World Of Warcraft General - /wowg/

Is that guild on Sargeras legit /wowg/ guild or is it just some guy spamming? Is Sargeras a pvp server?

I have every class at 100+ as horde. I'd be willing to transfer a character to alliance but I hate most of the races. The only ones I like are:
Dorf Shaman
Dorf Paladin
fem Nelf Druid
Worgen Warrior

>>167126881
No the only wowg guild is on Illidan horde and its named <This Game is SO Hard>

>3 posts
I think its time we make another thread guys

WHen the fuck are they going to nerf Heroic Gul'dan

/ourguys/ keep wiping and they are accomplished and successful raiders

>>167128425
>accomplished and successful raiders
you mean memespouting shitposters? cause u gaiz r pretty gud at that.

>>167127875
Aren't normies raiding around now, or just finishing up?

>>167128373
Fuck off.

:3!

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What class would Falconhoof be?

>>167128425
never

Most fun spec for each class? Starting to get bored with my main, respeccing/rerolling ahoy

so i stopped playing in early november, i was mm hunter, 860 ilvl. i consistently was doing 275k+ dps in heroics and mythics

i am back playing, 869 ilvl, and am now BM. i just did 200k on nithogg, which is just straight dps. im not doing over 225k in heroics or mythics.

what the shit?? i've mained a hunter since wotlk so it's not like i completely forgot how to play...

>>167128648
We;; ypir obviously doing it wrong

>>167128597
OPEN SARCOPHAGUS

>>167128692
i don't understand what could be "wrong", bm literally has 3 moves, 2 oh which have CDs

>>167128623
Frost DK
Fire Mage
Destruction Warlock
Outlaw Rogue
Disc Priest (shadow is great too)

Not knowledgeable enough about the other classes in this expansion. But I do know that Ret Paladin is more fun than it looks, and Demon Hunter is less fun than it looks in my limited experience

>>167128827
>DK
>Fun

Anon, that's a lie. It's kinda boring.

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>pvp this expansion

>>167128817
>Artifact Weapon Skill
>Dire Beast
>Kill Command
>Serpent Sting
>A Murder of Crows

Literally 6

>>167128817
Hunters are kinda meh now anyways.

Just play Shadow Priest. They remain disgusting.

>>167128907
>artifact gives pet
>dire beast dont get
>no serpent sting
>murder of crows dont get

it's just kill command, dire beast, and cobra shot with bestial wrath and aspect of wild whenever up

>>167128874
DK has been my favorite class since Wrath.

I don't pvp much though. DKs are immobile as fuck as seem bad in pvp.

>>167128648
Don't let people tell you that your dps is low because BM is low on the sim meters. Those meters are a useless meme. Especially for hunters because they always overperform because they have full mobility from range.
The issue is probably with your gemming/enchanting, pet management, ability priority, or maybe something stupid like fps or latency.

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>>167128993
Its called Cobra Shot sorry.

Here is Icyveins, which the Hunter Discord points at because Azortharion keeps all 3 Icy Veins pages updated as their main source of info

Your more than welcome to go >IcyVeins but thats the site all the Hunter Theorycrafters keep updated

t. 90+ percentile Beast Master/Marksman Hunter

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>>167128906
>Legion pvp

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The Diary and Adventures of Samhaich Shatterjaw

Day 1: Arrived in Anvilmar and collected my family's heirlooms. I didn't expect so many items, but I'm sure I'll make use of them. While trying them on to make sure I didn't need to adjust them, I was asked by a guard to help in the area with some problems. He said he'd pay me, and I like gold. So I agreed.

They've been having a Trogg problem, which wasn't a problem for me. I've fought bigger and tougher Troggs at home, so I took their coin for such a simple task. Apparently the guards however, are not as seasoned as I though. I was asked to hand out aid to guards, GUARDS! Like I was some healer. While I objected to this, I knew I'd need the money, so, I did this simple task.

Once the Troggs had been dealt with and I had a few ales, a friendly smiling face in the tarvern asked if I could help them too, for a little pay, but not much. After discussing the task, I agreed, it seemed simple enough, there were some relics and artifacts that had been dug up, but lost due to people running away from troggs. So, for the easy pay and the promise of a free drink I left to gather up as many as I could find. As I left I was asked to gather some ale for the bar I was helping to turn into an empty bar. I probably shouldn't have agreed to this, but, it seemed fair.

By Thaurissan's beard my hands are cold! Digging through snow gently to find artifacts doesn't seem worth it to me. Not for the pay I was given. I'm going to have a beer and some boar then find a bed to sleep in. I need to rest after that.

>>167129250
>Icyveins

Fucking embarassing

>have 1 friend in the whole world
>joined his guild a few weeks ago
>he's mad at me the past few days and i don't know why and he won't even talk to me
>feel too awkward and upset to even log on wow in case he's on cause i know he'll just be mad that i'm even there
i haven't felt so alone in a while, literally want to kms bros

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>>167129425

Day 3: YESTERDAY WAS AMAZING! I learned some new skills from Thran as we ran some errands for people he knew. We collected boar meat, wolf hide and some stupid Gnome lost his tools! That's when it got interesting. We found some Trolls. Actual live, from the Horde Trolls! We observed them for a while and were eventually spooted. They seemed indifferent to us being there and Thran told me it may be best to wait and see what happens. Then Thran heard a soothsayer, which is like a troll priest or something, talking about how they'd take over the valley and move north. This is when Thran without warning charged in. We must have cut down hundreds of them! We found the trolls had the Gnome's items. We lifted them and were about to leave when we head another soothsayer speak of Grik'nir the Cold. Speaking about how he would get help from an elemental to win the Trolls furture battle. Thran insisted we find and kill this Grik'nir.

We found him in the back of a cave which we named Frostmane Hovel. He was not as easy to dispatch as the other trolls he had fought to get to him. Once we had killed him, we noticed an elemental, and not knowing if they had struck their deal, we attacked. As we rushed it yelled 'T MA TORO NUK KRAST'VEN FMERK'. I have no idea what this means, I hope to one day know.

>>167129498
Sorry. Make another friend. It will be okay

>>167129569

We headed back to Anvilmar where Thran told the tale of our battles that day. People were drinking and cheering and jeering. It was a great night. We spoke of the trolls and the defeat we had handed them. More guards would be arriving from Ironforge to deal with this. After a long night of drinking and eating I found myself in bed. Thran has asked me to do a favour for a friend tomorrow, a Gnome named Springsprocket.

>>167129654

day 4: Upon waking I decided to make haste to Sprinsprocket. I felt I owed Thran something for all he had taught me in battle and his tale getting me accepted in Anvilmar. When I tried to leave, the bar maiden, Jona Ironstock asked me to take a delivery to Kharanos and to also deliver a note asking for deliveries for Anvilmar. I find her beautiful, like a morning over the Loch at home. Peaceful and calming. I agreed to her request.

I tried to leave Coldridge by the tunnel I used to enter, but as I left it collapsed in front of me. Suspect it was the Troggs who done this!
Springsprocket told me not to worry, there was another way out if I was brave enough for it! Me? Of course I am!
I fear I may have spoken too soon. It's a Gnomish flying machine. I don't like this one bit. It's gonna blow up, I just know it. If it hadn't been for Jona showing up to wish me farewell, I would have just stayed there or dug through the tunnel.

Landed in Kharanos, thankfully in one piece. I delivered the note and request for supplies. Letting people know about the collapse in the tunnel. Turns out, it happens fairly often.

A nice wee surprise for me. The goods I was asked to carry by Springsproket were actually supplies for me. Sadly I have no used for them and I can't find anyone who does. I sold them to a vendor and used the money to buy a Rhapsody Malt. I recieved a letter from my mother asking how I was and what I'd been doing. I must remember to reply. I'll continue my questing tomorrow.

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>>167129738

day 5: Today was eventful. I hunted wendigos and made some trips to Gol'Bolar quarry. I've been asked to go to Ironforge to deliver some items. I really do not wish to do this. Ironforge has always made me nervous due to the looks I get having some Dark Iron blood. Then of course, they want me to fly there which I also hate.

I've been speaking to blacksmiths and miners around here, asking for good spots to mine and hints and tips on how they blacksmith. I'd like to see if I can improve on my mother's abilities and knowledge. I think she'd be proud of that most of all. Tomorrow I'm going to head home to Thelsamar. I've not been gone a week, but it appears I can help the northern border with wetlands with what I've learned already.

Day 6: I arrived in Loch Modan, north of Thelsamar, and right away a guard grabbed me and sent me against some bears causing problems and some kobolds. He noted my skill seemed surplus to their requirements and threw me on a ram heading for the wetlands. He said I'll need my mining pick there. I was hoping to see my mother, but this pays well and I've asked the guard to pass along a letter to her.

>>167129613
i'm trying but a lot of people i am friendly with i met through him so
i tried adding people from wowg but i'm too awkward to really have a conversation with someone i don't already know well

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>>167129853

Day 10: It's been very busy these past few days. I've ran into some Horde. I can see why The Alliance exists, they were brutal and without mercy. I was lucky to escape with my life. They caught me digging in Whelgar's Excavation site. I didn't hear the undead sneak up on me. If it had not been for me sneezing I'm sure he would have got away with my head.

Day 17: I've been in Menethil Harbor for over a week recovering from my injuries. I have not recieved any letters from my mother which is unusual for this length of time. When I get the chance I'll head home.

Day 21: having worked hard I have exhausted all the jobs I can do here in the whole of the wetlands. It's been quite, but I've been so busy working I forgot to eat today. I'm starting to wonder if maybe I should have listened to my mother and stayed home as a blacksmith.

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>>167129983


Day 22: I'm going to head to Refuge Point in Arathi. I hear there are jobs there for people like me willing to do them. Apparently less than ethical, but pay very well.

Arriving at refuge point it's bleak, but the humans here seem to be in good spirits. They always seem that way. They don't care about my dark iron blood, they are just happy im not picking a fight with them.

The first job I was offered was to hunt down, and if need be, kill some rogue humans not loyal to any crown who have been stealing and hurting people all over arathi, mainly travellers. I don't like this idea, but I'm going to need the money, my armour really needs repairs.

--- A chunk of pages are missing, looking to have been torn out quickly ----

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>>167130112

Day 312: I'm still on the run from the Alliance. I've stashed some of my diary inside a cave in the hopes that if anyone finds this, they can find the rest and see the truth of this.

I was set up in Arathi by the then current commander of Refuge Point. He sent me to kill humans he deemed rogues and in need of a firm hand. I tried to reason with the humans I was sent to 'teach a lesson' but they wouldn't listen, they thought I was a dark iron dwarve sent in to kill them. I acted in self defence.

Upon returning home shortly after this having decided to become a blacksmith and the life of a warrior wasn't for me afterall, the guards from Stormwind itself came for me, claiming I had comitted murder and treason against the alliance. When I stood up quickly to leave, a nervous young gaurd fired his crossbow hitting my mother, wounding her mortally. After that I don't remember how, but when I came too, they were all dead, and I was bloody and bruised. I've been running ever since. My missing pages can be found in the cave in the borean tundra. there was a tower to the south, ruined and falling apart. In the water there-in i found a crevice. In that crevice it was dry, but not warm. I found and egg and placed my page entries under it. I do hope if it hatched, it doesnt ruin my pages.

this game sucks

>run +12 for weekly chest
>reset night arrives
>get 885 ring
>I have two legendary rings
Next week
>run +13 for weekly chest
>reset night arrives
>get 890 ring

This game is taking the fucking piss. And it's not rng. The week i get legendary legs on my rogue, i get legs from class hall chest. The week i get legendary bracers on my rogue, i get bracers from the chest the next two weeks.

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>All the top raiding teams are full of female characters

Really makes me rub my cranium

>>167130606
I haven't gotten anything usable lately either. This week I got shoulders while I already have tier shoulders. Other weeks I always seem to get stuff with high haste on it which is the worst possible stat for rogues.

I got my 4pc last week so I ditched tonights raid since I really don't need anything

Is my guild right to be mad at me?

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>>167130770
>Did a +15 the week before last
>Got an ilvl 900 relic from the chest
>Reduces the Cooldown of Cloak of Shadows by 3 seconds

>>167129250
fucking braindead shitters re-nerfed when

>>167130724
It's almost as if people who have enough to time to constantly raid and enough autism to be DA BEST are sweaty manchildren who live with their parents and pretend to be girls.

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boobs

>>167131183
how can use boobie mod

>>167130865
Yes, you should be permanently benched.

>>167126564
what did he mean by this?

>>>/v/366010795

>>167130261

Holy shit, got a pet here!

>>167131412
Are people really shocked by this

>>167131412
>Blizzard makes legendaries required for every class to raid
>Blizzard adds a catchup mechanic for legendaries
wtf i hate blizz now
who could have seen this coming

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>>167130770
>got a 890 neck
>"nice, I can finally replace my 860 piece of shit"
>1000+ versatility
>I am DPS

>tfw got top 2 legendaries for my class/spec as 1st and 2nd
>now all these bad luck casuals will be able to match my achievement with no effort

PRO UPRISING when?

People still play this game? Im amazed that threads arent booming now that new raid is out.

>>167132295
The non-homo furries are too busy actually playing.

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>he plays a class that isn't melee

>>167132413
am homo furry
my progression is better than urs fagoli

>>167131691
>>167131412
>blizzard releases system
>they release a bunch of bandage patches instead of admitting the dun goofed

>>167132440
Me on the left
>>167132482
No

>>167132482
Shut up bearheart

>>167132550
not bearheart, my prog is better than his too

>>167132550
Bearheart isn't a furry

>>167132578
sorry I didn't realize you were mythic nighthold 7/10 like myself

>>167132820
yeah bb i'm in midwinter

>no guilds cleared Mythic NH in the first week
Is this raid saving WoW?


Also I'm bored and want to roll an Alliance alt, what server should I make it on?

>>167133363
yea pretty much
reminder the later half of the bosses numerous guilds were forced to 3 heal hell even some 2 healed

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>guildmate whispered me that he got caught jerking it to his mother's panties
>now has a bloody nose from his dad beating the hell out of him and couldn't make the raid

I mean he's degenerate but I feel bad for him. On the other hand, we needed him tonight for our Nighthold progression. We barely got anything done since he's the main tank lol...

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I am done with this game if they don't announce a way to target specific legendaries in 7.2 and if 7.2 doesn't release in March at the latest.

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What do you think lads?

Simc sims EoC higher than Horn for my toon but the DK reddiscord lists horn higher

Also I have the kara chest that empowers EoC so maybe that's enough to put it ahead.

>>167133715
I'm gonna need some proof.

>>167133931

>elvui

>>167133931
horn a million times
unless you have the nb chest on

>>167133931

Horn for general fights.

Eye for pure ST fights. Such as the red big guy and early fights.

>didn't get BiS from kara
>2 runs of EN left

wish me luck lads

>>167133931
what de fug is that layout

random shit just chucked wherever the fuck

can i tame the trash mob skorpions in nighthold or no

>>167133931
There's too much target switching in NH for Eye to be effective and Horn synergizes with Breath of Sindragosa amazingly which you would realize if you weren't a mouth breathing retard.

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>a fucking mythic guild on arthas poached a third member from my guild.

When is this other guild going to stop having its way with my life.

>>167134883
movin on up

>>167133931
>347 ST on a 892 equipped with belt

am I reading this wrong or what?

>ask for help killing a shaman and dk camping moonguard stronghold stopping me from doing dailies
>get told to shut up and stop playing on a pvp server

yeah i'll just 2v1 2 classes with heavy cc I fucking hate this community

How do you make gold so easily on this expansion? I'm struggling to get 100k while I'm see others with literally millions.

>>167135182
Look at his keybinds. He's a clicker.

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Time to reroll DK

>>167135182
>>167135347

those 1 man raids though

>>167135369
I really hope you get a random color each time

too bad Unholy fucking sucks dick still and probably still will in 7.2 with those god awful new traits. 30% increased damage on an ability that does less than 2% of my damage over an entire fight and 3 worthless runes that I don't need since Unholy is already swimming in resources.

>>167135182
I mean not to defend this obviously god awful player but the belt isn't even that good compared to the bracer, ring, and helmet.

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>>167135338
you go back in time to when you could make good money from gathering professions and were getting literally thousands of gold from picking one herb node.

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>>167135347
I am a clicker too, and I just tested on my 882 equppied dk (that I abandoned for havoc because I hate breathbuild) with only helm and memeneck

I do 400k sustained and 500k+ burst.

>>167135338
Sell Mythic+ or raid carries to retarded sitters.

>Be Assassination Rogue
>Have good single target but no AoE and trouble target swappig
>Get nerfed
>Get nerfed
>Get nerfed again
>Another nerf
>Have shit single target, no AoE and trouble target swapping

Thanks Blizzard.

>>167135369

>a shitty, cartoony, slightly less low polly model is enough to convince you to reroll

embarrassing

>>167135369
if anything this just made me steer further away from unholy tbqh, the only color that looks good is the red one too.

>>167135767
Sin rogue is still good ST but you need a LOT of mastery and good leggos

>tfw you get the crackling jade lightning legendary chest

Might as well delete my character and start over

>>167135838
>Agonizing Poison application no longer increases Kingsbane damage by twice the listed amount.

Not anymore lol.

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Will goblins finally get their model update in the next expansion?

>>167135876
Wait did they really do this
WHY

>>167135698
>he relogged just to beat my murky murloc world quest dps

lol

>Liked assassination and survival in WoD
>Legion comes out
>Hate beast mastery, hate marks, hate survival, hate assassination, hate outlaw, hate Subtlety, hate elemental, hate enhance, hate resto, hate frost, hate arcane, hate fire, hate unholy, hate blood, hate frost, hate arms, hate prot, hate fury, hate havoc, hate veng, hate windwalker, hate brewmaster, hate mistweaver
>Don't want to level yet another class just to not enjoy playing it at cap
I never thought id say this but i miss draenor

>>167135921
Because fuck rogues you're meant to reroll DH and do better ST DPS, better AoE, and better burst with more mobility and just generally be better at everything.

>wipe on elisande HC for 3 hours straight
>get laughed at because of my vanilla UI
:(

>>167136023
God they really are trying to fucking kill rogues aren't they

>>167135698
>clicker

literally how and why

on >elvui
can someone please tell me where i go to disabled this and the my targets version

thanks

>tfw finished 4pc AND got cake on my MW tonight

>>167136365
Not him but, I click some buttons that I don't really need to have a keybind for like out of combat rez and stuff, but all my DPS buttons I use keybinds

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>>167136376
forgot pic

>>167136451
Like, I can get that, but how on earth do you comfortably hit your buttons while moving

or is it people can't be bothered binding abilities

>>167136540
>can't be bothered binding abilities

mostly this, I have been clicking away and using nothing but default vanilla UI since BC

>>167136529
/ec
Install
Click through with the Continue button until you get to the Auras panel
Select Icons Only.

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>>167136389
>4pc as heals
how?

>>167136713
s p l i t r u n s

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>mfw I raid on my Surface Book

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>>167136915
one day i might know what even is a 2pc

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>>167136915
>GM giving everyone shit on our first H Gul'dan/M Skorp kills because they're only parsing 50th-70th
>Not jokingly
>Absolutely refuses to even consider doing split run
>Still expects us to compete with DPS in guilds who do them

why do you keep doing raids/dungeons/bgs/arena? is it just to get the next piece of gear, or is it actually fun?

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>tfw two dumb for Weakauras

>>167137217
Its actually fun

except in pvp when you go up against bullshit top tier unga bunga

>tfw im a clicker with cutting edges
BTFO

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why

>>167137116
>tfw you parse 99th on skorp cus
>mw

is holy priest any fun or is it just flash of light spam?

>>167137672
>is X fun or is it only (X's defining ability) spam?

>>167137672
you tell me chuck

>>167137637
I literally stopped doing withered training just because she wouldn't stop fucking talking

>they gave the succubus pants

you can't give a sex demon pants she hasn't asked for

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>>167137771
>885

>>167137824
It's a FEL succubus you can tell its corrupted now because it's wearing pants.

Another week another useless item in the chest

thanks blizzard

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>wod garrison guards scale to 110
>invasion npcs do not
>practically afk
>platinum with minutes to spare

Well, that was a pleasant surprise. I was just looking around for old achievements to do.

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>>167138156
>been actually playing it properly

>>167136612
Try binding the 2 skills you use the most to buttons, then once you are comfortable, add more, repeat this until you are using only buttons for skills.
If you're not comfortable hitting 1,2,3 a lot, try Q, E, F and R.

>>167126881
I actually have all 4 of the choices you picked. I highly recommend playing them.

>>167138545
>tfw procrastinate everything
>even keybinding

this is an unhappy realization

>>167138365
>I tend snow

Are you like a bartender but you tend snow instead of bar?

>>167130724
They don't associate with their game character and have an ass to look at. Win by all accounts.

grind shattrath elites until 105 for easy xp it's almost as quick as invasions

>>167137429
There's probably already a weakaura for what you want to do.
You can just paste the string in and you got it.

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>mfw when the gear meta next tier will be 4 piece T20 and 2 piece T19

get ready for farm those titanforged 2 T19 pieces

>>167136612
>>167138545
>>167138671

>Q E R F
>shift Q E R F
>alt Q E R F
>ctrl Q E R F
>shift up/down
>alt up/down
>ctrl up/down
>shift/alt/ctrl middle scroll-y wheel click
>shift-alt-scroll up
>shift-alt scroll down

>shift-alt etc

lots of options, dont be lazy

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>doing normal progression on trilliax
>same hunter and two rogues keep dying to the first Annihilate beam

>>167138859
not for healers... thank you Drape of Balance

>>167138929
>Drape of Balance
>It's affect isn't balanced at the slightest

top juj

>>167138879

>normal progression on trilliax
>normal
>progression

Jesus christ anon. That shit was pugged first week.

>>167138864
Oh, I know. Most of my stuff was or is keybound, it's just a hassle with how many things I've been playing, or learning to play.

>>167138986
its an ilvl 855 legendary, thats all

>check WQ for today
>5 raw magic for 10 BLOOD mission on my main
>almost made them on my alt
>try confirming the mission exists
>its gone

thanks bliz, at least I didn't waste my aethril yet even though its cheap as fuck

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>mfw doing a PVP FFA WQ and some faggot lucker screamer kid crits me back to back to back

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>>167138879
>normal progression

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>>167139082
>faggot lucker screamer kid

what did he and/or she mean by this?

>Warlords of Draenor invasions

Whoops. Is there a way to quickly check when one has been triggered without actually, like, heading back to your Garrison?

>>167139082
>templates aren't active in world pvp
>it's meant to be like the wild west or something lmao

Suffering.

i miss wod

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>>167138879
>normal progression
>on trilliax
>week 3

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>>167138879
>normal progression on trilliax

>>167138929
Or for people with a legendary in a tier slot
>tfw it's not even a very good one either
Thanks, FoK cape

>>167139453
>human women no longer grow hair on their head
>or have access to make-up

would our species die or

>>167139453
>is she starting to bad? How old is she anyway? 22?

>>167138879
How hard is it to just MOVE AND NOT GET HIT?

I don't understand how so many players are this retarded.

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Are BGs the best way to get to 810 so I can start running dungeons?

>>167131780
Sim yo shit, fool. Vers is good, for some specs, at certain gear levels. I play WW monk, right now my vers sims about 5% lower than mastery, which is about 5% lower than crit, which is my best stat.

does this weekly event count/help with legendaries or it is only purps?

Yo any horde on Sageras here want to make the horde on Sageras great again with me?

>>167139698
Vers seems like it's pretty good for a lot of melee specs, it's mostly caster cucks that hate it

>>167139582
>is she starting to bad?
She's a white women. She was bad from birth

Fun fact

There isn't a single good looking straight sword usable by both factions in the entire fucking game

>>167139647
AH is but since PvP is your first train of thought it seems you are a pvper so you are probably poor
lmao

>tfw +14% cloak in weekly chest

Today is gonna be a good day

>>167132440
I play both. Caster is harder. By a lot. Melee is pure twitch, which any monkey could do. Caster requires thinking ahead. It's far, FAR higher skillcap.

Why do you think you see the top 10% of shadow priests crushing DPS meters, but the bottom 90% are absolute shit DPS? Because it requires skill.

>>167139813
I'm not really a PvPer but this is an old character on a different server from my main and just hit 110 today so yeah I'm poor

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>>167139813
>tfw all the pvpers I know are broke as shit and are constantly asking for gold

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>tired of constantly feeling useless and being at the bottom of the DPS chart
>some fresh 110 with shittier gear than mine did 50k more dps on this last dungeon
>read a spec guide and changed my talents/rotation around
>mfw DPS actually drops drops a little

I'm not allowed to be this shitty when I've been playing for as long as i have. I don't even know where to begin to get good

>>167140054
What spec are you playing anon

>>167140080
MM hunter

>>167140119
Ah, idk how much I can really help then since I don't play a hunter. Try joining your class discord and asking for help in there. Usually if you post your logs someone will be willing to help you go over them.

>>167140119
Oh, condolences.

>>167135767
I know the feel, as a shadow priest.

Literally TWO seperate, CONSECUTIVE ramp-up mechanics, and your DPS sucks until both are rolling.

>Oh, but you do so good on 2-3 target cleave fights that require little movement and have zero RNG....

Go fuck yourselves, bliz.

>>167140235
Dude shadow priests are in a fantastic spot now

And the moving issue is something all ranged classes currently suffer in meleehold

>>167137672
Decent throughput, shit utility.

>it's a ranged dps cry on /wowg/ even though they are still vastly easier and simpler than melee dps


LOL

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>mfw ranged dps are upset they have to work for their dps for once

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I got to 110 and quit because Warlock was tedious shit for no damage, are they still unfun and ineffective? Are Demos still not able to control their extra summons?

>pack of alliance come and help kill a unique world mob that I was soloing
>they let me live and start mounting up
>faggot wild imp hits one for weak damage before despawning
>broke the NAP and get fucked

Just remembering this shit is making me mad.

>>167138864
>not using ESDF
ucking niggger

8 decides my warlock's professions

Does it become easier to maintain Voidform with better gear
I just hit 110 and it feels like I can only keep it up for like literally 10 seconds even with my dots up and using Void Bolt/Mind Blast on cooldown

>>167140423
"Dude shadow priests are in a fantastic spot now" See, people think this is the case because they see raid parses with SP crushing everything. They're ignoring all the ones were we have to move out of a mechanic at the wrong time and it completely tanks our DPS for for well over a minute.

People that say SP's are fine are basing it on what they see from the NARROW FUCKING BAND of fights for which SP's are actually very good. That's like 5% of fights in the game as a whole. Any fight that lasts less than 1 minute, SP is useless. Any mass AOE, SP is useless. Any high movement, SP is useless. Any unexpected interupts or silence or CC of any kind, SP is useless.

Like literally, 5 seconds of not casting, we've just lost half our DPS for a 30-50 second stretch. That's not true of ANY other class.

We seem fine because we only do shit we can do well. We literally can't everything fucking else.

>>167140807
Enchant, tailoring

>>167140814
basically you need to hit 10k haste before you start to do better dps

>>167140742
>>167140750
>melee dps unironically thinking they take skill
>the guys who stick to a boss' ass 24/7 and rarely have to do mechanics
>don't get punished for movement whatsoever
also literally every time someone is messing up mechanics its always a melee because the'yre too tunneled on parsing

>>167140942
>only have 2k
O-oh

>>167140989
actually melee are the ones who have to actually do mechanics. ranged just tunnel

>>167140989
>melee dps unironically thinking they take skill

IKR? I have 3 melee and 3 ranged at 110. Melee are far, FAR easier. Hell, my monk could out DPS any of my casters with about a tenth of the effort. Hell, I play outlaw on my rogue just because Ass is so fucking easy I get bored of it.

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>>167141023
yeah it's a fun game

>Feral Druid are absolute dogshit unless you pick and play the most complicated rotation and talents for them and even then they're still kinda shit and get denied from every fucking raid group now
>Balance is braindead but the dps is only good if you get Dreamcatcher and Fel Essence (although Oneth's Intuition might pick up in popularity with the 7.2 artifact traits)
How do I DPS as a Druid?
Healing is for sluts and I hate having tons of pressure on me as a tank.

>>167141073
no they dont?
a large amount of mechanics don't target melee

>>167141192
sounds like you picked the wrong class my man

>>167141260
yes they do?
a large amount of mechanics only target melee

>>167141192
>How do I DPS as a Druid?

By rerolling monk or DH.

I hear feral buffs are coming... Maybe... Eventually.

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I got the same item out of 2 weekly NH chests

how ?
50 pieces that can drop and i get the same twice

not even WF or TF

>both of my bonus rolls are ap

HAHA EPIC EPIC
LOLL EPIC

why arent these guaranteed pieces?
why cant we have ONE guaranteed way of getting loot?

>>167141558
>it's only 50k AP

What a fucking disgrace

came back from a long break after mop
why is the gameplay so shit broes ? what happened to my spells

>>167141445
Well, that has a 2% chance of happening. You just got lucky, bro.

>>167141672
>>167141558
Shut the fuck up entitled faggots, you get your golds worth.

>>167141765
no

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>>167141765

>>167130606
yeah, with 14 slots of non-weapon gear with most dungeon trinkets being weaker than raid trinkets (some exceptions like countermeasure for ret, or teh BRH trinket for disc), 4 slots of tier, 2 legendaries, it starts feeling really limited to get usable gear, and that's all before 6 different secondary stat combinations (ignoring how heavily weighted into either stat pieces are) often leading to rings/necks being unusable without very preferable stats

I think it wasn't that bad before tier though

I also think we're far enough into the xpac for blizz to really accelerate legendary drop chances

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>>167141765
>you get your golds worth
>1000 gold
>50,000 ap

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>>167142057
>2000 gold
>39 gold 48 silver 31 copper

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>>167142165
>only buy one, sometimes two bonus rolls a week
>with order hall resources
>fort the world boss

Casual ain't so bad, especially with how little there is to miss out on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2kNTY2iPY8

>>167142258
i do hate how alot of the cool gear designs legion put in are locked behind one a week world bosses but its a waste at this point to use a reroll on them.

thank god for the order hall research giving one a week for 25

>complete Kirin Tor WQ in Suramar
>get quest credit bot no AP reward
>use my insta finish WQ item on this quest again
>get quest credit again

fucking blizzard

>tier chest piece drop
>Pretty obvious ilvl upgrade for me or other fdk who both have no pieces of tier yet and need it to fix our broken fucking class
>"Well it's me or him that's cool"
>Quietly goes to mage for whom it's an ilvl downgrade and also has no other pieces of tier
>an officer

Sure love loot council

Honestly nighthold is really comfy. Can't wait to farm that shit for months.

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THIS IS OUR WORLD. NOT THE LEJUNS!!!

>>167140824
Eh no dude I'm a shadow priest and we're in a fine spot

We're good for high m+ with long lived adds
Our aoe is good except for gigantic groups of low hp adds
If the fight is so short you can just run S2M and blow up skada
Movement affects us LIKE EVERY OTHER CASTER out there except we're less mobile, yeah. But 40-45% of our dps (dots) keeps ticking and at high haste it's reasonable to stop a second for a mindblast and use the voidbolt GCD for movement.

We're literally fine. Hell I feel far happier with my SP than my fire mage. The class is reasonably complex, feels good to use and has good damage both single target and aoe.

If you hate it so much you can just reroll. But there really isn't anything wrong with the class right now except the legendary ring not being controllable and missing the chance to spread dots with it.

>5 seconds of not casting and we lose our dps for 30-50 seconds
That is simply not true at all. It takes less than 10 seconds to reenter voidform and get it stacking against first of all, and you can't be 5 seconds without casting unless you get silenced because worst case scenario you can just use voidbolt. Need to be moving for 5 seconds at high stacks? Just use dispersion then.

>>167140942
Dif SP here, but I have a gear question. Should I stack haste up until 12k regardless of ilvl or did 7.1.5 secondary tuning revert that? I have 9k haste right now and my trinks are whispers in the dark and erratic metronome, so I get some haste there. Any advice would be helpful.
For example: is losing 800 mastery on a ring word gaining 400 haste? At what threshold is I'll more important?

>>167143436
Why would rl gear someone they don't trust to stay? Just spend more time in the guild and things should be ok. If you've been in that guild for 5+ months though I'd abandon ship.

>>167139850
No, it requires autistic padding and bugging the fatigue areas in nighthold to never lose insanity and permanently keep voidform.

>>167140119
How do you possibly fuck up the second easiest spec after BM?

>>167143973
This
This raid is great for progression but the padding is downright retarded.

>>167141260
> he didn't run all melee BRH +15 with teeming+skittish+ fortified

>watching pandamonium wipe on elisander
Uhh aren't they "hardcore"? Farming mos all day long? What's the point of doing that if they plain suck anyways?

>>167144165
In raids you fucking goober
I play a melee and yes skittish is shit as a melee but in NH I have to do almost no mechanics

>>167144087
No one cares about your character

>>167144190
> he hasn't done tich, star augur, botanist, or gul'dan

All of those fights fuck melee hard on heroic and above. Hell even skorp and anomaly are harder for melee than ranged on mythic.

But thanks for outing yourself as a casual retard.

>>167144032
That's why the only parse that actually matters is Krosus.

>>167144087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urNyg1ftMIU

>>167144087
Piercings are fucking gross

>>167141073
>Literally all adds are range.
>Literally anything farther than 10y away to grab or soak is range.
>Every debuff that's going to go out is going to be handled by range.
>Every silence, knockback, stun, kick, [disappears behind you], etc. is either going to target or be handled by range.
>Any mechanic that puts shit on the floor and will have to be put in one set spot to it isn't spread everywhere is range 9/10 times.

>Melee
>"Mechanics"

>>167144408
t. assassination roueghe

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>>167144087
>piercings

>>167144346
I'm 10/10 heroic and literally none of those are harder for melee than ranged? You have to peel off the boss sometimes but that doesn't count as "fucking melee hard." Also if you're peeling off the boss on Gul'dan to soak bonds and shit then your ranged are bad.

>>167144486
DH, but basically the same

Nothing personnel, kid.

>this is not my time

>>167144165
Melee is retarded easy in raids. Spellblade? Melee do nothing but tunnel during frost phase then run towards an add (Half the melee fuck this up somehow).

Krosus? Never deal with orb or soak fires.

Trill? Get to tunnel during annihilation.

Skorp? Easy cleave with no ramp let's you pad easily.

The only mechanics melee ever have to deal with is running away from the raid once every 2 minutes (See:Botanist, Krosus). They also get to have instant casts, stronger cooldowns, and a busted fucking trinket.

Melee are dime a dozen, 3 button spamming, spergs. They're just hunters standing next to the tanks.

What did you get in your weekly chest /b/ros?


got a decent 900 relic, pretty happy

>>167144087
please stop posting this

>>167144596
On Gul'dan, it's always tank/healer/range that are sent back anyway. He's literally trying to give himself something to do so he can pretend melee actually have mechanics.

>>167144408
But then fire add padding...

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>>167144087
so is this your stupid character? because if so it's shit

>>167144658
Your ranged have to be pretty incompetent for you to have to do mechanics on some of those fights.

On Botanist our ranged just kill all the adds so I literally sit on the boss.

On Tich there's usually a pillar close enough that you can still hit him during Echos.

On Gul'dan the ranged should be able to soak all the bonds, not to mention rogues/paladins/hunters can solo soak theirs.

Star Augur you do have to run out sometimes but it's not like the ranged don't also have to move. If running away from the boss for a few seconds counts as a "hard mechanic" for this guy then I dunno what to tell him.

>>167144620
>>167144596
>>167144658

All these ranged tears are delicious. Let's just ignore how melee have to literally wade through flames and everything on the ground to kill adds that you autistic casters will die to when you get bonded. Breaking bonds is not a hard fucking mechanic. Managing flames and reaching targets is (unless you're a DH).

I have healed heroic and dpsed into mythic krosus. Ranged and melee get shit on pretty equally. Earlier fights are easier for melee but later fights massively favor ranged.

>>167144913
Do you realize how big the hitbox on the eyes are on Gul'dan? You can practically stand halfway across the fucking platform and still hit them

>>167144620
To be fair witd is a pretty nutty trinket too

>>167144980
No because they blink around every 2 fucking second.

>>167145002
Even when they blink they're still in range dude. I'm telling you, the hitbox is fucking giant

>>167144913
>wade through fire and adds
This sounds an awful lot like range. You wanna know why guilds are consistently looking for range dps and not melee? I'll give you a hint we handle all the mechanics while you brain-dead morons tunnel shit and passively cleave close mobs.

>>167144679
Target switching to 1 shot it is not a dps gain.

>>167145054
>we handle all the mechanics while you brain-dead morons tunnel shit and passively cleave close mobs.
get off your high horse fags. everyone who plays this game is a brand dead moron and 90% of the specs cleave every mob in a 40 meter radius

>>167145054
Pretty sure it's because there are far fewer ranged specs and none of them are nearly as fun as melee so there aren't enough ranged players.

>>167145117
I'll get off my high horse when Blizzard makes an expansion where melee are sought after for most of the mechanics. Until then I'll give you as much shit as I want since you need me.

>>167145048
It really isn't until the p3 eye.

is War or DK more fun?

>>167145201
1. There's no fire on the ground before p3
2. Why would you even switch to the smaller eyes, they die so fast you can easily just cleave them down

>>167143652
Anyone else unironically like Khadgar's over the top nature and general attitude?

He's a pretty cool dude, I'll be sad when he's killed or corrupted.

>>167145201
>casts Seed
>everything gets hit
If my very small yardage spell can passively hit all the eyes on Gul'dan, you idiots can sure as fuck cleave or switch to them without a hitch.

>>167145193
It appears that you are too shit to do high M+ and like to get carried by the rest of your raid. If you had any dungeon experience, you'd realize that the overwhelming majority of shitty mechanics fuck melee up.

>>167145254
> he hasn't done guldan
What is empowered liquid hellfire.

What's a fun melee spec? Tried rogue, hate it. Enhancement, quite boring as well.

I have a warrior, how's Fury?

>>167144793
please stop

>>167145303
Unfortunately, damage for most melee classes requires LOS and the eyes are all around you.

>>167145369
I do my M+ every week, and every week the rogue and WW I run with laugh at me and the healer. Maybe you're just too stupid and up your own ass to actually look at the amount of mechanics range actually have? It's actually almost a burden to bring a range that isn't really, really good at what they do.

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>>167145462
>It's actually almost a burden to bring a range

>>167145542
>t. M+10 master

>>167145385
Just play Havoc.

>>167145462
+2 doesn't count.
Teeming, skittish, necrotic, sanguine, bolstering, and raging all affect melee far more than ranged. Bosses are more varied, but tyrannical on average fucks melee harder than ranged.


I bet you don't even have keystone master.

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You guys think this looks alright?

Any suggestions of a better weapon?

Fire Mage.

>>167145594
>He thinks keystone master is an achievement.
Wow, you're really shit. No wonder you think melee are hard.

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>>167145462
> he legit things dungeons are harder for ranged than melee

le candy mountain reference xD

>>167145619
Looks like shit mate

>>167145638
> proving my point by not having an easy achievement any mediocre player already has

It really makes you think.

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>>167145619

>>167145679
Not an argument, retarded anime poster.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statistics/9#keystone=15
Parse count from most to least. Notice how Spriests and MM are the only ones on there and still take a bit to get to? And that's on piss easy babby mode 15. The only thing I'd bring to a 20 from range is Spriest, no compromises.

>>167145679
Oh, is that still the case? Haven't done the Legion dungeons much yet.

>its a """pug"""
>all members of one guild
>one guild member keeps fucking up over and over
>they dont get kicked
>two others including me get kicked
>sorry, guildies came on
fuck guilds

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As a healer, I fucking hate melee in M+ pugs simply because they always seem to find some fucking way to take more damage than the tank at all times.

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>>167145819
>not doing pugs with your friends

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I play BM and generally parse in the upper 90th percentile for my ilvl (886 atm) but I get constant shit and derision for playing a hunter. I enjoy the competitive aspect of the game but Im starting to believe it's time to move on, so I have one question:

>Which subclass requires the most skill?

>>167145901
>screwing over pugs for your asstarded guildies
yeah dude way to show what an epic guild you are

>>167145793
Nobody in their right minds posts logs for M+ so you're already dealing with fucked sample sizes. If you weren't a complete retard you'd realize that mages, locks, and shamans are very highly desirable in high M+.

Try doing +20 with ask ranged excel tank and then try doing it with all melee. On any given affix, it will be easier with ranged. You can fucking OUTRANGE MOST DUNGEON MECHANICS.

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>go for two months with out loot
>get dh meta lego shoulders
>oh neat. ok.
>two weeks go by
>Heroic Night hold
>Third week in night hold
>not a single coin worked until now
>Get chest tier
>coin convergence
>get two relics
>on guldan heroic
>One shot
>cant wait to see if conq legs dropped
>fucking it drops
>anger of the half giants
>get bis and trifecta equipment
>mfw mythic krosus progression tomorrow

>>167145942
In addition to that,
>fire mage aoe

>>167145558
what did he mean by this?

>>167145794
They're adding a new bursting affix to further fuck melee too. Think arcway spiders, but apply their jihad like behavior to every mob.

>>167145918
Havoc and Feral have the highest melee skillcap (although Havoc also has a higher floor). Spriest is the hardest ranged and Disc is the hardest healing.

>>167146026
Oh, lovely.

Seems almost targeted to fuck over melee. What's the range on it? Wonder if it's 100 yards, dungeon-wide or something.

>>167145942
>try doing +20
I only log 15-20, so you're stupid, first of all.
Second, there's quite a few of us that log M+ so we can allow you all, the dumb shitters that think melee's hard, to know why we bring you over range in the first place.
Third, any range that isn't Spriest is only good until +18, then I'd rather bring UH, DH, or any rogue. Bringing any range besides Spriest in their place is a burden I don't need.
Fourth, I play every role. Hardest to easiest for +20: Tank > Range >= Healer >>>> Melee

Literally the only situation where tanking is harder than any role, and where it's a real, no-kidding BURDEN to bring range.

>>167144641
890 chest so that puts my fire mage up to 881, about to upgrade my second legendary and probably go up to 883 or 884. Good week so far.

>>167145462
>>167145793
>>167146138

You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

>>167146297
You don't.

>>167146346
> even thinking that ranged is fucked harder than melee on +20

This is only maybe true in NL on fortified.

Okay, so say I haven't played since Vanilla when I was a kid and absolute dogshit at the game, and want to come back now of all times, knowing full well what they have done to my precious childhood.

Now let's also say that due to my poor college course choice and following vocational choice that my hands are fucked to the point where I'm probably gonna be a clicker until the day I can grab one of those fancy numpad mice

What class would you recommend restarting as, and is there anyway I'd be able to git gud at keybinding when my hands are so uncooperative that it's a miracle I can use a mouse+keyboard at all

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>want to raid
>behind on AP
>875 ilvl
>everyone wants 885 min to do fucking anything

>>167146421
How about you actually play range instead of making non-arguments, then you'll see why we choose to bring you mouth-breathers over range.

>>167146436
Beast Master spec on Hunters is the way to go. They use maybe 5 abilities in their rotation and don't have to spam them or anything.

>>167146436

So, basically, what's a relatively easy class to be useful with until I can either manage keybinds and mouse movement or become the most effective clicker in the game?

>>167146475
I play elemental and enhancement. 54/44 weapons respectively.

>>167146496

Oh fantastic, and it would make a change from my childhood insistence of shitting it up as a warrior

Cheers man

>>167146461
Since you're clearly a casual, just join a casual guild. You'll probably have no problems getting into a weekly normal nh run.

What's the most fun caster?

Ele shaman or fire mage?

>>167146552
You play elemental and haven't touched half the output of Havoc, let alone done a 20. Give it up, retard.

>>167129250
is there a more braindead spec than this?

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>>167146614
demonology warlock

How is fury warrior?

>>167146614
Ele because it has better sounds and animations. It also makes you feel like you're the avatar.

>>167146632
Havoc is the most busted class for dps, especially with the memeonic build in M+. Ele does incredibly well with lightning rod on mobs that don't die instantly.

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>>167146606
Not actually a casual, I had to quit at the end of October right after my guild killed M Xavius because my life exploded for a bit. Trying to get back into it now, just seems impossible to catch up this xpac.

>>167146761
Then get into a casual guild for a few weeks, gear up, and then ditch them for a non-casual guild. It's what I do after long breaks.

>>167146739
Ele is never coming to anything of mine beyond a +10. You're a terrible meme. I hope Blizzard just kills you off soon.

>>167146614

S-Priest is pure fun

And Priests are pure pure

So even though shadow priests are less pure because old gods, that's still a pure

PURE

>>167146831
Get ready for massive Havoc nerfs in 7.2 and beyond.

If you play this game at Ali you know that blizzard buffs and nerfs massively in cycles. Havoc is at the top of everything right now, even Krosus. Don't expect it to stay that way for long :^)

Someone talk me into playing fury warrior instead of ret pally

>>167146912
That's okay. WW, any rogue, UH, Spriest will all still be better than Ele any day of the week. Even with massive nerfs Havoc will more than likely still be better.

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>>167146761
Wtf retard go get up to like 865 through shitty mythic+ and WQ then go make your own goddamn NH pug for the first 4-5 bosses (easy as fuck), bring 5 coins for extra rolls.

Do this even half-assed successfully for a few weeks and you will have enough gear (at least 875) to join a half-assed decent guild what probably has 1 or 2 in H NH downed.

Literally easy as fuck to gear up now.

>>167146982
>UH, Spriest
> better at high M+ than Ele

lul ok whatever you say

>>167147030
Unholy is unironically one of the best M+ specs. You haven't the slightest clue about anything beyond 20, do you?

>>167146973

Ret pally isn't amazing anymore.

Middle of the pack, good at single target, good at cleave, not amazing at either.

They are solid af, just aren't broken.

>>167147085
That's funny because frost is much better. UH was good for the first month of the expansion, and just recently got a few buffs.

But thanks for outing yourself as a shitter.

>>167135698
>400k sustained and 500k+ burst.
Nice
I do 500k sustained and 800k+ bursts
Confirmed retarded dk player

>>167147143
Yeah, okay.
>t. +15 master, ultimate player, the white shadow, meme lord, wit meister, know-nothing extraordinaire
See you in the funny papers when you finally do a 22 and we've moved on to 49.

>>167147225
Not an argument.

>>167135698
>tfw everyone uses those sword mogs
I hate how it's one of like, ten skins that go on your back and have a good mix of cool and not-retarded.
And we'll probably never see another weapon skin that isn't tied to artifacts ever again.

>>167147225
epic fucking meme dude

kys

>>167147278
>>167147325
Samefagging isn't appreciated by the mods. Stop it.

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fuck fragnance

Finally got around to simming some trinket combos and man EN trinkets really fucking sucked. Stat sticks with much lower ilvls shitting on them.

>Bosses where people in melee range can't see 60% of the model and their damage numbers are offscreen somewhere
Why is this allowed

>>167147363
Neither is rampant homosexuality and funposting, yet here you are.

Can't wait for Trump to gas you useless fucks.

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>>167136409
Stop sexualizing panda's

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Finally got my 2pc last night. Have had awful luck in NH.

What's a fun melee dps?

I want something fun like shadow.

Confirmed not fun:
Assassination
Memepirate

What else?