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/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1223

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■ Current Update (1/25):「ARKS NEW YEAR CARNIVAL 2017」Part 2
├ http://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-jp-rina-lilika-and-silva-return-for-valentines-event/
└ http://pso2.jp/players/event/newyear2017/webevent/

■ Weekly Boost & Events Schedule
├ http://pso2.jp/players/news/?charid=i_boostevent
├ Google: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=pso2emgquest%40gmail.com
├ Random EQ Hourly Advance Notice (JP): https://twitter.com/pso2_emg_hour
└ Regular Maintenance: Wednesday @ 11:00 ~ 17:00 JST

■ Scratches: http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/
├ Starship Walkure (until 2/8)
├ Sweet Love Passion (until 2/22)
└ [SG] Bright Dark Heroine (until 6/14)

■ Next Update (2/8):「ARKS NEW YEAR CARNIVAL 2017」Part 3
└ https://youtu.be/gdL7Hjpc23M

□ FAQs, Guides (READ THESE BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS)
├ General Information/News: http://bumped.org/psublog/
├ http://pastebin.com/CxBP1mEA
├ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ml9MGiN2Ich09mDtR82N1zn62oa1Mp6x6yzRjHrEf8c/ (Last Updated: 7/25/2015)
├ Basic English Patch: http://psumods.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=206
└ Buy ARKS Cash using PSO2es: http://pastebin.com/raDBtSpa

□ Database/Wiki
├ http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php (JP)
├ http://pso2wiki.net/ (JP)
└ http://pso2.arks-visiphone.com (EN)

□ Simulators
├ Skill Tree: http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php
├ Affix: http://pso2affix.seilent.net/
└ Damage: http://4rt.info/psod/

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lmoaded
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>>167356658
Is the economy that bad on shit2?
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>>167353297
Honestly those probably don't amount to much more than 10 or 15GB total
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>just did one 80 sg pull from this new SG scratch
>got pic related

I am one lucky son of a bitch. now i just need viel cutis
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I hate every single one of you.
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>>167357848
It feels that way.
There's virtually no stock of some '14-15 scratch items and don't get me started on affix fodder
But I don't actually know, and hence the query
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>>167358174
I doubt stuff from back then that hasn't been revived is in stock much on any ship
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>>167358174
Christ man, I'm glad I'm on shit4. That sounds fucking horrible. Even old shit is pretty affordable and that is coming from a penny pincher like me.
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>404
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>>167357928
Post more
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>>167358649
ask politely
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>>167358359
>>167358431
Yesterday I asked for a PC for ディーラードレス茜 on Ship4, someone posted nearly a page of well-priced costumes. Well look at Shit2's market
Keep in mind that this was a late '14 scratch revived again in late '15, but my point stands regardless

It's fucking hard to jew a dead economy
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>>167358806
That was pretty polite by 4chan standards, but please post more
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>>167358931
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>>167358174
Old shit that's actually popular is generally just as much unavailable on 4 as it is on 2. The only noticeable differences are things that basically require you to be in japan or import, like the ice cream or music CD LAs. There is a lot of jewing going on on every ship, as in people buying out stuff that's unavailable now to try and resell it later for a much higher price.
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>>167359195
I know, just fucking with you. I'll post some more later if you're still here
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>>167351968
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Market talk just reminded me of skengs moving to 2 and being BTFO when trying to buy some ugly hairstyle.
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>>167359223
Ship4 has a higher population and more people scratch on there for obvious reason, so scratch items are generally cheaper and more available than on ship2
From what I've read here it's apparently easier to sell gear on ship2 but I have no confirmation for that
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>>167359545
easier to make loadsa money when everyone's thirsty I guess
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>>167359545
Higher population also means more people buying. Everything from AC scratches costs pretty much the same on both ships, except for outliers like old stuff where only a handful of items are left. I play on both ships so I know this for a fact.
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I really like the Valentine EQ music, does anyone know if there's a room disc for it?
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>>167359416
and that reminds me of this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHwHiymSojk
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>>167359223
Here is an example for the noticable difference. left is 2, right is 4. To be fair though, this looks a lot more like people on ship 4 being legally retarded and unercutting for millions, while people on 2 are much smarter and barely undercut.
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Hey guys, im new to PSO2 (just started a few weeks ago) but i dont have many fwiends and i wanna make lots more but i dont now how ;w; How do i become super popular in this game? Do i need to be cuter? if thats the case then heres my char, if you can tell me what im doing wrong and how to improve it id be happy =D
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>>167360835
Yes. チャレンジクエスト
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>>167361432
Thank you!
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I AM A DEMON LORD
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>>167362086
>kfc bucket
>not holding a ball of shit with a purple aura around it

Apply yourself nig
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>>167362607
Fuck you. I put my heart and soul into this piece, what have you done lately?
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>>167362898
ur mum
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>>167362086
Needs random ugly faggy edgelord tattoos.
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>>167363838
You're a slave driver.
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>can't recycle 2016 badges into 2017 badges

O-okay...
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>>167359545
When you could sell off old 12* units and Saikis hadn't been optimized for a year I was always surprised by both how quickly gear would sell and the price. I almost never had to lower the price of something, though the only major gear piece I've sold recently was a 150/9 a few months ago which went for 130m.

The flip side is that affixing fucking sucks on Ship 2, the fodder market takes so long to replenish. I bought out doom break until it was double the price I started at 2 weeks ago and it's still at that price today.
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Are extreme passes given per character, per ship or per account?
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>>167365706
>>167359545
Old 12* weapons************
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Why does Sega hate Gu?
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Why does Sega hate PSO2?
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>>167366361
Kimura does, not sega
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What are the benefits of premium, aside from floor priority and trading in 10-12* stuff for passes? I'm sure there is more.
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>>167369672
secret block that only the hottest erp takes place in according to insider sources
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>>167369791
can confirm
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>>167369910
that's pretty hot
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>>167369791
>>167369910
Welp, there goes my feelings for getting it then.
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>>167369672
You can get a bigger room, dont need a pass for operating your own shop and most importantly you get two extra collection file slots
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>>167370191
Okay, that's pretty nice I'd say.
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>>167370115
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>>167370295
You're very easily influenced, aren't you
Did you try actually reading for yourself what premium does?
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>50mins til mum
>everyone in expert blocks abandons LQ.
Just fuck my gainz up mum
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>>167370601
Of course not, that's why I'm asking here.
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>>167370942
if any EQ approaches, kiss your ability to do anything else that takes a group for efficiency goodbye.
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I only have fun when I play Force, what's wrong with me /pso2g/?
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>>167371918
I only have fun when I play Bouncer, what's wrong with Segac /pso2g/?
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>>167361336
Why do you think market prices stabilise at a certain point? It's because most people aren't willing to pay more for things, jews be damned.
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>>167370369
Tea's face of disgust is super cute.
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>>167365706
I can't even sell a 150/9 for 15m/piece, and there's a guy undercutting me at 12m/piece. I wager this set will guaranteed sell, but it'll be immediately AFTER the boost week ends negating the point of selling it in the first place, as I wont be able to make units in that time
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>login
>too lazy for mom
Guess I'll wait for choco.
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>>167373086
What ship and what atk type is it.
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I miss MPAs not looking like this every eq.
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>check older and new thread
>nothing new to fap to
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>>167376041
Google some pornography you dolt
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>>167374624
Ship 4 and t-atk. There are actually two people undercutting me, but both are missing the rear from theirs. I just raised the prices on them as a whole, moreso the rear, since the other 2 guys are both selling only arm/leg with the same affixes, and I don't want to meet the same fate of "2 of 3 piece set rendering it unusable if it doesn't all sell to the same guy".
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>>167376083
I got you, friend.
>>>/d/
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>>167376041
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>>167376083
>fapping to porn instead of 3d anime elves
revolting
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>>167376223
>implying you can't find pornography of 3D anime elves elsewhere
redolting, dolt
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>>167376115
Too bad, t-atk is what I needed but not on ship 4. You wouldn't believe how many times I've put up a set only for someone to buy just 1-2 pieces and break it up.
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>>167376553
If you transferred to 4, there are 2 other people selling arm/leg cheaper anyway (and the other sub 20 rear is 17.8m) and given how long my stuff has been up at that price it isn't probable that they'll sell at this point.

Alternatively, if you DID plan to transfer to 4 for a week or so and wanted a guaranteed price to buy them at of 45m+tax, I'd put them aside for you, but that seems even more unlikely.
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How do we buy from pso2es? I've been trying but keep getting errors.
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>>167361412
The best way to be cute is to not be deliberate about it, so knock off the faggy emoticon shit and babytalk. The cutest people usually don't talk like sluts or three-year-olds or utter memesters, just don't try to put on a facade and you'll be cute, especially with a character like that.

And yeah your character's pretty damn cute, though the outfit is really boring, imo.
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>>167379120
it's a copypasta
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>>167378063
What's the issue you're having? Charging AC through es is the same as any google play transaction.
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>tfw you suck dick as bo on stage 9 of solo XQ 2 and you keep jobbing to hagito

Fuck this green ship otaku faggot

>inb4 bo
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>>167379493
>bo
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>>167379474
My card keeps getting declined for some reason, I have money on it so.. I don't know whats up with it.
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>>167379548
well shit, i just wanted a different color class ring to wear instead of this faggy green Br ring
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>>167379623
It goes through google play but it's still considered an international transaction (Their payment center is in the UK I think?) and it's billed in JPY so maybe whoever provides your card is the one declining it.
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>>167379863
Huh, maybe. I'll try calling them in the morning I guess. I had no problems a long time ago when buying before, so don't know what's up now. Hell, even the paypal option didn't work.
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>>167379863
Yeah, holy shit just checked my balance info and fuckers tried pulling 8 bucks for some reason?
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>>167359195
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Does class bonus for drops apply to both main class and subclass or just main class?
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>>167380959
Just the main class, as far as I know.
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>>167376149
Lottie is super cute. She is a better kouhai than Io.
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>>167382705
I thought I remembered reading about that but every 13* I've gotten in the past month has been for my sub class so I wasn't sure any more.
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>>167379493
Why aren't you saving your PBF for the green fuck?
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Is there a boss more obnoxious than deadleon? Trying to fight him in an MPA where he's teleporting and jumping all over the room is miserable.
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>>167384026
Ignite Parry Guilty Break Rising Edge
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>>167383674
I agree.
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>>167384026
He's alright
I'd kill myself if I was playing FO didn't have a decent talis with talis fast throw.
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>>167383775
Because i tried to go the ponthi route and made an attempt of brute forcing stage 9 with JBs. since people kept telling me not to bother with clearing the objective on stage 8
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>>167384026
deadlion, the goddamned robocats, diabo... are all fucking obnoxious with how much they whip around, MPA or not.
>which is obviously why kimura wants you to solo shit like that, because you don't hate dealing with their hyperactive asses enough in a group


and of course deadlion's got the nonsensical head hitbox that sucks up hits aimed for his shield half the time because fuck you.
as someone with monhun experience I'm not at all unaccustomed to partsbreak drops, but holy fucking shit if you're going to do that you don't make it so that the boss is more likely to die than have parts break.
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>>167384410
>using talis against something that doesn't hold still much
you'd want to kill yourself even more if you tried that shit.

>fasthrow your talis and start charging
>he's on the other side of the room already
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>>167384650
Ragrants charges in like 0.3s senpai.
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>>167384026
Remember back in the day, when we thought that Snow Banther/Banshee was a fast boss? Back when you could tell what was actually going on on the screen? What happened to those days.
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>>167384746
>Go up to him in eq
>Bright lights everywhere from all the mobs, ESPECIALLY the fucking archers, and particle effects
>Dead
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>>167384746
To be fair, the player characters were slower at that time
Speaking of banthers, I think leone would be more obnoxious than drago if he had actual hp and you couldn't stunlock him so easily
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>>167384549
The other bosses are no problem really, especially solo. Deadleon wouldn't be that bad either, if he didn't constantly spam his fucking stun.
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>>167384549
>Boss more likely to die than have parts break
Wew looks like Sega took some notes from Idea Factory and Compile Heart
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>>167384650
This is why I just go Fo/Br for choco and just scum him and the gruzoras twins with Ilbarta.

>>167384746
What, you can't see what's going on with a massive boss that whips around constantly surrounded by charging dragons and aoe arrows?
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>>167385161
Just listen for attacks (^:
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>train ghidoran day boss theme
>mfw it hits 30% hp
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>>167384026
>deadleon
>teleporting
Eh? Maybe if you're lagging severely
He's not very mobile when I fight him
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>lilith gets xion slutwear for only 80 SG
>i spend 4000 SGs and get nothing but loser and double shit

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>167387080
Hard to not have occasional teleports when you live on the opposite side of the planet from the server.
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>>167387276
it was my first roll too and i dont even have any female characters
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>>167387463
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>167385513
I forgot this game even had bgm, not that I'll ever turn it up again.
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>>167380896
how much for fug
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>>167387707
I don't do that stuff
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>>167387610
>I forgot this game even had bgm
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>>167380896
Post more
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>>167388528
last
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>>167388643
thanks
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>>167385513
Music reaction time?

https://youtu.be/IBD-XoVjIFQ
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>>167388834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCRvwLKb8Es
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>>167389682
DELETE THIS
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>>167387949
Can't blame him, EP4 soundtrack is mostly all kind of awful
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>>167390198
Mother isn't bad at least. Pretty bad considering just the history of pso2's music alone let alone the composers working on it.
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>>167390198
Not really, unless you just don't like vocal songs
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>>167388834
man, I remember when this game was fucking great
good times
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>>167390336
My main quirk is what plays in the story. Mother phase 1 piano is alright, but the guitar is just so fucking awful. The 2nd phase is unremarkable at best. Ult Amdu bgm was also mediocre as fuck.
And yes, I feel like vocals ruin 90% of the songs here, case in point: moon base, the vocals there are awful, while the tune itself is pretty good.
Tokyo Day >>>>>> Tokyo Night
Vegas off-vocal night > vocal day > vocal night > off-vocal day
I'm known for having shit taste, so whatever.
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>>167389682
Please don't let this be the Easter music.
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>>167391294
make it E.G.G.M.A.N. again.
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>>167392191
E.G.G.M.A.N. is one of the only songs that makes as many repeat appearances as it does, I hope they keep it for tradition.
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>>167357328
>that pic

Nooooooooooooo
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>>167390198
False.
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>>167393000
They used mostly the same songs for the other seasonal EQs up until last year

Wild Easter itself wasn't added to the seasonal EQ rotation until near the end of Episode 2
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>The look of sadness on Emperappy's face when he goes for a hug and doesn't grab anyone
I can't deal with this, why does Sega make us hurt him.
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>>167394302
I feel bad that you have to beat them up to make the barrier go down
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>>167390198
the music has been the only thing in ep4 that's actually been consistently decent to good
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>>167396425
WE ARE BORDERLESSSSSSS
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Buying gf
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Are VHAQs still the way to go for leveling past 40?
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>>167398642
Yes
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>>167398642
Right now you can run 4man SH or XH Limited Quest for nearly 2.8m xp an hour if you don't afk
and you get free shit at the end and shiny badges
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>>167398664
Welp.
>>167398864
Shit, really? Do you happen to know which floors or is just any of the SH/XH floors? Would it also work for VH for classes that can't enter the above?
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>>167398864
>4 man
Not him but I don't even have 4 people on my list at the same time under almost any circumstances, and those that are generally don't care to do anything.
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>>167398979
He said LQ, not XQ.
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>>167398979
You read him wrong, it's not XQs. It's just the current Limited Quest.

>>167398864
>2.8m an hour
>Only 15 hours to do a single class' SPCOs
So easy, why is anyone annoyed with the requirements??
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>>167399037
>>167399087
Fuck, sorry. Eyes being weird. Still, can't enter the LQ till 50 for SH.
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>>167398979
I just run on whatever Expert block has at least 2 MPAs up, but pub blocks are bound to have VH, SH and XH parties you can leech off

>>167398984
>Conscript 1 friend, or if you're feeling daring, just place the party-maker
>???
>profit

>>167399087
15 hours sounds quite daunting for most people
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>>167399087
>15 hours of grinding a boring ass quest as a class you don't like playing, and having to find 3 other people willing to do it with you for that duration
If you can find me 3 people to do it with for that duration, I will.
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>>167399186
Yeah, just found a group for VH pretty easy. Thanks for the information!
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>>167399193
>>167399186
I was being facetious, I think the grind is retarded. I only play two classes for the most part but use everything else except Su and Bo as a subclass so I have 200m exp to grind all of a sudden.
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>>167390938
Sounds like SOMEONE doesn't have a secret on this blue planet to keep in mind!
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>>167396208
because he's an obese piece of shit
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>>167357328
>>167396208
>forced to harm rappies to progress
Boycott Sega products
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how do i play ranger/hunter in TD?

alternatively, should i play force/techer if ive got like 3200 t atk? which is more useful?
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>>167401658
In order of priority:
WB big things
Satcan Exodas (Exodas are big things)
Kill pl0n
Gravbomb and lawnchair little things
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>>167401658
You spawncamp certain spawns as rahu, whether with launcher or rifle depends on what it is.
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>>167361412
If you're on Ship 2 then head on over to Block 1 and go find the English players. They're generally just idling around near the quest board just chatting about shit. Made friends and became a Team Manager in about 20 minutes because I just hung around them and got chatting.
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page 10 boys
maybe... maybe we are dead....
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>>167406373
I'm not dead, I just don't care about this thread.
I also hate all of you.
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>>167406414
We hate you too anon, we hate you too.
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>>167406373
>Log in
>maybe I should do Choco... I need kills for my sheets and stuff...
>meh I don't feel like playing at all
>alt+f4 at :57
Well time to play something else
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>Only two people come right with me
>No one from right ever fucking comes to help despite finishing way before us
God damn it i hate this EQ
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>>167408392
>me and 2 people go right
>2 others from left run right noticing this
>still clear faster than left and have to wait 30 secs
epic
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>tfw you'll never meet a yandere male (female) through PSO2

fuuuuuck redditors can have legit females stalk them in this game but it wont happen to me. How do i attract yanderes in this shit game?
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QUICK
WASTE 140 MEDALS TRYING TO GET ANETTE Y/N
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>>167408392
>>167409019
>go right or left as the split dictates
>still have no idea how to do right fast as fo, and left has shit constantly escaping my zondeels
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>>167409403
No
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>>167409403
DO YOU HAVE A C TYPE CHIP Y/N
Annette is a chip I wasted all my medals trying to get. She's basically a cheaper yami that doesn't proc panic.
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Holy shit the box duvals 13* fists are bad, why even taunt people with a rare but shit weapon?
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>>167409535
I have the one that does mirage and mirage damage
But I tried friend anette and it seemed way stronger
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>>167409601
She's a yamigarasu that's fire element, only procs burn, and is 26 cost. Same power as yami.
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>>167409647
Does burn work on everything?
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>>167409683
It doesn't work on Burn draal and ringada, so I recall reading. Damn near nothing works on ringa though as far as status goes because it has fucking absurd status resist aynway, so it doesn't even matter.
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>nothing but junk
mobage was a mistake
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>>167410052
if you REALLY want it just feed in that credit card until you get it.
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>>167410052
Mobile games are the worst.
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anyone for erp?
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>there are people who don't play both F/GO and PSO2
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>>167410217
nobody actually does this right?
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>>167410846
They do, that's the entire point of gacha, people WILL feed it money until they get what they want.
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WHERE IS CLOSET?
I DON'T DO TACOS IN MONTHS
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>>167410835
I consider the Fate series to be hot garbage. Even when it wasn't popular among normalfags I could tell only people with shit taste liked it. Making a phone game based on the series doesn't surprise me at all.
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>>167390938
at least you admit to having shit taste.
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>solo pd will have 25% of regular pd's hp pool
rip.
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>>167411445
Nah bear is right on this pso2 music is hot garbage
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>>167390938
>tokyo day>tokyo night
this is correct but you forgot to mention that both of them are atrocious out of combat
>>167413486
still alive senpai?
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>>167413486
No one cares Skele-tan, go back to pretending to be dead.
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>>167413615
>>167413706
moshi moshi! let it die desu!

Just accept the one you call skele-tan is no more.
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>>167413486
Is there a release of the let it die soundtrack yet
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>>167413919
As far as I know on a official release of the ost no, not yet.
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>>167413801
You can never kill who you are. No matter how hard you try to say or change yourself you're just a minor revision of who you once were.
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>>167410835
Nasus work is garbage.
Take a historical figure or SOMEONE ELSES fictional character and genderbend it into a waifu, done.
It's amazing that people still give this fuck shekels for 'his ideas'.
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Someone remind me how brave/wise stance works on PD.
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>>167414731
>Take whatever and turn it into a waifu
mobage design 101
perma-virgins otakuneets love it
just like PSO2
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>>167417937
nice mpa oh
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>>167417937
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>>167418006
nice no mpa or players shit 2 lmao
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>>167417937
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>SU/GU single carrying a mpa full of brkatana faggots
I wish I have parser on, holy shit.
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>>167418204
omigoto oh-chin
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>>167418248
>shitters think katanas on mother are acceptable
Might as well just use an axeon.
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>>167418267
Omigoto indeed.
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>still no *12 leg unit drop
I cant move on to make a *12 unit set without a leg unit REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>167418492
Literally all my experience from b17-19 is sub-10 minute but with at least 3brkatana faggots.
Fucking leechers.
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>>167418248
>>167418726
if only they all used bow, they might not be a waste of a slot
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>>167418934
>kayleth that low

wasnt he supposed to be good?
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>>167418934
>28,593
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>>167419102
>pso2g doesn't know how zanverse works
Can't make this shit up.
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>>167419102
this is what happens when fags check the "separate zanverse damage"
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>>167419102
hello, new friend
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>>167418934
Why is Kayleth so low, I expected better from a guy that did sekrit mpa memes
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>>167417937
>>167418002
>>167418049
>>167418204

>day fucking 45
>people are still playing the same stale repetitive EASY unrewarding content over and over again instead of moving on to quality video games like overwatch ffxiv and dota 2
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>>167420017
>ASSFAGGOTS
>quality
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>>167420125
>responding to bait
quality post m8
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>>167420194
>quality post m8
just like yours
just like this one
just like this entire fucking thread
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>>167410835
I love fate/TYPE-MOON but hate that game

fuckin' sad
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>>167418934
What do Techers do in between Zanverses?
It lasts like 6 seconds, do they still just spam it overlapping them?
Shouldn't they whack shit?
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>>167420017
>quality video games like overwatch ffxiv
Shitposter-kun, you need to work on your bait. I am laughing my ass off at your life right now.
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>>167420360
>conveniently forgets to mention doturd
back to the gulag
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>>167418934
>there are people that lost to 40columns

smfh....
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>>167420435
>kayleth lost to 40columns
This is beyond lilith-tier at this point
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>>167420017
this is sad desu...
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>>167419649
>not playing superior signleplayer games
>>167419649
Can't really think about good way to do dps when we get very fast run.
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>>167420017
dota2 stopped being good after gaben removed the option to sell the stuff you get from just playing
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>>167420991
FIX YOUR ENGLISH YOU VODKA NIGGER
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>>167421194
I got no reasons to do it
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>>167420414
>>167421001
I would've included this had I know this, my apologies. I was under the impression Dota2 was a decent game.
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>>167421425
Fix your english so you can pleasure me with that tight anus until I cause it to prolapse.
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>>167421570
That's some disgusting fetish
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Finally upgraded my 30 ele skull sorcerer to a 60 ele +32 astra rifle

feels good friends.
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>None of the effort symbol rings have a white glow

this is depressing
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>>167420017
>over watch
>quality
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>>167423583
Good job anon. I'm in the process of sidegrading my units because I can't be bothered to stop dying like a scrub to shit I can't see nor gitgud.
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How am I supposed to advance the 1-3 matter board when the weapon (the alva slayer) they require doesn't drop anymore?
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>>167425823
you kill the target enemy and get a drop of it anyway?
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>>167425985
Wait, it's still in the malmoth droptable just for the sake of the matterboard? Even if it's an old-type weapon?
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>>167426597
Just look at many of the collect files to see things that aren't in any drop tables that drop. Collect files actually took the 'kill this many until target item drops' thing from the matterboard.
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Does anyone have a good support TE build?
I just bought a new tree for it but am not really sure what to build. Is FI sub the way to go or should you do something like BO?

http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?11eAbxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIo0jdodBIb000000000doInfxAIkdnfJkfHnJf200000jdoib0000000fdo0000000Io00000000iodAi2rBGAGFdBsQjGAcAqA000007bIo0000000jdoIb0000000lo000000j
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>>167423727
>None of the effort rings have unique special effects

This is depressing
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>>167426841
I see...welp, back to malmoth slaughtering.
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>>167427174
That camo is one of my biggest regrets, sounds like garbage
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>>167423727
Which colours are there even?
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>>167428014
Red, purple, Dark blue, light blue, gold/yellow, Orange, Dark green, YellowGreen. Its basically the colors of the class icons
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How do I get people to visit my room and drop nice messages on my BBS?
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How do I get people to be my friends and say nice things to me?
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>>167428882
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>>167428882
Make cute/sexy character and post her here
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>>167427253
well they flash their respective class symbols every few seconds
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guys
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>>167429734
They could've had some cool rings that do different things but no.
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>>167430593
Yeah, those are called the regular rings
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>>167430641
No one but FI is going to use those rings as there are better choices for other classes. It's fucking garbage.
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>>167430750
If they made it actually good no one would use anything else, so it's fine, just a visual gimmick
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>Xie Japanese second pot percentage is 20% damage, 40% damage reduction
>Tact's second pot is just 20% all around

>The 4-man UQ has two different balances, 1-2 and 3-4 players. So 1-2 enemies will be weaker, and 3-4 will be full strength enemies, they consider the EXP to be fairly good.

>Revolucio sheets are getting revived in late March with a year long availability, changed requirements to make it easier to obtained. Other Sheets will be returning in the future as well.

>They are considering on slightly altering the conditions to making a +35 weapon.

>There's no Class boost benefits to hitting level 80

>Astra is stronger than union, but union is more balanced than Astra (Probably related to the pot)

>Drop table for PD is the same but with added union boosters, 1st clear title gives you 4 boosters.

>They are waiting for a time to introduce if they implement this but there's a 'chance' there will be an NT change for those with a +10 Level 3 Pot OT weapon.

>In the future 80/80 will be a lock requirement for quests.

>25% of the PSO2 player base have completed the requirements level 80

>PD will have a 70-80% health reduction, the attacks are also weaker.

>20 minute time limit, 12 minutes for S Rank
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>>167434569
too little too late
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>>167427174
You want TeBo for support, not Fi. Fi is for wand smacking memes
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>>167435672
anon please don't do that
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>>167434569
>Revolucio sheets are getting revived
Just make them permanent for fucks sake. Do the same for Ray.
>Astra is stronger than union
Into the trash.
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>>167434569
>25% of the PSO2 player base have completed the requirements

IT'S ALREADY +34 OKAY
STOP BUSTING MY BALLS
IT'S NOT MY FUCKING FAULT THIS FUCKING SHIT WON'T DROP AGAIN
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>>167434569
>>167437450
>25% of the PSO2 player base have completed the requirements
sasuga pso2g, step up NOOBS
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>tfw trying to do anything on ship 4 at this time
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whats the name of the room item thats just a big wall?
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>>167438051
大壁
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>>167438051
トランプ
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>>167435979
>Just make them permanent for fucks sake. Do the same for Ray.
this.
rather, all non-seasonal CFs should be permanent. fuck kimura's desire to force people into content at the timing of his leisure.

>>167434569
>>Xie Japanese second pot percentage is 20% damage, 40% damage reduction
>>Tact's is just 20% all around
so basically anyone who actually needs union is being told "fuck you, pull fodder out of your ass and spam for badges or fuck off". lovely.

>>PD will have a 70-80% health reduction, the attacks are also weaker.
but how much weaker. unless those weapons are going to just be an ultra crutch, I'm left suspicious

>20 minute time limit, 12 minutes for S Rank
especially with this faggotry. this is typical "FUCK YOU, YOU FREAKISH LONERS. HOW DARE YOU WANT TO DO ANYTHING YOURSELVES" shit.
>lol you think you're so awesome now do it in less time than we allow to groups and without the massive buffs we give groups.
neverminding that it's not terribly common anymore to NEED all that time, the simple fact of it is insulting.

>>They are considering on slightly altering the conditions to making a +35 weapon.
with kimura around I'm paranoid that will not be terribly great

>>They are waiting for a time to introduce if they implement this but there's a 'chance' there will be an NT change for those with a +10 Level 3 Pot OT weapon.
translation: after announcing the whole "need +35ed 13* per class" thing with level 80 and the upcoming change to require having done it at least once for """"expert"""" block access, austerefags barraged sega with their rage and kimura is fighting to prevent having some consideration for people who put up with his previous gigantic grindwall. JUST FUCKING FIRE HIM, SEGA.
>>In the future 80/80 will be a lock requirement for quests.
FUCKING CALLED IT. where are all the fags trying to imply that pushing for 80 would be optional now? kimura doesn't allow for "optional".
RIP newfags who still have to do their classcube shit.
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>>167434569
>Astra is stronger than union, but union is more balanced than Astra (Probably related to the pot)
nothing beats 40% pp regen on normals and combined with natural pp regen
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Don't forget to do your dailies, anon-kun!
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>>167438610
>>167434569
and RE: the time limit, mind that this is with considering double making you chase it all over the fucking place and PD's love of ceasing to be something you can hit across two thirds of the fight.

>>The 4-man UQ has two different balances, 1-2 and 3-4 players. So 1-2 enemies will be weaker, and 3-4 will be full strength enemies, they consider the EXP to be fairly good.
so basically it has "imblanced" and "really fucking imbalanced". good to know. and of course with sega's idea of good pay it won't be worth the trouble.

>>Astra is stronger than union, but union is more balanced than Astra (Probably related to the pot)
moot in the case of units; either they're better or not, but it makes little difference because NEITHER SET WILL FUCKING DROP, FUCK YOU KIMURA DIE IN A FIRE.
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>That'd make approximately 5M for Double and 8M for PD I think for solo EQ since it's 25% of Double's original HP (which is 21M) and 20% for PD (originally at 41M) Math is not my forte though, and we don't have the exact percentages though, but I think it should be around that.

>having to slog through 13m HP alone in less than 12 minutes
>with double bouncing all over the place and PD dicking around in the background
assuming the fag I'm quoting isn't flat out wrong, sega's not setting the bar too far into impossibility for people who don't cheat and actually need union shit, are they. seriously, just throw kimura off a fucking bridge already.
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>>167438982
dont tell me what to do
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>>167438610
>especially with this faggotry. this is typical "FUCK YOU, YOU FREAKISH LONERS. HOW DARE YOU WANT TO DO ANYTHING YOURSELVES" shit.
You can only do it yourself, what are you talking about?
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>>167439794
>13m HP
I can do that with full-LB FI, but that's ultra fucking ridiculous.
Not worth the rewards, Shitmura.
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>>167438610
People have already done the actual PD in less than 20 minutes, Su/Gu can even do it in less than 12 so the time limit should not be a concern if it has a quarter of its hp
Damage shouldn't be a concern either if it's nerfed, would just have to watch out for some attacks like the rush or the claw grab
And if you really can't handle it, you can just use one of the Xie weapons, spend some badges on it or maybe you would have gotten one as a drop if you ran the LQ, you would have to be trying to die with a 40% damage reduction
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>>167439204
As for this, the enemies in the 4-man lq are level 75, surely you've seen how fast anga dies in the lq? If they're going to be nerfed even further for 1-2 players it should be reasonable
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>>167439794
>slog through 13m HP alone in less than 12 minutes
That's easy as fuck to do unless you're running some meme build, in which case you deserve to fail.
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>>167438610
>>167439794
>>167440249
>>167441674
>tfw i can just Su/Gu the shit
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH STAY FREE /pso2g/
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>people are actually crying at having to deal 19k dps
holy shit
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>>167439794
I look forward to having a good run ruined by PD's grab attack which always kills me at full HP
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>>167445150
You can actually escape from that attack so get an analog stick ready
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Am I supposed to quit now? I have never grinded an NT weapon except for bingo
Will I be locked out of blocks despite having affixed austeres and units?
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>>167445462
Just 35 something then? It costs like nothing if you actually play and you can use it for the factor afterwards if you don't want to use it
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>>167439794
>with double bouncing all over the place
His balls are gonna have basically no hp. He'll barely be able to move at all.
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>>167445150
>I look forward to having a good run ruined by PD's grab attack which always kills me at full HP
Did you miss the part of it having reduced damage? Also break the claw before it does that attack, it makes the grab do less than half of its normal damage
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>>167445462
>Will I be locked out of blocks despite having affixed austeres and units?
You were okay with the grind for austere weapons and units, but now a significantly easier grind is quit the game-worthy?
>>
Is the tweaker broke?
>>
>affix HP
>still can't beat EQ without dying
>unironically afraid of solo EQ
unable to fabricate these
>>
That's actually a fairly high DPS requirement, considering you'll have no wb, no Te buffs and possibly no team attack buff if it happens to be down. Easy for most classes, but I can see ranger mains for instance struggling with this, unless they decide to make it regular wb.
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>>167448924
>I can see ranger mains for instance struggling with this, unless they decide to make it regular wb.
Nah, as long as they actually know how to play the class
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>>167448536
>pso2g is bad
what else is new

>>167448924
>That's actually a fairly high DPS requirement
top lmao
>>
whats your average shitter dps in pd 12 man?
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>>167449085
lilith is worse than pso2g though you guys are average tier desu
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>>167449018
>>167449085
I'm talking about the requirement for getting S rank. Even in high ranking PD MPAs it's not rare for people to have about 24k-ish dps, and that's with Te buff and wb. With those two gone they'd fail the 19.4k required for S rank.
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>>167449018
>as long as they know how to play the class
knowing how the play the class is why one would see problems, because you can't fucking stand still and aim in PD most of the time due to the projectile spam, retard.

>>167449085
>laughing so hard at reality
drink your domestos.

>>167447171
>millions of HP total
>no HP
nigger what.

>>167445246
no, you can't. I've tried. repeatedly.

>>167440249
>groups and broken niche builds that still only work right with more than one person have done this super fast so soloing it should be fine!
you really are retarded.

>>167441674
it's not easy and doesn't take a meme build for it to be a problem, shitlord. pull your head out of the memes for five seconds and actually play the game instead of ERPing in redrum.

>>167439943
learn to read.
>here's some solo content
>and we upped the difficulty as compared to the group version of the same content, have "fun". you pieces of shit.

>>167440370
the LQ anga's HP is massively nerfed compared to usual encounters... and is still mostly a joke -for a group-. your comparison is invalid.

>>167442850
>dealing 19k DPS
sorry faggot, your results most likely derived from either playing like you have no life or flat out cheating aren't grounds for much of anything


>>167445462
of course you will. because kimura doesn't care about austere anymore, it's not his newest grindwall. only the most recent idea to force players to dance to his tune counts.
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>>167449118
to add whats the average Fo's dps during that fight and/or mother
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>>167449942
>that guy who thinks this is a forum
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>>167449942
>millions of HP total
>no HP
>nigger what.
The balls are going to have only like 250k or something. They already have barely 800k-1m on the normal version.
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>>167449942
>no, you can't. I've tried. repeatedly.
yes you can, fucking try harder.
>groups and broken niche builds
99% of the solos aren't niche builds.
>and we upped the difficulty as compared to the group version
>nerfed damage and 80% lower hp
It's literally easier, what the fuck are you smoking

I think it's time for you to stop playing this game, my man.
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>>167449942
Ah, yes, nobody has ever beaten PD solo as a ranger, nor does RA pull any damage on PD in MPAs, I forgot. Also, if you've ever tried, there is less going on with PD when you're solo as opposed to 12 players
>no, you can't. I've tried. repeatedly.
Well, you have no idea what you're talking about in general it seems
>groups and broken niche builds that still only work right with more than one person have done this super fast so soloing it should be fine!
No, actually I meant solo, SuGu solo does it in like 7 minutes, Fo and Bo can beat it in under 20 minutes, pretty sure some others can too
>the LQ anga's HP is massively nerfed compared to usual encounters... and is still mostly a joke -for a group-. your comparison is invalid.
No, it's just level 75 instead of 80, and it's not supposed to be a joke for a single party or single player, just reasonable
People can already solo the regular lv80 anga just fine, let alone a nerfed level 75 one

Not sure what you're even whining about, do you just want this quest to be even more of a joke than it's shaping up to be?
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>>167450628
>no techer buffs
>no wb
>limited mates
>failed if you die once
>easier
>>
What do you guys do with all the shitty 12* weapons you get from collect files and EQs? They don't seem to sell to quickly in the player shops. Any ideas?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOQPQS588uM

>20 minutes they said

lmao
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Wait, so is it confirmed that the solo EQ will have the Double part as well?
If yes that's fucking terrible, Double is easily the worst fight in the game.
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>>167451184
yes, unfortunately. Double ruins the entire EQ alone
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>>167450749
Techer buffs were never necessary for any content in this game.
WB is jammed and doesn't contribute as much, unless you're Ra / Ra sub
There are many other ways to heal outside of mates.
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>>167451670
Not that guy, but not having both of these is actually pretty relevant. For an S rank you'll need to do consistent 19-20k DPS over the whole fight. That's something a lot of people struggle to do even with both these buffs.
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Are the Union weapons going to be better than Astra and Gix?
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>>167451975
The more drawn out the fight, and the more dps the other players are doing, the less dps you'll be doing
Looking at dps from a group situation is not an accurate measure
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>>167451975
Also, it doesn't matter if people struggle with it, they'll just have to actually make an effort for once instead of being carried because people can do that dps a few times over
If you can handle the content, then good for you, if you can't then get good or get better gear or something, not sure why people are whining
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>>167452291
That's not how DPS works at all. Unless people are doing so much damage that exposed weakpoints disappear near instantly (mother being a good example), having people there killing shit faster actually increases your DPS compared to how it would be solo.
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>>167452271
no, they already confirmed that Union will have a lower base power than astra and gix, but a more balanced potential.
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>>167452271
if union ends up keeping the same potential as ray, then it'll have some advantages here and there depending on weapon type.
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>>167450908
put emper ermbrace into them to make them 13* fodder
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>>167452675
The potential name of union is the same as ray but with 2 kanji tacked onto the end. It'll probably be the same but slightly better.
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>>167452626
Barely lower, sword would be 1640 vs astra's 1657
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>>167452417
People whining are obviously just shitters, I'm just positively surprised that the S rank isn't basically guaranteed if you just aren't awful. When I heard they were gonna reduce the HP by 75% I was worried that would be way too much reduction, but it seems fine to me now. The only problem is that Su/Gu will basically 3 shot it, but that's not really something you can balance around without ruining it for everyone else.
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>>167453290
>mfw the only people from this general who play Su/Gu is Socks and lilith
>everyone else here either sucks ass or from the discord that complains that person "x" isn't on
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>>167430476
>7 slot, not even showing all affixes
worthless.
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>>167434569
Xie Japanese weapons are the ones in weapon badge store hitting with the store update next maint right?
Are Revolucio weps actually worth anything anymore?
>Astra is stronger than union
Weapons, potential and units or just weapons?
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>>167438610
>but how much weaker. unless those weapons are going to just be an ultra crutch, I'm left suspicious
They're an ultra crutch, it was stated it'll do about 75% of the damage normal PD does.
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>>167434569
I like how thee guy who originally posted this on pso-w casually ignoreed that kimura also said they're considering adding an item that would have ''difficult to obtain conditions, but market tradeable' that can forcibly increase a weapons max grind cap by +1.
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>>167457478
Revolutio definitely are not worth the effort. It's funny how they said that they're bringing Revolutio back to help people who can't get 13*s which is completely ass backwards.
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>>167459592
It makes a ton of sense, actually. You can get revo while still in SH. As it is right now when you first get to XH you are unable to get a 13* without basically leeching XH MPAs. This way you can get one that's already fairly decent before ever stepping foot into an XH quest.

Basically, it isn't being brought back for you or anyone else who has been playing the game for a long time. It's for new players.
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Why is this game such a bitch to download?
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Does Gu just not do damage or something? I can't ever feel like damage is being done, cause everything dies either too quickly or they are sponges anyways and everyone else is doing more.
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>people rush to get more runs
>but what fucking more runs are you going to get when it's (hour):31 when the start teleporter kicks over, anyway?

it seems stupid and pointless to be in a hurry when there's literally nothing to hurry for.
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>>167460517
because you dont know japanese.
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>>167450628
Can you do it with a keyboard? Because if it requires rotation to get out of it's damn near fucking impossible on a keyboard.
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>>167460923
when I played gu/hu I gave decent damage with the physical skills like approach,stab and A shooting. With Fo I don't feel like I do damage either with ragrants but it adds up i guess I hit for like 10k and double that on weakpoints.
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>>167461036
I am trying to download the ENG client and it won't even let me do that
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>>167461513
>eng client
No such thing
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>>167461330
Yeah, it's pretty much impossible on keyboard
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>>167461863
I've done it like once or twice and I've escaped Anga's grab too but yeah it's quite hard to pull off regularly on a keyboard
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>>167461513
from arks layer?

you didnt do something silly and downloaded the SEA client did you?
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What are some relatively cheap thigh highs?
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Are these from es?
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>>167465348
yes
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quick /pso2g/ what color should i paint my astra weapon
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>>167465481
whatever matches your characters color scheme.
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>>167454720
>implying those two don't suck ass too
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Is the story patch dead?
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>>167465481
class icon colour.
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>>167454720
mfw ur a fgt
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tfw you bl anyone with no class badge/ring
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>>167447483
>this newly demanded grind is easier than the one you already did
>so you shouldn't mind being told that the comically large grind you put yourself through isn't good enough
>entirely because said grind's reward doesn't adhere to the new standard, despite the reward being on par with more recent equipment


gee anon, I can't possibly see why someone might be angry.

>you already did this huge grind, so why not grind som moar?!
the issue with this really shouldn't need to be explained, given the context.
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>>167467681
>the comically large grind you put yourself through
*over a year ago

That's the important part. This shit is over a year old and until then you needed nothing else. Bitching that you need something new so long after austere came out is dumb as fuck.
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>>167467681
moreover,
>having to waste resources on something you're never, ever going to use
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>>167468594
>waste resources
Oh no, like 8 lambda grinders and some emper fodder, whatever will you do
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>>167468594
>i will never want the current best affix in the game
come on now
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>>167451184
>Double is easily the worst fight in the game.
That's not Mother.
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What does leveling up Anti do?
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>>167469193
increase tick rate
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>>167468329
Austere is still one of the best weapons in the game though? It's literally less than 1% weaker than Astra. If there's no reason to upgrade, why should you do it?
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>>167469784
gix
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>>167470006
A shit.
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I'm curious what metric they went by if they say 25% of players fulfilled the level 80 requirements. If that doesn't count subclasses then that's actually insanely low. I have hundreds of cubes on a single class but I still have a few hundred million exp to do for subclasses.
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>>167468967
>implying mom is worse than double
who gave you the brain damage anon
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>>167450908
>>167452745
Do not put emper embrace on Nox. Emper Embrace is just a static +90 exp, it's a waste to spend the money to put it on a Nox.
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>>167469784
Because you very obviously have to for progression.
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>>167470861

Using 12* fodders save you on Lambda Grinders tho
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People are autistic about saving lambda grinders.
What are they actually saving them for?
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>>167470951
Just saying it's retarded.
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>>167471036
Using 12* fodders is fine but the cost of adding abilities to a weapon is based on rarity. You're throwing away money by putting emper on 12*.
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>>167471168
Probably rings, yknow the things that take a shitton of grinders?

>>167471303
Not really
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>>167471168

rings cost at least 30 lambdas to +20. although you can regain that with weekly zieg on 3 chars
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>>167469784
Astra is way fucking easier to get the 40% more pp regen on normal atks blows austere and orbit both out the water.
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>>167472108
>the 40% more pp regen on normal atks blows austere and orbit both out the water
lol what

If you're using orbit for attack pp regen for some reason, sure.
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>>167470293
Either its
a) They searched for people who completed ALL the sp co
b) Their search engine includes inactive accounts
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>>167470951
It's way more annoying to need SPCOs done imo. You could do whatever you want to grind austere, now after all that you're being told to farm like 200m~ exp for no fucking reason other than to give Kimura a boner for how much he hates the players.

Before you say "If you didn't care about the SPCOs before, why would you now," it's a big difference between having 3 extra points and 3 + 5 from level cap. Possibilities that didn't exist before are possible with level 80 SP.
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>>167470293
>>167472269
You both seem to be forgetting the +35 req, which significantly less people have met from the looks of it.
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>>167472108
I'm talking about people who already have Austeres done and affixed and have had them for a year with no substantial upgrade in sight.
Also, 40% pp regen on hit is so fucking good on talis and rod, right?
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>>167471303

You can actually resell the 12 weapon at +30 for around 4M. In the future buying 12 will not require pass anymore so demand will increase.

12 +0 to +30 = 4600 EXP

7-9 w/ Emper Embrace at +0 = 140 EXP each

4600 / 140 = 33x

33x 16,000 Meseta per grind = 528,000

IIRC +25k x2 for potential unlock = 578,000

Net profit = 3,422,000 Meseta

So you're not throwing away money, really.
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>>167472364
>now after all that you're being told to farm like 200m~ exp for no fucking reason
It's 40m per class. If you play a class with any regularity you assuredly have enough cubes unless you were being fucking stupid and turning them into normal cubes.

Might not help as much with a subclass, but you have plenty of time to just run dailies and use keys whenever you get them.
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>>167472594
I play Fo and FI near exclusively but use Te/Hu/Gu/Br as subclasses so I have 4 classes to level from scratch now. I have 600~ class cubes in my storage but almost all of them are for the first two classes.
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>>167472381
if your running rod shoot 3/5 its really good
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>>167472785
Not as good as the 10% passive pp regen you get from austere, though.
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>>167472393
Why is everyone who reads that post ignoring that I'm strictly talking about paying the 12* affix cost to throw +90 emper on 12* being a waste.
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>>167473057
Because nobody suggested doing that in the first place?
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>>167472269
What makes you so sure that they meant every single classes' SPCOs being done? Do you really think that 1/4 the playerbase has farmed 720 million exp split evenly across all 9 classes?

>>167472365
I'm not forgetting it, I just think the +35 is a non-issue. I have a full time job and I'm a week away from my first set of +35 Astra weapons. Meanwhile, Kimura wants me to spend 60+ hours grinding exp just to unlock the cap. Guess which one bothers me way more.
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>>167473345
>I just think the +35 is a non-issue.
Hell, I agree. A lot of people seem to disagree though. There's been a ton of outcry complaining about the requirement, so I assume that's where people are failing to meet the requirements in order to make it as 25% of the populations.
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>>167473467
Just being the devil's advocate here, they just didn't think through that requirement at all.
There's barely any incentive to +35 weapons unless you really want that affix factor, OT, while still perfectly viable, basically got unnoticed and only now said anything about it, and all it amounted to was "something soon, idk"
I don't care much for the requirement at all, I just find it annoying that I have to grind out 2-3 extra copies to +35 weapons I already stopped farming for.
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Honestly, I think that the SP CO requirement is a good thing.

Far too many people reach 70 too fast due to bonus quest keys then not knowing how to play and ended up leeching MPAs.

That grind wall should serve as a throttle before they can access the 80/80 contents.

SEGA should make another Expert Block for people who cleared HoH 10, Boundary 10, have +35 13* and being 80/80.
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>>167474332
Ok but now they're just going to leech MPAs to get exp for their subclasses that they didn't want to play to begin with. I don't see how this is an improvement.
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>>167474332
Just because you've cleared all the requirements doesn't mean you still wont be a leech.
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Just how important are attack affixes? Isn't it the last thing in damage calculation? Why bother going above 100 for like 2-3% more damage while spending like 20 times the cost?
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>>167476303
120 isn't expensive at all nowadays.
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http://thecrimsondevil.com/

fuck aida, fuck cyberkitsune
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>tfw I went to go shopping and missed a public demise trigger
I d-didn't want 800k free xp anyways
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>>167476494
for some people
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>>167476303
Gotta get that max deeps. Everything you can put towards it matters.
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>>167474586
how would you fix it then
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>>167476938
can we just get a TLDR of what the hell is going on with this
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>>167477330
the typical 'aids twerker is stealing my porn' stuff
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Are receptors transferrable at all?
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sega bans people for nude patch but comes out with 99% nude outfits

i don't get it
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>>167477392
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>>167477261
If I had complete control I would gate level 80 behind completing both solo XQs. Players who have been playing for a while have the gear for it and can just go through it and new players won't be completely assfucked as they can unlock the cap as soon as they're able to do the XQ. Let level 80 blocks be exclusive for a couple of months and then unlock the cap for people who still can't clear it.

As it stands now, people who don't play their subclasses got fucked and new players are getting completely fucking reamed.
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>>167477330
Tl;dr someone is thinking tweaker is both a bitcoin miner and collects more data on you than google twitter and facebook do combined.
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>>167477330
hyper-advanced weaponized autism to surpass metal gear
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>>167477684
Only person I've heard of getting banned for mods is the thomas guy
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>>167477330
Someone is super salty that Aida-senpai won't notice him and is trying his itty-bitty hardest to cause drama instead of doing his apparent job of being a big bad scary lawyer.
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>>167477914
my friend said he got banned for it but he posted pics on some jp site??
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>>167477330
I tried to join aida but they said no so i made a site dedicated to opening the open source tweaker
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>>167477168
If you want max deeps why not just invest in more PP to attack longer? Or HP to facetank so you can hit shit more?
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>>167477796
This would imply AIDA is a genius who can successfully mask bitcoin operations and I don't think he can slide shaker his way into figuring that out.

>>167477684
>>167477914
They're pretty easygoing when it comes to this sort of thing. They don't really scan for it and generally only ban you if you do something stupid like post an identifiable pic of you using a TOS breaking modification.
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>>167478226
>I don't think he can slide shaker his way into figuring that out.
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>>167478216
Attack is always useful, PP and HP less so.

Mother for example. many classes can go max dps during her vulnerable phases and still not run out of PP. It's like that for a lot of bosses where they recover before you actually spend all of your PP. HP is the same deal but even more situational. Mother has very very little that's actually threatening depending on class. On the final phase I just use limit break on CD because you can avoid just about everything after a little practice.
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>>167478226
>I don't think he can slide shaker his way into figuring that out.
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Slide shaker?
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How do you R-atk players do it? How do you play these classes without being bored or annoyed?
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How do you PSO2 players do it? How do you play this kusoge without being bored or annoyed?
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>>167481525
By learning weakspots.

>>167481578
Fuck off.
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Photons
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>>167477751
you know this doesn't really deter anyone
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>>167474332
The other guy alluded to this but, basically, yeah, the extra grind won't necessarily actually teach anyone how to properly play anyway
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>>167469784
>>167472381
I got and affixed my Austere in December 2015 but with these Astra files being up for as long as they will be it became more of a "why not" thing more than it is trying to squeeze an extra 1% out

Plus a lot of these are for other classes anyway
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>>167472765
>use Te/Hu/Gu/Br as subclasses
>Didn't do the SPCOs before now
Are there actually people who unironically didn't do the SP COS for subclasses they regularly use or are people just joking?
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>>167477753
>and new players are getting completely fucking reamed.
People keep on saying that, but why? I started playing early January and have a couple +35 Astra weapons. Collecting cubes isn't really bad either with the LQ giving you like 2m an hour right now. The requirements really aren't bad at all, it's not like they are asking you to affix your gear or anything, a week's worth of tacos already covers the cost of grinding a weapon to +35.
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>>167484212
>Started playing early Jan 17'
>+35 astra without SG reset and with mother being rarer due to Chocoway for nearly two weeks now
Be honest
Do you really think you're the average new player and you've put an average amount of effort into the game so far?
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>>167484212
>I started playing early January and have a couple +35 Astra weapons
Assuming you don't have the devil's luck this means you spent 12 days waiting for sheet cooldowns to refresh which cuts you down to around 20 days. In those 20~ days, you went from level 1 to 75/75 and did around 30 Mother EQs. Is this right? Surely you don't think this is an average outcome.

The +35 weapon isn't my biggest complain anyway, it's the fact new players will have to farm 160m exp to get one class combo ready for anything relevant.

>Collecting cubes isn't really bad either with the LQ giving you like 2m an hour right now.
So just 80 hours of exp farming to unlock the privilege of leveling 75-80, no big deal.
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>>167484529
10*** days waiting for sheet cooldowns.
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>>167484460
No, but if I can do it in a month I don't see why other people can't do it in two or three. If you just can't make enough EQs because of your schedule you could also just farm stones and trade them for 13*s. Getting enough Kagaseo or Ares stones for 6 copies of those 13*s is easy as shit by just playing the game for a while. Fuck, right now you can just do the Choco CFs, those clear in one EQ each so you'd really only have to catch 6 EQs in like a month to get a +35, even less if you happen to luck out with a drop.
It's really not as big of a hurdle as people make it out to be
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>>167484090
3 extra points doesn't get you anything good right now for a lot of subclasses, not worth the time spent playing a class you don't like for no to a very tiny increase. 8 points is a different story.
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>>167484754
>Choco CFs, those clear in one EQ each
nobody new to the game is going to get into the private mpas that can do that, you're full of shit
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>>167484754
You just listed old type 13*, they don't apply to the new requirement. They don't grind like NT weapons do.

>Fuck, right now you can just do the Choco CFs, those clear in one EQ each
Ok now you can't be fucking serious, even if you get a 5 run pub it doesn't complete the sheet.

How fast are you ~claiming~ to have leveled? Since you hypothetically needed around 30 Mothers in 20 days, that means realistically you would have to have done it in under a week. You're insane if you think that's normal especially when the level cap exp is about to be doubled.
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>>167484863
You can clear the EQ limited portion in one session if you usee 250 rdr+100 tri+50 donuts+50 daily, and then run amduq for the rest.
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>>167484863
Take a good hard look at the CF. There is only a single drop that needs the EQ and that caps out in 4 runs. The remaining three (or two for the eggs) you can do in 3 runs of Ult Amd if you don't get fucked by Deadleon never spawning.
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Is /pso2g/ so starved for ways to be hardcore in a casual game that they jump for joy over grinding now?
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>>167484945
Getting my first 75 took like 5 or 6 days, I went fairly hard on the sub since I needed it to actually do anything relevant on XH and knocked it out pretty quickly, got kinda lucky with bonus keys on that part too.
Leveling is piss easy in this game, the grind is basically nonexistent. If you think it's difficult to exp you must never have played an MMO other than like modern WoW. I have about 25 left over excubes for my main class too so had I switched to playing my sub after finishing I would have been just about done with the lv80 requirements for this character.
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>>167485209
How many hours have you spent playing your character?
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>pso2g can't clear a fornis sheet in one choco eq
Can't make this shit up.
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Why are there even SP CO?
Why weren't they just levels?
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>>167484769
>not worth the time spent playing a class you don't like
There is literally no excuse in the days of bonus keys. Also I can't think of a single class where the extra points aren't going to give you something somewhat useful, at worst it's gonna be a bunch of ATK from ATK ups.
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>>167484754
>>167485209
So you're saying the average player can in 3 months, learn game mechanics, acquire gear, clear H&H to leech mother or the current hot-stuff EQ semi-efficiently, grind 80million xp per class/character (without the insane xp rates the LQ has provided for the last fortnight) they use and still have fun? I mean that sounds doable if you come from Trim Comp in RS3 and only play Hu/Fi and Fi/Hu on one character but otherwise, you're vastly overestimating the average player. Even in this thread I've seen Fo and Te players who've played for months and can't even clear 1-5 H&H
Hell I didn't even know what TACOs were until a month into the game and I had no idea using RDR would boost collection file acquisition until i was 2 files into Gix and I started in October
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>>167485264
I have 450 hours clocked in but I basically never close the game, so that's not representative of time actually played whatsoever.
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>>167485315
So the stat doesn't bloat out maybe.
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>>167485386
They even give you a pop up when you unlock the TACOs to tell you they exist, you must have just not been paying attention at all if most of that stuff wasn't obvious to you. Also HnH1-5 is really easy even if you are undergeared, I refuse to accept that people fail it after giving it a honest shot and doing a handful of attempts. I did it as Gu/Ra using the shitty booster units from the Ep4 story and random 10* TMGs, took me like 7 or 8 tries maybe, half of those died to Knight Gear, 2 to Gryphon, and 1 or 2 to Diabo. I feel like people that have problems with it try it once and then immediately give up when it's not as simple as the MPAs they've been carried through the remainder of their playtime
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>>167485356
I've gotten one gold key in the last month, they aren't some panacea to leveling.

Spending ~20 odd hours leveling Hu for Fi/Hu before would give you 16atk. With level 80, Fi now has access to Massive Hunter. Should I have done the SPCOs done by now? Maybe. But I also don't regret not wasting 20 fucking hours of my life not having fun in a videogame.

I don't want to pull the no lifer meme but why do so many people in this general just assume you have nothing better to do than play pso2? People have other time commitments and hobbies besides playing this game, especially if they wouldn't be having fun while they do it.
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>>167485632
To be fair, they did a big overhaul of the game when they released ep 4. The game didn't hold your hand as much. You weren't told what TACOs were if you never bothered talking to Klotho.
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>>167485843
They're a panacea for classcubes though.
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>>167485632
The game gives you a popup when Time-attack quests unlock, true, but for the actual client orders, all you get is "New orders from Klotho have been added"

>took me like 7 or 8 tries maybe
So if we go off your estimate that the "average player" takes 3 times as long as you do, that's 24 tries. Twenty-four fucking days of trying a single quest. Do you know how discouraging that can be? To fail a quest that many times in a row?

>I feel like people that have problems with it try it once and then immediately give up when it's not as simple as the MPAs they've been carried through the remainder of their playtime
And there's the crux of the problem. I hate reiterating this single concept so much but for the "average player" the learning curve is so steep that they perceive H&H as another level of difficulty when all Sega really intended it to be was a mix and mash of SH and XH, skillcheck and gearcheck. Now whether or not Sega recognised this problem is up for anyone to decide, but the fact remains that the average player can and will take months to pass this supposed skill-check and even after they do, they drag down expert block MPAs, and that you are vastly overestimating the dedication this "average player" will put into improving in this game
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>>167486060
Ah, a gold key. This will give me 10 million exp.
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>>167486110
>one try a day
You know you can try as many times as you want, right?
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Hello my name is pso2 general, I play a casual mmo for 60 hours a week and brag on imageboards about how hardcore I am.
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>>167486257
Oh I do
But as a newer player I only have one pass a day, as I don't have the excubes or photon spheres to spend on extreme passes
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>>167486393
Go play the casino
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>>167486110
>So if we go off your estimate that the "average player" takes 3 times as long as you do, that's 24 tries.
I'd imagine most classes have an easier time than Gu/Ra not getting one shot. It would also have been a ton easier if I just upgraded my gear a little, which isn't anything unreasonable.

>>167486393
What, just leveling throws a ton of cubes at you. By the time I was 75 I could have bought a ton of them already, it's not like you need to stock up on hundreds of RDB Boosters right off the bat, you have tons left over for Extreme Passes.
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>>167486203
It's funny because it actually will during a boost week. I remember getting so much Xp from a gold key tagami that the variable for Xp number overflowed so it displayed some extremely low amount but gave me 2 or 3 class cubes.
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>>167486203
the last 2 tokyo gold keys I did gave me 5.9m exp each, which is more than 3 cubes worth of exp per key.
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>>167486532
>>167486558
Now if only I could ever fucking get them despite doing dailies almost every day. If i ever get a gold it's always Magatsu which is like 1/6 the exp of tokyo. If tokyo gold keys were in the meseta shop every day I would just do that until class cap. I have a few hundred million meseta so I would rather just pay for 21 cubes than actually play the classes for the amount of time it would take.
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>>167486507
>By the time I was 75 I could have bought a ton of them already
Not if you affixed your gear which most people will need for solo XQs
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>>167486761
are you taking newearly sluts with you? also a magasu gold key seems to give about 2.5-3m exp.
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>>167486853
Was the thing about newearl sluts anything real or just a joke. I'm so desperate for a way to cheese the leveling process I can't even tell.
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>>167486936
Half the time I take newearl sluts with me I get a key of some description.
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For R ring for fighter just go with the class boost ones right?
also any idea how many class badges minimum you need to +20 it?
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>>167439860
Keep your head up.
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>all these babies crying about having to actually play the game for a bit to unlock content
LMAO
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>>167487873
I should make a game where people have to mindlessly grind for a few hundred hours until they actually get to the content, pso2g would all love it.
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I affixed 100/13 to a wep for 5.8m
Did I goof?
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>>167487963
Welcome to literally every MMO. Why are you even here if you don't like grinding? There are tons of games that don't have grind and yet you chose to play this.
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>>167488239
dressup
fun
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>>167488239
There's a big difference between doing actual content and spending hundreds of hours doing monotonous grinding solely for xp on classes you don't want to be playing.
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Is there a way to see your total title count? I'm 200 star gems away from my second CF slot but can't tell how far away I am from 600.
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>>167488461
Yes, there is
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>>167488375
Then don't do that? You can easily get all cubes 10 times over before they'll make 80 necessary by doing actual content with the class you need cubes for. If you hate how the class plays that much, just get some all class weapon and pretend you never changed classes.
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So if I can get an all-class *13 to +35 I can enter the upcoming expert blocks with all my classes, right?
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>>167488727
Wrong.
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>>167488727
it's stated that it has to be a 'specialized' weapon for the class, with the possible exception of talis for both force and techer, and rifle for both ranger and gunner
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>>167488367
you obviously don't have much fun if the idea of just playing the game is so stressful to you
>>167488626
this, plus with bonus keys you don't even need to do that much, you can literally just build yourself a stack of keys playing 30 minutes a day
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>>167488239
>WoW: You can level cap in a weekend, has a story
>FFXIV: About 100 hours to do a class, has a wide expansive world and a fully done story with new content from start to finish
>PSO2: Uhhhh do this LQ for 80 hours and then you can start 75-80
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>>167488527
Why does this general complain about the threads being dead if you act like this to people
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>>167488461
visiphone play records
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>>167489059
>this general is one person
>implying SAGE isn't still king in the year of our cock 2017
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>>167488968
Two traditional mmos with hotkey cycle gameplay focus on story, big surprise
PSO2 has a story too but nobody bothers with it because it's not in official english and the story patch takes forever to do anything and doesn't fix stuff that breaks
This is the shit you have to trade off to make an action MMO work, it's not currently possible to make large scale open world games that run on actual action gameplay. Only ones that pretend to be it like Tera and Blade and Soul.
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Io is for _____
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>>167489223
You don't even do the pso2 story when you level. Leveling in pso2 has always just been a mindless trash farm.
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>>167489252
Io is for Naizuri, you're on the wrong side.
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>>167488968
It took way longer to level in WoW back when the game was actually good. Them making leveling this irrelevant was actually part of what killed the game for me, aside from literally turning it into a facebook game. FFXIV requires you to do those shitty emergency quest like events past a certain point to level, there aren't even any quests for you to do, nevermind story at that point. That might have changed now, but that's how it was when I played. Also pretty sure that in both of those games the most efficient way to level is still to ignore the story and mindless grind anyway, nevermind that the story is awful.
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Going by pso2g logic, it would be even better if we doubled the cubes required for SPCOs. Why stop there though, we could even triple it
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>>167489252
breeding
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>>167488968
WoW: gameplay is shit cooldown rotation
FF14: gameplay is shit, spend 100 hours rotating cooldowns
Pso2: has actual fun gameplay which makes the simple act of playing fun, can get 75/75 in 70 hours just doing EQs and bonus quests and basic content, getting class excubes takes even less time because of the huge amount of exp gotten at lvl 75 from bonus quests.
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>>167489398
Why not just make all four SP orders take 99 cubes?
Let's also make the amount of exp needed to level over 75 take two billion exp each. Also, we should nerf EXP gains from EQs and bonus quests, but increase the amount from advanced quests, but only while playing solo on classes you enjoy playing.
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>>167489452
I wasn't aware WoW and FF14 also made you play classes you didn't want to be playing in order to level subclasses.
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>>167489495
>cross class skills
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>>167485632
>Also HnH1-5 is really easy even if you are undergeared, I refuse to accept that people fail it after giving it a honest shot and doing a handful of attempts. I did it as Gu/Ra using the shitty booster units from the Ep4 story and random 10* TMGs, took me like 7 or 8 tries maybe, half of those died to Knight Gear, 2 to Gryphon, and 1 or 2 to Diabo. I feel like people that have problems with it try it once and then immediately give up when it's not as simple as the MPAs they've been carried through the remainder of their playtime

Its easy for some classes. The burst range classes I can argue can beat it with 7-9* with low extend. A fo will NOT beat it without some affixed 12* with element pot or a 13* on and off ele. I thought I was just a bad FO but my friend gave me a little meseta to grind some potentials on some of those tech weapons with x boost to x spells and I beat it in like the second try. No new FO is going to have all of the money and time to find a jap request the important spell crafting,grind and affix,AC for skill tree and go beat these stages. Now I have some astra and ray weps and now mobs are stunlocked to death.

For a game that has great combat they are going about checking the players in a wrong way,
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>>167489398
I actually want there to effectively be no level cap at all and have the Xp scale exponentially so it would be literally impossible to reach cap and your level would be proportional to how much you played the class. As it stands right now levels are a meaningless mechanic in pretty much every modern MMO because everyone playing the game will be at cap anyway, or rather you haven't even played the actual game until you're at cap. It's basically just the worst, most inefficient tutorial as it stands.
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The threads being like this over the level cap shit might be more annoying than every MPA looking like >>167474586

>>167489549
God damn it no, the leechers are bad enough right now
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>>167488021
I did the new affix you're shit posted a while back with the 115/6 on ship 4 just mostly buying everything and it cost me like 3.7mil or a little less. I wouldn't say goof since pp>att after 100 but its more than my broke ass would pay for.
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>>167489710
>PP better than att after 100
How did this meme start
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>>167489495
>swap your main class
>get an all class weapon
>go do some SH despair with a class that will play mostly the same
really not that hard famalam, you don't even have to play it if you just make yourself a nice stack of bonus keys
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>>167489765
dude just do 20 gold tokyos lmao
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>>167489579
i did it pretty easily using the element potential 10 -11 star weapons that you get from magatsu and compound techs, FO is definitely more expensive to play but its still pretty doable
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if you're crying about how ~hard~ exp is to come by, consider fucking pse bursting on vhaq urban or if you have money to spare, the fucking meseta treasure shop.
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>>167489813
surely you can find time every day between erp sessions and idling in lobby to spend 15 minutes doing daily box quests
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>>167489980
Does your dad work for Sega, can you tell him that I never get tokyo keys despite doing dailies every day
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Is it possible to deregister ownership of 12* newtypes?
What the fuck am I meant to do with these?
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>>167489940
Literally no one is arguing that grinding is hard, it's just the single dumbest thing to gate level 80 behind.

*Sega makes level 80 require 300m exp* if you're crying about how ~hard~ exp is to come by, consider fucking pse bursting on vhaq urban or if you have money to spare, the fucking meseta treasure shop

*Sega makes level 80 require a billion exp* if you're crying about how ~hard~ exp is to come by, consider fucking pse bursting on vhaq urban or if you have money to spare, the fucking meseta treasure shop


Do you see why this is dumb
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>>167490018
even getting only maggy keys you could max cubes for multiple classes before the cap hits
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>>167490223
Except it's class cubes. Class. Cubes. The easiest goddamn thing to come across as long as you play the video game. It's not even an exorbitant amount of it. Sega can double the amount of cubes necessary for spco and it'll still be reasonable.
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As long as they never do class boosts again I don't mind the SPCO requirement. Sega can fuck off if they expect me to ever level Summoner a second time though.
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>>167490312
>he doesn't play summoner
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>>167490304
Feel free to tell me how to get class cubes without needing to level. Also tell me why a ranger main would have a mountain of hunter cubes if they hate playing melee and only did it for subclass. He gets ranger cubes by playing the game.
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>>167490304
They should quadruple it
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>>167490223
Levels in every game ever are gated behind grind. This is what levels are, in indicator for how much you've grinded. Guess what, after you've unlocked the level 80 cap you'll grind EVEN MORE to actually reach that cap.
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>>167490378
Why do you need those 5 extra SP on Ra/Hu if you didn't need the 4 extra before? Are you going to get the S-ATK ups?
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>>167490453
Why didn't they just make the requirement 50 class cubes then, more is better.
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>>167490507
To get into the 80/80 required quests that they already announced are going to happen.
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>>167490512
Because then casuals would whine even more than they already do. As it is right now it basically upsets everyone, casuals are upset because they have to play the game now to be at cap, people like me are upset because I still have no use for XP, aside from leveling alts I don't even want to play. I really think it should have been some optional autistic grind, instead of an optional easy grind that will actually be mandatory in a couple of months.
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>>167490591
Yes, an year later. When you have months worth of featured quests and keys from the treasure shop.
I guarantee you when we get an actual release date for those quests there'll be whining here as well, going WAHHHH I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD TO UNLOCK LEVEL CAP
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>>167485054
They've always been starved to prove how better they are than others
>muh TA times
>muh affixes
>muh # of td1 runs
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>>167490673
>casuals are upset now because they have to play the game now
Can we stop this meme considering people have to play classes completely out of their main's archtype to level a subclass
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>>167490732
Except you don't? Having a class set as mainclass is not the same as playing the class. I maxed my Hu cubes a year ago without ever touching a Hu weapon.
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>>167490819
If I saw a Hu main class running around with a rifle I'm pretty sure I would report/blacklist them
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>>167490872
>Hu/Ra
I've seen this more times then I'd feel comfortable seeing
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>>167490872
considering that reporting would do nothing and blacklisting just makes you potentially lose out on sales or cheap deals, go ahead
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>>167490872
But I was using Axeon. Also pretty sure a Hu/Ra shooting wb with rifle will still be more useful than 90% of actual Hu mains trying to do damage with Hu weapons. It's not like he loses that much damage anyway, the only mainclass Ra skill is sharp shooter iirc, which is why Bow Ra/Br died the moment they introduced mainclass weapon bonus.
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pso2g went from being a bunch of elitists to people that love grinding and think Hu/Ra is fine. What a sad descent
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What is with that one guy responding to people without quoting them and talking about pso2g like he's not part of it? Are we being raided by some erp discord group or something?
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Anyone want to play?
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>>167491343
yeah but I'm not in the circle or ship 4 sadly. I'm stuck in the pits friend.
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>>167491080
>>167490872
you lose bullet keep, which is more a quality of life thing, if you got a decent weapon though you can pull your own weight easily, and if you're that worried you can just do SH where you'll melt everything for slightly less xp
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>>167491343
Define play
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>>167491513
/la orz in a lewdkini on my bed
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>>167491564
>I don't erp
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>>167491564
I'm too poor for that lobby action
Whoopsy
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>>167491564
*prfffffffffbt*
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>>167491513
Choco in 5m
Then mom in few hours
A lot of time to do something in between
>>167491625
But i don't
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Just had a 13 minute run because nothing was spawning, thanks Sega
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When are we getting the earth tower defense?
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Will they bring Mother back if she wins the popularity contest
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVbJTftWJqU

6rd when?
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I don't mind the SPCO requirement personally but I really hate that they chose it because of what it encourages.

This was a Gu/Su. Also in this MPA was a techer pretending he was a force with talis.
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>>167493108
Don't worry mate.
It's not my fault I have to play TE without any support skills or FO without element conversion.
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>4 13* in one eq
wtf I love choco now
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Are these things worth keeping?
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>>167493254
Ragol memories are if you want pso1 stuff
The badges are pretty much garbage though
Unless they let you convert them directly to 2017/2018 badges at some point
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>>167493254
badges as a memory
the actual memory item can get you cosmetics based on pso
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I stopped running around with vraolet because I was on a several month long dry spell for 13* and so far I've gotten 6 this boost week. All tekked, all 31 grind cap. This is my penance.

>>167493254
Ragol are the same as when you got them, just cosmetics. The badges are useless.
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I haven't played for over a year. How alive is the game? I see alot of >ded game shitposting.
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>>167493498
If you're on ship 2? It's a corpse.
If you're anywhere else? Alive and well.
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>>167493368
Literally no reason to not carry a vraolet for chocoway
lose a bit tekking emperappy drops but its better than having a 2s 13*
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>>167491080
>Also pretty sure a Hu/Ra shooting wb with rifle will still be more useful than 90% of actual Hu mains trying to do damage with Hu weapons.

This ain't early 2016 anymore.
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>>167493537
>oh still forcing the same stale meme
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>>167493725
Which part's the meme?
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What's the S-rank condition for story quest 4-7, the Mother fight? It says there's an objective but I can't figure out what this means.

>>167493498
Ded game is just a shitpost because /pso2g/ isnt as active as it used to be a long time ago. The actual game is still very alive.
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>>167493576
There's still no reason to carry one, you'll get so many you'll inevitably get one of an element you desire, or a boxed one.

>>167494052
>he can't read
It says "non stop clear".
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>>167494102
What does that mean in the context of the Mother fight though
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>>167493576
>lose a bit tekking emperappy drops
Not even that, a high grind empe fodder is better than ungrinded. Easily worth the tek cost.
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>>167494052
There are two: Complete without checkpoints and "Recieve less than 2000 Damage"
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>>167494651
What does complete without checkpoints mean, I'm taking less than 2000 damage.
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>>167370369
I want to cum inside Tea while Patty holds her down
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>>167494651
Never mind, I figured it out. I didn't realize it meant needing to do every part of 4-7 and not just the Mother fight. Thanks for the help.
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>Hmm lemme 4s extreceptor
>Oh hold on, lemme remove this tag
>315k???????
>click on it
>this item has been sold or removed by owner
What are the odds?
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>>167495293
seems right price for a weapon.
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>>167495720
It was a unit
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>>167494368
>a high grind empe fodder is better than ungrinded.
Why? Do slots affect the exp they give?
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>>167496229
higher grind level is more exp.
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What did they mean by this
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>>167493537
Boy do you look stupid now, huh?
>>167496828
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omigoto oh-chin?
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>>167497045
nice mpa oh
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>>167496828
How many years ago did you take that picture?
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>being a playercount autist
>playing pso2
why do retards exist
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>>167497813
>menu says ps4
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>>167497915
Because NEETs and rejects flock to MMOs since it's a place where time and devotion can make them look good for once in their lives.
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>>167496828
DED GAEM guys
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>>167498384
But NEETs play play fighting games and devote time to them
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quick

how do I raise my dps as FI/HU
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>>167499397
switch to br/hu
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>>167499397
Your units better give you at least 130atk and I sincerely hope you have at least 1200 health so you can limit break without constantly worrying about dying if you get sneezed on.
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>>167500491
Are you including individual unit bonuses (ie. ray's +25 attack/unit), or not in that?
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>>167500704
I am not.
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>>167500491
I'll make 100+ attack units when doing so stops costing millions plus side resources that also cost a fuckton.

honestly people shouldn't be able to make that shit anyway. it's one of the reasons the game's balance has been fucked for years.
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>>167500754
I guess I can't live up to your expectations then, for I only have 100 attack per unit.

>>167500814
Sell your old units.
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>>167500814
I costs like 5m a try to do 120/6, how are so many people that poor?
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>>167500491

+100atk saiki and 910 hp

my hp being as low as it is actually discouraged me from using LB on anything other than trash mobs
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>>167501194
How is health that low even possible, did you craft the hp off your saiki? If you aren't using Limit Break on bosses you have no business playing Fi. You would do more damage as Hu.
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>>167501498
By not affixing HP, obviously. Not all races are made even.
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>lilith still uses saiki's unironically
>they still dont have a full *12 set (arms, rear, legs)

HOLY SHIT HOW SHIT CAN YOU BE TO NOT HAVE A FULL SET WWW@URINOCHI
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>>167501089
Literally how? The recipes I was looking at were all 10-15m+ for comparable stats.
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>>167502141
I still use Saiki. Better hope that Union is the new Saiki.
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>>167502515
Not having a full *12 set is unacceptable
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>>167502158
I'm looking at the market right this instant on ship 4. Assuming you bought all the materials, it'd cost you 3m total (including affix costs) for a 115/6 tech unit with granz/mod/tech3/flict.
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>>167502569
You need premium for the Austere jump and Ray is only better in the fact you can jump a ring into it. If you already have Saiki made there is no point to change it.
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this game feels like a joke
like the kind of game you play when your other main game is down
I'm still surprised there's a general
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>>167502895
nice damage control lilith
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>>167502959
I'm not lilith though.
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>>167502158
You're looking at bad recipes. I was going off ship 2 prices too. For a simple 4s unit you want to be upslotting from 3.
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>>167502895
>have multiple casual tryhard saiki sets
>sell them because only having one L ring is fucking suffering
Once you go step jump/air reversal you'll never go back.
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>>167502141
>tfw can't release saiki since its 150/9
I really need to grind mesetas.. Maybe later.
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>>167503559
I've lived without it this long, I can go without for awhile longer.
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5s with stat3 and 85/50/10 reporting in
I'm not a leech!
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whose worse out of these two groups: The people whp tryhard this game to show off "skill" (milrandul, the majority of Night Arks, Jp teams) or Pro fighting gamers (Daigo, ogawa, J. Wong, Smug)
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>>167503559
>he gets hit
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>>167504001
You're damn fucking right I get hit, and boy do I ever get hit a lot.
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>>167502627
>a 115/6 tech unit
Pretty sure he was talking about a S-ATK set though, not a single unit.
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>>167503992
Pretty much all except the most casual fightan players are the worst.
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>>167504052
Then he wouldn't really be wrong, it'd cost about 9-10m for a set.
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>>167503990
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>mfw can jg most stuff during mama phase fine
>try to use ignite parry
>miss all the guards
>mfw
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>>167503990
I have 2 85/50/6 sets right now, they'll be 100/100/11 after boost week starts.
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>>167504081
well the Pro players in this game are kinda bad since theres no competitive aspect (excluding TAs, Arks league) and they dont get any thing else thats not e-peen. Pro fighting gamers seemed to get more of a return for their autism like winning tournies gets you money, bragging rights, and sponsors. both are still bad but MMO players are worse than fightfags
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>>167504321
The worst thing about fightfags is that they can't be contained and are always in shill-mode.
I guess the same can be said of certain MMO players too(ffxiv)
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>>167504448
idk, i'm usually able to ignore shills. But being with other MMO players who are "pro" is the most dry thing i've experienced. They're more One-dimensional than the most autistic fightfag in shill mode.
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>no 12* units
>no class ring or badge
>using ot weapons

literally leeching
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>tfw all three dailies give a bonus key
Leveling's easy, lads
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How do you even get a 100/9? 6s upslot from 5 with Modulator or something?
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Cum join in
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>>167505907
I wish you'd pound me.
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>>167506462
What if I kilogram you instead
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>>167506820
Not enough!
Ton me.
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>>167505263
Are you high?
>Soul 35/3
>Flict 20/3
>ATK 35
>Fever 10/2
At most it would be 5s.
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>>167506950
fine
when and where
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>>167509237
Afraid it can't be
I am a shit 2 pleb
I'll never be able to be your toy.
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>>167487709
im trying but
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when are we going to get another fate/collab? A rerun of the prisma illya one with new stuff 3rei and the movie would be nice
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>>167509478
But I am on 2 too
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>>167509515
Ah, so you want this to be EP3 all over again?
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>>167509515
to hell with prillya. f/go if they're gonna do more fate/whatever. more variety and they can throw the guys a bone or two while they're at it.
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>>167510312
I would definitely like a /go collab, or a HF one. Im surprised they didnt do anything in this game to promote Extella
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>>167509515
Im still mad you got that outfit with one fucking pull
>>
as I root through my storage and I consider the likelyhood of astra getting upgraded later with something from the next raid, I can't help but hope that they do something akin to union, minus the "fuck you you have to solo it in a third of the time a group gets" shit. y'know, the "weapon + catalyst = better weapon at the same grind/ele/affixes" thing. even if they "compensate" for making it "easy" by paying out to groups, and make it take more catalysts per item, it'd still save so much hassle and inventory clogging.

>>167504816
>no thing that you have to beat the RNG to get non-shit examples of, oh no
>no 99% useless thing, oh god
>implying austere is bad
no anon, (you) are the leeching.
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>>167489468
>>167490223

fucking weak, OG players grinded out more than that back in the day and we're only just coming full circle.

noobs
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>>167510805
shhhh don't let the new guys know about our autism
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>>167510768
I'm still collecting astra for that purpose, mother's units are already going to be bttfo by union in a couple of days, so they absolutely need an upgrade to be the one true unit set of ep4 with 100hp/20pp per unit along with solid defensive values/resists. and good innate attack.
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>>167510805
It's as though people are forgetting that, more than once, sega retroactively lowered the required exp to advance through levels. Nothing like rocking negative several million exp to next level.
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>>167510879
they dont know about how rare 75% exp boosters were and olny used for PSE burst in city ragne EQ

>>167511210
the director pushes hard to get ayway with any additional grind it seems to prolong this shit for the 10 year lol, looks like they really are onyl going to go to lv 100
shot themsleves in the foot with the skill tree system, with levekl stats you can jsut make it up as you go but this is means actual planning and thinking when the employees consist of starbucks fashion designers and sakai

that -10 million tnl was the best login ever
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>>167511681
All they have to do to get people to flip their shit is allow rebirthing or something equivalent restarting you from level 1 to get a single additional SP.
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>>167503559
>step jump
hell yeah

>air reversal
meh
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>>167511908
lv 100 rebirth for 1 sp nice
gotta put that grind inside the grind man

didnt they have that in psp anyway cant remember what the rebirth stats was but

oh yeah here nice

http://bumped.org/psublog/rebirth-system-in-phantasy-star-portable-2-infinity/

oh wait, this will be the lv 90 to 100 system

lv 90 > rebirth >lv cap now 91> lv 91 > rebirth > lv cap now 92> lv 92 > rebirth lv cap now 93!

getting that sweet sweet xp and COSP class cubes on the way every time

10 Y E A R S
0
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Why do Arks attack Rappies? What did the Rappies do to them to deserve this?
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>>167513972
They destroyed our home planet, it's the reason why we are on spaceships floating about aimlessly waiting for the next asspull from Sakai.
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>>167513972
Rappies run around and pick up all the left items people don't want, caring for their home and environment, sell them to NPC and buy cake for emperappy...

Then horrible genocide ARKS come along trashing the place pretending to be cute little girls.

Yeah well rappies know the truth, little ""girls""

casts are better environmentally friendly too ur ok
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Make me sleep
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>>167513972
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>>167514548
Here, breathe in some cyanide gas.
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>>167515468
Smells like shit
Thonks ruppy
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>>167518319
Orange kuna not so good can we have blue one
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Where did this Rappy diarrhea meme even come from?
Back in the good old days we just made fun of Solus and Redrum
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nice scat fetish guys
>>>/d/
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>>167519982
>Back in the good old days
Anyone have the shitpostium picture with the minion-looking rappies?
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>>167519636
>Switching to a rappy costume right before
Has this ever actually happened in ERP?

Do you have chat logs because that sounds fucking hilarious.
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>>167519636
Why do you do this?
Why must you anger the Rappy community on /pso2g/?
Don't you know what happens when you anger the Rappies?
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>>167510751
I got it on my second of three, with the other two giving me gradiant twintails and viel's visor.
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Was there ever a rip of the raredrop/we're arks CD
Wonder if the songs were longer or whatever
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>>167525072
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Is the neo japan xie talis decent for ice? Whats decent illbarta damage for ice weak enemies? I hit for around 270k with my ice tree vs meduna.

FO is way different so far than the other classes its pretty fun but man there is a lot of prep.
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>>167526047
It's pretty welfare, I wouldn't call it decent unless you literally didn't have any better

The new potential it's getting later will only apply to the new quests they're adding too, as far as I know
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>>167526047
999k
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Did some item bank cleaning and found that i had that xmas talis with 34 grind cap and light attribute should i keep it like that or change its attribute?
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>>167527925
I didn't have much better tbqh

Ray collection is coming out should I just upgrade to that? I didn't affix the ice talis thankfully Might just use it for grind fodder if thats the case. The thing is that ele changers cost money and If i'm not incorrect didn't the weapons come in light ele?
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>>167529031
What Talises do you got right now
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>>167529390
12* illbarta talis
gix for lightining
2 old ass ares for fire/ranged ragrants shenanigans
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>>167529359
Ray would be a bit better for that, yeah, and indeed they do come only in light.

>>167529713
You do have the option of trying something cheeky with it later but light should be just fine for now
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>>167530185
I suck and have not done mother as FO but generally you want a light talis for there right?
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>>167530331
Correct. And Ragrants DPS is pretty absurd in general even on things that aren't explicitly weak to it, the last time I checked.
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Does anyone actually know what's going on in that second-last fight before Dedleon in the current Amduscia EQ? It's the most unholy incomprehensible clusterfuck I've seen in this game.
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>>167519982
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>>167530552
>mfw my cookiecutter light-spec FOTE's ragrants DPS has been shitty all along even with weapons that explicitly made light techs better
it's still light's best output, but clearly I'm missing something if I'm doing everything the "right" way as defined by theorycraft faggots and still get piss poor results.

>>167511051
at the moment most anything blows the fuck out of mother's units IF IT ACTUALLY DROPS. just fucking dropping at all is a massive improvement.

ardem's ranting about a paradigm shift not happening properly (by his definition) is ironic in light of how 12* units should be a paradigm shift for getting geared, but kimura has made sure it's a fucking miracle to get any that aren't inferior to things we've had for two years or more.
parity with existing shit would be sufficient for easily accessible things, but that faggot...
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>>167535809
like fucking clockwork whenever anyone wants to try to talk about the game. Fuck you
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>>167520368
give up after 15 min of looking shits impossible to find in my unorganised shit

>>167523318
mad rappies?!

>>167536295
what game
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Post your last 13*/14* drop!
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>>167535809
>>167536104
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daily reminder to blacklist and report all space elves (especially males)
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>>167538934
I will just block anyone who is a known erp person and people who say they don't (do)
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>>167536912
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>>167536912
>implying chocolate eq drops 13*s
All I get are shitty ass deadlion and rina units
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>>167542526
Get a better section ID.
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>>167536912
It was a Ray talis or HFB Kamaitachi, iirc
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>>167536912
I got a fornis td earlier this morning from choco

just kidding it was serafi
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>>167542526
>actually getting deadlion's unit
fuck you too.
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>>167543926
Third and counting. I'll exchange them for fucking fornis drops please.
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Go with wind on fornis td or muh light?
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>>167544934
flip a coin
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>>167519982
Less than a year ago there was an anon that would photoshop turds and fecal matter on every lo (Npc) picture. Replying anons asked "Why did you do that?" and the original poster of the picture replied that it was a reference from Rick and Morty "Show us what you got" episode, while including a youtube link to a video with little correlation to idea provided. People were mildy unenthusiastic and displeased about this "OC" because it lacked relation to the content reference provided.
It was written off with negativity.

Later an anon did something with a picture of Skengs whom many had grown tired of when it came to avatar-fagging so they photoshopped a rappy exploding into fecal matter or spraying it and people did not care because they disliked skengs more than they hated the Rappy defecations.

Long after this point a poster using a Bill Nye picture tried to explain the evolution of the Rappy and how there are multiple species, numerous origins and dietary habits using the physical parts of the rappie's anatomy. Many anons had follow up questions but that one that was significant was asking around how rappies dispel of their waste.

End

Many people called it out as a forced meme and its still held in the same state as it was back then.
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I don't really know about this four person limited quest coming up next week. Is it just me or does it not look particularly interesting at all?
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>>167545145
Since we smt now darkness will be the next element of the month right?
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>>167545512
>we smt now
Eh?
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>>167544383
fucking explode. I can't even get the damned shield busted before people kill it most of the time, much less get the fucking unit to drop. ditto the wand.

>>167545597
new boss is biblical adam, and he's looking to manifest god. he's making people into fake angels along the way.
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>>167545597
Ardem is basically mass creating angels now and basically you are fucking chaos
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>>167545821
I have 4 and one wand.
I hate it.
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>>167545445
Sega seems terrified of actually moving the game forward. We've been at a 75 level cap for years now, and when they finally announce a raise, and it's a measly five levels. Five SP isn't enough to care about. 13* weapons now have more variants than any other rarity tier. This PD solo/four-man thing is just another entry in the line of recycled content. If they've really run out of ideas, why not just give us our 200 level cap? Or reinstate the rebirth system from Infinity. If you're going to do this sort of thing, it should at least feel like I'm earning some sort of reward past a new weapon that's barely more than a lateral move from the old one.

If I weren't so obsessed with my virtual doll, I might think about doing something else with my time.
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>>167545821
Do you even need to break the shield for it to drop? I never noticed it broken when I got them.
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Why did they start calling these things "Neo Japanese" weapons
Did they just pull this out of their ass or what
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>>167545821
>>167545865
So that's what was happening. I've finally reached the point that I'm skipping story cutscenes, since the whole damn thing's gone so far off the rails. In the very least, I'll be much happier with an Ep 5 that's SMT over Ep 4's SAO any day.
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>>167546185
Ep4 was never SAO, it only felt that way because of how poorly paced the story was and took too long to explain the whole mother cluster and ether situation.
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>>167546031
Limited quests (this yearly event by extension really) are recycled content by design, that's not so much the issue I have here. It's more that they're propping it up as a big "twist" on the formula when it really doesn't seem like much on paper. The healing reduction on Odin's LQ was more interesting than this.

Not to downplay (or prop up) all the other shit you spewed out but that's kind of a separate thing
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>>167546370
People keep going on about how EP4 was so different from anything that came before when the reality is that it's just more of the same

Everyone seems to forget all the pointless filler every previous episode had before (and sometimes after) their climax too

Like, seriously, pretty much the entire plot of Episode 2 was dumped into Chapter 5, for example
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>>167547418
>>167547521
nice shota cat oh
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>>167546050
新和風 is what they called them on the streams
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>>167545207
its as unfunny as it was back then
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>>167545207
I liked plop plop Senpai more. The idea of Io shitting herself in that cutscene makes me laugh.
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>>167550356
I miss ep1-3 characters. I hate ep4 so much.
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>>167548762
Did anyone save that ditty?
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>>167550550
This, a shame I don't have more computers so I can give more votes to the girls losing to Hitsugi, join Echo and Marlu until the spotlight is returned to better characters.
>>
My mother MPA had a Hu/Su using a pet, a Te/Fo using talis, and a Br/Ra using katana. The new exp cap totally cuts down on leechers though, it doesn't encourage them to leech with bad class combos to level their sub.
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>>167551648
Talis Te/Fo is a legit spec.
I bet he was playing it wrong though
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>>167551648
br/ra is a legitimate class combo though, if using a bow.
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>>167551648
Hu/Su is a legit spec, psow said so.
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>>167550772
I'm still shocked that the old man is the most popular male
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Would you get it?
Why or why not?
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>>167550550
It could have been salvageable, just
>Remove isekai garbage
>Remove current-day Japan
>Remove ridiculously anime characters
>Remove school setting
>Remove Abrahamic mythology
At that point it would have been about making first contact with a species almost capable of using photons, and having it all go to shit because Photoners. Really, we've gone back to the problem I had in PSU where it felt like I was just a tacked-on side-character instead of the MC.

Earth was a mistake.
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>>167552015
He was using r-atk units

>>167551931
I checked him at the start/end and he was wearing a katana both times. I never heard bow PAs so I'm assuming a bit here.
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>he still doesn't play the maron class
Do you hate dealing damage?
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>>167552074
>It could have been salvageable, just do something completely different
The rhetorical gymnastics you had to do to come up with this is astounding
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>>167552701
I liked SU when it was more about using the right pet for the situation and less Raccoon chuckers the class.
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>>167548520
>>167546050
nerd to the rescue
新 new
和 wa (as in super ancient name for japan)
風 style
probably read it as "shinwafuu" or something similarly questionable sounding.

>>167552074
>wah wah why is erf in phantasy star
>I didn't play the original series and am whinging because this ep's being mainstream and I have to hate mainstream-looking things or I'll lose my hipster cred!
cry som moar.
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>>167552074
you weren't a side character in PSP1 and PSP2. PSU vanilla was mainly about ethan, AOTI was concluding the shit with the SEED and the established characters from vanilla finishing up most if not all of their plotlines
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>>167553305
So you DO hate dealing damage!
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>>167553367
If we got some time shenanigans then I might be able to forgive this shit. Maybe something like we created the photoners or something.
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>>167553454
I don't count PSP as PSU, since the PSP games were good.
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>>167553473
I hate boring samey classes even if they shit out damage. Go ahead and be top DPS with your snoozeville setup.
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>>167552074
>Really, we've gone back to the problem I had in PSU where it felt like I was just a tacked-on side-character instead of the MC.
There's nothing inherently wrong with telling a story this way. Phantasy Star Universe is far from the first piece of fiction to ever do it, either.

You could consider it a bad fit for a game like this where the audience is expected to have much more interest in their own character than the others, but it is a solution to another problem where a game imposes far too much of its own intent into a character that's supposed to be your own.

For example there's no way to be a complete and total asshole that just wants to see the whole fleet burn, the occasional choices you do get are very limited and often paint an inherent altruism and optimism to the player character that you yourself might not actually agree with or want him or her to have.
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>>167553541
Not an argument. just because you the PSP games were judged as good by your metric doesn't mean you can disregard that its still PSU
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>>167553454
You were totally a fucking side character in PSPo1 and PSPo2, those games were totally about Vivienne and Emilia respectively, and then Infinity's episode was centered on Nagisa, which, let's be honest, was probably riding on Selvaria's coattails anyway
>>
>>167552074
The bad guy organization(s) and their general motives are more or less fine. The problem is we got tied down to Hitsugi+friends boring anime trope bullshit soaking up storytime like a sponge.
Reminder that we could've had Io do more this episode instead like we were originally lead to believe with her slight design change thing that seemed like they were making a big deal over.
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>>167550550
The only good EP was ep3
others were just as trash as ep4
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>>167554603
(you)
>>
>Left side has 7 people, takes 2 minutes longer to clear
HOW
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>>167552701
>the only thing that matters in the game is dealing damage
retard
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>>167556130
No Zondeel/Gravity Bomb?
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>>167556130
>te goes left side
>refuses to use zondeel
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>>167556185
>I don't deal damage but at least I have muh honor
>>
I was withholding judgement until some time had passed but personally MPA quality has been shit ever since the level cap announcement. I used to get 4 choco runs minimum and almost always within 30 seconds of a 5th run. Got 5 runs about every other choco pop and never even came close to only having 3 runs. Ever since the announcement, it's almost always 4 runs being nowhere close to a 5th. Now instead of 5 runs every other choco, it's about a 1/3 chance to be 3 runs. Everyone is leeching with subclasses now.
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>>167556903
Ship2 5pug runs reporting in
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>>167556130
You should be able to solo the left side as a fo/te.

>>167556903
Instead of complaining on an anonymous imageboard, find some friends (who are actually good) and run with them. it's not that hard, I just finished my 6th run.
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>>167557546
>You should be able to solo the left side as a fo/te.
Good joke
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>>167557546
Everyone on hear is an autist obsessed with drama and everyone in game is a rawr XD leech with 2s affixes.
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>>167556882
it's about having fun playing a video game. I called you a retard because you didn't get that.
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>>167558145
>I don't deal damage but at least I'm having fun
lmao, pathetic
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>>167556882
If people played videogames solely to deal the most damage, Force wouldn't be the least played class.
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>>167558217
>only maron deals damage
sasuga pso2g, truly the kinds of intellect and game discussion
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>>167558224
>Force
>most damage
lol
>>
FOTE is fun
t. FOTE main
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If they can lock people out of EQs based on level why don't they just lock out Hu/Gu/Br/Bo mains out of them too?
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>>167557907
It's not a joke, you can more or less oneshot the wolga with barantsion and the goldrahda spawns melt instantly if you just zondeel and spam ragrants. Just make sure you either get burned/poisoned along the way for super treatment or you have a nykta mag ready. It's easy, assuming you have decent gear. If your choco runs are that bad, it just means that you aren't carrying hard enough. Even in pugs I usually get 5 runs.

>>167557931
Make friends, git gud, then people who are also gud will want to take you along for their EQs.
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>>167558301
>taking everything literally
sasuga pso2g, truly the kinds of intellect and game discussion
>>
>>167558578
Dont lump GU in with those classes
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>>167558610
You and I have a different definition of instantly
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>>167558610
What's a nykta? I've been playing since open beta and I've never heard of this.
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>>167558610
"Make friends" didn't address anything.
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>>167558692
ok shitposter
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>>167558829
ok no-damage
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>>167558932
>guys dont take it literally
>except what I say lul
ok shitposter
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>>167558772
You still get to bring it as a subclass which is all that matters. Bringing Gu to mother pubs is like screaming you want to be carried.
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>>167559052
ok irrelevant-damage
>>
So, what's the "correct" way to build chain as su/gu? I've heard it has something to do with safoie-0, but I have no idea how that works.
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>>167558819
Meant Ketos Proi, whoops. The PP fish.

>>167558816
It's close to instant if you have good units, a good weapon, and tree atk buff.
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>>167559134
>if its not maron its irrelevant
ok shitposter

inb4 >dont take literally xd
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>>167559206
Don't be ridiculous, the only reason it seems instant is because you usually have five other people with you there
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>>167559115
Gunner main can carry pretty hard
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>>167492360
>>167559206
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>>167559219
Now you're getting it, no-damage-retard-kun
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>>167559509
Have fun dealing with arms if no one is WBing them for you.
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>>167559206
Still doesn't answer the question of "what's a nykta". I'm guessing it's a butchered translation of nifta, which is the zondeel/gravity bomb-esque pb.
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>>167559642
the retard here is you, and I still beat most chuckerfuckers with fi.
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>>167559891
ok, better-than-zero-at-least-im-having-fun-kun
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>>167559158
You hit the boss
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>>167559978
>>167559978
>>167559978
>>167559978
>>167559978
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>>167559959
yes that does describe literally every class, good job retard.
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>>167559701
That can be troublesome but how often does that actually happen
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>>167560162
In pubs? Every single MPA from my experience. If one arm gets WB'd per phase it's a good group.
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