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Muneshige Tachibana Edition

>Countdown:
3 days, 12 hours, 43 minutes and 25 seconds

>New Information:
You can gain glory from killing revenants, these glory points are used for unique items/disguising yourself as another character
You can summon story NPCs such as Ginchiyo or Hanzo to complete levels with you
Various factions based off historical Sengoku period houses exist for you to join, they each have unique stat benefits, rankings and weekly "faction battles"

>Various images and video from an incomplete playthrough:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2kimuai3qvfpt58/AABlTxra7Hl9wdxWX1xNuLPZa?dl=0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXDi0AdgXOQ [Embed]

http://pastebin.com/VEHby7kd
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IZA
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thanks m8
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>>167317060

Thanks m8, please let this general happen the game is out not officially but people have access to stuff

I'm dropping this here for anyone who doesn't care about spoilers

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2kimuai3qvfpt58/AABlTxra7Hl9wdxWX1xNuLPZa?dl=0
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Mission 15 boss
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New spirit, Yatagarasu

I don't think there are many spirits left
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>>167317930

There are 20 spirits I think, how many have you collected?
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6th and final region

>>167318031
17
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Mission 17. It's the mission Polygon and other sites played a couple of weeks ago I believe.
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>>167318676
16, sorry
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>>167318676
How many hours in are you? Are you completing all the side missions as you go?
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>>167318784
40 hours. Done every sub mission and dojo mission in the game so far.
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There is 19 main mission including epilogue.
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>>167318843
But not any twilight missions, right?
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>>167318843
Since you seem to actually be quite good at this, I'll add on another 10 hours for plebs like me.
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that nobunaga and yuki onna fight where they hang rape you is annoying as fuck.
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>>167319847
save me
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>>167319486
Not yet. I'm was waiting for a 100+ mission and luckily today there is one so I'm going to try it later
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>>167319486
Does kid William make any appearances in the game besides the brief glimpses when you die with no guardian?
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>>167320040

Use sloth
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>>167320250
the talismans or is this some GS that i dont know of, cause i think i have them all
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>>167320402

Talisman.
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Appearantly you have female skins in this game.

Someone got ginchiyo.
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Mission 16 boss

Also, be prepared that if you go katana, onmyou buff stacking and heavy armor you're breaking the game.
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>>167320765
You need to be in NG+, but this is confirmed.
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please someone post a picture of sukazu's stats I must see them
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New spirit, Izuna
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>>167320765
>>167320837

PROOF
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Mission 17

>>167321021
I've posted 18 of them including Suzaku, try archives?
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>>167321021
Never mind, they're most likely on /v/.

Here you go
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>>167321916
I guess I'm going to do twilight missions now, main story is pretty much over soon
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>>167322280
>>167321916
thanks i love you
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>>167321263
seconding this
only thing keeping me from a preorder tbqh
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>>167323371
>>167322578
Alright, Imma settle this. I'm on NG+

Here's what I got on it so far
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>>167323717
Maybe it unlocks when i beat the 3 areas it gives me in NG+, but im not sure.

I get one shot by everything, cause my gear is bad
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>>167323717
>>167323787
>Kelley and Nobunaga confirmed
fucking diamonds
if there's even just one waifu playable before any DLC that's it, this is goty
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what are the confirmed rarity types?
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>>167324281
Common (white), uncommon (yellow), rare (blue), exotic (purple), divine (green)

divine is only from NG+
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>>167324374
thanks
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>>167317862

>A gasha-dokuro is actually in the game

Fucking awesome
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>tfw not good enough for flux or combos
i played 90% of the demo in one stance and never used living weapon either
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Mission 17 boss, what a pushover
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New spirit, Atlas Bear
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>>167326773
>the dark samurai
lmao
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>>167326952
>150 hp per grapple
don't you START with 1k hp?
sounds like trash
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Man, I can't wait to play through all 10 missions.
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>>167325907
Who's this XLHGladiator faggot? Those watermarks are really obnoxious.

Like I've seen them during alpha, beta, and the last stand demo, its always the same couple webms, and every time I see the watermark with its almost commic sans tier of awful font and that gay pink/purple color scheme I just cringe, I can't help but think this is some edgy 13 year old pretentious cunt.
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New spirit, Genbu

Got 20 spirits now, I believe that's all?
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>>167327452
i literally made this webm like an hour ago and haven't made any others of this dude

i assume it's because he was the only guy testing the mechanics, while everyone else was fucking around in the beta
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>>167327634
>i literally made this
>i assume it's because he

Dude what? XLHGladiator faggot? Those watermarks are really obnoxious.

Like I've seen them during alpha, beta, and the last stand demo, its always the same couple webms, and every time I see the watermark with its almost commic sans tier of awful font and that gay pink/purple color scheme I just cringe, I can't help but think this is some edgy 13 year old pretentious cunt.
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Here are all the levels i currently have unlocked, pre-NG+

one of the screenshots got fucked cause i didnt realize i highlighted a level, but whatever. too lazy to fix it
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>>167327781
>40~ missions and side missions total (Are those ship icons just trips or missions?)

>17 main missions (Large red envelope?)

I mean, what happened to the whole 20 main missions and 100 side-missions?
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>>167328062
There are about 38 sub missions, if you notice there are 1-2 sub missions on a red story mission as well. There are also about 10-15 Dojo missions
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>>167327491
Likely.
There will be more spirits in the DLC.
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>>167328062
There are 19 main missions, the two red boats are main missions.
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>>167328062
I guess they rounded up to get 20.

For side missions they no doubt include twilight missions to that number.
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>>167328797
>For side missions they no doubt include twilight missions to that number.
Even then, they'd be over 20 missions short.
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>rolls away 3 times and 2 shots you while at 0 Ki
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>>167327781
This includes the extra mission that comes after the final boss, right?
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>>167328934
>throw a sloth at him
>fight is over in a flash
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The mystic art instant cast onmyou is so good.
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Mission 18
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What's the highest anyone has gotten any of the Unlimited traits? I saw someone say on /v/ that it could only go up to 50. Is that true?
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>>167329450
Bruh, you break one of those castle walls off, and you got enough amrita to hit level 500.
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>>167329532
i tried that when i went through it., it didnt work, though the level does give you 2 companions so you can use them to help you grind enemies till youre satisfied.
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>>167329112
there is literally nothing honorable about this
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>>167329802
The quest is literally about being strong enough to defeat the duo, to prove you are as good as the Nioh.

Well Hanzo, i guess I really did become, Nioh
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3 and a half days until release I made this picture to represent my emotions
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So "unlimited x%" is what, an x% chance for them not to consume ammo when used?

And does the Parry affix buff blocking like the tooltip says?
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>>167329963
For the first question, yes. I have the Iga set equipped which gives me fuck tons of ninjutsu and some accessories for more ninjutsu. so once in a while it just procs so it doesn't use my consumable ninjustsu

>throwing like 50 kunai at a boss

ninjutsu.


I'm not entirely sure what the second question is.
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>>167330102
Is it possible to stack unlimited 90%-100% if you specialize? Like what's the highest % you saw, because I know every piece of gear except for melee weapons can roll unlimited.
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>>167330179
I only have around 40% I don't know if i can bump it higher, I'll try later and post results.

accessories can roll them too. so in theory it could go higher, but I'm not sure if there's a cap.
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so are we getting this waifu deconfirmation or not
I really want to go to sleep
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>>167330102
Did you max out ninjitsu? Is there a skill that lets you blow yourself up?
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>>167330179
i'd assume it would have a cap, otherwise getting to like 90% unlimited elixir would make you have basically infinite while everyone else has like 5
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>>167330179
I mean in the beta I saw a 13% every so often, if you have that plus a spirit it's at that number.

>>167330102
For the second question, there's a weapon affix called Parry that says it reduces ki usage while blocking and has nothing to do with actual parrying. I wanted to know if it's an error or what.
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>>167330341
unfortunately I haven't seen any ninjutsu where i kill myself. just pills and shit.

>>167330381
oh that. I'm pretty sure that's just less stamina used when blocking attacks. not sure why its called parry.
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>>167330373
I'm thinking more like omniyo/ninjutsu/ammo

I've seen 25% unlimited arrows on a bow in the demo. I don't know if every set can roll it, but I know for a fact archer set can roll it, i've seen 13% but lets go with 10% just to be nice and rounded, with 5 pieces of armor that's 75% along with the bow, and that still leaves two charms. if you manage to roll 13% on each one (And charms seem to be able to roll highest numbers so they can probably go up to at least 25% as well) that would mean, technically, with a lot of luck and rerolling you could end up with infinite arrows.

Elixirs probably have lower value, I seriously doubt you'd be able to roll infinite healing as high as you would infinite ammunition, but I"m wondering more about consumables for the sake of specific runs like ranged only with bows/shurikens/kunai etc...
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>>167330639
There are spirits with 10 or 15% unlimited (whatever), I think.
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>>167330665
>the bat with the iga set


awww yeah
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>>167330665
Didn't some of the clans also have unlimited?

I'm sure there would also be some named sets with it as a bonus.

It seems like if you decided to specialize for unlimited something ,you'd be able to get a 100% proc rate.
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>>167327781
2 questions if you wouldn't mind.

How's the glowy stuff? Like, are there glowly bits armors/helmets other than the Ogress/Onryoki headpieces?

And does NG+ change anything?
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>>167327165
>sounds like trash
Clearly you don't know how lifesteal/recovery works in RPGs.

You gain a decent amount by stacking it through different abilities and gear bonuses.

No one individual thing will give you a good value on its own.
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>>167330532
How about that one use bomb the one that explodes into more explosions, how long does it stay useable. In the last chance I had a lot of fun using that on enemies.
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>>167331426
even if you stacked it to restore a whopping 1/3rd of your hp at a decent level, it still has nothing on other bonuses you could have instead
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Mission boss 18.

Holy shit, Oda has the coolest spirit, a peacock
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>>167332401
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>>167332401
OH SHIT ITS HIM
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Another spirit, Tengen Kujaku
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wait so some streamers have the game but aren't allowed to play the story mode? how does that work? only side mission content?
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>>167329958
I hope there are more things like this later on
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>>167332715
no? they just skip cutscenes
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>>167332715
They just have cutscenes skipped
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>>167332637
Does that 22 spr upgrade give you perfect radar? That's pretty neat.
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>>167332778
>>167332781


JUST
and I still have to wait

fugg
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Mission 18 boss 19
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Mission 18 boss 20
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>>167332637
so that's more than 20 now right?
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>>167332637
That reminds me of something. You never get to obtain Otani's spirit (moth girl), or do you?
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>>167333072
>>167333203
spoiler these because they're the final bosses
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>>167333579
dont come here if you dont want spoilers, retardo
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>>167333579
Hello there, reddit.

Go fuck yourself back to your shithole.
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What a fight, that was so fucking good and cool.
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>>167333619
>>167333747
it's not like i'm telling him not to post, you plebs
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>>167333809
As a reward you get all weapon types at divine (green) level 150
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>>167333809
Post epilogue boss.
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What a fucking game. I haven't had this much fun since forever. If this ever comes to PC I'll instantly buy it again for full price.

So good and such a good end.
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>>167334668
>Hanzo again
Disappointed.
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>>167334668

do you get the girl as a usable spirit?
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Last spirit, Saoirse
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>>167335047
>non-japanese spirit
what is this sorcery
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where's the game out/street date broken already?
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would you recomment the game? pros/cons?
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>>167335256
it's shit
just sell the PS4 already
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Can someone spoil the story for me?
With details, please.
Or at least give me a summary.
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>>167335256
the demo was pretty rad
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>>167335256
I would recommend it to anyone who owns a PS4. Even if you're not a Souls fan it's such a good game.

The gameplay, loot/gear/crafting itemization and system, bosses, mechanics, story, spirits and extra stuff such as addition of clans are top notch. The game has a ton of replayability value as well with build diversity.

My main issue is still that I don't like the limited monster variety and the later levels in the game can lack in that area as well.
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How are the diminishing returns for stats? I noticed there were some steep ones for the first few levels but after that it was very steady. Any change when you get up to 99 or whatever the max is?
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>>167334668
Any info for The Queen's Eyes mission yet?
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>>167336856
I got it but I'm doing 2 sub missions I just unlocked
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>>167323717
>they renamed Yasuke from "Dark Samurai" to "Obsidian Samurai"
I don't think that's any better for what you're trying to avoid, TK...
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So for the upcoming DLC, the events of the latter two seem to take place during the 1614 Siege of Osaka and 1615 Siege of Osaka, and for the first if them it seems to involve Date Masamune- my guess is Hasedou, which occurred from right before Sekigahara to right after. Given Hasedou was between the Mogami-Date alliance and the Uesugi, and also given the Date served Tokugawa, I wouldn't be shocked if Kenshin shows up as a final boss of that DLC similar to how Nobunaga did or as a yokai like Nouhime or Tsukiyama. And of course at Osaka we'll end up fighting Yukimura.

Fighting the "God of War" and "Crimson Demon of War"... Pretty hype.

>>167335164
Atlas Bear is an African spirit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_bear
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What an annoying fight, easily the hardest so far
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>>167338816
I was wondering about that actually
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Oda's set tho, going to farm him for helm and gloves
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>>167339257
how does this game do item progression? like is there a point in farming a set or is it just invalidated by drops from mooks from the next area?
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>>167339257
all the unique crap in this game is top tier
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>Oda called himself demon king of the sixth heaven
Was Oda the original chuuni?
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>>167339721
he's everyone's favorite original chuuni, at least
and yes I'm aware of the context of this, it's just an example
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Another one but not as hard

>>167339474
No point in farming if you're going through the game. You might get a couple of good items with good stats that you can cave over 2 missions or so but generally you find upgrades often
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>>167340005
do you just outgear them at this point or what
cause thinking about the demo muneshige and having to fight another faggot on top seems like a nightmare
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>>167340080
You pretty much know the fights in your head and know which attacks to bait etc, quite easy.
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>>167340260
To add: they can still combo you down from 100% health to 0 in 2 seconds if you aren't careful.
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My copy arrived today, just finished the prologue.

>>167335047
If you're reaching the credits soon, can you see who is credited as voice of Saoirse?
Incredibly cool that irish gaelic is featured in the game.
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Can someone elaborate on story, please?
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>>167340518
Kelley tries to bring back Nobunaga
He succeeds but you stop him
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>>167340442
>If you're reaching the credits soon
You get the spirit after the credits.

3 years after, I assume this is the epilogue mission?
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>>167340518
Amrita are magical rocks that grant immense power, MC has a imaginary waifu that can sense it very well.
Bad guy steals the waifu and goes to Japan to gather more magical rocks (apparently they grow quickly in times of war and turmoil) so he tries to make the civil war there as bloody as possible.
MC goes after him, lots of Asian hussies throw themselves at him but he stays pure for his waifu, kills the bad guys and lives together with her happily ever after
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>>167340608
Can you tell me his reasoning and what else happens in the story?
Spoil my shit up, I need it.
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>>167340824
Is there anything of interest happening or the story is this simple and clean?
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>>167341089
The backdrop of the story is the buildup to and the Battle of Sekigahara, bloodiest battle fought on Japanese soil. So there's a bit more to it than Will's story, yes.
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>>167335219
Anyone?
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>>167341089
It's one part Japanese history lesson and one part weeaboo power fantasy.
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Do all Status Effects work on bosses? I'm tempted to go with 1kat / Ninjutsu since Onmyo magic is so overpowered, and it would be nice to know if Paralysis works on bosses since it seems like a nice build. I understand if no one knows though, the game is not even out yet.
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>>167342603
is that the queen of england?
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>>167342603
>Not Izanami
Oh, so Queen I guess referred to Elizabeth
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>>167332301
Good for you.
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NG+

You can switch freely between NG and NG+. Also that level 240 twilight mission
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>>167343165
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didn't they fix the mark of the conqueror thing? I still only have mark of the strong in my dlc thing under nioh
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You can enhance your Guardian Spirits in NG+ with Amrita
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>>167343312
Holy fuck. I wanted to have a whole bunch of different characters for different builds, but it seems like I'll need to focus on one so I can actually do those levels.
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>>167343465
pretty nice

>>167342809
Status effects work on bosses.
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>>167343668
>>167343465
>>167343312
>>167343165
>>167342603
>>167340824
>>167340725
>Had to open images in Tor, gives me 404 on every other browser.

What the fuck?
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>>167343358
I googled it and apparently there was a tweet from Sony that said it'll be fixed when the game releases if you have one or the other.
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>>167342809
don't know about paralysis but if you apply to elemental effects to someone they get a 3rd status effect that is super strong.
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>>167343776
ah neat
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>>167343768
4chan's image server has been on-and-off fucked for like a month now
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This has been one of the better and most fun games I've played in years.

Go order the game if you still are not sure.
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>>167343668
that seems like a super high cost for not that much of an increase.
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>>167344184
>he was a marketer all along
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>>167344253
Thing is that when you reach level 100+ most stats has reached soft caps
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>>167344184
Look at those dick sucking lips and secudctive eyes on Saorise.

You think she's not Wiliam-sama's personal cock sleeve?

Nigga please.
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>>167344253
i think in bloodborne i had like, 25+ million souls on my chalice coop character. that shit gets really out of control when you're done leveling and you keep playing
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Am i able to start the download for digital version before the 7th? and if so, what time?
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>>167344902
digital downloads on psn start 2 days before the release date
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>>167344427
>tfw no flashback mission where you play as kid William.
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can we keep the thread alive until official launch?
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>>167349660
cute
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>>167349660
Sure
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>>167344376
Doesn't seem too hard to get them to level 30 then.
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>>167349768
Was he named?
Is it John Dee?
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>>167350040
I have actually no clue who he is, only what he did

The epilogue brings up quite a few questions
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>>167350040
NIOH 2: AN AMERICAN TALE: WILLIAM GOES WEST
William pursues John Dee across the American Frontier, making friends with native spirits and cryptids.
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>>167338876
did you actually beat this nightmare?

i cant do it, they just fuck me if, if you have any tips?
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>>167350306
oh boy, brace for 30 minute lore videos
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>>167350443
I did but they were really annoying.

I went for Oda first and stacked defensive buffs because their combos are way too deadly. Watch out for when Oda buffs and try to run away until it's gone because I couldn't deal with his hyper armor unless I got a full combo of backstabs.
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>>167351006
that's pretty much how i was doing it, i guess i just gotta get good.

what level were you when you did it?
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>>167351136
Close to 100.
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So will those player graves be available for everyone or just ps+ goys in the full game?
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>>167350415
I want any sequel to involve this guy somehow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasekura_Tsunenaga
>Goes on an expedition to Europe with a European style vessel funded by Date Masamune
>Passes through Mexico (switched boats)
>Arrives in Spain to try and negotiate trade deals, sadly this doesn't work because Japanese lords have started oppressing christians and are about to start their isolation policy
>He leaves 6 dudes behind in Spain (today in southern Spain there is a town with about 600 people with the last name Japon who can trace their lineage back to those 6 dudes).
>Arrives in Rome, has an audience with the Pope and gets painted by a French painter (pic related).
>He goes back to Japan, shows off all the cool souvenirs he got from Europe
>They go "That's nice" and locks it all away in storage and goes into isolation policy and forgets all about it
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What stats for medium armor?
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A question, I've seen some of the Anons playing mentioning farming items like armor sets off bosses, how do you accomplish that? Can you redo missions you have already completed?
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>>167353697
All levels can be done as many times as you want.
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>>167353775
Ah, that's really nice. Thanks for the answer.
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>>167352773
>nioh 2 is about a japanese man traversing spain and italy
pottery
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>>167354006
>tfw Nioh 2 is about young William and Saoirse
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>>167351006
yin-yang debuff rape still works, or no?
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>>167355805
The one Nobunaga uses? It's ridiculous
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>>167349660
Only if leaker bro can post start menus with all the spirits.
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Is Yamato-no-Orochi classified as a spirit? I guess you can't get him since base game has only 22 spirits by the looks of it.
Also, is the Battle of Sekigahara playable in any fashion?
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I suffered through some loud streamer that was bad at the game to confirm there's a model viewer for characters and enemies and detailed descriptions for all of them. Also can rewatch all the cutscenes.
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>>167357365
no
yes
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>>167357365
Sekigahara's the fifth region in the game and it looks like you play through part of the battle, culminating in hunting down Ishida's generals.
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Here's mai waifu.
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>>167357834
Stop posting Nobu
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>>167357834
Here's my Fukutoy
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>>167335047
So, you can play with her in NG+?
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>>167343465
yeeeeees
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>>167335047
>she is both friend and family to him now - perhaps something more

would you fuck a spirit?
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I cannot fucking wait to play it. I will wait until next Friday, though. For maximum comfiness.
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>>167340725
>3 years after, I assume this is the epilogue mission?

>mfw so many missions
>mfw that guy in a thread yesterday was shitposting about how the game only had 10 missions
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>>167358080
Yep. NG+ doesn't function like Souls though. You can switch back and forth between the difficulties in case you missed anything.
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>>167340725
What's the basis for this epilogue? What is the boss background? Can you loot that western armour from the prologue?
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>>167358770
Not him so don't know the first two questions, but you keep the western armor at the start of the game, saw somebody running around one of the first missions in Japan with it
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>>167359278
Sweet
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>>167358770
William goes back to the Tower in London with Saoirse and we find out the Queen has died to depression. Here comes the weird part: William(?) uses the same technique to transform himself like Kelly did and we're looking for the guy behind Kelly. Apparently the Tower was/is a lab to create clones of Kelly(?) with amrita and we find out the guy behind it is a mysterious someone who can see everything. After William slashes his eyes he drops an orb that reveals that Ieyasu didn't create peace, instead war has started again(?)

There's a lot of strange stuff I didn't understand and I'm sure I'm missing something but that's basically it
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any streams where the guy is not a fucking retard screaming at the top of his lungs or doing weird faces for the sake of it?
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can someone explain me the hype for this game ?
>ps3 graphics
>dark souls clone
>shit tier story
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pQ0oO_cDE
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>>167359784
That's.....okay I did not expect that level of craziness from the lore
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I was able to download mark of the conqueror today under the add-ons for the preorder.
You did earn mark of the conqueror, right anon?
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>>167359784
Ieyasu seems like he's portrayed as quite a dick near the end of the game, wonder if you actually fight for the Toyotomis/Sanada in the DLCs.
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>>167359919
By mysterious someone I mean >>167349768
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>>167360053
They said the pre-order Yukimura set will also be avaliable from one of the NPCs in the Season Pass missions, so a fight with the man himself is pretty likely.

Just a quick question for people with early copies; do they delve into the whole Protestant vs. Catholic thing that was a real part of the real-life Adams/James Clavell's Shogun story, or have they avoided that altogether in favour of the Celtic mysticism thing?
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My friend found this today, he pushed him off a cliff.
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>>167360746
you mean this cucktard right here ?
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>>167360746
I need to know if these appear without ps+ as well
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>>167361195
Someone on neogaf with an early copy said he was seeing player graves without PS+
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>>167361195
There are offline NPC ones, so there will always be some.

Player ones, i'm not too sure about. I don't have PS+, but the brazil account from the vita glitch has 300 years. so i dont know if it counts me as having it
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>>167361672
Any word on if coop/torii is possible without it?
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>>167361672
sick

>>167361807
yeah but those are few in between and they seem to be low level compared to the ones the players can leave behind
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>>167354975
You can make a prequel about Dark Samurai
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>Everyone saying how le Axes are bad or not so great tier
>Still can overkill any non-yokai enemy with them

I can make sure of Low stance and Mid stance while being fast as hell as least there's variety
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>>167364826
Go Axe with Enko and high stance. You'll probably overkill Yokai as well in a combo
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>>167356743
The one you apply to enemies when you get two elemental debuffs on them to be active at the same time. It instantly disables their stamina bar, preventing stamina recovery for the duration of the debuff (Even in Yokai realm) and makes all the attacks stun them, even in low stance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSjhD1ikdC8 (See 50 second mark)
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>mfw I just got called a common drunk
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>>167365474
why is that spirit buff not going away?
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>>167365474
Never used it. Nobunaga uses it on you though
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Who voices Nobunaga? Is it Otsuka or Wakamoto?
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>>167365686
You're talking about living weapon?
They restore a small amount with every hit, I had some duration buffs and ki consumption reductions for mid stance, so with each hit I was restoring a couple points more than I was using up.
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>>167365918
I see, thanks
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I love the ledge/fall system.
There is real value to knocking someone down a cliff since they take bonus fall damage from falling, while you can drop down after them relatively safely.
Plus knocking people down and watching them flail like looney tunes is hilarious.
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So can you get the cute Mothgirl spirit? I didn't see Early Copy Anon posting about it.
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>>167368279
yeah, you get it from a late game boss
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Can someone post shinka, tanuki, and kara jishi stats
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>>167368813
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>>167368813
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>>167368813
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Thanks
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>>167365970
Any time m80 pt80.
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Whats your favorite Duel?

I've heard people saying that the 1v1 samurai vs samurai fights weren't as exciting as the big youkai bosses so i wanted to hear you opinion
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Too bad the goofy cat dude is only an advisor and you cant use him as a normal guardian.
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What Clans are you Anons going to join?
http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Clans

Are those listed in the wiki even correct? The Shimazu clan's Ki Regeneration +30% on top of +5% damage seems very overpowered compared to the rest.

Otherwise I would be very tempted to go with the Shima clan's +10% damage on enemies with status effects on them and +10% proficiency bonus (though I'm not sure what exactly proficiency bonus means)
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>>167374793
>+10% proficiency bonus (though I'm not sure what exactly proficiency bonus means)
Bonus damage from weapon mastery.
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NG+ Early game anon.


I noticed the NG+ says a possibility to earn better gear as one of its perks.

Did you get any? Is it just higher gear level, or do they actually get more potent perks?
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>>167375419
I'm not sure, I have heard in other places that it just means you gain Proficiency faster, for those extra skill points, and you don't get bonus damage.
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Which one is the best weapon type?
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>>167376389
That sounds more likely than what I said.
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>>167376951
The one you want, retard.
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>>167376131
Not fun, but I know there's an extra level of rarity that's only available in new game+. Assume the gear level is higher as well
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Been playing the game for roughly 10 hours now, ask me anything.
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Do you get to bang Okatsu in the game?
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>>167381554
>Not fun
Did you typo or are you saying NG+ is not fun?
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>>167381670
how did you get it early?
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>>167374793
I'm a huge Hojo fan so i might go with the Fuuma

Though their stats aren't that interesting
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>>167384185
Same way as half the other people in this thread.

Either he got a review copy, or his store broke the sale date, like a metric crapton of stores in europe did.
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Did anyone finally discover what the Wind status effect does?

Also best armor set coming through
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>>167385957
>Also best armor set coming through
The game isn't even officially out yet, can we at least wait until tuesday to start with the obnoxious "shit that gamers say" garbage?

Please, I'm begging you, I'm so tired of this shit.
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>>167386541
I don't know how showing appreciation for the design of a set of gear equals all that but whatever. Don't get triggered so easily anon.
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>>167386664
>I don't know how showing appreciation for the design of a set of gear equals all that but whatever.

Because its not "What is the best X and why is it Y" level of annoying. Can't you just say "Hey this is a nice armor set" or "This armor set looks really good" Like a normal person, why does everything have to be "OMG DA BEST!"?

>Don't get triggered so easily anon.
I just asked if we could not do this, you're already going on about getting triggered, so I guess you have no intention of being anything but an annoying prick. Whatever do what you want, its not like I expected a bit of decency from a faggot declaring the best shit before even getting the game.
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>>167386938
Okay, let's do this again.

"This armor set looks really good!"

To me that's exactly the same as what I originally said so I don't mind.
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>>167387426
It does look pretty neat. Hope the helm fits with lots of other sets.
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>>167383459
Typo, meant to be "not him"
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If this game releases on PSN at midnight EST does that mean people in other time zones will get it at that time as well? Or do they have to wait until midnight their time? I don't know how Sony normally handles this.
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The amount of additional features is incredible.

I was already hyped as fuck for just the base game and twilight missions.

Now I find out NG+ rebalanced enemy placement AGAIN as well as all theSe new features like ungyo and agyo prestige, upgrading spirits, clans, ai partners and a significant amount of character skins.

Like holy fuck.
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>>167388816
It unlocks at the same time for every one using that region (aka US PSN, EU PSN).
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>>167390158
PST master race gets the game early again.
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>>167390971
I mean if it unlocks at 3pm your timezone it will unlock for everyone using that psn region, no matter their time zone.
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>>167387426
>To me that's exactly the same as what I originally said so I don't mind.
Its not exactly the same, what you just said is an opinion, and a good way to start a conversation, if you originally said I'd say the chest and boots look really good, but I wish there was a version of the headpiece without the veil.

What you said here >>167385957 was shoving a statement down everyone's throat in the most obnoxious confrontational way possible.
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YAMEROOO
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>>167359881
People play souls for the combat.

Nioh has better combat.

Thats it.
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So the known spirits you can use are:
>Kato
>Isonade
>Daiba-washi
>Fuse-ushi
>Mizuchi
>Raiken -> Paired Raiken
>Hi-nezumi
>Aya-komori
>Itokuri
>Enko
>Usura-hicho
>Gyokuto
>Narikama Tanuki
>Shinka
>Yatagarasu
>Suzaku
>Kara-jishi
>Izuna
>Atlas Bear
>Genbu
>Tengen Kujaku
>Saoirse

The spirits you can't use are:
>Oroboros (Kelley's snake, likely wouldn't be usable anyway)
>Nekomata (Seems to be more guide/helper)

Spirit I'm not sure about:
>Moth Girl (anon itt doesn't have her, but someone else said she's gotten from a late-game boss)

Is that about right?

Also, anyone know who the Kato, Isonade, Daiba-washi, Hi-nezumi, Aya-komori, and Suzaku originally belonged to? The others I know who they were owned by before helping out Will, but them, not so much.
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>>167327452
>I can't help but think this is some edgy 13 year old pretentious cunt.
Do you not know which general you're in?
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When will Europeans get the digital preorder theme? On release day?
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Can you post every single guardian spirit's stats again please? If it's too troublesome, may you put it in an imgur album?
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>>167398754
I'm surprised this hasn't been done yet honestly; it should be put into the OP so everyone (incl.) doesn't have to work
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If you choose Isonade, where do you get Daiba-Washi from?
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Can't wait for release. Also, I am getting triggered by all these streamers, who play this like Souls and chat faggots spamming ''no pc no buy'' and ''looks like shitty souls clone :^)''
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>>167398754
I never took a picture of Kato, Isonade, Daiba and Fuse because they were in beta.

http://imgur.com/a/D3ox6
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>>167399739
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>>167399739
Isn't there one missing? It's 22. If you remove the initial ones that would be 19 but this album only provides 18.
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>>167400063
Fuse-Uchi is missing.
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>>167400063
>>167399739

I don't see the Mothgirl either.
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>>167399739
Would you take pictures of those 4 too?
And can you tell me how do you get the other 2 spirits if you choose the other.
Like: Choose Kato
Where do I get Isonade and Daiba?
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>>167394509
Suzaku is owned by Torii Mototada. You get it after you beat Saika Magoichi in Fushimi
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>>167317060
Name 2 other games besides Nioh and bloodborne worth buying a PS4 for

not trolling, i just dont want to feel guilty when i buy one in 2 days soley for nioh
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>>167400063
>>167400120
It's missing 4 because those 4 were in the beta.

>>167400169
I never got the Moth girl

>>167400192
I don't remember where I got those

http://imgur.com/a/TXBbD includes beta spirits
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>>167400508
Thanks. Can you find out where you got them from? Is it listed as rewards from the previous missions?
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if you beat a boss by waiting for it to run out of ki, then stunlocking it with living weapon
did you REALLY beat it?
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>>167401871
you've only beaten a boss once you've utilized all the mechanics of the game to beat it including co-op
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>>167401871
Yokai don't spend ki like humans does, plus they regen like crazy when standing in yokai realm.
You have to go on the offensive with kicks and heavy attacks while quickly cleansing yokai realm whenever they appear to drain a yokai's stamina.
Getting to wail on them is the reward for putting in work.
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NG+ first mission has a couple of new yokai spawns but otherwise it's almost exactly the same, they also have the new movesets that later yokai does. Onryoki had nothing new
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>>167402109
Found a single divine item on the whole run. You can offer Ochoko before you start to mission to increase divine drop rate tho
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Can someone give me a tl:dr explanation on how this Ki mechanic works?
I didn't play any of the tests or demos.
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>>167403131
KI is stamina from Dark Souls. Everytime you do an attack, a portion of it can be regain by pressing R1. Do it perfectly and you get several benefits including cleansing the Yokai portals that are left behind by Yokais that rapidly drain your Ki.
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>>167403131
ki is just energy

think souls, where you use an attack your energy goes down by howevermuch, and that part of the energy stays there for a few seconds. in nioh, theres a little bar that runs up your ki and when it goes back to the start of your bar (i.e. where your ki was before you started attacking) you can press r1 which instantly starts restoring your ki, without having to wait. in addition, it purifies the yokai ground under you

in addition you can do the same, but press r1 when you see the blue energy around you go into you. the method of just looking at your bar is 1000% easier, it just looks super retarded typed out

tldr think of it as energy with some extra mechanics that i listed
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>>167403131
use gears of war active reload to regain stamina after its consumed
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>>167403131
Press R1 to get all your stamina back
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>>167403496
It's L1 for me.
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To the other anon in NG+, what mission is the requirement to clear to get the Twilight mission level 320?
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>>167403705
>level 320
excuse me?
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>>167404257
>he thinks Nioh is going to play by souls conventions for levels
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is this game completely linear in the progression of main missions?
ie; beat mission 1, unlock mission 2, beat mission 2 etc

or do you sometimes unlock 2 main missions at once and get to choose which one you want to do?
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>>167404524
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SOMEONE GIVE ME A FUCKING KEY FOR PS4 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>167404257
Yea NG+ has a 320 mission today
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3 days exactly

Fuck me, hurry up
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>>167405203
'today'?
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>>167404525
main missions are sequential
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>game already has a lot of content in it
>is getting pvp added for free and DLC at a later date
>only real fuck up is with the mob variety

Finally, a game coming out in the west that won't disappoint
It's been like 2 years since this happened
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So level 150 is max on gear but instead divine gear has ranks and familiarity
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>>167406308
>divine gear has familiarity and inheritable bonuses
oh boy, whoever wants to make the "perfect" set has their work cut out for them
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>>167407242
They're expensive as fuck to reforge, around 20-40k for 1 attempt
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>>167406308
>running speed

i need to see how fast you can go with blue equip load + running speed modifier boots + tiger scroll
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So can you go fists only in this game? I must know.
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>>167407871
Yes

And you can 'blade catch' parry people
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>>167407871
yes but it will do absolutely shit for damage until you get the 'increased fist damage' magic buffs but even then you only get a couple per respawn/checkpoint and they don't last long.
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>Cohcarnage
>killed Nur on his 3rd try without the spirit move
compared to Alpha the boss was piss easy
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>>167408308
he was probably at a much higher level and with much better equipment.
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>>167408308
>>167408398
This. Nue is quite easy when you're there, not like alpha
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>>167408308
He played the beta though, hes already fought that boss
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>>167407242
It's going to take a long time and a bit of luck to get what you want
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Is the MC English or Irish. I'm getting mixed messages.
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offer items to shrine or sell to blacksmith? what's the difference
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>>167409120
One gives you amrita and the other gives you money
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>>167408947
>absolute highest weapon scaling in the game is from spirit

wew

seems like kat builds can just pump heart and skill until late game and then respec into spirit
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>>167409104
the description calls him english but irish born after his parents were killed he joined english navy
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>>167409120
dismantle them for components

>>167409104
The character is of Irish heritage in game but spends his adult life in the english navy

The man the character is based off of, William Adams, was English.
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>>167409120
Dismantle

Rerolling effects on weapons consumes a shitload of materials
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>>167409203
>>167409268
So he's a Irishman who moved to england and joined the english navy? Am I right?
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>>167406308
how to increase the rank? I assume that's the +2 how does the defence/effects increase from raising it?
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>>167409394
They drop but when you disassemble Divine gear you get Divine fragments but I can't use them yet. They're most likely for crafting Divine gear or upgrading when you got the schematics.
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A huge tip to new players, put ALL your usable items aside from spirit stones in your storehouse as soon as they max because they don't auto transfer like Elixirs.
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I don't like how strong kato is for a starter spirit, even looking at endgame spirits that req 20+ spirit he seems better
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So what weapon types are the most fun to play?
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Hey guys was the chain sickle nerfed since the beta?
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>>167411302
Can't say I notice any changes since last chance.
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did they make any changes from last change beta/demo ? remove the rock from tachibana fight? anything?
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>>167400405
Ratchet and clank, yakuza 0, Last of us and uncharted if thats your thing, nier automata looks cool.
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So how is Ninjutsu and magic end game? Still strong if you put points into dex and magic?
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>>167400405
I bought it for Bloodborne
Havent looked back desu
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>>167411812
Not that I've noticed.
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>>167411945
No clue about ninjutsu but Onmyou is incredibly powerful with mystic art.
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>>167411467
no noticeable balance changes

seems like 90% of streamers lock themselves into mid stance axe though so it's hard to see.
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>>167412084
the ninjutsu magic art is basically 'all your offensive ninjutsu's do more damage'

i imagine it would get pretty rough
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>>167412136
The other one is every ninjutsu buff is instant cast
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>>167412660
which sounds pretty shit compared to more damage

none of the ninjutsu buffs seem critical to apply quickly, stuff you generally apply before heading into battle.
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I remember testing with omnyo magic power in beta that it didn't buff any of my talismans or spells

can someone test with a omnyo magic boosting spirit and then without it to see if it increases damage on same enemy?

I still have no idea what omnyo magic power does
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1kat and onmyo or kusarigama and ninjutsu?
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>>167413548
I don't use offensive damage spells but it doesn't effect weapon buffs.

Damage without Genbu +52 fire damage

Damage with Genbu (+75 Onmyou power) +52 fire damage
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>>167414310
Fire shot with Genbu 250

Fire shot without Genbu 224
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>>167414310
I tested with that, carnage talisman and summon guardian talisman all didn't increase damage

the projectile damage spells increased very slightly that was the only scaling I found and it did no damage anyway

seems like omnyo magic power sucks and you just want magic for the scaling attack/defence on equipment and magic slots
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>>167414545
And to unlock dojo missions for mystic arts
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>>167414749
how much do you need for final dojo?
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>>167391460
How hard were you beat as a kid?
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>>167416027
20 in a stat and 500k proficiency for weapons
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>Honda Tadakatsu joins the Tachibana fight in ng+

>Toyotomi Hideyoshi noted that the best samurai were "Honda Tadakatsu in the east and Tachibana Muneshige in the west"

I see why I guess... but 1v2 isn't very honorable
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>>167417486
>it's alright when the Nioh does it!
is the rationale
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>>167417579
I don't like just adding more enemies for difficulty not defending it but I meant I see why they added him

rather have Muneshige just have more moves and harder
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>>167417486
He doesn't
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So this is Dark Souls for weebs
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>>167417834
I just assumed NG+ but he joins the fight in same mission setting as his first duel later on
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>>167417972
Dark Souls for weebs will be the next Namco Bandai published From Soft game
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>>167416636
I wasn't, because I wasn't a pretentious prick going around screaming "The best coming through"
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Anecdotal here, does it feel like Nue does his leaping charge where he ends up stunned on the ground for a few seconds significantly less compared to alpha? Struggling with him more compared to then which is surprising
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>>167317060
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Someone said you unlock 2 extra difficulty options after you beat the game options, one being called way of the warrior and that's the only place you can get divine weapons.

Is that true? How do you get divine weapons otherwise?
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>>167421771
You can't get Divine otherwise. Way of the warrior (NG+) Is the only way to get Divine stuff.
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>>167421946
Ah right. Is NG+ just called way of the warrior or do you have to select it as an additional difficultly option after the main game?
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what is this prestige stuff?
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>tfw no streamer benefits


>>167421946
do we have an example of divine equipment?

also damn the game sounds promising
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>tfw lost urge and will to play any sort of video game a couple months ago
>have to force myself to play games i used to enjoy and even then can only play for maybe an hour
>last chance demo comes out
>try it
>have fun again
This game will revive me, I can feel it
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>>167422069
check the thread buddy >>167408947
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>>167422029
You can actually toggle between NG and NG+, you're not stuck in it. So yeah it's basically an additional difficulty
>>167422069
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>>167422312
Is their any divine guns?

Also, I know they start at 150 max but I assume you need to max out the 999 familiarity yourself?
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>>167422312
if you reforge a weapon, can you get elemental effects or do you have to find one with it already on it?
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What do I have to do to get this game early?
Seriously considering using one of my guns to hold up my local gamestop in order to get this.
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>>167422419
You can reforge it but it's one of the rarest attributes to get. After over a million silver spent I've gotten 1
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>>167422404
No clue but I'd assume there'd be a divine gun/handcannon so everything's covered. Yeah you need to max familiarity yourself.
>>167422419
You can reforge but it's incredibly rare
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>>167422419
You can reforge elemental effects onto any weapon.
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>>167422312
i made that picture
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>>167422419
There's divine everything including accessories.
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How is NG+ in comparison to NG? Harder?
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>>167423470
Not that hard but some mobs has tons of health
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What does familiarity bonus and prof bonus do? I thought it just increases the rate you gain familiarity and proficiency so doesn't seem good to me?
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>>167422515
Just use a pigeon
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>>167424218
What
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>>167424134
proficiency seems pretty good because you need proficiency to unlock dojo mission to unlock skills

familiarity is trash unless you only plan to use one weapon and keep the other one on your back to sell or what have you
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>>167422258
The demo gave me that damn curse. Nothing else seemed fun after I played it.
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>People STILL getting fucked by Muneshige even at level 40 when lvl recommendation is 27
AYYY LMAO.
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>>167425629
>people trying to cheese every fight with that kusarigama move where you throw out the sickle at long range
>are shocked when they eventually get punished for using the weapon with the longest windups
every stream
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>>167425629
That fight goes from hard to insanely fun once you master dodging through his instant slash.
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>>167425629
are you talking about cohhcarnage? i saw him try it couple hours ago

he cheesed it in the beta and said he would do it for real in full game but he kept complaining about the 1 shot combo he always gets greedy

hes probably going to go back to rock cheese or heavily overgear
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>>167426034
greed gets punished so easily in this game and I can't understand why people play so impatiently, especially the Souls veterans. feels like I constantly see people losing half their health to a single bandit because they only choose to attack when the enemy's midswing
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>>167426407
it's because das3 had too much healing and godmode dodges, people are just trained wrong
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>>167426407
So what mindset should I go with into Nioh? Only attack after the enemy has stopped and then go all in once they've completely overused their ki?
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>>167426407
it's because they're most likely coming off of DKS3 and DKS3 had insanely cheap rolls. I had to get used to Nioh's system again myself.
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>>167427649
the git gud mindset
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>>167427853
I meant in terms of gameplay style. I've played souls and don't want to make the same mistake.
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>>167427649
There's just a pretty long learning curve before you start to feel comfotable with stance switching and doing ki bursts at the right time.

Fighting multiple enemies will fuck you up most of the time.
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>>167427952
Ki bursting makes sense due to it being down to timing but stance switching I imagine is situational based on when the enemy will next strike and what moveset they use.

Sounds hard but fun which is good since I haven't had any game do that since Dark Souls even if it doesn't play the same.
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huh, if you find yourself behind a nurikabe then you can instant kill them by removing a band aid on their backs.
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close combat is all melee weapons right? I don't get why this faction is so absurdly strong compared to everything else

>Close Combat Attack: +5%
>Ki Regeneration: +30%
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>>167427915
The game is largely about learning a load of gimmicks. Learn how to win the stamina bar mini-game so that you can constantly swing at stuff. Learn how enemy stamina is reduced by hitting them for some reason and so your reward for constantly swinging at stuff is free cutscene attacks. Learn how to do pre-planned sequences of attacks before/after cutscenes so that every opportunity becomes a 30 second long sequence that deals huge damage.

Now you don't have to worry so much about all that difficult stuff like how to actually create opportunities in the first place. Because you only need one.
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As if souls games werent milked out enough we now get a full blown weeb souls?

Oh well its a PS4 exclusive so ded game anyway
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>>167431369

t.conquered pcuck
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>>167431369
bad bait
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Any NG+ anons gotten a +3 or over Divine?
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>>167432520
>>167432537
Because Bloodborne lived for so long right?

Oh wait..
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>>167422312
On the Katana, does that "Change to attack (Spirit)" stat convert all the scaling to Spirit scaling or does the Heart scaling that you see below still take effect? Can you pump both Spirit and Heart for optimal damage?
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Are there secret bosses in ng+?
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So what's the deal with this tiger? I saw him transform from what looked like a cat spirit but I'm pretty much lost on what his role was in the story before becoming a boss
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>>167432891
Pretty much everyone I know still plays Bloodborne.
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>>167422404
>Is their any divine guns?
Its an extra rarity, its not couple new items, everything comes in the new rarity.
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>>167433265
After 20 in a stat the attack rating increase is pretty shit but you can take both for attack rating.
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>>167434158
Oh, that's nice to know. Thanks Anon.
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>>167433484
I don't think anyone has finished NG+ yet but none so far.
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>>167409176
What are you talking about? That's on those two weapons, there's a scaling bonus damage perk for every stat, you just gotta luck out and roll it.
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>that one guy who wears light armor and only uses low stance

seriously, just fuck off back to bloodborne
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>>167433546
He's Hanzo's spirit
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>>167434749
someones salty
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>>167382310
Coulkd someone please answer this anon? Is it possible to dick that qt?
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Just finished the water temple.
On one hand I want to play it more but on the other I don't want to be on NG+ when the game officially releases.
Both because I have a friend who hasn't got his copy yet that I want to play with and I want to still be on my first play through as discussion in this thread kicks off.

Guess I'll just watch some samurai movies instead.
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>>167436580
What do you honestly think?
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>>167436580
Yeah dude, you dick her. It's full penetration and they show everything.
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>>167434158
>After 20 in a stat the attack rating becomes garbage
That is disappointing. I wanted to go a pretty much pure Magic/Spirit build but that seems like it's going to make doing that and maintaining damage difficult.
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>>167438221
Damage comes from weapon and gear, not stats
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>>167438221
I think with each weapon scaling from three stats they're encouraging you to not just stack one stat for damage. I don't have the game so I can't say for sure though.
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>>167438496
>3stats
Whoa

Is it like A/B/C or A/B/B
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>>167438663
You can see the scaling at the bottom of the weapon stats here >>167422312

It's different for all the different weapon types.
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>>167438968
Looks like I'm going body/ str.

B/C with both axes and spears.
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>>167438221
spirit and magic are actually the best endgame stats because they are the only stats to get scaling on defence/weapons as bonus effects and it goes up to a+ scaling more than any weapon stat

pic related on the sword, you also get the effects on accessories
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>>167439972
thought i was on /v/ the image is already in this thread wasn't paying attention lel
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>>167360291
>Just a quick question for people with early copies; do they delve into the whole Protestant vs. Catholic thing that was a real part of the real-life Adams/James Clavell's Shogun story, or have they avoided that altogether in favour of the Celtic mysticism thing?

I'm curious about this as well. Also, are English/Japanese/Gaelic the only languages, or is there some Dutch and Portuguese as well?
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Not sure if everyone has picked up on this but agility rating (equip load) is not like souls where lower is categorically better.
C rating in Nioh gives you poise/hyper armor when attacking (something one should also keep in mind when fighting heavily armored humans).
While not directly tied to agility rating heavier armor also has higher toughness (it was called VS Break in alpha/beta) which reduces the stamina cost of blocking.
So heavy armor and C rating for when you want to be the unstoppable force/immovable object.
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>>167440424
So if you increased your encumberance stat enough you would LOSE poise, despite wearing the same armor?

Sounds dumb desu
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Why wasn't this game released on a Friday?
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>>167440669
yep, scrawny dude encumbered to C by medium armor has more poise than a buff dude who can wear the same armor and be B
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>>167440378
Only Eng, Gaelic and JP.
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>>167440424
so if you increase your stamina stats too high and you can't ever get over 70% you can't ever have hyper armor

uhh ok
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>>167440424
>>167441435
yeah but going over 100% is asking for a beating.

no dodge roll and ki recovers like shit.

70-80 % seem the best for heavy armor. 50% to 69% is for mid armor and below 50/40% is for your fast fragile fucks.
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>>167441729
pretty sure 31-69% is the exact same it only changes ki consumption when changing tiers into a b or c

so under 30% for fast 30-70 for medium and heavy is 70+

didn't test anything over 100
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>>167441729
A is 0 to 30
B is 30-70
C is 70-100
There is a warning message if you try to get more than 100 so I doubt there is any kind of benefit to get it.
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>>167434158
What do you even level up then after getting to level 100+? Everything?
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>having to grind a full set of fully-optimized Green items for every character you make

This shit will be worse than Chalice Dungeons
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>>167443445
I honestly have no clue. I'm level 108 and everything is shit.
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>>167443445
You can level up your guardian spirits in NG+ but even that goes fast.
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>>167443557
You can reroll stats on gear
Farm revenants
And respec

Much better that gem grinding
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>>167443557
only "hard" things to farm will be the accessories
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>>167443569
I may stop at level 100 then and make do with what I have. After all I really like the aspect of the Souls series where there's a (player made) level meta for interacting with other players and you have to make a build that fits within those levels. May be autistic of me to do that in a game that doesn't even have PvP yet but it could double as a good challenge as well, instead of going with a lot of level bloat that doesn't even do much.
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>That first "meeting" with Tokugawa
Didn't expect that.
Good to see that there are other silly cutscenes besides the cat clock one.
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>>167433265
It ads an extra scaling stat, it doesn't overwrite anything.
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>>167444560
>I may stop at level 100 then and make do with what I have. After all I really like the aspect of the Souls series where there's a (player made) level meta for interacting with other players and you have to make a build that fits within those levels.
Souls meta exists because of level range restrictions on matchmaking. NiOh has no such thing, there's absolutely no reason to restrict your own level other than being a retard.
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>>167443445
Nothing will ever beat the cancer of grinding for specific gems. Fuck chalices
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What mission is that, anyone? I've done every main mission up to region 4 and it's still not unlocked
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>>167446482
I see.

I may just be a retard though, it's just that I like having builds with limited stats so I have to make good choices when putting the points somewhere instead of every character eventually becoming a bloated Master of Everything. Half the fun for me in Souls games is figuring out a build and then running it through the game with the limited options that I have.
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>>167447913
region 3*
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>>167447952
>every character eventually becoming a bloated Master of Everything.
Your equipment and guardian will be much more deciding in your play style than your stats.
The different combinations of effects on gear and guardian will where build diversity comes in.
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>>167448178
That actually makes sense. Thanks Anon.
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>>167448212
I got the game early so I've played it a bit.
Looking at all the different effects I can see potential for a lot of wacky builds.
Like a lot of powerful effects are labeled (Critical) which means they only activate when you're sub 30% HP.
I even found an accessory that improves all (Critical) effects by a large %.
So you can be super strong but have to have low HP all the time so that sucks right?
But then there is a guardian that activates living weapon if you take a killing blow.
Combine that and you can run around with low HP intentionally and still be tough to kill.
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post your glamourai
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>>167333329
I believe you can, actually. If this is it, which it might not be.
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>>167361135
People really have lost the ability to see satire.
Either that or we really are all autistic on this fucking site.
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>>167449796
I think those are the snow butterflies that fly around Yuki Onna and not the Mothgirl.
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>>167450064
oh shit, you're right
my bad
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>>167449796
22 spirits that have been found has been posted in the thread, there's an imgur album in the thread as well for all of them
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I WANT MY BIDEO GAME
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>>167450304
Seems so weird if moth isn't obtainable, like all the other ones shown in famitsu has been.
(Famitsu also said that Kelley's snake is not a guardian, so not getting that one was already expected)
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I'll be unironically upset if you can't get moth-fu.
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>>167454019
Hopefully it's hidden
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Bout to light up the shkreets with my boi yatagarasu and get that infinite ammo senpai
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>>167455128
Go to that one zombie tunnel in the silver mines and show us that Nioh is actually a 3rd person zombie shooter.
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Do we know what all the Status Effects do? I don't know what Water and Wind does.
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>>167455427
Nioh's Japanese twitter said this back during beta.

https://twitter.com/nioh_game/status/770212588537864192
Fire: damage over time
Water: damage taken increase
Wind: reduce break-resistant (now called toughness) and parry
Lightning: attack speed and movement speed decrease
Earth: double ki consumption

Assuming they haven't changed it since then.
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>>167455427
gee i wonder what the pastebin in the second post could possibly be for
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>>167455551
Thanks

>>167455668
Sorry Anon I didn't see it because it didn't have a pretty picture to hold my attention. My bad.
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>>167406308
>9 body 9 skill required for l150 gear

????????????
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>>167455551
so lighting > water = fire > wind > earth?
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Curious about what the DLCs will contain in terms of new gameplay stuff.
At least 1 guardian per DLC seems likely.
New armors of various types is obvious.
New enemy types hopefully.
But will they introduce any new weapon classes?
Maybe new rarity levels? or at least new gear effects.
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do you need ps+ for online funcitons?
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>>167456873
i'm hopeful for at least a few new weapon types
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Why do some of the effects lack a plus or minus sign? Like just stating "Sprint Speed 30".. is that going to make me faster or slower?
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>>167457771
Looking back I can't find a good example of this, but I had some effect in mind that seemed unclear.
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>>167457771
i don't think there are any negative effects at all on weapons.
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>>167447913
>Kinki region
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>>167439972
>spirit and magic are actually the best endgame stats because they are the only stats to get scaling on defence/weapons as bonus effects

I don't understand why you would lie about something like that.
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>>167459652
I've never seen that every single accessory,armor and weapon always was magic or spirit

depends on if you can get body or any other stat on armor and accessories too like magic/spirit though, found any?
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>>167461689
>depends on if you can get body or any other stat on armor and accessories too like magic/spirit though, found any?
Not yet, but since its on weapon, its pretty safe to assume it can roll on armor as well.

I can see you never running into it though, it seems to be pretty rare, this is the only time I ran into it myself.

Maybe day 1 patch fixes it? Or maybe drops are intentionally weighed towards spirit?
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dead general out the gate?
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>>167463129
not enough shitposting for a pre-release general
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>>167463129
The game doesn't officially release for another 3 days. I'm not sure what you were expecting.
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>>167463129
We've extracted pretty much all the info we wanted from people who already have the game. Not much to do now, besides wait.
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all accessories have 1 magic 1 spirit req

for what reason
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pre-orders in Japan have improved somewhat, they've been running demo stations in stores non-stop, also the good reviews by western press is actually helping too.

though I wonder how making the deluxe edition digital only will impact physical sales.
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>new twilight level pops up for me
>level 310

fucking christ
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>all these streamers that fight the easy mode forced fight with Muneshige then get BTFO in the real fight
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someone far in the game tell me the highest stat requirements you've seen on armor

it seems like everyone is going to be pretty similar build in the end with low soft caps and equipment reqs
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>>167465703
the effects you choose on your gear and what guardian your have will mean much more than stat points.
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Is anybody watching Oroboro play? It seems like he's being such a fucking pussy about combat. Literally get one hit, dash away, repeat.
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>>167468039
lobos plays the same way
they're playing like souls, it's a really boring way to play nioh and bosses take forever
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>>167468039
Yeah, the opportunities to dish out big damage only comes if you pressure your enemies stamina.
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>>167468240
I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds it boring as hell.
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>>167468039
Watch peeve, he's much more aggressive and isn't a PvPfag
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>>167468652
I would if he was streaming right now. At least seeing Oro's tactic get btfo'd by a boss right now is fun.
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>>167468039
i am, and yeah his playstyle is kinda boring
im a mod in his channel
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>>167468819
He is streaming.
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>>167468856
Well shit. I've been watching for the past hour and some change, and he seems adamant on playing it cheaply. Also ignoring chat despite them telling him things he should be doing.
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>>167469062
Oh, my twitch hadn't refreshed. Thanks.
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>>167469062
>lv62
how long have these fags had the game?
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>>167468240
>bosses take forever
when you hear someone complain about enemies being HP sponges you can at least instantly know that they've misunderstood key mechanics.
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>>167469181
>i'm twice that level

i've had it for like 3 or 4 days now
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>>167469650
yeah, the ign vid for the first boss is like 9 minutes long because he gets single hits and backs off
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it's like peeve and oro are playing completely different games
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CONFIRM/DENY: CAN WE GET THE MOTH GUARDIAN SPIRIT
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I wonder how much room there is for these faster playstyles if you wear heavy armor or use a weapon like the axe.
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>>167470596
Moth? Closest thing I can think of is the "Aya-komori" and "Usura-hicho"
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>>167471018
Otani Yoshitsugu's guardian spirit
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>>167470512
Oro's style is like watching fucking paint dry
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>>167470596
The Anon who was posting all the info on the spirits didn't mention her, so we can't know for sure.

Having said that however, I doubt they will leave her out.
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>>167470624
C agility (equip load 80-100) gives you worse dodging and slower stamina regen.
But you get poise when attacking and the toughness from heavy armor gives you better blocking.
So any heavy armor build will not be dodging oriented.

Though for pvp I think C agility might be good.
You can go high stance, wait for light armor guy to attack, poise through his attack and hit him with a high stance attack.
And after getting hit you can block sooner than you can dodge means that they'll have to block the second high stance attack (and with light armor their blocking will be poor) so you'll drain both their HP and Ki a lot.
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>>167471106
Unfortunately you do not get his cute moth girl
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>>167471583
Correction: C is 70-100
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>>167470512
>>167471308
oro and his chat are comparing it to dark souls so much. he's even playing it like its dark souls. when the games are literally nothing alike
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>>167471697
>Chat sees Ornyoki
>"It's the Taurus Demon!"

They're completely insufferable, and this is coming from a Souls fanboy. The Souls community used to be really nice, now it's pure cancer.

They do the same with Souls games, saying new bosses are rehashes of old bosses going by the most superficial similarities.
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>>167471697
A guy in chat pointed out that he'd missed a secret door and that's fucks response was "HUR HUR DON'T TELL ME HOW TO PLAY"
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Ready to get that big ass firebomb, caltrops, and everything that can possibly give me more ammo/less consumption of ammo for guns/bows. Then maybe a spear too just for keep-away.
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It took him 8 hours to clear the fishing village.

In co-op.
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>>167473796
Damn, getting that much play time out of one level. I wish I was that bad at games.
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They need to nerf Oroboro's dash-hit-dash-hit tactic. He just cheesed a powerful NPC encounter that way. The only thing he does is hit and dash away with a really fast attack and the enemies can do nothing against it.
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Oro's chat isn't having the shit, at least.
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>>167473921
eh, it's the same with the kusa. you have pull and just heavy repeatedly
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In NG+, if you're using another skin, can you still swap equipment and armor? Does it just not affect your appearance? Or does the character have unique skills, stats gear and weapons
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>>167475531
When you change skins, the armor doesnt show up. it's just the skin. at least it is for the Hanzo one.
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centipede boss sold me on this, what a fucking cool fight
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>>167475661
Thanks dude

>>167475701
sounds exciting
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Don't want to keep watching and spoiling content for myself, but also it's just fun to watch it played well
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>>167475701
seemed cool
the level seemed pretty boring though

i mean like, compare it to stonefang or something from Des and it's just zero effort in comparison
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Oroboro is right that the enemy variety is truly lacking. He has made it pretty far by now and he's still fighting the same yokai. Only the main missions seem to come with an extra enemy type, but it's not enough.
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>>167476448
you could tell this from just playing the demos
it's all the same stuff

the red demon yokai are literally everywhere
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>>167476145
>i mean like, compare it to stonefang or something from Des and it's just zero effort in comparison

Yes, Souls areas are heads and shoulders above Nioh areas sadly. I would say the area design and enemy variety are the things Souls does better than Nioh. Loving nearly everything else from Nioh, though.

Some things look a bit rough around the edges, but the combat looks so satisfying, can't wait to get my hands on it.
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idk why you guys expect better from soulbrandt, they only stream this shit for their hardcore image. they fucked off from bloodborne after like a month because the pvp wasn't credible (thank god), and they'll fuck off from this too
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>>167317060
Why the fuck would Sony give these e celeb faggots A WEEK HEADSTART?

Fucking artifical Conquerors, this is bullshit and a big "fuck you" to the community.

Who else avoiding the streams and shitting on these cucks?
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>>167477532
it's not a competitive game and none of these people will be around for the long term unless they evolve into full-blown coopfags, which would frankly be a miracle on par with the grinch's heart
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>>167477317
what point are you trying to make?

they should have continued playing BB's mediocre pvp?
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>>167477749
you misunderstood. i think it sucks when they're around, i'm glad BB had mediocre PvP to get rid of them, and i think the same thing will happen in nioh
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>>167478021
Why would you be happy that BB's replayability was crippled by an awful PvP system? Just to get rid of some streamers you dislike? Just don't watch them. Bloodborne's crappy PvP and awful gem system was what kept it from being a 10/10 in my opinion, and while i loved the game, I was done with it incredibly fast compared to other Souls games,

Nioh probably won't have the best PvP, but if I'm positively surprised and it turns out to be ok it will elevate my regard for the game a lot. And if not, well, the game is pretty long and the item system is much better than BB's and should keep me playing for longer.

I already preordered For Honor to get rid of my PvP needs, and Nioh for the PvE and build making side of things. But still, if the game manages to be the complete package and ends up having good PvP, it would be the best.
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>people keep saying Onmyo magic is good

Can someone explain why, and which parts of it are good? It didn't seem so hot in beta 2 and the demo/beta 3.
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So new game+ alters missions as well as boss encounters?

That's pretty impressive.
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>>167478561
i found BB's replayability far, far better than any other Souls game, i got 400+ hours out of it instead of 100-200h like all the others. invasions are fun, but i think competitive Souls pvp is complete trash, and in particular i think it ruined DaS3's online play because it took over all forms of player interaction -- eventually every invasion was either people looking to duel, or gank setups. it's impossible to "just ignore it," competitive PvP was an oversight that completely broke Soul's creative multiplayer. it also opened the door to fucking balance patches

coop has always been total dogshit in Souls, but BB at least tried to give you a reason to do it, and since the game was fun i was willing to put up with ginding. i think Nioh is going to be a much more realized coop experience with much better rewards, that's what i'm most looking forward to about it and where i see myself spending most of my time. i think that competitive PvP could totally ruin nioh's online just like it did souls, if only because it will create justification for balance whine
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>>167479609
NGB is 10/10 with that shit
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>>167480025

Agreed but the only real boss surprise was when you get to the final stage and have to fight Alma's sister and Ishtaros, this game seems to do it all over.
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>>167479609
I'm going through NG+ right now, boss encounters are the same.

Missions are relatively the same, enemies hit harder and there are a lot more of them.
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A SHAME YOU SEEMED AN HONEST MAN
i cannot wait any longer for this game
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>>167480626
You can do it, Lain!
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>>167479794
>Tfw you get tired of playing the Dark Souls series for duels due to general unbalance, bad netcode but mostly plain boredom and want to move to For Honor
>Tfw you're beyond garbage at the game and can't do even the most basic things

Pure suffering. I don't know what I will do if I can't get good at the game.
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>>167481072
in all honesty after playing 10-20k hours of competitive videogames in every genre imaginable (including a pretty good M:tG rating) i am just no longer interested in any of them, and in particular i'm sick of pretending that random rules a designer pulled out of his ass are "balanced" when they get patched every month

the only good competitive games are Go and Modern Art
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>>167481968
I don't know when people started getting this idea that Balance is what matters in competitive games.
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The worst thing about co-op, i guess it's not super terrible. Is the fact that when you summon, the person who gets summoned isn't scaled down to the host's level.

So since i'm level 150 now, i got summoned into the 2nd main mission for someone. Guess who had no fun?
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>>167483469
can't you set restrictions at the tori gate?
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So is the manga based on this game available like anywhere on the entire internet because I can't find it
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watching some of these streams, the mentality that went into some of these areas seems to be "how do we take this level from DS2 and make it not suck?" I just wish they would occasionally reskin some of these enemies though they might do that later in the game.
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>>167486491
>I just wish they would occasionally reskin some of these enemies though they might do that later in the game.
They do and they get a couple of extra moves
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The mechanic of breaking the demon yokai's horns to leave them vulnerable for a while is really nice. I'm a fan of mechanics that let you damage one section of the monster you're fighting, like on Bloodborne where it opened the enemy to staggers or critical attacks. I hope they do more like this.
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>>167486491
>DS2
Don't ever mention this garbage in a general about a good game.
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The Umi-bozu's level and boss fight are so damn cool. Probably my favorite out of all the ones I've spoiled for myself.
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>>167479232
It had the best buffs in the game like Carnage Talisman and Kek-kai talisman, lets you summon your Spirit Guardian's special attack at will (given there's 20 of them, there's sure to have 1 that's broken) AND makes it trivially easy to proc multiple elements on bosses.

They also had the 2nd best scaling after Spirit where you can get defenses on par with the heaviest build from good talismans and weapons. Those depends on getting lucky with loot though.
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>>167487546
>there's sure to have 1 that's broken
lighting rabbit is already broken
>plants an entire lighting minefield
>anything going through it gets slowed down to a crawl
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>>167487757
Do you know if the Guardian Spirit's special attack is the same for all the Spirits with that element or if it varies from one Spirit to the other?
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>>167487805
>>167487757
Varies, Puppy shibba is a fixed area version of Shiggy's projectile attack while rabbits plants mines.
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>>167488118
Nice. Can't believe they put the effort to create alternate effects for all 20+ Spirits.
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>>167488451
I wonder what spell Saoirse has.
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To people in NG+, how the hell do you unlock region 4 and onward? I've every main mission and almost every sub mission and they're locked
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>>167489462
i got region 4 by beating all of region 1's missions. then right after i got a dojo mission and beat that.
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Nice, preload has started for those that preordered the game. I had to download mine manually though, by accessing the game from the Library and hitting Download. It didn't start on its own.
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>>167491018
That one is memeing. Some of them aren't however, and it's horrible to behold.
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>>167456873
Looking at all the spirits lined up like this makes 1 spirit from each of the 3 DLCs look logical.
But that would also mean no moth (unless it turns out to be a DLC spirit somehow).
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How does cooping work? To be a summon do you select a submission or something?

How viable would it be to play through the game with a friend?
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>>167491808
I will probably go for Aya-komori, on a build that tries to maximize Damage from Behind. Stacking that with the 1kat Mystic Art and possibly effects from my gear could end up in some nice damage numbers.

Also going from what the wiki says I think that "Agility Damage Bonus - A" means more damage when you're very light (<30%) so it could be nice for my build as well.
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Do you need PS+ for anything other than co-op/pvp? Can you still fight revenants without it?
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>>167492380
you can fight developer revenants 100% certain so player revenants seems likely.
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>>167492380
There are developer revenants and some of them even simulate other players (some of them get funny names) but I'm sure you'll need PS+ to see the actual player revenants.
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>>167491808
Bet the final fire spirit will be Yukimura's spirit, and the thunder one Masamune's. No idea about the last earth spirit though
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>farming for divine accessories
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Are you ready for the DLCs, guys?
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>>167493309
Final boss looked a bit disappointing. Not a bad fight, but Souls series bosses tend to be better.
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>2 days
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This game looks way too easy.
Dark Souls is harder...
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>>167495736
It looks punishing for when you screw up, but easy to break. Kind of like Demon's Souls.
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I really hope NG+ has an okatsu skin
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>>167479794

Complete opposite for me. The lack of builds in BB and garbage pvp system made it the only game of its ilk that I didn't give a second playthrough.
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>>167491808
who here /gyokuto/
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>>167492978
Fufu should have had the ability to reforge accessories.
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Toad/frog spirit?
Iga toad interested me, he seems chill af
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Can someone edit this image so that nioh is right beside bloodborne?
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>>167499224
no
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>>167499536
:(
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>>167499224
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>>167499224
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>>167500449
>>167500593
thanks!
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>>167491808
so dumb how kato is so good with such low spirit req
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Why did they go with this eastern real life but with magic thing? What happened to the epic, post-apocalyptic dark fantasy setting these games are known for? And surely they know by now that the katanas are always the most busted weapons, so why make a game where more than half of the weapons are katanas?

And why are they not doing pvp and just making co-op? That's almost the only reason anyone ever really plays these games after the first run or two.
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>>167500994
yep, I used it almost throughout the entire game
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>first clan battle is over right on the day of release
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>>167501229
From software wanted to try something different.
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>>167464629
I hope you're not still basing your pre-orders being bad on that one dude posting this chart.
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>>167503282
Because this is where they got those preorder numbers from.
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how does enemies defeated bonus work?

what's the cap? is it kills with the weapon/spirit or overall?

why can't they just show em the damage bonus i'm getting next to the effect
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>>167503641
>how does enemies defeated bonus work?
You gain a bit of damage for every enemy you kill until you die or visit a shrine.
>what's the cap? is it kills with the weapon/spirit or overall?
There is no cap. Doesn't need to be since revenants are not counted, and there are a limited number of regular enemies.
Kills with everything count, but only the weapon with the perk gets any benefit.
>why can't they just show em the damage bonus i'm getting next to the effect
Because it shows a grade, accept it and move on.

Also you can push start button to inspect perks and get a description of them.
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I got the DLC stuff from the last trial demo on a US account that I normally use. If I get a EU copy of the game, will I be able to use that DLC?
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>>167504825
Normally DLC and game needs to be of the same region to work.
But I believe the last chance DLC unlocks based on finding the save file so maybe it works differently.
But if you want to be certain you'll need a US copy.
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So what are the chances of the game receiving balance patches just to make things more difficult rather than for the eventual pvp crowd
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>>167505304
normally i don't like singleplayer nerfs but i wouldn't mind if they did a few obvious things like made some bosses resist Sloth
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>>167505304
i think there was a rumor that said the pvp was going to be arena based with preset classes
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>>167505304
>>167505426
This.
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>>167505771
BAHAHAHAHAHA
GOOD GAME WEEBS
back to bloodborne
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>>167505771
this is both impressive and kind of terrifying
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>>167505771
>throws a dama on a fire yokai
What a fucking retard.
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it's too easy
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What control scheme to use? I used the default one in the last chance demo and had zero problems, but i want to know if one of the others is objectively better.
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Digital deluxe y/n?
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>>167506643
Never buy dlc for a game you havent played
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>>167506756
I've played the demo though
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set bonuses seem good for ninjutsu gear

anyone seen any good magic/spirit or heavy armor set bonuses?
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>>167506786
NEVER

NO EXCEPTIONS
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>>167506841
There's a melee medium armor set with life and damage, quite good
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>>167506359
I think the default works well, the souls control scheme seem to make stance switching and attacking more cumbersome.

Alternately you can use the control scheme that is the same as default except gesture and menu button switched.
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>>167491839

2 ways

1st is you put a cup at a shrine, and then a random person looking to co-op gets shoved into your game. You can password lock it though to get a friend. If they die, they're gone.

2nd is a co-op mode where you have this extra bar. Any time you or your friend dies, they lay on the ground and the bar starts depleting rapidly. You can go pick them up to revive them, and the bar stays depleted by however much. If the bar depletes all the way, you autofail the mission. You can visit each shrine once in the level, and doing so restores a tiny bit of the bar.
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>watching Peeve shred apart the spider boss after years of him sucking at any and all pvp
Did he grind his ass off or is it really going to be this casual?
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>>167506129
>good pathfinding
>good game weebs
Well yeah it is, did you watch the webm?
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>>167507724
I know this may come as a surprise but a lot of bosses aren't hard.
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so much for being a masocore game
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>>167509652
/bbg/ hasn't given any fucks about any other games since BB came out. I suppose there was that one time they wanted to organize DS3 PS4 stuff before that game turned out to be a fuckup but that was basically it.
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What is your guys's first build going to be?
I'm going to roll a lmao2kat parry heavy build with +parry and +critical on everything
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>>167509951
I'm going to run a spear for now because Kusarigama is apparently turbo easy mode
I also want to try poison on this run too, no clue about armor yet but given my weapon I'll probably go heavy.
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>>167509951
Got it on Friday.

I played a lot of chain sickle in last chance and tried 2kat in the beta.
But in the end I went back to my beloved 1kat.
Level 66, 20 hours and just reached 4th region and only used 1kat, no regrets.
1kat with light armor and a lot of spirit (using armor that scales with spirit)
Love the low stance swoop-behind-them move and mid stance parries.
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>>167510453
How did you get it early? Streamerfag?
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>>167510595
Nah, ordered it from a web shop.
Their official policy is to send the game out in advance so you get it on release.
"in advance" they're assuming maximum incompetence from the postal service, which basically means you usually get games some days before official release.
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>>167510824
Dammit, wish i thought of that
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>>167510824
Damn. Which web shop?
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>>167510453
>low stance swoop-behind-them move
What skill is this? Sounds good
Is there a noticeable difference for living weapon charging time when you have high spirit?
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I have to chose a shitter clan so I can feel special carrying it up
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>>167510891
Are you in Norway?

>>167511132
swift step
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>>167512103
>Are you in Norway?
Nope. Guess I'm shit outta luck.
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>>167511132
about living weapon.
I can't say for sure how much difference high spirit does for the charging, but I'm using a A+ gauge rate spirit so it's super fast for me.
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kusarigama is pure cheese, I'm switching to 1kat/spear
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>>167506220
inflicting the fire status on standard oni makes them explode you fukcin' baka
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Why would they put a multiple charge Second Chance in the game? And furthermore why would they make it even easier to apply to the player than the original?
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>>167512738
its only 1 charge but theres 3 levels of it so you can equip it multiple times for 6, 5 and then 4 jutsu per for total of 3

and then you can have your unlimited ninjutsu proc
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It's already bombing in japan. Prediction <30k
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>>167513063
t. conquered
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>>167512738
Because they killed their design philosophy for sales. Same shit happened with From Software except it lasted more than -1 games
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FUCK bros, this game is easy trash. Everything is incredibly easy compared to Soulsborne games. Casuals can't even get past fucking Gascoigne but they're easily beating the game here and even the Twilights. What the fuck do we do? I think TN needs to set up an emergency test server and let us suggest nerfs NOW because this game will be dead in a week otherwise.
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>>167506194
>>167505771
pathfinding is a legitimately hard problem, but it's also an incredibly important one (in e.g. robotics) so solutions DO exist if you bother to research and implement them. desu i think it's kind of embarrassing how bad pathfinding is in most games, that webm should be the standard
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>>167512657
It's not a standard yokai, that fire yokai is immune to fire.
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>>167513262
I bet this was funnier in your head
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>>167509951
i'm going to do a 2kat spirit/magic build with amrita gain stuff to try to go infinite on LW
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>>167513389
This game being trashed and mocked by even fucking casuals isn't funny man, you won't even be able to discuss the game here Tuesday when we're getting humiliated nonstop on here, /v/, and elsewhere. The trophy % for beating the final boss is probably going to be higher than the one for beating fucking GUNDYR
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>>167513565
alright
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>>167511132
LW strength is based on spirit but charge time is based on amrita gain. if you want to go a full ham LW build you need magic for amrita buffs
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>>167513262
>>167513565
Jesus fucking christ, grow the fuck up and stop shitposting.
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>>167512738
>>167513262
>>167513565
has anyone gotten to the highest difficulty setting yet? i basically don't care beyond that, it's like complaining normal difficulty is too easy in diablo
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>>167513934
You need to do everything including sub missions to unlock a new region in NG+ so it's taking time for people to reach NG++

NG+ isn't that hard, it's far easier than NG because certain builds almost breaks the game
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>>167514153
>it's far easier than NG because certain builds almost breaks the game
FUCK THIS GAME, you fuckers said this shit would actually be hard but it's so incredibly easy to slothcheese bullshit your way past everything. FUCK THIS FUCKING HYPE, there are still no good Souls-esque games that aren't the real thing.
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Do the mystic arts for each weapon type only apply to each weapon?
Like the bonus damage for attacking on 2kat only works for 2kat?
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>>167514403
okay, and?
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>>167514403
I don't use Sloth though and the option is there for you to not use it either. There are plenty of stuff in Souls games that breaks them as well so I don't see your point.
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>game is confirmed easy as piss even for normie streamers
welp
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>>167513787
>Giving a literal fifteen year old (You)s
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>ah bloo bloo bloo you can break the game if you stack shit/use the broken shit

So it's...Every other fucking game ever made? What a shock. Man, who ever thought using the absolute best stuff would make a game easier?
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>>167514582
>game needs to be special snowflake hard mode for 4chan to enjoy it
Hilarious and please fuck off back to /v/.
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>>167514409
please respond
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>>167514153
At this point I'd be surprised if there was even an NG++ with how much there already is in the game, but if there's a Mark of the Warrior difficulty a Conquerer one would ideally exist as well
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>>167514635
>>167514635
The broken shit in Souls requires actual execution and skin, and sometimes just pure luck hoping you get a certain drop from a unique enemy. All you do here is FUCKING SPEC INTO SLOTH AND KUSARIGAMAS AND YOU FUCKING INSTAWIN. THIS SHIT IS WORSE THAN XCOM 2
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>>167514732
CAPS LOCK MAKES ME LOOK MORE IMPORTANT
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I will never understand people who think difficulty makes the game good. If you want a challenge try playing fighting, grand strategy or shootans against other players instead of bashing your head against the actual definition of single-player artificial difficulty.
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>>167514732
You mean to say that if you picked Pyro or Magic in Dark Souls in the initial version of the game and that required execution or luck? Or how Lightning Spears completely destroyed Dark Souls 2? Or how literally 90% of the player base used Fume in Dark Souls 3?

Stop posting delusional bullshit.
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>>167514732
my second playthrough of dark souls 1 i got BKH early and beat every boss naked but 4 kings first try. stop falling for the "if someone, somewhere manages to beat a boss the game is too easy" meme and just enjoy yourself.
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>>167514732
>ds 2
>faith build
>spears
Wow, that required luck and planning!
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>>167514635
I know this talk is mostly shitposting but let's be a little fair here, ninjutsu is way too overpowered in the current state of the game. It's like a glaring, gaping hole. I was really expecting it to still be OP after the beta because there was no way they could completely retool it between then and the time the game came out but it's kind of gotten worse since then.

I'll be playing through the game with a spear and ignore all the crying about it, but it's definitely something they ought to address at some point, especially if they want to add pvp to the game.
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It has been so comfy in here since Wednesday but I knew the cancer would eventually happen.
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Hardcore git gud Soulsborne fans are the fucking worse and the cancer killing video games.

Games don't need to be impossible to beat to be fun, they just need to be challenging- you know, like Dark Souls. But the lot of them act like it's sooooo hard. But it really isn't, and it's not a good litmus test for who's hardcore or casual. Fucking Game Grumps beat Bloodborne for fucks sake, you can't complain about "casuals" beating Nioh.
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>>167514153
in every action game i've ever played, the second playthrough is the easiest ("very hard" or whatever) because the difficulty doesn't scale enough to match the fact that you've acquired literally everything

i'm basically interested in whether there's anything like master ninja. souls style NG+ really sucks
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>>167514968
dark souls has pvp so people feel it's skillful. the fact that the pvp is garbage doesn't seem to factor into it
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>>167515112
>ninjutsu is way too overpowered
If you think that's overpowered check out Onmyou.

>>167515253
You can't acquire anything of the best in Nioh outside NG+ because the best gear is available in NG+ only.
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So the deluxe edition has 3 new chapters, is that three new areas like how the missions are divided up in game or just 3 new missions with submissions?
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>>167515220
>>167515236
>Soulbrandt starts streaming Nioh
>now general is filled with difficulty memesters
who could be behind this?
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>>167515549
Considering the price they're asking for it it'd better be three new areas
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>>167515365
I have never played a game outside of those 3 genres he's listed that make you feel like you actually achieved a real victory over another player.

It's almost like soulsfag have literally never truly experienced another genre of game at a higher level before in their lives.
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>>167515549
we don't know how they're breaking up the dlcs, we just know that we're making them and that one guy with a crescent moon on his head is going to be in one
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>>167515421
i'm talking about the unlocks, not gear. on NG+ you have instant onmoyo mystic arts and shit like that from the start, the game would have scale extremely hard to compensate for how broken that is
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>>167515656
if you ever want to play the best competitive game i can't recommend Go highly enough, holy shit that game. it's getting really big in the US now because of the AI meme
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>>167515664
>we're making them
hello dev team
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>>167515550
>tfw you've known oro personally for over a decade
I sort of feel like I should apologize. But I won't, because even he thinks the majority of his dark souls audience is retarded.
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Oh well, back to Salt&Sanctuary I guess
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>>167515550
I feel like blaming the streamers a bit more than the chat this time. Oroboro has been playing the game with running poke strats since he started and Peeve farmed and is being carried by Hanzo's set
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>>167511506
>I have to
You want to.

Nobody is forcing you. You're just being an autistic dickmeasuring faggot, might I recommend going back to soulsgen? Faggot.
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>>167515676
It's the gear that breaks the game more than skills.
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>>167515995
Wow you got triggered pretty hard, pretty sure soulsgen is just filed with PCfags anyway based on what others say I wouldn't know I never go there

seems like you do though
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BEST BUY IS SELLING A SEASON PASS FOR 25 DOLLARYDOOS
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>>167514582
I made the mistake of going to the nioh subreddit, these last couple weeks have been nothing but faggots crying that they will not buy the game if there are difficulty settings. Its gotten so bad to the point faggot mods are demanding people respect their (The mod's) demand for removal of any easy mode if it exists and other pretentious 13 year old shit you'd expect in a private cs lobby.

Play the game or don't play it. Its as simple as that, fuck off with that elitist garbage.
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>>167516214
>My life depends on picking shit that I can brag about having done.

Kay.
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>>167515838
are you kiyo? oro modded me in his channel recently since im good friends with wooti
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>>167514732

>dark souls
>need skills to execute

Choose one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsC6tRKEIXY
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>>167515896
>I feel like blaming the streamers a bit more than the chat this time.
Just blame garbage like this:
>>167515802
>>167514582
>>167514403
>>167513101
>>167513063
>>167511506
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>>167516398
Never played DaSII, what is supposed to be happening in the Skeleton Lords fight, it looks like their AI broke or something
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>>167513063
>It's already bombing in japan.
see
>>167503282
>>167503380
Its in the top 20 pre-orders in japan on Amazon.
Amazon doesn't reveal the exact pre-order numbers, so the "14 total" That's in the charts where you and all the other faggots get your info from, is from comG, japan-only electronics chain with 1 large store and 13 small ones. That is all.

The only thing that chart says, is that 14 people preordered it from ComG IN JANUARY, and that amazon has it in the top 20.

Just by knowing its in the top 20 for pre-orders on amazon, you should know its selling pretty fucking well, but you pcucks are too busy falseflagging to actually get your info straight.
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>>167516381
No, kiyo hates this place, he's super politically correct and wouldn't be caught dead here. I am good friends with him though, he's a great guy. We play shit together whenever he's on. I met oro on splinter cell chaos theory.
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>>167517103
oh i see, he did seem like a cool guy from the little exchanges i had with him
im Arch btw, so you probably have seen me around already since im in like all the discords
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>>167515421

I keep seeing Onmyuo is OP, but what about it is so great? I tried it in 2 betas, but it wasn't like DS magic (yeah I know you guys hate the comparison, too fucking bad, it's the only game I can think of to compare it to) where you'd just 1-2 shot every enemy and boss and shit. It didn't seem to do much.

Was I doing it wrong or something?
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>>167515838
no apology is owed, chat dipshits are not a moral issue and i don't blame anyone for having a job in entertainment, or playing a game in a way i think is boring. i'm just noting, this is what's happening, the game is currently under the critical scrutiny of twitch chat so of course the conversation is going to be nonsense for two weeks
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>2 days 8 hours ago
>719 posts

wew lad, glad to see this shit will be off /vg/ in a few weeks.
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Going to check all my local stores tomorrow to see if they broke street date.
Will I be B& if I play it early if I do get it?
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>>167517945
No
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>>167517661
the debuffs work on bosses. so for example you can sloth a boss and then it's easy to dodge every attack, or you can curse muneshige's stamina and then crit him over and over

also if you stack every damage buff your damage is insane
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>>167517945
I doubt it.
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>>167517661
Buffs stack.

Using defensive buffs with offensive buffs and Sloth is beyond retarded. Use all buffs with spirit active and pull of a ying-yang debuff and watch everything in the game melt
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yo when will it let me preload this shit gmae
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>>167517806
the game isn't even out yet
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>>167516232
why not just buy the deluxe edition and save 5 dollarydoos?
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>game started out being panned by subhumans during the alpha for being too hard
>game ended up being the most broken game in its subgenre, surpassing shit like running firestorm with absolutely no glitches involved
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>>167518691

Whats Sloth do?
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>>167510453
My guy
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>>167519728
>the game lets you have fun
>no need to bow to faggots crying for "muh balents" for their foreverial broken PVP shit

Thank merciful fuck. Everything fun in Souls games has been ruined by talentless shitters trying to impose their will as if the game was made for PVP somehow, when it was never meant for it.
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>>167519891
Also you can parry the long range attacks of the chain sickle.
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>>167519914
Nioh is getting pvp, so we'll see what happens after that
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>>167519773
Reduces enemy speed/actions by a a lot
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>>167517806

What do you mean with this?
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>>167520649
His trying to let everyone in the thread know that his Autism is flaring up.
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Do we know what exactly the three DLC items are? I might play with my EU account that doesn't have the two that aren't Mask of the Conqueror.
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>>167522247
You mean the ones you unlock for playing the demos?
They're various helmets inspired by the bosses.
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>>167522247
We've known for months...
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>>167522479
I mean whether they're actually worth a shit. Trying to decide on whether it's worth giving up on two of them.
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>>167522541
Like stats wise?
Their stats aren't really important because of the reforge/refashion abilities.
When you reach end game you just give your favorite gear any appearance you like.
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>>167522541
>I mean whether they're actually worth a shit.
Dude, speak english.
They're digital contant for a digital product, you're dealing in shit that isn't worth a shit.
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>Shit-for-brains Power Gamers
>Whining the game is too easy if you minmax obsessively

Every fucking game in these sub-genre is a fucking cakewalk when you spec yourself properly. Every fucking time.

No exceptions.
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>>167522718
Do items go poof if you use them to refashion other items? Or is it like an unlock system that you just unlock different skins once you've picked up an item with its skin?
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>>167522802
I'm just going off of Peeve's stream for the time being, but it seems like you really don't have to min/max much at all. All he did was complete the Hanzo set and he could suddenly tear through everything.
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>>167522892
the item you copy the appearance of is consumed.
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>>167523080
>>167523080
>All he did was complete the Hanzo set
Oh so all he did was grab a top tier item?

The game balance couldn't possibly be THAT bad.

Fuck, Ibet they neutered the entire game so that tasteless Japanese shitstains might play it.
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>>167523231
>top tier
It was level 45 and he got it from a dojo mission. He got exotic copies of most of it the first time he cleared it, too. It seems kind of fucked up.
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>>167523497
>It was level 45 and he got it from a dojo mission
Dude. He collected a full fucking set with bonus buffs for full set status.

Shit's top tier.
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>>167523604
This

That's like getting a +10 weapon in DaS2 super early and then complaining that you deleted several bosses.
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>>167523231
>>167523497
>>167523604
The Iga set?

I'm using it, i've been using it since day 1. There are better sets out there though. It just depends on what you want to do. Iga is great for ninjutsu spam
>>
maek new tread
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>>167523765
That's not really a good example, since you can't actually do that in any of the souls games. Getting a +6 before Farron Watchers in DS3 is a better example, though this is notably worse than that.
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>>167524157
>That's not really a good example, since you can't actually do that in any of the souls games.
Yes you can. in SotFS you can rush straight to Bastille and Bellkeeper your way to +10 after killing just a couple bosses.

Seriously. Not exaggerating. Look it up. SotFS allows INSANELY early +10
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if I change my locale to NA and I buy it digitally can I play on the 7th? would I have to make a new profile and not have ps plus or would using a non NA credit card fuck me over
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Demon's Souls is really easy to break, you have stuff like the Thief's Ring which you pick up in the first level, you have magic builds which you can start as, you have Second Chance, etc. 99% of the bosses are also really easy. No one complains about it. It's still a really enjoyable game, and people rank it as one of the best Souls games sometimes.

Nioh is a new game however... and suddenly every game needs to be super hard to be good for some reason according to these people, they took the "Git Gud" "Prepare to Die" memes to heart and it warped their viewpoint. I'm a Souls fan and seeing the attitude of other fans is painful to watch.

From what I've seen the game punishes your mistakes, the damage you take is high if you mess up, so I can't see what people are complaining about. There are Twilight Missions and stuff for people who want even more challenge, must every mission be extremely difficult for those that grasp its combat well in order to be good? I don't think so.

Dark Souls 2 tried to cater to these people and we got huge hordes of enemies and such things, which didn't even make the game that much harder, just overall worse, all because "Prepare to Die".
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>>167524328
This

>Kill Last Giant
>Kill Pursuer
>Grab Dull Ember from Tower Apart Bonfire's chest
>Wake up McDuff
>He sells large shards
>Join bellkeepers
>Earn chunks and even a slab as a reward.

Shit, I think Mcduff even gives you a SECOND slab if you spend enough money at his shop.
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>>167523160
but you can take that new item and make another take its appearance right
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>>167524579
You'd have to buy it NA to be able to start playing NA time, why the fuck would you put so much effort into at most getting a twelve hour head-start?

Think rationally dude, its a game. Go jack off and take a nap, holy shit man.
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>>167523160
>the item you copy the appearance of is consumed.
But... that's wrong?
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>>167525008
as long as you have an item with a certain appearance you can keep transferringt it over any number of times.
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>>167523834
>I'm using it, i've been using it since day 1
>since day 1

You've been using it since two days after today?
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>>167525743
Tons of people have gotten the game early idort
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>>167523834
Nice. I wonder what set bonuses Otani Yoshitsugu's set gives. I'm really excited to get that one.
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>>167524157
>That's not really a good example, since you can't actually do that in any of the souls games.
In Dark souls you can bypass bosses and hit +9 on several wepaons without fighting a single enemy. As well as being able to max out holy and chaos iirc.
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>>167525875
comma after "early".

Day 1 means launch day, not the day someone got it early, idort.
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>>167526061
stfu idort
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>>167526536
>>167525875
>Still two days until launch.

Asspained xdrones already starting to shit up the thread.

This is why you're still a virgin.
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>>167525632
wait, you're right, only in soul match is the item consumed.
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>>167524586
>No one complains about it.
Not even true on sites like gaf. People bitch about how easy DeS is all the time, if this game really needs even less work put into it absolutely every thread about it will drown in the complaints.

Nioh already has autistic communities devoted to how hard the game is supposed to be. Unless it turns out that there's a second NG+ difficulty, the game is pretty obviously never going to come close to their expectations, so expect a huge influx of bitching from that alone.
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>>167514986
Knowledge of the encounters is way more important than anything else, is everyone else forgetting this?
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>>167525743
It's been my 4th or 5th day playing.

>>167525884
I dont think his set is wearable. Maybe I'm wrong, i havent gotten a single part.
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>>167527940
>It's been my 4th or 5th day playing.
see >>167526061
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>>167527940
>I dont think his set is wearable.

>i havent gotten a single part.


Are you by any chance retarded?
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>>167514732
>The broken shit in Souls requires actual execution and skin, and sometimes just pure luck hoping you get a certain drop from a unique enemy.

That's actually, factually wrong. As every game has a class which gives you a straight sword as a starting weapon which are all OP at max levels, and each one has a means of upgrading to max with next to no interaction with enemies.
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>>167528169
Like I said, maybe i'm wrong. I haven't see it at all, on revenants or as a drop.
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can someone with the game show me the option descriptions of these two clan bonuses? I don't fully understand them

2% atk for each heavy armor equipped?
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>>167528636
>Like I said, maybe i'm wrong.
But the very fact you made a statement to begin with, even though you haven't gotten a single piece shows you're a fuckign retard, doesn't matter how many times you say "oh buh duh muhbe im rong"
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WE GOT FUCKING DUPED INTO HYPING UP AND PREORDERING A PIECE OF SHIT WITH NO BALANCE
FUCK WESTERN GAMES
FUCK JAPANESE GAMES
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>>167522479
So the digital deluxe comes with five weapons. My question is does the digital deluxe come with the weapons because that is the bonus of it or do the weapons come with the season pass which the digital deluxe comes bundled?
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>>167529198
>literal shitpost
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>>167527704
all games that are even remotely successful, and even most games that aren't, are going to have autistic communities from now until the death of the internet
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