/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1222

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>Don't worry guys I got this, I'm support spec'd :)

i want to come on quna's stomach, then have her put on her skinsuit without cleaning my cum off

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獲得経験値+100%!
On another note would you a cute mummy?

Doesn't element stance also give you a good portion of damage along with Te? I'm looking through the skills and not sure how much more something like Fi would give as well.

I'm sorry, buttercup, did we enter a wormhole and land in a dimension where stances don't exist? Or do you not know what those are? I'm going to guess that maybe you don't, since your Fo/Te trees don't have any.

Basically, you can take that 150% you get from your Wind Mastery and Shifta Strike, and throw it into the garbage, because I get 145% from my Brave Stance, and then another 15% from a critical strike, and then another 130% from my Elemental Stance, and that's assuming all of the other situational modifiers like Rapid Boost and Shifta Air Attack Boost aren't coming into play.

So in total, that's 190%, compared to your 150%. And if you're a Bo too, that's 180%, which as I'm sure your 4th grade diploma in addition is telling you, is 10% less than a Fi/Bo. Basically, what you need to do is stop getting in the real men's way and stick to casting Megiverse instead of dragging the rest of us down with your impotent Zanverses, because unlike you wand-waving homosexuals, we know how to actually make the boss feel it when it's in their weak spot.

>>167147793
It's rdr +100% anon, not exp, and daamn straight I would.

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>>167148384

>>167148315
With Fi you basically go all-in on the Chase branch and Wand Gear Element

Obviously this is for mobbing and not bosses but that's how wands always have been

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”圧倒的筋肉で敵を豪快に粉砕する”というプレイスタイルを極めるべく、日々の筋力トレーニングを欠かさない。近接戦闘クラス中心に活動しており、近接クラスによるタイムアタック動画なども作成している。最近はサモナーも嗜んでいるが、愛するペットたちにも筋力トレーニングをさせていて、彼らもすっかりムキムキとのこと。
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>>167148876
Massive summoner

>>167148315
If my memory is fine and not much has changed since a few months ago, it was something like this:

>BO Elemental
1.2*1.1 = 1.32 damage as long as you match weak element.

>FI Brave
1.25*1.2 = 1.5 damage as long as you're in front.

>BR Weak
1.35*1.1 = 1.485 on wand hits when hitting weak points, and wand explosions when hitting weak points or matching weak elements.
1.35*1.1*1.1 = 1.63 technique damage if you match weak elements or hit weak points with them.

>HU Fury
1.2*1.1*1.1*1.05*1.05*1.1 = 1.76 on wand hits and explosions only.

Those are the stances alone, mind that each class has other gimmicks besides them that will either increase your damage further or bring you other utilities, as well as skill rings.

If all you want to do is increase Zanverse damage, there's also GU and SU, and of course BO elemental on enemies weak to wind/break on enemies with tons of breakable parts, the only stances that work with it, but you shouldn't be using any of them outside an organized MPA if you ask me.

>>167149720
>>167149417
eugh i love this fucking FAT CAT so much

What's worse erp autists or muh numbers autists

>>167149947
parserfags, they are violating the LAW

>>167149947
neither, (You) are :)

Should I keep Mother Factor on my Astra

>>167149947
erp autists.
If you are gonna be an autist, use it on something that can benefit others

>>167150230
this, number autists can actually be of use, erp autists just drag humanity down as a whole

>>167148876
>”圧倒的筋肉で敵を豪快に粉砕する”というプレイスタイルを極めるべく、日々の筋力トレーニングを欠かさない。近接戦闘クラス中心に活動しており、近接クラスによるタイムアタック動画なども作成している。最近はサモナーも嗜んでいるが、愛するペットたちにも筋力トレーニングをさせていて、彼らもすっかりムキムキとのこと。
>www


I actually respect this guy

>>167149947
ERP hands down.
Number autists can be p cool.

>13* RARE DROP
>can't see shiny aura
>forget I had egg sheet and that 13* parfait is a drop from it

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>>167150230
>not using erp autist for your benefit
hah

Non-seasonal Nyaus just look naked to me now

>>167150371
srry dude, not a gay man myself, I have no use for erp

>>167150371
I'm a fag virgin and even I think erp is pathetic

I hate every single one of you.

I only ERP with hot shota characters. Adults can fuck off.

>>167151292
bear pls

>>167150371
>bein a homosex who needs to collect benefits
weak shit

>>167150371
>>167151585
>mfw unwanted for erp because girl

I don't actually want to erp but it would be nice to be noticed.

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>>167151537

>>167152201
>girl(male)
nah, you're a fag

>>167152226
If you say so...

>>167152203
Is that a mod, I don't remember that jacket showing as much cleavage

>>167152345
show tits then

Why does RA always get FUCKED on weapon potentials?
They don't have a single good rifle, it's all trash.
Why? It doesn't have to be this way

>>167152412
This isn't /b / I don't have to. I would just get banned anyways.

>>167152560
>I don't have to
oh yes you do
show tits

>>167152503
What's wrong with the ones that are just straight up damage boosts with no strings attached

>>167152560
>This isn't /b/ I don't have to
yeah nah tits or gtfo cunt

>>167152201
>>167152412
>>167152775
>>167152560
>>167152827
fuck off

>>167152795
You mean like Astra? They are worse than Astra for all the other jobs since the PP Recovery aspect isn't ever going to get used. Gix? Gix is awful on RA since the potential's condition actively works against how RA is played

>>167152775
>>167152827
>>167152868
Why? So you can just tell me they are non existent shit tier and make me feel worse about them than I already do? No thank you. I would rather just gtfo

>>167152914
>the PP Recovery aspect isn't ever going to get used
Yeah, but it's not like the damage boost is going anywhere just because you're not really using the PP recovery?

>Gix is awful on RA since the potential's condition actively works against how RA is played
Since when was RA supposed to take hits to the face

Your standards just seem a little unreasonable

>>167153158
you wanted the attention or not?
now, show tits

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>>167153158
So why haven't you? Gotta get the last word? That you started this entire reply chain with >because girl tells us that yes you are a useless attention-whore who won't actually GTFO
>mfw
>no face
GTFO

>>167152914
Just get Austere then. Or the Yamato Rifle together with Orbit if you have it.

>>167153183
>Since when was RA supposed to take hits to the face
You take hits on purpose literally all the time on RA though, letting you do that is like 3/4 of the reason you even take /HU and /FI is never really talked about. Well, maybe not all the time, but definitely frequently enough for Gix to never really reach its full potential in most cases

>>167153346
>You take hits on purpose literally all the time on RA
nu-/pso2g/ everyone

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>getting hit is part of the plan!

lmao you fags

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>>167153346

>>167153346
Consider getting good and not getting hit

>>167153394
Can either keep charging my attack, deal a couple hundred thousands in damage, and take some in return which immediately gets filled back up by Auto Halfline, or I could abandon my charge, JA, and Standing Snipe bonuses and dodge to set up all over again where it hopefully stays safe long enough to get a hit off.
Tough choice.

>>167153395
I get hit on purpose during mother because I am constantly getting back tons of hp.
When the cubes phase happens I don't die.

This is as force of course. As melee I don't get hit.

just get a spread needle 14* noobs

>>167153343
>A girl has no name
>A girl has no face

Yes, sir. GTFO now. Do you feel better about yourself now?

>>167153552
>not just spamming one point and crafted slider
rofl

>>167153783
Didn't Parallel Slider Type-0 make One Point obsolete

>>167153783
>doing no damage
>playing like a retard
nice

>>167153812
One Point is still more PP efficient, if you have Orbit that's pretty inconsequential though.

>>167153713
show tits ;)

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>>167153863
Again, coming up with nonsense
You should actually look things up instead of trying to guess

>>167153863
One point consumes 15 PP about every 2 seconds, parallel slider is 20 startup + 10 per second. Parallel slider also has about double the DPS of one point, so it's far more PP efficient, unless you only use it for a really short time. There is basically no reason to have one point on your bar anymore, outside of running quests on normal or something.

I'm struggling with FO right now and I come to realize I don't enjoy it at all. Should I tough it out till it eventually becomes good? I was maybe picking a more manageable class like braver that is just all around decent. The gearing process and many other things are giving me major roadblocks.


Please keep in mind I'm not stacked on weapons with NEET playtime.

Are Jet Boots stronger with shift strike even if I have a lot more T-ATK than S-ATK?

>>167155920
Force can be a pretty dry class. Despite being one of if not the strongest class for a very long time, it still sees less playtime than nearly every other class. I would say if you aren't having fun now, just switch off.

Force is great if you want to feel incredibly strong, but from a gameplay pov it's much less exciting than most of your other options.

>>167156000
No. Boots always deal striking damage, but damage scales off T-ATK, switch strike changes it to scale off S-ATK. If you have more T-ATK, don't use switch strike.

>>167156128
Yeah this seems to be the case with my experience considered. Any Cheap classes you can recommend? I was thinking BR or GU.

>>167156232
But I'm dealing more damage with them if I use switch strike despite having 600 more T-ATK

>>167155920
>I'm not having fun
>should I keep not having fun?
That's what you're asking anon.

Don't forget to say グランプリ連続受賞おめでとう for your free salon pass 100 sg ticket and 2x 100% triboosters!

>>167157049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugJfjmxOR2I

I'm waiting on the good times

>>167156335
Cheap in terms of Meseta costs? Br and Gu can get away with just a single good weapon without much trouble if you want to be really stingy. It's not that much more trouble to have more than just your main weapon though.

Honestly you can play whatever you want and see what's fun. Even Techer isn't bad any more. Force is an outlier in how much of a pain in the ass it is to gear. DB Bouncer as well if you utilize elemental stance.

>>167157547
Not taking both stances on DB bouncer is a shitter thing to do.

>>167156000
Shifta Strike will raise your damage by 10% regardless of what kind of damage it is so I'm not really sure what is exactly that you're asking

And Shifta itself raises all your base attack power by a percentage

>>167157761
Loads of bouncers just get one pair of DBs and spec break stance, it's such a waste.

>>167157807
Shifta? What?

>>167158014
better than speccing craft mastery.

>>167158084
>Are Jet Boots stronger with shift strike
>shift strike
I'm just now realizing you meant to say Switch Strike
Whoops

>>167157547
>Cheap in terms of Meseta costs?

Yeah I would like to try TE too since i'm already TE 75 but I want a little more oomph. TE only really shines when the whole MPA is good. Can te do more now though? Its been a while since I played any of the other classes. I was thinking TE/FI TE br looks cool too but the whole getting that expensive bow thing doesn't help me now.

>>167159239
Te isn't really a solo class, you would want to go Te/Br for that anyway. Te/Fi is mainly about smacks.

>>167153346
>playing RA
>intentionally getting hit
>when RA takes hits poorly
listen anon, I know that sega's recent design themes have been primrarily loud shouts of "FUCK RA, PLAY FO", but that's no reason to intentionally try to be deadweight by being dead all the time.

getting smacked is periodically just a thing that happens, but you're supposed to be keeping it rare. especially as tinfoil RA.

>>167160869
almost all ra sub hu, which provides automate and massive hunter, which in turn makes ra great at taking around 30-40 hits per eq.

>>167159791
Yeah I was worried about that. Like if I had a good team then I see myself playing TE and I do want to still try it but there are some thing that concern me like you stated viability in solo play.

TE/BR seems like what I would go for if I want a good balance.

>>167158014
>>167157761
>wasting the time and money to max out and affix six DBs so you can use ele stance
>every time what you have becomes obsolete
just use fucking jetboots already you stupid cunts.

>>167160869
Please kill yourself, you have no idea what you're talking about

>>167160997
I'll do you one better and just pick a better class.

Are there any weapon types that work better with astral or am i being meme'd and should just wait and get fornis version for all of them?
got xmas talis mostly by mistake and for future factor shenanigans

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>>167147689
Do the devs of this game still hate Americans? Last time I tried to play I couldn't even p2cosmetics because they would not accept my Credit Card of freedom.

>>167161981
The benefit of the Astra series is that the potential doesn't rely on a conditional with the added bonus of some PP help. If you want to wait half a year for Fornis series to finish it would probably be better if you could match elements. You're probably running Mother anyway, may as well fill some astra sheets.

>>167162391
Most people get around it these days with the mobile game + charging through Google Play instead

They stopped accepting foreign transactions way back when because of red tape mostly not because they didn't want our money, the PSO2es method gets around this

>>167160997
You stupid fuck, jetboots are dogshit when rapid boost is down or when vinto becomes too unreliable, you would want to use both weapons and both stances but I guess a lazy shitter like you wouldn't understand. You probably spam moment gale thinking that you're actually contributing to the mpa. Deadweight piece of shit.

>my negative damage is better than your negative damage!
Fucking bouncers.

>every time i use my free salon passes i have to go back and fix something with another pass right after
life is hell

>>167162391
What >>167162575 said but if you don't want to bow to the jewgle overlords then you could just by web money cards like me and redeem them.

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whats a good way to take advantage of boost week to make some meseta

>>167164551
Do the solo XQs for high slot Flict rares

>>167164372
Its an endless cycle

> Grind a 13 (or higher) NT Weapon to +35 OR Raise a 13 Pet to Lv. 120

PSO2G BTFO

>>167165093
Would not 50-60 whatever floors be better for that kind of thing?

>>167165739
No, they are far worse.
Problem is you can only do each solo XQ 5 times a week.

>>167165937
That's still a thing? At least they reduced the pass cost.

>>167160997
Have you ever fought drago deadlion with jet boots before? It'd make you wish you don't rely on that element change gimmick

>>167165493
>never play summoner
>never grinded an NT weapon
>have level 120 trim
:^)

>>167160997
Meh, you only need three or so for what's "relevant" in the game at any given moment

You ought to work on filling out the rest eventually of course but, fire or ice really aren't the biggest priorities right now, arguably.

>>167153713
VALAR MORGHULIS

ALL HUMANS MUST DIE

>>167166605
Good thing break stance works on every part of him then, even after breaking them

>>167171141
Blue Quna is the best Quna.

>>167152203
Excuse me, Miss, but you seem to have doughnuts for ears.

Anyone familiar with PSO2es error message #403 ? I'm trying to accept a friend request but it fails.

>>167172451
That's probably "you have too many friends" or "they have too many friends".

>>167172557
>social game
>prevents you from being too social

>>167173717
es isn't a social game, it's a mobile game. It's designed to milk money from you. The 50 friend limit is fucking retarded though, I'll give you that, especially with 75m+ XH triggers now a thing that people can STILL onepass with enough luck, myself included.

Call me slacker/leecher whatever but what are the chances that union units will be "good" enough to upgrade over pp crafted saiki?
no i dont expect any set to give +55pp from the get go but something close enough would be nice
also for some reason 12*sets not being 3-part and having stupid set bonuses like +60 dex bore me

When are they bringing other weapons up to par in es?
I think it'd be illegal for them to nerf tmg

>>167174735
They will most likely shit on Saiki. Both Austere and some of the current 12*s thrown together already do.
If you cared about optimization you would have upgraded a long time ago though, so you probably won't have to now either. It's not like the content is hard enough to require it.

>>167162872
>projecting this hard

haha this game so shit!

Question but does maron/melon chaser actually goes through all those bazillion cubes during mother phase or its borked?

>>167179582
>SU on Mother
What are you doing?

>>167179582
>SU
What are you doing?

>>167179582
I've tested it a little bit and I don't think so cause speed of the projectile, but I do think Cery/Popple Chaser is fast enough to hit a bunch of them.

>>167176327
The #1 reason to stay on Saiki is that they're the last good tradeable unit set. If I sold off my Saiki sets I'd get a little over 100m for each set, I'm not ready to dump that kind of money into small upgrades.

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>people in XH who still haven't crafted their buffing techs

>>167184264
They'll only go down in price once the nail is fully in the coffin, you know. You're better off selling them now and trying to re-futureproof yourself in Austere or 12*s

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I-I want to be anons valentine

So, I just got an Astral Riser, the rifle. It any count?

>>167186206
fag

>>167184264
>I'd get a little over 100m for each set
What makes you think that? I hope you don't believe you'll get anything more than fodder value out of a saiki set now.

>every run, ask people to break deadlion's shield
>every run, people just WB the body and ignore anything that isn't his head or body

I wish sega would stop fucking tying drops to part breaks. especially part breaks that are hard to do because they're retards who can't make hitboxes properly and so other hitboxes suck up attacks meant for the target you have to break to actually get something.

nobody fucking cooperates. no matter how fucking much you try, you're not going to deal with shit like breaking deadlion's shield or hunar's sword if everyone else is bent on wiping the boss out without thinking about anything else.

seriously fuck everyone.

>>167187824
I'm more upset about retards breaking turrets than not breaking whatever part with 0.0000001 droprate.

>>167187824
People would rather get more runs, nobody cares about the arm unit anymore

>>167187824
This makes me worried for breaking Gruzoras' wings in White Day since I still want that unit for my t-atk set.

>>167187824
He runs and moves around too much for someone as shitty as me to focus on one part so I just hit him every chance I get.

>>167187119
My last set which was worse sold for 130m and that was 4~ months ago. I'm thinking about not even rebuilding my s-atk set so I'm not that concerned with how good the return is. I'm not hurting on meseta, I just don't feel like dumping millions into slight upgrades that will only ever be fodder after.

>>167186159
I would consider a temporary cheap Austere set but I've never seen a unit drop from PD.

>>167188917
>Austere set
I want to take the upgrade leap but the premium/RNG barrier is too much.

>>167188067
>they want more runs
fuck all of them, they don't deserve more runs. they aren't getting shit anyway. if they can't be bothered to cooperate towards anything but pointless rushing and intentionally getting less loot then they can all fucking rot.

and why the fuck would they not care about a good unit? oh wait, retards everywhere, I forgot.


>>167184264
>implying that getting shitfucktons of money for them is a bad deal
you cocksuckers make me sick.
inb4 conspire wannabes.

>>167186423
Astral Riser is not an Astra weapon.

The rifle you actually want is called Astra Tremb.

>>167186206
Well, are you cute?
or are you kayleth[/s]

>>167189078
Because most people who wanted that unit have already gotten it from doing ult, the main point of that eq for most people is fornis and empe fodder and breaking drago's shield contributes nothing towards that

>Still costs nearly 20m to buy invade arm+rear

>>167191067
theres various ways bannable and legit to get meseta

>>167191721
Can't say the idea of spending 60m just to buy units to replace Saiki before affix costs thrills me.

>>167186423
it's sexy
13* not as good as the 12* one was though

>>167192070
Trying to figure out how you went from 20 to 60

>>167192191
One set for each attack type in order to phase out Saiki

>>167192296
austere is an awful candidate for replacing saiki at this point

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>>167192430
This thread loves jerking them off for some reason, Saiki is gonna price drop hard but not hard enough to justify buying austere.

On a side note, I've been stocking up on fodder and the prices still haven't readjusted despite my last big buy being 2 weeks ago, does no one farm shit any more?

>>167192430
It's the best set in the game though, what are you talking about?

>>167189037
>premium/RNG barrier
They're getting rid of that in the near future.

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>>167192430
>>167192562
>Don't worry guys I got this, I'm HP spec'd :)

>>167194876
t. a person that doesn't even play the game

>>167192759
Good cause I want to upgrade but I'm not going to drop money on premium for it.

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what humans/cast/deumans will never see

>>167196260
She's so best, I enjoyed hugging her everyday.

>>167196260
who's this cute boy?

>>167188067
It's a mixture of this and the fact that the targeting is shit with a keyboard. I'd lock onto different things if it wasn't stuck looping through 3 things and always skipping what I want.

How do you get yellow ARKS badges?

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>>167197385
so even among the trasheap of pso2g players, there are some hidden gems

>>167197293
Targeting is almost never an issue if you know what to do

Alternitivly, use tps.

>>167196260
Can't wait for her to return to the main game again.

>>167197385
Context?

>>167188917
Shit will take ages to sell now, the market is being flooded with units people are trying to sell before the boost week hits. There might be a spike in sales once union hits, but I've had my 150/9 t-atk saiki set up for a couple of weeks at 15m/piece and it still hasn't sold.

>>167187824
Play ranger yourself, and affix shock to a rifle. Shock his shield arm first, and then end attract it until it breaks. If you do that, you alone will be able to break it before the mpa kills him, weak bullet on it or not.

>>167198091
certainly not you, lmao

>>167199430
What ship? I don't remember seeing a 150/9 for that price on 2.

Does pso2g spend hundreds of millions of meseta on units because they can't get good? Someone post the damage comparison pic that was something like 90 atk affixes vs 150 so the thread can bask in how little affixes matter. Spending that time getting better at the game will boost your dps way more than hours of mindless meseta farming/shop autism.

>>167199895
Ship 4. I'd transfer it to 2 along with a ray unit set or two for my ship 2 char but it isn't worth $7 even if I could guarantee a sale of it.

>>167200340
Ship 2 is pretty degenerate when it comes to this sort of thing. In general prices are higher here and gear generally sells pretty well. As little as half a year ago you could sell 150/9 for nearly 50m a piece and even now it lists for around 30-35.

Ship 2 loves completed units, weapons and premade fodders. When the photon booster 12* potentials came out you could make an insane amount of money from any of the falz 12*, like a 1000% return on investment.

>>167201290
Yayo's come so far, only pretty bad instead of just a leech now.

>>167200320
That's really stupid, the difference between a 90 atk set vs a 150 atk set is pretty sizeable. Not that I think it's worth going above 100 but saying that it's a small difference is straight up lying. Unless you're a shitter then affixes won't really matter.

Is it okay to make a huge 199cm tall ranged fighter like a Ranger or will I get hit a lot more than with a shorter character?

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>>167201465

>>167201465
I'd take 11 Yayos instead of randoms any day of the week

>>167201572
It's like 2.5% damage. While that isn't anything to scoff at, it's not exactly a huge deal either. The point of the 90 vs 150 illustration was to show small the disparity is despite the huge difference in unit quality. It's not hard at all to break 120 without sacrificing PP. You're still going to be at the top of every parse if you're a parsefag with 120atk units who can play the game well to any degree.

Now stop buying 3s/4s fodder so I can upslot in peace.

Nice batch on contextless parser logs

>>167201642
Proof that summoner sucks ass.

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>>167202068
OH mother logs

https://twitter.com/jiruCM/status/825717644019916800

Explain this, /pso2g/

>>167201993
It's ~2% damage for one thing at 150. Multiply that by 4 and its suddenly an 8% difference in damage, which is quite sizable.

>>167199551
yeahright.

>>167202189
summoner needs to be deleted

>>167202189
the bigger the ears, the more powerful it is

>>167202191
That's not how the math works at all. Your damage does not go up 8% when you go from 270atk units to 450.

>>167202653
Sorry, ~7%. That's barely less significant.

>>167202189
nerf this?

>>167202189
summoner gameplay will never not look like the most boring shit in existance no matter how inflated you make the numbers

>>167202974
http://4rt.info/psod/?kezvy

It's a little over 4%. I don't use the damage sim often but there's simply no way 180atk makes that big of a difference. Go into a free field and look at your damage without shifta drink and then look at it with shifta drink. Shifta drink should be a fair bit more atk than 180 and even that doesn't hit your number.

Again, this is with the extreme example of 90 vs 150, anyone who isn't super cheap will probably have 120-130.

>>167204683
http://4rt.info/psod/?b9plu
fixed it for you, no need to thank me

>>167204864
Of all the things to forget... Thanks mate

>>167197385
>>167201290
>>167201493
>>167201642
>>167202172
very very interesting data

>>167205814
I sometimes wonder if I should go full TDs or Knuckle for the core and TDs for everything else.

>>167206059
Just watch Neek's video

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>>167202189
The pinnacle of episode 4 gameplay right there

>>167202189
>SEGA
>balance
i await other class being overbuffed to near Su/Gu levels

>>167207324
Knowing Sega they're going to nerf Gu and leave Marron alone

>>167202189
Looks like they're abusing lag to make multiple CT marons hit during one stun (she should become invincible after the first maron hits). Not sure what the significance of being only 9 people is though.

>>167202189
>SU
This is the most fucking gay thing I've seen in this thread so far, and we're talking a place where people ERP day in day out and sometimes even post videos of them cumming.

>>167207561
They just all hit in quick succession, nothing to do with lag

>>167207586
You could've just said nhite

>>167207586
Victims of videotaped masturbation aren't gay. They're victims.

>>167202189
This is even worse https://twitter.com/jiruCM/status/826124468162424832

>SEGA freaks out when people cheese Magatsu with banish and temporary bans people for it
>doesn't respond when it's equiliviant happens on Mother because it's their previous SU class

don't even pull the 'b-but Magatsu wasn't run limited' card either

>>167206101
Neek affixes hp, that means he's a shitter according to this thread.

>>167208043
But magatsu wasn't run limited

>he doesn't play the pillowfight master class
Even U.D. is playing it.

Why are people butthurt that Su can do good damage now?

>>167208043
But mother being run limited is literally the reason why it doesn't matter that you can do this. With magatsu it led to people abusing it getting hudreds more cubes than people that didn't. Also chain banish was a retardedly game breaking bug that one guy on his own could do in a pug. In this case it's down to sega not coding it in such a way that you can't skip the 3 'mandatory' arms phases.

>>167208043
More like because mother doesn't drop shit compared to 20 runs of magatsu in one eq

>>167208702
Su always did good damage, su/gu is just broken in the right scenario

>>167208017
This is them optimizing it so that they can skip the cube phase.

Sega didn't expect people to be able to burst Mother that hard during the brief moment before the cube phase.

>Doing less damage than Kemicho
Literal trash

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>>167189981
What are you implying

>>167202247
The parts being in 'shock' state take double damage, and end attract hits one part 3 times.

>>167188001
Wait, why is breaking the turrets bad?

>>167212457
Free super treatment

>>167212457
Summoners can`t charge marons on it, also no free super treatment.

>>167212605
>>167212582
Eh, who cares. SU should not go the left path anyways.

>>167212754
>su should not go to the left path
How`s that 3 runs going for you

>>167212457
I'll break them if I'm fi, because i'll get poisoned in the process. If someone can't super treatment me in the 20 seconds that i'm poisoned, they don't deserve it.

>>167212605
>implying that there's anything but melee in eqs now

>>167212924
>I'll break them if I'm fi
Do you hate free crazy heart and crazy beat?

>>167210083
Who?

>>167212056
You'd be doing like 300k per end attract at most if he doesn't move around too much
A normal non-titled drago has 1.3m hp on the shield, the titled one from the eq would have more and he dies in like 20 seconds so yeah good luck with that

>>167212847
Great, because all the good boss killers immediately run to the shiteasy left path and then have to wait minutes while the left over Katana BRs and Bouncers slowly work through the bosses on the right.

>>167212924
Thank Kimura for all the hunter subs leveling in EQs.

>>167213246
Summoner is the best class for clearing the left side, are you one of the people that never played it?

>>167213485
They are great on the right side too and that one is significantly more annoying. Literally any comp can kill the bugs on the left with time to spare, you could throw 6 TE at it and they'd still melt. Going to the left if you are somewhat capable is absolute retardation in pugs, in organized runs you'd obviously balance it out according to what you have

>>167213695
Right side don`t have turrets for maron chaining, though.

>>167213774
Right side has those archer dragon dudes that rain poison from the sky, it charges Maron even faster than turrets.

>>167213774
>chuck a maron at the golds or double
>go back to the turrets to charge another one
sounds retarded and slow

>>167213891
>charges maron faster than turrets
Nah.

>>167213891
It's definitely not faster and you have to kill those guys, unlike the turrets.

>>167213939
It does though. Are you stupid? Takes like half a second of holding him to get to stage 3.

>>167214005
That's impossible because the poison rain takes like 2 seconds to even start doing any damage, and then it ticks in 1 second intervalls.

>>167164463
>>167162575
Thanks guys, I'll look into these when I get a chance :D

>>167213129
I'm not going to go out of my way to go back and get statused when I can just activate limit break for both to proc.

>>167213236
I'd do it to prove you wrong, but I don't need any RAcubes so I'm not touching RA again until level 80 cap. You might think this is a copout excuse and that I'm just talking shit with nothing to back it up, and that can't be helped. I did a shitload of amduscia ult, and the o nly real factor in "how much he moves around" is dependant on who has the hate and why they're running away like a sissy.

>>167213259
Thanks kimura.

>>167214489
But you are going out of your way to break them you colossal retard. Limit break has downtime.

>>167214489
So you're just theorycrafting and have not even tried it, good to confirm you have no idea what you're talking about

>>167214697
It's not really going out of my way, I just straight charge through them all and get poisoned in the process.

>>167213914
It`s retarded and fast, you don`t use it on double room.

>>167215078
It is, you should just ignore them and go up to kill the 2 mobs on the hill instead of wasting time on breaking turrets and actively harming any Fo, Te or Su.

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Hello /pso2g/

I see someone has posted logs with me in it.
Am I doing good damage now?

>>167215234
You did it, yayo. You're a killer now.

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>JPs get 8 runs per Christmas EQ
Get rekt OH

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gO7uemm6Yo

>>167216892
No shit

>>167208017
>>167202189
>the only way sega can encourage people to play this immensely homosexual class is by buffing it to oblivion
me and plenty of other fags called it long ago
seems we were right after all

So what classes actually can make decent use out of the 5 extra skillpoints?
stuff like GURA already has enough SP to take all the decent skills.

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I did it.

>>167217494
GU can always use more SP. RA sub not really, but 5 more levels is still a bunch of stats.

>>167217665
>not 200+

go big or go home fag

>>167217665
How much did this bad boy cost?

>>167217665
I probably would have waited a week and went with Astral Soul from the Ray Weapon revival, still nice though. Good job

>>167217905
You would have wasted a 6 copies of a ray weapon and the cost of grinding it up for 2pp and some hp? On a TMG of all things?

>>167217751
200 is the next goal.

>>167217812
Around 30m all things considered
Elegant: 12m
Emper fodders: saved from eqs
Tiro: 13m
Mod: Lucky drop from choco
Shoot V: 3m
Weak comes on fornis already.

>>167217905

My last plan for astral ended in tears. I was considering it but also wanted to see how Union stuff ends up. Besides I don't really need the pp on the tmgs and almost did apprentice soul instead.

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r8

>>167217253
(you)

>>167217665
the fact you can put that much on there is absolutely fucking disgusting.

>>167217751
the fact you can suggest that makes me want to puke on you.

>>167218714
It could have been way more disgusting if he used weapon factors as well.

>>167218469
Was expecting a little more than that, nicely done. I kind of wish I could all in on a class like that but playing all classes means there's always something that needs to be affixed and I don't play/jew enough to have more than 150m at a time.

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Someone have a decent guide to affixing nowadays? All the stuff I'm finding looks old.

>>167218949
fucking this
I need a guide to affix weapon/units to something like 130~150atk with decent amount of PP

>>167219338
I also would like a cheap PP focused affix with the new abilities and souls.Like 80/12 or similar with more pp

>>167218949
That one was made by a faggot, just look at that resolution, it's as though it was made to be posted in the bumped comments section or something. The old ass how to 4s you're shit is way better.

>>167219338
There are many ways to do it, it's a matter of how much you're willing to pay to get the extra.

>>167220029
>>167218949
>>167219338

What about the one on fulldive.nu? It's from 2015, though.

(won't let me post the link for some reason.)

>>167220029
Guy who made it here, I only did it because I literally used the old 4s guide as a reference. It started out reasonably shaped, but as I realized I needed more space, the easiest way to do it was just to expand it downwards. Which resulted in something like 1024x20000

>>167219338
I could try this again (with my new-found knowledge of proper resolutions) with something like that, though my ability to make step-by-step images is probably more limited. I don't have the cash to throw around that high of an affix for the sake of a guide. It'd likely be almost way longer though, given the amount of individual steps that need to be detailed at a dummy-level.

There's a ton of different options for that kind of affix too. Which is best definitely can vary with event timings, class choice, etc.

>>167218949
I got it.

http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?特殊能力追加

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>>167219338
Edited my shitty attempt to recreate the old 4s one from back before ult amd was a thing.

Now references the correct souls now that ult amd is out. Probably still shit. Only shows one way, misses a lot of things, etc,

>>167220704
i would rather same slot on non-boost week

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>Remembers people calling Neek a shitter here
I fucking hate you niggas

>>167221469
Everyone that ever opened this thread is a shitter.
No exceptions.

>>167221841
Speak for yourself

>>167220704
nice

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>>167219908
80/15 is pretty easy to achieve. I did this for my poverty Braver to run tacos with, you can mutate this into a legitimate affix with a little bit more effort or meseta.

Something like Act the Soul/Power IV/Spirita IV/Love Fever/Noble Power is 110/13.

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Praise be lilipa.

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It's barely been an hour, I only have 3 open slots on my friends list.

>>167187824
Go play Ultimate Amducia if you want the arm unit so bad.

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Been away for months, since around Yamato or whatever, the ship EQ.
What have I missed?
What is 704?
What is the current best rifle?
What has changed about Ra/Hu?
My team rightfully abandoned me, so it feels kind of lonely logging in now.

>>167226401
>What have I missed?
A new EQ called mother
>What is 704?
non expert stats, clear heaven and hell XQ stage 1-5 and pick up the title to get in those blocks
>What is the current best rifle?
Astra. from the mother collection files
>What has changed about Ra/Hu?
absolutely fucking nothing.

>>167221469
What do you expect from a fucking general? Fucking civil conversation and theorycrafting? Theorycrafting is a casual shit game like this?

What's the best Hu Astra weapon?

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>>167226680
>mother collection files
Here I go again.
>heaven and hell
Kill me. I kept failing right at the end last time I tried. Maybe I am retarded.
>nothing
Excellent. Thank you.

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The fights against the "human" bosses are pretty interesting. Do they ever appear outside of story mode though?

>>167227030
Percent girl, moncole chick and the old guy are probably all dead.

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>>167227224
So is Mom, apparently. They managed to get Aru out of her just fine though, so maybe we'll get her back once we kill Ardem.

>>167226970
Astra Sword, I'd say. Most common to actually use basic attacks with Sacrifice Bite means you're getting a lot of mileage out of on-hit regen. Weapon swapping destroying Sacrifice Bite buff encourages self-sufficiency.

Second place would be Astra Partizan, IMO. Vol Graptor combos are fairly fast and eat both a lot of gear and PP, something basic attacks solve. Might be out-classed by Austere, given the need to wait for animations to complete.

Astra Wired Lance is sus considering how PP efficient Holding Current is, the infrequent basic attacks are for gear regeneration rather than PP regen most of the time. Plus, Union Wired Lance on the horizon is a strong contender for top wired lance, if the damage pot is competitive. Damage mitigation pot is something Wired Lance loves.

>>167227008
>failing at the end
I'd say you are, but eh. Do this as RA: craft parallel slider type zero, and divine launcher type zero.
Stage 1: just run around in circles for 40 seconds avoiding being (even though you can pass this without doing that as ra), then kill the nyaus.
stage 2: just end attract knightgear/dragon ex, and wb giggle's shoulder > sat cannon it when he's all iced up.
stage 3: this was the diabo stage right? don't even bother trying to clear the stage order, you're wasting your time. Just kill all the darker birds and then kill ringa, followed by killing all t he agnis etc. and then diabo with a facelock.
Stage 4: This stage is so free. Use diffuse shell with rifle to kill the starting enemies that actually move, then just regular shoot > diffuse the enemies that turn around with a huge weak point on their stomach.
Stage 5: use nifta, charge an end attract, end attract gal once or twice bam you're done.

>>167227465
I wish Aru would just fucking die.
What a piece of shit useless cunt of a character.

>>167227612
Okay, sweet. Thank you. Gonna try and work on it now.

Yuuki Kaze/Ice Tact 2017 worth getting? 5% dmg reduction and 10% hp per 10 is alot better then nothing and the resta boost I think.

>>167227008
Ra changed just a little actually, an indirect buff in form of a ring. You may want to grab the non-weak ring for your launcher and grind it out, it makes it so much better.

is ult dragon ex arm unit good?

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I got an untekked Fornis TMG (the one run I wasn't carrying my vraolet thank jesus)
The question is, do I tekk it light element?

>>167232083
You tek it whatever the hell element you want, tryhards be damned

>>167232083
Yes.

>>167232131
>please make the same mistake I did
Pay up the 6m for the light ele changer, dumbass.

>>167232083
Unless you want to use it right now I would hold off on tekking it until the next raid boss's element is confirmed. Chances are high he's only weak to Dark which will fuck all the idiots only having Light weapons over hard

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>>167233071
Aren't dark changers cheap? I got some anyway
>>167232131
>>167232983

>>167232983
But Mommy takes more damage from Wind than Light and who the fuck cares about anything else.

How do I play RA properly?
>inb4 weak bullet slave
I know this much already.

What's this recent GU memery?
Stop playing GU you fucking assholes

>>167233489
Spamming End Attract is the only way to do decent damage

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>>167233508
I vaguely remember.
>GU was OP
>Everyone plays GU
>Magatsu releases and BO was shiny
>Everyone is BO
>FI is bad
>Less sighting of FI and stuff
Now
>BO is bad dps now and never-ever updated
>30% mpa has them
>FI is now better raid boss killer
>Nobody plays FI
>FO is the OP
>Almost only 10% plays it
>BR bow is saved
>Everyone is playing nodps katana
>GU is meme now
>GU/HU fags is always present

>>167233489
Use WB on the right targets, don't waste any shots, but plan it out so you can reuse WB as soon as it comes up again. Pop Massive Hunter whenever you are in danger of getting hit while charging, use crafted Parallel Slider for movement and trash that dies quickly, use Sneak Hit to set up JA and Standing Snipe for your fully charged End Attracts or Satellite Cannons whenever you didn't already get in position via Slider. Whether you use EA or SatCannon depends on the enemy and weakpoint location, it's usually very easy to tell which is better.
Ignore launchers, they are better now but still not as good as properly played rifle.

>>167233621
What should I use for rings?

>>167233774
nonweak bonus for launcher
I don't think there any other must have rings for RA

>>167233740
Thank you! That helps a lot.

>>167233740
>ignore launchers
This is some fine pso2g advice right here.
Btw hu only needs wired lances
And fi only needs gunslash

>>167233932
They are literally only good for mobbing and building PP if you don't have an Orbit Rifle.

>>167233984
And rifles are literally only good for bossing and shooting weak bullets.
Better ignore rifles too! Gunslash only real weapon.

>>167233932
ok luna

>>167234087
Rifles are plenty comparable to Launchers for mobbing though. There isn't many situations where you'd use Launcher over it.

>>167234170
Really good pso2g advice again, rifle is best for mobbing.
Thank you for your fine words, now I can paraslider everything and know that launcherfags are stupid special snowflakes and rifle is the ultimate weapon excelling in both mobbing and bossing.
Also, LFM forest exploration. Rockbear is kicking my ASS

>>167234445
>Slider
lol

>>167234445
hit me up
I'm FO/HU (with maxed survivability because being dead = 0 dps) I got myself a nice light rod but I find Namegid to be a very good mobbing tech because it does so much damage.

>>167234524
It shoots lots of bullets like a machinegun, you noob.

>>167234590
o3o I'm scared
I think we need another tank

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>/pso2g/ think that launchers are actually good

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>pso2g thinks

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>pso2g

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>pso2g

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>pso2g

>>167234917
>someone saved my OC double (female (male))

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>pso2g """"""""""""""""""""gameplay"""""""""""""""""""" """"""""""""""""""""advice""""""""""""""""""""
I don`t have enough quotations for this.

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I am free tomorrow
maybe we could get drunk and have fun?

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rip oh-chan

>>167236145
What do you mean by fun?

>>167236542
do fun things etc...

>>167236505
what happened?

>>167236684
What do you find fun?

>>167201993
All the best players are on 150 atk units though faggot

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mother pls drop me something ffs

>>167232983
Why would I pay for it? I have multiple of each element changer in storage that I'm going to resell later. I don't have a huge amount of money to be spending on +35ing multiple copies of the same weapon to make someone else happy, since I'm busy spending it on new units instead.

>>167236998
Playing video games mostly

>>167237289
What're you drinking?

>>167237421
His own cum

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>>167237421
Just beer
Maybe I'll get something else later

>>167237949
Put top left figure on your mousepad and hotglue it
Now!!

>>167237998
fuck no
The mousepad is impossible to wash

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Oh hai, returning Phantasy Star player here. What are the best ships to play on for English speakers?

>>167240041
It's better not to play with English speakers

>>167240041
2
Some of them are alright. Don't go to block 1.

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mistake

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Ded as fug

New player here but whenever people in this general and discord say the game is dead it translates into = None of my friends are online when im online so therefore this game is dead and shit?

>>167243573
Bingo. and because people from here don't want to be associated with people from here, it's hard to become friends and thus the cycle continues.