/rpgmg/ - RPG Maker General #188

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The other thread died with only 288 posts. Come on anons gotta keep it alive

New Yanfly comic btw: http://yanfly.moe/2017/02/04/comic-lets-make-a-database/

Okay anons, answer me these questions 3

1. How big is your database?
2. How do you make your database?
3. What's the worst part of database work for you?

Page 10 already? No!

>>167411219
I've got 45 character in a game and I gave them unique classes and skills. I still have to make the enemies, troops, items, and special animations.
1. It's gonna be big.
2. One piece at a time, from top tab to bottom.
3. Animations: how do they work?

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>>167411124
>mfw i really do make everything up on the spot

>>167413740
Congratulations, you are a Ralph like me.

>>167414102
I was going to post "a what?" but then i realized i was retarded.

>>167411124

>Ralph is a bit too plugin reliant

Man that drives me crazy. I'm always seeing people saying stuff like "is there a plugin for basic treasure chests".

If you go to a room and all the doors you check say "It's stuck", would you try checking them again, try to use items or just assume that you ended up in a dead end and close the game?

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hell yeah

If you post progress, the thread doesn't have to die!

>>167416707
Depends on what I learned from previous gameplay, but otherwise I would just check them again.
Items don't come to my mind unless it tells me I'd need one.

>>167418205
I have 20 out of 75 skills down and finalized.

>>167416707
If you want players to try using items on a door, you should have an item selection window pop up. Don't require the player to open the menu.

ANY DEMOS
?

seeing other people's progress inspires me to work on my game.

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>>167411219
1. About 144 skills not counting the enemy skills. Though most of those are identical other than element and status.

2. I made placeholders before hand, besides for the enemies which I'm making up as I go along.

3. Being done with it, database work is fun.

>need to grab a plugin for stealing
Why do they do this?

>>167422837
>database work is fun.
This, much more fun than putting together maps. Although that's probably because my tilesets absolutely blow.

>>167420657
soon anon ;-;
right now I'm working on going back and making houses and shit so my towns aren't empty or all just locked doors

>>167419543
What I want the player to do is checking the door 4 times before he manages to open it (note that the message would change slightly every time you check). I was just wondering if someone would close the game before doing that. Or if, for example, somebody would equip an Axe and then try checking again.

>>167425338
>player to do is checking the door 4 times before he manages to open it
that's way too many times, there's really no point in that. it adds nothing to the gameplay and its not a "puzzle", it will just confuse people

>>167425338
I would move on expecting that this door is just decorative.

>>167425338
Speaking from personal experience, I would most likely close the game (if that was a dead end and there was no where else to go). I think you may want to make it clear from the first interaction with the door that it needs to be interacted with multiple times. Something like "The door is locked, but..." and then something that clues the player on interacting with it again. I don't know the circumstance of why it opens after 4 uses so I can't give you a clear example, but make sure the hint isn't vague enough to be misconstrued as something else. (like, don't say "but pushing on it might be enough to force it open" because some people might think that means running back and forth into the door without pressing use)

>>167425951
But if the player just opens it on the second attempt, it doesn't really feel "stuck", IMO.

Also, note the messages go "It is stuck", "It is stuck...", "It moved a little", "Some kind of wood broke! It is open now! ".

It is supposed to teach the player to check objects multiple times.

>>167425989
But you are trapped in the room.

>>167426438
That seems too obvious to me. Wouldn't the ability to save inside the room indicate that it isn't a dead end?

>>167426718
If you're trapped in the room, and the room isn't too big, and there aren't many (if any) other objects in the room, than it might be fine. Is it also the only door in the room?

I still think you should include a hint when first interacting with the door. It might be too obvious, but if this is suppose to teach you that interacting with objects multiple times is necessary, than I don't see that much of a problem. It also just makes sense, if the door is able to be opened after a few uses, then I think it should be apparent with every interaction that it is coming closer to being opened fully. Otherwise is seems like a bit of an ass pull that jingling with a doorknob a few times managed to break open the door.

>>167426718
>It is supposed to teach the player to check objects multiple times.
that's a horrible game mechanic, lazy writing. make actual puzzles to solve, not filler time-wasting shit.

>>167427328
This

>>167411069
LF Humble Bundle 2 link, the one listed doesn't work. Looking for Classic School Tiles to be more specific.

Anyone can post some "evolved" skills? I want to see how to balance the damage between an early game one and a mid game one.

>>167428503
it really depends on your numbers, my dude.

>>167416797

Hell yeah

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I should've set a limit for myself making this game.
I'm already making the 11th dungeon and I have 3 more planned.

>>167429167
godDAMN mv's tilesets are so incredibly bad
i'm just gonna parallax the shit out of everything using FSM's resources from 2k3

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>there was an RPG Maker DS

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I am having a big issue with the current SV setup, somehow the enemy being on the left side of the screen just doesn't feel right.

Any ways to make my battles look like this or should I just settle with the current setup?

>>167430012
ya and it was poo but the resources are pretty ok

>>167430015
>enemy being on the left side of the screen
Haven't you ever played Final Fantasy?

Can any musicfags give me some feedback on this? It's the first thing I've done that didn't make me throw up after reahearing it a day later.
https://soundcloud.com/kami-46088156/spacelab

>>167430015
>Any ways to make my battles look like this
Learn to JavaScript. It isn't that hard.

>>167430219
7,8,X and 12, uninstalled 13 after the first 30 minutes.

>>167430015
in yanflys battle core plugin you can set the x and y values of your battlers, and you can easily move the enemies to the right bu just moving the sprites on the troop page

>>167430459
Huh. Well, 7's got your battlers on the right, and so do 1 through 6. Also other SQEX games like Bravely Default and Bahamut Lagoon.

Any tips on designing characters?

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Slight redesign. Is this alright? It's also meant to be somewhat... boring if that makes sense.

>>167431581
I'd say you should switch the double doors and the benches around

>>167432001
Those were going to be tables, kek. I still need to rework them. It's supposed to be tables that have complimentary snacks that apartment lobbies sometimes have. Like free coffee or muffins or something.

>>167431581
Maybe add a painting or two

>>167430601
Thanks Anon.
>>167430647
Yeaaah but it just doesn't feel right to me, maybe it's because how I imagine the battles to look but this is simply bothering me.

>>167432707
yeah I grew up on paper mario so the FF looks weird

>>167432445
Noted. I'll create a few.

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>>167431370
I use the MV character creator to mock something up, and then I redraw it myself with modifications.

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Post progress!

One of three towns in my game.
Fuck RTP, but I'm too lazy to find another tileset.

>>167435234
Just modify the RTP. It's really not that hard and can make your game look at least a little unique.

Just changing the color or adding a few pixels can make your game look different.

>>167435234
You're missing some shadow on the right most point of that pier.

>>167435828
I didn't notice that. Thanks.

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>>167430601
Using this method I was only able to move the MC sprite, but the casting, shadow and enemy attack still connect at the default position.
This is the furthest I could push the enemy to the right because of my 16:9 aspect ratio.
I knew it was to simple to be true.

Also they keep moving in the wrong direction while attacking, but I was hoping to eliminate that completely.

I guess I'll just have to live with what I have, It's not that big of a problem.
>>167435234
Oh man I LOVE IT! It really captures the feeling of a beach town, I can already smell the fresh air and feel the cold ocean winds.

>>167435234
Looking good bump!
I haven't even started my maps yet.

>>167435234
Looks... really big. Like, a pain in the ass to navigate. It also desperately needs decoration. This is a good start, but it's not finished.

>>167435234
Looks nice

>>167418930
I'm down to just 17 more skills to go!

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How do you get away with ripping off monster designs, scenes and music?

>>167441972
Call it a homage and avoid directly stealing assets.

>>167435028
those look pretty good desu senpai

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>>167442043
But what if my whole main enemy is based of an already existing enemy from another game?

aka ugly humans who transform into demons

>>167436581
you did something wrong, the shadows and animations shouldnt be on the other side of the screen still
also, to make them move the correct way when attacking make their step distance negative so the move the correct direction
you can manually set the x and y of your enemies by editing the database files

>>167442518
>ugly humans who transform into demons
Just do it, the concept is hardly original

>>167442518
Well, I presume you'd have to add your own little spin to it. Like changing the type of personality.

>>167442518
Meh. Just apply some changes.

Here you have Zudd, the three-horned demon goat

>>167442628
>>167436581
btw, to manually set the x and y coordinates, open up data/Troops.json and edit this file

>>167442518
Who cares. Literally all of my content is stolen. If I wanted to profit off of it, I'd just alter minor details and if anyone says shit tell them it's inspired.

>>167430246
I fixed the link bump

>>167443948
I like it, reminds me of earthbound

>>167441160
I finished all 2 skills for each character!
Now I guess I'll write up the antagonists and areas.

it's not an ''rpg'' but if its made on rpg maker it still counts right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSIjegyAmdk&feature=youtu.be

>>167446653
Sure

>>167446653
Damn, that looks nice.

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>>167449136
>>167442427
What do you guys see in that content that I am missing?
Are my standards too high?

>>167449413
I mean it's impressive for being made in RPG maker.

>>167446653
at that point just use game maker

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>>167449764
rpg maker is more comfy

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So my MC battler sprite sheet is 4200x3000-something, is this going to be an issue and cause lag?
I plan the monsters have the same sized sprites (512x512)x15 images on a single .png

>>167450549
No idea, only one way to find out Anon

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What the fuck is this shit, how am I supposed to find solutions to my problems when all forums threads have been deleted?

>>167454146
you can ask here

>>167454146
I've been using the google cache for the last couple days, but >>167454418 is right too.

>>167454418
Not him, but how can I edit positions of enemy actors in VE's actors battlers if I do something with knockback? (VX Ace)

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>>167454418
I don't want to be a nuisance but I guess I have no choice.

So I've installed Kadokawas SVActorPosition plugin and it's apparently not working, no matter how I chance Actor 1 (my only battler) parameters nothing happens when I test the battle.

I have the 1.3 version of MV.

>>167454146
They weren't deleted, it's just that some dumbass thought it was a good idea to change how the urls were formatted. You can find the thread by changing the url to the current format.

>>167454676
>>167455171
That, that seems to work to see the threads, however I still cannot find out why >>167455113 isn't working
I have YEP core and battle core installed with like 3 other plugins.

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Threadly request.

Does anyone know the Script Call command for Set Move Route in MV? Particularly, I'm after the Repeat = 'true' part of it.

I know how to do all the individual stuff inside the move route, like setting transparancy, change image, set opacity, and even the Route commands themselves, but doing so skips the Wait, Skip, and Repeat parts of the Set Move Route option.

And because this type of question is almost always met with "Well why bother with a Script Call at all? :^)", the reason is because I want to reference the events by variable instead of repeating the same code xx times for every possible enemy.

>>167457229
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Oa0cRGpjC8L5JO8vdMwOaYMKO75dtfKDOetnvh7OHs/edit#gid=0

>tfw the call for set move route isnt there.

I'm going to make a modern city that involves two mafia-style factions fighting each other.
How should I go about making a map like this?
Also I noticed there is a frame-rate lag on huge maps, so should I just split them up?

>>167458418
Use an "overworld map" esque city with points of interest. You can walk around the city at large and areas you can enter pop up. That's the first thing that came to my mind.

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How the fuck am I supposed to make my enemies look cool if I only have 3 frame of animation available?

Why is MV so lame?

>>167458418
I'm also working on making a large scale city map. I highly suggest splitting them to within 50-150 units width and height.

>>167458561
The only limitation is your ability to code. Others have done multi-frame battlers. I think there may even be a plugin for it somewhere. I love MV, and I've been using the maker for like 16 years.

>>167458418
Mobsters usually have a turf in which they control the business, so splitting the map up would be a good idea

>>167458560
>>167458634
>>167458762
I decided to draw it out first, will post mapshots when I get to actual map making.

safety bump

>>167458418
Make a town in which a river divides the town in 2 parts.
Each mafia has their own side of the river.

>>167461090
This

>>167455113
Still didn't figure this shit, YEP Row Formation don't work for what I want.

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>>167458410
I know. It was the first place I checked. My work-around werks, but I find it silly when a single line of code would do the same.

>>167462392
Somehow it's working now, I won't question it, I'm just glad it does.

>>167463275
Not the other Anon but I googled a bit and it is somewhat complicated and not doable in a single line.

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>>167465398
Do you have a link? I googled it as well and couldn't find anyone talking how to do it with MV.

Looking at the core js files of the game though, it should just be a matter of building up the moveRouteList or moveRouteIndex - particularly this mambajamba in pic related. However, all attempts of interacting with anything .moveRoute or ._moveRoute via Script Call either causes the event to run once (no repeat) or does nothing at all.

Even if it takes a couple of lines to get all the fiddly bits right, anything is better than a 14 line block with a loop and a new variable needing to be run through for every single frame of the game.

>>167465840
http://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?threads/javascript-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread.46341/page-8#post-501680
Scroll down a little, there is also a little something on the next page.
I don't really understand how this works, though.

>>167466267
Thank you. I'll give it a look.

>>167466267
>it's run through $game._interpreter and codes
Whoa, no wonder. I had a feeling after I cracked open a map js it might need a special way to reference the parameters, but not this... straightforward.

So, does your game have waifus?

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Okay added a painting and some extra stuff.

What other paintings should I make? What would make you laugh/fee/like to see as paintings/posters?

Or signs?

>>167468765
"Modern Art"

>>167468931
"Modern" ""Art""?

>>167469498
Or "Modern (((Art)))"?

>>167468684
Yes and she's very cute and complex.

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>got my over sized sprites into positions as close as possible to the initial idea
>made background template
>"came up"(i swear everything has already been invented) with a new enemy archetype
>came up with some more characters backstory
>improved beginning story
>got at least 3 more hours before I'm completely drained

How's your day going /rpgmg/?

>>167471572
Worked on a tileset and completed three floors of a plot-important building.

Planned out some of the open city map via spreadsheets.

>>167471767
>three floors of a plot-important building
That's pretty fucking great.
I dread the day when I'll actually have to make assets and shiet.

>>167471572

Contemplating how to go about my maps.

The setting is a modern-ish urban area. The MC lives in an apartment and travels to work via public transit. He goes to work in an office building. I may add in some extra places once the story develops.

My dilemma is overworld vs open world. I know the overworld will be much less work and make it easier for the player to travel. The open world will let the player feel more immersed, more work for me and harder for the player to travel.

I'm leaning towards overworld. I don't want to disappoint the player by creating a lackluster world. When the NPC's don't say anything useful or exciting it's kind of annoying. The only game, oddly enough, that had a good open world sense to me was Shenmue 1. The english acting was bad but you felt like they were real people and had knowledge and a life they lived. The overworld lets me put more into the area maps where there is actual story, not just some random street next to a bike shop that never needs the player to go there.

>>167471979
urban areas usually have too much going on to do open-world. You'd need a lot of people walking by who you really CAN'T talk to, just to show the sheer scale of population.

public transpo is an easy way to do overworld: just have the player travel along the rails.

>>167471572
Added events and encounters to the 5th region of my game.
Redid equipment stats because one character had too much defense.
About to work on an emotion scene, but not sure the best way to do it.

>>167472320
Very valid points. My game was probably going to have very bland, generic NPC's that are easy to spot. But creating those events and making them do things and varying that movement is just too much to make interesting.

Yeah he'll probably ride the bus or subway(haven't decided yet) to get to work but he might walk to go to local places like the grocery store or a friend's house.

Is it wrong to just use the per-made maps?
How do you feel about it?

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>>167471979
>The setting is a modern-ish urban area. The MC lives in an apartment and travels to work via public transit. He goes to work in an office building.
>>167472586
>My game was probably going to have very bland, generic NPC's
>he'll probably ride the bus or subway
Are you trying to kill your audience with boredom?
Why give RPGMaker an even worse reputation?

>>167472830
Because not everybody wants to play a fucking zero-to-hero goodguy shill who has to kill stupid enemies to further their cause with long ass battles, 30,000 skills that change with their weapons, shape of the moon, the underwear you're wearing and the number of times you complimented your waifu during the last fetch quest.

>>167471979
You can try doing connected closed maps, but make it so that those maps have details NPCs that evolve over the span of your game. Try to make it feel like there's a world beyond the map through dialogue and story, but you're just experiencing what's happening on your usual route to the grocery store.

>>167468684

There's one waifu, but she's not playable. You'll have to settle for a pile of husbandos instead.

>Haven't made any maps in rpg maker in forever
>lost my touch and they look weird now
Time to just parralax 'em again.
>>167473069
Calm down, you can make any sort of game you want.
>>167473165
>a pile of husbandos
Are you me?

>>167468684
Yes. One gets married though.

Stay alive Thread-chan

How did you decide upon your game's villain?

>>167478502
I haven't yet....

>>167478502
Literally this >>167478556
But for the smaller bosses I'm actually basing them on characters I hate in other stories.
Like the likeness of a tsundere in this one anime is an army general abusing her troops.

>>167478502
The story needed him

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>>167478502
The most iconic and best design becomes the villain.

I have so many great characters already I am honestly torn which to make the enemy, and which the foe.

>>167479634
Let the player be the foe

>>167479634
>which to make the enemy
>which the foe.
Being awake for 20 hours can do that to your brain.

>>167479715
Stop spoiling my plot

>>167480016
I-I'm sorry Anon-chan

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>>167479634
How about you make the enemy the foe.

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>>167480198

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So in my travels today I discovered how many frames a model must wait at a given speed before it can begin moving to the next to maintain fluid motion. For people using the normal speed/frequency thing, this is of no matter to you, but for people outside the system, this may be of help.

As you can see, the game processes it at a pretty standard formula - exponents of 2. Interestingly, you can extend the speed lower than 0 and above 7. A speed of -1 requires 512 frames of delay, and a speed of 8 requires 1 frame, 9 requires 0.5 frames (IE, moves 2 tiles a frame). A frame delay lower (IE faster) than the listed number results in jerky motion as the model teleports the rest of the distance needed to continue to the next tile, and a delay higher (slower) results in the standard stutter as the model waits in place for whatever frames before beginning to move again.

>>167482934
That is quite interesting

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Just did my first animation attempt with the idle state of my first and favorite bosses
>tfw he's alive and a real video game character
>he looks as majestic as I imagined him

Making video games is fucking fun

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Good night bump

feeling bad today, post sad themes

Is there any reason to use tilesets for non animated maps?

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Having cleared both Dragon Quest V and VIII in the last month, I'm inspired to make a shameless clone in MV, using the 2000 RTP graphics.

Get ready!

>>167489890
Use tilesets as opposed to what? Parallax?

>>167491635
liar, dq8 takes more than a month to beat

>>167496614
Not if you have the week off work due to illness ;)
55 hours, just cleared the Dragovian Trials. Not gonna bother with Memory Lane.

>>167491635
Look, the heads aren't bigger than the rest of the body, I'll take it.

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bumpin with totally not pokemon

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>>167499140
>not shout or scream
>just fucking cry

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Hi guys, I've been thinking of making a puzzle/RPG game as a side project for fun because of some neat concepts I thought I could include, and I was wondering if RPG Maker would be the best engine to use

The game would involve things like permadeath and multiple mini-stories with different protagonists but the story, setting, bosses etc change based on the decisions you made in the previous stories

Not an idea guy I promise, I work as a software dev so programming isn't an issue but I haven't had much experience in game development.

>>167502271
best is extremely relative. What exactly are you looking for?

>>167502487

Basically an engine that would let me make an RPG that doesn't have too many restrictions/limitations. RPG Maker seems like the obvious choice, but I'm not sure of how flexible it allows you to be in terms of how combat, story branching, permadeath/character changing etc works.

Does anyone know how I can change the sideveiw weapon animations?
>>167502784
I would say try it and see if your comfortable enough with it to continue.

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>>167505048
To be ore specific, I decided to use a set of battle sprites that I then blew up x2. I tried to just do the same with the weapons in the system folder, but that didn't work.

>>167499140
thats rad, post a demo for us

anyone know where character animation speed is in the javascripts for RPG Maker MV?

Hey so i want to get into game design, i own rpg maker vx ace and i'm willing to put effort in to learn this shit but i have no idea where to start. Can someone give me something?

>>167506297
check Game_CharacterBase

>>167506453
Make a simple Point A to Point B story.
Also check Yanfly's comics.

>>167506525
thanks! I was looking in sprites for some reason

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>>167505661
Demo is in the OP of every thread, dude
https://pep.itch.io/tomb-of-friends-demo

>>167487507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HX312WC7v4

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Bump with progress on battle sprites!

>170 posts
>35 IPs
Why is every general I use always on life support

>>167513612
The world isn't about you, snowflake.

Some people are working on their game.

>>167514812
>having the gall to reply to me
The world isn't all about you, sweetie.

I like the fact that they have test battles in the database but my common events don't happen in that view.
So when you put a skill as "none" instead of magic or special what does it mean?

>>167515027
>add one word to make insult
wew lad.

>>167515565
>missing the point this hard

I wanted to give the party members and antagonists a "guardian spirit" kind of thing but it'll look like I'm riping off Jojo and Persona. Guess I will have to think of something else

>>167516441
>the point
lol. shut up you attention whore. Your first post crying about how slow this general is. If you don't like it, join a more active one.

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>>167513612
>Why is every general I use always on life support
Because 4chan is irrelevant today, we're only here because we don't know how to use Tumblr

>>167516750
Just do it anyways, if your idea isn't a novelty put effort in executing it properly.

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>>167516992

>>167514812
>man this general is dead
>WOW WTF SHUT UP SNOWFLAKE GOD I JUST CANT EVEN RIGHT NOW UGH

>>167516871
Yeah man, I'm bawling my eyes out. You got me dude.

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>>167517130

Still looking for Classic School Tiles!

>>167516871
>complain about an aspect of your community
>"w-well if you don't like it then why are you here? lol ;)"

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>>167519330

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another day another character

https://youtu.be/c-rEUqR6Lbw

how are you spending you day?

>being triggered over a "/rpgm/ is dead" post
Actual autism

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Bumping with progress on my battle sprites!
Her moveset doesn't need the two in the middle so I'm done with the base.

>>167513612
All me
The truth is there are only like 5 people here

Are you making progress, son?

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>>167520436
That was pretty funny

>>167525179
Today's the Super Bowl. I'm thinkin' about it

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>tfw havent made progress in several days

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What do you prefer: linear power growth or exponential power growth? I'm not sure of which one to choose.

Linearity means that your character's progress will be much more noticeable at the beginning, but as you progress in levels the stats gain start having less impact. The game will become much more skill-based during the mid game and late game (because levels will be given a secondary role), but the sense of character progression will be lost (you won't feel you're getting much stronger after you reach a certain point). Example:

>level cap is 20
>you start at level 1 with 25 HP, 5 ATK and 5 DEF.
>for each level you gain, you earn 25 HP, 5 ATK and 5 DEF
>at level 2 you have 50 HP, 10 ATK and 10 DEF (this is essentially a 2x increase in power from level 1)
>at level 3 you have 75 HP, 15 ATK and 15 DEF (this is an 1.5x increase in power from level 2)
>at level 4 you have 100 HP, 20 ATK and 20 DEF (this is an 1.33x increase in power from level 3, notice how the multiplier starts lowering as you progress in levels)
>...
>at level 20 you have 500 HP, 100 ATK and 100 DEF (this is just a 1.05x increase in power from level 19, which means it doesn't really matter if you enter the final area at a few lower levels because the stat differences aren't very noticeable at that point)
>levels matter much more in the early game: if you enter a level 2 area while being level 1, you'd get stomped, but not you're level 19 entering a level 20 area

Exponentiality means that it's much more advisable to keep your gear and levels up to date, because the increase of power from one level to another is constant and remains at the same multiplier. Example:

>level cap is 15
>you start at level 1 with 100 HP, 20 ATK and 20 DEF
>each level is a 20% increase of power from the previous level
>at level 2 you have 120 HP, 24 ATK and 24 DEF
>at level 3 you have 144 HP, 29 ATK and 29 DEF
>at level 4 you have 173 HP, 35 ATK and 35 DEF
>...
>at level 15 you have 1283 HP, 257 ATK and 257 DEF

>>167526640
>haven't made any progress in 3 months outside drawing a single enemy
My game is at like 0.1% completed

Will you make progress tomorrow then?

>>167526819
I hate exponential growth with a fiery passion that burns like 1,000 suns. It sets a hard level floor for any new area (much like the Ys series) and besides, a modest gain in stats is always overshadowed by the gains you get from new equipment anyhow. FF1 gave you lots of HP per level but only a scant few stat points were guaranteed to go up, and even then by only one.

>>167526819
My game doesn't have gear and most the leveling is linear. You get points that you put into stuff at your own discretion. You'll find yourself getting your ass kicked if you don't pump up your stats.

Babumpa

How does your game begin? describe the first 15 minutes of your game. is it dialogue? cutscene? long intro movie? flashback? or jump right into gameplay?

my protagonist actually begins in a dungeon (although an easy one)

>>167531673
it starts near the end of the plot then it goes back to the start

Progress on my battle sprites!
>>167531673
Depending on how fast you read the dialogue is 5 - 10 minuets and the part after that you jump into either battles or more dialogue and exploration.

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>>167532264
>Forgot the pic
Well don't I feel foolish.

>>167531673
You move away from the city, during your stroll in the new town, you get fatally injured from something and don't remember what happened. You find out that you got a magical power later on.

>>167531673
I'm a fan of "game begins against the final boss" so i think i'll do just that.

I couldn't choose from three possible outfit colors, so I'm going to make it optional.

>>167536654
>not having a full clothing system where you choose shoes, tops, bottoms, hats, and facewear, as well as armour on top of clothes
>not having clothes be function (e.g. sunglasses help your sight during bright days, running shoes make you faster, brightly-coloured clothes make you more attractive to monsters, etc)
heh

>>167539037
>more attractive to monsters
Y-yeah who would want that

Hey, the next OP should remove the trial mirror. The link is broken:

Trial Mirror: https://mega.nz/#!HNRDmQKS!6YhUUEA3YpRYEaruDgfUmFD2kZcOB7pv3rSssUOM2bs

Also
>Page 9

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>>167531673
I'm using comic strips to tell a story because Phantasy Star 4 did and I like that shit.

There is a brief opening cut scene that explains the basis of the story. Then throwing you into a intro boss.

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>4 pages
>43 posters

dont leave me alone anons, you are my only friends

>>167540983
But we don't know each other

>>167539037
>Not being ClaDun 2 and making your character pixel-by-pixel

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>>167540983
Have a good night bump then.

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>50 people too busy working on their games to post unlike the losers over at /agdg/ who just shitpost all day long

>>167541598
cladun was too hardcore for me. I'll take my premade laharl and asagi, thank you very much.

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Posting progress!
I can't check gifs on my computer in a timely fashion, but the thumbnail tells me something's off.
>>167541729
>Wish my sprites were as cool are Persona 4 Arena

>>167542443
>wish I had the option to use such sprites
The fuck were they thinking by capping out animation frames?

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god tier

>rpg maker xp

good tier

>rpg maker 2000
>rpg maker 2003

shit tier
>everything else


prove me wrong

>>167531673
A short 1 minute scrolling text intro covering some history and world-building that transitions to someone talking to you telling you what your objective is and how that background info was relevant. That whole first conversation probably doesn't take more than 3 minutes. At that point you're free to raid the castle you're in, for some goodies (some hidden if you're thorough enough), and head into town to chat with NPCs and fill out your equipment.

There's a Novice Hall where you can learn the basics of the game, and after you fuck around and learn the menus, you'd probably be able to do all that and hit the world map and get into a fight within 15 mins.

I think anything more than 20 mins to get into your first fight in a JRPG is stretching it, and more than 30 is ridiculous.

>>167542973
God Tier
RPGM VX ACE
RPGM MV

Good Tier
RPGM XP

Meh Tier
RPGM 2k3
RPGM 2k

Haven't used any of the others.

>>167543131
actually scratch that, the ORIGINAL VX I'd throw in with Good tier

>>167543131
>MV
>God tier
how about no

>>167543131
>more than 30 is ridiculous
Dragon Quest 7 makes you wait 2 hours. I dropped that game like a fucking stone

>>167543345
What's wrong with MV

>>167543131
Well, Persona 4 has you fight a little at the start but then you get 3 hours of text.

>>167543923
the switch to javascript is nice but other than that they just did a really shoddy job, its full of bugs and glitches and quirks that people have been continuously complaining about since it came out, and which have never been resolved or even acknowledged. they kind of just added the plugin feature and said "fuck it, let the modders fix and finish our game"

and the fact they still don't allow editor modifications despite people asking for it for ages

its not horrible, but its a disappointment and not really worth more than VXAce.

I FLIPPED MY SCREEN UPSIDOWN
TELL MY FAKE WIFE I LOVE HER

>>167545880
You mean your waifu, right?

Can anyone explain what the different modes in the tileset tab do?

>>167546562
Found this:
>However, for those [Tilesets] which have their [Mode] set to [World Type] in the tileset properties, when placing a decoration tile that is stacked on a 2nd or 4th base tile, the base tile will change either the 1st or 3rd base tile.

>>167531673
You pretty much find a hill of dead slimes (you are a slime) fight an adventurer and go into a dungeon.

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>>167547495
THAT IS BRILLIANT

STEALING SLIME GAME

>>167547495
>>167547749
>Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken

>>167547198
Thanks that sorta describes it, but VX Ace has 3 types.

Field
Area
and VX compatible.

Time to work on your game Anon-kun

>Draw the best face I've ever drawn for concept art before moving it to digital
>No tablet so I'm forced to use pencil and paper, digital art takes 5+ hours for one black and white character
>Paper rips from erasing

fuck everything

>>167549315
Get a tablet and a scanner

>>167549703
I can't, Im in purgatory.
Too disabled to get a job and buy one on my own.
Parents wont bother with a doctor until I try to off myself.
Wont buy me a tablet because they think they can fix this tiny ass wacom from like five years ago that is actual dogshit to use.

>>167549315
>digital art takes 5+ hours for one black and white character
it just took me at least 5 hours to draw some clouds for a parallax in my game... its okay bro

>>167549932
I'm sorry to hear that.
Hang in there friend.

>>167547749
Thank you?

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>>167549932
>too disabled to get a job
>spends all day drawing and working on a vide game
You're just a lazy fuck or 12 years old.
Shit at 12 I bought my own PS2, TV and bunch of games just from selling shells on the beach.

>Spend the last two hours revising backstories
Uh, that's also progress, yes?

>>167553663
I do it as well, and yes, writing a good and consistent story is important, remember, your game might actually get a fanbase that will care.

>>167554701
You are right, I will work extra hard for all 5 people that are going to enjoy my game.
M-maybe you will be among them Anon

>>167556603
I don't play RPG Maker games, but maybe you can impress me with a trailer and interesting art and designs.

Kek, I just noticed I had a Buff Skill set as "physical attack" when it missed its target.

It was a weapon element change skill that I had recently changed to buff allies too, since it never missed before when buffing herself, I just assumed it would never fail.

>>167556603
i'll play your game or even demos

ive been waiting so long for someone to post a demo, i love playing rpg maker games as weird as that sounds. there's something about amateur non-professional games that give an insight into people's personalities, desires, creativity, usually feels way more intimate and comfy than huge studio productions.

>>167557201
>>167557914
I won't disappoint you Anons, just give me enough time.

So is everyone doing pixel art here?

I was thinking about hand drawing everything, but pixel just seems the easiest.

>>167559950
>pixel art
fucking sprites mate

You are working at least one hour each day on your game, yes?

>>167561845
Yeah, I work on it a bit after every episode of an anime. It adds up eventually.

>>167561845
lost a lot of time due to the super bowl.
ready to get on it now though.

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My games scale just blew the fuck out of proportion when I started putting the locations down on paper and it's making me depressed as it will take years to finish this shit.

>>167564231
I'm sure 80% of the people here are in the same boat as you.

>>167551639
I played Animal Crossing too.

>>167564585
Kinda solved the issue by combining one of the most important scenes with an equality important location, it actually works even better this way, I am very excited now!

>>167561845
6-14 per day. Found a script that ONLY crashes when the game is deployed =( demo coming soon.

I'm going to annoy my players by making a custom calender with funny/fantasy names.

What urban area would you like to go to in a game? The only one slightly out of the ordinary I can think of is a library.

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>tfw haven't opened my project in a week because I need to revise how my entire intro goes because I made it up as I went

Don't be like me, anons.

>>167567787
haven't you read yanfly's comic?

>>167567787

Yeah, I was actually structuring the game the same way he showed it, but when I went back through it I was really dissatisfied with how fast the intro was. At the same time, I didn't want to bore the player with a slow start because I think for indie RPGM games it's important to get their attention really fast with something interesting, so it became a sort of stilted mess. I need to nail down my story better so I can get started.

>>167568120

Meant for >>167567814

>>167568308
Yeah I know what you mean. I'm still working out my story as well. At this point I'm just trying to get a demo so people can play. That means making maps, getting characters made and all the real work.

I'm actually thinking of just doing a cold open. No movie, no cutscene, no dialogue. Just a load up and get the player moving. Then very quickly start explaining things. You almost never see games like that.

>>167568608

I think just by changing the setting for one of the scenes in the intro from the MC's workplace to a shitty bar, I can tie everything in the intro together a little tighter and make it more acceptable in my eyes. I have the overall story planned out, as well as most of the important scenes, but it's just the stuff in between and tying everything together that's being a pain.

A cold open would be cool, but make sure you give the player enough guidance that they won't feel like "ugh, there's not even a real intro, this feels unfinished."

>>167568608
I prefer those to bad/overly long intros. At least that way, I can digest the starting information at my own pace.

.....assuming I'm not locked down by movement speed or inability to skip text.

>>167568798
Yeah I'm trying to give all of my places meaning. Maybe letting the player visit them to get familiar with them. Once the plot gets going the locations will be involved in stories.

>>167568843
Yeah I've seen a lot of games that have like 4-5 minute intros(if you read them at a reasonable pace) and people moving around. It kind of annoys me, especially when they start putting tutorials into it also. When I see 4 text boxes that explain the two types of special attacks you can get that are leveled up by power crystals(which you haven't found at all yet) and putting it into your armor(which you also haven't found yet). That annoys the fuck out of me.

My game is very much based in modern, urban reality. No goblins, monsters, anthropomorphic objects. If anything, interacting with objects will be introduced by inner dialogue of the main character. But none of that "I should check my Items to see if any Upgrades are available."

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Good night bump

>>167541620
nice costume

>>167531673

It starts with a very brief(2-5 minutes) tutorial section, with some bits of lore to learn from NPCs in the area and , after that, there's a short cutscene connecting MC to the main story. Finally, the player is thrown to the free-roam section and is encouraged to explore and do some side-quests, so he can, hopefully, get use to the main town of the game.

>>167567729
My second dungeon is a library / museum

seeing as /indie/ is dead, can anyone tell me stuff about the postgame Standstill Girl? I didn't get it.

>>167575437
Never played it but seems pretty cool.

Zombie apocalypse in a (former) regular fantasy world: Y/N?

>>167559950
make sure you have a proper set up, I think I'm developing arthritis from using my mouse too much and straining my wrist and I'm sure 99% of that is from making pixel art with my mouse

>>167582972
Sure why not, it's not like it's a common thing. Magical girl zombie apocalypse made for a good manga so i don't see what's wrong with using zombies if you're original with it.

>>167582972
I wouldn't mind, but I'd spice it up a little. Maybe add some undead that are smarter than your average zombie, maybe even capable of speech. Look at Urban Dead if you want an interesting take on the latter. Simply mowing down mindless zombies, even at high difficulties, gets boring after a while.

b u m p
u m p
m p
p

>>167587762

do you prefer your protagonist/party to have a "home base" i.e. a spaceship, boat, house, town, etc where they can be safe and regain health, store items, maybe decorate, maybe craft

or do you like games where its one long epic journey, and your only belongings are what you bring with your inventory, like in the final fantasy games?

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another day another update

https://youtu.be/eNGOxSzAVCE

>>167589354
I enjoy the first option more but then again I'm a Harvest Moon & Animal Crossing sort of casual.

>Ask people you know for game name ideas
>Just gives you their name
Would you play a game called "Jordan" that isn't about the country and doesn't have a character called that?

>>167591162
did you give anything about the game beforehand?

>>167589354
camp style-75% of everything they can do can be done on the field, they just need to set up camp or call up dem caravan.

Just make SURE they actually look like they're settling down to do some fiddly work. The most jarring part of FF was more that you were shopping in the most inane situations as opposed to being on the move itself.

Is it wrong to make an rpg game from a generic reincarnation light novel plot?
I'm asking for a friend.

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>>167591428
Yes. It may be a pun based on an injoke the audience would never understand.
Mad good stationary practice though.

>>167589354
I like how Final Fantasy does it more than the traveling home base system.

>>167589354
Depends on the type of game and story.

>>167567787
That's called revisions. It's a normal creative process.

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Anyone else scared of posting progress here? I haven't because of fear of anons taking things. Mostly parallaxes and battlers. But I really want to show people progress safely.

>>167547749
Like this, fear of this.

>>167598424
Just post jpeg sprites or something a bit corrupted
like my abomination here >>167542443

Fact of the day:

Autotiles are comprised of 4 sub-tiles. There are 5 possible graphics for each sub-tile. A naive conclusion is that there are potentially 5^4 = 625 possible sub-tile combinations.

However, a large number of these combinations are unused. Digging deeper, consider that each tile has 8 surrounding tiles. Each of those surrounding tiles can have either the same ID or a different ID. A less naive estimation, therefore is that there are 2^8 = 256 possible combinations.

Even this isn't correct though. There are many duplicates among those 256, because two tiles that are only adjacent at a corner are not treated as adjacent.

The final count, after removing redundancy, is 47 unique combinations of sub-tiles.

>>167598424
Just post your progress, If your even if someone "steals" your ideas, you're in charge of executing your ideas the way you want, and there's nobody who can steal that from you.

>>167598424
Makes me think you're not making a game...

Post your background music for making rpgmaker games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCRoQhd7ysM

>>167599894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2rV8oKWSdM

>>167598424
I just posted a detailed explication of my next game concept in the discord, and have no qualms about it. No one could execute the game how I vision it. On top of that, making a game, especially with a larger scope, is insanely time consuming. You'd have to really love someone's idea to commit years of your life to making a game from it. I've found that being passionate about your project is the only way to actually work on it to completion. I doubt someone would be more passionate about my idea than myself.

Okay so I think I have the locations for my games.

1) MC's Apartment
2) Bus Stop
3) MC's Workplace
4) Store(Not sure what kind yet)
5) Library
6) Coffee Shop
7) A Park
8) Pizzeria.

The problem I have is that a game's content is constricted to the resources available to me for use in the game developer. Like, my game has to exist within a series of events that is actually able to be rendered in in RPG Maker, and as such, I'm restricted to things that I know I'd be able to "display" using already existing resources in the community (maps, character, battlers, etc). It constricts possibilities, but that can't really be helped.

The biggest problem in terms of restriction is the community being so neurotic about terms and credits that when I come across something I could use, and by extension implement some event/story development/etc in my game I otherwise couldn't, I'm not sure that I just won't get some kind of backlash for lack of properly accounting for the terms of whatever the fuck it is.

I will credit to the best of my ability and only use things the artists say I can, but I'm sure I'll forget to credit someone for something multiple times or accidentally use something that I wasn't supposed to, and I feel people will invalidate my game on those grounds alone. Like goddamn. It's not commercial. It's just a fucking hobby. I want to create my game in my vision with what I have at my disposal, not agonize over the use of a fucking tileset because there's a mod somewhere in the community that's going to lose their mind with the misuse of resources.

>>167602280
Perfectionism is the perfect excuse for nodevs to get in their own way and make no progress. Ignore those fucks and keep pounding, broheim

>>167602280
That's a whole lot of agony over such a nonproblem. Who cares, make game.

>>167602280
Meanwhile Space Funeral and Tomb of Friends use their own assets straight out of fucking MS Paint, execution is key not your fucking art stockpile.

>>167602205
Looking good. My locations are still not finished.
I have work to do but I just want to make video games.

>>167604846
Well I've only finished the apartments so far(at lest enough to move on). The rest need to be made but those locations are the ones I've decided will give me enough to tell the story I want.

using vx ace here, how do I randomize an enemy's hp?
I want the same enemy to have different max HP from battle to battle, let's say it varies by 25%

>>167603294
Don't pretend that everyone has the ability to create art good enough for public consumption, and when the game you plan is sufficiently large in scope, it becomes prohibitively difficult to create all the required assets yourself even if you do have the ability.

>>167603294

And they look like shit.

>>167606629
Well if we're gonna be honest here, there are some people who just aren't cut out to make games in general. Most of those people who do make a game may not be good at art, music, writing, coding or whatever. The difference for those people is determination and work ethic. They kept pushing and finally got it done.

The very first thing pixel image I posted got shat on but I kept trying, posting and getting better. I'm not good by any means but I just keep at it until I'm happy enough. Also it helps to have tools and know how to use them.

Post your music

>>167606629
So you are telling me that your idea is only worth executing if you can do so in consumer grade video game quality?

iwilldevouryourkittens did you receive my email?

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>>167606629
>Don't pretend that everyone has the ability to create art good enough for public consumption
I don't think he was.

>>167607409

It's not one extreme or the other. I want it's presentation to be the best I can *reasonably* make it. It doesn't need to be professional quality, but I don't want it to turn out looking like someone's nightmare, either. Doing the art myself is a great way to guarantee the resources will turn out poor. Using the resources already online is a great way to guarantee it'll turn out a lot fucking better. And besides, these games already have a track record of never being finished; leaving all the artwork up to the dev alone is a pretty good way to make sure even less games will be completed.

>>167603294
>execution is key not your fucking art stockpile.

video games is a visual art so suggesting that the visuals can look like absolute ass and it won't detract from the experience is a little naive IMO

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>>167608380

Dude, this was the first thing I ever made with custom assets in RPG maker. Everyone is shit when they first start. Those who don't finish never wanted to finish in the first place.

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RPG MAKER MV Question!

I see that states can have these little numbers on top of them, usually to denote stacks or turns remaining.

Can I manually set this number to match a variable?

>>167609578

I'm pretty sure that yanfly's battle system, which is a script for RPG Maker VX Ace

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You've heard her boys.

>>167609854
overrated
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>>167609578
>MV question
>Pic related says Ace
You can't fool me twice, anon.

>>167609737
It is, I just used that picture because it circles what I'm talking about. The same thing shows up in RPG Maker MV, although I dunno if it's still something Yanfly added or if its supported natively now.

>>167610140
It's not native.

>>167610331
Alright, any idea how to do it with Yanfly's scripts then? It seems like it should be really simple but I just don't know how to do it at all.

Like, let's say you have an Attack Buff state and you want the number on its icon to be = to the unit's Attack stat at all times.

>>167610042

your moms overrated

>>167608380
dude shut the fuck up.
you are one entitled cunt. those people who make assets for the community spend HARD WORK and TIME into making pixel art, just because you're a lazy cunt who can't be bothered to either credit people or use your own art doesn't somehow place your game and your desires above everybody else's in the community.

and as others have said, art isn't THAT hard to do. if your game is fun and exciting and has a good plot and mechanics, nobody cares about if you're an amateur with graphics or not. your whole game is inherently amateur because you're using fucking RPG Maker for christ's sake. if you think you need to have to amazing graphics for people to take your one-man-army rpg maker game "seriously", you're delusional

>>167611189

Thank you for validating my previously held belief that this community is full of neurotic douchebags.

>>167611420
you just can't handle the truth and see yourself for what you're being. I mean listen to yourself and see how ridiculous your compaining is. "How dare these people who put their time and effort into making free assets for the community to use ask me, lazy person who did nothing, to credit them!"

you, anon, are the neurotic douchebag.

>>167611420
Nobody's forcing you to stay

So, has everyone tried out the advice for skill templating in the Yanfly comic?

>>167611420
But you're not adding to anything here. All you're doing is complaining that art is hard and that mental speculation is keeping you from even trying to make assets for the game that you want to make. Even worse than that, you insult the people here by saying that projects here never get developed.

Seriously, you could be good at at it if you try. I've never drawn anything beyond stick figures in my life but after 10 hours I feel like I can convey anything I need to in my game. Obviously you're an eternal pessimist. Use that to make yourself better instead of trying to rag on people for not making your game for you.

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>>167607052
This guy has the right mentality imho. My first shit was terrible and now its slightly less so (only slightly). The Long Road will have way worse graphics than my next project, because I keep on learning and adapting. Undertale sold well because it had phenomenal music and good writing, you can achieve a lot with janky graphics.

And he is 100% right. What determines success more often than not is just the will to see a project through. If you're making pure custom assets, your project's audience is already wider than it would be with straight RTP (not all of the time, but most of the time).

Here is a comparison of where I started (again, I still think I have a lot to improve on, I kinda suck).

>>167611740
I thought it was common knowledge. Establish templates, add variance, etc. Shouldn't need a bunny-eared fuzzball to tell anyone that.

>>167611551

See, what the best part here is that you don't even bother to read what I was actually saying. Where did I ever suggest I wouldn't credit them? You are just having a tantrum about something you just blindly assume I'm trying to suggest. But holy fuck. You have some trigger there, kid. But you do you, buddy.

>>167611189
>art isn't THAT hard to do
non-artist confirmed
non-dev confirmed

>>167611189

wtf are you even talking about

>>167611943
shut the fuck up, I'm both an artist and a dev.

all I'm saying is: if you think "the art for my game is impossible for me to complete in any amount of time" then your scope is way to big. either scale down the size, or accept that your first few games are going to have shitty art, as others have been saying.

stop with this cockroach, bitter "everything is too hard and this makes me mad at everyone who tries" mentality

>>167611760
>Even worse than that, you insult the people here by saying that projects here never get developed.

Please tell me you're joking. That's a fact, not an insult.

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>RPG Maker drama

>>167612181

>I am god! Listen to me! I have all the answers!

pls stop

>>167612181
Stop replying

>>167612330
if you never stop with your angry and bitter attitude towards hard work, you're never going to make a game. that's a fact.

>>167612181
>stop with this cockroach, bitter "everything is too hard and this makes me mad at everyone who tries" mentality

Do you have a persecution complex? Slow your fucking roll, dude. Stop assuming that literally every opinion that doesn't align with your mindset is some personal attack.