/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

You are not deserving of the mire.

What did ds2 add to the lore with regards to the 4 lord souls? I vaguely recall something about a cycle.

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I can't wait for this game to die

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This is my new weaponfu

>>167361342

oh yeah, forgot memezaki hates strength weapons

>>167361598
Well you know how you can get someone's soul and transpose it or eat it and get beefy?
Other people can do that too. Greater, more powerful souls persist through the ages without dissipating as much, although by DaS3 Seath's soul is probably shared equally between Oceiros, Crystal Sages and the rest of the Grand Archives.

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>>167361702

>>167361598
First of all, it added the idea of Seath having a soul, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Second, it's ambiguous wether or not Great Old Souls you go hunting for in the game are actually the Lord Souls, or just the souls of the Lords themselves.

>>167361924
>>167361702

Can you parry that, and does it have horizontal swings?

I know it's a bit of a stretch, but Vendrick is a chore, is anyone available to help me get the Ancient Dragon's Giant Soul in SOTFS on PS4?

>>167361380
What was it's endgame?

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>>167362027
It's a greataxe, it can't be parried when 2 handed.

>>167361598
All it added is a retarded nonsense like shards of manus doing some keikaku doori for their father, Nito being a katanafaggot for some reason and Seath having his soul which is a complete retardation.

Don't get me started on Gwyn's soul in the volcano.

>>167361949
But Seath did have a soul, Gwyn's fragment

>>167362192
Wtf is gwyns soul in a volcano supposed to mean? I didn't play ds2 btw.

>>167362217
In DS1 it is referred to as a fragment of soul given from Gwyn to Seath. In DS2 it's treated like it's Seath's own soul which is moronic as he's a dragon.

>>167362217
I mean a soul of his own, dummy.
The Great Soul in DS2 is clearly marked as the Old Paledrake Soul, which Seath, as a purebreed Everlasting Dragon [even if heavily mutated, probably by the Flame's influence], by all means shouldn't have.

>>167362296

haha, I don't know, lol

Didn't play 2 either. But 2 sucks.

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>>167362160
>>167362027
But it's not like you need to parry a slow weapon anyway

>>167362296
One of the four "lords" in DS2 drops Gwyn's soul in ng+ for whatever retarded reason despite this not making any sense as he lives in a giant-ass volcano in completely different land.

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>>167362192
Anon you best not be insulting Best Lord

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>>167362442
>BB reskin kiddies actually believe this

Wow Nioh looks pretty awful.

>>167362585
>implying
Nothing will ever top the first game.

>>167362563
He's cool but tonal shift between Tomb of the Giants and Amana/Undead Crypt is so enormous i can't treat any DS2 references to him seriously.

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>>167362519

>>167362537
Hmm I see. So basically lore is convoluted in drangleic.

>>167362585

I was going to buy 2, but then I watched the matthewmattosis critique, so now I know it's shit.

>>167361598
>>167361906
In DaS2 the lords' personalities became imprinted on the souls themselves, causing the holders to eventually gain the traits and faults of the original owners. Iron King got Gwyn's, Lost Sinner got The Witch's, Seath got stuck in a mutant spider, and The Rotten got Nito's.

By DaS3 it seems most of the lord souls have faded and the last lingering lord soul is Seath's which isn't in one person any longer but instead spread throughout the books of the great archives, the crystal sage, etc.

I am new to sorcering, and I started a new character for that, because my Dex->Qualilty->Pyromancy progression across journeys came to the end.

What psells should I prioritize getting, and how long till magic weapons git better than using dark hand? I've been punching my way to magicman of Vinheim, and dancer for the hex of it. But I am not exactly drowning in souls so I can't do my usual "buy everything before NG+" approach.

>>167362821
Hey, glad to see DS2 lorefag with his moronic fanfiction theories.

>>167362821
I thought the lord souls were consumed by the chosen undead who then linked the flame. Shouldn't they be burning away as fuel for the flame? How did those 4 scrubs get their hands on em?

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>>167362054
Gather more into it's body.

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Challenge /dsg/, name your top5 DaS2 boss fights not including the dlc ones.

Prepare to Die mode: make it 10

You can't do it.

Holy shit I want pathetic lorecucks to leave.

Just read Berserk and stop giving Vati your money

>>167363065
wait

which one is this

looks sotn but has the best girl

>>167362710
DaS1 aged like milk
>bosses with slow, narrow movesets
>sluggish backstab pillow enemies
>half of the game is rushed as fuck
>nonfunctional covenants
>obsolete covenants
>a glorified shortcut for a covenant
>shit magic variety
but muh atmosphere muh world interconnection right?

>>167362821
>gain the traits and faults of the original owners
hahaha remember when Gwyn was tempting kings and transforming them into giant-ass fire demons

>>167362962
Weren't the souls just used to sate the lordvessel, I mean Gwyn didn't have his when he set himself on fire.

Did they miss a trick by not just plonking the lord souls in the fire?

>>167362713
I can totally respect that opinion, but even by DSI I was always a Nito fanboy so the DS2 references doing nothing but cementing his status as Papa Nito are totally okay in my books.

>>167362962
Remember that the games aren't totally clear wether or not the Lord Souls are really the souls of the Lords themselves. Dark Souls 2 builds a lot of its lore and setting based on ambiguity such as that.

Any more leaks, like in the previous thread ?

>>167362563
>best lord
>have become completely irrelevant after 1st game
>at best was eaten by Aldrich

Going to replay DS3 after a long break. Just wanting to do a luck build with Anri's sword since I never got around to it back when I played.

Is it still super viable? Straight swords are still broken right?

>>167363104

Easy

1.Darklurker
2. Ruin Sentinels
3. Smelter Demon
4. Demon of Song
5. Covetous Demon

6. Looking Glass Knight
7. Executioner's Chariot
8. Old Dragonslayer
9. Flexile Sentry
10. The Pursuer

>>167362757
>r1ing in front of someone like that

>>167363132

It's a metaphor for putting shackles on humanity

>>167363502
Tried to predict a roll, failed and got punished. Still funny how that backstab played out.

>>167363104
1) Dark Lurker
2) Old Dragon Slayer
3) The Pursuer x2
4) Lost Sinner
5) PROWLING MAGUS BOOOOOOOOOOOOOI

>>167362962
>>167363165
>>167363132

The theory right now is Drangleic invaded Lordran at some point and looted a bunch of artifacts, possibly souls included.

DaS2 lore sucks when it comes down to it because of their "What's this thing? Who knows, it's best left unsaid" lore that's even more vague than Miyazaki's storytelling.

>>167363104
1. Lost Sinner
2. Darklurker
3. Smelter Demon
4. Old Dragonslayer
5. Velstadt

Can't do 10

People give way too much credit to Souls writing.

Most of it reeks of "Make shit up as we go" for better and for worse.

>>167363104
No counting DLC there were only like 2 fun fights. Can't name 5 when not even 5 were good.

>>167363665
Thanks and to everyone else who responded.

So are you saying we don't really know what vendrick swiped from the giants?

What about the throne of want, any info on that?

>>167362663
I think it looks pretty fun, but I absolutely despise its item system.

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>>167363126
>best girl
Harmony of Despair, my nigga

>>167363129
And yet with all of those flaws it's still a better game than DaS2.
How odd.

>>167363349
Because the other Lords have fared so much better.
>Witch of Izalith has literally exploded into demons
>The Furtive Pygmy was a bastard who made mankind a ticking time bomb just because he could
>Gwyn decided to rely on and trust everyone except the one actually reliable and trustworthy person in his entire court

Meanwhile Nito did literally nothing wrong.

QUICK

FINAL BOSS OF THE DLC

WHO IS IT?

>>167363873

I wish I could omit half of an entire game from my mind like you.

>>167363873
>Nothing will ever top the first game.
I'm not defending DaS2 here, I'm saying that new gen souls games (BB and DaS3) have already topped and impoved pretty much every aspect there was in DaS1.

So what's the meta level for DaSIII now? Haven't played in a good while and just wanted to start doing it again. Got a couple level 80's and a 120.

>>167364013
Man, The Furtive Pygmy

>>167364047
80 and 120.

>>167363872
>tfw Scas did hypno pictures of her

Dark Souls 3 is an unoptimized sack of crap.

I got a 660ti which should run the damn thing at a fairly stable level and all i get is random crashes EVERY FUCKING TIME. Completely random too.
Some times they will take 5 mins into the game and other times they won't occur until 40+ into it.

SOMEONE FUCKING HELP ME

>>167364043
There's still one aspect of DS1 no other game topped and its world design.
But that's literally it. I can't bring myself to play in DS1 after 3 and BB.

>>167364185

Was it the enforced permanent bondage and succubus transformation one?

I upgraded my graphic card to a 1070, but I keep getting crashes in DaS3, what do I need to do for it to fucking stop ?
My old card was also from nvidia, it was a 770 and I never had crashes issues on DaS3 with it.

>>167363491
>5. Covetous Demon
>9. Flexile Sentry
Why?

>>167363642
>5) PROWLING MAGUS BOOOOOOOOOOOOOI
WHY?!

>>167363757
You did well, no man with good taste can do 10.

>>167363831
That's the joke
For fun try it with the other games and see how easy it is.

>>167364110
Fookin lame.
I wanted a primordial hydra.

>>167364265
Yes

>>167364294

>5. Covetous Demon

I like his eating mechanic

>9. Flexile Sentry

I see you never made it to NG+

pcfc?

>>167364292
>>167364197
There has got to be a reason for this bullshit.

>>167364304
-502000 CrimsonBat
-512000 SnakeSoul
-519000 RuinCapitalKing
-523000 MatherDoragon
All those IDs are most likely related to DLC2 bosses so you still have your chance.
If MatherDoragon is correct, they might make an actual big bad the very first primordial dragon or something.

>>167364294
>You did well, no man with good taste can do 10.
No man with good taste can do a list of 10 good vanilla DaS1 bosses either.

>>167364419
>the numbers change every time
This is Pain of Ages/Demon of Feces all over again.

>>167364236
Ds1 plays almost completely differently than 3 and bb; attacks are slow and deliberate, rolling is far less versatile so shields are actually useful, healing is incredibly slow meaning you have to be very careful when you do it, etc. Ds3 just feels like bb wrapped up in a souls aesthetic

>>167363841
He stole the ability to give life to inanimate things. Which is how Vendrick made golems, Iron King made the Ironclads, Mytha made Mankins, and apparently how the giants existed and why they turned into trees by the time of DaS II.

Throne of Want is just another kiln. Only it's made to look like a throne and has a nice dome and door installed to keep the re-ignition burst from nuking the area like what happens in the other kiln.

>>167364540
Still a bit disappointed that name turned out to be fake,
>The Pain of Ages

Sound like a power metal album.

>>167364412
I don't get it. Never had a single crash in 1000 hours with my old 770 but I got at least one crash a day now. Just like >>167364412, it's totally random, just had one after playing for 4 hours straight. I also crash when trying to go into the DLC.
I tried the thing one guy posted : https://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/353915309335508254/?ctp=2
But it makes the game look blurry as fuck.

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Reminder that your "god" is a lazy chink who can't into pvp for shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tUuSG2zgOs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHjdSM3nHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAuIY58nv_k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke3HWo8fTpE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RntxCmqQqSA

5 DaS2 fights I liked.
-Looking Glass Knight
-Darklurker
-Fume Knight
-Ivory King
-Freja

>>167364620

Then how did they bring giants back to life

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>>167363872
Thanks m8. Shanoa is top tier material.

>>167364185
that's embarrassing and delet, please don't mention it

>>167364540
http://pastebin.com/03mpwKmD
It's from Zullie's pastebin.

>>167364034
Funny coming from someone who likes a game which is basically Lost Izalith stretched into a full game.
>More bosses!
>Quantity over Quality!
>Multiple enemies=difficulty!
>Enemy placement that doesn't matter and/or isn't intelligent in any way!

Not even mentioning the fact that DS2 tries reeeeally hard to be a good DS game and fails.
>Guys you know how DS1 is hard? Well we put a shit load of enemies everywhere! This is Dark Souls guys. It's hard.
>Guys remember Ornstien?! He was from the first game! He's here now! Nevermind the fact that he's right next to a dragon he isn't slaying, doesn't matter, look! Ornstien! This is Dark Souls.
>Guys.
>This is Dark Souls.
>Guys remember how DS1 hitboxes weren't the best? THEY'RE WORSE NOW!
>I would like to remind everyone that this is, in fact, Dark Souls.
>YOU WILL LOSE YOUR SOULS
>ALL OF THEM
>AGAIN AND AGAIN
>HAHAHAHAHA
>Guys. Guys.
>This is Dark Souls, guys.

>>167364695
>but I got
I meant to write "I get"

What are some weapons that you enjoy using from the DLC beyond the scythe or the Onyx Blade? I'd like to make a new character and rush for something cool.

>>167364763
The DaS I giants? Those are a different race of giants or some shit. The info. new DLC is calling them grey giants.

>>167363104
Smelter Demon
Ruin Sentinels
Ancient Dragon
Looking Glass Knight
Darklurker

>>167364854
crow quills

>>167364782
Come on anon, I'm sure you want to see the nose

>>167364594
>attacks are slow and deliberate
DaS3 shares a considerable amount of it's movesets with DaS1.
>so shields are actually useful
You mean overwhelmingly powerful? At least mobs in DaS3 have an actual chance of guardbreaking you.
>healing is incredibly slow meaning you have to be very careful when you do it,
Hardly.
It's faster than in DaS2, and it recovers hp instantly. Not to mention the sheer fucking amount of chugs you get.

>>167364368
>I like his eating mechanic
It's a neat trick, i wish i could see one time in my life.

>I see you never made it to NG+
More health and two fuckwits dont make it any better. Maybe NG+7 could be ok though

>>167364439
That's true though i can say it's arguable at least, while DaS2 is definitive.

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>>167364854
Earth Seeker takes practice but dawn it's satisfying to use, even if people can counter it easily by playing passive.

>>167364695
Nipps that aren't Capcom can't into PC optimization
Mind you, TW3 had a similar problem. Turns out i had to DOWNCLOCK my card in order to get it to work(don't bother for ds3, tried that and it doesn't work.

>>167364294
In fairness, looking at DaS 1 through 3, it's roughly 5 boss fights per game that I'd say I liked (not to say there aren't others per game that weren't at least decent).

>>167364294
>>For fun try it with the other games and see how easy it is.

BB

-Father Gascan
-Keeper
-Vicar Amelia
-Logy
-Story Amy G
-Story Rom
-Story Emissary (gank fight done right/cute)
-Headless BLB
-Yarnham
-Gehrman

>>167365063

How do you deal with casters?

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>>167365302
>she likes Rom
For what purpose

>>167365349
>Sorceries/Miracles
I try to be aggressive and go for headshots
>Pyros
I die to black flame spam

>>167365067
Now that I think about it, I did have crashes on the 770, but it was because the card was dying, I had issues on every games. I had to downclock it to get DaS3 to work.
But since my current card is far from dying and that I have no issues with other games, I don't plan to downclock it just for DaS3. I will if I can't handle more crashes. I just installed the latest drivers but I doubt this will solve anything.

What is a good weapon for a faith build? Ideally I'm thinking more miracle heavy for supportive coop.

>>167365302
>rom
>emissary (no, being cute doesnt justify another phalanx)
>blb
>yarnham
Terrible.

>>167364981
The same movesets with the speed cranked up to 11 maybe, you swing almost twice as fast in Ds3. And yes the healing is slower than Ds2, but I was comparing it to 3, where chugs are literally so fast they're uninterruptable in pvp, while still allowing you to move.

>>167365063
40str 40fth?

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>>167364620

If that's true it would explain the lore behind Syan set. Venny probably tried making some semi-autonomous armor infused with the soul of his dead knight friend (to make the royal troops better?) and it fucked with the wearers and drove them mad instead.

>>167365539
dragonslayer's axe

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>>167365405
fixed it for you

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>>167365405
Story Rom is fun and that lake setting and the following cutscene are cool as hell. Not really a fan of CD Rom.

>>167365595
You have never played either game if you think it plays anything like the phalanx.

Pic related.

>Get invaded by Mad Phantom at the door of Cursed greatwood, where I am waiting for Jolly co-op.
>just casually walk out the door leading to the tower and stand near the wall, waiting to ambush the guy when he runs past me.
>He runs at mach speed past me and tries to look for me.
>I hide behind a pillar to see if he comes back.
>He just gives up and BSCs out.
>Get summoned for cursed greatwood.
>Host enters the match.
>Get message about the same phantom being sent home.
>Take a short break.
>Get summoned again.
>The same Mad Phantom gets sent hom.

That guy just can't get a break.

>>167365405
lucifer is a gal?

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>>167365675
>implying Gwyn and the other gods don't reproduce asexually

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>>167365636

>>167365463
>>167365851
ever considered using the darkmoon ring to cast vow?

What is the best melee weapon for a sorcerer in scholar? I am a staff user but I also do a bit of melee here and there. I use the magic mace right now.

>>167365405
>Gwyn's shit didn't make it into DaS3
why

>>167366010
I do have a free ringslot, but I don't have a darkmoon ring

>>167366035
Enchanted Santiers Spear

>>167366010 >>167365851
Not sure if it would be very useful in his case.
but consider getting an axe in the left hand

>>167366035
Flashsword
Soul Greatsword
Dark Edge

>>167366076
Stand by. I'm going to try to find fashion to resemble Gwyn.

>>167366076
The last boss is basically Gwyn. The second phase is absolutely Gwyn.

>>167364410
WHERE

>>167366035
Crystal buffed raw blue flame for mid int, crystal buffed magic for high int

>>167365189
>pull adds out
>attack main one
>win
Only difference is that you have no reason to bother yourself killing them like you can with phalanx. It's just Rat Vanguard 2.0 which was Phalanx 2.0, and now we have Emissary 2.0 with the deacons.

Creativity died with DeS

with a good reason since most of the fights were not good

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Do u even pray to dragons ?

>>167366076
It's almost identical to NK's, just flip the hair upside down and throw out the scarf.

>>167366160
Why quote me? But yeah, offhanded millwood might be good. If you wanted to take that route though, you may as well use mainhanded dark sword with offhanded yhorms.

Anyone on PC willing to drop Yurias armor and/or rings?

>>167366327
You want paleshade shit too?

>>167366160
That kinda defeats the point for me. I like trying to win with just the axe. I'd rather take the death, it's not that big of deal.

But now I want to try the vow of silence, tho I don't feel like farming concords

>>167366327
I can backup and drop them for you
you need anything else?
Souls? +2 rings?

>Gravetender boss fight
>This entire fucking DLC

What the hell were they thinking?

>>167366198
Literally nameless' stuff with propaned and sacred flame. If you don't like the jack hair, use lorians or wolnirs crown

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>>167366314
>Do u even pray to dragons ?
dragons belong here.

>>167366253
You know what DeS also didn't have?
Fast bosses with complex moves.

>>167366446

Ring of Favor +2 and Chloranthy Ring +2 as well would be great.

I'm at high wall.
password: tradan

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>>167366314
of course I do

>>167366437
>>167366446
>All these PComrades giving eachother stuff
>Noone on XB1 to give me any form of attention at all

>>167366314
No, you talk to them through telepathy.

>>167366446
I guess. try using force+WA.

>>167362027
2h greatweapons are all unparryable
except the farron GS because FROM hates you and doesn't want you to have fun or use cool weapons

>>167366656
red sign is down

>>167361598
Its autism. You can get a bonus of the original games main bosses souls from their successors in NG+ so you can craft their weapons.

They get extremely triggered by the paledrake soul for some reason, despite the fact the boss that gives you it doesn't actually have a big soul, unlike the other 3 who give you one. Also there are more bosses that actually do also have big souls that don't drop extras in Ng+

The cycle is that an undead hunts down powerful enemies in order to eventually become Monarch, who usually fall for the same old tricks the ones the last dude killed were.

They think that they are literally reincarnations of the lords/lordvessel bosses because of said new game+ drops. Despite that they say that they became powerful by growing incredibly ancient, and that King Vendrick was also an undead who killed four powerful enemies in his age but at least one of yours 'The Old Iron King' is older than Vendrick.

>>167366870
where would farron gs even be in the meta if it had unparriable standing attacks+WA?

>>167363104
Velstadt
Pursuer
Freja
Lost Sinner
Flexile Sentry.

>>167364043
Dark Souls 3 unfortunately fucks up the level checkpointing and while DaS 1 and BB feel like genuine tense adventures, DS3 splits the feeling of adventuring into bite-sized chunks between bonfires and it honestly blows. Cathedral of the Deep and Grand Archives were the best DS3 levels due to the devs not fucking up the flow of the levels to please casuals.

>>167362047
the ancient dragon's soul does not come from killing the dragon

you just need to head back to freyja's boss room with the ashen mist heart

>>167366923

Thanks man.

>>167366968
the WA would probably still be parryable. it's just r1s/r2s that can't be parried
that change would just put it on par with the other UGSes in the game which are already better than it

>>167367017
He went to the trouble of putting giant soul. Come on anon.

How viable is a pure spellcaster (any kind) in DS1?

>>167366542
kekd

>>167367245
im dum

What the fuck, Storyteller staff is fucking rubbish.

It does fuck all damage to anything with it's weapon art. Have I been rused?

I was told to use it against Demon Kang.

>>167367252
Very

>>167367252
>How viable is a pure spellcaster (any kind) in DS1?
DO YOU EVEN CRYSTAL BRO?

>>167367008
>due to the devs not fucking up the flow of the levels to please casuals.
Man, you can just tell they have tried to make the game easier in a hidden way to please casuals.

>it just so happens the most common weapon type has the most OP moveset
>it just so happens rolling, which is what casuals did the most when they panic, was buffed to oblivion
I guess Bamco just wants to hit on those pofit numbers, hopefully FROM never does anything with them again.

>>167367252
pure pyromancer has too few casts to actually last for entire location, especially for the start
pure sorcerer is good yet extremely boring to play as because variety of magic in ds1 sucks
pure miracle user is a torture because even the basic damage dealing spell is locked behind a covenant reward
the are all extremely primitive compared to ds3

>>167367363
the weapon art does something like 3x as much damage as any other source of poison

note however that 3 times "FUCKING NOTHING" is still not useful

Anyone can drop me a darkmoon ring? Just backup your save please. I want to try vow of silence

PC, highwall
pass: vow

>>167366968
if none of FGS' attacks, save rolling ones, could be parried, it would instantly become the new meta.

It does more poise damage than any other weapon in the game since each L1 has both dagger and UGS poise damage.

how does the new resin buff bug works? I want to try it out before it gets patched

>>167367537
comin

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Just doing a PvE sorcery run. I heard soul stream got nerfed because no fun allowed. Is it still usable in PvE if I time it well? Or did they touch the damage as well as the range?

>>167367687
To my knowledge, only the range was nerfed, damage is still what it was.

Does the Black Separation Crystal softban you in ds3 if you use it too many times? I really don't feel like playing hide and seek with chameleon seeders and I've found a few tonight.

>>167364368
i wish covetous demon's eat mechanic wasn't tied behind some extremely slow easy-to-dodge grab attack

imagine if him unequipping all your shit was a consistent part of the fight that always happened at the beginning

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Why does everyone with this shitty dark pyro do the same thing.

>Cast Spell
>Dash Like a Retard
>Get R1'd.

Why can't they see I've Black Knight Shield and a Spear.

>>167367685
Thanks

>>167364368
>I see you never made it to NG+
The suspicious shadows were one thing I LOVED about DS2. Even though I ended up hating the game, early on I aesthetic'd that area, farmed all their gear and invaded no mans wharf as one of them.

Bleed claws were so fucking fun back in the day.

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>>167366198
>>167366519
is this good?

>>167367867
That spell is like the dark souls 2 katana. So overused everybody knows how to deal with it.

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>>167367425
>pure miracle user is a torture because even the basic damage dealing spell is locked behind a covenant reward
>mfw I just started a game as a cleric

>>167367970

>no vanquisher's seal
>fist weapons suck now
>All people use now is a pocket potato for parrying

I was quite partial to the mannekin claws myself

>>167368074
Not even that. I literally r1'd this faggot 2 times by just side stepping that spell.

Same with Black Flame. I have a spear. I won't be rushing into your melee zone like idort.

FIGHT CLUB

what's the longest non-sprint melee attack in dark souls 3

>>167367424
Bloodborne has really stronk rolls too.
However, in BB they were your only defence and DaS3 makes the mistake of having knighty stuff like armor but not balancing it so that you would have to compromise mobility for protection like DeS and instead you can fastroll wearing standard knight armor without having to put points in VIT.

At least rolls should consume more stamina the more your equip load is.

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>>167368115
Just senpai share and itemswap yourself spells. I've been using dropping shit for myself left and right for past 4 months. Just don't swap any retarded OP shit.

>Be pure miracle guy
>the best damage early game you can get is Raw ASS
>Just use a filthy longsword half the game until you get wolnir's
>Still no decent spell.
>Kill Yhorm. Still no decent spell.
>Complete NG1.
>Finally, I have sunlight spear that's at same speed as ugs with sage +2.
>mfw everyone just r1spams and rolls away before spell even lands.

onislayer is so fucking broken jesus

>>167367679
-use "unusable" item, your dude plays a confused animation
-swap to selecting estus
-cast some spell (idk if it works with all of them or not, people use Heal Aid i think)
-immediately chug estus afterwards
-you play the estus animation but instead of the estus effect you get the effect from the item you tried to use

you can do this to stick resins on unbuffable weapons
you can also do this with the darksign while invading, which is how you boss invade

>>167367829
no anon
softbans are for cheaty-type shit, or for unplugging your internet or something to DC from an invader
BSC is literally part of the game

>>167368739

I looked it up and there seemed to be a LOT of conflicting information around it. I hope you're right.

>>167368586
Use a Shield or Roll Sideways. Done.

But yeah, It even broke Sunlight Talisman's Unfaltering prayer.

>>167368647
>people use Heal Aid i think.
If you have some faith. Use Force instead, it's faster and has more utility in general.

>>167368792
>It even broke Sunlight Talisman's Unfaltering prayer.

That's because of the headshot I think. Not the first stun.

>>167368115
faith build is really just "melee dude with a shitload of extra estus"

>>167368150
you can do p. high damage with caestus L1L1 combo if you throw in pontiff's eye, wolf greatsword in your offhand, and carthus beacon

all of them increase damage based on the # of hits you land and l1l1 is a guaranteed 4-hit combo

>Everybody I invade has high SL people helping them
>SL25
>phantoms using darkmoon blade, etc.

The password system is worse than twinking in DS1

>>167368375
do you count shit like the lance/pike's charge WA
it's pretty long but of course it involves locking yourself into moving forwards
or Gundyr's Halberd which has way better tracking on its charge and can actually hit people who try to sidestep

>>167368856
This.

Headshots break any poise, so you can't even reliably use Perseverance against it. Against Onislayer you just have to play more passively and space and punish.

I miss the times where it could be broken by things like greatswords, making it have infinite poise was a mistake, and this is coming from someone that used to main the weapon when it was more balanced.

It made the weapon more fun to have to use the WA intelligently, now you can just spam it even against ultra weapons.

>>167368875
>faith build is really just "melee dude with a shitload of extra estus"

And no stamina. Though you can end up healing alot with Soothing Sunlight. You might as well Ditch Estus and keep 15 Ashen Estus. The amount of health you gain at 60Faith is pretty high. Also pretty useful during co-op.

>>167368856
Yes. So can't trade with those anyway. Either Risk bleed or win a trade that can be won on their running attack.

>>167368875
>you can do p. high damage with caestus L1L1 combo
F. L1R2L1L1

>>167368570
>senpai share
hehe

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>>167368647
Pretty cool. I wish every weapon was buffable/infusable.

>>167368524
DaS3 has tons of things that bug me but the worst thing is how it distances itself from their RPG roots and goes way too much into the action side like BB. If BB is 90% action and 10% rpg, DaS3 is 70% Action and 30% RPG. The punishment for equipment load is part of that, either you were fast but with low armor, or big armor and slow, or even something inbetween.

>>167367867
>ToD instead of 35 fai regen

people try and combo off of black flame hitconfirms, typically either with CBV or black flame

beats me why he was more retarded than normal

Oh god... Playing one character for as long as I did my first one spoiled me.

I don't have souls, I don't have spells, and worst of all, I don't have titanite, how do you guys cope playing NG?

>>167369132
Now GL on hitting anyone with it. This entire weapon art is BS Bait.

>>167340027
>>167340027
Where is this datamined from?

>>167366247
im confused on this

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So...PCFC? I can host at Farron Bridge. Pass: dsg.

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>>167369078
>ashen estus
>das1


>>167369078
oh shit i didn't know about that
i played with caestus in das2 but haven't actually used it in 3

>>167368875
Well fug if that's the case I'm thinking I might as well not bother. I was planning on doing a miracle run of DSI but apparently it'd only work if I do some heavy Gravelord/Darkmoon/Sunlight covenant work and I'm guessing the game no longer has the online population for that sort of thing? Especially at lower levels

>>167369228
I thought the same, but then someone here said "put your back against the wall".

I did it. It fucking works.

>>167369142
The weight system didn't work properly though, because people could fast roll with retarded amounts of poise in builds like the Havelmom. From just discarded it instead of taking the effort to balance it.

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>>167369271
I'm down for some fights

Archdragon Greatshield?

>>167369251
get the sword named "blue flame" (farm from the spooky ghosts before velstadt)
infuse it with raw or magic depending on how high your int is
cast crystal magic weapon on it

>>167369328
Just like World Tendency and interesting covenants, FROM seems to like the idea of "if it doesnt work, throw it away" instead of fixing things.

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>>167369271
C O M I N G

>>167369149
I cba to equip it. I either lose by landslide or win by landslide.

>>167369282
Sorry, for DS1 honestly, Clerics feel more fun. Doing a Dark Knight was honestly most fun things. Occult Mace, because I love Mace. and DMB Man-Serpent GS. GrassShield + ThatVelkaWoG. Fun times.

https://youtu.be/FCa8OcqfAoc It got nerfed but yeah, shit was pretty op for a while.

>>167369308
Only against retards though. You can just stay away and throw 1-2 knives, fire crossbolt. Hell. You can fire a great arrow in that time. Though it'd reequired them equipped.

>>167369447
I see thanks, is that better than blue dagger from dlc?

>want to make a thor build but hammers are shit in DaS3
Why must you swing a mace like it's a 2 ton fedoralord on a stick?

What are some good early game ATT/FTH goals for a Paladin type build in DS3?

>>167369637
blue dagger is a shitty melee weapon but it increases spell damage when held, so you just use it as a stat stick

blue FLAME is a straight sword that can be used for melee attacks and also casts spells with its R2
CMW on the blueflame increases both its melee and its SPELL damage, although you need a second catalyst in your offhand to actually buff it

so
left hand some random staff, right hand blueflame
cast CMW with left hand
swap left to blue dagger

the ~5% damage boost from the dagger probably isn't worth it in pvp though since everyone uses buffed weapons and it decreases all your elemental resists by a huge amount

>>167369962
The latest patches actually made Maces good.

>>167370063
How so

Can someone drop me the archdeacon robes and the mitre?

I need them for fashion souls.

I'm on Commodore 64

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>Darkdrift shield pierce doesn't work like Blind
I miss FunSoft.

Wait what, Heysel Pick's a magic weapon?

It even outclasses my staff, neat.

>>167370063
Moveset still looks bad.

>>167370112
It got Hyperarmor. So get 28+ Poise and you can just R1 spam almost all small weapons.
You'd neeed 53 poise for GS though.

>>167370112
poise is a real thing that exists now, I suppose
you can outtrade people just by perseverancing through their attack and then bopping them on the head

>>167370176
it did in das2
i think all the "just passively pierces shields" weapons from das2 except scythes were nerfed in das3 to only pierce shields on the WA

>>167369985
>CMW on the blueflame increases both its melee and its SPELL damage, although you need a second catalyst in your offhand to actually buff it
Powerstanced blueflames were the shit.
Fuck I miss the spell damage being dependant of staff's elemental damage system so much, not to mention you could infuse catalysts on top of that.
Spellbuff is a retarded system.

>>167369976
how early? I'd say 14/30 or 14/25

>>167370176

Blind was my favorite designed souls weapon

>>167369976
lol

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>>167370112
>>167370234
>>167370260
don't forget dem roll catches

>>167369271
come to the fc niggers

>>167369976
bountiful light and great heal are good, but the latter isn't too grand when you've got a boatload of orange estus either way

Early game faith is kindof a meme. Low level miracles like replenishment are really good, but only if you've already pumped up vig and have the priestess ring and SPR for ring swapping, both of which aren't obtained until you reach two different dead ends in the game.

>>167370782
Make me

Does DS3 ever explain what those spooky black snakes that pop out of enemies are?
I thought they would be related to Aldrich because of the intro but it seems I was wrong.

>>167370230

It's pretty good. Use it in PvP. Shoot some farron darts, and 2h r1 people when they decide to roll into you

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>put red summon sign down
>host catches me off guard with dartcasting spell spam
>kills me
>summons me again
>BC out, getting fed up of all the scummy fight clubs I've been summoned to
>summons me AGAIN
>pissed off, can't bc out because I spawned right next to him
>stunlock him with my UGS while he tries to do his dart casting bullshit
>kill him
>point down
>doesn't summon me again

Friday nights are awful

>>167370782
>ds3 pvp
>dsg community
No

>>167370868
actually baddies like you don't have to attend

>>167361598
It didn't. Dark Souls 2 is an app game spinoff. It's noncanon.

>>167370782
I'd come, but I'm bad. :(

>>167370872
They're called the Pus of Man, and the're retty much another variety of Humanity running wild like in New Londo and Oolacile

>>167370872
Rampant Humanity.

>>167370397
Crucifixion Woods and yeah this is sorta ballpark what I had in mind. Thanks man.
>>167370857
Can you explain a little further?
>>167370416
Excellent contribution m8, 10/10. But seriously, what was so funny about the question?

>>167371103
>>167371143
But why do they come out of the two wyverns in the castle?

how does Perseverance work, anyways?
is it just "active poise" frames and you need real poise from equipped armor for it to be effective, or does it work like Iron Flesh where it temporarily INCREASES your poise as well.
basically I want to know if I can use it while naked

>>167371075
you can only get gud by playing against a better opponent

>>167366506
Gravetender would've been so neat if they had made it not a generic npc that's so loreless (at least on the surface) and given the wolf literally double health.

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>>167371181
make sure you beat the dancer, so you can get the most miracles early and a knight ring

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>>167361380
Which souls game is the best to do a Thief run in?

Besides 3, since that's still fresh.

I have them all, I just want to do a fun Knifey guy/gal run.

>>167371263
I'm not quite sure if the game explains that directly, I might be forgetting any item description addressing the fact, but it's most likely that they're just wyvern carcasses animated by Humanity parasites that infected the bodies. They die as soon as the Pus makes itself visible, after all.

>>167371075
You will stop being bad, when you practice.

In Dark Souls 3,

I know if you have a +10 weapon, then you can't invade people who have never had a +10,

does the same thing apply to +1/+2 rings? Like, if I have a +1 Ring, can I invade someone who's never been into NG+?

>>167371613
no

>>167371416
1.
Because, Thief Set Looks cooler in that, and You can Roll BS like a madman. Also Slumbering Ring and Ring of Fog.

>>167371613
Only weapons and sl is taken into account. So you can have +2 version and invade/get invaded by normal tier.

>>167371390
I have seen a lot about this dancer on here but I have no idea who/where it is.

I have a 18 STR, 16 DEX and 45 FAI. Will I find a weapon better than Raw Dragonslayer's Axe until I raise STR or DEX a lot?

>>167371332
It's neither as far as I understand.
You don't need poise or armor for it to be effective, but it still can be broken by certain attacks of some mobs, like the cathedral knights.
>t. farmed cathedral knights for 2 hours using a mace.

>>167371361
>>167371596
my fee-fees will get hurt if dsg bullies me

Might come, it's 2am though

It just occurred to me
Wolnir's just a less fun Cursed Greatwood.

>>167371818
You know the old lady at High Wall who gives you the ticket to Undead Settlement? Kill her, and she drops a key item. Go to the back of the room, and you'll trigger a boss fight you're not supposed to encounter until near the end of the game.

Beat the boss, and you gain access to the final part of the game, and all the end-game weapons and rings to go with it.

>>167371894
Drakeblood GS is a good weapon that you can use. Black Knight Shield + Drang Twin Hammer for R1/L1/R2 with DMB.
If you raise Dex by two, you can also us Astora GS. Partizan is also good.


Also is it me or it looks like there's a physical shortsword stuck inside wolnir holy sword? It'd be cool if you took durability down to 0 you'd get an entire new moveset like Santiers.

>>167371995
You can also cheese him by attacking one of his bracelets early, if you don't walk up and pick up the Pyromancy tome in his boss room.

>>167371985

How many other Euros are here?

Is there any benefit to killing Pursuer in the first encounter near the Cardinal Tower bonfire?

I summoned help for it because I remember getting dunked first playthrough and that he doesn't show up a second time, but I didn't realize killing him there makes him not show up as a proper boss later in the level

I feel dumb, I didn't really want to summon help for the boss but I thought killing him there gets you a better ring of blades or something and I didn't want to miss the chance

>>167372173
>Needing to cheese Wolnir.

The whole fight is cheesing, the only time it's not cheesing is when you have a mad phantom there with you. Wolnir's chalice covenant should've been Wolnir summoning players to fight alongside him.

>>167372047
Jesus man. Is that balls hard at low levels or what?

Also on a totally unrelated note, where do these giant crabs go when they burrow underground? Or does it matter? Just curious what they drop.

>>167372203
Idk, but I'm the only Pajeet here. 7am.

>>167372229
Nothing. Just Souls.

>>167372270
I usually kill her after I've explored catacombs after Abyss Watcher. You can get ash of wardens which will give you a really amazing consumable item.

can someone give me a quick rundown on the official pve build power rankings in DS2?

>>167372380
RobFlynn Blade
Hexer + Mace
BlueFlame Powerstance

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>>167372380

>>167372380
>craftsman hammer
>estoc
>dark fog + dark orb spam
>errything else

>>167372270
If you have the right equipment, the boss can be manageable. You have to git gud at not getting hit though, because at low levels any one of her attacks can kill you.

The crabs just show up in another part of the swamp, with full health. There's two of them in the watery area, if you beat both of them then you can wander the swamp unhindered and pick up goodies that they would otherwise harass you over. I'm pretty sure they don't drop anything but upgrade materials.

>>167372463
>blade
what
robflynnstonering rapier, you dope

>>167372203
2 am here, trying to finish a paper.
man, I haven't been in a fc in so long

>>167372203
dunno but I'm one

>>167372529
Sorry, I missed Leo. But Stone, really? In PvE Blade would be more useful. Just Parry/BS everything. Though Stone ring is useful against those blind twats.

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/02/03/expanse-co-creator-ty-frank-has-been-working-for-fromsoft

>Okay, enough said. We can't wait for Space Souls...
>I can guarantee you it is not that.

:(

>>167372473
aren't you the farva of /dsg/?

>tfw haven't played in months
>was going to buy DLC but it's lazy and dissapoitning
>now awaiting second DLC to be good and potentially get back into game

>get summoned to fight Cursed Greatwood.
>Host does absolutely nothing but fight the adds the whole time.
>Second phase starts
>They are visibly confused about what just happened, really disoriented. Clearly the first time they've seen phase 2.
>I stop fighting the boss to let them adjust to the situation.

How cute...

>>167372605
stone ring plus rapier is "literally spam r1 to stunlock any enemy that doesn't have infinite poise

rapier normally has low enough poise damage that you can't do that, and if you just spam r1 you'll get hit on the chin by some armored chump

even the really high-poise enemies in the DLCs have low enough poise that stone ring + rapierspam kills them before they can get off an attack

>>167372473

/our/ boy spitting the truth.

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I want to paint her white.

>>167372756
I just run to fog gate when second phase start. and stay there.

>>167372798
Oh nice. Never knew that. I just parried anyone that was annoying, like Alonne or those stone shits in second and third dlc.

>>167372714
>linking to shitaku
They really should have been dissolved after Hulk Hogan kicked Gawker's ass.

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>>167372473
>CE a trillion souls to level everything to 99
>"look guys Soul memory amirite lmao"

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>>167372473

>>167372975
if you CE to get more souls without increasing soul memory you get automatically softbanned
you can CE the edible soul consumables in but obviously that does increase SM

>>167373145
This person has too much free time.

>>167373145
>you tried

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>>167373236
>you hated DS2 so much you played enough to get to max level
or
>>167372975

Either way, you're faggot.

>>167370116
C'mon guys, I want to be the pope, but I don't want to kill the big hat bitch, because that stops red phantoms from invading, I like getting invaded by red phantoms and blue phantoms at the same time.

>>167373313
DS2 is his most played game.
Also stop giving tripfag yous.

>>167373342
You can still be invaded there if you trigger Abyss Watchers. Though you won't be able to hide behind fog gate.

>>167373390
Certainly more played than Bloodborne, that's for sure.

>>167373313
Or I just saved the image from one of these threads.

>>167373451
Really?

>>167373561
Yes. Entire place is one giant area.
It's fun when there are 1 Red, 1 Purple, 3 Blue. All trying to find you all over the map, but you hiding inside water. Or chilling with Wolfy

Real Ornstein will be an optional boss, calling it now.

>>167373746
Well, fuck, guess I have to go fight the deacons.

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>>167363104
Dragonslayer
Pursuer
Sentinels
Chariot
Smelter
Freja
LGK
Demon of Song
Velstadt
Aldia

>finally get Warmth from SL31 boss invading, most of those came from just regular grapist things
>lose all motivation to continue on to Irithyll despite beating Wolnir already

Remind me, I don't have to meet Siegward in the kitchen to save Greirat, right? I can just give Siegward his armor, send Greirat and then beat Old Demon King, right?

>>167373746
I still remember that anon live-posting pictures of him doing Stretch Out in the water in a seeded Crucifixion Woods, and all the invading Watchdogs just clearing out the entire area for him.

>>167373913
I hate that anon because that used to be a great hiding place. He showed it to the world a good hiding place.

>Fight enemy with bleed weapon
>quickstep through his attacks
>still get bleed buildup
what did they mean by this

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>>167364736
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke3HWo8fTpE [Embed]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RntxCmqQqSA [Embed]

>>167373913
if you haven't bought Sieggy's armor yet you can just talk to Patches and he'll save greirat instead

Am I supposed to be able to kill the black knight in the hallway near the Crucifixion Woods yet? Only tried once but the nigger hits like a truck.

>>167361821
>confirmed hyperarmorfag

>>167374297
Yes, just stop getting hit. They hit hard but attack slowly.

>>167374297
Just make your way through Farron Keep, you'll face him again eventually, trust me.

>>167374453
Don't ever reply to one of my posts again until you lose the name and tripcode, faggot.

>>167374297
yes, it just requires you to gitgud

or alternatively stand on the ledge above him and cheese him with a bow
there's a spot you can move to that's far enough back to cause him to deaggro instead of walking all the way up to you

>>167374598
second this, but for everyone

>>167374297
He's pretty hard to beat at low levels, because he can chain up to four attacks and any one or two of them can end you if you're not careful. Even if you do beat him and he somehow drops his BKGS, you can't really use it until you have enough Str to two-hand it. I think he's guarding a coal and maybe a weapon behind him as well, both of which you can use.

If you really want to beat him, prioritize dodging his attacks and try to chip him down slowly with one attack for each of his openings. If you try to get greedy, he can smash you down really quick. He's also fairly vulnerable to backstabbing, though that requires you to be quick during his weapon openings since he also has a backswing attack designed to catch players behind him.

>>167373193
>tfw

Im paranoid about this thats why i never edit the souls, i drop a lifegem and then change them into souls of great hero

>>167374598
>(you)

Split damage, is it worth it?

Trying to figure if I should enchant this Bastard Sword with fire or not.

>>167374693
Thanks man. I don't know why but I don't ever think about backstabbing and when I do, I suck at it. I beat DS1 without ever really doing it. I should probably fix that.

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>internet is fine
>get 20 ping in most games
>have never had a problem with invasions and summoning in the other souls games
>put my sign down in DS3
>can't get through the fog
>ice skating people everywhere
>finally get through the fog
>boss is invisible, untargetable, presumably undamageable
>run around firing heavy soul arrows at where the boss seems to be, unsure if i'm even doing damage
>host finally dies before he can take down bloated HP bort
How do I fix this? I miss coop

>>167374789
depends on game
das1? good IF you have low physical stats because it nerfs scaling
das2? see above, but also it scales with spell stats and synergizes with buff spells so it's good for casters
das3? pretty shitty in general, apparently

>>167374923
Shit, my dude. When you finish DS3, go back to ds1 to see how much you've improved especially when it comes to parry and backstabbing.

>>167374942
dark souls is peer-to-peer
you just got matched with some guy who lives in china and has shit internet

>>167374789
ds3 Unless you want to tumblebuff your way through the game, then no.

>>167375053
Kek I never parry either. I got passably good at it in Bloodborne but never really did get it in DS1. I really should do these things. It was immensely satisfying to do in BB once I figured it out.

>>167374923
The problem with that Black Knight (and all the other ones you fight later) is that he has some kind of absurd damage absorption that makes him take less damage from attacks than most other mobs in the area. Even a backstab will have a pretty big chunk of its damage reduced. Plus you have to remember that you have to aim for his back hitbox and not his actual back, when he twists his body during certain moves you have to do shit like try to backstab his left ankle instead of his actual back (the back hitbox remains stationary during his attacks, so wherever his back was before he starts an attack, that's what you aim for).

On the flip side, if you can knock him down with a backstab or riposte (not recommended to try to parry him, but with good reflexes, and a maybe certain ring you pick up later on, you can guard break him when he blocks), he doesn't have invulnerability frames while getting up so you can get in one or two more attacks then. Just remember to keep your stamina up for a quick roll away, and as before don't get greedy unless you just need one or two more attacks to kill him.

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>>167374923
Shit nigga, all you do in dark souls is backstab, backstab all day and all night nigga they backs are like open season those backs dont even know what hit em nigga shit its like a backstabathon or sumthin.

>>167375084
But it seems to happen all the time, indicating to me that it's something on my end. But what? My internet is fine and every other game is fine.

>>167375427
It was never alive.

>>167375663
N-no

>>167375427
First time at one, was fun.

>>167375427
What do you guys usually host/play fc at?

I've been thinking of doing a KoTH style FC by casting Warmth randomly in dueling area.

>>167376000
Err, I mean SL.

>>167376000

SL 120-130. Get a lot of people under that though.

So playing Dark Souls for the first time in ages and I got the Black Knight Sword.
I literally cant find a reason to use any other weapon. I tried the Astora Straight Sword but every enemy is resistant to magic and it barely does any damage whereas the Black Knight Sword deals 300 dmg 1 handed (+4).
Is there any reason to use a different weapon. I also just got the Silver Knight Str Sword and while its pretty good at almost 175 dmg 1 handed (+4) I cant see why I should move from the Black Knight Sword. The only down side is that hitting R2 is basically suicide and the attacks take a while so I cant attack unless Im certain theres an opening.

>>167376390
The Claymore is better.

>>167376390
ASS is good early on before gaping dragon. Using UGS really isnt that hard, predicting and getting the timing right isnt all that hard once youve swung it around abit.

>Das2
>UGS named Black Knight Ultra Greatsword
>Greatsword named Black Knight Greatsword

>Das3
>UGS named Black Knight Greatsword
>Greatsword named Black Knight Sword

what did they mean by this