/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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>>167443542

Sure, post fashion

Tip: Take your pictures at the first bonfire in Archdragon Peak, the lighting is perfect

>>167443469
>literally a dark souls 2 boss with a shitty slow mob as a backup
O&S are piss easy, kys.

Fucking Christ, why do I need to waste so many goddamned points into Vitality just to be able to hold a few more items? Each point is giving literally 1 point to equip load, this fucking sucks.

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FC continuing at Distant Manor Ledge .

passivefagging and hornet rings are for retards, bring them if you want, but you're still a nigger.

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>>167443787
I did at Anor Londo just for the mood.

Why yours so dark though?

Does int/fai cause weapon buffs to do more damage? Or if I'm doing a buff build should I just get enough to use the buffs I want?

>>167443469
If you've been to the Catacombs, Fire is a pretty good bet. If not, that Occult Club you picked up in the basement is pretty good.

Assuming that you're summoning Solaire as a distraction, you can get a few good cheap hits in with your Pyromancy flame when Ornstein is distracted at the beginning of the fight, with luck you can empty out all your casts on him and then be ready to bash him in.

And as >>167443656 pointed out, Ornstein's increased size makes him much slower, and he has trouble hitting things that are to his sides or back, so closing the distance and being ready to dodge out of the butt slam is pretty good. If you need cover, he also gains Smough's weakness of being unable to path around the pillars, so you can use them to heal if you need to.

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First for T H I C C

>>167443898
go away drake

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>want to make a Dark Souls 2 themed character
>full Faraam with Dark Greatsword
>neck seam on its own set

Are there any areas in DS2 that force me to use a specific type of weapon, like Catacombs?
Or any areas that force me to kill myself irl, like Tomb of Giants?

>>167443952
Yes it does

>buff build
Eh?

>>167443980
fuck off retard

>>167443898
>passivefagging

Playing passive is Dark Souls. You can't have one without the other.

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fc NOW

>>167443898
Going, just give me one second I have to respecc a bit more vit

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DID SOMEONE SAY RINGED CITY?

>>167443849
>tried it once and died to a oneshot mechanic

>lolol kys

Off you go that way friendo
>>>/reddit/

>>167444003
Nah

>>167444003
Be sure to always have a torch equipped and lit in undead crypt.
That way the grues wont eat you.

>>167444086
To me there's a difference, do you just play passive or do you always wait for the opponent to attack before you do and not even once throw the first attack

>>167444003
Infusions are available much earlier in SotFS, but no, to my recollection you don't need anything specific for most areas. Just be wary that certain enemies will have different elemental resistances, and the DLCs will fuck up caster and spellsword builds because most of the enemies have absurdly high resistances to everything but physical.

As for areas, Iron Keep and Shrine of Amana are probably what you're looking for. A few optional areas in the DLCs as well.

>>167444049
Not the best wording I guess, I meant throwing enough int/fai into my build so I can use weapon buffs.

Not a buff build per se.

Okay guys so I beat DS1 without ever invading anyone. I'm playing DS3 now and I'm kinda bored so I want to use one of these red eye orbs and roll up on a nigger and see what I can do. What do I need to know about how this works?

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So do they ever explain what the cursed rotted greatwood was or why it looks humanoid? Is the arm part of the tree? Is it something inside the tree?

>>167443886
i just wish i could wear smough's legs for fashionsouls without fatrolling

How do people manage to only have like 20 Vitality if they use heavy weapons? Are they not bothering with a shield or is there a ring or something that lets you carry shit?

>>167444291
If you just plan on using the fire buff, dont bother, use a resin instead

Resins are like 90 damage and to get even 150 out of a buff takes significant investment

>tfw vordt's greathammer, and by extension, most frost weapons are shit for duels they're great for invasions due to healing compounding status buildup

>>167444360
shields and heavy weapons are redundant. Most heavy weapons have smallshield or higher block capabilities

>>167443952
>das1
i think so but fuck if i know
>das2
no, but the buffs add a % of the weapon's damage and elemental infusions scale with int/fai so it's sort of the same
>das3
yes they do, also staff enchantment matters

>>167444347
Something about placing a bunch of curses inside a tree because why the fuck not

Now it's sentient because it's full of curses because why the fuck not

>>167444347
it's literally just a tree that the undead settlement residents "emptied their curse into" or something like that

>>167444360
Fap and havels rings with no shield is essential for ultras unless you're naked

>>167444051
hornet riposte

>>167444460
You can block with weapons? As I've tried with the claymore and it hasn't worked out well.

>>167444553
duels or invasion?

>>167444460
I'm pretty sure Vordts r1 r1 into Snap Freeze will instantly freeze people.

>>167444458
Okay, final question is does stuff like Sacred Oath/Carthus Beacon/Power Within scale with inft/fai or is the buff static?

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>>167444003
not really except in the DLCs
you need something with good range to kill the heghegs in Loyce
and you need something that can actually hit picrelated on the weak spot at the bottom instead of bouncing off its invincible-everywhere-else spots. whips or curved GS work well
or just walk away from them because theyre slow as shit and not very dangerous

>>167444602
most big 2 hand weapons have pretty good resistances to block with

blocking with something is always better than blocking with nothing

>>167444602
Sure can anon-kun.

Claymore isn't really a heavy weapon. Fume Ultra Greatsword has medium shield blocking stats at 80% physical, ~50% magical and 55 stability, although it does weigh nearly as much as a full set of armor by itself.

>>167443926
It's a PS4 screenshot, it fucks with the brightness

>>167444650
snap freeze alone is enough to freeze most shitters, especially on low levels

>>167444698
Sacred oath does not
The other 2 aren't worth using

>>167444610
dsg pc fc

>>167444003
Shrine of Ameme will be terrible if you don't bring a bow.

>>167444892
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>167444343
pvp basics:
unlike in pve you can usually only stunlock people for 2 hits
dont bother mashing r1 3+ times because if the victim isn't a tard he'll always roll out before the 3rd hit
the host will probably try to run away and estus if you get him low so be prepared to nail him with a running attack

>>167444738
>>167444750
Thanks guys.

Are twinblades viable for chopping up everything in pve in DaS2 or will I just be chipping away at health?

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>go to the arena
>win 9/10
>go to /dsg/ fightclub
>can't even touch people

the true dark souls starts here

>>167444923
don't listen to this shitlord just do amana with no ranged weapons if you're not a casual

>>167444961
Right on, and he'll probably already have a cooperator in there with him, right? I think someone said that last night in here. I just spent all the souls I was holding on a level so I really don't have anything to lose here, I just want to know vaguely what to expect so I don't look like a scrub.

>>167444343
Nothing in particular. Just know you'll lose your souls if you die in their world.

>>167444347
I have just enough autism to have come up with a theory. So we know that being hollow is called a curse, and that the boss is described as "Curse-Rotted", so I feel as though there is a connection between them. The other thing we can find is that in the Undead Settlement there are skeletons that have root structures growing in them, along with people that have straight up turned into trees. In addition we can see hollows in Lothric are also metamorphosing into trees. So I think that as the Undead Curse progresses you go from person to hollow to tree and grow from there. So the Greatwood was likely at one point a person tree like we see around, but hollows came to "dump curses" i.e their dark sigils into the tree in order to prevent them from losing their minds and corrupting the Greatwood from a tree shaped like a person to a sentient and malevolent being. The Transposing kiln is what the settlers used to dump curses in it, and the weapons made from it are fuck you they had them on file.

>>167444807
beacon is ok with twin weapons or caestus because they can get "4-hit" combos just from 2 l1s

>>167443963
Yeah i wasnt having a hard time or anything, the buttslam caught me by surprise as you can imagine, it wont get me again, I just thought I should probably do something about the fact I was hitting him for less than 100 per with the zwei before I go attempt it again.

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What if the new DLC has a new ending where you bring the dark pigment to the painter girl, and you escape the cycle by going and living in the new painted world?

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>>167443970
M U H

>>167445078
yeah if you use redeye orb you will almost always be against summoned phantoms

if you want easier pvp you can try something like watchdogs of farron or aldrich faithful depending on where you arre in the game

>>167445230
This will most likely happen. DLC is endgame anyway.
Maybe even two endings, another being accepting dark soul into yourself and becoming a new pygmy.

>>167445292
What's Watchdogs of Farron about? I'm in the Farron Swamp right now but only have it about halfway explored. I like this area, reminds me of farming large titties from the leeches in Blighttown.

>>167445230
It would kind of feel like a cop out to just go "World's Fucked" and go chill with Gael and the painter.

>>167444343
Prepare your anus for a 3v1.

>>167445434
If you think Gael is gonna make it out of this DLC alive, you are sadly mistaken

god, greatmaces are so fucking good once you learn how to use them well.

So many random parts of the standard greatmace moveset truecombo with each other, like 1HR1 in 1HJA, which can combo immediately into a 1HrR1 due to the rolling attack bug

>>167445434
World is already fucked. You can at least chill in a comfy snowy world with Gael, Painter and maybe some people from Firelink and let the world rot and reset meanwhile.

>>167445415
Were you embered when you went through Crucifixion woods?

Watchdogs are an auto-invading covenant that gangbangs people in there. You just walk around with the cov equipped and will periodically be summoned to kill players who are in that area.

holy fuck fog I just did 900 damage in two hits lmao

>>167445525
>the rolling attack bug
hm?

also do you mean true combo, as in if you hit 1hr1 you are guaranteed to land jumping + rolling attack afterwards before the host gets out of hitstun

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>>167445472
>you can actually save him
>but it's as hard as keeping that NPC in Ludwig's boss room alive

>>167445415
Hold the fuck up, you LIKE the swamp in DS3, the game with no ring to make waddling in mud faster?

That place is cancer, and there is no way to mitigate it.

>>167444706
I remember these guys, i would position myself to their left and swing my BKUGS, the end of the swing where it smashes into the floor would one hit them.

>>167445568
I can't remember if I was embered in there or not but I sometimes forget to log into the network before I play so one way or the other I never got jumped in those woods. That sounds fun as fuck though tbqhwy.

>>167445692
use quickstep weapons retard

>>167445692
I never had the ring in DS1 either until much later. I had no idea you could return to the Undead Asylum until some point after Anal Rodeo and the Lordvessel.

>>167445682
Yo if we have to keep him alive in a bossfight then he's gonna need a rework because the fucker has a bad habit of trying tank everything.

>>167445692
most of the swamp is just ankle deep tbqh, there are only a few wading spots

>>167445790
>blow all your FP on quickstepping.

It's still fucking cancer.

>>167445665
A headshot sound played when you hit me

what did you do?

>>167445901
>not having at least one blue flasks for when you need FP
you only have to blame yourself

>>167445671
Nah, greatmace 1HR1 into 1HJA is a guaranteed truecombo

do an 1HR1 immediately after a 1H jump attack with any weapon in the game to perform a rolling attack

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>>167445682
>You can actually save him
>It's during a boss fight
>But if he dies, he dies permanently

>>167445682
>Still manage to keep him alive
>He only laughs like Ludwig's NPC and has no further contribution

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>>167446009
>final DLC boss has a special animation of consuming him you can't interrupt

>>167445965
I'm a sorcerer, you fuck, I sure love going back to bonfire over and over again, because I have to fight the Ghrus and use quickstep to get each useful item one at a time.

There is literally no reason not to have rusted iron ring in DS3.

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>>167446009
>>167446168

>>167443926
because he has the blindfold on

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>>167446109

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>>167446168
>He only carries two estus flasks

Any skilled CE wizards here? Is it possible to moveset swap the Hollowslayer GS 2HR1's to a Fume UGS?

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>>167446109

>>167445292
Fucking sweet, I killed both of those faggots. Got an ember, a pale tongue (no idea what the latter is for) and about 6000 souls.

>>167446172
>I'm a sorcerer, you fuck
oh, then you should have at least 4-6 blue flasks, so quickstepping a little ain't a problem for you

>>167446309
grats anon!

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>>167446109
>oh ashen one, glad i survived
>by the way feel free to use anything left in painted world even the painter herself wink wink

>tfw no ugs/ga/gh with quickstep
>tfw no crossbows with a magazine
>tfw no paired (repeating) crossbows
>tfw no strength straight sword

>>167446172
Poison is nowhere near as bad as you're making it seem, also healing is free so if you're ever low just chug. Also as a sorcerer that means that most enemies don't pose any kind of threat to you so just shoot your spells and walk to the items you want and then leave.

>>167446509
>UGS with quickstep
i want this

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>>167446509
>strength straight sword

>>167446447
Thanks man, I think I'mma do more of this, but I may go find this Watchdogs covenant first.

>>167443970
>tfw DLC2 won't take place in Kriemhild's butt
Why live

>>167446320
How many blue flasks do you think getting all the useful items in the swamp takes.

The problem is, it's fucking ass layout for that shithole, the items are spread as fuck. and it gets old real fast.

>>167446579
The poison isn't the problem here, you dimwit, it's the fact it slows you to a crawl when you try to get anywhere.

>>167446468
>Pedofeet fetish
FUCKING JAPANFAGS
GET THE FUCK OFF THE HEAD OF THE DEVELOPING TEAM

>>167446732
I'm pretty sure she's at least few thousands years old.

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check out this guy floundering on Sir Alonne, nearly 40 attempts so far:

twitch/teufelherz

>>167446607
>406 AR
>66 str 2h

>>167446791
still looks like a kid, so it's still pedo

>>167445230
>>167445364
>>167445434

Should I keep the Soul of cinder for later on my character I made for the dlc? I'm sure we will have some convulted shit to have the new ending (if there is one).
I'm sure the painter will paint something very grey with very tall tree

>>167445230
>bring still alive friends from firelink to new painted world
>hold hands with the firekeeper while the outside world enters another age of dark
comfy

I'm so pissed off that the Majula mansion in DS2 isn't your 'main hub'.

>Emerald meme is still found on the beach
>Carhillion will park his ass in front of the big book
>leniggast will set up shop in the attic and upgrade his selection of shit he sells
>Felkin will come to the basement and stare at the wall
>Rosabeth will hang around in the basement with Cale and comment on the flames lighting up on the map

Would be super comfy desu.
Hopefully the next game will have a hub as cozy as the Hunter's Dream and work the same way Nexus/HD does.

>>167446898
>ever going for 66STR
it's 390AR with just 40STR which is excellent for one-stat weapon, anri straight sword tier

>>167446791
LOOPHOLE
You win this time Miyazaki

>>167446791
>your honor, I swear she has the mind of an 18 year old

>>167447016
That'd actually be pretty sick if the solution was to simply shift everyone from the real world to the painted world, where the cycle actually works properly (not counting Friede)

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>>167446808
Cute!

>>167447062
390 AR is pretty low man

at 66 strength it should have 470ish AR when two-handed

>>167447008
Yeah keep him alive. I don't think we'll get a new ending or anything because Miyazaki said the dlcs won't affect the main game and it's themes which have been sufficiently explored in his eyes.

However, after you finish the dlc, it'll be nice to go fight soc and watch the credits roll. Rather than beat dlc final boss>some dialogue with painter>that's it.

>>167447156
nobody but complete retards goes to 66STR
pure str builds are SL~60 territory, a straight sword with those AR is really solid for that range

I'm playing DaS1 for the first time. I've played SotFS, BB and DAS3.

Is resistance worth putting points in to?

Also any other advice is appreciated.

>>167447145
Everything up to a literal baby fuck was okay in the middle ages provided you were married. And since dark souls presents a faux-medieval setting, the morals are roughly the same I guess.

>>167447326
NO
Resistance does fucking nothing
Otherwise, maybe try a sorcery run ebcause it's better than in the other games

FC dead?

>>167447270
nobody but complete retards +10's their weapon at level 60

>>167444521
>>167444527
>a tree that got pissed off at all the people who kept pissing on it
sasuga miyazaki

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>ds3 has been out for almost a year
>still can't make a character with fucking white or blonde hair

>>167447352
I honestly couldn't give a fuck what anyone gets off to but you do realize that "it fits the ingame world" doesn't make you less of a pedo, right?
If I play a hentai game about rape then I still have a rape fetish, even if the game world is built on rape

>>167447404
Alright, thanks. I figured it was useless in a game like this.

>>167446862
Holy shit

>>167447461
level 60 is excellent place to +10 your shit because you will be invading lategame areas anyway

>>167447404
>better than in the other games

lmao what it's so boring in das1 its ez mode

extra 20 AR (593->613) for a ringslot

worth or not?

>>167447560
I'm not even into the painter or lolis, just saying.

>>167447656
Fair point
Personally, I like overpowered shit in RPGs, but that's not universally true
So I should clarify that by "better" I don't mean "more fun" but simply "kills everything faster"
>>167447609
Are you doing a blind run or using the wiki to point you to weapons you want and such?

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>darkmoon for this guy the first time
>kill 2 phantoms and the last one jumps off

>second time we all just emote until an enemy comes and dick him

fun times

>see parrying tool
>turn on iframes

>tfw trying to learn how2 parry but people probably think I'm just some parry spamming faggot

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>fight the last boss from the last boss game
>watch the last cutscene
>it's 5 seconds long
>some character says a single, profound line that answers absolutely nothing
>roll credits

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hey guys i have not played this game in a very long time but lately i'm getting the itch. what are some fun and strong builds and what is the pvp meta level?

>>167447938
I mean, to them there is 0 difference

the only difference is to you, and you can only improve

try parrying the NPC invaders first they're good practice

>>167444347
reminds me of seath's hand, who by the way caused curse

>>167448001
>last boss game
last souls game* fuck i can't even predict the future without fucking up

>>167448001
u rike?

>>167448001
What the fuck do you expect, they made the lore vague on purpose, they won't fucking reveal shit
the purpose is laziness

>Sirris made a vow to me
>Thought it was safe to give a Rosaria the finger
>See Sirris in firelink

I fucked up, didn't I?

>>167448001
There will be new From dark fantasy titles soon, Dark Souls going away will be a less of a deal than you think.

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post fanart

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>>167448001
>go to le reddit to witness the inevitable autistic meltdown
>shitpost in /dsg/

it's the circle of life Anon

>>167448419
it's over you posted the best one

what's the point

>>167447803
Blind. Are quality builds a thing in this one?

>>167448406
fucking darkmoon faggots with their hypocrisy man. Whip out your dong and rape her.

>>167448406
the fingers (darkwraiths) are sworn enemies of the darkmoon blades

don't fuck around

>>167448497
I wouldn't worry too much about ideal builds, making a new one takes almost no time once you know the game but yeah there are
IIRC it's something like 25STR/40 DEX because the softcaps are at 40/40 and you can twohand

>>167446294
y

Dear /dsg/, what's the earliest [if any] boss/level range where I can hope to find any consistent WoS activity for Dark Souls I on PC? I'm trying to get dem miracles but I don't want to wait till I can access Izalith to farm medals and thus have beaten most of the bosses I'm hoping to fight using said miracles.

>>167448880
I fought this guy just now

he sucks like everyone that uses that meme armor

>>167443647
As a sorcerer, how do i beat sir alone in scholar? Is there a place i can summon other real people? The bots die before we enter the room.

Any PW for the FC at Distant Manor? Or just plop my sign down and wait?

>>167449163
2fast to spells at
just hit him with an int-scaling melee weapon

>>167449289
magic mace?

>>167449258

Host left.

>>167449258
Every /dsg/ FC's password is dsg.

And I was just about to ask about that FC. Is it still going on? If not, I might host.

>>167449347
Looks like it's over, feel free to host

>>167449328
what the fuck is this meme with the magic mace anon
you have found more than 1 faintstone by now
you can infuse ANYTHING YOU WANT with magic
you dont just have to use the one weapon that you loot pre-infused

>>167449338
>ending FC without even posting about it

Drake does it again

>>167449453
probably saw a hornet ring riposte and had to go turn off the computer and hide under his covers for a bit tbqh

what set allows me to be the most aerodynamic possible?

>>167448961
Gargoyles.

>>167449443
Oh, well what fucking weapon then?

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>>167448473
thank you, its my magnum opus, second to this probably

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>>167449625
Thanks boss!

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>>167449565

>>167449667
parrying dagger

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It annoys me every time I start up DS3 that the guy in Firelink armour is holding a broadsword instead of the coiled bonfire sword.

>>167449667
whatever the h*ck you want anon
the magic mace isn't any better or worse than any other generic magic-infused weapon

>>167449804
I just cant even get tot his fricken guy to kill him

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>>167449674
>summon Tarkus to help with Iron Golem for the first time
>he dies

>>167449730
Orstein legs might work better

>>167449853
throw a stone ring on so you can stagger the knights more easily at least

unless you use something like MLGS, that can probably stagger them without it

So if I have the Watchdogs covenant equipped, I can go gank newfags in the Woods right?

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>invaded at bonfire before crystal sages
>guy runs around doesn't even bother checking the bonfire
>comes close enough to stand by the crab thats 2 feet away from the bonfire
>still doesn't notice me, despite my bright yellow vestments
>disappears for solid 3 minutes
>suddenly see his health bar
>no way
>he's at farron keep
>goes all the way to the farron wolf judging by the location of his hp bar
>dies
I can't decide whether I should let things like these happen or just go get the HEY gesture right now.

>>167449859
>summon Tarkus for Golem
>Golem immediately throws him off the building within the first ten seconds
.

>>167450065
just wear it and do whatever (as long as you're not in a no-multiplayer zone like firelink or a boss room)

the icon in the top left should be glowing which means you CAN be summoned. it happens automatically, so just go play the game and you'll get pulled out to invade the woods whenever

>install SoTFS for that "refreshing" DS2 experience
>THEY STILL HAVEN'T FIXED HOW POISE WORKS
>greathammer
>nigger invades me with meme small sword and stunlocks me
should have jsut pirated the DLC

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SL ~120 PC FC at High Wall. Pass is dsg
I'm not Drake.

>>167450309
That's how I know you're lying.
Not only greathammers have hyperarmour, but there is also poise in the game (albeit it's very weak).
Time your shit better.

>>167450506
so, hyperarmor is active after I press the attack button or only during certain parts of the attack animation?
I know greathammers don't have super armor for rolling attacks and 2HR2.

>>167450442
Keep the signs on the rafters please

>>167449980
Can i just run past everything?

>>167451005
>or only during certain parts of the attack animation
This.
It makes sense, realistically speaking. First, you have to gather enough momentum for your attack to make it unstoppable.

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>>167447038
>blacksmith working in an attic
How?

>>167447556
But you can make it any color.

>>167447556
What? My character has platinum blonde hair.

>>167451054
that strategy usually works in soulsgames, especially for boss runs, but IIRC the alonne knights are pretty good at shutting it down

>>167447038
>next game
anon... I...

>fighting someone
>everything good, he's good, he's winning and using a fun weapon to fight against
>suddenly pulls a washing pole and spams running r1 for no reason

WHY

WHY YOU HAD TO DO THIS

YOU WERE MY FRIEND

YOU DIDN'T NEED THIS, YOU WERE JUST FINE WITH THE GREATAXE

>>167451417
Every time people do this it's because the other one was being an asshole.

I know because it happens all the time with me, I'll unzip a crossbow the moment I see an ultra and won't stop firing it until they swap the weapon

>>167447038
You know, I'm not a big fan of Majula but I think this would make me appreciate it a lot more.
I'm just more of a fan of the indoors, like Firelink.

>>167451141
I guess you could stick the blacksmith in the basement. Point is that it would be really cozy.

Also, would be neat if you could choose your hub to a certain degree in the next From not-souls game, or have your faction allegiance determine what areas you could use as safe hubs or not.

>>167451498
How is using an ultra being an asshole, exactly?

As a sorcerer trying to kill Sir Alonne, what is the best weapon I should be using to kill it? It can be anything because stats isnt really a problem. I have 20 in about everything atleast

>>167451417
I'm guessing that you became passive once your health was low and he got tired of it

can't blame him

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>Farron Meme Dart

There's no words to describe my rage at this dinky little annoying shit

>>167451394
From has already confirmed that they're working on a new dark fantasy title that uses similar mechanics to Soulsborne. It will just be similar to the shift we saw from Dark Souls to Bloodborne or from DeS to Dark but it'll not be called Souls or borne.

>>167451589
ultras are the coolest + most fun weapons

but theyre complete shit against the "reactive pvp" meme, which sucks

>>167450252
Sweet ass. How often does it normally happen?

>>167451726
I'm never passive, I hate passive fighting more than anything.

>>167451803
You're not making any sense
I'm an asshole because I'm using a shit weapon?

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>>167451783
>it's either this or swordceries

>>167451872
im not that anon
im saying that UGS aren't asshole weapons, theyre the coolest to fight with + against

>>167451589
I mean when the other guy unzips a meta weapon, you were likely being an asshole to him.
You'll probably say you're not passive or not a meta shitter yourself, but you likely did something he did not like.

I like pushing people to give up on their cool but shit weapons, which is why I act as an asshole myself too, like with the crossbows versus ultras

I'm bored /dsg/ what souls and what build?

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>>167443787

If I have the cat covenant ring on, does it prevent people from using my soapsign?

>>167451692
Literally anything works as long as you're good at dodging. The fight is more about not letting him kill you, than it is about you trying to kill him.

>>167451991
Well I'm using Morne's GH and Force, maybe he didn't like being throw on the ground?

>>167452008
PAULDRONS

>>167452008
>those traps
unf, THICC

>>167451716
what if i'm immune to curses

>>167450442
I'm SL140, is that okay?

>>167451803
>>167451991
what
what if
what if i outpassive their passiveness?..

>>167452434
You can come, but other people might not like it.

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>>167452287
did somebody say traps

>>167451716
>no playing passive with ultras

I don't get this meme
how else I'm supposed to play when I have 20 seconds recovery frame
you expect me to be all aggressive and full of opening so you dish your full combo while I'm on negative stamina?

>>167452447
then you get the worst fate of all: not having any fun

>>167452645
you can try to bait them into dumb shit by whiffing r1s when they're too far away to actually punish

how much effectiveness do you lose in DS2 by buffing a weapon with an element it's not infused with? or one that's infused with something else?

>>167452732
>you can try to bait them into dumb shit by whiffing r1s when they're too far away to actually punish
only dead brain idiots fall for that

wait i have the perfect plan

regen build on a UGS so when the enemy tries to passivereactivememe you, you just sit on your ass and get F R E E H P

>>167452797
yeah thats the problem
Ultras more than any other weapon class rely on your enemy fucking up for you to get a hit in. players who just wait don't fucking do anything don't fuck up either

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>invaded so much in ds3 that ds1 invasions seem extremely dull and too effortless to cause any feeling of satisfaction
Am i alone in this?
Yeah you shit down the throats of cooping faggots but when there's literally no chance they can counter you it feels kinda dull.
Not to mention there's no obscuring ring.

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>Earth Seeker WA doe less damage than a single R1
>awful scaling
>generic moveset

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING

>>167451986
they are all passive shitters what the fuck are you talking about nigger

anyone have some shaders

>>167452994
on the other hand you don't need to play like a huge asshole to actually win a DS1 invasion, and it has levels that are very interesting like sens or blighttown

>>167452994
t. twink

High level forestfagging or anor londo invading is harder than any non meta level invading in 3

>>167453043
in terms of damage it's actually okay on str/fai
but generally it's the only dlc weapon that i consider awful
still better than trash equipment in previous souls dlcs, at least it's not lightsaber or sorcerer twinblade

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>>167452610
>Gwyndolin

So why do so many people hate on DS3? Is this sincere or is it just a meme? I just finished DS1 not all that long ago and it's one of my favorite games ever, and I'm only partway into DS3, but so far I'm loving it every bit as much as the first one. I couldn't get into DS2 but why do people hate on 3?

>>167453129
>and it has levels that are very interesting like sens or blighttown
DS3 has even more interesting levels. Farron swamp invasions are a fucking nightmare for the host.
I always played like a complete asshole in DS1 so i don't know any difference.

Holy shit, I just want to do some co-op on Dancer.

Every single phantom I've got just die really easily and no one had the dark hand or any other weapon that deals more damage on her.

One phantom in particular didn't die immediately, but he must have run out of estus flasks, because he just thought he'd sit the rest of the fight out.

I had to kite the motherfucking dancer to a phantom that ran off into a corner for free souls. Fuck these people, I just want some jolly co-op.

>>167452925
>regen build on a UGS so when the enemy tries to passivereactivememe you, you just sit on your ass and get F R E E H P
Mornes GH/Lothric UGS then?
Those should fit nicely into a fai regen build.

>>167453273
Because Dark Souls 3 is "hey remember Dark Souls?"
At least 2 tried to be its own game.

>>167453273
>so many people
a few shitposters here and on /v/ living in zelda cycles aren't "many people"

>>167453273
>I couldn't get into DS2 but why do people hate on 3?

three general camps

>people who have broken brains that like DS2 more than 1, mad that DS3 largely kicks that game to the curb

>people who like a playstyle that was nerfed from DS1 even though the game was trying to cater to DS1 fans

>People really into the lore that don't like the direction DS3 went

every time i want to go back to play DS2 i remember adaptability
could've been a good game otherwise

For the sir aluune fight, I was thinking of a partizan or washing pole. Any thoughts?

Do we know an recommended SL level for the Ringed City?

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>>167453075
you have to be passive with ultras
each attack is 1/3 or 1/4 of your stamina bar, if you be aggressive you can easily be punished

>>167453165
>in terms of damage it's actually okay on str/fai
Picture

40 str 0 faith, both Greataxe and Yhorms outdamage the Earth Seeker with 40 str 40 faith. And they both have better WAs, and Yhorm's is way longer

it's not okay at all

>>167453409
or perhaps..........................................

>>167453529
SL 50

>>167453431
>the lore
I don't even understand where people get all of this from tbqhwy. I fucking love these games but they might as well not even have stories at all. Same for Bloodborne.

>>167453431
>like a playstyle that was nerfed from DS1
So, BSfishing? Because stuff like STR, bleed and overall magic is undeniably better in 3.

>>167453431
>People really into the lore that don't like the direction DS3 went
do those actually exist?
ds3 is a pretty careful with as far as direct sequels go and adds a lot of interesting stuff
no "shards of manus" or "gwyn's soul somehow ended up being in volcano"-tier bullshit

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Gotta go get dinner, will be back for more FC goodness later

Farron Dart a shit

>>167453491
Of all the things to complain about in DaS2, Adaptability is the one you have a problem with? Not Soul Memory, not shitty world inter-connectivity, not unchallenging bosses, not lack of non-cracked eye orbs?

>>167453550
I saddens me to know that From is most likely to nerf Yhorm's than buff all the other greataxes.

>>167453621
lore is not story, it's backstory

people read item descriptions or random bits of flavor text npc's say and combine it into a mostly coherent story. it's kind of like fanfiction

>>167453636
Poisefaggots, dexfaggots upset that now they need to go quality, especially dexpyrofags, low level elemental weapon twinks.

When using a spear on an enemy withi weak thrust defense, what should I infuse that spear with? raw?

>>167453805
>lore is not story, it's backstory
Right, I got you but I don't guess I worded my reply properly.

Honestly I think it's pretty cool that they include enough info tucked away for people to be able to assemble it that way, I just don't have the attention span for it personally. Cool game design though.

>>167453491
>>167453771
adaptability is a really awful mechanic but once you get what it does it's fine, you can get away with only 99 agility

the garbage animation is what kills it for me

>>167453881
ds3? depends on your stats obviously
refined if you have good str and dex
you can see the samage in the infuse menu, just pick whichever has the most physical damage

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What is the level meta in DS2 now?

>>167453990
Good luck trying to "meta" with that Soul Memory bullshit.

>>167453965
ds2

>>167454161
yeah, thought they would have fixed that by now. But I only saw a ring that absorbed souls instead.

A fucking shit.
Is my soul memory too high for my level?, I kinda fucked up upgrading other shit.

in DS2, I know that casters need to diversify. you can't focus on spells, so you need a weapon. and weapons need stat investments. should I only raise my stats until I can one-hand the melee weapon of my choosing and then focus on my casting stats? it seems like a delicate scenario: either my melee will suffer from investing in casting stats, or my casting will suffer from investing in melee stats, or every bit of my existence will suffer if I level everything evenly.

>>167453748
>not liking the dart

>>167454256
well then probably uninfused if you aren't a magic build
raw can be better if you have very low stats but for most characters with most weapons is worse than nothing

>>167454259
>Is my soul memory too high for my level?

Not really, actually I think you did really well.

can you dartcast soul spear into farron dart
to get a dart with the soulspear cast animation instead of doing a soulspear with the dart animation

>>167454303
Go for low requirement weapons, as all casters should. Or weapons that scale with your casting stat/have element associated with your casting stat.

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>>167454435
FARRON DART A

S H I T
H
I
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>>167454303
>should I only raise my stats until I can one-hand the melee weapon of my choosing and then focus on my casting stats?
yes, exactly this

take a weapon you like, get the requirements (two handing is 2x strength and not 1.5), infuse it with whatever element you use and then add a buff if you have one

it's very effective

>>167454530
well, I played DS2 before the DLC, so mostly died to the new bullshit a few times, HOLY FUCK THEY BUFFED THE FIRE LIZARDS now they're bullshit.

>>167454303
Do as you say, only raise your stats until you can one-hand your melee weapon
The real trick is getting a weapon with high scaling on your relevant stat, then infusing it - for faith, the Heide Knight sword infused with lightning is fantastic, especially once you can cast sunlight blade on it
Which type of spellcasting are you going for?

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>he still does it

the absolute madman

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What are the chances of shadow crabs in final DLC?
If there's a species that will make it to the end of a world at the end of times, it's those motherfuckers.

>>167454303
Getting the stats to one-hand the weapon of your choice, or power-stance if the requirements are low enough, is the general rule of thumb for spellsword builds. Since infusing the weapon reduces the physical scaling, it's pointless to invest too much into Str/Dex.

Just remember that it never hurts to have a reliable source of physical damage, since the DLCs will shit on casters. Santier's Spear is a good option since it has zero scaling, anything else that can benefit from Raw is also good. If you're a sorcerer then Enchanted Major League Great Sword is a decent option so long as you don't care about the sword beams.

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>>167453748
>>167454435
>>167454587
Great Deep Soul and Deep Soul are better than dart or fire surge

Another guy who loves magic builds here, is going sorcerer/hexer a good idea for my very first DS2 run? Are pure physical weapons still miles better than physical/magic split?

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>>167454942
Explain yourself

>>167455046
It's super viable outside of DLC.

>>167455135
Is every DLC built to fuck mages?

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>>167454942
>Great Deep Soul
>better than fire surge

>>167455130
Deep souls costs very little fp and you regain 2/3 the stamina it takes to cast inbetween casts. They both home very strongly and Great Deep Souls does over 200 damage. You can often bait someone into getting hit by Dark Edge using Deep Soul for even more damage.

>>167454942

Dart I buy. No way that's better than Fire Surge.

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>in ng+
>keep getting more estus shards and undead bone shards
>can't sell them
>picklepum crow won't trade for them
Why?

>>167455170
Pretty much. Sometimes you catch a break with an enemy weak to an element, but physical is better in every DLC.
>Sunken King
Most enemies are resistant to magic and lightning, about neutral on dark and fire
>Old Iron King
Mostly weak to lightning, resistant to magic and fire
>Ivory King
Resistant to magic and lightning, average on dark and fire

>>167455301
Dark edge sucks though, deep soul is good but please, don't ever pretend dark edge is good in any situation

>>167455616
Well now I don't wanna play a mage anymore

champion gundyr is a fucking faggot

>dodge his 200 hit combo
>hit him once
>get kicked
>get 1-shot while I'm on the ground

>>167455643
Dark Edge is only useful when paired with Deep Soul. Nobody gets hit by it without being baited into it with some sort of homing spell.

>>167455643
Its got good tracking and a wide hitbox

>>167455046
hex/pyro is the only good ds2 build, the spells are the only things with really satisfying animations and because of how stats/soul memory work you can do a melee + buff build for variety

>>167455684
you can get the moonlight greatsword and give it the "enchanted" infusion. mlgs usually does magic only damage, but with the enchanted infusion it does pure physical damage which scales with your intellect. you'll be able to clear each dlc easily with that weapon

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FC is awfully crowded. Please be patient when waiting to be summoned. Also, if the lower platform is being used please fight in the upper area if more than one person is waiting.

>>167455684

that's why you use a side weapon, even if it deals magic damage it will cut through them well enough

>>167454942
>better than fire surge
You must not know how to use it.

>>167455906
>but with the enchanted infusion it does pure physical damage
How does that make sense
>>167455789
Is magic strictly better than wailing at things with melee in the main game, the same way it was in 1?
>>167455992
Yeah I was just thinking by the time I get to the DLC I will probably have hit the soft cap on whatever I need for magic and gotten a bunch of STR and/or DEX

>>167456057
>Is magic strictly better than wailing at things with melee in the main game, the same way it was in 1?
you can't get as crazy damage multipliers as DS1 after all the patches ds2 has had, but given that ds2 has lots of crowds of enemies being able to 3-4 shot people at a distance while backpedaling is real handy

and again, you can switch to melee easily

>>167456057
enchanted infusion always converts magic damage to physical

the MLGS is just the only weapon that's pure magic damage instead of having 200 physical 100 magic or something

>>167456178
I forgot that DS2 is all about crowds
It might be mroe fun to just git gud at rolling and darting in and out of groups instead of cheesing them from 500 meters away with magic
>>167456198
>enchanted infusion always converts magic damage to physical
Yeah I'm just saying that doesn't make sense since enchanted was just magic++ in 1

Got DS3 for Christmas. Been playing it heavily the last few weeks. Enjoying it greatly. It's a nice amalgamation of the previous Souls games plus Bloodborne. Easily a more polished game than DS2.

I get the familiarity critique, but it hasn't dampened my experience. There's enough new things here that keep me coming back for more.

My biggest complaints are the camera and PVP. Camera and targeting an enemy feels more problematic than DS1. With DS3 trying to replicate the fast-paced combat of Bloodborne with certain enemies, the camera can never catch up for my character to react properly. Past few PVP matches I've had always lags. There's always a delay with attacks; making it hard to fight strategically.

How's the DLCs so far?

>>167455684
Don't worry, you make mincemeat of most other enemies, especially when you get to high level - magic is what people use when they're trying for 'one shot' boss challenge runs
Really, the power drop is the difference between wiping out enemies and being 'only' as effective as other play styles
Plus, once you get to the point where you start doing DLCs you're high enough level and probably have enough resources and Soul Vessels to respec as needed for each one.
Or just go Dark, because you end up equally as effective with every type of magic thanks to high INT and FTH

>Strong Attack of the following weapons changed to Great Lunge (Strong Attack of the weapon Great Club): Demon's Greataxe, Earth Seeker, Blacksmith Hammer, Vordt's Great Hammer
>Faith scaling of the following weapons added/vastly improved: Lothric's Holy Sword, Wolnir's Holy Sword, Profaned Greatsword, Earth Seeker, Great Mace, Morne's Great Hammer
>Fixed a bug where the Great Mace would not leave light bombs after being buffed with Blessed Weapon
>Estus Block of the weapon Soldering Iron vastly improved (40s)
>Vow of Silence duration vastly improved (40s)
>Improving your Strength now will also improve your Equip Load slightly
>Fixed a bug where Sacred Oath would not work properly in PvP
>Casting speed and hyperarmor of the miracles Wrath of the Gods, Divine Pillars of Light and Way of White Corona vastly improved
>Animations that cast AoE effects such as Firestorm and Divine Pillars of Light now protect you from backstabs and actively seek targets

>>167456331
>Or just go Dark, because you end up equally as effective with every type of magic thanks to high INT and FTH

kinda. dark builds are also pyro builds, but your sorcery/miracle damage and buff length will fall behind.

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There are 5-6 signs whenever someone dies. A second host at the same location would help.

>>167456317
The first DLC sucked fucking ass, not worth the price in any way.

The second DLC comes out in a month and a half, it remains to be seen whether or not it'll be good.

>>167456547
>dark builds are also pyro builds
why

What does /dsg/ think of the Fallen Knight set in DS3? Seems to be statistically good, it isn't too heavy for my current VIT, and it looks cool. I prefer the Northern helm though.

>>167456547
True, I think I'm viewing it with high-level-tinted glasses - when I say high INT and FTH I mean 60/60 which in hindsight takes quite a while to get to

But either way, two damage type beat being limited to either of the other two

>>167456773
dark scaling is int/faith, but only based on whatever has the lower number. this means you need 30/30 or 40/40

pyro builds are int + faith, so you could do 20/40 or 10/50 or like dark 30/30 and get the same numbers

now granted pyro damage is more from upgrading your hand, but there's a definite overlap

>>167456507
>Estus Block
it's not even an estus block
it's something like a 30% reduction in estus healing

>>167456930
I thought pyro flame scales with STR

>>167456954
what the fuck were they thinking

>>167456673
I wanna touch Ciaran's tummy.

>>167457060
no?
fire RESISTANCE scales with str in das3

>>167456507
>>167456954
>>167457086
I wish it was good, its so pretty.

So let me get this straight: In DS2, weapon upgrades work by you just slapping titanite on a weapon, and completely independently of that, you can just infuse it with whatever the fuck you want at any time? And if you have a weapon that already scales with INT or FTH then you can really just put whatever the hell on there because infusions only reduce scaling from STR and DEX?
The fuck?

>>167456317
Oh great, more tripfags...
Why do you think we give a shit who you are?

DLC is fine, it's just short. It also has some fun weapons in it, especially if you're playing DEX character, but you could just ask someone to drop you the weapons.

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>>167457236
tummy is such an uncomfortable word

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>>167443787

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Signs are a bit more reasonable 3-4 instead of 5-7. I don't need a second host anymore.
>>167457236

>>167456854
If I had to pick an armour set with soiled pants from any of the games, it would be top 3 haha

>>167456854
Its kinda shitty

>>167457782
Kek soiled pants?

>>167457616
Yes - same as in 3, the upgrade level is purely regular titanite and independent of the infusion you've given it
Certainly beats the hell out of farming green titanite shards and coloured chunks

>>167457693
because it sounds like cummy, which happens in a cunny

>>167457776
I was talking about character not you Max you silly goose

>>167457841
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Fallen+Knight+Trousers

>>167457616
>you can really just put whatever the hell on there
not really
infusions DO reduce int/fth scaling as well
you should use the infusion of the same element the weapon already has, to increase the elemental damage + spellstat scaling

das2 infusions are less a "choice" than just "pick whichever one is obvious for your build"
str/dex uninfused, mundane builds do mundane, int builds do magic, fth builds do lightning, hex builds do either dark or fire... (probably dark because it synergises more with the dark weapon buff)

>>167457840
What do you dislike about it? The looks or something about the stats? In the latter case, be specific. I'm still figuring out what matters and what doesn't stats-wise in this one.

>>167457616
The general rule of thumb is that infusions reduce the scaling of everything that they're not buffing. The odd one out is the Bleedstone, which raises Fire scaling for some fucking reason.

If a weapon already has scaling in a certain element, and you infuse it to that same element, it loses less scaling in other areas and gains increased scaling in that element. And these weapons can be further buffed to the same element for even more bonus damage.

DaS3 only got halfway there with the infusion system, too bad you can't buff infused weapons otherwise casters might actually be good.

>>167457959
>Bleedstone, which raises Fire scaling for some fucking reason
not on everything
just some specific weapons like chaos rapier IIRC

>>167457947
The set has a crappy reputation

>>167457905
Kek I didn't notice that. Oh well. The torso piece is cool looking.

>>167457909
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/moonlight-greatsword
I might be reading it wrong since infusion and upgrade level is separate, but it looks like all the elemental infusions make it go from A to S scaling in INT