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Returned to the ocean: >>167201686

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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I WILL DO OBSCENE ACTS WITH THE DOLL
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PURGE FILTH
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P U R G E
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>>167281768
The helmet is such an odd design. I love it, but why the bell shape?
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>>167281687
No, he's weak to bolt though
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>>167281542
I removed this part from the OP:
>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html
since it's pretty obsolete now. If you think that it's necessary feel free to add it back in the next thread.
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>>167281854
>The conical gold helmet, symbol of the executioners, represents luminosity, ambition, and an unflagging resolve to face impurity, staring it down with stern golden spirit
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>>167281854
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repostan
>shotgun watcher lever guard in frc dropped radiant radial
does this mean he'll never drop BLT gems?
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>>167282503
pls rember that wen u feel scare or frigten never forget ttimes wen u feeled happy wen day is beastly alway rember insightful day
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>>167282503
>image search on google
>it says pc game
heh
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>>167282789
The salt is real
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beat the HBLB my first try with this character and now this FRC pig is kicking my ass.
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>fighting Keeper of the Old Lords in defiled pthumeru

>piss easy

>except for that one hit she gets in that instantly kills me

Fuck this half-health bullshit.
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One Reborn is such a fucking chore, worst designed boss of ALL the MyASSaki's games.
>Do perfectly against him
>Ooops, 1hit by slam attack
>run to him again
>do perfectly against him
>HAHA pinned against a wall because he suddenly spun 270 degrees at the speed of light
>die
>run to him again
>do perfectly against him
>HAHA FUCK YOU 1HIT FROM 1000 CORPSE-RAINS SEEMINGLY AT ONCE
>not to mention you have to LMAO RUN AROUND KILLING 6 WITCHES, BECAUSE "MUH GIMMICK"

REEEEETARD DEVELOPERS!

Are the coders at FROM fucking retarded? Did they miss out on something essential?
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On a church pick build, what secondary weapon do you use? Given how versatile it is, it ends up overlapping with every other weapon in some area or two. So how do you complement a weapon that complements everything else?
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>grab animation ends
>run in to get a hit
>get grabbed
>die
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Rom is such a fucking chore, worst designed boss of ALL the MyASSaki's games.
>Do perfectly against him
>Ooops, 1hit by aoe
>run to him again
>do perfectly against him
>HAHA killed because he suddenly exploded 360 degrees at the speed of light
>die
>run to him again
>do perfectly against him
>HAHA FUCK YOU 1HIT FROM 1000 MAGIC-RAINS SEEMINGLY AT ONCE
>not to mention you have to LMAO RUN AROUND KILLING 600 SPIDERS, BECAUSE "MUH GIMMICK"

REEEEETARD DEVELOPERS!

Are the coders at FROM fucking retarded? Did they miss out on something essential?
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>>167283910
Something FUN.
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>>167283831
>getting hit by the One Reborn, ever
>giving him a chance to hit you when touching it once makes it pass out for two minutes straight
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Micolash is such a fucking chore, worst designed boss of ALL the MyASSaki's games.
>Do perfectly against him
>Ooops, 1hit by A Call Beyond
>run AFTER him again
>do perfectly against him
>HAHA pinned against a wall because he suddenly summoned 270 skeletons at the speed of light
>die
>run to him again
>do perfectly against him
>HAHA FUCK YOU 1HIT FROM 1000 UNARMED HITS SEEMINGLY AT ONCE
>not to mention you have to LMAO RUN AROUND GETTING AWOO'd AT, BECAUSE "MUH GIMMICK"

REEEEETARD DEVELOPERS!

Are the coders at FROM fucking retarded? Did they miss out on something essential?
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>>167284076
CHURCH PICK IS TOO FUN
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>>167283910
>On a church pick build
What church pick build?
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Father Gascoigne is such a fucking chore, worst designed boss of ALL the MyASSaki's games.
>Do perfectly against him
>Ooops, 1hit by slam attack
>run to him again
>do perfectly against him
>HAHA pinned against a wall because he suddenly spin'd to win 720 degrees at the speed of light
>die
>run to him again
>do perfectly against him
>HAHA FUCK YOU 1HIT FROM 1000 FURIOUS BEAST-FORM SWIPES SEEMINGLY AT ONCE
>not to mention you have to LMAO RUN AROUND PLAYING A FUCKING MUSIC BOX, BECAUSE "MUH GIMMICK"

REEEEETARD DEVELOPERS!

Are the coders at FROM fucking retarded? Did they miss out on something essential?
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Esther, I'll be back in a bit. Dinner's ready, shouldn't take more than thirty minutes tops.
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>>167284119
I'd suggest Amy Arm if you're doing quality because Amy Arm is F.U.N plus the really wide vertical swings while being one-handed is great for crows control.
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>>167284193
This church pick build.
>>167284254
Great suggestion, I'll look into it.
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Maria is such a fucking chore, worst designed boss of ALL the MyASSaki's games.
>Bully her
>she dies, I go on with my life

REEEEETARD DEVELOPERS!

Are the coders at FROM fucking retarded? Did they miss out on something essential?
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Anyone wanna help me sprint through Defiled Pthumeru?
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Cleric Beast is such a fucking chore, worst designed boss of ALL the MyASSaki's games.
>Do perfectly against him
>Ooops, 1hit by slam attack
>run to him again
>do perfectly against him
>HAHA pinned against a wall because he suddenly spun around 270 degrees at the speed of light
>die
>run to him again
>do perfectly against him
>HAHA FUCK YOU 1HIT FROM 1000 FURIOUS REEEEEEEEE SWIPES SEEMINGLY AT ONCE
>not to mention you have to "LMAO DON'T LOCK ON" BECAUSE "MUH GIMMICK"

REEEEETARD DEVELOPERS!

Are the coders at FROM fucking retarded? Did they miss out on something essential?
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Witches of Hemwick is such a fucking chore, worst designed boss of ALL the MyASSaki's games.
>Do perfectly against her
>Ooops, 1hit by grab attack
>run to her again
>do perfectly against her
>HAHA pinned against a wall because she suddenly summoned 720 spooky men at the speed of light
>die
>run to him again
>do perfectly against her
>HAHA FUCK YOU 1HIT FROM 1000 PARALYZING PROJECTILES SEEMINGLY AT ONCE
>not to mention you have to LMAO IT'S FUCKING TWO OF HER BECAUSE "MUH GIMMICK"

REEEEETARD DEVELOPERS!

Are the coders at FROM fucking retarded? Did they miss out on something essential?
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To the anon that was helping me: I need to run and pick up some ritual materials for Pthumeru Ihyll, so please give me a second.
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Gehrman is such a fucking chore, worst designed boss of ALL the MyASSaki's games.
>Do perfectly against him
>Ooops, 1hit by visceral attack
>run to him again
>do perfectly against him
>HAHA pinned against a wall because he suddenly jumped 270m into the air at the speed of light
>die
>run to him again
>do perfectly against him
>HAHA FUCK YOU 1HIT FROM 1000 R1'S SEEMINGLY AT ONCE
>not to mention you have to LMAO FEEL BAD ABOUT THE TRAGIC STORY OF GEHRMAN, BECAUSE "MUH FEELS"

REEEEETARD DEVELOPERS!

Are the coders at FROM fucking retarded? Did they miss out on something essential?
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These copypastas are stale and unfunny.
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>>167282676
You inspire me. I made this for you anon-kun
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>>167285112
t. author of original Whine Reborn post
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>>167285404
Thank you anon, saved
Have some rare Micolashs
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>Living Failures
>charged R2 with Church Pick does jack fucking shit
>ANOTHER fucking boss with a ton of health

Time to put this game on the shelf for a while
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https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/22038

Church pick + whatever BT side weapon I get, plus access to evelyn. How is it?
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>>167285112
Anon is such a fucking chore, worst human being of ALL gods creations.
>Do perfect shitpost
>calls it copypasta
>shitpost again
>do it perfectly
>HAHA stale because he's a newfag that doesn't know what stale means
>die
>shitpost again
>do it perfectly
>HAHA FUCK YOU UNFUNNY BECAUSE ANON IS A MASTERMEMER AND DECIDES WHATS FUNNY AND WHATS NOT
>not to mention you have to LMAO EVADE BANS BECAUSE MODS WILL SURELY BAN THIS SAD SHITPOST

REEEEETARD ANONS!

Are the anons at 4chan fucking retarded? Did they miss out on something essential?
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>>167286039
Didn't mean to trigger you bro, sorry
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>>167286039
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>>167286001
Should have lone survivor origin. You need 10 str for chikage (skill/blt), rakuyo, rifle spear and burial blade. 11 str allows you to use the loch shield for turtling with the reiter (with extra damage thanks to the 50 blt),
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Yep, I give up. Im fucking done with this fucking game. I cant deal with these bosses that have 3-5 christ fucking enemies at once. I just cant deal with this. I will NEVER beat this god damn game. Im so angry Im seeing red. Also, god damn motherfucking guides say Yamamura should be able to be summoned outside the fog after you kill him, yet he is nowhere to be found. I dont even want to look at this game case. This is just ridiculous.
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>ATK Down
>ATK Down
>ATK Down
>ATK Down
>ATK Down
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Anyone wanna come bully Ebriatas?
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>>167285874
boooooolt paper
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>>167286362
Reiter seems meh to me and loch shield seems like something for pvp and not pve. Where do I use loch shield in PVE anyway? Logarius?

The problem with church pick for me is it's so versatile. With BT, I could work on the lack of ranged options a skill build commonly has and reiter doesn't seem like the answer for ranged damage, just a parry weapon on main hand.

Rifle spear seems like a gimmicky weapon as well. Rakuyo, that's definitely fair and I'll put in 10 str because of that.
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>>167283831
>worst designed boss of ALL the MyASSaki's games.
Hi
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>>167286873
I'm saying for you to have lone survivor origin, which means you'll have 11 strength and 7 arcane all the rest equal.
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>>167286873
church pick gets more ar from 0-25str than 25-50skl so your build is suboptimal for it anyway
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>>167285874
Stats, gems, weapon level? Bolt paper adds 80 bolt damage to every attack, which they're weak to. Beast Blood Pellets add at least 20% more damage as long as the meter is on the screen, and more if you keep attacking. They're also weak to thrust, the transformed Church Pick's full moveset is thrust damage, and more of the regular version's moves are as well, but not the normal charged R2. The regular R2 is thrust.
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>hidden village of whatever
holy fuck these enemies are wrecking me

somehow this game got even harder for me, goddamn

I SAW THAT FUCKING WITCH RUN BY AND SHE STILL SLIT MY THROAT
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>>167287094
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/22040

That's true. With classic 25/50 str and assuming I'll stop at 120, what leftover points should I invest into?

Something like this https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/22041
ex. I have 18 arcane for augur so I can parry /backstab even in 2H mode and dumped the rest into endurance for longer chains/dodging.
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>>167287331
leave now, don't come back until you finish the game, do the DLC after nightmare of mensis.
please go, don't get spoiled
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I'm just trying PVP out for the first time in mergos after making my build for coop, and everyone I have been matched up with has done pathetic damage to me while being destroyed by my gems. It almost makes me feel bad
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>>167287460
you could go to 20arc for gloves or swap to a higher bt origin for like 25bt and an evelyn
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>>167287875
But doesn't evelyn need a lot of BT to scale properly? With just base BT, a hunter pistol is all I need for parrying offhand.

Glove damage is low even at 50 arc, 20 is nothing. I'd use gloves for zoning out people in PVP though.
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>>167287508
>do the DLC after nightmare of mensis
You would miss the doll's lines of dialogue that way.
Doing it before Micolash is ideal.
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>>167287508
i already know the major beats of the game but im still finding shit I didnt know about, dont worry anon
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>>167288039
25bt is enough to do solid damage with the evelyn, gloves are for comboing and zoning
it's an excess of points, do with it what you want
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Man, fuck chalice dungeons. They're ugly as sin, repetitive, and boring. And they get super tedious later on, when a basic mob takes like 6 hits to kill and takes off 2/3s your health in one blow. Once I get the trophy I'm never touching this shit again.
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>>167284248
Thirty minutes, just like I said. Still want some company through the chalices?
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>>167286841
>>167287108

Doing STR build. Summoned Yamamura, still couldnt beat it. Tried Beast Cutter and Church Pick in all forms, nothing worked. Got close one time and a nigger snuck up behind me and stomped me. Wasted all my Bolt papers. I give up. This game wins. I cant handle all the anger this game makes me feel.
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>>167288704
That's an hour dude
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>>167288797
What level are you? 12?
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>>167288883
That's the joke
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>>167288919

Level 67. Nothing I do works. I dont even know why Im playing this game when I cant beat even the easiest of bosses by myself.
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Someone want to help me out with defiled hot dog?
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Friendly reminder that the doll is not a princess
She's just a doll
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>tfw i never get (you)'s anymore
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How the fuck do i make these shitty ass claws work?

50str/25skl and they seem terrible.
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>>167289315
Here's a (you)

now come help me kill defiled doggo
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>>167289354
they're bad
you have to get on someones dick and r1 mash
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>>167289226
You got PS+? Summon me and I can help out
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>savescumming on watchers
>get a waning out of shape bolt 26% with beast down
why is it always when you don't need them
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>>167289363
aight, be there in a min
>making me put down my left over dominos for this
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>>167289464
Defiled Pthumeru 2, lamp, pass is bbg
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>>167289363
>>167289464
password?
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>>167289354
Master jumping attacks
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>>167289270
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>>167289574
bbg
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>>167289440

Thanks, but I want to be able to beat these kinds of bosses by myself, which I apparently will never be able to do. I dont have the reaction time or the instincts the good people here do. My confidence is completely shattered, after having a good night last night. Gonna try playing something else for a while, ill be too terrified to play this game. Peace out guys.
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>>167289623
ringing, but my internets abit of a meme so might take awhile or might not connect at all
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>>167289918
>90% of the way there

>single dash kills me

Wanna give it one more go? If I don't get him this time I'll just take a break for tonight.
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same anon from yesterday who was getting fucked by the pthmeru or w/e chalice dungeon layer 2 boss

if anyone wants to help out that would be great. i set the pass to bbg and im ringing at the entrance to layer 2

im dreamin
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>>167290220
of course my man, you gave me a (you) after all. reringing
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I'm uploading my save to USB right now, anyone want or need waning nourishings? I'll start beckoning if anyone is interested, pass is amyg$ and the glyph is ske4igwv.
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>cooperator returned to their world
aight fuck u then
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>>167290220
check the pm thing i just sent you if you havnt done
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>>167290767
yep
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>>167290767
>stunlocked to death

Thanks for the attempt, my man, but I think I'm gonna take a break and do something else for a bit, come back to hot dog tomorrow.
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>>167291169
alright no worries, if im around and your struggling to summon for him again then just pm me on there and il help
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>24 posters
>94 posts
>hardly any shitposting
i love you /bbg/, this general is like the log cabin with a cosy fireplace in /vg/
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>>167291475
>hardly any shitposting
Excuse me
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>>167291549
compared to the other generals my man
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this is killing me
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>die to living failures
>put down controller
>controller rests on couch, depresses r2 with a feather's touch
>character hits simon, once
>he aggros

FUCK

OFF

I shut down the console immediately. I guess we'll see if I got it in time. Probably not.
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>>167291980
kek
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>>167289610
someone post that micolash edit of pic related
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>>167291984
Nope! Guess I get the Bowblade early!

Hahahahaha FUCK

What happened to needing 2 hits to aggro to avoid this exact scenario?!
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>>167292203
maybe you should be less of a faggot next time
idk how that happened, i thought it took 2 aswell. thats sucks friendo.
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I've wanted to play this game since it came out. Is it worth $285 for a BloodborneStation? Is this the only game you guys use your ps4 for?
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>>167293242
Yes, and yes.
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>>167293242
They don't call it a Bloodborne Machine for nothing.
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How do I get back up to the rafters of the research hall after I moved the staircase? Goddamn rat knocked me off.

>>167293242
Yes and no, I play tons of games on this thing.
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>>167293242
id say the 500+ hours i got out of the game was worth the price of a ps4
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>load up my ARC build after not touching it for a few weeks
>Im fucking Level 84 and I havent even beaten One Reborn yet

how bad did I fuck up? I want to finish this run, since my STR run is boring me
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>>167293242
>Two years later and my entire library still consists of the games that came with the console, BB, and DaS3 which I played for a grand total of like two weeks
DeS remaster when?
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>>167293242
Literally bought a used PS4 to play Bloodborne for 220 during Christmas. I already have 97 hours, best 200 bucks I ever spent, this is the game of the generation.
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>>167291980
This post gave my sides eyes
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>>167291980
>not 'walk like a pthumerian'
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>>167293242
Games I have installed on my PS4 RIGHT NOW:

>bloodborne
>dark souls 3
>journey
>titanfall 2
>far cry 4
>let it die
>destiny

And I've got a ton more off the hard drive.
There's games.
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Seriously, is there not a SINGLE MAP of the research hall on the entire internet? How the hell?
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>>167293242
Well to be fair there are exclusives worth playing, and multiplats worth playing, if your pc is a toaster/outdated. But yes, Bloodborne is the best game for on the PS4 and only vaginas say otherwise. I would ask myself how important the souls series is to me before I bought it if I were you.
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>>167294682
>I would ask myself how important the souls series is to me before I bought it if I were you.

Eh, I wouldn't necessarily do that. I actually had very little experience with Souls before I played Bloodborne and it's risen to become one of, if not straight up my favourite game. It's an absolutely fantastic game by itself, to be honest.
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>>167294856
I suppose you could construe it like that. Personally after playing BB, going back to the Souls games is hard. I think it's mostly shields and the focus on defensive play rather than offensive play. I guess asking yourself how much you enjoy the souls series isn't quite the best question to ask when you're deciding on playing BB. It's more like the framework of Dark Souls, but polished to a mirror shine for maximum satisfaction in gameplay, music, and atmosphere.
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>>167294309
>Actually playing Destiny
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>>167295389
Shut up, they got the hooks in me early.

It's my guilty pleasure and it's fun
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Alright you guys convinced me, I'm going RIGHT NOW to buy this. Nioh looks pretty good too so at least I'll have two games for my BBS4.
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>>167295543
For the most part, Nioh only borrows a few aspects of souls, it plays more like a ninja gaiden game.
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>>167295543
After you start, leave the general until you finish your first run
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>getting stunlocked to death by a rat and two ravens at level 98

ahahahahaa
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>>167295514
I'd still be playing Destiny if they had random matchmaking, I fucking hated having to go to the Destiny general and add people to my friends list to play. Bloodborne co-op has me spoiled, I don't want to talk to people, I want to have silent understandings and bonds and spam goofy emotes. The feeling of swooping in and helping some random person with a hard boss feels great, can't do that in Destiny. I'll admit they're pretty cool over there, at least on PS4, one guy held my hand through Crota and Vault of Glass, but it was kind of awkward. Even helped him through Mensis as a thank you.
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>>167295514
>It's fun
Indeed, I love sitting outside of a cave popping trash mobs for hours on end for the hope of getting a purple ball that the blue jew will trade for a blue or green item.
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>>167293859
>Two years later and my entire library still consists of the games that came with the console, BB

Literally me

Thankfully a shit ton of games are coming out this year
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>>167296136
>Red Dead Redemption 2 is console exclusive
Finally, a game worth playing and mustards can't get their filthy hands all over it
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Bring you're Whirligig's, because I am fighting Lawrence and need some help. Password is, of course, bbg.
I'll be ringing just outside the first lantern.
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Any lorefags around? What's the deal with the giant gaping maw/celestial head centipede thing outside Byrgenwerth?
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>>167296107
That was, quite literally, patched out after 2 weeks. Almost three years ago. The game's far better now, but this isn't /dg/ so I'll leave it there.

I unironically enjoyed the loot cave, it was relaxing
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>>167296379
On my way.
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>>167296381
They show up all over dungeons, where they drop Arcane Haze. Probably called from the depths.
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>red
>spiders
so this... is where my hell begins...
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>>167296381
Since Byrgenwerth took a great deal of things from the dungeons, they probably took one of them back with them for research and experimentation. Otherwise, since it seems that everything except for the flower and directly under it get sucked into an Amygdala-style hole, it's possible it grew in Byrgenwerth and matured. The first is more likely though
>>167296510
>hell
I believe you mean "fun"
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>>167296427
All I know was there wasn't enough fun stuff to counterbalance the grind, popping radiance and covering the entire map with solar grenades gets old fast.
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>>167296510
Aren't chalice dungeons _fun_?
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>>167297640
The worst part about that image if the wolf carrying the echoes. I wonder how much he had...
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>>167297621
Shortly before I got rid it, I unlocked some Warlock subclass that gives you lightning powers, the ultra ability was just fuckin flying through the map firing electricity from your hands like a sith lord gone mad, but that's kind of it. It went to truly Korean-tier grinding, far worse than perfect BLT gems, apparently, because shit was timed, and you had to wait an entire fucking week before doing certain mission again for the chance of a random drop with the right stats.
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>>167282503
AWOOOOOO
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>>167298064
Destiny is a game that took all the worst aspects of an MMO and left out all of the good aspects.
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>>167298064
We thought grinding gems was bad, Destiny was way worse. It was almost as bad as grinding Legendary weapons or Raid Bosses in Borderlands. After I figured out I could kill Hyperius the Invincible solo with the right stats (B0re skill with the Kitten), I knew it was time to move on
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>>167298319
I was unaware MMOs had any good aspects.
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Is it really possible to make that jump to the chest in the balcony in hunter's nightmare? The one across the broken path atop the church?

>>167298338
>>167298319
If you seriously think the Destiny grind is remotely as bad as the chalice grind, it's not. It's piss easy.
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>>167298826
It is possible to make the jump, yes.
At least the chalice grind has some slight variation and not boiled down to "point-and-shoot" in most situations
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>>167299009
Made it! Just had to hug the railing for a little extra distance.

Anon, you just boiled down the entire FPS genre to "point-and-shoot". Although, you know what, it's fine! If you find Chalice grinding more entertaining than destiny grinding, that's totally valid. I play mainly for said point-and-shoot, with the loot being a bonus.
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>>167298826
Nigga, chalice grinding is stupidly easy
>Beat the main dungeon
>Make a single FRC dungeon
>pwmf22gu and 5pwujscd, parry the mob threesome a few dozens times until you have decent gems
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>>167299228
I mostly find it's easier to jump from the farthest part to the closest part on the other side.
I don't have as much of an issue with the grinding in Destiny as much as I do other aspects of it, like the story just seeming flat, the game oddly short, or the far easier missions for a good amount of it. I actually enjoyed Evolve, as absurd as that may sound, because without a well-coordinated team, everything could go to shit in a minute or so (trying solo was absolute hell, especially in Defend mode), and the story felt right for the action-movie feel to it. Destiny took itself a little too seriously. Shit, I even still play Payday 2, mostly because I love the movie Heat, and the music score is incredible.
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there are gems that that make your r1 do blood damage and subsequently scale with bloodtinge, right?
i want to go all out and use like bone marrow ash with evelyn, tricked reiter and what not but i don't want a gimped r1
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PIC related is the largest meteorite ever found

does it look a little bit like rom's head?

checkmate athiests
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Fucking Maria you're such a cool fight
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do i have to kill living failures bwfore i get to maria
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>>167299658
Not the other anon, but apparently Destiny had a rather troubled development. When that guy from /dg/ walked me through Crota, he told me about the game's background. It was originally supposed to be a fantasy RPG, got rejiggered into a shootbang sci-fi fantasy, but at some point the writer left for some reason, and took the story material with him, there was copyright problems and they basically had an unfinished world and story to work with, built a game around what they could use. The main story is terrible, but the expansions are more solid. Destiny could have been a really neat little setting, to be honest, shame what happened.
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>>167300045
Yes, clown.
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>>167299612
That's for physical 27% gems.

Heavy Abyysals require farming BLB, Cold's need Elder, Arcane gems need to go through all kinds of bullshit. BLT gems have comically low droprate, as do specialised gems like Beast/Kin hunter or poison. It can take weeks to get an optimal setup that isn't basic Temperings.
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>>167300045
Yep, afraid so.
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Just killed Maria second try, with minimal parrying. FUCK that was fun. A real duel. And I felt justified too. Avenging the monstrosity that was the Research Hall.

Too bad I accidentally killed Simon first though.
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>>167299830
Roms head is actually based off a pumice stone, weirdly enough. Amygdala's head also resembles a shell of some sort. Seems to be a running theme amongst the Great Ones.
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>>167299761
pls response to me
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>>167300045
>church pick

Just add beast pills and bolt paper for an ez win
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Where's a good spot for coop if I'm at BL60ish? I just used my PS+ trial to see how I like it.
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>>167300069
It's really a shame that they lost a huge amount of content, but at least they got as much out the door as they could. Isn't that the story with most games, it starts high and crashes down? Look at what happened to Watch Dogs, that sank like a brick
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>>167300102
You can savescum BLB and Elder pretty easily and you just need to kill bone ash mobs for arc gems, pretty easy shit.
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>>167300256
Ah, you're right it does look more like pumice. I'm taking geology at university and so many old earth rocks and moon rocks/asteroids remind me of bloodborne. Miyazaki probably had somewhat of an interest in the probable history of the earth and moon's creation, how they were both just flaming balls of some of the first elements/minerals. Skies would have been crazy colors with constantly occurring natural disasters, like a dream or a nightmare
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>>167299761
>>167300262
henlo??????????
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>>167300617
Yes.
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>>167300336
60? Early DLC, Nightmare Frontier, maybe forbidden woods, Cainhurst, Byrgenworth, and Yhar'Gul. Maybe more.
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>>167299761
>>167300262
>>167300617

No, BLT it's impossible to make an attack that normally doesn't do BLT damage scale off BLT. Even flat BLT boosts don't do anything on non-BLT attacks.
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>>167285874
>failures
I flatten them with my boom hammer every time. They are built for being jump attacked and charged-R2'd

wear the executioner garb with the enlarged head as your helmet. You take so much less damage because basically all their attacks are blunt or arcane
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>>167300716
Thanks! Not much luck at Ludwig, I think people must just be summoning based Valtr.

I'll give those other areas a shot.
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>>167300689
>>167300820
getting MIXED answers here
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What's the deal with that fish guy at the start of the hamlet muttering about Byrgenworth? He wasn't hostile so I let him be.
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>>167300336
people always need help with Logarius
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>>167300943
Maybe.
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>>167300960
He's a little angry about what happened at the Hamlet. Try again when you become a sentient cauliflower
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>>167301005
you better stop tricking me
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>>167300960
He's just someone to help explain just what the fuck happened there, or at least somewhat explain.
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>>167300102
I have a big cache of beasthunter / kinhunter gems I got from farming some chalice dungeon cramped caskets. They drop up to 26.8% with a secondary effect
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>>167300497
Honestly, the Great One's designs are just so excellent, even the Brain of Mensis, arguably the most pitiful one, has a good design to show it.
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r-reeee?
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what do you guys spend your insight on?

I used to only spend it on blood rocks but now I've got like 3 rocks and no chunks. But chunks are so overpriced
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>>167301541
Rite materials for FRC dungeons
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what is the "conviction" gesture meant to convey?
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>>167301802
Conviction
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>>167301878
so it basically just means the same thing as hunter's rally?
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the hunters axe has one of the best movesets in the game.

you look like a kung fu master with a halberd executing most of the tricked moveset. The spin 2 win looks epic too. I wish you could do that with the burial blade, like Gerhman does
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>>167283831
>>167283971
>>167284110
>>167284221
>>167284331
>>167284463
>>167284663
>>167286039
I'm late, but
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How badass would you say Simon was? I mean, his bow is one of the better weapons in the game.
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>>167302580
DIdn't even know who the fuck he really was, just found him in the church and in the research lab and then he got killed a little after in the Fishing Hamlet.
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>>167302580
>died like a bitch to brador's bell bitches
>while he had brador's cell key
>could have gone back to the underground corpse pile and killed him
>instead has to bequeath the task to you because muh feels
he was a pussy, because that's how he was written
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If anyone could help me with daughter of cosmos thatd be purty cool
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>>167302748
He probably thought he wouldn't even have to deal with Brador. And besides, Brador is a bitch himself by using the goddamn lead potion.
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ORPHAN OF KOS
Or some would say Orphan of Kosm
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>>167301192
But that's worse than much more generically useful gems.

Best is 32.6% from Watchers or 21% Phys/fire/bolt/arcane damage + 11% VS Beasts from Madmen.

It's like Borderlands, getting a legendary is easy, but getting a perfect roll takes extreme dedication.
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Just got to the Fishing Hamlet and those shark giants are fucking my shit up with their long windups. I ALWAYS wind up dodging early, fuck.
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So is the bowblade viable even with minimum blt?
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>>167303191
Lead them into a house and use the Pick or the Burial Blade to kill 'em. The ones you have to kill to get the Rakuyo are a little more complicated though.
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>>167303272
If you're going for the "blade" part, and not the "bow"
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>>167300943
Bloodtinge gems only affect Bloodtinge damage, which means only Reiter shots are affected. Physical gems is for everything including shots. You can't convert attacks into Bloodtinge.
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>Finally manage to get my Whirligig fully upgraded.
I feel goddamned unstoppable.
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>>167304404
It's so good, best weapon

Have fun man
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I'm digging the Amy Arm, no idea how it's gonna fare in PvP.

My only gemmed-out pvp character at the moment uses parasite, so this will be a nice change at least.
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>that back woods area behind the grand cathedral with all those snipers
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Only one question before I fuck off and play the game: can Insight be farmed/bought like humanity in DaS1?
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>can buff reiterpallasch
>can't buff rifle spear
what did they mean by this
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>>167306132
Not really. You get plenty, theoretically infinite from chalice dungeons/pvp though
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>>167304404

Just got it too, using it with fire games on arc/str build with HMLS as my second weapon. I'm still lacking on good games but the thing is fun as hell
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>>167301802
DS3 has a gesture thats pretty much exactly the same, except there, it's called "Quiet Resolve".

>>167306132
You can farm Insight by helping people beat bosses.
Succesfully kill hosts as an invader.
Or just plow through Chalice Bosses over and over.
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>>167306132
Not in the same manner, enemies will never drop the insight item, but you can farm the first chalice over and over for 6 insight every time, or you can create a dungeon with a guaranteed great one's wisdom and run straight for it.
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>>167306325
>>167306381
Thanks. That reminds me though - is there a state I have to be in to get invaded? And what do I need to be summoned into other people's worlds instead of calling people to mine?
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>>167283831
>not just cheesing him

You're not even missing out since it's a boring fight.
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>>167302863
I've been helping people coop him all day. The only thing he ever kills me with now is the scattered pink grenades if he throws them all in my face at once.

its such a nightmarish scenario; three people ganging up on this freakish, out of control monster that resembles a man. It looks like everyone is gang raping him one moment, then the next thing you know he kills the beckoner. Usually he catches the player as he tries to roll away from being knocked down with that long range yoyo attack. Every time I see him do that move on a hurt player I cringe; half expecting a death
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>>167283831

I literally had 2 blood vials left when I bumped into this guy and still beat him.
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>>167306457
There are no "states", you just gotta have a Bell Maiden spawn in your world. That means you'll have to ring your Beckoning or Sinister Bell (summon/invading bells). You can blank them out after a Maiden spawns so you don't call for help or invade. Beckoning Bell summon others, Small Resonant Bell gets you summoned if someone is ringing their Becky Bell nearby. There are passwords if you want to be summoned/summon someone specifically, they remove level restriction.
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>>167306457
Get the Small Resonant Bell from the Insight Shop.
Ring it wherever you think people will most likely be looking for help, around your characters Blood Level, wait, and the game will do its thing.

For someone to get invaded they need:
A Sinister Bell Maiden in their world.
>They only spawn if the Host is BL:30 or more.
>And they only spawn if the host has rung a Sinster Bell, themselves without having beaten the area boss themselves.
>Or the host having succesfully invited a co-operator.
>Keep in mind they can find and kill the maiden, if they're quick enough, which means that host can't get invaded until they get to the next area, or that multiplayer session ends by the host dying or losing connection.
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Could someone explain chalice dungeons to me?

I have no idea what they entail, I know you have to use that chalice you get from BSB but are there like recipes? Can I join other created ones?
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>>167306773
>>167307017
The small bell isn't showing up in the shop for me. I have one (1) Insight, and I have the beckoning bell and silencing blank.
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>>167307149
They're optional content that hold a lot of useful stuff in the game (best gems, runes, weapons, new enemies, 2 armor sets, etc). Non-root dungeons are the same for everyone, root dungeons can be randomized unless you used a glyph (code) you found online that someone created and shared. There's a guide in the OP you can follow to complete them.
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Started cooping at Logarious, it's pretty fun helping people beat him. I think he's one of the hardest bosses, but I'm bad at parries.
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>>167307264
DISREGARD THIS I SUCK COCKS
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>>167307264
Well. I haven't heard of this bug before. Or whatever it is.

It would either mean you've already got it in your inventory or you can try Leaving and re-entering Hunters Dream or try restarting your console.
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>>167307614
>>167307538
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>>167307404
Parrying as a co-operator is difficult, it's usually better to not bother doing it. Stuff like Silverbeasts is really easy since their parry window feels like it starts before their attack does.
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>>167307825
Oh, yeah, I never bother parrying unless I just want to fuck around and try to look flashy. Love stunning him out of his 2nd phase powerup and stunlocking for the host with the Gatling Gun afterward, it's just fun.
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I'm starting to really like the Laurence fight, though at first I thought he was a shitty boss. When you just go all in on him with heavy attack after heavy attack and you keep stunning and staggering him, and it all somehow matches up with the music.

Then to see the gestures of joy after you help someone beat him. Fighting Orphan I can help like 4 people before I have to go back and restock for blood vials because of the axe's rally. With Laurence I'll be lucky if I can kill him twice before I need to restock; every fight is such a struggle. And the music gets so great at the very end
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Would anyone be interested in a compendium of overlooked details? I won't try piecing it together or connecting things, it's just a thing I've been working on as I keep track of details while I play.
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What's that smell?
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>Dude, let me in! I'm a fairy! Don't you believe in fairies?
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>>167308635
I am autistic, probably like you, so yes.
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>>167308801
it's the blood, sir.
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>>167308623

>Can reach Laurence's 2nd form fairly consistently without about 5 vials used total
>Cant get past his second one

I"M SO MAD
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Finished my BL4 run. It was much easier than I anticipated but there were some tough parts. The toughest was the Shadows of Yharnam. That was unexpectedly difficult. I swear it took me 10+ tries to beat them.
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>>167309067
I wish I were autistic then I'd have an excuse for wasting so much time on this shit.
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>>167309785
YO
Dropped my bl4 there lol
Give me tips pls what gems did you use?
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>>167309826
I'm not actually literally autistic, I'm just like you. I spend a lot of time on seemingly inane shit, but I also care about it a lot.
So yes, please post the compendium when it is ready.
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>>167309785
Congrats, Maria and G man were the hardest for me ironically if you exclude CD bosses.
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What does Maria smell like
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>>167309858
>Give me tips pls what gems did you use?
I just used shitty main game gems on a beast cleaver that I upgraded as best as I can before any fight( ie +3 for Papa G,+6 for Amelia, +8 for Rom). I used fire paper and beast blood pellets for bosses. I only did the first 2 and a half chalice dungeons since it was a main game run.

Stay aggressive and don't get hit. Everything one shots you. Levels are harder than bosses.
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>>167310261
Like incense and menstrual blood.
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>>167310261
Like a disgusting fucking fish
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>>167310261
a dead body
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>>167310182
Ludwig, the Cheap, was a pain but it was expected. Maria was just parry spam+charged R2 chore. I didn't try OoK, Laurence, Upper Cathedral Ward bosses, and Nightmare Frontier so the run is incomplete in a way.

I don't know if someone has taken a BL4 character all the way to Queen Yharnam.
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>>167310504
I know some dude on YouTube fights FRC bosses on BL4 so pretty sure he's taken it to Queen Yharnam. Hell someone fought Ludders for 30 mins with a Torch on BL4, some people have ascended beyond Gud
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Could someone please briefly explain how the resonant and beckoning bells work from a lore perspective?
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>>167310810
I get sick thinking about defiled fire pupper at BL4.

I couldn't git gud enough to beat the Undead Giant with chains in Lower Pthumeru.
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>>167311029
Defiled Doggo isn't so bad, honestly the worst out of the 3 is Keeper since BL4 viscerals are the worst. Giant takes a good while, luckily Lumpy is just right around the corner to farm for decent gems. Savescumming BB Pellets and Papers helps a lot.
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>>167311192
Defiled hotdog is the boss I am so bad at. I have never beaten him with a character that wasn't already BL70+.
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Does Laurence deal exclusively fire damage or are his attacks split fire and physical damage?
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>>167311789
Most likely split, but it's better to armor up for fire.
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>>167311678
You just gotta bait head swipes and slap it's face. The charge is easy to dodge once you've got the timing down. It's long for BL4 but it's pretty safe. You can jump cheese Amy but if you fuck up once it's done.
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back to page 1 with you
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>4am
>stayed up way too late
>mindlessly farming some fucking gem
>thinking about passing out soon
>watching old internetaristocrat mirrors (fuck you jim for deleting them all)
>suddenly this fucking this is staring at me from the screen
>I am literally paralyzed with shock and fear, not even caring that my hunter is swiftly executed by some spiders
>sit entranced for the duration of the clip
>when it's over, I pause the video, quit out of bloodborne, turn my ps4 off, and try to think how long it will take me to selectively remove this image and sound from my memory
https://youtu.be/_odWmfRdZxE?t=20m45s
jesus fucking christ
open it by copying the link instead of with the embedded feature, it won't start at 20 minutes and 45 seconds otherwise
how am I going to sleep
thanks for reading this retarded blog
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should we combine niohg and bbg together?
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>>167310849
I'm speculating and conjecturing based on what I've seen in the game and what I've heard about Lovecraft's works from other people, most of them being you guys.
You would need a basic understanding of Lovecraft's influence on the game. Every player including yourself are in their own dream-reality (world) throughout the game, either traversing your own or others', including the dreams of in-game characters (The blood minister tells you "Whatever happens... You may think it all a mere bad dream..."). The mechanic to bridge and cross worlds also makes sense because the dreams, though they are separate from the physical world in many ways, are able to exist because of inhuman power/knowledge. The inhuman knowledge, or Great Ones' knowledge is represented by the insight counter. Insight is needed to cross because of their direct affiliation with the Great Ones' power.
The real interesting part is what the bells have to do with this. I don't know about bells in Lovecraft's works but I understand that, inherently, the language the Great Ones use can't be understood yet can be picked up by humans or other lesser beings. The bells are a medium to connect your world and another's (think bridge posts on either side of a ravine) via resonating in utilizing the insight you possess depending partly on the bells and partly the player's and npcs' intent. Intent meaning whatever oath rune you've memorized or whether or not you're blood-addled (basically sin from Dark Souls if you want a comparison).
Who made the bells? I don't know but their abilities and use of insight makes them connected with the Great Ones. I'm going to stop here. I was going to say more but needed to do something and forgot as a result. I hope this was an interesting read, if not spergy. Read the bells' item descriptions.
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>>167313470
Nah, it's not a From game and we already tried that with DS3. It'll be it's own thing most likely.
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>>167313470
No, it would be too active and drown out any BB discussion. Maybe one day in the far future when it's as old as BB is now.

But we should get custody of DeS discussion though. It's wasted on dsg because it's so heavily PC biased in terms of playerbase. DeS gets forgotten.
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>beat maria 2nd time without using guns
W-was i memed
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Has anyone ever come across doors in an FRC that don't stay open when you reload the dungeon? I found one where the door to the lever room keeps closing.
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I got a question about Blood Rocks, does the last boss of any dungeon always have a chance to drop them?

I finished building a new character (Strength/Arcane) and the non-root Ebrietas and Pthumerian Queen both dropped one.

Did I just get really lucky getting these and can you farm bosses for them or is it limited to one per chalice dungeon like finding them in root treasure chests?
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>>167314050
Yes, always.
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>>167314050
Depth 5 layer 3-4 bosses have a chance to drop Rocks, so you can farm them. ptwrx6tb is a great Isz glyph for Chunks and Rocks. Bosses are Brainsucker, Watchers, and Ayymissary. They're not limited, only the ones from chests.
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>>167313974
Never, post a webm of it
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>>167313913
Maria is easy to parry to death if you're good at parrying and not much harder without parries anyway. She's an honest and not very difficult boss overall.

What did you expect?
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>>167293242
>Is this the only game you guys use your ps4 for?

I use it a lot for Bloodborne but I bought Resi 7 the other day and Yakuza 0 so I have been playing them a lot.

I also intend to pick up Nioh.
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>finally get the rakuyo
It felt like cumming after 10 years of nofap
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>>167314453
I guess this isn't common then.
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>>167316214
god fucking damn it what the fuck
hold on I can fix this probably
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>>167289363
>savescumming HBLB
>get +36 with attack down
>try again
>get +50 with attack down
>try again
>get +65 with attack down
This game is mocking me
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>>167316315
It may be programmed to respond to savescumming by depriving you of the things you want in small ways from time to time for all we know. I'm glad it doesn't just put you into a prison server cluster for savescumming.
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>>167314453
>>167316292
Alright, here it really is. Is this a bug?
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Which strength weapon (or strength leaning quality) is good against ayyys, having many thrust attacks. I tried using the tricked stake drivers R1s against an ayyy but it did almost no damage.
Also does the sword form of the kike hammer have the same scaling or is it something like the threaded cane which has better scaling on the whip form?
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>>167318112
Cane is the only weapon that has that, sword on Kirk is the same as hammer. Stake "Thrusts" don't do Thrust damage, only normal Phys (and Blunt for the tricked charge r2). The only Thrust attacks it has are jumping attacks. A 50/25 Str/Skl Church Pick with a Heavy is good for Ayys, most Strength weapons just do Phys and/or Blunt damage.
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>>167317665
That's definitely a bug, never had that happen. Pretty cool, even the lantern next to the door is lit green which means the game knows you've gone through it before.
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bloodborne more like deadborne
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>>167319502
>274 / 44 / 50
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>>167293637
>>167293637
>>167293637

pls reply
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>>167320463
What kind of question is that?

Yes anon you miserably, irreparably fucked up by being level 84.

Better delete the character and do it all again, but without being a level over 37.
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>>167319845
Wow just noticed that, even Let It Die which is pretty fugging dead has 86 people posting in their thread.
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>>167320635

Is this sarcasm? I am a very literal person
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>>167308896
>It is all thanks to long weapon.
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>>167321286
Nope totally serious. Better delete the character and do everything you did, all over again, at an arbitrarily lower level, even though this current character is still under meta, and level by itself, especially when it's below meta, doesn't tell us anything about the build or mean diddly shit.
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I've taken to bringing myself to low HP with the Bloodletter then finishing myself off in front of the host with Madaras' Whistle and gauging their reaction as I pass from their world.
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>>167306319
It's because the buff also applies to bullets, and the rifle spear fires something like twenty of them at once.
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>>167322330
Unrelated, but did anyone ever get one of those dungeons where you have nine brainsuckers and three wolves in the same room guarding a chest?
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>>167322417
And then the treasure in the chest is worth jack shit, even though you died twelve times trying to get it.

Also, there were twelve spiders in that picture. Don't ask.
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>>167322496
And after a whole dungeon of steadily mounting bullshit, you finally kill the boss and get this.

Thanks for letting me vent.
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Can i get help against the descendant in the lhyll chalice? I almost always have him dead to rights but I fuck it up almost like there's input lag sometimes. Maybe I just panic. Anyway the pass is bbg2.
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>bbg will die in your lifetime
why even live
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Going to do a skl build because its the one i never tried before, is the cane good enough to last the whole game?

I never touched it before and wanted to give it a chance.
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>>167323035
Yes, it's actually a late bloomer, better at the end than at the start. And also after you get used to it.
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>>167323035
Ive had the cane as my secondary the whole game, tricked mode is the shit
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Time for a new build, as if I could decide what to do on my own. 25/50 str/skill versus a second bloodtinge build seeing as I fucked my first one up so badly. Or maybe 50/25 skill/tinge.
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>>167323070
Not him, but could I survive using the Saw Spear and Threaded Cane?
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>>167323359
Don't do 50/25 or 25/50 Skilltinge, it's only good at 50/50. 25/50 Str/Skl is much better for most Skill weapons. 10 Blt opens up Reiter, Bowblade and Rifle Spear.
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>>167323376
Yes, both are great weapons, in particular against beasts. And probably match well as well, a fast serrated weapon and a long range serrated weapon for mobs and hitting weak spots of large bosses.
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>>167323376
Of course, Saws tear through everything and are more than enough to carry you through the whole game. You might end up using the Spear more than the Cane though.
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>>167323610
>>167323640
I figured as much, thanks
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I accidentally attacked that npc near the first shortcut in hunters nightmare and now he aggroes as soon as he sees me, am I fucked?
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>>167323790
Just kill him. You'll only miss on his dialogue. I think.
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>>167323790
Fucked out of dialogue yes. You won't miss anything else past that.
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>>167323852
What if you aggro Simon and say no to ludwig? Do you lose the HMLS?
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>>167323929
The sword is the drop from his head, regardless of the dialogue. Just hit it with your weapon.
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>>167323929
No, Ludder either has to die or go to sleep to drop the sword.
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>>167322951
in about 4 days, actually.
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>>167293305
There should be a staircase leading to a ladder. Look around.
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>>167324554
Nioh will be a fun romp but it will never replace BB for me, and I assume it will be the same for most others in this thread.
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so Nioh is supposedly okay
are you buying it?
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>>167324936
It's not as inspired as Bloodborne and lacks polish but it will be fun.
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I've just started playing.
Is it normal to be near enough at 20 blood vials? I've only played for around an hour.
But it seems like the game is a lot easier in terms of "here, have lots of health to recover with" but harder in that the mechanics don't work too well for me with groups of enemies.

Also, is shooting most enemies to riposte them a viable tactic if I keep using blood for bullets or is tht only in an emergency?
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>>167304404
>whirligig
Bloodletter master race.
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>>167324936
it plays like shit in my opinion or maybe bb really just set the bar too high for me
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>>167325151
weird way to spell Beast Claw, m8
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>>167324936
I'm buying it
However the replay value doesn't seem to be there for me
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>>167325151
>kill simon early
>no bloodletter key
>key just randomly spawns in the lighthouse

anti-fun
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>>167325013
>shooting most enemies to riposte them a viable tactic
just make sure you have enough vials to heal yourself
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>>167325013
>mechanics don't work too well for me with groups of enemies
There are many weapons with good mob control, including the threaded cane. Though nothing will work well with a horde of red spiders and mad ones if they surround you (except maybe a well timed beast roar).

>Also, is shooting most enemies to riposte them a viable tactic if I keep using blood for bullets or is tht only in an emergency?
You'll have tons of bullets, will find them as drops even without going back to hunter's dream and you can use blood bullets as long as you have life and vials. And there is even runes that return 1-3 bullets every visceral.
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>>167304404
just did the same
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>>167324936
yes
combat is amazingly fun and has a skill cap far beyond anything souls offers

level design is pretty uninspired though imo
both aesthetically and gameplay wise.
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Also how did I manage to only get my weapons dirty?
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>>167325649
You changed or re-equiped your clothes, your face looks bloodied.
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>>167325759
that's the hilt I think and I don't remember having a reason to change my equipment in the forest
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it's the scourge of messages
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Anybody need co-op?
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>>167324936
Demo didn't hook me in. I will buy it when it's cheaper but not on release.
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>>167324936
Nah. Doesn't have the polish of Bloodborne, combat or art style-wise, you'll probably only ever use one stance for each weapon type once it's tested to hell and back, and the amount of management plus MMO loot system is offputting for a Souls knock off. I had enough fun juggling pointless stats in DaS2.
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>>167324936
>No CC
>MC is a shitty not-Geralt
>Combat is DMC-superlite meets Witcher 3
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>>167324936
I'm waiting for either expansion or price drop announcement.
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>>167328181
The MC is based off a real historical figure but holy shit he really goes look like Geralt.
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>>167327426
could use some in FRC Ihyll farming HBLB
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>>167328224
They've "announced" at least two with the season pass.
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>>167328681

Are heavy abyssals good on a str/arc build?
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>>167324936
Probably, but I am not pre-ordering it. DaS2 ruined pre-orders for me. Once bitten twice shy and all that.

>>167327745
I disagree. Even the Alpha was pretty polished, and I think it has better combat to be honest.
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I used to think you were okay but now I'm gonna filter you Lucifag, for that comment about Nioh
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>>167328989
it objectively has better combat than >swing/ dodge/ repeat
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>>167328989
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>>167328779
It's KT, they will drop some Extreme edition later this year.
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>>167329098
Somehow it doesn't, it's more complex but it is clunky and doesn't look fluid. Shit animations.
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>>167329098
So DMC and Bayonetta are even better then?
More combos = better combat
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>>167329298
KT?
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>>167329410
A souls-like game with DMC4 combat styles would be the coolest shit ever.
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>>167329098
>muh stances
>implying anyone will use anything more than one stance for any weapon
>muh ki blast
>yay more management to take away from the action and fluidity of gameplay
>muh skill tree upgrades
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Dealing with groups is the first thing the game forces you to deal with. Either start tossing pebbles and luring them to you one at a time, or aggro several and retreat to get them with your tricked weapon.

Cain just swings wide as a whip, its easy.
Sawcleaver trick, then tap R2 I believe. R1 is a constant verticle attack, tap R2 gives you a wide swing.
Axe is the best, transform and either press L2 for big wide swings, or hold down R2 for spin2win.
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>>167329480
Koei Tecmo. Look at their library. Almost everything had an expansion with twice the content within a year or so. I'm not falling for their vanilla releases ever again. It will be funny as fuck considering how Nioh was in developement for a decade... yet they already releasing DLC.
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>cold abyssal
>+10.1 Arc scaling
Does curse make that much of a difference, or was that just an unlucky roll?
My only other cold abyssal is +65.
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Where are the best places to farm materials for FRC chalices? I want to conduct my own
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>>167329536
>>muh ki blast
>>yay more management to take away from the action and fluidity of gameplay

Are you mentally ill?

It is no different than managing stamina in the soulsborne games, except you can active-reload it to speed it up, rather than being forced to wait.

>>167329608
That's why I always paired LHB or the Whirly with the Axe.
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>>167329821
Regular chalices.
Or buy them with insight from the messengers. On NG+ they have every single material for sale. They're expensive though.
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>>167329536
>yay more management to take away from the action and fluidity of gameplay
it literally makes it MORE fluid, moron
you can keep up attacks for much longer if you stance dance, as opposed to just waiting for stam to regen

>>167329536
>implying anyone will use anything more than one stance for any weapon
this is like saying BB's weapon variety doesn't matter because who would use more than one
you're a retard
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>finally kill the bitch queen
Now where is a good place to farm shit for arc?
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>>167330332
You're gonna need Cold Abyssals... lots of them, and either Watcher elemental Triangles or some other elemental Abyssals. Check the OP.
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>summon
>they're using a different room
>have to kill them
I hate this game sometimes.
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>10 non abyssal gems from HBLB in a row
are they that rare and I just got lucky on my first 3 attempts? Or is my save scum fucked up because it's only giving me Cursed Heavy Damp gems?
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>>167330598
>room
What the fuck am I typing? I meant rune.
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>>167330059
I just had to spend 43 insight
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>>167330640
Are you the guy with the beast claws that I just helped through SRRC? It's always nice getting summoned to something that is not rom or defiled chalice for a change.
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>>167330801
yep
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>>167330598
I like the opposing Rune system for set-up duels.

Plus, at least one of you is a Vileblood faggot and deserved the inconvenience.
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>>167330923
And that's where you're wrong. I'm HoH and he was an Executioner.
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>>167331124
HoH just kills the shit out of everyone. There's allegedly a rhyme and reason but I don't think anyone's actually figured out what flags someone as Blood-Addled.

It is a bummer having to give up the stam regen for co-op though, I admit.
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>>167331265
I've got like 10 million echoes on each of my toons, I bet they'd be flagged as addled
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>>167331523
>toons
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>>167331124
HoH have a chance of summoning in as an invader.
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>have too much frenzy res
>iframes wear off before frenzy procs
>die to the lantern
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>>167331812
The whole interrupt-the-grab-and-let-frenzy-proc-while-you're-mid-visceral strat really works, even for a scrub like me.
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>>167331812
pizza stunlocks them 100-0, just pop 2 vials after you get frenzied
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>>167331523
>toons
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Why do Bloodtinge users have so many ways to kill themselves?
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Anyone have that magazine scan/translation where Miyazaki goes in-depth about Bloodborne's thematic meaning? About the blood meaning birth or menstruation or something like that.
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>>167333058
Because Miyazaki knew they were all faggots
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I'm all burned out with the souls games. Should I buy this?
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>>167333058
>Edgy fags also have suicidal tendencies and like to cut themselves.

Where's the issue?
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>>167333718
It has some fundamental differences to the Souls games. Combat is faster, aggression is encouraged due to your speed and health regain ability, no shields save for a joke one and one that mitigates magic damage, can't block otherwise, weapon variety is deceptively large yet all weapons are equally viable (some take more work to use than others, but that's like three or four specialty weapons), completely different tone, setting and aesthetic to the Souls games, retains some familiar aspects of the Souls games but is most reminiscent of Demon's.

If you have a PS4, there's no reason not to get it, it's an absolutely fantastic game. The DLC is god tier and adds so much to the game, to the extent I'd say it's necessary for full enjoyment.
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>>167334067
The shields can actually bounce back attacks from smaller weapons, such as BoM spammers.
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>>167333143
Explains why the Executioners can do it too.
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Why doesn't Analise just take the helmet off? Its not like Logarius can keep it on her at this point.
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>>167334665
>why does she wear the mask

Chances are its affixed to her head. I wish you could pick it up and wear it after Alfred pulps her.
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>>167334665
bonus bullshit points for mask after you revive her.
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Alright, ladies, I farmed just enough materials for another new FRC to explore? Anyone one want to participate? Any requests? Ihyll, Loran, Isz?
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>>167335353
Maybe she actually likes it at this point. Keeps her face warm.
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>>167336314
Sure. And any is fine for me, except maybe isz since my main weapon has kin down gems, but I have a reserve weapon for those.
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>>167336729
One Isz coming up.
glyph: fzqgg4z6
pass: bbgfrc
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>>167337019
I don't think I'm connecting. Probably something on my side though, since I wasn't getting randoms on SRRC either.

Already unlocked first layer boss while ringing. Very easy first layer.
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>>167337802
The bell works by proximity too, right? Maybe try staying put at the lamp.
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>>167337918
I'm ringing there again then.
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>>167338162
I can actually see your phantom and a bloodstain.
You're using some thin weapon, like Rieterpalash or Rakuyo?
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Formless Great One of /bbg/ aid me in my time of need.

Anybody who wants to help me out with Ludwig, ringing at the fog, password is bbg. I'm sure Hibiki is already ringing as I post this.
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>>167321224
Let It Die came out like two months ago.
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>>167338273
Rakuyo. The bloodstain is because I killed myself against cainhurst hunter to replenish vials and bullets after beating the merciless watchers.

It was weird how I wasn't connecting to anyone on SRRC this time, even though I had no problem a couple hours ago.
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Just finished my second (non-run-as-fast-as-sonic-and-summon) run with no summons and just realised this game actually has some fucking lore to it, but I have a small problem

Now I guess the Nightmares are separate from the real world unless this is some inception tier 'the world isnt as it seems shit'. If it is ignore me and the rest of the post.
Eg Micolash is dead and alive, the Doll is fake and alive (Holy shit I didnt know about Old Yharnam first time around)

So what is the deal with the Silverbeasts? No other creature in the Nightmares live in the normal world, bar the little shardfuckers who run from you, but they are clearly out of place and dissapear to the Nightmare if you dont kill them ASAP.

Silverbeasts however seem to be a legit real world thing. There is a few in the chalices (Fuck BallnChain Undead Giant with a pole-raw) and have something to do with the twofanged wormsnakes like the headless bloodgiving beast. So what is their shit? How are they any different to the normal beasts and how did they escape the nightmare if all the hunters in the hunters nightmare combined couldnt do shit? And we are (presumably) talking about other fucking dimensions so they didnt just walk off the edge of the Nightmare islandsand go 'fucking whoops, looks like I'm here now'

Ideas for a insight starved anon?
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What the fuck are Pungent Blood Cockails for? I thought they were Alluring Skulls but fucking nothing is attracted to them. In like 200 hours i've not once found a use for them.
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>>167338275
>Implying he wasn't ringing as you brought up the post form
You lack insight Anon
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>>167338415
Maybe if everything else fail, I could try going through this dungeon as a phantom when you host.
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>>167338908
I tried restarting everything, maybe it will work now.
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>kill micolash EZ
>now am dying constantly to fucking Winter Lanterns

I'm saving my fucking Insight for a rock, god dammit, I'm not spending it all for some shitty eye fuckers.
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>>167338567
Nightmares are fascntng.
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>>167338942
Hm, when I fire a blank, it waits a good minute before refunding me an insight. And I can't rest at the lamps. There's definitely SOMETHING happening, but it doesn't seem to connect properly.
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Reminder if you think the Moon Presence is Paleblood because of one note that means you're a Redditor. The note specifically says that the moon presence is nameless, "paleblood" is a separate sentence in the note entirely. Connecting the two is understandable, but acting as if that's a fact which settles the matter is nigh-retarded.
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>>167339324
Tried both SRRC and directly now, but it seems it's not meant to be this time.
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>>167339503
Oh well, I'll keep ringing as I go, just in case.
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>>167338638
Big beasts love them. It works better than a skull on the BSB, transformed Gascoigne, DBP, BLB and HBLB or any other (very) beastly bosses, as they will stop attacking you to pursue the vial. Basically needed for NG++ or BL4 runs
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>>167338638
Beast Catnip
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There are two cainhurst hunters on one level in my FRC. Again. That's the third time that happens.
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>>167339406
>Believing a Reddit note
Well thats why we are on /bbg/ an not that fucking third world country. I, along with all these other fine posters much prefer this 4th world country to that Africa-wannabe
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>>167339761
>>167339865
Thanks.
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>>167340227
This is a 1st world Rhodesian kite-knitting forum though.
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What's the best point of no return if I want to still do the DLC? Before talking to Gehrman?
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>>167341019
killing gehrman puts you into ng+ so you have to do it before that

might as well wait till endgame though because the bosses are much more difficulty than maingame ones
oddly enough though, they give fuckall souls
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>>167301802
>>167302134
it means "much respect, my beast eating brother"
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>>167341245
I do it as a sort of 'Let's Do This' gesture

I think it looks amazin' with the raifu spear

Also Make Contact with tricked Beast Claws is hilarious looking
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>can't even get ludwig to phase 2

All of his attacks look the same reeeEEEEEEEEEE

Trying to do this at level 45 was a mistake.
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>>167340014
I fucking hate them. They are like respawning clones of the crow of cainhurst.

Now that I have amassed 18 million blood echoes and I have nothing to spend them on, I can't bear the thought of losing that number. And some of the only enemies dangerous enough to make me savescum for ot in FRCs are fucking cainhurst knights and bone ash hunters. Bone ash hunters are more lethal in short bursts, but easier to kill. But fucking cainhurst hunters have like 8800 HP and multiple vials. An overleveled double HMLS backstab (R2 with followup) + visceral with clawmark 3 and 50 skill only takes away like half of their health; it's ridiculous
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>>167341749
so fucking ez

just grab mensies gems and the 2 hp runes if you suck
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>>167341721
>I do it as a sort of 'Let's Do This' gesture

I just do hunter's rally for that, so there's no confusion. I also use hunter's rally to hint to a beckoner that I'm confident we've got this, and we don't need to wait for a third cooperator.

A lot of people don't seem to get what conviction is supposed to convey. It looks kinda like "psssh, nothin personal kid" if you just do it out of nowhere, but after a hard earned victory it definitely feels like it means "much respect"
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>>167340443
>4chan
-2nd world tibetan wasp harvesting imageboard and forum
-A cartoon frog and a buiness mogul are considered superme deities, some believe that rolling good numbers prove honesty, truthfullness and good luck
-The evil deities are a corporate shill and the literal embodiment of the devil, Moloch
>/bbg/:
-Cozy log cabin where many anons sit in rocking chairs and consider the insights the world has to offer. We chuckle to ourselves as we sometimes look out of the window to see the /dsg/ burning; and far off in the horizon a tumor upon the landscape that is Reddit
-Our psudeodeity is a chill dude who appears before we even ask, with a cup of hot choc as he slays our troubles away.
-We just lock him out and ignore the banging at the door, before he goes back to the burning /dsg/ to warm up, then comes back again.

In all seriousness, I might commision some Hibiki fanart for /bbg/ use. Was thinking Hibiki as Solaire saying 'Praise the Moon' or some shit
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>>167341943
>BL45
Turn on your tripcode faggot
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>>167341749
>All of his attacks look the same
You'll learn them eventually.
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>>167342248
I though it was more of a 'Fair enough' gesture or a 'Look at my cool killy thing' when helping young noobs in Central Yharnam (I do it for Yharnam community service after I got caught in Old Yharnam by Old Man Djura)
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>>167342456
yeah, what's the issue?
you're like 15 levels lower than what everyone else starts the dlc and you're acting like it's a base lv run
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>>167342319
Yeah /dsg/ should be on the horizon with Reddit for cancer tier. Kinda feel sorry for the Demon Souls fags, they are kinda trapped there.
Make it 'Praise the Blood Moon' instead

Also did someone get rid of the Patch 1.09 thing in the OP?
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>>167342709
He is probs doing an Arc run dude. Kos Para, HMS, Blacksky and IronBru are all in the DLC. Maybe even a BLT run with Bloodletter or Bowblade.
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confirmed: game runs better on ps4 pro in boost mode. It's quite noticeable actually
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Does the Reiterpallasch bullets get elemental damage when paper or gems are applied to it?
If so, I feel a BLT/ARC run coming on...
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>>167343251
what
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>>167343419
Paper yes, gems no.
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>>167343419
It does with papers/shell, not with gems.
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>>167343251
How much? To be honest it maintained a decent framerate on PSnormal, but enemy attack animations went to like 3 frames to make up for it.
We talking 60fps or something?
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God fuck those dogs. Holy fucking shit they're SO annoying. I wanna beat the shit out of the scrawny jap retard who designed those.
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>>167343502
new software update 4.5 adds "boost mode" on ps4 pro where you can get better performance in games even without a pro patch

>>167343554
no the framerate is still locked at 30, but no drops and it feels more even. all those minor drops are gone.
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>>167343224
i did a bt run and a +6 chikage made short work of ludwig with only 25bt

not sure how arc would fair, but fire saw works pretty well for beasts i've heard
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>>167343527
>>167343546
Thanks dudes. So what do I call my meme tier BLT/ARC character? Should I invest more BLT or do bullets get a full ARC shift?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deb-EaLTgzA

ps4 pro boost vs normal

first is boost, second is normal

look at when the witches spawn for example.

the difference is very very noticeable.
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>>167343729
>Arc run
>Any investment on Str
This general is for 99 Arc memewizards only, take your Str/Arc bullshit to Reddit
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>>167343921
fire saw spear can be used at base str, nimrod
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>>167343782
You can't convert the reiter. Bullets will always do blood damage and scale solely with bloodtinge, except +80 whatever you buffed the weapon with and gems physical/blt up.

BLT/ARC is a mostly pointless build since tools and guns both consume bullets and therefore clash with each other, and blt has only non convertible weapons.
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>>167338275
Do you still need help, anon?
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>>167343546
Do Reiter bullets get affected by Flat ARC gems? With 3 of those and EPS that would be ~290 Arcane damage on every bullet, combined with the 150 + whatever Blood damage.
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>Well, well, look who's here.
Why does he talk like he knows me?
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>>167344496
I don't think so, but I can test it for you.
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is there even a lot of pvping in this game
what's le ebin sl meta
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>>167344735
That "niggers" always gets me
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>>167344887
150
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>>167344887
Plenty of PvP to be had

Normalfag meta is about 100-120
The most ebin of ebin /bbg/ meta is 98
150 if you're a reddit shitter
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>>167341019
Best place to do the DLC is before you kill Micolash, otherwise you miss content.
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>>167345365
what specifically?
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What's the standard "cap" level you shouldn't pass in order to match up for PvP/Co-Op, it was 125 in DaS, not sure about BB.
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>>167345365
Wat?
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>>167345409
>>167345489
Dialogue from doll.
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>>167345418
80-120, 98-117 here
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>>167344496
Ok, on a normal enemy with 10blt and 3x ~22.3% (150+155) it gave 207 dmg, 266 with fire paper.
Using phys+flat (150+49+208 arcane) it gave 329 (and since it became split damage it's not buffable anymore)

Also with higher BLT, phys% gems will get better bonus in comparison.
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>>167345585
What does it have to do with Micolash though? You get extra dialogue after you kill Maria anyway, don't you?
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>>167345593
Why the small difference?
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>>167345689
It overrides.
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>>167345789
They're afraid 120+ meanies will get them.
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>>167345789
Memes and autism. Don't think too much about it, 80-120 is fine and the range for our FCs.
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Just finished my first SRC that I made myself, got quite a bit of random coop as well. Surprisingly found a large amount of ritual materials like Sage's Hair and Yellow Backbone to set me up for next time.
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I just fucking love the singing of the Winter Lanterns.
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need Insight
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>>167346743
Same, pure aesthetic.
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Do you guys still even do fc or is it too ded?
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>>167349225
Still do FCs
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>>167344887
98
>Mergos loft to practice on the lowest tier players. BLWheverthefuckwhocaresmate
>Reddit FC to practicle on telwest tier players with barely viable builds. BL150
>Invasions for some real practice because 2-3 shit tier players amount to 1 /bbg/er. BL Whateverthefuckwhocaresmate*3
>/bbg/ FC is a wonderful place where both truly serious meme builds and the most competitive Korean builds survive alike. BL98 only
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>>167349329
Who is the Champion?
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>tfw dont know whether to low level coop or complete my build
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>>167349742
These guys are
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>>167349443
You can also be 117 for the /bbg/ FC, don't forget that.
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>>167345804
98 is the meta. Anything over is cancer and you should feel bad for wasting you time on a build like that. We only say 98-117 because 117 js the highest you can go and still be non-password summoned for FC. If you are a 117, you ain't much better than Reddit as conventially strong builds such as Str/Arc or Skl/Blt have no thought to them, and no downsides. Would you pump more Arc to get better beams from LHB or pump Str to get better swings? These choices give variety and don't stagnate the meta after 2 mins, requiring some thought and pre-planning.
98 gives a good cap where conventially weaker builds are complete and conventially strong builds are balanced by either less of the damage stats or less Vit.
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>>167346702
K dude.
Now repeat until you either find Guidance 3 before Plebbit, or the heat death of the universe
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Anybody feel like helping a shitter get past Ludwig and on to the good parts of the DLC? I'll be ringing at the fog for a few minutes. Password is bbg.
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>>167350164
But I can't afford all these special ritual materials on a consistent basis
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>>167350243
Sure, dude
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>>167349907
See >>167349975 you fucking cancer to /bbg/
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>>167350325

Thanks nigga. You too Hibiki, even if you were late.
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>>167350261
>They say one anon has decoted his life to finding the fabled Guidance 3 rune
>He helps other faggots through bosses, not because he cares, but because he needs more insight
>He toils day after day to become more insightful, so he can explore another dungeon
>Some think he has reached such high level of insight, he himself has become a great one, able to see key words, vital to co-operation before they are even posted
>Sources suggest he hasn't left his bunker in the Antarctic for the last year since the Bloodborne: Old Hunters DLC release.
>He has probably helped you
>In fact he is probably helping some fag with Ludwig right now
>His name?
Hibiki, the formless faggot
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>>167350787
Cheers
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>>167350847
*devoted
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>Spent 5 hours on a new character in DaS3
>Certain this was gonna be the one to get me back into the game, buy the season pass, play the DLC, take to 120
>Get to Farron Keep
>Can't bear the idea of playing anymore

The Nightmare swirls and churns unending...
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>>167350847
Might explain how quickly he cucks me every goddamn time.
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Does anyone want to run through pthumeru ihyll and then Lower Loran with me? The dungeons are killing me with boredom.
Pass: bbg
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>>167349975
Restricting 98 kinda kills variety honestly, you're always stuck with the same 50 or 50/25/minimum rest/max vit possible meta builds with low possible individualization. And the variation is basically being stuck with half weapons. Bowblade has interesting combined moveset but people build exclusively for the bow killing the fun and using it as a boring boss cheesing device. HMLS has basically no compromise though, 25/12/50 with top tier nourishing gems will do everything decently well.

Not that I bother much with the pvp meta level though, but I like 120, it basically allows building to fully use any weapon in the game without being a jack of all trades master of all.
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Glorious Vilebloods 17 - Church Wieners 0

Good night so far.
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bout fuckin tired of seeing these maria impersonators
you'll never be as beautiful or as strong as my waifu faggots
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>>167352127
Vilebloods did nothing wrong.

They are most likely just degenerates
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>>167352269
>They are most likely just degenerates
Killing your own kind is pretty degenerate too.
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>>167352187
>Implying she's strong
>Having a corpse for a waifu
Captcha: Dead Playground.
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>>167351151
What's bad? I'm thinking of getting DS3 when second DLC arrives.
I wont dare ask /dsg/ because any /vg/er knows that Somalia would have better information about the game than that shithole.

Getting NiOh anyways. I'm drawn to difficulty in games, NiOh seems like the good old Ninja Gaiden tier slighlty-bullshit-slightly-luck-but-skill-plays-a-good-enough-factor kinda game

PS games list
>Bloodborne
>Meatboy (\/)
>Isaac (I prefer both with a controller)
>Furi (Got it a month before it was PS+ REEEEEEEEEEE )
>Overwatch (mates play it so...)

And I have a Megaman 1-9 emulator on my phone
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Breaking news! There's a Bloodborne movie in development and /bbg/ is in charge of casting. Who plays who?

I'll start with Melanie Laurent as the Doll/lady Maria.
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>>167352474
she is the strongest and the prettiest zombie you cannot deny
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>>167352423
Vilebloods are faithful to their Queen. If you don't swear an oath to serve the Queen, you are no friend of the Vilebloods.

>not corrupting yourself with the tainted, rotting blood of Annalise
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>>167351793
>Having maxed out builds with no variation
Compared to
>Having builds which are most likely maxed out in one stat, but the wildcard still stands that it could be that other build that fewer people run

I fail to see your logic. 97 was agreed upon for a reason, any disagreement just means you need an artificial 19BL boost to play at the same tier as others.
Would it be fair if I made a 126BL build and catch all you 117 cunts in the act? If I can be bothered, I'm just gonna post all your cheap-ass names at the start of every FC so we know who needs their training wheels still.

Simone and Pumba's Bowblade has S-Skl scaling, so it is still viable to roll without the bow. In fact I often play 4th dimensional chess and start tricked, only to do a dash-untrick and go ham on them

>Basically, fuck off with your barely-better-than-Reddit tier bullshit
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>>167353348
Actually you can go to 148 and still be invaded by 98's. If you truly want to be a shitter in FC's it's not hard to do. Going to 149 would be the only way to see exactly how many bbg players are above 98.
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Is it possible to kill Arianna's freaky mutant baby without killing her?

I was sure I avoided hitting her but she died anyway :(
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>>167351151
Fucking buck up you pussy

what's wrong, can't handle a little poison swamp?
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>>167353348
Basically, you're saying you can have either half of the moveset for the bowblade, and somehow bullshit using the weapon as the developers intended you to. Like limiting to the chikage L1-R1-L1, or L1-R2-L1 because the weapon is pointless untricked, and same with the bloodletter. It's no surprising why blt builds are the most boring though, stuck with inconvenient half weapons.

>Would it be fair if I made a 126BL build and catch all you 117 cunts in the act?
What difference would it even make? .06% extra physical defense and barely no extra damage since at 120 even hybrid weapons should be at least close if not already in the second softcap? More fair than using autistic gems that require savescuming a hundred layer 3 bosses.
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>>167354080
I can't handle a little shit game.
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>>167354169
>What difference would it even make?
I don't care enough to get fully involved in the debate, but if you can't see the benefit of 19 levels or why it's a huge advantage, that's just your weakness as a player.
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>>167351793
Nope.

Bow blade's one handed mode is trash, and this build lets you use the Bloodletter one handed.

Higher levels kill variety because they let you have your cake and eat it too.
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Does anyone want to spelunk in Isz? I have conducted an FRC. Password is Kosm

Will begin ringing in about 5 minutes
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>>167354825
I'll join m8
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>>167354825
Will join gib sec
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>>167354963
>>167355160
Cool, ringing now.
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>mfw its true
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>>167355217
>its'
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>>167355217
>terrible hitboxes
>implying you can get hit by watchdog
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>>167352656
Hmm...
Doll=The original VA, but with a porcelain mask and gloves, with a full set of doll clothes. Thus when she speaks, the mouth doesn't move
>Gehrman=Harrison Ford? Seems fit for the role and would be good at his age
>Gascoinge=Sean Connery for the voice, Jason Statham for the build/ acting simce Sean probs couldn't fit the bill for looks in his fat old man years
>Amelia=? does she need a significant if we don't even see her face? Her VA will do
>Church Dweller=Danny DeVito. I don't care, I want the Hunters best pal to be DeVito
>Alfred=Colin Firth (After Kingsman, I think he could make it work with a blonde wig)
>Eileen=Helen Mirren
>Suspicious Man=Rupert Grint
>Micolash=Nicholas Cage. Both for the name and the 'acting'
>The Hunter=A new face on the block, not some established actor. As long as they have had a long time in theatre, I don't mind who. An established face would carry too much weight to a role which should be neutral.

Just try to think of a better cast
>Protip:You can't
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>>167354471
Only if it's on a level that is debilitating low though, like using weapons with dual separate scaling when you have only enough space to raise one.

If the opponent can use a full weapon and I only have half he has a large advantage, If he can basically use any weapon well, and I can only use one weapon but just as well, it's considerably less.

>>167354819
I have a build with 30str/50blt, you can use it one handed, but at very considerable lower damage. In your build you basically sacrificed your main mode for using the other not very well, it'd be fine exclusively in PvP where two church canon shots can kill the opponent, but it's crippled for PvE where they don't.
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>>167355190
SRRC is taking its sweet time.
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>>167355507
The code is x6a7vj2d to help you get in faster
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Who wants to kill the failures and Maria for me so I can rush my Bloodletter and get back to playing the game? Password is bbg I'm the same faggot from earlier.
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>>167355578
It looks like the net isn't on my side today. Sorry, anon. Have you gotten the other spelunker yet?
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I've got 1 guy in here, is anyone else trying to get in?
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>>167353914
No, the only way not to kill her is to leave the baby alone
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>>167355608
Coming in a sec.

I want to meme on Failures with rapid poison.
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>>167356006
I'm seeing a Church Pick specter, but I'm not picking up a bell.
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>>167355608
>>167356109
Where are you ringing?
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>>167353895
I'd do that then. Least it gives a guide to players who its OK to silencing blank
out of.

>>167354169
First point could be made until you have 99Vit 40End 50Str 50Skl 50Blt/Arc. The whole point is to have a stopping point where the handicap is still enough to work with. Can't use the Chikage untricked? Too fucking bad. Want to use both tricked and untricked Bloodletter? Then prepare to take a 10th of your health with each second L1 you whinging cunt.

Your second point argued my own side for me. What is the point of 19 extra levels? Gems are cheap part of the game yes, but it takes less than one weekend sitting to get decent enough gems for FC. And higher levels just means gems are even more unfair if they are %based.
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>>167356237

Outside Marias fog.
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So how big is the stamina regen boost for Hunter of Hunters?
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>>167356484
two percent
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I'd kiss you if I could Hibiki.
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>>167356484
10%
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I don't know why but it just said wi-fi connection lost and sent me to the menu, ringing again.
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Session lost. And you were running in place, m8.
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>>167356404
What do you look like?

There's a bunch of ghosts here but I'm not getting any connections.
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Still ringing for FRC Isz, pass is Kosm
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Maria anon are you still ringing?

Because I've been waiting for ages.
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>>167355409
>but at very considerable lower damage. In your build you basically sacrificed your main mode for using the other not very well, it'd be fine exclusively in PvP where two church canon shots can kill the opponent, but it's crippled for PvE where they don't.

Like I said, you want to have your cake and eat it too. That is not variety. Plus, in PvE, you can use it with base stats and not be crippled. It would just take longer to win, that's it.
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Best weps for 25/50 str/arc build?
Also where do I find nice gems for said build?
Also, general tips and tricks for said build, going to use it to get dat dere platinum trophy with a 98lvl build
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>>167356291
>First point could be made until you have 99Vit 40End 50Str 50Skl 50Blt/Arc. The whole point is to have a stopping point where the handicap is still enough to work with.
Your fallacious argument works both ways. BL4 has a handicap that is still enough to work with, especially if you play only with those who have the same level (or lvl 30 for online which should be enough for base stats for any weapon).

I guess, it'd be unfair and lack of "variety" to be able to use the whole moveset of a weapon like the chikage. Fair is a lower level 50 vit 50 blt build that can unzip it with 3 31.5% blt gems you spent forever grinding. Your "variety" is actually a restriction of the fun I could have without deliberately crippling my character not to be able to use more than the one optimal move it can perform.

I'm not complaining about meta levels though, just that you can't convince me a level that can't even properly use all weapons to be good, to the point that merely 10-20 level difference allow new styles of gameplay that you have to cry about as being unfair.

>Want to use both tricked and untricked Bloodletter? Then prepare to take a 10th of your health with each second L1 you whinging cunt.
What does this even have to do with levels? No matter your level the bloodletter will take your HP when tricking.
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>>167357667
>not be crippled. It would just take longer to win, that's it.
That's true for every investment above your weapon base stats though. By that logic 98 is kind of too high as well.
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>>167358006
98 is build for PvP as well.
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So how does savescumming for the ending work?

I upload my save to PSN, do the ending, then I overwrite the machine's save with the network one, and end up back before the ending with my achievement intact?
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>>167358006
do not reply to tripfags
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>>167358163
yup
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>>167358118
Yes, a meta level, which could very well be agreed to be the twink level for example or the reddit level. Most people use those meta levels for the PvE characters as well though, especially considering how far you have to go for the necessary gems.
>>167358214
I use the anonimize option, so I didn't know he was someone I shouldn't reply to.
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>>167358310
Here goes

sure hope this doesn't go wrong
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>>167354169
dumb cunt can use both modes of the Bowblade and is at BL 100. If you need to get past 98 you're just a try hard.
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Just woke up for the first time. Is that the canon ending? Did the hunter actually survive? Does the sunrise mean that the nightmare, the scourge, and everything else is truly over?
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>>167358834
You need more eyes.
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>>167358527
Of course I can, "It would just take longer to win, that's it."
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how the fuck do I beat amygdala in the cursed defiled chalice?
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>>167358374
It is a meta level because gives good ranges, gives you enough stats to complete a build while still being low enough not to let you do it all. It also avoids the 150 shitters, and lets you invade level 80s, which is where most people are when they are going through the Nightmare of Mensis, i.e., one of the few areas you can be invaded in naturally.

Etc.

>>167358834
It means the outbreak is over. The beasts and kin still exist. It's just everyone in the city isn't going to be changing left and right, assuming any survived.

>>167358985
Glad you asked.
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>>167358964
I know about all 3 endings, this was the last one I've gotten.
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>>167357672
FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>167359062
I mean, the bells are tolling the sunrise. Which means someone's there to toll them.

Would we still have our blood-based superpowers?
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>>167359087
fuck off
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Legitimate question here, would it be fine to bring a higher leveled character to fc if everyone participating agreed to it? I have characters across different brackets either way.
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>>167358458
Don't forget to turn off auto upload.
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>>167358975
dumb cunt here. It takes the exact same time to win but it's faster to lose with 30 VIT and a Chikage with three -9 hp gems.
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>>167359170
Probably still have the super strength and such, but you would no longer respawn on death.
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>>167358985
Bait the attacks when it lowers its head. Run and R2/1 it.
Repeat until the last phase.
Stand behind its tail until it jumps. Hold R2. Win.
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>>167359319
Never had it on. It worked without a hitch. Thanks!
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>>167359087
We already did, in fact, it's in the first post of the thread.
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how to consistently farm a bone ash hunter on an ARC build?

I know about the one you can backstab right outside of the lamp, but that isn't working out too well for me with my ~350 damage visceral. I can ambush her with a really fast R1 combo though. She swings back ridiculously fast (only way I can stun lock her is with the saif) and she is so twitchy and dodgy
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>>167358985
get a lightning weapon
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>>167359264
>>
ayyy

ringing again
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>>167359491
>haha, just read all our retarded links written by mongs
KYS faggot and answer my fucking question instead.
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>>167359062
>gives you enough stats to complete a build
A build where you're restricted the basic usage of multiple weapons.
>It also avoids the 150 shitters, and lets you invade level 80s
And I guess, predating weak random players that probably barely PvP, while avoiding people who do but are, I agree, overleveled, but by limiting yourself when running away.

>>167359341
I was talking about the bowblade though, and about using both modes properly at the same time. Chikage you can use just the 2H mode, in fact it's the highest damaging part, it's just inconveniently restricting oneself to use only the optimal moves.
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>>167359652
I will find out
http://pastebin.com/29B6yRFr
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>>167359943
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>>167359943
>WAHHH SPOONFEED ME
Read the OP. HINT: Chalice Pastebin
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>>167357672
Boom hammer
Holy moonlight sword
Tonitrus
Logarius wheel (though its a little better at 50/25 IMO)

you need nourishing gems for all of these weapons; you can find triangle and waning ones off Amygdala in the Isz and Loran FRC dungeons, and you can find radial ones off of gargoyle enemies in the Ithyll FRC dungeons.

All those split damage weapons are to take advantage of your 25 STR, and with 50 ARC you can convert any weapon that does pure physical damage into a bolt/fire/arcane weapon and use it just as effectively
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>>167359943
Ahh, KYS, or some say KYSM... Do you hear our hotlines?
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>>167360078
Faggot
>>167360090
Shut the fuck up and spoonfeed me, I'm not high enough on the spectrum to understand your retarded graphs, but since you're obviously an autist that reads links from the OP, you tell me.
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>>167360130
This is why nobody reads the OP and the threads get flooded by the same questions everyday.
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>>167360031
>Tfw have a 127 use everything character
>Will be called out if I ever use it
ripperoni
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Anyone wanna farm Cold Abyssals with me?
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>tfw ditching my shit tier pure STR build and going back to my based 25-50 STR/ARC build

oh how I missed my Whirly
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>>167360130
ty myman, atleast someone isn't a fucking sperg looking for views on his shitty imgur albums.

But does it HAVE to be FRC's doe?
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It's taking a while to pick up your bell, anon. Sorry, m8.
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>>167360384
Enjoy your blank :^)>:^(
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>>167360523
Yes, the best gems come from FRC dungeons, you lazy piece of shit. Use the following link: http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/individual-blood-gems.html or, better yet, read the OP to find the glyph for these gems.
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>>167360654
>tfw when can't give in to the PSN jew
How's my chances of getting decent gems WITHOUT being a good goy?
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>>167360385
Sure, I can for some while if SRRC works this time.
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Sorry guys I failed too many times so I just went ahead and killed Amy by myself

Hopefully next time we can connect easier
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>>167360859
alrighty pass is: eye
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I can make a FRC, anyone wants to get in? I'll let you choose of it's Ihyll, Loran or Isz.
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>>167360798
You'd have to create your own FRC dungeons until you come across Amygdala, Rom, or gargoyles. Amy is fairly common in Isz and Loran, though. Rom, not quite so common in Ihyll, while Gargoyles are somewhat common.
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>>167360624
Thanks
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Hm, speaking of FRCs. If the best gems drop from the bosses, do you really need any additional rites beside the curse? The bosses are not affected by the other two, are they?
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Does anyone want to help me run through lower loran?
Pass: bbg
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>>167360898
>Abyssal
Yes!

>ATK down
Shit gem...

Redownloading:
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>>167361532
Right, Fetid and Rotted are more for fun than gem farming.
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>>167358834
No canon ending
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so curse halves health, what do the other two do? is it to do with the enemy spawns? doesnt seem to be anything in the OP about it
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>>167360013
Yes, you can't have your cake and eat it too. You have to specialize. That's the entire point and what leads to variety. If you can do everything on one build then there is no point in playing anything else.

120 is the main meta, outside of /bbg/, and 98s still connect to them, and are at a level disadvantage as well. How is that running away. Like I said, 98 works well for Duels, Invasions, and co-op because it has the best ranges.

>>167360508
A whirly is much better on Pure Str vs 25/50. A fire whirly doesn't even benefit from the 25 str.
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>this autist
if you think about it, it's probably lucifer without his fagcode because he's so desperate for replies that he put on a persona almost as obnoxious as that of a tripfag - someone who whines to be spoonfed because they're too lazy to read something for five minutes and further their understanding of the game they're playing. someone who just wants instant gratification. someone who will probably not be happy farming FRCs, especially in offline mode. I just don't buy that it's some newfag from /v/ or /dsg/. it has to be luci "wrath of the gods" fer.
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>trudge through loran chalice so I can move onto other chalices or whatever to farm gems, still dont know how it works
>make it to lower level 3
>alright lets get this over with
>enter fog
>oh nice its a paarl reskin
>kind of hard to hit because he moves around a lot
>screams into what i assume is phase 2
>frames dip to 15-20
>swipes are catching me for half my hp+chip damage
>all out of estus from healing so much
>still has half his hp bar remaining
>stuck between legs
>AoE'd into oblivion
>the fps memes were real
>I didnt believe them
>mfw

what the fuck is this cancer
please help
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>>167360914
Anyone?
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>>167362081
> If you can do everything on one build
If using the full moveset of a single weapon doing everything, sure. Arguing that 120 at least allow to properly use all weapons seems like you want to have a 50/40/50/50/50/99 build on your hyperboles.
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why do helpful hunters always die within a minute of fighting rom
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>>167362234
Did you like Camera Beast? Miyazaki made it all by himself.
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>>167357782
Exactly my point again. 98 is enough to work with, 30 is enough to work with, 4?-I will assume you were trying to make a point, so I won't take it seriously. 98 was agreed near unanamously on the strawpoll that was set up, to be the best balance between the minimum level possible, available investment, ability to sperg SRC chalices viably and general build variety.
This is why this subject in particular pisses me off. Even when OH came out, the meta was stable in light of weapons such as HMS the meta remained at 98, albeit with a lesser majority.
Sure, the Chikage is amazing when both formes are available to use. In fact it blows other weapons such as the Stake Driver or the Reiterpallasch out of the water. However if we had a higher meta, sure the weapons would have a greater moveset, but at the cost of actually viable weapons. At the moment all weapons in BB are relatively viable at 98. Weaker weapons have their build done and dusted, can use their full moveset and often have bonus points to invest. Stronger weapons often come at the cost of a more limited moveset, but the strong weapon itself offsets this weakness.
Sure a higher level would be more fun for the Chikage and the HMS users. But when those weapons become boring, when you see them every other match, it becomes stale. At which point you can't even use a different weapon, because the meta blows those weapons out of the water, limiting the possible meta. And yes 10-20 levels can make all the difference. If your 98 build can have the good attack stats with your personal handicap being a Vit of 30-40 those 10-20 levels means that goes straight to 50 Vit and BOOM you have an OP, one way meta.

My point about the Bloodletter was exacly that. Level doesn't matter about the 10% health, simply your unwillingness to trick it is preventing you from using your dream weapon with a wide varied moveset.
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>>167362234
Pass?
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>>167362490
ive never summoned anyone before, does it matter that im in ng+?
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>>167362297
You can use the full moveset of both. You just chose to specialize in one form or the other.

You can use ever weapon and item in the game at level 117.
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>>167362675
shut the fuck up already GOD
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>>167362570
No. All that matters is level and level gets ignored if you use a password.

Go into settings > network > password and make it: bbg

Then Select Beckoning bell from inventory and ring it
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>>167362762
alright be there in a sec, i share a monitor between my ps4 and pc so bear with me
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>>167362476
>your unwillingness to trick it is preventing you from using your dream weapon with a wide varied moveset.
You're making a wrong assumption, I like untricking and tricking the bloodletter, the transformation attacks are great. But when str is slow I'll use just the transformation and not all untricked moves.
>>167362675
>You can use the full moveset of both. You just chose to specialize in one form or the other.
The imbalance will cause you to not use the one you're not specialized though. Why use a 200 damage slice when you can get a 700 damage arrow or vice versa? Why waste bullets on 200 damage arrows that can't parry when you get 600 for every R1 attack?
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Stop replying to weak tripfag bait. He's proving once again that he's no better than a reddit shitter and you're still giving him the time of day. Just stop.
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>>167362901
Fine, I won't discuss that anymore and just enjoy my characters with better options.
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>>167361627
>>167360859

Ok?
i was mashing the circle button and i still couldn't dodge.
Oh well, I think i'm gonna call it for now.
Gotta go do some errands.
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>>167362762
shit mang i got no insight
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Anyone wanna help me out with defiled doggo? I can probably solo him, but I really would like to finish platinum-ing the game tonight. And all I got left is Yharnam and Moon Presence. Chalice dungeons are my least favorite part of the game.
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>>167363185
His attacks stunlocks your character, so it's not weird to be comboed to death. It's why I try to avoid his first attack before stunlocking him with any weapon with decent impact like the HMLS until he teleports away.
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>>167362723
>>167362883
>he imbalance will cause you to not use the one you're not specialized though.

Maybe if you are a shitter. You're not a shitter, are you?

A good player is going to use whatever is best for the situation even if the raw numbers are lower. My two-handed BL might do more damage per hit, but that is not going to stop me from switching to one-handed when I encounter a fast enemy or swapping to a hunter axe's L2s to deal with a rat pack.

>>167362901
>>167363169
>gets rekt in argument
>samefag, "don't talk to him"
>circlejerks to save face
LOL, everytime
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>>167363225
How on earth did you use it all if you've never summoned before?

I also accidentally got summoned by someone else using the same password. So I'm helping them kill Abortemt Beast.
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>>167363505
i buy pellets and shit

i just entered ng+ so ill go and say hi to cleric beast or soemthing to get an insight
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>>167363380
>get him down to like 1 hit away
>charge in for last one
>in my haste ignore his telegraph
>his charge takes me from full to dead instantly

HAHAHALMAO SURE IS FUN BOSS FITE
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Reminder not to reply to tripfags. The only one who looks like an idiot in that situation is you.
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I know it's a bit of a stretch, but /dsg/ doesn't want to listen. Can anyone here help me get the Ancient Dragon's Giant Soul in SOTFS on PS4? Vendrick is a fucking chore even with a +10 greatsword.
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>>167363771
https://youtu.be/tXwxAgA7tak

Yep, pretty fun actually. Hot Dog, like the Orphan, is one of the most DaS-like bosses in the game.
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>>167362883
>Why use a 200 damage slice when you can get a 700 damage arrow or vice versa? Why waste bullets on 200 damage arrows that can't parry when you get 600 for every R1 attack?
Because moveset.
Bloodborne is not about pure damage output, if it was, things like Blade of Mercy and Beast Claws would be useless. Trying to land a hit in a fast paced game like this is already hard enough with a complete moveset let alone half of it but that's not to say overleveling is better.
Min max is to stop people from using certain weapons without any drawbacks, for exemple the HMLS: it's better at 50/50/50 and that's not possible at the 98 meta but if it was there would be no reason to use anything else, the damage would be too much and when you put 50 VIT on top of that it would be unstoppable.
Just imagine if everyone in the FC had 50VIT/50STR/50SKL, it would be Saw Spear all night long and fights that lasted one shots.
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>>167363898
>DS2
>PS4
I wonder why they don't
Look up ancient dragon toe strat, this is one of the bosses you need absolutely no help with
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>>167363505
ringing now with beckoning bell
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Does anyone want to join on my Isz spelunking adventure? Will be ringing in about 5 min
Pass: splnk
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>>167364630
Password set to bbg?

Also stand by the lamp, I'm coming in through SRRC
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>>167364673
FRC Isz, by the way.
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>>167364381
Both your examples aren't possible on 120 either though.

And BoM doesn't do 350-500 damage because of overleveling, but because it's balanced with the fact that is the fastest weapon in the game, and by the time other weapons get a hit, it already got two. A better example would be if the BoM had the same scaling and base for skill and arcane or if it scaled tricked with one and untricked with the other, requiring now double investment to get the same damage, and now suddenly you'll be forced to "just take longer to win, that's it" if you like the weapon or be a "shitter" that wants to have 99 in all stats.
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>>167364673
Ok, will SRRC in
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>>167364807
yeah its set to bbg

what does SRRC mean?
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>>167364486
And yet I get invaded at the most inconvenient times.

I'd like to think that, but the run to him is a fucking joke, too.
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Chalice Dungeons were a mistake.
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i want to make a skill bloodtinge build but i don't want to be that orobobo impersonator and use the chikage
how to
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>>167365234
Small Ritual Root Chalice,

Basically lets you join into any chalice dungeon you have unlocked even if you don't have it up on another alter. Saves me from running the entirety of Lower Loran to help you.

But it takes forever.
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>>167365167
I forgot to set it to open, give me a second
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>>167365058
That's the point, deciding a meta is "just take longer to win, that's it".
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anybody feel like running through the Research Hall with my dumb ass?

pw is govikes
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>>167365479
Use the best bloodtinge weapon in the game then. The Bloodletter
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Reading this thread convinced me that bbg isn't interested in handicapping builds at 98 for variety, bbg just wants to dodge 150 redditors. Time to level up.
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>>167365693
Give me a sec to boot up mane
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>>167365828
117 can play with reddit, stop memeing
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>>167365602
Except with enough points for single stat and biased quality weapons to achieve their almost full potential, while having to cripple half of hybrid weapons.
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>>167365526
oh so you just gotta run through till you get layer three?

should i just keep ringing by the lamp then?
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>>167366006
SRRC is taking fucking forever.

Is your network settings set to worldwide?

Sadly I gotta go to work, hopefully someone else helps you.
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>>167365479
Gunslinger build, evelyn and reiterpallasch, 3 oedon writhe runes
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>>167365912
coo, lemme know when I should start rangin
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>>167366207
I'm there, start ya bell
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>>167366175
i was thinking this, except without writhe, i mean how many times are you going to visceral someone honestly
do i go for 25 tinge 50 skill or other way around?
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anyone want to help me with loran darkbeast? ringing at the layer 3 lamp pass is: bbg
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>>167366351
It depends if you want to do damage with the gun or with the blade. With 25 skill the reiter will be considerably low damaging though, so you'll end up using the chikage anyway for bosses.
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>>167365995
Crippled hybrid weapons do more/equal damage than single stat and biased quality weapons anyways.
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>one shot
So it begins. Anywho, I found a blood rock in the FRC. Is that rare?
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pls

defiled doggo

I've gotten him down to one hit left like 3 times only to get caught by the charge

I don't have the time to fucking grind this out

someone, anyone, please, help
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>>167366601
This is the only rock you'll be getting on chests at Loran. Only one per chalice type.
Since this was at pre lantern layer 1 I would share the glyph.
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>>167366540
Yes, like only using HMLS beams, only tricked chikage, only tricked bloodletter, only bow mode. Building to win, not for fun, it's not like it's a game. Why use anything other than the best movement of the weapon anyway except when you want to trick the opponent into thinking you won't use it again?

I'm sure when the developers designed those weapons they expected people to have to choose between one mode or the other.
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>>167355384
That is objectively not a great casting.

>Doll: I don't know, some eastern european model probably.
>Gehrman: David Bradley
>Gascoigne: Liam Neeson
>Alfred: Can't think of anyone handsome enough to play our perfect golden boy.
>Eileen: The VA is black, so I've personally always thought Eileen to be too, but I guess a white actress would make more sense in context. Helen Mirren, sure why not.
>Micolash: Rufus Sewell (somebody mentioned him in a previous thread and I think he'd be great)
>Master Willem: Jonathan Pryce
>Patches: CG, voiced by William Vanderpuye obviously.
>Simon: Iwan Rheon
>Queen Annalise: Tilda Swinton
>Valtr: Tom Hardy
>Iosefka: Emily Mortimer
>and Tommy Wiseau as the Chapel Dweller
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>>167366603
He shakes everytime before the charge. Just walking left or right when you see it and dodge in the same direction when he starts moving. You should never get hit by the charge if you are solo. It only becomes a crapshoot if you have someone with you because he can change targets mid-charge.
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when it comes to "tech" in Bloodborne and Souls PvP, what specifically is this referring to? just shit like ravioli pivots and burrito combos? Tricky inputs in general? Tech or teching in the FGC tends to mean something pretty different, as far as I can tell. Not unlike our definition of twink as compared to MMOs being pretty different. anyone got any insight?
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Research Hall Anons, you killed Failires yet? Can you ring again?
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Can anyone help me with undead giant from lower pthutemian?

jjph
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>>167366984
>he can change targets mid-charge.
That's frustrating as hell.
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>>167366241

thanks mate
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>>167367332
Sure, need a break from doggos.
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>>167366528
i ultimately want like 50/50, but that's a shit ton of points for damage
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>>167366948
>Queen Annalise: Tilda Swinton

No, that's Queen Yharnam. Tilda Swinton looks like a fucking Pthumerian in real life.
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>>167367332
Ringing, LP level 2 at lamp. RIght?
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>>167367563
Yup
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>>167367529
When are we getting a Metal Gear Solid movie with Tilda Swinton as Decoy Octopus?
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>>167367360
Memes = Dead

I'm online forever, if you want a bully let us know
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>>167366886
You can use both modes but it'll cost VIT to balance things out. Some madmen from here do that to some degree of success. /bbg/ has variety and balance proving that the 98 meta works.
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>>167366798
Ok. Well, the glyph is 9gwci63u if anyone wants this easy bloodrock. There is a rite keeper in the way, but that's about it. Also, there is a lost threaded cane in pre boss.
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>>167367449
It'd depend on your target level, but 50/50 is probably the only real skill/bloodtinge build, and not skill with some bullet damage or bloodtinge with some visceral damage.
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/22055
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>>167367813
You can use both modes with below average damage while having below average vitality, or one mode with good damage and other with pointless damage that might as well not use it which is the popular way.
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>>167368107
Yes
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>>167367630
Sorry anon, seems no dice.
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>>167368315
Great variety then, might as well make controllers that only has either R1 or R2 for the sake of this variety of playstyles.
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>>167367976
is 11 endurance enough
from the videos i've watched, the bowblade takes a fuck ton of stamina to trick attack with
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Uhhhhh... am I not able to get the Church Pick if I have already beaten Living Failures? How the fuck am I supposed to get to that back area with the level raised up?
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>>167368976
You can still get to the rafters on top and you can take a drop from there.
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>>167368976
Take the fucking stairs, dumbass. Everything's still accessible.
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>>167368656
No
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>open coffin
>great deep sea
This was a thing?
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>>167367346
It's even worse with Amy's jump. That's why we always suggest soloing them.
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>>167367128
Soulsborne games are very poor excuses of action. I wouldn't try.
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>>167368905
With 111 endurance you get 2 dashes and one charged arrow (2*10+90), or you can use 3 light arrows (30 each) and enough to dodge away. You'll probably do charge attacks only when you're in a safe position, so you'll be able to have time to restore your stamina.

Skill weapons like the Reiter, untricked bowblade, BoM and burial blade has low consumption. You'll probably have trouble with the Rakuyo though. For the chikage it's not great but it's not bad either.

You can't use the bloodletter though.
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>tfw Level 83 before Nightmare of Mensis
>tfw to overleveled too enjoy the rest of the game
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I swear to christ.

Can ANYONE, PLEASE, help me out with this fucking dog.

It's the most tedious fucking fight. Bait the swing--bop the nose-dodge--repeat. For 15 minutes. And if at any point in those 15 minutes you get to close, or swing to greedily, or are zoned out from the repetition and recognize his charge tell half a second to late--oneshot.

I know I could do it. I've gotten pretty close. But I have TEN MORE BOSSES to get through tonight, according to the OP chalice guide, and I really don't want to spend any more of my life on this fucking canine.
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>>167369645
Pass?
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>>167369645
>t. conquered
>15 minutes

It takes like 3 minutes or less.
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I've posted this before, so sorry in advance. Does anyone have the artbook and can take a hi-res scan of the shawl design of the choir set? I have the images in the OP, but they're pretty small and blurry. Thanks!
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>>167369583
>need to overlevel every souls game just to make it
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>>167369742
Nevermind, got him. Apparently I just needed to bitch a little more.
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Did you get her, FRC Isz anon? Is there a fourth layer? If not I had fun, thanks for letting me join.
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>>167370916
I did not kill her, but instead, she one shot me
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>>167369457
can you read?
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>>167369583
If a few extra levels is all it takes for you to steamroll the game on your first try then you wouldn't have had any problems with it in the first place
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>>167370916
>cursed arcane abyssal
>arc atk up 24.8
>rapid poison +3.4
>inc stamina cost
Is this good? Anywho, that was fun, anon. Thanks for joining me.
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>>167369860
This is from the digital version of the official artbook, most likely the best version you can find.
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>>167372789
I just noticed that those little Great Ones have tiny Ebritas wings.
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Anyone need any help with a particularity hard boss?
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>>167373928
Mine isn't particularly hard, but I'm not interested in spending the time to beat them solo. Defiled Amygdala? Pass is bbg
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how do I Guts cosplay
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>>167374478
Standard Hunter attire + Ludwig's Holy Blade, make sure to summon for absolutely everything (especially Defiled Amy + Hotdog, and Lower Pthumeru Rom) and then die in the most stupid ways
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>>167374478
That's pretty awkard to do in Bloodborne.

I'd say maybe
>no headgear
>yahar'gul garb for big black cloak
>old hunter wraps
>yharnam hunter trousers

And use Ludwig's transformed exlusively, except for when using cannon.
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>>167374478
>>167374870
Maybe Old Hunter garb instead. Not gonna get anything that doesn't have a long coat section, I'm afraid.

>tfw no cape slot to wear just a cape
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>>167374679
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>>167374679
kek
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>in the middle of an intense boss fight
>all of a sudden have to take a huge shit
>cant pause the game

fuck this game
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>My own revelation...just for me...
>Thank you. For everything...
>Really, I used to be nothing...
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LETS DO STUFF
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>tfw BB is basically a subscription based game for you since it's pretty much the only game you play on PS4 and you insist on being able to play online
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What sort of gems should I be putting in my Church Pick for my ARC build? Want it to be Bolt, so that takes 1/3 slots. doing 25-50 btw....
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>>167375641
Honestly, I found her end to be quite sweet. Probably one of the happier quests in the game.
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>>167375641

Maybe she finally realized why Maria gave her the balcony key.
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Do you think Kosm gives good head with that fish mouth of hers?
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>>167372789
This is perfect. Thank you so much, seriously!
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>>167376163
Duh, how else did she get pregnant?
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>>167376163
>Kosm
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I've died like 20 times to this Undead giant no exaggeration can anyonr help me

Glyph: jjph
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>>167375901
>>167375901
>>167375901

please respond or Im going to spam the thread with Amelia smut
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>>167376496
Ah yes, the first boss of Pthumeru, let's throw that fucker at people to make them not want to continue

On my way with complete decimation
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>>167376610
Read the OP. You'll need some Cold Abyssals, and Bolt gems.
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>>167376496
>>167376621
Wait that's lower Pthu whoops

Gimme a pass
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>>167376746
Im free pass
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>>167376735

Isnt that all Chalice shit? I dont want to overlevel myself more than I already have •___•
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>bought nioh in a split second when i heard it compared to bloodborne
>realize after that it has randomly generated loot and is piss easy

ebin
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>>167371508
Ignoring obvious bait, there's no tech worth exploring in soulsborne because they are shallow. Play a fightan gaem instead.
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>>167376860
The pass is pass?
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>>167376975
Well, yes. Unless you want to settle with Bolt gems from the casters in the Fishing Hamlet.
Also, nobody said you have to spend your echoes on leveling up.
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>>167376975
Good thing leveling is completely optional.
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Thanks harper goddamned finally
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>>167377040
Honestly, it is more challenging than BB, and over-leveling in either makes then super easy.
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>>167377160
not disputing that, in fact i wholeheartedly agree. literally just asking what it refers to in the context of these games.
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Is the boss if this fucking chalice Rom?
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>>167376860
Anon, I need a pass if you want me to help out
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>>167377512
Then I apologize for not being clear but I meant there isn't tech and I don't think I've met anyone using the word for anything.
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>>167378683
Never heard it used in BB either, but in Souls it was used for advanced tactics, such as BS tech.
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Speaking of over leveling, where can I do so in early DaS 3? Not sure where I can farm effectively. Just made it to Undead Settlement. No, I don;t want to ask in that other general. It's full of gays.
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Do not reply to tripfags.
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so how does the kirk hammer and the Amy arm fare for pve? any glaring flaws or shining strengths?
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Is there anything special besides the gesture that Djura gives you if you befriend him you can't get by killing him?
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>>167380946
you have to kill him to get his outfit.
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>>167380657
Kirk hammer is a worse LHB, and Amy Arm is a worse Hunter's Axe.
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So, weirdest thing just happened. Decided to help out someone with BSB, and then, during its second phase, it phases through a wall. It took a full minute before it said "Prey Slaughtered."
I was baffled.
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>>167359264
According to them, they're okay with it, they've had some extremely (140s) overleveled guys show up. I usually stick to 108 since its at the middle of the "meta." I don't even bother with public PvP, and consistently get my shit kicked in FC, so it doesn't really matter for me
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>>167365828
Everything hinges on if you want public PvP. If you don't, you can go a little above 98. If you don't want anything to do with FCs, and just want to PvE or co-op, get these dicks out of your ear and level to where you want. I try sticking around the middle of the so-called "meta" just for the sake of staying relatively even with everyone else.
The point is, if you have no interest in PvP, do what you want
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>>167334067
thanks, I'll definitely but it then sounds refreshing
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>>167381263
>Excuse me while I talk shit on the best weapon in the game.

Learn to Kirk faget.
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>>167382564
Where did I talk shit about the Whirly?
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>>167382564
There's something to be said about crushing opponents with a gigantic hammer made of stone, probably weighing more than we do. It may be a little gimmicky, but that fits most weapons
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>>167382706
Fuck, ok you got me... Alright, talking shit on the best non DLC weapon.
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>>167382735
I love it. Its so pure... I've gotten some amazing kills with my hammer. Love it for Strength, and converted for Strength Arcane builds. Shit is fuuuuuun.

And the second makes me feel like Thor.
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Don't reply to tripfags.
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if I just killed Orphan right one second after he killed the beckoner, does the beckoner still get the Kos parasite?
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>>167382781
Before the DLC I ran a 50/25 LHB + Axe setup. It was the best weapon setup in the game.
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>>167383305
I'm working on a strength focused quality build now too. Went with LHB over the hammer, but what are the best weapons from the DLC? Hard to pick between the Church Pick and the Pizza Cutter... and honestly the Beast Cutter seems like it could be a good alternative with that insane range.
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>>167383485
All three of those are considered being the top weapons in the DLC. If you don't care about being a shitter, the Saif and Rakuyo also work. If you're going for Blt, get the Bloodletter
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Question, for anyone that can answer... Ok so I know that most gems are physical. And I know that if you stick in a gem that does some form of arcane or elemental damage it removes all physical attack and replaces it with arcane that then builds off your arcane stat, and in this way almost any weapon without its own built in element can be made elemental. So when I pop fire or bolt paper does it do the same as the gems? Does it destroy my physical damage, or does it add ontop of it?

Like if I go strength Arcane, and I'm using a weapon without any built in arcane, is it worth it to stick a good gem in it, or am I better off leaving it as such and just using a lot of paper?
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>>167383732
Isn't Rakuyo more Skill? Not sure about the Saif.

And I really want to use the Bloodletter, I fucking love mace and morningstar type weapons, but fuck how do I even build to that? Is there anything else I can use with it?! Strength and Blood ugh... I mean the Chikage is all Skill and Blood, and I think Bowlade and Reiter are Skill based too right? Can I make a 25/50 skill/blood build and just use the BL in its tricked form? Or would that be weird... I haven't really used it much at all it just looks like fun.
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>>167383845
Fire/Bolt Paper does not convert your weapon's scaling into Arcane. It just adds elemental flat damage.
If you're going STR/ARC, you use gems. Paper buffs are for STR/SKL builds.
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Can someone help me with BSB? Ringing at the fog, pass is bbg
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>>167383845
Papers add a flat 80 of fire/bolt on top of your weapon physical damage. You get no scaling over it.
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>>167383485
Whirly, Rakuyo, Saif, and BL are the best DLC weapons.

Whirly for Str, Rakuyo + Saif for Skl, and BL for BLT.

I also replace the Rakuyo with the Pick for PvE.

On my Str build I use the Whirly + Hunter's Axe.
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>>167384070
Step one: Lock on
Step two: Hold forward+left on the left analog stick

Congratz, you've beaten Blood-starved Beast.
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>>167383993
The standard level 100 bloodtinge build has base str for bloodletter and base skl for the chikage and bowblade, and only using them tricked.

If you're going 120 you can get 28 or 30 strength to be able to use every gun in the game like the machine gun and a canon, which would also give some untricked potential for the bloodletter.
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>>167383993
Both the Rakuyo and Saif are skill weapons, and are common for shitters. When it comes to the Bloodletter, using it for Blt is far better than trying Str. I would recommend leveling yourself to the bare essentials for the Bloodletter, Bowblade, and Chikage, and proceed to dump everything into Blt. Take what you want/need for Vit and End. The Bowblade has S scaling in both Skl and Str, so it works excellently as a compliment to the Chikage if you're going for high Blt. The Reiter works on similar scaling as the Rifle Spear, geared toward Skl with small bonuses to Blt.
A 25/50 Skl/Blt build for the Bloodletter could work, as long as you have the Str to use it. However, I'd still recommend taking minimum Skl and Str, while piling everything onto Blt. It's possible to do Str and Blt, but not entirely practical, as all it lets you do is use the Church Cannon, which, like other huge guns, is not entirely practical for PvP
>>167384328
If he goes for this, I'd say 30 Str. The Church Cannon isn't as reliable as the Cannon, and a difference of two bullets isn't much to worry about
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>>167384070
If you're still ringing, I could drop in.
Chalice or story?
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>>167384559
>>167384070
>helped by based hibiki
Arigato, o formless one.
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