/xcg/ - XCOM General

flamethrowers are useful

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That's a big map

>reinforcement drops in the middle of the squad and scampers
>need to take out the snek pod leader or someone dies
>only one with enough damage output for it is the Ranger
>move up point blank
>use Double Barrels because I can't afford anything to happen
>100% shot
>Grazed: 7, left alive with 1 hp left

Graze band is at 0. The shot was a 100%. Yet the game didn't give a fuck. Whatever the fuck you broke, thanks a bunch Lump

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>>167292225
thats the construction site i got the other thread

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>>167292231
Snek has a natural dodge chance I thought?

>>167292369
Yes, but 100% shots can't be dodged

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>>167292368
I missed the construction map

>>167292545
I know that for certain in vanilla, maybe something Pavonis did messed that up?

Is there a music tool for xcom 2 like xcom EU had?

>>167288220
>REINFORCEMENTS
This is it. XCOM is finished.

Would probably be slightly more manageable if the game were less opaque. Apparently you can only melee after a dash if you do it in one command, and Implacable seems to be almost entirely non-functional.

>>167292231
sounds magnificent, brah

>>167292225
>>167292368

This is a really fun map, same deal with the mansion another mod adds

>>167292231
Sneks have high dodge. Dodge also causes grazes. Graze band applies in addition to Dodge.

Example: Graze band is at 10. ADVENT Trooper has 0 Dodge and you have a 70% on him. chances are 60% normal damage, 20% Graze, 20% miss.

Your situation: Snek has whatever Dodge. You have 100% on him. You have (x=Dodge) chance to Graze, (100 - x) to deal normal damage.

In Vanilla (if you somehow had Double-Barrels in Vanilla), that would have been a Dodge:Memed complete miss.

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>tfw i finally found out how to stop having recluits with negative defense and dodge
>tfw Not Created Equally is finally fun to use

Fuck getting shot though full cover while hunking down and fuck whoever thought that having negative defense was a good idea.

>>167294434
pls share

Because seriously, fuck vipers 360 noscoping full cover soldiers from across the map.

>>167295123
Go to
XComLW_Toolbox.ini in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\268500\844674609\Config

Then use the search function of notepad and look for this
>StatDown=eStat_Defense
>StatDown=eStat_Dodge

Next to each line of code, there is one that says:
>StatDown_Amount=

Change each value to 1 for all the StatDown=eStat_Defense and StatDown=eStat_Dodge and then you are done, enjoy having soldiers with positive defense.

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>extremely light mission
>send three dudes
>immediately two pods of 2 and 3 vipers, one soldier each.

Yeah, no. Fuck that. Fuck everything about that. Fuck everything that looks like that. Fuck everything remotely similar to that.

>>167295521
>Operation Wildcard Starter
>not expecting the ultimate bullshit of wildcard vipers

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>>167293028
>Reinforcements were just a trooper and a commander

>More reinforcements being called on the next turn

Yeah I know i'm a shitter, I just started playing this game.

But it is so frustrating difficult early game in EW getting satellites up. by the time I've gotten enough engineers to build a sat uplink, and money to buy more satellites there's already like 3 countries full panic.

Like I could take the abduction for 3 engineers from a country with 0 panic, or get 200 bucks from a country with yellow panic.


What am I doing wrong?

What was the first time you've felt the magnificent long dong when playing long war 2?

>>167296117
Fuck me if it sounds like I'm shilling, but I have yet to encounter the unwinnable situation that I can't (at least retroactively) attribute to user error.

This shit is hard, but I'm gitting guder with every failure.

Guerilla War+All Pods Activate=Fuck Stealth?

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>>167295492
Thanks!
>>167295628
That gif.
>when your team is spotted by two mutons, three vipers, and two mecs first turn in a VIP escort
>evac is on the other side of the planet
>>167296117
Popping two pods of vipers and two pods of soldiers on turn three of a hacking mission with a three turn evac. Sent out eight men and three came back. Both the spawn and objective were against the south wall and I had no where to run.

>>167296395
>the guy drinking through his gasmask
>cigarettes in the ashtray, suggesting he's been smoking through it too
>the bartender just glaring angrily at Bradford
>"Fucker knows those are my favorites and that was the last one. Fucking 'you know I started XCOM so I deserve it' bullshit."

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>Late night Viper shows.

Some mod is fucking my missions over making enemies and objectives not spawn

However, I'm not sure which mod it is. Should I just disable everything but long war 2?

>>167297969
Everything off and trail and error your gamechanging shit back in,.
long war designed with only itself in mind and is not compatible with anything unless it is cosmetic or the mod author made it long war compatible

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This is a region Liberation mission, right? I know it says it there but I don't trust Long War to actually be straight forward anymore, plus if I want to get this done I have to call off at least one raid too. What happens if I skip it for now?

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>mfw I pulled off a two-man train robbery purely because of a clutch 23% mec hack that bought Firebrand enough time to get us the fuck outta there

Holy fuck that was intense.

>>167298836
>I know it says it there
LW2 is honest about things when it tells you them. Its issue is that it doesn't tell you things too frequently. That's a Liberation mission, go win it. If you skip it, you'll get another Liberation mission later, but it might take awhile. I wouldn't skip it.

Can I even run this fucking game
http://imgur.com/RTo1b45

>>167298836
Yes, this is the third part of the Liberation chain. After this the next mission you get for it will be the final stretch in Liberation, BE PREPARED.

Any good LW-compatible weapon mods/reskins yet?

>>167299092
XCOM EU/EW/LW you should be able to, but certainly not XCOM 2

jesus christ i just took out two sectopods and two heavy mecs in one turn on legendary vanilla

>>167299519
Just Reach right now. Waiting on modern weapons so I can operate completely.

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>>167299697
Why do I still get spotted when I move here?

Anyone else have their pistol models randomly disappear?

>>167300643
LOS is fucked up at the moment both for stealth and shooting. Squares that say fine are sometimes not. It's been so long since I played vanilla that I don't know if it's LW2 or just XCOM2.

What happens a Haven gets to 0 personnel from a truly fucked Retaliation? Does it just accumulate a few more people eventually or is it permanently fucked?

>>167301102
Soldier haven leaders recruit.

>>167300643
how are you being revealed?
someone spots you or does the game treats you as if you broke a window?

>>167295914
Nothing, optimal play is to take engineer abductions and sat according to panic levels. You can't realistically save all countries on impossible because too many panic, but for other difficulties you should be able to sat up everything red at the end of the month. But you really can't prevent the rise in panic, parallel abductions make it impossible - you just rush sats to save countries from falling.

The issue with EU/EW is that the first two months are the hardest, after that you snowball. LW fixes that.

>>167300756
Had that happen to me on my last terribly fucked-up Scientist rescue. Managed to finagle it into everybody except a Rookie getting captured rathen than everybody getting fukken ded, but I did notice that the pistol I put on my Sharpshooter just wasn't there. He still shot and everything, but he shot a nonexistent gun.

Probably some magnificence concerning pistols being utility items rather than secondary weapons, no doubt.

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>>167292053
Just finished my first play through of the campaign after getting the game about a week ago. This game is sick. What mods do you guys recommend? All I've been using so far is sassy vipers and a few voice packs. Also is the DLC worth it? Just what is Long War?

>>167302527
I should have been more specific, the game is XCOM 2

MADSEN LMG PORT WHEN

Despite being a BF1 port the Brazilian police still use the Madsen to this day

>>167302527
Long war was the first mod for XCOM EU/EW. A game that wasn't meant to be modded. It was basically a fan expansion pack with a focus on a longer campaign, harder game, a large rotating roster of soldiers to call upon, and magnificent design.

The mod kept XCOM EU/EW alive longer than the expiration date, and kept people interested until XCOM 2 leading Firaxis games to commission the developers from the mod to mod XCOM 2 in the same way they modded XCOM EU/EW to drum up sales indirectly.

Uninstall all content based mods (cosmetic/UI mods are usually fine), and install the Long War 2 mod. I'd say it's in a rough state right now though compared to the first long war.

>>167294434
>not having negative defense tank assaults
you what mate
it's like you want your squishy damage dealers to get blat-blat'd

>>167302527
Long war is a longer, more hardcore version of xcom. The devs say it should take you about 100-150 missions to complete it. It also expands the classes and perk trees.

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>>167302527
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=848571873&searchtext=
Send em' down to hell screaming

>>167302527
>What mods do you guys recommend?
Overwatch All, Evac All, Better Tactical Zoom Out, Gotcha, Stop Wasting My Time, Instant Avenger Menus, Perfect Information, Show Health Values, Clean Cinematic, Military Camouflage Patterns, Capnbubs Accessories, Custom Facepaints, Free the Hood, Ink and Paint, More Random Backstories, XCOM Patch Tattoos, Equestria Nationality, Firebat Voice Pack, Bob Ross Voice Pack, More Armor Colors, More Hair Colors, Cost-based Ability Colors, Blackmarket Usage, and World Expansion Project: ADVENT.

>Also is the DLC worth it?
Meh. I have yet to get far enough for SPARKS, and Alien Hunters is not my cup of tea, honestly.

>Just what is Long War?
Hell.

>>167302527
>Sassy Vipers
Anyone know if it works with Long War 2?

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>>167296395
wew that guys face!

>>167299551
Not really hard, in vanilla by the time you first encounter a sectopod your squad should be able to alpha strike everything

>decide to pass on the rescue a defector mission to try and get a scientist/engineer reward instead of a soldier
>by the time one finally pops advent strength has gone up from 3 to 7
greed may have been a mistake

>>167296395
why do your screens only have dudes anon. chicks can operate too

>>167302862
they were making new madsens into the 1950s the Brazilians must have like them i guess

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>>167303636
Because I like traditional dude operator teams.
And this armor doesn't work for females. I require uniforms.

>>167303946
they look like they're about to drop the hottest album of 2035

>>167303209
Thanks bruh,

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>>167302908
I'm drooling at the mouth already. I'll play with mods a bit and wait for DLC to go on sale. Steam keeps telling me I should have the dlc before trying Long War.

>>167304246
you don't need the DLC.

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I hate sharing my sniper towers

>>167304279
I've been lied to by Steam yet again...

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>>167304409
From the LW2 workshop page

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>>167304246
It's a lot of fun but has some issues.

>mfw the balance and bugs are finally ironed out

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>>167296395
Emeeeeeeeeeergency induction port

>Last mission
>final avatar
>run n gun crit ranger adjacent to avatar
>rapid fire at 90%
>lmao prepare to hold my dick bitch

>Missed!
>Missed!

haha

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>>167305346

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>>167305346
>>167296615
>>167296395
We can actually drink through gas masks. The inner drinking nozzle stabs you in the face all the time always.

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Rip

>>167296395
your soldiers are all fucking white males

where is the diversity?

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>>167305601

>>167305674
the korean dude

>>167305674
There is clearly a black dude in that pic

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>>167305674
Under rated post.

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>>167305674
I base soldier race off the MILLIONS OF VOICE PACKS I have. A lot of white dudes, a good number of black dudes, a decent amount of asians, surprisingly not many hispanic voice packs.

There are also two black dudes and a korean in that picture.

>>167305773
Gas masks look cool but they are nothing but bad memories for me so I need to ruin the fun for everyone else.

>>167303946
How do you get the flag to show up in the arm like that?

>>167303209
>equestria nationality

hmmm

>>167306116
That's the RB6 siege armor

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>>167306116
Only the R6S armor does that, like how the BF4 helmets have it on the back of some(all?) of the helmets.

>>167305773
FUCK YOU. I have heard that "lol you must be fun at parties" at least a hundred times. GET FUCKING ORIGINAL. Jesus fucking christ. Stop saying the same fucking thing over and over and over again. Just because you don't agree with me DOES NOT HAVE SHIT TO DO WITH PARTIES. What the fuck. Do you fucking fart at parties or something? If so I don't want to go to your shitty-ass parties in the first place. I'll stick to my wine and cheese dinners, you know, REAL FUCKING PARTIES. I downvoted you because not one thing you said was original. You're just a robot programmed to say these phrases over and over again to feel connected to 1s and 0s on the internet. You've never been to a party. That's why you say those things. WELL I'M FUCKING tired. of it. I'm tired. Say that to me one more fucking time and I will find you. I'm taking a stand. I am so sick of the stupid "parties" comeback. It's not fun. It's not clever. It's really fucking hurtful. Thanks a lot, dick. So what if you don't like what I said. Is that any reason to dismiss my entire comment and quote a little comeback. What's next, you're going to explain to me with crayons or call out my bullshit by how I overcomplicating things? If I see one more fucking party comment, I'm going to lose it. I'm going off the fucking chain and fucking report all you motherfuckers who think it's funny to comment about being fun at parties. Try me. I will do it. I will go STRAIGHT TO THE FUCKING TOP and then I'll be the one laughing while you beg for my mercy. Then you know what I'll say while you come to me crying and begging to die so you can stop the agony? I'll say "You must be fun at parties." So yeah, If you must know, I am pretty fun at parties. Not that you'll ever find out, dick.

>>167304521
You wouldn't happen to have the full picture that Anon posted a while ago do you?

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>>167306215
Are there different armors for the different CTUs? Not like I care, I'd just use the SAS armor anyway.

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>>167306339
Just SAS at the moment. There is another mod with a lot of helmets and IQ's full set, but they're weirdly low quality.

>>167306261
I do, I drew it :^)

it's on rule34.pahael under the X-COM and Annette_Durand tag

>>167306425
What about the other one you haven't posted yet?

>>167306460
The codex one? When long war dropped my classes picked up at the same time, so they're both competing for time.

If I find the time and motivation I'll finish it.

>>167306558
No I mean this one.

>>167306339
fuze http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=847698425&searchtext=

>one more mission before bed
>game crashes

okay

i'm tempted to finish my LW1 campaign (just got gauss IIRC) before i continue with this LW2 campaign though, just so i can get my squad from LW1 into the character pool

>>167306659
God damn it I didn't think anyone in the Trump general would recognize that.

I finished that a while ago, I'll put it on pahael after I get home tomorrow.

>>167306790
kool

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This map is quite something, but i think i would've been forced to abort the mission right at the start if i wasn't using true concealment. It took me a million turns just to realize there was no way up other than going inside, and i wouldn't have been able to go inside from the side i started the mission because there was a muton and an advent gunner on the second floor with tons of heavy cover they could use.

>>167306256
lol you must be fun at parties

Do you get instant autopsies in LW2 after collecting shitton of corpses like in vanilla?

>>167306425
Fukin savage, hombre.
I'd complain that her arms look quite a bit shorter than her legs, but I'm honestly just amazed that anybody put in that much work to make porn of Annette Durand.

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101th for Pistols are Useful

Using the modbuddy, how do I open and edit workshop mods? Trying to edit/fix this mod but IDK how to open it. There isn't a project file and opening the one file to change it does not really help me cause I don't know how to compile it.

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>>167306425
>rule34.pahael
>search X-Com
>that first gif

>>167308823

Make a new mod, copy paste mod's files, make changes, build mod.

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Quick, post your favorite line, whether it be NPC, default voice, or voice pack.

My heart goes out to:
>"I'm gonna teach you ALL about blunt force trauma!"
Halo 3: Johnson Voice Pack

>>167309021
That is actually very helpful, thanks!

>>167306006

Do you have a list of all the voicepacks you use? I want some more general packs to vary up my soldiers

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>>167309079
Eat some lead baby!

>>167309170
that dude is aesthetic!

>>167309079
I'M LOSING CONTROL OF THE SITUATION

>>167305674
I don't know about you, but I don't take liabilities on a mission. When I send them out ther3, I want them to complete their job, not run around raping and looting.

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>>167309079
"HAH! Nice catch with your face."

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>>167309079
"THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.
I HAVE A GUN, SO I'M IN CHARGE."
Or
"This sounds like a job for ambassador pineapple!"
Freeman's Mind is very quotable and the voice pack is full of all of them.

panic is the most retarded status effect ever how do I get rid of it

>>167309825
Revival Protocol

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>>167309825
Shhhh
Shh
This is the only skill you need

>>167310027
I'm jsut mad that my trained soldiers start crying whenever something bad happens and I have to waste an action to fix it

>>167309825
Revival protocol. Legitimately excellent perk, only costs one action.

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well this went south and fast

>>167308847
gfycat com EcstaticCaringFruitbat

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>>167309729
>Suppressive fire in, suppressive fire out, do the hokey pokey and thats what its all about

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Did you guys get a lot of new players off the sale?

>>167310324
got a few at least

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>started inside a fire

thanks lump

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Stealth through rockets

>>167310604
That doesn't make any goddamn sense. Explain yourself.

>>167310324
>friend who has been messing about with pirated version dropped 12 bux since he got tired of messing around with pirated versions
>technically managed to sell a copy of xcom 2/humble bundle monthly by mentioning it

i'm not shill enough though, and he has played xcom 1 so not new.

>>167310764
I had sent a my best shooters and equipment out on a troop ambush to maximize profits, when this mission popped up. I was going to ignore it until I noticed that the reward was hindering ADVENT from launching a retaliation in the region.
So I basically had a hodge podge group with no predator armor or laser weapons. I stealthed them behind the objective to a patrol deadzone, called in evac, rained rockets upon the objective, and then bailed before anyone got hurt. The relay tower had 30 hp, so not really a stealth optimal objective, which means you can't do it easily with the usual 2 man team.

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>>167310473
every fucking reinforcement is spawning in this exact spot right next to the otherwise nicely defensible LZ

THANKS. LUMP.

Whats with the super low hit chances in lw2? Fuck 30% was the lowest back in original lw.

Also should I jsut pull out if its not 100% infiltration as a 4 man squad?

>>167311137
In the beginning you want everyone working on intel and to only go on 100% infils or possibly better. If a mission is very important, or you really want the reward, consider intel boosting.

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>hit 100%
>miss

LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP

>>167311137
>Whats with the super low hit chances in lw2?
Cover works better. That applies to your guys, too.

>Also should I jsut pull out if its not 100% infiltration as a 4 man squad?
Yes. If you're trying to 2-man stelf misison, you had goddamn better have that 200% 2-turn evac Fuck you Lump for nerfing that.

>>167311338
I think what happened was you rolled a graze on the shot roll, then the dodge downgraded it to a miss. Maybe.

>>167311473
>>167311338
That's what I was thinkin

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>Andromedons can still acid glob while disoriented

I guess thats my fault for trying to hide them there but still

>>167311338
>shooting a flanked Viper that HAS to move through fire on its next turn
Literally why? It was a non-threat.

>>167311679
That clearly says Sectoid and there's a few non-fire spots around it

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I should probably pull them the fuck out of there right?

>>167311598
B'scuse me? 22 health and four armor?

I'm beginning to understand why people keep whining about "magnificence". How in the shit are you supposed to destroy that and leave anything else for anything else?

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Why am I getting this glitch where it just shows pic related at the end of most missions?

Only mods are LW2, Capnbubs, and Uniforms Manager.

>>167311764
>Moderate-Heavy
>105% infiltrate
ABORT ABORT

>>167311764
Depends on who "Them" are. Most likely, however? Yes.

>>167311780
Its because of permanent dark events, every enemy right now seems to have everywhere from 2-4 more HP than normal from +HP DAs, and normally I'd have more lasers but this came up while all my equipment was in use.

But yeah LW2 is MAGNIFICENT as fuck

>>167311112
I HAD THE SAME FUCKING THING
I MEAN IT'S JUST OVERWATCH CAMPING UNTIL IT GETS OUT OF CONTROL
BUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET OUT
WHY THE FUCK

>>167311837
6 people who don't even have Lasers equipped. I got Lasers while they were infiltrating and mass produced with my stored resources but they're not outfitted with them yet.

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>>167311836
>>167311837
This popped up instantly afterward
I feel like with an Intel boost a small team could take out the target and haul ass to the evac. Thoughts?

>>167311879
I haven't had too many problematic haven evacuations because Ive been luckily getting them while my A or B team + some equipment is around

this one is just a shitshow though, I tried to slough through it by giving everyone 3 flashbangs and hoping my laser sniper + assault could handle some thngs but every enemy spawning right on the cliffs near the LZ fucked it over.

Welp, hit and run from the awc was amazing for my ranger.
>grapple up to a flanking position
>shoot twice with light em up
>get a free double move and LoS the remaining ayys
So much fun.

>>167311824
Delete config folder and reload game. Works well enough for me.

If you're paranoid, back up config folder in secure location before deleting.

>>167311679

Last alien on the mission, it died on that turn anyway.

Also it's a sectoid.

>>167311731
I have had several beers. I do apologize.

>hack a Longbow MEC
>it instantly loses its hack when I hit End Turn

literally what the fuck

>>167309151
Oh jesus, dude. I recently unsubbed from all the female ones to make space (cause I'm only using males this run for muh uniforms). I can take a look at it, boss.

>>167311987
>Moderate-Heavy
>8 days, 6 hours
Maybe a two-man stelf could take it down enough to be feasible, but I personally wouldn't take that chance.

hope you have that death from above sharpshooter, eh

>>167313221
>sharpshooters
>hitting things
They take longer to ramp up then they did in X1, LW, and X2. It's awful.

>>167313221
>death from above
>implying there is always a change in elevation i can actually utilize

I never used snapshot in xcom 1 or xcom 2.
Long war 2 was the one thing to change this since I'm not going to waste time holo-targeting, and I'm also not going to waste time moving them to a higher elevation.

>>167309729
>"This sounds like a job for ambassador pineapple!"

>Boom!

>It seems like we have reached a resolution!

>>167313640
the problem with snap-shot is that its a permanent de-buff to your aim past 5 tiles of squad sight, regardless of if you moved

>>167313693
it hurts man

>>167313693
But now there is no aim penalty for moving. Being mobile is just too important, and snipers are technically about as durable as everyone else. Low profile helps alot. Add damn good ground defense to that and they become more survivable then the rest of your guys.

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>>167313320
They don't.

Early game, it's trivial to get a sharpshooter (Corporal) with a laser rifle (+5 aim), tracer rounds (+5 aim), stock (+15 aim) Damn High Ground (+30 aim) with zero squadsight penalties.

Hitting things is not the issue at all - it's that their complete lack of mobility makes them an absolute liability in the vast kind of missions., and that there are other classes that do the same role better in a sense (like the gunner - who is even more mobile than the ranger and packs an auto-hit from corporal, making him both reliable and solid for picking off an enemy, before even factoring suppression).

What sniper sharpshooters need to become even remotely viable in that kind of mission needing mobility is some kind of 'go to ground' ability that lets them auto-evac themselves after a delay or something similar. The closest thing they have is conceal, but it doesn't help with timers.

They're a solid choice for missions that don't suffer from timers, but the problem is, well, so is just using a holotargeter. Or better yet, not using a sharpshooter at all.

>>167313885
>stock (+15 aim)
and then you can only fire every other turn.

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>>167313923
If only we had some kind of ability that made killing an enemy only cost half an action... it'd be even better if that ability removed squadsight penalties, too. And just imagine if it was available from lance corporal onwards, wow. Sniper sharpshooters would be good from early game!

>>167314008
If you take that shit you can't holotarget and shoot, and it's not guaranteed to even trigger.

>>167313221

Sharpshooter? More like, bluntshitters lmao

>get rapid reaction for ranger
>holy shit THREE overwatch shots, after shooting once with light em up? sign me the fuck up
>ranger proceeds to miss every single overwatch shot, so RR doesn't even proc
Well that was a huge disappointment.

>>167314605
Probably should't have taken a blind bat as a ranger. Also grab the reroll if miss perk, grazes count for rapid reaction.

So why the shit does losing health bonuses given by armour and utility items make you wounded?

>>167314080
>You can't holotarget and shoot
I had no idea. Thanks for letting me know. You don't need it with the aim bonuses you can get though, really, and holotarget and shoot can only be done once every four turns. I like to shoot more often than that.
>It's not guaranteed to even trigger.
Is a fair point. Hitting is trivial with the absurd stacking aim bonuses, even against targets in full cover, provided you've stacked the deck (and they haven't, sergeants will still make you cry).

Dodges, however, will completely wreck your shit.
>>167314605
I remember some rocketeer mod gave Rapid Reaction at like first level. Watching a single soldier nearly singlehandedly wipe overwatch ambushes was great. It was amazing seeing it go from 'absolute garbage +3 aim' in LW1 to broken as hell in that.

>>167314732
That's the thing, absurd aim stacking doesn't exist or is hell to achieve both in the strategic and the tactical layer.

>>167314661
My ranger has like 100 aim.

>>167314837
Nice. What rank are they? Also that's a 65% to hit.

>>167314837
With elite hair triggers and cool under pressure? You should get over 100 effective aim at that point

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>>167303383
Seriously, does anyone know if Sassy Vipers are compatible with Long War 2?
I skipped using them on my first, base-game play-through because I wanted to see how they'd act canonically, but since Long War 2 is a secondary play-through I'm fine with throwing lore out a bit.

>>167315049
Before modifiers I believe. I'm on a mission right now, I'll check after I get back to the avenger. Or at least if I'm not forced to stare at its underside for the hundredth time.

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>>167314816
As I just listed... with an advanced scope (+10), laser rifle (+5), advanced stock (+20) damn high ground (+30) tracer rounds (5) rank bonuses (11) and assuming you picked the autistic retard who fails at all stats but aim (say, 70+) you can easily have 145+ aim, guaranteeing a hit (well, graze) in full cover.

But it's honestly a fair bit of effort and short of defensive missions I find a gunner with Hail of Bullets works just as well for when I need them in a pinch, particularly since it ignores dodge/graze/etc.

>>167314837
Overwatch applies something like a 0.7x multiplier to shots. If you don't have 140+ aim, it ain't enough.

>>167315138
>advanced scope
>advanced stock
Damn, nice drops.
I always put my scopes on rangers.

>>167315210
You get a ton of drops when you get vulture and supplies snowball fast enough to make the make your own mods upgrade a decent investment

>>167315323
Most of my runs die before that point.

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>>167312882
Well we're taking that chance. Sent in my top covert ops-specced Shinobi to scout and carve a path and one of my Rangers with a Laser Rifle to carry out the assassination.
If they fail then oh well, its becoming more and more prevalent as I progress that this war isn't going to be won by playing it safe.
In the meantime though, ADVENT is carrying out an Intel Raid but they forgot to bring enough troops. So I get to bring 6 fairly well-equipped Corporals and Sergeants against Very Light activity. AYYPOCALYPSE NOW

>>167315138
>damn high ground (+30)
I thought it was +10

>>167314676
Magnificent

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>>167315210
Well, for at least one of those items let's just say I'm never out of stock. Scopes are relative priority to buy for obvious reasons and you get a ton of extra supplies (at least on veteran, since I'm shit at the game).

I mostly use scopes on my rangers too, but I've started to favour gunners over rangers due to having more flexibility - aoe with curtain, autohit with hail, single target with chain/cyclic, and they can do all this on the move combined with suppression, making them better in the mobile meta (ironic that gunners are more mobile).

The rangers secondary is godlike though, and amusingly makes them far better defensively than the gunner. How the turn tables.

>>167315094

Isn't that just a cosmetic animation mod for vipers? It should be perfectly compatible.

>>167315118
Nah, it was 85 aim unmodified. Rank is gunnery sgt (captain). I think part of the problem is that I went with a mix of defense and offense, for example I took fortify instead of grazing fire.

She has DGG and hit and run from the AWC though, which make her an excellent soldier, just not an overwatch bot. Vigilant too, so if she has to dash she's not completely useless. I think I took RR due to its inherent synergy with ever vigilant.

>>167315930
But what if they add new animations, or it doesn't work with new sneks?

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>>167315523
>You get control of the resistance members and your stationed soldier too
Oh my fuck this REALLY is going to be Ayypocalypse. What the fuck were they thinking sending only a Very Light force against 11 people?

Rendezous' are so fucking boring.

>>167316082

Well i'm going to make it shorter then, i don't know, try it and find out.

>>167316184
In an immersion sense you can think of it as they're dedicating too many people to protect that VIP you're trying to assassinate so they didn't have much to spare for the Raid.

>>167309079
AWOOOOOOOOO
Payday 2 Jimmy voicepack

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>starting a moderate strength mission because it's a liberation one
I fucked up, haven't I?

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I never asked for this

>>167318271
Yes you did, by sending just 4 soldats on a mission.

>>167314080
>>167314008
>>167313885
The Holotargeter being on the sniper is moronic to the extreme.

There needs to be a Scout class which is about stealth and utility with an infiltrator class, which stealth and damage.

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>>167318120
eh, wasn't that bad

>>167319436
Fuck off you retarded memester.

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>>167319532

>>167319728
Stupid dumb frogposter

>>167316257
this

Why is area suppression so buggy?
>suppress both drone and mec, targeting the mec
>drone moves, gets shot, tanks the hit, shoots and misses
>mec is now unsuppressed and can move without taking a hit and then nukes two of my wounded soldiers at the back with explosives

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Oh damn I just realized the new long war is out. Xcom 2 bought and long war downloaded. Time for 'fun'.

>>167321941
>modding your first campaign
>installing a massive unfinished overhaul on your first campaign
baka desu senpai

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>>167321941
Prepare for hilariously imbalanced changes and unintuitive gameplay additions that both punish you for fighting and also punish you for not knowing everything about everything from minute one.

>>167313885
The lack of mobility got exacerbated with some of the maps I've been rolling, where I have 8 turns of yellow moving and 3 turns of actually attempting to complete the objective.

A holotargeter makes for a great officer, though.

>>167292225
>>167292368
>>167293183
What are the good map mods?

>>167322874
And yet as buggy, unbalanced and unfinished as it is it's still fun.

Need some strategy layer tips for Long War 2. I seem to be running into a lot of missions where I can only send like four units. I'm not taking every mission, but am I really supposed to be skipping so many until I find one with 6+ days left? I keep sending four units in to handle like 20 aliums and it's just not working. Also that fucking reinforcement dark event is killing me. I think I'm about to overcome the odds and then suddenly I have five more all over me, and it's not even showing where they're going to drop like vanilla did.

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>>167324306
>there exists a timeline where jake has fixed his game and lump made a mod without a raging beagle hate boner

>>167324415
Are you managing your resistance haven? You can put more people working on intel which should give you more time for infiltration

>>167324518
I know you can do that, but I don't know how and I don't know how many people to keep in hiding or not. Is there some sort of indication that I should start putting people into hiding? Also, what exactly does assigning specific people from your soldiers, scientists, and engineers do? And does the avenger scanning on specific havens provide bonuses to it?

>>167324615
>but I don't know how
I know how, I meant to say I don't know how to do it effectively, what balance and such.

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Am I ready to get memed or should I add more mods?

>>167324747
more

>>167325140
Suggestions?

>>167324615
At first I put everyone on intel, and when I got some more resistance personnel from missions I put those on supply/recruit.

After a while though I got a mission where ADVENT tried to hinder my intel gathering (basically a defend the beacon mission), so to avoid that you put your guys in hiding.

>>167325162
the mod that uninstalls the game so you can do something else because its shit

>>167325162

Spec ops class, Tactical suppressors.

Once an area has been liberated is there any reason to your personnel there do anything other than supply? Should I still give them advisor or do infiltrations also stop?

I hate subbing to so many mods. Is it difficult to merge mods? I was thinking I could get the weapon mods I use and stick into one pack so it just shows up as one thing in my list. Would that take long at all?

>>167325280
What makes SpecOps different from Shinobi?

>>167325370

They can kill without breaking concealment, they have throwing knives and remote C4. They are fun.

>>167325224
MEme so dank, dank dank meme!

Meme so dAnk it make me SCREAM

>>167325162
>>167302912

>>167325475
Can you still distract enemies without breaking concealment? Like if I wanted to move enemies away from the objective could I set up a diversion somewhere with the specops abilities ir equipment

>>167327229

>Plant X4 (You carry two charges of X4 with a remote trigger. Planting X4 is a free action and does not break concealment. Triggering all previous planted X4 is a free action and does not break concealment but cannot be used in the same round with planting. X4 does 8-10 damage, shred 2 and armor pierce 2 in 8 tile radius)

Probably.

>>167327447
Does it activate pods and they react to the explosion though?

Customizing soldiers is more fun than playing the game. Don't pretend it isn't true.

>>167327516

I haven't gotten far enough in LW2 to get my SpecOps that high, but i don't see why they wouldn't react.

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>>167327552
>playing with customized soldiers is more fun than randoms
ftfy

only problem is it sucks worse when they die

>>167305674
I only allow Aryans into my army, they are the most reliable.

>>167327762
>puke-green MEC
What the fuck is that shit

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>>167328018
A MEC Archer

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>>167310324
The rest of the bundle becomes available in an hour. What are the odds DLC is included?

>>167328018
It is fire. It is death.

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Now am I ready to be memed on?

>>167328696
Way too many mods.

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>>167327762

>that green garbage mec

I can understand that making new models and stuff is hard and time consuming but wow, it literally looks like a toy.

>>167329030
It's barely even 50, and a large chunk is just cosmetic.

>>167329030
>Too many mods
I have 211 mods, come at me fag.

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>>167328696

True Concealment LW2
Flawless
Mod Achievement system
MercPlasmaWeapons
Avenger events
Squad Notoriety
Capped scrolling speed

>>167329334
Does partial mission completion work with LW2?

Is Merc Plasma just cosmetic?

>>167329548

No idea

Yes, but they are separate from the vanilla weapons, they don't replace them.

ayy

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Thank you RealityMachina, you are doing Lumps work.

That brings me to the question.

WHERE
THE
FUCK
IS
SECOND WAVE?

Or something like it.
How much of this games problems could be solved with a well formatted Second Wave options menu at the start of the game?
I think it would cut a pretty hefty chunk of them.
I was ranting to have one even before this fucking game released and I though Pavonis would atleast realize that players want to be able to customize their campaigns to be just perfect to their own tastes.

>>167321515
Sounds like you ran out of ammo.

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>>167329283

>watching Bagel's new videos
>enemies literally give him free flanks and waste turns on every single mission
Okay, no, seriously, how does he do it? Why does this never happen in my game?

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>>167330898

>>167330702
There has been a ton of attempts to bring second wave back in the game via mods.
Most of them are buggy iirc so use at your own risk.

>>167330898
anon pls

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>>167330898

I'm going to need the sauce on that

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>>167330898
>handholding

Jesus fucking christ anon.

>>167330898
End yourself, degenerate.

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>>167329283
>>167329030
>>167330834
Get on my fucking level plebs

>>167330898
WHY

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>>167292053
So I was thinking, people were stalking about how they didn't like the infinite tactical dark even stacking, but they enjoyed how ADVENT regional strength functions, which is a response to a successful player which forces you to decide whether to stay in a region, or decide it is too hot and move on.

So what if tactical dark events were instead regional resources that ADVENT can shuffle around in response to your activities? This would mean that different regions would have different tactical disadvantages to fighting in, and you escape some of the really bad ones by switching regions before ADVENT shifted their strength and tactical dark events to the region you have been running the most missions for. Strategic ones would still be global, with the obvious drawback that they expire after a month or two.

Furthermore, liberating a region could give you chances at missions to eliminate these tactical dark events, as now the ADVENT resources would now be vulnerable in essentially hostile territory.
Finally, just like you can intercept troop columns moving to a region, you could intercept tactical dark events moving to a region, those these should be extremely tough, as doing them after the liberating a region is the encourage way.
What do guys think? I think that adding this would shore up some player choice and control over their campaign and add some additional depth to the strategic layer. The rate at which dark events happen could be slightly sped up to compensate.

>>167331539
What are those lega, arms and torso pack?

>>167330898
Goddammit

>>167331914
nude mods

>>167331914
loverslab

nude mods based on the anarchy's children bodies

bretty sexy if you like skinny/athletic builds

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>mfw Guerilla War makes progress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0knCzORVLk

Shiiiiett i want to play that instead of LW2

>>167332346
If Guerilla War ever finishes their strategic layer, I will be so hyped

>>167307689
yes

>>167332000

t-t-theres some decent pants in that pack...

honest!

>>167333169
yeah the assless power armor chaps

like wtf how does that shit work

>>167331890
I think that'd be cool. Get a supply raid in a region with viper rounds so you gotta try to get advent to move it before you do the raid

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>>167332346
>Still in Alpha
>Mods are getting split up
Not looking to good.

What's the best way to play Enemy Within if I'm a newbie to the series and don't want an autistic 100+ hour long war campaign?

Should I just kill or capture a dark vip in LW2?
Does it take away the intel reward if I kill them like in vanilla X2?

Any good Russian voice mod ? Male and Female.

>>167334049
I just 100% kill, you don't get the intel reward but honestly FUCK taking them alive. Those assassinate maps are so ridiculously small that every enemy is in sound range and there's a million strong as fuck pods.

>>167334161
There are the XCOM1 voicepacks, pretty sure those have good Russian.

>>167295492
doesnt seem to have done anything, still have guys with negative defense

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>>167330898

The heck did I miss?

>>167335383
Cancer to rival furries

>>167335383
shitty sfm of a snek

>>167335504
>>167335849
what did it entail?

>>167335901
A free ride in the Skyranger

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>>167335504

Hand holding? Ponies? LEWD posters?

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>>167335849

Oh. Nevermind.

>>167335984
was it this?
>>167310214

>>167334263

the worst ones are the ones where the vip is indoors in a huge building, so you have to inside and you activate like 3 pods from 3 different angles shooting down and flanking you

i just nuke the vip from distance and get

Is the Ambush an ADVENT Troop Column a timed mission?

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BF4 Body Ports when?

>>167337017
>tfw someone gos full autismo bringing over mass effect but only a few people have brought over tact kits
I need more plate carriers and tac vests.

Do you guys get the Avenger Landing Gear locked screen after completing missions?

It happens semi frequently to me

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>>167340942

nah man never heard of that

>>167340942
Happened twice in my history with vainilla, it has yet to happen in LW

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heres a cool menu screen

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It was working last night and I didn't change anything. I just saved during Avenger Defense. Does anyone know how to fix this?

why is not created equally always on by default its fucking dumb

>>167341705
It's fun with commander's choice

>>167340942
Had it happen once with ABA2 and that's about it.

>>167340942
Me too. No fix. Just got to close the game and restart. Just hit F5 to quicksave right before you end a mission.

>>167335094
New camping or a ongoing one?

Everyone new that you recluit should have those new stats, so you need new total people or start a new one.

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4th LW2 camp starting, the fresh feeling is so good.

None the less, I am bit annoyed that I've already had to do this 4 times due to either surprise avatar project, chasing the wrong objectives or the game wrecking my ass.

>>167341362
>black soldier with the sidecut
Ruined.

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>>167341958
>doing mission
>move psi-op to kill last soldier of pod
>mfw two civilians lined up just perfectly for a null lance hit

>>167341958
>>167342793
What is this meme about killing civilians?

>6 people on overwatch
>muton climbs onto plateau
>everyone shoots
>graze x6
>it lives and throws a plasma grenade at us

I kind of thought turning the graze band down to zero was a meme but now I know better

>>167342868
>collaborators
>potential faceless
>more than willing to let ADVENT know you're there
>hide behind corners, out of sight and detect your guys
>hog cover that you want to use
>dirty fucking collaborators
They're the worst.

what should you research first in lw2

im assuming communications

>>167343109
Thanks for explaining. So do I just kill civs then?

>>167343205
They're not really a priority target, the faceless thing is a dark event. I'm just saying that you shouldn't feel bad at all about killing them.

>>167342868
Collateral damage is just the norm for every single x-com/xcom game. Civies must die so others may live.

>flanking shot from two blocks away
>grazed

>>167341362
A negro chinese?

>>167343561
Better than missing altogether. If it helps, you can think of the enemy interfering with you lining up the shot. I mean, turn based system is supposed to be an abstraction of real life, and nobody is just going to just stand there and let you shoot them.

If you think about it, it's actually a lot easier to move out of the way of the shot in close range since the one holding the gun will have to make greater adjustments to account for your movement.

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So does an infiltration time longer than the mission expiration time mean I would miss the mission or I just wouldn't go in fully infiltrated?
Does that effect anything in particular or is it just like a time to start the mission kind of thing?

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Uh so I installed about 40+ mods and now the launcher inst loading. Is this normal or do I need to reset everything?

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>mod replacing default music with DOOM ost

Improved the game more than I expected..

>>167343349

Actually, there's still a small chance of civies on guerilla ops still being faceless, dark event or no

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>GRAZE ON A 100% SHOT

FUCK

OFF

>>167345293
thats how long it would take to get to the baseline

when the mission is about to expire it will make you launch it or abort it

>>167345473
i got the mod for blood dragon ost

then disabled that and got the halo odst one mid campaign

new campaign now but sometimes blod dragon music plays, sometimes odst and sometimes default

>>167345712
What does the baseline actually affect and such?

>>167345712
>sometimes blod dragon music plays, sometimes odst and sometimes default
There is an option to disable the default stuff at least I think..

>>167345813
number of enemies

>>167345813
https://steamcommunity.com/app/268500/discussions/0/143388132201785281/

0 Extremely Light 6-9
1 Very Light 10-12
2 Light 13-15
3 Light-Moderate 16-18
4 Moderate 19-21
5 Moderate-Heavy 22-24
6 Heavy 25-27
7 Very Heavy 28-30
8 Extremely Heavy 30-32
9+ Swarming 33+

>>167345902
>>167346023
So it's a good idea to shoot for the baseline or less then? How sharply does the percentage go up/down?

Is it just like a flat % to %?

Like if you had 10 days for the squad to infiltrate but 8 days for the mission to expire you'd read 80% infiltration and have two more levels of enemies to deal with? Or if you have 8 days to infiltrate and the mission expired in 16 you'd have 200% infiltration and have three less levels of enemies to deal with?
Or is it less intuitive than that?

>>167346335
I'd pretty much never go for a mission that couldn't at least be boosted to baseline. Going for anything higher than very light is also a pretty big risk.

>>167345673
Dodge. I actually found the grazing to be less frustrating than dodge shit in vanilla.

>>167346335
My man read the link and also watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn78E_7ZJes

>>167346437
It's a risk only if you're on a timer. After killing the first pod you can jut call evac and extract if things get hairy

>>167345673
how tho

Grazes only happen when it rolls within 10% of the threshold. With a 100% shot, that shouldn't be possible, should it?

so

HEAT warheads or tandem warheads?

this decision makes me anxious every time

>Swarming supply raid in december
>Take control of a hunter drone
>ALIEN ACTIVITY
>all enemies on the map pass their turn

Guess i found out where the ADVENT commands come from.

>>167346954
No, it's definitely possible. I think it adds and substracts the amount of percentage points according to the graze band; if you've set it to 10% and you're at exactly at 100%, you should have exactly a 10% chance to graze. If you're at 90%, you should have a 80% chance to hit, 20% chance to graze, and 0% chance to miss. If your accuracy is at 110%, you should have 0% chance to graze before factoring in dodge.