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No dignity edition

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>>166778338

>What is this?
A place to discuss all rogue-lites and related games and topics. Examples: The Binding of Isaac, Nuclear Throne, Enter the Gungeon, Faster than Light, Spelunky, and Rogue Legacy.

>List of Some Rogue-lites (W.I.P)
http://pastebin.com/rwnYefeG

>Steam Rogue-lites
http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Rogue-lite/#p=0&tab=NewReleases

>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rogue-lite

>EtG character ideas
http://pastebin.com/Up96YEYk

>/ntg/ Pastebins
Character Ideas http://pastebin.com/JnGYReQj
Crown Ideas http://pastebin.com/TjhD5NAk
Soundmods http://pastebin.com/bAtMbDCV
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>>167005728
I really don't think the general will die, or for now at least
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>>167006005
It died once already.
Hopefully we get more shit to talk about this time around.
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As Keeper is it better to just try for angel rooms even if you can take a deal?

Also jesus christ I've never not had my run ended by this room
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The playable characters so cute!! I wanna take care of them!
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Is there any reason to use huntress over the marine? The dog doesn't do anything and the crossbow stops one shooting after the first floor.
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>>167006207
If you desperately want holy mantle, sure.
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>>167006247
kindly leave

>>167006252
her gun is the 2nd best after the marine's, and the crossbow is still useful at the oubliette and the 2nd floor.
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>>167006371
>kindly leave
Why though?
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>>167006138
True, but since Antibirth was only December while Afterbirth+ just January.
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>>167006247
I want to hug_ Lilith and Azazel!
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I know Black Judas awards Judas a completion mark but does it also award one for the original character you were playing as?
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oh shit
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>>167007625
nope
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>been a while since I played, can't remember exactly what I unlocked
>unlock keeper
>already have completion marks despite never playing him
>okay well I guess I just have to use steam achievements to see what I unlocked
>kill it lives with keeper
>die in cathedral
>don't unlock the co-op baby

does this mean my save is permanently fucked? It looks like it's just never gonna let me unlock stuff

I'm gonna be pissed if I have to go through and unlock keeper again
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>>167005728
What part is this a reference to? Im not recognizing the reference
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>>167008336
part 4
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>>166778338 →167002017
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>>167008413
Ya i should have known by the file name im just starting part 6 so part 4 beign awhile ago is my excuse
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>>167008091
>>kill it lives with keeper
>>die in cathedral
>>don't unlock the co-op baby
Were you playing on Hard? If yes, I don't know what happened.
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Gungeon goal: Casey only run.
Just died to the Beholster, so this may take a while.
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>>167010103
and this time i flawlessed the meduzi, not that that's an accomplishment
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I have a feeling this is going to go poorly
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Whats your favorite boss /lite/?
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>>166965816
i'm here
that's sound really fucking rad
i would love to see that
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>>166965816
>>167012510
thompson get out you furry faggot
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>>167012415
King Conga for his theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUAq7-YpO0w
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>>167007834
Take it or no balls.
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>>167012952
Too late.
Already dead by Hornfel.
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>>167013048

>Hornfel

god I hate that rat bastard.
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>>167011392
fug, the dragun's going to be an obstacle
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>doing Normal runs for Five Nights at Mom's
>Really good Cain run
>Infestation 2
>Guppy (Hairball + Collar + Head)
>Car Battery
>Succubus
>Pill Baby
>SMB Super Fan
>The Mark
>Spider Mod
>9 Tails
>Pill Bottle
>Tech X
>Taurus
>Cricket Head
>Mom's Wig
>Sack Head
Also took Negative because might as well go for Rerun too. Too bad there's no Hive Mind.
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RICHEST KID
IN THE WORLD
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I'm God.
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>>167015335
jams externally
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>>167016021
I'm gonna live forever.
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Why am I the only one posting? Is no one else doing any run of any kind? Gungeon? Necrodancer? NT?
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>>167017342
i keep hitting the keys for bomb at not-exactly-the-same time and fucking up my eli runs
i should probably bind it to a key already
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>>167017984
OH SHIT HERE WE GO
SECOND LAMB KILL
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>>167012706
Hes mine to i love the whole thing
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>>167017984
I got through it without rebinding but it would definitly be easier if you did
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>>167017342
I can bitch about those 3 games and why they were pretty much forgotten if you want
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Do you lose items randomly in Victory Laps? Or is it in order of the first ones you got onward? I'd rather keep my max speed Taurus safety combo if it's gonna turn me into The Lost on Run 3.
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>>167020072
Whats your beef with necrodancer
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>>167020072
""""forgotten""""
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>>167020507
Nothing, i love the game, but it never got too popular because most people can't into multitask
Doesn't help that it may be the hardest game to let's play on youtube
>>167020569
How many people outside of this thread still plays an of these games?
Hell most people onthis thread stopped giving a shit, just look at the IP, i don't like it either but common dude
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>>167021052
Gungeon and Necrodancer are still being talked about, and contrary to what you might think, a fuckton of people play these two, ESPECIALLY after the major updates they had.
Nuclear Throne was abandoned, so of course no one talks about it.
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>Playing Ultra Hard challenge while Bingewatching series on Netflix
>Good run with Epic Fetus
>No good Deals with the Devil, no flight
>Get blank card and Sun card
>Only 6 heart containers but doing right
>Get companion run, might as well use it
>Keep playing on autopilot
>Notice my health is pretty low, only one run to recharge
>Realise what i did

Welp, there goes my run, fuck.
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>>167012510
Neat. Do you have any ideas on how you'd want the character to play? Aside from the fact that custom sounds aren't possible (the only way to handle them would cause desyncs with online, or something of that nature), the sky's the limit.
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>>167022320
can you NOT support that furfag
there are so many better characters in the pastebins
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>>167022385
I've made half of them already.
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>>167022496
oh
well then finish it up and keep up the good work, i just don't like autists receiving any good content
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So when are they gonna port Antibirth into Afterbirth+?

I'd love to get some of that delicious garlic butter on my steak.
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>>167022632
I don't really mind making stuff for any of the oldfags from /ntg/. If I'm provided with sprites and some specifications, I'll make it.

Here's this also
http://pastebin.com/zG52teuF

Most of the characters are just missing sprites, or were simply half-finished. That's where things stand currently, though.
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>>167024860
trust me, he's not an old fag, and i don't even had that much experience with him as much as other people
but i really like the progress you've done, especially how you've done my idea that i have already forgotten about
when are you gonna publish it or something?

>>167024813
they're trying to do it, but tyrone isn't responding
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>>167025225
The mods function with NTT, so when NTT's next update goes live, these mods also will shortly after.

On the topic of NTT modding, here's a thing from the guy that made Custom Throne and the Community Remix
>gfycat /VastPreciousFawn
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>>167025225
?Trust me, he's not an old fag
I was unaware you could tell how long a person has been posting on 4chan even if they never use a name.
>Inb4 basing it off when the sprite popped up
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>>167024860
glad to see bird on the list
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>>167025225
>they're trying to do it, but tyrone isn't responding

For real?
Does he not realize how amazing that would be?
Is he completely oblivious to what's going on in the community of his game?
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>shit speed
>shit tear rate
>can't take 90% of devil deals

Literally how the fuck are you supposed to play this guy it feels like you need godly luck just to get to Cathedral
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>>167027339
Literally who?
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>>167027339
Keeper? Unlock Swallowed Penny if you didn't, and try get it no matter what.
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>>167027415
this guy

>>167027434
I don't think I've done that challenge, guess I'll go for it
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>>167027190
>For real?
Yes.
>Does he not realize
Could be:
>Actually missed their messages and doesn't check Reddit to see people calling out to him
>Is intentionally ignoring them because he's mad they completely overshadowed his work
>Some other bullshit
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just how the fuck do i git gud at necrodancer?
or is it just quick thinking skills?
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>>167028559
Thinking takes too long. Necrodancer is all about reflex and burning enemy movement patterns into your brain. There's no easy way to do it, just play over and over until you know how everything moves.
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>>167028559
Quick thinking with the knowledge that you're playing a Rogue-like in real time.
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>>167028731
what about bolt and coda?i tried playing bolt but i feel like i simply am not capable of holding rythm at that speed
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>>167028818
You just have to play over and over and over until you're perfect. Practice practice practice.
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>now you could actually see Delirium
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>>167025225
Also, here's a brief rundown on how NTT modding works: You write shit into text files, you load the text files, and the text files do things. Simple, right?

Most of the interpreter is just plain GML (with some functions blacklisted), but yal also added support for a wait(); function, ternary arguments, and other neat bits that have been pushing the actual release of the modding update back for a while. It's gonna be great.
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should I give antibirth a try before afterbirth?
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>>167030006
nah antibirth is OP fan fiction modshit
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>speed so fucking low I die to a mega troll bomb spawned by the cup game
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>>167030006
Sure
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>>167030006
The quality of the additions in Antibirth is WAY above what you will find in any official expansion.
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>>167030046
t. mad steak chef

it's better than AB+ in every way
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>>167030006
It's alright but not finished and it also needs bugfixes and balancing. But it's still way above the average mod quality.
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THIS IS IT
THIS DECIDES WHETHER I GET RERUN OR DIE LIKE A BITCH BECAUSE NO HOLY MANTLE

I JUST HAVE TO RELY ON SPIDERS AND TAURUS INVINCIBILITY WITH A SUPER MEAT BOY AND SAC DAGGER
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Can someone post this to steakmund's twitter or something? I really would like to know if this is steak is supposed to be this raw or if the chef accidentally took it off the stove too quickly.

In case it isn't clear:
I have Host Hat
I die on the Delirium version of Mom's Foot.
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>>167031432
>me in charge of cropping
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>>167031432
Intredasting
Maybe it has collision damage as well as explosion, unlike the original
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>>167031432
Maybe Host Hat isn't powerful enough, do you think Pyromaniac doesn't protect from the Foot either?
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Is it true that necrodancer is much more popular in asia?
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>Been playing all day Ultra Hard challenge
>New run with red chest that sends me to Santa
>Get Abbadon and Satanic Bible
>Finish basement full of black hearts
>Next devil deals are shit like Brother Bobby and Guppy's Paw
>Get Tiny Planet, run is ruined
>Lets get the devil deals maybe it's worth it
>Krampus, god damn it
>Lump of coal, Tiny planet now does decent damage
>Next floors are shit as well but keep good health
>Beat womb and mom's heart, down to 1 red heart and 3 black hearts
>Final devil deal
>Brimstone
>Become a whirling laser of death
>Finish the challenge like a typical run

All challenges finished in less than a week, HOT DAMN.
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First Greedier, Mom's Bottle of Pills literally carried the run with Bad Trip/Full Health.
What's better to do first?
Mom's Heart, current challenges or more Greed/Greedier?
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>>167032240
I'm doing Rerun myself.
Relying on instant Taurus proc, so I can zoom in and kill the enemy with Sacrificial Dagger. Every kill gives me a blue spider thanks to based Infestation 2. Every time a blue spider kills an enemy, they also spawn a blue spider to replace the one that killed them. Carrying double Algiz on top of potentially having double Dead Cat, because you can never know what shit can happen. Also Smelted AAA Battery and Lucky Rock in an earlier loop, and I have Sack Head too, so now I have endless consumables and can live forever if I don't fuck up.
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>>167033125
grind out greed/greedier that way you never have to do them again. Also there are some decent unlocks there, like holy mantle for the lost. Might want to get the lost first, though, just incase the game shits itself.
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I'm going to fucking shit myself. No matter how good a keeper run I get some bullshit will always deal 2 damage to me in one second eventually, even if I have a coin in the room you can't fucking save yourself

>not a SINGLE fucking damage up and still made it to it lives only to die then

mother

FUCKER
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>hey guise i got a mod that gives me 12 hearts and 100 damage and brimstone in the first room xDD the game is finally fun!!! lel stekmaymay
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>>167033285
Well, now I will try Greed and then Greedier with Lazarus
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>>167032021
Popular enough to get official Dangan Ronpa mods, at least

I don't know if the remixes are just copy pasted soundtracks from the original franchise but they sound great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWr4bMRIpZk
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beat dragun for the first time yesterday after dropping the game for several months

feels pretty good
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>>167033895
That's a remix, but it's a fucking good one.
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WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
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>Lost Taurus and almost all my good shit
>Still have damage ups
>Fortune machine in arcade gives me Missing Poster and Safety Scissors
>Devil Deal has YET ANOTHER DEAD CAT
Is the steak finally paying off?
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>>167035187
>>167034628
>they think getting RERUN is hard
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Does anyone have that standalone Antibirth download link?

It included Antibirth already installed with Rebirth, that's the only way I could ever get it to work.
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>>167011310
Jesus fucking christ
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>>167015335
>telepathy for dummies
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How do I unlock 1000000%
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>>167036394
Only good spacebar item I had access to that early on, replaced it with Pause.

>>167035448
It's not. I see that now. It's just that at any point I could have lost the key things that got me this far (Pause, Sac Dagger, Taurus, Infestation 2, 9 Lives, etc.) but I got lucky. 4th cycle, and I lost all of those except Sac Dagger, and relying on Guppy Flies and Holy Shot to get the job done.
Since it's automatically Hard Mode, and I have like two Dead Cats plus Collar again, I'm going for Delirium.
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Thanks Sinus Infection and Ludovico, honorable mention to Robes, those guys who come from the doors were annoying while I had to dodge everything on sight
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Does anyone have a download for the Antibirth OST?

>>167036998
>taking 3 Dollar Bill

WHAT IS RONG WITB U
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>>167037190
That floor didn't have a Restock machine so that's the best I could found.
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Only Greedier left.
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>>167037916
>unlocked Holy Card more than three weeks ago
>only found two so far
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>Got Isaac for Xmas, played 40hrs already
>Finally got to Hush tonight
>Takes like 20mins to kill

Jesus christ I thought that Big Horn had a lot of HP.

Was doing it with Dr. Fetus and Crying Bombs (Where the bombs shoot tears) and it took forever

Literally only got hit once though
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>>167038928
Hush has HP scaling,that's why he takes so long to kill.
Same with Big Horn, from what I've heard.
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>>167038928
Big Horn doesn't have a lot of HP, he has Damage Reduction, meaning the more damage you do, the less damage you do.
You can get rid of Big Horn's by making him eat a bomb.
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>>167039096
>>167039062
Ahh I see, I've been trying to avoid all the spoilers I can

Also I just unlocked "It Lives" (I had like 7 heart kills and then I got my progress reset), plus my autismal insistence on doing the boss rush even if I am woefully underpowered

Should I start doing things as someone else? Who else is fun.
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>>167039209
Cain is fun, Judas is fun, Azazel is gay, EDEN IS GOD
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>>167037190
What's wrong with 3 Dollar Bill?
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>>167039480
Nothing, he's just one of those babies that hates randomness. People like him usually main azazel for 'consistency'.
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>>167039673
But my main is Eve, anon.
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>>167039943
>I am a queer
that's nice, good for you?
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Has anyone in the world unlocked all the Afterbirth+ achievements yet?
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>>167040603
Only cheaters since one of the achievements is playing the Daily Run for an entire month.
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>>167040603
>Achievements for 31 days of Dailies
>There have only been 28
Nope.
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>check character selection screen
>win streak: 4
>go with Azazel for the easy clear
>almost fuck it up by getting Polyphemus in the first item room and getting all the charge time in the world
>almost fuck it up even harder by getting Ipecac in the Chest and making it worse while also somehow firing an Ipecac shot every so often while charging
>still manage to do it
Now I have to ask what is the fucking point of tinted rocks that take 2 bombs to break for 2 times the reward, effectively doing nothing other than wasting your time
Do you at least see more tinted rocks overall because they're different?
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>>167041352
I can assure you that these rocks Haha, just kidding. I unlocked them days ago and have yet to see one.
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>>167006247
I agree, isaac is a qt
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>>167041352
They seem rare, or I've missed them. Both are very possible.
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I can't choose
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>>167045251
>That late
Sissy.
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>>167045251
Here is a hint: Try bombing all the stones in the treasure rooms. I found that on almost every Hush floor there's a Craw Space you can find easily.
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>completing ten victory laps doesn't unlock something special
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>>167047006
>having full attendance on dailies for a month is an achievement
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>>167047502
>tfw housemate fucked up the internet contract and now we're not gonna have any internet during February
>tfw might try to find an insecure WLAN connection around town to get the achievement
>tfw "Dedication" was meant to be taken literally
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>>167047876
I mean, it is called dedication.
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Remember that Isaac pic from last thread?
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>Big Honk
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>>167051659
This is not okay.
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>>167051684
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>>167051781
STOP
YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR
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I just tried lilith. I think soy milk and coal was the combo that gave me disgusting damage. Is this generally what happens if I combine them or is it the character somehow?
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tfw take a chance on a d1 room with lilith of all characters and come out winning with some funky ludovico tech + tiny planet shit
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>>167054176
Soy Milk nerfs the SHIT out of your damage, but Lump of Coal adds extra damage based on how far your tears have traveled which ignores the damage nerf form the milk. It's just one of those great things.
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>Trying to beat game with Lilith
>Get Brimstone in 5th floor, mom fight should be easy
>24 Minutes in, can't get to Boss Rush, i'll just kill mom and rush womb for Hush
>Insta-teleport to Void

Th-thanks for the steak Edmund...
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>>167057135
God damn it, used the Strength to get some HP and Deliriums teported into me TWICE.

HOLY SHIT EDMUND.
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>>167057252
>Expecting your Steak anything except deep fried alongside two footballs
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>>167054176

>have no idea what's going on
>somehow still alive
I can get behind this
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dicks
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>This specific character starts off with 8 strength.
>Choose to start with the God of War for +1 attack on every tile uncovered (up to +10 attack) which reverts back to normal on every floor.
>Character's passive effect is +1 attack for every defeated monster on a floor (which reverts back on every new floor).
>The starting hatchet with 4 strength ends up translating into a fucking attack power of 30 fifteen turns into every floor if you approach it sensibly.
Holy shit this is over-powered.
I love it.
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>>167060872
What game?
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>>167061165
Runestone Keeper.
I got it from one of the recent Humble Bundles. I think it's pretty neat.
It's got some balancing issues and some annoying grinding required to unlock permanent buffs/run-specific bonuses but I find the turn-based combat, unlocking the grid to reveal hidden traps, treasures and enemies, RPG mechanics and balancing your use of attacks, items and spells to be a very enjoyable experience.
The balancing issues are probably the biggest problem. There are certain characters that just make everything a cakewalk if you know what you're doing and by playing on Hard and using a specific Runeword (essentially a run modifier that changes a specific function in the next run to make things more difficult in exchange for a bigger score multiplier at the end of your run), you can earn around 10,000-18,000 gold at the end of run instead of what would normally be a bonus of 500 gold.

There's a lot to love but some annoying design decisions like that. It's definitely worth at least a pirate.
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>>167061929
can't find a torrent bruv
doesn't look worth 10 dollaroos either too bad i missed the bundle
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Breath of life finally has a use! If you suck it up with the void it will say at 5/6 charges after using it.
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>>167063972
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>>167063972
That steaks seems to be overcooked, let me get you a new one.
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>>167063832
That's fair enough.
I wish more developers would just put out demos. People are more willing to buy a game if they can actually play it first.
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>>167036154
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does the workshop mods disable cheevos on necrodancer?
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>>167068001
I think spritework changes and other cosmetic changes are fine, but don't quote me on that.
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So I pirated rebirth, but whenever I launch it it makes necrodancer start failing to launch until I restart steam. What the heck
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>Enter the GUNgeon
>best weapon is a baseball bat
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>>167051114
Saved.
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>>167051659
>>167051684
>>167051781
>>167051818
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>>167069697

>Implying the baseball bat is the best
>when Gunther exists
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>>167069697
>The Binding of ISAAC
>Best character isn't Isaac
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Is there a way to set up the fullscreen resolution on Antibirth?
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>>167070232
But he's most fun
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>>167070202
quick someone post the webm of the bullet destroying a room with casey in style
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>>167069697
It's a heretical cursed bat though, not a pure weapon like the others.
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ahahaha


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>167070532
>implying curse is a downside
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Yo im watching Northernlion play games other than BoI

it was a mistake
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Okay this is getting pretty hilarious.

Seed is GKVB 9TYZ
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>>167070648
No Hanged Man anywhere?
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>>167071529
Nope.
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>>167021052
Thats true it is pretty difficult to talk and play at the same time. None of the other rouge-lites are really popular except issac right?
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Go fuck yourself Satan
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>>167072180
>filename
>being above 1 heart as eve ever
sounds like someone needs to git gud
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>>167072289
I picked up the heart after I beat the boss because there was a bloodbank outside.

Besides, Lil brim does most of the damage anyways.
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>NL still doesn't know how to use Mine Crafter
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>having a fucking OP as fuck run
>Dark bum
>proptosis
>steven
>goat head
>pyro
>curse of the blind
>devil deal
>red chest gives me fucking cursed eye
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>have a heart challenge
>first pill in the run is full health
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>>167017342
Multiple reasons

1: Isaac is far and away the best game in this genre thanks to its variety. Gungeon, NT, SR and Dungeon Souls tend to feel far more samey each run. You generally won't feel as weak as Isaac can leave you but not as stupidly strong either

2: Isaac has a very good wiki. If you want to ask something its faster to just google it.
Contrast this to roguelikes which do very well on VG where it has an absurd number of forks of games and the best way to find something out can be to just ask, giving the thread a reason to exist.

3: Growth in these games is largely random. You can't really discuss builds unless your sat in a room with multiple nice items because you have no real control on what will spawn.
Roguelikes have both random items and let you decide ''my dragon man will be good at melee'' and you can ask ''what kind of melee is good? should i just roll a mage?''. The only one of these games that really allows that is Dungeon Souls which no one plays anyways

There is really nothing to discuss.
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>>167073280
>Isaac is far and away the best game in this genre
Subjective and also bullshit.
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Whether you like it most or not the fact it its the one most people play so don't sit here wondering ''duhh y is my general dead'' when you apparently don't even like the one game people actually play much
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>>167073545
Nice job replying to my post.
Isaac is the most well known and most mainstream roguelite, but by no means does that make it the best.
>don't even like the one game
>not thinking that a game is the best of it's genre = disliking it
ok
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>muffled rap in the distance
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>>167075117
but the lost is easy lol
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>>167075284
Tell that to Rebirth Lost, even if the pic isn't, Rebirth Lost was the equivalent of Keeper back then.
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>>167078121
but now he's easy
that's all that matters
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How rare are the demon doors in Gungeon?
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>>167078164
True, that sucks
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So all I need to do to unlock lost now is having missing poster and die in a sac room?
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>>167078952
If you have AB/+, yes.
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>>167070648
Antibirth adds a room like this in Mausoleum.
>2-wide room where an entire regular room's worth of space is islanded off from the room and 2 teleporters go around it
>Item pedestal on it
>Last one I saw had Ipecac
>On a run I desperately needed damage
>There was a Hermit card on the floor (Maus 2)
>Angel room spawned post-Mom and gave me Dead Dove
>I had already wasted the card not thinking it would happen
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>>167070648
same
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How do people get insanely high scores on the daily challenge on Afterbirth +?
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>>167078952
>>167079173
That's a shame it was better on Rebirth
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What causes Krampus' head to randomly rotate sometimes? It's really annoying to lose so much damage
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>>167080040
By doing it fast and skipping items appropriately.
They usually learn what's gonna be on the run and the map layouts ahead of time and pickups.
Either through an alt account or a friend.
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>>167080156
Krampus' Head shares the same moveset as Krampus.
>t laser
>x laser
>spinning t laser
>spinning x laser
Every time they make Krampus harder in this way, Spin was added in Afterbirth, and X (and spinning X) in +, they make his head shittier.
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>find secret room full of hearts
>dark bum scopes them all art
>spits out exclusively red hearts
>he picks up those red hearts and spits out more red hearts
>eventually collects all hearts and doesn't give out anymore

what the fuck
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>>167080334
let him pick them up and exit the room dumbass
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>>167080334
Heart Secret Rooms are coded to force all Heart drops to be full Red. That's to ensure any variance in the Heart drops is nullified.
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>>167080382
how does that in any way consistent with how dark bum normally behaves
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>>167080334
In those red rooms you only ever have red hearts.All dark bum's heart drops turn red if you let him drop them in that room. What you do it let him grab all the hearts, then leave the room. He will then give you your appropriate loot.
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>>167080382
>>167080420
>>167080457
god damn it tfw thread suddenly jumps alive to call me dumb
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is warhammer broken or what?
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all zones is a lot easier when you get the lucky charm in the first or second floor
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>>167081242
whoops that was supposed to have an image
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Anybody here use Danganronpa remix soundmod for Necrodancer? How good is it?
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Did you guys know that Big Horn does not actually occupy space on the ground and that if you use Card Against Humanity on him, he freaks out since a poop spawns on the space he should be occupying, causing him to warp infinitely back and forth between where he should be and on top of you until you are dead? I learned that recently. I wonder if this steak is supposed to taste this putrid.
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>>167078318
Pretty rare, put water in them if you can
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What triggers a hive to explode?
Want to use strategically
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>>167082710
Time.
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how do people who play coda/bolt not fuck up their hand,im trying bolt for half an hour my wrist feels like its going to come off
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>>167082783
Do you have to damage them first? Or does damage nullify it's self destruct timer?
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>>167081827
I always wondered how it would work with some bosses, do most just get stuck?
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>>167083342
Most non-flying Bosses just get stuck, yes.
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When would the first day someone gets Dedication be? Has the game been tracking participation since the first day of afterbirth+? Was it fixed with the Marathon and started tracking since the 20th? did they not fix that one yet?
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WOOOOOW
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>>167084280
It requires 31 back to back Daily completions.
We're in a 31 day month and it came out on the 3rd.
So the absolute earliest would be the 3rd of February, which is this Friday.
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>>167084561
Yes, the Charge Roulette has a chance to instantly kill you, ~1%.
Why would you even bother with it with those Items tho.
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>>167084280
Well, the first day someone gets it if it was fixed on the 20th will be February 19th.
Lets hope someone actually keeps count of their runs


>>167084561
There is a risk when you use one of those battery machines you will stop your heart, instakilling you, no matter your heart count.
There is a good reason why AntiBirth has made some mistakes when it comes to additions. You can't blame the steak this time
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>>167084561
Yeah, it's a glitch.
The Voodoo Pin can do the same.
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Not sure how I feel about the upcoming mod booster packs. On one hand free content is nice, on the other hand this game is already becoming incredibly bloated with items, characters, endings etc. It really doesn't feel like we need more shit like familiars. If they actually go through and eventually port Antibirth to AB+ it's going to be an excessive amount of content.
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>>167085401
Protip: At the year's end, the game will finally be """Content Complete""" and we can fix everything.
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>>167080040
the daily challenges are rampant with cheaters just a FYI.
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>dying on isaac as keeper

I hate this fucking character, I haven't once had a run that wasn't incredibly shit where my tears or damage literally never got an upgrade the entire fucking run
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>>167074282
Its a product. It objectively out performed all your fave games.

Srry the truth hurts famalan.
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>>167086419
>lol it's popular so its da bess
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>>167086419
>this is my favorite game that means it's THE BEST and if you think otherwise your wrong
Not him, but Anon, all you alright?
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>special rocks
>half soul hearts
why add them
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>>167086753
Because Edmund
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>>167086753
actually makes it more likely for any type of soul heart to spawn
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>>167087073
stop pushing this meme
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>>167087073
They replace Soul hearts. Do not spread misinformation.
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>>167087183
Someone tested it, they replace red hearts.

The problem is that items that give specifically soul hearts can also give half soul hearts instead.
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>>167087571
So they replace red hearts AND soul hearts.
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>die against kc because every zombie drops a single gold coin and i was trying to bait armadillos
this is the worst character
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>>167086534
Objectively yes.

>>167086547
Its nowhere near my fave game famalan. I like Starward Rogue more and I like actually roguelikes more than I like it.

Srry you guys can't handle the truth
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>>167088036
>it's a roguelikefag baiting
should've known Tbh
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>>167088364
>anyone that doesn't have ADHD like me is baiting
good post, you really showed him
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>>167088036
dungeons of dredmore is the best roguelike
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>>167088452
Quite.

>>167088573
Sir this is roguelite general why are you discussing an actual roguelike.
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>>167088573
>Not TOME
Dredmor has a really comfy style and is enjoyable, but come on now.

That said, they all pale in comparison to the big three.
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>>167085158
So you stab yourself in the heart by accident, instead of your arm?
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is any game with randomly generated maps and permadeath a roguelite?
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>don't wanna buy AB+ or install antibirth until after I finish afterbirth
>doing everything on hard with keeper and the lost
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>>167089349
ditch afterbirth
install antibirth
experience fun
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>>167089349
>there exist people
>who have trouble
>with AB Lost or Keeper
lel
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>>167089445
are you memeing, Lost is a bit easier since you can fly and take devil deals and have decent speed, Keeper just feels awful to try and win with (I honestly really hate triple shot as an item if you're not synergizing it with brimstone or something)
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>>167089335
Yes.
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>>167089335
Yes. They used to try to post about these games in the Roguelike general but got rightly shunned.
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i thought there was a thing in the op/pastebin about what constitutes a roguelike
apparently there isn't
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>>167090724
I'm not sure why you'd ever think that considering this is /lite/ and not /rlg/
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>>167091997
whoops i meant roguelite
i know for a fact that rlg has one for theirs but they're more picky
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I liked Delirium.
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>>167093313
>Delirium
I hope you like Host Hat doesn't protect you from Delirium's Mom Foot
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>Jacob and Esau
>Make it to The Chest by the skin of my teeth
>Die against Super Lust thanks to my low speed and Mom's extremely dull knife
>Respawn as the secret Blackface character
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>>167093313
jojo reference?
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>>167093313
Me too
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Should I keep this run? I feel like this is too meme for my tastes. Bosses take forever.
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>>167095568
First check what is on the Treasure room.
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>>167095690
Interesting.
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>>167095815
Keep it just to see what happen later
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Just came up with an idea.
>Antigravity Tears + Pause
>Unlike regular tears when paused, Antigravity Tears can be placed in the air with no cap (or a high one) until Pause ends
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>>167095867
Update: it was awful
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>>167097573
Usually the ones who can win with Soy Milk without Libra are tryhards.
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>>167011310
Can someone post that webm where the guy with sad bombs, brimstone and The Tower memed on Delerium?
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What is the best stat and why is it luck?
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>>167098484
Because Applel exists
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>>167098484
Tears > Damage > Luck > Speed > Range > Shot Speed > Sin > Faith
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>>167098783
Speed is the worst, 2bh.

You don't need to go fast in this game.
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>>167098848
>You don't need to go fast
I had a run with .6 speed the other day cause
>Small Rock into blind pick the Virus
You need Speed.
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>>167098848
t. died to a troll bomb he couldn't outrun
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>>167098938
Thank you for your completely nonsensical contribution.
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>>167096208
>What is Eyes with Projectile Style
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>>167096208
Is this a JoJo reference?
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>>167098848
there are rooms where you will literally be unable to avoid getting hit 1-2 times if you don't have enough speed
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>>167099876
Then that's just bad game design. What am I to do if I'm stuck at base speed?
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>Ultra Greed phase 2

how are you supposed to do this with the lost

keeper might actually be better in that scenario because of the coins he drops, but god damn it really seems impossible to not get hit with all the bullshit
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>>167100004
go fuck yourself and chew your steak slowly
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>>167100078
Literally move from one corner to the next. It's easy as shit
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>challenge mode
>have really good run
>lol jk high dragun instantly kills you

Did edmund design this game mode?
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>>167100773
jojo reference??????????
git gud btw
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>game based around RNG
>complain about "bad game design" when you have a bad run
>mfw
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>>167100004
>Then that's just bad game design
welcome to the inherent clash with rpg stats determining performance in an action game
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>>167101605
I was unaware Keeper could spawn with >2 HP by random chance.
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>>167093474
Seriously? That's dumb
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>>167093474
That sounds like a very minor thing to complain about, even though they should fix it.
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>>167102746
>fix it
but anon
it's a feature(tm)
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>>167102284
>>167102746
Not the anon who died but that's showed here
>>167031432
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Post Isaac confessions.

I use the Dyslexia seed as a name generator for my RPG Maker projects
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>>167103114
Edmund pls.

I didn't order Steak Tartare.
You could at least have the decency to cook it first, instead of just slapping an egg on it.
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>>167100078
Get range, destroy the explosive coins, check the doors what will shoot Brimstone, and aware from Greed who is going to jump on you.
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>>167101605
>make bosses with obnoxious armor
>make bosses that teleport onto you
>make rooms where damage is unavoidable if you're too slow
>lol rng

nah

>>167101965
keeper should seriously get to just pay money for devil deals to make up for him being worse than the lost
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>>167101605
hi edmund, your game sucks
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>>167099272
>>167099169
I had a run like that yesterday which won me Rerun.
Sacrificial Dagger, Taurus that instantly activates each room because max speed, Pause with The Battery, Infestation 2, smelted Lucky Rock AAA Battery and Fish Tail, Guppy LotF and Bookworm, Sack Head, Tarot Cloth, Holy Shot, repeated Dead Cats, Missing Poster, constant Algiz runes.
Still going with it, last I checked.
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>>167093474
They fix it by making Mom's foot do contact damage now.
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>a single battery completely charges delirious
W E W L A D
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>>167105779
It's a shit item anyway.
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>Half the characters begin with an active item that benefits them greatly and thus I would never want to take another active item in 99 out of 100 situations
bravo edmund
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>>167106030
Do people unironically use D4 with Lost?
I don't because I haven't unlock him yet.
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>>167106106
No, they don't, because Holy Mantle isn't hardcoded.
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>>167103957
why don't you write that in the steam review section
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>>167106396
for what purpose
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>>167106584
to make fun of the complaining
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Anyone have a Rebirth and Afterbirth key they'd like to give or sell for like $5. I've got a serious itch to play it after like 3 and a half years but i only have the original and I don't want to wait for a sale
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>>167105779
Too bad it's not that good as it looks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTFZHBapxSM
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>>167107906
Jesus Christ

It would've been cool if it only took one or twoo rooms to charge, but...

What.
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>>167107906
Were they thinking at all when they made this expansion?
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>>167108209
>Delirious doesn't even force small Bosses in Tight rooms
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>>167107906
Damn, it's the first time I see someone dies by Steven in a long time
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>>167107906
Actually I think the item has been fixed. I never had any of those problems when I used the item myself the two times I found it.
It's not very good but it does its job.
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>>167109590
Tell me when you pick it, and if you got Widow or any spider spawning boss and check if the spiders don't harm you.
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Is there an actual reason certain coins can't be picked up sometimes
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>>167110672
You have to bomb them
Also, steak
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>>167110672
They're sticky nickels, you need to bomb them
something something steak
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>>167110191
I'm pretty sure I had him spawning various things as various bosses and none hurt me. Might've just been luck, of course. Will check again next time I get it.
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What is the best trinket and why is it Nose Goblin?
please don't steak it up
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>>167110892
How it is better then Curved Horn and Safety Scissors?
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>>167110892
>people complaining AB+ didn't give them overpowered things like Knife or Brimstone
>they constantly forget Nose Goblin

fucking scrubs I tell ya
booger tears OP
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>>167110976
Nose Goblin has a pretty high trigger chance, for a Trinket, and is a great Damage Up so long as the target doesn't go underground/off the screen/teleport.
My favorite Trinket is still probably Giant Bean.
>Is really strong
>Also really Niche since it requires access to a really small pool of items to use at all
>Is mostly phased out on later floors and becomes more of a detriment due in part to big farts knocking you around more in the case of Mucormycosis and the Poison DoT not doing that much damage
But damn if it isn't fucking fun as hell getting Muc and Giant Bean Basement 1. Wish I had saved that seed.
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>>167110892
Nose Goblin is great. I also like bouncy ball as well.
The two lightbulb ones are cool too
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>Angel Deals are still total fucking garbage
>Devil Deals are always at least decent unless you roll 3 shit spawns from Red Chests
>Because of this and other reasons, Red HP is outright worse than Blue/Black HP
>Don't even need to try for Angel Deals for Mega Satan, since you can just use a Sacrifice Room or find Angel Statues in Devil Rooms now
>Instead of making Red HP and/or Angel Deals worthwhile investments, just make Devil Deals shittier with items like Dark Princes' Crown
>And add Trinkets like this
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Post Mods you wanna see added to the game.
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>>167112736
>>167112640
You see that Trinket?
>Make it an Item
>It provides nothing upon picking it up, but provides a Stat Up in a random Stat each Floor after picking it up
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>>167112640
so ring of regen except shittier and outclassed by, among other things, placenta unless you're doing sub-1m floors
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>>167113136
>he doesn't know about the legendary Smelter runs
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>>167098783
>tears>damage
lmao
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>>167113284
Smelter doesn't make Stem Cell better. It just makes it slightly have no opportunity cost beyond the potential of having to choose between two Trinkets to eat because of charge limitations.
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I fucking hate accidentally unlocking "locked boxes" by brushing against them.
Should only be unlocked if you run into it head on. Mods possible to fix?
I can't stand wasting any more fucking keys
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>>167113472
Or you could use the Gulp! pill.
Actually, most of my insane runs have been with that pill in my pill pool.
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>>167113707
>Gulp!
I forgot that does the Smelter effect.
Definitely one of the better design choices. Shame there's too fucking many Pills.
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>>167099154
Besides him getting his statement reversed, no, it's a good point.
Not only is it fucking important to be able to dodge things, it's also useful to be able to outrun chaser enemies (especially if you don't have high damage yet and/or piercing tears).

Speed can be dangerous when too high, but it is pretty important to some level.

>>167098783
If I'm allowed to, I'd agree but say tears = damage.
If not then damage > tears.
Refer to Soy Milk.
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>EASTER

What is this?
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>>167114482
Easter egg seeds, like BASE MENT or whatever.
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>>167113803
Gulp! does Smelter effect? That's neat.
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It feels so good to finally get this after being robbed earlier by Delirium Mom's Foot.
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>>167116398
It would help if I posted the image.
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>>167081242
Grabbing the charm and picking something up from the Blood Shop are always on my Zone 1 to-do list.

Is there a way to grab the Lucky Charm as Monk without dying? I think you could bomb the leprechaun but I've never cared about Monk enough to try it out.
>>
I always chuckle when I come across the hearts that run away from you when you try to pick them up, there's just something funny about them
>>
Do familiars and orbitals do a fixed damage or does it scale?

Nothing on the wiki
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>>167118456
some are fixed, some scale
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>>167118664
Oh ok i found that familiars do fixed
Im assuming that orbitals scale then
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>only need Brimstone Maw for full collection
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>>167039943
>not maining Judas
For what purpose?
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>>167121189
>replying to my post from yesterday

woah

Actually, I think I just like Isaac and Greed Mode because it means I can manage my resources and make decisions.
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>>167121298
I dislike Greed mode desu
it gets too repetitive
>>
>Have a fucking perfect Azreal run going
>Crystal Ball, Rubber Cement, Brimstone, 11dmg, Ludenstone Device
>Grab a ? item
>Its Soy Milk
>Run Ruined
>Try again
>Get Mega Tears+Strong Short range tears
>Doing 60dmg a hit
>Never find many hearts
>Choke in Womb 2

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>167121659
The thing I dislike is Ultra Greed being too repetitive.
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>>167121748
I agree. Also Ultra Greedier is easier than Ultra Greed which is stupid.
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>>167121846
Once you get the pattern, yes. In the beginning I thought the fucking thing was impossible to beat. Same with Sister Vis and Delirium, although those have been fixed already. Fuck Big Horn forever, though.
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>>167121936
Yeah when I first played I thought all his explosive attacks were complete bullshit. Then I learned to just rotate around the room and he became a joke. Twisted Sister still gives me trouble because I rarely encounter them for some reason. Wish there was a seed for a first boss encounter so I can practice.
Big Horn is retarded tho. Has way too much health, which you'd think they wouldn't repeat the same mistake as they did with Rag Man.
Speaking of Rag Man, his "new" version (can't find the name, even checked the wiki but I can't find the Husk+Rag Man hybrid) is pretty annoying since most of the time he can stay guarded/invincible and just drags the fight on.

Boss balance mod when
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>>167122648
I thought big horn has damage scaling, not tons of health. That'd be the real issue.
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>>167122648
At least Rag Mega (Ragman + Duke of Flies not Hush) has way lower hp.
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>>167123065
You're right. He has damage resistance + something like 450hp which is still too much.

>>167123759
>Rag Mega
That's what it was. I also forgot those orbs are invincible which can get annoying if there's other shit in the room.
>Hush
I said Husk which is close enough to Duke of Flies
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Got Delirious and am ready for some testing.

The spawned dips are friendly. No bugs here. Apart from the bug that makes my game tiny when played in windowed mode.
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>>167124347
See if it gets a full charge from one battery
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>>167124347
Oh, hey, they even stay with me! So cute!

>>167124485
Will see when a battery drops. But I think a battery does a full charge.
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>>167124559
Yep, this is definitely a friendly spider I got here.

Can not confirm the steak posted here: >>167107906
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>>167124980
Guess it was fixed.
>Sister Vis
Guess you're gonna get fixed too.
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>>167125126
Nah, they were fixed as well and I fixed them good without getting hit.
Also, the spider spawning thingies were friendly as well. Didn't check if the spiders they would've spawned were friendly as well. Maybe next time.
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Alright, battery works.
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Letting Delirium spawn friendly enemies might even be a valid strategy since they don't despawn when you leave the room.
Item confirmed for not being a simple room clearer.
>>
>Watch NL play AB+
>maybe like, 3 items that are new a run
>barely any new enemies
>1 new floor as far as I can tell and its just stitched together old floors

why did this take so long again?
>>
Transformation Ideas?

Robot transformation with tech items and robo babies
Obvious bomb one
Super sack with sack items


Anything I'm missing
>>
Does antibirth disable steam achieves?

Not that it really matters anymore since I can't 100% it without AB+ and really don't feel like paying the $10
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This guy probably has my favorite attack animations of any Isaac boss, god damn
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>>167127432
Surprisingly, no.
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>>167127432
No. Mods only disable progress in AB+, Anti is a mod for Rebirth (base game).
And even then, you can bypass the progress lock for AB+.
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>>167127231
Adding more trinkets and Greedier, giving Ultra Greed a second form.
>>
Guys I have Antibirth and I fucked up the knife piece puzzle in the Mausoleum. I need to crash my game so the floor will reset. What do?
>>
I also can confirm K0X7 RPTN is not a seed with Brimstone Grimace.
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>>167128193
Alt+F4
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>>167127231
Mod support took most of the time.

t. Steak
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>>167128356
Are there even any new mods that would make AB+ worth it?
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>>167128504
Depends on your tastes, but there are no new mods that couldn't have been more easily made with tools we already had.
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>>167128504
Of course not.
>>
Holy shit how did the Antibirth guys get the narrator from Stanley Parable? I can't believe this shit is free
>>
>>167128884
Now if only the mod was balanced and the bugs were fixed.
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>>167035926
seconding
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>>167035926
https://mega.nz/#!LdExERLB!C13KFpDaKLmPA2bZfcJS5be0ny3Zs3QIY-GgPgFAKEk
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On my post-it for Azazel I have Heart, Sheol and Cathedral done. Just killed Isaac and it gave me the achievement, just checked achievements and I already have the Nail for boss rush. Why?
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guys. this game is cool.
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>>167131442
Does it have a name?
>>167131409
Achievements have been a buggy mess for a long time.
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>>167127615
He has my favorite attacks as well, they're all pretty simple but effective.
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>>167131737
its starward rogue
>>
>Bought Binding of Isaac for Xmas sale
>Have 55 hrs in already

Jesus fucking christ this game
>Easy to pick up and dick around for an hour or two
>Ooops accidently spent 4 hours on it
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>mfw purity and cancer together
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>>167128989
I haven't played it long but the balance doesn't seem any worse than vanilla afterbirth
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>>167132708
>2
it can get even lower!
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holy shit
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>>167134234
lrn2crop faggot
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>>167134381
fine
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>>167134649
Post a screenshot of your stuffs folder.
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>>167135217
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Do I go for them?
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>>167135905
Do it, unless you're a little b with a low t-count & no balls.
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>>167135905
>0% Angel
>Plenty of HP
>+
Yes. 1 HP, then 2.
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>>167135905
always idiot
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>>167135905
of course, 1 and then 2
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>>167136207
>>167136103
>>167136034
>>167135969
razor blade, lord of the pit

definitely okay with some flying
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>>167136403
Swap back to Shoop and party on.
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>>167135546
Quite whelming 2bh pham.
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>>167131442
another cool game. blacksea odysseus
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>>167136696
>The great sucking tide
>But in space
Neat.
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>>167136464
Easy Hush, easy Lamb.

Haven't actually done Lamb since AB+, so this is my first victory lap. holy shit this is silly being so strong on basement 1
>>
>>167138089
>first victory lap
I'm sorry in advance.
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>>167138089
>this is silly being so strong on basement 1

only thing that makes basement bearable

im gonna make a mod that gives you 4 random items and starts you in caves and call it the waste less time doing boring shit mod
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>>167012415
The Hush. Love me some bullethell
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>>167012415
Duke of Flies :^)
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>>167139124
>Love me some bullethell

Heh... clearly not if you consider hush bullet hell... turn back child, you do not know what you speak of.
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>>167131442
what is this tohou shit? I need it.
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>>167012415

Less of a boss, more of a prophet. he's so fucking cool.
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>>167139171
>>167139296
What do you consider bullet hell then
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>>167127615
I WANT TO CUM INSIDE RAINMAKER
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>>167124980
They patched it, then, because they definitely didn't used to be charmed.

t. man who made the video
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>>167140268

>literal "bullet" hell
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>>167140268
Actual shmups like DoDonPachi
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>>167140268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbHxVh6g09s
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>>167140013
Starward Rogue
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>>167141206
>>167141261
Oh shit gotta check that shit out, looks fun
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more than 5 enbiggening pills LOL
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Anyone use controller for Gungeon?
Do you put max settings for auto aim?
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>>167146073
>Gungeon
>controller
Why would you this to yourself ?
>>
>>167146282
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>>167146392
Then switch to keyboard and mouse
The only game that is acceptable to play with Controller is Isaac
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>>167117409
I'm pretty sure the leprechaun just doesn't drop gold when you're playing monk
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Why on earth does Big Born have damage resistances?
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>>167146392

Agree with this anon >>167146703

I started on controller and played with it for a while, switched to keyboard + mouse later and it took a bit to adjust, but it's overall so much better. If you do stick with controller though, I would recommend maxing out Aimbot :^)
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>>167148195

because you're supposed to shove bombs into his mouth and it gets rid of it. I still think it's stupid though.
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Oh, fuck me.
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>>167148470
Seriously? Does it work if you place one right on top of where he's going to spawn?
>>
>>167151380
I'm pretty sure you're supposed to do it after he spits out the homing bullets.
>>
I'm not going to risk my Cracked Crown streak for this, so does anyone know what directed tears does to Azazel?
I'm to go out on a limb and guess it does fucking nothing like most of the other steaks do to brimstone.
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>>167028140
>in florida enjoying a nice vaction, and ignoring everyone untill it reaches the boiling point.
>tell everyone it will be ready "soon"
>released in 5 months
>fans rage
>tyrone grows ever stronger
>>
>>167152254
Ludo is amazing on Azazel. You better have taken it.
>>
>>167152789
Not Ludo, Marked.
If it was Ludo I'd have finished the run and just posted 'tee hee I got Cracked Crown', I've paused it because I'm wondering what Marked/Brimstone does.
>>
>>167152903
Take it or ingen baller.
>>
>>167152903
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Marked
>Interactions
>Brimstone - Overrides Marked. Increases rate of fire.
>>
So how do you push score in necrodancer? I figure you wanna get the crown of greed as quickly as possible, which means you lose all shops on lower levels, and then you have to balance between speed and clearing.
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>>167080719
Yes
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>tfw you start unkillable and beat mega stan in 20 minutes without even going to the first floor boss
Delirium is next.
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>>167088026
If i ever finish a run on monk im never playing him again
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>>167088749
Not him but what are considered the big 3?
>>
>>167158381
Rogue, Nethack, and that one mod for Dwarf Fort.
>>
Starting a new file for Antibirth, is Lost unlocked with the normal Rebirth way?
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>>167157707
It took a while.
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>>167157707
>>167159313
Jesus fuck.
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>>167157707
Why unkillable? Serious question here.
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>>167161160
Maggie's Bow doubles the amount of healing for each heart pickup and I assume it adds two hearts to the jar as well, so he can just spam the jar and get infinite amounts of hearts out of it.
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>>167141824
You are going for the hardest start, however others like Touhou or Ikaruga are for the new people who wants an easy start.
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>>167162090
>2hu
>easy
kill yourself
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>>167162402
It's not our problem you're shit at games.
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>>167162627
>abloo bloo bloo
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>>167162707
>unironically defending babby games
>>
what happened to the ab+ update that was supposed to come out like a few days ago?
>>
>>167162090
>>167162627
>>167162825
cave games really aren't harder than touhou. they're faster, but your hitbox is also way smaller.
>>
>>167162402
Not him but 6-10 aren't that hard, especially when many people start at 6, however with 11 it starts the actual difficult.
>>
>>167163312
>didn't mention cave, just said 2hu is easy
>butthurt /jp/ poster instantly starts defending against cave
Pottery.
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>>167163496
see
>>167141206
>>167141261
kys
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QUICK!

Favorite single roguelite items, from any game
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>>167163561
>all anons are the same person
>>
>>167163604
Isaac?
Active: D6/Blank Card/Crystal Ball
Passive:Polyphemus/Jacob's Ladder/Mom's Knife
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>>167163682
the discussion was in reference to cave games, and touhou was brought up as being easier than cave games

kys
>>
>>167163604
Number 2
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>>167140268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwa6N7jnm2c
>>
>check base rebirth donation machine after playing antibirth
>it remembers the number

oh wow so stuff I unlock in anti will carry over to the base?
>>
>>167163604
Blue Candle, who doesn't kill everything with that?
And Stopwatch
Honorable mentions to Remote Tears + 9 Volt + Cancer (trinket)
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>>167165563
>blue candle
>not red
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>>167163604
Mega Blast, feels like I'm using a red Kamehameha or Master Spark.
>>
>lose a really fucking easy Azazel daily because the boss rush kept spawning dark champion bosses that can be barely seen against the dark ground
Why is this allowed
>>
>>167167787
just eat some carrots my dude
>>
>like 12 hours in crypt of the necrodancer
>haven't even gotten to the final boss
>rare finish zone 2

why am i so shit
>>
>>167168839
Because 12 hours is too low for roguelites
>>
>>167168839
Try unlocking the NPC in 2-3. It helps a LOT.
>>
>buy amplified after getting pretty far into necrodancer
>watch the intro cutscene
>automatic tweening
>the protagonist is super cringey
oh boy, i'm in for something aren't i
>>
>>167170308
You're in for a unique and interesting, albeit easy as hell, character who has an interesting negative effect.
>>
>>167163604
Ring of courage in necrodancer
>>167168839
Necrodancer is tough it takes everyone a long time to finish all zones cadience for the first time
>>
>>167170548
okay, it's really good
i was expecting the worst from the intro, but it's really fun, especially the items (although some of them are dumb, like the dove familiar and the wall spell).
>>
>>167006247
Lost would die by just touching him
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>>167174395
Black Flies and Charmed Enemies don't hurt the Lost.
>>
>>167173639
The wall spell is dope tho
>>
>>167174574
Black flies don't hurt anyone else either.
>>
I beat mega-satan as Apollyon. Im not sure what I did or unlocked. I just spammed the sacrifice room since I had alot of full health items, killed 2 angels that spawned and got 2 halves of a key, spammed the sacrifice room some more and got teleported a new map and, killed the lamb and got a victory lap, got dad's key, spammed another sacrifice room, got teleported to the same map but with a big gold door and killed mega-satan. Im very confused to what I just did.
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>>167174898
Sacrifice Rooms will spawn both Angels (who will drop their Key Parts unless you have previously seen them and killed them, but skipped the Key Parts) then Teleport you to Dark Room, it will automatically use the Key you make to open the Mega Satan door.
You also won't unlock anything unless you exit game and start a run back up after victory lapping.
>>
>>167163604
That teleport doll thing from Antibirth, think it was called Stitches?
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>>167175035
>You also won't unlock anything unless you exit game and start a run back up after victory lapping
is this a bug? What am I supposed to unlock if i kill mega-satan?
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>>167175346
Co-op Baby or Mega Blast (that one is when you kill Mega Satan with everyone)
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>>167175346
>is this a bug?
Nope. Victory Laps aren't supposed to award progress, in Edmund's eyes, and Nicalis' code is so shit that they can't fix simple shit like this.
>>
>find angel room with two angel statues
>bomb both at once
>both angels spawn
>only get one key piece
>later, get another angel room
>bomb it, fight angel
>no key piece spawns because I've already beaten both angels
Nice
nice
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>>167176116
Step 1: Bomb both Statues, grab Key Piece before killing 2nd Angel to get both
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>>167176116
If that happen, then try bring Dad's Key
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>>167163604
RoR counts right?
>>
If anyone wants to play a bomb-ass run where you fire cruise missiles instead of tears, try LNOZ G3K2 in Antibirth.
>>
>>167179948
you do like 0 damage though
>>
>>167181317
Monstro II and Gish are pretty tanky.
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Doing an All Zones Monk run, is there any fucking way to get past this?
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>As for Afterbirth+ support, we have a few ideas in mind, but again, nothing is set in stone yet so I can’t give you any details on that at the moment. One thing’s for sure, I definitely want to make it a reality and it will happen one way or another!

>it will happen one way or another!
>it will happen one way or another!
>it will happen one way or another!
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>>167182923
Not without bombs no.

RIP.
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He is stuck
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>>167182923
can you wait out the music?
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>>167183590
Music doesn't end on boss fights.
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>>167183590
No, all bosses have looping tracks. Except for Necrodancer 2
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>>167168839
play individual zones until you Get Good
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>>167182923
f
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>>167183015
More nerfs and rehashed items/enemies incoming
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>can't get blast helm as eli
why do the devs hate fun
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>>167185407
it's for the same reason you can't get ring of phasing as dove
it would be too OP
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Holy FUCK, I just found out Rocket in a Jar + Bobby-bomb gives you homing missiles. What a fun synergy. I wonder if it works with Dr. Fetus.

Also, Bird's Eye + Abaddon + Perfection turns your tears into a massive flamethrower, which is cool and all, but the fire is pretty obscuring of heart beggars, which can be a problem when your playing as the Lost, apparently.
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>>167186425
They do, Antibirth also has its own wiki like WotL and Rebirth/AB/+.
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>>167164415
Antibirth uses your Rebirth files as a base.
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>>167188109
Now I just need the planets to align and get all three in one run. I knew about the wiki, I just didn't think to check there first 'cause I'm dumb.
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>Working on Azreal becuase I still need achievements for him
>Get Monstro's Lung on Basement 1
>Decide to try to see see what awful charge time it gives
>No effect on charge
>One beam always goes straight
Im ok with this
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>Using Oculus Rift on Chub when he does his charge attack makes it look like he's screaming in panic as he's sucked into the void

It's the little things.
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Post your strongest guppers.
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>>167195118
Guppy makes me Happy
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Siren is a pretty fun mod character, you guys should try it out. Her active item is pretty bonkers to play around with.
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>>167196916
There have been a fucking TON of good Mods thus far added to the Workshop.
Everything from basic Skin swaps, like the Honk Brothers >>167051659
to dozens of new and actually fun challenges, or ones that hinge on mechanical skill instead of random chance
to a fucking ton of new items that are either enjoyable, unique, or powerful without being obscenely so given their rarity and pool
to a bunch of characters that have such interesting effects, two notable ones being Mei and Melis.
The Charred is also a fun take on "Keeper, but Bombs and not shit."
Haven't looked into new Bosses, rooms, and floors and the like.
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>>167197339
The Charred was second next on my list, after Rainmaker. Haven't got to try out other mods yet, but I definitely will, soon. Do you have any good recommendations for me?
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>>167197771
Just tick the "Player Characters" box on the Workshop, then sort by Most Popular (Six Months) or (One Year). Most of those are P. Good. Silas is fun.
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>>167185613
>no ballet shoes or charm of risk as Aria

She could've been The Lost of this game.
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Uh, guys...?
Is this supposed to happen?
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>>167198835
That's Witness as Eden right?
If so, then yes. You unlocked 'M.
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>>167198987
Oh, okay.

I had to leave and reload because Witness' dead body blocked the chest. thought I glitched the game or something.
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>>167200117
Nope. That's an uncommon glitch that happens when Visage dies in the room's exact center.
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>>167200281
>Visage
Witness*
Sorry, got thrown off by your Webm.
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>>167200281
Yeah, I've seen it happen to others. I just got a bit worried since the unlock popped up at a weird time, and I've never seen the glitch happen myself.

Also, this happened on an earlier run. Antibirth is leagues beyond The Steak in terms of quality of content, but it really could use some fixes.
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>>167200567
Those "fixes" it has relating to unusable doors is predominantly because they mis-coded where some doors spawn on Boss Rooms with impassable objects when there is >1.
There's one bug on the Mines 2 with one of the Great Gideon Layouts where after exiting the Devil/Angel room, it'll plant itself on top of the door back out to the rest of the floor, trapping you in the Boss Room with no choice but to go down to Mausoleum or Depths/Necropolis.
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>>167200976
Huh. that sounds pretty shitty.
Do we have any information on future patches/updates on Antibirth, or are they too busy trying to reach through to Tyrone?
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>>167201174
Nope. They've been pretty quiet, just commenting on how they can't reach Tyrone and that they're working on finishing the planned updates for Rebirth Antibirth and will fully consider + Antibirth after Tyrone actually talks to them.
>That room
Curse of the Giant is one of the most fucking annoying Curses without being a piece of retarded bullshit and I love it.
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i want to die
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>>167201409

I just love how many crazy insane room layouts they've come up with to compliment curse of the Giant.

Also, I get the feeling that sometimes they just squish four regular rooms together, leading to some pretty horrifying combinations. I think I remember seeing NL run into a big room in Downpour that had like thirty yellow orbiting flies.
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>>167201409
>Curse of the Giant on Dark Room
>Shitty dps regular tears
>Average speed

Boy was it a painful day.
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>Dr. Fetus + Monstro's Lung + Telepathy
>1 shot every boss except It Lives (3 hits) and Hush

My fucking sides
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>>167201749
>squish four regular rooms together
That's all the Curse of the Giant does. Any rooms that are of a singular size and can be suitably stitched together into a Long room or a 2X2 will be. Some rooms will be normal 2X2, but those spawned naturally.
Not all rooms will be fuckhueg, but any it can will be, prioritizing 2X2 over 2X1 over 1X2.
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>Mfw getting Casey for the first time.

Nearly bungled that run entirely and lost to the Dragun from all the fucking around I did, but holy fuck is that a fun weapon.
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>>167201608
>???
I wouldn't say git gut, but at least you weren't with Lost or Keeper.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU
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>>167202250
Casey is basically the "EZ mode" weapon.
The funny part is, it's more fun than like 90% of every weapon in the game despite also trivializing most content. And the +2 Curse is utterly negligible for how good it is.
Shame its unlock is pure fucking chance.
>Have done 1-2 runs a day trying to find that new NPC
>Found him once in Mines, key was on Boss
>Died to Mineflayer
>That was like 3 days ago
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>>167202392
nah i'm just salty that i killed him and didn't get the kill credit because i died at the same time
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Which do you recommend playing first:

>Binding of Isaac
>Nuclear Throne
>Enter the Gungeon

Nuclear Throne looks most interesting to me aesthetically. Any reason I shouldn't start there?
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>>167183490
Too many people were trying to put sauce on their raw steak with statue form, so the hush was changed so you have to kill those blue nubs or it will never go up.
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>>167204513

>Any reason I shouldn't start there?

Something something, abandoned game, something something RNG bullshit.

I say start with EtG, but I'm sure somebody will disagree with me. EtG is what got me into this genre, I played Isaac after that and started with Afterbirth

If NT looks the most interesting to you though, you should try it first.
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>>167204513
Start with what you like to be honest.
>>167204981
Gungeon is also a good suggestion, being the slowest of the three, it's easier to get used to NT and Isaac because speeding up is easier. Slowing down is harder.
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>Tried Greed Mode for the first time
>Lol this is easy
>Keep accidently stopping the timer and taking damage but whatever
>Get to Ultra-Greed
>Have the knife so I need to be close
>Get raped

Wew
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>>167204513
Do whatever you want I guess. I started with Isaac, then played Gungeon, then NT. Isaac is the easiest, Gungeon was hard, and NT I didn't like at all. People seem to have fun with it though and a lot of people in this general are from the long dead /ntg/ so they will tell you NT. All three of the games are different from eachother. Other than me not liking the game, the objective reasons why you wouldn't start there are that the devs abandoned the game a long time ago, they refuse to ever put it on sale, and that it is locked at 30 fps.
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I DIED IN DRAGUN AND I FUCKING SUCK. HE FUCKING JUMPED IN FRONT OF THE GUN LIKE THE HERO PIG. SER JUNKAN DIED FOR MY WIN. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

never have I had a more empty win. ;~; GIVE ME BACK MY JUNK BUDDY.
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>>167208209
ser junkan does this? for real?
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>>167208725

Yes, I don't know what stage specifically triggers that effect, but he had his white armor on and was also teleporting in front of me and mini-blanking.
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>>167208725
>>167209302
I can comfirm that Ser Junkan will take the shot for you at a certain level. 6 Junk according to the wiki.
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>>167209302
>teleporting in front of me

>teleports behind enemy bullet
>nothing personnel
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>>167204513
Isaac obviously
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>Doing runs on Eden, only Hush and Lamb are left
>Shit items on 3 consecutive runs that i lost at either Hush or Womb
>4th Run get Lost contact for Shield tears and Book of Sin
>1st boss gives me Big Mushroom, might as well try deal with the devil in next floor
>Penetrative Death's tears in devil deal
>Oh well this might be good
>Notice im not getting hit at all and im full on soul/black hearts
>Realize what's happening
>A single tear penetrates through ALL the enemy tears
>Have the easiest time ever against Hush, didn't even touch me

I finished lamb, did victory laps and unlocked both the pill effect and the Rerun, holy shit that was so fun.
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...So how does the Menorah work with Brimstone (or at leas Azazel's mini-Brim)?
Does it even work at all?
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>>167216584
Not sure. Never gotten Menorah and Azazel or Menorah and Brimstone.
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>>167216584
It doesnt work with fetus as far i know.
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>>167216584
Ah, nevermind. Doesn't seem to work, at least not with Azzy's mini-Brim.
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I don't want to jinx it but... How could I lose?
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>Judas run
>The Mark in Curse Room
>Small Rock immediately
>Treasure Room is dumpster
>Downpour 1 Tiny Planet
>Just fucking roll with it
>Going into mines with 2 Guppy parts, 12 Damage, Gup's Head, and a pile of HP
Well then.
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>its much more effective to shoot the wall than aim at enemies
jesus christ
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>>167217293
>Doc Fetus+poop bombs+skullhat
Then I got BFFs, Split Shot, Car Battery and Shield. So I just sat in the corner behind my shield shitting out shitbombs. Got my first Ultra Greed completion, now to try it on a non-meme character
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>Antibirth
>Died when I really shouldn't have
Can you see the problem here?
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>>167219182
The White Heart not being removed? Because the death screen don't let me see the enemies.
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>>167219293
That's precisely correct.
>Eternal Heart is supposed to take the hit before your last Heart if you have no Reds
>Doesn't
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>>167219815
Ever pick up any rotten hearts?
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>>167219895
Nope. I've had nothing but Blues and Blacks since Mines 1.
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>Bird's Eye
>Monstro's Lung
>Perfection
>mfw
EVERYTHING LITERALLY MELTS
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>play the original isaac for the first time in 4 years because original games have a charm to them
>first curse room has telepills
>come here

oh boy
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>>167225141
I kind of miss the Arrows part of the GUI
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>>167225694
there's a lot to miss about old Isaac. Nicalis had nothing to do with it and champion enemies here are no fucking joke
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>Helix Bullets
>Fat Bullets
>I have a full ammo yari launcher ready for the boss
>Yari launcher ignores the boss damage cap

you bout to get fucked, old king.
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>first official mod pack ain't til end of march
Never fails to disappoint.
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>>167225978
>old champion fallen shot a constant spread barrage of 3-4 tears alternating and then split into three smaller versions that could do the same thing plus brimstone
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>>167226096

Man, that run ended up being insane and loads of fun.
>mfw robot's alt costume
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>>167228291
Now do challenge mode
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>>167229403

I messed around with challenge mode, and it's not really my thing, I prefer Praying to the statue at the start of the run for 10 curse instantly
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>fuck yeah Chaos Card
>card flies in the opposite direction

You throw that thing with the directional arrows instead of the shooting arrows, don't you.

I still won the run but I'm still salty.
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Quick, /isaac/, does Dad's Key open the door that leads out of the Mom fight?
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does taking out items off the pool in necrodancer remove them from all zones pool too?if so what should i remove for playing aria?
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>>167237139
No, but All Zones removes all of the useless armor and other weapons for you, so Black Chests will almost always have either the Karate Gi or Glass Armor. I suggest going for those first when you beat a boss.
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>>167236701
I'm not sure but I wouldn't bet anything important on it.
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isaac!
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>>167227032
>champion
That's an eternal enemy you dipshit
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I like my pokemans
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is there supposed to be a puzzle in this room?how are you supposed to reach the items?
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>>167236637
You have to move in the direction to fire it. Like W+Q to fire it upward.
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>>167241663
Teleporter somewhere. I remember someone else asking that question.
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>Unlock Keeper after breaking several runs with Glowing Hourglass
>Checking old characters for completion marks
>Eve needs to beat Dark Room and Mega Satan
>Start run, get item on treasure room
>I'll go whore of babylon to get more damage
>Razor Blade is gone

Are YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
DID BLOWING THE MACHINE IN GREED MODE LOCK IT?

Lost still has his Holy Mantle so i dont know what the fuck is going on.
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>>167242485
It's not like she isn't a top-tier a character without it, just go to a curse room and you'll get the whore + whatever was in there.
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>>167242485
>>167242656
I said fuck it and went without it, got a GREAT run starting with Mom's Knife and Gnawed Leaf in about 3 treasure rooms, kept going and got 9 lives and some other orbitals. Did Boss Rush, Chaos'd Hush and finished Dark Room and Mega Satan, got to the Void, got the missing poster, though i should revive as Lost and try finishing it but since i got such a great run she deserves to get the win.

Got into the boss room, gnaw'd leaf myself in the middle of the room and went to the bathroom, when i got back i already killed it. But nothing unlocked.

I somehow did Delirium before as Eve and i don't recall when i did that shit, fuck.
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>>167241085
>>
was today's isaac daily literally the exact same as yesterdays?
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>be monk
>walk into gold
>YOU DIED! PRESS R TO CONTINUE
how does this guy even function outside of the dungeon anyway
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>>167245903
Ground hogs day
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>>167246064
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>>167245925
Outside the Dungeon, the rules are different.
You are not bound to a Cartesian Plane for one big one.
Monsters and people don't drop gold on death and if they do, it's usually in sacks that would be safe to walk upon.
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>>167226835
>They also edited Edmund's post slightly from + launch so it doesn't mention first Booster would be in February
Admittedly, it makes sense, but that means it's gonna take even-fucking-longer to get the game to "We're finally fucking done, go nuts."
>January's Mods will be compiled and sorted to mid-February or so starting from Feb. 1st
>They're then gonna implement them into their test build, work out all the bugs, turn all the items into Breakfast so we never see it again, then after extensive Testing, release it at the end of the following month
>We will see monthly Boosters, but only at end of March onwards and they'll probably find some excuse to delay it more as time goes by
>The final Booster (If they don't decide October's set at the end of December will be the last one) will be end of February of NEXT year at the earliest
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>Legend of Bumbo has its own Blog now
>After 3 weeks, it's still a blank Tumblr page with 0 formatting, no profile image, and no content, not even a single post
Jesus.
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>>167248074
>legend of bumbo
are they legit making this game just cause of a youtuber
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>>167248138
I don't rightfully know. I would assume no.
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>>167245903
Oh, so I literally have no reason to play it today then since I got Cracked Crown yesterday, which overall is a lot easier to get than people make out
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>>167248772
No one thinks it 's hard, it's just that people don't like it because it's boring. Waiting until the next daily 4 times is not fun, especially since fucking up (or the daily being bullshit) makes you go all the way to the beggining.
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>>167248772
They're awful players that can't win runs without holding R to save their lives. The kind that will make up any excuse to avoid admitting they're shit. Use of "Too boring" "Too slow" "Damage sponge" and "Artificial difficulty" is the easy way to identify the typical neo /v/ casuals. You may as well play anyway if you want to get the Dedication achievement.
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>>167249524
Plus its dedication that most people are unhappy with. 31 days in a row is bullshit even though you don't have to complete the daily.
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>>167242485
DID BLOWING THE MACHINE IN GREED MODE LOCK IT?

no something else must have happened because I blew up my greed machine ages ago and still have all the unlocks.
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>>167250412
too slow is a perfectly valid complaint and only contrarian hipsters think otherwise. If I wanted slow, I'd play PCB or EtG, not Isaac. Now's the part where you aggressively tip your fedora at me.
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>>167250412
>2 steaks have been added to your account, thank you for correcting the record
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>>167204513
Depends on what kind of games you're into. I personally prefer isaac over the 3. Gungeon is really difficult for me because i'm shit at bullet hells, plus the runs are a lot longer averaging over an hour. Isaac got me into the genre and continues to be my favorite.
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Anyone know if you can fill out the item list during daily runs? Or does it block everything like challenges do.
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>>167251640
They block everything. Also they have everything already unlocked.
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How do I git gud at necrodancer?
I've gotten to dead ringer dozens of times, but only beaten him once. Choked super hard on the necrodancer fight because I didn't realize how the lute worked.
I just wish level 4 wasn't such a bag of dicks that I could get to dead ringer consistently
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>>167252226
You know you can practice bosses? It's in the room to the right
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>>167252343
I can do the fight in practice without taking damage. I don't know whats wrong with me
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>>167251942
That's what I figured. I was hoping I could run dailies to get both the remaining items I need for the stats page as well as the dedication achievement but it looks like I'll just start a daily and kill myself and do a regular run instead.
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>>167250412
>>167250745
>>167250809
neo /v/s btfo'd the fuck out
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>>167254312
you quoted the wrong post, >>167250412 got BTFO.
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>>167254431
not an argument, neo /v/ scum
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>>167254532
>got BTFO by the inb4
>inafters anyways
lmao, cry harder steakmund
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>>167254743
>m-muh steak maymays
neo /v/ detected
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>>167254786
stay mad.
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>>167254786
ed did you forget to take your meds again
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>>167254878
>>167254869
stay shit :^)
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>>167225141
I liked the Errors rooms the most there,since some of them were selling random items like Black Market did in Rebirth.
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>>167254743
>>167254878
>blames edmund for everything because they don't know better
typical of neo /v/, keep worshiping nicalis and tyrone
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>>167256785
Speaking of, is the Black Market even in the game? I haven't seen it in AB+.
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>monk needs 2 bombs to open secret shop
FUCK
OFF
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Does using the sacrifice room reduce my chance to get a devil room if I take red heart damage?
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>>167259583
yes
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>>167259583
The only source of Red Heart Damage that does not impact Deals is Blood Banks.
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>rng grinding: the achievement
literally why
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>>167261591
>Frifle
There's only 2 that overly rely on RNG.
You can Shortcut most of them excluding Shroomies.
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>>167262214
Yeah alright, but it's just so tedious when you have completed everything else already.
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>>167260759
I thought demon beggars didn't either
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>>167262516
Fair enough, I suppose. But if you know where to go, it won't take too long.
The longest is definitely Shelleton cause those fuckers do not spawn that often, getting 3 on a single floor is fucking rare.
Where you at anyway in that lineup.
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>>167262214
I feel like half of those are useless and the other half is amazing.
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>>167262702
I'm currently at bullet sharks, but probably going to take a break for a while before going back to the grind.

Also got any tips for Challenge mode? I got to high dragun once with an amazing run but died due to high stress and not knowing his modified attacks.
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>>167263067
>Also got any tips for Challenge mode?
I only got one, wait until they balance it.
They said that they're gonna add positive effects too.
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Apparently, the Blood Shovel + Miner Hat kills you when entering shops because you walked near walls.
Does anyone have any tips for monk all zones?
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>at the end of the run on antibirth
>"oh cool, new item
>almond milk
>literally takes away like 16 points of damage

I'm so mad what the fuck, there goes fighting mega satan
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>>167264496
It's soy milk but with wacky effets
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>>167264496
>Reduces Tear Delay to precisely 2 (Soy to 1)
>Reduces Damage by 80% (Soy 90%)
>In addition, your Tears will occasionally fly off in random directions cause you're nutty

Rock Bottom is your friend.
>>
How do you get to the alternate floors on antibirth? I saw it say the path was unlocked but I've never seen the door appear, do you have to beat cellar 2 in a certain amount of time or never get hit or what?
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>>167265854
You need to beat all the new antibirth bosses in default floors.
Then, on basement 1-2 a door will spawn, you'll need 1 key to open it.
The next door takes 2 bombs and the last door takes 2 soul hearts.
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>>167266014
Do you need to beat them all in the same run? I know I've beaten baby plum, reap creep, and the pile but never all on the same run
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>>167265854
>Beat Baby Plum, Reap Creep, and Pile
>Now, each normal floor will have a post-boss door to the alt floor
>>167266167
You can't beat all 3 on the same run because Reap and Pile both share the Depths/Necropolis slot.
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>>167262214
IIRC for kill pillars and dragun you can use boss rush which makes it really easy if you don't want to play normally and prefer to grind.
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>>167266246
Isn't Reap on the caves? I know you fight him in the mines.
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>>167266351
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>>167266321
With dragun it's probably easier to just use the shortcut to the forge instead of having to go through the entire boss rush every time.
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Is today's Daily the same as yesterdays?
I completed the Eve one yesterday sometime around 10:00pm. I get back from work expecting today's to be different but it's the same one.

I already starting playing the Eve daily because I thought it was different. Do I have to complete it now? If I quit will that fuck up my daily streak, even though I beat the run yesterday?
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>>167266809
Yes, because it's groundhog day
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>>167266809
It's the same Daily, but it's on a different day, so you still gotta do it for Dedication.
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>>167266908
>>167266918
>groundhog day
wow that actually makes total sense. I completely forgot it was groundhog day today. thanks
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great game
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>>167267496
You know that's supposed to happen right
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>>167267496
It's a feature(tm)
no, it really is
that's what dataminer does
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>A

what did they mean by this
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>>167267597
>>167267624
i didn't even have dataminer on that run though. was from release day of AB+ i think

also why is Jacob's Ladder the only fun new item
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>>167267767
You probably voided it or something, then. I don't think it's an unlock item.
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>>167267767
You definitely sucked it up with Void
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>>167268176
Mom's Knife? Brimstone?
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>trivialize almost every boss with one item
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>>167268356
Literally perfect
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>>167268356
Don't forget: Need good Luck and Tear Rate or you'll just hurt yourself more.
>In the event you run out of Portals v. someone like Mom's Heart/It Lives, you will unleash a torrent of tears in wild directions in physically undodgeable patterns
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It hurts
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Does an immortal heart allow you to visit curse rooms for free or will it remove your heart when you try and leave
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>>167269761
It only gets refreshed when clearing a room, not entering a new room like holy mantle, so unless you get soul/black hearts or a telepill you'll lose it on the way out.
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>>167269657
could try looking in the bottom most room to see if any fires you can extinguish
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>>167269761
>>167269946
Or TP into a Devil Deal with Krampus.
Or Curse Room starts with Spiders in it.
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Anyone know what the gray icon on the map means?

First time seeing this
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>>167270396
It's just the plus thing on the middle of the room you silly.
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>>167270396
I think it's just that + in the center of the room, it's just weird-looking on the map.
At least, I'd imagine that's what it is.
>>
>>167270550
>>167270560
Nothing happens when I interact or shoot on it, though
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>>167270647
It's literally just a wall.
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>>167270647
That's because it's just a wall, just like every other wall in the game.
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>>167266918
>Eve daily
Something tells me that anon isn't going for dedication.
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>>167270732
>>167270741
Then why have an icon for it if it's useless
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>>167270845
NEVERMIND

I DON'T CARE

MOVING ON
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>>167270845
It's not an icon, you idiot. It's just a wall, but the minimap shows it as a bit deformed because reasons.
Look at the room just above you in that pic, notice how the walls are shown? Same thing.
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>>167270845
It's not an icon, dingdong. It's literally a map boundary.
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>>167270982
>>167270986
o-oh
>>
how the fuck do you beat fortissimole 5 with aria?
>>
Does anyone know if I can download save files of the game somewhere? I finished Afterbirth with 100% unlocked and I don't feel like doing it all again to start playing A+ since the game was uninstalled in the meantime.
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>>167271524
You either wait for some kind of Aria buff or boss nerf like a sane person or overdose in your own autism to beat level 5 with her.

Adding the new zone for all the charcaters and for the all-zones was a mistake.
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>>167272293
Don't act dumb, zone 5 is much easier than zone 4.
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>>167272424
Yeah, but it is a new zone to beat when the game is already as hard as it is with her.
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>>167272787
You have a much easier start with her, what more could you ask for?
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>>167272424
you are not just wrong,you are also stupid
>>
>>167273076
>a much easier start with Aria
????
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>>167269996
It also didn't have anything
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>>167273404
I assume you haven't done aria all zones yet.

>>167273509
Zone 4 is harder than Zone 5.
Aria starts in Zone 5 instead of Zone 4, meaning that she has time to get equipped for zone 4.
>>
>Need to beat Mega Santa with The Lost
>His best items are from Devil Deals
>Can't sacrifice room your way to Mega Santa

How the fuck am i supposed to get to him to kill it?
>>
>>167274596
Dad's Key.
>>
>>167274262
That's like saying a shit sandwich meal is now good because it is served with hot liquid shit as and appetizer.
>>
>>167271745
pls respond
>>
>>167274902
It's not like Zone 5 is any hard.
Seems like you need to git gud.
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>>167275040
it makes you fight one more boss at difficulty 5 you stupid cunt
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Gg Ed
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>>167271745
>>167275037
Yes you can. I did exactly that after losing all my Afterbirth Data in lieu of the upcoming AB+.
Then I never bought AB+ cause the price wasn't right.
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>>167005728
post your highest streak
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>>167277385
this was removed weeks ago
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>>167271524
Knock out the health of the back row skeletons so they run to the right. Their bodies will block off one of the spawn points so you'll only have the boss and one mage to deal with.

You could block off both of them if you time it right but I find it faster to just kill the mole than do that.
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>>167277472
fixed that for you
>>
>>167278762
Pirate detected
>>
>>167280502
>the chink who was providing quick torrents for every update completely forgot about the latest one
RIP
>>
Whats with asian people's fascination with the roguelite genre?
>>
>>167281201
they combine the twitchiness of gookclick with some of the depth of roguelikes. At least the good ones do.
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>exploring Mausoleum for the first time
>those teleports
>those enemies
>mfw fight siren for the first time while I have Lil Brim and the Scooper

I can't even be mad I died, that was cool as fuck. Seriously I can't believe how much this just blows afterbirth and afterbirth+ out of the water
>>
>>167281928
>Have run so many times through Mausoleum 1
>Have never met Siren once
Annoying, really.
>>
>>167282219
>have 300 hours in rebirth + afterbirth
>have not once seen blastocyst as a boss
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DELETE THIS COMBINATION
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>D6 Isaac run with semi-decent items
>Not too shit
>Not too OP
>Won against Blue Baby with psychic laser tears, Beelzebub transformation and Dry Baby
>At 4.27 damage
It's nice to just do a run between trying to unlock things.
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>>167284346
D E L E T E
>>
>>167285000
I need to do a few of those. I'm in Keeper alt path/Lost Greedier hell.
>>
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Post Isaacs of unusual quality.
>>
>>167285364
Sisters Vi are the shittiest part of afterthought+ they're incredibly tanky for no reason at all.
>>
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>need 4 more wins for 5 Nights at Mom's
>go Judas Hard because need Delirium clear
>use only key on Basement 1 on gold chest
>Cricket's Head
>treasure room has Infestation 2
>OH BOY
>get soul heart from a fire, go into curse room
>GUPPY'S COLLAR
>treasure room has Quarter, go into shop, see Night Light
>Sack of Pennies, Black Candle, Compass
>Devil Room Caves 1 has Ceremonial Robes, The Pact, AND Abaddon
>Sinus Infection in Flooded Caves 2
>Curse Room Guppy's Head
>Devil Room has Mom's Knife + Rotten Baby
>find restock machine in treasure room Necropolis 1
>reroll until My Reflection
>Greed drops Steam Sale
>Boss Challenge has Fate
>Shop has Smelter and Mama Mega
>find Super Secret Room, Jeras and Blank Runes
>get tons of Berkano and Dagaz procs, get tons of hearts back after Devil Deals
>carry a Blank Rune and The Sun with me
>Necropolis 2 boss room has Fortune Machine
>beat Mom, get Polaroid, Devil Deal has Satanic Bible and Guppy's Hairball, become Guppy
>Boss Challenge Room has Kidney Stone, use Blank Rune until Perthro into Serpent's Kiss
>Utero 1 Devil Deal has Brimstone
OH BABY
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>tfw Delirium is in the first boss door you go into
>as if the game wants you to just finish the run already
>>
>>167288581
Why are most of the Delirium unlocks total ass, anyways?
>>
>>167289542
CHEW

SLOWLY

this DLC was so fucking lazy
>>
>tfw check Steam Workshop for mods
>go through the list, save the ones I like
>eventually finish downloading, and open the game to see
>78 mods total
Wew lad.
>>
>>167289542
Which aren't?
>>
>>167292493
>Which aren't?
Silver Dollar, Eucharist, Dull Razor, Bloody Crown, Compound Fracture, Eden's Soul, Euthanasia, Crooked Penny, and Void.
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What dis?
>>
>>167293651
That'd be a post-Mom's Heart Angel Room when you have less than 9 or 10 Kills.
>>
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blinding niggas
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>>167294487
I think I will skip it. I would probably die anyways.
>>
>>167295259
It doesn't matter, you get the unlock for Mom's Heart kill either way and get a shot at 1 of the Isaac Kills you'll need anyway.
>>
Oh wow, Ultra Greedier is a lot easier than I expected. I guess that watching all those egg videos at 2x speed made me think he was a lot faster.
>>
>>167293081
>Eucharist
>not total ass
I'll give you that Crooked Penny is good if there's a restock box or with Car Battery.
>>
>>167073280
I love Nuclear Throne, my personal favorite. BOI has way more variety though.
>>
>>167298482
But just think if in that room you find Holy Mantle, Godhead or Sacred Heart. which are the best.
>>
>>167284008
That also happened to me except it was Daddy Long Legs on Womb/Utero
>>
>>167303498
>Because Nicalis can't into good coding, I fought Triachnid as an actual boss before Daddy in Rebirth base
>And then I unlocked Triachnid off Triachnid
>>
>commit to using Smelter
>shit tier trinkets for the rest of the game
1/10 space bar item
>>
>>167300814
The problem is Eucharist isn't in the Treasure Room pool, just the Angel one.
>>
LITTLE HORN CAN KILL THE BLOAT'S EYES. PRAISE IT.
>>
>>167304525
How many otherwise decent, but due to the pool they are in thus making them utter shit items exist in that one pool with no other way to get them in a run?
>>
>beat Greedier with Cain
>have 89 cents and a bunch more on the floor
>donate 4 cents and the greed machine jams on 0%
are you
are you fucking kidding me
>>
>>167305151
Reminder: The only "proper" way to do Greed Mode's Donation Box is with a Dollar and the Box spawned on Basement Greed.
>>
>>167305428
I recently farmed the 1000 coins in greed mode, mostly used Isaac, Greed mode on normal
>Start run, check shop for D20
>Reroll if not
>Repeat until D20 is on sale
>Get D20, next floor check if there's a battery
>Proceed to break the game getting money, 2 of diamonds and Blank card
>Don't take Chaos until you get Glowing Hourglass
>Beat the mode, use Glowing Hourglass 5 times then finish
>Repeat until you get the Keeper
Took me about 4 hours and it was still MORE FUN THAN FUCKING SPEED AND BRAINS IN AB+.

I swear Ultra Hard mode was easier than that bullshit.
>>
Stop that.
>>
Keep going.
>>
is it just me or do the joke guns in enter the gungeon show up WAAAY more than they should? its really frustrating
>>
>>167310206
whole game is a fuckin joke
>>
>>167310206
for a game called enter the GUNgeon there sure are a lot of runs when I barely get ANY FUCKING GUNS
>>
>>167313731
>Game is called enter the gungeon
>Best weapons are melee weapons
>>
>>167294560
What game is that?
>>
new general when?
>>
>>167304717
This thing kills everything besides bosses, even stone fatties and those annoying turrets.
>>
new thead when
>>
>>167258401
There should be bombs on the floor of you need to bomb your way in
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