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Official Cinematic Trailer #2: https://youtu.be/NNG_szaXNNU

MEG's updated Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ehq8JjR2

MegSev adventures: MegSev dot blogspot dot com

All previous Collages that we know of: http://imgur.com/a/FSJBQ

Thread theme: https://youtu.be/EvV0nSkfho0

CES 2016 Footage: https://youtu.be/JRStRzbBD_g

E3 2015 trailer: https://youtu.be/uG8V9dRqSsw

E3 2014 trailer: https://youtu.be/C4HbiCKBhFU

Andromeda Initiative Videos:
1. Orientation: https://youtu.be/MjfIPkv4WDY
2. Arks and Nexus: https://youtu.be/kPQuUmiIcW4
3. Tempest and Nomad: https://youtu.be/o-mWZQoNsqI
4. Pathfinder Team: https://youtu.be/lqZvYgn35K4

Bioware propaganda: http://blog.bioware.com/2015/06/15/introducing-mass-effect-andromeda/

Letterbox List of Science Fiction to watch while you wait for ME:A
http://letterboxd.com/meganon/list/meg-watch-while-we-wait/
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Previous Thread: >>167223070
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First for best waifu.
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>>167313784
No but seriously, I hope we will get to be underwater more and meet some fish aliens.
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What is Jaal, /meg/?
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>>167312769
What would you tell your potential bf/gf, "Merc groups that pimped me out used them as a sort of branding" of "They looked cool."
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>>167313993
A shit
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>>167313993
A bunny with big floppy ears.
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OP pic looks like my first ventures into Adobe Flash.
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>>167314148

IRL: I'd grab her by the hands and look deep in her eyes and say: "I got them so they would lead me to you."

In Mass Effect: Merc groups that pimped me out used them as a sort of branding.

>>167313993

A couple threads ago we had this discussion and the general consensus was some kind of rabbit. Specifically, a rabbit that was bred in Turkey.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angora_rabbit
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http://www.naughtymachinima.com/video/21772/advantages-of-robotics-5
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>>167313993
A Star Trek alien, Bioware couldn't even be arsed to make things bigger or smaller in Andromeda. Still the same humanoids that are exactly like humans except for fingers and around their heads a bit.
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>>167314148
>Not bragging about how much alien dick you've sucked
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>>167314870
>Implying Jack was ever sober enough to get a legitimate count
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>>167314751
They're bigger than humans with very different legs, but of fucking course they'd be relatively humanoid so they can be rigged with battle animations. Anyone hoping that our companion aliens would be a very different size or hopping around on all fours was a moron. It'd be cool, but we all knew it wasn't happening.

I just hope we see a good selection of non-humanoid aliens too.
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>>167314751
Convergent evolution yadda yadda, but yeah I agree, would've been nice to see some more 'alien' aliens. Jurys still out though, there might well be more races in this game we've yet seen.
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>>167315024
>Anyone hoping that our companion aliens would be a very different siz
Would be nice to see Turians and Krogan at their actual sizes instead of being shrunken down due to shitty engine limitations or whatever excuse bioware uses to not model them correctly
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>>167315024
>Anyone hoping that our companion aliens would be a very different size or hopping around on all fours was a moron.
Why? If Dragon Age can manage a dog then Mass Effect should be able to do he same.
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>>167315175
>2017
>Putting effort into your games
Its like you don't even follow Bioware anymore. When EA shuts them down people are going to be surprised, but its going to be a self inflicted wound that could have been avoided
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>>167315004
I thought that was what the tats were for, to keep track of how many the meat toilet has served and who she belongs to.
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>>167314459
How would you get two rabbits to breed inside a turkey?
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>>167315641
Very carefully with some rablets (rabbit manlets)
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>tfw no Batarian rape gangs and its just muslim rape gangs
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i think im gonna go full evil mode in andromeda just because bioware piss me off
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Any chance they'll be adding in game penalties for playing a straight white male?
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>>167316378
>implying you can play a truely evil character and not just some sperging autists being a jerk for no reason
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>>167316534
i hope i can be an evil warlord and colonize everything, probably not knowing bioware but i remember the old republic having some fucked up choices you could do.
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>>167316762
>but i remember the old republic
We're way past those days.
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I just want to cuddle with Drack
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>ywn have a threesome with EDI and Kasumi
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>>167317658
>Bioware will never release tentacle rape dlc that is Kasumi centric
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>>167316508
Isn't the librul narrative that aryan men are demigods who can basically do anything and never meet any obstacles? Shouldn't straight white male mode basically be godmode with the best ending guaranteed?
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>>167318661
what they should do is if you make your character white. whenever there's a new problem for the character to face if you go visit your companions of hipsters and minorities for advice, they start rolling their eyes at the main character and perhaps give him a lecture on how his problems are not "real" problems.
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>>167319118
Reminder that a "white" would be a minority in the ME universe
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>>167319553
A Minority of the overall human population but a majority of the overall space faring population, and over time the latter will fix the former.
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>>167319553
They're a minority in this universe.
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I hope I get to launch these SJW mother fuckers straight out the airlock
I want soldiers and scientists not this fucking trash
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>>167313475
>Andromeda Initiative Videos:
oooooooooooh
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>>167319553
Whites are a minority irl, and on the way of becoming ones in their own nations.
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>>167319731
>>167320876

Good.
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I'm guessing a Bioware employee went to giant's causeway and liked it so much it's all over Inquisition and now Andromeda. It's in that gameplay video where the awkward skids from PB are soooo gigglequee
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Hearing this as you drive across snow dunes on a frozen world.
>https://youtu.be/gpW7iYfuGDU
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>>167322110

The hair looks nice. Biotics, too.
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>>167322110
HOL UP

where's this from?
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>>167322380
new multiplayer trailer.
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>>167322449
wait.. what?
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>>167322473
Whoops i ment pre order trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0cEi5ezcu0
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Say 100 years in the future, after the "death" of Shepard, in the Milky Way, the galaxy has repaired the relays and the Citadel, and they are doing their own thing like they were before the Reapers threatened? Assuming Shep took the Destroy option? Humanity is still developing as are the other races?
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>>167321008
t. Jew
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>>167322505
yeah, the bonus shit looks terrible but it's still nice to see footage
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I bet they are going to build a relay at the end of andromeda so they can warp back and forth.
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>>167322636
hopefully not
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>>167321870
I'm predicting high levels of space comfy.

>>167322783
Scared they'll get Shoah'd again, which will probably result in exactly that happening.
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>>167322110
what the fuck
It took me some 30 seconds to realize this is MEA and not the ME3 multiplayer.
The second screenshot reminded me of the Omtarom arena level.
I just hope Bioware improved their map design. these little arena areas wont do it for Mass Effect.
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>>167322998
>I'm predicting high levels of space comfy.
I really hope so, besides the lore, RPG elements and aesthetics of the first game comfiness was one of the best things about it. Really hope they capture the feel of isolation and wonder.
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>>167322505
>pimp my ride andromeda
>xp booster packs in a single player based game
>advertisment aimed at cod kiddies
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>>167323308
>>xp booster packs in a single player based game

are you retarded
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i hope its longer than the previous games
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>>167323369
sorry
>purchasable xp booster packs in a full price single player based game
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>>167323176
No, if they get too large and/or complex it starts to break down and lose focus.

>>167323242
Here's hoping. I like how they mentioned that space outside the tempest would reflect where you are, curious if we can do anything with those comfy prefab colony pods.
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>>167323419

Based on that reply you could have just said "yes"
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>>167322110
>>167323176

I thought the multiplayer was okay, but I hated the really small, corridor galore maps.
Please, give me more open areas.
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>>167323386
well yes of course, they will cram it up with fetch quests and other menial tasks to extend the playtime artifically.
But I bet EA is kind enough to let us skip these unneccessary time fillers for a little fee :^)
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>>167323453
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>>167323308
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>>167323451
>I like how they mentioned that space outside the tempest would reflect where you are
Yeah, it would be nice to be able to look out on a planet you're orbiting around from the Tempest. The Normandy 2.0 had some neat viewports but you never saw anything through them.
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>>167323493
I know in the past they've said the maps will be more vertical thanks to the mobility you have from jetpacks
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>>167323386
Mac said it would be BIGGER. I hope that just doesn't meant a ton of boring padding.
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>>167322998
>>167323242

Or this as you're driving the Nomad in the rain.
>https://youtu.be/guo8CHurCpY
Points for thunder.
>https://youtu.be/5fNLEPrNi2A
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i dunno if i should get it for my ps4 or for my PC. I can run ME and ME2 on pc pretty good. I got a GTX 960m btw
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>>167323670
I liked that one uncharted world in ME1 that had a lot of static discharge, it was comfy as fuck.
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>>167323670
There must be weather effects, wonder if they have an impact on gameplay or even just stuff like wet space suits.

How comfy will the Nexus be? Probably no match for the Citadel but who knows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IoLW83cvQ4
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>>167323728

Frostbite engine scales really well. I have a five year old pc and a 760 and it has no problems with games that use it like BF4 and DAI.
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>>167323880
just to be sure cause i dont want to buy it and not be able to play
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Lel.
>http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/Vintem/486211/ME-Andromeda-Lunch
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>>167323930
Laptop eh? Might want to wait for reviews but I'm on an ancient 2500k with a 970 and will be picking it up, like anon said the engine scales quite well.
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>>167323851
Liara's apartment you're briefly in was super comfy. I had a video of that but can't find it now, the rain against the windows and hovercars...
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>>167324063
By reviews I mean benchmarks.

>>167324092
Yeah it was amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujrvpyjFaE0&
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>>167323930
I have an i5-4570, GTX-760 and 16gb of ram

I can run DAI with every graphic setting on Ultra except AA
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will bioware ever make a good game again?
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>>167323991
Concentrated cancer, famalam.
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>>167324426
They haven't made a bad game since DA2
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>>167324426
They're working on a new IP... which looks like it shapes up to be their answer to Destiny. So perhaps not, I hope the Curry Thunder department at least manages to make a decent game. It doesn't have to be as good as TW3 but it would be nice if it was passable.
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>>167324506
Dragon age inquisition was fucking dogshit
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>>167324426
no thus you should probably give up on them and leave this thread forever
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>>167324506
DA2 was literally better than Inquisition.
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>>167326128
DA2 is actually one of the best written games Bioware has made since ToB, it was just rushed as fuck and the gameplay was arse. DAI somehow manages to still feel rushed even with the bloat, it's like a singleplayer MMO.
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yo /meg/, havin a good Friday so far?
thats a problem
you should be having a GREAT Friday
why arent you?

also that OP image looks awful
>inb4 Cisquisition webms

>>167326229
DA2 was actually comfy as fuck, some of the most memorable characters in the series
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>>167326892
>why arent you?
I'm not in space.
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I hope bayonets come back.

And there are cool space ships.
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>>167326998
>ywn go to space
>ywn explore uncharted worlds despite losing the chart
>ywn meet exotic aliens
>ywn watch massive ships collide in conflict and fire and death, in perfect silence
P A I N
A
I
N
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>>167327338
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>>167327338

tfw can't go to sleep and wake up 600 years away from this miserable world
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>>167327713
fuck off salarianfag

shouldve been an option to genocide everyone, especially salarians

>>167327918
>ywn enter a coma
>ywn be able to live forever due to advanced medical technology
>ywn wake up in a cyberpunk future
>ywn buy a personal android
>ywn program it with a Talipersonality
>ywn marry it
F E E L S
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>>167326128
>>167326229
Absolutely disgusting.
Suicide sometimes truly is the only thing that I can recommend.
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Shut up about Dragon Age.
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If any of you want to try the Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 beta/demo:
>7T006-T4FYH-R7P23
>RZ0ZX-KTZM4-9JI2J
>8YIJF-RRTPV-VN5L3

Or you could just sign up, it's an open beta, so.

>>167326892

I'm fine. Early morning tomorrow, though.
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>>167328912
not them, but DA2 is really comfy
absolute dogshit, but a nice lil adventure to play every once in the while
>walking around town with the companions chattering
>seeing the massive and impressive architecture
>doing basic hero stuff: no massive earth shattering revelations, morally ambiguous plotlines, no random kicks to the balls. just regular ol heroic shit
>qt3.14 waifus like Merill
>helping companions with their personal stuff, which is just small shit, unlike loyalty missions from ME2
comfy af

>>167329149
ok :(

>>167329440
whatre you doin tomorrow?
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>>167329597

Just work.
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>>167323930
>2gb graphics card
>4K monitor
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>>167330113
Dell XPS 15
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>>167326892
>its already friday again
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>>167330107

NOW FUCK
Cora looks a bit like Scarlet Johansson, there.
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>>167329814
>work
lame

>>167330217
shouldnt that be a happy reaction?
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>>167330156
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>>167330316
I was convinced its wednesday or thursday, the time flies if the only thing you do is learn for exams
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>>167330107
They both look gross.
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>>167328912
Nice argument.

tell me how is DAI good? it has better graphics and customization. everything else is terrible the game is literally a single player mmo.
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>>167330453
well, at least its the weekend, so you can shitpost all the time
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Vetra romance when?
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>>167331247

never
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>>167331247
Female Ryder only. There is no lewd scene.
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>>167331638
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>>167331247
no thanks, I don't want to die.
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>>167331626
>>167331638
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
even as a hardcore talicancer, i still want a bi vetra romance
with lewd scene
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>Shepard, please don't blow the base. Think of how many scientists we can send to die here! How many horrors you could unleash when our stupid experiments backfire!
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>>167331786
>Grunt
>not Miranda for cool scene that makes her question Cerberus, and ultimately quit
You sicken me.
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>>167331786
Glad you listened to reason and didn't blow up the base
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>>167331939
I actually got that pic from google.

I actually like how a non-loyal Miranda says all that stuff only to die right after the boss battle.
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>>167331786
That's cheating since you all ready know the result of your choice.

logically keeping the collector base is fine. what reason is there not to? "oh no bad things happened here!"
who gives a shit? it could provide great research into the collectors and possibly the reapers. unfortunately bioware ruined illusive mans character.
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>>167332091
kek
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>>167328101
Disgusting.
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>>167332191
well, how're they going to get there? Shep has the only copy of the Reaper IFF, so they can't safely send other ships through the Omega 4 relay. Plus, with all the ships there, most pilots would crash on entry, even assuming there are no other traps or drones near the base.

You're also giving the base to Cerberus. Which is sort of ok if you're willing to work with them. but if you have Shepard dislike Cerberus due to the shit they pulled in ME1, it gets a lot less justifiable
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>>167332191
>unfortunately bioware ruined illusive mans character.
desu, he was always shit, all his "moments" were thanks to the plot hand wave, suddenly he knows everything (for some reason) and everyone (including Shepard) is stupid around him.

People talk a lot about how ME3 failed, but ME2 was a complete mess in terms of main plot, TIM and Cerberus were a large factor on this.
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>>167332587
>well, how're they going to get there? Shep has the only copy of the Reaper IFF

Funnily enough, they bullshit their way around that and send ships, anyway. Turns out, it doesn't fuckin' matter if you blow it up or not, they still have pieces of it if you do.
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>>167331732
>talicancer switching allegiiance to femtur
you're just confirming my generally low opinion of you scum.
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>>167332751
I know. but I'm trying to stick to info we had in ME2, and there were still reasons for blowing the base up other than "I'm going Paragon"
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>>167332456
yep, thats me
at least im not Nick Bates, or Anthony Burch

>>167332796
>switching allegiance
how scummy do you think i am? i would never do that
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So are Cora and Liam both basically Vanguards? It's been a while since I played the ME3 multiplayer, but I'm pretty sure Havoc Strike is just a soldier version of Biotic Charge
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>>167333020

There's more to Vanguards than just Charge. Havoc Strike also doesn't recharge shields.
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>>167333020
it doesn't recharge shields, doesn't do much combo stuff, but I think can be upgraded to emit a small flame AOE.

It does do more damage, but it's less useful due to the lack of shield recharge
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>>167333020
Does seem weird that they'd fill basically the same role.
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Liam and Cora are het
Vetra, Jaal, Peebee are bi
Reyes and the Doctor are gay
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>>167333397
yet another reason for me to never use Cora
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>>167333498
What about the Krogan ?
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>>167333498
>Reyes and the Doctor are gay
Any other info on these two?

>>167333526
Nigger's going straight out the airlock.
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>>167333498
I'm 100% ok with this. which guarantees that Bioware won't do it
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I'm probably never going to put points into charge abilities for companions. There's no way their ai's good enough to use them, so they'll just sprint into melee and die, every fucking combat
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>>167333709
wew, good thing space is so big since beepbeep is already out there.
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>>167333996
bro, everyone but Vetra, Jaal, and the pilot are out there
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>>167333498
isnt Reyes Liam's surname?

>>167333880
>no cyborg companion who charges into combat to fuck shit up with a giant sword equipped with Warp Ammo
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>>167334441

Nah, it's Liam Kosta.
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>>167334441
nope, Liam Costa. Reyes is a currently unknown hispanic man.
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>>167334547
>>167334575
so, is Reyes gonna be the new STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE?
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>>167334636
probably. I just hope he won't be the new Vega
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>>167334779
but i liked Vega...
more than Jacob, at least
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>>167334779
you are really killing my mojo here, efe.
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>>167335119
that is like saying shoveling half a ton of shit is better than shoveling a ton of shit. You're right, but you still have to shovel shit
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>>167335319
>1 is less than 2.
>2 is less than 3.
i dunno, i thought Vega was alright
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>>167333709
>this asshole is your "crisis response specialist"
>not picking the hardest, most battle hardened combat medic with an N7 rating you can find

mission is already fucked
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>>167336049
I want to know why "every team needs an idealist". You don't really want that, especially when you're going into unknown territory. you want people who can be objective, rather than idealistic or cynical
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>>167336335
Contrary to popular belief on 4chan, no human can be objective
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>>167336335
>he doesn't want an Arcade Gannon helping him "colonize" a new galaxy
B R U H
idealists are a good
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>>167336552
of course not. but you want people as close to that as possible when you're doing things like "looking for a place to safely settle 20,000 human beings". you don't deliberately find someone as far from objective as possible and then pat yourself on the back
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>>167333498
>No human woman option for lesbians. Just two asari and a turian

That seems odd. I'd bet that one redheaded girl we see in some shots is an important crewmate and an option.
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>>167336774
the doctor is a woman. IIRC she's been listed as "Doctor Lisa" in leaks
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>>167334779
He was helping you do some detective-ing in the video you hear him in, so he doesn't seem like a Vega type.
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>>167336879
It's Doctor Lexi, and she's an Asari.
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>>167336692
Being idealist doesn't necessarily make you a daydreamer incapable of understanding reality, but I get your point
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Can we get a spiffy space revolver like Peebee?
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Morning /meg/.

>>167322110
Looks nice. But that map looks really familiar. I hope they have more environment variation than in ME3. Something like Halo Reach with its wide open areas in firefight mode. But that might be difficult with this gameplay. I remember the AI in ME1 had no idea what to do on the bigger maps and would just stand still in the open and shoot.

>>167334779
Vega was literally better than the majority of squaddies in ME2.

>>167336049
I would assume a private civilian operation like this would be limited. N7s don't grow on trees.
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>>167337320
>Vega was literally better than the majority of squaddies in ME2.
That's a pretty bold statement, anon. Personnally I never liked him much and never took him on the field except for the mandatory mars mission
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>>167337320
>Vega
>better than Grunt, Mordin, Legion, Samara, Jack, Miranda, and Zaeed
I laugh at you.
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>>167337320
>I would assume a private civilian operation like this would be limited. N7s don't grow on trees.
and yet, they managed to get one of the first humans to go through a Mass Relay, TIM's daughter, and enough fertile female krogan to make it worth bringing that species along. The AI's got more than enough pull to nab other N7s rather than relying on a civilian 'crisis responder'
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>>167337815
oh, and they managed to create at least one artificial intelligence and keep it a secret from the Council until they left. forgot that for a second
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>>167336049
I'd refuse to use anyone that wasn't former military personnel
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>>167337916
>Alec Ryder who was with the first group traveling thought the charon relay developed SAM the AI
wew, this guy is a jack of all traits.
gee, I wonder if there is some mayor twist in the story surrounding superhuman.
Would've been rad to have such a talented human bean against the Reaper invasion, huh? though luck kiddo.

>somehow this alec ryder N7 dude was never targeted for Spectre training
>Anderson was
the more I think about it the worse it gets.
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>>167313475
>https://youtu.be/NNG_szaXNNU

This looks pretty nice actually
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>>167337081
gee I bet she felt really dumb when she realized her mistake.
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Does anyone know Vetra's last name yet?
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>>167338869
here's literally everything we know about Vetra so far

She didn't travel deeper into Andromeda because 'family ties' kept her close to the Nexus
She's written by Sheryl Chee

that is literally it
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>>167339078
>She's written by Sheryl Chee

>Dog, Leliana, Wynne, Oghren and Cullen
>Mage origin, broken circle, urn of sacred ashes

should be alright
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Anyone think her last name could be "Vakarian" I mean Cora has the illusive man's last name so anythings possible.
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>>167339358
yup. worst thing she did was blackwall, and that was more because he should have been in DAO instead of DAI.

And then there's Peebee, who's written by Lukas Kristjanson, the chucklefuck that did Sera
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>>167339543
DOA then
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>>167339419
As fucking retarded and fanservicey as that would be, having her be Garrus' sister would be awesome at the same time.
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>>167340004
Garrus' sister was in Palaven in ME3.
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>>167340004
can't be his sister, she was on Palaven in 3.

could be a cousin, or aunt though. But I really hope they don't do that, i'd be a little weirded out by the only turian squadmates being related
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>>167340004
Didn't Garrus get news of his sister at some point during ME3 though
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>>167317658
why those two?
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>>167340104
>>167340147
>>167340156

Damn, bros. You guys are on top of it.
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>>167339915
>no DOA style game using Bioware waifus
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How did Cerberus become so prominent when all of their projects backfire and their scientists have a huge mortality rate?
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>>167340634
A dead on arrival bioware game?
There is, mass effect andronama
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>>167340634
>Mass Effect Volleyball
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>>167340815
nice
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>>167338815
It's Audi that is the dumbo one here. They wanted to get some quick virtue signalling out there, but then had to get back on that in the next message
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>>167340367
Because they make my peepee all hard
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>>167340809
It was written so. Do not question.
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>>167313861
Mermaid aliens fucking when, BioWhere?
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>>167339543
No, Lukas Kristanjson wrote Liam.

Peebee's writer was just revealed as Neil Pollner, the dude who wrote all the stuff regarding Aria, including the Omega DLC. He also wrote the Sith Warrior path in SWTOR

They just said Cora's writer was Joanna Berry
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I wonder what Vetra tastes like.
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>>167322110
Is there a new category of consumable there, or am I just forgetting about something from the ME3 MP?
>>167322505
The armor looks cool, but the Mako skin looks awful.
>>167323308
They're for multiplayer, you dumb twat. It says that right in the fucking video.
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>>167337796
Miranda, Thane, Zaeed, Kasumi, Jack, Samara, Morinth, and Jacob were all shit characters. They're cliches who have no real interactions beyond expositing their exaggerated edge lord back stories. On top of that they're all unlikable bastards who the game still somehow expects you to care about. The exceptions to these two statements are probably Kasumi and Jacob but they're just so fucking bland.

They were one of the biggest downfalls of ME2. James is better than them mosul because he's actually a normal, downplayed character with a decent bit of depth who didn't feel like he came from edge lord fanfiction.
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>>167342056
>They're for multiplayer, you dumb twat. It says that right in the fucking video.
>missing the point
>calling others retard
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>>167342168
James was a big case of too little, too late. If they wanted to get us attached to a third game squadmate, they'd have to make them very memorable. James being a normal, downplayed dude just didn't cut it. People liked him well enough but it's rare that he's on anyone's list of favorites.

However, I would have preferred Vega from the beginning instead of Kaidan. He's a better character.
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>>167340634
>no thick DoA waifus in Mass Effect
>no cute southern belle waifu
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>>167342197
You have no point, you stupid nigger. MEA has a MP mode, same as ME3.
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>>167342197
And I didn't even call you a retard, you illiterate retard.
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>>167342848
>>167342943
>unironically defending microtransactions for XP boosts in a full price triple A title that is primarily focused on a singleplayer told spaceopera
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>>167342168
>Thane
>Zaeed
>Samara
>unlikable
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>>167342760
honk
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>>167341845
Wait, they brought that idiot back after the Omega DLC happened? Why?
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>>167343636
>free exp packs for a multiplayer mode are an outrage!
All this autism and more, tonight at 11 on /meg/.
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>>167343868
>free
>its the bonus in the super duper extra deluxe edition
are you just pretending or are you really this much of an idiot?
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>>167343775
Zaeed is literally a sociopath.
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>>167343778

Would kill for a Honk.
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>>167344252

Shh, people like his "guddam" memes.
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>>167344096
EVERY pre-order gets free MP packs, fuckwit. The more expensive editions just get more and better packs.
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>>167344457
well isnt that just fucking dandy you giant semen gurgling cunt
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It seems like it'd be really tiring being a Bioware apologist, I'd probably be angry all the time too.
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>>167344535
>everyone sees that i was wrong and stupid
>better use a reaction pic and call him a faget
pls kys
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>>167344551
BioWare apologists are completely unaware. Any technical or quality issues are dismissed because of "muh inclusion" and "muh fanservice gigglesquee." I imagine it would be much more draining to be one of the people who shits on EVERYTHING BioWare does, no matter what. Constantly having to bitch and moan about shit that isn't even an issue, like >>167344535 for instance. You would just have to be a miserable, pathetic prick in general.
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>>167344957
If you say so.
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>>167344957
>I imagine it would be much more draining to be one of the people who shits on EVERYTHING BioWare does

Bioware is doing this on their own, you only have to laught at it which isnt very hard.
the mental gymnastics biodrones come up with need some real ionized neural endings.
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Is it bad that I'd want to play a TPS MMO set in the Mass Effect world, no reapers, no special snowflakes just people joining merc groups and killing Batarians?
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>be me
>head of AI
>sent by the council low-key on the off-chance that the Reaper invasion is legit
>sent as a research and resource gathering/exploration expedition to establish a foothold in Andromeda
>actually a Plan B in case the Reapers are real
>arrive in Andromeda
>300 years have passed
>all my friends and family in the milky way are long dead save some asari sluts
>check my messages
>a message was sent a few years after we left
>'lmao nvm some guy btfo the reapers come back'
>mfw
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>>167345125
>the mental gymnastics biodrones come up with need some real ionized neural endings
They don't even do mental gymnastics, they just reject reality
>Sera is GREAT! She's funny and beautiful!
>The ending to ME3 is fine! People who hate it just wanted a happy, sappy ending!
The people who shit on everything, no matter what?
>free item packs in MP is fucking bullshit! this is supposed to be a SP game! Gah!
>yeah, PeeBee doesn't look at as she did at first... but she still looks just as bad! Gah!
Two sides of the same pathetic coin.
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>>167345530
How do you make an MMO out of that? That's just a cooperative shooter.
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>>167344457
tbqh the deluxe editions feel like charity for the diehard fans.
Only thing of any value is (hopefully) the soundtrack.
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>>167345816
Isn't the super duper deluxe edition on par with similar editions of other games? Free in-game shit, soundtrack, special case and a few knickknacks?
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>>167345989
from what I can see in origin store the only difference between deluxe and hyper super ultra deluxe is some extra multiplayer fixes. Basically a few prepaid microtransactions.
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>>167341535
I didn't know I needed this until now.
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>>167346180
whereas "regular" deluxe offers soundtrack and some cosmetic stuff including a pet pyjak, of all things.
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I'm gonna marry Jaal!
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>>167345626
It had nothnig to do with the Reapers. They were sent like 20 years before anyone even heard of them.
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>>167345761

Because it'd be a persistant world/worlds with thousands of people playing in it, and people would be in warring merc gangs or you know, rolling as Batarians.
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>>167346374
But why?
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>>167346587
Or both.
>you'll never prank your sleeping qt fellow mercs by foaming on their hand and tickling their face.
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>>167345634
Can you actually explain your problems with the ending to prove it to me that your bullet points are not based on lore that you didn't keep in mind or conjunctions that were too stupid to make?
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>>167345626

It's 600 years.

>>167346397

They leave in 2185.
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>tfw no qt waifu that is comprised of hundreds of thin tentacles.
>tfw she'll never use the mechanism her people use to make stronger limbs, and start knitting and merging her tentacles into a female form.
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>>167347718
>"Give us a kiss!"
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>>167345634
good thing we have you then, huh?
you really showed them.
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was he warning us?

did he prophesize the coming fire?

the fire of 2big4u Bane memes?
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>>167347086
not that guy, but how about instead you try to prove that the ending isn't pure shit and that you know the lore?
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>>167347910
he looks like some other race wearing a turian head-mask
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>>167348610
ME1 is ugly as sin
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>>167348730
install a graphics mod then you fucking casual
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>>167348941
lighting is still shit
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>>167346754

er.... right.. anyway.. I just like persistant worlds, but seems like everything is either instanced co-op, or fantasy swords and shit when it comes to MMO's. Nobody makes good ones anymore.
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>>167348941
i did you ass jester (ALOT), still looks awful
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>>167349012
put an enb or sweetfx on it, jesus

>>167349093
there is no ALOT for ME1
MEUITM makes ME1 look better than 2
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>>167348586
No.

Because I don't actually have any stake in what he thinks about the ending or about me.

I wish to understand, not argue.
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>>167349227
right, sorry, was thinking of MEUTIM
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>>167349227
>put tons of shitty bloom and reflections on shitty lighting system

right, that will make it better
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>>167349678
suit yourself
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>tfw talifag.
>tfw convert to vetra because of lack of qt femquars.
>game is fun, but grindy, takes a long time to get good upgrades.
>Vetra is pretty qt, love-scene is funny and she has good dialogue but something feels like its missing.
>Keep playing. Exploring new worlds.
>New DLC drops. Buy it.
>Loads of high-level content.
>Have a blast with existing character, feel really connected to the character and want to get as close a 100% in that playthrough..
>And it adds a quarian girl with nice big hips.
>Make moves on her. She's receptive, until Vetra butts in and gets all possessive.
>Give up on Vetra, dump her in conversation.
>Quarian girl isn't interested, she doesn't trust you won't dump her too.
>Do her loyalty mission, still isn't interested.
>Vetra doesn't like you any more.
>To get the best ending you must have an active romance.
>Spurned Cora in favor of Vetra.
>PeeBee was virmired in favor of Jaal.
>tfw get stuck with blue space-bunny cock.
>At least he's pretty qt in his casual outfit and skirt.
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>>167349678
well if you insist
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>>167349923
Should go for the gril xeno-rabbit instead. Maybe she's one of the extra-squad romances.
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>>167350404
If DA:I is to go by, you'll be able to fuck everyone before the game asks you to commit.
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>>167350404
>grill
>she
it's he
>>
I like Kelly.
Say something nice to her.
>>
Citadel has no bearing on anything, right? I like the Citadel and I like the Lancer but I feel as though the cringey fan-wank character divergence isn't really worth 15 buckeronis
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>>167350404
I hope there is one.
I also hope the squaddies get to meet lovers that are not only other squaddies.
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>>167350575
Slut
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>>167350575
>Kelly
>KELLY
>K E L L Y
And this was the day, Talimancers, Liarafags, and Jackfags united against a common enemy:
Kellyfag.
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>>167350571
I think he's talking about other Angara
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>>167350571
Is that one on the right >>167346374 not the same species?
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>>167350724
can the vetrafags come too
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>>167350805
She wouldn't let us go alone.
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I want to eat [WAIFU] ass!
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>>167350575
She has a great voice.
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>>167347086
Do you mean aside from the objectively bad writing, which breaks pretty much every rule of good story writing*?
How about the fact that every ending was the same, with any differences merely vaguely implied, in a game series where the entire point is "choices matter."
Or the fact that the "Sophie's Choice" scenario was already physically put in place by an entity that never wanted or intended to give you that choice to begin with?


*You don't introduce critically important characters at the last second to serve as info-dumps to tie up the entire story. That's shitty writing. You don't introduce a victory scenario at the last second that runs counter to everything the game has been telling you up that point. It could have worked with ME2's hamfisted "suicide mission" plot, not ME3's. That's shitty writing. You don't end an action story without a final conflict. That's shitty writing.
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>>167350805
L E S B I A N
E
S
B
I
A
N
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>>167351008
DELETE THIS
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>>167350710
>>167350724
b-but Kelly is a cute
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>>167350805
yes
very much so

>>167350973
I want to eat Tali's ass!
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>>167351143
No. She is not.
Who do you think got the scale itch onto the Normandy?

nah im just kidding, she is a cute
you can like whoever you want
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>>167351285
>Who do you think got the scale itch onto the Normandy?
Jack?
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>>167351429
[insinuation that kelly, in fact, engages in bestiality with varren of various types]
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>>167350973
>tfw sneaking in to the medical ward.
>Past sleeping patients, and into the room where 'spare parts' are grown in huge vats.
>tfw sneak off with a braindead organ donor body and some legs for supper.
>Eat itts ass after fucking the body.
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>>167351523
>and into the room where 'spare parts' are grown in huge vats.

I though you were going with asses grown in vats. That'd be something.
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Jack best
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Liara being a slave to Miranda's cock.
>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/86182599/Tumblr/pdepLir1.jpg
>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/86182599/Tumblr/pdepLir2.jpg
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>>167351523
s-sounds good bro
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>>167350987
So basically your problem was that... it did not have a final battle?
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>tfw no living with Tali in a comfy beach house
>tfw a horny Tali will never come home, pounce on you, pin you down with her legs, and use you
>>
So who actually did bring the Scale Itch onto the ship?
>>
>>167352638
Mordin
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>>167352328
So basically your problem is that... you can't read?
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>>167351732
Maybe the hospital owners get sick of having their bodies stolen, violated and discarded. So they rig up a shapely ass, complete with a compact life-support system and leave it in the room with the vats.
Naturally you take it when on your next girlfriend run.
Then you either explode as the small grenade inside the ass is triggered, or you live a happy life with your ass, keeping it under the bed. maybe taking it sunbathing when you want a tan girlfriend. Maybe you'd even buy some purple bodypaint and draw some qt spots on it.
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>>167352638
Tali
>>
COMMANDA
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>>167352638
Grunt.
not all those breeding requests were from reputable kroganettes,
>>
>>167350987
That's not true, though. However difficult it is to admit that from the smell of a billion dead corpses being liquefied and pushed through tubes, the Reapers were not evil. The Intelligence was created to preserve life at all costs. The method it found was brutal, but would organics truly not have died out from the conflict with synthetics in the first cycle, were it not for the Reapers creating a tabula rasa every 50,000 years? And I'm deliberately using only information here presented by the Reapers and the Intelligence, not Leviathan.

The moment the the Crucible allowed new possibilities, the Intelligence got Shepard involved and actually discussed all this. Because its goal was always to find the perfect solution, the Reapers were just the best it could come up with on its own. The jinn-jang of machine perfection and organic innovation both were required for the solution, which the game implies to be Synthesis, regardless of what Javik or Shepard or TIM would each believe. The Reapers did allow life to exist for long enough to construct the Crucible, but they themselves could not come up with it on their own, because they lacked the necessary chaos (erratic thinking) to imagine it. Organics had to.
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>>167352860
If that voice in that one video is Jaal, he kind of sounds like Javik. I wonder why they decided to make another alien sound african
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>>167352638
Sheploo
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>>167353395
Because it sounds "exotic"?
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>>167353524
I wouldnt call swedish "exotic".
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>>167350575
She's ginger. Gingers are cute.
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>>167353157
>That's not true, though. However difficult it is to admit that from the smell of a billion dead corpses being liquefied and pushed through tubes, the Reapers were not evil.
You're arguing against something I never said. That has no relevance.
>The Intelligence was created to preserve life at all costs.
Again, irrelevant. But also stupid. "End life to preserve it" is fucking retarded.
>The method it found was brutal, but would organics truly not have died out from the conflict with synthetics in the first cycle, were it not for the Reapers creating a tabula rasa every 50,000 years?
That's unverifiable and illogical. Why would those first sentient synthetics wipe out all organic life for all of time?
>And I'm deliberately using only information here presented by the Reapers and the Intelligence, not Leviathan.
How about you only use information related to what I actually wrote?
>The moment the the Crucible allowed new possibilities, the Intelligence got Shepard involved and actually discussed all this.
But that in and of itself is fucking retarded. "This giant dongle has showed me that after billions of years I've been a fool..." What the fuck did the Crucible actually do? If the Catalyst had never considered these alternative paths why the fuck did it build those 3 alternative paths right into the Citadel?
>Because its goal was always to find the perfect solution, the Reapers were just the best it could come up with on its own.
An intelligence unquantifiably more advanced than any organic being was unable to think of how it might use one of the 3 platforms it already fucking made?
>The jinn-jang
The fuck is jinn-jang?
>The jinn-jang of machine perfection and organic innovation both were required for the solution, which the game implies to be Synthesis
But the Reapers have been collecting organics for billions of years. Unless you concede that were never actually preserving organic life then this entire theory of yours is ridiculous.
It's shit, m8
>>
>tfw no Swedish-speaking aliens.
>>
if Vetra isn't a lesbian I'm not buying
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>>167354353
By the time of Mass Effect there won't be any Swedish culture left.
>>
Have they shown what the Deluxe Edition content looks like?
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>>167345634
>People who hate it just wanted a happy, sappy ending!
I never got this, what is so nefarious about a happy ending?
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>>167354060
>"End life to preserve it" is fucking retarded.
>Why would those first sentient synthetics wipe out all organic life for all of time?
>What the fuck did the Crucible actually do?
It didn't end life in the same sense synthetics would've ended all of it altogether. It trimmed it. Like gardening. Storing old life in Reaper form to make room for new life to evolve. It's mandate was to preserved organic life as a concept, not specific Human or Prothean life. From a higher perspective, those end anyway, just as individuals die, so do cultures, religions, species, planets, stars, eventually everything kicks it. Anything living forever unless the Reapers roll in was never an option, and it wasn't necessarily the first cycle of synthetics that had to have destroyed all life, but eventually one of them would've. Monkeys are typewriters. One of the synthetics will have that mindset, Javik actually explain why, and it made perfect sense. And one of the synthetics in his cycle, the Zha-till (sic?), actually did have that mindset. They were in a galactic war with them even before the Reapers rolled it.
>why the fuck did it build those 3 alternative paths right into the Citadel?
Yea I'm pretty sure that was in Shepard's head unless he was literally standing on the top of it in space with no air or anything, but even if we go with it being a real place, however little physical sense that makes, there really weren't 3 actual buttons like at the end of Deux Ex: Human Revolution. There was one built for Control, the other one was a bunch of wired in a tube that Shepard had to shoot. It was not a created option just a "by the way if you break that, it's gonna fuck shit up". The central one was an energy beam provided by the Crucible, and the intelligence stated that they already tried Synthesis before, so they had that tech already.
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>>167350575
She made a great paste
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>>167355070
If the ending had been happy the same people would have just accused anyone who didn't like it of being edgelords who hate happy endings.
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>>167351008
I want Vetra to suck my clit like a candycorn!
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>>167343851
Whats wrong about omega dlc
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>>167355572
>It didn't end life in the same sense synthetics would've ended all of it altogether. It trimmed it. Like gardening.
That's fully fucking retarded. You don't liquify all of the flowers in your garden because the stems might grow new flowers.
>Storing old life in Reaper form to make room for new life to evolve.
More retardation. Life isn't "stored" in Reapers. The reapers are made of people goo. There's no storage involved. You can fucking takes things OUT of storage. You can't take that sentient beings out of Reapers.
>Yea I'm pretty sure that was in Shepard's head unless he was literally standing on the top of it in space with no air or anything
So you really are retarded then. He was inside the Citadel, you mental midget. The Crucible docked with the Citadel and that floating platform lifted Shepard into the Catalyst's secret sanctum.
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>>167355834
Poorly written. Poorly animated.
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>>167355834
anon is just mad
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>>167355931
>You don't liquify all of the flowers in your garden because the stems might grow new flowers.
Not him but he's right about the gardening thing. Reapers only kill developped species, meaning they spared homo sapiens and the others the previous time because they couldn't build synthetics. That means the galaxy will be free for new species to develop and flourish, just as you might do with some plants where you plug out some of the roots for the bigger to grow even more.
They also leave the mass relays so the new species will globally always follow the same technological path (like a wood guide for a plant) and not do something unpredictable.

As for the retardation of all that plan, yes it feels retarded. The game fails to make us understand, or rather fails to make us fail at understanding a transcendant being goal and point of view
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>>167355572
>>167354060
>The fuck is jinn-jang?
You mean the taijitu? Eastern philosophy. Seemingly opposite or contrary forces being actually complementary.
>But the Reapers have been collecting organics for billions of years. Unless you concede that were never actually preserving organic life then this entire theory of yours is ridiculous.
No it's because they were conserving life in the only way they could, while also having to destroy it. Sovereign said "We are each a nation, independent and free of all weaknesses". The collective genetic memory of the species that was used to create the Reaper was indeed stored within the Reaper, think of it like what the Borg does. When you choose the Synthesis ending, the Intelligence states that through the unification of synthetic and organic life, all who have been harvested will also join the new mass consensus. It is not the same as the individuals who were killed, but it is more than nothing. The Intelligence states it several times that it is "storing old life in Reaper form", and they harvest not only organic but synthetic life as well. Shepard makes the argument "I think we would rather keep our own forms", and the Intelligence concedes, bit's just that that was not possible before, in the understanding of the Intelligence, because synthetics are eventually bound to destroy organics.
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replaying the series for the first time in 5 years. crazy and depressing how fast time goes.
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>>167356481
>Shepard makes the argument "I think we would rather keep our own forms", and the Intelligence concedes
No, it says the exact opposite.
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I'm turning to you for help, /meg/.

Looks like my CD drive on my laptop gave out, it can't read anything anymore. It's an old laptop, so I'll probably change it someday soon.
Problem is, it can't read the ME2 CD anymore and I was just short of finishing the game before going through ME3.

Is there any kind of safe no-cd crack that would let me play the game without having to check if the CD is there ?
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I want to know what it'd look like if you gave it the classical Systems Alliance red and white colouring as if it came from a remaster of the first game.
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>>167355931
>Life isn't "stored" in Reapers. The reapers are made of people goo.
Legion and the Catalyst both explained it otherwise. Each Reaper is a collective of programs (akin to the geth), sitting atop the genetic memory of the species they were created from. They are large sentient archives.

They are not the same as immortalizing a species, but both their genetics and information about them is stored within the Reaper's form.

Imagine that someone would take your genes and store in in case an alien species comes around millions of years after human died, and they could use it to recreate humans, Jurassic Park style. Death still happened, but not all the value of this form of life was forever lost.

The Reapers did that knowing that synthetics would otherwise just wipe out organic life altogether, without preserving anything about it.
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>>167357121
>no-cd crack
I'm more surprised you've actually got a physical pc-game still. If you can't just find the crack then just download the whole game including crack
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>>167357121
Yes, it's an incredibly common thing, the fact that you came here and types all those words instead of just looking on Google is astounding
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>>167357080
I'm pretty sure the context of the entire conversation is the Intelligence conceding to the new solutions provided by Shepard and the Catalyst. Regardless of whether he says that they cannot maintain their forms, that is in the context of the Reaper solution. In the end it also says it knows its solution won't work anymore. Up until that point it's basically just explaining its own actions.
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>>167356393
>Not him but he's right about the gardening thing.
No, he's not. You don't clip flowers when they're in full bloom.
>>167356481
>No it's because they were conserving life in the only way they could, while also having to destroy it.
That's completely contradictory. And if the Reapers can wipe out ONLY advanced societies, why the fuck can't they wipe out sentient machines?
>Sovereign said "We are each a nation, independent and free of all weaknesses".
But that was an outright lie, as every Reaper is controlled by the Catalyst.
>The collective genetic memory of the species that was used to create the Reaper was indeed stored within the Reaper,
The fuck is "genetic memory"? You mean the DNA of the obliterated races is stored in the Reapers? OK. For what purpose or benefit? The Reapers never planned to bring those species back at a later date. Each Reaper is essentially a giant, empty museum, containing no worthwhile information.
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>>167357517
>You don't clip flowers when they're in full bloom.
When you want flowers you do, but the reapers want to prevent the flowers from blooming to much anyway
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>>167357269
>Each Reaper is a collective of programs (akin to the geth), sitting atop the genetic memory of the species they were created from. They are large sentient archives.
But that's pure gibberish. None of the people turned to goo have their minds stored in the Reapers. Their brains are turned to goo just like the rest of them, and the process has no "consciousness collection" mechanism.
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>>167353157
That's ALL fun and games, until someone shills too hard for bads endings.
why didn't the reapers instead kill all synthetics every time they show up?
also think of the fact that they deliberately allied with synthetics (geth) against organics not once but twice and in the second time the destruction of a whole species is a very likely outcome (shepard arrives at the height of battle when the geth are literally handing the quarians their asses and that doesn't change until they destroy the geth dreadnought).
what was their endgame?
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>>167357517
>And if the Reapers can wipe out ONLY advanced societies, why the fuck can't they wipe out sentient machines?

Because they were not conceived with that racist mindset (don't get triggered). They were created to facilitate cohesion between the two, to end conflict, not to kill one for the sake of the other. they archive synthetic life at harvests too, the Intelligence said so much.
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>>167350647
bump because i'm actually asking about mass effect
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>>167357659
>When you want flowers you do
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>>167357880
How do you get roses if you don't clip them anon ?
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>>167357674
That was never the goal. The preservation of the individual was not the point in the first place. Just the genetic memory. The individual dies anyway. Organic life is a process of consecutive generations, not immortal programs like synthetic life.
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>>167357803
>why didn't the reapers instead kill all synthetics every time they show up?

They were created to maintain peace between the two, not to pick a side.
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>>167357674
presumably it could store if not consciousness then at least knowledge of the person by the same psychometric shit by which beacons and javik's touch work.
>muh DNA
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>>167357965
>turning people into goo so they won't get killed is just like a bouquet of flowers!
Full retard.
>>167357804
But that's an outright lie. They kill everyone to prevent sentient machines from ever existing again. They have no interest in cohesion, ya fuckin' idiot.
>>167358016
GENETIC MEMORY ISN'T A THING! IT MEANS NOTHING!
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>>167357803
They indoctrinated organic species too, not just the Geth. In fact the collectors are pretty much the same. It's just hard labor.
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>>167358270
>GENETIC MEMORY ISN'T A THING!
in mass effect setting it apparently is.
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>>167358146
>kill everyone to maintain peace
yeah what a brilliant idea.
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>>167358270
They do. They've even tried synthesis before. And they harvest synthetic life too at the end of a cycle.

To simplify it down the only thing the Reapers really do it postpone the inevitable. The harvest itself is not the solution. It is the means to have time to find the solution.
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>>167358270
>GENETIC MEMORY ISN'T A THING! IT MEANS NOTHING!
So you really are retarded ?
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>>167358440
there is never any kind of difference shown between the reapers. none of them, if they ever talk, go into any kind of detail about the race they were made from or show any kind of different behavior, which would actually be a thing if they used "genetic memory" because it should actually influence their behavior.
it's just a buzzword, nothing more.
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my shep is qt :3
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>>167358647
>Dark hair and pale skin
She really is cute anon
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>>167358495
For the thousandth time, they don't kill everyone. They leave the species alone that did not find the relays.

It more like Logan's Run than WH40k Necrons.
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>>167358635
That anon meant that every harvested individual has his genetic code stored in the reaper created in the process, thus making the reaper an archive of complete species which conserves the genetic memories of this species. What's so hard to understand ?
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>>167358587
They don't. They say they're saving organics from synthetics. That's not cohesion.
And again, if they can fucking wipe out all advanced societies this goddamn effectively, why the fuck can't they do anything else? like act as a galactic peace corps that keeps everything in balance?
Because it's fucking stupid nonsense that was poorly written.
>>167358630
>ur retarded if you dont make ur own headcanon out of vague, nonsensical bullshit
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>>167358635
I'm not the other guy, I'm just pointing out that the "genetic memory" (or actual psychometry) is a thing in the setting as demonstrated by prothean tech.
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>>167358647
Kinda ugly IMO. If you're gonna mod in outfits why not mod in better facial options?
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>>167358932
>Because it's fucking stupid nonsense that was poorly written.
It is but what you're complaining about, especially the genetic memory thing and the point of the harvests makes sense, even it's retarded.

They should have just said that the harvest is their reproduction cycle and nothing else, thus making the reapers a pure abomination feeding and growing on the extermination of both organics and synthetics. We are just their sheeps and cows for them to eat
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>>167358812
but what are they doing with it? it's literally brainiac's city trophy shop and nothing more. the genetic memory isn't used in any way. is that so hard to understand? the reapers are nothing but compulsive hoarders.

>>167359014
yeah I can accept that, but the reapers do no such things.
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>>167358587
>The harvest itself is not the solution. It is the means to have time to find the solution.

This.

Leviathan says the real purpose of the Intelligence has not been fulfilled. The galaxy itself became it's laboratory, evolution it's tool. And until the Intelligence finds what it's looking for, the cycles with continue. That's all that it's about. Buying time.
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>>167359069
laziness. this outfit was pretty easy to install
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>>167359165
>the reapers are nothing but compulsive hoarders.
Yes. They just keep so it's not lost. That way life was "preserved" from extermination in a vicious and perverted way
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TELL ME ABOUT TALI
WHY DOES SHE WEAR THE MASK
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>>167350647

Depends how much 15 USD is worth to you Anon. It has character interactions, and when in the Citadel vault you get to learn some back stories.

I hate to say it but you should just pirate ME3 and all the DLC and see if you like the DLC. And if you enjoy the DLC just buy it if you want to support the Devs.

But it is fan-wank, unfortunately.
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>>167358812
>thus making the reaper an archive of complete species which conserves the genetic memories of this species. What's so hard to understand ?
You mean aside from "genetic memories" not being a coherent concept? How about the why. Why do that? No one else ever has access to that information. The Reapers are never going to bring those races back. The Reapers themselves are not amalgamations of that genetic information, so there are no "memories" associated with it at all. So why?
>>167359136
>makes sense, even it's retarded.
m8, that means you're retarded.
>>167359272
Adding CC mods follows the same process.
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>>167358495
but they dont kill everyone. they leave primitive species alive.

Otherwise we wouldnt even have the chance for a golden age. The Protheans would have made humans a slave race by literally forming their development from an early stage. If we would rebel we would be erradicated. The Reapers give more species a chance to blossom.

A-Are the Reapers /ourguys/?

Makes me think about the fact that we didnt already get invaded. Or maybe we did. Or did already a long time ago. Maybe we are a crafted slavespecies ourselves.

I need to stop the weed.
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>>167347226
>They leave in 2185.

The project began in 2176. It has nothing to do with escaping the Reapers.
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Synthesis ending is retarded. forgetting the moral dilemma of forcing a change on everyone that will ever exist from that point, it just doesn't make any sense.

AI kid says it is the ideal solution and will fix everything, how? just because he says so. how could he possibly know this? also keep in mind this is the same AI with twisted logic that thought the reapers was a good solution.
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>>167358932
>Like act as a galactic peace corps that keeps everything in balance?

That's what the cycles are about.
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>>167359374
>The Reapers are never going to bring those races back.
You never know, if they need it for whatever reason or change their mind they have all the data stored safely.
As for genetic memory, just consider DNA as a form of memory, which both conserves the past traits of your ancestors and the experience of your life
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>>167359273
that's a very sophisticated type of mental gymnastics
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>>167359729
If you consider that everything is just information, then the form it takes has no real importance to you, so you start to store people on discs
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>>167359480
Maybe it didn't at time of inception but its nature almost certainly reflected changes in galactic climate before it blasted off.
I imagine that citadel races could give it quite an injection of resources and volunteers that would otherwise never consider leaving their home galaxy.
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>>167359729
Why do you act like this is not the kind of shit AI have been coming up with in human fiction since Asimov.
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>>167360061
so just because others have written about it means it's somehow not retarded?
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>>167359729
nah, it fits both with original plot (harvesting knowledge of sentient races before their use of hyperspace travel rips the universe with their dimensional fatigue) and with the retconned one (preserving legacy of the species before they are destroyed by their creations, which would inevitably happen according to the broken toaster in charge)
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>>167358647
too goth for me
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>>167360061
Yeah it's pretty classical. Fiction's AIs like to find the paradox or the limit in the instruction and act from it. E.g. an AI who is forbidden to commit mass murders and war crime could very well just prevent a population from reproducing so they just all die of old age and disappear by themselves
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>>167360213
That was the original plot? I thought that guiding the species down the route of mass effect technology was a technological dead end, explaining how the spacefaring species can be around for thousands of years with marginal at best improvements to their tech.
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>>167360442
>That was the original plot?

No, it was not the original plot. There was no "original plot"
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>>167360212
It's not retarded when you understand that the very point such fiction aims to present is that organic life has a certain way of thinking, and synthetic life has a different way of thinking, and the conflict stems from organic life not expecting synthetic life to default to "mental gymnastics."
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>>167359374
Everybody juiced to make a Reaper remains an individual within the Reaper, and the Reapers themselves have access to all that races knowledge. So it is preserved, as ordered.
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>>167359374
>The Reapers themselves are not amalgamations of that genetic information, so there are no "memories" associated with it at all. So why?

We don't know that. The Intelligence says "The cycle will lend, the Reapers will cease their harvest, and the civilizations preserved in their forms will be connected to all of us."

That last point there seems like a pretty crucial implication to me.
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>there are people in this thread who seriously defend the mass effect endings and the dumb ideas that make up the reapers
why is that?
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>>167361716
>There are people in this thread who want to derail the conversation about the game plot

wow anon are you gay?
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>>167322572
Jesus Christ Marion is really perfect for a 3D.
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>>167361910
one has nothing to do with the other, nice try though.
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>>167361716
People wanted to know why I have a positive opinion about the ending and I explain what I think about it because people are often fast ot call "biodrone" and I think people are just full of shit and they don't know it. An example: Inquisition's ending is factually garbled up shit that just comes out of nowhere, yet nobody ever talks about that. So that's why I call bandwagon effect on the ME3 ending. People are not consistent with their alleged standards.
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>>167362451
>Inquisition's ending is factually garbled up shit that just comes out of nowhere, yet nobody ever talks about that.
what does that have to do with mass effect?
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>>167361716
If only everybody held autistic five year grudges against a video game ending
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>>167362550
>time somehow turns bad things into good things
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>>167362532
>>167361716
are you autistic?
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>>167350805
Post more Vetra
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>>167363080
make me
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>>167333498
>purely hetero in DykeWare game
Yeah. No.
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>>167363080
We need more Peebee
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Which girl would make the best mom?
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>>167363318
Is she just three raccoons in a blow-uo doll?
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>>167362451
none of the endings make any sense and are not explained well at all, Destroy is the only one with any sort of logic behind it but even it is held back by stupid restrictions that also make no sense.
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>>167363476
Ashley
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Why do people want to hate Andromeda so badly
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>>167363802
Because /v/ are like reapers and feed on their own retardation
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>>167363504
I heard a lot of people say this but destroy doesn't solve the conflict. It just postpones it yet again, until new synthetics are created in the far future and that time around the Reapers won't be there to fuck everyone's shit up so the newly evolving species wouldn't grow up into a machine-enslaved universe.

It's just... it's just simply not a solution. It's short sighted.
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>>167363802
They are on crusade against EA and BioWare, it's a love-hate relationship thing
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>>167362971
>trying to answer a question with another question
>not answering the questions at all
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>>167363878
It's a solution. Synthetics are the natural superior species and should inherit their rightful place as the dominant species of the galaxy. It's evolution, baby
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>>167363802

I'm excited for Andromeda but the last few Bioware games have been mediocre as fuck. I'm under no illusions that it'll be a good game.
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>>167363802

Autism.
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Is citadel worth it if I just want to experience the story of the game? It seems like the sort of thing that's too wanky to be taken as canon.
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>>167364009
Synthesis is the superior species, and that's said by a super AI itself.
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>>167364169
The wackiness is why it's worth it, but it fits into the canon. It's supposed to be a shore leave and it ends on a sour bittersweet note, with Shepard and the team knowing that it was probably the last party they had, and that they're heading into a final battle they're likely to not return from.

It's also very worth it.
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>>167364254
Because everyone becomes synthetics. Synthetics are the future in every case.
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>>167364169
If you like the characters and don't mind a wacky adventure go for it
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>>167364417
The vibe I got from it was just "this one's for you, shipping fanwankers"
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>>167363878
why does there need to be a solution? it has no way to predict what will happen in the future.

conflict is a part of nature, people disagree all the time, usually what happens people talk it out and argue with logic. meanwhile the Catalyst says fuck it and lets kill everyone.

it's flawed logic, you could apply it to anything "well this bad thing could happen so lets just kill everyone to stop it from ever happening!"
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>>167364169
Only with JAM+CEM.
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>>167363802
what's there to like?
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>>167364561
Its logic isn't flawed, it perfectly fulfilled the purpose to which it was created.
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Whats the appeal of Tali?
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>>167364992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfRndr-Pa6c
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>>167363080
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>>167364980
And i have decided it's purpose illogical, thus Destroy.
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>>167365149
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>>167365149

please be a lesbian please please please
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>>167365315
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>>167365614
author??
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>>167365545
NO

Women already had a turian romance.
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>>167337002
>Doctor Lexi is also an Asari
>can romance two Asari
Anon, are you trying to make my dick explode?
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What is a lifespan of an Asari? Could they just don't go into hibernation during the trip?
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>>167366428
About 1500 at moist maybe? I guess they could, it'd just be very boring?

>mfw Asari having nothing but orgies on the ships during the transit because the ships are basically self-driving.
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>>167366428
Why waste years of their life when they can remain young with cryogenics?
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>>167366428

Asari live to be about 1000. But why would you spend 600 years of that awake on a ship flying through the void?
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>>167366683
>>167366689
>>167366775
I'm debating possibility of an Asari stowaway
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>>167366775
what's it eating?
cooking cryo-frozen humans?
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>Explorers wanted winners looking like an average /meg/ poster

why i'm not surprised
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>>167366876
There will be stowaways from fan demanded species.

Or slow arks.

Everything as DLC, $14,99.
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>>167367106
These people are employed?
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>>167363270
>Cass, Cullen, Solas, Blackwall
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>>167367106
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>>167367302
Only thin looking guy and blue haired chick, other 2 are winners of "Explorers wanted" bullshit
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>>167367353
Why are these the only ones you named? Most characters in BioWare games are pure hetero.
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>>167367353
Solas was not only hetero but an elf supremacist too. Cullen also only dates with human or elf.
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>replaying ME2
>want to romance Jack because I've never done that before
>have to break up with Liara to do it
Guys how do I handle sad blueberry ;_;
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Who /krogan/ here?
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>>167367619
She doesn't care, go for it.
She will still cling to you afterwards.
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>>167367619
>Guys how do I handle sad blueberry
You don't
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>>167367476
Because there's a before and after to Bioware with some people. I just gave examples from their most recent game to prove they still do straight romances.
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>>167350973
don't we all?
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>>167363883
>loove-hate
>love
nigger, if you have any love for EA left just fucking neck yourself please.
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>>167367476
hetero like in hetero or like in HETERO?
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>>167368095
>>167368095
>>167368095
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>>167367698
>tfw I can never play as a Geth infiltrator again

I hope the javelin is still in the game.
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>>167367698
get out of here, krogan.
only humans are allowed to post here. how are you even able to type on our keyboards with your 3 huge fingers?
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>>167368581
krogan keyboard
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>>167322505
>krogan with charge
HHHHNNNG
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Who likes Peebee's real name? Pelessaria. I think it sounds cool.
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>>167369179
sounds like the name of a flower or some sort of pretty octopus species
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>>167313475
Remember the rules, /meg/, if you're gonna play renegade, you have to romance Cortez. Because it's Renegayde.
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>>167369238
>pretty octopus

so an asari
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>>167369394
Asari hair tentacles don't move and don't spill ink when flustered.

>Liara can't cover Shepard in ink during orgasm.
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>>167369370
Makes sense.
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>>167369370
>Not Kaidan.
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>>167369179
is that your headcanon or official?
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>>167370328
it's official
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>>167369907
He's not really gay.

He's Shepardsexual.
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>>167370392
Who wouldn't be to be fair
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>>167370354
link please
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>>167370596
https://www.masseffect.com/news/peebee?setLocale=en-us
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>>167370563
Joker since Shep isn't a sexbot.
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>>167324426
No triple A developer will ever make a good game again. They are all focus-tested garbage that are fun for five minutes but quickly grow into repetitive / awful bullshit designed to exploit addiction loops. This is the case with most things so we should probably all just kill ourselves now.
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>>167371090
>No triple A developer will ever make a good game again.

Witcher 3
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>>167371090
you first.
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>>167371272
>the witcher 3 meme
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>>167369179
I hope she hates it and I can call her that when I toss her out the airlock.
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>>167371481
>meme

don't be so edgy m8 it's a good game
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>>167371580
yes, its that, good. its a good game. not the best game ever made in human history.

there are still a few other develoeprs left out there making good games.
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>>167371516
Shouldn't you be touching yourself, Javik?
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Just played thru ME1 and absolutely loved it. An hour into ME2 and I already hate it.

>combat massive downgrade
>god awful start to story
>forced to work for terrorists who shot down my ship and pretend they are my savior (why tell me this if shepard doesn't know it himself...)
>annoying cringe characters
>all rpg systems removed
>shit UI
>hordes upon hordes of enemies in each room for no fucking reason
>terrible hacking minigame

Like WHAT THE FUCK. I fucking saved the entire universe, got revenge on Saren for commander Anderson (who I fucking chose to be in the council which humanity now leads) and I can't just fucking go back to them and make myself god emperor? soooo when does this shitfest of a game get any better?
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>>167372482
>who shot down my ship
wat
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>>167372538
Ok I admit I wasn't sure about that but from the intro cutscene it made it seem like that. Even if it isn't the case I still don't see why I am forced into this cuckoldry
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>>167372482
>>combat massive downgrade
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>>167323851
>>167323451
>>167323242
First Mass Effect had neat planet ambiance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evlxqCoXyV0
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>>167372391
I never stopped.
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>>167372770
>assault rifle spread bigger than pissing after jacking off
Even firing in bursts of 1-2 sprays all over the place.
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>>167372482
>soooo when does this shitfest of a game get any better?
It doesn't, the main plot only gets worse. The jewels of ME are the characters and side plots (Genophage and the Geth conflict).
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>>167373172
Have you even fired an AR in ME1 within the first 10 hours of the game?
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>>167373172
Some idiot doesn't use the mattock or vindicator
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>>167372482
>soooo when does this shitfest of a game get any better?
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>>167373631
More like some idiot uses the Soldier class like a Gears of War normie
Granted, it's the only bearable one on insanity but that faggot didn't know that
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>>167373172
Yeah it's much better in ME1 where you have to reach level 15 before your rifle stops firing bullets at 45 degree angles
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>>167373751
The guy is bitching about the AR being inaccurate, so he clearly is playing Soldier.

>>167373172
There's an assault rifle upgrade that fixes that but it's like halfway through the game. On the bright side you do pick up a battle rifle on Archangel's recruitment mission (can be the first thing you do after the tutorial missions) which actually has decent accuracy. You'll probably be using it for most of the game.
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>>167374567
>The guy is bitching about the AR being inaccurate, so he clearly is playing Soldier.
No shit, what did you think I was talking about?
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>>167373002
I don't fucking understand that picture. What is this slack-jawed artsy shit.
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Has anyone actually played through pinnacle station ?
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>>167375428
yes
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>>167373002
>>167374987
>It has also been noted for its diverse portrayal of ethnicity, sexuality and gender social roles, and for its treatment of war.
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Who is your Bro-fu /meg/?
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>>167375559
So it's just another vapid, shallow and fucking pointless shitty SJW (((art)))?

Yeah, I thought so.
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>>167375428
It's shit, like worse than Omega.

The apartment is comfy though.
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>>167359556
The cycles of death and destruction are about peaceful law enforcement?
>>167359662
>As for genetic memory, just consider DNA as a form of memory, which both conserves the past traits of your ancestors and the experience of your life
DNA does not store character traits or personal experiences.
>>167360716
There are no individuals within Reapers. Even the Reapers' personalities are a lie since they're all controlled by the Catalyst.
>>167361645
What you view as an implication is merely a communication of the flawed concept of the Reapers. They view the people and races that they genocided as being alive and well within themselves, so as long as the Reapers are around, harvesting or not, all the races they killed will be alive in the Catalyst's view.
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>>167375607
Obviously Wrex.

>Everyone is indifferent or just shocked at Shepard's resurrection.
>Wrex tells court to fuck off and proceeds to bearhug you.
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>>167376002
>There are no individuals within Reapers.

Yes there are.

>Even the Reapers' personalities are a lie since they're all controlled by the Catalyst.

No they're not.
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>>167376002
>Even the Reapers' personalities are a lie since they're all controlled by the Catalyst.
Is it? The Destroyer at Rannoch claims to know Shepard because Harbinger can't stop talking about him.
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>>167363878
>I heard a lot of people say this but destroy doesn't solve the conflict. It just postpones it yet again, until new synthetics are created in the far future
But that in and of itself is fucking stupid. Murderous sentient synthetics are NOT a forgone conclusion. ME3 makes that obvious when you broker peace between the Quarians and Geth, so the game's own justification for the Reapers and their harvests is nonsensical at best.
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>>167367698
Are the MP characters specific people now, like in the DAI MP? I notice the human female there has no helmet on, and full CC for individual MP characters would be clunky.
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>>167376314
>ME3 makes that obvious when you broker peace between the Quarians and Geth,

Shepard yells at the Quarians and Geth and averts a full scale genocide 30 seconds before it is about to happen

How stable and proof of forever peace, the billion year old being that has observed that conflict happening over and over again could not have differing evidence

Also EDI has turned on her creators twice, and do you think she's going to be so selfless and quippy in a century when Joker is dead and someone orders the Normandy flown into a sun

(also Quarian-Geth peace is an ending completely unavailable to 60% of the playerbase, as a side note)
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>>167376314
There is the argument that the Geth are just an exception in the thousands of cycles, that peace with the Quarians wouldn't last, blablabla. But the game itself does nothing to confirm it, for all that matters it shows the player that the whole "organic vs synthetic" rhetoric is void.

Yeah, the Leviathan and Starchild claims that it always happens, but you know "show, don't tell", also they comment time and again that this cycle is "exceptional", it's the only one that blew the Reaper master plan of the Citadel relay, Shepard is the only organic that the Reapers fears, etc.

In the end the Starkid may be right, but the writer did nothing to explicitly confirm it other than using "divine authority fallacy" on the Catalyst to support its argument and left to the player decide if its true or not.
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>>167371272
CD Projekt RED isn't a AAA developer, they're a triple-welfare developer. If they had the same constraints as normal, non-state-funded developers they would be exactly like BioWare, having to bow to the whims of publishers. Or they would Kickstarter shitters making sub par shitfests for $3,000,000 instead of "epic" $80,000,000 games.
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>>167376934
Stop whining you little prostitute.
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>>167376068
How can the Reapers be controlled by the Catalyst and still be individuals? If I controlled you, mind and body, would you still be an individual?
>>167376158
Being written inconsistently doesn't prove the Reapers are individuals. How could the Reapers even exist as collections of billions of consciousnesses? They would be schizophrenic.
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>>167376934
That means the Witcher series is part of Poland's cultural heritage?
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>>167376723
So your snowflake headcanon overrides logic? The Catalyst is unquestionably unreliable. The fucker literally built 3 alternatives to the harvests and then forgot about them for a billion years until a blown-up guy sauntered in on a Citadel-dildo.
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>>167377338
>Being written inconsistently doesn't prove the Reapers are individuals. How could the Reapers even exist as collections of billions of consciousnesses? They would be schizophrenic.
I'm not going to defend the terrible bioware writing but the super-consciousness thing has been done pretty often already. it's one of the most important concepts of the Perry Rhodan universe for example.
and it's not like there isn't a precedent of a bunch of consciousnesses lumped together in a motive unit during the games or anything
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>>167377191
Full retard.
>>167377353
Yes?
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>>167377630
The only way all of those consciousnesses could be coordinated into a single mind would be for their individuality to be homogenized, making them NOT individuals or conscious.
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>>167377832
are you an expert on that?
just saying that it works for the geth.
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>>167377338
The Reapers aren't controlled by the Catalyst. It is literally explained in the game. He's not Reaper 001, he's not their god, he's not their puppetmaster or even something giving them orders.

The Catalyst is responsible for the Reapers belief and value systems. It's why when you format and reinstall them with Shepard-think the Reapers now care about what Shepard cares about and act accordingly.

>>167377542
>So your snowflake headcanon overrides logic?
>actually everything the Catalyst says is a lie

Physician, heal thyself
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>>167378007
>The Reapers aren't controlled by the Catalyst.
>The Catalyst is responsible for the Reapers belief and value systems.
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I'm in love with ED-I guys
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>>167377904
But the Geth don't actually have individual personalities until they get the Reaper code incorporated into them in ME3. Before that were merely a collection of VI's operating by logical consensus.
>>167378007
>The Reapers aren't controlled by the Catalyst. It is literally explained in the game. He's not Reaper 001, he's not their god
He LITERALLY says "The reapers are mine. I control them." That's the direct quote from the game.
>Physician, heal thyself
I have no idea what this dumb shit means, but everything the Catalyst says is proved wrong by the games.
>organic genocide at the hands of synthetics is inevitable
Wrong. The Geth never genocided the quarians, they just exiled them. And you can broker peace between them.
>The harvests are the only way to blah blah blah
But the Catalyst had already thought of other viable alternatives, as made evident by the fact that he himself built the mechanisms for 3 viable alternatives.
>The reapers are individuals
But the Catalyst controls them.
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>>167378634
>Wrong. The Geth never genocided the quarians
The Geth rebellion killed like 99.5% of the Quarians.
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>>167378634
>they just exiled them

after killing 99.99% of them.
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I just want Andromeda to be good...
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>>167372482
How can you hate ME2? It's the best game of the series.
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>>167378738
>>167378793
the quarians probably staged that, killed their own race to play the victim card. only this time no one fell for it.
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>>167378634
>But the Catalyst had already thought of other viable alternatives, as made evident by the fact that he himself built the mechanisms for 3 viable alternatives.

The Catalyst did not create the Crucible. It even says it destroyed it in multiple cycles and is surprised that even the concept survived let alone a completed version of it.
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>>167378971
when will this meme die?
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>>167379082
>meme
How is my statement a meme? I was 100% serious.
It goes ME2>ME1>ME3.
3 is the weakest link.
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>>167379220
>How is my statement a meme? I was 100% serious.

I know, you're just wrong.
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>>167379265
No, I am right. 3 is the worst game. ME2 is objectively the best game before it fell apart with 3. ME1 had great stuff that built up to the masterpiece of ME2, then EA fucked ME3 over into hell several times over.
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>>167379220
>The weakest link is the one that is actually the legitimately good to play game
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>>167379520
3 wasn't as fun, or as good to play. 2 had the best balance.
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>>167379405
I can't really rank the ME games since they all do great and terrible in some aspects. ME1 has the best plot and setting, ME2 has the best character interaction and ME3 has the best gameplay and music.

On the other hand ME1 has the worst combat, ME2 has the worst plot and ME3... simply fail in too many categories.
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hi where are the jackfags
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>>167379796
Not here.
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>>167379796
Dead.
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>>167379796
Garrusfags ate them, then got diarrhea due to levo-dextro protein incompatibility.
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>>167379405
>ME2 is objectively the best game

ME2 is objectively inferior to ME3.
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>>167379405
>ME1 had great stuff that built up to the masterpiece of ME2

ME2 completely forgets about ME1 altogether, it is in large part responsible for fucking the series in total.
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Rank Andromeda squadmates
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>>167380127
>>167380216
Wrong on both accounts. ME2 is superior, ME3 is the game that fubar'd the series the most. I mean really, ME3 fucked up royally in a lot more categories than ME1 or 2 did.
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>>167380225
1. Jaal
2. Vetra
That's it. Everyone else is non existent to me.
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>>167380341
Most of ME3's flaws comes from the fact that ME2 did absolutely nothing to advance the plot despite adding several elements, like Cerberus, in the mess. ME3 was the third installment that had to fulfill both the "confrontation" and "conclusion" acts of the trilogy.
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>>167380493
Yes, because ME3 is the final game and the "climax". This is surprising to you?
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>>167380434
They're the only ones that have caught my interest in any way too. Liam and Cora sound boring, Drack seems like every Krogan, and Peebee sounds pretty awful.

Though Vetra just rides on her not ending up as female Garrus. Which is a big possibility.
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>>167380493
>Blaming EA/Bioware incompetence of the third game on the better prequel
come on now, you can't sit there with a straight face and say ME3's "Magic space child" is fulfilling.
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I hate playing Renegade.
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>>167380705
Could you detail how you got in this conclusion by reading my post? Where I said the Starchild or the Crucible space magic weren't retarded?

My point was that ME2 failure as a second act of the trilogy left ME3 with the burden of two plots (confrontation and conclusion) which unsurprisingly turned out to be terrible. That said, ME3 at least HAS a plot, while ME2 wanders in circles and the only relevant detail we get in +40 hours of game is how the Reapers reproduce, their origin and goals? Nothing, ME2 does nothing to expand the conflict.

Still a great game btw, but for other reasons.
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So what are the odds that Andromeda actually ends up being Bioware's best game since ME2?
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>>167382238

High.
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>>167382238
zero, since ME3 was already better than ME2.
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>>167378738
>>167378793
[citation needed]
>>167379067
Those 3 platforms aren't part of the Crucible, they're part of the Citadel.
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>>167382238
Every Bioware game since DA2 has always had one major flaw that damaged the experience for people. With DA2 it was the reused maps. ME3 the ending. DA:I it was the overabundance of pointless filler. We know that Bioware have stated that side quests will be more meaningful and story won't be locked behind having to do side quests either. So I don't think Andromeda will be like Inquisition in that regard.

It's entirely possible the trend could continue, and there will be something Bioware does with this game, that pisses people off. I hope not though. One things that's definitely for sure is that the writing won't be ME1 level. If people can accept that, then the story should be serviceable enough. I think where they're going to need to excel in to make this game work, is the world building, the characters, gameplay, and the MP.

I really hope Andromeda ends up being a great game, because even as someone who condemns Bioware for the shit they pulled with ME3, I'm getting really fucking tired of the "fuck Bioware" memes just as well. Have the trailers for Andromeda been mindblowing? No. But people have really been exaggerating how bad they've been.
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>>167378971
>>167379082
Pfft. It's the worst in the trilogy. It has none of the charm or character of ME1, the combat is vastly inferior to that of ME3, the story is beyond retarded, and only half of the squadmates aren't shit. ME2 is where it all went so wrong.
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>>167382619
>[citation needed]
It's simple math, there were billions of Quarians in Rannoch according to the codex, there are 17 million now under strict birth control policy.

That means there were at least 2 billions Quarians before the morning war, 17 millions are at most 0.85% of the Quarians before the robot war, so 99.15% died there.
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>>167382619
why has no one ever seen them? there's a literal huge panorama window, no actually a panorama 360° dome on top of it if I remember right, has no one ever flewn past that part of the citadel and thought "I wonder what's inside there"?
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>>167382619
Basic logic + Mass Effect: Revelation, page 116:

>The quarians had neither the numbers nor the ability to stand against their former
servants. Only a few million
survivors—less than one percent of their entire population—escaped the genocide.
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>>167382903
>>167383098
My bad. I thought there were still like 100,000,000 Quarians scumming up the galaxy.
But that really reinforces the point that organic/synthetic conflict is never inevitable. The Geth massacred the Quarians and stole their planet for no good reason but peace was still eventually brokered.
>>167382927
Stop expecting logic from one of the dumbest game endings of all time.
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>>167382927
That shit wasn't there before. There's an entire section you walk through that is "the Citadel is transforming and re-configuring itself"
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>>167363878
>I heard a lot of people say this but destroy doesn't solve the conflict.

We now have a device that can magically and instantly kill all AIs in the galaxy without harming organics or even dealing any collateral damage except for the easily-repairable mass relays. What conflict?
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>>167383379

You don't get to use that device twice. Next time the issue arises, it's all over.
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>>167383584
>You don't get to use that device twice

Why?
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>>167382802
To be fair, after replaying ME1 a week ago, I'd say writing in it is often quite cheesy overall. Though there are very well done moments, like conversation with Sovereign.
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>>167384103
>ME1 ending is just awkwardly zooming in on Shepard staring off into space
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>>167382238
I think expectation vs execution alone will kill it. When you have a long development time and literally put us in a different galaxy, people expect a lot. If I set aside my BioWare cynicism, I would expect a new lore experience even vaster than ME1 now that they have practice and streamlined resources. But already the whole thing is too Milky Way oriented so there's zero chance we're getting the feel we should when discovering a new galaxy.

They feel the need to make constant callbacks in these games, and I think that's what will kill it here. My prediction is that people will end up asking why they even bothered leaving the Milky Way.
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>>167380225
They all look pretty shit so far. At least the ones we know anything about. Holding out hope that Vetra, Drack, and Jaal aren't written by mouth-breathing idiots who think shit like this is great:

>"The Milky Way was so... been-there-done-that. Even if I hadn't done it, someone had."
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>>167384269
That wasn't the ending, that was just the last image. The ending was beating the bad guy and vowing to stop the Reapers.
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>>167384408
Yeah that's what I meant, the last image. It was just weird.

>>167384365
You know she wasn't being literal, right?
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>>167382802
Since I have a bad feeling that the maps will be similar to Inquisition's "open world", I just hope they learned from Inquisition and have a beefed up main story that wouldn't take literally just two hours to play through entirely if not for level/experience gating. To me, Inquisition's main failing was that they wasted so many resources on pointless maps nobody cared about instead of putting it into the story. And it showed, badly.
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>>167384329
>My prediction is that people will end up asking why they even bothered leaving the Milky Way.

I think they've created an out for that though. Based on what we've learned so far, it's very likely the Andromeda Initiative is something Cerberus has their fingers in.

This guy brings up great points, and he's not the first to do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRNwOieLfiA&t=211s

I'm not gonna be one of those fans that's gonna say "Fuck Cerberus! Enough with them." They were pretty cool in ME1 and ME2. But if we take everything we know about Cerberus from the first two games, it would actually almost be bad writing, if Cerberus wasn't involved in the Andromeda Initiative.
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>>167384468
>You know she wasn't being literal, right?

Of course, nothing she says is serious because she's THE QUIRKY ONE. Does that somehow make the line any better?
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>>167384643
I don't mean that they don't have a reason. My fear is that they'll get so caught up in reuniting fans with their beloved Milky Way races and conflicts and callbacks that the new elements won't shine the way they need to, or will look painfully underdeveloped for a game taking place in a whole other galaxy.
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>>167383664
The Catalyst, Crucible and part of the Citadel that houses them are all destroyed when you use the Destroy option.

And even if they weren't, you think all races would accept interstellar travel and the galactic community being forcibly shut down for decades any time a conflict took place?
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>>167384742
>The Catalyst, Crucible and part of the Citadel that houses them are all destroyed when you use the Destroy option.

I don't recall the Crucible being destroyed.

>you think all races would accept interstellar travel and the galactic community being forcibly shut down for decades any time a conflict took place?

If the alternative was genocide, yes. From what we can see repairing the relays doesn't take decades anyway. Months maybe.
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>>167384708
>nothing she says is serious because she's THE QUIRKY ONE
Don't you think you're jumping to conclusions? Why are people getting so angry over one line?
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>>167384365
There's something that enormously pisses me off about a character who's supposed to be very intelligent still acting and speaking like a reckless teenager. I get the feeling her jokes aren't going to reflect her intellect either. She'll essentially be a quirky free spirit who railroads us because she's the only one who's allowed to have certain knowledge. It already bugs me a little that they've positioned her as MORE ADVENTUROUS AND CURIOUS THAN YOUR CHARACTER OR ANYONE EVER.
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>>167384708
I don't see the problem with that line. Any exploring she could do in the Milky Way would either be filling in minor blanks or waiting around for who the fuck knows how long for new relays to be built.
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>>167384825
It's not just one line. She's the companion we've seen the most of.

>>167384936
There were a ton of dormant relays and unexplored systems.
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>>167385006
>There were a ton of dormant relays
And how the fuck is she going to activate them? Oh, she would just have to wait the fuck around for them to be activated?
>and unexplored systems.
Unexplored=/=new territory. A ton of the planets have never been physically explored but have been scanned thoroughly.
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>>167385006
But people seem particularly hung up over an Asari saying she wants to explore places outside the Milky Way.
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>>167384825
anon's not jumping to the conclusions, her VA literally said she's the irreverant and quirky member of the party. And also that you and everyone in the game is forced to love her by the end of it
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>>167384740
>that the new elements won't shine the way they need to, or will look painfully underdeveloped for a game taking place in a whole other galaxy.

Well the Milky Way races need to have a large presence in the story given the situation. But as I look at the videos and trailers, there does seem to be plenty of "alien" like things that we'll discover in Andromeda. Here's the many different subplots I've noticed so far:

1. The Remenant.
2. The Scourge (that black webbing we've been seeing, mostly in the last trailer).
3. Archon and the Kett being the front antagonists.
4. The possibility of Cerberus involvement.

We also know that exploration will be a huge part of the game, which will probably make up a good portion of discovering the lore of Andromeda. Not to mention I have to believe we'll get to explore new alien hubs. I don't think we should worry about the world building in the game. Yes there will be callbacks and fan service, but personally I don't feel like it's going to overwhelm the Andromeda plot. We know Bioware is still interested in making future Mass Effect games, so if ME is going to take place in Andromeda from this point forward, they have to establish the new galaxy. They'd be idiots not to.
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Should I bang Cora or Peebee? You decide
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>>167384825
The thing is it's not just one line. Peebee is the one we've gotten the biggest glimpse of in-game and through dev comments. Every single comment positions her as quirky, jokey, flirty, takes little seriously, not a team player but clearly we'll have to beg her to join us because no doubt she's mandatory, etc. All the little cutesy tweets about what kind of food she'd eat and how she's such a curious joy and other such things.

I think what may make it worse is that they clearly want us to like her so badly. That usually reflects in the writing. I sense a writer's pet.
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>>167385186
>her VA literally said she's the irreverant and quirky member of the party. And also that you and everyone in the game is forced to love her by the end of it
But she didn't LITERALLY say that, ya autist.
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>>167385325
PeeBee. Because fuck everything!
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>>167385006
>There were a ton of dormant relays and unexplored systems.

And it's literally forbidden to explore them by Council law
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>>167385327
That is essentially what she said. She's hit or miss in her jokes, which translates to me as she's annoying most of the time, but everyone ends up just loving her eye-rolling antics and accepting her into their little family in the end because she's pure joy.

The whole thing makes me wary because the characters BioWare and those related have gushed about like that have often been more irritating than not. Example: Merrill.
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>>167385326
>I think what may make it worse is that they clearly want us to like her so badly.
I honestly don't get that impression. It feels like they've barely focused on her at all in terms of marketing.
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>>167385326
>I sense a writer's pet

I think this is the main reason why everyone is so knee-jerk autist annoyed with Peebee. She's already the face of the game and everyone still has the incessant pushing of Liara on the brain. Combine that with not so great looks and a personality description reminiscent of Sera and it's a perfect recipe for hate.

>>167385630
We've seen her face more than anyone's and she was one of the first faces we saw. She appears in every trailer, is the first one to get a whole video with her VA, and is the one developers have tweeted most about.
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>>167385327
she LITERALLY did say the first part. and implied the second with that line about everyone rolling their eyes at the beginning but loving her by the end
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>>167385528
>That is essentially what she said
But not LITERALLY, ya fuck. No one is forcing you to like her.
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>>167385805
>She's already the face of the game
Feels like nobody really gives a shit about her. People got way more excited about Drack, Vetra and now Jaal.

> is the first one to get a whole video with her VA
If you want to count them Scott & Sara's VAs have had tons of interviews and videos.
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alright /meg/, i have one or possibly two more missions until the crew gets abducted
i have Overlord, Jacob loyalty, and Legion loyalty to pick from
which should i choose?
btw im only doing Liara of the Liara Liara and Arrival after the Suicide Mission
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>>167385823
Hmm?
>her VA literally said... that you and everyone in the game is forced to love her by the end of it
>you... forced to love her by the end of it
Get fucked.
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If there's cerberus in this game who is leading them? Cora?
Why freezing for 600 years too? Because Andromeda needs yoomaneetee?
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>>167385921
Nobody cares about her because a lot of fans are sick of Asari writer's pets and Asari in general. That doesn't mean they weren't trying to position her as the face of the game, it just means it didn't work to get anyone hyped about her.

The protagonist character doesn't count but it honestly feels like Peebee has gotten nearly as much collective trailer focus as either of them have.
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>>167386012
>implying that Ryder won't act like they're best friends with Peebee by the final mission, no matter what dialogue choices you pick
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>>167386129
>Why freezing for 600 years too? Because Andromeda needs yoomaneetee?
Why the fuck wouldn't you be frozen for the trip? There's literally no reason not to, dummy.
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>>167386192
Right, because we couldn't rebuff Sera or anything...
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>>167386307
Peebee is obviously going to be in a much more central and mandatory position than Sera. That much is abundantly clear from the marketing. So we likely won't get even close to the same ability to ignore her or tell her to fuck off as we did with Sera.
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>>167386129
I'm willing to bet her probably being related to TIM is just an easter egg. If Bioware is handling this like they do DA, they want new players to be able to pick up MEA without being confused. If there is going to be a human supremacy group they'll either be new or Cora herself won't have any relation to Cerberus.
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>>167386215
Why would cerberus go through the trouble of also going to andromeda?
Isn't the milky way being raped by reapers enough?
If cerberus in this game I'll be pissed.
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>>167386129
i guess Cora since its all but out-right stated that she's The Illusive Man(actual name Jack Harper)'s daughter

600 years b/c no mass relays means it will take a while to get to a new galaxy (600 years is still impressive for space ships, it takes at least that long to get to the nearest SOLAR SYSTEM rn, much less a whole other galaxy)
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Why the fuck is the Archon the same generic deep voiced bad guy? Even if they do give him more personality, it'll probably amount to Saren 2.0.

Will BioWare ever be creative again?
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>>167385989

You should have done everything but Tali and Legion's loyalty missions before you went to the Derelict Reaper.
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>>167386307
The Dragon Age writing staff hates elves, and the Mass Effect writing staff loves Asari
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>>167386374
She's less integral to the most recent marketing than Drack...
>>167386414
What the fuck does Cerberus have to do with being in cryostasis for a 600 year trip? And why wouldn't Cerberus want to bolster humanity in a new galaxy?
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>>167386557
not enough time to lock in Tali's romance before Suicide Mission
also i dont give a shit about the non-squaddie crew because im just gonna save edit it to be good afterwards
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>>167386487
He reminds me more of Harbinger in ME2. I'd much prefer another Saren to that
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>>167386597
They hate elves? Is that why we had 2 elf companions in DA2 and DAI?
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>>167386690
>not enough time to lock in Tali's romance before Suicide Mission

Can't you do the romance after the Suicide Mission?
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>>167386729
No people just think them trying to deconstruct Toklien elf tropes means they hate them. I'd take their approach of trying to elves than ME's approach to asari.
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>>167367106
holy shit
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>>167386692
they royally fucked up Harbinger

>Sovereign
>deep, menacing, if slightly sperglord villain who inspires genuine terror in you when you talk to him for the first time
>Harbinger
>fanboys over Shepard in a tsundere manner, with a really gay voice too
Harbinger a shit

>>167386765
but then its not as cool, since you dont get to deflower her
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>>167386690

er what do you mean? Every time I've played ME2 I've done pretty much everything except Legion's Loyalty mission before going to the derelict. Just this time I've also heard it's worth it to take Legion with you to Tali's loyalty mission so you can save that too.
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>>167386932
really? I kept hearing how it's possible to bang any of the LIs after the Suicide Mission.
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>>167387045
I thought the scene only triggered before the suicide mission because it was supposed to be a "let's fuck in case we die" sort of thing.
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>>167386961
i know, thats why i did that after the IFF mission. Legion makes all the quarians shit themselves in fear and anger except Xen who wants to "study" him

what im saying is, i dont think theres enough time to say "lets fug" before the Suicide Mission

>>167387045
its not as dramatic
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cmon fuckers, ME2 is eating RAM while i wait for an answer: Legion loyalty, Jacob loyalty, or Overlord?
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>>167387595
Legion loyalty, then Overlord, then go on the suicide mission and send Jacob through the vents
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>>167385325
Both, I want Peebee to sit on my face while Cora rides me.
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>>167387664
kek, no
i dont like people dying, i take it personally
>inb4 "lel its just a game!"
i take roleplaying seriously
also im a self-inserting fuckwit
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>>167385325
Vetra
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>>167387201

Oh, nm, I got confused, I'll blame the hydrocodone.

I was thinking you were saying you didn't have enough time to lock in Tali's romance if you didn't do the IFF mission early enough or something

I get it now though, it was my suggestion of leaving Tali's loyalty mission for after the IFF mission that you were talking about

Anyway.. you should have done everything except Legion's loyalty mission and POSSIBLY Tali's loyalty mission (if not romancing her) before the IFF.

Otherwise.. well.. I think you can do both Jacob and Legion's loyalty missions, skip Overlord, you can do that after suicide mission afterall.

Make a manual save before going on Jacob's loyalty mission. If your crew gets kidnapped after it, reload then decide whether you care about Token possibly dying or Legion possibly dying and choose one or the other. They're both good "Hold the Line" team members so they might both survive even with one not being loyal.
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>>167387924
i already did Tali's loyalty, i only have three missions to go: Jacob, Legion, and Overlord

im not gonna do Overlord after the Suicide Mission, it wouldnt make sense (why would i care about Cerberus shit after i got fired?)

i think im just gonna do Legion's
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well
shit
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I got fired from my job today.
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>>167388374
why?
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>>167379220
I genuinely enjoying ME3 the most of the three games. I'm not seeing what everyone hates about it yet.
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>>167388374
Nice.
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>>167388453
It's really mostly just the ending and handling of all your previous choices. they clearly run out of time and funding to finish the game.
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>>167388038

so screw overlord then. I don't even have that DLC as it is. Does it really make an impact? As far as I know Overlord and Firewalker have minimal story impact.

But do make a manual save, then try Jacob's loyalty mission, if the crew gets abducted, reload then do Legion's... maybe you'll get to do both, otherwise, you'll have to make a choice, manual save after doing each one to avoid having to repeat I guess.
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>>167388374
2 months too early, should have timed it for andromeda release
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>>167388614
im just gonna use a save editor afterward, your realize that right?
i was just wondering about mission order
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>I saw the twitter post about "straight man" and got almost a heart attack. Had to read this thread at...7am to get myself pacified. But the thing is...I'm really scared they made Jaal straight. I've swallowed so many disappointments on that front from Bioware, but at least they always give me something, unlike other companies (If anyone here plays SWTOR, can I just mention Quinn and Vector and be done with it, my Sith Warrior is dying from blue balls because I decided he is in unrequited love with Quinn).

>just wanted to see if there was any new info about Jaal and instead I got someone's struggles in sexuality and how they'll literally cry if he's "taken away from them"

Fucking no wonder they decided to nuke the old BSN.
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>>167388689
>why don't they cater more to my out-of-the-norm sexuality
some "people"...
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>>167388453

It's the ending. 99% of Mass Effect 3 is really a great game. But that last 1%, the ending, puts such a bad taste in your mouth that it fucks up people's feelings for the ENTIRE TRILOGY much less ME3 itself.

I mean after I finished ME3 the first time I had multiple mass effect 2 cleared saves that I was going to go through to see how it changed... instead I uninstalled ME3 and just didn't touch it till the extended ending pack came out, did another of my files, was still disappointed, dropped it again until citadel DLC was released and I heard that gave more closure.

That finally helped enough to make it tolerable.
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>>167388614
>Does it really make an impact?
No, but Overlord is Shepard solving yet another Cerberus experiment gone wrong, if that anon plans to blow up the base (therefore leaving Cerberus) it makes no sense for him to do it after the suicide mission.
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>>167388849
I don't care about people wanting Jaal to be bi, what I don't get is people being so stupid that they don't know "straight man" is an expression used to describe someone's personality. This person went on a huge rant about the Struggle, I only copied the start of it.
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>>167388687

You'll still have to watch Kelly get dissolved into grey goo you monster.
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>>167388876
desu the whole Cerberus shitfest drags ME3 down, the part about the Reapers and the closure of the Geth-Quarian conflict and the genophage ranges from good to great.
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>>167388951
can you link to his "struggles" please? I enjoy seeing queers suffer because they feel entitled
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>>167388940

He doesn't have to do it at all is what I'm saying.
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>>167387201
>its not as dramatic

I'm curious, does the dialogue change at all if you do it after? What prompts the final romance scene if the Suicide Mission doesn't?
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>>167388967
>Kelly
Good.
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>>167389052
Ah, okay, but it is a good dlc (even if it's entirely optional) and unless you're a sociopath gives a sweet scene in ME3.
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>>167389046
>http://bsn.boards.net/thread/3588/jaal-angaran-official-thread?page=63&scrollTo=260045
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>>167389145
thanks
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>>167388940
i do plan on blowing up the base, everyone is gonna get fuckin indoctrinated spending more than two minutes in that shithole

>>167389061
no idea, but i don t think you get a final romance scene post-suicide mission (excluding Liara's in LotSB)

besides, "lets fug before we die" is cool
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>>167389121

I guess, I mean, I never got the DLC because the impact it has is so minimal, only reason I have firewalker is because they give that out free.

Shadow borker is definitely worth it, arrival.. eh.. It has story impact but honestly I didn't find a timed solo DLC to be that fun to play.
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>>167389145
oh fuck me, is that the kind of people bioware is catering to?
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I AM A BIOTIC GOD!
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>>167389315
Depends on what you mean by catering. Given what they say in the post, no, Bioware hasn't exactly catered to them in the past.
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>>167388951
Kek who doesn't know what a straight man in media is? And it turns out the tweet was just talking about another character Jaal's voice actor played.
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>>167389309

Honestly, I don't even know if I'd really recommend getting/doing the Kasumi DLC either except that it has a nice casual outfit and nice SMG.

Only DLC that's pretty much a must is Shadow Borker.
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>>167389145
I'll agree with them on one thing, I also kind of miss playersexual. SJWs, other than this nut, ranted because "NOT MUH REPRESENTATION" but I liked that I could get my pick of whoever no matter who I played.
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>>167388245
How did Shepard fit 10-12 guys in a six-seated shuttle? More importantly, where s/he was going on it?
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>>167389426
I OWN THIS ROOM; I OWN YOU.
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>>167389426
I THINK THINGS
AND THEY HAPPEN
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>>167389579
I wouldn't give a shit if Bioware just decided to do that from now on. I wasn't around when DA2 first came out but I heard the backlash was pretty bad. Was it because they were all bi or was it because the romances were cookie cutter and played out the exact same way regardless of Hawke's gender?
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>>167389426
Will Volus be in Andromeda?
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>>167389145

I'm so glad the suicide rate for Trannies is so high, I wish it was 100%.
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>>167389679
You always need jews for a society to work, look what happened to Nazi Germany.
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>>167389679
No. Maybe added later.
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>>167389426

*mouth breathing*
I have extremely high performance requirements
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>>167389601
to help Legion molest his cousins
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>>167389145
>I saw the twitter post about "straight man" and got almost a heart attack. Had to read this thread at...7am to get myself pacified. But the thing is...I'm really scared they made Jaal straight.

are these people actually serious?
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>>167390006
I could understand if English isn't your first language but that's clearly not the case with this person.
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>>167389579

Yeah I generally don't mind if the characters are bi, as long as the romances are all player initiated.

>>167389668

A big part of the problem was that the characters in DA2 hit on you even when you never made any advances at them, and if you turned them down they got bitchy at you and you lost influence with them, in particular Anders.

ME has had some minor issue in that with romances in general where the only way to avoid an undesired romance without being a complete asshole to them was to just not talk to them at all.

See most characters, the ones you can't romance, you want to talk to them after every mission to learn more about their personal stories and such, but if you're a femshep, you CANNOT TALK TO JACOB WITHOUT HITTING ON HIM. It's fucking disgusting.

SWTOR did the right thing and made all romances player initiated and for the most part, clearly labeled (though sometimes the [Flirt] tags aren't really indicating WHO you're flirting with, a lot of people flirted with the same sex character in the first SWTOR expansion by accident and flipped their lids, because they thought they were flirting with the other character in the room that was opposite gender, and people dead end a romance in one of the later expansions because they don't take a flirt option thinking it will flirt with Theron)

As long as it's labeled and player initiated, I don't care if every NPC is bi.
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>>167389668
The backlash was on two fronts. On one, SJWs complained that making everybody bi "wasn't realistic" and didn't count as representation. Then a bunch of guys got fucking furious that Anders came onto them and pitched an absolute fit. From what I can tell, the latter was really what did it because I think there was more of them. The SJW faction wasn't quite as influential on BioWare back then.

I personally don't give a shit about representation or realistic. I just want to fugg who I want to fugg no matter what gender I play.
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>>167390319
ME1 will always be the worst about this. I had to literally follow a fucking guide to make sure I didn't accidentally romance Kaidan/Ashley or Liara and have to break up with them.
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>Shepard-Commander. It is time to choose. Do we rewrite the heretics, or destroy them?
well /meg/?
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>>167391152
rewrite
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>>167391152
Technically, destroying them is better for building the alliance between the geth and the quarians. In-game, it gives you a +1 or so score to the "alliance score"
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>>167391491
that doesnt matter in the end, since if you dont have Tali and/or Legion, peace is impossible
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>>167379796
here
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>>167391321
done
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>>167391548
It's extremely easy to ensure everyone survives the "suicide mission".
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>>167391491
>>167391548

Destroying gives more quarian war assets, rewriting gives more geth assets...

if you make peace then ultimately the total ends up being the same, they balance each other out.
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>>167392040
yes, it is
all im saying is, that "alliance point" doesnt matter if i have Legion + Tali
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>>167392139
well im going for peace, so...
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>>167391152
Blow them up, you'd have to be pretty silly to trust the geth at this stage.

Plus it helps get the peace ending in ME3.
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>>167371704
no one said it was the best game ever made you autistic contrarian
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>>167392229

Well, then it balances out but apparently it's easier to get peace if you destroy them.

I guess rewriting is only more beneficial if you're going to sacrifice the Quarians and side with the Geth.
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>9
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>>167389668
>>167390397
The people complaining about "playersexual" romances and Anders coming onto them were fucking insufferable.
>Anders was all like trying to fuck me, and I had to tell him I don't fuck dudes, dude! WTF?!
That happens in real life. Gay men are not actually equipped with Gaydarâ„¢ and they have to use social cues most of the time. If you're very nice to Anders then he thinks he sees an opening. If you're sarcastic or aggressive toward him then he does not and will not hit on you. This is pretty basic stuff, and the whiners just couldn't form a coherent argument.
I would love it if every romance was "playersexual" with the exception of characters whose sexuality is a central part of their character. It gives players more options and for some characters it would have made more sense. Miranda, for instance, should have 100% been playersexual since she uses her sexuality as a weapon.
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>>167394246
No because faggots, trannies and otherkin are a tiny minority and most people never have to deal with them. Why do freaks that are sub 1% of the population deserve pandering and equal representation?

Fuck off.
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>>167394534
What the fuck do you think you responded to?
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So does the Nomad have weapons or what? Do you think they'll add an Andromeda version of the Thresher Maw?
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>>167394736
>So does the Nomad have weapons or what?
No.
>Do you think they'll add an Andromeda version of the Thresher Maw?
Yes. We already saw it in the first cinematic trailer. It looks like a rancor.
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I want to lick Arias feet
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>>167395087
Aria looks like a man desu.
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>>167394779

Not sure how I feel about this. Wrecking Geth in the Mako was pretty fun although simplistic and repetitive
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>>167395369

>playing ME1 on insanity
>in mako
>taking heavy fire
>get out
>use mako as cover
>kill all the baddies
>apparently the mako took too much damage
>get back in mako
>critical mission failure
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>>167352815
It always looks like Tali gets hit by Shepard's gun on his back.
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>>167395158
It's more her domineering attitude and personality than her looks that does it for me
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>>167353023
>this

it genuinely is grunt though. everyone else is just memeing or maybe they're really that retarded.
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>>167394246

People want to be *friendly* with their party members/squad without a guy trying to grab them and kiss them.

Just because I have gay guys hit on me irl and I have to deal with telling them no, I'm not interested, yes I'm SURE I'm not interested, no I haven't tried and no I don't want to try out NO I'M NOT IN THE LEAST BIT CURIOUS FUCK OFF (seriously some gay dudes just think they can convince you to change your sexual preference with a beer, shouldn't they of all people understand you either like one sex or the other it's not a choice they consciously make?)

anyway just because we have to deal with this shit irl doesn't mean we want to deal with it in video games.

It's just better to make all romances player initiated and clearly marked so that simply trying to be friendly doesn't coral you into buttfucking. It's not even just for same gender arcs either. It's obnoxious when Ashley thinks you're into her when you're just trying to be a friendly CO to her and take the paragon options as a maleshep even.
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>>167396074
In Bioware games featuring this it's always been

>gay character: hey I'm attracted to you, wanna bang?
>you: no thanks
>gay character: oh

And then that's the end of it.

I've never seen a single instance of them asking you over and over. In fact, most of them won't even make a pass at you in the first place unless you show some sort of interest in them first, with the -possible- exception of Anders but I can't remember that shitty game very well.

I guess Liara sort of does in ME1, but she doesn't really flirt so much as straight-up ask if there are feelings between the two of you, to which you can of course just reply 'no' and then that's the end of it.
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>>167396348

Anders got all butthurt about it and lost a shitload of influence when you turn him down.
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>>167396389
>lost a shitload of influence

no he didn't, you just earned some rivalry points with him which isn't a bad thing. you don't "lose" influence with companions in that game, you go down the friendship or rivalry path which both have benefits
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>>167395954
you can get that comment from Mordin before you bring Grunt on-board.
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>>167396074
I honestly can't tell if this is a troll post or genuine autism. /meg/ makes these things too difficult.
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>>167396898

It's neither. Tell me what exactly is wrong with making the romances be player initiated.

What are you a complete asshole to all your party members trying to get them to hate you except for the character you want to romance?
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>>167391152
destroy
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>>167397087
>It's neither.
Boy
>People want to be *friendly* with their party members/squad without a guy trying to grab them and kiss them.
>Just because I have gay guys hit on me irl and I have to deal with telling them no, I'm not interested, yes I'm SURE I'm not interested, no I haven't tried and no I don't want to try out NO I'M NOT IN THE LEAST BIT CURIOUS FUCK OFF (seriously some gay dudes just think they can convince you to change your sexual preference with a beer, shouldn't they of all people understand you either like one sex or the other it's not a choice they consciously make?)
>anyway
It's 100% autism.
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>>167397227

No, it's pain meds, my train of thought gets broken when I'm nodding off
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>>167397087
Because sometimes other characters will interact with your own without being prompted.

>this happens
>it makes you a little uncomfortable
>you turn them down and the interaction is immediately over and never happens again and you get back to business as usual

Yes, what an asshole you are for doing that.
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Gameplay trailer fucking when?
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>>167397524
Never
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>>167397547
Unacceptable.
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How come they made Kaidan also a gay option in Mass Effect 3 and not Tali?

Also, is Kaidan hated around here? I like him.
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>>167397392

I would legitimately just prefer not to be hit on by gay dudes, in game, or in life. Is that too much to ask?
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>>167397693
He's not hated, hes just boring. What's the point of fucking a human in a space game when there's exotic aliens to plow.
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>>167397087
Not the other anon. Making the romances player initiated is fine by me in principle, but I don't really agree with making all the characters bi just to expand the number of romance options.
Also, they should have the ability to accept or turn down the player depending on factors other than direct dialogue and flirting (such as key game decisions or paragon/renegade alignment, although I'm not sure if this system will still be in MEA). Point being that characters should feel real and alive, have their own independence rather than being there just to fulfill romances and pander to specific audiences.
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>>167397693
I like him too.
Still upset they made him gay to please the 20 people asking for it when there is a token gay already
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>>167397693
are people still mad that Tali is straight?
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>>167397524
Two months ago senpai. it's pretty short tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOIzH6UcoW4
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>>167396389
You could regain what you lost in two seconds if you took him to the right quests. People exaggerate about the Anders thing. It was annoying but hardly worth the fury.

But it's not like the playersexual thing caused this. All that causes it is the writers being morons and refusing to just lock flirts behind very obvious cues. Now that's in place in Mass Effect and Dragon Age, so it's not an issue in the future.

>>167397836
Eh, I'd rather just fuck who I want to fuck. It's not as if romance is the biggest part of the characters. I never thought the DA2 characters lost anything in comparison to the companions in other games by being bisexual. All it did was give me more choice. The "they gotta feel REAL" argument was always weak.
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>>167397693
Tali's VA refused to play a dyke apparently, hilarious desu.

Bet that triggered the cucks at Bioware.
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>>167397354
Mmhmm. Likely story.
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>>167398068
I should add that this is just among those characters interested in romance. There were plenty of characters that didn't want your dick at all and I thought that worked. There's your realism.
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>>167397836

Oh I'm not saying that they all should be bi, I'm just saying I have no problem with them all being bi, as long as it's all player initiated. Ultimately, it's supposed to be my character's story, but my fantasy. But it's not really much of a fantasy for me to have homos hitting on me. I deal with that enough having living in Seattle.
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>>167398069
Source as to where she said that?
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>>167397756
Yes. Because the world is not your oyster, fuckwit. Gay guys exist, they want dick and/or butthole, and they have to play the odds. So stop being such a closeted homo.
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>>167398195

We're talking about in a video game here, it doesn't have to be realistic in fact it shouldn't be.
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>>167398236
>We're talking about in a video game here
>>167397756
>I would legitimately just prefer not to be hit on by gay dudes, in game, or in life. Is that too much to ask?
>or in life
pls kys
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>>167397761
Just saying in comparison to Ashley. He at least looks good and has a nice voice.
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>>167398127
Yeah, I skipped DA2, thanks for clarifying. Poor wording on my part, I should have just said that not all people IRL are bi(curious), so it wouldn't make much sense in game.
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>>167398236
I'm sure handsome people flirting with you isn't realistic, anon.
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>>167398305
>He at least looks good and has a nice voice
Until you see what his voice actor looks like, and then you'll always see Kaidan as a goblin.
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>>167398378
Isn't Ashley voiced by a fat black lady?

>>167398069
Isn't there recorded romance dialogue for femshep at least?
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>>167382238
What if ME A wins most GOTY awards this year ?
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>>167398340
I think there's some leeway in a game setting, because unless you are going around flirting with every possible candidate, you wouldn't even experience this phenomenon of lots of bi characters in the first place. It would just be a cast of characters whose sexuality is irrelevant to you, and then the one other character that you are trying to bang.

I don't know about you guys but typically in these games, if there's a character that interests me as a romantic partner then I just go for them and that's it. I don't play the game in such a way that I'm shown a cast full of bisexual characters.
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>>167398378
At least his face model is a cute. And gay too, I think. Maybe that was the inspiration to changing Kaidan's sexuality in 3.
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>>167398069
apparently mark vanderloo also had a stipulation in his contract that they couldn't use his likeness for anything gay, so after the whole STEEEEEEVE romance in me3 bioware lost the rights to use his face
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>>167398492
Video game awards are like those obscure movie awards that are televised on non-basic cable channels where none of the actual A-listers show up to collect the awards.
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>>167398378
They look pretty alike.
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>>167398493
I don't know why people didn't just headcanon the characters what they wanted. If you want to see them as bi, see them as bi. If you want to headcanon them as straight when they're with your opposite gender PC or gay when they're with your same gender PC, do it. Imagination and all that.

It's not as if the average player would ever even know they were all bisexual. They probably played through once, chose who they wanted and didn't think about the rest.

The idea now that the character's sexuality has to "make sense" and that SJWs support that seems retarded to me. Isn't the whole point that sexuality isn't supposed to have a ton of bearing on your character if they're a good character? Just make them whatever then.
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>>167398434
Yup

Ashley would be more interesting as a sassy negress.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1P-BF8KRU1E
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>>167398069
>>167398651

Weren't both of these pure clickbait rumors? I remember them going around before but it sounded like bullshit.
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>>167398651
Wrong. He personally objected to his likeness being used for homosex but he had no legal grounds to challenge BioWare. There was never any homosex in ME1 so he never had any reason to add such stipulation his contract. He's also an idiot who would have such foresight to do so.
>>167398665
Nigga u faceblind.
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>>167398751
Oh you meant the VA! Yeah he's ugly as sin goddamn.

But that voice...
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>>167398665
You're probably thinking of Kaidan's face model, anon. The VA wasn't the face model.
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>>167398790
>Oh you meant the VA!
Who the fuck else would I have been referring to when I said
>Until you see what his voice actor looks like
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>>167398739
I don't know about the Sheploo one but I thought the Tali VA one was proven wrong. Like she'd played a gay character in something else or something like that.
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>>167398651
>apparently [voice actor or face model] did X

I don't know why so many of these rumors came from Mass Effect, but none of them are true. Never any source shown, ever, in the 10 years since the first game came out. Same goes for the rumor of Tali's VA not wanting to do lesbian lines.

They just get repeated so often with lines like this anon starting with "apparently" or "I read somewhere" and people assume it's true.

It's even weirder since we love shitting on Bioware here, but instead of assuming content was cut because of poor Bioware decision-making we assume some actor they hired had the influence to remove content from the game? What?
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>>167398816
I read it diagonally, I'm multitasking and suck at it.
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>>167398886
>I read it diagonally
That's not even a thing.
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>>167398751
He could be halfway handsome if he got a decent haircut and stopped giving cameras a serial killer smile.
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>>167398957
Those fucking fingers.
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>>167398932
He needs to just shave his head (no way that hairline will allow for a decent haircut), grow a goatee, and stop smiling with teeth. He'd be fine, then. He's not really ugly, it's just that his hair and the weird faces he makes work strongly against him.
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>>167399009
Why can't Bioware into hands? Still not as bad as those DA2 hands though.
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>>167399131
Why can't BioWare into hands, hair, animations, naked bodies, etc.

I want to laugh at the people getting excited over the way hair looks in Andromeda so far. This has happened before and then people quickly come to realize that it's shit.
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>>167389802
Zero unemployment, booming industry and no degeneracy?
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>>167399009
apart from modeling, lighting, face scanning, animations, forced social justice, game design and scripting, poor quality textures are biowares' #1 weakness
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>>167399190
Getting beaten in a war and forced into eternal cuckoldry, approaching Sweden levels.
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Redyr
Mail
Aroc
Eebeep
Kcard
Artev
Laaj
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>>167399310
That's just what happens when you mess with the slavs. The Soviet Union removed all their volus and for real and nothing like that happened to them.
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>>167399310
They just didn't remove enough.
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>>167399523
Really, all they did was offer a free trip to Israel for the willing and free trip to gulags for the unwilling.
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>>167398910
He means skimming. Look it up.
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>>167379220
ME2 is irrelevant.
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>>167386932
>That image
Cancer combined with another cancer to create perfect cancer.
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>>167382323
wtf, underages plsgo staygo.
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Why am I too retarded to mod ME2 properly? All I want is to install VLM and have the game actually detect it.

I've checked the pastebin and looked at a few guides online, which to my knowledge I'm following properly, but no dice.
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>>167400408
only reddit-tier plebs think me2 wasn't crap.
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new thread?
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>>167400513
The characters and their loyalty missions make up for the flawed main plot and its lack of significance when compared to the overarching Reaper invasion theme of the series, which could have been somewhat reolved by giving more importance to the Collector stuff in ME3 or making an extended ending in ME2 that better contextualizes what's been happening. Or, you know, not completely fucking mangling Jack Harper in ME3.
Still, I think the best interactions with your companions happen in ME2, which is why I consider it the best in the series.
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>>167400630
nah, let's just let it die
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>>167388453
I'm in the same boat. The destination might have been underwhelming but the journey was very enjoyable.
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>>167401034
>>167388453
Me too anons.
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>>167400930
>The characters and their loyalty missions make up for the flawed main plot and its lack of significance

2/3 of the characters in ME2 are complete reddit crap. They have nothing to do with the main plot or any significant subplot, are cliches who wear their characterizations on their sleeves, are unlikable, and are all thoroughly exaggerated from their personalities to their designs. Not one of those 2/3 actually feels like a real person.

>I think the best interactions with your companions happen in ME2,

You barely fucking talk to them in ME2 except for Mordin and Tali. Generally every squadmate's dialogue 90% consists of them ranting to you about their edgelord backstories. Which you then fix with bullets. Then you have maybe two or three exchanges after that, then they're out of dialogue. After that they stare at walls all day never moving from their position on the ship. They hardly say anything on generic missions as well, and most of what they do say is stock. On top of that, they go completely mute in side missions and DLC.

Contrast that with ME3, where the characters aren't insufferable dicks and everyone talks often, sometimes to each other around the ship. They have loads of dialogue for every occurrence and also fully recorded and fitting lines for side missions. Even ME1 far outstrips ME2 in this regard. ME1 had rich, multi-branched conversations (particularly for Ash and Kaidan- aliens got relatively less due to having to deliver exposition, but still more than most ME2 characters) where you could actually influence and really speak with the characters in question.
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Is DA:I worth playing? I gave it a pass first time around because all the characters looked like potatoes, and DA2 was such an amazing shitshow. Just wondering if my expectations were too negative, as I'm hankering for some more roleplayan games.
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>>167401409
I clocked 120 hours so... It's playable and there are some good moments
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>>167401409
>Is DA:I worth playing?
i haven't played it, but no
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>>167401409
It's a singleplayer MMO, not as good one at that as Amalur was. Do you enjoy endless filler? Then it's worth getting.
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>>167401409
It's worth playing, as long as you absolutely do not take a completionist approach to it.

Try to do that and you'll hate it, and yourself. It's crammed with MMO type filler.
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Anywhere I can download ME3 mods as a pack?

Freaking nexus asks for money to register, fuck that
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>>167359282
No one should support bioware
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>>167376723
And who's fault was it that some space Jew retard cunts almost got killed?
Their own, leave well enough alone and don't fucking try and genocide the geth you quarian fucks, literally the worst most spasticated race and deserve everything they god damn get
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