/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

>>167380856
cunt

Reminder to Praise Allah and his prophet Muhammed

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Based and White

>>167381042
>tfw can't tell if Ottoman, Italian or Roman

Any eta for 1.20 ?

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La Plata

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>>167381141
>Italian or Roman

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Whats your guy's opinion on this game? Do you consider it grand strategy? Is there anyone else on the planet who actually plays it besides me?

>>167380693
Come on, lad, make my meme an-clap flag and I'll leave you alone. You owe me for all the times I've told you how shit your flags were

>>167381254
mamamia gabbagool
*slurps pasta*
do thisa idiota bea sayina
we werenta roma?

>>167381385
someone was posting it a few days ago and there was no shitstorm so you should be safe posting it

>>167381443
Vatican city is the legitimate successor state to Rome.
>hehe dis kids just meming he dusnt really tink dat
Prove me wrong.
>Latin
>In Rome
>only authority under rome still around (Bishops of Rome were legitimised upon the Roman Empire's conversion to Christianity, by right of line of succession the Pope is the Roman emperor.)

>>167381223
What's AFPG like IRL? Does he know his username is an anagram of fag pro?

>>167381782
That really made me think

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>>167381687
Its Finland

>>167382185
>all those jumps
"No" also, how does a republic be an empire?

>>167381042
>West Africa

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>>167382298
It was to be a kingdom. IIRC

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Alright, thanks AFPG, the icon looks really good, I had to make it a little smaller though.

Eventually the death cultists will spread to other nations, even if there isn't a zombie country, and rebels will pop up to try to change your country religion to their cult. The cult religion will probably open up some options, no idea what though, I was thinking maybe having the ability to start zombie infections in enemy countries during great wars or something.

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>Going for Burgundian Conquest cheevo
>This happens

ITS FATE

>>167382185
>Constantine the Great relocates the capital to Constantinople.
Anyone else think Constantine was an idiot for this one?

>>167382427
>moving the capital to a much wealthier city straddling two continents was a mistake
Nah, should have renamed the empire though.

>>167382398
Make an "undead" culture and have all the pops switch to it once it completely falls (not just occupied).
At what age could humanity reasonably fend off a zombie horde? I think the advent of the machine gun would have been it.

>>167382398
>I had to make it a little smaller though
Damn, looking good though.

If you want my opinion, remembering a very old post apocalyptic Civ4 mod I used to play back in the day, I remember there was a death cult as well, and you really wanted to avoid your cities converting to it because it gave you a population malus and some other stuff.

I think it's an interesting idea if you can implement the religion to give you nation maluses, so that you'd actually want to _prevent_ the religion from spreading to your land and such.

I assume death cultists would seek to bring about the zombie plague, but perhaps also otherwise poison or fuck up your population giving a malus to population growth and such things.

>>167382726
>EU3, just do Norse Britian
What size are EU3 flags even?

Why the fuck is MEIOU so slow

>>167382887
64x64

>>167382887
128 by 128, don't forget Muslim Byzz as well

>>167382946
>>167382986
I actually remember because I did a flag from EU3 a long time ago and they are 64x64. So which one it is? EU3 or EU4?

>>167382710
>At what age could humanity reasonably fend off a zombie horde? I think the advent of the machine gun would have been it.
Depends what rules the zombie operate under. If they starve, then whenever. If organized properly, then probably medieval or even classical. A castle or walled cities would be pretty unbreachable and despite lacking gunpowder weapons you'd still be able to fuck up a zombie horde with firebombs.

>>167382887
>I assume death cultists would seek to bring about the zombie plague, but perhaps also otherwise poison or fuck up your population giving a malus to population growth and such things.
Why would anyone want to overthrow civilisation by promoting an influx of barbaric uncivilised subhumans?

>>167383128
No starvation, headshots only.
>you will never be walled in a comfy english castle, longbowing zombies all day

>>167383021
EU3, It is 64x64, checked

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>>167383130
I see what you did there and I love you for it, anon.

>>167383239
>headshots only
Then you'd be fucked up until the early modern era. I think you underestimate the marksman to zombie ratio, not to mention the insane amounts of ammunition that would be required.

>>167383458
Nah, I originally said the machine guns. I don't think that's be possible with muskets, considering it takes half a minute for the average person to reload.

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>>167382986
Well, when dealing with flags so god damn small, the key is to keep things as simple as possible.

For instance, here you have your Byzantine Caliphate, so to speak. Since I assume the capital is in Constantinople, I just did the same thing the Ottomans did when THEY became a "Byzantine Caliphate", so to speak, and took Constantinople's Star and Crescent and turned it into their own symbol.

I chose this design since it comes directly from old Constantinople banners, and I chose green since in Shia Islam (and Islam in general I believe) it's a sacred colour, symbol of purity and piety.

What do you think?

k lads i

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>>167380045
>>167380181
From last March

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Stupid question, why did real-life nations blob so hard?

What was their end goal?

And why is taking over the world such a reoccurring theme for the villain in fiction? What do they plan on doing once they've accomplished this?

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>>167383791
That is a stupid question.

>>167383696
Preddy good, It fits quite well.

>>167382710
I already have a zombie culture for the horde, I plan on making provinces assimilate to it and lose a good number of pops once the majority are zombie cultists, representing them sacrificing themselves or some other edgy thing. I'll make it possible to get zombie primary culture as any nation if their capital becomes majority cultist.

I'm going to make every religion able to be converted even if there are no pops of the religion you want to convert them to, similar to African pagans, just so this become possible.

>>167382887
Good idea, I'll have having the cultists in power give bonuses to military and reduced militancy/consciousness, at the cost of a decent hit to pop growth, period losses of pops in provinces whenever they flip to zombie culture, and other small annoyance events.

I want there to be stages of the apocalypse in the mod, like stage one (1836-1852) being the actual zombies, 1852-1890ish being cultists and 1890-1900 being the african outbreak, past that just using zombism in warfare. I also want to have local events too, like movements to give proper burials to the fallen, eliminating small scale, 1-3 man outbreaks, and families keeping a zombified family member around if they can't get over the loss.

>>167382710
Inventing machine guns basically stops the zombies from ever being a threat again, before then it's just about strategy. I'm not going to go by the "headshot" rule, but I won't have the environment kill too many of them otherwise the apocalypse would only last a week tops.

>>167383785
>the wedding dress
I'm angry now. Fuck that show

>>167383791
They adopt a materialist mindset where more equals better, so they conquer to take control of trade and wealth to expand their power.

>Getting triggered by an article of clothing

>>167383785
What is this even about?

>>167383924
you are LITERALLY the guy that gomic is parodying

>>167383785
Last march as in 2016 or 2015?

>>167383970
For what purpose though? What are the real life benefits of playing wide vs playing tall? Wouldn't the former make efficient administration of the realm borderline impossible unless outer territories have significant enough autonomy to basically count as semi-independent from the central government? That doesn't sound sustainable.

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>>167383576
Using to get you attention

This flag isn't to bad either

>>167384056
>>167384216
Not the dress specifically, just the ending of she show, when she wears the dress, is hot garbage

>>167384216
Why would it be 2015?

>>167384327
>>167383924
Best girl won, bitches. Get over it.

>>167383239
>>167383458
I think humanity would have survived at any stage, mostly because of islands, such as isle of man. Every now and then when the population of the island rises groups would probably leave to try and make their way to the dangerous yet completely unclaimed land that would be abundant in resources compared to the island, especially since no one has been there to harvest it for years.
The chance of zombies getting on the islands are tiny, and can only happen if they come on a boat, back then boats took a while to travel so the other passengers would either die or kill the infected before they land. Any that do get to shore would be of little threat because of low population + Density meaning its pretty much impossible for them to overwhelm people.

>>167383920
>I'm not going to go by the "headshot" rule, but I won't have the environment kill too many of them otherwise the apocalypse would only last a week tops.
The headshot rule is only one that makes sense. Chop of a zombie's arm, what happens? Nothing. The brain is the only part that causes this, they were able to make Zombie mice in real life and it's basically just a neurological disorder.

Also, you should have it start by Communist Anarchist jews declaring it the only way to truly "liberate the proletariat".

CK2 cuck here trying to figure out EU4. I figured I'd start with the modern casualized games before I get into the more complex and retro ones.

Other than centers of trade and other provincial bonuses, and other than Missions, how do I decide what land to grab in a peace deal? In CK2 you just go for de jure duchies, but that doesn't seem to be much of a thing in EU4.
Or should I try to grab land that falls within the same State, to minimize the amount of States I have to create?

>>167384371
But no girl won. The ending is cop-out shit

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>>167384264
The different shades of blue are barely a thing, I don't think it's a good idea to depend on that for symbolism.

>>167383919
I know you said you wanted Norse symbolism but what about this? I took the lion from the medieval Earldom of Iceland and gave it the colours of the lion of England. I can try something else, more pagan norse if you want though.

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>>167384264
>stuarts

>>167350315
nice. instant votes by giving him a barony. good to know!

>>167384631
And now that he's landed he's going to start plotting against you and banging diseased wenches.

>>167384349
I don't know, I always got confused about that shit in school. They'd say "next friday" and mean the friday after next, rather than the friday of that week, which would be the "next" friday.

Just autism, lad.

>>167384481
It really really depends. Start with cores and claims first as you lose less paper and bird mana. Then culture if its your culture or culture group its worth more. Then in states you already own. Some provinces may be special and transcend those rules like you always want centers of trade and gold mines. Above all good borders are king.

>>167384264
>mix of different blues
I have never seen anything worse in my whole entire life.

>>167384613
Yeah, I'd love to see different norse symbolism more prominent, also you are doing great work for the limitations you are working with

>>167384453
>The headshot rule is only one that makes sense. Chop of a zombie's arm, what happens? Nothing. The brain is the only part that causes this
Yeah, you're right, I'll go off of that rule, my only gripe with it is that it would be near impossible for any non island nation to survive, but I dunno.

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>>167384467
heh epic

>>167384252
Compare the influence and power of the British Empire to Switzerland and you'll see the difference between playing 'wide' vs 'tall'.

>>167384919
Pretty simple with machine guns. They'd basically be slower, unarmed zulus.

You could have two distinct sections of the mod, "the plague" and then the rebuilding, post invention of the machine gun, so that the last 40 years of the game are spent trying to get back from the catastrophe.

You could even have a sort of world conference, where the player can becoms the sole world government and try to make humanity prosper again, complete with events for nstionalist strife in said world government. Or you could have it go the other way and have people rapidly lose literacy (from no schools) and descend back into feudalist nation states.

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Honest question why is there no bin next to deleted posts anymore? Now I can't tell what autism the janny is up to unless I f5 or someone quotes a deleted post. pls no ban for off topic t. >>167385014

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>>167384893
Well, another possibility is using this symbol (triple knot or something is called, I forgot) which is a Norse symbol for Odin, but apparently was used around the British Islands as well by Germanic pagans.

>>167385189
You should install a plugin that saves deleted posts, /gsg/ routinely has 1000+ posts each thread when you accoutn for the deleted ones.

>>167385312
Well, my ruler was the holy head of Norse Paganism in CK2 before I converted, so it'd work since I have to represent Norse pagans as a whole

>>167385131
That whole last paragraph seems to go a bit off the rails desu.

yeehaw

>>167385453
How so? Zombie uprising is right ul there with alien invasion on the "what would form a single world government" scale. People would soon realise that the only way humanity could hope to recuperate is by going full UN.

>>167385684
I just don't see global scale governments happening in the 100 years the game takes place in, nor within the mechanics of the game for that matter. That's for the modder to consider, but I think it'd be losing focus of the mod and there's still a lot of interesting things to do with a post-zombie scenario that don't involve a huge global blob.

>>167385851
Neither are zombie invasions credible. Honestly, I don't think a live Frenchmen asking to unify with a live Spaniard to fight a horde of undead motherfuckers is too far fetched.

>>167385959
>one world government
>in the age of nationalism
If the hordes of jacobins and communists didn't make the West unite in a single government, neither will the hordes of comparatively less dangerous zombies.

>no event for germany to get the togoland
>can't get my historical colonies because no naval range from bases to colonize before anglo fucks get my clay

ree.

>>167386021
I honestly don't think this would be considered "the age of nationalism" in the event of a zombie apocalypse. Something tells me all bets are off when the coffins start bursting open. This isn't an ideological struggle, this is live humans vs dead humans, not [nation] vs dead humans.

>>167385312
>>167384264
tbqh, while I appreciate you making the flag for me, it just seemd too British, maybe it was the Irish cross that got thrown in there, as well as the flour-de-lis right smack dab on the flag.

I think I can take care of the Kildare cross (?), but if you could get either of the flags mentioned in >>167383576 I couldn't be happier

Also, what's your reasoning about not getting a pass? You could just keep it restricted to your devices and not give out the token and pin

>>167386239
>this is live humans vs dead humans, not [nation] vs dead humans.
I think you are seeing this from a very modern point of view. Back in those times chances are the struggle would have indeed be seen as a national struggle against a foreign agent, even if said foreign agent isn't a nation itself.
I agree that alliances and powerblocks may have been formed to stop the hordes, but extrapolating that to the formation of one world government is just lightyears away from willing suspension of disbelief.
Like, imagine, you couldn't go one day in there without civil wars starting over who gets to rule or where the capital would be and such, just to mention most immediate matters.

>>167386443
Alright, fair enough, but there atleast needs to be events for the German Confederation to seize executive power in the crisis.

>>167385131
Gotta go with >>167385453 on this one, you had me until the last paragraph. I do like the idea of societies reverting into feudal kingdoms, but I only see it happening in serf filled Eastern European areas like Russia, Hungary, and Poland. A X-Com unified world state in the 1800s sounds really silly though

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>>167386349
If I got rid of St Patrick's cross thusly would it be ok? The problem with the fifth one you linked to is that it doesn't really have Scotland's saltire there, and the other one you linked has only one fleur de lis, not three, and that's an important distinction for France.
Also having the fleur de lis defacing the rest of the flag is a proper heraldic way of doing it, see the CoA of Spain, which is what inspired me actually.

As for the pass, I'll consider it once I'm there, but since I don't know how busy I'll even be I don't want to promise things I won't be able to do. Not to mention I'd be forced to do flags on the m*cbook laptop I'll be forced to take.

>>167386792
>thusly

>>167386792
This is perfect, thanks

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ahhhhhhh relief

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>>167308674
What portrait mod is this?

>>167386620
Literally no one said anything about it being Communist, you lads have read that all by yourselves.

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>>167386978
Noone said anything about it being Communist either.

>>167386952
CPR+

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My little HRE can't be this heretic. I want to convert those guys but I also want to keep my long time alliance with the emperor Austria.

>>167387042
I don't know what x com is, I assumed x stood for Christ and it was some sort of Christian communist world government.

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>>167387368
>I don't know what x com is
>I assumed x stood for Christ and it was some sort of Christian communist world government
I don't know which of these two statements I find the most bizarre.

>>167387042
>http://x.com
I'm sort of afraid to go there
Must be a crazy valuable domain

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I think I've gone too deep in my trip through Deviantart lads I would def play this gsg though

>>167387447
Have you literally never heard of xmas?

>>167387541
>deviantart geopolitical autism
ah yes it puts this place to shame

>>167387104
W&B. Thanks. I mostly use CK2 for fapping so this should be helpful.

>>167387802
>no events where your having a family dinner and there aren't enough chairs so your mom has to sit on your lap but you get a boner and she can feel it poking her and you think your in trouble but then she gets wet and starts moaning so you push further against her and she has to stifle her ectasy so the other members of the family can't hear but they see her erect nipples and ask if they should throw another log on the fire and she says she's sat on the higgest log in the house so you gently pull down her robes and stick it in her but your family notice her moving up and down and moaning so your dad asks what the hell is going on and she says the food is too spicy

>>167388096
>Not being Zoroastrian so it's completely normal.
Step it up.

>>167388168
>no taboo
What would be the point?

How do I stop myself from cheating and hoarding porn?

>>167388248
Family approved incest is the best incest.

>>167386792
I remember you saying a while ago that you would be leaving for months. Where are you going and why won't you be able to post during that time?

>>167385102
Ehh.. playing tall vs playing wide would be comparing the US to the UK, or Russia. The US adopted a strategy of playing tall since they refused an opportunity to annex Mexico even when they could've. They also refused an opportunity to back the Canadian revolution of 1837 when it was likely the Canucks would've wanted statehood. They even backed the British and handed back whoever the UK government wanted that fled on US soil.

Switzerland isn't/wasn't playing at all.

Reminder that offspring from a single generation of brother-sister relationships don't actually suffer from any negative effects of inbreeding, it is only through multiple, successive generations where this becomes a problem.

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>>167388379
>implying daddy would share your sister mom

>>167388168
>not playing Messalian with Dark World so you're a succubus literally worshiping the devil but saying he's actually a good guy

>>167388482
I'm leaving to China, left a note with specific dates on my pastebin. I won't be able to post, at first at least, because the captcha is a google product and google products are blocked in China. I may buy a pass but that's a big IF since I will be depending on a public IP which may not be static at that, so I wouldn't count on it. Plus God knows if I'll have time to make flags while I'm there, not to mention I won't have the computer I usually make flags with so it will be harder.
So bottom line, I won't be here from 12th of February till August.

And on that note, I should go to sleep for the night. Good night, /gsg/.

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>>167388686
Someone make a meme ball of this.

>>167388691
>google products are blocked in China
BASED

WHITE AND BASED

WHEN WILL TRUMP ADOPT BASED PROTECTIONISM? LITERALLY UNIRONICALLY FUCK KEKED FREE TRADE

>>167388691
>God
Top kek, enjoy your public execution.

>>167388778
>liking free trade
*gives your job to a thrid worlder and pays him an eighth of what you used to get*

>>167388778
I'd ordinarily unironically agree but the problem with Go*gle is their ability to essentially spy on any user and know virtually all of their personal information. In China they may not have Go*gle but they have the Chinese government who do the exact same thing except more openly and more obtusely.

>>167389047
States are more inherently moral than private companies, as they're held to account by more people.

>give hearts of arrows another try with the together for meme shit
>play as south africa
>naturally want to blob the fuck and make le epic sudafrikums blob
>i am like epik voortrekker so i got the nazi rout
>rearm namibia with germaniums
>activate the coup
>deletes all my armies and puts me at war with south africa, france and great britain
haha epic

>>167388992
That's what I'm saying though. Free Trade is cucked because it only serves international corporations.

>>167388873
PRC is not anti-religion though, hell they've co-opted a bunch of local Catholic and Protestant churches as a propaganda arm.

>>167389047
Can Google know my personal information if on the PC I'm mainly browsing with, I don't use Facebook, Twitter or any social media nor have my credit card info inputted into them? In that case, they'd only know my location. Same way ISP knows what I browse but they don't know who the fuck I am because my internet's registered with my parents

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>>167389098
I know that's bullshit but I don't feel like coming up with an argument to refute it desu.

>>167389228
I thought you were being sardonic with the all caps, like that afggot who keeps making butthurt """ironic""" memes and then sperges when people make them back at him.

>>167389304
Do you honestly trust private companies more than the state? Hell, the state is the only one who stops private companies selling you into slavery.

hey anons give me a country + cool (not epin) goal in Darkest Hour (either vanilla or KR)

>>167389341
Nah, I just got overexcited that a country is finally taking care of its people. Kinda sad its the fucking commies that end up doing it though.

>>167388592
The US playing wide with Manifest Destiny and War of 1812. They refused to back Canada because they're afraid they would be BTFO again like 1812. They didn't want to annex Mexico because their aggressive expansion and overextension were already over the roof after annexing California and Texas. Shit son, they even tried to annex Cuba, Hawaii and Philippines.

>>167388607
Which is what happened to the nobility of Europe. Fuckin' idiots needed to outbreed more.

>>167389470
Kaiserreich. Find out if La Plata has any flavour at all.

>>167388691
The bigger issue is that 4chan range bans all Chinese IPs, so you're going to need a proxy.

>>167389512
already did that recently actually, desu most of it seems to be centered around the war with Brazil after they go syndie. then again i only played until about 1941 so i dunno

another country/goal?

>>167389561
I've seen many Tiangguo games posted but they never post beyond when you become the Tian Empire, and I've always been curious about their flag. Maybe try that?
I also think South Africa has been getting lots of events in the last update.

>>167389561
kaiserreich
kick western piggu out of china

>>167389649

Tiangguo memers it is

time to Make China Great Again

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>>167389483
China is essentially national socialist now. They're strongly Han nationalist and even call their meme ideology "communism with chinese characteristics".

Stalin and Deng Zowping realised communist, as designed by Jews, simply can't work. Juche would also be based apart from the fact they're sanctioned by the entire world.

>no qt 3.14 nork wife to snuggle, make me food and fuck

>>167389485
They only did Manifest Destiny expansion to secure an access to the Pacific. They only wanted Cuba, Hawaii and Philippines for some extra strategic islands. Hawaii and Philippines secures the Pacific, Cuba makes sure no one can try to station troops on there.

They could've also blobbed into Africa, but they didn't. Their only colony they gave full autonomy and was basically an independent country. Meanwhile there was no need for the UK to blob into a bunch of worthless African tribes or Russia to take frozen wasteland but they did it anyway just because they could.

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>weebshit "gsg" in OP pic

>>167389830
>the determined "im going to shit this place up" expression
This is how I visualise Gruica, Reed, and all the other steamcordplaza faggots.

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>>167389830

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>>167390164
get out of my general

>>167390232
>Insults anime
>Posts screenshot of the Scooby Doo anime

>>167390086
Don't forget Cobra, the one pushing this cuckposting that's been going on as of late.

>>167390359
Cobra is Reed, you fucking newfag, Jesus Christ.

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>>167389830
Hol up nigga. 2 can play this game.

>>167390359
he said reed though
you need to update your Official R&I rulebook

>>167390410
I only hate 2 of the things on your list.
>anime
>weeaboos

>>167390402
>>167390426
Not a newfag, just been gone for most of 2015 and 2016

>>167390330
>Scooby Doo anime
Genuinely laughed in real life. Not just air through nose either, a proper laugh.

>>167390410
>implying anime isn't politically correct
You lads are a registered minority now, I can be arrested for insulting your sick fetish.

>>167390484
Why on Earth did you come back, lad?

>>167390514
Pretty sure normie hate anime because >muh pedophile and >think of those drawing children you sickfuck.

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>>167389437
>Do you honestly trust private companies more than the state?
Depends on the state we're talking about. China? Nah, no thanks. I mean honestly I can't think of any country in existence today (except maybe Singapore or Japan if I were Japanese) that I be willing to put my trust into. I'm not an An-Cap/Libertarian/etc. by any stretch but at the same time I don't think they are nearly as implausible or would be as absurdly inneffective as the memers who bring up "muh roads" constantly instead actually looking into the actual libertarian arguments for why that wouldn't be that big an issue, or ignoring the fact that most in this group are not hardcore purits who would actually object to the existence of a centralized government that taxes them a tiny fraction of the amount virtually all modern nations tax today for the sake of essential services like roads, national defense, etc. Even the full-on Molyneux-tier stateless ancapistan would probably work better than what we have today.

This being said don't think I want private companies collecting my personal information. The difference is you can avoid giving private companies a lot of your personal information (though this is getting more difficult), but it's straight up illegal to not do so in the case of a government.

only posting anime to trigger that one autist

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>>167390476
Go back to /r/paradoxplaza if you hate anime so much.
4chan is, and always will be, a site for weebs.

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post em

>>167390582
Finished College, I have fuck all else to do now. Also hoped shitposting would've ceased considering I thought the original steamgruppe would've stopped giving a shit by now. Turns out, we just got a new group of shitposters instead.

>>167390635
>that one autist
I also see no point to anime posting, but it doesn't trigger me.
You're like, sixteenth on my gas list.

Tiangguo is a shit country

i'm building IC in one of two provinces where i can

i'm building infra in Yan'an

i have no clue how i'm going to survive

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Where were you when blobbing got an anime adaption?

From the Youjo Senki light novel.

TL: Everybody should play Victoria by Paradox.

>>167390635
>Even the full-on Molyneux-tier stateless ancapistan would probably work better than what we have today.
Nope, it'd be pretty much exactly what we have today. Neoliberalism is ancap with some state thrown in to keep the trust-fund kid communists on-side.

>>167390724
They're largely the same as the old steamgroup, except they use discord to plan raids and reddit to recruit useful idiots. Hence the portmanteau, "steamcordplaza".

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STOP

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>>167390782
i always forget the fucking screen

>>167390887
wait til he becomes an empire
join his empire
continue conquest inside the empire

>>167390849
Do we still have a janitor solely dedicated to this general as when willy waggling was being spammed?

>>167390847
>he unironically believes this
An-clap would be literal madmax society. All roads are toll roads, there are no pavement, but if you step foot in the desert you get shot for tresspassing, you're born into slavery and if you try to leave you violate the NAP, you get shot, it's essentially absolute monarchism but the monarchs don't give a fuck about their slaves because the first person to show empathy or compassion gets memed on by the other, less scrupulous people.

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>>167390617
Well there's 2 sides of the normalfag equation. One side moderately likes/appreciates anime, they tend to be libshits of all variaties. Then there's the other side which falls firmly into the category of moralfaggotry, as you mention. Lot's and lots of Christcucks/Cuckservatives, and in the past couple years, immigrants into nu/pol/ who thinks that based Addie would unironically gas everyone that consume any form of entertainment they personally believe to be "degenerate" or something.

>>167390942
Nah. Now we have liquor spam. It's literally just steamcordplaza spamming liquor memes non stop and the janitor doesn't ban it because he thinks it's on topic.

See, it might appear funny to the uninitiated, but it has been going on for literal years at this point. Just like willy spam did.

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How do I manage to beat the Soviets in Edge of Darkness?

I have like 300 IC (effective) and it's February of 1940. They have something like 550 effective IC and a fuckload of troops, way more than I've got.

Do I have any hope of beating them without forcing a bunch of rapid mass encirclements? How would I pull that off if I only wind up having 5-6 tank corps by the time the invasion begins?

>>167391114
It's died down a lot since last year though, sometimes entire threads go without a single mention of liquor.

>>167391045
>uncie hitler would totally appreciate my semen stained waifu pillow!
How sick do you have to be to believe this?

>>167391196
Yeah, it's gotten better recently, but it's still only marginally. There's also the Grandi memes and now these spammed """ironic""" antifa memes.

>>167390698
Is this game good?

>>167391114
Noticed it as soon as I got back, I figured the nature behind it was 'lets back the unpopular thing to trigger gsg it'd be so funny'. EU4 can't even be compared to Victoria II in terms of gameplay and depth though.

>>167390847
> it'd be pretty much exactly what we have today
Yes ~50%+ of your income getting taxed sure sounds ancap as fuck bro.
>>167391029
Maybe you should watch a Molyneux vid where he talks about how most (all according to him) monopolies are only possible to be constructed and then sustained due to counterproductive government regulations with regard to monopolies, or something.

Is Tropico grand strategy?

>>167391045
are you a idiot

>>167391202
Hard to say. Hitler and the NatSocs would be against anyone that doesn't fulfill the main human function of breeding. HOWEVER, the way Germany was set up back then even a literal autist (see Himmler) could get himself a wife and start a family. Today if you're not Chad if you want to get a wife you have to compete pretty hard so some people just give up and go have waifus. Completely different societies.

I'm on neither /r9k/'s nor Chad's side though, I'm on the side that would bring back traditional society and fix this mess.

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>tfw your country is so shit Black Monday doesn't affect you

researching lots of hospital tech so my manpower growth stays stronk

also Sternboi is fucking raping all the Hui

>>167391449
>monopolies are only possible to be constructed and then sustained due to counterproductive government regulations with regard to monopolies, or something.
Ah, yes. The "all companies would be completely ethical if you took away the regulation" meme. Which delightfully overlooks the fact that the only reason we started regulating them is because they were meming us up. Stuff like the pure food and drug act, only necessary because they were selling non edible material as "food", because it made them money.

Honestly, call me a statist, but all anarcho socities are absolutely shit. I would take any non anarcho government over an anarcho one.

>>167391489
No. It's a city-building game.

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>>167391202
Are we living in a pietistic state, or in the age of life-affirming National Socialism?

No one can suspect us of wanting to live lives of ostentation or luxury. The Führer and many of his close comrades neither smoke nor drink nor enjoy sumptuous living. Those, however, who want to rob a nation of sixty million of every pleasure and all traces of optimism are contemptible, entirely aside from the fact that their foolish desires would drive countless people into poverty and misery.

Every banned activity makes more people unemployed; if no one can drive a car, the automobile factories will shut down, if no one wears a new suit, the looms and tailors will have nothing more to do; if people no longer attend movies or the theater, hundreds of thousands of stage and film employees will depend on public assistance.

To take joy and pleasure from a people means to make it unfit for its struggle for its daily bread.

He who does that sins against our reconstruction efforts and embarrasses the National Socialist state before the whole world.

The result would be a dreary impoverishment of our public life. That we will not accept.

We do not want to abolish pleasure, but rather to let as many as possible share in it. That is why we encourage people to attend the theater, that is why we give workers the opportunity to dress well for festive occasions. That is the reason behind Kraft durch Freude. That is why we shake off the agents of a prudish hypocrisy, why we do not allow decent, hard-working people who have every reason to need relief from their hard daily labors, who need to reaffirm life, to recover from the weariness, cares, and burdens of every day, to have their necessary pleasures ruined by the eternal chicanery of these pedants.

We need more affirmation of life and less complaining! More morality, but less moralism!
t. Goebbels-san

http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb60.htm

>>167391587
True. Women stopped marrying early. "Teenage pregnancy" used to be a sign of good health and fertility, but the Jews have turned it into a shoah.

>>167391349
Best part about the Grandi meme is that HPM uses a fake email, so while they think they're epic hackers for 'doxxing' him, they've actually just been spamming some Brazilian's facebook photo who probably isn't even aware of this place.

>>167391692
>drinking is equivalent to masturbating to cartoons of little girls
hmm

>>167391762
>Best part
It's all fucking cancer, they know that isn't HPM, yet they spam it anyway, because their sole purpose is to ruin this place.

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holy shit, Tiangguo generals are op as fuck

i assume it's to counterbalance their absolute shit army (mostly militia)

they get all the PLA generals too like Zhu De, Li Da, Zhou Enlai, Cheng Xilian, and lots of others

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>>167391795
>They would ban masturbation
>They would ban pictures of naked women
>They would ban drawings of naked women
>Nippo-Germanic cross-cultural exchange wouldn't be a thing
"No."

>>167391412
it's ok
it has some waifus

>>167391942
>they wouldn't ban paedophillia

>>167391942
Senpai it's bait. People that start spamming about hating anime and calling people pedos all the time are just baiting.

>>167384497
Read the LN

>>167391692
He's saying drinking and smoking aren't necessarily some evil sins. He's not saying that having wild hedonistic orgies is okay.

>>167391709
Pretty much. I disagree with /r9k/ and Rodger's view that 'all women are bad'. No, women follow the flock. And if one or two is allowed to be degenerates, the rest follow the flock. This is why some element of control enforced by the state on society is necessary in order to preserve it.

tfw Man in the High Castle show actually presents NatSoc society as a good thing and many radical centrist friends have been calling me up going 'hmm.. maybe they had it right all along'

>>167392102
>heh, everyone who dislikes my actions is just jelly
the absolute state of animefags

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Willy on suicide watch

>>167392134
>many radical centrist friends have been calling me up going 'hmm.. maybe they had it right all along'
They say to me "Donald, you need to establish national socialism, it'll be a great thing". They all say to me "look at this, it's really something, am I right?" and you look at it and have you seen it? Truly incredible, believe me.

>>167391942
>Nippo-Germanic cross-cultural exchange wouldn't be a thing
It wouldn't be. Anime wouldn't even be a thing because Japan would remain a strictly militaristic society as it was before American consumerism was sent in along with the radiation of those nukes. And even then the Japanese were extremely against 'mixing in' with other cultures. The NatSoc ideology opposes this as well and prefers that nations be equal, though separate.

I'm not even anti-anime, I'm just saying that if the Axis won, anime wouldn't even be a factor.

>>167392019
I'm pretty sure that was already illegal in Weimar Germany. Probably.

Protip: If your argument rests upon the use of epithets against a grossly caricaturized version of the thing you are against, it's probably not a good one.

>>167392102
I know, a lot of them are doing it unironically though.

>>167392259
>Japan would have cartoons
Fucking North Korea has cartoons.

>>167392259
Anon I hope you realize that Japan was not quite the same NatSoc as Germany.

>>167392281
>If your argument rests upon the use of epithets against a grossly caricaturized version of the thing you are against, it's probably not a good one.
Unrelated, but I'm trying to think up a good reason to hate gays, can anyone help me? I mean, I just hate them because they're unnatural and disgusting, but that's not enough to convince normies to hate them too.

>>167392441
Cartoons are different from lewd anime. Maybe you'd have anime's style, but it definitely wouldn't be lewd nor 'kawaii'.

>>167392490
It wasn't NatSoc at all, but it was very traditionalist.

>>167392281
These are the facts, lad. You watch cartoons of hildren in short skirts with cute voices and I don't know what else because I don't watch that shit, but you can't deny that's pretty fucking creepy. I know you're saying you're not a pedo but if there was a "gateway drug" to pedophilia then you would be addicted to it.

>>167392490
NatSoc Germany was not quite the same as his headcanon, either. They didn't even shift their economy into full wartime mobilization in 1942.

>>167392574
If you're being unironic, you can say they spread disease, and liberal political attitudes that are negative to society as a whole or at the very least contrary to your own views. That is my take on it, but it isn't grounds to 'hate,' however, so you should probably just stop being a little bitch.

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>tfw only obtained this late

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Alright lads, going to embark on my Angevin Empire game

When I form it, should I stay English? What should I do with France?

Here's all of the English cultures, the one in Ireland is Hiberno-Norman/Old English

I'll also get Welsh and Cornish added to the culture group, as well as Breton into the French group.

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>>167391917

i strike on 1 january

we will remove manchu and restore glory to China

>>167392609
>all anime is lewd
Memelord detected, fuck off
Hell even motherfucking China has anime with panty shots and groping now and this is the country that flat out makes porn illegal

>>167392714
>If you're being unironic,
It's hard being so edgy that people always ask if you're being serious or not. I guess this is the result of being a social recluse in a society where you get arrested for calling people niggers.

>>167392574
>Unrelated, but I'm trying to think up a good reason to hate gays, can anyone help me?
I don't hate gays but I think they should keep it in their own homes, as long as they don't swagger around publically then I don't give a shit

>>167392692
>I don't know what else
>I literally don't know what I'm talking about but I'm going to talk about it anyway

>>167392779
>Tianguo
What's the backstory behind these guys, I haven't played DH in a long time

>>167392843
How successful is that?
>your chinese mummy will never see how stressed you are from the porn ban and offer to help you relieve some tension

>>167392954
>getting this defensive
Lad, I don't watch anime, so I don't know how bad it is, but from what I have seen of it it is softcore paedophilia.

>>167393070
It isn't even getting defensive, just imagine someone who's never taken physics but read the wikipedia page decisively arguing that QCD doesn't make sense.

/gsg/ is anime

>>167393164
>implying they're at all the same
You don't help your case by posting pictures of little girls whenever anyone brings up the subject.

>>167392692
I hope you realize that this line of argumentation is no different in any significant manner to: "Violent videogames causes/increases/encourages violence it really doesn't, therefore we should ban/restrict them." Or, "Access to firearms increases violent crime rates/deaths It doesn't really so we need to ban/restrict them."

Even as far as actual pedophilia is concerned, all the research I've seen indicates that, if anything, access to pornographic outlets, e.g. lolishit and probably actual cp though I'm not going to argue in favour of that reduces rates of sexual abuse of children.

>>167392989
I think they are remnants of the Heavenly Kingdom

>>167391917
>Tiangguo generals are op as fuck
The power of Jesus (and his little bro) compel them to badassery lad

>>167393235
>legalise assault lol it reduces rates of murder
>legalise weed lol it stops people taking other drugs
>legalise mass shootings lol it stops genocide

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>>167393230
>implying it isn't
You can get cursory knowledge of QCD from Wikipedia because it does a surprisingly good job of an introduction, just like you can get cursory knowledge of anime from reaction pictures. It doesn't mean you know shit about it.

>>167393345
I mean, assault, mass shootings, etc. are already legal. In video games, that is.

we need someone to get waggling

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A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent.[1] One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".

For example:
>Quoting an opponent's words out of context—i.e., choosing quotations that misrepresent the opponent's actual intentions (see fallacy of quoting out of context).[3]
>Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender, then denying that person's arguments—thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position (and thus the position itself) has been defeated.[2]
>Oversimplifying an opponent's argument, then attacking this oversimplified version.

>>167393569
Really makes me think

>>167393569
woah

>>167393759
Sudan?

>>167393759
I saw green and purple and almost responded thanks doc on reflex

>>167393835
>Not Byzantine Southern-Aegyptus

>>167393995
>no known language
>threatened with terrible curses

>>167393995
Culture convert to German and move the capital to Berlin lad

>>167393995
Culture convert to Turkish and move the capital to Berlin lad

>>167393995
>crushing filthy pagans as Romans
DEUS VULT

>>167393995
Culture convert to Mongol and move the capital to Helsinki lad

>>167392117
Why. I looked it up and People say the endings are the same

>>167392779
Post updates anon. I tried to play as them a month or so ago but got rekt by Quing.

Hello lads, what eu4 mods do you guys use? nothing that changes the base game or removes ironman-compatibility, but nice texture mods like Theatrum Orbis Terrarum and other cool visual improvements like that would be nice

in osu i'm always drawn to the most sleek skins, so i'd love something similar for eu4 if you know what I mean.

>>167393995
Culture convert to meme and move the capital to meme lad

>>167394617
Fuck off back to paradoxcordsteamplaza laddddddddddddo you clearly don't have a good enough grasp on the intricacies of our high quality memeage lad.

>>167394572
It's heavily implied that they fuck and stay together instead of the retarded hurr timed relationship
I think there was another short story too

>>167393995
What portrait mod? What borders mod?

>>167394714
How many levels are we on here?

>>167394714
"no"

>>167394754
None and none. I don't mod my video games.

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>When your enemy's allies are about to arrive and crush your ass but you manage to capture the enemy's king so they have to surrender.

>>167394865
THIS

Allah CLEARLY STIPULATES that you are NOT supposed to give in to idol worshiping. HPM is clearly the devil and you are all under his sway!

Come to the light! Convert to Islam today!

>>167394865
>I don't mod my video games

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Based Erdogan

>>167394735
Thanks, I might do that. That ending is probably the worst ending I've seen in fiction and made me irrationally angry for days

>>167395029
t.urk

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>>167394596

i haven't gained much ground and it's pretty much been a back-and-forth for the same few provinces. i'm trying to spam militia and then upgrade them into infantry but it's obviously taking a while.

in world news: AUS annexed US, about to rape CSA and PSA

Russia was social democrat for a while but then switched to Soviets, just attacked Sternboi (who had killed the Tibetans and Ma a while back)

Mitteleuropa now at war with Internationale + Russia

>>167394926
*revert

>>167395064
Turks are based

>>167395045
Read Haganai instead :^)

>>167394735
Do they make babies though

>>167395196
No not explicitly because there's laws against it or something
Explicitly it's still just as empty as the anime, it's implicitly better

>>167395029
t. urk roleplayer

>>167395129
t. urk

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Nips just DOW'd Qing

i expect my job will be a lot easier from now on but i'm afraid this will fuck everything up

meanwhile commie Dutch + Frogs are reaming Willy and he is on suicide watch

PSA taking lots of the Midwest but AUS should have enough IC/troops from having occupied the east to deal with them in the long run

>>167395343
no u

>>167395167
why

>>167395385
To get angry

>>167395415
give me the long and short of it. Is it more incest cop-out?

>>167395415
El fish's Don have c DVD an mix a DC BFF BSc

>>167394929
I don't. I even played Morrowind vanilla.

>>167395496
...what

>>167395482
No it's just flat out rage inducing
The short of it is that it's a fun friendship novel, the editor flips out because he wants a harem for muh shekels, the author says no fuck you that wouldn't work, the editor flips out more, the author says fuck it and just tears the story apart on purpose in the most rage inducing manner possible

Hello lads, what eu4 mods do you guys use? nothing that changes the base game or removes ironman-compatibility, but nice texture mods like Theatrum Orbis Terrarum and other cool visual improvements like that would be nice

in osu i'm always drawn to the most sleek skins, so i'd love something similar for eu4 if you know what I mean.

:)

>>167395607
Wiki synopsis seems intersting. Says it's had several manga adaptations, any of those worth checking out if I don't want anger?

>>167395792
I dunno, I don't usually read the manga of LNs

>>167395779
You seem pretentious but the only mods I use are better graphics and a shit ton of music modsand anime portraits.

>>167395823
Oh. What about Welcome to the NHK? I love the anime, would you rec the LN?

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This Khmer is aethistic

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>open up vicky without hpm enabled by accident
>start a game anyway, just to see what its like
>fastest speed runs through the months ~4x faster than in HPM
unironically makes me reconsider vanilla desu

>>167396049
Didn't read that one, only watched the anime
Go read Overlord I guess, it's one of the newer hotnesses

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so this fucking happened

looks like this save might be ruined desu senpai

at least i'll try to kill the Yunnan faggots

ich bin ein preuße will ein preuße sein

>>167396128
Oh. Thanks for indulging my questions

>>167396104
Yeah, it's crazy how much faster it is but honestly I can't stand to play without hpm anyway

East vs West

>>167396196
why are you using Openoffice when you can just torrent Microsoft office?

>>167396049
Not the guy you're talking to but I read WttNHK and really enjoyed it, probably more than the anime even.
However the LN is far more depressing and the humour is much darker so a lot of people don't like it.

He grew into an apartment. A big one with lots of happy tennants. But his schoolteacher said he could not allow the tenants to be so happy, for their own happiness, so she disallowed him to open up his rooms to them at the price all had previously happily agreed upon. The tenants now had to pay less, as per the restriction set up by common core. The big apartment was then bullied by everyone, everyone wanted to get in, even tim the bully and harold the local pedophile. The tennants already in there didn't want to leave but the bullies knocking on the door had so much power and influence they tricked the apartment into renting out his rooms to them and only them. The tennants were now so so sad because they could not live in their happy apartment anymore with their happy price agreement, because miss ratched the schoolteacher said they would be better off if they paid less. They were smart and knew that not to be true, but they could not convince the schoolteacher, because all the other students loved her and were on her side and always made sure to be her good kids, and the bully's dad was banging her and harold the pedophile was paying her.

The schoolteacher never learned her lesson and actually raised the minimum wage some years later.

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>>167396330
i actually got microsoft office for free (legally) about a year ago but i still mostly use openoffice out of habit/because it's /comfy/

Germany collapsed and the German Union formed, AUS finally united America, and this is muh China. gonna take on the Republic next

>>167396832
But openoffice is trash though

>>167396737
>>167396926
Neither of these were necessary.

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>>167392745
Here are the French cultures I can choose from

pls notice me

>>167396604
t. Dugin

>>167397059
Is this VEF? Depends where you want your capital to be
If it's in England then go Old English
If it's in France then go Norman

yeehaw

I really wish EU4 had a good adjusted province borders mod or something

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is this worth playing?

>>167397267
:(

>>167397172
It's Shattered Europa 2, which uses Beyond TYPUS as a base map.

I'm probably going to keep my capital in London, so France will be Old English

>>167397304
well? is it not finished or something?

>>167397164
dugin is based

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Well that was anticlimactic.

In EU4, how am I able to steal maps?

>le bumpf
kill yourselves steamcard

>>167397961
Step 1: Find a nation that is likely to have maps you lack, usually a colonizer like Portugal or some asian on the border of terra incognita
Step 2: Build Spy Network up to 50
Step 3: Find the Region map filter
Step 4: Put a unit in the Region adjacent to the one you can steal maps from
Step 5: Click button

>>167397976
VUMPF IS NOT MY POST

>>167398071
>>167398071
Where's the button for stealing maps? Don't see it.
I'm currently warring as Castile against Granada and Morocco.

>>167398335
diplo screen, under covert actions

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>>167398361
Not seeing it.

>>167398574
bump

>>167398574
You don't have the Mare Nostrum DLC installed.

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dae ming dynasty?

How do I get based Tudor dynasty as England? Don't want the Lancasterfuckingshits.

>>167399070

>Tudor
>based

lad

>>167398926
Can someone tell me what the actual fuck DAE means? I get it's some sort of retarded redditspeak but what does it even mean?
Also can you actually restore the Empire

>>167399191
It isn't an acronym it's pronounced day. It means the pleasure of being cummed inside.

>>167399104
>Lancasters better than Tudors

lad...

>>167399070
Pretty sure there's an event after the War of the Roses ends which lets you get an heir of house Tudor.

>>167399251
Seriously?

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Name him, lads!

>>167399191
It's how the Scottish pronounce "do".
Dae ye understand?

>>167399460
Keep rolling until you get Wilhelm

>>167399191
>>167399251
>>167399361
Does Anyone Else

Since there's so many EU4 fags in the thread, how do I fix prestige decay without going to war so much? I don't want to blob lads, just have a comfy game.

>>167399460
Freddy

>>167399615
>But in all seriousness, we can't let this guy get his hands on the nuclear codes!
Is this the anti-Trump version of Furthermore I am of the Opinion that Carthage must be Destroyed

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>>167399603
>>167399626
Ok, both of you got your wishes.

>>167399615
lol so random xD

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>>167399615

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>>167372151
I'm sorry about the lack of anything concrete to show about lewdmod, I've been really busy with life circumstances, bad things have been afoot. Plus the skeleton that will hold everything together isn't anything exciting, and I still have to learn the limits of what can be done in the CK2 engine, versus having to magically make happen with janky spaghetticode.

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Why in the hell do Ottomans so often get to ally France and Russia in the latest patch? In all of my games they are allied to either or both. It doesn't make any sense. No wonder why they have become much stronger than they already was.

In EU4, can you not do trade if you're land locked?

>>167400416
Of course you can.

>>167400416
Why wouldn't you be able to? "Caravan Power" is even a stat.

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>Darkest Hour is considered the best Hearts of Iron game
>It has an espionage and diplomacy system that are so inconsequential, they might as well not be around at all
Explain this

>>167400493

>Hearts of Iron, a game focused almost entirely on military affairs during WWII (and WWI in Darkest Hour's case) requires in-depth diplomacy and espionage to be good

what did he mean by this?

>>167400416
in a ca 10 player mp game I hade the highest trade without a single light ship

>>167400482
>>167400445
But you have to become a merchant republic then, no?

>>167400634
No? Every single nation in the game does trade.

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>>167400634
no, lol?

>>167400737
>>167400717
Well I'm noob. How do I "caravan power"? I just read the wiki and see it as a bonus where merchant republic gets most bonuses.

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>>167400634
everyone has caravan power, merchant republics just have more of it

be more specific about what you want to accomplish

Where to get all the current DLC for ck2? The forum in the OP is just all shitty zippyware virus links

>>167400769
Caravan Power is applied to Inland Trade Nodes where you have merchants.

The amount of caravan power is based on your development, it is capped at 50, and then it can be modified further by things like being a merchant republic.

>>167400609
Diplomacy IS part of it, if it weren't then there'd be no diplomatic options at all (like the "War in the [x]" games). I don't want to do HoI 4 tier shit like turning America gommiefascist for shits and giggles, but I do want to do things like inviting other countries that could realistically be convinced to join to my faction.

Also, I don't want to blob grossTannuTuviums, but if you play a country with little to no events written for it you do nothing. Especially because even asking to join a faction will often get you rejected.

In regards to diplomacy and espionage, HoI III is clearly superior (though inferior in everything else).

>>167400803
I just assumed I couldn't do trade when I played as Poland because I only had one node and had access to only 1 upstream node.