/ps2g/ - Planetside 2 General

why still no pastebin

you're making us look bad

>>167060324
write some fag

Counter intelligence is actually almost useful

resposting for why are shotguns so terrible? Is it the netcode making pellets get lost? Do shotties with more pellets perform better? Is there stat tracking per weapon?

>>167063182
They're terrible because enough people complained that shotguns were killing them at close range, probably mostly Heavy Assault mains crying.

Even before the recent nerfs they were terrible.

>>167063182
Shotguns got nerfed to absolute fuck by wrel. Saltyvets bitched that shotguns could actually kill them, and wrel listened to them and ignored all feedback contrary to what the saltyvets said.

So now they're completely worthless instead of mostly worthless. The fucking magscatter is a better shotgun than most of the actual shotguns now.

>>167063305
>>167063350
t. 0.5 ivi kdr

>>167063350
>>167063305
What I'm getting from all this is people getting confused about what weapons are meant to do which job, shotguns are for clearing close quarters rooms etc but people run in with LMGs and rifles and expect to do well.

It's almost like people don't understand you use the SMGs for shooting down hallways because of their crazy ROF while you use shottys for breaching doorways because they're designed to 1h1k enemies at 1m range.

In other words shitters using 1 size fits all rifles and complaining when their swiss army knives don't excel in every capacity.

>>167064137
;p;

>>167064137
And the dev listens to them.

>>167064137
The fact is, LMG's and rifles work as well as or better than a shotgun or SMG for pretty much anything/everything.

LMG's especially are the do-everything gun. Accurate enough in many cases to be assault rifles in their own right. The only thing a shotgun could do better than an LMG was the odd OHK that was even less common than a sniper OHK, and now may as well be virtually non-existent.

Shitters whined about shotguns because they couldn't learn how to deal with them.

>>167065254
>LMG's especially are the do-everything gun.
Wrong, every LMG in the game is beyond hopeless when it comes to hip-fire. Rifles with good hip-fire are pretty bad mid-range. Starter carbines with laser sights would be the closest thing to a jack of all trades.

>>167065348
You must have missed the fact that the shotguns are all useless with hipfire now. You have to ADS to kill shit.

>>167065348
>Wrong, every LMG in the game is beyond hopeless when it comes to hip-fire.
>Rifles with good hip-fire are pretty bad mid-range.

the orion contradicts those statements dickslurperVS

>>167065369
My comment wasn't about shotguns. I know they fucked them up when they were already bad.

>>167065416
Nah, Orion and most fast firing LMGs have good enough hip fire to be worthwhile at maybe 2m but beyond that you're always going to ADS. Starting carbines on the other hand can hip fire across the room with a laser and still retain good enough mid range accuracy.

I'm not saying the carbines are better, just that they are probably the most flexible weapons in the game.

>>167065523
lol

>>167065681
lol

>>167063182
I'm sure it's something with net code. The engine can't properly register multiple hits in the same server tick in bigger fights.

>>167064137
>run in with LMGs and rifles and expect to do well.

But I do well :^)

>>167065416
... JUST EVERYONE BE VANU SO THEN HOPEFULLY SONY OR DAYBREAK OR WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY ARE CALLED...

>>167066167
...CAN HAVE A GAY ORGY AT WATERSONS

>>167066167
>tfw you share an outfit with this person

>finish auraxing gauss saw
>genuinely sad
At first I hated it
but then I came to love it. what a lovely weapon.

>>167066703
It's really missing something to make it great.

Just something about it feels completely off. Like you're trying to plough a field with a spade instead of a hoe.

>>167066015
So its what I thought earlier, the game tries to computate hits in a stack and the more shots fired the more work done. It would be down purely to experimentation now whether you want to use a shotty that fires 12 pellets or the 4 pellet shotty to determine which one actually kills what it hits.

>NC inf jumps around the corner
>DINK dead before my ADS goes up
>BR1 0 directive bolt driver
:^)

>>167067025
I bet this is why really high RPM guns don't work in the game - they actually stop dealing damage reliably past a certain point

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>>167067412
>round corner
>nobody there
>BLAM
>wtf
>see guy warp in while on the death screen thing
>killed by BR 100-120 russian with NS-15M

>>167067412
I actually wouldn't care if all the cheaters in the game were BR1 characters; at least it'd mean bans are being done.

Instead we've got pages of people running around all day with aimbots and lagswitches and nothing done about them. I want a fucking purge already. Cleanse the cheater filth, suffer not the lagswitcher to live

hello

>>167068769
Hi There!

>>167068769
>>167069164
t. 1.5 ivi kdr

>>167068769
Hello! :3

precision bomber or high g for solo tankbuster lib?

>>167069539
t. Airnigger/boltfaglord main

>>167069653
no, 15 ivi kdr medic main

>>167069635
suicide

>>167070123
>suicide

Solo tankbuster lib usually means he is removing spawncamping HE scum

>>167070192
yeah, and bolt shit usually means he's countersniping, right?

>>167070456
:-----------------D

Why is VS INF so much more enjoyable than the other two? Is it the butts? I can't stand playing TR INF because you look like a deformed turtle and the semi-autos are hideous as well. NC INF reminds me of all the boltshitters that I hate so I hate myself for playing, but there's something comfortable about playing VS INF.

>>167071419
nc inf has best butt
also nc has cutest voice

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>>167071419
What do you fucking mean? TR INF has the best sniper rifle

>>167071472
True true I do find Higbys soothing voice to be a bonus, but I play with voices turned off because of all the annoying other voices. Also VS have the best butts come on now.

>>167071574
>Also VS have the best butts come on now.
No, they are slightly more precisely textured, but overall uglier and smaller

>>167071775
It's the shape that matters. VS butts are round and defined.

>>167070123
>no, 15 ivi kdr medic main

t. 3% medic time played, 97 % infiltrator

>>167072972
wow rude

who is cassandra miles and why is he always angry at me for playing heavy?

>>167073976
but true

>>167071548
TR semi snipers are really ugly. So are most of them in fact and I'm a TR main. But it's not like the other factions are much better. NC are straight up nerf guns and I'm surprised there hasn't been a lawsuit and all VS guns look the same.

>>167074139
vs guns look like dildos

>>167057327
good morning memer! :3c

Hello. Former ESP hack user here.
Any good hacks available for this game? I'd like to come back just to curbstomp everyone by prefiring before rounding corners.

>>167075271
google recursion

>>167075271
>prefiring before rounding corners
>not while rounding corners
are you that guy that could barely manage 3 kdr while hacking from a while back? lmao

>>167075330
I'll look into it, but it looks kind of dated.
IIRC I emulated the game in a VM with GPU passthrough and some HWID spoofer to avoid HWID bans.
Not that it really matters I guess, long as I can spend a few days fucking shit up

>>167075713
>Not describing in vivid detail every situation where I'll be shooting in the game.
Sorry, no time for that.
And no, I usually get like a 10 to 15 KDR when I hack and play aggressively.

>>167075836
>tfw get 10-15 kdr when playing infantry without hacking
feels good being gud ;3

Vanu are gay.

>>167075895
That's okay, I don't mind if other people succeed too. Maybe we'll be on the same server and faction.

>>167075986
y-you too...

I still can't look at TR weapons without laughing at the butt stocks.

>>167076934
haha butts
lol

>>167077182
haha

>>167077354
lol

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>>167077417
Haha

>>167077182
>>167077354
>>167077417
>>167077539
haha

>>167077627
>>167077539
>>167077417
>>167077354
>>167077182
lmao

>>167077182
>>167077354
>>167077417
>>167077539
>>167077627
Lol

kys

What went wrong?

>>167077182
>>167077354
>>167077417
>>167077539
>>167077627
>>167077643
>>167077663
haha

>>167078948
werl

>>167078948
listening to reddit

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>>167059731
I WAS PROMISED A TIBERIAN SUN STYLE HARVESTER FOR AN ANT, FUCK YOU WERL

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>>167059731
WHERE IS MY COLOSSUS YOU NANITE SYSTEMS CUNTS

>>167080069
pretty sure that chart is wrong regardless because there's no way the sunderer is that much bigger than the harasser

>>167080279
that's just too big to even move around the maps properly

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>>167059731
WHERE IS MY VANGUARD RAILGUN YOU FUCKING RUSSIAN GAYBREAK CUNTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj1b8wh2Ul4

>>167080530
still funny they left those pre alpha coax machine gun slots there and they're still there

>>167080426
it literally is though

>>167080681
n-no I don't believe you

>>167080725
k

>>167074943
Good evening!

>>167082357
And good night! That's all folks, Wrel signing off!

>>167082426
Thank you werl, liked and subscribed

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>>167082426
have fun with your minimum wage at the russian gay games you motorcycle organ donor faggot

>>167059731
>Get bored of VS and NC and decide to try TR
>Play Heavy for 18 minutes, go 50/12 with minimal effort
>T9 Carv is a literal headshot machine
Jesus Christ. I don't EVER want to hear any TR bitch about anyone being OP ever again.

>>167082554
>>167082426
he probably died today in a motorcuckle accident, good fucking riddance

>>167083119
>play for 18 minutes
>already determined the entire faction is OP
kek

>>167075728
Hey man.
Apparently, Planetside 2 uses about two hack checks in the launcher itself, and also has the HWID function in the launcher as well. Patch them and you'll be fine to move onto the game. I managed to find out the game has one anti hack measure as well.

The client sided hitbox used to be in plaintext, but they just moved it to where its protected internally. I managed to find the values before getting bored and giving up. If you really know what you're doing there's lots of fun to be had here. The only real trouble is getting past battle-eye which is trivial.

>>167083171
Well Pastalavista can determine that Cyclone is the best gun in the game at all ranges after having 100 kills with it and worse kdr than with Armistice

>>167083305
>The only real trouble is getting past battle-eye
>which is trivial.
Do you know what "trouble" and "trivial" even mean?

>>167083307
I don't care.

>>167083305
>The client sided hitbox used to be in plaintext, but they just moved it to where its protected internally. I managed to find the values before getting bored and giving up

Why give up?))

Should i buy SAS-R to replace default sniper rifle?

>>167084024
don't be a fucking infilshit, you fucking homofaggot

>>167084024
Do you want a sniper rifle suited for close to medium range engagements but still be bolt action and a one headshot kill?

>>167084106
I guess, because i tried long range sniping and it was really unreliable, maybe i need to aim better.

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>>167084234
>maybe i need to aim better.
>maybe

>>167084234
>maybe

>shooting at mans
>guy walks through you
>dies in 0.2 seconds to a string of headshots and enemy fire
>comes back and shoots you in the back
>*ding* "watch where you're shooting next time idiot"
how do you respond?

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>>167084971
run him over with a battle ant until he asks for your cock

>>167084971
send a ticket to customer support (don't report in game, those do nothing), complain, and he gets banned for a week

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>>167085109
revenge killing and talking shit in voice comms is the best

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Got my bottle of scotch
Got my music
Time to go kill some planetmens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPN1EY4MIK8

>>167085576
kys

>>167083581
I received some work and went ahead and abandoned everything I was working on in my private time to pursue it. Still working on it now even. I really am too tired to try hacky shit in my off time now. I'd rather just play the game or watch films when I'm off work. Guess I'm just too old.

>>167075895
I don't understand how people get such a high KD in this game. I'm level 59 on my VS and level 38 on my NC.

My NC has a KD of 1.9 and my VS is 1.5 and rising pretty quickly.

Everyone always keeps telling me
>lower ur sens xD
But I do and stick with it for like a month and I just start sucking and can't hit shit, then I turn it back up to what it was and I instantly am able to maintain a 1.5-2.0 KD when I'm playing for fun. If I were to try extremely hard maybe I could reach a 2.5. I don't know.

Is low sensitivity in PS2 a meme though?

JustHereForOrion had a KD of 11 and he played at MASSIVE sensitivities, and like 3 of the top 10 players have giant sensitivities as well.

Is this just more about positioning? My friend has a KD of 4 and he says he can't aim at all, but he can easily kill people because he spends about 35 minutes in a fight going way behind the enemy Sunderers and waves and then taking time to mow down 20-30+ people at a time from behind before he dies.

>>167086029
low sens is literally a meme from pseudo-pro csgo faggots. anyone here can tell you that.

>>167086029
>I don't understand how people get such a high KD in this game. I'm level 59 on my VS and level 38 on my NC.
>My NC has a KD of 1.9 and my VS is 1.5 and rising pretty quickly.
You're new, you're doing fine. Just don't fall for the "anyone better than me is hacking" and the "1.5 KDR means I'm good" memes. Keep improving.

>But I do and stick with it for like a month and I just start sucking and can't hit shit, then I turn it back up to what it was and I instantly am able to maintain a 1.5-2.0 KD when I'm playing for fun. If I were to try extremely hard maybe I could reach a 2.5. I don't know.
From how much to how much did you lower it?

>Is low sensitivity in PS2 a meme though?
No, it's not. Especially not in PS2.
You see, TTK in PS2 is fairly high for an FPS, so tracking is very important (as opposed to low TTK games, where snapping matters much more); low sensitivity enables just that, better tracking.

>JustHereForOrion had a KD of 11 and he played at MASSIVE sensitivities
Yes, he also has been caught on video lagswitching dozens of times, and alternates between very good and absolute horseshit awareness (hinting that he's using ESP). Plus there's the whole dolphin bullshit. He still hasn't said what RadarX's "offer" was, right? Probably because it was something along the lines of "admit you were cheating and apologize", huh?

>and like 3 of the top 10 players have giant sensitivities as well.
?

>Is this just more about positioning? My friend has a KD of 4 and he says he can't aim at all, but he can easily kill people because he spends about 35 minutes in a fight going way behind the enemy Sunderers and waves and then taking time to mow down 20-30+ people at a time from behind before he dies.
It's about both. Aim enables you to win fair firefights (or even those where you are at a disadvantage), positioning allows you to have an advantage on people.
You want both good positioning and good aim.

>>167086136
t. 1.5 ivi kdr and thinks he's good

>>167086029
You probably play too aggressively. Even the best players are going to die a lot if they run into buildings without knowing what's there. You might also be tunnel visioning and get too focused on the current moment rather than the fight as a whole. Sometimes it's best to just step back, take a moment and read what's going on around you. At least that's what I was doing. Once I focused more on being patient rather than chasing the kill, I miraculously found out I die less often.

>>167086625
>How much did you lower it?
Well, I am on 400 DPI, with my hipfire on 0.220237, and my ADS on 0.372489.

According to Mouse-sensitivity.com, that leaves my hipfire at 11.3636 inches per 360, and my ADS at 11.3636 inches per 360 as well.

These two sensitivites are the same that I play CS:GO with, which is 3.6. I quit the game about a year ago at LE, not that rank really matters much anymore in that game.

As for how much I lowered it to,
I lowered my hipfire down to about 0.141476,
and my ADS down to 0.270679, making both of them 18.5951 inches per 360.

I DID see SOME accuracy with long range, but close range was a pain in the ass, and I was EXTREMELY uncomfortable for the entire month I played with it. I did not notice any improvement with my KD.

>>167086995
>inches per 360
oh these are my favorite parts, people thinking there's science to it

>>167087079
I don't think there's a science to it. I just don't want to sit here and keep tabbing back over to that site to grab the inches per 360 since it's highly likely someone will probably end up asking me about it here later.

I've always thought low and high sens were just dependent on the player, but generally most people do better with low sens. High sens just requires more dexterity.

Also, another person who plays well with high sens is an LA main who goes by IhacksX. KD of 11. But he has extremely fast paced gameplay and also has shitty connection almost all the time in his videos.

I am of course completely open to changing my mind about these things. I'll do anything to become a better player at this game. I feel like I'm not as good as I could be.

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Be careful not to make any loud noises as these majestic creatures are easily frightened

>>167086625
Hey man, you still here?
I'm willing to try a low sens again if it'll help me improve. I DO have trouble tracking targets long range and mid range. Maybe I just lowered it too much. What's a common low sens that people generally agree is a good starting point I could try?

>>167087325
>and also has shitty connection almost all the time

It's 100% this.

>>167087715
If you can't perform with the default sensitivities then I'm sorry lowering your sensitivity won't magically make you aim better, you are just bad.

>>167088482
>default sensitivities
they aren't default, and I perform OK.
>you are just bad
oh no rip my butt hole ;(

>>167087659
Soon with AV weapons!

>>167087715
~12 in is alright for babby's first low sens, maybe a bit on the high end, and you could lower it a little bit more. Actual low sensitivity is in the 20-30 in region, but no need to go this low at first.
The most important thing to learn is arm aiming: don't aim with your wrist or fingers, but move your arm. Wrist is for small adjustments at long range only; in all other cases, you aim with your whole forearm. Buy a big mousepad (qck+ are cheap and decent), and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
A minority of people are simply better off with high sensitivity, and you might be one of those (and there's nothing wrong with that), but most bash low sensitivity after trying to switch, without taking the time to get used to it, or without aiming with their arm.

>>167087325
>ihacksx
All his gameplay consists of magdumping into people before they even see him turn a corner, his aim isn't even that good. If anything, he understands movement very well, and got good at exploiting shitty netcode.
>I'll do anything to become a better player at this game. I feel like I'm not as good as I could be.
Maybe our friend Grigori has something that could interest you...

>>167087079
t. 1.0 ivi kdr and thinks he's good

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new implants when?

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>>167088585
>oh no rip my butt hole ;(
i can fix that 4u ))

>>167088675
Arm aiming?
Ah.
Well maybe that's it. I've always aimed with my wrist and fingers. Even when trying the new sens. I guess I just didn't change all the way. Only half way.

Alright, so I guess I will switch back to ~12?

One big problem though I had: how do you turn around with low sens? It's such a pain in the ass. That was the main thing I hated. I couldn't turn around and it frustrated me to no end.

Final question: should my ADS and Hipfire both be the same inches per 360?

>>167088840
>Well maybe that's it.
Very likely
>Alright, so I guess I will switch back to ~12?
Yeah, try that, for a dozen hours or so it'll be complete shit, then you'll feel like you're improving a little, and in a month or so you should find your aim much more reliable than before.
>One big problem though I had: how do you turn around with low sens? It's such a pain in the ass. That was the main thing I hated. I couldn't turn around and it frustrated me to no end.
Well, you move your arm a lot, and don't be afraid to lift your mouse to recenter it on your mousepad.
In an ideal case you'll never need to turn more than 180 degrees, but when getting shot from "almost" behind you might get that wrong in the heat of the moment. Keep your sensitivity high enough that you can do about two thirds of a full rotation and you'll be fine.
>Final question: should my ADS and Hipfire both be the same inches per 360?
Not really. Some people like having the same to get muscle memory ingrained faster, I like having double for added long range accuracy, but it comes down to personal preference.
Also, keep in mind that daybreak being the fucking geniuses they are, 1x sights aren't actually 1x but 1.35x, and you must account for this when calculating sensitivities.

>>167087325
Ihacks does not have very good aim though, but he does position himself well and he is not a high kph player. It's going to feel like shit every time u lower your sens so it's just up to building muscle memory for it. Is ur mousepad big enough?

>>167089283
Well fuck.
I guess I'll probably have my hipfire be a little higher than my ADS.

Thanks captain, you have done me a great service.

>>167089462
I really don't have a lot of room on my desk. I have just enough to run the low sens that I chose last time though.

>>167088675
Who are players u recommend I watch? Anyone who streams?

These MLG discussions are always so hilarious because I can't tell if it's satire or not.

>>167090064
t. 1.5 ivi kdr

>>167090309
clockwork

>>167088675
I think what I'll do is start up another Vanu character, and then play on that for the entire time it takes me to get used to the new sens. Then I'll return to my old one afterwards.

This gon' be gud.

>>167090872
lol why would you do that

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>>167090872
>another

>>167090998
>>167091594
So I don't rape my shit KD even more.

Anyways, 400 DPI,
>MouseSensitivity=0.161476
>ScopedMouseSensitivity=0.276000
>ADSMouseSensitivity=0.270679
So far feeling OK in VR training.

>>167091873
post character name so we can squad up and bully you

>>167091873
oh no, your KD!

>>167091873
See this is the issue with all this focus on kdr, it's straight up cancer.

>>167091972
Okay its PooPooBooBooVanu
>>167092023
>>167092095
ya

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>>167092252
OH SHIT NIGGER
DID YOU ACTUALLY BUY AN IMPLANT PACK
TOP KEK

>>167092635
HA AH
AH HA

>>167086029
>lower sensitivity
>keep aiming with wrist and fingers
>boo hoo y it no work???
shiggy

>>167092635
No?

>>167092884
wtf
check if you got them implants for free
or if "you" bought them automatically or some shit

>>167092960
I don't even have any SC left. Maybe it gives you implants for free when you start a new character?

>>167093015
don't think so, unless they changed it recently
thanks werl i guess

>>167092960
>>167093072
Yeah my character is only level 1, so I haven't gotten any of the free certs yet. There is literally no way I could have bought that pack. I do have the implants though in my inventory. Weird.

>>167093118
cycle the chat tabs to "items", see what it says?

>>167093279
This is all it says:
ITEM UNLOCKED: Clear Vision 2
ITEM UNLOCKED: Clear Vision 2
ITEM UNLOCKED: Battle Hardened
ITEM UNLOCKED: Clear Vision 1
ITEM UNLOCKED: EMP Shield 1
ITEM UNLOCKED: 100 Cert Points
ITEM UNLOCKED: 10 Certs

Well I gotta go get my mouth fucked around with at the dentist for 30 minutes. Be back later.

>>167093467
that's hawt
i wanna fuck ur mouth 2, bby ~~

>>167093339
thanks u werl :DDDD

Hey guys, remember Eternal Crusade?
Me neither HA HA HA HA HA HA

>>167094173
remember buzz?
remember higby's alcoholism?
remember pastebins?
remember new players asking questions and getting actual answers?
remember (( vehicules ))?
remember snake charmer?
remember searhus?
remember having hope?

>>167094714
l-lol

>>167065254
>>167064137
t. 1kd LA's

>>167094714
Remember good performance?
Oh wait.

>play with DIG
>roll up to an empty base with 12 full Sunderers
>sit around for 10 minutes
>repeat
this sure is fun

>>167095147
remember physx?
remember textures that weren't out of an N64 game?
remember warpgate galaxy taxis?
remember grenades that actually disappeared when they exploded?
remember butts?
remember original content and hat shoops?

>playing INF
>having fun
>5 kills in 22 minutes
what did they mean by this?

>>167096912
Lol, what a loser, i usually get ~10 kills.

UNPOPULAR OPINIONS
>heavy assaults are more cancer than infiltrators
>harassers are more cancer than rocket pod ESFs
>outfits should be capped at 100 players

>>167097230
your opinions are shit, and all objectively wrong

>>167096912
Are you playing Stalker infil? Are you sniping? Are you being an aggressive flanker? I find being super aggressive with an SMG or scout rifle works wonders.

>>167097325
>heavy assaults are more cancer than infiltrators
People bitch about infils because of the way netcode works, but heavies are way worse. It's basically saying "I'm shit at this game and need a crutch to win small exchanges".

>harassers are move cancer than rocket pod ESFs
A full harasser team with a Canister is practically impossible to kill if the driver is smart or everyone pulls heavies and just spams rockets.

>outfits should be capped at 100 players
Completely fine. Encourages people to do something other than follow zergling factions like AoD.

>>167095186
I would ask why there are so many incompetent leaders but...

It's probably for the same reason people are still playing this game

answer: NEETs

Super Chad outfit when?

>>167097518
you dumb retard

>>167097713
nice
argument

>>167097783
>cap outfits at 100 members
>this will magically make things different
no, you dumb retard

>>167097846
nice
argument
again

>>167097941
I'm not going to argue with an actual retard because anyone with a brain can immediately see the flaw in your idea.

>>167098049
nice
argument
again
:)

>>167097518
>heavy assaults are more cancer than infiltrators
You can still outplay them though, very little counterplay to being instagibbed across the map.

>harassers are move cancer than rocket pod ESFs
Harassers are far easier to kill than ESFs, and are far less threatening.

>outfits should be capped at 100 players
This would just lead to zergling outfits creating multiple outfits for their bullshit. A little harder to co-ordinate, but I'm sure getting AoD 1 to play nice with AoD 2 can't be too difficult.

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>getting stuttering again
thenks werl ;3
literally every single time i died today is because of xboxhueg stuttering
ffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jrlxxzVrqg

>>167099430
>PS4

>>167099395
>good goy gear
also
>connection quality: Marianas Trench

How do i aim better?

>>167100145
click on heads

>>167100196
But screen gets shaky and heads are moving!

>>167100317
aim better

>>167099123
looks pretty cool

>>167100359
Alright, thanks!

>tfw encountering nothing but infiltrators for 1 hour straight
why does that faggot wrel love them so
i would not even blink if they were outright removed from the game.

>>167100946
Werl is a positioning player, he relies on getting the drop on nerds to kill them so he buffs everything that rewards that kind of playstyle.

>>167101284
Werl is a FUCKING TURBOSHITTER, he relies on CRUTCHES so he buffs everything that HE LIKES.

>>167101284
Such as shotguns that rely completely on the element of surprise. Oh wait.

>>167066882
for some reason it feels more sluggish to aim down the sights than other weapons

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He he

>>167101520
Shotguns have always just been guns for people who can't aim better, no one actually gives a fuck about them one way or the other.

>>167101887
Hi shitter dying to shotguns.

>>167101860
wtf, did that heavy turn into an infilshit?

>>167102092
The last time I died to a shotgun was a week ago and it was a TK. No one really dies to shotguns.

>>167102253
No shit because they made them worthless now.

>>167102201
That's a great idea! A new ability that lets you instantly turn into an infiltrator.
Downside will be that you can't shoot for 0.1s.

>>167097686
Chad outfit is TENC with WaaWaa and VVar

>>167099395
>Connection Quality: 41° 43' 57" N, 49° 56' 49" W

>>167102324
They were worthless before.

>>167101284
infil is 100% anti-positioning

>>167102830
It's 100% positioning made easy mode if you play it aggressively.

>>167102914
How is good positioning required when you don't even render for the enemy?

>>167099430
>those slow turn rates

it hurts my autism

>>167103298
muh low sensitivity :^)

>>167103035
Because if you really want to rake in the kill streaks you have to not get caught so flanking and just being a huge faggot is the way to go.

>>167102693
wtf
so i open up google maps to check where that is
>ha ha very funny, middle of the ocean where the titanic sank
>wait
>there's a blue dot on the place where i live
>zoom in
>zoom in
>zoom in
>it's literally accurate to 15 meters
fucking google

>>167103694
they r watcing u ;DD
*spook-e*

>>167103580
>so flanking and just being a huge faggot is the way to go.

but.. thats true for any class and every other class cant crutch on cloak to do it

>>167103881
I don't think you understand, it still relies on having good positioning. I even clarified that it just makes getting good positioning easy modo. If you think infilshitting to obnoxious levels isn't about getting a good position and being a cloak fag then you're nuts.

>>167104109
>If you think infilshitting to obnoxious levels isn't about getting a good position and being a cloak fag then you're nuts.

Thats not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying good positioning is vastly easier because you literally have a cloak

>>167103767
yes i'm actually a little spooped
i had tried this a few times but it had always been some place in a 10 km radius

>>167104424
and I've been saying the same thing, holy shit are you dense.

>>167104593
>>167104424
ged an room u homos ;-DDD

>>167104593
If you agree with my original statement then why are you arguing?
>>167102830

who the fuck is werl and why does everyone hate him so much?

>>167104698
Because you said it's 100% anti-positioning which is just retarded.

Getting free positioning != anti positioning

>>167104812
It is 100% anti-positioning. All the normal considerations you have to take into account for good positioning go out the window when you can literally just turn invisible.

If you literally get good positioning for free then yes, its 100% anti-positioning.

If you crutch on cloak 24/7 you will never develop a good sense of positioning.

It's like HA crutching on shields when they over extend to much.

>>167105112
Holy shit, just because it takes no skill to get good position does not mean it's anti positioning. Yes it does allow to play with bad positioning but that's sub optimal and retarded.

>>167104810
hi wrel
now fuck off

>>167105343
>Holy shit, just because it takes no skill to get good position does not mean it's anti positioning

Yes. Yes it does. Thats exactly what it means.

>>167105898
>anti
opposed to; against.
>positioning
put or arrange (someone or something) in a particular place or way.

anti-positioning
opposed to/against putting or arranging (someone or something) in a particular place or way.

>>167106341
So your definition of positioning is "firing from location B" and has nothing to do with the entire skillset it takes to get from point A to point B.

Your definition of positioning has nothing to do with the skill of positioning and only to do with shooting from a position.

>>167106585
The skill of positioning IS different than the act of positioning. Just like clicking on heads is the act of clicking on heads whereas the skill of clicking on heads is just how good you are at said act.

>>167106727
and infil requires zero skill in positioning, its the anti-positioning class

>>167106893
No, it's the anti skill of positioning class.

Wow, you guys are smart :O

>can OHK from any range
>cloak allows you to get to any range uncontested

An infil main could play the game for years and never once have to think about their positioning.

>>167107375
You have played for years and you still suck.

>>167107140
Since you're having difficulty understanding this, maybe an example will help.

A basic rule of positioning is: Don't sprint out into the open like a retard

However, if you're invisible you can run out into the open like a retard and not instantly die.

Infil encourages you to do the opposite of good positioning, therefore its anti-positioning

>>167108146
Feel free to post your character select screen so I can look up your stats.

>>167108150
You are the one not understanding the basic principles of logic. This is getting way too autistic for my taste.

>>167108391
I see. You realize you're wrong and want to back out of the conversation. Thats fine. Have a nice evening.

>>167108282
and get bullied for my meager 90% hs ratio, I think not.

>>167108391
>This is getting way too autistic for my taste.
t. 0.5 a-score nt

>>167101667
Gauss saw's got really shitty equip time, really shitty reload time, shitty horizontal tolerance, and shitty moving CoF. And although the stats don't say it, it really does feel like there's something off with either the ADS time or the equip-from-sprint time or both.

Which all makes it difficult to use in a fight without already having stopped and being ready to fire. Wouldn't be an issue if ALL the LMG's were like this, but the rest of them are basically regular assault rifles you can practically jump and dance with while the gauss saw is an actual LMG with drawbacks on movement.

Improve the equip and reload times and you make it feel a lot less sluggish in a fight. Improve the horizontal tolerance and you make it an actual effective weapon at medium-long range instead of a shitshow. Improve the moving CoF and you can ADAD without destroying your accuracy.

Low RoF weapons need to be compensated with very high accuracy or they just don't work as effectively as high RoF counterparts, and while the Gauss is probably the most accurate LMG out there, it's still got enough horizontal movement to make it less effective than it should be at its best ranges while the longer equip and reload times really severely punish close quarters fighting.

And then to round it out, it's really hard for new players to understand how to use it.

Good night!

>>167109404
good night memer! :3c

>>167103694
It's more accurate than that mate, they've got you triangulated by your phone signal, not GPS. They know where you are down to cm.

If you don't want the gubmint or google to be able to track you like this, you need to ditch your phone (turning it off won't work) and any other electronic wireless devices. Even my fucking kindle reports my location to amazon if I plug it into the internet.

>>167109683
but i wasn't using my phone???

>>167109784
Were you using your google account?

>>167110106
nope

>>167110438
They track you by your IP address then searches for the nearest wireless signal and pinpoints it that way. You don't even need a Google account to look for you.

>>167111934
k

burning down my house now

if u need me ill b n the woods

>>167111934
Yeah, except "searching for nearby wireless signals" doesn't make any sense".
The only entity who should know which physical address an IP address corresponds to is your ISP, and maybe the police if they ask the ISP for it.
Not fucking Google.

>>167112491
All they need to do is drive a google street view car down your road and collect access point IP addresses

>>167112491
You must not know the sheer power of information gathering Google can do without consent.

>>167112958
It's even worse than what the NSA and CIA can do; those two are constrained by laws and the constitution.

Google can do pretty much whatever the fuck they want.

>>167112914
They can't know which IP corresponds to an AP unless they successfully connect to it, right? Are you telling me Google hacked into my router?
Also, I live in the middle of nowhere, their car didn't come this way.

>>167112958
I'm well aware that they know all of that shit, but I didn't think they'd blatantly tell me "hey we know exactly where you live :^)”

>>167114489
Oh but they do. Why? Because they're being helpful probably

>>167114489
position your irl self better

>>167114489
>They can't know which IP corresponds to an AP unless they successfully connect to it, right? Are you telling me Google hacked into my router?
By default your average commercial wireless router is 24/7 yelling, "HEY EVERYONE WHO CAN HEAR ME, I'M AN ACCESS POINT, YOU CAN CONNECT TO THE INTERNET THROUGH ME IF YOU WANT TO, JUST SAY HI AND GIVE ME A FIRM HANDSHAKE"

If your AP is encrypted, then google would have to break the encryption to access the internet through your router. That's like your dirty whore of a router asking for a password before spreading her legs. Most wireless routers are total sluts though and don't even ask for the password, they just bend over and take any connection.

And if Google's particularly unscrupulous, they'd throw an automated system into their wardriving google cars that test known default passwords on wireless routers.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/may/15/google-admits-storing-private-data
https://www.cnet.com/news/street-view-cars-grabbed-locations-of-phones-pcs/

>>167115218
>That's like your dirty whore of a router asking for a password before spreading her legs. Most wireless routers are total sluts though and don't even ask for the password, they just bend over and take any connection.
Mine isn't, she a gud girl :3

>>167115467
She's a slut and loves to take multiple connections in one port

>>167115805
lewd

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I haven't played this game in maybe two or three years. I enjoyed it when I did but it was a bit repetitive so I got bored.

Is it worth reinstalling?

>>167117705
werl saved the game and is currently saveing it even more, so yeah, reinstall
(remember to cancel the download at 90% though)

As an NC engineer, how am I suppose to fight mans past 10 meters after the shotgun nerf?
T. Sundy, valk transporter main

>>167118685
You use a carbine or battle rifle.

>>167118685
AC-X11 + aim better = ded mans

>>167115805
is there porn of this??

>>167119362
now its the JUST US buss as in only a few of us play
so its just us

get it

;_;

>>167119362
>Russian anthem
>not 1977 Soviet anthem
ONE FUCKING JOB

>>167119362
>balanshee and lolpods shooting at the same time
i wish

>>167118726
I try to use the gaus compact s and the warden. Those are the only two guns I have gold metals on
>>167119387
My accuracy and KDA are both in the gutter. But I don't look at that because I usually have my repair tool out and ammo packs everywhere

>>167120489
did you miss the "+ aim better" part?

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>>167119362
It's like an autismal fever dream.

>rig is broken for 4 months
>still obsessed with this game
>feel innate satisfaction when watching a killstreak vid

what the fugg is wrong with me :DD

>>167122226
dont-break-your-rig better

im on a mission to get the betelgeuse
what LMGs are actually worth buying on VS?

>>167124407
Literally any because no recoil no bullet drop high rate of fire is the VS theme.

How do I get KPM up? It seems like all the upper tier players have at least a KPM of 2.0, accuracy around 33% and naturally a high KDR follows.
Is it something that just comes with experience and knowing the bases?

>>167124407
Do:

Orion (Easily best VS LMG)
SVA (Lower ROF, worse Orion)
Pulsar LSW (very slightly better SVA)
NS15
Flare (Pretty meh but it's not the worst)

Ursa and Polaris are garbage, don't waste your certs.

>>167125931
From using the SVA-88 earlier, it was basically an EM1 but better

Orion might as well be a murderhose.

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>tfw login and dumped into VR and die within 5 seconds

>>167126389
thnk u wrel

>>167126389
out fuggn skilld ;DD

>>167126389
the suits cut so many bonus cheggs that they forgot to pay the VR bill :DD praise!!

>>167128157
>play earlier today
>find a shit fight
>pull boltshitter to review the battlefield before making further decisions
>see enemy is mostly just mid field pushing us
>pull prowler with intention of popping sundies
>look to the left and see a sea of blue
>just say fuck it and deploy because I don't really feel like playing prowler anyways
>get 9 kills within a minute using my AP
>get hurt enough that I have to bail
>run towards a forward positioned sundie
>get shot a bunch but after shields regen place tank mines where I know an enemy vehicle will go to attack sundie
>see they are pulling a fuck ton of vehicles
>redeploy as bullshitter to shoot them as they advance
>kill a lot of dudes
>tank mines blow up vanguard
>LA comes at me kill him with pistol
>finally die as I trade deaths with another bolt shitter
>Just carv and rocket maxes for the next 5 minutes before the shakes from not drinking are so bad I can't press buttons when I want anymore
On a scale of 1-10 how much of a shitter am I for both tonking and boltshitting in the same life?

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>>167128584
>with intention of popping sundies

>>167128584
If you're removing people and you're not using exploits or cheats, there is literally nothing wrong with what you are doing.

Max, ESF, rocketpods, shotguns, tomcats, prowlers, Bulldog gal, boltshitter, etc. All viable. All within the bounds of the game. It's up to wrel or whoeverthefuck to fix broken shit in the sandbox. It's not up to you to castrate yourself for the sake of honorabu bullshido.

>>167129173
t .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 ivi kdr (lifetime)

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Do you think they'll ever fix the in-game sights?

>>167128930
>thinking 70/30 fights are fun for either side
Faggot, plus after sundies get AV weapons the days of popping sundies at all are over.

>>167129173
Fair enough but while hilarious it was unrewarding life compared to my HA shitter lives.

>>167129298
bully!

>>167129434
>the days of popping sundies at all are over.
good

>>167129434
*bullies even more*
hehe

>>167129574
Sorry, I meant: the days of popping sundies with anything but LA or using an MBT at all are over

A single fairy will still stop fights :--D

>>167129791
heh, not so fast kid
*flourishes spitfire turret*

>>167130056
Too bad pubs won't do that. They won't even repair or hop into a sundie to defend it when it could easily repel enemy vehicles or air as is. This AV shit just stupid, sundies are fine as is, pubs are just bad. I may be a shitter but if someone attacks a sundie right after I spawn to me it's always free kills. I don't get why people care so little for their spawn points.

>>167130232
>try to hop in sundy
>its locked

They deserve to get poped imo

>>167126389
>Not Alt+F4ing as soon as you realize what's happening
Walk better

>>167129350
looks fine

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>>167133470
>looks fine

>>167133646
still looks fine

>>167137097
;p;

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anyone posted this yet? orbital strike/ playtest video fresh from reddit

looks pretty cool desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr1P5Qyoj0A&feature=youtu.be

>>167137970
;p;

>>167137970
RIP any semblance of performance.

>>167138739
there's any left?

>>167138739
>>167138889
t. poorfags

>>167138925
i have a 7700k/1080 so my performance is fine but you shouldn't need 2017 hardware to play a 2012 game XD

>>167109532
Good morning memer!

>>167111934
>>167109683


>make a photo of a washing machine in a mall with my phone, in a city 400km from home
>all the adds on my desktop PC are now of washing machines
>go to Volkswagen dealership to ask for battery replacement (apparently you can't just replace it yourself , you have to program the new one in the car)
>all the ads on my desktop PC are now of volkswagen cars

We really live in crazy times. Thank God I'm an honest person and I have nothing to hide. Being a criminal nowadays must be horrible.

>>167126389
It does count as a death stat despite being VR you know

Guys?

>>167143573
hi

d

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I just feel autisticly annoyed with halfway upgraded ammo capacity
2k certs wasted

>>167146631
>current year
>gold balanshee
ha ha oh wow

>>167146754
I only started playing last year m9

>>167146834
it is still the current year though

Ptchoo :-------D

>>167147806
*ded's*

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>pokemans and horsefuckery
what?

>>167148083
v1

>>167148428
High level infantry play!

>>167148582
yeah, it links to this
https://onsizzle.com/i/high-level-infantry-play-oh-fug-ddd-d-bshhhh-nodthins-bersonal-1691176
and that site seems to be yet another shitty 9gag/funnyjunk/whatever clone, but like two thirds of the stuff on it are in hindi

>>167148428
>a horse in bed smoking a cigarette

The end of mankind can't come soon enough.

>>167148712
>ddd-d-bshhhh
:-DDDDD

construction removed when? just give bases a cortium supply and keep the ants

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Fun is when?

>>167149997
>fun
??????

>>167149997
>2017
>expecting anything other than more NS stuff

>>167149997
The rumble seat for the Harasser was a big mistake.

>>167149997
>You'll never have a continent catering to fast vehicle conflict

>>167150263
>You'll never have a tower only continent

>>167150286
>You'll never have a new continent, period

>>167150286
This is the worst feel ;_;

Why i never heard about this game before? Holy shit it's fun!

>>167150870
lol

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>>167150870
>Having fun
You must be new, welcome to /v/
Kill yourself faggot

>>167150870
>it's fun

There is no such thing as fun in a competitive shooter.

>>167151282
t. 1.5 ivi kdr

>>167150870
You poor fool.

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>>167150870

I just got the AP gun for my Vanguard, what should I cert out next? I'm thinking the shield, then either mine guard or stealth, and then the Enforcer or Halberd, finished by the chassis. Any improvements I could make or recommendations on gear?

>>167150431
They should have kept it at 3 continents to be honest. Make them more varied (like a volcanic area on Amerish, some kind of big ice canyon looking place on Esamir etc, Indar is already varied) and maybe introduce battle islands.

>>167151909
mine guard is for shitters and stealth is situational

>>167152032
What should I get then?

>>167151909
1level stealth, 1 leven shield, speed to max, reload main gun, reload secondary.
enjoy the most fun thing in the game aka shitting on c4 faries.

I somehow managed to quit this game but I'm still here, why?

>>167152474
memes

>>167152474
Shitter

>>167152474
lol

>>167151236
>/v/

why does 2 c4 do nothing to a shielded sundie

what the fuck how do I kill this

>>167153748
when there's people this dumb you start to understand a lot of the problems in the world