/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

>>167011724
FIRST FOR BEAST CUTTER

reposting:
If I find a bath merchant in a chalice dungeon selling lost/uncanny versions of weapons, do they then become purchasable in the hunter's dream or do I have to buy them first?

>>167011803
yes

>>167011870
Cool, thanks.

>>167011803
>>167011918
merchants in cds will sell lost/uncanny versons of all dlc weps you can currently buy in dream, buying them does not then add them to the dream shop afaik

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>>167011724
>that one coin out of place

>>167011951
It does

How fun is 99 Arcane? I'll maybe try it but I'm scared of getting oneshot by everything

>>167012123
Why hasn't this been patched

>>167012164
I remember this one cuck from the fight clubs last year this time who had such a build and was a meme because he always died in 1 hit

>>167012231
>always died in one hit
I remember that guy, pretty sure his name was Gorion.

Anything in particular I need to get done before I gank Rom?

>give some dork advice on bosses
>no follow up or thank you

>help some other dork with defi amy
>no follow up or thank you

>try to help some dork with frc camerabeast
>waits until after he attempts the boss, without waiting for me to get there, to post 'hey man just in case you're still ringing, i killed the boss without u :^)'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-sgw9bPV4A

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>>167012231
Rude. I die in two hits if I use two hp runes

>>167012164
It's pretty fun to rely on tools and have a variety of long range attacks. It was easier than I expected because usualy you don't have to get close to do damage but some parts of the game were brutal. If you learn spacing and timing you'll destroy anything lower than bosses before it gets close.

>>167012231
>Why hasn't this been patched
Why would it?

>>167012914
poor lil guy

:(

you need a hug?

Just recently finished the game. Explain please everything to me.

Or at least explain to me what was the Moon Presence? Some thing that fed on Great Ones? Did it cause the plague?

>doing some casual helping with Rom
>one-shotting the babby spoders with my untricked pick r1
>get cocky
>get caught by one of their pounces and obliterated

D A M A G E

Anybody down to help a dude run around the first part of DLC up to Luddy?

>>167013706
Sure, what level?

>>167013729

Im Level 34... is that too low? Im up to Hemwick. Ive done this shit before, I just want dat Saif

>>167013848
I did a chunk of it at that level by sprinting past everything. I think my arcane build might be low enough to help you out. Fair warning it's kind of mediocre. (My build, not the area.)

>>167014001

Thats fine. ill be ringing soon. pw is govikes

>>167013848
Pass?

>>167014170
k cool on my way

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any good hunters want to dungeon delve with me in ailing loran?

>>167014170
I remember why I stopped playing that build

the wheel fucking sucks

FYI, if all you want is the saif, you're better off ignoring those hunters. They don't chase you far. Focus on getting to the shortcut first.

>>167014543
Still ringing, btw.

>>167014397
Let me boot up.

>go to help some guy

>die twice like a chump instead


God I forgot how much of a pain in the ass this area is at this level.

>>167012914
What? Do you want people to suck your epeen the way they do Hibiki's?

>>167014889

haha its all good. i might just come back to it after Hemwick and Forbidden Woods

how is the Rifle Spear btw?

>>167014397
>>167014818
password will be blood

>>167010761
Dropped from a HBLB in Ihyll?

>>167015008
No clue, I'm using Ludwig's Wheel. BLT playthrough after Arc though.

>>167015084
SRRC'ing

>>167015113
Yes

>>167014889
You might want to delete your PSN.

>>167015171
Radical
don't think I've seen flat fire drop as a secondary in Ihyll before

>>167015171
zmyp

>>167015008
Some people say the moveset is lacking but it does ok damage if you invest in SKL, I don't know how it does with BLT. I think it's better on PvP against one person and the charged tricked R2 is the best move.

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Having a decent amount of fun with my Cane SKL build so far. With it hit harder though... Any hard-hitting weapons I can get around the Hemwick part of the story?

>>167015548
Rush the DLC for the Saif. You don't have to kill anything.

>>167015548
Your waifu looks like a trap

>>167015498
That's the glyph? Which layer you at?

>>167015638
im in layer 3

>>167012164
just recently did it, beat the core game and dlc. It was fucking painful and made me appreciate my 50 vit 50 str character more. I do not recommend.

How do you guys deal with Chalice Rom? I've beaten it before but now I keep getting hit by those spiders even though I keep moving. I've been ignoring the spiders for now

>>167015791
i delt with him by killing the spiders first

>>167015791
I did earlier by clearing the first wave of spiders before aggroing Rom proper, then focusing solely on her. Using a fast qweapon like Saif helps tremendously.

Rom seems to take more and more damage after each teleportation or something, because the latter half of the fight always seems way shorter than the first.

>>167016047

I thought of doing that too, got to give it a try. The moonlight blade is a bit slow here, last run I used the cleaver

Thanks

Anyone wanna do Rom with me? I'm 71, so I don't *need* help, I just have more fun doing the bosses with other people.

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>>167011724
Ooh! MAJESTIC

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How high should I level end?

>>167017174
Max 15, some say max 20.

>>167017174
Depends on your build.

Str; Str/Arc: 15-20
Skl; Blt: <15

>>167017225
>>167017326
right on, on top of that, is it worth it to go past 50 blt? say, 65-70?

>>167017582
Nope, not worth it. Only recommended to go past 50 if you're an ARC build, as Hunter Tools scale past 50.

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Is the Bowblade a viable ranged option at 10blt? I'm finally getting around to a skill build and I was planning on going 50sk/25blt for the Bowblade with Rakuyo/BoM as backups but everybody makes the Burial Blade and Church Pick sound so fucking great.

I fell in love with the Bowblade on my pure tinge build but I hated having to swap weapons and then trick into bow mode. That plus having to re-trick my Bloodletter every time.

>40 VIT
>15% HP rune
>10% HP rune
>one shot by Laurence
I can't believe that fuck does more than 1676 damage in one attack

>>167017174
I leveled end to 30 for beast cutter. No ragrets.

ratshit bat shit dirty old twat

69 assholes tied in a knot

>>167017676
I wouldn't think the thing's overly "viable" even at 25BLT, much less 10. Can you even use the damn thing with 10?

Having to swap to it and trick it is a complete triviality, especially considering it's great transform attack into bow mode.

>>167017757
>he fell for the 40 Vit meme

>>167017861
I remember when I was 12.

>>167018098
40 vit is for pvp.

>>167018195
Then that's even more hilarious.

>>167018195
50 vit or die like a bitch

I really, really hate getting stunlocked.

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>>167018373

I'm sure you guys get this question every other week, but...

Is the Old Hunters as good as everyone says or is it a meme?

>>167018493
It's amazing. Practically mandatory to the game.

>>167018486
not even close

>>167018493
Better 2bqh.

In all seriousness it's really very good.

AotA had every gushing about Artorias, Sunken, Iron, and Ivory had everyone gushing about the level design, TOH has both; great bosses, great atmosphere and level design.

The worst thing about it is that there isn't more of it.

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Requesting the Spurdo Father Gascoigne image

>>167018493
beat mergo then do dlc. Hard but so rewarding.

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>>167018690

>>167018596
>>167018627
>>167018737
Alright will pick up the DLC. Got the game for $20 back in November and have been loving it

>>167018737
Don't kill Wet Nurse, start DLC at BL 60 with a weapon at +6 and good gems.

>>167018845
Hope you enjoy it as much as me do mane.

>>167019096
>me
we*, but that too.

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>tfw got the Saif in the DLC at Level 38

Whoever suggested I just run through like a bat through hell.., thank you. I hope many waifu handjobs are in your future. Time to fuck up the Witch of Hemwick

>>167013337
A lot of shit in Bloodborne can be left up into interpretation, the whole Paleblood thing being the biggest one. The general timeline of events is like this:

>Byrgenwerth, a place of learning, of indeterminate size, discovers the Pthumerian Labyrinth under the city, and encounter the Eldritch Truth, i.e., the old blood, insight, the Nightmare dimension, great ones, beasts, etc.
>during their early day experimentation, they massacre the Fishing Hamlet and desecrate Kos' corpse, cursing the Hunters, probably creates the rifts that has Laurence break off from Byrgenwerth and start the church, believing blood is the way to evolve mankind
>the Healing Church becomes a major theocratic organization, ruling the city of Yharnam
>at some point, 'Laurence and his associates' beckoned the Moon Presence, a Great One, what they got out of this we don't know, maybe blood, maybe insight, but it destroyed Old Yharnam
>experimenting with blood for possibly several hundred years, so much so that hunters and nights of the hunt become thoroughly normal to the citizens
>the church also has the Choir and School of Mensis as their higher ups, experimenting with even more horrible nonsense
>Mensis are now working on beckoning the moon again, and you turn up and are manipulated into stopping it via the inscrutable motives of the Moon Presence, or end up stopping it by mistake, we don't rightly know

The Moon Presence 99% likely has something to do with the plague, since the moon exacerbates the problem into an apocalypse-tier event. But why? We don't know. Could be simple alien influence being incompatible with us mere humans.

>>167019534
You're welcome anon. As we say in /rlg/, "evoke feet"

>>167019585
>it destroyed Old Yharnam
The Dream already existed before the burning of Old Yharnam, it existed by the early stages of the Church given that Maria was somehow in charge of the Celestial Ayys experiment. Maybe that happened when Mensis beckoned Mergo by the first time and were sucked by the Nightmare. The ritual we see now would be the second attempt.

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>>167019908

???

I just killed Orphan as a cooperator one second after my beckoner died

Does it still count? Did I do the right thing?

>>167021038
It means "run away".

>>167021273
You hunted

>>167021273
I think it counted. I had the same exact thing happen to me, and the host sent me a cute PSN message thanking me afterwards.

>>167018195
I thought 40 vit is for pve, not the other way around.

>>167011870
>>167011918
>>167011951
UPDATE: A chalice merchant that sells lost + uncanny versions of weapons does NOT add them to the Hunter's Dream merchant until you actually buy it in the shop.

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>>167021328

>>167021435
Duh

>>167021387
Prey status: SLAUGHTERED

>>167021518
Well I asked right at the beginning of the thread (>>167011803) and either got an incorrect or ambiguous answer; just thought I'd clarify.

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What now?

>>167020051
Yeah, that should be before the rise of the Church, oops. Old Yharnam falling was earlier days.

However, Maria was an Old Hunter, and they were Byrgenwerth, present at the massacre of the Hamlet. She resides in the Nightmare, looking after the patients.

Mensis are a later splinter group of the Church, they only beckoned Mergo once, and when they did, it resulted in the 'stillbirth of their brains' and became mummies, with Memelord now running around the Nightmare of Mensis running the end of the ritual.

>>167021968
Now you take a screen capture and post again

>>167021968
Now you learn how to update decent screenshots to 4chan and ask coherent, direct questions.

>>167022114
>>167022131
How do I get it over onto my computer without first pushing it onto Twitter?

>>167021968
What? Want us to make your build for you?
Throw everything into BLT now.

Am I underpowed if I am Level 40 going into Forbidden Woods and Cainhurst?

>>167022232
Not at all. Maybe a little under for the DLC, though

>>167022169
I use a USB.

>>167022232
For Woods no that's right on the money. But for Cainhurst probably unless you're gud or have decent gems.

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webm time?
I just love how the fall just finished me off.

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>>167022530

>>167022841
>maria dies
>gehrman has an aneurysm
lore?

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>>167022530

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>>167022957
Fucking kek.

>>167022931
did you play the dlc?

>>167023098
yes genius

Anyone wanna lend a quick hand with Merciless watchers, level 1 lower pthumeru? I've got like 10 minutes.

>>167023065
out fucking skilled
why does that always happen to the one mad one in the building in hemwick though, he always clips into the ceiling

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So close to the promised land...

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>>167022530
A spooky, invisible lad kept putting Amy into a visceral state during this fight.
>>167023065
I've avoided standing on those platforms when there are Goliath Pigs below ever since watching this.

>>167023464
Pass?

Why does the Madaras twin attack you when you crush 5 vermin and get the leader hat from Valtr?

I'm not sure there's anything I hate more than when an enemy you should easily be able to beat physically blocks you into a corner of the fucking geometry and pins you there and kills you.

>>167023786
He's jealous that you get to wear the sweet bucket

>>167023753
I'm 71, pass is bbg.

>>167023661
>tfw I still need to get my radial offshape
>all of the radials I've gotten so far (6 to be exact) have been BLT scaling gems
Just unshackle me

>>167023870
>>167023753
Thank you to blueperson05 and Ray-Ban Vision for helping me bust out that boss in the last 5 minutes I had before I have to go to class.

blueperson, this is the third time you've helped me out in as many days. I'd ask if you ever sleep, but since I've been up to ask every time, glass houses, etc. Thanks man.

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>>167024249
Mother fucker always beats me

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>>167023823

>>167024363
AAAAAAAAAA

>>167024363
>Those FRC rooms with spiders and a Madman guarding a lever/coffin
I want to rip my balls out every time I get this room

>>167024491
Don't forget your complimentary Scourge Beast in most rooms, free with every purchase of an FRC dungeon!

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>>167024491
That one room in Lower Loran Layer 2 can suck my whole ass.

>>167024678
Yes. That was a hell of a room.

The worst part is that it's totally optional and there isn't even any noteworthy treasure in there.

>>167024678
I once got an exact replica of that room, but in an FRC Lower Loran. Worst of all is that it was absolutely mandatory to go through it in order to reach the layer lever.

>>167024678
>those fucking red spiders
Did you know that they will chase you anywhere on the layer, no matter where you are? Even if you stay at spawn they will be drawn to you.

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>>167024306
>blacked out name

>>167025414
I had saved it for another post
Forgot I had it in my reply
Not mine just want to give the other anon some hopeful dreams

>>167025335
It's even more horrifying when Mad Ones are chasing you, especially in blacked-out room where the only source of light is a measly torch and the stupidly hateful red light coming from those creatures

>>167025541
>opening a new FRC chalice and hearing the distant, yet faint ringing of a bell maiden, as well as the quaking groan of Mad Ones being summoned

>>167025541
I've got tens of millions of echoes on my characters, not sure I want to delve into dungeons unless it's being summoned for coop...

>>167025730
If you have that many echoes, you definitely don't need them.

>>167025659
It's happened before. In one Loran dungeon, might have been a base dungeon, spiders would follow you all the way to the boss room, and the post-lever side door had a Scourge Beast guarding the ladder. Any NPC summons there usually died on the way over from the stream of enemies.
>>167025730
If you're not going to use them, might as well get going. Face your fears with the Beast Roar, it will save your life many a time

>>167022169
Send it through PSN to someone, download from the PSN app and post it from your mobile.

Can anyone who isn't a complete retard like the 6 separate players I've had to summon only for them to die instantly help me with Isz Ebrietas? Pass is ayylmao

>>167025843
>>167025846
Those echoes are also the proof of my enemies suffering and defeat, I couldn't bear to part with them.

oh man how hype is that amygdala fight the first time?

cannoned that fool in the head and visceraled for the kill, that was so fun

>>167025987
You might be autistic.

>>167025987
The dungeons can be a casino, you may come out with double your echoes or empty-handed and utterly beaten

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>>167025987
>>167026091

...usually you end up like this though

You're a God anon thank you so much. Now I can embrace my inner Korean for arcane gems

>>167026630
If you're a retard, yes. But, it's not like you can't go back and retrieve your echoes.

>>167026630
Out-fucking-skilled.

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>Why Bloodborne is a shitty game
>https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/5r47cz/unplayable/

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>>167026821
>reddit.com

>>167026821
Can I report this post

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Talk to me about the Reiterpallasch, /bbg/. I have some questions.

>how do you feel about it?

>how well does it work in a pure SKL build?

>is it worth putting Bloodtinge gems into it?

>is it true that bullet damage scales off of SKL?

>What makes it different from the Rifle Spear?

Pardon all my questions, I just got it and it really intrigues me

>>167026821
This is just pathetic, there's no other word for it

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>>167026821
>when even reddit's first reponse is "git gud"

>>167026821
>Having to figure everything out for yourself is fun to some, stupid people, but to anyone with 2 braincells, it's ridiculous.
The amount of autism in this post is unbelievable

>>167026928
I wish I could be as happy as that black guy.
>>167026976
>how do you feel about it?
Pretty good. I use it on my SKL build.
>how well does it work in a pure SKL build?
Works very well. It's not really a BLT weapon, and works best with full investment in SKL.
>is it worth putting Bloodtinge gems into it?
Nope. Keep it to temperings, unless you plan to use only the shots.
>is it true that bullet damage scales off of SKL?
Bullets are pure BLT but are still affected by PHYS UP gems like standard 27.2%s.
>What makes it different from the Rifle Spear?
More fun

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>>167026821
>your casual 12 year old call of duty player taking a go on BB

>>167026821
>Zero story

w e w

l a d

>>167026821
Reminds me of that one autist who shat on Dark Souls years ago because he thought the tutorial was too vague.
Forgot his name, but it was hilarious.

>>167027258
fuck I need his name. I think I remember that guy's videos

>>167026821
>Dying is Compulsory
BAWWWWW ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY
what a cunt. my first run I barely died because I took things slowly. even on bosses, I usually just quickstepped away to get a feel for the attacks. normally I just attack madly but not with BB

>>167026821
wtf i hate bloodborne now

>>167027458
not related but this guy is a faggot
https://vimeo.com/46850669

>>167026976
-Shit's fast. Crazy fast.
-Transformed version is just continuous back and forth horizontal swipes. Very easy to stunlock most enemies and if you have reasonable endurance you can kill most isolated enemies very easily.
-Bloodtinge gems are not worth it since physical atk includes blood attack as well.
-I don't know if bullet damage scales off of SKL but the bloodtinge scaling is better than every gun save Evelyn so it does comparable damage.
-It's shorter range but faster than the rifle spear.

I used it as my main weapon but I was doing skl/blt as a build from the start.

>>167027258
>>167027458
That just sounds like all of DSP's videos.

If I go all in to the Kos Parasite for NG+, is it viable?

>>167027845
It was very similar, right down to the nasally voice. The guy was just throwing a massive shitfit over how the gave never properly told him how to equip a weapon or whatever

>>167026821
>inb4 this dude shitposted it himself

>>167026821
>Having to figure everything out for yourself is fun to some, stupid people, but to anyone with 2 braincells, it's ridiculous
I think maybe he's just trolling and speaking in opposites.

>>167027935
Did he have a Jersey accent? I think I might know the video

>>167027870
Everything is viable, except Fist of Gratia.

>>167028076
I think so, but it has been months since I've seen it

>>167026821
>call him autistic
>get upvoted
lad

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>>167026821
>mercilessly unfair

>>167028146
And it was for DaS? Let me see if I can find the one I'm thinking of.

>>167027935
Oh, I've seem this on /wsg/ before. The frame rate spergs out when he moves, right?

>>167028216
>>167028320
Yes, and I think yes to the second one as well

>>167027645
The bloodtinge scaling is actually shit, same as Cannon's and Gat's. It's just the fact that you could increase the bullet damage with 3 gems and has decent base damage is what makes it better than most guns without BMA.

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>tfw Lady Maria will never remove her old-fashioned Victorian trousers and release a devastating, diarhea-tinger BRAP from her pale skinny ass on your face while you are strapped down naked to a wooden table

Do you think Analise ever knew Maria? Or did she just keep to herself?

>>167028957
good

Out of all the bosses I always seem to have trouble with BSB for some fucked reason. Ring outside his area if anyone wants to jump in.

>>167028957
>Victorian

If you're going to make some kind of complex retard shitpost, at least get the era right, she's wearing Georgian-influenced clothing.

>>167030000
Its the poison and his grab attack. Everything else is fine but those 2 can 1 shot you.

>>167030380
This is why I always carry the White Church set with me

>>167030380
Yep, it's always the bloody poison. Someone jumped in and killed the shit, I died right at the end but still counted thankfully. I have less trouble with Orphan.

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>tfw you are the only person in /bbg/ who appreciates the Saif

Seriously, this thing is bonkers. If you havent tried it, give it a shot. Im fucking serious.

>>167030593
We all know it's broken, that's why we hate it faggot.

>>167030557
>Hibiki cucks me even without passwords and before I reply
How can we even compete?

>>167030593
Are you new?

>>167030557
While Orphan of Kos is difficult, his difficulty is justified. BSB would be easy if it weren't the poison.
At least the area leading up to it is fine, unlike Amygdala.

>>167030593
We have, and we know how busted it is
>>167030667
I'm fairly certain he's been granted enough eyes to efforlessly cuck even the hardiest of hunters out of cooperation

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>>167022530

Im not feeling Undead Giant, please lend a hand
Ringing with pass as 'undead' at Lower Pthumeru layer 2

>>167030593
>being this new and not knowing about pocket Saifs

>>167030593
Everyon in our FCs has at least one Saif

>>167030969
>those A Call Beyonds
Thank you so much, based anon

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>>167022684
What the fuck

>>167027258
>>167027845
>>167027935
I think you mean THIS GUY *dramatic unveil*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfpAYRf8aPs

>>167031581
Holy fuck, that's the one. I love you, man <3

Just did created my first crf chalice and did it, it wasn´t as difficult as i thought it would be and i got a max tier rune and a blood rock from a chest, but those fucking witches, fuck that and that stupid AoE.

>>167031723
Keep making dungeons, eventually you'll find one that really fucks you up.

>>167031581
This is the best thing I've seen all day, thank you so much

>>167030667
Is this Hibiki blueperson05?

>>167022684
Is that falling off a ladder animation?

>>167032271
Yes

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So wait... as a pure SKLfag I SHOULD be putting Phy Atk+ Gems into my Reiterpallasch to improve bullet damage? What the fuck is the point of Bloodtinge gems then?

>>167031581
This is some next level retardation, we've actually managed to find the guy who's shittier than DSP

>>167032551
For Blt builds with Chikage, Bloodletter and Bowblade dummy.

>>167032551
>as a pure SKLfag I SHOULD be putting Phy Atk+ Gems into my Reiterpallasch to improve bullet damage?
Bloodtinge gems work best, but they affect bullets and bullets alone for the Reiter. It's better for you as a SKL build to use tempering gems, as you'll actually be able to pull some use from the non-bullet attacks, as well as benefit the bullet attacks anyways.
>What the fuck is the point of Bloodtinge gems then?
For pure BLT weapons like tricked Chikage, Bloodletter, and Bowblade.

>>167031581
I saw the original so long ago. Maybe it's gone now, but this'll do.

>>167031581
And here without the edit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl8OjoOT8Tg

>>167033096
Man...

This makes me really want to play Dark Souls.

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>tfw no way to make a 2B hunter
>tfw only one on 4chan more excited for Nier than Gaijin weeb samurai killer

>>167033395
Imagine him trying to fight the Four Kings, never realizing he needs the Covenant of Artorias to survive the Abyss. Or even better, the invisible walkways before the Seath fight

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>bloodtinge increases damage of guns
>can't ever use guns because every bloodtinge melee weapon uses both hands

fucking genius

>>167032271
Hibiki is his character name, blueperson is his PS account name.

>>167033757
I'm sad but also glad BB doesn't have any slutwear.

Automata looks pretty cool but not really my cup of tea.

>>167033836
With such a profound lack of personal insight and ingenuity I can't believe he even managed to get the damn game working and his voice recording software and shit set up.

It's just beyond me, man. Empty space for an empty hand, and Enter is right there on the screen.

I just don't know, man.

>>167033836
He couldn't get that far, I honestly couldn't see him getting to Anor Londo, let alone past Ornstein and Smough.

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decide to buy three months of PS plus before I lose my nerve. short five dollars, why do I have to eat regularly.

>>167034059
That's a little generous, I couldn't see him getting past Sen's Fortress. Assuming he didn't get lost in Darkroot Garden, of course

>>167034190
You don't

>>167033972
Untrick your Chicago when you're gonna shoot. Untrick to trick attack on an enemy with the Bloodletter so you don't lose any HP.

>>167034205
True, I forgot about those pendulums.

Honestly, he could get past the bosses with a trainer since he's so shameless he uses one for the fucking tutorial boss, but the man completely lacks any basic problem solving skills, any kind of puzzle would absolutely end him.

>>167034205
He didn't get past the Gargoyles. I can barely recall him standing there in the hallway leading to Andrei bickering with commentors before finally turning the game off.

Unless I'm confabulating. I may be. Been a few years.

I feel like I remember him having a facecam and everything.

>>167033972
>parry with rider
>bone marrow ash double damage gunshot
boom roasted

Alright bbg, here's a thing.

There's this huge emphasis on minmax, getting your build low enough with BL while getting the most out of a stat, etc. But what about true jack of all trade builds while maintaining a level that isn't hilariously overleveled for normal content?

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/21956

This is my attempt, though I'm definitely going to continue changing it for a more stable final version.

In order of importance: vitality -> str/skil/arc -> bt -> end

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>>167034871
>inb4 lucy posts his shitty build and takes off the trip to suck on his own dick

>>167034871
>Not a single damage skill in 50
Also, why the fuck do you feel the need to explain min-maxing to us? The vast majority of everyone here has been playing this game for 2 years straight and have played most the other fromsoft games, we know what min-maxing is.

>>167035061
Ready to discard without a look. Don't worry.

>>167034871
The only weapons worth using with that build is Flat Wheel, and HMS. Even then the HMS will still be pretty shit. Would not recommend.

>>167035115
Getting this triggered over one thing in a post. Do you have issues of insecurity or something?

Also yes, that's the point of a jack of all trades build. Look the definition up.

>>167034871
>true jack of all trade builds
Because of how important scaling is to damage, it's basically impossible. What you'd wind up with a build that couldn't do anything well, and would still be too squishy for your lack-luster damage to be worth it.

While you can use elemental conversion to marry Str and Skl, you're never going to get functional, viable Arc and Blt on the same build without being grotesquely overlevelled or a glass cannon.

>>167035218
I'd probably sacrifice BT (because shitty/boring/edgy weapons) and give the rest a boost. I might go to 100+ but nothing over 140+ because what's the point.

>>167035276
That's not a jack of all trades, that's a shit in all categories.
50/25 str/skl is a good jack build since you can use almost every weapon in the game with plenty of damage if you just farm up some heavy abyssal's.

>>167035389
Just go 50/25 Str/Skl and use whatever is usable with Heavy Abyssals. Chikage, Bloodletter and Kos Parasite would really be the only weapons you can't use effectively. Untricked Letter should be usable but that's points into Blt for a weapon with a shitty moveset.

>>167035427
The problem for me is I'd like to use some hunter tools including the damage ones to some degree of success. Primarily arcane would work but some weapons just lose too much just to be able to be used (church pick losing thrust, etc).

I need to establish a good level range first... 90~ definitely isn't workable but 140 seems too high.

>>167035663
You could use untricked chikage too with a heavy abyssal, but the untricked mode is also shit. Basically Kos Parasite is the only thing off the table and you would do absolute shit damage with only 25 arc anyway.

>>167035762
Church Pick is great for Arc, Cold Abyssals make any converted weapon good. Even if you lose the Thrust you'll still have it's bonuses and moveset, Thrust is only useful for Phys builds.

>>167035762
Change to mil vet, bump str up to 50 for dem heavy abyssal's, bring bt to 16 so you can wield the weapons (either go to 50bt or just go to lowest required bt, anything inbetween is pointless), bump vit up to 44. Total level will be in the 120 meta

It's not perfect but it's better than whatever the fuck you were doing.

>>167035948
what did he mean by this

>>167035947
You make a good point, yeah. I suppose I'll just keep up with an arcane character and farm all those gems instead.

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>>167036124
You can do it, anon.

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>>167035948
Church Hunter
>A noble, well intentioned soul
>Excellent, ancient pedigree of scholars and warriors
>Deadly fighter, brilliant inventor, but knows to listen to the advice of others
>Family values, a hero to the people
>Beautiful and fit, a knight in shining armor
>Afford the finest lifestyle the healing church has to offer
>Duty comes before all else
>Well intentioned, but innocent blood will always weigh on her
>Her sanity will gradually deteriorate from the guilt and mob hunts
>The sheer stress of it all will make her snap at you, but she always apologizes
>One day she will fall from grace, and the church will expunge all evidence, maybe including you

Harrowed Hunter
>Pretty chill
>Expert fighter, can toss you to the ground before you realize what’s happening
>Very filthy, smells
>Extremely curious and nosey, wants to know how everything works
>Very touchy and hands on
>Other people make fun of the two of you
>Really fun to just shoot the shit with, can lose hours just chatting
>Has to cancel evening with you if something comes or she gets called in
>One day you’ll find her on her usual corner, maimed and bleeding to death. She’ll die looking at you

Executioner
>Religious, family values
>Excellent fashion sense
>Bold, hot blooded, and courageous
>Despises filth and degeneracy, strives for excellence in all things
>Maybe a bit insane
>Eternally loyal and will grind anyone who touches you into pulp
>Stronk
>Duty bound, works both mind and body to a razor point
>She does nothing in half measures, hates with unparalleled fury, but loves with boundless passion
>Intolerant zealot, will always look down on you if you can’t meet her standards
>You’ll always be found lacking just a bit
>She’ll fall in battle as she always wanted, but no songs will be sung of her

>>167035948
Not that that guy, but do starting classes really matter at all in this game?

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>>167036412
Vileblood
>Blood bluer than the sky, extremely old money
>Trained from the cradle as a master “knight”
>Refined, elegant, strictly proper
>Edge lord, writes angsty poems about her childhood, adores her katana
>Thinks her shit doesn’t stink
>Hedonism and narcissism would shame Caligula
>She can show you endless pleasure
>Receive anything money can buy to keep you complacent and comfortable
>Baby crazy
>Other girls who talk to you have a habit of committing suicide by cutting their own throats
>“Just let me taste some of your blood, just a lick.”
>Will be purged

League Confederate
>Fairly off kilter, or completely mad, depending on your opinion
>Favorite meal is the raw flesh of her slain foes
>Duty and honor come before all else
>Neat freak, your home will never have been cleaner
>She can take the spider in the bathtub out for you
>“The bucket stays on.”
>Missing an eye, insecure about it
>No matter what you say or do, the day she fails in her duties she’ll disappear to die alone
Hunter of Hunters
>It’s fucking Eileen.
>Gilf.

Powder Keg
>Rude, blunt, disrespectful, heretical tomboy
>Pretty fit from lugging around her arsenal
>Loves animals
>Obsessed with big weapons and explosions
>Inventive only insofar as to make more complex guns
>Sex is buck wild or nothing at all
>Loves getting drunk with you
>More enemies than friends
>Beneath the crassness she has a big, soft heart
>Will likely be torn apart by traditionalists or a beast she tries to hug

>>167036615
Oops, meant to quote:>>167036072

>>167036615
>do starting classes really matter at all in this game?
For min-maxing purposes, absolutely.

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>>167036634
Byrgenwerth
>Student at likely the most prestigious and exclusive school to exist
>A dry, cynical sort of humor, likes joking about her professors to you
>Always has to keep up with her studies
>Can drink more than you
>Always tired, speaks with a calm, quiet pace
>Adventurous and curious about how the universe works, likes going on expeditions in the labyrinths
>Surprisingly flexible
>Her studies go sailing over your head
>Ambitious and eager to elevate humanity, wants to be with you through it
>Her ambition will eventually render her a mindless, mewling vegetable

Choir
> The doctor is in
>Knows all there is to know about the human form
>Forward thinking, ambitious, thoughtful and brilliant
>Loves to discuss philosophy with you
>Involved in a weird cult
>Pretty chill about crimes against humanity
>A life of luxury among the church’s elite
>Not much of a motherly instinct
>Arrogant, obsessed with her work
>Always suggests “improvements” to your body, might try without your consent
>Doesn’t like you seeing her eyes
>Destined to turn into a gibbering lunatic for her hubris, possibly taking you with her

Mensis School
>She fell for you the complete madwoman
>Teasing, dry sense of humor and an infectious laugh
>Droopy eyes and a cheeky smile
>Were-spider
>Despite her drab, gloomy appearance she’s pretty friendly
>Can talk with you for hours about anything
>Goes off on long, eclectic tangents about stuff that only makes sense to her
>Despite her self-evident insanity she’s shocking smart and insightful
>Study room is filthy, spends hours cooped up in there reading forbidden lore
>If you drag her out she’ll curl up next to you and continue reading
>Suspiciously smells like copper
>Happy to share godhood with you when the fateful day come
>If you tell her not to do something she’ll do it
>Likes wearing a bird cage because it helps her talk to God
>Keeps a dream journal
>Doesn’t like being woken up
>AWOOOO

>>167035948
>>167036412
>>167036634
>>167036892

no one cares, loser faggot. take this shit to /fanfic/

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>>167036892
Yahar’gul Hunter
>Surprisingly strong for her height
>She teases by holding you down and daring you to fight her off
>Quiet and solemn, dark and gloomy fashion sense
>pretty cute if you get her to take off her helmet
>Dangerously competent in her job
>Has a habit of sneaking up on you
>Sometimes you find people tied up in the basement
>They’re not there for long, though
>A nice, quiet hideaway home just with her.
>Likes tying you up.
>Why does she know so much about surgery?
>If she doesn’t retire, she’ll end up getting butchered by leg wolves
Blood-drunk Hunter
>Beneath the grime, sweat, and madness in her eyes, she’s still quite beautiful
>Glow in the dark eyes
>VERY strong
>Old fashioned
>Likes playing rough
>Likes fucking rough, but gets a visceral amusement if you manage to dominate
>Try not to bleed though
>Will quite literally liquefy anyone who touches you
>This includes other girls
>Constantly a hairpin away from a seething berserker frenzy
>Shouts a lot
>Very superstitious
>Smells like sweat and blood
>Will never leave the hunt, no matter the damage she sustains, even if it means you
>When you die she’ll still hunt, but you’ll live on as a distant, warm feeling in the back of her mind as she cleaves beasts in twain.
Pthumerian
>Spent her entire life in subterranean ruins, eager to learn about the surface through you
>Pale and unnaturally thin
>Former royalty and still possesses the finesse
>Baffled surface dwellers don’t have a caste system
>Capable of bullshit that blatantly breaks physics
>Much deadlier than she appears
>Weird, terrifying blood religion that requires sacrifice
>Religion may or may not drive you insane
>Has likely forgotten more than you will ever know
>Ancient alzheimer’s
>Being together feels ethereal, like it’s all just a dream
>Her native language makes your head hurt
>One day she’ll disappear and there’ll be no evidence she was every there

>>167037203
Just report and move on. I promise you the worst thing you can do to this people is ignore ther posts. The'll move on when they realize all their autism didn't even get them a single (you).

>>167036615
For casual use no, for min-maxing it could be the difference between having 45 in your vit or main damage stat or having a full 50

>>167037287
>former royalty
You're this autistic and yet you don't even know basic Pthumerian lore? The Pthumerians didn't have a leader, until they decided to enthrone Queen Yharnam. She was the extent of their royalty.

>>167037357
This, the only reason people do this shit is for (you)'s

>>167037432
Was she named after the city, or the city named after her?

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>>167037663
The city was named after her due to Yharnam being cobstructed on top of the underground Pthumeru catacombs. Both Pthumeru and Loran chalices were constructed before Byrgenwerth was even a thing.

>>167038063
So was Yharnam the mother of Mergo? Do we KILL the infant mergo? Or is it a ghost baby?

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help I can't stop thinking about my gorgeous beautiful and perfect bloodborne waifu

>>167038190
Who knows? Some people think Mergo dies when it stops crying after you kill Wet Nurse and Yharnam fucks off, other say you're liberating Mergo and Yharnam is actually bowing, and you can find both Mergo and Yharnam alive down in the dungeons even if you "kill" both in the nightmare.

>>167038658
holy fuck smashing beasts with this thing

Honestly gives me an erection

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Can someone redpill me on Loran not being underground?

>>167038839
>he thinks the chalices are representative of reality

m8
MATE
M A T E

>>167038915
>my shitty photoshop that i mad eon my phone iver a year ago still gets posted to this day

Cheers

>>167038735
This was supposed to be a church pick skill playthrough, and the cutter was supposed to carry me until I got the pick, but I can't bear to give it up. Even for the Church Pick, which is incredible.

>>167038696
Wait, isn't the whole nightmare and scourge caused by the School of Mensis and the Church inducing the birth of Mergo, hoping to create a Great One to trigger their ascension?

>>167038190
There is some weird time fuckery going on with the chalice dungeons. The nearest I can tell is that the story chalices you explore are a replaying of events that previously occurred in them. That's why Ebrietas, Rom, and company are alive in them even though you have to kill Ebrietas specifically to get the chalice she is inside of. The Yharnam that you fight in Pthumeru Iyhll is at the time heavily pregnant with Mergo, so when you kill her there, yes you probably also killed Mergo's physical form. However, like the Orphan, Mergo's consciousness lived on in a Nightmare, which became its cradle, while Yharnam's followed after it because it's stuck in a horrific stillborn state where it is semi-immortal, but cannot grow out of being a baby and she still cares about her child or some shit.

>>167036634
>Hunter of Hunters
>It’s fucking Eileen.
>Gilf.

KEKD

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>>167038956
>chalices are in the dream world meme
>yet somehow Byrgenwerth found a way inside of them way before the dream fuckery started
>the pthumerum chalices themselves are stated to be directly below Yharnam

wew, lmao™!, and so forth

>>167039202
You can use both with a 50/25 Str/Skl build effectively ya know?

>>167039368
NIGHTMARES ARE STACKED NERD

YOU FIND CHALICE RITAL SHIT AT BYRGENWYRTH

I HAVE DROPPED MY PANTS
SUCK MY DICK LORAN FAG BEAST

>>167039409
>had already gone to 30 skill

rip

GUESS I'M GOING 50/50

>>167039476
50/30 is good too I suppose, at least it's not 40/40.

Despite it being one of the choice weapons of shitters, can I use the LHB in good conscience if I'm not planning on doing PvP, just co-op? The only reason I want it is for a Scholar build, something along the lines of Edgar or Damian. If there's something better that would suit it, if there's a way to turn a Church Pick to this kind of build, I'd gladly take it. Probably minimum stat requirements to use weapons, take the Vit and End as needed, and dump the rest into Arc, if that would work

>>167035948
>>167036412
>>167036634
>>167037287
Mensis girl a best

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>>167039202
>Wait, isn't the whole nightmare and scourge caused by the School of Mensis and the Church inducing the birth of Mergo, hoping to create a Great One to trigger their ascension?

Nah, the whole nightmare deal first started when the curse of Kos was laid upon Yharnam (the city) and its hunters.

The whole scourge deal has been going on since Loran (before Byrgenwerth and posibbly Pthumeru existed). It's just the human body reaction when one has consumed Old Blood and the red moon comes down so Moon Prescence is partially to be blamed for that. That last part is kind of my headcannon/speculation, as people transform into beastts even when there is no red moon, but one of the lore notes suggests is the red Moon that turns people into beasts

>>167039202
Basically, the whole plot is divided into three different things. The blood moon/nightmare ritual that Mensis is doing isn't actually related to the Scourge of Beasts, it's the School's own attempt to ascend. Meanwhile, the Choir is also trying to preform the whole ascension thing through different means by turning people into Celestial Emissaries. The Scourge of Beasts itself is a side effect of the distribution of Old Blood by the Healing Church as a whole to be used as a method of healing, which could have come from a number of different sources, the primary suspects being either Queen Yharnam herself, Ebrietas, or other old pthumerian shit Laurence found in the chalice dungeons.

>>167039703
You can use whatever the fuck you want, man, enjoying the weapon you're using is a major part of enjoying the run you're in. Don't feel ashamed for what weapons you picked.

>>167039703
Go for it, Arc Pick is good too.

>>167039765
>>167039764
So there are 3 separate apocalypses, all going down at once? God damn

Actually, we call it an apocalypse, but do we know if any of this extends beyond Yharnam to the outside lands?

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>>167039458
Yeah, but you do realize Yharnam is the real world, right? Not a dream area, right? Or are you a beastly idiot who thinks the whole game was a dream?

>>167039896
Minimum requirements for the Pick, any specific form or gems?

>>167039953
Fire or Bolt, Lost. You can go Arc too, Normal version. 2 Cold Abyssals, a Fire/Bolt Waning Abyssal or 27.2% Triangle.

>>167040079
I'll take the normal and go gem hunting, I have a Tomb Prospector working on that. Take the regular LHB?

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>>167040027
dont cry for me, im already memed

>>167040027
Can you please shut up and fuck off? I thought you said you were gonna stop shitting up the threads and went on a three post rant about how you were such a Martyr for stoping to shitpost.

>>167039952
The game takes place in the closest plane of reality as we understand it.

But yharnam is falling under the moon presences control.

Really pay attention to yharnam itself, its layout is nonsensical and many things are random and haphazard. (graveyards in front of homes?, crows that bark like dogs?, the more you pay attention to shit like this the more you notice)

"Dreams" are just how they are described. Nightmares are not nightmares, and the hunters dream is not a dream. All are planes of existence that exist equally.

Yharnam is likely the "real" world, but as the MP's presence grows it becomes more and more nightmarish, yahargul in front of the one reborn is reminiscint of this.

>>167040262
but fuckboy, that was the meme

>>167040168
Nah, Lost is always for Fire/Bolt and Radial, Radial, Triangle is for Arc, which the Uncanny version of LHB has.

>>167040387
Use the regular LHB until I get the Uncanny, then

>>167039927
Well, the constables chased a beast back to Yharnam, so presumably there is the occasional beast escaping the city limits and going on a rampage through the surrounding countryside, but since Yharnam is so remote and isolationist, actual encounters with them are probably quite low. As well, since the Scourge of Beasts is being directly caused by blood ministration, which only certain people in Yharnam know how to do, it's most likely a problem localized solely to the city and it's outskirts.

As for the Mensis ritual, you're welcome to think that the entire world went mad when the blood moon descended, but since that seems kind of stupid, I will go with the assumption that those shenanigans also were localized to Yharnam, with maybe far away nations seeing the blood moon appear in sky but not being affected by it at all

>>167040274
>>167040274
Not him, but you're dumb. All the grave shit is From overdoing their spooky factor and the crowds are just a result of the scourge, just as the giant humans.

Yes, dreams are real places. But they're all in their own different dimension, and yharnam is over on Earth on the real world. They're not overlapping each other, this is not Silent Hill.

>>167040571
>these intentional things put in don't matter

k

What's the best way to get more ritual materials for FRC in offline mode? Just farm depth 1 pthumeru for insight? I'm already saveshitting.

>>167040262
>replying to a tripfag
>ever
but honestly i actually forgot about that

>>167040274
>Really pay attention to yharnam itself, its layout is nonsensical and many things are random and haphazard. (graveyards in front of homes?, crows that bark like dogs?, the more you pay attention to shit like this the more you notice)

That's just regular Souls games world creation. You don't expect a videogame level design to be logical as living place for people.

Next you're gonna tell me Dark Souls 2's world is so incoherent because the Bearer of the Curse is forgetting the world's geography due to the undead curse.

>>167040759
All they had to do was have the elevator to Iron Keep to go down instead of up

>>167040759
The only reason I say this for bloodborne is because of the attention to detail. Obviously ds2 does not get the same respect.


Or are you going to tell me yaraghul was actually built with people into the walls?

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>>167040638
>these intentional things must mean one thing only and they mean what fits my headcannon

Ok, bucko, and Dark Souls and Bloodborne exist in the same universe because of patches.

>>167040519
>random ass group of old-timey constables chase a fucking werewolf back to fuckville

>most of them get eaten

>last one turns the tables and eats the werewolf

Fucking based.

>>167040638
I've always felt that lore-fags are a little too quick to give lore credit to quirks of the game that might just be the result of developmental foibles. Maybe not everything in the chalices should be taken literally as lore-consistent truth.

>>167040940
>Fucking based.
And that's why he gets to wear the Bucket

Are there any benefits to insight except from being used as currency? Recently finished my first playthrough and I sucked up all the insight I could just because, only things it seemed to change were me being able to see the spoopy cthulu things hanging off of buildings and making me get raped by frenzy.

>>167040902
>This blatant copypasting
They really didn't care about Dark Souls 3, did they?

>>167040902
Miyazaki himself said he just puts patches into all his games so no.

Dark souls 3 lore is retarded so I dont know what you want man.

>i'm just going to ignore certain things because It doesnt fit with my headcanon

Nice me.me

>>167040743
>tfw "cant delete post this often"

>>167041004
No, just currency and spooky stuff.

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>>167040824
>Or are you going to tell me yaraghul was actually built with people into the walls?

Ok, you lost me here. You clearly haven't looked that deep into the game's lore if you don't understand why they're there.

They're bot statues, they were real people who got mummified after the red moon/mensis ritual/whatever created the one reborn moved into motion. Those who didn't get plastered into the walls where sucked in to create the One Reborn, that's why they look like there trying to climb on top of each other to get away from whatever was mummifying them

>>167041036
Miyazaki hasn't given a fuck about Dark Souls since the first game.
This is what happens when contractual obligations and directors that don't care are a thing.

>>167040985
OH FUCK

*VALTR* IS THE FUCKING CONSTABLE FROM THE STORY

HOW DID I NOT GET THIS BEFORE

>>167036412
is there a version of this without chicken chan

>>167041184
>boo these mean companies expect you to do your job because they gave you money :(

Fuck off with this shit, if you sign a contract don't bitch about having to fulfill it.

>>167041206
Did you not crush enough vermin to get him to change forms you beastly idiot?

>>167041206
He's summoned as Valtr, the Beast Eater, after bequeathing the Bucket. He also gives us the Impurity rune, which was said to be discovered within the Beast-Eater.

>>167041206
cmon anon, you are better than this

>>167041318
I haven't checked back in a while.

>>167041293
But From did fulfill. Doesn't mean they have to care about their product once the publisher decides they want more meme games when people would probably eat up anything From did after Dark Souls. And they have thus far. Look what thread we're in.

>constable uniform
>top hat
>beast cutter
>MUTTON CHOPS

Truly the best and most dapper getup.

>>167041552
But Dark Souls 3 was great.

Is the Burial Blade only viable with Lost/Uncanny variations? I wanna use that sick weapon but... man I hate Chalice Dungeons.

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>>167041674

>>167041750
Uncanny is the best, but if you don't want to bother with gem slots you can farm gems from Winter Lanterns.

>>167041608
>implying a true constable would not choose to combat defiled scum with good old-fashioned fisticuffs

>>167041790
Don't respond to me using a great comic to illustrate your shit opinions, you muckraking peasant.

So I'm trying to rush to the parasite and my runes are shit can I get some help for the living failures? I really need to stop skipping shit.

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>you will never get to purge more vilebloods in a story setting

>>167041750
Only Uncanny for Radials and a Triangle 27.2% Phys gems. There's no Watchers in Loran so no easy way to get 27.2% Wanings without it being OoS.

>>167041969
Can't help ya but post a pass so someone can, also where ya ringing.

>>167041674
Yeah, it's good. But if you told me their heart wasn't really in it, I would believe you.

Anyone wanna bet on how long it'll be until they rerelease an HD remaster of DS1 for the PS4?

I'll buy it again, dammit

>>167042139
I need to farm some vials first but probably after the elevator. Fuck I miss my skill build each parry was a kill.

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From the description of the Gatling Gun, Djura had three companions. One was in Old Yharnam with him, and the other had the Gatling Gun in the Hunter's Nightmare. Where was the third?
He could have left Old Yharnam, died there (his body is the one where we get the Charred Hunter set), turned into a beast, or gotten somewhere else.
The Old Yharnam trip starts the Chalice line, eventually leading us to Loran. In Loran, there's a unique enemy hunter in the Charred Hunter set with the Beast Claw. He's later summoned as Beastclaw Jozef, wearing exactly the same garb as the other two confirmed to be Djura's companions, the Charred Hunter with the Black Hood. Could he have been the third and gotten into the dungeons through the Chalice of Pthumeru? Or should this go down as the newest headcanon installment?

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What would benefit the stake driver's tricked charged r2 more, a 35% charge atk up gem, or a 32% blunt atk up gem? I'm asking cuz I got a 35% charge atk up gem and I could farm them way easier than blunt abyssals, but don't know if it would benefit the charge attack as much due to driver's weird charged attack multiplier.

Only planning on abusing the charge attacks so don't care if the rest of the moveset is weak, and not on an arcane build btw.