/fhg/ - For Honor General #7

>>167057589
Thanks mom

me in the middle

>>167057589
>don't be a weeb
>thread pic is nobushi
ztop

ol' 'cide

>>167057705
you can join the knights and play weebs
it's koo

>>167057589
>>167057705
>>167057731
Just no reddit

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I can't wait to play Lawbringer again, because even in his weak state he locked down assassin characters pretty well.

>They do a lunge at you
>Block it and push them back with an instant shove
>Parry it and fuck 'em

>>167057861
why wasn't he playable in the closed beta?

>>167057861
>Parry it and fuck 'em

You can't do this though, none of the Lawbringers moves after a parry were guaranteed hits.

Hopefully they've changed that.

They aren't going to fix "Whoever attacks first loses", do they?

>>167057997
he, Valkyrie, and fat guy are or were still being rebalanced cause they were all UP

>>167057997
Because he sucked ass in the alpha 2.

The next open beta looks like it's going to have all the characters, so we get to see how he was changed.

>>167058096
>Valkyrie
>Underpowered

More like so overpowered it made PK and Nobushi look well designed.

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>>167057861
boss battle tier armor design, ubisoft is appealing to my fetish for power.

>>167058160
Hopefully they don't nerf her into being useless because of that. The devs don't seem too bad at balancing though so hopefully it'll be fine.

>>167058190
source on that? i love dwarfs

>>167058218
I'd be happy if her attack speed was lowered. That was the main issue I had, she had all these tools to blind, knockdown, stagger etc. yet had the attack speed of Peacekeeper.

>>167058160
t. shitter that couldn't dodge the leg sweep

Valkyrie was a bit overtuned but still more balanced than Nobushi

>>167058190
You'll love it, his higher level pollaxe designs look like they're out of Warhammer or some shit. Bronze skulls and iron crosses lined around the head, for example.

>>167058320
Basically all her damage comes from either chaining light attacks, which can be stopped by simply blocking one of them, or doing a heavy after a leg sweep, a move that is extremely easy to dodge.

>>167058436
Not if you're blinded and they mix up.

>>167058321
Not that anon but you got my attention a bit.

Are there purity seals?

Can I download the game while waiting for the Open Beta?

>>167058584
I got an update on PS4 to the closed beta today. So if you already have that it's probably the same client. If not, probably not.

Are they going to reset everything after the open beta too?

>>167058862
Yes.

reckon I'll play for honor during the open beta

>>167059017
Cool, thanks.

>>167058624
I'm on PC and I haven't participated in any of the other betas so far.

>>167059076
Then I guess you're just gonna have to wait, anon. Sorry.

>>167059062
reckon I will too

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>Reminder that if you're a weeb, you're the scum of the earth

>>167059129
can't see the webm, but Im sure it is you killing an orochi or nobushi

>>167059256
Weird, worked last time

>bored
>For Honor isn't out
>load up DS3
>cheat engine
>max out all stats
>set soul level to 70
>invade people and bully them like an asshole
>kill myself IRL
>resurrect myself on February 13 at 11:59pm
>have fun being the LAW

>>167059632
I'm sure you thought this was funny while typing it out.

>>167059782
Indeed, a terrible post was made

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POST WEEB DESTROYING WEBMS.

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Slavs when?

>>167060116
>caged
>not down a giant pit of refuse

I have these strange dreams. Battles that I have never seen. The seer tells me that they are from a past life, but I am not sure. With shield in hand, I face odd opponents. Some clad in iron and golden ornaments, dedicating their deeds of war to a single god without name. The others dress themselves in studded leather and carved masks, wielding skinny blades. For whom they fight I do not know.

We fight, unbound by time. For what I cannot say. As I look back on my dreams, I can see the all-father smiling upon me and my brethren - he blesses us with such a world where we can live for what we were born to do. War.

Thor has abandoned his skyanvil, and now puts Odins blessing to work. The rumbling of his hammer, so close that I feel each strike vibrating through my bones... The earth is splitting apart beneath our feet. The gods are remaking the world in our image. Is this still Midgard?

As the world serpent releases his hold and the earth sunders at Thor's strikes, I feel no fear. Only joy. For I know, as my dreams unfold in front of me now, that my life is fated. I shall not fall until the gods will it. And before I join my brethren in Valhalla, I will kill all the fucking weebs.

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>>167060258
I got you covered.

Can you change factions whenever you want?

>>167060192
You will never have you slavs in this game, Anon. Go squat in your track-pants somewhere else

>>167060374
You can, but I read somewhere that you won't qualify for faction war rewards if you do this.

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>>167060385

>>167060364
Thanks senpai.

>>167060374
>>167060494
For the whole season

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>>167060554
I am feeling generous today.

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>>167059129
*Unless you're an honorable Kensei

Does anyone know what the fuck Raider is yelling when doing zone attack?

>>167060364

dueling with raiders will be annoying

>>167060980
Raider is actually stupidly simple to beat, they have limited tools to be aggressive and their (((unblockables))) are slow as shit

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>>167060980
:^)

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>>167060116
>Katana can't cut through
FIX THIS UBISOFT

Is beta ded?

>>167058160
I don't get the nobushi hate. None of the ones I saw streamers play against because I didn't get a fucking invite seemed that they would be better off over PK

>>167061317
Until the 9th to 12th.

Read the OP.

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>>167060116

>The female heroes have the worst emotes

Can't do anything that makes you laugh or lust after a woman.

>>167061505
What do you want them to do? Strike a pinup model pose in full armor? Prostrate themselves on the ground? Blow a kiss?

>>167061320
The buddies I played with all unanimously hated the Nobushi the most, coming from a peacekeeper main, raider main, and warden main.
Granted as a Conqueror main I just thought they were stupid for getting wrecked consistently by nobushi's.
Basically:
>Nobushi are fast with great poke
>The poke does bleed damage
>They have superior reach
>They dodge out when you get close
>And they go back to poking and jumping away when you get close
So yeah, kinda OP except-
>Squishy as fuck
>Pretty much only attack in a straight line
>Dodge left/right, live, run at them and pummel their ass
Or you know, just fucking charge them after blocking, fucking casuals...

>>167061320
People say Nobushi is hard to fight because they are shit themselves. That's all. People need to git gud. Literally all you need to do to beat Nobushi is to block and stay close.

hopefully they nerf the peacekeeper by next beta. i really don't wanna keep dueling them every 9 out of 10 games

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[–]Error_X 15 points 7 hours ago

wow I cant describe how true this is.

But then the open beta was leaked and the picture just went vice versa.

(cry, realize that there is an open beta, be happy, dream about For Honor)

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>>167061631
>Implying sticking their weapon into the ground and doing a mock pole dance wouldn't be funny as shit

>>167061747
What exactly do you think is OP about the Peacekeeper.
I'll be able to tell if you're good or not by your answer.

>>167061747
>Tfw main the peacekeeper and shitters cry for her to be nerfed
Seriously, the classes are fairly well balanced, try not being shit.

I kinda wanna make some webms of some Xbone clips I took from the beta, but I'm pretty sure I'm shit...

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>>167061810
their white female privelage

>>167061880
I've been posting youtube videos of my xbone gameplay. I'll show you mine if you show me yours

What's broken about PK?
Is it the damage on their grab stab?

>>167061875
>peacekeeper main
stopped reading there

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>PS4 is full of Weebs
>PC is mixed
>XBOX is Deus Vult 24/7

>>167061939
Fuck it, looking for a converter/editor now. What's the max file size again?

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>>167061875
>What is reading comprehension ?

>>167062043
Not sure, I've yet to actually convert my clips into webms. Been lazy and just put them on youtube

>>167061945
The only criticism I have of her is that her dodge is too strong considering she can used it when exhausted.
That and perhaps being able to dodge cancel her heavy attacks but not even 1% of Peacekeepers were doing that because she didn't need to against mediocre players.

>>167062065
You want pk to be nerfed because you don't want people using her. Some people just like the playstyle, not that she's a broken character

>>167061945
insanely fast high damage attacks that are almost impossible to parry because of p2p. guard break that takes off near half your health

she's just unpredictable and a very unforgiving character if you fuck up just once she can take you down to 30% health in 5 seconds. and worst of all she's way too easy to play so every shitter is using her right now.

Do you guys think there's a chance they'll actually balance the game around the people who complain and ask for the characters they hate to be nerfed?

I sure hope not.

>>167062161
I have no problem with that if people like her playstyle they can keep playing her after the nerf and the game is no longer easy mode while playing her.

>>167062235
Sadly that is the course of almost every single game, majority vote even if majority is shitters always wins. Just pick a character thats mediocre and stick with it and pray.

>>167062235
t. peacekeeper main
usually if everyone is complaining about a single character there is a problem, which there is, peacekeeper is far too easy to play for such fast and easy damage

>>167062372
Characters exist like that in every game. But at higher levels of play they fall off pretty hard, i shit on pk players cause they have only two ways of approach and depend on being aggro, and cant deal well with people going aggro on them.

>>167061945
That's a part of it, although not for the grab-spam reasons people think.
The fact is that she has the hardest punish off of grab in the game, ignoring environmental kills etc, and Parry, which is the strongest tool in the game guarantees her a grab, therefor she has the strongest punish off of parry in the game.
Combined with a great dodge/deflect for a safer option when you aren't confident to parry an attack, and the ability to interupt her heavies with an attack as effectively a damaging slightly riskier feint, she seems like she has the best tools to abuse the game's systems.
In the last thread people were posting that kensai vs warden match with endless feinting. Every time the kensai landed a parry or grab he had to choose between safe low damage or a high damage mixup with his helmsplitter but risk getting nothing.
PK just gets huge damage for free. Its like a warden top light, but actually a little more damage I think, and you can't just not attack her high to avoid it.

Of course, this is all mostly theory. It seemed to be developing that was from my matches, but I didn't get nearly enough time to get that far, and I spent most of my time playing Berserker instead of PK, who arguably has the weakest punish off of a grab in the game so my perspective is a bit flawed.

>>167062197
Her only fast attack is overhead light, and it is good don't get me wrong.
That is what actually makes her a strong character, her up close light game.

Her guard break however is not OP, you need to learn how to tech.
Bleed however should not kill.

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>>167062034
>>PC is mixed
PC is Vallhalla

>>167062506
Can you counter guard break while stunned after a parry?

>>167062372
There is a difference between everyone, and shitskin majority.
On the other hand balancing a game around metafags is even worse since they stick to one thing and think that anything that works contradictory to that thing needs nerfing, leading to stagnation.

>>167062465
Characters that get better punishes off of parry:
Warden
Warlord
Nobushi
Berserker*

*If opponenet is out of stamina or near a wall.

>>167062275
Except she's not easy mode, if you weren't bad at the game you wouldn't have such a hard time

>>167062576
No.

Exceptions being Kensei, Nobushi and some Conqueror attacks as they have larger pushback when parried which makes guard break whiff.

>>167062618
what should a warden do after parry?

>>167062618
no orochi have you tried his heavy punish off his parry its fucking disgusting half a health bar easily. Not hard at all to parry on him either.

>>167062762
side lights or grab.

>>167062762
Top Light > Auto-Light

>>167062618
>warden
How? PK triple stab does ~30% more damage than a warden top heavy.

>Warlord
Also how? I never played him but I don't think he had any ridiulous damage attacks.

>Nobushi
You get a free medium damage heavy, or a free light and probably but not guaranteed a followup light with poison that together deal around the same damage.

>Berserker
His top heavy does pretty crazy damage, but his throw is pretty short range, and its still roughly equal if not slightly less than the full 3 stabs and poison PK gets, and if you don't have a wall to throw them into you don't even get a side heavy.

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>>167062762
side light*2 xx shoulder for mixup
side heavy for damage + execution
throw for ledge kill

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FemConq is my waifu

>>167062896
>Warden
Shoulder 50/50 (or 33/33/33)

>Warlord
Overhead heavy which does nearly the same amount of damage as Peacekeeper stabs but for less stamina cost.
OR shield bash (which drains the opponent's entire stamina bar) which then allows him to meme on you with headbutt/guard break until you die or recover stamina.

>Nobushi
Gets Heavy, Kick, Bleed-Stab I think it's the hardest punish in the game.

>Berserker
Punch does like 40%ish stamina damage alternatively he can get his lights and heavyxxfeints going.

>>167062915
You can option select the shoulder charge mixup. The moment he glows orange dodge sideways and start mashing grab for the duration of the dodge. If he shoulder charges you avoid it and get a punish, if he cancels into grab you break it instantly and if he charges it fully he can't follow up.

>>167063110
Hmm if that's true I'm fairly certain just chaining into Heavy could clip the dodge or feinting the shoulder, then doing overhead light and/or zone attack.

>>167063092
Warden's plait is so cute damnit

>>167063291
it indeed is
best girl

>>167063109
I think you're overvaluing mixups and stamina damage. Defensive play is so strong even exhausted that it isn't really that much of a downside, unless it leads to a knockdown which is free damage, and generally they have to fuck up while already exhausted to get knocked down which is less likely while focusing on defense.
And up-front guaranteed damage is generally better than maybe-damage, particularly unsafe maybe-damage that gets you punished if your opponent reads you.
>>167063223
Can you cancel the charge into an attack? I thought you were committed to one of those two options once you started charging it. If you can that's good, I like warden a lot, it made me kind of sad when I realized such a big part of his kit was essentially useless. He's good either way, just off his fundamental strengths, but more options is generally a good thing.

>>167062762
>>167062915
I would add that you can throw them into a wall to connect a top heavy for a bit of extra damage.
Or if it's a kensei/nobu/whatever and you're too far away for anything else, use a top light or zone for extra reach.

>>167062552
Closed beta ended with Vikings at 24, Knights at 21 and Samurai at 15. Knights pushed back hard and now that people know to deploy assets into specific regions instead of just wasting them, it's gonna be a close fight in the open beta.

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>>167063587
He can feint shoulder at any time before release.
At the end of the .webm you can see I feint the shoulder expecting the other Warden to try to top light it.

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>>167063695
I deployed assets but have no idea what they're used for. Care to illuxidate me?

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>>167062097
LIKE 30 MINUTES LATER
Fuck me I have no idea what the hell I'm doing with this. I used an online converter, then Windows Movie Maker, and this should work apparently. 400 kbps Bit Rate is par right?
Here's the play by play commentary:
>The shield charge was intentionally supposed to miss, to lure the berserker into a false sense of security
>I didn't actually think the Attrition combo would go beyond 3 hits so kept going to see how far it would go
>It was a good fight

Anyone know where to buy the deluxe edition pretty cheap? G2A doesn't have the deluxe edition, and gamesplanet deluxe edition is 37 but it's region-locked.

>>167063961
They're your contribution to hold an area. Say for example you see your faction at 47% control to your enemy's 53%, when you complete a match deploy assets in that area. Whoever has the higher score at the end of the round takes the region.

Never just quit a match without spending assets. Otherwise they're spread across the entire map and basically wasted.

>>167064013
Well... it worked I guess?

>>167063092
Fuck you, she's mine!

>>167064021
Green man gaming has some good prices.

>>167064121
Do you think that there's any lower than that out there? I don't want to get it from gmg right away and find something cheaper down the road.

>>167064021
GMG if you have an account.

Excluding the previews, what kind of characters would you guys like to see for the DLC? I think for samurai a ninja kama like guy could be cool, but I'd love to have a yari spear using monk. Or a Musashi dual wielder type.

Knights I could see a lancer maybe? And possibly a mace wielding medium weighted character, like a priest or something like that.

Vikings, i dunno, maybe an elite Jomsviking and then some kinda mythical refrence as a warrior?

>>167064013
>FEEL THE PAIN JESUS FELT.webm

Also, use this; https://gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter

Resize to 720 width or less, trim it and select in encoding: Variable+high quality mode IF!! the video is short. OR, constant+high quality mode and set the size to 3 or 2.9.

This is the simplest and most effective tool for beginners, an anon once posted his own tool and apparently it is better, but this one is mega accessible to newbies.

>>167064013
Goddamn bullied the ever loving shit out of him. It's amazing that some people take that long to recover properly block. I still haven't gotten around to making webms, but here's one of my videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbuNT5tCTjY

It was my first game with as the peacekeeper and I was amazed I didn't get gangbanged.

>>167064013
If you must convert online use: http://www.online-convert.com/

I use a small app that converts files by dragging vid files onto a bat and just follow the few instructions from there:

https://github.com/Cephel/4chan-webm-maker

>>167064263
Ninja might be requested alot. I picked Samurai in the CB and enjoyed all the classes so it wouldn't matter to me what they put in as long as it's enjoyable to play. But what you listed sounds great!

>>167064326
Thanks!

>>167064334
The sad part is I did it again to the berserker and the warden in the next round. Also saved a clip of that fight.

>>167064468
Yeah I was using that, but ran into the issue of having a file size greater than 3mb so I had to fiddle with the quality in windows movie maker...

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>>167063092
You can have her, Valkyrie's all mine

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r8 this bully

>love polearms
>play nobushi
>have fun with stance dodges and different cancels
>everyone trashtalks me in duel chats
>people just stand there doing nothing saying "nah, there is no reason to fight, your character is not fair"
.___.
I wish they fix her and not make her complete shit

>>167063764
Is this you playing anon?

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>>167064263
For knights I want a fatass Friar Tuck looking mothefucker with a quarterstaff. He can be a hybrid heavy/assassin. Big and slow moving but with a deflect/counter mechanic and good fast harassing strikes, stun and a trip.
Designed so that fighting him on narrow bridges is exceedingly foolhardy.

>>167064468
This "Cephel/4chan-webm-maker" is much more straight forward and easier to follow than "Webm for retards". For beginners especially

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>>167064645
Yes.

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>>167064613
Not bad, but check this shit out!
>Kinda sloppy on my part, but it fucking works

>>167064326
But yeah, converter's working great, thanks for the spoonfeed.

>>167064760
kek

funny thing is that conq lights are punishable by guard break on block

niggas just don't wanna block

>>167064616
I noticed that many players tend to hate almost every character for one reason or another. They all have their own things that are annoying to deal with.

Never had anyone flat out refuse to fight me though, and I main peacekeeper.

>>167064820
Don't lie to me
plenty of em gave up after getting fatal bleed, didn't they?

>>167064876
Of course, but there were just as many who tried to fight if I was low enough to where they might actually still win.

>people post webms here or vids on you tube with YO CHECK OUT MY SICK FOR HONOR SKILLS BOYS
>they just spam lights or guard breaks
>their opponents never tech guardbreaks nor block light attack spams
every time

>>167064993
Do you really think that's what's going on in this thread?

Try reading some time.

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>>167064993
what's your uplay my dude

>>167064613
>I noticed
>that's fuck
what did he mean by this?

>>167065116
was talking about how both of our light attacks are punishable by guard break on block

>>167065081
Damn nigga, I wish I was that good. Really need to play more 1v1 in the open beta or brawl.

>>167065081
good stuff

>>167065081
Don't bully femwardens!

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>>167064810
Dude I fucking know! I'll only try to land the first 3 hits, but if they just sit their and take I will absolutely burn my stamina on swinging repeatedly at them.

And here's Round 2 of that brawl with the berserker, spoiler alert: He nor his friend learned how to block.
>Honestly, I probably should have died there

>>167065081
Christ that's fucking clean

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>>167065336
FemWarden is for bullying.

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>>167065350
I kinda feel bad for him. He probably left frustrated and having had zero fun. For all we know he may have been trying to dodge or block. The game is pretty unresponsive at times

>>167065363
>not purposefully prolonging the fight so that the bullying lasts longer
>not doing guardbreak throws and shield bashes with no damaging followup just to assert your dominance
do you even fight bad femwardens

>>167065674
Yeah I know what you mean, though on the bright side, I think, that was during the last hour of the beta.

>>167065674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_szyE2mU3k
yeah that input lag or whatever it is called is pretty frustrating

>>167065876
Wonder if that input lag is just on pc. I played on console and usually it was spot on for me

>>167065876
I KNEW it wasn't just me! This is the only reason I'm on the fence about FH. Getting hammered just bc the game didn't do what I fucking said just sucks the fun out of it.

>>167066050
If that's the case, then just PC then, even on kb+m. I recall having few problems where my block didn't go off/block in the wrong direction.

>>167065876
epic video my friend
the game is in Polish, a language I happen to speak
did you notice how he's in the settings before every fight?
he keeps setting his stance changing sensitivity to some pathetically small number

>>167064013
JUST SIDESTEP JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE ARE SO BAD AT THIS GAME

>>167066205
>Dostosuj czulosc i responsywnosc myszy w trybie gardy
It's mouse only setting.
Doesn't affect controller.

>>167060192
the left one would be sick

>>167066205
I think it is done so that mouse won't affect it by accident

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If anyone still needs For Honor beta invites, hit me up. As far as I know there's no limit right now, and I haven't sent any from the menu or at all. If everyone has them already and I'm slowpoke here, my bad.

PSN: cjrod92

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> did some more digging
> found out we're actually the scottish border nixons not the irish ones

Well on the upside red and yellow are my favourite colours, downside is it's not nearly as cool as the irish one, and I sneeze when i'm around cats

>>167063109
>>Nobushi
>Gets Heavy, Kick, Bleed-Stab I think it's the hardest punish in the game.
Nobushi main here

the heavy is guaranteed after a parry guard break, but the kick can be dodged if you expect it.

>>167064616
>I wish they fix her and not make her complete shit
she is fine and not complete shit

she's upper mid tier/lower high tier against people who know what's up

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>>167067235
I'm a bit disappointed with how simple my family crest it, but I'll wear it in battle with pride.

Lawbringer better be in the open beta boiz

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>Shugoki has an emote where he falls asleep and nearly falls to the ground
>SJWs/tumbleritas will go 'shugoki is perf even someone with chronic narcolepsy related to obesity(WHICH IT TOTALLY ISN'T!!!!!!!!!) can kick so much ass and he is my trans waifu and fuck you :D:DD' or shit like that.

>>167068734
Anon you have issues. Big people get sleepy easy.

>>167068734
you have autism

Is peacekeeper OP? I prestiged her in the beta before finally learning how to stab

>>167069024
Not really.
The only thing that's a little silly is that bleed can kill.

>>167069024
No, but many players find her difficult to fight against so they complain a lot. Her triple stab might be a bit powerful though.

>>167062552
the faction war is cross-platform though

>>167069024
Peacekeeper isn't OP, she's a cum hungry slut.

>>167069167
>tfw will never piss on Peacekeeper's faceplate

>>167069298
>>>/d/

>>167065876
SO IT WASN'T JUST ME!
They better fix that shit!
It made playing against assassins unplayable for me with those light attack spams

What would nobushi do if you accidentally (or not) touched her breasts?

>>167070207
*dodges backwards*
*puts bleed on 100% of your health bar*

n-nothing personnelu, bakagaijin

>>167070207
Nobushi is lame, Peacekeeper is best insatiable whore.

>>167069024
Her guardbreak does a little too much damage.
Once the majority can counter guardbreak she'll have a hard time though.
Also I found the best tactic against bad players was just flailing like a retard and they counldn't block in time.
Good to punish baddies, bad against anybody who knows their shit. I got completely destroyed by good players.

>>167070482
The most annoying fights I had as Peacekeeper were against good players who were overly defenseive, and always rolling away.

I never knew what to fucking do because they would just roll away or block my lung attack, and punish me. She absolutely destroys bad players though.

>>167059017
but why

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>>167067235
What the fuck's wrong with a strong Scottish clan?

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>>167070863
>Good players
>Always rolling away
Rolling is literally always wrong if you're not being ganked.
As PK just forward dash R2 them ffs.

>>167071507
>As PK just forward dash R2 them ffs.
>Get parried because everyone sees it coming.
>Good bye health bar it was nice seeing you.

That won't work on anyone who played this game for longer than ten minutes.

>>167071684
I always found it very difficult to get the timing down on the parry of her lunge. I always fucked it up and ate the dagger.

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>>167071507
Anon, I may have typoed lunge, but that's the attack I meant. It doesn't fucking work against anyone who isn't shit. They're always keeping their distance, and that lunge attack is the best method I have of getting close. It's not like they're fucking rolling to get away from every single attack.

It's pretty easy to avoid or block, and i'm not sure what the fuck else to do against them. Their guard game is on point, and they're always at a distance, in control of the battle.

I literally just had to wait for them to attack for the chance to counterattack. I'm certain there's something i'm missing here, but that's my experience with those type of players so far, and the only type I really struggled against.

>>167071734
Then just block into guard break nigga she still has recovery on that shit, or light attack.

Or git gud.

>>167071752
What do I do if they immediately dodge to the side after the lunge?

>>167071745
Cancel heavy into stab, cancel lunge into grab, cancel overhead heavy into deflect stab.
Good players will see it coming, but they'll have a hard time if you're fast.

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>>167071818
>nigga she still has recovery on that shit
And afaik guard break traces the dash.

Git. Gud.

>>167071969
I'm asking for advice, I'm not complaining. From my own experience gaurdbreaks do not work against side dodges.

they really need to add a penalty for quitting matches. they also need to make it so quitting counts as a loss

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>>167072078
Predict the dodge jesus christ, If you fail; it doesn't matter, you are outside her range to hurt you, if you do it properly.

Guard break/your own dash attack.

>>167072172
They need to make it so you get an XP/asset bonus for playing your faction's characters.

>>167071954
>good players will still see it coming
Fuck. So it still just relies on them making a mistake.

I'll still try that stuff come open beta though. Thanks. I have the basics down pretty good, but more advanced stuff like cancels, and the like that you really only need at higher level play are still pretty foreign to me.

>>167072247
That Peacekeeper was absolute trash.

>>167072247
>implying the enemy you picked up wouldnt immediatly start stabbing your back
nice realism ubisoft

>>167072172
I always disconnect if a peacekeeper beats me since i don't think i deserve the loss.

>>167072731
>consensus is peacekeeper is good against bad player
>I don't deserve that loss lol
Yes you do

>>167066050
>Wonder if that input lag is just on pc.
wonder if that's just for xbox controller, I was using ps4 and don't remember problems like that

>>167058253
the dwarf portrait is from wow

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>>167072172
Nah, better to not do that. I'm set up so I can exit/disconnect instantly. I always do if I'm about to buttbopped.

>>167073341
I think it might even be worse on kb&m. Half my dodges/blocks went unregistered by the game. I had to dust off my 360 controller but I haven't put in enough time with it to tell a difference.

>>167073201
nah when they nerf the character i'll take the loss fine as it's due to their skill as of right now the character is OP and can beat everyone easily regardless of the persons skill so i don't deserve the loss.

>>167073603
>>167073434
appreciate the bait bumps but there's no way the threads will last till the 9th anyway

>>167073585
they might as well let players fight cross platform since I've noticed so many people on pc use controllers anyways

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>>167065876
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_szyE2mU3k
how can you be so shit as to not analyse your own footage when you put it up in slow motion even?

I'm going through this frame by frame right now and in the second fight as warlord against the Kensei there's something else going on.

The first hit after the dodge, the one to the left, connects, even though the warlord was resting his guard on the left. Normally this shouldn't be possible.

The next hit, the one to the right is the one where he complains it's not registering even though ingame the small stick you have in the middle of the 3 block directions moves the very second his joystick touches the edge and overlays "right side to block" on the video.

Why then, it still takes a while for the block to go off, I do not know. Possibly because blocking isn't instant and takes a few frames for the animation to catch up before it becomes active.

Gonna have to do more testing on this.

>>167073851
I heard mouse offers a speed advantage on some moves though.

>>167073603
Have you ever played a fighting game in some sort of competitive way before? I doubt it because you have the mindset of a retarded child right now. PK is not OP, she is good against bad players. You need to git gud or get out.

This isn't some action RPG or adventure game, it's a fighting game, treat it as such and learn how to beat a character instead of being a fucking bitch who just cries OPOPOP.

tfw no video recording program that lets you edit right after recording has finished.
movie maker is too slow for my tastes

>tfw they're going to nerf headbutt and make warlord low tier

>>167073928
went through the first fight again where he is playing as Nobushi and this makes it perfectly clear

after you get hit your block will turn black for a a few frames, meaning you cannot block again until hit recovery is over. Now, will being in hit recovery he had the stick on the left side, you can clearly see this at the bottom.

As soon as hit recovery ended the game shows the small stick in the middle again and IT REACTS INSTANTLY THE MOMENT HIT RECOVERY ENDS putting him in a guard left stance. A frame or two later he realizes his mistake and tries to block upwards, but by then it's already too late, the game registered the block left command and executes the animation and by the time that is done, it's too late to still guard against the Orochi's attack.

0 input lag, game behaves just like it should. If you mash guard directions like a retard you will get hit and feel like the game doesn't react to your input properly, when in fact it does. This also shows us very clearly that blocking is not instantaneous, but takes a few frames to execute.

My respect for For Honor just grew with this video, thanks for linking.

>>167074190
t. peacekeeper

>>167074301
headbutt really i just icing on the cake, if you relied on it to win you're probably bad.

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>>167073603
shitter in denial are the worst

>>167073434
For what purpose though?

>>167074527
idk, headbutt is the only thing fucking me up against warlord

what else is good in his toolset?

>>167074527
I can 3-0 you in my sleep, shitter

If your opponent can counter guard break then warlord has nothing besides headbutt

Anyone else think that playing without the HUD may eventually give you an advantage if you have to rely on animations alone?

Especially the tackles are telegraphed way after their startup animation.

>>167074529
That's the thing I didn't get, why not just give you the win when your opponent disconnects instead of replacing them with a bot? That's retarded.

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>>167074529
this guy gets it
>>167073721

>>167073721
if undertale general could last for 2 years with nothing new to talk about after the first 3 months, I'm sure we can last 9 days

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>>167074613
full block stance (while in can still tech gb)
armored heavies
successful parry + shield bash drains your entire opponent's stamina bar
dash heavy for chase down

headbutt is very good but doesn't need to be as spammable as it is now.

>>167074691
didn't i 4 or 5-0 you anime girl?

>>167074802
If you take away headbutt and shoulderbash you couldn't even take a set

>>167074802
>headbutt is very good but doesn't need to be as spammable as it is now.
true, it costs next to no stamina

the cost needs to be upped to 50% or at least 33% of his bar

>>167074837
>I would win in my mind.
lol

anyone here on ps4 have a problem during the beta where notifications will pop up saying you're recording when you aren't?

>>167074882
>tfw literally the only way you ever dealt damage to me was with shoulderbash
>get you down to 30% hp while I'm at 70% then you start spamming shoulderbash
Whatever, nerd

>>167074910
That shows up in any game where there's a blocked scene.
Just so happens that there's a lot of them in the beta. Hope it's not like that on full release.

>>167074971
That's because I was taking risks.
Playing defensive is a snoozefest just look at this garbage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DSKst1c8Og

I'd rather rush that shit down.

How do you properly defend against guard breaks?
No amount of mashing the guard break button in response seemed to do anything and light attacks somehow kept getting interrupted by the guard break as well.
I would've enjoyed playing a lot more if guard break didn't feel so off.

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>>167061747
>Omg please nerf controllers!
>My wrist can't move as fast as people's fingers who using them!
>Please Ubisoft stop being Ubihard!

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>>167075118
you press the guard break button

>>167075115
>That's because I was taking risks.
literally only warden and warlord are able to do this though

>>167075115
Shoulderbash is still overpowered against heavies desu

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>tfw you beat nobushi in a fair and good fight then enjoy every single inch of her body and she cant do anything but accept it.Deep down she alway want to be ravaged by a good man,a better fighter than she was.

>>167075205
Yes but when? Are my reflexes just shit?

>>167075238
Yes and those are the two characters we play.
>>167075250
I duel'd that FTE Feint guy as Conqueror and was able to roll out dunno about Warlord.
Also some guy here said you could OS the mixup by dodging as soon as you see the orange flash and then mashing tech but I have my doubts.

Found this poll on leddit, which platform? go on ahead vote your ass off

>>167075324
L-lewd.

>>167075367
>Yes and those are the two characters we play.
just saying both are OP

>>167075349
Right as or a little before they make contact with you.

>>167075367
I definitely went up against both FTE guys and destroyed them with Raider.

>>167075420
typical reddit poster

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>>167075420
https://strawpoll.de/sere8b2

Forgot poll link. I hate myself

>>167075367
Dueling another warlord that was abusing headbutt 50/50 didn't really seem that rough once I figured it out. I just never tried dodging and ate the tiny chip damage, Even while I was out of stamina I could still parry and tech everything
Shoulderbash just doesn't feel beatable. The most I can do is reset to neutral. I can dodge the first shoulderbash relatively well now but the follow ups feel too quick. Though in one video I did see someone unlock to get an instant roll and get out of the 2nd shoulder bash.

>>167075458
no,its normal.
You think what will happen to her if she got captured?

>>167075349
Replay the tutorial and don't brush passed the extra practice part????

>>167075586
Locked away, so nobody would have to look at her face. Why do you think she hides her face?

>>167075548
>with Raider
how embarrassing

>>167073928
Oh, so I didn't actually miss all those parries then. Does that mean controllers just need better input detection to be on par with KB&M?

>>167075652
>Does that mean controllers just need better input detection to be on par with KB&M?
Did you even read my wall of text?

It's all in here >>167074414

>>167075480
Both have tools to deal with the insane defense mechanics.
The problem is more characters don't have good tools.

>>167075584
The only way to chase down a roll is if they are near a wall/corner.
You can flip a coin and go for light attack to beat shoulder cancel guardbreak.

what is the fastest way to level up when the game releases? dominion?

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>>167060116

>>167075756
>Both have tools to deal with the insane defense mechanics.
>The problem is more characters don't have good tools.
precisely

I wonder how Shugoki, Valkyrie and Lawbringer will play out if they got any rework.

>>167075773
>it's "an orochi keeps spamming dash attacks even though they're not working" episode
I hate reruns

>>167075115
Low level play is more exciting than high-level play.

In high level play, people focus on playing as safe as possible and winning.

In low level play, people plan on the move and attack when they can. You can actually see the struggle in their fights, and sometimes they pull off gamble moves you wouldn't normally expect that actually work.

>>167075850
I wish matchmaking was connection based and skill level wasn't a factor

>>167075850
if nothing else, For Honor will be good for a few months to shit on all the retards before the meta eventually gets stale.

Anyone waiting to buy on sale rather than buying at launch is robbing themselves of the entire experience.

>>167075992
>For Honor will be good for a few months to shit on all the retards before the meta eventually gets stale
Whose fault is it? The game's or the players'?

>>167075850
Yeah that's why I'm actually going to play Dominion unless they really listen and change up the mechanics.
At least in Dominion there is excitement.

>>167076056
The game (in a 1v1 context) is too shallow.

>>167075324
I want to see Nobushi have her ass ravaged by holy Knight cock.

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>>167060116

>>167076056
all ubisoft has to do is give incentive to attack. currently defending has more benefits because they can safely wait for openings and mistakes.

>>167076123
>start fighting someone
>orochi comes out of nowhere to backstab you
LIKE
CLOCKWORK

Raider yells out:

"Ég ríf þig í bita!" means "I will rip you to pieces!", "Ég drep þig!" means "I will kill you!"

>>167075636
Fine by me, I'd rather cum all over her mask anyways.

>>167076096
>Yeah that's why I'm actually going to play Dominion unless they really listen and change up the mechanics.
>At least in Dominion there is excitement.
pretty much

In Dominion you don't have time to turtle and if someone turtles you can bring your friend and force a 2v1. One of you guard breaks and even if he techs while he's teching he can't block.

>>167076123
fem conq actually looks kinda cool, makes me wanna try the class afterall

>>167076336
they should make a more reliable way to stop overly defensive tactics than guard break

>>167076245
Do you know what the Latin is that the Knights yell?

>>167076252
My knigger

>>167076465
any ideas?

>>167076607
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1561663-Combat-Criticism-and-Commentary

>>167076607
maybe make it so blocking too many hits consecutively drains stamina? realistically it would be tiring blocking so many swings.

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>>167076410
yeah, I'm a femconq player and this has to be the first time I picked a female version of a character because I think she looks better (not sexually)
I like big characters, but male conq is huge to the point of looking comical, also the shield/left shoulder clipping is absolutely terrible

>>167076607
blocking in 1v1s should absolutely never grant you revenge points
I've seen some turtles use revenge in motherfucking duels, shit's ridiculous

>>167076494
Sadly, no.

dunno how to make webms but i have some youtube vids
https://youtu.be/uFDwnoeXFR0

>>167076756
>gif of Femconq playing jump-rope with her flail

PUREST
GIRL

>>167076676
>X Character can Heavy->Light chain on block (light attack direction able to be changed.)
Everyone can do this. If you have a combo that goes heavy --> light it does not matter if the heavy gets blocked, you can still combo.

Most noticeable with the Nobushi for me personally as she can go heavy into kick regardless of whether or not the attack was blocked.

If you meant something else it wasn't very clear.

>Also a major complaint I have is that too many attacks are punishable on BLOCK.
>See: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=693476689 for more details.
I did not know that, that makes conqueror one of the strongest classes in my opinion all of a sudden.

is it better to replicate the opponent's stance or default it to whatever their most dangerous attack is?

>>167078724
>default it to whatever their most dangerous attack is
this

stuff like warden zone attack becomes way less of an issue if you rest guard to your left and react to the rest accordingly

>>167078724
Against everyone but warden I just replicate. Against warden I always keep the guard to the left and pay a ton of attention to top attack and not much to right unless they're unlocked, at which point I default to right.

>>167076123
>Trying to team up on a conq
>ever

They got what they deserved.

>>167078850
>stuff like warden zone attack becomes way less of an issue if you rest guard to your left
*top light attacks u*

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>>167060116

>>167078505
>I did not know that, that makes conqueror one of the strongest classes in my opinion all of a sudden.

He is a turtle hero. Sit back, relax and wait for the enemy to come to you. Conq will always be strong because of his turtle and shield bash.

Players just need to use feint more often and get the grab on conq to turn him into a bitch.

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Quick /fhg/, whats your tier rating for the classes in For Honor?

>>167079285
>Players just need to use feint more often
feint does nothing if someone just sits there blocking to punish you

>>167079473
SHUGOKI STRONG
EVERYONE ELSE LITTLE BABY MAN

>>167079473
god tier: warden
shit tier: everyone else

>>167079542
Feint into block....like I said

>>167079473
S - Warden
A - Warlord, Nobushi
B - Kensei, Conqueror
C - Orochi, Peacekeeper, Beserker, Raider

>>167079581
so you're speaking from the conquerors perspective?

>>167079473
A: Warden
B: PeaceKeeper, Nobushi, Conqueror, Warlord
C: Kensei, Raider
D: Orochi, Berserker

>>167079619
>Conqueror
>B Tier

Ya'll must play with/against some shitty conqs

>>167079703
No, I'm speaking from the attacking side. Mixups are the only way to open up conq and get some damage in.

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>>167065876
>>167075773
>kept crying about orochi's iframe dodge+slash because I thought it's supposed to be too fast to block
>turns out it was my controller's input lag
>the character I was assblasted about is perfectly fine

>>167079578
>>167079579
>>167079619
>>167079706

Thank you lads. Now I have a rough idea how much proper "fun" to have.

>like berserker but its weaker than a lot of the others
>can't buff berserker because they would be too strong

gonna be a hard character to balance.

>>167079851
>>turns out it was my controller's input lag
it's not input lag you moron

>>167080008
what the fuck is it then you shitcockpussyniggerfaggot

>>167079804
>mixups
lol

none of that shit is fast enough to get through if you have any decent sort of reflexes

>>167080080
changing guard takes time, see

>>167073928
>>167074414

The controller reacts in time, but the character cannot change guard because its animation locked

>>167080080
brain lag
sorry lad, you're retarded

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So for someone who's tried Lawbringer, what kind of tools does he have?
What are his strong points?
Would it be easy to transition to LB for someone who only has experience with Conqueror?

>>167080238
I heard he's a poke champ, however this question is null because he is being reworked due to being vastly inferior to every other character.

>>167080238
>what kind of tools does he have?
he throws you around
>what are his strong points
he's good for ganking with in dominon
no strong points in a 1v1
>Would it be easy to transition to LB for someone who only has experience with Conqueror?
The game is really simple I don't see why not
Interested to see how he'll be buffed
Using him in the last tech test was basically
>use one of your special WWE throws that deal no damage
>opponent gets up to block before you can hit them with anything

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>>167080373
>>167080387
Well that's discomforting

>>167080113
And you think most people playing this game have those reflexes? 90% of people have never played a fighting game which is evident from the amount of crying people do.

Mixups are there as a mindgame when it comes to opening up someone. They aren't going to fall for it again so you just go and try something else to get in them. Conq can't sit there all day perfectly reading the attacker unless the attacker is brain dead. It's on the attacker is initiate and the defender to reply, he isn't going to be right every time.

The lack of For Honor smut is very disappointing. I was hoping for images of Nobushi drowning in cum as dozens of Vikings hold her down and repeatedly blast their seed on her masked face, but alas.

>>167080212
shit's inconvienient, but maybe I'll somehow manage to get used to it now that I know how it's supposed to work
if not then I'll just switch to K+M I guess
>>167080231
:(

>>167080498
I have never played a fighting game either. My genre of choice is MMORPGs, a genre notorious for its slow paced combat.

My reaction times already are pretty bad and I still manage.

Try getting any kind of light attack through a good player without getting blocked, you're just asking to be parried.

>>167080546
>if not then I'll just switch to K+M I guess
mouse and keyboard will have the exact same issues, except now you're controlling with a mouse and a keyboard.

The game literally CANNOT react to your input because you're animation locked from a previous input. There is no lag, there's only you, having made a mistake.

>>167079851
I've found that it's not input lag but instead it's the on screen prompt fucking with my timing. If i watch the characters movement i can block or dodge most attacks but as soon as i start looking at that shitty flashing shield, Spaghetti starts falling out of my coin pouch.

>>167080705
I realise that it's my mistake. Thing is, I'm used to using the right stick like that, so I'll need to develop a new habit. I've been using the X360 controller for years, so it'll obviously be rather difficult and I might have to switch to K+M because of that.

>>167080736
you can turn the flashing shield off in the HUD options

I've been wondering myself if playing without HUD would make me a better player in the long run.

>>167080523
Japs are already aware. Hold on. http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag_full&word=Forhonor

Reminder that Vikings used mushrooms to go "berserk", committed infanticide by leaving their kids out in the wild to die in the cold if they crippled in any way or were born girls, which made them start raiding other villages to kidnap women and performed child sacrifices

>>167080996
Nice. I needed a few more reasons to play vikings over knights.

>>167080996
>committed infanticide by leaving their kids out in the wild to die in the cold if they crippled in any way
I don't see why this is wrong
Such a nu-male way of thinking, to INTENTIONALLY weaken the gene pool

>>167081042
>Needed a few more reasons to sympathize with savage druggie nordic niggers

>>167080831
nice, i'll have to do that when the open beta happens.

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>>167080387
>Strong when he already has advantage in a gank
>No duel strengths
You just wrecked my hype anon.

>>167081113
>I don't see why this is wrong
cause you would have died many, many years ago

>>167081196
for the greater good
I'm just a leech now

>>167075628
Didn't the tutorial end after the point capture?

>>167081181
look at the bright side, they're definitely reworking him since he's obviously so weak

>>167081113
>>167081042
Vikings were also 5'11'' on average.

>>167078043
if you're gonna make a video with music, you gotta at least use neutral music

>>167081339
nah, there's another tutorial teaching you parry and shit which also grants you another 1500 currency

Why do people think peacekeeper is OP when orochi does everything she does but better? Other than the grab and stab she has nothing on orochi.

>>167081494
that is actually correct, but the grab and stab is so powerful against 90% of the player base, it makes up for it on average

>>167081494
Because grab and stab is all you need. Especially off of a parry.

>>167081645
>off of a parry
oh yeah, there's also that

if you can parry, Peacekeeper is way, way,way stronger than Orochi

>>167081494
It's just the grab, once people get into the habit of countering her guard break she's going to be pretty meh as her only attack that gets her in always lands high and can't be cancelled out of unlike half of the orochis moves.

>>167080996
the mentally retarded were let out on the battlefield sold a story about how they are the embodiment of animal spirits so yeah...

>>167081384
Average height during the medieval ages was around 5'8. So that does make sense.

Modern day Scandinavian average height is 6'2.

Modern day British height is 5'11, and American 5'8. German is 5'10 and French is like 5'7.

>>167081754
>and French is like 5'7
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN

>>167081645
>>167081712

Well to be fair every character is a rape machine off of a part, peacekeeper just has the highest damage off of a guard break. I really hated how strong parry was, when you and your opponent know what's up it becomes a game of who attacks first dies.

>>167081712
>if you can parry

if you can't parry the majority of attacks aginst you you shouldn't be talking about balancing

parrying is piss easy

>>167081754
>average height for medieval was 5'8
>everyone else has grown
>the french shrunk

KEK

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>>167081368
I can see that, but now I'm kinda afraid they're gonna make him focused on cooperation with other classes. Since I'm basically only interested in 1v1.