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Warship bullying edition.

*****NEW TO THE GAME?*****
Tell us your server and get a referral code from a fellow /wowsg/ to get extra bonus credits/flags/XP and two free premium ships (one instantly, one after you research a T6 ship).

>Newb guide
http://pastebin.com/XGWdGjPc

>0.6.0.1 LIVE
https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/updates/patch-notes-0601/

>0.6.1 PT + Ranked Soon, Tier 7 and Epicenter ONLY
https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/pt061/

>Plans for 2017
https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/whatsinthebox/

>USS Black(ed) stats
https://thedailybounce.net/2017/01/24/world-of-warships-black-666-tier-ix-american-destroyer-updated-stats/

>NA January Event Calendar + Ship Class specific boosts
https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/failed-resolutions/

>Captain Skill caculator
http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc

>Leaked info from Russian Server
https://thedailybounce.net/2016/12/20/world-of-warships-some-information-from-russian-server-7/

>Statistic tracker
http://warships.today
http://wows-numbers.com/
http://www.wowstats.org/
http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/index.html

>In-game chat channel:
NA Channel: Search for '/vg/' channel by Antibully_ranger
EU Channel: "Official /vg/ channel"
SEA Channel: /vg/

>Clans
[BOTES] on NA Contact Precisionista FULL
[BOTES] on SEA Contact Benlisquare
[HOTEL] on EU Contact Rex1121 FULL

Previous thread
>>166973129
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First for 155 Mogami best Mogami
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>French BB line still not announced
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>Fixed incorrect smokes setting: Now, the last smoke cloud is deployed at the end of smoke generator work cycle. That will prevent some inconvenient game scenarios, especially with RN cruisers that have short smoke deploying timer.
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The latest SEA server clan list has just been released. I've provided an English translation below.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sDr3Wz-u06M06gXrTTVJONd3nrOIrRJ8VziKVNB9AjM/edit#gid=0

>BOTES
>公會總勝率 55.88% 公會總場均 44406 場均經驗 1175 人數 21 R1玩家 0
Total clan winrate 55.88%, total clan average damage 44,406, average experience 1,175, 21 players, zero rank 1 players
>東南亞二線公會 由benlisquare帶領的公會
Southeast Asian second-rate clan, the leader is benlisquare
>這個公會的目標是讓亞服再次偉大(詳情請看他們的公會介紹)
According to the clan description, the goal of this clan is to "Make Asia Great Again"
>總體來說 這個公會的數據是普通水平
Overall, the stats of this clan are pretty ordinary
>玩家水平挺平均的 而中上玩家的數據也是不錯
Average player skill across the board, but the better players in it are pretty good
>綜合現有數據我認為無須優先集火
Based on the available data, I do not believe that there is any need to prioritise focus fire against these players
>又是一堆ST 東南亞公會一堆ST 全是ST
A bunch of supertesters. A Southeast Asian clan with a heap of supertesters. So many supertesters.
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>>167072358
>According to the clan description, the goal of this clan is to "Make Asia Great Again"
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>>167072358
kek
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>>167072358
>second-rate
>pretty ordinary
>average player skill
>So many supertesters.
Pottery.

Stop ruining our good name on SEA, faggots.
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>>167072557
But if these average SEA players started playing on NA, they would be super unicum players on NA.
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>>167072358
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>>167072631
Fuck off, Lunatic. The "SEA modifier" does not exist.
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>>167072358
>aim POI because they do a lot of full div sealclubbing

>>167072557
That supertester thing wasn't really in the google doc.
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Shipfus are great
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>>167072670
They really are.
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>>167072557
Original translator here. I decided to literally translate 二線公會 as "second-rate clan", but there's actually more context to it.

Within the Taiwanese WoWS community, "first line", "second line" and "third line" clans have specific definitions. What they call a first line clan is what we would call a unicum clan, a second line clan is an above average clan, and a third line clan is a below average clan.

>>167072658
>That supertester thing wasn't really in the google doc.
It is, you're just not observant enough. Mouse-over the white cells that appear empty, there are hidden lines written in white text for all clans that contain supertesters, including POI and BLUMR.
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>>167072670
This desu.
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>>167072658
Mouse-over, the author of the spreadsheet really loves to put easter eggs all over the place.
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>>167072808
Translate the entire spreadsheet, benis)))))))))))
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>>167072808
>BLUMR
People actually remember Haifuri enough to make a clan name out of it?
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>>167072657
If you're so sure that you're actually good and that there is no such thing as a SEA skill disparity, then why don't you prove everyone wrong and play a re-roll on SEA server? What is there to be afraid of?
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>>167072808
>>167072912
>tfw there will never be some weirdly in-depth breakdown of NA BOTES
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>>167072997
>Translate the entire spreadsheet
No need to, the original author (player light_carrier_ryujo on SEA server) says he will write an English version himself, soon.

>>167072808
Fuck, I meant "highlight", not "mouse-over". I need to go to bed.
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Nagato a qt
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>>167072358
復興亞服!!!
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>>167073014
We're not autistic like you. People have work and families to provide.
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>Benlis in depth face to face interview soon™


>>167073465
t. NA easy mode playert
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>>167072997
>STEIN
>公會總勝率 55.89% 公會總均傷 44427 場均經驗 1121 人數 29 R1玩家 1
Overall WR: 55.89%, Avg Damage 44427, avg XP 1121, 29 players, one rank 1 player
>東南亞準一線公會 由Stein_Grenadier帶領的公會
A edging to unicum clan from Southeast Asia. The clan is led by Stein_Grenadier.
>他們也有一個別稱 叫Discord Power(他們在某Discord群十分活躍 並似乎以那裡為基地)
They are known by the alias "Discord power" (they're extremely active in a certain Discord server and is seemingly based there)
>這個公會的實力比POI鶸 然而還是東南亞地區的強勢公會
This clan is slightly weaker than POI, but is still a formidable clan in the South East Asia region.
>這個公會有2個玩家需要注意 stratmania TE_DeathSkyz 這兩個都是巨佬等級的玩家
This clan has two players who deserve attention: Stratmania and TE_DeathSkyz. These two are unicum tier players
>前者更是為數不多的最頂級CV玩家
Not to mention, the former (strat) is one of those rare SUPERUNICUM CV players
>然而這個公會的玩家大都是平均至中上等級而已 沒什麼需要集火 除非你看見上述兩個玩家
However, players from this clan are mostly average to above average; no focus firing is warranted unless you see the aforementioned players.

>POI
>公會總勝率 61.14% 公會總均傷 50349 場均經驗 1536 人數 30 R1玩家 6
>POI is a clan of unicums, they have a ridiculous amount of super unicums with the likes of Eurobeat, R3negade, ouka891, HeroOfWind, Haku and KC_Evans.
>When you see these people, concentrate fire at ALL costs, either your whole team needs to focus on killing them, or they will kill your whole team
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212k free exp collected. What do?
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>>167073672
Free exp to Admiral Hipper
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>>167073560
Uhhh... I dunno man. What should I say about the clan if he asks me?

I kinda want to avoid mentioning /vg/ entirely. For /wowsg/'s sake, that is.

"We are a clan of right-wing Argentinian Trump supporters who masturbate to cute warships"?
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>>167072912
Oh fuck it is. Also,
>people defending poi
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>>167073561
>TE_DeathSkyz
>not focusing this autist
For real?
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>>167073909
>This clan has two players who deserve attention: Stratmania and TE_DeathSkyz. These two are unicum tier players

>However, players from this clan are mostly average to above average; no focus firing is warranted unless you see the aforementioned players.
Did you failed your ESL reading exams?
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>>167073561
wtf, BOTES has a similar WR, avg damage and avg XP to STEIN, why the fuck are they "edging to unicum clan" and we are just "above average clan"?

don't tell me that their 1 rank 1 player makes them unicum
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>>167073672
>212k free exp collected. What do?
Save it in case a ship in one of the new lines is fucking OP, or has a peculiarity like Bisco's secs.
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If NA had a list of clans and their analyses, what would you say about the major ones?

What are even the "major" clans in NA?
>BOTES
>KNTAI
>OPG
>-FOG-
>APOC
I don't keep up with the WoWS competitive scene, so I don't know which clans commonly field teams.
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>>167073954
Lunatic BTFO!
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>>167073781
Yeah that'd about do it.
Mention that we love botes.
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>>167073970
They do have more 'blue' players compared to us.
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>>167073909
http://forum.worldofwarships.asia/index.php?/topic/21844-zao-is-op/page__pid__281904#entry281904

Stop shitposting Lunatic.
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>>167069042 #
>>167069440 #
Des Moines cannot. Only 380, while Zao/Hind can bounce with side 420mm.
Of course Moskva is made of balans so it can bounce Yamato.
>>167069140 #
WG, why? Can't you just give USN CA accurate long range secondaries, as national feature? Oh and 30mm side for Dess Memes

P. S. Baltimore citadel is not high. It is one of the lowest USN CA citadel in game
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>>167074119
I'd be blue too if it wasn't for this fucking tier 8 battleship with absurdly high server average stats. REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>167074119
How many blues and purples are in SEA BOTES?
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>>167074196
>T-the Alabama is keeping me down! It's a-all her fault!
Only shitters make excuses for their stats.
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>>167074252
Two of our purples are permanent migrants to NA. I'm hoping though, that at least once clan-based stuff begins, they can at least lend a hand every once in a while.

As for the ones that are still masochistic enough to remain on SEA server, we have lunatic, merchant, and snst.
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stats update where?
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>>167073970
>>167074119
Bear with me. I'm about to become blue

not blueline
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>>167073672
stop playing wows
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With Baltimore having 10sec reload, does that mean that he is now bedt firespammer at T9, or is it still D. Donskoy,?
>muh Murica arcs
Baltimore has almost exactly same arc as Ibuki
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>>167074440
Not until later. I got 4 more discharge summaries to finish this morning, then I'm gonna get myself a nice breakfast, then a nap, and maybe get some botes in before I start number crunching.

Thank you for subscribing to my blog! Be sure to hit the Like and Share buttons, too!
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>>167074539
>9 vs 12 guns
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>>167074180
>le Zao is OP meme
Also: Crowd Control loud speaker consumable WHEN???????????
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>>167072358
If only somebody was autistic enough to do something like this for NA.
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>>167074548
Have a good day stats-kun!
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>>167074353
I'm not masochistic
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>>167074349
The top guy on the server has a 90.2% winrate, and does 104,049 average damage. He has next to zero solo games in the ship, and only does 3-man divisions. Only 12 people on the entire server have the ship, so the server average is 60.94% WR, 64,254 avg dmg, but even so, the people sitting on these numbers only have 800-900 WTR on the ship.

Thank god I don't have a Flint.
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>>167074539
Balti has shitty arcs and shitty detection.

Ibuki has shitty arcs but doesn't die as often.

I am not holding out hope for Balti being good.

>>167074647
y-you too
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>>167074671
oh my god

stats kun was right about divs
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>>167074665
Then why stay on the server where
>nobody uses the chat to discuss tactics because everyone speaks 900 different languages
>your torpedoes never hit because baBBies actually press the A and D keys every once in a while
>cruisers never show their broadside because they're not sailed by baby boomers with 7 kids
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>>167074762
what was he right about?
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>>167074728
didnt balt got a smaller citadel in a update?
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>>167074808
I'm too lazy to regrind
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kek, why is SEA full of shitters

I bet if I had the Alabama, I could get 80% WR in it ez pz
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>>167074824
It always had extremely low citadel
Okay, at least as long as I have it, and that is about 3 months by now
>>167074812
About divs
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>>167074939
Even based Haku can't git gut in it
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>>167074824
Yeah, but that's not the point. You can't predict what hits are going to be citadels, so your behavior with the ship doesn't change much. If you have bad concealment and if you see shells flying in towards you frequently, that's going to force you into a different playstyle than one where no one is shooting at you.

Namely, because of your bad concealment, you spend a lot more time not-shooting in Balti than in Ibuki, and you have to play a lot more conservatively.
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>>167074353
>I'm hoping though, that at least once clan-based stuff begins, they can at least lend a hand every once in a while.
I don't know if I'll always have the time to do it because I'm not around during prime time, but if you really need me at some point I might be able to come and make up the numbers. Though I don't have as many T10s or T8s on SEA as on NA because I don't have as many games on SEA but if you need a shitty Hotel or Zao player I might be able to help there.
t. Hotel
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>>167074996
What about divs was he right about you SEApe?
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>>167074939
also, why do these average numbers not match up with warships.today?

are these stats not counting people with less than 40 battles?
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>>167074939
Have you even played on the SEA server? You don't get clueless morons to sail broadside to you, not even during weekends.
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>>167075026
We'll see how things go, I guess. Only having 21 players is suffering. I want to migrate to NA, but I genuinely have a sunken cost in World of Tanks.
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>>167075150
Benis please.
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>>167075103
How many times has the lunatic broken record been playing on replay mode?
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>>167075150
F A L L A C Y
A
L
L
A
C
Y
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>>167075041
>minimum battles: 40
>>167075150
Server transfer when REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :^)
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>>167075150
Iktf
I've started re-grinding WoT on NA recently too since I have a stupid amount of premium time anyway just so I can get some of my favorite tonks back.
It's made me really appreciate how much nicer WoWs is on new players compared to WoT, getting back my botes here wasn't really too bad at all.
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>>167075241
I knew this was coming.

SM pls go
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SEA is the most powerful server.
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>I-it's not that I'm bad! It's just that the server is so much more skilled on average!
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>ITT: SEAmonkeys vs. burgers vs. yuropoor
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>10 percent of /wowsg/ player population
>80 percent of discussion

SEA HOURS BOYS
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>>167075354
Whenever I'm playing my DDs they seem to be happy to fire into my smoke a lot.
They're not very accurate but they're at least trying.
t. NA
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>>167075407
Feels good.
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>>167075354
>Arashio and Asashio is MINE
>is

it's "are" you ESL, Arashio and Asashio ARE mine.

Do they not teach English to Chinese boat people in Australia?
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>>167075354
>Arashio and Asashio is MINE
Are.
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>>167075407
#MAGA
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Stop ruining the reputation of Chinese-descent players reeeeeeee
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>>167075321
Who?
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>>167075659
SneakyMongolian, he is a famous DD player on SEA, you probably never heard of him
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SEA is the most powerful server in the world.
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>tfw Chink
>tfw never make any stupid grammatical mistakes
Feels good TBQH
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No more shitposting!
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>>167075407
>1% percent of /wowsg/ player population
>80 percent of the shitposting

LUNATIC BOYS
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>>167075738
>tfw chink
>make more grammatical mistakes in Chinese than I do with English

dishonourable to muh ancestors
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>>167075772
Lunatic is far more than a percent.
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>>167075772
>1% percent

>one percent percent

How embarrassing. Have you considered kysing?
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>>167075816
Based Gweilo Edition
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>>167075748
This is all the fault of the discord trinity
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Best IJN Cruiser in game WHEN?
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EVERYONE, SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THE SEAMONKEYS ALREADY
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>>167075738
>tfw Chink born in China
>tfw my Chinese is absolute dogshit because I've lived in America for so long
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>>167075730
我的名字是CCS_Class_Battlecruiser(◠‿◠)

>>167075738
Best feel, you can call anyone ESL and you can't ever be called stupid 鬼佬 on bulletin boards and the like
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>>167076163
>(◠‿◠)

K Y S
Y
S
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>>167076046
It's too late, we can only surrender to our Asian Overlord
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>>167076032
>8 torps
>6 152mm guns
Unless it has some kind of gimmick or IJN HE Magic it'd basically just be a slow-ish DD with a citadel. Still faster than Akizuki though :^)
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>>167076082
But at reast you got A+ in exm and become doktor, so your parent don't beat you with wooden stick!
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SEA wins again.
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>>167076342
t. Certain YouTuber lerking in /wowsg/
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>>167076342
>obnoxious cartoon boys

Smells like ching cheng peak hours indeed.
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>>167075150
Why would you even care about WoT? I have More than 15k games in WoT and I couldn't care less about going back. WoWS is much comfier and fun to play.
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>>167076442
>boi
Rude. Fubuki a girl.
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>>167076321
That wasn't me.

Even though it's entirely accurate.
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>>167076342
>Fubuki

Really makes me think.

>>167076404
But the Fubuki poster in /wowsg/ is always Umidoori. No exceptions.
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>>167076451
Better BALANSE
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>>167076451
World of Tanks gives an adrenaline rush that simply can't be matched by WoWS's slow-paced gameplay
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>>167076508
I don't know who that Umidoori is but that person sounds really cool.
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>>167076585
He is a masochist who only plays terrible ships instead of embracing the balans like everyone else
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>>167076656
I don't see a problem with that.
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>>167076656
>He is a masochist who only plays terrible ships instead of embracing the balans like everyone else

That sounds like a certain K captain
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>>167076817
But Flamu said the Hindenburg is OP. :^)
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>>167075038
I've been trying to get a straight answer for a while now as well.
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>>167076032
>>167076314
Actually, looking at it carefully, Agano might actually be fun. It has 75% of Fiji's full load displacement but 37% more engine power, so it'd have ridiculously good acceleration, on par with the British CLs. If you gave it smoke and a citadel it'd make for a pretty good tier 7.
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i'm already into T8s is it too late to get a referral code?
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>>167076915
Flamu pretty explicitly says that it's the worst T10 cruiser in its current iteration but that it's fun.
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>>167077083
Unfortunately, yes.
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>>167077083
Just take a break for 3 months :^)
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>>167077036
>Agano
Just get Yahagi in game instead reeeeeeee I want to play her

>>167076915
Literally worst WR in Tier 10 >>167077091

>>167076817
Fuck off I'm not a masochist
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>>167077123
>>167077156
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>>167077202
>tfw no Yahagi to have in port with muh Hotel
True suffering.
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>>167077202
>Fuck off I'm not a masochist
You are, if you don't play the most balansed boats in the game.
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I really want WG to display all your ships actually in your port at the same time. I'd love to see all my 60-something ships hanging out in the Port of Sevastopol at the same time. Would be a good way to move port slots.
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>>167077602
They'll need to solve the performance issue first tho. Right now, the most resources demanding component of the game is actually the port
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>>167077772
>those fucking UI
>fucking days to bring up the container, campaign or mission screens
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http://forum.worldofwarships.ru/index.php?/topic/78801-%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE-%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0-0610-%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%83%D1%87%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81/#topmost

>Des Moines reload buff to 5.5 sec
>Baltimore reload buff to 10 seconds
>New Orleans reload buff to 12 seconds
>Pensacola will 12.78 km concealment
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It's byootiful
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>>167077951
>Myoko: 13.14km
>Shchors: 13.32km
>Fiji: 11.52km
>Yorck: 13.86km
>Pepsi: 15.66km --> 12.78km
It went from the most visible cruiser by far ot the second-most invisible. Wow. That's a freaking huge buff, wow.
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Why are the best /wowsg/s all Chinese?

>Jake: Makes stats updates for /wowsg/ every few weeks, and gives free donations to Raptor's retirement fund. 100% Chinese genetics.
>Boogbot: Defender of American freedom. 100% Chinese genetics.
>LunaticRed: The second best CV player in /wowsg/. Also turns every single okay /wowsg/ thread into an exciting /wowsg/ thread. 75% Chinese genetics, 25% black native.
>Spammist: Helps /wowsg/s grind their ships, while "escaping the learning curve", whatever that means. 100% Chinese genetics.
>Rapespammer: Posts cute pictures when the thread is almost dead. 100% Chinese genetics.
>Greg: Shoots black people. 0% Chinese genetics, but has yellow fever, so his kids will have Chinese genetics.
>F22xRaptor: Has the best onion recipes. I don't know how much % he is, but just look at those squinty eyes.
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>>167077202
>Just get Yahagi in game instead reeeeeeee I want to play her
They could do both, really. Have a regular Agano that can upgrade to 3x3 15.5cm guns and a premium Yahagi with smoke and a seaplane, but the historical 3x2 15.2cm guns, with both having the ability to mount the concealment module like Belfast.

Agano would be able to turn on a dime and have pre-nerf 15.5cm Mogami's turret turn rate, but wouldn't have the protection of smoke like Belfast and Fiji.

Yahagi would be able to self-spot in smoke and have good torps, but would have literally half the firepower of the Belfast and no radar.
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>>167078256
They're all white male pretending to be chinese
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>>167078381
nice try lunatic

you are NOT white
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>>167078381
t. FSB agent who pretends to be Chink
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>>167078381
>pretending to be chinese
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
based chinks!!!1!
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>>167078256
>>167078381
>>167078406
>>167078445
>>167078512
>Chinese
>Not subhuman
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>>167078256
>LunaticRed: The second best CV player in /wowsg/. Also turns every single okay /wowsg/ thread into an exciting /wowsg/ thread. 75% Chinese genetics, 25% black native.

By black native, do you mean Abos?

>>167078512
>Crippled "Simplified" Chinese
KYS
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>>167078512
>unironically putting 1s in your exclamation marks

go back to the 1990s, grandpa
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The general needs to be called
>World of shitposting armchair theorist /wowsg/
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>>167078720
/wosat/ does roll off the tongue slightly better than /wowsg/
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>2015 + 2
>games on 3 servers now dominated by chinks/chinkmigrants
>NALUL /wosat/ topped by a jew, mexican and some slanteyes
>still playing this pos game and not 3man divving with the most OP ships ingame

LMAO@URLYFE
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>>167078967
t. mako
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>>167078967
>EMBARASSING
*embarrassing
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>>167078967
>Uppity chinks who think they're top shit
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just look at the time, its yet another zipperheadchimpout
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Public Test Server got updated.
Balance changes:

Rare Upgrades Repair party Modification 1 and Surveillance Radar Modification 1 performance has been increased from 20% to 40% to make them more attractive - the competition in the respected slots is very high;

Flooding:

Maximum flooding time has been decreased by 25% (from 120 seconds to 90 second)

Maximum HP that can be lost in flooding has been rebalanced:

Low and mid tiers: Reduced

High tiers: Increased

Goal:

Increase the role of torpedoes in countering heavy ships

Increase the role of IJN destroyers - their torpedoes traditionally have highest chances to cause flooding:

Changes by tier:

I - III: - 33,3%

IV: -16,7%

V: -11,7%

VI: -6,7%

VII: -1,7%

VIII: +3,3%

IX: +8,3%

X: +13,3%

To increase comfort in game we have increased main caliber guns turning speed:

T-22 (from 10,0 degrees per second to 10,5 degrees per second);

Ibuki (from 5 degrees per secnd to 6 degrees per second);

Cruisers Marblehead and Marblehead L has received faster rudder shift (from 10,12 seconds to 7,5 seconds) to increase their survivability.
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>>167078967
I'm not chink tho
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>>167079203
you can copy a text, well done!
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>>167078005
>>167077951
wtf I love beniscola now
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>>167079203
IMPORTANT USN CRUISER BUFFS INCOMING.

For the same reason, cruiser Pensacola's visibility has been decreased to 12.78 km

Main caliber guns reload time of several USN cruisers has been decreased in order to make them more attractive as damage dealers:

Erie (from 7 seconds to 6 seconds);

New Orleans (from 14 seconds to 12 seconds for top guns);

Baltimore (from 13 seconds to 10 seconds for top guns);

Des Moines (from 6 seconds to 5,5 seconds);

Speed drop penalty for flooding has been adjusted so that it is more systematic:

Penalty for moving forward has been decreased from 35% to 20%: USN battleships (except Arkansas Beta), Koenig Albert, Kaiser, Koenig and G. Kurfurst;

Penalty for moving forward has been decreased from 20% to 15% and for moving backward has been increased: T 22, Ernst Gaede, Z-46, Ognevoy, Kiev, Leningrad, Udaloi and Khabarovsk;

Penalty for moving forward has been decreased from 20% to 15%: Srorozhevoy, Derzkii, Izyaslav, Blyskawica, Smith, Tashkent;

Fixes:

Fixed error that caused incorrect display of shell flying time if shooting range upgrade and spotter were mounted.

Fixed incorrect smokes setting: Now, the last smoke cloud is deployed at the end of smoke generator work cycle. That will prevent some inconvenient

game scenarios, especially with RN cruisers that have short smoke deploying timer.

Fixed mismatch between circles capture indicators on the timer and on the minimap in Epicenter mode on "Warrior's path" Cyclone is turned off on the map "Warrior's path" in Ranked Battles

Upgrades list in port has been set to the same order for all ships of all nations

Fixed error that caused some new upgrades be unavailable for ships that fit the requirements for them.

As the British cruiser smoke is an often mentioned topic on this forum, please check and provide feedback!

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/73124-public-test-update-31012017/
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>>167078720
why do they both have retarded faces with :D mouths?
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>>167079203
>Increase the role of IJN destroyers - their torpedoes traditionally have highest chances to cause flooding:
What's the point when people save repairs for flooding?
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@167079203
@167079320
Stop reposting leddit translations hours after they've been posted here for free (You)s
Useless autistic avatarfags; can't you write up an NA/EU clan spreadsheet instead?
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>>167079349
They're retarded.
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>>167079320
>Des Moines (from 6 seconds to 5,5 seconds)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgQpG-2AHX0
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>>167079378
chinks can only copy shit
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>>167079203
ijn torps are still ezly detectable?

do we know how much this flood buff is? most of the time a DD will just have the flood repaired, is this something a IJN DD could actualy use?
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>>167079716
Anu is not a chink. Do not sully us by association.
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>>167079798
>is this something a IJN DD could actualy use?
It'll be helpful for torpedo boost users (Shiratsuyu, Akizuki). For people who aren't using the reload booster it'll be functionally useless, since you'd need to hit a BB with a torp and then accurately predict them well enough to hit them a second time 20-30 later. Given that a BB will almost always immediately break off and turn tail once they take one torp, this is practically impossible, and a premium DCP will be recharged by the time high-tier DDs (which benefit from this) have their torps reloaded. A ship with torpedo booster can take advantage of this better, since they can immediately reload a full carpet.
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HOLY FUCK WHY THE FUCK IS THE KAWACHI EVEN A FUCKIGN THING?

WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY LET ANYONE DRIVE THAT STEAMING PILE OF DOG SHIT?
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how do you wash off the feeling of sealclubbing?

i was grinding bong CL and now im deep purple. all i wanted was some high quality bong, man.
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>>167072358
>A bunch of supertesters.
One is not "a bunch".
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>>167080067
>forgetting Lunatic

prepare to face the wrath of the abbo, kid
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>>167076557
Idk, you can always grab USN DD and go knifefight in a death circle
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good thread
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>>167080067
>snst
>jujuham
>happy_merchantman
>aman44
>StayMad
>Khanate
>EvelynSometimes
>Jeruk_Swag

>not STs

you sure are fuckin stupid, kiddo
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>>167080205
>StayMad
prove it
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>>167079979
tbqh i dont think a DD would count on flooding because of that

if he couldnt wing a CA to set a BBs DCP off then he will do so with his own guns or simply admit the extra flood chance will be wasted

sounds like a really handwaved way of pushing a useless buff to IJN DDs :^(

>>167080002
use your secondaries. ram targets. play coop until kongou

she is waiting for you right after izumo, keep going!
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>>167079319
>Beniscola
Is that a special "brew" of beverage by Benlis with a "secert recipe"
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>>167080241
I'm 100% ANGRY ALL THE FUCKING TIME
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>shitters get DM buffed

it's like atago getting heal all over again
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>>167080241
Here you go.
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>>167079203
What's the point? Torpedoes already always cause flooding anyway.
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>>167080374
Eriri a shit
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>>167080374
>totallynotashopjob.png
OK
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>>167080432
Previously they had around 250% chance of causing flooding.
Now it is 325%.
Is great buff, da comrade?
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can I still use a referral link for this game if I have an old WoT account?
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>>167080552
What, not good enough for you?

Geez you're such a spoiled brat. Here, have some more proof.
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>>167080432
>>167080274
>>167079979
>now any BB who will be hit by a IJN DD torp will pop DCP
>that means its a buff to any flamethrower CA
fucking genious
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>>167080691
Yes ,here's one for EU https://playtogether.worldofwarships.eu/invite/56YeazD
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>>167080691
yes. NA? heres one

https://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/KOWDKDn
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>>167080691
Yesas long as you're under service level 3 in Wows or haven't played in 3 month's time.

Which server are you playing on tho>
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>>167080432
And it's always repaired instantly.
>>
Here's one for SEA (Asia Server)

https://playtogether.worldofwarships.asia/invite/L0b2d1P
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>>167080890
NA.. if I dont get one from a friend soon Ill use one from this thread
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>>167080360
Too bad they didn't get bow armor buffed
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>has average stats
>be in BOTES
>playing in div quite often
>shitpost regularly on /wowsg/
>no one ever mentioned my name
Feels good being a nobody.
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>>167081053
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>>167080526
This desu
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>>167081053
Even side armor buff would be nice.
But I guess that would be too OP for WG.
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Rudder shift or DCP2 on Fuso?
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>>167081053
Still better than IJN DDs.
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>>167081536
Fuso is a slow unmaneuverable piece of shit. Making her slightly less unmaneuverable is always a good idea.
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>>167081651
Sigh.
This is going to be very long 20k base exp.
Thanks for advice
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>>167081225
What is this snake language.
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>>167082019
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>>167081224
>loli smoking reds
She's gonna make herself sick.
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>König at 5k hp goes in reverse
>"hey König I will smoke you"
>no sign of understanding
>smoke his ass and probably 2km behind him too
>he continues going backwards
>leave him and go to a cap
>look at the map
>he beached himself reversing out of my smoke trail and is getting gangbanged

These people are allowed to drive tonnes of steel on the road.
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>>167072106

why do they all look fucking terrified in this series of images
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>>167082668
Hey, I remember this pasta.
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>>167077951
>Pensacola will 12.78 km concealment
holy shit
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>>167082742
Hot as fuck
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>>167081917
Do not fret, anon.
Once you get past the stock hull, you get a 6-turret ship that can shoot as far away as the Kongo and obliterate those evil napalm torchers.
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>>167079349
Better than cleft lip :3 bullshit

>>167081536
I take DCP2 on all BBs except the Scharnhorst sisters.
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>>167074119
I used to be purple/blue, but a rather large losing streak happened then connectivity issues.

Down from 61% to 50% in a couple of weeks.
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>>167084337
More like because of Lunatiic New Year senpai
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>Atagoy
>Start of match, start heading to a point
>Chapayev cuts across my path right in front of me and starts slowing down
>Try to avoid but run into him
>HURR NICE STEERING CUNT YOU HIT ME
>Try to tell him there was no way to avoid
>YEAH SURE NO WAY CUNT
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lets just assume british BBs are all going to be like the warspite, what to skill?
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>>167084753
>Bismarck
>Been sailing straight for the past two minutes
>have the Sierra Mike flag on for reasons
>CA/CL's always try to cut in front of me and always make me T bone them
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>>167085480

>People are so far back they ram the carrier and blame the CV
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>>167085428
EM
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>>167085428
>implying they wouldn't be HE only
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>>167085547
>That battleship at the start of the match who sails into the ship in front of him and demands him to move
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>>167085547
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>>167085547
I just don't get it. If you're pulling in front of a big, fat ship, don't get pissy when they can't slowdown/turn enough to let you though.

>>167085735
>AdrenalineRush.webm
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>>167084753
>>167085480
>anyone giving a fuck about ramming in 2016+1

Whythefuckyoulying.mp4
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>>167085805
It's just the retarded logic that I don't get. It's like these people forget or fail to realise that ships can't stop or turn on a dime.

I mean you wouldn't run right in front of a speeding truck on a highway and then blame the trucker for not avoiding when he hits you.
>>
>driving my myogi
>get blue torped by an isokaze
>no big deal it happens

>next match
>same shit different isokaze
>wtf is this

>next match
>same shit again
>WTF YOU FUCKING NIGGERKAZES

>next match
>AGAIN
>AKLJGFKLJGDSLKWJHWE*I)@!!$Y()*!$^$%R

fuck this game and these shit players
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>>167087261
Hello Mako
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>>167087261
>not skipping the biggest piece of junk in this game
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>>167087880
But he already skipped the Kawachi.
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>>167088406
kawaiichi has 8 barrels broadside

miojo has 6. 4 on the rear.

think about it for a second
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>>167088406
>>167087880
>not skipping straight to t10
t.half the t10s
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>>167088770
That doesn't even make sense.
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>>167088707
>8 barrel broadside
>range of a fucking DD
>giant floating citadel with no armor

kawachi is fucking garbage and it's the worst BB in the game.

A St Louis is a better BB than the Kawachi
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>>167088770
kongou is almost worth it. nassau definitively makes the KM BBs more comfy, their only poor ship is bayern with its subpar accurancy.

fusou is okay but needs to be fully upgraded, nagato and amagi are more akin to sniping battlecruisers that need to keep range to be good. by then only not-nelson is subpar and not by a great deal, even it can do well.

yamato will always be worth it. pen the bow of anything any day any time anywhere on the map.
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>>167088875
what are you talking about

st lois is a BB anon

the only way to kill it is to torp it. it cant even dodge well.
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>>167088967
Minus the fact that the KM BB's are the best in tier for all their teirs.
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>>167089073
>Bayern being better than Fuso or NM
t. wehraboo
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>>167089949
You can Citpen the NM AND the Fuso, and the Bayern has better guns AND better armor.
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>>167089949
Bayern is so much more tankier it's not even a contest.
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>>167086124
>I mean you wouldn't run right in front of a speeding truck on a highway and then blame the trucker for not avoiding when he hits you.
Unless a woman is driving, then they will blame the trucker and scream "this is not My fault!"
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>>167088707
there is literally nothing in the game worse than the kawachi.

It can be kited by any random cruiser or DD forever, simply driving faster than a baBBy and shooting/torping it from beyond its worthless micro-gun-range.
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>>167090049
>You can Citpen the NM AND the Fuso
In theory, yes
In practice, 95% of your shots land anywhere else while they grind you down
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I'm not a navy fag, but was late war AAA really this bad? Or was this mostly for MUH DRAMA? It really seems like a really fucking horrible idea to rely on a bunch of mid to low rate of fire weapons once naval bombers are up on you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ5LW9eYh4k
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Can someone please post the latest best wowsgs in ships?
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>>167091226
Only good IJN AA gun was the 10cm dual purpose.

All their other AA guns were trash in comparison to Allied weapons systems.
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>>167091305
stats kun is supposedly posting an updated ranking today or tomorrow, have some patience anon
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>>167091226
IJN AA was trash for the entire war, with the possible exception of the 100mm guns mounted on the Akizuki class and Taiho.
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>>167091454
I assume that is the baby turrets along the sides of the Yamato?

How good realistically was USN/RN AAA?
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>"NM, scout plane at the start is a waste"
>"your mom is waste"
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>>167091226
IJN AAA was garb because they were relying purely on accuracy of the guners

US and allied AAA was great because of the fuses used in the ammo.that would make the shells explode when near a fighter.
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>>167091624
BTFO
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>>167091226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-D592VR4RU
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Am I the only one feeling demotivated playing games after the daily win?
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>>167091226
Jap AA was garbage. The 25mm mounts were supposed to fire fast, but due to how they were designed ended up having a lower sustained RoF than the 40mm Bofors with much, much less stopping power.

They also didn't have any equivalent to the 20mm Oerlikon, so their 25mm mount was forced to be both their short- and mid-ranged weapon while being good at neither.
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>>167091226
>It really seems like a really fucking horrible idea to rely on a bunch of mid to low rate of fire weapons once naval bombers are up on you
You're an absolute idiot.

The ship has a combination of small guns for close defense and large guns for long range fire (without large, slow-firing guns, the fleet would be helpless both against bombers at altitude and would be helpless at stopping drops of long range torpedo far beyond machine gun range)

You can already experience the jist of the stupidity of relying on small guns in world of warships on one of the ships that has 1.5km range anti-air.
Even if you had 60 of those guns on a ship it would still get asshole raped because by the time it opens fire, the torps/bombs are already hitting.
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>>167091829
Neat as fuck. Thanks.

>>167091693
I didn't think they had proximity shells in WWII. I thought it was all hit or altitude fuses.
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>>167091226
Consider that the gunners are completely unshielded and thus vulnerable to strafing, needs 3 people to operate one awkward moving gun and they got nothing to assist them. Also keep in mind that 25mm triple turrets run out of ammo fast and someone has to hold the magazines down on it, also that there's a history of them overheating and needing to wait for cooldown, and this while they fail to shoot as many round as was advertised.
It's a big collection of fail in one single gun.
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>burgerboos not understanding how AAA works
>muh VT, muh Oerlikons
>still got shit on by planes
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>>167091975
USN was the only nation with proximity fuses during WW2.

>>167092329
>weebs think 25mm and manually trained 5" guns are okay
>entire navy sunk by planes
>muh honor
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>>167092329
>japan didn't lose the war
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>>167092438
>what is being out produced

>>167092405
Burger AAA worked really well at Pearl Harbor.
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>>167092405
>Also in 1944, fuzes were allocated to the British Army's Anti-Aircraft Command, that was engaged in defending Britain against the V-1 flying bomb. As most of the British heavy anti-aircraft guns were deployed in a long, thin coastal strip, dud shells fell into the sea, safely out of reach of capture. Over the course of the German V-1 campaign, the proportion of flying bombs flying through the coastal gun belt that were destroyed rose from 17% to 74%, reaching 82% during one day. A minor problem encountered by the British was that the fuses were sensitive enough to detonate the shell if it passed too close to a seagull and a number of seagull "kills" were recorded.[24]
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>>167092536
>1941 against a navy stationary at port in peacetime conditions
>"AA"

How about South Dakota shooting down 26 planes at the Battle of Santa Cruz in October of 1942.
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>>167092536
the japs couldn't keep up because they kept losing all their fucking planes because they were all shot down.

i know being a weeb is a meme and all, but at some point you have to accept that despite their early success in the war Japan's inferior technology didn't do them any favors once they faced a legitimate military that wasn't some backwater country or opium addicted hell hole.
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>>167091593
A lot better for a number of reasons.
1. Late war rounds for the 40mm and 5" had VT proximity fuze, which meant they would explode when they got within a couple of meters of the aircraft.
2. The AA mounts for the 40mm and 5" were all powered, this meant it was much easier to keep enemy aircraft track compared to manual/really slow powered IJN 25mm/5" mounts which were way slower in training and elevation
3. The 5" guns were radar guided, hence way more accurate
4. 25mm had a really low magazine capacity of 15rds/barrel. 20mm Oerlikon had 15-30rounds magazine, 40mm Bofors was constant-fire top-fed, so in it's case a well trained crew would never need to stop firing.
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>>167092536
I didn't know that "losing every major battle" is called "outproduced" nowadays.
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>>167092915
>inferior technology
>best naval planes/carriers/battleships of the war
Okay, whatever you say pal.

>>167092885
>1941
>peacetime
>after being sent there to threaten the japs
>peacetime

>>167092919
>the radar meme again
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>>167093104
Ironic shitposting is STILL shitposting.
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>>167093104
>best
>lost

pick one

IJN small penis compensation flag ships don't instantly mean they are the best.
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>>167092536
>Burger AAA worked really well at Pearl Harbor.
20mm Oerlikons had only been test-fired in June. On the day of Pearl Harbor there were only 379 Oerlikons in the entirety of the US Navy, most of which hadn't been installed on any surface vessels yet. The first Bofors wasn't produced until 1942. VT Fuses obviously weren't on the production line.

Most of the things that made US AA exceptional weren't widely implemented or even existent yet at the time of peral harbor, you dumb fuck.
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>>167092919
>40 mm
>VT
Nope
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>>167088875
>A St Louis is a better BB than the Kawachi
Can't argue against that.
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>>167093104
>best naval plane
F4U-1D Corsair (for its performance), F6F Hellcat (for its sheer ease to fly even though it had worse performance)
>Carriers
Dunno, but Essex seems to outdo every IJN carrier not just in quantity but quality (Taiho sunk by 1 torpedo, IJN damage control was utter shit, while there were multiple cases of USN boats staying afloat when really they shouldn't of been able to)
>Battleships
>implying they are relevant.
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>>167093250
fuck off whitto piggu
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>>167093250
So much for muh advanced technology.
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>it's another autists argue how WW2 actually played out episode
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>>167093849
>Military at war's beginning not as technologically advanced as it was at war's end.
More news at 10.
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>>167094015
>A thread about a video game about world war II warfare
>wow why are people arguing about world war II warfare
Wow big shocker
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>>167094026
Thanks for making my point that IJN was superior to the USN.
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>>167074053
Is botes really "major"? What is "major"? WR:Size ratio? Activity on forums?
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>>167094112
>video game about world war II warfare

You misspelt Visual Novel with Action Hentai Doujinshi Elements.
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>>167092801
>it rained seagull burger in bingistan thanks to burgerclaps
MAGA
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>>167094584
Doubt it we couldn't even get 9 people for a scrim.

The only thing major is we were the first beta clan to max out the members.
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>>167094719
No ones gonna scrim against a clan like BOTES if you keep literal autismspeaks in it.
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>>167094827
>autismspeaks
??

We had a scrim ready to go, we just didn't have anyone online to join.
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>>167091226
One of the defining shortcomings of IJN AA was that between the long range 5" AAA and the short range 25mm AA, there was nothing. No one's AAA could ever hope to fend off planes when they get to withing actual bombing dropping range, because mounts are too slow and fuses (maybe, I don't really know the numbers) are too long.

That's why USN AA was so much more effective and accounted for the vast majority of aircraft shot down. You have the long range 5"/38 AAA (which later became even more effective with proximity fuses), then the fantastic mid range Bofors 40mm (which was too small to mount the proximity fuse, which is why very late warships had those 3" guns you see on Des Moines, also because the bofors could not cold stop a plane if it wanted to kamikaze int oyou), and then finally the 20mm Oerlikons for really close range AA that can turn quickly and thus keep up with plons.
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>>167094719
Major doesn't necessarily mean relevant in scrims and shit, just people you should watch out for in random pubs. The SEA clan description focuses primarily on randoms too (i.e. divisions you should get your team to focus).

It does illustrate an important point regarding scrims, though, that 30 people clans require way too much coordination to have people online for a clan based on 4chan. With a 100-person clan, odds are you can always scrape up 12 people who are around to take part in CWs with the ships to do so at any time that's not real nigga hours NA. With a 30 person clan the odds of nearly half the clan being there and available with the necessary tier 8s is really low. As is, the limited player pool is going to make it hard for something loose like a 4chan-based clan to take part in any kind of CW thing without someone taking the time and effort to figure out availabilities and put people together.
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>>167094827
Nigga we're so good we won a scrim without even playing
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>>167093250
20mm Oerlikons are no Anti-Air ARTILLERY.
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>>167092919
>1. Late war rounds for the 40mm and 5" had VT proximity fuze
no
no
NO

There's a reason Des Moine doesn't have any bofors.
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>>167095470
Are you really expecting a burgerboo to know things?
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>>167094719
>>167094987
Very few people knew about said scrim until it was just about to happen. Have it set up in advance, have specific people confirm they'll be there, and preferably do it during the week. Saturday doesn't seem like a good day to expect lots of people online; I for one never play on sabbath.

Which clan were you going to scrim against anyway?

>>167095180
It doesn't help either that there's literally no motivation to do these mock training battles. Team Battles proved that /wowsg/ is interested in playing semi-organized stuff, but will not bother as long as there's no tangible reward.
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>>167095719
>have specific people confirm they'll be there
This is a hit and miss tactic. Ive seen so many instances of someone asking another if they can come to this event at X 'oclock and they say yes, I'll be there, and then fucking no one shows but the guy trying to coordinate.

But other times almost everyone shows up.

People are unreliable when all thats at stake is just a game dude XD.
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>people activly refuse to learn basic concept of the game that can even be learned by SEAmonkeys
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>For the same reason, cruiser Pensacola’s visibility has been decreased.
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shinonome is ok
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>>167096297
>No 10 km torps
ffs WG, when will you give me a premium I can use to train my Torpedo Acceleration captains?
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SUMMONING

room service
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>>167087880
Myogi is easy and a fun ship to use if you know how to.
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>>167097365
>Lower average damage than kuma or fucking danae

dont believe his lies
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>>167097307
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>>167097601
Myogi came much earlier than them, Kuma and Danae are ships I picked up much later.
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>epicenter
>kill a few people
>winning game
>die to cv torps at all angles
>all botes except cv's dead
>had the lead until their colorado capped epicenter and died to saipan
>2v2 cv's
>our independence is back from a 10 minute afk
>sails away from the cap point at 4:10 minutes left in game
>they are winning by points 800-620
>Saipan murders both cv's with 1:20 left on clock
>bitch/report 7 times the independence for being "hurrrr cap point? what's that?" nigger tier stupid
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Can't redistribute skill points at all anymore. The icon is greyed out and doesnt list number of doubloons. is this new ?
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>>167099804
I don't have this bug.
Are you on PTS? Maybe you don't have enough gold?
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>>167099804
When was the last time you played?
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>>167099804
Are any points assigned?
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What should I do as a BB if a Taihou decides I don't get to live anymore?
WSAD is useless, I can't turn an island with propellers fast enough to avoid anything and 2plons can't fight 2+ strike groups, am slow battleship and can't keep up with Montana or the American cruisers.
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>>167101978
Quit to port.
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>>167091593
No, the little turrets on the Hotel are 2x 127mm gun turrets, which was the same long range AA gun that they put on pretty much everything, it just looked a bit different because on the Hotels they put 3 on each side into fancy enclosed turrets, though they added 6 more un-shielded ones to Hotel during her refit anyway.
About the only IJN ships that consistently mounted the 10cm were the Ducks as their main armament. I think they put it on a few other botes too like the Taiho, but it was never very common.
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http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/113917-flex-the-lex-in-game-competition/page__st__80__pid__2773553#entry2773553

gg
ez
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>>167095923
True, but you have a better chance of getting enough people there with some actual advanced warning though, in this case plenty of people weren't even told the time that it was going to be on until after that planned time was passed already.
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PROTIP: save your precious botespinning time by skipping the container opening animation! Containers can be opened from the stockpile without the animation if you click the 'Open container' button while the camera is travelling to the ship.
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>>167101978
Absolutely fucking nothing.

According to WG, this is fine because the preceding tiers of CV and most USN CVs got nerfed to shit.

inb4 the usual CV balancing discussion we have once a month
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>>167101978

Spec for AA, don't wander off on your own. Ask for a cruiser buddy to press T once every 3-5 minutes. Boom you are immune to 99 percent of Taiho players.
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>>167102115
>357k in a single battle in a T8

was everyone that match just fucking retarded
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today i had fun
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>>167108164
kkyyyyasssss
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Haifuri when?
Blahaj when?
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So when will WoWs have mastery badges for ships?
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>be RN CL
>tier 4 her majesty's ship danae
>contesting cap with non brony allied russian destroyer derpy
>14 torpedoes later, 1 DD DDead
>focus on a cruiser attempting to cap
>2 shells from a BB on the other side of the map connect to me
>explode
i dont know what i was expecting
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>>167108997
It would be kind of shitty.
As memetastic as WoT is it's really much better balanced than botes. They need to fix their shit before they worry about adding mastery badges.
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>>167109195
It only gets worse in the emerald anon. You're still in a Danae but you see tier 7 games all the time and all you have to even the score is smoke.
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>do more than twice the server average damage today
>25% winrate
>stats-kun spreadsheet coming tommorow
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>>167109719
>average damage
>meaning anything
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>>167109719
>Already sitting on 140k damage and 4 kills in a bottom tier cruiser
>It's still 6 v 1
>All the enemies are full or nearly full health.
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>>167102036
No, the 127s are still in dual mounts. It was the 25mm who were in cute little enclosed triple mounts.

Hotel superstructure really looks nice with all those enclosed mounts.
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>>167110157
I was assuming he wasn't mistaking 25mm guns for 100mm guns.
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>capturing the base on standard battle
>no-one bothers going back to defend
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>>167110157
wow ugly
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I want the Solomon Islands meme to end.
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>>167110447
t. Nelsonposter
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>>167110157
disgusting boat, looks like an insect, 0/10 would not sail
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>>167110732
>looks like an insect
what the fuck does this even mean
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>>167110447
>>167110732
Better than Izumo. Izumo looks like a boat with a dragon dildo stuck on top.
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>>167111213
Just like nelson
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What is it about the citadel that makes it such a weak point? Is it where a majority of the ammo is stored? How come hitting the bridge doesn't effect much of anything? It seems a bit silly that the ships are filled with a singular gooey area that's a no touchy zone, compared to smaller broken up gooey areas.
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>>167110943
kys dumbposter
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>>167111949
>What is it about the place where you keep your ammo that makes the bote go pew pew and the machinery that makes the bote go vroom vroom that makes it such a weakpoint

well gee, i dont know. really makes me think
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>>167111949
Because having a single armored box with all the ship's vitals is a lot easier to armor than having lots of littled armored boxes with the same overall volume?
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>>167111949

>>> The weight saved was used to strengthen the armor protecting the vital areas of the ship; and to design a more compact interior space, where more, and more vital, systems would be located. The logic of the design was simple: If the ship was hit in vital areas (the ammunition and propellant magazines; the propulsion plant; the fire-control, command and communications sections), her survival was in jeopardy. On the other hand, if the ship was hit in non-vital areas (non-explosive stores, crew berthing and rest areas, offices and administrative areas), it would most likely not result in the ship's destruction.

>>>In the ideal form of the system, all of a battleship's armor was concentrated to form an armored "citadel" around the ship's magazine spaces: an armored box of uniform thickness designed to defend against the largest enemy guns. When battle stations were called, the whole crew retreated into this area behind armored bulkheads and armored watertight doors, which were sealed so that each compartment within, and the armored citadel as a whole were virtually immune to enemy action other than concentrated and direct attack. Save for the turrets, the ammunition hoists, the conning tower and part of the steering gear, nothing in the way of armor protected the remainder of the ship. By stripping away the armor from all other parts of the ship, the armor of the citadel could be made thicker. The propulsion plant, communications systems, weapons, ammunition stores, and command and control of the ship were located in a single area within and beneath the armored citadel. Everything else resided outside this structure.

>>>The armored citadel can be visualized as an open-bottomed (closed top) rectangular armored raft with sloped sides sitting within the hull of the ship. From the box, shafts known as barbettes would lead upwards to the ship's main gun turrets and conning tower.
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>>167111949
engine, personnel, ammo. some turrets magazine doesnt really count as it, but every time you hit it you can cause detonation, so it counts kinda
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>>167112141
Isn't the engine room usually behind where citadels in the game are? And you can't tell me that ships carry /that/ much ammo that it makes up a majority of the below decks.

>>167112278
I guess. It just seems kind've lazy

>>167112318
I thought the 'all or nothing' was the USN shtick for BB design, or was this more universal?

>>167112325
Yeah, It's just strange coming from WoT where there's hitboxes for different critical area's scattered about to just click center of mass.
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>>167112515
>a majority of the below decks
who the fuck said this
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>>167112515
>Isn't the engine room usually behind where citadels in the game are?
Have you actually looked at ship schematics? Boilers and turbines actually take a huge amount of room on any given ship.
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>You dont need that much room for ammo he said
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>>167112717
I know nothing of boats, that's why I'm curious. I get to looking at blueprints and it quickly gets to the point of 'what the fuck am I looking at.'

The closest I've been to the inside of a boat is playing Silent Hunter. And the Story of how I accidentally sunk the Bismarck.
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>>167112946
>Accidentally sunk the Bismarck

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, YOU INCOMPETENT
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>Captain, do we really need all this ammo?
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>>167112515

It was used by the Royal Navy as well, but I mainly posted those paragraphs because they're a very in depth description of the citadel.
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>>167113032
>>167112696
What's the purpose of laying all the ammos on the deck?
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>>167112515
look at the armor viewner.

today i managed a feat, i citpenned a BB as a RN CL. i managed to do that because the broadside armor ends at the bow armor, so shooting at the bow on the connection to the broadside armor allowed me some hits on the citadel. if i couldnt penetrade i would have still disabled his first turret

i think ill make a webm of it. was pleasantly surprised with it.

certain things arent modeled on the armor viewner (like AAA) but all that matters is in there.
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>>167113125
It's not like you can just open up the citadel bay doors and lower them all in at once.
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>>167113125
>look, man, all i know is that someone accidentaly dented one of those shells and we have to inspect them before it explodes

>okay folks, captain thinks that looting the medicine cabinet and replacing everything with rum is not exactly acceptable behaviour

>quartermaster said someone accidentaly painted all shells black, now we dont know wich are the HE and AP. scrub them all. careful with the tip!
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>>167113328
>careful with the tip!
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>>167113030
All I'm going to say is when you're hunting a Revenge class ship in the fog, made sure you always double check the panty line with the camo.

>mfw when I had realized what I had done and not having enough fuel to make it to Argentina, but set sail that way anyways.
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>tfw wasting my premium time just playing 4 battles a day

Feels bad man.
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>citadeling a german bb
rly made me thingk
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Well, they finally broke me. Once I get my tax return, I'm going to be a good goy and buy some shekels. Thinking about getting an Atl as well, or maybe the Tirpitz.
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>>167113032
>Paint me like one of your French girls

>>167113328
Implying the projectiles are stored with the fuse installed.
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>>167114862
>Buying the shittiest prems
Wait for the next broken monstrosity to come along and buy the bundle. That's more cost-effective.
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there, its shit but i did it

i also found 2 old agility mogamin videos i did
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>>167115426
>HOTEL
NIce meme dess
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>>167112045
>spent 4 months in misery because of those fucking things
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DELET
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>>167115426

>>167115505
thx
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>>167115576
this was with accel and the turn mod that goes where concealment is

>dodging BB shells like a DD
>drifting harder that before
sure felt nice for the little time i couldnt invisifire
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>>167116535
They'll just ignore you all match long.
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>>167116535
>implying those planes are going anywhere near you
Texas has a hard life.
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>>167117214
if they are smart

on tier 5, as bogue, wouldnt even be too surprising if all 4 bogues were AS builds.
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)))) German BB best back line sniper
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>>167115529
>not having rubber matress
>not washing your bed covers every 3 weeks
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>it's game crashes after you start night at WG
Fuck this.
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>>167117341
Clearly he's providing AA cover.
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>>167117214
>>167117331
mokou_my_sadness_very_big.jpg
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>>167117707

>tfw never get to fly swat with any of your USN boats
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>The Arpeggio of Blue Steel will at last show its true strength!
>ranked will be tier 7 even if only for 10 ranks and many wont be willing to P2W their way out of it
>Black should be a reward for ranking 1 for 5 times this season
>learn to git gud like how solo div statpadders on /WoWSg/ were supposed to!
>HOTEL was created on NA despite all the polls
>yet another myoko as a reward! it comes with a furry captain! a dragon in the year of the rooster! it totally makes sense!
>skills rework is here! RPF was smoke and mirrors to hide the real OP shit
>IFHE is shite on 200mm, good on anything else, take note of bow and prow hp
>IFA is a baBBys wet dream against torpedoes
>DCfCA is shit but somehow DDs hate it
>AR is the sex
>new )))))) DD line split next
>khab will get heal in exchange of smoke for some odd reason
>USN CA DPM buffs all across the board
>IJN DD got a bandaid buff to torp flooding
as ranked draws near and shitposting intensifies, do you have what it takes to collect all the salt and keep it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSJ-0I2tLUQ
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>>167117853
>tfw all of my good flyswatters are Russian
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>there are people who still don't recognize Yamato as the ultimate battleship
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So what is the poinit of Akatsuki, because it seems to me Shira is better at everything?
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So does this have any gimmick other than blooooooooooom?
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>>167118918

The gimmick is it's just another myoko like every other prize ship
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>>167118897
>Shira can shit out torps every minute in three salvos

woah
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>>167118897
>less guns
>less frequent torp salvos
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Has anyone noticed players who do absolutely fuck all in their cruisers?

Like I've noticed more and more that some players act like they're run on a fucking script or some shit. These things hang out near the edge of the map absolutely near no one, they swirl and circle in odd ways and they don't fucking play at all

then it comes down to it they're the last fucker on the map and all they do is go around islands and hardly ever shoot
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>Try to play Dragon Myoko
>Enable minimap circles for air detection range
>The AA det starts flickering
>Framerate drops from 60 to 13

Quality coding.
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>>167118874
baka desu
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>tfw KMBB's were my first BB line
>just got to tier 6 in USN BB's
>this main battery accuracy
I feel tricked.
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>>167120594
newyowa a cute
CUTE
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>it's another "More XP than anyone on the winning team" episode
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>>167120594
I know right?
The KM line tricks you early because of the pure volume of fire and the absolute shit it has to compare with like the kawachi.
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Please start listing NA clans notable for their size or competitiveness.
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>>167120923
I got all the way up to the Bismarck before I decided to branch out. I don't know if its confirmation bias, or the 4x3 setup, but I seem to be able to peg people a lot more often at longer rangers.
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>>167121578
Playing the Bayern right now, the guns are absolutely shit and the secondaries are ass

the only thing it has going for it is that its secondaries are plentiful and AA is ok and its faster than the NY
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>>167117383
>implying that does anything by itself.
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>>167121652
Bayern is shit, Genis just pure fun, and Bisco is just pure bully.

Just don't expect MLG PRO hits at 15km+ ranges
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>>167117853
…and the CVnt complained about us not covering his planes or some shit
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>see a /vg/ in game on the enemy team
>just type in "Hey anon"
>"sorry I'm solo pubbing right now"
>tfw I just wanted to say hi
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>>167121652
>the secondaries are ass
>Bayern
Nani?
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>>167122108
same happened to me earlier.

shitter/10
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Is there a place where I can get a break down of the cruiser lines? Want to decide before I dedicate myself to a grind.
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>>167122205
unless you have the massive accuracy upgrade they don't do fuck all
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>>167121749
ur shit

Bayern is the best T6 BB.
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>>167122457
the fuso is way better, way more accurate and way faster
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>deleting a near full health Minotaur with my Montana

What a glorious feeling, I hate that ship with a passion
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http://forum.worldofwarships.asia/index.php?/topic/22317-battleship-development/

Quality thread. As expected of SEA server.
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>>167122607

Montana's broadside is the best for bullying Cruisers and Destroyers t b h
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>>167122543
>Fuso
>way faster
What did he mean by this?
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>>167122457
I hated it. It was the low point of the line for me.

Then again everyone's different.
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>>167122269
I'm going to start at tier 5 for all of them because no one cares about low-tier ships when it comes to the grind.

>USN
In general, USN cruisers' niche is their AA. Too bad no one plays CVs, so lmao. The T7-10 ships are all getting significant buffs soon. Their shells are slow but they hit hard. Their AP is really good, HE is passable.
T5 is citpen pinata. T6 is a shadow of its former self. T7 is a citpen pinata but it's soon getting its detectability buffed. T8 is the T7 with better gun arrangement and workable armor. T9 is the T8 but with worse MM. T10 is rape because lol autoloaders.

>IJN
Their niche is their stealth, excellent handling, and HE. They also have long-range torps, though you can't really use them in a knifefight unless you're the Atago. Overall, IJN cruisers are probably the easiest cruiser line to get into, and you get to farm Witherer and Arsonist medals.
T5 has the largest guns of any cruiser at its tier. T6 is pretty much the tier 5 with some improvements. It still has the largest cruiser guns of its tier minus the Graf's Pee. T7 has 10 guns and a crapload of torps, but its turret traverse is glacial. T8 has two different gun configurations. You can keep the large 203mm guns or you can choose the smaller-caliber 155mm guns (which used to be amazingly overpowered until a series of nerfs that really killed that build ;_;). It has a better gun arrangement than the T7, and if you go the 155mm route, you can get 15 guns shooting at a target, which can really ruin a DD's day. T9 is the T8 but with invisifiring. T10 is an invisible flamethrower and you will make enemy battleships incredibly mad.
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>>167122457
Tbh Bayern is by far my least favorite T6 BB out of all of them. I much prefer the Fuso or Arizona, hell even the NM or Bongspite. I don't think it's a bad bote or anything, but man I really did not enjoy it.
For some reason I found it easier to hit things with the guns on the Gnies than the Bayern too.
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>>167123141
Yea really, the accuracy on the bayern is such ass, missing shit at 10km because of dispersion being so bad
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>>167123090

>USN cruisers' niche is their AA.
Lmao Schors at t7
Lmao Kutusov/Chappy/Hipster t8
Lmao Donkey at t9
Lmao Mino/Movska at t10
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>>167123428
>I cry every time my planes explode
Fuck off, Anu. Just because you lose squads to DDs doesn't make them OP.
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>>167123514
Who said anything about OP? They're just better than USN at their supposed niche.
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>>167122269
>>167123090
>KM
Their "niche" is their AP, but you'll find that it doesn't really change your playstyle compared to the other cruiser lines, though, so whatever lol. They have range, AP, and okay armor. They also have torps but they're closer-ranged, and they're generally used in knifefights.
T5 is a good light cruiser with amazing range for its tier. T6 is more or less the same as the T5. T7 is different because its AP is different from the rest of the line's, and while it hits hard, it is very slow. Tanky, though. T8 has better AP than the T7 but is overall underwhelming. T9 is great with excellent range and shell speeds. T10 I don't have yet.

>VMF
Their national peculiarity is in being absolute bullshit. Seriously, Only two of their ships in tiers 5-10 were ever constructed, and one of them was post-war and launched in fucking 1950. Anyways, they're generally firespammers on account of their sheer volume of shells. Handles like a train, but they have good range so lmao. They also have torps but they're almost always unusable.
T5 has big guns and does a lot of damage, but it's very fragile. T6 has smaller guns and sets loads of fires. T7 is the T6 with even more guns but horrible maneuverability. T8 is the T7 with usable armor. T9 is the T5 on steroids and with usable armor. T10 is ))))))))))))))))

>RN
LOL NO HE. Your ability to play well depends on your ability to not be seen. That is because your ships have very big and slutty citpussies. You do have smoke, though, but make sure you don't deploy it near one of the many ships with radar. You can shoot from range but lel those shell arcs.
I haven't actually played these ships past low tiers, so I'll not actually try to comment on these ships.
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>>167122931
How do you subhumans even exist
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>>167122859
24.5 > 25 now, anon. #alternativefacts
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bias/10
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>>167123927
>people don't like the same playstyles in ships
News at 11.
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>>167123864
>>167122269
See? >>167124107
Absolute fucking bullshit. No, the Shchors never existed. How can you tell?
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>>167124219
Bayern doesnt have any special playtstyle you shit.
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>>167123864
>T8 is the T7 with usable armor.
And a hilariously long range radar too.
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>Dunkerque at full steam is heading right for my Warspite
>he's 1/5th HP and I'm 3/4ths
>he's also 2.5km away and guns on reload
>tfw know my fate
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Why are Americans so cowardly?
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>>167124351
It and Bongspite are the T6 BBs who really benefit from brawling at close range, though. But it's better than Bongspite because it actually has usable armor.
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>decide to finally take my Atlanta out for a match for the first time in ages
>T9 game with no CV
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>>167124351
Wow, anon. No need to be so pissy. I just didnt' like it. Speed wasn't fasd enough for how bad the dispersion on the guns. Sorry I like other BB's in the same tier a lot better.
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>>167121749
>>167122457
Statwise Bayern is the best
Funwise I like the New Mexico more. There's just something about blapping cruisers with those 12 guns.

>>167122416
They're enough to deter most destroyers from chasing you. They've been invaluable in brawling other battleships though. I've gotten so many fire kills from them.
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>>167124536
>Warspite
>Brawler
>>167124561
>Bayern
>Inaccurate

Literal fucking retards.
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>>167124935
Bayern treated me poorly. Very poorly. Sorry mate. I missed so many broadsides that I should've of missed. Not to mention it's low in the comfy stat.
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>>167124935
>>Bayern
>>Inaccurate
it is extremely inaccurate you fucking mongoloid
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>>167124935
>>Bayern
>>Inaccurate
It felt like it had worse accuracy than anything else I've ever played.
The fucking Gneis was better in that department.
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>>167124561
Bayern dispersion isn't actually worse than any other battleships of the same tier, it just has a lower volume of fire so you notice the dispersion more lending to the illusion that it has worse accuracy. If there's anything to complain about on the Bayern it's the reload time being longer than the Fuso.
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>>167124107
Is that a smug hotel I spy?
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>>167125112
I'm playing the gneis right now and it seems literally hit and miss

sometimes its super accurate and I nail cruisers from 15 easily and other times its fucking drunk and sprays it everywhere
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>>167125060
No, New Mexico is extremely inaccurate. Warspite is extremely acurate. Bayern is somewhere just below warspite you mouth breathing retards.
>>167125039
You treated her poorly.

Bayern must be some kind of idiot trap for you dumbfucks to have trouble with her.
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>>167125150
That may be it, but on the same token, the Geins, Bismarck, and Freddie have all treated me very well with long range accuracy.

>>167125185
Like I said, I've done well in the rest of the line, with Bayern it was just a exercise in frustration.

I was actually upset when I had to sell my Gneis and Freddie to get the Kurd.
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>>167125174
Yes.
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>>167125185
>No, New Mexico is extremely inaccurate. Warspite is extremely acurate. Bayern is somewhere just below warspite you mouth breathing retards.
oh so its not THE absolute worst but its guns are awful and has nearly the worst accuracy with only 8 guns that can barely hit shit at beyond 11km
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>>167125185
>Bayern is somewhere just below warspite you mouth breathing retards.
It's on the complete opposite end of the scale. It has neither the accuracy of the Warspite nor the volume of fire of the Fuso/Arizona/NM. Face it, the accuracy is trash, even at close range, short of some of the very low tier BBs it's literally the worst main battery for accuracy of any BB I've played in the entire game, and that's all 3 lines. I'm not someone sitting back and trying to snipe with it either, it's literally the epitome of "none of my shots went anywhere close to where I fired them and I'm like 10km from my target".
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>>167124935
You can brawl in Warspite. On account of the glacial turret traverse, t's more difficult than in Bayern, but you can.

Look, Bongspite is just not a very good ship. Its accuracy is not good. Its armor is not good. Its speed, range, and AA are not good. The only thing that is good on it are its secondaries. The guns hit hard, but so do Bayern's. You can brawl and set loads of fires if you're careful, but regardless of how you play the Bongspite, you're not going to be very effectual.

>>167125185
>Warspite is extremely acurate
219 meters of dispersion is extremely accurate? Don't tell me you didn't take the turret traverse mod?

>>167125347
>the Geins, Bismarck, and Freddie have all treated me very well with long range accuracy.
What bizarro game have you been playing?
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Is black going to be like the missouri or is it going to be a reward ship?
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>>167122457
barn a blind who cant hit shite

spite is better. same guns on a more accurate platform.
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>>167125491
Ranked reward for getting 5 Jolly Roger flags in a row
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>>167125480
>Warspite can brawl
>Warspite isn't accurate

this is just amazingly deluded. I bet you think Warspite has good armor too you cuck.
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>>167125491
It is a tier 9 and I really don't want to win 5 fucking seasons of ranked, so I'm going to go ahead and say Missouri. Make Tone or Kitakami the ranked reward.
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Everyone post main battery hit stats on your Bayerns.
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>>167124905
>>167122931
>>167123141
Arizona and Warspite aside, Bayern has the best T6 BB sigma. Both Fuso and NM have 1.5, it has the best long range AA and its armor (alongside it having a lower profile.) It can be pretty underwhelming when it's at long range but once you get it under 12km it can get decent salvos into enemies. Don't get me started once you're in secondary range and you can really do a lot of damage. All in all you have to get in shorter ranges than you might be comfortable with to truly make it shine.
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>>167125521
>Citadelspite
I killed my share of them in my Konig.
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>>167125491
5 seasons in a row of ranked
I'd rather kill myself
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>>167125659
Shit ship. Couldn't hit a barn if it fired from the inside.
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>>167125480
>What bizarro game have you been playing?
I have no idea, it may be also partially with me getting better, as I got Freddie around the 400 game mark, and Kurst at my 600.

>>167125670
You're probably going to call me a crazy shitter, but I really do enjoy brawling with my Dunkerque. I play it almost exactly like my Bismarck.
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>unwilling to grind out the hundreds of battles to rank out even once
>do it five fucking times

O-Oh...

I wish there were ways to earn reward ships provided you are skilled enough without being tied to the couple seasons they put on each year.
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>>167125659
I had a lot of fun with this ship.
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>>167125670
>All in all you have to get in shorter ranges than you might be comfortable with to truly make it shine.
That's all I did and it still did nothing but miss.
Having guns that hit anything was my favorite thing about moving to the Gneis, and that's not an amazingly accurate ship either.
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>>167125868
Dunk is all for memes anyway, if you don't meme with it while blasting La Marseillaise you're playing wrong
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>>167125830
yea its fucking shit

Its like a Jack of all shit, not incredibly shit at everything but just shit at everything
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>>167125830
>>167125943
Right? "Bayern"? More like Baeyern.
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>>167125868
>call me a crazy shitter
Nah, if you can reliably pull it off then go for it.
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>>167126009
https://na.warships.today/player/1015093942/Mike1Juliet

54% winrate since I started last summer the bayern is ass I hated the 80k exp grind
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>>167125868

>I really do enjoy brawling with my Dunkerque. I play it almost exactly like my Bismarck.

kek

Same here anon. I love shooting people up with my meme secondary battery that still lights them on fire 9/10.
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Well this makes it official.
Shitters hate the bayern and do bad in it
Good players love the bayern and do well in it.
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>>167126252
>I'm good
>I can control RNG and shit dispersion
>well everyone who disagrees with me must be bad!
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>>167126252

Fuck off Kraut, we're talking about Dunkerque.
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>>167126252
What a shocker.
>>
in b4 "post stats kiddo"
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>>167126140
You fellow of patrician taste.
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>>167126252
>players who do good in ships do good in ships
wow, just stop the fuckin presses
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>>167126310
Only constant anon. It's not luck dictating some of these players with high winrates also do high damage in the ship you somehow have low accuracy and a poor winrate on.
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>>167126419
>I don't like one ship in the line but do well in the rest of the line
>XDDDD SHITTER ALERT
I really don't understand what's so wrong about not liking one ship in the line.
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>>167126419
>RNG
>constant

>getting citadels from cross map isn't luck
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>>167126396

There's nothing quite like the first time you run away from a DD only to get a CQC medal while you're trying to escape.

That tail gunner set up is hilariously good at what it does.
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>>167126508
>Putting the right lead and range on salvo so that the shells even get remotely near the target ship isn't skill
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>>167126009
The accuracy of the main battery is not your problem. Look at me >>167126057. I only have 3% more accuracy than you, and yet I do 17k more damage. You are hitting things but not doing damage. That means you are aiming at the wrong spots and/or shooting at the wrong targets (i.e. angled targets).

In short, that means it's not the ship that's letting you down as far are your gunnery and game sense.

tl;dr: git gud
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>>167126631
>ahhaha I got a citadel
>I'm so skilled totoally planned that
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>>167126504
No one's ragging on you for not liking a ship in the line. People are ragging on the shitters calling a perfectly good ship shit because they're bad in it.

While I enjoy and do well in the bayern I can also admit it feels less fun than my experience in Kraut BB's to that point and after that point. It's not a bad ship, it's just less exceptional than everything else in the line.
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>>167126648
>as far are
Wow. Meant to say "as much as".
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>>167126707
So what youre saying is that I can just wildly move my mouse around and still get citpens?
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>>167126508
>Snipes from across the map
Ask me how I know you're shit.
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>>167125659
Based Baeyern
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>>167126832
>strawman: the post.
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>>167126832
>line up shot
>center mass on the ship
>oh wow a citadel, thanks RNG
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>>167126864
>>167126982
>le RNG is responsible for fucking everything XD face

The calling card of shitters. I bet there were tons of people whining about RNG at midway.
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>>167127079
You probably think AA is skill too
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>>167127079
Is the "penetration but zero damage" thing also skill?

Is RNG damage also skill? Is HE fires and Fighter's Dogfighting also skill?
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>>167127252
>Fighters dogfighting
>Not just strafing them and winning before the battle starts with skill.
>>
>planes returning to carrier
>they're out of ammo
>somehow they still kill another plane
how?
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>>167126741
I'm not. I called it shit because it wasn't a ship that I found comfy, and an overall disappointment in the line, especially being a newfriendo and enjoying other BB's in the same tier vastly more.
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>>167125150
>380 mm guns should reload faster than 356 mm guns
:thinking:
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>>167127534
Sure
My 380mm dick reloads faster than 356mm dicks
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is there are more recent one?

also

>GREG
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>>167126741
The reason people don't like the bayern's guns is because it has 33% less guns than the fuso or new mexico with similar accuracy. It suffers greatly because in terms of guns its completely outclassed, also they turn extremely slow and its easy to beat their tracking.

Secondaries are good, it has a lot of guns but all it really seems to do is occasionally light a fire, or scare off a DD, not that it matters, most of the DD's that aren't russian will try to torp you from afar which is pretty much the japanese, german and americans. Since russian DD's won't torp you they'll just shoot you from 10km and it doesn't really matter.

The AA is good, it seems to keep up with carriers of similar tier.
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>>167127781
Not to mention that it just seems to fare worse in T8 matches than something like a Fuso or Arizona, even just based on broadside weight. Which is important now because that's literally all you even end up in.
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>>167127735
No.
We're waiting on statskun for his update tonight hopefully.
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>>167127252
>Is the "penetration but zero damage" thing also skill?

>I literally dont know the game mechanics work so I blame everything I dont understand on RNG like a shitter and retard

>Fire
So the fuck what god damn. You have plenty of tools to deal with fires. If youre getting focused enough that those arent sufficient then thats a matter of skill. AKA you being retarded.

>Fighter RNG
If youre too much of a shitter not to make effective use of strafe or superior plane numbers then you're a shitter and deserve to get dicerolled into oblivion like one. Besides that, there is literally no fucking instance where inferior planes win against superior planes.
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>>167127927
okay, thanks!
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>>167127735
>some wowsfag does basic highschool stats
this is pitiful they've put this much effort into autism like this. Trying to add up all the "skill" into one number is highly erroneous and can't possibly be in any way accurate I can't wait to see that correlation coefficient
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>>167127473
Skill :^)
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>>167127961
But muh history channel showed a dauntless dive bomber can win against 3 zeroes.
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>>167127961
>>I literally dont know the game mechanics work so I blame everything I dont understand on RNG like a shitter and retard
Are you really defending penetrating hits that do zero damage? keke this is a new low.

>so what that doesn't matter hurr
oh boy it was all "skill" until you couldn't rebut so you divert and sidestep into something else entirely

>no dogfight RNG is fine just avoid it all together
nice sidestep
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>Earn 3 "Clear Sky" achievements.
Lel what?
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RiP NA.

>>167128037
>tfw out dogfighting MiGG and LaGG's in a Ju-87 in IL:2
BASED DIVE BOMBERS.
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>>167128126
Get out of here stalker
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>>167127997
You sound pretty buttblasted for little to no reason. I bet you don't even earn $300,000 starting.
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>>167128167
t. highschool diploma brainlet
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>>167127997
>Trying to add up all the "skill" into one number is highly erroneous and can't possibly be in any way accurate
You don't say?

>I can't wait to see that correlation coefficient
Correlation to what, anon? :^)
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>>167128313
>Correlation to what, anon? :^)
a correlative value between the number and other metrics such as winrate, kdr, wr, wdr, et al.
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>>167128209
You are so fuming mad right now. Is that all you could come up with to make yourself feel better?
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>>167128429
>hahaha look at my excel sheet
>this is stupid and can't be accurate by any standard
>u mad lel, umadumadumad
no this is patrick
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>>167128412
>and other metrics such as winrate
Well aren't you in luck! :^)
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>>167128412
Jake's formula is based on ship winrate proportional to the server average, with a heavier weight on solo winrate and lighter weight on divisions.

Obviously, the closest correlation would be with winrate, and not everything else that you have listed.
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>>167128532
collaboratively, not exclusively
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>>167128108
>defending penetrating hits that do zero damage
man it's no wonder youre an angry shitter. You're illiterate.
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>>167128579
>Jake's formula is based on ship winrate proportional to the server average, with a heavier weight on solo winrate and lighter weight on divisions.
what is the formula?
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>>167128495
You're pathetic, kiddo. Not only do you have zero taste in western cartoons, you also have a shortage of functional brain cells.
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>>167128412
>>167128579
>winrate
What is this, baseball? The fuck does winrate have to do with anything?

The most arbitrary and useless of stats - you might as well deduct points for detonations.
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>>167128495
Why does it bother you so much?
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>>167128649
>the game registers a "penetrating hit" but does zero damage is a valid game mechanic
>wow are you really defending this dogshit? in what world does a penetrating hit do zero damage?
>ur illiterate
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>>167128750
>objective of the game is to win
>not using the stat that measures how often a player can tip the odds in their team's favor through good or bad play
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>>167128675
He posted a handwritten image a few months ago, and I'm probably not going to be able to find it easily.
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>>167128126
just play ASS CANCER bogue :^)
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>>167128826
That's where you are wrong. The objective of the game is to have FUN. If you play to win, you are a shitter and a tryhard.
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qt daughter :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gRmxjKlNEg
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Can we make a non shitter /vg/ chat with a password for only good players?
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>>167129045
Raptor tried to do that with a chat exclusive for bluenicums, and look how well that turned out.
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>>167129106
Well we really need it. I'm sick of seeing the same shitters beg for divisions.
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>how to trigger /wowsg/
>tell them their "skill" is actually rng
>tell them their skill formula is shit
>ask for correlation because they won't be able to prove whether this is an accurate measurement for skill or not
>make fun of them for their high-school level statistics
>say their preferred bote is shit and list random reasons even if they're incorrect
>make arbitrary references to irrelevant shit
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>>167128826
Right, let me just put the entire team on my back.

Jesus Christ, fucks like you make stat keeping a joke.
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>>167128994
>If you play to win, you are a shitter and a tryhard.
wewlad

>not having fun and being gud at the same time
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>go to generaldorts channel
>nothing but the word "cuck" being thrown around every 10 seconds
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>>167129389

>Willing going to OPG streams
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>>167129045
Seconding non-shitter /vg/ chat for NA.
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>>167129329
If you're good you'll win more often.
This is a fact.
If you're a shitter you'll win less.
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>>167129045
>turns into nothing but a fight over who is and isn't a real unicum
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Guess the boot :^)
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>>167129754
I couldn't give a shit about that, I just hate when there's a single persistent shitter in chat, and prevents the good players from asking for divs. No one's going to ask for divs if shitters are asking for divs.
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>>167129240
Wow, you sure epic trolled those kiddos! Epic win!
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>>167129240
Dont forget to call Bayern shit
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After a long while of sitting around without a captain, finally brought her back into service.
Fletcher never disappoints.
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>>167129831
Yeah but you still have to have some kind of vetting process for who gets to get in, and trying to label different people as unicums and shitters causes enough shitposting as it is.
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>>167129715
>If you have premium you get more snowball effects (containers etc) and win more often .
>If you have higher fps you win more often
>If you div regularly you win more often.
>If you are a tryhard who doesnt play at peak hours you win more often

FTFY.

Fixed it for you
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IMO USN Cruisers are fine.
Started by Fog_Battleship_NCarolina, Today, 07:51 AM

What did he mean by this?
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>>167130391
Looks like he meant that USN cruisers are fine in his opinion.
Is English not your first language?
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>>167130391
>USN cruisers are fine
>Warspite has good armor
>Warspite can brawl
>Bayern is shit
>High tiers are fun

when will the lies stop
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>>167130246
Its still better than seeing a single shitter beg for divs in chat and no one else being able to ask for divs.

I really wish shitters in WoWsg would know their place.
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>>167127473
>how?
Either a bug or the ammo count doesnt reflect the rear gunner's infinite ammo.
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Am I dumb for just picking CE for my first 4 point skill?
I wanted it for so long but I never bothered to stick with one boat long enough for a 15 point captain.
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>>167131007
No it's great on just about everything.
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>>167130391
>>167130853
IJN DDs are OP.
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>>167126648
>shooting at the wrong targets (i.e. angled targets).

Because with the Bayern's speed and gun traverse you always have a easy choice between a angled and unagled target, right ?
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>>167130895
There's nothing wrong with having shitters asking for divs desu.
If you want to get carried by some other unicums just sent them invites or messages asking for a div.
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>>167131135
I can do it. The rest of us can do it. Why can't you?
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>>167131135
Bayern is faster than other T6 battleships
Its gun traverse is poor but shouldn't be a factor if you're not shit.
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>>167124107
Skill build on that Shchors please ?
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>>167131293
There is litterally everything wrong with shitters begging for divs.

Decent players like myself won't ask for divs when shitters are because of the shitposting retribution we'll get.
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Montana is the strongest BB.
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>>167131405
>Decent players like myself
t. carried by other unicums
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I like inviting less good but still basically competent players into my unicum divs.
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>>167122108
This will never happen if you hail Nebuched
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>>167131396
Using Witherer+Arsonist flags too.
Haven't decided yet if I'm going to spec for IFHE, but I still got a long way to go until I get the points anyway.
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>>167131639
same lol
that's why i always invite you
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>>167120594
>61 on kimono sleeve
mfw that detail, I love it.
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>>167131639
>tfw incompetent and play solo
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>>167131743
Unless youre as shit awful as Akios or Arlios or whatever that guys name was, youre probably in my definition of "basically competent"
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>>167132046
>2016+1
>Not being Warbeasty
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>>167132046
>Not earning shekels by being a Twitch whore
SMFH
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thats right
be a good DD slut and smoke your BB master and watch and i shoot my 406mm freedom shells into your CA whores citadel you naughty shortstacked ship
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>>167132251
>referring to freedom shells in socialist metric units
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>>167132251
This is why I smoke my friends and not you.
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>>167132046
>tfw orange on Statskun's list
A-am I good enough sempai?
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I love you /wowsg/!
Your favorite bote is beautiful and so are you. I hope you're getting comfy games and having a good time sailing.
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>>167131624
>59% solo isn't good enough to bitch about shitters
I don't know what you faggots want anymore.
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>>167132647
>he's not +60% solo
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>>167132534
>tfw not on Stat-kun's list


btw, let's Bully this person >>167132572
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>>167132361
>Not using metric so you can use bigger numbers when referring to penis size.
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>in muh DD
>5% chance of magazine exploding
>get to CV, about to launch torps
>get shot by a lucky long distance by a single shot from a BB
>instantly bamboozled
8/10 rage
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Should I take RPF on soviet destroyer?
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>>167135519
You should take RPF on my dick, so that you know exactly which direction to face when you have your mouth gaping wide open.
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>>167135519
>Taking New fag trap
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>>167135519
Advanced firing training and concealment expert are more essential skills.
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>>167135719
>VMF DDs
>CE
>>
>Game is a clear loss
>55% shitter tells you to watch vids to learn to play
>Post battle results
>He's in the bottom half of the team
>During the battle he fully exposed his side to an enemy fuso, because he somehow thought facing down 6 enemy boats with firespam cruisers was going to help him.

Reported for poor play and misbehavior in chat
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>>167136113
If you disregard the Last Stand meme and just take PM and prem repair, you have one point extra.

I'd take RDF before CE too, btw.
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>>167136113
>>167136260
desu I only took CE because I enjoy the gremyaschy more than other slav DD's, and CE drops detection to 6.1 on her. once the split happens I'll probably sell them all.

I loved the Kiev when it was new, but I don't find her fun any more.
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>>167131659
>Haven't decided yet if I'm going to spec for IFHE
You have the doubloons to retrain if it doesn't work out.
That said, I wonder if extra HE pen is worth 4 points and a fire chance debuff.
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>>167136482
>I loved the Kiev when it was new, but I don't find her fun any more.
Maybe wait and see what happens to Kiev after split.
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>>167136260
>disregard Last Stand
>take PM
Nigga what? Two different tiers.

Unless you are building EM for gremy LS is literally the only worthwhile T2 skill Jack is still shit. SHIIIIIT

Pic related is top tier slavboat build
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>>167131659

Why do you have 51k doubloons?
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>>167136589
Yeah I'm going to fill my port slots with all the DD's getting split. I'll probably keep tier 9 kiev unless she's garbage and will never see play. I just really enjoy having utility torpedoes on my destroyers that I can make people panic with and maybe get some hits and flooding.
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>>167136745
>I just really enjoy having utility torpedoes on my destroyers that I can make people panic with and maybe get some hits and flooding.

Then you are going to love the split line until people drill all the new VMF torp ranges into their memory.
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>be bluefag
>don't play in divs, because they don't stick together or strategize anyway
>don't play team battles/ranked, because grinding hundreds of matches for r1 is too much effort
>not ST
>tfw will never have any of the ranked/team/ST ships
>tfw whenever ktkm/tone come back they will probably be one of those three

It hurts to live
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>>167136684
>Unless you are building EM for gremy LS is literally the only worthwhile T2 skil
I prefer High Alert so I can finish off a napalm spammer without burning up, or survive pesky db's/secs
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>>167132687
>>
>Launch torpedoes around an island
>Get spotted
>Oh well they probably won't hit now
>Devastating strike
>First blood
never gets old.
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>https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/forever-alone/
>That URL
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>>167138439
brutal
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>one match our CV cries how unbalanced MM is and goes afk
>the next match their CV whines and kills himself with his own torps

Can someone give me a quick summary about CV's and why they are so dramatic about it?

Also
>>167101978
What's up with Taihou?

Don't make me play those shit branches just to know what's good and what's bad.
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>>167138439
I'm curious what premiums they'll sell on those weekends but I have a feeling they'll just be old ones.
Maybe Mutsu on Japanese weekend? But doubt it.
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>>167138829
Of course they'll be old ones. Not at a discount either, just a bundle to pay extra for your digital ship.
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>>167138594
>What's up with Taihou?
Taiho gets the 232 'lol i delet u' setup that allows you to kill whatever you click on, unless it's in the middle of a 6 ship deathblob.
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>>167138594
CV's are notorious autists and drama whores because their style of play attracts /gsg/ tier armchair autists. Not every CV is a royal faggot, just a good number of them. Very few are actually "good" and most just ride the wave of overpowered high tier plons and shit enemy players.

Taiho is overpowered as fuck, as are most high tier IJN CV's. It's a known issue that wargoyming refuses to openly admit. All we can do is wait for the eventual CV rework. The problem with CV's is the vast discrepancy in AA effectiveness and plon value. Early on AA is arguably too effective and can render mid tier CV's worthless with a good death ball. However later tiers don't give a fuck because their plons are strong and they have so many of them it's literally impossible to run out in a standard match even if they actively welp every squadron immediately on every cooldown. This makes AA mostly ineffective at high tiers along with sheer volume of strike aircraft. Most will get through and deliver their payload.
The second part of the problem is that the loadout options on USN CV's are garbage.
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>>167139135
All CV players are autists and drama whores though.
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>>167139179
That's a generalization. 99% of them sure, but there's 1% out there that aren't. You just never notice them because they're not autistic drama whores.
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Is anyone else receiving invitations from Greg? I always get those before I load in.
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>>167093837
Funny story, the Nips had such shit damage and fire control because they were unwilling to compensate design philosophy.

British Carriers had armored hangers and reinforced decks but slower deployments and plane capacity as a result.

American Carriers had unarmored decks but open hangers to allow easy repair and fire control. As well as have a large capacity/fast deployment.

Nips thought it was a good idea to have closed hangers and unarmored decks so they could cheat durability and capacity (deployment still sucks but w/e). All this did was amplify the damage from dive bombers because they would go through the deck and the thick walls meant the energy couldn't escape.

It also doesn't help that their crew were ultra specialized and dedicated fire control teams would often die and they would burn like tinder with no way for main crews to access fires in the depths of the ship.

The Japs really weren't prepared for a post WW1 Navy from the ground up.
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>>167138923
>>167139135

>This makes AA mostly ineffective at high tiers

Then what's the point of those 'muh AA' builds and people "escorting" BB's?
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>>167139646
Kancolle doujins seem to confirm this
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>>167139646
Fuck off burgerboo. IJN damage control was just as good as everyone else. Why else do you think it took so much to sink the Yamato?
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>>167139736
Escorts work at tier 5, 6, 7. At 8 it drops off and at 9 its pretty much worthless. AA builds are a meme that people push in mid tiers on carrier weekends.
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>>167140113
AA Escort Cleveland is a good way to farm karma points though.

Just spec of AA, and follow the nearest IJN BB or ships with weak AA.
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>>167136515
IFHE is automatically worth it on small guns with a good base fire % that's really not affected by 3%.

That pretty much describes russian cruisers exactly.
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>>167138439
>Challenge of the torpedo polisher
>Burnin' in the deep
>Tickets to the gun show
this is one big masturbation joke right?
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>>167139736
>Then what's the point of those 'muh AA' builds
A Soviet or US CA specced for AA will generally cause an intelligent enemy CV to just bomb something else.
AA spec CAs are like umbrellas, if you bring them thee will be no planes near you.

Some DDs can also do a 'fuck you CV' build that essentially baits the enemy CV ino attacking them, followed by them popping barrage.

>and people "escorting" BB's?
Put such a CA next to a Hotel or Monty and the enemy CV will just fuck off and bomb something else.

Especially Moskva with the 8.2 km heavy AA range is great at this, but as a rule a CA 'escorting' a BB is useless.
If the CA is doing it right, he just fights the enemy while not wandering too far away from the BB.

Please note that a lot of this is psychology.
Unless the Taiho or Hakuryu is a fucking moron he can still cause a lot of damage to the CA or the BB the CA is trying to protect. This will cause most of his strike to die after dropping, but who cares.

tl;dr: AA mostly doesn't really work, speccing for it is still idiocy. certain exceptions exist
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>Playing Minotaurd
>Can't pen a New Orleans that's bow on to me
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>>167140643
You just need to git gud.
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>>167140643
shoot the superstructure
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>>167138829
Probably LOL Oleg makes NA debut.
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>>167139842
>Why else do you think it took so much to sink the Yamato?

The fact that 70,000 tons of warship left this world in under 2 hours is enough of a joke. Nips couldn't have done worse if they filled the hoses with petrol.
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>>167141053
I'd like you to point to any USN Ships that took a 1/4th as much punishment.
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>>167141162
Any ship at Pearl Harbor.
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>>167141202
>USS Arizona
>one bomb hit XDDD We done senpai
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>>167140548
>well written, long explaination of what's up

Appreciate it, buddy.
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>>167141247
Arizona took 4 direct and 3 indirect (splash) bombs.

She went up when the last one hit her magazine.
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>>167141610
>last one hit her magazine

FUN AND ENGAGING
>>
>start game
>2 afk BBs in my first game
>get 200k HC anyway
>lose
>close game
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>>167141610
Non american citation needed.
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>based Flamu tells people the hard truth
>still using the same autistic Hello Hello intro like a minecraft LPer

Really does fire up the neurons.
>>
Why is DM the only Tier IX Cruiser with 3 hulls?
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>>167141053
Ironically, you managed to point to teh one thing that was not a big factor in Yamato's sinking.

They used specialized firefighting teams led by specially trained firfighting officers. If these guys were occupied or became casualties, teh ship was literally fucked because everyone else only had basic firefighting training, and many new and lower-ranking sailors actually had none at all because they were supposed to learn the basuics hands-on while onboard, instead of during basic training.

The IJN had shitty AA guns, shitty group AA tactics (i.e., they literally had none, they just told each ship to maneuver independently), shitty damage control practices especially when it came to leak control (all they did was 'close off the compartments that are flooding, then counterflood to keep the ship on an even keel', and they literally kept doing that until the ship sank because it had taken on too much water)

The biggest and most important difference, howeer, was that USN damage control had tha chance to apply the lessons they learned early in the war in the ships that were under contruction and the training for the crews.
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>>167141746
what did "based" flamu say?
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>>167141914
>citation needed.webm.mp4.jpg.url
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>>167142014
For what, specifically?
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>>167142061
Everything you said is wrong nigger. Literally everything.
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>>167141746
What's the "Truth" you're referring to? Is it that all of his captain skills are patented and you must pay a royalty to use it?
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>>167142096
How can that be, it is copied from official USN documents and published academic works ;^)
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loving that EU meta desu
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>>167142429
And hence why you're wrong on every part of that.
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>>167142572
>official US documents are wrong
Off to the Freedom Camps with him.
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Loving this ship desu, is Nagato a wrecking ball as well?
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>>167142429
Official USN documents also perpetuated the fateful 5 minutes bullshit for the better part of a century.
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>>167143224
I would say IJN BBs are a good climb after another but drops off at Izumo and climbs again at Yamato.
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>>167143224
>HOTEL
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>>167142465
>EU

literallywho
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>>167142465
>full HP tirpitz in the back behind D
>"huh I wonder what stats he has"
>2700 battles
>700 rating

w e w
e
w
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>>167143737
Why is /wowsg/ so obsessed with stats while being in denial about it?
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>>167143771
There's no real denial.
We enjoy making fun of shitters who play terribly, as in have no clue how to play their boat after thousands of battles and actively harm your chance of winning by being on your team. Personally I have zero problem with anyone who at least has a 50% WR as long as they don't act like a complete faggot, because by maintaining 50 they're at least neutral weight and I can most of the time not have to worry about carrying them excessively. I also have no problem with new sub 1000 battle players with bad stats as long as they make an effort to learn and don't act like faggots.
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>>167141907
historicals?
The more likely answer is all Tier 9 cruisers have 3 upgrades, fire control, hull, and either guns or torpedoes. DM has neither torpedoes nor guns so it gets a third hull.

Also
>Spec my Cleveland captain to test RPF
>Never get around to it
>Forget I did it
>Need to pay mad dosh to spec back to AA build for karma farm

MISTAKES WERE MADE
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>>167143771
>in denial
>literal retards throw $60 at wargoyming to drag down the team because they can't even be bothered to look up a guide/video on how to play it

I like answering questions here, ingame or even on plebbit. People who want to learn, shall do so. But you can't tell me you are are too dense to grasp a 50% WR after nearly 3000 games even with the highest tier premium botes. (And, of course, shitty average stats overall)
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>>167143984
>>167144994
I'm not talking about shitters, I'm talking about everyone's obsession with stats and the constant denial about it.
>>
>>167145242
What denial?
I think what you're seeing as denial is commonly known as different posters. Contrary to popular belief, a single board or thread is not a hivemind.
>>
It's always shitters and borderline unicum players whining about stats here.
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>>167131652
But he doesn't even exist?
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>>167145438
t. average fag in between those two groups
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>>167143232
A bunch of post-factual books based off ony japanese liar (whose lies were well-known in Japan to be just that, lies told so that his former CO would not lose face) are not the NTMJ reports about the loss of Yamato, Japanese DC practices and training, and Japanese firefighting systems and procedures.

Here, read away.
http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/primary_documents/gvt_reports/USNAVY/USNTMJ%20Reports/USNTMJ_toc.htm

S-06 and S-84 are relevant here.
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>>167145510
There is no between those two groups.
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So I've been in my Friedrich for a bit now, had ~20 games in it. I had a pretty good understand of the limits of the Bismarck, but the Friedrich is throwing me off a bit.

I'm talking about what kind of caliber of guns I'm vulnerable to. Sometimes I'm at a good angle, and suddenly the guy gets me with a 20k volley. Other times, I'm showing almost full broadside and just shattering their shells unless they hit the waterline. What's a good frame of mind to keep with the Friedrich? What's my worst enemies? I'm typically overly aggressive and love pushing caps, but I'm slowly trying to play smarter.
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>>167145637
Stats
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>>167145731
It's really weak against plunging BB AP shells, and you now have a pretty long bote as well
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First kraken! This is a fun game.

Also, I'm 4 eps into Kancolle. Why did they go with this forced drama bullshit? Is the manga better?
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>>167147029
I heard drinking bleach is better than both desu.
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>>167147029
us cruiser line is a good choice. especially since the higher tier ships of that line re about to get buffed
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>>167145731
If you're facing USN BBs with floaty shells (NC and Iowa), try closing the distance as their plunging fire can wreck havoc on your upper armor belt. Remember, the greater the distance between you and a USN BB, the more dangerous they are.
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>>167147029
Episode 6 is pure healing anon, make it at least that far.
>>
People should play more IJN DDs.
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>>167147362
I've actually been having a lot of fun with akatsuki.
She's very ladylike and the detection isn't all that bad once you have CM and camo.
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>>167147484
You still get outspotted by everything not called RU DDs or the Mahan.
>>
WHATS HAPPENING?

WHY CANT I LOG IN TO SEE MY BOTES?
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>>167147667
Maintenance.
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>Myoko runs full speed into the enemies in the first 3 minutes
>gets erased
>ask him what that was
>he says he's 61 y/o

What a moral dilemma
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>>167147712
will my pepsi be fun to play after this?
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>>167147804
i think that is below AFK winrate
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>>167147804
And what do you want us to do about it?
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>>167147804
Gotta hand it to him though. He can still have fun playing a PC game at that age while my dad (64) is totally computer illiterate.
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WTF this is so true
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>>167147818
I don't think it's the patch
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>tfw no missions to get russian captains since I started playing even though I need them the most
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So I already miss the old captain skill system. Mainly in that the respec cost now is downright draconian.
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>>167148142
me on the right
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>>167149718
Tbh that's the only change that I really hate.
Most of the other stuff is okay, or at least not too bad, but jacking up the respec cost to silly amounts again is dumb.
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>>167147818
She will be a good girl and have 12.8km base concealment.
With concealment expert and camo you will have around 10.8km detection, meaning you can jump out of invisibility and shove freedom shells right into unsuspecting cruisers citpussies.
And most importantly you can now disengage.
So yeah, I think she will be fun, if only WG gave her 30mm citadel roof.
I personally just want Gearing reload on T9-10 CA secondaries, combined with 6km base range
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Why didn't any of you tell me that the Chapayev was this much fun?
I'm enjoying her more than my Kutuzov just because bullying DDs with this giant radar range is such a great time.
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>Put AA consumables on
>No CVs
>Take them off to fight DDs better
>Suddenly CVs
They should let you pick before a match because this is fucking stupid.
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>>167150331
maybe git gud
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>>167150331
Imagine the outcry.
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>>167150331
There was an interview in which they said it was planned to let all cruisers who had to choose between defensive AA and hydro pick both instead. Apparently that's happening sometime between now and the Italian navy.
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>>167150331
div with a cv
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>>167150432
>div with a cv
If only you could find one.
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>>167150432
but all CV players are massively autistic
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>>167150432
Check out the /vg/ chat. Not everyone is an autist that is afraid to div with new people because of "muh precious stats".
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>>167150428
Everyone should get repair at a certain tier too. From just playing bong cruisers it adds so much when you can leverage your health pool more effectively and you dont have to be terrified of fires.
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>2000+ games solo
>Only blue WTR

H-how to join BOTES SEA
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>>167150585
Just message benis when he's online?
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>>167150585
Just ask? They're the one that's not full.
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>>167150623
I'm pretty sure players don't even have to be online if you want to message them, they see your message once they log in.
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>>167150710
The chat bug is still there and your message might not even appear.
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>>167150710
Considering how broken the chat system is I wouldn't count on it working.
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Would sending a PM on the WoWS forums work? Surely that isn't bugged.
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This is the best warship ever built.
Fact.
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>>167136515
can you hit specific part of the enemy and doesnt use 200mm?

150mm he can only pen superstructure, with ifhe it can pen bow and prow of most ships. if you suddenly stopped doing damage thanks to saturation you can use ifhe or ap on bow and prow of the enemy

thats about it. its a signifcant gain on 150mm, not so much but still a gain on 125mm
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>>167151283
Cute bote
Would eat
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>>167151283
But did it sink even one ship?
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>>167151386
Irrelevant and wrong.
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>>167129045
If you're talking about in-game chat, no. We used to have a pw on the EU chat but it's so bugged that you have to enter it after almost every match. It's not worth it.

>>167131007
>Cases in which CE is a bad pick for a first L4 skill
Typical VMF DDs
Secondary-spec BBs
Fuso and Izumo

>>167131659
>SI
Spec out of that and get IFHE with your next point. Try it out on the PT if you're not sure.

>>167135519
>>167136482
After AFT. CE is a good choice for Gremy and Leningrad and the tech-tree ships up to Ognevoi, but after that it's a waste.

>>167136684
>Slavishly copying the furfag
I can't understand why he doesn't see any value in RL on VMF DDs. It lets you push enemy DDs out of the game with such ease it's obscene. Here's my build: http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/1000000000000001000010100000101019

>>167143224
I much preferred Fuso desu. That weight of broadside just can not be bargained with.

>>167147362
WG should raise them from the dead first.

>>167147484
>0.1 km less detectable than Leningrad, with camo and without CE
balansd

>>167150428
They tested that on PT ages ago but decided not to implement it.
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How many team kills can I do before I'm banned? Feeling removing the CV menace once and for all. These people need to stop using these ships or else.
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>>167151664
I suspect SI is on there because it's also a Kutuzov captain and planned to be a Chappy-Moskva captain, not a permanent Shchors only captain. Those ships get great use out of SI.
I'm using both SI and IFHE on mine (even though I gave up DE) and it works great, especially now that I've moved them to the Chappy.
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>>167151753
>thinking TK'ing a few CV players is going to change literally anything
Are you some kind of retard?
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>>167151283
>>167151350
Its Sushi, of course she didn't sink even one ship
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>>167144994
>was absolute shitter
>got aoba before furrytako was buffed
>learned to play on it
>orange to green in less that 120 battles
>time passes
>got ibuki
>loved tier 9 gameplay
>ibuki took me to light blue
>121 battles, exactly 1 more that aoba
>less that 900 battles total today
feels good to be a functional human being

if only i could grasp this "friends" thing.
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>>167151827
Do you have a better idea? These fuckers need to pay. Playing the easiest class in the game, picking and removing any ship they want, and lose nothing for it? How is that fair? Bad enough WG gimps AA for every ship that's not American. CVs are an abortion on this game and need to be purged.
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>>167151931
>gimps AA for every ship that's not American
With T7-9 cruisers being powercreeped in AA by VMF I doubt this statement.
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>>167151931
This tbqh CVnts should be gassed
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How many team kills can I do before I'm banned? Feeling removing the DD menace once and for all. These people need to stop using these ships or else
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>>167151931
>>167152129

My AA spec Minotaur upsets them enough, dont worry about it.
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>>167152167
>or else
or else what?
You shoot them until the reflect damage kills you?
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>>167152285
Do you have a better idea? These fuckers need to pay. Playing the easiest class in the game, picking and removing any ship they want, and lose nothing for it? How is that fair? Bad enough WG gimps radar for every ship that's not American. DDs are an abortion on this game and need to be purged.
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>>167151664
Why would CE be a bad pick for Izumo?
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>>167152370
My AA spec Minotaur upsets them enough, dont worry about it.
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>>167152167
How many team kills can I do before I'm banned? Feeling removing the CA menace once and for all. These people need to stop using these ships or else
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>>167152370
we have a new ebin pasta, rejoice everyone!
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>>167152441
There are people out there who don't believe that BBs should go a stealth build.
Even on something with as shitty concealment as the Izumo going full stealth helps a bunch.
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>DD trying to rush my NM within 5km
>broadsides me to launch torps
>shoot full salvo at him
>5 overpen memes for 6k
>gangbanged by torps

>trying to rush a Bayern with full hp as DD
>oneshot

????????????????????
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>>167152370
>Bad enough WG gimps radar for every ship that's not American.
Doesn't Soviets have better Radar anyway?

>picking and removing any ship they want, and lose nothing for it? H
They lose quite a lot, sometimes their lives if not a good portion of their hp.
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>>167151931
I upset CVs quite often just playing a BB.
>oh look, a juicy broadside BB
>ah the CV is dropping torps, but let's fire anyway
>triple citadel, sinks instantly
>CV uses the censored cursing key
>see a cruiser also under attack by torps
>finish it off
>CV proceeds to spam the key for 5 minutes

>sailing forth, enemy CV is spotted somehow
>is broadside towards an island
>26.6km range, hell yeah, mangle him good
>he sends planes in panic to me
>there's a Montana and Des Moines next to me, his planes get fucked
>Montana joins in shooting once close enough, down he goes
>spend rest of match raging about BBs

Makes up for all those times they decide to delete me with tons of torps.
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>>167152761
>he fell for the rushing BBs meme
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>>167152761
you angled on a dd. you got memed upon

when a shell touches your naughty spots it has a set distance before exploding. a angled dd will ensure the shell detonates inside it

i laffed hard when i noticed certain thin cls could get overpen from bbs when broadsiding because of this
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How do I play Farragut? I feel like a RU DD that gets a small amount of concealment in exchange for all my gun range and damage.
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>WG bothered to put description onto this
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>>167152761
>He actually fell for the suicide run meme

Everybody point and laugh at this hotshot! Come on!
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>>167152975
learn how to use islands to wreck people, there are a lot of situations where you can shit on someone even while spotted. Another valuable skill is not sitting in your smoke like a retard, because smart players will simply torp you. To that end, lay a long line of smoke instead of just sitting still and constantly maneuver if you really need to stay in your smoke.
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>new Eurobeat video
>this shows up

Is he one of us?
>>
>>167152924
Not him but it feels hella weird as someone who used to play nothing but BBs and cruises to start playing DDs now where being broadside on actually increases survivability sometimes.
>>
>>167153103
>14880 damage

Eurobeat is an anti-Semite. brb contacting my nearest Israeli embassy, I need to put a stop to this before it gets out of hand.
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>>167152975
Get in close to other DDs, don't open up until you're actually about to get spotted, stay close to them and just machine gun them to death with your peashooters, especially around caps. Also learn how to use your smoke, because it's stupidly useful both for you and for your team. If you get CE you can also invisifire decently, and between that, playing around terrain, and generally being hard to hit, I actually rarely use smokes for myself anymore outside of contesting caps.
>>
>>167152441
>>167152557
Izumo's stealth is so shitty that by the time you're far enough away to fade into concealment with a stealth build, you're effectively disengaged anyway. It's a waste of points and upgrades.

>>167152975
>in exchange for all my gun range
Doesn't Farragut have the greatest gun range of any DD? It's a bit beside the point though, as USN DDs are all about contesting camps and engaging at close range. Bully enemy IJN DDs, create ambushes around islands and assist allies with smoke. Taking the C-hull with Def AA is not a bad idea either, particularly if you div with a CV.
>>
>>167153240
Taking the C hull on any of the mid tier US DDs is a pretty bad idea. DF is nice and all but at the end of the day you want the extra gun a hell of a lot more than you want it.
>>
>>167153092
>>167153232
>>167153240
I am relatively good at contesting caps it's just that after that I feel useless because other caps have either CAs or t8 DDs in them ,I'll use your tips and try helping my team more.
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>>167153131
Eurobeat's muslim, this shouldn't surprise you.
>>
>>167153549
Oy gevalt, this is worse than I thought

Why does a muslim have a more popular youtube channel than our controlled boy iChase?
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>>167153645
Oil money, I tell yah
>>
>>167153645
Because he thinks a 25 second intro is a great idea in 2012+5.
>>
>>167154001
but Jingles has a 15 second intro, and he's the most popular of them all!

should I invest my poison hedge funds into propping Arlios into youtube famedom as our secret puppet? we can instill his viewers with the right kind of "thinking".
>>
>>167153518
I'd say this for just about any class, but diving really does help too, especially in US DDs.
You have such great tools that you can use to help divmates, and in return they can help support you much more effectively, it's why they've become my favorite ships in the game now that I'm diving with people a lot.
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>>167153506
The turret you lose has shitty arcs so it rarely comes into play aside from kiting scenarios. It's an ok choice for Farragut.
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>>167154246
>a literal newfag from 16' summer
>our guy

fuck this gen
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Tonight is a good night. Diving with SEA Botes is pretty fun.
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>>167154406
>CTATNCTNKA

I know your tricks, Ivan.
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>>167138439
Their URL guy is a god amongst men and has been for some time.
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>>167139135
>they have so many of them it's literally impossible to run out in a standard match
hahaha, no
>>
>>167154387
If you're going to go for the "newfag vs oldfag" game, the only "oldfags" that exist would be boogbot, imtheseeker and benlisquare who would occasionally post WoWS closed beta screenshots back in /WoTG/, because there wasn't a split-off /WoWSG/ back then.

A tiny handful of 4 or 5 people, sure is fucking exciting huh. A gen full of "oldfags" would be boring as utter fuck.
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>when you push into a cap in your Friedrich and brawl down three DDs and a Zao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7pA2iyCfKQ

How can one bote be this much righteous fun
>>
>>167154731
I don't think he's complaining about newfags but about Arlios being one and shilling his videos on the first day.
>>
>>167154731
shit, I forgot about type59_chomp

dammit, how could I forget about the most important guy

when WoWS CBT hit, chain_chomp posted like 9 screenshots a day in /WoTG/
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>>167154867
>tfw only came to /wowsg/ because someone linked it on /a/
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>>167154783
Did Arlios actually shill his videos here, though?

I was under the impression that he would just ask for people to play with here, and then shill his videos on reddit and on the wows forums.
>>
>>167154947
>Did Arlios actually shill his videos here
Yes.
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>>167154731
>tfw not an oldfag because I've only been here since early CBT
This is what I get for not sticking around /wotg/
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>>167154759
>when your Zao sets three Friedrichs and a Yamato on fire permanently and you get a Witherer for your superior Skill™

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyRhn0qqQsY

الموت للسائقين الطفل حربية
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>>167155085
Mayhem?

ss4rafi?
>>
>>167155156
No. I'm a literally who.
>>
>>167155085
The thread was up for a few days during the Beta Weekend. I remember coming here.
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>DD gets killed early on as usual
>team is unorganized and doesnt push for anything as usual
>spearhead as usual
>shot go everywhere as usual
>get dresden'd as usual
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>>167155728
div with super super unicorn DD then
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>>167153518
save smoke for the cas to kill the enemy dds and cas
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>>167154986
hello i am a arlios fan and i do that for him

hes a perfect wowsg unicum and he deserves the views. its WTR not PR ok? praise jegus
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>>167151283
10/10 would eat those fish roe secondaries
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>>167151664
>Cases in which CE is a back pick for a first L4 skill
>Fuso
oops
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>>167156156
You are the reason I have never watched any of that faggots videos and hope he dies.
>>
where is my SEA chinkposting?
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>>167156695
What kind of shitposting do you want?
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>>167156737
I never see anyone post Asashio. She's a cutie. I'd also take Yubari
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>>167156795
I've tainted your honor student.
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Go to bed, SEA.
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>>167156912
Anon no. She's a good girl.
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>>167157069
>Asashio
>good girl
>>
New fred

>>167157397
>>167157397
>>167157397
>>
>Just notice you cant say Essex in chat

WG really hate US CV?
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>>167157464
You can't say hair and bear as well.
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