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FAQs and General Info
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>Warhammer introduction to MP Lords and Heroes
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To update: Never pick anything other than Morghur as Beastmen.
Necromancer heroes are top pick right now while raise dead is still broken as fuck.

>Empty Steam Groups
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>No Total War News
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If you've been living under a rock these past few months, Shortbrindal is free now.
Waiting for Bretonnia
APPARENTLY NEWS TODAY, ABOUT ONE HOUR AFTER THIS POST TIME
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>Recent
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THREAD FROM THE DARK AGE OF NO NEWS: >>167061869

Why the fuck do the new thread duties keep syncing up with whenever I'm here, you lazy cunts?
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>>167152851
finno-korean hyper war total war when?

>(embed)
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>>167152591
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What new™ features™ is Creative Assembly™ going to give us alongside the FREE™ Bretonnia update™?

What it will NOT be:
Naval Combat
Army Painter
Anything that requires effort on CA's part
Anything we actually want

What it MAY be:
Grail Paths
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>>167152851
Ebin :DD
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>>167152851
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>>167152973
You got me.
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>>167152994

I dunno but I have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed no matter what it is.
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Today is the day!
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>>167152994
Corruption of the Lady!
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>>167152994
A legendary hero system seems like a good bet and that's pretty fine, really.
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sergov failed, they broke through the gates
couldn't hold out.

lost due to 3-4 wild riders capping my vp before I sealed the breach and camping there. couldn't stop them

:(
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>>167153148
Yeah I'd be happy with them myself.
Hardly a new feature but still cool.

Who would we get though?
Green Knight
Krell
Angrund Spooks
?
?
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>>167152994
It's going to be an improved mod manager.
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>>167152851
>Tfw want to hear about the announcement ASAP but too tired to stay awake
Good night /twg/. Hopefully it'll be something good.
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>>167153265
Green Knight seems certain since he's in the promo artwork for bretonnia
Krell might be the Old Friend, and since Kemmler keeps asking about him it would be weird if he didn't turn up
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>>167152994

GATHER ENOUGH FAITH AND A CRUSADING ARMY WILL APPEAR AND FOLLOW YOU AROUND
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>>167153220
>4 stacks of Welfs
Damn son.
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>>167153220
>capping my vp

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=844297728
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>>167152994
a free artbook with a pre-purchase of the Old World
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>no historic tw game for years
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh Rome
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>>167153445
its the green apocolypse, not even my legendary campaigns have been as difficult as this vh middenheim show, the tree tide is nigh unkillable atm, I'm punched in by chaosdoomtides from the north east and the southwest is constant welf armies shitting my way. truly though the welfs are without number.

I just killed birb though, hopefullly if I can defeat chaos I might just have an empire and not a bunch of bushes to return to.

trying to con any faction into welf war(as they are only warrring me) but everyones too scared
sigmar bless this ravaged body
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So in the lore, Krell was destroyed by Sigvlad of all people? What a terrible end.
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>>167152994
the new launcher with """"""better mod support"""""" which will mean jackshit since mod support will sucks balls for the foreseeable future
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>>167154131
>What a terrible end.


In general, yes
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>>167154131
And Sigvald died to a troll.
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>>167154131
>implying a skeleton can be killed
Krell died 3 times IIRC (Krell the Chaos Lord, Nagash's buddy and K&K squad + Nagash 2: Necromantic Boogaloo)
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>>167152994
since it's 4FREE, something everyone wants like Twitter integration
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birdslayer
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Today's reveal will be Nagash
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>>167154517
but he was weak
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>>167154131
Honestly losing to Sigvald isn't that bad. In the game he's trash but CA fucked up his and nearly every other Chaos character's stats.

I mean in comparison to Franz he has beter weapon skill (melee attack/defense), stronger, tougher, nearly double the attacks and will strike first against nearly anything in the game and immune to psychology and regenerates, and etc.

But like everything surrounding the WoC they dun fucked it up for now.
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>>167153115
god tier doujin
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>>167154131
>putting down based Sigvald

Sigvald looks like he belongs in a Korean MMO instead of Warhammer. But in game, he's pretty good. Gets regeneration and starts with a hellcannon.
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>tfw no bretonnia until 28
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>>167154832

i knew it but it still hurts
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>>167154463
>>167154463
battle map editor or krell

these are 2 things we won't get. Although you do have to agree when welfs dropped all battle maps being changed to have a ca watermark would imply that there are non ca watermark maps, eventually. otherwhise its completely redundant.
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>>167153220
I'm sorry anon.
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Maybe they will allow updating without creating a 33gb patch file. Looking forward to 3 games requiring a 99gb patch file, my SSD will handle it fine.
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>>167153265
Engra Deathsword
Valten
Gotrek (or is it the human)
?
?
?
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>>167155289
I can't believe how fucked the load times are without an SSD. yet they somehow managed to make the turn times go 100 times.
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>>167154131
>What a terrible end.
To be fair, Krell was a jobber who dies to any significant character
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>>167155470
SSD is required for this game, but the only way for me to update on it at this point is to have system files and tw:w exclusively on my c: drive.

I am waiting for bretonnia and patch before i reinstall.
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Post your faction theme
Bretonnia https://youtu.be/LgzXwpePTTU
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>>167154832
I wonder if that means

>added to Bretonnia
or
>added to the game together with Bretonnia
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>>167155470
>>167155587
>Not playing the game in fullscreen windowed mode and browse 4chan while it loads, if you don't have a SSD
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>>167155656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNQvLECht08
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>>167155765
>100 times faster*
I was amazed when I first saw how fast the turns went compared to previous games, that's why I have a 2nd monitor that's 10 years old and still works somehow for twg
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>>167154832
It's gonna be a fucking outpost system, isn't it?
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>>167155656
https://youtu.be/tmk3TM2jbe8
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todays reveal will be disappointing
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>>167155656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYkACVDFmeg
>Almost every response so far is Empire.
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>>167155940
like building forts/towers around your territory? I miss that shit from med2
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>>167153220
>>167154041
I'd say that loss was worth it, attrition-wise.

Crank out cheap stacks of swordsmen/shield spearmen and crossbowmen with the armor upgrades and welf armies wither away pretty quickly.
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>>167155425
Jaeger isn't popular enough. He's just the 'narrative and side-kick' to Gotrek. Gotrek himself is just too powerful to be put in game and be constrained by mechanics, even by Warhammer standards.
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>>167155951
I also have another one.
https://youtu.be/OBwS66EBUcY
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>>167156045
>why the mc faction with the most charismatic leader is the most popular

>>167156063
>like building forts/towers around your territory?
Haha. no. It's gonna be a welf mechanic just for every other race.
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>>167156114
>Jaeger isn't popular enough.
Misunderstanding. I was just wondering if the slayer's name was Gotrek.
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>>167155861
That's the age of charlemagne theme.


There is a Gurren Lagann reference in it
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>>167156045
After beastmen, welfs, and other DLC/patches, empire is the most challenging right now when you play on legendary from the basic factions
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>it takes 5 seconds to change the colour of your army when switching on alliance colouring in the options while in battle
>mods can do it easily
>CA will never give us an army painter
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>>167156360
>There is a Gurren Lagann reference in it

which is ?
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>>167155656
Skarsnik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTDa-vG2MQ
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>>167155656

>haha! Time for genocide!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRz26XV4e3Q
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>>167156479
Good choice.
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>>167156465
Guess.
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>>167154832
It better be worth it

We havent had any content in 3 months
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>>167156579
I have absolutely no idea anon, I haven't watched this anime
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Stream is live.
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>>167155951
Huh, didn't know there was a new FE on it's way. And this one looks more old style with characters wearing actual armor.
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>Darren

what we he leak this time
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>mfw haven't got my daily hype dose in forever
>mfw eagerly awaiting their first 'reveal' in what feels like forever
it better be good
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>>167156738
stream is love?

>Darren
fuck yes leak time
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>>167155656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXh4fGo_VdM

Any raider faction.


>>167156664
>don't believe in yourself, believe in me who believes in you

From a general skill description.
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neat
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>Battle map editor

Odds on this never working?
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Fucking maps
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>BATTLE MAP EDITOR!
fucking sad it's only for custom battles but whatever
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>>167154949
quoting again as I was right you bastardo
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New feature is map modding.
Sieges might not be shit.

That's it.
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>>167156738
Can I get a link please?
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>it's a map editor
>>
>battle map editor


I was expecting nothing and I'm still disapointed
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>No Bretonnia

Oh wow, fucking nothing.
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>battle map editor
>only customs

WOW IT'S FUCKING NOTHING
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>>167156849
Sieges will be shit, but perhaps playable on multiplayer
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>>167156854
totalwarofficial on twitch
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>>167156835
Would have been worthwhile if you could add them to the campaign map

But i really dont give a shit about multiplayer
What a waste
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>>167156854
Just fucking google total war stream.

Here is your spoonfeeding:

www.twitchDOTtv/totalwarofficial
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>Darren says no Bretonnia today
>Views drops 75%

kek
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Better than an improved mod manager only.
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>>167156854
totalwarofficial on twitch

>spoonfeeding
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>literally nothing, back to overwatch
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>>167156978
>>167156941
>>167157028
Thanks. I was asking because Twitch freezes up any time I try to search for it, not because I couldn't find it. This page runs like pure crap for me.
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Today was not the day
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>>167157030
What a coincidence, a game that would improve ten times over if only it had a map editor.
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>>167157097
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At least we're getting a konosuba episode today.
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>>167157097
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>CAN'T DO SIEGES

MOTHER FUCKING

DROPPED
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>>167157138
sauce ?
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>>167157097
CA are the masters of a disappointment.
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>no siege map option
it's fucking nothing
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>>167157235
Alice in wonderland
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>>167157181
Oh fuck that's right.
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fucking stronghold had a better map maker. can modders at least put these into singleplayer? I doubt it.
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I stopped fap session for this?
Fuck all
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>>167157354
No, it's the laziest form of "map editor"
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I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed. Hyping surprises should be reserved for exciting things.
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>>167157181
that's the kind of anime when the guy gets transported to a rpg wolrd right ? Is it any good ?

is it lewd?
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>>167157235
go on g.e or ex and search Cheshire cat
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>>167157450
It's funny. The main characters are a fucking mess.
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So with all the buildings and no go zones and such.

Does it mean we can have village battles? They also mentioned walls with propperties that can be destroyed and such. So if there's a map large enough, you can sorta make a siege battle that surrounds the city?
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>>167157450
Yes that is the schtick. It is then a farce of that setting.
It is quite good comedy.
It references being quite lewd but otherwise is not ecchishit.
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>>167157181
Hell yeah dude I'm watching the FUCK out of that tonight.
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>>167157450
Its more about comedy than powerlevels, and its good at it
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Well what do you know, /twg/ is full of weebs
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>map editor
>multiplayer only
And there goes my hope of having a fight in the empire territory without having a forest cove half of the map
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At least we can still play Attila
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>>167157792
Why would they do this
New custom maps in the campaign would have been amazing
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>CA new feature was so lame the discution on /twg/ is more focused on an anime


Nice job CA
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>>167157558
This may be the only good thing in the stream
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>>167157880
Not much to talk about when it comes to map editors anyway.
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>>167157826
>50 shades of barbar that runs like a horse taking a shit
ya, nah

>>167157880
Meh we did more to hype it than they did, maybe down the road with some more features to it all will be great
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>>167157880
Gurren Lagann is great tho
>>
''''''''''February''''''''' update
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>>167158036
>50 shades of barbar that runs like a horse taking a shit
that's what total war has always been about tho
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>>167158062
I trust you on this anon-san
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>>167158062
>tfw finished Gurren Lagann with a friend of mine just a few days ago
>tfw they mentioned a new KonoSuba aired today after I completely forgot
It's like the Twilight Zone in here. If someone mentions Inuyasha I'm going back to sleep.
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>>167155656

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ckR822Wu4k
>Apaches, Med 2 America.
>Strengthening the tribe into mighty warriors through war.
>Traversing the plains
>learning to use horse
>learning to use guns
>Sending the Euro barbarians back to their shitty plague infested lands.


I'm 90% certain it's the same "choir" they used for Americas campaign.
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>you can change colours on the map

Chaos dwarf themed karak hype boys.
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>>167157880
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SKAVEN CRACK BOYS
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>>167158294
Nice thumbnail
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>>167158152
Maybe, I spent a lot of time on Atilla, I tried desperately to like Atilla, played all the DLC, nearly every faction but in the end just went back to playing S2 Arr Rooka Same featuring dirt-mount sieges and R2 EE
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>>167158294
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>have to wait until the end of the fucking month for the update
>high chance it will get delayed anyway
>will probably get fuck all news between now and then
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>>167158294
don't be tsundere anon-kun
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Rubber ducks confirmed boys.
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>IT'S LITERALLY NOTHING

back to LongWar2
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>>167158474
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>>167157870


Probably not to fuck with sales of later DLC map packs and such.
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>>167158379
Saw that as well, I guess this confirms the second expansion's four races (High Elves, Dark Elves, Lizardmen and Skaven).

Tomb Kings to be dlc in the second game I would guess.
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anyone find the colonizing option of razed settlement too penalizing? the greater your army, the more it costs, you lose more troops colonizing an razed settlement in the middle of nowhere than sieging altdorf.
IMO colonizing should give a growth penalty, like the public order penalty for military conquest. this way you woudn't fuck up your army for 5 turns just because you wanted to take over a settlement
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Africa confirmed.

HONKIES BTFO.
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>>167158379
>>167158657
>>167158505


>Darren literally can't stop leaking shit

THE ABSOLUTE MAD MAN CAN ANYONE STOP HIM?
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stop playing fantasy shit
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We actually got something huge and the people is just bitching.
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>>167158810
It's not really a leak though, skaven are even mentionned in game

Also it's pretty clear by that point that all those "leaks" were intentional
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>>167158657

>tfw it probably won't be until next year that I will be playing as the tomb kangz
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>>167158861
it's worthless until they implement the ability to make siege maps, as well as campaign implementation
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>>167155656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQYJxbkEItQ
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>>167158861
We *could* have gotten something huge

Like an option to make playable sieges
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>>167158952


>le egyptian skellyman meme faction

good, i'd rather have thems pend time on actual cool factions
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>>167159384
Such as?
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that bretonnia map so fine.
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>>167158837
but history is boring
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>>167159384
this, we already have token undead faction
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>>167159516
Running out of options then. We've already got one token elf faction.
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>>167159403


literally anyone else except maybe chaos dorfs
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These settlement maps can be great if modders work on them. Also, bridge maps for the win. I would love seeing Minotaurs charging across a bridge against peasants or something.

>>167158952
They will come some day. Hopefully Araby is with them as well.
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>features that were stripped from the game now introduced as "new content"
>everyone praising CA
Must be easy being a dev, can just cuck people all day and get paid for doing so
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>>167159640
Both other elf factions are more boring, except dark elf monsters.
Lizards are the most cool, ogres and skaven are more cool yeah.
Daemons are boring.
Chaos stunties don't exist.
KANGZ are about middle of the road for what we have left.
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>>167159710
It's the toolkit we are cheering you mong.
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>>167159758


Dark and high elves are as different to wood elves as Kislev and Brets are to Empire, they have more variety. Tomb keks are just egyptified generic undeads.
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>>167159516
We already have the token human faction
No need for Bretonnia!
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>>167160004
Yeah constructs do not exist. You're right my friend.
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>you will never be autistic enough to tryhard with wood elves against a CA dev on a stream
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Darren stated that Bretonnia news will be in the middle of February and will be released at the end of February.

So 13-15th of February for news with release date being on the 28th?
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>>167160185
that's not even tryhard, Darren is just bad
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>>167160216
Make War not Love starts on the 14th, so it will probably be announced then. Maybe if we win, we'll get Bretonnia a weak early or something.
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>>167160185
You could win against darren using goblins only army
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>>167160285
>Maybe if we win
lol
>we'll get Bretonnia a weak early or something.
LOL
>>
Literally goblin stalingrad.
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>>167160285
>implying it wont be rigged again
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>>167160285
Oh boy, I can't wait to hear what the conditions are this time.
>Company of Heroes players score 1 point for every minute the game is running
>Total War players score 1 point for each legendary campaign completed
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>>167160362
>playing coh2 before the balance patch gets released.
SMh TBh FaM
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>>167160362
I can't think of any other reason they would be holding back on the release date, and they will have finished with Bretonnia long before the patch because they are shipping it on a physical copy.
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>>167160425
Anyone still gets that screencaps when CoH2 in one round had 140% points and TW was at -40%?
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Well that stream was poo poo, cant believe I watched the whole thing.
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>>167160624
if people use the battle map editor we will get campaign battle map editor

anon this is a long road but if we persevere we will be able to make better siege maps
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>>167160723

>someone in /twg/ actually believes this
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>>167158861
Huge maybe for 5% of the playerbase that bothers with MP.
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>>167160985
Nah custom maps don't matter for MP so much because most people playing MP do quick battle.
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>>167152851
>http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)

is this some hot new meme or are people really this retarded?
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So how the fuck do I tilt my camera in this map editor.
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>>167161121
It's a very old meme
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>>167161121
>[embed][embed]
>new

Its older than gook fappic
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>>167161121
People have been doing that for a long ass time, fella. Try not to be so new.
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>>167161121
it's a stale old meme newfriend
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What are the best "hold the line" infantry in Wamhams? Ironbreakers?
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>>167161220

Found it, alt + mmb if anyone else is interested.
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>>167161121

>is this some hot new meme
>"new"

The only thing that's new here is you
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>>167161383
They're supposed to be, yeah.
Vanilla Chosen and Black Orcs probably are up there as well.
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Now if only we could import assets :(
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>>167160909
>>167160909
>>167160985
>>167161061


this one is for all of you, fresh off the battle map editor.
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>>167161383
I also like tomb guards and faggelants
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>>167161383
Vanilla Chosen and Ironbreakers, the rest don't have THAT much of a staying power.
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Wait a minute.
I've got it now
>+35 new maps

they'll just tack on
>MADE BY THE COMMUNITY

Oh CA.

make a river crossing
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>>167160071

>unique skellyman faction unit
>its a bunch of skellymans put together/enlarged

would be awesome if human and elf factions had this same trend

Reikland BIG GUYS

LARGER THAN NORMAL ELVES OF ATHEL LOREN

Dark Elf soldier guys with MULTIPLE ARMS

Tomb Keks are a hack meme faction get over it.
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>>167161768
I'm not sure what you're trying to convey here.
I already conceded that you are correct.
Of course now you are more correct than ever before, but that isn't really necessary.
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>>167161503
Far too many chockpoints for a Total Warhammer battlefield. 2/10.
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>>167161768
Perhaps he was wondering why can't they add more variety, instead of bitching about memes on the forums.
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>>167161121
This meme is ancient
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>>167160909
Ougi is literally based
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>>167162170
>a trap
>based
Bat is based, ougi is mediocre.
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Why are CA making bridge defence battles progressively shitter?

They were serious rape in ME2 and never to be taken lightly.
They were never really capitalised on by the AI in Shogun2 and always had alternate ways over the bridge.
They're just a disadvantage in Rome 2/Attila bc the enemy can see where you've deployed so just deploy at the other crossing if you've stacked all your men onto a single crossing. If you split your men you get bummed anyway since they'll concentrate on the weaker bridge and get them out before you can reinforce whit the guys from the other bridge
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>>167162478
Kisshot < Snail
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>>167162695
>literal perfection worse than a loli
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>>167162803
Snail is based, I didn't say she's sexy
Are you retarded enough to think being pure sex automatically makes you based? And fuck's sake Kisshot is usually a loli
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>>167162851
kisshot has top-tier banter on top of being a perfection in all forms and overall is a better character.
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>>167162803
>>167162851
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>>167161121
OFFICIAL /TWG/ TOTAL WAR GAMES POWER RANKINGS* (As of February 1st, 2017) (All patches and mods taken into consideration)

1. Medieval 2 & Kingdoms
2. Napoleon
3. Shogun 2 FotS
4. Shogun 2
5. Age of Charlemagne
6. Attila
7. Rome 1 and BI
8. Empire
9. Rome 2
10. Warhammer (fantasy tripe)
11. Alexander

*All rankings are final, any post of power rankings that follow this official list should be deemed unofficial and not representative of /twg/ and its community
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>>167162978
well okay, obviously we just have different tastes
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>>167163078
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>>167163096
Remember, I will keep my eyes on you.
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>the new feature is some garbage no one cares about
>Bretonnia at the fucking -end- of Feb

whelp CA disappoints again
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>>167163078
I agree with this
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>>167163078
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>>167163078
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>>167163078
>Atilla over Rome
>Atilla over anything
Yeah, no.
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>>167163508
Attila is one of the best in the series.
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Real (non-faggot) rankings:

1.) Total War: Attila
2.) Total War: Shogun 2
3.) Total War: Warhammer
4.) Total War: Empire
5.) Total War: Medieval 2
6.) Total War: Rome 2
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>>167163508
>having such shit taste

yeah, no, faggot
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God Tier:
Shogun 2, Tilla, first Rome

Good Tier:
Napoopan, first Medieval

Meh Tier:
Medieval 2, Rome 2 (after patches)

Bad Tier:
Empire

Reddit Tier:
Warhammer

Haven't played the first shogun game
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CA is the manipulative and abusive lover and we're the abused victim that keeps falling for it
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>Liberate Aachen as Westphalia to create the Duchy of Frisia, they become my allied cuck for the game
>Surround it with pagan shrines to give osmosis, put an extra priest there too
>Check the town, it has an abby and is remaining Christian

Stop building Churches
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>>167163257
>expecting any better
Pic related, the solid cube is your hopes and dreams, the metal slime is CA
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>>167163718
This is true.
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Skolder guards should have been regular units
They are fun to use
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>tfw EVERY time a dlc has been released i've been busy the weekend of it's release

>tfw brettonia the one dlc i've actually been looking forward too is released at the ass end of february and i won't have access to a computer for almost all of march
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>>167163078
SENATVS POPVLESQVE ROMANVS tier:
Europa Barbarorum

Good tier:
Attila
Napoopan
Third Age: Total War
Medieval 2 unmodded

Okay:
EB2
Age of Charlemagne
Shogun 2
Warhammer (it's not tripe, WHFB was quite influential and original in its day m8)

Meh/Nostalgia tier:
Rome 1 unmodded
Empire
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need to roll
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>>167165571
Don't worry mate, it's not going to be released on time. I doubt we will see it before april.
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So...all you get is map editing? This is the result of the nonstop hype? Good lord.
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>>167166191
No. People just thought Bretonnia stuff would be announced.
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>>167165892
roll
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>>167166191
welcome to total war
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>>167165892
rollan
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>>167166191
>Tune into our livestream tomorrow to find out about a brand new feature we’re giving you for free alongside Bretonnia, to celebrate the release of the Old World Edition
>We’ll be streaming tomorrow (1 February) at 3PM GMT – right here

People ignored "alongside" and hoped for bretonnia news
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>>167164886
This anon gets Total War, but I'm a fantasyfag so I'd bump Warhammer up.
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>>167163078
>Shogun 2 above Attila
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Which total war has the WORST victory conditions?
I say Rome 2 a.k.a "no matter which faction you are, you need to conquer the roman peninsula"
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Uh, so I saw you guys shittalking the best faction in Warhammer Fantasy and I decided to rub your noses in what's sure to come and you can't do anything about it.
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daily reminder
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>>167166941
Med 2
>everyone should take Jerusalem
>No matter that its one of the 3 Holy Muslim Cities and belongs to the arabs since ever
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>>167166941
attila are pretty shit too
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>>167167140
Well the whole game is pretty shit so that is no surprise really.
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>>167158270
so boring to fight other indians
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>release battle map editor
>can't edit siege battles, the only type of battle that desperately needs variety

fucking useless. Can't wait to see all the ebin Thermopylae dwarf chokepoint mountain defenses /s.

>>167166941
some of attila's are bad, especially for the great migrators - Alans have to own both sarmatia and a province in france just for a minor victory. Rome 2 also had the non-sensical culture victories that required taking random provinces like pannonia
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>>167166941
>you need to have peninsula' owners allied
fixed
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When we gonna be able to play Total War with Grush?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64TbMz-hA3w

Look at that guys , the future but today.

I would love to do some hammer and anvil with that.
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>>167166961
Flying bulls
Whats the other flyer
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>>167167213
Why so angry? Did Attila cuck you?
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>>167156752
It's a Fire Emblem Gaiden remake that will be released in May. People will now see that Alm was Ike before Ike ever existed.
https://youtu.be/43vOzD7EjrA
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>>167167447
>Let's promise we'll never end up like that.

So I take it the plot is about one of them becoming the villain?
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why is warhammer objectively the best TW game ever made despite not been historical? I suppose they learnt a lot from Rome 2 and Atilla but it's an insult to the entire franchise that the best game by far is fantasy.
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>>167160285
>tfw own all 3 games so i win no matter what
HUEHUEHEUHEUHEUHUEHUEHUE
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>>167167078
>More support than Bretonnia
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The strength bar on the campaign map puts it heavily in their favour with all their Chosen swordsmen spam, and if I lose then this campaign is over!

Grant me some carpet making ability /twg/! AHHHHHHHHH!
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>>167167361
>>167167361
The Lammasu, who was a level 1 lore of shadow spellcaster on TT, as well as having a magic-negating aura. Also, the bull has a fiery breath attack and a fiery hide rule that damages melee attackers.

Is there anything Chorfs CAN'T do?
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>>167167447
>Our continent of Valentia
Oh boy. I live in Valencia.
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>>167167602
Hot opinions
Really, the most annoying thing about it is that it's going to take a lot of time and money for it to actually be complete
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>>167167669
>Is there anything Chorfs CAN'T do?
getting an armybook :^)
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The fuck are these Saxon units in Attila, Nordic Band has 5 melee attack and a single shot of ammunition. The brigands have 4, like how are you supposed to use these.
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this fucking nips face
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>>167167654
Carpets!
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>>167168009
You don't. You take your pikemen, your saxon spears for the flanks, your dogs for any offense and you try to rush the fuck out into the higher tiers.
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>>167168128
It worked!
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>>167167602
>why is warhammer objectively the best TW game ever made despite not been historical?

Because Warhammer had 30 years of development behind it and was at least varied and well integrated in regards to fantastic unit types and heroes, if not well balanced in a specific sense, unit by unit.
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>>167167764
they still have 5 guys in the basement brainstorming on a future historical TW game
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>>167168217
The resulting carpet
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>>167166941
RTW 1 has the same shit.
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>I cannot keep paying the troll toll
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>>167168507
That's not a carpet. not even a chinese made venetian rug. they're meant to look like a where's waldo picture.
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>>167168159
I'm already dead. I think it might be a better idea to sell everything and move everyone to the british isles.

How do you turn into a horde, I can't find it.
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>>167169596
Faction summary screen. Or just abandon the settlement. It's also something I tend to do with saxons as well, just burn it down and move to Britain.
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>>167167225
Apache campaign was the first medieval 2 one I have ever rage quit. I took the chichimeca cities with gold mines and they were instantly destroyed. Apparently Apache are too brain dead to use a mine. I needed the gold to pay for my swarms of terrible high end Apache units
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BRETONNIA WHEN
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>>167165892
lolin
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>>167170289
This month bruv
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>>167166941
All victory conditions are shit. I'm not here to "win" the game.

I just want to establish muh empire then watch it slowly crumble and give way to other empires.
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>>167166961
>best faction
>not Tomb Kings
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>>167166961
>Chaos Stunties
>best faction

I'd tell you to say it to my face but that may be a problem, stuntie trash.
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>>167166961
Wot's all dis then?
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>>167167097
Very clever
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>ywn pillage a settlement with your pagan bros
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So there was nothing of note in the announcement?
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>>167172975
no
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>>167173061
Thanks CA, week after week of disappointment.

The old world edition best feel like a new game.
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>>167169962
Haven't played apache campaign since i've conquered new spain in the very beginning
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>>167173132
The only one making you disappointment is yourself. Stop expecting things that were never even mentioned.
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>>167163257
>-end- of Feb
source?
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>People are disappointed with more mod tools.

This is only a good thing. Also a bit of love for multiplayer isn't bad at all.
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>>167165892
Gimme somethin good
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>Decided to finally try out some Warhammer mods
>Lets try Kraka Drak
>Fully functional faction with custom units and an appearance overhaul

Shieet are there any more mods this fleshed out?
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>>167173132
>The old world edition best feel like a new game.
wat. it's not that at all.
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>>167174317
Check out that guy's other mods. He has a Southern Realms mod of similar quality with Tilea, Estalia and the Border Princes.
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>>167173132
Wat? It's just a bundle of all the DLC and the base game. With some free DLC like Bretonnia tacked on. WHy would you expect anything else?
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>>167171929
saxon units in Attila are some of the best looking units in tw series
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>>167174513
It's not a DLC bundle, it's just a re-release of the old game that gives you a novella if you happen to get the physical version.
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>>167174321
>>167174513
I was expecting re balance of units and old lords, as well as new factions (middenheim + 2 bretonnia factions) maybe legendary heroes.

That is enough to revitalize the game
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>>167174668
t. saxon filth
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>>167174447
some of the Estalia generals I've seen have goblin archer portraits but apart from that top mod
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>>167174513
it's not...

it's just the base game + a novella
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>>167174738
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_Warhammer_Editions_FAQ#What_are_the_differences_between_these_editions.3F

>What will existing players get? If you already own Total War: WARHAMMER, your game will be updated, and you will see the Bretonnia Race Pack available for free download in the Steam store. However, ‘The Prince of Altdorf’ novella is only available with physical copies of the game.
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THE DWARFS NEED ME
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>>167174941
o that's a shame. I bet they got a top notch author for that too. the Gotrek and Felix books were fun
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>>167156664
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>>167175816
Attila grand campaign has a bane reference too
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These barbarians take me for Mexico apparently. I would love to culturally enrich them right now but fucking hell I have no money and still need to convert 4 minor settlements.
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>>167175918
Bane?
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>>167174941
What about Mousilion and Middenheim?
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>>167176059
They probably come later, if at all. They're after bretonnia on the timeline
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>>167176059
there's mods for that, more indepth than CA will put into them
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>>167171929
>Start saxon campaign.
>Pack up and leave for Britain.
>Abuse the fuck out of early pikemen to conquer the Isles.
>Proceed to send raiding fleets across the world to sack distant ports.
>mfw those garamantians never knew what hit them

Best campaign or best campaign?
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>>167176247
Mods are never as good as official content, modders cant make new model or functional campaigns.

>>167176138
I thought this was the final update for the game and we would be getting it all this month, maybe not then.
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>>167176446
There's a great reskin that makes all the VC units for Mousilion look like Brets undead, and it actually looks really well done. Plus also the mod fleshing out the living/undead army of Mousilion along with the Red Duke.
And If I've learnt anything over the last 10 years it's that modders usually produce better content than CA. CA just provide the pizza base while modders put on all the toppings.
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>>167176446
we only known that there won't be any other DLC as big as Wood Elves until next game
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>>167176820
Hi Radious.
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>>167176820
that mod is made by an anon on /twg/ isn't it?
> modders usually produce better content than CA.
modders usually produce better content in general. they should just make their own games, yo.
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>>167177049
I've never enjoyed a single radious mod
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>>167176820
I dont think you can complete the campaign, and it has no balance you just steam roll because no one wars you.
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>>167177143
Would you say Radious is the Pepperoni of Pizza Toppings?
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What's the best army composition for the Empire?

They seem weak as fuck against anybody except for Vampire cunt zombie and skellington stacks
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Manlings...
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>>167177234
if Radious owned a pizza shop he'd only sell cheese pizza's
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>>167177289
Why does everyone fucking ask this? It's so fucking obvious.

1-4 GREATSWORDS
1-4 MISSILES
1-2 ARTILLERY
THE REST
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>>167175925
sasanaigh amach

AMACH
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>>167177318
>4 (FOUR) fucking Hammerers
>no artillery
The absolute maddorf.
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>>167177362
But mods are free...
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>>167177518
>free pizza
wtf I love Radious now!
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>>167177198
>you just steam roll
actually?
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>Animated unit portraits in Total Warhammer eat FPS like a negro eat a cheating wife
What were they thinking on that one?
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>Is anymore DLC coming for Total War: WARHAMMER?
Yes, our next major DLC expansion, and the next Free-LC is due before Christmas. It is growing now, there will be more news soon.

WTF ?
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>>167177896
mines growing too
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>>167177362

>if Radious owned a pizza shop he'd only sell cheese pizza's

Has the true face of Radious been revealed?
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Are there no snow covered trees? I want to make a comfy snow map.
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>>167175964
now is not time for fear, that comes later
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>>167176420
>not taking over the isles in the middle of the mediteranean as your raiding base
isulae occidentalis, insulae orientalis and magna grecia are great due to the central position
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>>167168507
I AM SERIOUSLY HANGING BY A THREAD, FUCKING EVERYONE DECLARED WAR ON ME FROM ALL SIDES
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>>167178217
Yeah, they have access to a lot more shit, but that in turn means a lot more shit has access to you, so you don't have the hilariousness of raiding someone that's across the whole map with them not knowing how to respond because not only do they not know where your settlements are, but they also can't cover the whole fucking distance.

Though now I feel like trying it out as well.
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>>167178350
>The spear men
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>>167177398
Regardless of being salty, thanks.
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>>167178350
Every single one of these did the declaring of war, one on one I'd have beaten all of them back but I could never get a strategy to play on my tactical wins
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I feel like an idiot.
What the hell am I doing wrong?
>Installed Kraka Drak mod
>check to see if I clicked it when starting TW:W
>game launches, cant play as Kraka Drak.
am I missing something?
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>>167179234
It is custom battles/mp only. You need a faction unlocker mod to play them in campaign.
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>>167179321
aah thanks
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>>167178762
The Scythians came in but bizarrely they were kind enough to only sack the settlement, the Getae hang on in an Attila style migration but without the horde mechanic. I need to find somewhere were everyone won't always be trying to murder me from all directions and somewhere that has walls
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>>167177143
Then you never experienced the time when radious was actually good
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>>167179908
>Shogun 2
loved those Naginata Mounted Ninjas
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>>167179908
Hello Radious.
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>>167179517
Another do or die battle, hopefully enough men survive to take the city next turn
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>>167179908
Radious removed the banners from the soldiers in his mod for Shogun 2, literal shit-tier.
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G O B L I N S
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>>167180771
what about them
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>>167180771
worst meme ever
when did we get from pontus to this?
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>>167180251
So much horse fuckery..
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Were there settlement battles in the works that got scrapped? I don't remember ever seeing any of these Norscan assets in the 400 hours I've played.
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>>167181110
Hopefully I still have enough for the city because the Scythians are hot on my trail
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>>167177289
I usually have six halberdiers, four handgunners, two demigryph knights (halberds), three greatswords, and four cannons. It's a pretty safe, cookie-cutter build, but it gets the job done.
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>>167181578
how useful do you find that arty to be?
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>>167177737
Yes actually.

No one will declare war on you, and you can take each Bretonnian kingdom out with no retaliation.
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>>167156823
Is that a pitch shifted bagpipe?
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>>167182074
It's extremely effective vs big horses and I've fought a shitload of those, often it's my most killing unit if you don't count running down routers with horses.

Also, if the enemy doesn't have any weapons and you do the AI will always come onto the attack because they know you can outrange them, so just by being there it gives me the defensive advantage
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>>167182885
Got the city, might hold up for a bit to earn some dosh and wipe out the Sythians that are following me
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>>167181049
>Pontus
>a better meme than G O B L I N S

Anon your shit taste is showing
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>>167181861
Nice. Do you leave big gaps in your line for all the handgunners & cannons to shoot thru, or something more creative perhaps??
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>>167181505
Never seen them in game myself and They look unfinished so yeah probably scrapped.
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>>167181505

probably scrapped or a model designed to be way off in the distance
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>>167181505

That looks like something on the campaign map itself
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>Break down and buy wood elves
>Other welves are stubborn as fuck and wont even form alliances with me
How do those cheeky fucks do it so quickly
They arent condemning me for anything
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>>167184494

You're the kang in the woodz, make them like you.
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>>167184494
The AI simply cheats, that is all there is to it. You can't confed anyways until you upgrade the Oak, AI doesn't give a fuck.
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>>167184494

As soon as you upgrade the oak to the required level to confederate they will automatically accept confederation, even if they hate your guts.
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>>167184494
I just conquered the other welves desu
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>>167184494
The AI doesn't need to use amber so it can just fast upgrade the Oak and once you have that past level 3 you can confederate. Mix that with that fact the AI gets relationship bonuses with it's own faction. That and there's apparently a bug with Welfs and confederation so they don't get the 15 turn delay before they can do it again so they can just confederate turn after turn.

It's kind of crazy how this shit works.
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>>167183447
Usually I'll keep the cannons back with the demigryphs. My handgunners are usually out front until the enemy is close. At that point, I pull the gunners behind my infantry line and move them out to the sides.
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>>167184691
I got my oak to t3 and those fucks wont even sign a non aggression. playing as the big D tree though.
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Where were you when CA killed Warhammer ?
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>>167163078
I will never understand why people love Napoleon
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>>167185519
How does one kill that which is already dead?
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>>167185519
It's a neat feature that's gimped by being MP only. I'm also concerned that the editor will pave the way for some Valve-like exploitation of the community.
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>>167185572
With LME it's easily the best warscape TW
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>>167186238
Like what? I'm curious where you are going with that statement. This isn't Darren btw either
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>>167185519
How does that kill Warhammer?
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how long before Stream ?
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>>167187220
Exploitation is probably too heavy a word. But as a TF2 player, I'm just anxious about any sort of community support beyond modding. The idea of custom battlefields is itself innocuous and good, but I'm worried that it might lead to more and more support/development derived from the community.
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>>167186238
I don't think they'd go that far, they're still going to have to make new maps especially for any new areas/with DLC's. They have to put that mapping team to work on something.

I also think the lack of campaign support is just because they haven't worked out a way of separating the battles maps from he campaign, editor wise I mean. They probably don't want or can't let people fuck with the campaign map but don't mind about battle maps?
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>>167188137
It already happened man, was a few hours ago.
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>>167180085
>>167180550
Reminder: early S2.

Only by around Mid-S2 (after RoTS, before FoTS) he started to work for the lowest common denominators of gamers with shit taste.
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>>167188568
so what where the announcements ?
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>>167188418
>Make campaign map mods
>Your factions starting regions have maps that look like a square wave where defenders are on high ground inaccessible to aside from deployment
>Or maybe have attacker deployment be a contained bowl or valley they can get out of

Immortal campaigns

Just what the shitters need, more cheat mods
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>>167188418
Yeah, I don't foresee a shift to community support any time soon. My feeling in that regard is mostly a knee-jerk reaction. And I'm not saying that they don't have valid reasons for MP only, but it's a pretty major restriction for such a unique feature. It really deflates the feature's relevance and overall usage.
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So which factions can they add to the New World? I know that Skaven, Lizardmen, Dark Elves, and High Elves will definitely be in, plus Chaos. But where can they go from there? What sort of "secondary" factions (such as Beastmen or Bretonnia) could reasonably be added? I've always thought that the New World didn't have a diversity of factions, but I'm not a big Warhammer lorefag.
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>>167188715
They're updating the creative kit so you can make custom maps. But for now they're multiplayer only and no siege battles.

That was kind of it really, the rest was just reconfirming old info.
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What if AE just is not enjoyable? What if it suffers from the same EB2 syndrome? What then?
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This week beat a Shogun 2 campaign as Oda, and a Attila campaign as Alans.

What game should i play next, only title i dont own is Empire and Napapoon.
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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

I was in class. I know that they wouldn't "announce" Bretonnia, but did they do anything GOOD today?
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Ghorgons for beastmen fucking when? I want this four armed horned giant terror machine.
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>>167188929
No I agree, like it's nice to have it how but the fact it's multiplayer only in a mostly single player game feels like a waste? I just hope it's just a first step and we'll get more support down the line.

And honestly companies sifting to community support has been happening a lot so it is a very real worry with games these days.
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>>167190394
Map editor.
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>>167190394

Map maker for custom battles. No campaign map editor, no quick battle map editor. Complete disappointment.
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>>167190185
Well the New World has some Empire (Tilea/Estalia) outposts. There would be Orcs for sure, mostly savage tribes. Beastmen as well because they're just everywhere.

That's mostly it though, unless you start getting int the background super minor factions like Amazons and Pygmies
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>>167181049
What's a Pontus meme
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>>167190839
>>167190940
Oh...

Sorry, looks like I'm still doing this Bretonnia posting under the end of Feb, then.
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>>167191184
It's ok, I like Brettonia.

;_;
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>>167190185
>>167191037
like anon just said , if after that they expand South of the old world its the tomb Kings , arab humans , if i remember right most of Southland is just beastmens , then east you have chaos dwarfs , ogres kingdom , chinese , japanese and indians humans
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>>167191182
Pontus itself is a meme.
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>>167175925
wtf? Did the Celts never went down to Roman Britain or something?
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>>167190250

Wait for Rome 3
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>>167191346
There is also a small group of Lizardmen and dwarfs way down the Tomb Kings way.

Think like Kraka Drak levels of "Oh hey we're out in the middle of nowhere"
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>>167191887
i think its that place yeah
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>>167192038
Yeah alone those mountains plus the lands right of there are basically jungle/swamp which is where the lizards are hold up.
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Chaos have my favorite roster, lots of diversity and heavy hitting infantry feels like im using an army of Oathsworn.

Its just a shame their campaign is not very fun, is there any mods that make it a bit more fun?

Maybe something that allows more hordes, and less growth problems.
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>>167192761
>allows more hordes, and less growth problems.
See
>heavy hitting infantry feels like im using an army of Oathsworn.
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>grow up in frisia
>its a time of peace as his kin resettle the barren lands in the east
>nothing to do but herd sheep and feast in the lords greathall
>everyone raised on tales told by greybeards, of the honor and bravery of Saxon warriors during the great wars against the Hun
>his fallen father had been famous warrior and was in valhalla now
>mother wont let him forget about it, says he is odin-favoured like his dad
>go along with it but really like relaxing in the countryside with his pupper and flock of sheep
>out of nowhere the celtic Jutes raid Belgica from their territory in Britain
>there will be war
>saxon warlords flood northwards to raid, hungry for glory and silver
>local ealdorman decides to go and have to go as part of his levy
>say goodbye to mum and promise to be a famous warrior like father
>meet qt saxon gf Hild in their special place under an oak tree, kiss her goodbye
>she promises to wait
>feet hurt but at least lots of my friends have come and we can laugh about it together
>have to go on boat
>its cold and rains all the time
>subconciously wishes he was back herding sheep and feasting with Hild
>all the other warriors are excited, they say there is going to be battle
>some place called London
>king brought catapults and everyone is excited to watch
>they rain fire down on the city and destroy the defenses, its pretty cool but he still finds himself daydreaming of home
>time to attack and the king himself bravely leads the way with his hearthmen
>least he has fathers old chainmail and helmet
>only had a spear so got to avoid fighting in the front of the shieldwall
>follow the slaughter over the walls and into the streets
>tired but at least hes survived and didnt have to kill anyone
>suddenly his legs feel weak and his sword and shield too heavy to hold
>he collapses, an arrow in his chest
>his friends leave him to take the tower that someone had forgot to click on
>his last thoughts are of Hild, waiting for him beneath their oak tree
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>>167192761
When I play Chaos, I usually use http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=785747468
It increases growth, and how much money the main building gives, in addition to making most buildings reduce upkeep on relevant units.. On the other hand, it buffs the resource buildings in settlements like crazy. It might have what you're looking for.
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>>167192761

I hope they redo the campaign entirely honestly.

>Raze and Sack combined into one
>Block Army being available to all heroes from the get go
>Awakening immediately vassalizes the tribe
>Remove horde infighting. Dumbest fucking thing in the game
>If they ever add Fortification stance, Chaos should get it.
>More replenishment from encamp stance, less reliance on disbanding units and recruiting replacements
>Remove Tribes of Chaos skill and add base growth to each building or something.
>More Chaos corruption from destroying stuff, less from just being in the province
>Make raiding give more income. Same problem as hordes in Attila - you make more in encamp stance than raiding which is fucking stupid and makes it a pointless mechanic outside of inciting rebellions which isn't a problem for chaos anyway


The whole campaign should encompass the end of the world but it feels nothing more than playing chicken with armies that don't want to fight unless they outnumber you 2:1 and running into settlements for the garrison army. Nothing in the Chaos campaign has ever made me feel like the herald of the end times.
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>>167193975
Raze and Sack combined into one

This is almost a necessity, it takes double the time to win because of this and forces you to have small armies because the game slows to a halt.
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>>167193975
There was a mod that combined raze and sack into one. Sadly it's not been updated lately.
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how do you go from this
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>>167193556
It's kind of an horrifying thought when you look at a carpet and realize literally every single one of the corpses in it had a father, a mother, a home and people waiting for them in it, as well as a chance at a nice, peaceful life.
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>>167195251
>halberd

Different weapons would have been cool
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>>167195251
To this?
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Should a hero whose main job will be to protect Gelts ass from other lords and heroes focus on armor, melee defense or melee attack? Or does it even matter that much?
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>>167195654
Standardization
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>>167195878
Armor is the best out of those 4, charge is the second best.
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And I think to myself...
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about to start a campaign as epyrus

any tips ?
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>>167197007
Worst campaign in Rome 2
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>>167197170
i did the roll chart , i ended up on them
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>>167197258
Good luck, hardest faction in the game.

Royal Peltasts are one of the best units in the game, i would ignore their axe infantry and just spam hoplites and cav.

Everyone on the map will declare war on you by turn 10, so best tactic is to start building up armies complete a province then hold out till they lose their armies or try and out maneuver them.
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>>167197007
Don't invade Crete.
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>>167198404
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>>167198404
well i dont plan on it anyway

right now im at war with athen , sparta and syracus and macedon have become my allies somehow
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>wome
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>>167198553
rip epirian army
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>>167198553
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>>167198701
I managed to get my revenge later in a second invasion. Their elite archers and other skirmishers became mine then.
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>>167198883
>cretan pirates
Is that a mod?
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Playing Atilla for the first time and doing Age of Charlemagne dlc and the most bullshit thing ever just happened.

I lost a valiant defeat vs. a way bigger army and with what either forces had left it would have been an even fight.

But because I killed the enemy general they get to instantly recruit a new general with 120 elite honour guard, which at turn 4 are worth a fuckload as nothing seems to have armour piercing apart from cav.

Why the fuck is this an actual thing? The general system is so fucking flawed that if I kill their general in battle its a bad thing in the long run because they then get fucking reinforcements out of thin air.
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>research torpedo boats in fots
>figure I should be able to rek the ai with them
>they just dodge them like neo from the matrix

fucking stupid
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>>167201037
and just to clarify, this wasn't me attacking them.

They attacked me, got a Pyrrhic victory with their general dying, then in the same turn they attacked my remaining troops with the same army but with a brand new general, so it went from us having 400 troops on each side to them having an extra 120 elite troops just because I did well in the last fight.
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I don't know how long ago it ended, but did we win the /vg/ cup again?
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>>167201673
armies can't attack twice in the same turn

>>167201805
no, franz betrayed us
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>>167201805
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>>167201956
Armies can attack as many times as their moves allow
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>>167201956
yes they can? Are you retarded?

In every TW game you can chase down the remainder of an army you defeated in the same turn if you have enough movement left.
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>>167158880

No they aren't, there's only subtle hints at them. Find me one mention of the word "Skaven" in-game.
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>tfw no lizardmen
>tfw i can't truly purge chaos yet
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>>167202598
>>167202601
I should have said that defeated armies can't attack twice in the same turn
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Bretonnia eventually, lads.
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>>167203114
I said they got a Pyrrhic victory, not me

valiant defeat for player = Pyrrhic victory for AI
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>>167203112
Do you think they'll get jungle paths?
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Stop posting anything besides Warhammer please

Thank you
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>>167203246
Jokes aside, I'm expecting some features which focus on attrition and arbitrarily fucking over other factions as part of the Great Plan.
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>>167203337
i can totally see lizardmens having some op mechanics when it come to recruitement or Healing troops , since they are created from magic pools in lore
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>>167203465
Yeah, it'll be interesting (and probably disappointing) to see what makes the final cut.
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>Still no Tomb Kings
>Still no Skavens
>Still no High Elves
>Still no Dark Elves
>Still no Lizardmen
>Still no Nurgle Chaos faction
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>>167203721
>still no ogres
>still no chaos dwarfs
>still no khorne faction
>still no slannesh faction
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Ancient empires fucking when?
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>Leaked DLCs

wh_dlc08_tmb_tomb_kings
wh_dlc10_ska_skaven
wh_dlc13_chd_chaos_dwarfs
wh_dlc15_ogr_ogre_kingdoms

wh_exp1_def_dark_elves
wh_exp1_hef_high_elves
wh_exp1_lzd_lizardmen


wh_exp2_kho_khorne
wh_exp2_nur_nurgle
wh_exp2_sla_slaanesh
wh_exp2_tze_tzeentch

>7 DLCs are out right now
Tomb Kings fucking when?
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>>167203721
Tomb Kings and Lizardmen soon, my brother.
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>the tomb kings still not added guy still isn't back

I never thought I'd miss him
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>>167204294
where were those leaked?
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>>167203246
I hate to say it but I'm 99% sure they will.

it makes sense but it super dumb.
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>>167204357
Russians doing data mining. They also found a much larger map for Tomb Kings and Ogre Kingdoms to happen. They also had 100% accuracy for all the dlcs released up until now.
http://totalwars.ru/index.php/total-war-warhammer-news/2576-total-war-warhammer-fb-dlc-and-expansion-pack-plans.html
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>Dwarfs lost the badlandsbowl
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>>167204294
man i just realised how totally empire players are gonna get fucked with the skavens since they will most likely spawn all over the fucking place
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>>167204601
I knew that they had found the exp packs initially as well as the faction names for welf/beastmen mini-campaign + the map, but all the stuff you listed previously doesn't seemed confirmed by anything there, it just seems like someone's prediction - I doubt they add an off-map faction like kangz before they add skaven when skavenblight is currently on the map in a similar state to pre-welf athel loren

>>167204739
imagine being estalia
>beastmen in your backyard
>rats to the east eventually
>tree hitler and company to the north
>stuck with shit vanilla empire roster
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>>167204739
Empire is already one of the toughest factions to play as in legendary with the DLCs released up until now. It's going to get even more interesting.
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>>167204739
I'm really curious how the Skaven would work as a whole. I feel like they'd be similar to those rogue stacks of Beastmen subfactions which are insignificant, but pervasive and annoying.
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>>167204601
Thats a whole lot of cyka i cant reat
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>>167204660
Everyone are coming to rape you.
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>>167204898
I've never actually played a Legendary campaign thus far. Does the difficulty just hamstring diplomacy while buffing the hell out of enemy units?
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>>167204891
being an estalian citizen aint easy

cant wait for when the east of the world is released to see nipon getting raped by chaos , ogres and eastern beastmens
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>>167205304
>Nippon is released
>Uses basic Empire troops
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>>167205506
>arabia is released
>all whites imperials
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>>167205621
>They could honestly just use some of the persian voice lines from Attila.
>"Before you say anything, know that i have an amulet against the evil eye. Dark sorcery will do you naught!"
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>>167205786
>they could just import models from shogun 2 for nippon and just change their symbol/color
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>>167198623

How do you do this? Or am I just bad?
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Are Helstorm Rockets worth a damn? They seem like a fantastic option for the early game against armies with lots of trash/quantity units, but they're only available at the mid to late game when they're ostensibly obsolete.
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>>167206365
its not really that impressive, beating a stack of roman spears as barbars is laughably easy.

>>167206801
it depends on who you're fighting - orc/gobbos/norscans get rekt bc of low armor, and some vamp armies get schlonged if they bring zombies/skeles, but if they bring a bunch of monsters the rockets are useless
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>>167205621
>albion get released
>they do magic shit that fuck everyone over

never trust albion
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So what was the feature?
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>>167206973
I'm not gonna lie, I usually auto-resolve Norscan armies after the third stack of chariots and marauders.
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>goblin warbosses can give night goblins over 50 charge bonus

Dis some wicked stabbin.
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Do you think CA will ever give the greenskins all the Warboss and Big Boss variants?
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>>167206973
I'm not finding it that easy.

This is the kind of line up I'm using, and I'm thinking I should trade some spears for more archers, problem is Heavy Roman Melee troops have excellent armor and I find my archers ineffectual.

Spears also make it dangerous to use too much cav to engage them, particularly when they have 12-14 stacks of spears only.

Finding it hard to understand how they can kill hundreds of Romans while hardly taking any casualties themselves. Again I ask, what am I doing wrong? I've had battles very similar to above and have been just crush by the amount of heavy spears they have.
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>>167207780
it depends on the roman army comp you are facing, in anons battle above he was fighting comitatenses spears which are pretty shit and melt when faced by barb melee infantry

for your army comp I would ditch 2 of the cav in exchange for 2 more gothic warband, or 1 more warband/1 more archer - 6 melee cav is overkill especially since you have spear support. Another difference between you and the other anon is that you are fighting better roman armies (lanciarii and eastern armored legio vs comitatenses spears/legio comitatenses)

>>167207212
so do I
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>>167207108
>Albion gets released
>Try to set up a trade deal with them
>"Talk of meat, not honey!"
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>>167186242

Why LME and not say, Masters of Europe?
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>>167163078
>Warhammer being that low
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>That feel when the best shit ever is still Rome 1 with Europa Barbarorum / Roma Surrectum 3.0
What were they thinking with EB II.
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>>167208380

Hmm, I'll give it a try. I was also thinking of dropping spears and the gothic warbands completely and using a half half mix of archers and Noble Germanic Swordsman. What do you think of using some more heavy units?

Last battle I fought multiple gothic warbands usually take a lot of casualties just to take down one of those lanciarii or eastern armored legio
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>>167209552
Did they ever fix those five minute turn times in EB II?
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>>167210236
They did. It's still missing ton of scripts to make the game even on par with EBI
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>>167163078
>Rome 1 that low
>Napoopan that high
Also isn't Charlemagne still broken?
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>>167210310
Welp. maybe it will be good in seven more years...
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>>167209949
you don't need too many archers vs romans because they don't tend to bring lots of skirmishers or light armor units. Swapping the warband for noble germanics is probably a good idea at this point in the campaign, but be sure to put them in shield wall so they get the bonus vs infantry. Every army in attila should have spears because of the dangers cav proposes, so completely getting rid of them would be a bad idea. I usually keep 4 so that I can have 2 on either flank, or so I can use them in spear wall to ward off frontal cav charges on my melee line when facing opponents like the sassanids
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>the end times have arrived
>tfw it's never actually a desperate fight for survival against insurmountable odds
>tfw it's usually a frustrating series of chases against the handful of chaos armies
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What kind of army set up should i use against Wood Elves as Empire? Artillery, greatswords and crossbowmen?
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>fots republic campaign as tosa
>finally secured all the islands in the west
>have secured all enemy provinces that were behind the main border between us and the shogunate hordes
>have achieved our goal of removing those loyal to the emperor
>populace is slowly becoming more and more supportive of our rule
>economy is prosperous even with low tax rate
>all enemy fleets west of our main blockades have been dealt with
>reinforcements from the western islands are now making their way to the front lines via our rail line
>have secured kyoto
>have successfully staved off enemy counterattacks, and am now on the offensive across the entire front

feels good man
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I'm going to find a way to establish a global Jewish ethnostate in Attila.
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>>167211860
swordsmen main line with shielded spearmen/halberds on anti-large duty, demis w/ halberds or KotBS to deal with enemy cav or flyers landing in your backlines, artillery of choice (i usually go 1cannon and 1hellstorm/sunmaker), crossbows for shooting enemy archers/glade riders, and at least one hangunner for murdering trees (silver bullets work well to bypass forest spirits physical resistance). Bright/Light wizard for flame damage/net shenanigans respectively, bonus points if you bring both
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>>167212031
Only one faction for it
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>>167212201
the visigoths?
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YOOO
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>Bretonnian towers fire cows that explode on impact
Not sure how i feel about this.
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>>167208509
>Lizardmen get released
>Try to set up a non aggression pact with them
>"Come, sssssit! Ssshare my fire!"
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>>167214267
Yeah I noticed that. How are they even shooting them out? The look like cannon barrels out of the towers, but Brets don't use gunpowder.
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>>167214550
the lady of the lake provides, cow shooting cannons, probably fired by a small trebuchet inside the cannon
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>using the battle editor
>can't add water
>can't make sieges

lol nice waste of everyones time CA
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>>167215285
>being a w10cuck
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How is it that shogun 2 looks better than rome 2 despite being older
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>playing beastie boyz
>wood elves hunt you all across the map
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>>167215436

>it's a "retard complains about wood elves chasing him across the map and blames it on the game and not his own retardation for not using hidden encampment" episode
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>>167212221
step 1. go to himyar and take it
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>>167215561
step 2. convert to judaism
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>>167215387
aesthetics
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>>167215624
step 3 is dominate the world but that might take a while so yeah gimme a minute
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can romans burn down everything and start migrations to somewhere else
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>>167215285
>waste of everyones time

It really is, you can't do shit except make custom battle maps. And CA is hilariously non-committal to the idea of adding good community maps to the game in an official capacity. Likely because they don't want to compensate the map maker in anyway.

The editor is a completely pointless expense of dev time that to be honest I wish had been spent on adding more content. This is just a frivolous bit of check boxing to say they """"supported""""" modding in TWWH.

>tfw watching the stream earlier when the viewer count started to fall off after they announced it was a shitty map editor
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>>167214267
JESUS CHRIST
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rate my dudes, /twg/
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>>167215387
It looks better than warhammer too.
It's just a better art style, everything post shogun 2 looks like total shit to me and the campaign map hurts my eyes with their drab graininess.
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>>167215674
You have my blessing. Cuck the world.
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>>167215543
>it's a "shill defends awful campaign AI by suggesting to defeat lazy game mechanics by making use of lazy game mechanics" episode

so this...is the power... of strategy

>>167215561

i got bored just looking at that screenshot
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>>167215965
Where should I plop my capital down?
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>>167216059
Roma or Constantinople.
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>>167216059
the city the picts start with

>>167216035
>getting mad at the game because you can't into strategy
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>>167214267
>>167215840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ8jGqdE2iw
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>>167216035

>hmmm
>how should I stop this army chasing me
>should I go invisible for a turn or 2
>or should I just keep running away for another 30 turns because I am incapable of any kind of strategy or tactics
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>>167215818

>their faces when the viewers dropped by a third in a few minutes
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>>167215285
>can't add water

They did in the stream though.
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>>167216370
>getting mad at the game because you can't into strategy

connect 4 would really put a trve master of strategy such as yourself to the test
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>>167216731
>I'm having problem with thing
>Here is a tool to survive that thing
>OH WOW WHAT A SHIT GAME MECHANIC

Do you get mad that cavalry go faster than infantry too?
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>>167216617
seems kinda pointless to add water there
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>>167216815

>example of hyperbole

the answer is no you dingus, total war just sucks
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>>167216527

using game sanctioned cheats to compensate for cheating AI isn't tactical or strategic
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>>167216921
lel
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>>167217035

>can't beat game
>game is the problem

fuck off DSP
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>>167216921
>>167217164
>game sanctioned cheat

this is advanced autism
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>>167166941
Some of the EB I factions have crazy ass victory conditions. Like this one, where you have to vanquish the Gold and Silver deaths right next to you.
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>>167217242
>>167217343

good to know spamming stacks of arch lectors and free company to abuse i mean tactically take strategic advantage of the auto-resolver is a legit trve master pro strat. i mean its in the game after all

thanks /twg/
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>>167217530
>arch lectors
You're killing 'em champ, keep going.
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>>167217343

it literally renders you invisible so you don't get CHAOS'D where stacks of ai crusade into norsca to gank your freshly minted horde.

yeah game sanctioned cheat to cover up their shitty AI.

>tw shills will actually defend this and then spend $120 for a full game
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>>167217871
>$120 for a full game
>still 2 games left in the trilogy
>2 years and 360 dollars later
>game still buggy, no fix for mp after action screen
>turn times in the 5 minute range
>historical tw cancelled to make a lord of the rings decalogy
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>>167218407
>turn times in the 5 minute range

what are you playing on, a fucking calculator?
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I'm new to these games and I have what is probably an obvious question. This is for Total Warhammer btw(Chaos specifically). With my main infantry line, do I want my stronger units on the inside of the line with weaker units on the flanks, or vice versa?
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>>167218638

I think he was trying to imply after several years of content bloat the game's turn times will take a hit.
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So in m2 do you have to be in the same region as crusade target or close to it?

popeman called a crusade on Cairo, I sent two full armies fresh off of conquest down there, replacing some of the damaged or weak units along the way with mercs and crusaders. One army was 3 turns ahead of the other so I stopped by Jerusalem of course, took it and stationed that army there.

Now I'm fighting to defend Jerusalem which is about as hard as you'd expect being dropped right onto it from the sea with a massive enemy in every direction.

I can't have my armies start deserting right before crucial battles because I'm not fucking around with Cairo, realistically they should be more than happy being diverted to the more important city of Jerusalem but I dunno how the game handles that shit.
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>>167218661
typically stronger flanks, as you will usually have your general in the center able to support your troops there. Chaos doesn't have to worry about protecting archers/artillery as much as other factions so it really isn't a big deal. Your flanks need to be strong to prevent your lines from getting rolled and surrounded

>>167218830
maybe but the engine was upgraded from attila to wh so I doubt it will ever be attila-tier
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>>167218661
really depends what units you're using. strong shields to hold the line while weaker but high attack on the flanks to slowly envelope the enemy line works well.
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>>167218661
usually I put stronger units on the flank because
a) they can hold the line better if they get flanked themselves, since usually the outer units get flanked first in a infantry vs infantry line battle
b) they can easily get behind the enemy and surround them, causing greater damage
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>>167218962
>>167219015
>>167219206
Thanks for the replies, Flanking with stronger units worked wonderfully against the first dwarf city's army.
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What was the warhammer announcement you nerds
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>>167219920
battle map editor

cant edit sieges, cant use it in the campaign, cant use it in mp. Basically nothing
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>>167219989
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>>167219920
>>167219989
Less development time for CA as they will graciously feature fan made maps in place of doing work themselves.
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>>167218849

Your armies want to keep moving towards their Crusading target, so you need to move both of them closer to Cairo each and every turn.

And their target IS Cairo - they don't give a fuck about some shitty-ass Jerusalem - that's not why the Popeman called them at all - what are you, some kinda fucking heretic for diverting them like that? Fuck you, man, they're going solo - and you can't stop them.
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>>167220059

Oh cry a little harder won't you.

The variety in normal field battles (the only kind you can make with the editor) is fine as it is anyway, if this means that CA puts a bit less focus into making something we already have enough of that really isn't a problem.
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>>167220350
I'm not crying, I'm apathetic in general. Just slinging shit for the sake of spitting out words while I wake it.
It certainly is a positive addition, don't get me wrong. And I expect to see some pretty cool shit from it.
It still remains somewhat disappointing though.
I didn't watch the presentation, did they cite a reason that siege battles would not be able to be edited?
That's my only legitimate gripe with the release, despite my shitposting.
It certainly is the one area of the mapping game that needs a touch up.

Though psuedo-settlement and river crossing maps should be pretty cool as well.

And while I'm clearly accusing CA of being lazy with my statement that they'll take fan-made maps.
The upside to that is that we will probably end up with legitimately better maps.
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>Late game FotS

I'm getting tired of Foreign Veteran: Total War. The Geisha Distraction add on doesn't seem to make it any better
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>>167219989
>cant edit sieges, cant use it in the campaign, cant use it in mp

So where else can you use it?

What's the point?
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>>167222196

custom battles only to dick around with.
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>>167220239
It's fucking Jerusalem
Jerusalem is the god damn mega holy city that kicked off the actual crusades, it is the pinnacle of the crusades.

What is Cairo compared to that? If I take even half an army away from Jerusalem it will fall. And for what, a commerce capital of little religious worth? Who would be the real heretic here, the one who abandons the holy city for gold, or the one who puts off gold to reinforce and stabilize the scared city?

It should be every crusaders dream to take and hold Jerusalem.
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>>167219989
I bet the only reason why is because of DLC and because they know the community would do a better job.
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>>167222245

God damn that fucking sucks.

I've got about 200+ hours of TWW and I haven't once made a single custom game.

Don't they (CA) see how fucking shit that is? Did they say anything about improving it so it will work with campaign?

>Captcha: Worship Godshill
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lel
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>>167222485
What's wrong?
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>>167222643
nothing
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>>167222258

Oh yeah?
Well, tell that to the Pope, then - 'cause your Armies ain't listening.
They're off to kick some unbelievers ass for fame ('cuz they're on a Crusade that Pope called), holiness ('cause Pope said so) and sweet, sweet loot ('cause Pope wants some, too).
And after they're done there, they'll come back to kick your heretic ass next. ('cause Pope will say so)
R U beginning to see why we hate the guy so much?
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>Created maps restricted to mp
Well there goes any hope of a siege map overhaul.

Fuck I hate sieges so much.
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>>167222936
His Holiness is God's representative on earth. We must not hate.
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>>167223104

Indeed, my child ... God forbid ... God forbid ...

It's why I donate 500 florins to His Eminence every turn - so the Lord's blessings can look down on me. and not on my neighbour's Towns I'm currently besieging
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>>167223068
can't even make river battles

image how cool wh river battles could be, with flying units and vortexes and all that fun stuff
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>>167222258
Not all crusades are about jerusalem tho. Look at the Albegensian Crusade or the Baltic Crusades. If popeman has a reason to call one on Cairo, then to Cairo you gotta go.
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>>167223309
>only 500 florins

Do you hate God, anon? Are you a pagan? A Muslim?
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>>167223350

I think Khazrak gets a river battle as part of his quest line, it's pretty good as well.
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>>167223309
DON'T BULLY FRANCE. RAZING NORMANDY TO THE GROUND ISN'T A SIN. BUT TAKING IT BACK IS.
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>>167219989
>cant use it in mp

They played a multiplayer battle during the announcement stream.

>>167220627
>I didn't watch the presentation, did they cite a reason that siege battles would not be able to be edited?
It was a severely under utilized aspect of the map editor in past games. Basically, they don't want to dedicate a bunch of time to add in the functionality to create siege maps if nobody is going to bother using the tool. It would be a waste of time.
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>>167223584
Nah just checked.
One canyon ambush and one generic symmetrical MP map.
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>>167222258
>Who would be the real heretic here, the one who abandons the holy city for gold, or the one who puts off gold to reinforce and stabilize the scared city?
You can't hold a city without gold.
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>>167223387

Certainly not, Your Eminence!
Being a true and Christian child, I'm full of zeal and eager to bring down heretics, apostates and unbelievers wherever I see them.

Unfortunately, even a good Christian treasury can only go so far: building Churches, feeding starving Priests and supporting 10 full Army stacks leaves me with only a meager income at the end of a turn ...

However, once the heretical & backstabbing bastard of Milan is taken, Your Eminence will begin to receive double the usual donation with which he'll be better able to support all the poor Christian people around Him.
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>>167223309
>>167224118

>Giving the dirty smelly P*pe any money

Remove Papism!
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>late game fots
>ai's only defense against you is endless agent spam

really fucking annoying
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>>167224332
>even if you uncheck show cpu moves you have to watch every enemy agent's animation
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>>167224118
Quadruple the amount and you can take everything north of Rome.
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>>167224332
Have agents ever been good?
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>Install Radious mod
>The Hellenic block turns into a massive hugbox/circlejerk/bully
>All the Persian factions get crushed into dust
Greco persian war III never ever
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>>167224653
>Radious
>Hellenic Hastati Of Axum (Heavy Cavalry)
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>>167224291

>t. a target for Crusades.

Excellent!
Who wants to travel 20 turns to some bumfuck Cairo when you can remove heresy right in your back yard?
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If you could make a faction your waifu which would you marry?
Massilia is bae
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>>167224582
Have you ever played shogun 2?

Agents can
-instantly incite rebellions spawning full stacks in a province
-bribe generals to your side
-bribe enemy units or entire armies to your side
-damage buildings
-assassinate enemy units
-flip enemy units over to your side
-bribe cities to your side
-block army movement for an entire turn
-assassinate generals
-damage troops
-bribe garrisons to not defend your cities
-bribe enemy agents to your side

I'm playing fots and now that its post realm-divide, the ai is spamming my armies with somehthing like 10 agent actions a turn. Shinobi and geisha can block armies, ishin ishi can spawn rebellions, shinobi and foreign vets can assassinate generals and characters, its fucking ridiculous
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>>167199793
Yes. Old playthrough.
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>>167225205

I'm pretty sure he means "Good" in the sense of "An enjoyable a positive addition to the game", not whether they're effective or not.
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>>167225205
Geisha are hot though
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>have fun greenskin campaign smashing stunties and the border princes.
>destroy the main dorf faction and sack everpeak
>make the mistake of glancing at grimgors traits
>likes dwarfs, harsh,generous, cowardly
>never lost a battle with him and he was always stuck in the fight bashing enemy lords/heroes
>lose all will to continue

plz send autism medicine
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>>167225351
ye
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>>167225412

its ok m8 you have to take kraka drak to win the campaign so you would have got fed up eventually
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>>167225590
aren't things like that seeded?
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>>167225412
>likes dwarfs
Is it just me or is the trigger for that completely fucking nonsensical? same with pretty much all the traits actually.
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>>167225412
>>167225810

>tfw my Exalted Hero got C O O L traits
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>>167204660
>Greenskins pushing in from the south
>Still busy dealing with Wood Elves who have expanded all the way to Estalia
>Mfw Chaos shows up on turn 60
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>>167225914
literally worst trait in game.
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>>167193556
>>167195270
>be playing R2
>get into battle
>set up formation, start
>quickly scout enemy army
>overheard some random soldier wanting to get back home
>tell myself to go easy this time, rout rather than kill and hope that one soldier will be spared
>they all fight to death
>accidentally press kill all captives because of reflex
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>>167226584

Damn. Ever since I learned that you supposedly get good leader traits in Attila if you always ransom soldiers, I can't bring myself to kill soldiers in R2 and Warhammer either. It just doesn't feel right.
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>>167226470

+2% Upkeep is nothing and the trait fits the character.

Ignore the Pendant of Slaanesh. 54 melee attack buff is just too good
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>>167226658
It was worst in some M2 mods where you NEEDED max chivalry to grow some cities to the max level.

>>167226668
Doesn't hurt Chaos so much but that is a global increase, and literally doubling the drain on your economy one hero has across every last unit you own.
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LIGHTNING STRIKE, MOTHERFUCKER!
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>>167227538
>that feel
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Today?
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>>167227878
Next week
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>>167227538
>using a game sanctioned cheat
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>We are making progress and getting close to the first release.

Does this even mean anything on TWC anymore?
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>>167227628
>all dem swords waiting to be chosen'd
Do it, boi, do it for EverCHOSEN
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>>167228059
Everything is allowed when fighting against treefuckers
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post some shit that went down
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>>167227538
>Karl Franz
>Demis
>Rockets
>Amber Wizards
>Graphics

>Using game sanctioned cheats
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>>167228109
Old screen. I killed them all though. Felt good.
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>>167228143
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Anybody else getting triggered by fact that Total Warhammer is so good, but falls short in details to be considered legendary? That shit literally pisses me off.
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lovely weather we're having

>>167228663
yes
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>>167228143
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>republican guard cav is just slightly worse saber cav
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>>167228663
Just a bit
It's managed to keep me more occupied than any other total war game since Med 2, and there's still a bunch of shit to come and plenty of things they could add.
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>tfw advanced the borders of my territory from settsu all the way to mushashi in under a year

patton would be proud
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>>167229039
he was proud when the nuke dropped
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Did CA only bother to design one battlemap for the Wood elves? I swear no matter where on the map i fight them it's always the same fucking battlefield.
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>>167230072
I have gotten many different battle maps with the elves. I was playing as elves though.

Is that a siege? They don't have many siege maps. They differ when you upgrade though I think.
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>>167230072

Yes

Bravo CA
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>>167230072

>tfw battlefields in the empire have more trees than wood elf lands
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>>167230235
>Is that a siege? They don't have many siege maps. They differ when you upgrade though I think.

They have one (1) "siege" map (not counting the Oak of Ages), and it doesn't change when upgrading
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>>167230384

>that wood elf map which is literally all trees
>it rekts them because the trees block all their arrows

BTFO
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>>167226658
On my first play through of R2 (coming from m2) I get easily annoyed at how defeated army always come back with reinforce/mercenary filled to the brim on the following turn. I got an impression that if I don't let captives go they are less likely to reform and an army is more likely to be destroyed completely. I didn't want to deal with slaves problem (which was almost non-existent) so I just kill them all after every battle. I stopped doing so when I got the hold of gameplay though.
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>>167230072

No

I think there's like, 5?

Just be happy you didn't get the "Literally 100% covered in forest" map

Fuck everything about that map.
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>>167230638
Yeah I got this feeling too. And the fact that they can recruit in the field as well.
You do get the feeling that you need to kill every last lad you can or they'll never stop, whereas in M2 you could be gracious and let the enemy go, safe in the knowledge that you can continue to roll over them if they keep trying to stop you.
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Which is the strongest cavalry and why is it The Blood Knights?
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>>167231608

>implying Blood Cucks could beat an Armoured Camel Warrior
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>>167231608
>vampire cucks
>not demigryph doomguys
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>>167231974

BLOOD KNIGHTS skeet on redditgryphs
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>>167230072
And the fucks wont even let map makers submit their maps for approval to get added to the campaign map
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>>167232652

Is it CA being retarded or GW being retarded?
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>>167232731
are any battlefield maps DLC exclusive (not including quest battles)? I think they add new ones as FLC, GW definitely wouldn't give a shit about battlefield maps if there's not a price tag attached, tho I bet they'd like there to be one
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>>167231608
>>167231974

>Not wild riders
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>>167232731
Just you.

Making big promises like that, when the popularity of the tool hasn't even been tested yet would be the retarded thing to do. Instead they are being smart about it and sitting back to gauge interest and see, first and foremost if it is even worth bothering to continue supporting the tool, followed by what the most desired additions to it would be.

They have already expressed that they have talked internally about things like curating maps to put in campaign, adding sieges as well as quest battle scripting. They just want to make sure they aren't wasting their time.
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>>167232883
Most FLCs have launched alongside some free maps
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>>167232965

Hello!
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>>167232989
It's a modding tool for the most popular TW game, with one of the largest modding scenes which was established a long time ago and they damn well know it.
Instead they waste their time making those horrible campaigns for their DLC so they can justify the high price.
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>>167233253
Shogun 2 was pretty popular too, yet there are less than 500 player made maps for it, and Attila has 63. It should be no shock that they aren't willing to dump a bunch of resources into a tool that has been so underutilized in the past.

Even ignoring that, this still allows them to see what the community wants most out of the tool, so that they don't waste their time adding features that nobody ends up using, when they could have instead spent those same resources adding features that people are demanding.

This may be a shock, but the guys that work on the engine and development tools aren't the same people that develop mini campaigns.
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Given Sega is being such a jew with dlc, I don't want to buy the game until it's on sale.

Until then, what's going on with all the torrents? I've looked everywhere and can't find one, tpb has only the one and it's linux. What's the deal? This is a major game that's been out for quite a while, I'd expect dozens of shitty Russian hacks by now
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>>167233707

D E N U V O
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>>167233707
No torrents for you mister!

Buy or die
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>>167233615
Yeah but who can blame people for not giving a shit about custom/MP maps when most only play the SP campaign.
They could put in some kind of approval system for player made maps for the campaign which is one of the things TWW direly needs more of. There's 10~ year old games with random map generates that spew out shit better than the same TWW maps we're forced to play on 20 times in the same campaign.
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>>167233747
A few denuvo games have been cracked recently which makes me wonder why total warhammer has been left alone
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>>167233885
Denuvo isn't uncrackable it's a pain in the ass to crack is all so it takes forever
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I'm finally done, after hours of watching fucking agent animations

Tosa riflemen might be one of my favorite units in FotS, they are absolute monsters on the battlefield (and broken in autoresolve). You can clear an entire army one unit at a time thanks to their range/ammo. I'm pretty sure republic inf have the same voice lines as vanilla ashigaru, and republican guard cav is fucking worthless (1 attack less than saber cav). Never got to use Republican Guard Inf. Defended some star forts towards the end which was neat, hopefully the next historical tw is in a gunpowder age
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>>167234125

Good job anon, had any major naval battle?
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STUFF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XMtQZ9gpag
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>>167234663

DARREN
A
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R
E
N
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>>167233747
So you're telling me that nobody on 4chan is using a cracked version of a video game?

Am I in the right place?
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>>167234663

>"STUFF"
>Uploaded 20 hours ago

No
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>>167234816

The game hasn't been cracked
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>>167234823

Dont see it linked in the thread.

People are now starting to release their own custom maps so we can see some cool ones.
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Is the map editor compatible with campaign?

River battles, fort defenses and even proper sieges might be possible since you can build walls.
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On the last episode of, Everyone declares war on the Getae: Everyone declared war on the Getae.

After 124 turns I only own a single city, I've had multiple battles where defeat would have been game over and I've barely scrapped through, I was really in the shit at one point and had to exodus north counter attacking my enemy while the Sycthians chased me. I finally have a good city with a high income and city walls, I might be able to get myself fighting on a single front for once.
I'll probably hole up for a bit, earn some money and try and makes friends with the Boii
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>>167235126
>>167232652
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>>167235286
You can download them though, they said something about using them in co-op campaign.
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>>167233253
Either Grace or Darren said that they used third party tools in their editor and they can't distribute them freely. And also they can't justify making their own version because it will take too many man hours/money and they rather spend it on new content/games
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>>167235352
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/5rfyg5/were_introducing_battle_map_editing_find_out_more/dd6w2mo/

found that post
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>>167235327
You wont be able to place them on the campaign map unfortunately. Mods can't even do that as far as I know.

>>167235467
Damn, at least they do release new maps every now and then anyway.
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>>167234816
Are you assuming that we can crack it ourselves and that it has already been cracked?
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>>167235238
>make friends with the boii
You were doing pretty well though.
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>>167235238
They have a really fucking hard start, but good job on staying alive. Good luck dealing with the horsefuckers though, they're such a bitch to fight without archers or slingers.
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>>167235238
>I finally have a good city with a high income and city walls
Do you think it will last?
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fag
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>>167235238
I want to get off this ride
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>>167235545
I was assuming that at least some people on 4chan would be using a pirated version, I'd say that's fair for most games/generals
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>>167236206
>I might be able to get myself fighting on a single front for once

Maybe time for another fucking exodus
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>>167236287
Yeah for sure, but only if they're available.
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>>167232103
They actually don't. Demys with halbeards obliterate blood knights 1v1 100% of the time
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>>167236384
What the fuck have you been doing to piss everyone off so badly?
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>>167236387
Demis are cheaper as well.

Though arguably Empire have a lot of solid anti-large options already while the VC don't.
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>>167236465
you made that? I've never seen that empire asset building in a map before. why the fuck don't even settlement battles have buildings like that around the place.
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>Steam revoked my g2a key today

;_; back to historical TW
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>>167236739
It's on the steam workshop some of the maps people have made look great.

That canyon one is 10/10.
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>>167228059
what cheat did he use ?
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>>167236791
They do that?
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>>167236739
Not him, but there are a lot of building blocks for houses. That probably isn't a preset structure, but instead one he put together from various pieces.
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>>167236791
How is that a thing? It is not illegal, and they would not know it is any different to a gift or online purchase from another site.
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>>167236851
>>167236897
First time happened to me, and almost every game that i bought is from g2a
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>>167236897
I think G2A and steam have been cracking down on stolen keys lately. G2A has been getting shit for ages for not monitoring the marketplace properly, though why would they care when everyone gets what they want.
probably a good idea to stop buying from there.
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>>167237010

Code was probably stolen, it's a grey market. You're lucky all they did was remove it.
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>>167236385
I've been thinking of buying it form a cd key store anyway, even if it'll only save me $13 dollarydoos. I'd pay it, no problem. I'm just annoyed by the amount of dlc and future certainties for paradox dier overpriced dlc that will end up costing probably $300 or something ridiculous.

I'd hyped myself up to play this game but not sure I can justify paying for all of it full priced.

/endblog
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>>167237105
Yea, I will rebuy it on the next sale, quite fun game
>>
>>167236517
It's actually kinda stupid how good they are compared to BKs. They can even be healed now too.
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>>167236495
The only time I ever declared war on anyone was on the Bastarnae in like turn 4, everyone else just hates me because that's the bandwagon and it's obviously a positive feedback loop for their relations
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>>167237010
What is (ROW)?
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>>167236897

G2A is shady as all fuck desu
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>>167237010
How long you owned the game??

I am scared i am gonna lose my games now :(
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>>167237061
Is it not less to do with the actual keys being stolen (they're often bought in bulk which can be another problem), but that the keys are bought using stolen credit card info and then resold on G2A?
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>>167236791
>>167237010
WEW

Dont buy keys from shady sites
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>>167237281
Yeah much more likely bought with stolen cards and then put on G2A. They don't require much information before they let you sell whatever you want.
They claim to have really good secruity checks but they really don't.
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>>167237141

Didn't you get the G2A good goy shield?

It's only a buck
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>>167237214
16 january

>>167237206
(ROW)?
>>
>>167237010
>tfw i will never have to worry about that
>tfw i won the game for free cause of a small event a obscure indie game was having
>first price is a 60$ game
>second price is 30$ game
>buy the game
>my friend do too
>friend is a tryhard for platformers
>find the secret level for winning the contest
>pass me his save file
>get one character a little damaged and place them randomly
>take screen
>submit
>win
>friend do same like 5 hours later with his own screenshot
>win

that was a good day
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>>167237465
>16 Jan Total War: Warhammer Retail (ROW)
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>>167225412
>Playing Empire campaign.
>Just got the entirety of Reiksland, but I don't want to expand just yet, first want to get all defenses to second level.
>I already annihilated the orc tribe to the north because those fuckers always pull some empire faction into war with me and occasionally send some stacks down ruining my plans.
>The fuck do I do in the meanwhile with Karl and his army.
>...
>Start raiding Altdorf.
>Provoke rebellions.
>Crush them in the first turn easily.
>Get money from battle and from ransoming, allowing me to build shit faster.
>Also get experience for Karl.
>Around the time I get him on Deathclaw, I check his traits.
>He's got every single positive attacking one.
>Also a fuckton of magic items because I guess rebels are just that good at getting them through the black market or something.
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>>167237435
yea, i will get money refund propably
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>>167237524
oh, no fucking idea
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>>167237185
Playing legendary? Campaign relations are always fucked on legendary.
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>>167237493
this is the most jewish plot to get a game i ever heard
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Any mod for Attila that lets me have AoR-style building chains, like Industry and such?

After stabilizing the west, I'm starting a campaign to conquer the Sassanids as WRE, and I don't want to have an Adobe Dyer in the middle of the fucking desert.
I'd leave the Mosaic Cutters and such as they are, but that'd mean I can never upgrade them.
>>
>find a dwarf army comp that always has me at >50% on the strength calculator
>enemy armies seek this one out thinking they can win
>TRAP FUCKING SPRUNG
>bad auto-resolve army = deathball that murders literally any race any tier army on the battle map
>only costs me around 2.3k per army so I can field a fucking lot of them early on
>super effective against vampire cunts and greenskin trash

God I fucking love the Dwarfs.
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>>167236102
How did he get that? Lost some battles?
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>>167238415
You are my least favorite person in this thread.
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Old elven oak. Burns nicely.
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Apparently you can put custom maps as quest battles on the campaign map. I wonder if this means you can fight on that particular custom quest batte map outside scripted quest battles. As in you attack(or get attacked) on the location of the quest battle and thereby use the that battle map like how it is with official quest battle maps(Pic releated). Probably not, but it should be tested.
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>>167238648
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>>167238748
Why no new goblin slayer?
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>>167238448
Not really, that was after winning one
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>>167237761
I'm only on hard. Scythians are definitely weak in my south so I'll leave an army just bg enough to defend the city in the north while I go south and liberate some nations southwards to have a buffer state. Of course this new state will hate me anyway because 70 turns ago I was at war with them but hey it'll stem the tide a little.

The Spear Men fought 4 battles this turn, all against forced march enemies
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>cheat mods you aren't ashamed to use

no great power penalty, this shit is fucking pointless
ai agents cant assassinate, fuck you and your band of 6 heroes up my armies asshole assassinating multiple lords back to back. agents were and will continue to be a mistake
>>
>>167238851
Wonder what the trigger is.
>>
>>167238836
One just came out a week ago
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>>167238852
>>167238648

How is it that Rome 2's campaign map looks so much better than Warhammers?

>those trees in Rome 2 compared to the aliased shit in Warhammer
>better lighting with better contrast in Rome 2
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>>167237465
I feel bad for you senpai, hopefully they dont go back on older purchases.
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>>167238917
>ai agents cant assassinate, fuck you and your band of 6 heroes up my armies asshole assassinating multiple lords back to back. agents were and will continue to be a mistake

I don't use that. It's so easy to get your own agents and fuck over enemy agents through assassinating and bodyguard skill.

>>167238976
Welp, I confused the chapter numbers.
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>>167239028

dont forget
>cities that grow and look different
>roads
>trade routes

warhammer is casual downgraded trash and only the historical game can save this dying franchise. unless hair trump ends the world before then. in which case thanks a lot you fat fucking idiot americans, but at least i dont have to deal with fantasyfags anymore
>>
>>167239028
It depends I guess. Warhammer got a bit more advanced geography. More detailed mountains and so on.
>>
>>167237465
>(ROW)

Rest Of the World iirc

Some geo-blocking shit

Don't buy from g2a
>>
Would a Medieval 2 remaster be the best thing CA could do right now?
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>>167239363
No.
They've already mastered historical titles with Attila, but for optimization.
And they've shown they can do that if they care enough with Warhammer.

So Medieval 3 whenever we get it, 2021 or some shit will be the best thing they can do.
>>
>>167239317
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ6RYhmP2_4

I mean this looks pretty good. Different art style or theme I guess.
>>
>>167239363
I'm sure we'll get a Medieval 2 ipad edition after the success of Rome.
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>>167239471
I wouldn't say Attila is exactly masterful. Med2 is still unmatched.
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>>167239650
With its mods perhaps, in quality of gameplay and presentation Attila obviously shits all over it.
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>>167239141
yeah I really miss not seeing camels and horses walking on roads on the campaign map, instead of following those fucking beastmen and wood elf armies.
they could at least make cities look different if they're walled or not though.
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>>167238852
Turn 167, still in the shit
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>>167239940
What the fuck? RIP
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>>167239650
Med 2 is shit.
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>>167239363
I sure can't wait to play a broken mess of a game NOW IN HD
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>>167239650
>Med2 is still unmatched

???????

Rome 1 is on par in terms of features and has less issues than medieval 2. Also the modern total war games wrecks medieval 2 when it comes to responsiveness in battles and so on, which is pretty important.
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>when you realize reading books is the ultimate total war experience
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>>167240440
the ultimate total war experience probably involves fighting in an actual war
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>>167240661
>>167240661
>>167240661
>>167240661

Get on board, I'll call it in.
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