/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

>>167213617
Everyday until we like it?

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Tencent is the best thing to happen to Monster Hunter discuss

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>>167213617

>>167213696
While their game has nice graphical fidelity, their game structure and animations are garbage.
Those GL animations are okay though

>>167213686
All autists run out of steam eventually

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/ourgame/?

>>167214262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUpPYvELLB8

Uh yeah sure

>>167214262
>an entire game of just gimped bow
hey at least it looks pretty, right?

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>>167214923
It's a 3rd person shooter game. The enemies look good though.

Did they actually nerf adept evade windows?

>Lance's third hit is still so fucking slow
reee

>>167216751
>striker lance will still be best style in XX

>>167216858
Not necessarily, without the busted charge, Adept would be the best.

>>167216751
Is this Gen's way of buffing the gunlance? Make its superior cousin less appealing to use?

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>>167216948
Is it time to soar again?

>>167216858
>possible Guard Rage IV
>doing Guard Rage now causes health and HA gauge regen
It doesn't matter that Brave Lance gets an infinite combo with the shield advance, they just made Striker Lance even more powerful. The only way to change this is by giving Guard Rage III Extra Large for recharge

>>167217080
It'll still be balanced just as long as they remove that stupid charge from Striker, and make the triple hit only consume one point of stamina.

>>167217275
They'll probably nerf adept Lance before nerfing Striker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpcUgNkVQIs
>dragon blighted
>elemental damage spark still happens
so I'm guessing Baru armor has a skill similar to Bubbles but with Dragonblight?

>>167218395
Sounds like dumb gimmicks, I'd rather have WE+Crit boost

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>trying to get a single light crystal in low rank

How do I stop Chameleos from stealing my shit?

>>167219450
stop pooping

>>167219450
You don't get hit by his most telegraphed attack...

>>167219526
>>167219645
Also why won't his tail come off?

Asshole keeps poisoning me

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Who's ready for Hollywood's take on the series?

>>167219863
because it's Chameleos, the tail is the stupidest break on it in every game. In FU iirc it was bugged and sometimes would lop off it a few hits despite being a HP dependent break

I killed my first couple big enemies. Tagged them with paintballs, fought for nearly an hour on my first great jaggi. but it was so awesome. Im fucking hooked.

I just dont know if I am wasting my time with the long sword? I forged the bone sword and ugraded it once to some type of new bone sword, same look same attack but better stats and different name. Dont want to waste crafting mats if I can avoid it.

>>167220208
Wait, what is this actually from

>>167219863
you have to hit the curled part

>>167221843
Cabin in the Woods.

>>167221843
Cabin in the woods

>>167221807
Long Sword is seemingly straightforward with fair reach and speed, but you got things like the Fade Slash to reposition, the spirit meter, and aura upkeep to keep in mind.

If you're playing 4U, try playing around with other weapons in their respective tutorials if you're not overly keen on it.

>>167222227
Sounds good, I will give them a shot.

Hows the 4U community here? Still active or should I just solo this one and pick up the newest game ASAP.

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Goodnight /mhg/!
I'll hunt and chat with you again tomorrow!

>>167221807
What do you mean by wasting your time with long sword?
It isn't a waste if you like Long Sword.

You should try other weapons and compare though.

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>>167222373
Though it's not a lot, there's at least a few people playing each game, given that's the nature of co-op games. You can try posting here or in the /mhg/ Discord to scout out players keen on hunting in the game you're playing.

While most people will be sitting at G-Rank, it's not out of the question for them to gear down. See how you go first.

Anybody still play MH4U? Took a break like 2 years ago and got caught up with Animal Crossing and PS4

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>stonefist set gives AuM, Divine Blessing, and Evasion 1
>encourages balls-deep dodges
>Adrenaline talismans are shit in Gen, no way to get to +15

JUST

>>167223217
Drilltusk has Adrenaline +2

How are Bows, really? I've never played range, always been a GS/LS/Hammer person, but I keep getting a bunch of high-damage bows with decent elemental effects.

>>167225921
For the past two games, there's a single bow that simply shits on the rest. They can kill shit well, but it leads me to thinking that there's something wrong with how the weapon is designed. That and there's little reason to bother with arc shots.

>>167226079
Arc shots were useful in 3rd gen, if only because element actually meant something on bows in those games.

>>167226079
>For the past two games, there's a single bow that simply shits on the rest
That's been true in every single MH. Blame the fact that Bow pretty much only cares about raw + high level rapid shots.

>I literally cannot complete hr molten tigrex no matter who I bring or if I solo it
Why in the FUCK do I need to hunt this fucking thing upgrade my regios GS, its like capcom completely randomized upgrade crafting and I hate it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpcUgNkVQIs

Valfark's IG doesn't look very good to be honest, It really shows XX shoestring budget, but I guess there's only so much stuff you can cram in a 3DS game without making concessions to it actually work.

>>167229191
It just has a weird shape (since it's basically just one of Valfalk's extending wing spikes turned into a weapon) but it has some neat details like how the center of it lights up depending on the extracts you have which is visible through the gaps.

>>167228253
play gen

>>167229191
>but I guess there's only so much stuff you can cram in a 3DS game without making concessions to it actually work
The fuck are you even talking about?

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https://www.famitsu.com/news/201702/02126110.html

>>167213805
Those animations aren't of unusual quality. Most of the animations are better than mainline, or are literally mainline animations except you can actually see them because it's on a screen larger than 240p. Dunno what you mean by "game structure," but it's fundamentally just a Monster Hunter game. The only differences that stand out to me are ultimates and unlockable moves (which Gen also has), zenny scarcity (which Gen also has) and being even grindier than mainline (which I'll admit is shit but it doesn't seem like something that the sort of people bitching about MHO would mind; basically weapons require more parts to upgrade and armour more parts to make than mainline but the RNG is the same bitch ass mother fucker it is in mainline).

I mean I guess you could make a pretty weak argument about damage numbers, but if you don't have those you just look up MVs anyway and once you learn the relative strength of your attacks you can turn them off and still use blood splats to gauge hitzones.

>>167230398
Wish they'd stop with the collabs and showed some actual new content.

>>167230547
Pls, MHO is janky as hell, nothing looks or flows right and all the movement feels off
Monster AI and animations are awful too

>>167230614
Almost all of the monster animations are literally mainline. Now I know you're retarded.

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>>167230614

>>167230167
He picked a random thing in a MHXX vid to use as an opener for his shitpost. He doesn't actually have any opinion on the IG.

>>167230614
The animations on the hunters would be fine but they use the cheapest visual effects on them and have this persistent need to use all the weirdest, most unfitting sound cues for everything in the game, including shit that already exists, where mainline and Frontier nailed that part.

>>167230759
Damn, wish I had that webm with the MHO Monoblos now. Slinky knees and all.

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>>167230879
This one? On the contrary it looks great, perfect footing.

>>167230398
hope we will get an actual glaive as insect glaive with the Kingdom collab too.

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>>167230814
>>167230614

>>167231267
The reworked rath animations are the best, I wish mainline would adopt them. Shame rathian still has a first-frame hitbox on its charge animation and still does the roar-windpress-tailswipe thing pinkian and goldian do in mainline.

Recommended style/art for Longsword?

>>167231707
absolute evasion

>>167231707
Critical Juncture > Sakura Slash > Absolute Readiness
Style choice on LS is situational and depends on the monster

>>167230547
>Most of the animations are better than mainline, or are literally mainline animations

If by that you mean Freedom Unite, sure. I cannot imagine you typing this stuff with a straight face.

>>167232728
I don't mean FU. They're all mainline or better. Look at the webms just posted for fuck's sake, where they differ they're either better (or the same animation but with more physically convincing movement, as with kut ku).

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>>167232728
I'll humor you with another one.

>>167233240
>tfw gunlance is unfun spammy trash in mainline good only for stringing together montages of shelling interrupts but in MHO where it's actually fun lance is even more fun
GL can't catch a break

>>167233340
And in frontier it's only used for stringing together montages of i-frame wyvern fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWjJrddvHcQ

>>167230814
>>167230993
>>167231267
I've finally figured out what's wrong with MHO's animations. They lack weight. Monoblos is the most obvious one. He fucking goes 0 to 100 to 0 during his charges and head thrusts while doing super sharp turns. Not to mention the janky ass mouse camera. It might be fine and fun to play with mouse but it seems more like the mmo vindictus in terms of animation and gameplay.

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>>167221807
get gud with greatswords ffs

>>167233807
Kutku is another one. I can see regular kutku struggling to get enough air forced away to do such a huge jump. While it also ties well with his flying to another area animation where he flaps a ton to fly. Whereas in mho he just gotta goes fast the flight instantly. It really does seem like a beat em up sorta game.

>>167233962
If you need to git gud with gs you're hopeless desu. Most babies are born gud with gs. All it requires is a very vague sense of rhythm and that's just to play it optimally.

>>167233807
Monoblos's instant acceleration is bad but it also does that in mainline. Bloses are just shit monsters.

>>167234091
am i a scrub for using buster swords in god eater?

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>>167233807
I'd 0 to 100 to 0 ur mom last night

>>167234136
I've never played god eater so I don't know but probably cus giant swords are gay and it's mostly queers that like them (and studies have shown that queers are scrubs).

>>167234213
muh footsies tho

>>167233807
Finally rathian in mho has a really commendable spin. Something that all gen 1s need fixed but I'd rather keep it that way because of how iconic it is when it comes to gameplay. However that running fireball. Something feels off. Well it feels dreadqueen kinda off. Can't put my thumb on it but ugh.
>>167234091
Yeah I can understand blos doing the stupid instant turn charge but damn that blos has no chill. Even regular white monoblos has this cool slide animation as it decelerates from a charge. That thing in mho just instantly stops it's charge and goes straight into a horn attack.

>>167234196
Yeah I would to ;^)

>>167233807
Bloses look as bad in mainline. Like a 20 yo game in 120fps.

>>167234654
You spin me right round baby~

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So by the look of things so far, which do you think will be the prevalent styles for every weapon in MHXX, /mhg/?

>>167234526
>120 fps
4U runs at 40-60, 3U is a bit worse without a cfw 3ds and gen runs at 20-30.

>>167234654
I don't know if I love or hate the animation on that spin. I know I hate it in terms of fight design though, it's some garuga or rathian tier bullshit.

>>167234947
Probably brave for most weapons, and if they don't get nerfed still adept bow and DB and striker lance and sns. Unless brave is all looks and no MVs of course.

>when you play with a pellet gunner so bad that dcing and blacklisting them isn't enough, you have to wait til you're back in the hall to tell them how trash they are
I narrowly saved the guy from being killed by dreadqueen's poison three times with all three of my lifepowders and he repaid me by constantly stunlocking me and the gs with fucking rapid pellet s, nearly getting me killed once and getting the gs killed once. At least normal pellet gunners don't nearly cart three times a hunt. Jesus christ I'm mad. And he was posting dreadqueen v, meaning he got carried through 1-4 too. Honestly I SHOULD have just DCed, to avoid carrying him further.

>>167236237
Why didn't you just fail the quest then if you don't want to carry him

>>167236361
I'd lose my credibility telling him he's the worst player I've ever seen. What I actually should have done, now that I've taken a minute to think about it, is decline to lifepowder him, but it's just my instinct to jam a lifepowder when I'm playing sns and see someone about to die.

>>167234947
>SnS
Striker: Brave doesn't add anything noteworthy, in fact its animations seem like the definition of style over substance
>DB
Adept: Doesn't seem like Brave's additions can top the adept dodge into demon dashes cheese
>GS
Guild: GS is the weapon that most heavily relies on sheathing, so a style that impedes sheathing speed is counter to the weapon's gameplan
>LS
Brave: A counter, a mobility option, and the Adept upslash in the spirit slash chain? The style's additions have been among the best for LS.
>Hammer
Guild: Unless I'm misinterpreting how the style works, Brave is actually quite clunky on Hammer.
>HH
Hard to tell. Brave just handles really differently to the horn's usual moveset. I'll err to the side of caution and say Guild, there's nothing Brave added that seemed to add some amazing new utility.
>Lance
Striker: Can someone who actually mains Lance explain to me what Brave adds? It looks so underwhelming.
>GL
Brave: Guard point on reload, rapid fire shelling, mid combo multi-reload baby.
>SA
Striker: One art on Brave, so auto-shit for this. Will be funny if SP is actually big enough that Alchemy is the best SA style.
>CB
Brave: GP on a dash, shield thrust, quick easy AEDs
>IG
Guild: Unless the bug nibbling at the opponent is actually some amazing extra DPS, I'm gonna say Guild is still best.
>LBG
Striker: So Brave adds an awkward triple sidestep shot that seems impossible to aim and just a waste of time. Pass.
>HBG
Brave: Fucking MOBILITY. Rolling out of siege, sprinting out of roll, sieging out of sprint, and that fucking accelerating RoF on the siege. This shit is as good as the LS additions, if not better.
>Bow
Adept: The triple shot Brave gets roots you in place for much too long to seem useful, and nothing else about the style stands out.

>>167236237
After nearly 300 hours in Gen, I've yet to ever cross paths with a pellet gunner at all. You've met them frequently enough that you have an impression of what a "normal pellet gunner" is like?

Shit, I'm a gunner myself, and I've never seen what could possibly make pellet useful over normal or pierce. Far as I'm aware it's strictly a griefing tactic with Aerial.

>>167237973
The pellet gunners of legend are far and few between I think. And admittedly the monsters that used to be hyper weak to pellet (Diablos and Kirrin off the top of my head) lost their pellet magnets and made it lackluster to use all around, so you won't see people who know what they are doing use it seriously either.

But every now and then, you get someone who knows exactly what they are doing by using a rapid pellet LBG.
And that is fucking with everyone in your group.

Between friends I find it pretty fun when you have 4-way rapid pellet fights while also killing the monster. Using it with randoms is a recipe for disaster.

What if Adept style took away your panic dive

>>167239107
It would literally do nothing at all. An Adept dodge is better than a superman dive, and the weapons that best use Adept never sheathe anyway.

>>167237705
>Guild: GS is the weapon that most heavily relies on sheathing, so a style that impedes sheathing speed is counter to the weapon's gameplan
Doesn't brave GS get lance sidesteps or some shit? Depending on the MVs brave might be more valuable than crit draw.

>>167237973
This is the first I've encountered in Gen but I encountered a bunch in 4U.

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>>167234947
Delet huge tit huntress

Petite fittresses will inherit the earth

Is the Venom Lance any good or is poison a useless status?

>>167238897
I enjoy aerial pellet hbg alot

It's not as good as just pure pierce but GOD DAMN is it FUN and only slightly worse.

Plus you get to laugh at your friends getting stunlocked or go aerial HBG too for maximum fun.

>>167240106
In 3U it was supposedly decent because a lot of monsters are quite weak to poison, though the amount of poison on the Gigginox Lance is fucking overkill

In other games either the matching element, blast, or another status is is used, still handy for casually going against Kushala though

>>167240262
Thanks, so in MH4U going to Rampart would be a better idea? I made a bone spear but didn't really like it.

>>167240369
You're still quite early in the game. Coming off from Knight Lance+, Rampart does have some green sharpness, and Venom Lance is still on yellow, which means you'd be under the penalties of the low sharpness modifier.

On the other hand, poison damage does a static amount when you first build it up, and Lance can use status fairly well. Quite literally the only alternative in this game is the Yian Garuga Lance. Do look into some elemental Lances and other status, though.

You'll want a water Lance to handle Gravios with.

>>167241795
Thanks, I just unlocked the relic Smith and am confronting a lot of the skill stuff I kind of ignored before. Why does the pastebin make sharpness/sharpening out to be such an important skill to have?

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>>167242469
Because sharpness is effectively your biggest damage modifier because it's a multiplier. Even +10% damage can be huge by Monster Hunter standards.

Relics are a bit funny, the weapons are primarily sought after in the endgame since they can potentially outclass crafted weapons, but before that you can still get some that are better than your craftable options at certain points in the game. Never bothered with it much though, but they're there.

>>167242816
The odds of finding better relics than crafted before endgame really makes the search not worth it. Just going with crafted weapons until you hit crown G is the sane choice, and I don't think I've known of anyone in the general who bothered with it more than you did.

>>167213696
would main

>>167240050
but who was paizuri

>>167213696
Anyone playing this? How is the ping and english translation?

>>167237705
What the fuck is brave

>>167245505
One of the two new styles in XX.

>>167245505
counter moves with unlimited parry window that slowly drains your health or something.

More casual shit like "adept" style.

>>167245794
The only counter Brave adds is the first attack in the spirit slash chain when powered up.

>>167245505
New style in XX. You get a dramatically slower sheathing animation that can be held, drains health and stamina, and during which if you are hit you're going to incur only 30% of the damage and backstep out of the way.
The main draw of the style is that it has a meter that gets filled up by attacking or being hit during sheathing, and when it fills up you will enter "Brave Mode" and recieve a dramatically enhanced moveset that emphasizes mobility.

>>167245794
>More casual shit like "adept" style.

I think they play too much of DMC.

>>167247823
...archdemon mode for all weapons?

>>167247827
DMC fag from yesterday, adept is is casual garbage to me

>>167247827
have you ever even played dmc

>>167247823
>incur only 30% of the damage
Calling it now, endgame G rank monsters/level 20 deviants are going to make it way too dangerous to do the brave counter.

>>167248598
Guess you'll just have to do a good old fashioned dodge.

Is there a website that has time attack records for each weapon in mhg?

also what's the overall best db for mhg?

>>167248598
That's already a given. Styles are mostly meant to be suboptimal.

>>167248598
It still beats getting one shot. It's not a counter anyway, just a safety option. So just play normally while using as many brave attacks as possible, but if you're caught out of position, you can survive using the brave "evade".

>>167249165
Hellblade, like almost every other wep

>>167249445
Dunno, sounds like it's prioritised as the best way to enter bravemode. Using it like GS or SnS's block sounds reasonable though, although SnS's is better than people seem to realise.

>>167250073
The brave evade adds a bit to the gauge, but not as much as actually attacking.
Besides, unless you're constantly getting hit, occasionally tanking through an attack with brave so you can play more aggressively isn't a problem.
When the demo comes out on the 15th we'll know which styles are worth using and which aren't anyway.

Do i use Guard+ on GL or is it better to just focus on offensive skills?

>>167250261
Pretty sure evasion is still vastly better than guarding on GL. It's generally better on lance too but at least guard lance has a counter to keep it attacking.

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Do you guys think we'll get creators models for any of the other fated four?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAMxAwX5O0c

Let's list all of the blacklistable offences so that newfriends know what not to do and can better integrate.

The first thing that you should never do is name your Palicos after a Pokemon. That's an instant kuro right there.

I want to give Miss Cat a big, wet, adult kiss!

>>167251578
I'm a newfag and I named it after my cat.

>>167251578
Can I name my pokémons after monsters/hunters though?

Is fire or dragon better against Chameleos in Generations? And is the switchaxe good for hunting it? This monster has a lot of health. I need to optimize my gear.

>>167251838
I want to give YOU a big wet adult kys!

>>167252391
Fire is better

>>167252391
Fire is marginally better ( http://mhgen.kiranico.com/monster/chameleos )
Power phial switch axe will take it out in 10-15 minutes.

>>167247827
The frames needed for a table hopper are next to none and adept has more frames than fucking dark souls
Also adept encourages reactive play when you're supposed to act with controlled aggression and know when to retreat instead of reacting to it.

>>167252391
Mundus Reignus is THE Chameleos removal switch axe, make a set with Dragon+2, Element Crit and Repeat Offender and you'll destroy it.
Ignore>>167252787
If you can't craft it use Black Harvest=Dreadking>Rathlagration

>>167253034
That's the point, it's a different playstyle.

>>167254080
he was talking about that guy who said adept is for DMC fags. It really isnt

>>167253034
e+2 has more frames than dark souls as well, a fastroll in dark souls 1 has about the same duration of invincibility as e+1 (and an optimised build with softcapped iframes in dark souls 2, where iframes are skill dependent rather than weight dependent, has the same as e+2).

I'd say "I don't know where this misconception about dark souls having more iframes comes from" but I do, most enemies in dark souls have much better hitboxes that linger less (and, to be fair, having very little equipment load is similar to having evade extender in MH), plus the iframes start up slightly earlier in the animation, so it's a lot easier to dodge shit with the same number of iframes. Even with a slowroll, which gets two more iframes than no e+ and two less than e+1 and slightly less roll distance than MH rolls have, you can iframe almost everything in dark souls much more easily than in MH.

A fun thing to do (if you're gud enough to iframe in the first place) is to test what I just said by rolling forward through kut ku's fireballs (as a pretty good example that's easy to iframe) with no e+ and see what happens! spoilers, what happens is you clearly pass all the way through the fireball before getting dragged after it because of the lingering hitbox

>>167255336
okay, but the point was adept encourages reactive play, do you have anything to say about that? Or are you saying that e+2 does the same thing, because I could agree with that but I'd still think adept did it more so because you can't immediately attack afterwards.

>>167255586
Nah I'm a different guy, just playing doubles advocate :^)

>>167255702
>doubles advocate
It's a doggy dog world for sure

>>167255854
I don't want to be a pre-madonna but aren't we getting a little off-topic?

Garuga is my spirit animal!

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>>167257154
Mine too.

>>167237705
Out of the weapons I can see

SnS - Alchemy, Striker, or Guild because they all have access to more than 1 HA

DB - Striker and Adept will still be the best for it

GS - Guild, Brave makes charging too clumsy to be worth it

LS - Brave, has access to a lance style-counter and the superior Spirit roundhouse animation.

Hammer - Guild but Brave will be second place instead of Adept

HH - Alchemy and Guild unless if Brave recitals have proper motion values and Alchemy is basically just guild in terms of moveset anyway

Lance - Striker, SP only buffs them

GL - Brave, blocking while reloading, having full control over their shelling and a Wyvernfire that can be cancelled early will do nothing but make the gauge an actual buff for it

SA - Striker because SA is cancer

CB - Brave or Striker since CB only has room for improvement

IG - Aerial and Guild, Brave and alchemy do nothing for it

LBG - Adept, LBG got shafted hard for a brave gimmick

HBG - Adept for pierce, Brave for Normal

Bow - Adept, directional backhops do not save brave

Prowler - Adept, Support cats will be the strongest type since Beast Prowler look like complete shit

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>finally bother to read the Lance pastebin
>high attack does more damage than straight
Boy have I been wasting my time.

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>>167260357
I know that feel, anon. I was hundreds hours deep into 3U endgame before realizing you could R charge after a golfswing. I shudder thinking of the cumulative wasted time.

>>167260357
Well on the plus side a missed high does 0 dps, straight usually hits more

>>167258331
Striker is guaranteed to be the only relevant CB style forever because its shield charge has 5% higher damage than every other style's, and Brave CB can't even charge the shield normally.
And Striker Lance's position entirely depends on whether they nerf the charge, if they do, Adept and possibly Brave will take over

>>167258331
Striker LBG is much better than adept since you can cancel the recoil animation with absolute evasions.
Aerial IG is overrated.
Alchemy anything but weapons with 3 arts is shit, otherwise it MIGHT be good. Don't get your hopes up, it's the shitterbait thing again.

>>167260357
It's more about what can hit, and more importantly what hits the part you're aiming for; The difference isn't THAT huge. Also straight moves you forward slightly and has higher reach, so I frequently do a straight (or two if necessary) to hit confirm and then follow it up with one or two highs or a counter. Like most other weapons, there is a way to get optimal damage assuming your target is stationary and its weakpoint can be hit consistently with that combo, but that doesn't mean it's the best combo to use at all times.

For further info on top tier lancing watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZk5JkkNnG4
this is the top record-holding lance TA of shagaru 140 that has a video of the run up (afaik). You'll note they use everything in the lance's moveset at different points, and both guard and evade lance (with knowledge of what they can counter without g+). They even use the sweep to catch the monster on the nose when it moves out of their combo, which shitters will tell you is an attack you only use on quests to clear out small monsters.

>>167262208
No, the sweep is fantastic, it gives Super-Armour too

>>167261159
>Striker is guaranteed to be the only relevant CB style forever
Losing the shield bash makes it a lot less versatile when it comes to comboing on sword mode, and the phial damage you get from those attacks can help when trying to stun monsters. Adept is by far the best one.

shut it
all of you
you'll fap on best styles when you get the final game with all the ("new")arts, mv sheets and movesets

>>167262376
Versatility doesn't matter, only numbers do. Your weapon only really needs to do one thing. And Striker has the highest numbers.
You don't want to be in sword mode for anything other than charging phials anyway, once your phials are full you want to be in axe mode as much as possible to snipe with AEDs.
Adept and Brave also can't use double absolute evasions so they're trash.

>>167262279
The sweep when you turn around after a charge is great for a number of things too. My favourite, which isn't so much a reliable function or something actually wise to do as something that looks really fucking cool when it works, is charging down another player who is locked in an animation and about to get hit (so they get iframes from being launched) then turning around and dunking a charging or swooping monster that was coming for them with a head stagger. In that TA you can see them use it to reorient themselves relative to the monster so when they backstep the frenzy blasts they won't move away from the monster, as well.

So with WE adding 50% affinity and every sns having easy access to a 30% affinity boost, is crit status/element actually viable now? Seems to me that on the right set it would be even better than regular status/element up skills.

>>167263213
Crit Status is always bad
Crit Element has never been bad

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Hosting Generations, Attempting to do quests for Toka Armor, would appreciate the help.

>>167262208
Vids like this make me feel bad about maining HH. I love how it feels but killing anything takes forever.

>>167263695
>not joining the robot

What is equipment bias for expeditions? Is it just whatever weapon will probably work well against whatever monsters are there?

>>167263806
the relics you mine, you shouldn't care about it since weapons from expeditions suck dick

>>167263703
Why do you suffer through it?
Until HH gets a single-player buff you're wasting huge amounts of time whenever you use it solo.

>>167263695
host here. will be gone for 10 minutes or so starting now. sorry.

>>167263387
>Crit Status is always bad
Even when it's just a flat 20% bonus because SnS can easily hit 100% affinity?

>>167263703
Lance wasn't the hottest in 4U across the board. It's just an exceptionally good matchup for Shagaru, even then its time doesn't compare to the titans that are GS and IG. I also enjoy HH, though I've been playing HH less recently in favour of hammer because with HH I feel both a pressure to play online and like I have to rely on my team being good to not get shitty times even if I hit the monster the whole time.

The only weapons I generally don't enjoy are GS, SA and GL though.

>>167263806
It's what equipment you get if you mine up relics on the expedition. Expedition relics are trash, I think even if you're just getting temporary relics pre-g-rank you want the ones from guild quests. IIRC it doesn't affect the biases of the GQs you get from the expedition either so it's basically irrelevant.

>>167264104
>>167264213
Alright

>>167264213
It's only good if it replaces Razor Sharp on a silversol set, you're better off running Status+1 and Specialist.

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>>167214262
>>167215763
>Our game?
>It's a 3rd person shooter!

>>167264213
The thing is that it's a 20% bonus on the times when status does proc, and a 20% bonus on status isn't that big of a deal. KO King and straight up Status Atk +2 are considered a waste of points and they don't even need any other conditions be met to be active. The benefit of boosting status is it'll pop more often, but the thing is the difference will be minimal enough that on early activation it's indistinguishable and the monster will usually die before you are able to apply it more than twice. You'd rather just put damage skills in and the monster will die quicker from the same amount of status inflictions.

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>>167264150
>Why do you suffer through it?
It's kind of bittersweet feeling. I was maining Bow, before that GS, but then I switched to HH and boom, it was love at first monster knockout.

>>167263695
Still hosting.

>>167266219
gimme a sec, will join up

what are the hub parameters, doesn't look like it's the same as it says in the OP

>>167265839
>the monster will usually die before you are able to apply it more than twice
Not on faster weapons like SnS, DB or LS.

>>167266636
make sure you search 1-999 and both passworded and in-quest, there are two halls with two people each right now

>>167251578
Why do palico names ever matter? Blacklists shouldnt be filled with "STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE" like a raging loser who cant find friends

>>167266985
So which Pokemon did you name your cat after? Something classic and fitting like Meowth or did you go the edgy cringe route and choose Darkrai?

>>167262208
>just got my ass handed to me by a fucking poisonous dodo
>see this video
One day lads, one day.

>>167267647
I didn't. Stay mad.

>>167267910
If you mean garuga it's the biggest cunt in the whole series imo.

>>167268080
OK so it's Darkrai. Gotcha. I'll add it to the list.

>>167268282
>garuga
that's the one, I'm really bad at remembering monster names and couldn't be arsed to look it up

mhg help me decide what I will main in 3U
So far I've played a lot of IG, DB, SnS, prowler, LBG, SA and Lance. I've played a tiny bit of LS, GS, HBG and HH as well.

>>167268597
LS, GL and Lance are pretty good options because they don't suffer too much underwater.

>>167268597
Play HH. It's arguably the best it's been in 3U, so if you have to use it eventually it might as well be there.

HBG is fun and absolutely destroys everything underwater, but HBG is the best in practically every game anyway. Better to try it in FU where you can bask in the glory of Autoreload.

>>167268392
Yes add "random person on 4chan" to your game blacklist Im sure that'll sate your agnst

>>167267910
I fought garuga once and remember nothing about it, but for monsters I cant beat I get my shit pushed in by molten tigrex every single fight, before that it was akantor but I got vaguely decent at that

>>167268597
If you can main both hammer and hbg you'll have everything perfectly covered and have a great time playing.

>>167269128
Tell me your IGN then and it won't be so random. I bet you're not even over HR500 yet lol and will be too embarrassed to tell.

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>when Energy Blade hit Rajang on the head

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>>167269672
>when energy blade cuts the tail

>>167268919
>>167269113
>>167269469
All sounds reasonable. I'm not a fan of solo gunning because of resources. And how's hammer underwater?

>>167269862
resources are not really a problem unless you are really bad at the weapon.

as long as you hit your shots on proper hitzones, even if you are playing LBG, you will not run out of ammo.

>>167269653
Je m'appelle Aria. Comment vous?

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Are Hyper Silverlos and Goldian gonna get cucked by DLC release again?

>>167270998
The high rank ones will be in village.
The G rank ones will be gated behind DLC.
It never ends, anon.

>>167270998
Save editing has never been easier so the Jap events will just be edited in by everyone.

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>>167270373
Cause toujours, mon gars.

Hostan. Join Fresh Boop

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There is no suffering quite like crown hunting. I wish my autism would allow me to stop so I could do something else.

>>167275148
What are ya huntin' stranga?

>>167276260
>2 crowns left
>spent 2 days hunting snowbaron without results
I'm going crazy.

Anyone else love how the HH feels?

>>167276387
Well now that I'[ve done my quest, Anything you want. Just need zenny now

Gore or Brachy CB for 4U Shagaru?

>>167279263
whichever has higher raw, can't remember.

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>melee since FU
>grinding relics
>after 200 rajangs give up and try to speed up things using HAME
>oh shit HBG/LBG is actually fun
>try bow
>weaponfu.jpg
>can't go back to melee and get tripped by shitters
>used to get my own breaks because you can aim everywhere
>0 fucks about having <300def because you can dodge easier, or just run away
>double smokin sick backhop style
>its a pleasure to use the CPP
>status city
>flying rathian?, mating press that pussy to the ground

I NEED one of these images for bow.

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>>167280417
its funny how long it takes sometimes to find our main weapon.

>tfw you're weaponfu only exists in 3 games and is shit in two of them

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>>167280417
Make it rain?

Unknown Skulls can be found from those bone gathering piles, right? I've always cleared those out but I've yet to get one.

>>167282000
They're just annoyingly uncommon.

Stop wanting it.

>>167262539
Cringe.

Fuck off faggot. Striker CB feels like a gimped soulless MUH DAMAGE faggotry.

Adept is fun as fuck with having access to both guard and dodge.

Go play Dork Souls if you want to minmax.

>>167282156
I need it for muh bone hat so my afro isn't hidden.

>>167282585
Yes, you generally have to choose between effectiveness and flashy bullshit. Welcome to MH.

The optimal way to play CB is to play it as a really clunky and shitty GS. Don't blame me, blame Capcom.

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IF YOU SEE THIS WHILE SCROLLING YOU MUST HOST A TURNS ROOM RIGHT NOW OR YOU MOM DIES IN HER SLEEP

>>167285801
ok

*doesnt host turns room*

take that mom

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>>167285801

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>first capture monster quest
>knock it down with mount
>drop 4 tranq bombs on its head
>later it falls into my ez pit trap
>drop another tranq on its head
>still nothing
how do I capture monsters?

>>167285998
>Put in trap
>2 tranqs

Alternatively, lay down trap and throw tranqs at it as it goes into trap for style.

The effect will wear off as the hunt goes which is why those first 4 didn't make it get cap'd when it went in the trap.

>>167285998
by learning how to read

>>167285998
two tranqs while trapped or a few seconds before trapping when it's below a certain amount of health (afaik if it's limping it's always in that range but the limit for capping and limping aren't always the same)

>>167285998
it has to be limping you double nigger, read the text next time

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>>167286129
It was a guild quest, they didn't tell me shit. Thanks though.

>>167286373
i bet you're the kind of faggot that triple carts.

>gold and silver los in the tower
nope, fuck that shit son.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DAhP6o389E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8IBru9rLOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Xku5_sOOQ

Awesome stuff

MH4U CQ room up. -OO

>>167287932
>Sasuke have a sip of demonbllud to the top left

>>167288023
>CQ

Cancer quest?

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>>167288484
You know it!

>>167287932
>Plesioth's theme

Please steal that Capcom.

>>167287932
>Plesioth's chinese name is Shui Long
He doesn't deserve it

>>167282897
Was it really that hard to edit the CB's KO output compared to gimping its moveset?

>>167288484
More funny than hyper and deviants, btw.

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>>167288023
Come to test your true inner hunter.

>>167289191
haha, good one anon

>>167289513
That must've been one hell of a ride

>>167286920
I needed honey dude, come on.

I wish I could play monhun all day and be good like Canta and Efenbaum

>>167292941
Who?

>run out of tranq bombs
So I'm just fucked, then? I have to give up the quest? The monster's slobbering and shit but I guess it needs some more.

>>167293916
If it's a cap quest you might get some in the box when supplies are dropped.

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>>167293916
If you don't have any more tranqs in the supply box and it's a capture mission, then you are out of luck.

A monster being tired is not the same as a monster limping. It'll only ever take 2 tranq bombs to capture a monster once it's in a trap when it's capture ready.

>>167294285
thanks, guess I'll quit and try again

>>167294318
Kill it! It might be a crown!

>no gen rooms up or full

JUST

Anyone want to do few turns?

So what's the consensus on Hunting Horns that aren't shitters?

And while I'm at it, what about Charge Blades that aren't shitters?

>>167294801
My mother is in the hospital with suspected bowl cancer. Until the biopsy comes back clean I'm too anxious to hunt. Can you wait until then.

>>167294801
I'm cleaning up Deviants for save transfer in X if you want me to make a room

>>167225921
Using a bow right now and dear god I don't know why I've been using duel blades. Bows are fucking amazing. That adept style is savage.

>>167295230
>>167295087

yeah

>>167292941
>Efenbaum still plays MonHun

>>167295463
03-3587-6274-0563
pw rage
MHX, not Gen

>>167295087

Good Luck dude, I mean it.

>>167295650

>X

Cringe

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>>167295650
>MHX, not Gen

Can we get a new monster that doesn't shit giant explosions while running off to the other side of the zone to do it again?

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>finally fucking capture Gyperceros after like 5 attempts
>didn't get unknown skull, the only fucking reason I was doing this

>>167297447
>yfw Deviant Astalos spams the gravity ball attack

@ 167297595

not even gratifying this b8 with a (you)

>>167298326
the database listed Unknown Skull as one of the possible rewards for the quest in which you have to capture one, forgot to specify that

@numberofapost

Umm I believe he was referring to thy number of attempts

>>167299276
I guess I'm shit enough at this game for my blogposts to be considered bait then.

tbqh I envy new players more than anything else

>>167289513
>MASTRLINKX
>PixelEater
fucking trash, stop posting webms trying to make yourself relivent.
no one likes you so trying to force people to like you.

>>167301392
Well, we got a fag, a robot, an edgelord and a frenchie

Where did the good hunters go?

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What SnS are worth making in Gen? Besides Corona and Genprey SnS since I already have those

>>167302779
Alatreon, Hellblade, Thunderlord

>>167302779
Genprey
Hyper Rathalos
Zinogre
Hi Frost Edge
Mizutsune or Master Odyssey
Alatreon or Gore Magala
Hellblade

>>167301392
I think you are alright, anon.

>>167302990
>>167303018
Ok cool, thanks alot

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should i post a room

>>167302295
>good hunters
>/mhg/
joke of the year 2017

>>167304281
Only if it is a "Good Hunters" only room.
I don't want to hunt with all these fags.

Are C. MAGALA weapons any good guys?

>>167306278
Some of them are backed with decent raw and slots, but it's more of a case by case basis.

>>167307282
Hmm, how about the c blade and ig?

>>167306278
Its Charge Blade is pretty good.

I wanna see how crazy its DPS gets if C. Magala comes back in XX. That Frenzy Virus skill is gonna fun to play around with.

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>>167307516
>it plays the Deviant theme instead of its own theme

>>167307814
stop before meme magic makes it a reality

Does HR matter for joining /mhg/ rooms (as in crown)? Also how's the etiquitte, are you all as shitposty in-game as you are here

>>167309627
Not really

The rooms are usually quite chill

Anybody up for HR turns? Getting back into this game after not playing for months, trying out longsword

47-4380-1211-3656

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>>167310061
Forgot to specify this is MHgen

Aside from Switch Axe, what other weapons did Generations ruin?

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>>167311089
Charge blade.

>>167311089
>ruin
Oh I'm sorry, Switch Axe did more than mash Sword mode in other games? I never noticed!

face it, Shit Axe has always been hipster longsword. The only difference is it launches as well as trips

>>167311149
;~;7

>>167311089
>Switch Axe
>ruined
?

>>167311149
I wanna get into 4U charge blade but I remember gen made it kinda shit so I feel like whatever I learn is gonna be wasted time when it comes to finally doing gen/XX

What weapons WEREN'T fucked with too badly? Will XX re-re-balance the less useful styles on all the weapons or are they just throwing in brave and leaving everything else as is

>>167311089
What's a Switch Axe? All i remember vaguely with that weapon name was Reload Sword introduced in Tri

>>167311540
DB's, SnS, LS

>>167311089
While it may not have ruined it, I don't know why they made the GL more complicated than it needs to be

>>167214923
ig got a somewhat small nerf to its mv's. the kinsects got a weird shakeup. the effect extender one got 'nerfed' - the extract time got cut but in exchange it buffs the entire party with 5 attack, 5 defense and 10% affinity as well as heal everyone depending on the extract collected. all igs in the party will also gain the extracts you collect. there's also the speed 1 bug which grants a massive 30% affinity to yourself for collecting white extract

gs got a small nerf to its mvs

sa got a small nerf to its sword mvs but that became irrelevant thanks to demon riot which has got to be one of the dumbest ha's in the game

>>167313527
meant to quote >>167311540

>>167313527
I really like IG in 4U but those changes sound a bit weird, do the GS nerfs matter all that much with how powerful it is already?

>>167313782
there's a case to be made for the extender bug in multi play since you only lose 20% affinity compared to the speed 1 bug in exchange for buffing your whole party and getting 30s extra triple up time

generally the only real difference from 4u is you have to collect extracts more often and you can use the extract hunter ha to mitigate this

gs nerfs don't really matter, it's more about the buffs in gen, that's why duals and lance are in such good spots right now

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>>167313782
>>167313782
It seems to be overall harder to stagger monsters, so I suppose GS is indirectly nerfed in this regard. Which is fair enough, but I wonder how this bodes in G-Rank.

>>167311540
SnS was given oils and excellent arts to play with.
Hammer is back in the upper half of weapon balance and has one of the few fun, non-spammy aerial styles.
The bowguns got internal ammo, a super varied selection of free ammo that is very fun and is good damage if you know how to use it. Careful though, their first person mode got fucked and your shots no longer align with the center of your reticle.

jetpack dragon is best dragon

>>167316149
>dragon

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>>167316687
More of a dragon than Smuag.

>>167314059
>>167315509
>>167316125
If the new styles dont completely change the "meta" I might actually get into SnS or Hammer cause I never play them in 4U, gen's doing a good job tempting me to play before XX
>Careful though, their first person mode got fucked and your shots no longer align with the center of your reticle.
How/Why did they fuck this up? Is bow the same way in its aim mode?

>>167316975
In past games, the PoV was the barrel of the gun, while in this game it's the hunter's eyes. This means that your shots originate below your PoV and move upward to meet the center of your reticle, so it'll be under it at short distances and go over it at long distances. You'll often find your shots miss the mark that was dead on your reticle or even collide with one of the many ledges despite your reticle being cleanly above it.
Why? No other reason than to make gunning feel much clunkier. Bow has no first person mode, so this doesn't happen to it.

Anyone awake? I got a couple crabs to kill, will put room up if this gets a reply

>>167317298
I know bow doesnt have firstperson, I meant its aiming mode but that wasnt touched so good, I wanna try out the bow too when XX comes around.

>>167317782
What game

>>167316823
It's an air-to-air EDW, nerd

>>167317863
Damn I haven't touched a bow since tri. I feel like giving it a go again.

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>>167316823
>moviecuck

>>167317881
>Equal ______ Weapon
Fill the blank.

>>167317990
equal dragon _____

As a solo hunter, between a lance or a gunlance, which is generally going to kill shit more quickly?

>>167318517
The one you are better with.

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>>167317939
That is the joke, yes.

>>167318582
Good point

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>>167318586
And there are dragons in Tolkienverse with only four limbs. Is that part of the joke too?

>>167318517
I never touched GL in my life cause I dont think I'll become proficient with it, but lance is definitely fun. Guard lancing I feel too slow but I do much better at blocking than I do at evading so whatever you choose there's a playstyle that helps you not die as often

>>167318779
This picture triggers me, implying there's a canon scale for dragon size. And Ancalagon has only ever been described as 'as big as a mountain.'
Fuck edgy ooooh-so-mysterious Tolkein lore art.

>>167319583
That scale seems "as big as a mountain" to me.

>>167319815
I wonder why the human has a shield bigger than dragons

>>167319815
>one claw envelops a mountain
That's clearly getting to be elder God territory, and he was just a big ol dragon slain like any other big ol dragon.

>>167319867
I don't quite remember my Silmarillion, but which shield are you talking about? The only shield I remember is by the dwarves that fought Glaurung.

>>167319990
Compare to the human scale on the far left. That's just a rock the dragon is holding on to.

For a second I thought I was on /tg/.

Is Frontier dead? There don't seem to be all that many people playing it. 8000-10000 players online at peak times.

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>>167320238
Still beats when those faggots keep dropping their names here, trying to force themselfs on us as some kind of meme.
looking at this guy and marsterlinkx

>>167320408
Never said it was a bad thing.

I should go back to make my MH homebrew.

>>167287932
I love MHO's vaguely chink spin on a lot of classic motifs. The music in the game is fantastic, it's so bizarre that the sound direction is total trash (assuming they haven't fixed it yet). Music just cuts in and out as monsters enter and leave areas, weapon sounds are super low quality (except the longsword sounds which are pretty solid), there's only two voices and they have the same yell over and over instead of a variety...

What's with the mandrake off to the right? Is that a shakalaka with its mask off?

>>167320445
>MH homebrew.
what are you making? just like and info database?

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>>167319990
>made the entire force of the continent-destroying armies of the gods retreat
>was slain by a super-elf in a flying galleon zipping into it thanks to a gem that disintegrated evil on touch
The answer to overstatements is not to go in the complete opposite direction, anon.

>>167320445
>Roll the D20 to GOTCHA BITCH

>>167320445
Just use Riddle of Steel, it works wonders for MonHun.

>>167320408
This happened to me but with guard+2 lance and doara, infinite aggro and literally no time to sheathe and heal as it kept spamming nonstop tornadoes and landing on me with the black windpress. If I didnt have such good blocking I'd have carted instead of the fucking shitter I was with triple carting

>>167320480
Actually trying to come up with a way to make skills work in D&D (yes I know) and I thought of something similar to how spell charges work. Like you have a set amount of points for your level, and with that you can "buy" skills from different category, Offense, Defense and Utility.
It will also put an emphasis on miniatures so there's no confusion about your position.

>>167320664
I'll look into that.

>>167320408
To be honest, I'm not sure what he could've done to avoid that there.

>>167320737
>how spell charges work
To expand on that, how spell charges recharge after a day and how you gain more the more you level up. You could gain skill points and gain better skills overtime, like AuS slowly working its way up to AuXL and stuff like that.
In D&D terms, you could select your feats using a point pool each day.

>>167320737
>D&D
But why.
And don't say "Because this is all I know" or "This is all my dumbass friends want to play". That's not an excuse.

>>167320815
delay wake up?

>>167313527
>it buffs the entire party with 5 attack, 5 defense and 10% affinity as well as heal everyone depending on the extract collected
It only buffs other IGs, it only heals everyone else.

Also the MV cut is HUGE. It still has the sped up attacks with red buff but iirc the MVs are the same as they were UNBUFFED in 4U.

On the other hand the affinity bug extends just red+white and also gives you 30% (iirc) affinity, plus it's the go-to bug for kinsect only I'm pretty sure, so you really only ever need to make one type of bug if you don't care about bug aesthetics.

IG did get a nerf but a weird one (just as you make it sound) where it also got some buffs, but mainly it dropped several ranks because other weapons got buffed more. That's the bottom line for several weapons really.

And then SnS is a weird case where at first it dominated TAs and it appears to have been buffed the most of any weapon but ultimately it dropped to like #10, whereas it sat pretty at #5-6 for most of 4U's lifespan.

>>167320891
>or "This is all my dumbass friends want to play". That's not an excuse.
That one kinda is though. You can't play tabletops alone. Or I guess technically you can but that's the saddest shit in the world, one step below writing fanfic.

>>167320983
>It only buffs other IGs
No it buffs everyone.

>>167320815
>To be honest, I'm not sure what he could've done to avoid that there.
your kidding right anon? im not even being a 'get gud' dick but there is a fair bit he could of done not to keep getting hit like that.
>using that move when you know tiggy was going to atack
>then dodging early rather then switing to sword mode for the GP block
>getting up straight away when you knew tiggy still had another 2 charges left
>not superman diving when you knew you cant dodge through or far enough from the attack
the only thing he couldnt of known about is the last one where the moved through the map and got hit right away, the rest was because he was trash