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Forcibly searched for eyes on the inside: >>167011724

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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How high can you level with a bloodtinge build while still remaining in the 98-117 range before you're just an asshole?
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PURGE FILTH
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>find out I can have my female hunter walk around barefoot
>cant stop jacking off to screenshots of her soles

help
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___, ____
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>>167096283
Also, is there a generally agreed on optimal bloodtinge build?
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>>167096426
wew, lad
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>>167096514
14/15/50 Str/Skl/Blt is all you need. 28 Str for big guns, 30 for normal Cannon, 40-50 Vit, base-20 End. Anywhere within 98-117 is fine.
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>>167096283
97
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The doll is mine
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still looking for someone to help on my Ludwig+Church Pick discovery adventure ;_;

pw is govikes
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>>167096661
See, that's what I mean, I was looking for exact values generally agreed to be the best, I know the general ranges. Are the big guns even worth it? They seem impractical and unnecessary.
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>>167096796
I'll join ya
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Ok guys, how do i Befriending Djura ? i want that brush off dust gesture.
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>>167096796
Where are you ringing at, anon?
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>>167096829
Big guns are fun, Cannons for burst and AoE, Gat for chipping down stuff. It's whatever dude, just go with what you want. The main thing you just gotta have is 50 Blt and min requirements for your weapons with decent Vit.
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>>167096841
>>167096993

hold up, im a retard. didnt have Online on. one sec
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>>167096841
>>167096993

ringing now in Hunters Nightmare. have shortcuts opened
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>>167097261
Cool, I'll be there in a moment m8
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>>167097261
I just beat Ludwig with two other anons people. What the fuck?
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>>167097021
>Big guns are fun, Cannons for burst and AoE, Gat for chipping down stuff.
Sounds like worthless trash you're never going to hit anyone with. Why would you bother with that instead of just getting more vit?
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>>167096829
In that case don't level STR to use them. When your build is done you'll want us to play it for you?
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>>167096842
>run past him
>kill bloodstarved
>get kidnapped by baglords
>kill hypogean gaol boss
>open shortcut after boss
>casually stroll through shitsville, doesn't matter if you kill beasts or not, mad cunt can't see you
>climb up ladder and have a chat
>befriend, get shit
>murder him for his clothes which are useful later on
>and nothing of value was lost
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>>167097309

do you remember how to get to Ludwig from here? i forgot
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>>167097720
I didn't say that, it's just that the lack of respecs means that I'm really wary about putting any points into anything beyond the bare minimum, lest hundreds of hours of playtime go down the drain.
I've deleted 10 characters with 100+ hours played so far because I messed up their builds at some point, so.
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>>167097824
Kek, yeah. We have the return to the river where we fought that trio of Bloodlickers. Just follow me
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>>167096682
I take that back. 95.
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>>167097653
You'd be surprised at how often people get hit by stupid stuff, like a fully charged Kirk R2 or Amy Arm follow up for exemple.
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>>167097983
Banking on your opponent being stupid sounds like a poor gameplan. If something isn't necessary to win, it's not worth using and you're better off bolstering your more consistent and reliable options.
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>>167097653
Where else would you put the points after getting fiddy Vit? Don't knock them till you've tried them, shooting with the Gat makes everyone spam dodges and if they get up close a cannon shot to the ground is almost guaranteed to hit them.
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>>167098131
You can't have 50 vit and 28 strength.
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>>167098115
You sound like you'd use the Saif.
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>>167098131
what if they shoot you out of your gat
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>>167098210
Within the 109-117 range you can.
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>>167098315
What's wrong with that?
You sound like a whiny baby, regardless.
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>>167098115
yeah ok dude just use the most optimal build in the world with perfect everything. just go to 150, the true meta
you wouldn't even be using a blt build if that was the case. what's the point of you posting
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>>167098340
Dodge
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>>167098431
Cheap and anti-fun
also dif. anon.
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>>167098463
so why use the gat if you have to dodge out of it, why not just gunspam
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>>167098115
>being this much of a try hard
You'll be right at home with Bloodtinge.

This is not "your opponent being stupid" is "leading them to be stupid", baiting and punishing is a valid strategy. Besides, having variety is never a bad thing given that 50 Vit will give up at most one extra hit to survive, you have to choose between attack and defense. Levels matter nothing when facing a good or bad player.
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Alright before I go full austimo
Does some have a pic of % arc/flat arc radial gems
I need to know if these even exist
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>>167098567
Shoot after dodging, Gat is quicker than any gun once the bullets start rolling. You don't need to keep shooting with the Gat either, it's mostly for pressure and not as obvious as gun spamming with an Evelyn unless you're holding for more than 5 seconds.
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kek, Hibiki you motherfucker
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>>167098485
>saif
>anti-fun
>when saws exist
wew
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>>167098761
The gat sucks, anon. All you have to do is strafe right or hold up the Locke shield to completely neutralize it.
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>>167098708
Ebrietas, technically. You can get 24.8% Arc with a +15 Flat secondary.
Or, Brainsuckers for whatever primary and plenty of a Flat Arc secondary.
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>>167098708
They are fairly common rate 16-17 9.1% +67.5 with roaming brainsuckers in some layer 1 pthumeru. I didn't bother looking for better ones.
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>>167098761
but you can't parry with it and you're just hoping someone will get antsy, strafing easily makes it a joke
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>>167098885
Those are tempering
I'm farming them now for arc primary with flat arc
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>>167098867
>Ebrietas
>Radial

I don't know if he wants to go THAT autistic.
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>>167098867
>Radial
Ignore me, I'm a silly sausage. Can't get Eb in Isz. But you can get Brainsuckers in Ihyll anyways
>>167098946
Don't think you can get that in Ihyll. Try an offshape.
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>>167098946
Yes, I misread that. Unfortunately I only got triangles, so the only ones I'd know would be off-shapes.
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>>167098854
>>167098890
I use it with the Best Cuter so they get close enough. The problem with the Gat is it's range.
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>>167098854
Nah, shields are pretty bad against the Gat since it'll drain your stamina fairly quick. Strafing is really the only problem but like I said it's mainly for pressure.

>>167098890
Then switch to a secondary gun that can parry. Or get enough Arc for Augur.
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>>167098946
Arcane is technically part of the Ihyll pool, so Brainsuckers actually CAN drop Arcane primaries. It's incredibly rare, though.
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>>167099012
>>167099017
Fuck I don't know what's worse
Farming radial with low chance of arc
Or
Farming boss for oos

Oh well thanks guys
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>>167098805
The Saif does everything the saws do but to a whole new level. And the fuckin cancerous dash attacks
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>>167099119
>someone strafes around you
>nice now I still have to walk forward to get in range but now I'm doing it in a way that limits my options
sasuga
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>>167099120
>pressure.
Yeah really pressuring making me list lazily to the right.
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>>167099136
Awesome thanks anon
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>>167098773
I had a double take when he popped in. Right during the opening cutscene, yeah? Kek, love the guy.
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>>167099292
When you're shooting up close its harder to strafe out of it.
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If I'm doing a SKL build the reiter is better untricked, right? It seems to be doing more damage that way, at least when testing on random mobs.
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>>167099242
Sounds like you haven't dealt with saw spear meta.
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>>167099994
Reiter is always skill except the bullet. You shoot with L1 untricked, R2 tricked.
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>>167099994
Untricked is mostly Thrust and I'm guessing has more range so I suppose so. Tricked is still pretty good and quick, I don't think the dash r1 untricked is Thrust while tricked is.
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>>167100241
>>167100307
Suppose deciding is moveset then. I don't much like losing the ability to charge attack without needing to untrick first.
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>>167099994
Untricked does more damage and has more range, but it's slower. Both are affected by skill, the only part that is not is the gun. However with 27.2% gems even the gun will deal ok damage.
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Skill/tinge or pure tinge for my next build? I just want to shoot some niggas.
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>tfw gehrman is the hardest boss for you
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>>167099994
Tricked R1 is pretty good for stun locking humanoid enemies, especially if you get them into a wall. It's also useful if you're focusing on parrying the enemy (on PvP it will make your intentions obvious though). The issue is that the sidestep attack has a pretty weird tracking, so I'm usually untricked unless I'm aiming for those two situations.
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>>167100748
Only good Skilltinge is 50/50, so if you aren't going that high go Pure.
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I got 37 str and 25 skl right now and I'm thinking about trying out something that isn't the LHB. How much damage would I lose if went with the whirligig?
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>this bitch in the church where Amelia was
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>>167101297
Pump Str to 50, what do you mean how much damage would you lose? Tricked Whirly isn't Blunt, it's serrated, stunlocks good and has a nice L2. It's primarily a Str weapon.
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>tfw going to the research hall for the first time

this place isnt going to be comfy, is it?
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so i made a 25/50 str/arc build but i get often memed on it. how is converted stake driver on an arc build?
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Sorry if off topic, but how many Hoonters are gonna be playing Nioh next week?

I couldn't find a general for it.
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>>167101910
yeah it will
no it wont
>>167101949
>thinking a nioh general will be a thing
>even if it is itll only take afew days for nioh fags to crawl back to bloodborne
:^)
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>>167101949
I
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>>167101931
>how is converted stake driver on an arc build?
Great.
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>>167101931
Fire stake drivers work well with oil urn for the fireworks. And damage should be close to the quality build with two cold abyssals and one fire abyssal. It doesn't lose much without physical since it doesn't have very convenient thrust attacks.
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>>167102093
get out with your gay ass webms
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>>167102327
:'(
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>Making a Parasite twink
>Living Failures are giving me more trouble than Ludwig

What the fuck
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>>167102075
Why do you have to try and spread hate? Can't we just all enjoy a new even faster paced soul's game?

Man I can't wait to kusari Gama shit... Wonder how many more weapon types will be in the final game.

Oh and did you nigga see the bit about armor changing or whatever that lets you wear any armor piece while taking the stats of another? Truly fashion is all that matters now...
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>>167101309
>he got eileen instead of crowsteel
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>>167102384
das more like it m9
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>>167102432
Its like you're speaking another language, literally makes no sense.
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>>167101675
I'm just assuming that I'm currently dealing more with the LHB due to its B skill scaling and my skill would kinda go to waste on the whirligig making my damage suffer until I can get the str higher
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>>167102513
Not a Souls games.

Not even a From game.
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>>167102327
He posts that webm every chance he gets. Don't mind it
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>playing BB on my new PS4 for about a week
>go back for some casual DaS3
>every boss feels like it's made of paper
I know it's because of the whole gun parry->visceral thing but jesus
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>>167102549
This is only my second playthrough, I'm not really familiar with all the NPC's/questlines etc. yet.
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What is the deal with these screaming bighead monsters in the Research hall? are they humans who got transformed and mutated?
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>>167102989
You're in for a fuckin giggle with him in NG+, trust me
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What BL should I go into the DLC at?
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>tfw I realized Gehrman wasn't actually the first hunter
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>>167103116
Those guys ARE the research. They were trying to make Celestial Emissaries, and the Living Failures are the first step towards perfecting them. But yeah, they used to be people, mutated and transformed through blood.
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>>167103116
Remember the ayys in Upper Cathedral? These are the prototypes.
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>>167103137
Now I'm scared.
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>>167103195
lvl 60, +7 weapon should be fine, or just finish the normal story since it's easier than the dlc.
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>>167103231
But he is
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>>167103359
You should be
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>>167103231
He quite literally is the first hunter
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>>167103414
>>167104440
Was he the groundskeeper at Byrgenwerth or something? Or just some mercenary Laurence hired?
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How 2 arc claws? Can I find Lost Beast Claws or do I need super specific gems? Can I do fire or blot claws for Darkbeast Mode?
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>>167106512
>How 2 arc claws?

You don't.
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>>167106512
You can't, since beasthood only boosts physical.
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>>167106436
Chances are everyone involved was part of the college. Maria was distant nobility on a scholarship or some shit, more than likely related to the faglord who fucked off with the forbidden blood to Cainhurst, Gehrman was also probably a scholar or student there, maybe he was a mercenary, the place would need some muscle on their excursions into the Labyrinths. But he was there at the beginning. Probably taught engineering.
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>>167106668
>>167106719
So no elemental claws for me? fug
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>>167106887
You can, but they're shit because any damage other than physical will not be affected by beasthood.
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Playing for the first time, about to face off against pic related with a +3 Axe.

Any pro-tips?
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>>167107715
Don't read guides, play blind. Be aggressive.
Leave /bbg/ till you finish your first playthrough.
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>>167107715
there are a couple of optional areas to hit up if you end up getting smacked around too much so go look around if you can't kill the dog
also gtfo
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>>167107715
Keep your distance. Let her approach you by dodging away from one of her attacks.

Like most enemies in BB, she has trouble turning. Just watch her hands for when she does moves that can slash behind her.

Strike her hands and her face and she will get staggered.

Dodge her heaviest attacks (prayer dunk, jump attack) to the sides at the last possible second.

That's all the advice I'll give
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>>167106512
Just the regular claws since 2 radials and a triangle is ideal for arc damage, git yourself some cold abyssals on that shit.

>>167106719
Who cares, building up beasthood in PvP and even PvE is pretty much impossible outside of Cainhurst.

I see people bring this shit up all the time, but really, it doesn't matter at all.
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>>167108807
>building up beasthood in PvP and even PvE is pretty much impossible outside of Cainhurst.
Boy...
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>tfw I remember spending a day beating kos solo.
>I don't have that kind of patience now because I just want to get my parasite.

if anyone would like to help the password is bbg2
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>>167108905
Sure, anon. Where are you ringing?
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>>167109068
Near the entrance
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>>167108807
beasthood is easy as fuck to build up against bosses and it's not too hard to use on regular enemies though it's just overkill
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>>167109096
Got it, m8
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>>167108858
its pretty hard to build the meter up on regular enemies because they all just die too fast. He's right in that you can build it up really high in Cainhurst on all the ghost ladies.

not too hard to build it up on bosses though
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How much item discovery do you need to make farming the hamlet winter lanterns practical? 25 minutes and I haven't seen a single blood gem at 170 discovery
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>>167109427
200 was fine for me, probably 1 out of 2 gave a gem.
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>>167109527
Am I doing something wrong then? Is there some prerequisite to them dropping gems? They're only dropping bullets
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is it possible to convert the Kos parasite and make it be as effective a weapon as the default arcane version?
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>>167109676
gain skill
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>>167109175
Thanks. Man, I really probably should have waited but fuck I wanted the parasite so badly.
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>>167109736
no
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>>167109913
Cheers, m8, there's always NG+. Thanks for having me.
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the Church Pick is a strange weapon to me. A lot of moves that dont go horizontally. What kind of situations is it best suited for? Would it work for STR?
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>>167110804
is great for bosses with weak heads. if you slap a heavy abyssal on it it is decent with str as well
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>>167110153
No problem . It'll be a while til ng because I'm farming the chalices.
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Give me your best female fashion combo, how is the fashion on bb?
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>>167102432
ludwig is only one enemy and always does the same shit, you can be easily blindsided on failures especially as a twink without burst damage
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Can I get some help on Pthumerian Descendant in Ihyll chalice

pass: bbg
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>>167112202
Are you still ringing?
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>>167112576
Yep still ringing
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>>167112685
SRRCing
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>go to /dsg/
>PCucks who can't enjoy all fromsoft games
the memes were right
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>>167113138
It's this one btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8UqJKY_HVU&t=286s
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>>167112685
Is your network set to worldwide? If so, (or not) try ringing again
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>>167113138
I really gotta wonder why I never hear about /dsg/ bitching about Demon's Souls. Most off their issue with Bloodborne seems to be about exclusivity, but Demon's Souls was exclusive too and it's touted as one of the best games in the series. What's the deal?
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>>167112746
Are you still ringing? I'm not picking up anything.
>>167113294
Yeah, it is. :/
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>>167113379
A ps3 is 60 dollars and a ps4 is 200, if I had to guess at the reason
also >implying they've played des
some of them actually unironically believe shit like THIS
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>>167113504
Let me just make the chalice then. It is the regular ihyll, correct?
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>>167113604
Yeah, but I don't need credit for the boss kill in my own?
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>>167113671
Sorry but I don't know what you are asking. Anywho, I'm restarting my PS4 so give me a second
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>>167113138
>tfw both a PC and PS4
feels good
I'd like to pick up a PS3 for DeS one day as well, for now I'm fine though.
I don't see why people try to start console war bullshit anyway, we're all fans of the same/similar games, shitslinging doesn't do anything but make the 'community' seem worse as a whole, and watching a thread devolve into nothing because someone said "PCuck" or "Sonygger" is just annoying.
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>>167114112
Calm down there, Bernie
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>>167114275
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>>167114112
>I don't see why people try to start console war bullshit anyway
It's simply mad PCucks who can't see why it was sony who allowed BB to be as great as it is.
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Any suggestions for beating Logarius on a BLT build? I'm level 63 with 25/14/20/15/33/6 and a +3 Saw Cleaver. Should I pump Str a little more (25 or so) since I plan on using the Bloodletter eventually anyway?

I do very little damage to him per hit and he keeps spamming the sword plant/rain attack in his second phase.
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>>167113671
I have not gotten anything. I think you should either solo it or wait for someone else. Sorry m8
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>>167114773
Parry him as much as possible and visceral. For the second phase, when he starts to charge up the aoe leading to it, backstab him and you can parry him easy.
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>>167114773
Niggah you should have your cleaver at +7 by now. Upgrade the cleaver, use bolt paper and shoot the sword when he plants it down.
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>>167114773
Don't you have the materials for at least a +5 weapon yet? There is even a chunk in the castle.
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>>167103252
>>167103308
I don't see how they are failures when they seem to be much more powerful and dangerous than the regular blue "celestials"
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>>167114987
>>167115107
I was saving my materials to upgrade another weapon, but I might as well upgrade the cleaver for now since I won't have Bowblade or Bloodletter for a while. I had no idea that I could shoot the sword, I thought I had to whack it. I'm a dumbass.
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>>167115419
No point in holding upgrades up to +6, you can literally already farm them in hypogean gaol.

Only chunks are rare until you get to depth 4/5 chalices.
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>>167115575
Yeah, I have an overabundance of twin and regular shards. I guess I was paranoid because I started running out of materials on my last character because I was leveling so many weapons.
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>>167115123
To me, they're one way communicators - they let the cosmos in, but can't let you out to the cosmos. Actual Celestial Emissaries seem to be proper mediums between humanity and Great Ones.
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Anyone wanna help me with orphan? I feel like he's going to be a pain for my arcane build. pass is bbg. Ringing at fog gate.
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>>167107715
Spin-to-win her knees and when she falls down stick your dick in her nostrils
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Anyone wanna join me in a cursed lower loran dungeon? I haven't been having trouble with it so far but I'm in the mood for some co-op spelunking. It's root chalice was specifically an 'Ailing Lower Loran' chalice and its fetid, idk if that matters. I'm still new to chalice dungeons and co-op in general. Oh and I'm on NG+ idk if that matters either.
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>>167116571
Why is /bbg/ suddenly so full of conquered?
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>>167116571
Sure, omw
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>>167116661
Pass is just bbg btw, I'm on layer two
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>>167116571
Not picking you up, anon
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>>167116982
I'm level 85 btw. ringing again
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>>167117042
Still nothing. Just to make sure, pass is bbg and you're ringing at the fog, right?
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>>167117196
That's right. Just triggered the boss and ringing again.
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Does anyone want to help me through defiled chalice? Pass is bbg.
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>>167117389
Reset my console and I'm ringing again. You're set to worldwide?
There's a specter running about wearing a Charred Hunter's garb, and another a Harrowed Garb. Any of these you, m8?
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>>167117628
Nah, I'm wearing beast hide garb.
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>>167117698
Haven't seen any such specters, sorry m8. It's a wonky day for the server. I'll keep ringing my bell there, just in case we manage to connect, but hopefully somebody else will come along and help you.
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>>167117850
Thanks for trying. But I guess I'm just going to have to solo it. I need that parasite pronto.
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>>167117941
Godspeed, anon.
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>>167117941

Different anon here
I'm willing to give ringing a go
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I forgot how good the Gatling gun was against the defiled keeper
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>>167118928
Gatling gun is one of the most underrated weapons
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I may be drunk, but just let me rant for a bit. I love this fucking game, and I cant keep away from it. I got it in September of last year, got to Gascoigne and then put the game away for a couple months when I couldnt overcome him due to anxiety. Finally I got the motivation to pick it up again, and a bro from here helped me beat him. Now I smoke him without a problem. I love the atmosphere of this game, and I love how I can destroy shit a variety of different ways. Xenoblade Chronicles was my favorite game before I got a PS4, but this fucking game had blown it out. Thank you guys, out of the bottom of my heart, for being so helpful and so welcoming. Sorry for the blog. Cheers
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>>167120169
We love you, too, anon
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Fighting Orphan as an arc twink is suffering. I just want my Parasite to start my punch run, trying to fight Orphan with a +7 Saw Cleaver is awful.
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Is it still relevant in a STR build?
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>>167120169
Love you anon
>Xenoblade Chronicles was my favorite game before I got a PS4
Love your tastes anon
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So what is paleblood?
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>>167120916
It will probably do mediocre damage with the heavy abyssals, not to mention the fact that without the temperings you don't get the decent boost to the gun.
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>spend all day trying to get the Church Pick
>immediately get it to +7
>its apparently shit for STR builds

Why do I do this to myself
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>>167121683
The Moon Presence.
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>>167121810
Heavy Abyssals, dude
Also, why did you not do some research before making the build and choosing a weapon?
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>>167121861

Im a moron. At least I still have the Beast Cutter as my main weapon. I just wanted another fun backup weapon. I have serious ADHD when it comes to weapons in this fucking game.
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Where did the corrupted blood of Cainhurst come from?
Does it even do anything special?
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>first time playing
>send a Yharnam little girl to Iosefka's clinic
>read Iosefka's lore
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>167121683
The sky, the blood, the moon presence, a concept, a totality, Miyazaki's semen present in all copies of Bloodborne
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>that Amelia smut thread currently on /v/

I cant look away
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>>167122254
>spoiling the lore for yourself like that instead of finding out what Iosefka actually does yourself
Come on, man. You can access the clinic later on in the game, and discover the ayymissary NPCs within.
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>>167122121
Most likely it's Pthumerian in origin, since Cainhurst contains creatures from the Labyrinths, the Gargoyles and Bloodlickers. They, Pthumerians and Cainhurst, also the only ones who have fire magic.

Basically, we wuz Pthumerians n sheeit
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>>167122121
>Where did the corrupted blood of Cainhurst come from?
Queen Yharnam
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Vicar Amelia is for _______
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>>167123059

What in kos' name
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>>167122880
>>167123059
>>167123320
Get this cancer out of my thread.
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Man, git gud maymays aside, this game is fucking kicking my ass.

Also to the niggas that recommended I buy the DLC the other day--thanks.
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Does anyone wanna help me with the Living Failures?
Password is bbg
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>>167123654
I'm ringing next to the Research Hall Lamp
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>>167123932
Thanks dude, they were really kicking my ass.
Now its time for Maria to kick my ass.
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>Arianna's page on fextra literally has the word "whore" in her quote censored
you can't make this shit up
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LA LA LA
LAAA
LA
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>>167124690
Worst enemy in the goddamn game.
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>>167124772
Scariest, but worst.

I feel honest, genuine panic when I see one, or red spiders or a Madman. Nailed the enemy design but, even though they're all fucking awful.
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>>167124772
It's even worse as an invader, standing next to this thing while it walks passively by you, collapsing eyes blinking stupidly in your direction. All those pale tendrils twisting like those of Lesser Amygdalas, dozens of little mouths under that rotted mass of eyes, and knowing that you, as an adversary in this world, can do nothing about it being there
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>>167124690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUz051qB54s

There's a part half way through that song that these guys remind me of
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>>167124312
Learn to parry, and Maria is literally the easiest boss in the game... its almost sad to be honest. But I beat her in about 8 viscerals.
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Tried to shoot Logarius's sword after he planted it in phase 2. Shit didn't work. He's still stomping my shit. Having all of your main damage dealing weapons locked in the late game sucks.
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>>167126270
I've been managing to get her with a few parry's. Still taking a bit to master though.
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>>167126270
I like to attack her 3 or 4 times in a row then itnerrupt an attack and visceral her, back off to stam regen and do it over again
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Why can't I put a third gem on my Saw Spear +5? Does it have to be at a certain level?
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Is there anything you can do about Wet Nurse's "black fog and teleporting duplicate" attack? I've just been running around in circles waiting it out each time but that very obviously doesn't seem like the intended method.
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>>167126945
+6.

>>167126969
You can interrupt it while she prepares it. Her duplicate dies in one hit.
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>>167126734
There's a slight delay when he places it down after which you can successfully shoot it, use a pistol and be sure it's in range too.
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>>167120916
Skill only
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>>167127056

Thanks.
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>>167127248
I got him. After he stopped spamming it it became a lot easier to deal with him. Hell of a rush.
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what would usually be better (i know thats vague) in pvp, 25/50 str/arc or 50/25 str/skl
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>>167127056
Is it a case like DaS3 Pontiff where it's gone for good, or will it keep re-appearing for the duration?
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>>167127581
It's gone until the end I think. She can resummon it if she casts her fog again though. You should be able to beat her before she uses it twice though.
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>first build is STR
>second is SKL
>this fucking visceral damage
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>>167128060
Feels good, doesn't it?
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>>167128405
It sure fucking does.
I'm still trash at BB gun-parrying, but when I do get them, or I get one just from hitting the boss, it's great.
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Remember the good old times.
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>>167124772
>one slow attack
wow incredibly bad
maybe if you're out of sedatives wearing beat hide with 99 insight and superbly shit at parrying
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Anyone have that image guide of chalices?
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>>167131894
Check the OP
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>>167130532
someone post the one shopped image of vaati on one of the serpent statues from 3 with those six question marks around it. it fits so well.
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>>167130532
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>>167132259
Honestly little has changed, new people are experiencing all this cosmic nonsense for the first time and it's nice being here for it.
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>>167130532
>/bbg/ once half-joked about DaS3 being a stealth sequel to BB
>the quickstepping
>defiled beast being a cleric beast
>yuria having heavy cainhurst imagery
>that week-long span of bloodborne+dark souls 3/PS4 From general
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>>167132259
>didn't play bb at launch
>missed the memes
>left to pick up the scraps like a dog
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>>167133329
It's still practically the same minus the DLC hype
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Is there any special damage ramp-up effect for the Rosmarinus?
I've heard about it but I've never experienced it.
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Alright /bbg/, what's the one weapon ypu hardly use?
For me, its the Spear Gun and whatever the Vileblood gun sword is called.
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>>167133550
Piercing Rifle and Ludwig's Rifle, they have too much recoil.
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>>167133550
I've never even seen Kos Parasite's moveset because I never get the required ARC
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>>167133550
Whatever my current build can't use properly even with gems.

I don't like using the chikage much though, it's too tiresome even if it has good damage. Maybe if I had 50 skill and 50 blood I'd enjoy it better.
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>Friends are all PCfats
>None of them have even played DeS, let alone BB
>Only people to discuss it with are a bunch of faceless strangers and a faggot
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>>167133549
BMA helps the first few ticks, increases range and damage.
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>>167133550
Out of all my time, I don't think I've ever actually used Ludwig's Holy Blade in combat of any kind. Second least used goes to Milkweed Parasite.

Turn it around, most used weapon? Not necessarily your favorite, though it's likely to be the same, but the one you've used the most of any. Mine is I think a tossup between the Wheel and the Stake Driver, with probably either the Moonlight Sword or the Saw Spear in close second.
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>>167134259
Whirligig and Saw Cleaver, with the Moonlight Sword and Stake Driver coming in second as well.
I have yet to get the Rakuyo, but I know I'll main it once I get it.
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>>167134040
iktf, b

Except the part about having friends
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I like to assume Ludwig or Maria were the ones that eventually took Lawrence out. They're both skillful enough to cut off a beasts head in one swing.
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>>167134681
Brador did it probably
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>>167134762
I thought that as well, but it all really depends on what order they all entered the Nightmare. Brador could have already been there by the time Lawrence was killed.
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>>167134915
The same could be said about Ludwig and Maria though
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>>167124323
>fextra
>ever
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>>167134681
Doesn't the hunter do it? What are you talking about?
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>>167135109

Maria started the nightmare.
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anyone wanna co op with me thru hamlet? pass is bbg at the first lamp.
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We dead general now
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>just 3 Bastards of Loran for the Curse rite cost 21 insight alone
>after just 4 FRCs I'm almost out of insight and crushed a third of my stockpiles of madman's knowledge
I guess it's not really viable to farm the gems without PS+. What a shame. FromSoft didn't strike me like a company that would employ p2w in their games, but they actually did it.
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>>167138014
Pro tip: after looting a Sarcophagus in a dungeon, after dying or hunters marking go back to it. There will be a Madmans knowledge or Great Ones wisdom.

Also wear Vileblood rune so NPC Huntets drop blood dregs, for more free insight.
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>>167138256
Just once or after every reset? Because 2 insight per sarcophagus isn't much, considering there's usually only one or two of those per layer. Still isn't nearly enough to make up for the cost of the ritual materials.
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>>167138256
>Also wear Vileblood rune so NPC Huntets drop blood dregs, for more free insight.
This doesn't work for shit like bone ash hunters, right?
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>>167138256
I don't think that applies to NPC hunters in CD's, only outside of them.
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>get memed into making an arcane build
>its shit
>might be slightly better with specific gems
>but first, I have to slodge through chalice dungeons with my shit build
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>>167139358
Early CD fire gems and Lighthouse Bolts are enough for them. Tools are very effective.
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>>167139358
Nigga, you're a meme. Arcane is the most powerful build. Sure, it starts slower than the physical ones, but every build has to go through the gem farm, not just arc.
If you want a meme build - try bloodtinge.
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>finished up first ever playthrough as STR primarily then dumped into ARC to use based holy moonlight sword
>thinking of trying a second playthrough using skill and bloodtinge
>remember how fucking long it took crawling through the story dungeons for gems
>not feeling so hot anymore

fucking why
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>>167139585
>skill and bloodtinge
Bloodtinge doesn't synergize with anything else. Chikage, Bloodletter and Bowblade all only benefit from Blt in one mode and Skl or Str in the other.
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>>167138256
>Pro tip: after looting a Sarcophagus in a dungeon, after dying or hunters marking go back to it. There will be a Madmans knowledge or Great Ones wisdom.
This didn't work for me. Am I stupei?
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>>167139585
You could finish them under a day if you know what you're doing. Skill also has it easy when it comes to farming gems, and since Blt is affected by Physical gems you don't really have to go anywhere else past standard 27.2% Phys gems. 50/50 Bowblade is pretty fun too.
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>>167139801
It works if you what you picked up wasn't a Madman's Knowledge already. Quitting and reloading should spawn one once too I think.
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>parry an enemy
>they fall on a chest and it breaks
I didn't realize that was a thing.
>later
>find a chest in a chalice dungeon
>it's facing the fucking wall and can't be opened
>break it and grab the treasure
The more you know.
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>>167096842
Go up with a pistol and shoot him over and over until he submits to your superior marksmanshp
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>>167139585
just do a straight skill run. rush BoM it'll be great i promise.
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>you can close the gates that people have opened during invasions
Holy fuck I'm the biggest cunt in Cathedral Ward.
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What the fuck is this room in a root dungeon that is fucking eating my fps jesus christ it's like the 15fps memes are real.
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>>167140842
Is it full of Witches and other shit? Those things kill fps.
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>>167140947
No, there was only one bellbitch and a bunch of incense pots. Hold on, let me finish this floor.
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>exploring an FRC
>it has one of those huge caves with poison swamp
>climb up a ladder to the scaffolding
>it's actually a couple of meters away from it
>fall down as soon as I reach the top
Did they even playtest this shit? Good thing there was an alternate route to the second floor, otherwise I could have been stuck there. Bravo A-team.
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don't die faggots
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>>167142461
It's the quiet hours. Shitposting will resume a bit later.
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>Hope the Nioh general can coexist with the Souls/BB thread
>Know deep down its going to be a haven of shitposting from retarded idiots on both sides of the From train

I hope I'm wrong, we can enjoy all the games.
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>>167142842
I sincerely hope that the quality of Nioh threads on /v/ will not correlate with the Nioh general. After all, BB threads on /v/ are just NEVER EVER and "this game is easy and overrated" shitposting over and over, and yet we have the comfiest general.
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>>167142842
>>167143096
Nioh shills, please contain your posts to the corresponding general.
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>>167140842
>>167140947
>>167141040
Literally what
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>>167143292
Wow... so this is the power... of the PS4...
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>>167143383
Unironically what is this
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>>167100748
As long as you realize the limitations of Bloodtinge scaling on weapons, then you should do whatever you want.

Really just depends on what weapons you enjoy using.
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>>167144228
The game probably keeps rendering too many things it shouldn't even when they're obscured or entirely off-screen.
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Could someone explain how the buff on the Tony and Boom Hammer works? Is it like the Wheel where the physical scaling goes down or it just adds bolt/fire damage that scales with arc on top of the phys damage?
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>>167144417
For Toni:
>When Transformed, Tonitrus gets +0.40 Arcane Scaling, 70% bonus bolt damage, and +40 flat Bolt damage. The Arcane Scaling bonus does not appear in the stat screen, while the 70% bonus bolt damage and +40 flat bolt damage do. "Fool's" effect seen in stat screen has no effect on actual damage.

As for Boomhammer, it just says it deals fire only when tricked. So I'm guessing tricking just adds the fire you see on the screen on top of the Blunt damage without anything special. Still hits pretty hard with Nourishings.
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>>167144312
Well it's definitely strange.
Why does webm for retards make shit 100kb bigger than 3mb when you set the limit to 3. Makes me want to scream.
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>nightmare of mensis hunter fucking clapped when he killed me
what the FUCK from
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Rakuyo giants, I can manage with just one, two is just a clusterfuck. Pass is bbg. Waiting at lamp.
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>>167147423
Which lamp?
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>>167147423
still need help?
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>>167147664
The first one. >>167147670
Absolutely. I'm on tilt.
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>>167147718
ringin
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>>167127248
You can lock on to it too, which makes it a lot easier as well.

>>167131831
>wasting sedatives against them

>>167139469
It's the weakest. It's way too reliant of bullets and chalice gems. Str is best for PvE and Skl is best for PvP.

>>167139765
It synergizes well with Str because of the BL, and a lot of the fun weaponry requiring high str.

>>167147423
There being two makes it easier. Bully the first one then hit him with a shaman bone blade when he call for help, and the will do most of the work for you.
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reminder not to reply to tripfags
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>>167144910
Does that mean odd bolt gems are better than regular ones for tonitrus, because it gets a whopping 70% bolt bonus for free?
Or should I just stick some nourishing gems in it?
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how do I git gud against this bully :(
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>>167147718
Are you still ringing? I've here for a while.
Hibiki already killed the sharks, the rest if the hamlet and Orphan didn't he?
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>>167147957
Hit him until he goes into autistic rage. Backstab him to death while he tries to buff.
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>>167147957
Viscerals.
Charged R2 to his back when he yells to buff and he's done for.
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so, what should i use on my 50/25 str/skl build for frc's?
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>>167148016
A str-leaning quality weapon.
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>>167147745
Thanks for the help
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>>167148040
such as?
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>>167147892
>>167116713
>shitter dot png

Still mad about being bad? Even if I am the best, I can do much for you when you keep running head long into death and refuse to learn from your mistakes.

>>167147957
>parry the punch with the huge wind up
>visceral
>get close as they are getting up, which baits out a kick, getting them away from a wall
>Land a charged attack to their back as they activate kaioken
>visceral

They should be dead after that. It works basically 100% of the time.
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tonight gehrman joins the kos, or some say kosm...
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>>167148016
Everything except Chikage, Kos Parasite and Fist of Gratia.
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>>167148061
>killing based simon
drunk on blood it seems
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do you feel like bloodborne would deserve a sequel or another dlc and if so what would you want in it?
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>>167148252
Sequel, no. DLC, yes. I would be happy just to get an arena with a gemless option.
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>>167147949
The % boost is applied before Flat Bolt gems, so you want Nourishing gems that stack with that bolt boost multiplicitivly.

Or Bolt % gems if you have base STR.
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>>167148252
Not really. With DLC Bloodborne would probably overstayed its welcome, and From is not capable of making a proper sequel, unfortunately.
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>>167148252
we. need. more. powderkegs.
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>>167148252
maybe a dlc related to the vileblood hunters and the executioners, i feel like there wouldve been some more stuff there to explore potentially
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Depth doesn't affect gem drops right?
Also for a quality build with church pick, regular physical gems or thrust up? It only has a few non thrust attacks.
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>>167148252
Probably not. As much as I want some elaboration on certain details of the world, Bloodborne's general story is rather fleshed-out and finished.

But I would absolutely want a new game with a new setting with Bloodborne's dodge mechanics, rally and interesting weapons. I guess if Miyazaki tries really hard a story in Bloodborne's world but in a completely different place far away from Yharnam would work. So the same time period and cosmology, with Great Ones and stuff, but different history, people and organizations.
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>what all you vilecucks are trying to collect for your queen
>tfw your carrying bloodcum around in your pockets all day
absolutely disgusting you cucks
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>>167148758
Tricked mode is all Thrust so if you don't mind sticking to Tricked then thrust gems would be better. Phys for the whole moveset.
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>>167148785
Rally should be removed entirely.
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>>167148758
I quite liked this meme, I'd score it at 7/10. It had some good substance to it but I feel like there's a lack of emotion in the writing.
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>>167148252
No sequels unless Miyazaki really wants to make one.
For DLC:
Fix the hitboxes of Saw Cleaver and Spear, Saif and Rakuyo.
Make Fist of Gratia not suck.
Add option to reorganize stats.
More bloodtinge weapons.
Guidance 3.
Item that can increase blood gem ratings and effects.
New weapon is pic related.
Option to HOLD HANDS WITH THE DOLL
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>>167148785
cyberpunk bloodborne-style game when?
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>>167148956
but anon... there is guidance 3
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>>167148758
> Depth doesn't affect gem drops right?

Uh, yeah it does.

Depth 5 is the best gems, by far. I'm pretty sure depth also increases droprate, since getting a Depth 3 Scorpion to drop a Dirty gem is borderline impossible, but in Depth 5 FRC dungeons they drop like candy.
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>>167148210
Hey now, I just watched him die and paid my respects :c
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>>167149026
>falling for the bait
or you're samefagging for (you)'s
i hope it's the first one as it's less sad
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>>167149026
>>167148884
Sorry, what I meant was the depth inside dungeons, layers.
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>>167148956
>Item that can increase blood gem ratings and effects.
On second thought, just make it so you can share storage with your other characters.
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>>167149117
if you encounter a pthumerian descendant boss as a boss in layer 1or layer 2 of a dungeon, he cannot drop an abyssal. If you encounter him as a boss in layer 3 or layer 4, he can
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>>167149117
i dont think so my friendo, if you look on the list for top tier farmable gems alot of them are in layer 1
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>>167149301
oh then this >>167149252 can onto this >>167149301 then if its regarding abyssals abyssals i guess
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>>167149301
That's because you don't need to clear three whole layers to access the boss every time. The deeper layer bosses have higher chance of dropping abyssals.
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>>167149360
see >>167149341 my f
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>>167149301
>if you look on the list for top tier farmable gems alot of them are in layer 1
it's always just Merciless Watchers who people farm on layer 1, because their gems don't have a secondary effect, so their primary effect is so much stronger. If you could find them as a boss on layer 3, an abyssal gem from watchers would probably be like +30% physical damage (or more)
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>>167149392
English motherfucker.
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friend*
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>>167149192
But anon people will bully noobs with gems they didn't earn :(((
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>>167149437
dont be racist
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>>167148252
I wouldn't want a sequel if sony or from had ever even considered letting bamco near it. Another DLC definitely should have been made but we got stuck with the disgusting amalgamation of BB DLC/sequel that was tied to the roots of different games in the form of DaS3.
As for the content, well that's where I draw a blank. I believe people don't know what they want until they have it. When DaS first came out and I bought it on a whim after seeing some streams on /v/, I thought it was the shit. Best game in years. I had no idea that I wanted to play something like that, and something that frustrating (back then). Fast forward a couple of years, and from releases a sort of spinoff that puts a new twist on a lot of things, some tweaks and changes, and bam - game of the generation. Again, I didn't know I wanted dark souls but faster, more brutal, and focused on offense rather than defense. So my point is, it's up to from and miyazaki to decide on what their future games/sequel to BB contain. I trust them to do a good job if they're not shackled to bamco.
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>>167149530
I want a DLC where we visit the Pthumerian civilization as it is starting it's fall. I am a bit tired of exploring ruins after the fact.
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replace kkvk8gsj with bigkr99w please

kkvk is so fucking hard. There are witches and hunters everywhere and there is a roaming HMPH guarding the lever on layer 3
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>>167149684
And I am a bit tired of clicking back on my tab and seeing that a retarded faggot has once again replied to my post, under the impression that he is somehow above everyone else on the website who doesn't also wear a gigantic glowing neon sign advertising their presence. I don't give a good goddamn what you want, and - news flash - nobody else here does either.

Sorry everyone, that's the one and only time I'll reply to he who must not be named. I should have filtered him ages ago. It's funny sometimes to see his demented honking be roundly mocked, but it's not worth the constant annoyance.
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>>167149816
You think I am unique enough to follow me from thread to thread and shit post at me with no on topic substance to your posts, so that must make me pretty special in your eyes.
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>>>167149816
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>>167149816
he's like poor person begging a rich person for money when he replies to people.
pitiful really
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>>167149486
Between your characters, no sharing for other players.
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>>167149816
people even stopped rpelying to him in /dsg/ its fucking lols
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>>167149989
they still didn't earn the gem if they farmed it with a level 300 character and then gave it to a level 30 one. For the level 30 character to have such a powerful gem, they should have to farm it themselves
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>>167149252
Thanks much.
>eventually these helpful posts will be gone and newshits will be left to their own devices
>eventually /bbg/ will die
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>>167149989
I was joking about the original bottomless box glitch in DS1 where baddies would give their level 10 character a +5 Lightning katana they got on their level 200.

I'd be okay with inter-character sharing being unlocked upon hitting level 100 but then I remember we cap it at 98 to dodge redditards so I dunno.
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>>167150081
>will die
Why are you using future tense?
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>>167150072
Downscale the gem or make it work like online coop and you can't see the gem outside the level range.
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Anyone else autistically backup their save every time they're done playing?
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>>167150196
Even better, you can only unlock shared storage if you have the Yharnam stone.
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>>167150072
How the fuck didn't they earn it if they've sacrificed many hours of their real life to get them? Why the fuck should the same person go through the same process just because he made another character?
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>>167150219
Yes, I got really worried after the 700 hour mark.
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>>167150265
Because it would have been ten times harder to farm the gem as a level 30 character vs a level 300 one. They really don't need gems that good at level 30 anyway.

And they did earn the gem, they just didn't earn it for all their characters
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>>167150067
>DesecratedFlame
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>>167150265
The idea is that it's a different process to farm top tier gems on a level 43 than on a level 250.
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>>167150396
Then they should've done something similar to what >>167150196 suggests. Make gems scale with character level. Or outright put level requirements on them, depending on the gem quality.
Just don't make the player go through the same RNG roulette again.
>>167150447
It's hardly any different.
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>>167150396
I agree, there needs to be some kind of lock to prevent this and I'm glad you can't trade items with other players like in Dark Souls 3. But I think farming for gems is shit and getting a 27% bolt on your BLT character is retarded.
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DS3 was better
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>>167150426
>tfw he hasconfirmed profiles on hentai and furfag websites
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>>167150553
I like the level requirement idea. I think it should be possible to trade gems with characters who've unlocked FRC/ gotten the Yharnam Stone and are within 10-20 levels of each other.
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>>167150680
Now, now. Don't jump to conclusions. It might be a falseflagger trying to smear his g-good name...
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>>167150714
>who've unlocked FRC/ gotten the Yharnam Stone
That shit is also as annoying and meaningless. Once you've unlocked FRCs on one char, you should be able to do those on the others.
And remove the ritual materials cost past the very first FRC, while we're at it. It's ridiculous that you have to pay for the additional rites than make the dungeons harder.
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>>167150857
xaxaxaxa
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>>167150868
Now you just don't want to play the game
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>>167150857
>not having the hentai one
oh my poor dear boy
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>>167150934
I want to play the game i.e. do FRCs, I don't want to farm for insight to buy the ritual mats.
The game basically requires you to pay for PS+ if you wanna do FRCs.
I guess you can just farm regular root dungeons until RNG feels like giving you the required ritual materials in the chests. But that's just a chore.
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>>167150219
Nope, just before something that could get screwed up, such as trying to keep the crow alive.
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>>167150857
>>167151024
https://www.hentai-foundry.com/user/DesecratedFlame/profile
>last visit january 16 2017
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>>167150868
Nah, that's like saying any new character can go straight to FRC the moment they step into the dream. Getting to FRC is way quicker than grinding out most gems for several weapons. Even basic Depth 5 mob gems will be enough to tear through the whole game. Not having to buy materials to make new CD's I'll agree with.
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>>167151181
To be fair most of the early chalices are just sort of busy work. They aren't challenging, and don't add anything to the game. Personally, I wish the Defiled chalice was the first chalice, and that there were no costs to making them. That would get rid of most of the problems with them.

>>167151121
Sorry, commissions are closed and this isn't the right place to ask anyway.

=3
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Need an OG nigga to help me dunk Ludwig so I can rush for my Church Pick, PW is memes outside the ludwig gate
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>>167151181
>Nah, that's like saying any new character can go straight to FRC the moment they step into the dream
Exactly. There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to do just that after you've played through the game once already.
Imagine if you HAD TO play through the entire single player campaign in, say, CoD, every time, when you change your loadout.
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reminder not to reply to tripfags
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blog rant alert
>have normiebook only for school and chatting with friends
>decide to actually like pages and get into groups thay have similar tastes
>bloodborne group
>everyone is around level 200 and patting themselves on the back for defeating dlc bosses with summons
>"is 50/40/40/40/30/50 a good arcane build? xDd" 50likes and hearts
>"who else watches Vaati? his videos are amazing?!" 100likes and hearts
>actually get triggered by a faggot that said how he can't understand why people say Orphan of Kos is difficult when he defeated him in NG level 110 with a summon
>say hey good job but you may want to try him solo as you can really appreciate his moveset and the way he can apply pressure summoning js basically cheating and a too much of an easy mode
>people get triggered hard and call be a tryhard faggot and claim summoning is a core mechanic of the game and should be used when possible
This is too much I really didn't expect THIS level of normiehood.
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>>167151297
>CoD

>There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to do just that after you've played through the game once already.
But you can get into chalices as soon as you get in the Dream, in NG+ that is.
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>>167151335
>tfw normies suggest stopping between 25 and 50 on str and skl
xaxaxaxaxa
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>>167151390
Your argument would be valid if the game had respec feature. At the fucking least once per NG cycle.
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will a fire converted whirligig saw on a 50 arc build with autism gems do more damage against, say, abhorrent beast than on a 50/25 str/skl build with bbp and firepaper?
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>>167151462
with the right autism gems for the str/skl build aswell
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>>167151462
It'd do similar damage for the most part but once the beasthood meter fills up high, 50/25 will beat it. You don't really need autism gems for a fire Whirly.
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>>167151335
Honestly, this place isn't much different anymore. People here are constantly begging for help then patting themselves on the back for getting carried through the fight (e.g. bully Maria meme). Then you have "conquered," such as >>167151419, who just parrot shit they have heard without understanding it.

So yeah, not much difference anymore. It's sad really.

>>167151306
>talk shit
>get BTFO
>'MEMBER DON'T REPLY TO THEM! BAWWW!!!!!!!!!!!

KEK

>>167151424
I prefer not having a respec feature. It makes your choices matter, adds replay value, and stops you from cheesing through the game on an easy build for hard to obtain gear.
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>>167151557
im still really not sure what build to go for for the best damage and funs ;_:
25/50 str/arc or 50/25 str/skl
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>>167151424
The lack of respec is one of the big problems with Bloodborne but remember that we are the ones gimping ourselves by staying at low levels to have build variety and this is the only thing preventing us from going BL 250.
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>>167151627
25/50 is funner imo cuz of Tools. You also don't need to risk taking more damage from BB Pellets to do great damage with your weapons. Most enemies have lower fire/bolt/arcane defense than Phys.
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>>167151627
50/25 quality is most damage and fun. 25 str would be a waste on a fire whirly, as it would not scale from the Str at all.

>>167151658
respecs hurt build variety too
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>>167151658
>we
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>>167151627
Do both
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>>167151701
ight 25/50 it is then, i guess i can use wheel, tonitrus and hmls on it pretty well too
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>>167151706
I wasn't talking about you.
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>>167151756
Yeah that's the point of getting 25 Str for Arc hybrids. That extra Str won't do anything for converted weapons but it will help Wheel, HMS, Toni and Boomhammer. Good luck m8
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>>167151718
>do both
i aint got time for that nigga
actually i do
>>167151816
thanks, hopefully its funs
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>>167151627
>25/50 str/arc
is good because you can use most weapons effectively by converting them to elemental or arcane damage, except the amygdalan arm, burial blade, blade of mercy, chicage and bloodletter. You also can use hunter tools decently

>50/25 str/skl
this is good because you can use basically every single weapon effectively (except kos parasite) with 27% temperings and heavy abyssals
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does anyone want to help me savescum frc firedoggo later?
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>>167151893
>except the amygdalan arm, burial blade, blade of mercy, chicage and bloodletter
You forgot Reiter, Bowblade, Rifle Spear and Fist of Gratia
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>>167152030
>not using fist of gratia to be a hipster
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>>167151893
thing i dont like about physical is to do the most damage you need to use bbp, im not exactly the best at remembering shit like that so i guess arc will be the better way to go for me personally
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do npc summon things ever appear in frc dungeons?
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>>167152364
Arc is better because you don't have to skip slimes in the dungeons.
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>>167152452
I don't think so, they're shit most of the time anyway.
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>>167152452
They appear as enemies.
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>>167152578
better not be including queen killer in that fuckboy
queen killers the fucking best, also the guy with the loch shield you can summon for ebby, he dodges her charges like an absolute madman
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anyone wanna join a nigga savescumming frc abhorrent beast?
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>>167152662
QK is alright unless it's for Amy, he can't do shit against it. Damien for Bribri is okay.
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Is there any point in getting cold abyssals for the moonlight greatsword when you have a str/arc build?
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>>167134762
Brador is outclassed by larger beasts and is only used to fighting them as human sized. So it was probably Ludwig with either of his great swords.
(His cloaks item description)
(His character bio in the dlc manual)
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>>167153168
Nope, get Nourishings for it.
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for a fire converted whirligig saw do more damage than a fire converted saw spear if they had the same gems?
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>>167153945
Yes
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noone wanna help me savescum frc abhorrent beast? :^)
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>>167154253
why are you even doing that

just get two cold abyssals and a 27% bolt gem from watchers
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Just when I had a good flowing I just had to decide to go for the defiled hotdog. I froze for a split second when it charged right after it's mask broke and that was it.

That is about the only thing to be afraid of with the moonlight blade and the occasional bse though
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>>167154329
would that be for uncanny?
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>>167154329
Abbhorent Abyssals are better for standard r1s and weapons with low base damage. Plus the droprate for 27.2% Bolt Triangles from Watchers isn't as great as an Abyssal with a decent secondary from my experience.
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>>167154464
Your weapon needs a triangle slot for elemental Watchers gems. Cold abyssals come in all shapes
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>boss on low health
>boss flattens me
>looks like ive got no health left
>put down controller
>character stands up
>wut
>boss hits again and i die
such is life in bloodborne
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>>167154441
You know the tell is the shake, right? Even if you freeze for a second, you should still have time to dodge if you recognize that tell.
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reminder not to reply to tripfags
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so what's the best bullet to damage ratio tool for the hunters tools?
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>>167154892

It was a bit different, it charged faster than usually, right as the mask broke. Or then it's just me, been almost a year since I fought the thing last time. His health was on last fourth though, maybe it's different then.
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>>167154253

I'll help you if you are still here. Havent played in a while so may be a bit rusty.

pw?
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>>167155347
BSE or Augur. Moonlight Beams you have decent gems.
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>>167155378
topmeme
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>>167155347
its augur against almost everything, but in my testing if you can get ACB off underneath one reborn, hotdog, or bsb when it is bent over, then like 12 of the projectiles will hit which will do absolutely retarded damage. The absolute most efficient damage per bullet is from a charged r2 followp on a fully arcane hmls, as the projectile will do 2.4x arc ar, so you can hit for 1500 easily
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>>167155457

Searching...
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>>167155378
ringing?
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>>167155834
kek, fucked him up there, reringing once its reloaded
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>>167156038

Sure
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>>167156108
alright reringing
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>>167156108
fuck, sorry, thought he was turning to face you, reringing
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>>167156348

Dont get greedy now
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>>167156348

What are you looking for? Abyssals?
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>>167156389
reringing,
maybe the next one wont be a damp one
>>167156662
yes friendo
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Guys, have never needed a filter but now I don need to filter out a certain name I often see here. How do, pls advise?
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>>167156734
get 4chanx and theres probably some guides or something on how to add them
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>>167156734
/^!/
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>>167156389
not sure why its taking so long this time (assuming youre ringing)
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>>167157006

I am. BB things I guess.
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>>167157126
if it takes much long i wont mind if you wanna stop, dont wanna waste your time
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>>167157006

Going to restart BB. Usually works for me.
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>>167157229

Ring again in two minutes. Oh, I could use a better abyssal myself.
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>you will never get to eat the blacksky eye or augur of ebrietas to see what happens
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Going through a freshly generated Isz FRC. In case anyone want to join:
pass: bbgfrc
glyph: 793xe77j
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another damp one, this is fun
this is not fun
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>>167157229

Attack down, the best curse in the game. NOICE.
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>>167157817
kek
reringing
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>>167157764

Whoa, I thought people received the same items. Well, the more you know. I got an abyssal but attack down as per usual.
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>>167157817
another damp :^)
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Does the weapon durability down curse stack when multiple ones are equipped?
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>>167157817
>>167158246
reringing
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>>167158298
yes
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41/15/25/12/5/50 (98)
how'd i do?
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>>167158335

Got someone else. New pw? A really, really unique one, preferably with some numbers in it.
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>>167157932
>>167158335
>>167158605
could try a new password yeah, new one is topmeme173
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>>167158436
Gud, but I would've swapped 2 out of End and put it in Skl for Church Pick.
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>>167158708
nevermind, that didnt fit, just do meme173
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>>167158751
i thought aobut that, but i cant really see anything that my bolt saif and fire whirligig cant do that a church pick can, aside from righteous but theres only like 4 enemies that take righteous damage
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>>167158298
They stack to an extent but you might as well slot 3 w/ dura down if you're gonna put in 1 since the difference isn't significant. Doesn't affect gunshots/arrows too.
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>>167158792

Ringing
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>>167158872
It's more about having options, Church Pick has a pretty sweet moveset.
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>>167158872
unless >>167158751 can think of any?
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>>167158792

Terrible luck today. I got abyssals with stam curse from The Elder first try twice. The good ol' days.
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>>167158921
>hp drain -9
kek
reringing
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>>167159003

Screw all those weapons, an arc build only needs a cleaver and a spear and 99 ARC.
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>>167159176
guess our connections fucked again
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>>167159268
>>167159642

Not shitting you, got someone else again. Enough with the memes, lol.

PW is tr808313
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>>167159673
ringing with that then
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>>167159673
>not liking my meme passwords
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>>167159867

Meme is so memey, everyone uses it :P

My pw got us connected within seconds. Unique pw > meme pw

Damp btw, BLEGH
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>167159673>exactly the same shitty -9 hp drain gem :^)
:^) :^) :^) :^)
:^)
:^) :^) :^
i hate this
reringing
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>>167159867

Jezus, taking ages again. This game, man.
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>>167160054
>my pw got us connected in seconds
but not this time ;_;
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>>167160310
i'll understand if you wanna stop friendly friendo
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>>167160324

The way co-op works in this game prevents me from rating it 10/10. Easily the shittiest online ever witnessed in a video game.
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>>167160454
>exactly the same shitty secondary
>wpn durability down -67.5
why game...
reringing
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>>167160397

I have some time to spare.

Damp and a blood rock.
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>>167160698

Dura down is not too bad on certain weapons.

Got someone else again. Surely someone is trolling us?
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>>167160992
il pm you a new password for the next one
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>>167161054

Good idea
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How rare are blood rocks? I've only found one so far (the window you can roll into in Mensis that's the same place that lets you drop the spoopy eyeball down the hole). I know there's some kind of alternate versions of weapons so I don't want to go wasting my rock on something that I'll find a better version of at some point.
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>>167136426
Yes, in the nightmare, not in the waking world.
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>>167161097
reringing with new pw
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>>167161256
Rocks are pretty rare in that there's only five possible guaranteed pick-ups. But Depth 5 bosses can drop them and eventually you can buy them for 60 Insight.

>better version
Weapon versions have different gem slots. They aren't linear upgrades or anything.
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>>167161256

Only two in the main game/DLC, plus three you can get from the deepest chalice dungeons. Once you start farming those dungeons, you will be rolling in them though.
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>there are people who unironically level VIT
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whoever was memeing us with using the same passwords, youre an ass, but well memed
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>>167147259
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>>167161536
>There are people who unironically level
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>>167161097
>atk down
:^)
reringing
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>>167161549

Connecting was a lot quicker. Dammit 4chan.

Ok, so what is a good abyssal from this guy supposed to look like? Never farmed Abhorrent before. I got -hp drain this time.
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>>167161681
>jap letters
get out
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>>167161910
>jap game
>doesn't like nippon
you get out
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>>167161853
ideal is +33 bolt as a secondary which a good curse like stamina cost up
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>>167161694
>there are people who unironically do things that give them any advantage against the enemies
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>>167161960
get out
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>>167162070
>there are people who unironically attack enemies
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>>167161853
yet another damp gem episode, reringing
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>>167162003

Got bolt attack up 22.5, add bolt 32.6, stam curse 3.0

NOICE. OK, I'm out. I kid.
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>>167162104
>post on chinese image board
>dedicated to chinese cartoons
>does't like chinese runes
heh
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>>167162473
its actually korean fuckboy
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>>167161536
What fuckin of it m8
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>>167162404
right now il take any abyssal with a + bolt secondary, i dont care about the curse anymore

reringing
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>>167162554
I'm pretty sure it's Indian
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>>167162768

Getting lots of abyssals now. My luck has returned.
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>>167162839
It's fucking cantonese, you donut.
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>>167162839
>not knowing hebrew when you see it
retard
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>>167162870
yet another damp
this is like the feeling i get when i get cucked by hibiki
reringing
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>>167162948
>hebrew
>not mayan yucatec

Jesus fucking Christ, anon.
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>>167163176
>not realizing its arabic
you silly sausage
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>>167163161

These abyssals dont seem to be that impressive though. A damp gem that I have only gives me 4 less total AR than that abyssal. Meh.
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>>167163307
il see how much it changes mine after the next kill if its another damp
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Is the church cannon or gatling gun worth upgrading to +10 with 50 blt?
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>>167163438
Yes
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>>167163307
i think our connection might be fucked again
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>>167163307
>>167163694
nvm, spoke too soon
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>>167163438
If you use them regularly I don't see why not.
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>>167163438

No and if you can even wield those you've ruined your bloodtinge build.
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>>167163307
fuck, sorry, and with you not getting as much ar, you mightve just had a really good gem before or something, mine isnt that great
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>>167163694
i think ive only got time for 1 more unfortunately
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Which one is better on a 50Str/25Skl build: Church cannon or cannon?
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>>167164110
cannon, church cannon is just a meme
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>>167163863

Yeah, taking ages again. I'm out for now, time to fix dinner. Nice playing with you. If you need help again, you know where to find me.
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>>167164110
Cannon, CCannon requires investment in Blt which is mostly useless for Strength builds.
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>>167164259
rushed in to do a quick solo one
the first 2 parts were perfect
but then
>atk down -8.2%
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>>167164259
thanks for the help anyway mate
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I still can't figure it out is Pthumerian Descendad easy or one of the most bullshit bosses here. I can either get him to half the health with a vis. or get wrecked by a 5 hit combo because I miss my dodge.
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>lower pthumeru 3
>kill bell-ringing maiden
>red dudes don't despawn

I guess there's another, then?
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>>167165173
He's complete bullshit difficult. HMPH is a meme for a reason.
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Anyone wanna help me clear out Lower Pthumeru 3? This is fucking tedious. Pass is bbg.
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>>167166807
SRRCing in my dude
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Found
>3 Red Jelly
>8 Bastards of Loran
and
>15(!) Sage's Hair
in a single non-FRC Lower Loran root dungeon.

I guess maybe offline FRC farming isn't so impossible after all. Will just have to make turns with regular Lower Loran to farm shit in.
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>>167162275
>there are people who unironically play the game
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>>167168397
People like cursed dungeons because all enemies drop powerful cursed gems. Foetid makes it so some enemies have a red buff that makes them stronger and drop up to rating 18 gems. Rotted makes it so rare and powerful enemies spawn.

Basically, it's all in the pursuit of gems, not ritual materials
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>>167168673
You cannot make cursed dungeons without the materials to begin with, in case you didn't know.
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>>167168397
You gonna post that glyph?

Now we just need a good one for Yellow Backbone.
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>>167168673
Some people don't have PS+ to use glyphs
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>>167164259
What were you lads farming?
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>>167168864
I've got tons of backbones from another FRC I made, but I think that's just because I got lucky with drops from the dungeon knights.

But in this one there are two chests with 6-9 Sage's Hair.

xe3r4cbc
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God damn, Chalice Rom packs a punch.

>>167166890
I'll give it one more go before I have to go to lunch. Thanks for helping out. I just need to be more careful about watching Rom.
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>>167165173

HPMH and Loran Darkbeast are the most annoying bosses to fight in CFR dungeons.
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>>167169296
Fuck

Sorry, dude, half the time its these spiders stunlocking me. Post again when you're up for another go.
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>Cooperator dies

>doing great though

>LOST CONNECTION TO BLOODBORNE SERVER: RETURNING TO MAIN MENU


AAAAAA

>>167169478
No problem man, I had the same issue. I'll probably be back ringing for more chalices later today.
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is bloodborne online kill?
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>>167169802
Doing random SRRC co-op and I'm on basically third world internet
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>>167149801
this

fuck kkvk
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What's the "recommended" rune setup? I've been quite liking the "gain health on visceral" one but it's starting to get much less useful now that I'm getting higher in level.
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So how's is PVP in this game? Never tried it despite beating the game a couple times. Is it a bunch of parry fishing? What's the "mete" level? Are Arcane builds shit for it?
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>>167170579

Stamina and HP % runes. Everything else is useless.
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>>167170681
the Lake rune is pretty good (+5% all defenses)
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>tfw Gehrman speaks to you during the fight
>he tells you why he hunted and tells you to admire the night
>he even says you will know of this eternal misery if you kill him
I love this fight
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Can a weapon apply slow and rapid poison at the same time?
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>>167170838
what kind of madman would even do such a thing
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>>167170838
I think it can with the right gems
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>>167170838
yes but it would be really really bad, poison is shite in bb and you would be gimping both types by combining them
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>>167171214
yeah but slow poinson is good when people meme themselves when they like they have to use the antidote straight away and you can slap them like the silly sausage they are when they do that
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Fucking HATE winter lanterns.
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>>167173014
and they hate you too fuckboy
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>>167173070
>kill the one in the poison swamp
>sedative animation takes a million fucking years
>get killed

FUCK
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>>167173363
>drop down from some hole in nightmare frontier because exploring
>land infront of a winter lantern
>no sedatives in quick select thing
>am kill
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Holy shit, phones are flying off the hook on SRRC today
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How do I survive that White Lantern in the poison at Nightmare Frontier?
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>>167174150
parry it by shooting just as the arms start moving inwards, riposte just as frenzy hits
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>>167174150
How much Insight do you have? Get rid of it. Insight lowers frenzy resistance, which is what Lanterns give you. KIll Djura in Old Yharnam and get his gear, has the highest Frenzy resistance in the game (apart from another character's helmet, but you don't have access to that yet). If you haven't, send the old lady in Central Yharnam to the Chapel, she gives you come free sedatives after nightfall, I believe.
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>>167174283
Well that helped. Thanks.

>>167174348
Have 50. I've already received his Badge. Any other quest shit with him? I guess I can kill him now.
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>>167174150
What do you mean survive? Just heal to full and whack her. Even if you won't be able to pop a sedative in time, frenzy shouldn't kill you anyway.
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>>167174581
if you have the gesture he is of no further use
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>>167174581
If you have the gesture, go and kill him, frenzy WILL appear later.
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Does anyone want to kill defiled hot doggo and Amy with me? Pass: bbg
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What do I need to buy sedatives again?

Also, did they really patch out the Cainhurst skip? :(
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>>167175349
> Cainhurst skip
For the lever? No.
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>>167175321
Sounds like a nightmare, on my way
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>>167175349
need the badge from upper catedral ward
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How the fuck do I dodge BLB charge?
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>>167175905
Nevermined, Whipped it to death in my 3rd try. Cane is godlike on these big assholes like BLB or Camera Beast
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>>167175905
Like you dodge every other attack, you can also run out of range but that's harder.
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>NG+3
>50 STR
>50 SKI
>40 Blood
>50 Arcane
Luwdig's scaling is fucking insane that it becomes my strongest weapon even if half-ass my blood gem picks. Moonlight sword is still great and I love the overhead transformation slam. Pizza cutter is also fun as hell and the other DLC weapons like the Bowblade and church pick are fun to fuck around with.

I also seem to have the worst fucking luck with Abyssal gems because all the ones I get are garbage
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>>167176362
nice
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>tfw lost both my summons to amy jump
Today has been an interesting day
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>>167176850
I usually have that timing down but JEEZ, it just would not stop

Did you get it?
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>>167176850
>Solo defiled amy
>Kept dying to the jump
>Just stuck close to the legs and just clubbed the last tenth of his HP with my pizza club
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>>167176912
Yeah, it is kill. I almost died to the amy jump right after you guys died
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Is there any glyph for good chunk farming?
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>find church pick in DLC after seeing people talk about
>this tricked moveset
>this damage with that moveset
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>>167177885
>Above 25% Thrust Gems for all three slots
Murder everything and stagger niggas
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>>167177463
Just run though Isz chalice. Should get you 2-6 chunks and maybe a blood rock if you are lucky
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>>167178024
That renders the 1H form almost useless and you don't even get that much more ar
>>
So, assuming Paleblood Hunt is accurate, why does the Amygadala in the ruins bleed white?
Who is the blood minister? I thought only members of the church knew how to minister blood. Why does the waking world doll move a little?
Why did they make kids where Mensis cages as well?
WHY do winter lanterns look like the doll, and why is their head made of messenger corpses?
Why is the beast cutter the sexiest weapon in any video game?
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>>167178340
>1H form useless
That's the idea, I don't really feel like farming up more gems. Every single attack in the 2H form is a thrusting one and I easily break 500+ scaling damage
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>>167178024
I have a question about that, actually. This is only my 2nd run (and 1st going through the DLC) so I'm not really in the know about gemtism. Are those blunt/thrust ATK% up gems actually better than straight up physATK% ones? The stats sheet when you're putting them on has only ever showed me a reduction in damage when looking at the former over the latter.
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>>167178821
Adept (Blunt/Thrust) gems obviously only affect certain damage types. A full set of 32.6% Thrust gems on a Church Pick will be pretty monstrous, but will also mostly affect only the tricked mode. Basically, if you'd like to use both forms of the weapon, go for 27.2% gems. 32.6% gems will give you more damage at the cost of limiting your moveset.
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>>167148252
Bloodborne 2 : The Quest for More Blood

I wouldn't mind a sequel but I'd rather have more DLC.
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>>167178821
The blunt/thrust ATK% up is only good with weapons like the beast cutter and the church pick due to their entire damage output either being blunt (beast cutter) and thrust (2h form of church pick). The AR does not show this damage increase, but if you press square, you can see it under the corresponding damage section.
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whats that smell? the sweet blood oh it sings to kos, or some say kosm...
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>>167179505
Beast all over the kos...
You'll be kosm soon enough
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>>167179647
a hunter is a hunter even in kos, or some say kosm...
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>>167179691
Tonight, kos joins the kosm
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>>167179761
welcome home good kos, or some say kosm...
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kos, or some say kos, or some say kosm...
>>
Fucking retards all around the shop.
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>>167180113
>around the shop
get out
>>
A kos
some should say be left
well enough kosm
>>
>noone will ever add an unnecesary m onto the end of your name
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>>167177463
isz ptwrx6tb
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>>167178357
I'm not gonna read 90 pages of one guy's headcanon, to be honest.

No-tentacle Amy's are different in some way to 'lesser Amygdalae'. How? It's an alien, you'll never know unless you can jiggle its non-existant diddlies. Maybe the tentalces are the jigglies.

Doll is the game's biggest mystery. Is she a Great One? Kin? An inanimate form brought to life with alien power? Is she an artificial Great One, a mechanical alien? She bleeds white, sure, and you seem to become her surrogate in the third ending. We just don't know what her deal is, at all.

The blood minister was a blood minister of the Healing Church, just some guy who works for them. I assume Iosefka's Clinic had some of these types of guys working there, Iosefka was possibly Church herself. Everyone in the town probably is to an extent. You kind of are by default, I think.

Kids with Mensis cages = Mensis are fucking weirdo cultists with no morals.

Doll is a mystery, those horrible fucks are, too. Mensis Brain seems to be biggest one, they're all made of messengers, who are natural Nightmare inhabitants. Maybe the Doll is a Lantern before it becomes a Lantern. Maybe there's Dolls under every Lantern. Who fuckin knows.

It has just fucking nutso range and stagger, dat follow up R2 pancake, good fuckin sounds, good shit.
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>>167180113
better go back the way you came boi
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>>167180397
>unnecesary
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>>167180113
>around the shop
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>>167180113
Away! Away!
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>>167180586
pls dont make fun of my spelling, i lack insight
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>>167180459
It's decent headcanon, was a good read and a lot of connections sound right but there's a lot of unanswered and ignored shit too. I feel like his concept of paleblood is the best.
>>
>savescumming for some abyssal
>keep getting shit
>eventually get a good one
>also get a blood rock
ayy
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>>167180689
>making fun about spellibg mistakes
I don't do such things.
I mean that the m is necessary
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>>167181114
Same thing happened to me yesterday. Feels good
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>>167178340
Like 2/3 of the 1h moveset is thrust too guy
>>
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HEARING COHERENT WORDS BESIDES
BEAST
TOWN
AND AWAY
https://youtu.be/CZo1_O3LlDs
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Anyone wanna help me kill Lower Pthumeru Rom (level 3) come, pass is bbg.
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>>167157398
Is this rajang armor?
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>>167180691
At the end of the day, that's all we really have to go on, headcanon, the game is made to be interpretable in a number of ways, Paleblood never actually is elaborated upon properly. Miyazaki wanted the players to experience piecing a story together from fragments like he did reading English books and watching English television as a kid and not understanding all the words. Or, funnily enough, like The Call of Cthulhu, correlating the contents, as it were, piecing together a terrible truth from a number of disparate sources. Honestly pretty smart of him.
>>
>>167182171
On my way, you guy from earlier?
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>>167181972
Honestly, the huntsmen's dialogue is what makes them some of my favourite enemies in any fromsoft game.

I mean, just play any other Souls game after BB and you'll notice every area seems really hollow (ba dum tsssh), simply put nothing seems alive because all the enemies just grunt or occasionally mumble out an incoherent chant, but walking through Central Yharnam and listening to all the huntsmen talking to themselves or yelling at you really makes Yharnam feel alive.
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>>167182737
Yeah, be ringing in 5 minutes
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>>167182840
Aaaand he's dead. Thanks again.

>do so much damage rom dies immediately after first teleport

That's more like it. Hard to believe I was having so much trouble before.
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>>167182840
Neato, am warming up the SRRC
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>>167183470
Damn I wanted to join in. Would you like some help with the bloodletting beast?
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>>167183470
That was not me, but glad you got him m8
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>>167183470
Pshhhhh check it, me and some anon named Iosefka helped some guy kill Rom before he could teleport a long time ago
https://youtu.be/gPwKEFBBo28
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>>167183595
>>167183597
>>167183474
I got some work to do first. Later tonight though, probably.
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I'm using chikage/evelyn and my stats are 50/13/10/50/50/8. What should I level now? PVE only
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>>167183738
Probaby end then str unless you want to use tools
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>>167183738
>PVE only
Well then there's really no reason not to go 50 in everything, I recommend starting with str since str has a lot of fun weapons to play around with.
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>>167183738
Level more bloodtinge so you have a better gun to shoot yourself you Vileblood degenerate
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>tfw you hit Make Contact instead of League Oath in the scroll down list in response to someone else after a fight
>>
Lost or uncanny beast cutter?
Same for boom hammer.
>>
>>167183732
>kill rom with Hibiki
>decide to mosey on down and light the next lantern on level 4 before shutting down
>DETECTED THE RESONANCE OF A SMALL RESONANCE BELL
>wat
>My Beckoning Bell from the previous level was still ringing
>By the resonance of the Beckoning Bell you have summoned GoldenCricket56!
>o-okay
>spaghetti a bit but decide to give it a go
>he sprints off and disappears into the level while I'm fighting some trash mobs
>20 seconds later
>UNLOCKED
>comes back and leads me to every single chest
>then we double Beast Cutter the bloodletting beast to death

Thanks, Cricket. Was fun.
>>
>>167184996
What build?
>>
Darkbeast Paarl, anyone? Ringing at that path right before the fog, set password as bolt
>>
>>167170838
Yes.

You'd want to farm Madmen poison gems. I actually have a triangle and waning gems that give +13 Slow Poison, +7.5 rapid poison. You could also theoretically get +15 rapid poison, +6 slow poison. Which would equal about 30 in each type. This would poison most people in two Wheel Dash R1's.

However you are much better having two wheels with dedicated Slow and Rapid poison gems, that can poison people in one hit, slow poisoning them and then switching to Rapid poison.
>>
>>167185497
ringadingding
>>
>>167185663
Awesome, thank you
Paarl always fucks my shit up
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>>167184128
>Make Contact is not his only gesture
You need to cleanse yourself of your beastly idiocy
>>
>>167185915
no prob lad
>>
>doing random SRRC
>find a guy fighting HMPH
>nearly kill it, but he dies to wombo combo
>ringing for more co-op
>he messages me, asking if I could help him again
>I feel honoured and set the pass he gives me
>can't remember his name exactly due to shit memory issues
>get summoned into the world, going to fight Rom
>doesn't seem right
>beat Rom in a few minutes
>message him if that was him
>it wasn't, someone else was using that same pass
>he tells me he beat HMPH anyway
>feel like I fucking failed him
>>
>defiled chalice on a twink
Lord have mercy is this the right of passage?
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>>167187235
>having trouble with defiled
>ever
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>>167187235
No. All the bosses are cheesable as fuck.
>>
you can't join a coop session of someone in a depth 5 FRC if you have not yet created your own FRC root dungeon of that type yourself, right?
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>>167185282
Just saw this. No problem. Only if you had the "name" to show...
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>>167187235
>trying to twink
>is a scrub
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>>167187308
good manga
anime was fine
movies were not
>>
Where's the pest place to farm blunt/thrust gems? I'm using a beast cutter and church pick, and getting both of them fully gemmed would be nice.
>>
>>167188359
pwmf22gu Watchers for Radials. 5pwuscd Watchers for Triangles. The drop rates are low.

Read the OP next time.
>>
>>167188485
by68zgaj is better for radials.
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>>167188625
rpkipbdn is better than 5pwuscd for triangles. The OP is a year outdated.
>>
>>167187625
>of that type
You don't need to create an FRC version of all dungeons
Creating a chalice with the foetid rite will unlock the foetid rite for any root chalice you have
You could even make a depth 3 foetid dungeon and it would give you access to depth 5 foetid dungeons, for instance, given you have the root chalice for it
>>
>>167188359

kf25wenq for radials up to 31.5 from a regular watcher in the first bonus area. much higher drop rate than the watcher bosses. way less farming
>>
>>167188759
Is there a updated version somewhere?
>>
>>167187625
Still, though, they need to have made a dungeon with lower loran root chalice to help me in my FRC loran? Right? Or any depth 5 root dungeon as long as they have the lower loran root chalice in their inventory?

Also, if you have someone cooping with you through the dungeons, can they get the dungeon rewards from the bosses without having to re-do the dungeons in their own world? Like if they help someone do Lower Pthumeru start to finish, will they get defiled chalice from the fourth boss even though they are a cooperator?
>>
To join you in a FRC dungeon they need to have used all three rites themselves, though not necessarily in the same dungeon, and they need the root chalice
They will get the gem and upgrade mat for beating the boss but that's it
Only the host will get the chalices
>>
>>167189076
I started BB a month ago and have been constantly researching and gathering information. The lucky thing is I have over a year's worth of information from various sites (bbg, reddit, gamefaqs, tumblr) so I'm able to compare notes and discard needless/obsolete information while gaining newer and better ones. The trend I've noticed is that people are using inferior glyphs due to familiarity or a lack of cause to do additional research. So here I am, I have to sift through all of these glyphs and test them myself. I do keep a small list myself but it's not complete because I only have a few builds for it. For example, I havn't bothered with BT builds so no relevant glyphs.
>>
>>167187308
>>167187346
>>167187775
Not saying its impossible but surely it's harder than 90% of the rest of the games content
>>
>>167189978
>a boss with no poise whose second phase can be interrupted with a gunshot and can be parried
>a boss who is pretty much the gatekeeper to chalices
>defiled "grilled cheese" amygdala
>harder than the DLC
yeah nah, you're shit
>>
>made my first FRC
>bell maiden and witch in the same room
I thought it was supposed to be fun.
>>
>>167190575
Post webm/pic
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>>167190575
Every time I see a witch I immediately unzip my bowblade
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>>167189056
> much higher droprate

Are you sure?

I thought Watcher mobs and Watcher bosses had the exact same loot pool and drop rates, except bosses are obviously garunteed gems every run and go up to Rating 19.

I know Lumpy sure as hell doesn't drop Adepts very often.
>>
>>167190575

Best room I found was one with two wandering HPMHs, bell maiden, a fire witch, 2 chikage fag NPCs and a wandering Orphan.

FRCs are fun, just git gud.
>>
>>167190783
How much damage can you do with one arrow?
>>
>>167190783
>not even a BMA cannon +10
>>
>>167191061
Best I found was an oil swamp with three Wandering Laurence's and the rest of the dungeon was nothing but Rolling Fatties and Rite Keepers buffing them. Shame the boss was just Mergo's WetNurse though, Lethal Abyysals are useless on my build.
>>
>>167191648
At +10 and like 45 BLT with gems around 20% I usually kill them in three or four hits.
>>
How many materials does it take to upgrade items fully? Is it 16 shards, twin shards and chunks? And then a rock.
>>
>>167192172
Yep, 16, 16, 16, 1.
>>
>>167192172
yes
I don't understand why you ask shit like that here when it's easily solved quicker in google, and you don't make yourself look like a newfag
>>
>>167192282
Thanks m8, could have sworn it was 18 for a sec

>>167192295
I've been playing this game for nearly two years straight and have memory issues, sorry to inconvenience you, now get that bee outta your bum.
>>
>>167192295
>so he doesn't ruin his reputation on an anonymous indonesian wife-swapping chatroom
>>
>>167192587
>and have memory issues
Must be great having each playthrough feel like the first time
How do I get alzheimers?
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>>167192295
>getting this triggered
>being an insufferable faggot

>>167192587
No sweat m8. It's different for every Souls game too IIRC so it's tough to keep track of.
>>
>>167192587
I'm just trying to help you. In the two minutes it took for someone to reply, you could have answered a lot more of your questions other than just how many bloodstones you need.
>>167192683
so he doesn't shit up the place with literal release date questions that have been archived on the wikis for two years
>>
anyone who has convinced themselves that farming amygdala is "easy" is fucking delusional

all her shitty arm sweep attacks stun-lock you into getting hit and killed by the next arm in the sweep, and she constantly animation-cancels into that fucking scratch-below-her-legs move. And every attack kills in one hit. Also her AI constantly glitches out and stops jumping / starts jumping when you are already under her

Worst of all she is so stingy about dropping abyssals. There is no other boss I hate farming more than amy
>>
>>167192848
>anyone who has no trouble farming amygdala and considers it easy are delusion because I'm too shit to do it
lel
>>
>>167192848
Amy is the easiest thing to farm. Line up with its tail as it jumps.
Don't be fucking retarded.
>>
>>167192782
I was also running around buying chunks with insight, I got my answer exactly when I needed it, I've been trudging through DaS2 recently and that uses different numbers, got my stuff mixed up, we can make a new thread and forget this ever existed
>>
>>167193128
sometimes it stops jumping and just keeps stomping forever until you go back to fighting it normally

no, seriously
>>
>>167192848
I bet you think BSB is hard
>>
>>167192693
Holy Jesus don't even joke, I'm not that bad yet. The game's pretty burned into my head at this point, to be honest. I'd love for a new first playthrough, but not at the expense of forgetting how to shit.
>>
>>167192848
Easy=/=fun or quick
You shouldn't be dying to it, but that doesn't mean that you'll be getting your gems as fast as say some cold abyssals
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>>167192848
>anyone who has convinced themselves that farming amygdala is "easy" is fucking delusional
And anyone who intuitively knew how to navigate Dark Souls' item menu is retarded.
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>>167192848

That bitch is way too time consuming, I got better things to do than farm her.
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>>167192848
But in all seriousness you sound like you're having a kind of problem I catch myself having: Have a problem, bang your head against it and get angry, rather than backing off and coming up with a solution.

So what do we know about Amygdala?
-Anons claim using jump cheese is an easy way to farm him
-When you get under his legs to try and initiate a jump, he just stomps, or does that multi-hit ground scratching over and over
-In phase 3, he cannot do the ground scratching move, so his only options are to stomp, or to jump
Solution? Don't try and use the jump cheese through all three phases.
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Anyone want to fuck over the Choir and completely wreck the Upper Cathedral Ward with me? NG+

Pass is bbg, ringing at the lamp
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>>167194931
you still there my friendo?
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>>167195289
I am indeed!
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>>167195414
be there is 2 mins
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>>167195414
>>167195535
ringing
i can still join your world if im still only in NG right?
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>>167195535
Fugg they got me in some corner, ringing again if you're up for it

>>167195898
Absolutely, yes, the enemies will be NG+ difficulty is all
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>>167195414
what happened there?
i think my internet might've cut out or something as everything froze but then you died
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>>167196105
wanna do ebby while we're here?
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>>167196629
Absolutely! Ringing now, my man
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>>167196687
outside where the boss fog would be?
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>>167196687
well that was fun, gave her the business there
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>>167196996
Absolutely shrekt, cheers my man!
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>lets do some co-op in the chalice dungeons
>defiled amy
>defiled watchdog

Fuck me, shit is so boring.
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>>167197436
>make str/arc build
>destroy amy in every dungeon
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>>167197436
Just make a Root dungeon and post a pass
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is 39vit enough on an arc build for frc's or is 40+ recommended
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>>167197436
Random SRRC kills me inside
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>>167197584
This is my new favorite BB image
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>>167197631
It's enough for FRC, 40-50 is recommended for PvP.
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>>167197631

I have 30 vit and think it's enough, 99 ARC is just too sweet. HMPH/HPMH/HMMPH/HUMP whatever the fuck he is called and Loran Darkbeast can be a bitch though, I tend to summon for those two.
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>>167197883
alright well on my str/arc build im at 39/15/25/12/5/50, should i put the last 2 points into vit then if im planning on doing pvp or into skill for church pick?
(i usually do 15 end and ive found that is comfortable for me which is why its at 15)
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Anyone up for Laurence?

pass is sadness ringing at fog
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>>167198016
Personally I'd take 1 or 2 out of End and put it into Vit and the other 2 in Skl for Church Pick. But if you already have 15 End, I'd put the remaining points into Vit for PvP. You can go 99 and get 40 Vit with the Church Pick, only difference from 98 is you can't invade 80s and 118s can probably invade you.
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>>167193263
>You shouldn't be dying to it
And how's that? She does like 900 damage in any old hit she lands. You have to go the whole fight without being hit once, every time
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why do people think church pick is so good on an arc build? saif is almost all thrust so can be used as bolt and whirligig saw is... whirligig saw. apart from the righteous damage (which only effects like 4 or 5 enemies and most of those are only in cainhurst and occaisionally frc's)
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>>167198280
Please, anyone?
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>>167198886
blunt / thrust are properties of physical damage, and since you stop doing physical damage when you convert a weapon using ARC, weapons like the church pick stop doing thrust damage entirely
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>>167198919
okay I will

lemme put my fire shit on
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>>167198886

Elemental spears rule supreme. Screw investing in skl and str, its an arc build ffs.
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>>167199059
>thinking this
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>>167199059
well memed
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>>167199245
>>167199358
He's right, you fucking idiots.
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>realize I'm missing 1 ritual blood 4 from ailing loran

>don't know which area i missed it in

>they all look the goddamn same

AAAAAAH
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>>167199245
>>167199358
Stop samefagging. Dude's right that it loses thrust. The advantage of arcane is being able to use so many weapons, but they will never be as good as their physical damage counterparts. Jack of all trades, master of none. But of course, inb4 game is too easy toncare about minmax.
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>>167198886
> Saif is almost all thrust

First of all, no it's not. It has 1 or 2 thrust attacks in its entire moveset.

Secondly when converted to Bolt/Fire/Arcane no attacks are thrust on any weapon, they are all elemental damage. So a Bolt Kirkhammer is just as effective as a Bolt Church Pick against Brainsuckets even though they have a billion blunt defense.
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>>167199059
if thats the case then why do people love it so much on an arc build if the only thing it really has over whirligig is an overall lower stat requirements (but on a 25/50 str/arc build youre going past whirligigs stat requirement anyway)?
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Someone wanna help me with Ailing Loran 2? Password is bbg. I'm trying to grab the 4 ritual blood in the pre-boss bonus area but there's like fucking 3 bell bitches calling spiders in a flood.
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>>167199605
>never as good as their physical coutnerparts
xaxaxaxaxa
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>>167199646
Because people including you are stupid and don't do their research.
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>>167198919
>>167199169
nice, we did it

Laurence is a dangerous motherfucker. Gotta be pretty cautious for his last phase
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>>167199515
>>167199770
Just farm Lumpy for Blood (4).
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>>167199779
You're either new or delusional to think a church pick with bolt paper isn't going to outdamage an arcane bolt church pick.
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>>167199783
>no counterpoints
explain why then?
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>>167199818
Thanks.

I was only level 50 with 25 VIT, so I was being extra cautious.
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>>167199646
Gee, it's almost like people like the Church Pick because of its moveset. Wild, right?

Real talk, people are going to use whatever weapons they enjoy regardless of how "viable" or what-have-you they are for PvP. Just because it isn't the absolute best doesn't mean it isn't fun.

>>167199605
>>167199887
To be fair, some weapons can get higher damage output in the right situations as a converting arc weapon rather than a physical weapon. Serrated fire weapons versus beasts, or bolt weapons against kin, for example. Sure, popping Beast Blood Pellets and using a paper is probably still the strictly best setup there is, but if you've ever hit an oiled beast with a charge R2 from a fire weapon, you'd know where I'm coming from when I say that arc can get some of the highest damage numbers possible.
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>>167199887
Not him, but wouldn't that depend on the enemy? If I understand correctly, paper adds a flat elemental bonus on top of the existing physical damage, whereas gems convert it all. So if an enemy was really weak to bolt, the entirety of the bolt pick's damage would be multiplied, rather than just the flat bonus of bolt paper.

>>167199883
who/where is lumpy
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>guy messages me asking if my low level character is a hacked
>then he assumes its "not legit" and I must have been carried
>then he asks for help on Ludwig
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>>167199887
going all out on the bait i see
paper adds 80 flat damage, enemies weak to bolt will get hurt more by a bolt converted weapon, the same for beasts with a fire converted weapon
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>>167199605

My elemental bolt and fire cleavers destroy everything in game abusing the weaknesses enemies/bosses have. Physical is weak.
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>>167200102
>who/where is lumpy
Lumpy is the Lever guard on Lower Pthumeru, layer 2.

He drops Blood (4), vials, bullets, and an assortment of Cursed gems.
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If anyone wants or needs waning nourishing abyssals, I'm going to be savescumming Amygdala in ske4igwv in a minute or two. The pass will be amyg$ if anyone is interested, I'll start beckoning if this catches any interest.
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>>167200301
THANK you.
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>>167199901
for one, when you look under "thrust" category for damage in your converted church pick, you will see that it is empty. The weapon still has it's moveset multipliers (like how a charged R2 will still do 1.95x the base damage). It's just that now all the damage will be bolt or arcane or fire, and none of it will be physical or any of its subtypes

>>167200061
yeah I saw he got you down to like 10 HP at one point, I was afraid you might've died. I can see how Laurence might feel like a brick wall fighting him with the cane and 25 VIT
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>>167200330

I'm in. Ringing.
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Someone, PLEASE, help me out here on Ailing Loran level 2. I'm losing my fucking hair with all these red spiders. Pass is bbg.
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>>167200330
can I come too
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Lay down some headcanon bullshit on me please I'm thirsty for lore
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>>167200330
So summoned helpers can get gem drops too?
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>>167200679
>>167200824
I'll be a touch longer, but I'll be beckoning soon. In the meantime, if you'd rather not wait for SRRC, the dungeon is an easy run, maybe minus the lever room for the first layer. Bosses are Maneater Boar and Beast Possessed Soul, take you maybe five minutes to quick rush to layer three.
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The cane sucks so bad at low level.
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>>167200301
> people (who arnt me) have made Lumpy images
> my autistic farming of a Depth 3 mob actually turned into helpful advice people share

Is this what it feels like to be important? That fat sack of shit will be my legacy.

>>167200463
Yeah I died to Laurence 20+ times before you came. My damage was ok, but he killed me in 1-2 hits and the last phase is relentless. Just having another person for him to focus on made it 1000x easier.
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>>167200981
Yep. Chunks and rocks too, if the RNG is favorable.
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>>167201135
>Is this what it feels like to be important?
Don't hurt your back sucking yourself off.
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Where do I get fire gems that'll let me deal with loran BSB? My arc tactic of using blacksky Eye isn't doing enough.

>>167201126
Well it does require skill.
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so all these people are saying blunt and thrust dont count on an arc converted weapon, what about serrated?
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>>167201135
What you FOUND was important
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>>167201291
Run through the first Hot Dog twice, then get the fire gem guarded by the bloodsucker in Cathedral Ward (in the part you get to from the workshop).
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>>167201342
Serrated counts. It's bonus damage, like Righteous, not a type of physical damage.
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>>167201342
Serrated and righteous are bonus attributes, not damage subtypes. Weapons keep bonus attributes regardless of if they're converted or not.

It's why you're always told to make a serrated weapon fire, but never a thrust weapon bolt.
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>>167201291
If you have two Hotdog 9% radials and the CW waning, that's enough.

You shouldn't ever take damage fighting BSB so what damage you do is basically irrelevant.

However, to expedite the process of killing her, and other shit in general, you can swing by Lower Pthumeru and pick yourself up some 16% Fire radials.
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>>167201291
The same ones from the Arc guide in the OP. If you need them to be a little higher, farm fire Axe dudes in Lower Pthumeru.
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Can someone help me out with Maria? I keep on almost getting her, but she always beats me in the end.
Password is bbg
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>>167201686
>>167201686
>>167201686
>>167201686
>>167201686
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>>167200972
>Henriett's corpse is where we find the Hunter set with no cape and Top Hat, as she wears that set and we find her at the entrance to the DLC, where she can be summoned for Ludwig)
>The hunter in the Nightmare under the effects of Beast's Embrace is Irreverent Izzy
>Laurence is the scholar who brought the Forbidden Blood to Cainhurst
>Logarius ingested Pthumerian Blood in some way, given his appearance and above-average magical ability
>Ebrietas is a full-sized thing Arianna births known as a Celestial Child
>Brador killed Laurence
>Something fishy is happening with time concerning the Madaras twins, as both they and the snake are dead (Butcher garb descriptions, Whistle descriptions) for Madaras to appear in the Woods
>Henryk is the "grandfather" mentioned by Viola's daughter, possibly as a grandfatherly figure or her literal grandfather
>Beastclaw Jozef is Djura's third companion (he had three according to the description of the Gatling Gun)
>Winter Lanterns are the Nightmare variation of the Doll
Not one bit of this is meant to be taken as pure fact, almost all of this is speculation. If it's also custom hunter story arcs, thought out to a disturbing degree you want, just ask. I have maybe half a dozen ready to go
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does church pick use less stamina in tricked mode than whirligig saw in tricked mode?
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>>167201604
>>167201631
I guess i have to make my tonitrus fire.
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>>167201824
You can't convert split weapons. Put em on a serrated weapon like Saw Spear
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>>16720190
Last time i did it stared doing fire damage though and I don't have saw spear.
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>>167201991
The fire animation when you hit something still happens but you do 0 fire damage with the Toni. I've tested it.
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>>167200679
>>167200824
Beckoning now, if you two are still up for the grind.
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>>167198474
You should have a minimum of 750 hp on a normal build. Which lets you survive most of its hits if you don't flub the dodge. And every class can jump cheese it
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