/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>>167329041

>Second and final dlc comming
>Still no Silver knight straghsword
>Still no silver knight spear
>Still no blue cape lothric knight armor

>>167329408
Kill the giant guys, and the small dudes won't bother you. When you get to the top, kill the dual greatsword wielder and the rest won't bother you.

So who else will be playing No Fun Souls 3 in the next 2 months?

>>167329421

Why does the low framerate in 1 bother me but not BB?

>>167329547
I think most people will have moved on to Nioh by then.

>>167329561
not me

>>167329547
I'll be busy with Nioh.

Don't know why people want pvp when it's bovious 2kat and spear would dominate.

>try and invade as a pyro
>other invaders go full retard and jump in the way of my attacks
>they die
>get gankbanged

pls

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>>167329919
Too bad for you, anon.

>>167330036
>Farron armor
>Warden twinblades in the catacombs

I can't believe that shitters like that get summoned and I'm stuck waiting around with my dick in my hand.

>>167329421
1 has a 60 fps option

BB is stuck as is

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>>167327957
>tfw can't play Bloodborne because no PS4

Suffering.

I'm considering getting one once the PS4 pro will be released. It kinda annoys me for just one game, but I know I'm going to spend many months of my life on it.

>I'm considering getting one once the PS4 pro will be released.
?

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>Decide to invade settlement for a bit on a low level character
>90% of invasions are twinks
>Every one has 2-4 phantoms summoned

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>Dorkmoons don't have their own orb
>Dorkmoons have a rivalry with Aldrichfags but don't get summoned when Aldrichfags invade someone
>Blueberries don't have a rivalry with Farronfags and also don't get summoned when Farronfags invade someone

>>167330627
Everyone else moved on, we gank wars now

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>>167330627
>not being the most twinked out motherfucker in entire settlement and crushing everything like worms they are

>>167330506
>but I know I'm going to spend many months of my life on it.
You're not.
The online is practically dead and leveling a blt or arc build will make you want to kill yourself.

>>167330667
>even our god was fed to a giant blob for kicks
It's like the game was made solely to laugh at our misfortune

>>167330756

That kind of ruins the entire point of low level invading really

>>167330794
it's already a twinking arms race down there

if you want to mostly get people playing through the game, cathedral and onwards is the way to go

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>>167330667
>Dorkmoons have a rivalry with Aldrichfags but don't get summoned when Aldrichfags invade someone
Well, he IS the Darkmoon Church.
It's herecy then.
HEEEUUUAAAGHHHHHHHH

>>167330627
>Invade in dragon barracks SL 90
>only 2 out of 20 invasions had white phantoms
>both of those invasion had only 1 no hp phantom.

>>167330794
Invasions aren't about fairness 2bh. A normal 1v1 invasion with two similar players is basically a duel.

>>167330627
>slay faggots buttbuddy
>he just chugs and resummons him at no penalty
>kill the phantom again
>get host low
>pulls the plug at no penalty

working as intended :)

>>167331460

I never said they were supposed to be fair.

That being said, while the cards should be against them, it's far too much in DS3

>Priority to co-oping hosts
>Deal lower damage
>Less estus (not generally a problem)
>The way stunlocking works with multiple people r1 spamming
>Invaders lose souls if they die in an invasion now

among other things.

>>167331610
Well you won that one and killed two phantoms so I don't get the big deal. You really wanted the tongue or something?

People shitting their pants and alt f4 is funny.

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>>167330774
They couldn't even be bothered to make the Darkmoon longbow decent. If you get the minreqs for the Pharis bow and 40 INT the DMLB still seems to be easily outdamaged by the Dragonrider bow.

>>167331685
Wait, you automatically do lower damage too?

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I dont like nioh, I dont like samurais

>>167331856

I don't have research based evidence or anything but compared to being summoned to duels, etc. I certainly do a fair amount less damage in invasions.

>>167331685
It's a choose your own difficulty thing.
People will pick whatever isn't braindead but not impossible for their skills.
If you're an awful player, you'd just go back to twinking in dark souls or 2, or bluefagging.
If you're bad, you can just twink in 3 to make up for lack of skill.
If you're better, you can fight at increasingly higher SLs.

Invaders also don't deal less damage, unless you're saying 30% more HP means less damage done

>>167332063
it really seems that way

>360 AR on a pure dex weapon
>hit for 120 per hit

>>167331925

Nioh is going to be amazing and you're going to play it and like it

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So how are we gonna access the DLC?

>>167332261
My bet is that room in the Profaned Capital that has absolutely nothing in it. The one under the guy that has Logan's scroll.

>>167332261
Most certainly through the Kiln. All signs of the trailer point to it. I have the slightest hope that it's a new path that opens up in the area though, rather than an NPC or object that you interact with.

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How do you guys plan your characters and how detailed do you do it (the character planner aside)?

Currently I'm creating a excel table in which I note which rings to use, what armor, which spells etc. and where to get all that. Downside is that it's quite a lot of work, especially with looking up the locations of every item, but I think it's better than constant alt-tabbing and looking it up.

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why is the estus so unbalanced in 3? Literally every souls game had a better system

>>167331925
Nioh has western plate armor and a bastard sword.

>>167329240
what happened

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>>167332382
I mostly don't, other than making a mental note of what areas I should go in to find items of importance to the type of character I want to play.

I thus end up allocating levels more or less at random while hoping to stay under a a certain threshold, although sometimes I get lucky like in pic related where by the time I decided that I wanted to wear full Havel I just had exactly enough points left to get within 0.8 weight points of the minimum with the Ring of Faith and Protection [I wanted to wear it over Havel's Ring].

>>167332740
Patch incoming, all the fun glitches are getting patched. No more boss invasions. At least there won't be any tumblebuffing either.

>>167329421
>Lucy continuing to autistically answer questions nobody has asked

You've got nothing of value to contribute, but want to seem like you do.

>>167332474
It's about the full picture, it would not be such an offense if you couldn't roll around effortlessly for a billion times, which is also an issue due to load weight and midrolling system being a joke.

>>167332474
>Literally every souls game had a better system

DeS is still debatably worse.

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>>167331925
kek

>>167332261
The same way they showed in the trailer. So far, the trailers for AotA, TOH, and AoA showed how to access it.

Access point this time is at Flameless Shrine. There's a Londor pilgrim who'll be standing off to the side and sends you into all the helter-skelter rooftops.

>>167332474
estus in ds3 is one of the most balanced in series, not an abomination of 1's "20 estus flasks in 10 minutes after starting the game" or ds2's "infinite lifegems for 300 souls per piece"

>>167332838
It's been that way for five years and counting, anon. If you haven't filtered him by now, I recommend it.

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I already finished this game once but never figured out how to get there, I see the bonfire, but have no clue.

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>>167333219
Do you believe in 「gravity」?

>>167333219
just walk in straight line

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>>167333219

try walking forward

>>167332838
Stop replying to attention whores.

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Is there a waifu more better than Yuria?
>Regal
>Respectful.
>Looks out for any threats towards your rule, and praises swift judgement.
>Gets you a consort, and says she's also thine, so threesomes are on the table
>Sells the best weapon to fist the second best waifu in the game.
>If you accept her help against the final boss, she leaves her clothes where she stood before implying she's waiting for you to go tap that.

>>167333219
Who treads across thin air?

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>>167329240
Riposting

>>167333219
Only in the leap from the lion's head will he prove his worth.

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>>167333374
>>167333337
>>167333318
>>167333293
>>167333273
How are you supposed to know this.

>>167333335
>arrogant
>manipulative
> her minion gives you an incurable curse that she sells the only treatment for
>tricks you into killing people who might poison your mind with lies
>gives you a sword fueled by your pain to protect you
>teaches you miracles that mindrape people who might poison your mind with lies
>they're spells about suffering and pain, and one of them literally makes people shut the fuck up
>has best girl killed, brainwashed, killed again, and indoctrinated, in that order, because you can't be with anyone who might turn you against her
>teaches you how to suck with the best of them
>makes you a king because she knows you'll do everything she says and it's too late to back out now

Yandere a best

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>>167332838

>>167333427
There's a hidden developer message in front of the walkway. Light a candle or cast seek guidance to see it.

>>167333427
ebin reference to crystal cave

Oh boy, an elf.

>>167333335
I would take the entire host of the Duke's Pisacas as waifus over that manipulative Snake-worshipping harlot.

I've got like 90k souls in DSII but I don't want to level up because I'm overleveled as is. I'm level 52, what should I spend my souls on?

>>167333519
You have a shit taste.

I bet you linked the fire too.

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>>167333509
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>>167333509
Elves don't have tails you dork.

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>>167333450
When you become her king you can do everything with her and she will happily oblige.
Not like she can do much against someone who was transformed into a walking hollowed First Flame.

>>167333043
That set on the left should have been the preorder bonus. I would have actually pre ordered the game for that.

>>167333642

Lick her product of incest tail

>>167333642
>>167333509
Kill it for a nice prize.

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tfw no match

>>167333668
She loves every moment of it.

>>167333729
>using password
well duh

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>>167333701
>forfeiting darkmoon blade
Shameful.

>>167333629
upgraded gear and a shit ton of life gems

>>167333968
that is the most awful picture i've ever seen in my life

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>>167333642
Why are all the half dragon girls (her, the one in the DLC, and Priscilla) the best characters in the games?

>>167333968
Is this the new cringe/faggotry meta? Looks powerful

>>167333335
>wanting to share yuria with some faggot in with white dress
why are you such a cuck.

>>167333457
Friendly reminder that Lucy died to maneater boar.
Repeatedly.

>>167334163
Mixing races creates better people.

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>>167334093
It's before your time.

Is Frost/Frostbite damage any good?

I wanted to make a Fire & Ice build.

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>been playing wolf knight sword main hand, dark hand off hand
>decide to try WKS off hand dark hand main hand
WHOOOOOOOAAAAAAA!

>>167334484
It's pretty much a reverse Deep Protection, except the effects aren't halved in PvP. So, it's kind of okay, but there are better things you could be doing.

>>167334316
>>wanting to share yuria with some faggot in with white dress
The fuck you on about?

>>167334508
Can you do the weapon art with one hand or is it your usual block + r1 shit?

>>167334414
This is what Seath was really trying to research

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>>167334484
it's only somewhat good on low-levels
it also lowers absorption for some time, my vestiges are getting ~10% damage boost against afflicted targets

How's PvP in vanilla DaS3? Is the dlc with the arena mandatory?

>>167334718
>Is the dlc with the arena mandatory?

No.

>>167334661
As usual, but all I have to do is hold triangle to two hand WKS for WA, or press left on the dpad if I wanna suck face.

>>167334684
>freeze someone
>they get more damage from fire
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>167334389
0/10, If you are going you should make it more believable or funny. For example:

>Friendly reminder that Lucy died to maneater boar, repeatedly, because he enjoys fisting fat cunts' asses too much to let it end.

See how much better that flows and how much more character it adds? It's more likely to get you the replies you are so desperate for too.

: )

>>167334414
Fair point. You that is things like Dog Breeds too. Mutts tend to have less health issues and such.

>>167334660
I think he means the pale shade, though there isn't really "one" pale shade to my knowledge, they're just like londor CIA or something

>>167334851
>: )
wow butthurt much
glassig lucy :DDD

>>167335018
They're just assassins.

>>167334718
No, the best weapons for meta level pvp are in the base game, and people just make fightclubs after sully, though you miss out on some good invasion weapons if you don't have the DLC.

>>167333729
I can fight you if you want

>>167335092
Stop replying to the autist. You'll make it think it's people.

WHAT'S THE FUCKING TIMING TO PARRY A RUNNING WASHING POLE

IT FEELS IMPOSSIBLE

WHY

SOMEONE

ANYONE

>>167335298
When they pull their sword back. You need good connection though. Pretty fun to get that parry.

>>167335129

Alright. Have time for a couple.

>>167334414
Well, not exclusively better people. I'm not /pol/, but genetic mixing is the reason why people typically need braces etc (and to affirm that I'm not /pol/ this is generally due to the mixing of a bunch of different white "races").

It would be more precise to say that it gives you a wider variety of people, which includes some "better" people, who get selected in favor of by their environment.

>>167330771
Not everyone is the same, I usually enjoy things I like for a lot of time until I get burnt out, which is after some months, even years sometimes

>>167330620
I didn't know it was already out

>>167332474
Distributively it isn't so bad, it's just the actual sip itself and infinite stamina which fucks everything.

Don't you still recover stamina while sipping? That would probably be a good thing to change.

>>167335597
Part of the problem is that humans don't have genetic diversity to begin with. Any mixing of our races is comparable to sibling incest for other animals.

>>167335429
I need to see it with my own eyes to believe it's possible

>>167335737
>sipping now costs stamina
>can't sip with no stamina

Does this fix Dark Souls 3?

>>167335743
>Any mixing of our races is comparable to sibling incest for other animals.
As opposed to non-mixing or something? Would that be self-cest? I'm not sure if you're saying our mixing is bad or just making the point that it's the best we can do (as you could argue that it's woefuly less diverse than yiffing dragons).

so in DS1 is the parry dagger/buckler a trap? It only has 2 more frames to parry but it has a longer recovery than regular parrying (4 more than thrusting sword, a weapon that's potentially decent to offhand with)

>>167335909
Best we can do until gene therapy becomes practical and affordable.

Bestiality isn't helpful at all since it doesn't produce viable offspring.

>>167335841
I don't think it needs to cost stamina, but it should require you have stamina and prevent you from recovering. Requiring noticeable amounts of stamina to eat just seems conceptually weird, and I wouldn't want it to be too comperable to healing miracles.

>>167335737
the only thing that needs to be changed is giving estus flasks instability frames for full duration
this way a single vestiges will deal like twice the damage flask restores

>>167334781
That's physics for you, it's called thermal shock.

>>167335737
>>167332474
IMO if you got hit during the sip animation your character should enter the headshot animation.

And give it an instant heal, but a big recovery.

Also if you got hit during the last frames of your roll, after the iframes, you should take double damage and fall flat on the ground.

Also rolling more than once in sequence should add stamina to the next roll, so you can't spam it.

Also going negative stamina with a roll after stacking roll cost at least 3 times you force you on slow walk for 2 seconds

Also going negative stamina with an ultra weapon attack should boost your defenses and poise.

Pressing L3 without running should kick

>>167336001
>Bestiality isn't helpful at all since it doesn't produce viable offspring.
Well yeah, in a real-world context. you could more easily just say that fucking dragons in a real world context isn't useful simply because you can't.


And to go back to this:
> Any mixing of our races is comparable to sibling incest for other animals.
This actually isn't a perfect analogy due to the difference in lifespan we have compared to things like dogs etc. One hundred years of dogs having dogcest is going to have much more genetic consequence than one hundred years of humans doing the same. They need higher diversity that keeps up with their higher reproductive rate, so it's at least less of an issue for us, to look on the bright side.

>>167336337
So basically elves would have almost no genetic variation and would be wiped off easily by any disease?

Quick question about Anri's SS, does it benefit from being hollowed? I read the wiki and a bit confused here.

3 days until Nioh ruins the souls series

>>167336563
I hope so, Miayzaki needs adversity so he can get motivated to actually make a new masterpiece.

>>167335597
I was memeing. though I am 2 races

>>167336526
No. Anri's SS scales on luck but is not a hollow weapon so it doesn't increase your luck with hollowness. If you're holding a hollow shield in your off hand then you'll get a bonus from that.

>>167333629
Why don't you wanna over level, you doing MP?
2 or sotfs?

>>167333140
like most mechanics in DS1, it's the best version of the idea in the series ruined by execution

having a set tier of estus per area, that you can upgrade by humanity (a semi-rare resource that you can gain and use in various ways) is a fantastic mechanic. It's just a little unbalanced that you can get so many so easily if you know what you're doing.

Instead of taking the good idea and fixing out the issues, the ds2/3 team just threw it in the trash for something worse.

>>167336754
Thanks anon.

>>167334851
Reminder that Lucy likes getting his fat ass fisted

>>167336834
The series is just tired, there's no room to make new ideas while keeping the formula.

Miyazaki needs to make a new souls game, dark fantasy, but unrelated to Dark Souls.

The mistake in my opinion was trying to connect the games history, instead of just doing like, for example, Disgaea.

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Ashen Ones,

A new patch will be deployed on February 8th. It will fix some issues currently in the game, such as Boss rooms invasions, items "tumblebuffing" and spells "dartcasting".

Content of the patch:
Fixed issue where a player could invade another player during a boss battle.
Fixed issue where an enchantment could be applied to weapons which normally could not be enchanted.
Fixed issue where, when items are used while casting magic, display glitches could occasionally occur.
Fixed issue where it was possible to cancel immediately into a second magic spell after casting the first one.
Fixed issue where the first part of a skill action could be skipped.
Fixed issue where a single item could be used indefinitely.
The patch will require a server maintenance at the following times:

JST: February 8th, 2017 5:00pm – 7:00pm
CST: February 8th, 2017 9:00am – 11:00am
PST: February 8th, 2017 12:00am – 2:00am


Cheaters get #rekt, How fun will the game be now when you have to GITU GUDU instead of abusing glitches.

>>167336834
20 flasks in ten minutes after starting ds1 is not "little" unbalanced, anon
made even worse by full humanity heals too
i mean, it's better than atrocious ds2 healing system but infinitely worse than relatively balanced ds3 healing system for sure, ds3 flasks heal for less and there's less total of them, there's also no other sources of consumable healing you can simply grind without going for next NG cycles, and you're forced to collect shards for the entire game, for vast majority of it you run with ~9 flasks at most

>>167337009
>I can't buff my Demon's Greataxe with fire anymore to actually make it useful

just

>>167336417
>by any disease?
If one dropped, it's likely the rest would. Though getting that first "one" might not be easy. If a species can afford to let its individuals live 1000 years before having a kid, it's likely that it's got pretty good defenses to pass on. By assuming that there is a population of elves to potentially be wiped out, you're assuming that they were strong enough to get as far as they had under that selective pressure. Of course, a bunch of long-living organisms aren't likely to exist that long when surrounded by threats that evolve way faster than them, assuming those threats have other things to feed off of in the meantime.

>>167336676
"Do I pass on my genes, or do I pass on my memes?"

>>167335909
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/01/human-pig-hybrid-embryo-chimera-organs-health-science/

It begins.

>invade a dude and his Sunbro
>Sunbro keeps cockblocking me even after I aggro mobs to create space to go after the host
>they clear out most of the mobs leading up to Abyss Watchers and gun for me, kite them back to the swamp to lose them then loop back after they go for the boss door
>all my mob aggro pays off as host runs out of Estus early in the boss fight, and I create enough chaos to let the Abyss Watchers finish off the host
>applause as I fade out and the Sunbro runs at me with his Zwei, as if it matters anymore
Only five more days of this fun. Abyss Watchers really is the best boss for this glitch, the pandemonium in the boss room can really cover you well.

>>167337009
If you honestly thought from wouldn't patch boss invasions, you're an idiot.

>>167337163
>human-pig-hybrid
so they made priscilla?

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Friendly reminder that Bloodborne let you parry vials.

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>>167337163
We truly are an incredible species.

Kys namefag.

>>167334684
10% doesnt matter much at low lvl? isnt that why everyone uses prisoners chain at low lvl because flat defence increase is actually more than the - absorption

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>>167337009
>I have 5 days to get a proof of a concord well kept so I can dupe it

>>167337242
It as already patcher with the black crystal to be honest.

Wasn't the glitch tied with the tumblebuffing anyway? Fixing one thing would fix the other that is.

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>>167335298
>>167335751
Like >>167335429 said it's when they pull their sword back. Most people who use katanas like to repeatedly use the Running R1, so they become predictable and easier to parry.

>>167337283
daily reminder that it also had silky smooth psn netcode which meant half of the time heal parry timing was absolutely unreliable, devolving fights to much worst fuckfests than we see anywhere in ds3

>>167333140
Doing pinwheel early is a thing almost no one does. Those good enough for it don't need 20 estus, those bad enough won't beat catacombs and gather humanity so easily.
That's like saying the game is over when you beat quelaag since you'll dupe the soul non stop or to reset the characters for BK weapons.

Same for 2 really, since lifegems inflate SM early on.

The actual estus itself is awful in 3 since you can't even be backstabbed if the other guy is right behind you. If fact, he needs to be careful not to backstab and just R1R1 so as to not waste damage

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>>167337283

>>167337361
At low levels actual frostbite damage is already good enough for this spell to serve as area denial.

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>>167337427
Compared to what? This?

All souls games have shitty netcode, anon. Bloodborne is no worse than any of them.

>>167337073
>>167336834
>>167332474
Ironically, the game that did the estus the best was Salt&Sanctuary, tieing estus to the covenant and by adding the injury system.

For those who don't know, Injury basically is: Every damage you take damage, a % of that damage is taken of your maxHP, so if you keep taking damage and relying on estus you eventually end up with only 50% of your original HP, getting easily one shot. To recover this, you just sit at the bonfire equivalent.

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>>167337516
We don't take kindly to people who don't take kindly 'round here.

>>167337242
Pretty sure everybody expected them to patch boss invasions. It's only largely a coincidence that BC works to counter it.

It only remains to be seen whether or not they'll actually re-add the feature later in a balanced manner. I don't expect them to, but I'll be pleasantly surprised if they do.

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>>167337590
It also did the same thing for the stamina and mana meters, though. And the first covenant in the game had an item that cured the max hp/stamina/mana penalties.

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>>167337484
>Doing pinwheel early is a thing almost no one does
the "overpowered in 10 minutes" ds1 video has 2,218,169 views
"almost no one", my ass
>you can't even be backstabbed
you can, learn pivot stabs
ds3 estus is also so pathetic a single weapon combo not only can nullify it, but force the host to lose more HP than he was before healing
the only thing i would change about the current system is make the full estus animation count as one big instability frame

>>167337073
>20 flasks in ten minutes after starting ds1 is not "little" unbalanced, anon
To do this you need the skill/knowledge to get down to the catabombs without a divine weapon and beat pinwheel at level 5, it's not something you're going to do the first time through and you can just NOT do that if you don't want to

all players have to deal with lifegems or DS3 estus.

either way you're missing the point, having a set amount of healing items for each area means they can actually fucking balance/design the enemy encounters to take into account how much healing the player will likely have. needing to find items to power up your flask messes this up entirely because now instead of being able to design bosses under the assumption that you can get hit 4-5 times and heal, they have to assume you can only get hit once without a boss that potentially feels cheap

>>167337556
don't post my own webms, fuckboy
ds2 netcode is the worst in series
doesn't mean bb's netcode wasn't without its faults, especially for something with extremely narrow timing like heal parries

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>>167337750
The fact that Darklurker didn't have it as a mechanic left me salty to this day.

>>167337862
They all had their own faults, and they were all faulty in largely the same way. This is because all but DS2 use the same fucking engine, which has remained largely unchanged for seven years.

>>167337839
>having a set amount of healing items for each area means they can actually fucking balance/design the enemy encounters to take into account how much healing the player will likely have
and this is what they did for ds3
for more than 50% of the game you only have access to total 8-9 flasks at most, each of them restores 300-400 HP at best
meanwhile ds1 was an unbalanced fuckfest with no actual difficulty curve

>>167338004
>for more than 50% of the game you only have access to total 8-9 flasks at most
exactly AT MOST, because the developers DO NOT KNOW how many actual flasks you have picked up.

You keep going "b-but DS1" when I specifically said that DS1 did it poorly, which doesn't change the fact that EVERYONE having 5 estus and only upgrading to another tier(s) of estus using a common item instead of finding heart containers is an objectively better system that lets them make the game hard but fair (and lets the player set their own subtle difficulty level by just not kindling) instead of just a random fuckfest of difficulty and joke encounters with no rhyme or reason because they have no baseline to set anything on.

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Miyazaki thinks you're a good gajin and so wants you to introduce a new covenant in DLC2, What will you do?

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>>167338004
I second this, i put off DaS1 for a long time because of horror stories about the crazy difficulty.

I only tend to die to glitches and bugs, The difficulty is getting through the game without being fucked over by its messy design.

>>167337839
what about blood vials

>>167335743
>humans don't have genetic diversity to begin with
Yes we do. Don't be dumb. The whole dog analogy is stupid though. The reason pure bred dogs have problems is centuries of in-family breeding to get the desired genetic traits. It's not the same as breeding within the same ethnicity or nationality or whatever. I'm not anti-race mixing, by the way.

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Does anyone know what chime/talisman Yuria uses, if she even uses one?

>>167338204
A boss invasion covenant tied to one boss

Something like the rat covenant in dark souls 2, but more extensive(more trap focused)

>>167338204
green phantoms that can use a green eye orb to invade any location from anywhere in the game world but costs souls to use and halves your maximum health pool

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>>167337750
If they add boss invasions as a legitimate mechanic but neither add Sin/Blue Orbs nor bring back Gravelords my salt will never, ever end

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>>167338204
weeaboo covenant, you can only join if you are an honorable souls player who never summons

at max ranked you can reverse invade dishonorable players and summon them to a duel world

Should you go str/int or dex/int if you're gonna do a caster build in DS3?

>>167338181
i'm pretty sure developers took actual max flask amount into account instead of working with lower numbers because estus shards ain't exactly hidden
wast majority of userbase has great troubles going through areas even with max amount of healing power allowed in them, i've seen this during countless invasions
ds3 estus system allows to make difficulty curve much more controllable than with "max estus per bonfire" system, and i don't see a way they could balance that one

>>167338207
>>167338004
>h-h-h-h-heh y-y-y-yea i only died to bugs and glitches im so 1337 for this hardcore game is 2ez
kys

>>167338484
>caster build
>leveling dex or str

Just meet the lowest requirements of any weapon you want to use and go INT all the way.

>>167338484
you do pure int if you want to be a caster
ds3 is not ds1, you don't need to actually max dex to max casting speed

>>167338479
>forcibly summon someone
I kind of like that.

>>167338204
Abyss Guard: You can invade players as a black phantom (literally colored black, not the mechanic from the first two games). Black phantoms are overall weaker than a red/purple (less HP, less damage, -1 Estus after halving), and don't aggro mobs like reds, but you can chase hosts into boss rooms and fight on the side of the boss. They won't draw aggro from bosses, but can still be hurt by boss attacks if they're in the way.

Lore reason is, "Prevent other Ashen Ones from defeating bosses, so that they cannot reach the Kiln of the First Flame."

>>167332382
Any other tips?

>>167337759
He actually did have the chance to roll there and hornet BS, spcieally smaller ones like daggers and rapiers, are confirmed faster than regular ones. You couldn't do the things in the webm with other weapons.

Go watch a friend or anyone actually play through DaS, they almost never do that. People who do search shit will most likely use drake sword and grass crest, just look into that video's comments to see most people didn't play like that because it's not worth it. And then they'd still need to farm humanity. A player who is good enough to clear that will simply speedrun the first areas and kill Gargs and Quelaag in less than an hour, because that's worth more of their time. A bad player wouldn't be able to do what he does in the video without getting gankraped by skellies.

The main issue though is that healing in 1 is always punishable heavily, outside DB cheaters. Healing in 2 is exclusive to hosts but harder to punish. Healing in 3 means that a player passively walking backwards can get an estus for free with no punishment as soon as you do any action that doesn't force him to roll.

>dlc still has no paired crossbow

>>167338640
That's kind of how the rat covenant worked in DaS2, if you walked into either of the rat areas and matched the SL of a rat covenant member who has the ring on, you get dragged into their world where you can fuck them over with the traps.

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>>167338579
>d-d-dd-dark souls is...a matserpees there cant pssibly be bugs or glitches in myizacky masterpiss

kys faggot

>>167338920
I remember the first time this happened to me, i thought i had been invaded and i was too wary of the host, remembering back now i realise he was trying to direct me through his gantlet he had clearly setup, but like i said i was too wary and the timer ran out eventually sending me back.

>>167333356
It was confirmed that there's more than 2 bosses.

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>>167338207
>I only tend to die to glitches and bugs

>>167338776
>Go watch a friend or anyone actually play through DaS, they almost never do that
i don't care about friends, i presented to you a single fact: a video detailing how to get 20 flasks at the very beginning has more than 2 million views
you can't do anything with this fact, it's enough to prove that this strat is extremely popular
> that a player passively walking backwards can get an estus for free
nobody gets free healing in ds3 unless you allow them to by doing some action that allows them to gain distance
and if you do, this means you're simply bad at punishing estus in ds3
any time someone tries to heal in my face in ds3 he gets a 700 damage combo from millwood axe or gets fucked by vestiges, it doesn't matter how much flasks they have, i can easily burn through all of them

>>167338204
>equip covenant sign, be auto-summoned into special, otherwise inaccessible area
>area is big and resembles new londo
>populated with darkwraiths, sorcerers, and 1-2 miniboss monsters that attack players
>run around in area killing other players who spawn
>get rewards for every player killed, get sent home when killed
>new players are constantly summoned in, up to six players per area at once
>covenant rewards are a variant dark hand that steals the ember status from another player while invading, and a weapon that inflicts hollowing on other players with its weapon art

>>167339131
>replying to this garbage

>actually netting wins with a lightning buffed whip

This is a meme right? Also, a charged R2 destroys fucking projectiles.

>>167339131
>three bosses in the image

It was only "confirmed" that the "criticisms were heard".

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>>167338204
>Gravelord Servants 2: Electric Boogaloo - Nito is Mad as Hell Edition
>Instead of simply using Eyes of Death and waiting, you actively invade a world as an intangible phantom that can buff specific enemies and make them stronger and more aggressive, or spawn new ones in a limited fashion. The host has no means of interacting with you until he finds the fissure from which you entered his world from, at which point you lose all Gravelord abilities and fight like a regular phantom but with less Estus. If the host has phantoms fighting by his side, you gain a respective increase in the number of enemies you can have buffed or summoned at a time.

Bonus Idea: You start with no Estus Charge, but gain +2 charges for each charge the host or its phantoms consume while they try finding your mark.

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>>167337107
>needing to dartcast buffs
>whining that your favorite weapon a shit without glitches
How's about you jsuf git gud?

>>167339389
-Are there only 2 bosses?
-We can't say, but criticisms were heard ;)

Man I dunno

>>167339558
I said NEW covenant you fucking pleb

>>167339560
How about From stop sucking so much at balance?

The Demon Greataxe does 300 damage each hit at soft capped AR and almost never combos.

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>>167339760

>start a new character
>decide I'm gonna use great hammers/maces and just pancake niggers all day
>it's fun
>everything dies so easily
>I can break the AIs poise for once
>but only 3 great hammers can be buffed/infused
>they all look like shit


God dammit

>>167339753
It's like everyone forgot the AoA hype already.

>>167339848
>greatmace looks great
>it's worse than the great club in every single aspect
>vordt mace looks great
>it's worse than the great club in every single aspect
>takes 9~12 hits to frostbite someone

epic

Reminder.
>1010 Shisai
>1100 DarkKnight
>1105 DarkKnight_Avatar
>1120 MoujaKnight (Mouja means "Dead")
>1330 morinobannnin_taiken (Something like "Forest Guardian")
>2000 BlackWolf
>5020 CrimsonBat
>5120 SnakeSoul
>5190 RuinCapitalKing
>5230 MatherDoragon

>>167338484
Get min stats for whatever weapon you want. I'd recommend MLGS, which takes 16/11.

Pure caster builds are pretty shit in DS3, though. It's not like DS1 where you actually got some breathing room to hit with spells, shit just never stops running at you and attacking in DS3.

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>>167340027
>snakesoul

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>>167340027
>SnakeSoul

>>167340039
I wouldn't say that, you have less breathing room but on the other hand the removal of spell charges makes you able to use magic a lot more consistently. It's still pretty fun, although probably not as strong as Pyromancy can turn into.

>>167340132
>>167340138
It's apparently the soul of the first snake (failed dragon) or something and you sacrifice (burn) it to summon the ultimate/ancient hero warrior something.

Why japanese is so convoluted

>>167340354
>if its complex it must be good

>>167340039
>Pure caster builds are pretty shit in DS3
Pure caster playthroughs are the easiest pve runs in DS3, the hell you're talking about anon.
There's two typical mistakes people do with DS3 casters and both of them are related to trying to play them like they play melee builds: not assigning enough blue flasks to destroy everything on your paths and actually trying to engage enemies in melee distance instead of using alluring skulls, hidden body, rapport and other things to maintain distance to save yellow flasks exclusively for clutch healing.

>>167340027
>>1010 Shisai
>>1100 DarkKnight
>>1105 DarkKnight_Avatar
source: your ass hole?

>>167339340
>Charged r2 destroys projectiles
What do you mean? Snapping arrows in mid air? Or it's long range?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m2a2dLdZ0M

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>>167340354
>it's another fucking npc boss

I hope you're memeing me.

>>167340039
Pure caster isn't a build, it's a playstyle. Even a sorcerer with base str/dex can equip a rapier.

>>167340354
That doesn't make much sense, one would think Seath would be the first "failed dragon".

>>167340601
If I had to guess I would say it's the item you burn to get the new arena and that's it.

>>167340027
>>1010 Shisai
what's that?

>>167340692
priest

>>167340354
>first snake is used to summon ultimate hero
Pic related

>>167340692
Priest

>>167340509
>>167340692
Newfags, it was datamined ages ago.
Also:
>1274 SumataNakadashi
>1283 MarudonTheAssassin
>3495 PainOfAges
>7248 GaelRorikonKnight
>1488 DemonOfFeces

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>>167340781
Forgot pic

>>167340846
you forgot the last line
>1821 DoragonzureiPurūmu

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>>167339848
>great wooden hammer
>looks like shit
Repent.

>>167340530

Someone through a chaos orb and it just disappeared when I let go.

>>167339978
I really wanted to use vordts weapon but it truly is ass

>>167341157
It becomes okay if you tumble buff it with frost weapon

>>167341112
What the fuck?

>>167340509
this info was posted back in may by a guy who also datamined a bunch of other shit
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/image/InQdu-lW6cleO4uga-k00A/

guys - I want to give my fugs a rest for a bit.
what other great weapon should I use that feels different? I keep hearing greataxe is amazing. any of you have opinion on the greataxe?

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>>167341443
Its a great axe.

>>167340846
>DemonOfFeces
Probably Monstrosity of Sin
>GaelRorikonKnight
Gael, obviously
>PainOfAges
Pus of Man, or something like it
>MarudonTheAssassin
GEE, I WONDER
>SumataNakadashi
Wasn't there a set of unused cloth armor that mentioned some vaguely japanese dude?
>MatherDoragon
I don't even know. Mother dragon?
>RuinCapitalKing
Wolnir? Something related to the Profaned Capital
>SnakeSoul
Not all of these are enemies? Some are items? That complicates things.
>CrimsonBat
That's the one with the cut model that looks like the trailer demon, right? Guessing he fell in with Carthus
>BlackWolf
God damn it, not another wolf boss
>morinbannnin_taiken
My weeb is not strong enough for this
>MoujaKnight
Londor Knights
>DarkKnight_Avatar
Darkwraiths in new clothes
>DarkKnight
More Darkwraiths
>Shisai
Londor priest

>>167341443
it's indeed amazing if you can work around its range
extremely solid damage and HA

>>167341443
It's good but you have to learn to use the warcry R2 uncharged and charge accordingly and that can be difficult

One important thing is that while doing the charged warcry moveset you can change direction in crazy ways even if that makes your legs go macaroni.

Like all other ultra weapons save vertical ugs, if the opponent is ultra passive or has quickstep, just change weapons, you have no hope.

>>167341443
Short range and high stamina costs, but quick and deals a lot of damage.

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>>167341563
>DemonOfFeces
>Probably Monstrosity of Sin
>GaelRorikonKnight
>Gael, obviously
>PainOfAges
>Pus of Man, or something like it
>MarudonTheAssassin
>GEE, I WONDER
>SumataNakadashi
>Wasn't there a set of unused cloth armor that mentioned some vaguely japanese dude?

>>167329240
Anyone want to Co-OP Some DkS? Pls :3

Sign is down at blighttown first bonfire, sl 33, I can also go to you!

>>167341443
BKGS, bait people into trading for a space launch.

>>167341157

They should've given it the very quick thrust move Vordt does.

>>167341443
P R O P A N E D


The memesword of Farron is pretty good when you play unlocked, also people don't expect R1s when their opponent is weilding that UGS.

>>167341672
You're the one being memed here

Demon of Feces is the japanese name of the big hippos at the profaned capital mansion.

>>167341443
Greataxe's only shortcoming is that it's well, short. Other than that you can massive AR and shieldbreak. Its also buffable and gives guaranteed two hit combos in pvp which are usually worth 75% of another players health. That said, Yhorms does the same thing but longer and stronger.

>>167341716
they should've made it a mace with poke r2

>>167341387
>snakesoul
>listed as npc

Okay, then what's with >>167340354

Anybody at Aldritch on pc? If someone could summon me that would be great, I need dem sunlight medals

>>167341763
And the english name for them was monstrosity of sin.

Holy shit, I actually guess correctly. Cool.

>>167338914
>expecting creativity in Memeahacki Souls

Do I necessarily need to play the first two games before I start DS3? managed to pick it up pretty cheap just wondering if I'd be missing out on anything

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>>167341523
>Its a great axe.
I see what you did there.
>>167341579
>>167341608
thanks for the tips/info
>>167341616
I hear about he high stam - ill be keeping end at 40. since it indeed has short range I could always make that up with an offhand or crossbow.
>>167341720
naw I don't want another ugs, wanted to mix up my weapons so I'm going axe.
>>167341769
indeed however I cannot buff or infused yhorms weapon. id like to play with variety with the ax

>>167341698
>doesn't say plataform

>>167341924
>doesn't say SL or password

>>167341956
ds3 is a direct sequel to ds1, so yes, playing in ds1 is strongly advised
skip ds2

>>167341956
>Do I necessarily need to play the first two games before I start DS3?
Nope, you're fine. The story is only there if you go looking for it.

>>167341956
Yeah, you're missing 2 games on the series you spastic
What's everyone's rush with just playing the latest game in the series straight away?

>>167341974
Your biggest edge against Yhorm's is WA moveset. LEARN to use it.

For practical purposes, Yhrom's is better in almost every way, but you with enough skill you can compensate that.
It's also very solid at 40 str if you want to 40 vit for that ridiculous poise.

>>167341984
The soul level don't matter if we put a password no? Level is 61 and uprade is +7, the password would be dsg I guess, I am just waiting for someone to confirm

>>167340846
>GaelRorikonKnight
kek

About the theory that the people depicted in the painting of Friede's boss fight are two of the three sisters that are leading the Sable Church of Londor, could the sword the left one holds be the morion blade you get from Yuria?

Best early game wizard weapon in DeS that isn't the Crescent Falchion?

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Where to from here with a pve quality build? Just finished Painted World.

How much poise I need with greataxes to don't get raped by claymores?

>>167342348
It's probably Yuria's weapon, darkdrift.

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>>167342348
Do you have the image? Did the sword look kind of like this?

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>>167340027

>>167342401
Endurance to 40.

>1280x720

Im preparing two character for the upcoming dlc, should I keep them at sl70 pr 75?

>>167342630
>that mask

YES

YEEEEEEEEES

>>167342348
The pale shades have moron blades, its presumebaly a mass produced weapon.

>>167342401
Buff up that Endurance and Vitality for chrissake.

If you're 2-handing you can leave Strength as it is for now.

>yfw the next Londor Sister uses fist weapons

>>167342662
60 or 70 yes.

>>167342630
I NEED THAT MASK

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>>167342579
Nevermind, turns out I had it.

That looks more like an estoc to me. The black fire at the bottom is an odd touch, though.

>>167342630
Which one is this?

>>167342630
Why noone posted it before?

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>>167342348
I'm pretty sure it depicts early time of the londor church so they could still use generic weapons instead of whatever artifacts they found later.
Also the way shadowy figures and hollows stand on that picture is almost exactly the same as they stand in lord of hollows ending.

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>>167342680
>>167342739

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The following statisticalizations of the Big Dragon Blocky have been confirmed to be 100% truthfulness by DSP, a dark souls pillar of community and speedrunning world record holder.

Big Dragon Blocky

105% physical (when you block you drain health from the enemy)
95% magical
-14% lightning
100% fire
75% dark
110 stability (that's right, when you Block an attack using this shield you're actually granted stamina)
10 strength, 14 dex, 50 luck req
WA: quickstep

The demon fist are suitable for a str or a pyro build?

>>167342818
Take a side screenshot you slut

>>167342914
Only for a shit build.

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>>167342858
>50 luck req
>10 strength

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>>167342858
go away

>>167342630
the fuck is that?

cut content?

or just leftover bloodborne assets?

>>167342414
Anyone?

>>167342914
Str

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>>167342630
>>167342818

>>167342579
LONG AGO IN A DISTANT LAND, I, MANUS, THE SHAPE-SHIFTING MASTER OF THE ABYSS, UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKABLE EVIL! BUT A FOOLISH UNDEAD WARRIOR WIELDING A MAGIC SWORD STEPPED FORTH TO OPPOSE ME. BEFORE THE FINAL BLOW WAS STRUCK, I TORE OPEN A PORTAL IN TIME AND FLUNG HIM INTO THE FUTURE, WHERE MY EVIL IS LAW! NOW THE FOOL SEEKS TO RETURN TO THE PAST, AND UNDO THE FUTURE THAT IS MANUS!

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Who the FUCK was responsible for the decision to not use the Steam cloud save feature for DS3 saves?
Thought they'd have fucking learned by now.
Tired of dragging and dropping my save files to my Dropbox.

>>167341984
Oops. PC. Come Co-op!

>>167332953
Not really
It was easy to oneshot someone with backstabs in Demons Souls
The speed of movement and wonky backstabs made it very easy to backstab healers

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>>167342932
Not my pictures. Somebody posted them here, back in May, alongside what this anon>>167340027 mentioned.

>play through DS3 DLC
>2 bosses that can be chain backstabbed to death
What happened?

>>167342003
>skip the game with the best build variety/viability
No wonder DaS3 turned out to be such a piece of shit. Miyasucky realised people don't care about fun.

>>167343563
Yea I just finished the DLC and now I know why everyone was angry about it.

I didn't expect it to be that short.

>tfw steam dead.

Is life still going on as normal outside Lordran?

>>167343804
Yes, look at the lovely land of Dranglaic

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>>167337556
lamo

>>167343707
>Skip the game that has ONLY somewhat decent pvp if you are going for a normal souls playthrough.

All the souls games has good build variety when it comes to pve. Stop getting so fucking triggered.

Is it possible to lvl sunbros covenant in the das2 now?
Or no summons at all on the ps4?
I really need this miracle

>>167343804
in ds1?
maybe, but with regular undead hunts
in ds3?
majority of civilizations are probably in ruins because ds3 kinda happens before Ragnarok of the series, maybe Vinheim survived though, they are a highly organized order of mages leading an army of thugs and killers

>>167343963
>DaS3
>pve cleric build
lol

>>167344115
You can still cancel heals so it's good.

>>167344115
>gnaw => dorhys gnawing => great lighting spear => sunlight spear
yes?

>Sir Alonne
Wow, this boss would actually be fun if I didn't have to do this fucking stupid gauntlet of a Alonne knights each attempt.

Plus the boss area is cool-looking but the gauntlet looks like absolute shit. You can definitely see where all the time went on the design of this area.

>>167343563
>friede
use greatbow, boss literally cannot move.
>beat boss
>no goblet
>get flail
>from some how forgot to port over the BB flail moveset, but copy pasta'd some boss movesets
>make it 1/10 of the size and give it the small hammer moveset

hurts the most

>>167344209
Any spell you make from the soul of the final boss is not a pve spell.

>>167342484
>>167342579
>>167342778

I think the hand guard looks a lot like the one of the morion blade

>>167344209
Bleed gnawing is useless against half of shit and sunlight spear is too expensive
Compare it to the mage who can clear almost any zone by spending only 2 full manabar

>>167344370
it can be used in ng+ so it's a pve spell

>>167344412
>Bleed gnawing is useless against half of shit

I doubt that, but even so that other half you can beat with your mace.

>>167344412
>leed gnawing is useless against half of shit
good to know you never used it
bleed is overpowered in ds3, dark damage is overpowered in ds3, gnaw spells do both

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>>167344294
reminder that we finally got a "flail" in a souls game and it just had a copy pasted hammer moveset

>>167344412
Spoken like a person who has never used gnawing in PvE. DG kills all normal enemies in one cast, kills large enemies in about three casts, and bleeds bosses in 2-3 hits. It's just bleed from a safe distance.

Would there be a problem to level up to 140 instead of 120?

I usually invade at gank fest Pontiff anyway, which I assume are mostly made up of level 120s or so.

>>167344006
Catarina doesn't seem to be doing particularly badly either from what I remember

>>167344412
Lmao lurn 2 paladin fagot
Sunlight spears and lightning stake, all day erry day

So help me out here, /dsg/:

Dragonslayer' Axe:
>raw infusion, only requires 18/14
>damage not affected by the 1.5x str modifier so you're actually best off using it 1 handed, freeing you up to use offhand stuff at all times
>does a ton of damage
>since 1H and 2H damage are the same, does a ton of riposte damage too
>can be buffed with resin/bundles

>short as fuck
>I mean really fucking short, like if people are passive and running away forever it's nearly impossible to roll catch them with this thing due to the reach

Butcher's Knife
>long as FUCK (literally like twice to length of other axes when looking at the portion of the weapon that sticks out in front of your hand)
>no I mean seriously, even longer than gotthards
>no really it's long as fucking hell, I don't think you understand
>gain a pretty serious amount of health from the sharpen buff, when 2H'd it's like 50 HP per swing
>actually surprisingly reasonable to block with while 2 handed if you invest into END a bit

>need to 2 hand it because of how important the 1.5x str modifier is, not a great riposte weapon as a result
>have to invest into str to get damage out of it
>with the right stats (27 str), 2H and sharpen, does around the same damage as raw DS axe but you don't get to put resin/bundles on top so you're missing out on around 95-120 AR.
>sharpen only lasts 25 seconds and the animation takes a few seconds to apply each time

Which is better? I'm torn, I love both. Like, the raw DS axe is better in pretty much every way except the length, but holy shit that length is SUCH a big deal.

>>167344565
>and bleeds bosses in 2-3
Only ones who are weak to the bleed, like dancer
And there literally only 3 bosses who are weak to the bleed

>>167344412
>bleed gnawing is useless against half of shit
And the other half is extremely weak to it. Check resistances and go nuts.

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>>167341956
Yes. At least play DS1. It's my favourite game of all time and I'm sure it's in many peoples top 10.

That's not to say DS3 is a bad game by any means, it's still a top tier 9/10, but DS1 is something special.

>>167344694
No, two hits is for the bleed weak ones. Three hits is for everything else, up to and including soul of cinder.

Dorhy's is actually kind of broken after the buffs made it usable.

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>Still playing this garbage

Lmaoooooooooooo

>>167344694
>And there literally only 3 bosses who are weak to the bleed
you are literally retarded
bleed is powerful against anything but Voldt, Greatwood, Wolnir, Demon king, Dragonslayer and those have other weaknesses clerics can exploit
stop spouting bullshit, retard

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>>167340027
>5230 MatherDoragon
I have a feeling that the currently unused Ancient Dragon Shield will be a boss weapon from the the egg girl (the egg is probably a dragon egg).

>>167344847

I won't be come Tuesday :^)