" with pretty much zero character development throughout the entirety of the comic. Why does Blaze sell? Because she has a more interesting character than pretty much any other female characters.

I mean to an extent the female characters are let down by Sega's treatment of them. In the games, Amy is an annoying shill stalker, Rouge is walking fan service and Cream is a non-entity. And for non-comic fans the most they'll know about Sally is that she's Sonic's Mary Sue girlfriend. But it doesn't help that the aforementioned characters really haven't had any decent development in the comics since the reboot, so even comic fans don't really care.
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>>167607732
Honestly they should kill off Nicole and Bunnie, maybe that would give Sally SOMETHING, or at least thin the case. Not like you'd lose anything by getting rid of them
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>>167606890
I think it's just the clientele that buys Sonic. A lot of young boys don't want to read a comic about Amy and Blaze and whichever way you slice it more young boys will read Sonic than girls do.

This is obviously adverse to here, where the girl arcs get praised en masse.

I mean, sexism in the way that young boys don't want to read about girls mainly in dresses fighting, sure, we should get on that. Women are great and all when done well. Same as men.

But to say your fanbase just don't like the girls cause they're sexist is kinda offensive to your fanbase.

I'm guessing he means the former, he seems like a good man.
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>>167607723
>muh slippery slope
Calm down.
I'm assuming Bumblekast is his personal podcast and I'd like to give him the credit of not being dumb enough to push personal opinions into professional work.
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>>167607908
*Thin the cast
Actually, you could use it as a catalyst to get rid of the FFs. Kill Bunnie and Nicole, this causes Sally to be overwhelmed by guilt and she disbands the team and goes back to being a regular princess. Rotor stays in Mobotropolis or gives up and goes back to his father, and Antoine goes back to being a royal guard. There, I fixed it
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>>167607723
>franchise about a diver and multi-racial group of friends all working together to take down an evil white male capitalist
>not SJW to begin with
Why are you even here?
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>>167607732
I'm just sort of baffled at his logic, he seems to think like Alan Moore in that the only people who buy comics are little boys with power fantasies rather than the clearly sizable number of female Sonic fans. Does his think Antoine on the cover would make the kids go 'Wow! What a bad-ass French dude, gnarly brah"

>>167607949
But then wouldn't girls buy the female centric issues? Why don't they like them? Is there anything wrong with boys not liking girls who fight in dresses? I just find it a little baffling.
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>>167607732
Well, the thing is though, how can we make a story centering on one of the female characters who isn't Blaze? The other female characters just aren't "main starred protagonist" materials such as Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, or Eggman. Same can be said with some "uninteresting" males like Charmy, Big, Mighty or Omega. How can we make a story centering them if nobody cares about them?
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>>167608238
Actually build them up in the main comic instead of keeping them as boring non-entities. This isn't just a case of Sonic fans not being interested in the girls, this is established comic fans who don't care about the girl-centric arcs. Why? Because even in the main comic they're simply uninteresting.
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>>167608373
Or you could do what I said here >>167607908
, at least with the worst girls in the main cast
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>>167608238
>Omega

But Omega is one of the best characters in the book. Also Big has that slight meme value.

Also, let's not forget people getting hyped about Honey, sales are one thing, but surely discussion matters too.
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>>167608410
Not good enough, you need to kill off everybody that isn't Sonic or Eggman. Everyone's tired of Sonic's shitty friends and nowhere is that worse than in the comic. People are here to see Sonic, not one of deviantart's OCs whine about their troubled family life.
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>>167608142
Girls would buy the female centric issues more, sure. But if less girls are buying Sonic overall then what can you do.
Nothing wrong with the boys, just society as a whole really. Grown up men and women shouldn't get their panties in a twist over kids cartoon characters being a gender or acting or what have you.
That being said kids cartoons aren't the platforms to push topics which should be non-issues but because of America and shit whatever.

I mean if Ian wants to push a series made by somewhat backwards japs towards girls, more power to him, but saying it's sexist that they aren't being bought as much as SONIC AND SHADOW issues for example is a bit like ok what.

Ah well, man does what he do.
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>>167606890
Any other interesting tidbits?
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>>167608757
Listen to the darn thing, I'm not your mother.
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>>167608238
>Omega
>Uninteresting
Delete this post and never make another one.
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>>167608094
Honestly I kind of wish Bunnie's character was overhauled with the reboot. Instead of basically being her pre-reboot self, she could be something more unique. She could still be emotionally driven ,just replace her kindness and compassion with more of a hotheaded and reckless personality, maybe even a bit of selfishness for good measure. And scrap the marriage to Antoine, that shit's long since played out
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>>167608954
To be fair, he did use quotation marks.
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>>167608479
When I said "uninteresting", I meant I don't think he can carry the story by himself if he's the main star. His dynamic with Team Dark is what made him interesting.
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>>167607723
Maybe it's for the best for it to end... God dammit, no one's safe from being corrupted huh.
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I doubt Ian means "all men are sexist pigs, rah rah," or anything like that. I think he means that boys are usually less interested in issues with girls on it. And honestly, it's not that untrue. i mean, little boys usually don't care about "girly girls" fighting, & would much rather see characters like Knuckles, or Shadow.

Ah well, the female arcs are still damn good,so it's nothing to make a big deal over.

>>167608583
Screw that senpai, just kill off every character that isn't Eggman, & let him be the star of the series. There, problem solved.
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>>167609669
>Screw that senpai, just kill off every character that isn't Eggman and the Egg Bosses, & let him be the star of the series. There, problem solved.
FTFY
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>>167609669
Let's kill off Eggman too! the story can be about the scenery. That way nobody can say it's underdeveloped because it never had a personality to begin with!
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>>167609594
>>167607723

Oh, shut the fuck up already.
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>>167609781
Is it bad that I wouldn't mind this, since I love the scenery in the Sonic series?

>>167609772
I would actually kinda like that.
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>>167610135
>I would actually kinda like that.
Same. I'd kinda like to see an Egg Boss comic. Maybe covering what an average day is like in each of their bases, or having them play off each other
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>>167609669
Boys have no problems watching stories with important girl characters, the problem is too many writers use "she's a girl" as the extent of their character.

Why do boys like Sonic, Knuckles, Shadow, etc.? Because they're badass and get shit done. Why is Blaze so popular? Because she's badass and gets shit done. Why was Sally so popular in the cartoon? Because she was a badass and got shit done without overshadowing Sonic. Why are other female characters, and post-reboot Sally, not as popular? Because they're almost always reduced to passive and/or annoying side character roles where they're dependent on the male characters to justify their existence, let alone their presence in the story.

I mean hell, I grew up watching ReBoot as a kid. The show had not one, not two, not three, but four women, including one villain, who got shit done without making the male characters look like useless tools. It's a careful balance in terms of writing, but it is possible to accomplish without acting like the main audience is sexist.
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>>167610421
>Because they're almost always reduced to passive and/or annoying side character roles where they're dependent on the male characters to justify their existence, let alone their presence in the story.
Post-reboot Sally isn't tied to any guy, but Bunnie definitely is. Honestly, scrap the marriage to Antoine and overhaul her personality to be like a hothead or something and you're good
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>>167610584
Sally's problem is less being tied to a guy and more being totally incompetent. If Sally was allowed to make plans that worked and be a good leader in her own right without Sonic swooping in to save the day, people would appreciate her more.
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>>167610584
Only thing that her marriage restricts are her pursuing other love interests. It hasn't stopped from interacting with other characters.
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>>167610681
>and more being totally incompetent

One mission of hers failed (not to mention against the big bad of the series). I wouldn't call that incompetent.
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>>167609669
Do little boys buy comics in that great a quantity though? Also, is it bad that little girls (in my experience) aren't so keen on action films starring overly buff guys blowing off people's heads? I love those sort of films as a bloke, but I'm also quite at home watching films featuring female leads and cutesy shit like Sonic.

And actually, isn't the real problem that boys don't see femininity interesting? Like, in order to get boys on board you have to make the females act 'male'. Which is probably what Ian is getting at, however, can't it also be said that 'feminine' activities are really cool as well? Shouldn't we view the ability to give birth to be as interesting or cool as cutting a dude's head off or throwing two stick grenades at once?

However, this is a Sonic thread, we shouldn't really talk about this sort of stuff.

What sort of ice cream would a Sonic character eat?
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>>167610739
But she's still tied to him as part of her character. Makes her boring. Then again, given that her entire character is "nice" she was always going to be that without a major overhaul. Giving her any kind of different personality, be it shy, hotheaded, sarcastic, naive, or nihilistic or anything else, would go a long way towards making her an actual character. Fuck, I could probably write up an entire character biography using one of those
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>>167610739
This. She's already had several good stories that didn't involve Antoine and she was just about to get another before the hiatus. Stop trying to force your shitty idea.
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>>167610918
Doesn't change the fact that those stories were good in spite of her, because the characters around her had actual personalities. In this franchise, "nice" isn't enough to make a character unique
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>>167610421
Being dependent on a guy isn't a problem with the female characters in the comic, tho. Amy, Bunnie & Sally don't really over rely on the male characters, as we've seen them do shit without them.

>>167610918
He's a shitter from /trash/. Report, ignore, etc.

>>167610897
It's already canon that Amy's favorite food is soft-serve ice cream, Tails would probably eat Mint. Not sure about the others.
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>>167611187
Just because someone doesn't like a character doesn't mean they're a shitposter
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>>167611213
Except these faggots have literally admitted to posting this type of stuff, just to derail the thread. And they've been doing this shit for the last few months. They are shitposters, anon
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>>167611213
It's the same argument that's been bandied about many times before, when they know that they'll get the exact same reaction (which is what they want in the first place). It's shitposting, anon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gpccdF7Mzo
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>>167611342
I know, they should really stop posting about the comics. And this podcast should be evidence that "Senpai" should never be let near the games, because he'd turn them into an Anthony Burch-tier SJWfest.
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>>167611187
I think Sticks would like one of those half-coconut ice creams. So she can make them into traps.
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>>167611187
I'm not necessarily referring to literally being dependent on a guy in the storyline, I'm more referring to their characters being based on how they interact with the male protagonist instead of bringing something interesting in terms of character dynamics on their own. Going back to ReBoot, Bob and Dot had their own areas of expertise that their characters focused on without stepping on each others' toes or one being reliant on the other. Sonic and Sally had a similar dynamic in the cartoon, but post-reboot Sally really hasn't been interesting at all. Amy's character literally revolves around Sonic, Cream is Amy's best friend, and Bunnie is everyone's best friend, and none of them contribute anything that isn't reliant on their dynamic with another character.
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>>167611572
>he'd turn them into an Anthony Burch-tier SJWfest.

Whoa there anon, I think you're going overboard.
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>>167611572
This. The comic is written by an SJW cuck. Thankfully it's getting cancelled soon so this disease won't touch the games.
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>>167611572
>>167611774
Fuck off back to /pol/
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>>167611746
>and Bunnie is everyone's best friend, and none of them contribute anything that isn't reliant on their dynamic with another character.
And you're all gonna call me a shitposter, but the fact that this is true makes her uninteresting to a lot of people, and changing her up would make her more appealing. Wouldn't be the first time that changing something about a character made them more appealing to people, just look at Amy's entire character. When she was changed or at least tweaked with to be able to do stuff without Sonic, people started to like her. You can do the same with Bunnie. Cut the marriage, give her a personality, and now you have a likable character. A fucking cyborg rabbit with an actual personality that fits an action oriented series could be cool as shit
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>>167611947
>Cut the marriage

Everytime.
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>>167611947
Bunnie did cool shit while married preboot.
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>>167612125
It really does nothing for her as of now, all it is is a carryover from the pre-reboot kept for the sake of keeping things familiar. It doesn't really have a purpose.
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Are there any scans of Udon's Sonic artbook?
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>>167612231
>marriage has no potential for drama or character development

This is what tells me you to disregard you on this topic.
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>storyfags
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>>167612565
Not with their current lovey dovey personalities they aren't. The options would be to change their personalities so we can have romance drama, which nobody fucking wants, not after the shitshow it became in the pre-reboot, or nix it altogether
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>>167612125
>>167612225
Just ignore them already, ffs.

>>167611746
And that is something I like to see them do more. Showing off what the other characters are good at, instead of how they're related to other characters. I'd like to see some characters like Amy, or Sally go on a solo adventure in Universe, or something.
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>>167612672
Well, I like lovey dovey stuff
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>>167598914
>he homeschooled his chao
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>>167612702
Anyways moving on from this comics discussion, what are some of the worst Sonic fanfics you guys ever read? Lewd, or non-lewd.
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>>167612903
the comics
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>>167612721
Good for you, but it has no place in Sonic.
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>>167612903
The comics
What did you expect with a question like that?
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I'm pretty glad I dropped the comics at this point.
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>>167612903
They're all bad. There's no such thing as a good fanfic. Anyone who writes fanfics lacks talent by default, since they lack any sort of creativity. Same goes for OCs, and especially fics with OCs.
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>>167612672
OR, or something happens that challenges their relationship and they have to work to overcome it, at the same time further fleshing out their personalities and their dynamic. Not everyone has to be an ass for their to be drama.
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>come to /vg/
>feels like I'm on /co/
dunno why i bother
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>>167613089
Surely there has to be one average to good fan fic that exists somewhere?
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>/sthg/ is having a moody period again
Guess I'll dip until this blows over.
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>>167613141
Nobody wants to fucking read about relationship drama.
>>167613197
Nope. Also fancomics fall under that same category of being absolute shit 100% of the time
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>>167613197
the comics are occasionally average to good.
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>>167613271
>Nobody wants to fucking read about relationship drama.

What was this whole argument then?
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>>167612932
>>167612963
>>167613089

You guys are just hilarious.

>>167613197
Good fanfics do exist, but /trash/ is shitposting again.

Okay, post your favorite characters!
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>>167613412
Arguing that Bunnie and Antoine's marriage should be nixed because it does nothing for her character. If you wanna nix it just do it via retcon or time skip to avoid any real hassle, and that's when you have the personality change
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>>167613184
The comics are the only thing that normally has consistent output or news.
Very little is being said about the games so we default to the comics.
It's unfortunate but at the moment it's either that or "wats ur favrite crush 40 song?"
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>>167613412
Did you not see the bit above about this being a recurring shitposter?
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>>167613497
>Good fanfics do exist, but /trash/ is shitposting again.
I get it, you're a fic writer who thinks that they're the exception, but you're not. Good fanfics really don't exist. I've looked, they're all terrible
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>>167613497
>Good fanfics do exist
I'm sure, alongside fan comics, but boy are there heaps and heaps of trash to wade through to find them.
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Fun fact, you can have opinions and not have them leak out in to your work!
Anti-semites have made brilliant films without pushing the Nazi agenda, leftists have produced great works of art without pushing the SJW shit, just cause a man believes in something doesn't always make the work suffer for it.
I mean it can and most often does but still.
It's not like Ian because of one kinda bad opinion is going to make the series Marvel tier.


>>167612903
I ask this everytime, but there was a fanfic starring Shadow and like an evil version of Shadow, and Sonic was dead but Eggman was a mechanic who uses guns and it was centered around Amy after some horrible disaster which killed Sonic and everyone blamed Shadow, and I'm sure it was fucking awful but I've never been able to find it again.
Anyone know which one it is?

Also where the hell is Tails Gets Trolled now, DA a shit to look through.
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>>167613773
>fanfic starring Shadow and like an evil version of Shadow
Oh.

OH.

You're looking for some Fireball20XX shit. Let me see what I can find.
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>>167613554
when there's that much desperation for discussion, it seems it'd be better to let discussion die off for a while
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>>167613773
I'd start here if I were you.
http://www.sonicverseteam.net/comics/
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>>167612903
It wasn't the absolute worst, but that one fanfic that crossed over SatAM with MechWarrior of all things was pretty crazy.
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>>167612903
I think the primary reason fan fics are often so awful is because they tend to use unsuitable themes or shit that just doesn't fit in the universe - or it's just overly edge teenage shit.
Not to mention the whole Mary Sue OC shit.

Like the one described in >>167613773
The only time "sonic dies" worked well was in TGT.
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>>167611746
Characters existing only to have a dynamic with another character goes beyond gender. Tails' character revolves around being Sonic's sidekick. Knuckles' character revolves around being Sonic's rival. Shadow's character revolves around being Sonic's dark side.
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>>167613773
I think you're looking for "Red & Black". Sorry I don't have a link for you.
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>>167614206
>Not to mention the whole Mary Sue OC shit.
Mary Sue OC is a redundant term. They're all Mary Sues/Gary Stus unless they're background characters, and I do mean background characters. If they have a name and a backstory they're shit
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>>167613648
>Implying I have the time to write fanfics
>Implying I could ever care enough to do that

Nigga please

>>167613683
True, but that's what makes me appreciate the good ones.
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>>167613773
>>167614341
This is as much as I could find of it. I'm afraid the rest may have been lost to time.
http://foolyguy.deviantart.com/gallery/88932/Red-and-Black
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>>167614372
That's not what Mary Sue means.
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>>167614817
They're characters that are better than the canon ones that steal the spotlight in some way. If an OC can do something better than a canon character or something none of them can do, or do something a canon character could've done, they fall into that category
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>>167614884
Okay, but what if an OC can't do better than a canon character, and stays in a minor supporting role with no superfluous stories that serve as bizarro episodes rather than trying to integrate themselves with canon characters.
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>>167614884
That's not how Mary Sues work.
That's like saying Tails is a Gary Stu because he's smarter than sonic.
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>>167614236
Even in those cases, Knuckles and Shadow have personalities and such beyond their dynamic to Sonic. You can tell interesting stories about them because of that. Not so with someone like Amy, whose characterization revolves almost entirely around being Sonic's crazy stalker.
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>>167614714
>>167614341
>>167613887
OH MY GOD THAT'S THE ONE
FUCK
YOU LEGEND
Oh god the art is so fucking bad
But yeah, the Sonic Knight guy, I remember that bit.
As a kid I thought it was pretty cool cause Eggman was a cynical bastard who could take the piss out of Amy and her boyfriends. From what I remember anyway.

Maybe I should not find out how bad it was written, the premise is cooler in my head.
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>>167614998
Then that works. The moment they interact with a canon character or become a hero they're shit
>>167615084
Well that doesn't make him good. That makes him overshadow Sonic in one aspect, and that's a bad thing
>>167615137
Honestly, you could fix that by just nixing her crush on Sonic and keeping her as the bratty pre-teen with a fuckhuge hammer
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>>167613497
Eggman is the light of my life.
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>>167615137
Shadow's personality is literally Sonic but darker. Everything about Knuckles, literally everything, exists to expand upon his rivalry with Sonic.
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Originalfag back again with a Colors playthrough update.

I was actually having my doubts about the games. Levels just seemed to either drag on or fly by. One major criticism I do have is the lack of visual definition overall. It can be difficult both to make out the upcoming terrain and especially make out where Sonic is at times.

Then I went back and tried to get an S rank in the first level.

Wow. The game really shines through when you set yourself a goal like this. The entire points system and multiple branching paths in the level finally feel like less of a tack-on and more of a core part of the gameplay. It is legitimately challenging to figure out which route to take and which bonues to get to reach that elusive S-rank. More thought went inot the levels than I first imagined.

That said, the lack of spin-dash still seems alien to me. But it finally dawned on me also just how few slopes this game has, probably the reason for the removal of Sonic's roll.

Over all I'm having fun, and I still simply don't understand what people's problems with the dialogue in this game is. The dialogue is fine. It's goofy and there's no real plot so to speak, but as I said, this is a self-confident kids game. I like it, or at least I like it better than the "drama" which earlier games tried to shoehorn in.

Current Recommendation: Play this game.
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>>167615571
>Over all I'm having fun, and I still simply don't understand what people's problems with the dialogue in this game is. The dialogue is fine. It's goofy and there's no real plot so to speak, but as I said, this is a self-confident kids game. I like it, or at least I like it better than the "drama" which earlier games tried to shoehorn in.
Only reason people don't like it is because they expect way too much out of this franchise.
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>>167615276
>That makes him overshadow Sonic in one aspect, and that's a bad thing
It really doesn't. And it doesn't make him Gary Stu either.
If you actually believe this then you don't know what a Mary Sue/ Gary Stu is.

But I'm pretty sure you're shitposting so whatever.
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>>167615571
Honestly i'm just under the impression that the new sonic team has no idea how to impliment the physics of a spin dash, if Lost world is any indication.
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>>167615571
>It's goofy and there's no real plot so to speak, but as I said, this is a self-confident kids game
That's the problem. Before, the storytelling had style, even if it had no substance.

Now it's story has neither style nor substance. It finally admits what it is: a kiddie excuse plot for a video game.

And that's perfectly okay. If you're still hung up on Sonic's "story" to that extent, and you're above the age of 15, your priorities could use some shuffling around.
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>>167615571
>The entire points system and multiple branching paths in the level finally feel like less of a tack-on and more of a core part of the gameplay.
The color powers kind of ruin that imo, though. You get points just for using a color power, so you can, for instance, just keep using drill and racking up constant points for no good reason other than you're using drill.

>The dialogue is fine.
It's stupid and cringy. It's something for five-year-olds and no one else. Eggman's PA system lines are the only good ones. They're actually funny instead of tryhard funny.

Colors it's a great game, but it has a few flaws, most notable the dialogue. I'm fine with a Sonic game that's goofy and light on story, but I expect what story that's there to be entertaining instead of something I want to skip every time.
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Anyone that says Amy is a stalker with a crush is DEAD. WRONG. Amy Rose is neither of those things. She isn't some fangirl obsessed with a celebrity, that has never EVER been the case in the games. That's what the Archie Comics did pre-reboot because Sally existed.

Actually, about that.

In around 1992, both SoA and SoJ wanted a love interest for Sonic. The west created Sally and the East created Amy. Sega of Japan developed Amy's character with Sonic's personality in mind. Amy is Sonic's self-proclaimed girlfriend and not just plain 'girlfriend' because of what Sonic's character is like. Amy is what a true Love Interest for Sonic would actually be like. The love is obvious from her to him, but him to her is nearly ambiguous.
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>>167615276
Sure, but the question is, does that give her enough of an interesting personality to carry her own story? We're not just talking her being an interesting side character, but someone whom people will buy a comic with her on the front.

>>167615513
Objectively false. People will buy comics based on Knuckles and Shadow because they have interesting enough personalities that aren't dependent on the existence of another character. Same with Blaze.
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>>167615195
Hahaha oh god the artttt.
Cool as fuck Eggman though.

Thanks Anons, I might not be able to read it again, and I should probably be glad, but I'm glad that you found this piece of history.

Sayanoura, bad fanfiction.
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/sthg/, this is the ideal male body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
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>>167615974
>Sure, but the question is, does that give her enough of an interesting personality to carry her own story?
Oh, for the comics, no. However, if you say, kept her Adventure personality and then paired her up with Bunnie, who would have this hotheaded "Punch first, ask questions never" personality and general lack of trying to care about people, you could have something semi workable. Heavy emphasis on action, with some conflict coming about when Amy feels that Bunnie has gone too far or jumped the gun and ran off her gut feeling again instead of trying to actually talk to someone.. But mostly the focus would be action.

On her own, perhaps having her raid an Egg Army base and smashing everything that moves could be fun
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>>167615825
Yeah.

Thought the S-ranks do require playing the level fast, fluidly, and (to a small degree) stylishly, as a high level player in the old-school games might run through the level. Basically this tickles my autism.

I miss slopes though. I'm beginning to sound like a Mario-Maker fag.

>>167615968
> It's stupid and cringy.
Seen as something serious, yes. Seen as a kids game, no. It's the type of shit you'd hear in a Pixar movie or cartoon show and it fits Sonic well.
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>>167521256
>DKC is better in almost all conceivable way though.

Wow. Just wow.
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>>167615969
>but him to her is nearly ambiguous.
In SA1, he was almost constantly annoyed with her when she was around. In SA2, he constantly refuses any advance she makes. Heroes has him actively panic when she shows up and then actually run away from her. Unleashed is the first time he shows any kind of desire for her attention, but the first time is the cliche "I'm a monster and my friends don't recognize me" trope, and the second is a dialogue choice that gives you the option to refuse. Black Knight is next, with him actually having accepted a date with Amy, but still, she's more willing to believe he was just trying to get out of it than he was magically transported to the world of King Arthur. Then, back to Generations, he's actively holding her back from him. It's pretty unambiguous that he holds little, if any, romantic attraction to her.

>>167616489
>It's the type of shit you'd hear in a Pixar movie
No, Pixar is actually funny for all ages. I've never seen a Pixar movie where I groaned at an attempt at a joke.
>cartoon show
Ones meant for children not over the age of seven, the kind who go in hysterics over a fart.
>it fits Sonic well
I find it hard to believe a self-proclaimed "originalfag" actually believes this. The classic games all had a somewhat serious story with Sonic battling legitimate threats. Eggman and his robots were goofy, but he was still doing some terrible stuff, and Sonic had a brash attitude. Sonic is more for pre-teens than little kids.
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>>167616489
Yeah, but Pixar isn't perfect, mate. If you like the dialogue that's fine, but personally, it's pretty fucking shitty, & it gets worse with each game.

>>167615276
>nixing her crush on Sonic
>not just writing it better like the post-reboot comics, & Adventure games did

Fuck no.
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>>167616901
He isn't wrong, though. The original DKC games have some of the best examples of game design out there for 2D platformers. Responsive and fluid controls, level design that doesn't rest on its laurels, well hidden alternate routes, it's all wonderful.
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>>167617153
>>not just writing it better like the post-reboot comics, & Adventure games did
Eh, fair enough. I think it works if you do it like Boom where it's almost a non factor to her
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>>167615137
>You can tell interesting stories about them because of that.

Tell Sega that
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>>167616901
Look man, I love Sonic, I really do. Wouldn't come here if I didn't. Played almost every game, including the GG ones, I've played the classics more times than I can count, and while Sonic is a great momentum based platformer which needs skill to get good at and I can respect that, DKC has a better learning curve, more variety, can easily cater to slow and fast players, punishes you fairly, has great aesthetic, looks cohesive all the way through, and has better music.

Ice levels which affect the player, underwater levels which don't feel like a chore, I can go on.
Sonic will always be my favourite platformer, but DKC is better.
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>>167617152
Yeah as a Sonamyfag, it's pretty obvious Sonic isn't interested in shit like romance, & that's usually the reason why he acts the way he does around Amy. I mean if he was interested in her like that, they would already be together in the games.

>>167617295
>Boom "bedroom eyes 24/7" Amy
>Boom "wetter than the ocean" Amy

Are you sure about that?
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>>167617704
Yeah. It doesn't dictate her every action. It's a simple crush, not the crux of her character, as it should be
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>>167617152
Don't forget '06's Test of Love, which featured both Amy and Elise.
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>>167617842
The funny thing is, Amy in the games has other interests outside of Sonic. I mean yeah most of her interests are girly shit, but it exists. It's just that SEGA has reduced the character to crushing on Sonic & nothing else. They've done the same thing to Knuckles, where he only shows up to go "I can do better Sonic, even though I'm not gonna do shit!"

The people writing the characters nowadays just suck.
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>>167618116
>They've done the same thing to Knuckles, where he only shows up to go "I can do better Sonic, even though I'm not gonna do shit!"
Honestly, he should never leave that fucking island of his unless the emerald breaks/factors into the plot.
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>>167618087
A "test of love" that had no bearing on anything. Your choice doesn't matter, how long you take doesn't matter, it's never mentioned anywhere outside the mission itself, etc. It's so inconsequential that it's largest effect on the game is the loading screens you have to go through. And '06 erases itself, anyway.
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>>167618256
If they want to have Knuckles in the games, at least explain why he's not guarding the ME. Like Archie explained how he was able to keep the M.E safe perfectly.

But yeah, I would like to see Amy & Knuckles written better in the games, because the way they've been written for the last few years has been ass.

I would also like to see Amy & Sonic's interactions be more like the post-reboot comics, as the interactions there are far better.
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>>167618116
>The funny thing is, Amy in the games has other interests outside of Sonic.
Very little, and most of that just feeds back into her crush for Sonic. That's literally her primary reason for existing and has been ever since she was introduced.
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>>167618758
So hanging out with Cream, shopping, etc all just feeds back into Sonic? I'll give you boxercising since it's been stated she does that to look good for him, but let's not pretend she has literally nothing outside of her crush.
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>>167615195
You're welcome anon. At least my knowledge of godawful 00s Sonic fancomics still comes in handy from time to time.
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>>167619193
This. There's more to Amy than her crush. I just wish SEGA would show this off like they did in the Adventure games. Or how the post-reboot comics do it.
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>>167619193
Hanging out with Cream in the hopes that she'll get kidnapped by Eggman again and draw in Sonic. Shopping so that she can sustain herself in her pursuit of Sonic.
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>>167619347
Same, but that would require SEGA giving focus to her in the games, & no one outside of Sonic, Eggman & Tails gets that anymore.
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>>167619413
>>167618758
This is why I think they should either tone it down to the point where she likes him as only a friend, or nix it entirely
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>>167619486
A good writer wouldn't need to nix it, or just have her like him as a friend. A good writer could make her into a good character, without just getting rid of it. The current comics are doing it, the Adventure games did it.
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>>167619486
I honestly don't see the point of getting rid of her crush. It's fine as long as it doesn't rule her whole character.
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Anyways, if you could bring back a Sonic villain (whether they were from the cartoons, the comics, whatever) into the games, who would it be? And how would they fit in?
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>>167619413
This is the farthest stretch I have ever seen in an attempt to make Amy look bad.
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>>167619193
>hanging out with Cream
To date, every instance of the two hanging out has taken the form of Amy comically chasing after Sonic while Cream was the straight man to her shenanigans.

>shopping
Like when? Adventure 1 when she was just getting groceries while dreaming about being with Sonic?

It can be different in the comics, but in the games she has very little outside of her crush.
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>>167616901
speaking of DKC there's something about the Sonic Boom cartoon that reminds me of the DKC cartoon
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>>167619848
So what about Heroes, where outside of the Team Battle, Amy was helping Cream & Big find their lost friends?

>while dreaming about being with Sonic?

She was more thinking about how boring her city life was & even then, that doesn't mean she isn't interested in shopping.
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Do you know what really annoys me about Knuckles & Amy in Sonic Boom? Just... just.. Ugh. I mean, like, Knuckles' entire Treasure Hunter aspect to his character is completely stripped from him and given to Amy. And literally every single ounce of Amy's mysticality aspect is 100% erased. Not even her hammer is magical, it's just a basic hammer.

And, I know SegaKnuckles has sometimes been portrayed in a comedic light with jokes at his intelligence, but really he's not an idiot at all. He knows Angel Island like the back of his hand. He knows how to expertly use all of the ancient technology on the island. He knows how to read ancient languages, and knows a ton about ancient civilizations in general. He knows martial arts. He has all this knowledge, and understands it on the level of a master of each field. He's naive and can be slow at times in regards to social interactions and stuff like that, but he's FAR from stupid.

And Amy keeping her love for Sonic a SECRET does not make sense in regards to her character. Amy is emotional, full of energy, and wears her heart on her sleeve. Even if Sonic is stuck on this one island and not travelling the world, meaning Amy doesn't have to constantly travel to follow him, she'd still let everyone know that she is Sonic's girlfriend.

Honestly, Boom!Knuckles and Boom!Amy are completely different people from Sega!Knuckles and Sega!Amy.

...

Actually, I feel like Knuckles & Amy's characterizations in Sonic Boom are the epitome of everything that is wrong with most people's false interpretations and misunderstandings of the characters.
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I'm serious. Pic related is NOT who Knuckles the Echidna and Amy Rose really are.
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So I guess I'll probably see you guys later tonight.
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>>167620258
They're the best characterizations they've ever had. Knuckles has been at least kinda dumb since 3&K, and instead of being annoying, it's kinda funny for Boom. And Amy's fangirlism is gone, making the most annoying part of her character a non-issue, and thanks to not having a shrill voice and screaming all the time, another annoying part is gone. She works better as a straight man. Also, she hasn't ever had a consistent magical aspect to her, outside of the tarot cards mentioned one time in a manual

To be honest, if these were carried over to the main canon, only the biggest diehards would be THAT upset
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>>167620484
>Pic related is NOT who Knuckles the Echidna and Amy Rose really are.
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>>167620149
What was the first thing in her team's story? Her looking for Sonic.

Look, I'm not saying she has absolutely nothing, I'm saying she has little, and it isn't enough to make her a compelling character when you give her the spotlight.
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>>167620917
>and it isn't enough to make her a compelling character when you give her the spotlight.
Given that Sonic's the star of this franchise, and thus naturally the one who does and should get the spotlight, this isn't really a problem. She's a supporting character. She's meant to support Sonic, not take the focus away. Same goes for anyone not named Eggman
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>>167620258
Boom! Knuckles is meh. But Boom! Amy is generic and bland IMO. Sure, she's more mature and isn't just chasing Sonic around, but she just falls flat.
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>>167620258
knuckles as a treasure hunter fell to the wayside LONG ago
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>>167621035
Also, let's be real, none of the characters in Sonic can even be called characters. They're one dimensional stereotypes. Sonic's the snarky hero, Eggman's the goofy bad guy, Tails is the smart one, you get the idea. A lot of this "characterization" talk is simple overanalyzation
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>>167621035
The whole discussion started regarding why female characters other than Blaze don't sell when they're in the spotlight. This is why.
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>>167620917
She wondered where Sonic was in the opening, but she literally spent most of the story helping Cream & Big find Chocola & Froggy.

And yeah, Amy isn't the most compelling character in the series, but I just don't agree that she has little to her.
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>>167621343
There's not really anything wrong with that. They were never meant to have the spotlight because they're not Sonic.
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>>167620258
I do like Boom!Knuckles & Boom!Amy, but only in Boom. I would not want to see these charactizations in the games, or comics, as they fit the Boom universe.
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>>167620484
>really are.
They can't "really" be something, because they're not real. There is an original characterization to them, yes, but nothing says a spin-off that's completely segregated from the main series has to keep them exactly that way.
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>>167621396
Her entire motivation for teaming up with Cream and Big was a newspaper article showing a picture of "Sonic" with Chocola and Froggy. Team Rose was all about each member looking for someone, and those someones all seemed to be together. That's the only reason they were a team in the first place.
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At least Sonic didn't ask for god to set up a tournament where the loser's get their universe destroyed.
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>>167620258
Get outta here Sparky.
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>>167622517
Yet.
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>>167622347
At the start Amy was looking for Sonic. But after Team Rose came across Team Sonic, she still helped Cream & Big look for their friends.
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>>167622646
That's because Sonic got away.
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>>167564902
see >>167544381 dummy
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>>167622870
And Amy went right back to helping Cream & Big, & it was only until after Team Rose found Chocola & Froggy, she went after Sonic.

>>167623378
Fucking nice work, anon.
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>>167623520
thanks anon

im currently taking a break on Sonic Battle hacking stuff for Phase so i can do some other stuff.

like finishing pic related (a request)
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>>167623686
Neat. Also, it must be pretty easy to do the Lien-da sprite, given how similar her & Knuckles look.
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>>167613138

Best rival.
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>>167623893
i know right? and the body part should be easy to do as well.

also, Knuckles should be available to swap and hack over in the next build of the Sonic Battle Hack Suite soon.

(right now Phase needs to figure out what's making one of his sprites come out weird in sprite editor)
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>>167624385
Th-that's a lot of sprites!
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>>167624562
also forgot

ALL of Sonic's in-battle sprites are finally editable in the next build
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Why do people think that killing off any character in this comic is going to help with Sally's development as a character or any character's development? People are just going to forget all about this later on. We don't need anyone to do for better character development just better writers for the characters or just more scenes with them doing other stuff.
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>>167624823
Well, killing off characters that add nothing is beneficial for the health of the comic, and unless they undergo radical changes that likely can't be done, Bunnie and Nicole are those kinds of characters
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>>167624823
No one really thinks that. It's just shitposters.
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>>167606890
>arc about non-game female OCs doesn't sell
>SEXISM!

>Blaze gets a GOAT pirate arc with pirate Metal Sonic as a villain
>people love it
>I-it's just because of her fire powers!

I bet a Rotor daddy issues arc would do really well....
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>>167625162
Rotor should just off his dad and get it over with already instead of dragging it out
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>>167613497
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>>167625421
Actually, I'm kind of hoping that the FF universe arc basically serves to wrap up all the FF's personal arcs. Bunnie's family is established and wrapped up in her's, Nicole's is wrapped up in her and Sally's, whatever Antoine is doing is done in his issue. Basically, don't have their character arcs go on forever. Book could use some expediency in that regard
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>>167625162

Blaze's arc didn't do so well comparatively. Even with the momentum of the crossover leading to record high sales for a long time, the dropoff rate over the course of the arc was massive. Countdown to Chaos' dropoff rate was a lot lower.
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>>167625421
Rotor needs to gain the approval of his father who dies in his arms, then murder wreck Orca and take the lead of this tribe, turning them into mechanical warlords who fiercely fight against Eggman's forces.
That makes him fuck off from the FF so Tails can become the only tech guy
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>>167626034
Alternatively he could just kill them both, realize that wow, he actually did something the FFs would've stopped him from doing, and decides to wage a one man war on Eggman and eventually everyone else because he thinks his way is the best way. Gets him off the FFs and gives him a unique role as a minor villain not tied to Eggman that can impact the heroes. Also one not afraid to kill someone outright
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>>167623520
>And Amy went right back to helping Cream & Big, & it was only until after Team Rose found Chocola & Froggy, she went after Sonic
Amy didn't stop looking for Sonic after that first meet up. They still thought Sonic had Chocola and Froggy. Technically, they were all still pursuing Sonic.
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>>167626234
>They still thought Sonic had Chocola and Froggy

When?
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>>167626169
Actually, on second thought >>167626034 had the right idea of him robotocizing his dead father and Akhlut. It'd make his descent into villainy all the more tragic. Fuck, Rotor going full villain could be so cool but it'll never happen because they're afraid to piss off the fans. But nobody likes Rotor so what the fuck
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>>167620484
This doesn't even seem out of character for them. Standing back to back, ready to fight.

I could totally imagine comic amy and knuckles doing this.
I could totally imagine Game Amy and Knuckles doing this
I could even imagine Sonic X Amy and Knuckles doing this.
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>>167605094
Anon from>>167601548
This...pretty much encapsulates the entire discussion. It's awesome.
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Fun fact: NiGHTS made a short cameo in one of Sonic Battle's minigames: "Speed Demon"

https://youtu.be/5qI7gwaCelE?t=1072
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>>167630341
TIL sonic battle has minigames
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>>167631115
>TIL
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>>167619801
Lord Battle Kukku since he was in the games before.
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>>167619801
I'd actually be really interested in Naugus as the main villain of a game with all the enemies being magical minions. Give some opportunity for really crazy looking enemies, settings and mechanics that might not fit with Eggman.
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>>167632438
You'd probably have to give Naugus a bit more to him character wise, or at least personality wise, because in terms of Sonic villains, especially ones from the comics/cartoons, he's pretty damn weak
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Bye
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>>167631275
"today i learned"

it's a reddit thing
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>tfw took a 3 hour nap only to wake up to the rest of /sthg/ being asleep

so what're you guys up to?
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>>167636434
>reddit
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>>167636523
playing all the 3DS games i missed out on

is Sonic Gens 3DS any good?
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>>167634370
Bye, anon.
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>>167636608
no idea, the only hand held sonics I have are Colors and Lost World
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>>167636608
None of the 3DS Sonic games are any good, but Generations is the less bad of the bunch.
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>>167514636
tfw a meme you made years ago is still getting reposted. I've truly hit the big time.
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Bump is
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>>167640131
A dumb disgusting nose-picker.
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>>167637593
>tfw you don't remember where you got this pic from
Thanks for the pic anon

>>167640325
Sage
Pls
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>>167619801
Nack/Fang
I know he's kinda just male Rouge now but I like how much of an asshole he is

>>167640325
Bump's not looking especially... bumpy today.
Has she been skipping meals?!
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>>167641125
Bump a idiot

>>167641303
Dumb deer probably forgot to eat.
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Unpopular opinion: SA2 is not nearly as good as some of the fanbase likes to claim, nor is it anywhere near as bad as the rest of the fanbase likes to claim.

It's just... mediocre. Same goes for SA1 and Heroes. I think all three games have great ideas, and I wonder what it'd be like if a modder mixed all three together, filtering out the mediocre ideas and combining the good ones into one cohesive 3D title.
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>>167641939
That would take more than just modding.
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>>167641939
"Mediocre game with good ideas that would be great if filtered out the bad and focused on the good" describes pretty much the entire of the franchise since it went 3D. Even the "good" games like Generations are good only relatively, and have their fair share of problems.
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What would a Sonic game be like if Kid Chameleon-style level progression?
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>>167641447
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>>167643946
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>>167619801
Snively
Is that even a fucking question
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So, which "setting" is best?

-S3K (Floating/Angel Island, Master Emerald, Simple stuff)
-Adventure 1 (Story behind the emeralds, Echidna lore, Tikal & Chaos, Chao)
-Adventure 2 (Shadow, GUN, darker tone, more emotion)
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>>167645279
All 3
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>>167645279
S3K for small 2D games, Adventure 1 or 2 with 3D games.
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>>167643946
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>>167645279
Adventure 2 is the game where they tried to make things "darker and grittier" story wise, but for once, it strangely managed to work in a certain way.

SA2 did have a story that you could say was "edgy" perhaps (Weapon X, government, conspiracy, little girl getting shot), but it was presented in what I'd say is a "saturday morning cartoon" style, which didn't really make it that bothersome in my opinion. The cut-scenes feel a lot like the late 90s/early 00s era when many channels were playing violent anime dumbed down and cut for American children. While I certainly think the story isn't great, it's enjoyable in a certain campy, nostalgic way, and that's to do with it's presentation.

That was pretty much as dark as it got until Shadow the Hedgehog got his own game, really. Due to the presentation, Sonic Heroes felt much more "kiddy", nothing really dark in that game. Then with Shadow and 06 the series reached its lowest levels of story. Those games felt like a Hot Topic/DeviantArt dramafest fan fiction, but without the cheese factor of SA2 that made it enjoyable. To quote a review I read on 06, "the game used the words 'kill', 'die', and 'death' more often than the words 'and', 'the', and 'or'."

Thankfully Sonic Unleashed, Colors, and Generations went back to that less serious, and I daresay enjoyable type of storylines.
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>>167646072
Careful now, some people will call you a shitposter for daring to enjoy lighthearted stories
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>>167641125
Probably from tumblr lol
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>>167646227
Careful now, you're leaning awful close to forming an unnecessary hugbox
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>>167605094
>not stretched 16:9
how?
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>>167646726
It's probably the mobile version.
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>>167646573
Hey, I'm not the one screaming at people who enjoy silly sonic stories and telling them to stop doing that because Sonic is meant for mature men like themselves and not for 5-11 year olds
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>>167646837
I don't do that either, but I personally enjoy being interested in things and don't find Colors and Lost World a step in the right direction for that, so banning my opinion because you don't agree is a little silly.
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>>167647081
I don't think you get my post. I'm saying that both people who like Colors' story and those that dislike it should be able to discuss it without being called shitposters, the moment anyone in here expresses a different opinion from the rest they're labeled shitposters and shot down
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>>167641939
Adventure games are the type of games that would actually benefit from being remade. Still love them anyway despite their flaws.
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>>167646837
You are the one being a faggot, though.
Cut it out.
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>>167647162
>they're labeled shitposters and shot down
That's because they actually are shitposters. Why do you think the same topics and the same arguments to those topics are always brought up? Because /sthg/ had an off day? I'm not saying Colors and Pontaff discussion is only for shitposters, but 9.999/10 times, it's usually bait just waiting to be replied to.
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>>167647386
You're probably one of the people who spergs out whenever someone posts an unpopular opinion calling them a /trash/ shitposter. I doubt most of them come here often. God forbid someone have a unique opinion
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>>167647769
God forbid you express your opinion without being a passive aggressive faggot while doing it. That'd just be too much, huh?
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>>167647824
Mad that I spoke the truth, huh anon?
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>>167647873
The only truth is you being a faggot. Thanks for helping prove my point.
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>>167647946
>I'll call him a faggot
>That'll show him not to go against the hive mind
Lol
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>>167648113
Being a faggot just to spite me only makes you an idiot, too.
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>>167648286
See >>167647824
Guess someone is projecting about their grade school troubles.
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>>167646072
I like the tone of the GBA games, and Adventure 2 the most. I think a good example of the direction I would want them to go in terms of story and tone is One Piece. Premise is simple and easy to follow, but once you get into you find all kinds of implications about the world and relationships between the characters are pretty complex. It remembers its a comic for young boys, but also remembers that people who read it have grown up and still enjoy it. Thinking about it a lot of One Piece characters have personalities similar to Sonic characters.
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Jesus Christ, both of you shut up already.
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>>167648395
I know what it means and I'm using it correctly. Educate yourself, fuckface.
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This argument.
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>>167648395
>sweetie
And you wonder why everyone calls you passive-egressive, a shitposter from /trash/, and a faggot.
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>>167648565
Yes, I am, retard. Maybe someday you won't be a massive faggot but I wouldn't bet on it.
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>>167648565
>Because they're crybabies?
No, because YOU'RE the one crying over how everyone wants you to stop being so condescending towards everyone who wants you to tone it down. No one has a problem with your opinions; they just have a problem with the way you're expressing them. If you calm down and cease the namecalling, I'm sure we can have a reasonable discussion about the pros and cons of the lighter direction Sega has taken with Sonic for the past 6 years.
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>>167648736
Having issues there, faggot? Can't type correctly because you're projecting again and the tears make it hard to see?
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>>167648863
>I-I'm not crying you're crying
Pathetic
>>167648704
Honestly expressing them any other way would just get them drowned out by a sea of crying because again, this place is populated by toddlers
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>>167648928
Back to >>>/trash/, shitposter.
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>>167648989
And there it is, the calling card of the crybaby. Telling anyone they disagree with to leave
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>>167649026
Whatever, faggot. Come back when your ass isn't on fire from someone calling you out for being a faggot.
>>>/trash/
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>>167648489
Ew, someone needs to turn up the sampling on this render!
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>>167649061
>The crybaby bawwing and demanding someone go to /trash/ for having differing opinions is calling someone else butthurt
Lmao
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>>167649123
Yeah, that's it. Whatever helps your confidence stay intact.
>>>/trash/
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>>167649184
>S-stop calling me a crybaby and leave already waaaaaaah
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>>167649250
>I can't see that I'm the crybaby and shitting up the thread
>>>/trash/
That's where garbage like you belongs.
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>>167620258
I agree actually. People can't seem to tell the difference between Gullible and stupid. And being gullible is kinda justified for Knuckles, he lived in isolation and didn't get much social interaction, but he wasn't stupid. He was able to slow Sonic down with well placed traps (which would take a lot of precise predicting and timing). Amy was a fan girl for Sonic, persistent, chasing him and idoling him, but she had other traits about her character that made her interesting (mystical interests, tarot cards, ect.) Boom!Amy is just a nagging feminist. Sonic Boom just feels like a badly written fanfic imo.
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>>167649076
I wouldn't even call it a render lmfao, I literally just screenshot a frame from a project I was working on.
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>>167649330
Honesty the Boom versions are just better more well rounded versions of the main cast. Boom Sonic is an actual character and not an obnoxious Mary Sue like the mainline one is
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>>167649330
Boom Amy doesn't act like a feminist.
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>>167649407
Whatchya workin on, anon?
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What the heck was the point of these things?
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>>167649424
I kinda disagree with that. Sonic in the games is an energetic teenager who's always looking for adventure. He feels like he's actually written as a teenager. I find Sonic in Boom always sounds like a bored 40 year old. Just my opinion tho to each their own.

>>167649620
Was supposed to be an anniversary vid for Sonic's 25th but life got in the way and I never finished it in time so I'm hoping to get it done soon.
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>>167649752
Honestly my problem with mainline is that he can do no wrong. He's mr fucking perfect. His flaws are nonexistent outside of recklessness that ends up saving the day anyways and everyone sucks his dick. At least in Boom it feels like he has an attitude and people react appropriately. He's kinda lazy, sarcastic, and done with it all, and that works for Sonic
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>>167649873
I wouldn't really say he hasn't fucked up. I mean he did fuck up in Lost World and almost caused the end of the world (to an extent). In SA2 he fell for Eggman's trap and almost died in an exploding capsule and left his friends in a do or die situation. In SA1 he let Eggman steal the emerald to power up Chaos. As well as Unleashed he let himself get trapped by Eggman (in his super form, no less) to suck out the Chaos Emerald's energy and split the planet. Yeah he ended up saving the day in these instances but his poor actions did make it harder for everyone. I feel Lazy and sarcastic should be a trait in Sonic for sure but I feel in Boom it's kinda strong in his personality. I don't really feel there's ever really been a threat in the Boom show (then again I stopped watching in Season 1 so maybe there was at some point in the show)
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>>167649873
Different anon here.
Legacy Sonic doesn't seem like a Sue to me. While he is a character loved by nearly everybody in the series, the setting actually provides a challenge for him to overcome, unlike nearly every other Sue out there. Even he himself stated that "an adventure's no fun if it's too easy."
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>>167650083
>Yeah he ended up saving the day in these instances
To add on to this, he's the fucking protagonist in a light-hearted platformer. Of course he's going to fucking win in the end.
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>>167650139
There was also SatBK (I know, a lot of people hate that game) where (don't remember the exact line) Sonic said something about playing the role of the bad guy when he wanted to stop the antagonist's attempt at creating a world that never ends. Doesn't really sound like a Mary-Sue type thing. Trying to find that quote.

>>167650347
I was just explaining how despite his victories, a lot of his poor actions made that feat harder to accomplish.
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>>167650510
Aah, ignore that last reply, I misread your quote hahah.
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Honestly, both the Boom and Modern Cast are pretty fucking bad, for different reasons.


Modern!Sonic is an unfunny asshole with zero likeability.
Boom!Sonic is incredibly lazy and boring. He barely even cares about anything.

Modern!Knuckles is still a bit of an idiot, not only that, he's incredibly lazy and egotistical.
Boom!Knuckles is just an idiot.

Both Modern!Amy Boom!Amy are glorified Minnie Mouses.

Both Eggmans have zero threat, although they are funny as hell, and Mike is the best Eggman VA out there.

Both Tails' are just, there. They aren't COMPLETELY terrible, honestly, but they're nothing special.
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>>167649429
Neither does Game!Amy, retard.
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>>167651696
What are you on about?
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>>167651769
Fuck, misread the posts. I'm retarded.
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>>167649739
Scare the flickies.
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>>167648494
>>167648663
>>167648704
>>167648736
>>167648863
>>167648928
>>167648989
>>167649026
>>167649061
>>167649123
>>167649184
>>167649250
>>167649325
/trash/ we get it. You guys like to shitpost because you have nothing better going on. Give it a fucking rest.
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>>167652174
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Fuck this stupid shitposting, let's have a REAL discussion.

Should Sonic's eyelids be flesh colored or blue?
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>>167654265
Blue. Flesh looks too odd to me.
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>>167654265
Neither
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>>167654408
I never got how a lot of his artwork varies with the pupil-eyelids
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>>167654429
I think it's because you rarely ever see it. So unless you're an autist like 100% of the community you won't notice it or won't care.
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>>167655627
Definitely noticed it when I was younger, but I always actually liked it. Feel it fits Sonic's style. Personally I think they did that as it was more of a classic trope.
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>>167654429
It depends on the animators, TMS liked doing it a lot
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>>167655982
Definitely. I really liked when they did it in the old 2D art too.
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bomp
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Wait is there really not a release date for Sonic Mania, I haven't been keeping up

Thought it was releasing in a month or two
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Seems like I missed something while I was asleep.
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>>167662336
Wave a qt

Am I the only one who thinks Plumeria from Pokemon Sun & Moon is vaguely based on her?
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>>167663509
No, you actually disn't miss anything.
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>>167640325
>still waiting for my request from that thread where she drew that pic

should i give up hope? i heard she is all pretentious and ignores half the shit she gets asked to do but i was naive enough not to believe it.
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>>167665762
To be fair, I did warn you.
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>>167666089
yes, hence why i referred to myself as naive.
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What type of music do you see the Sonic characters liking?
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>>167665762
Probably never unless she shows up again or you commission it. The moment she finished that she went back to drawing whatever she was doing on her stream.
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>>167666345
Sonic music.
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>>167666361
nice, i'll make sure to not give my money to that bitch then.
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>>167666345
why are the headphones not even on her ears?
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>>167654265
they look fucking weird when they're flesh-colored.
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>>167666548
Meh, on one hand the stream stuff was paid commissions on the other yeah I can see how getting flaked sucks but if you had the chance would you skip out on paid pics or ignore them for doodling on a Mongolian writing wall?
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>>167666652
People like drawing Sonic characters not having headphones on their ears.
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>>167624823

Hey, I think turning her lesbian would be better, but SEGA is surprisingly homophobic.
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>>167667275
Does anyone have the Shadow version of this? I know I've seen it and I've been looking for it for a while but I couldn't find it and I really want it.
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>>167669515
The games already have a lesbian, her name is Blaze.
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>>167670903

Blaze has a canon crush on Sonic
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>>167670903
blaze is not a lesbian wot

they were hinting at mina liking nicole's e-bussy but then she got pender'd.
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>>167636608
If you go in expecting anything remotely similar to the other versions of Generations you'll be disappointed.
If you go in expecting a focus on the handheld games, you'll be disappointed, as only that water zone from Rush makes an appearance.
If you go in expecting good music, you're in luck! The tracks are all great.
If you go in expecting good levels, I'm sure you'll be happy.
If you go in expecting every game to be represented, you're going to be disappointed.
Oh and by the way the rival battles are all shitty races.
But at least it has Big Arms!
And Biolizard!
And Egg Emperor!
The battle with Time Eater is also made much better with the lack of THAT LOOKS LIKE A HOMING SHOT
Overall it's pretty good on its own but not as a version of the game seen on consoles and PC.
Which might explain why it was given a different subtitle in Japan.
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>>167636608
it isnt nearly as good as the pc/ps3/xbox versions but i guess it's alright.
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>>167672076
That was never hinted at you retard. The only characters who COULD be lesbians at this point are Nicole and Sally, and frankly I'm thinking more the former
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>>167672621
Nicole would only ever want to fuck Phage's giant tentacles. Unfortunately for her Phage wants to murder her with said tentacles.
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>>167666548
Not even a fan, but you sound like a self-entitled faggot.
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>>167673161
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>>167666548
>>167673492
This. Bitching about an artist not giving you a free sketch. Either commission them or move on.
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Ah, let's do it.
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>hear that Lost World's Badnik design is outright terrible
>think it can't be that bad
>somehow go all this time without actually seeing the designs
>just try playing it for the first time this morning

Jesus Christ. I understand this is a children's series but this is just too far into Playskool and Fisher-Price territory. At least my favorite Badnik wasn't hit that hard, I guess.
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I wish that Aosth's credits only covered one episode instead of every episode at once. I want to see which episodes were boarded by who:
Which episodes did Milton Knight board?
Which ones did Art Mawhinney board?
Which ones did Scott Shaw! board?
Which ones did Vincent Waller board?
etc
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>>167675190
I wonder why a game aimed at little kids looks like it's aimed at little kids. Such a mystery
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>>167675472
Milton Knight did the storyboard for 'The Odd Couple' in SatAM
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>>167675474
What I'm saying is they're kiddie-fied so much even kids won't like these designs.
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>>167675474
Sonic is for the age bracket that would watch DBZ and Power Rangers, not Bob the Builder.
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>>167676240
But kids today like sillier stuff, so Sonic appealing to that makes sense
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>>167678157
Eggman gets more pussy than a toilet seat lad.
He's a refined gentleman.
Quite frankly I think the only reason he hasn't boned everyone on SONIC'S WORLD is because no-one can step up.
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>>167678157
CWC actually did this.
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The story/tone of sonic 2017 will be between unleashed and the classic games. well that's the obvious conclusion from the trailer. It does sound like a weird mix.
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>>167680585
He took Vanilla up to that fancy space station in Sonic Advance 2 if that counts.
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>>167681480
VANILLA IS VECTOR'S ONLY
I'M SO MAD I'M GOING TO THROW MY MUM INTO A WALL SO I WON'T BE SO MAD
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>>167681557
>implying Vanilla would even touch a filthy reptile
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bumb
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>>167681812
Vanilla is no Scale-burner, good for her
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>>167681812
Somehow, Vanilla being mildly racist/speciesist/whatever seems totally in character to me. She'd thank Sonic for saving Cream or whatever to his face, then complain about "obnoxious teenage free-runners" at whatever coffee klatches/wine tastings she goes to.

Come to think of it, I wonder what would happen if Cream and her family took the places of the Thorndykes in Sonic X.
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Sally ache horn
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post yfw Sonic 2017 includes Adventure Sonic
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I have come to the conclusion that Sonic has light powers.
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>>167685750
You mean like Light Dash or, like, one hit kill Light moves from SMT?
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>>167684946

It's a well-known fact the Acorns sound like the Kennedy family.
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>>167685902
It's because, in the Adventure games, Sonic's lightspeed techniques seem to come from harnessing the actual element of light. Especially since one of the upgrades is literally a ball of light. When Sonic charges up to do it, he absorbs light from all around into his body. This is why I have come to the conclusion that Light is one of Sonic's canon abilies, which he uses by BEING the light, similar to how he uses all his other abilities.
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>>167686432
I feel like this is going to start a long, shit post filled, argument.
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>>167686432
He only gets the ability after collecting Light Speed Shoes.

Therefore it's all in the shoes.
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>>167669515
>>167670903
>>167671090
Is there any reason to believe any of these claims? Honestly curious.
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>>167686990

SEGA doesn't want homos in their comics.
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>>167686990
Nah, I was just shitposting. There's no canon evidence that Blaze or anyone else is gay.

I mean I could probably come up with a bunch of "evidence" if I wanted to go full Sparky, but nah.
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>>167686842
Does Amy need the Feather to do the Spin Hammer Attack? No. Does Tails need the Rhythme Badge to do a Rapid Tails Attack? No. Does Knuckles need Shovel Claws to dig? No.
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>>167686432
Considering Adventure is the first game to attempt making sense of continuity, lore and canon stuff, I can get behind this.
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>>167687320
You didn't play Sonic Adventure, did you?
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>>167686990
I do not believe SEGA has made any stance on homosexuals in Sonic.
Black Knight had the only big indication of her crushing on Sonic. And does that even count as Blaze?
There hasn't really been anything to my knowledge of her being lesbian.
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What Was His Endgame?
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>>167687320
Irrelevant.
Sonic has needed the Light Speed Shoes in every game to do the Light Dash.
The only exceptions are 06 - in which he needed the Light Speed chip for his shoes, so same thing - and Generations, which considering the context of the game, you could argue he already had the shoes with him.
It's not an inherent ability.
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what are rings then?
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>>167688153
a small circular band, typically of precious metal and often set with one or more gemstones, worn on a finger as an ornament or a token of marriage, engagement, or authority.
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>>167687391
You know what I mean.
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>>167688153
an extremely rare kind of Wumpa Fruit juice solidified and morph into a shape of a donut ring
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>>167687937
Sonic Heroes has a Light Dash but no Light Speed Shoes.

It's an inherent ability just like Knuckles' digging skill, or Amy spinning around with her hammer.

>>167688153
Generators of a time-dimensional space (Special Zone) linking each of them together along with the Master Emerald Altar. Source: Knuckles' Chaotix JP manual.
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>>167688153
Onion rings. They give Sonic power because they go so well with chili dogs.
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>>167688601
>Chaotix
Nope, not canon, sorry.
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>>167689081
Iizuka doesn't put much thought into continuity
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>>167688601
Again, irrelevant.
If it was an inherent ability he wouldn't need to obtain the shoes in later games, yet he does.
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>>167689606
It's an inhernet ability because Knuckles' digging is inherent.
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>>167690173
That's a giant leap of logic with no actual connection, even if Knuckles's digging was inherent, which it isn't.
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>>167689590
Iizuka is fucking CRAP at continuity
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>>167690173
if it was inherent, then he wouldn't have needed an item in multiple games
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>>167690173
Even if it was, "digging" is not some form of light-based power, thus has nothing to do with this and contributes nothing to your assertions.
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Thunder Arrow > Chaos Spear

discuss
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>>167690647
My point is, disregarding lightspeed but accepting digging even though both are upgrades in SA1 and SA2, doesn't seem right to me.
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>>167688153
we will never get a sonic game explaining them. ala minish cap.
just thought up a title -- Sonic: Ring Theory --
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What about that mission in Generations where Knuckles digged without any upgrades.
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Update on Eggman's adventures. Seeing as how difficult it was making a living in the wasteland, he resorted to a life of crime to get the funds he needed to build his new army. However, in a huge stroke of luck, he found a group of settlers who promised the good doctor the chaos emeralds if he helped them. What will happen next? Stay tuned. (first time playing the game)
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Anyone have this? I had my on it for a bit, and while I hear it's no competitor to the NES Classic, what with a lack of a savestate feature (and possible lack of saving at any point, they're not clear) and somewhat subpar audio quality, I hear its gameplay is at least decent.
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>>167688153
The embodiment of Tails.
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>>167688153
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>>167691128
On one hand, you could argue that digging must be some form of inherent ability for Knuckles as it fits his overall design and characteristics, as well as it being mentioned / seen in various media that he can dig or burrow in some way - and perhaps the upgrades acquired merely enhance his abilities.

On the other hand, outside of the Adventure games, digging is rarely seen (from what I remember), instead focusing on his gliding and general strength. Therefore, it could be argued that he can only dig with those upgrades.

Generations is the exception to the latter as he is seen digging without any form of upgrade, thus supporting the former argument. Though he's also not a playable character so you could argue that maybe he still has or obtained the upgrade. It is unknown and only supported by the lack of visibility.

Regardless, this doesn't affect Sonic's Light Speed Dash.
Your argument of "B-But Knuckles has an inherent ability so why doesn't Sonic" has no value and makes little sense. They're not the same character, after all.
Apart from the noted exceptions of Heroes and Generations, Sonic has always required an upgrade for the ability and, unlike digging with Knuckles, is not known to perform the ability in general use and it's not part of his characteristics.

Even then, you could argue that, as Heroes is effectively a direct sequel to SA2, he still has or in some way implemented the Light Speed Shoes to his current set up and the same could be said for Generations. It is, after all, a game about the past of Sonic, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that he still has those shoes.

I'm making this shit up as I go along how am I doing?
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>>167691502
How do you know he doesn't have any upgrades?
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>>167693091
Heroes' manual mentions the Light Dash in Sonic's profile, just like Knuckles' Digging in Sonic 3 and Knuckles' japanese manuals. So they've both been showing needing the upgrade and not needing the upgrade.

It's just that everyone is biased against Sonic actually being that fast, so any possible reason for it not being his speed, they'll take it and run with it and refuse to buy any evidence that says it's his innate speed.
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>>167692121
Are you the same guy that did The Robotniks in Sims? I missed your antics.
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>>167693297
The upgrades are visible when they have them, except for the Ancient Light, that one is absorbed into Sonic's body.
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>>167693539
Nope, just another member of the Eggman fan club.
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>>167688153
Actual representations of female orgasms
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>>167693645
>The upgrades are visible when they have them
Not in Unleashed.
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>>167693875
the downside to pre-rendered cut-scenes, although the extra gear in SA2 was too much.
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>>167694123
I always thought Knuckles looked awesome in SA2 with all the upgrades.

Whenever I do my own fan redesigns (usually only amounting to clothes and stuff, keeping the style and stuff unchanged), I always end up giving Knuckles the SA2 upgrades + the OVA hat, in some form.
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>>167693537
>Heroes' manual mentions the Light Dash in Sonic's profile
So it does. Poop on me then.

I guess you could still say it's a hold over from SA2 but at the end of the day it's arguing game mechanics so I dunno man.

But the original assertion was to do with Sonic having the power of light and that's clearly not right so good conversation to end the thread.
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>>167694756
I was just saying that the Lightspeed Dash seems to come from harnessing actual 'Light' in the Adventure games, which leads me to think that 'Light' is one of Sonic's canon abilities to some degree, like how Tails has supersonic flight and supernatural agility, Knuckles has digging and maximum-heat punches, and Amy has... super hammer-spinning skills... ?
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>>167694756
That's the English one, though, the same one that calls Eggman a feminist. And it doesn't mention anything about how Sonic has it. It gives us the exact same information the actual game does: Sonic can use lightspeed dash ingame for whatever reason.
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>>167694756
>>167695292
And the 'Power of Light' idea stems from how Sonic builds up power to move at Lightspeed in the Adventure games. He absorbs light into his body until he's fully charged with luminescence, and then he moves at lightspeed. Presumably, he no longer needs to build up power to move at lightspeed, so the Light is probably fully unified with his entire being like Wind and Chaos Energy already are.
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>>167695406
that must be a mistranslation.
maybe it meant to say, ladies man?
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>>167696102
It actually says "womanizer".
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Just to clarify, pic-related is why I'm saying Sonic has actual Light powers.
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>>167696085
He builds up some kind of glowing teal-ish energy that isn't necessarily just light. You're also extrapolating information from pure gameplay mechanics, aka making up bullshit. And please stop trying to group up Sonic with cape shit. I know you like the Flash a little too much, but try to contain yourself.
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>>167696760
I'm not making anything up! Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 show Sonic gaining his lightspeed capabilities from actual light, such as the Light he absorbs when charging up, and the Ancient Light upgrade which is literally a ball of light. This must mean that some aspect of Sonic's power is tied to the element of Light in general, which is why he's capable of reaching and surpassing the speed of it.
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>>167696214
>>167695406
>Eggman the feminist
>Eggman the womanizer
Not sure which is less believable.
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Use the power of light to make a new thread.
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>>167697376
>from actual light
Or something else entirely. 99% of all fictional energy sources emit light. Just because the energy balls flying into Sonic out of nowhere glow doesn't mean they are just light. And, if he was absorbing light, shouldn't it darken the area around him for the duration he's absorbing it?
>the Ancient Light upgrade which is literally a ball of light
And is also an upgrade Shadow can obtain.
Sonic doesn't have these dumb metaversal mechanics you keep trying to give it.
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>>167693539
No

...but I am. I didn't realize I was so greatly missed. Maybe I'll get back to it sometime?
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>>167697853
Sonic and Shadow have all the same exact abilities. Every thing I've been saying about Sonic having light powers also extend to Shadow.
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New Thread when?
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>>167697995
Except they clearly don't. Shadow needs rocket skates.
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>>167698367
Shadow is consistently said to share Sonic's speed and abilities.
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>>167698479
With the skates.
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>this thread
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>>167698221
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>>167692121
I really want to make an Eggman power armor mod for FO4. Sad to say I don't know anything about modding...at most I could probably pull off a simple retexture.
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NEW THREAD ALREADY
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>>167697605
No. This is how the general ends. A slow descent off the catalog in a haze of theories on light, feminist Eggman, and gay Blaze.
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>>167692121
And here I thought I was the only one with this idea
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Fine I'll do it myself
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>>167671090
No, she doesn't.

NEW THREAD:

>>167700042
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>>167554392
It's literally the '06 trio
>Sonic and Shadow argue who should lead the operation
>Silver's the only one whose doing anything
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>>167700235
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