/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

Manus was a trap

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>muh femboy

>>166948464
gibe gwyndolin boipucci please

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Have you remembered to had in your good boy tongues to Mommy Rosaria today, /dsg/?

>>166948078

I'm a DS3 newfag. What do I need to know about infusing weapons?

I didn't play DS2 for long enough to infuse anything either.

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>>166948675
Yes! Dipped in her favorite semen (mine) for my beloved Goddess!

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>>166948262
Reminder that DS2 literally had a boss that was wojack stuck inside a giant demon pepe who was imprisoned by female priests (feminists) because he ate too many tendies

Reminder that there is literally a boss called the BANEful queen, a woman who went crazy because she wasn't pretty enough and crashed her windmill with no survivors.

People are confused because after you fight her, and take an elevator further up her windmill and end up in the iron keep. This confused people because they didn't know that the windmill is actually a giant CIA plane that takes off and crashes onto iron keep with no survivors after you kill the baneful mascara wearing queen.

>>166948334
I could use some help if you're still here

>>166948464
Based Pontiff

>>166948875
>>>/r9k/

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I'm starting to think Aldrich actually did nothing wrong.

>>166948780
use refined. as a newfig, you need know nothing else
>>166948875
it also had a whole forest of bigguys4u

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>>166948464
>Sully shitposters
Fuck off

>>166948967
who can blame him for doing what he did?

I'm looking for a good lightning weapon, whether I have to buff it with Lightning blade or not.
Any suggestions?

>>166948780
Disregard original question, I think I basically get it. So should I infuse my Astora straight sword with a raw gem? And basically just double down on that shitty scaling while I'm a newfag?

>>166948910

Will be at High Wall. Pass: dsg
Quelemma

>>166948780
Refined is almost always the best choice for the vast majority of weapons. You get one in early game but you won't see them again for a long time after that, so spend it on a weapon you really like.

Heavy and Sharp are sometimes worth it but only if you've really, really specced into either Strength or Dex over the other, and if the weapon was obviously intended for only one scaling.

Scaling elemental infusions like Blessed, Dark and Chaos are rarely worth it. Rarely.

Non-scaling infusions like Raw, Deep and Fire are only good in very early game.

>>166949067
Thanks!
I'm on my way

>>166948675
Leonhard killed her before i could.

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>>166948967

>>166948995
>final boss is a woman scheming after power who cucked her husband

Holy shit, they made Nashandra weak on purpose to show how useless women are

>her soul is literally the soul of want, because all women want is more and more things, bigger and bigger nigger cocks

holy shit redpilled

>>166949072
see >>166949058

Is this a good idea while I'm still at the first level? With the understanding, obviously, that I'll be abandoning this weapon for something else as I level up?

>Shit Souls 3
>last game in the series
>clear quick, unfinished, bland cashgrab
>the most linear of all the games, even compared to DeS and BB
>nostalgiafag reference pandering out the ass
>rehashed animations
>rehashed locations
>rehashed characters, right down to their model
>Lowest Boss count after DeS
>Most bosses are gimmicks
>Boss weapons shit as usual, despite having 4 games to draw experience from
>weapons in general are 90% quality based
>these quality weapons are also usually the best weapons in their class
>some weapons have retarded stat requirements where they don't even scale with said stats, which also happens to be quality
>armor system a horrible imbalanced mess
>the heaviest armors are the heaviest they have ever been in the series, while offering basically no additional defense over medium/light sets
>poise implemented in such a stupid way that only Greatswords and Maces get the most bang for the buck
>Some UGSs, GAs, and Hammers weigh more than entire armor sets
>Equip load is now done by VIT, which for some reason gives LESS per level than fucking dark souls 2
>a majority of the small weapons sped up to bloodborne speed, but some of the larger weapons have been made SLOWER and consume MORE STAMINA
>rolls cost next to nothing with extremely fast recovery and many iframes
>magic is garbage
>faith is garbage
>FP system is the worst system conceived
>Too many useless fucking stats
>WAs are mostly just special r2s or powerstance moves copypasted with an explosion or two at the end
>MLGS is the worst its ever been
>awful covenants
>covenants are stickers which can be changed on the go
>shitty rewards
>Dragon form the worst its ever been in both aesthetic and practical sense
>community now filled with normies who hold hands with their SL 800 Friends to get through the game
>invaders have the most disadvantage compared to all other games in the series
>First DLC was a 1.5 hour long disappointment with a rehashed arena
>Second DLC looks no better

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>>166948967
>tentacles

>>166949072
>Dark and Chaos are rarely worth it

Dark is just an alternative to refined really. It's pretty viable.

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>>166948780
Okay noobcake heres the noobscoop, 14str for the various shields with resistances, 14dex so you can use a longbow for pulling, 12 fai so you can use a raw ASS and then put everything in vig to 27 then end to 30 and then do what you want from there, you can start building str/dex to use different weapons or pump up vig and end to 40.

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Just finished the game and...who is the knight dude in the back?

can Kirk no longer invade after you kill Deacons?
I want that thorn set
:(

dark souls 3 was a mistake. bring back pvp in cleared areas

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>>166948464
>muh pontiff

>>166949438
Been a while since I saw this one.


>>166949510
Anri

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What are you expecting for the final member of the sable church sister trio?

>>166949510
anri, have you been paying no attention?

>>166949510
>dude

>>166949581
Ah totally forgot about her.

>>166949072
>blessed
>elemental

>dark and chaos are rarely worth it

Spoken like a true quality scrub with only 115 dark defense.

>>166949480 me too

>>166949067
I saw your sign but directly failed to summon, did someone else summon you ?

>>166949050
dragonslayer's axe

>>166949598
>>166949613
Yeah :( >>166949628

>>166949506
This is actually remarkably similar to what I had in mind anyway. Already got my 12 Faith, 14 Dex (for the bow like you say), and I got my Str to 16 because I thought I wanted to use the halberd. Turns out I don't like the halberd as much as I did in DS1 but whatever. Why are 27 and 30 your exact numbers for Vig and End though?

>>166949402
Raw is probably worth it that early in the game, yeah. I hear people talking about 'raw ASS' on here quite a lot so I'm fairly certain it's a viable early game weapon. You can change the infusion on a weapon at any time, or even use a shriving stone to remove it entirely.

>>166949460
Only for faith builds though, surely?

>>166949647
Blessed does lightning damage, doesn't it?

Do not bully me please and thank you.

>>166949705

No. Still here.

>>166949860
>raw ASS
Kek I saw that too but I didn't know what they were talking about. I only just now put the abbreviation together. I'm either an idiot or a retard. Thanks famalam.

>>166949879
Fugg
I'll restart the game

>>166949784
27 vig puts you at 1k hp and endurance is always good. You dont have to have 30 endurance, 25 is fine but its better to have atleast 30.

>>166949860
>Only for faith builds though, surely?

No. Dark scales from both int and faith so you get good scaling from two stats. Same with Chaos.

>>166949545
nope but I could drop you his stuff if you're on pc

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What's the deal with those autists that feel like going to NG+7 and maxing out their character in all stats?

>>166950142
>autists

I think you answered your own question.

>>166950212
/thread

>>166950073
What to heck I thought they both only scaled off faith

Holy fuck I was planning on making either an INT/FAI pyromancer or a INT/FAI Darkwraith so I could actually use those.

>>166949582
I want a decent, straight up fight with no healthbar trickery, maybe some dialogue before and during the bossfight but if she says something after she kills you the dialogue shouldn't play after the first time except when you were close to killing her.

The fight can have multiple phases but it would be fair if it was honest about the boss' healthbar and just gave you one long healthbar to give you an indication of how long the fight is gonna be.

>>166949582
>Liliane wrote their bible and miracles
>half the miracles are made to punish naughty pilgrims while telling them it's for their own good
>all three sisters were weapon masters
>train their pilgrims in the arts of dark miracles and swordplay to defend the church
>all three took lessons from Kaathe
>Friede may have defected, but she wasn't really all that different and turned the painting into mini-Londor and bitch-whipped the previous leader into whipping himself and doing her bidding

At this point, I'm expecting the kind of woman who holds biweekly torture sessions in her basement for fun and calls them "enlightenment training" so the torturees don't realize shes getting off on it. Dominant, manipulative, and vindictive. Probably wields a whip, not as a serious weapon but because she cares that much about maintaining her image.

>>166950142
I do that, it satisfies my completionist itch and allows me to solidify a dedicated pve character while most others will never never even go beyond NG.

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>>166950142
>not taking a sl120 meme meta build into ng+7
Because they gay

>9/10 UGS are all better refined 27/40 2H, than 66 STR 2H

really activated those neurons

>>166949983

Nothing? Try putting yours down.

>>166950142
They're enjoying the game, what's wrong with that ?

>>166950016
Cool like I said I was kind of thinking in this direction already but this gives me some more specific goals I guess. Thanks friendo.

>>166950383
Nothing, I'll put my red sign down

>>166950375
which ones are the 10%? or are you just throwing numbers?

>>166950392
after like level 300 on NG+3 there's absolutely no content new whatsoever, only pure unadulterated autism.

Trying to do Dancer at SL33, anyone want to help

>>166950543
also trying to do pontiff at sl33

would also co-op through irithyll dungeons

>>166949860
>Blessed does lightning damage, doesn't it?

>dark is just an alternative to refined
>only for faith builds though?

>Do not bully me please

You dumb fucker, I'm going to bully you so hard for this.

Blessed does physical. Pure physical. It's Faith-scaling physical damage. Little known fact, it tends to be slightly better than Lightning against other players because everyone has 40 End (lightning defense scales off End) but minimum Vit (physical defense scales mostly off Vit and a little off Str). By the way, yes, defenses make a difference of about 20-30 damage per hit, and since virtually no one is running around with Faith except pyromancers, Dark-infused weapons can do damage equal to Refined weapons against a quality build. Dark weapons do less against other pyro builds, but they also have minimum Str (which determines fire defense), meaning Chaos weapons are as good against other pyros as Dark weapons are against quality.

Speaking of, Chaos and Dark both scale with both Int and Fth together, you idiot. Is quality the only build you've ever made? Did you never bother to check? I know hexes are bad in this game, but that's just inexcusable.

>>166950524
There's literally only 10 UGS in the game and only FUGS is the non-quality one.

>>166950142
Testing out new build concepts without making a whole new character or spending a respec just to try.

Also, going through a DLC and testing everything in one go before sending your other characters through is pretty nice.

>>166950524
fugs and cathedral knight

>>166950383
Thanks a lot !

>>166950543
>get dark hand
>miraclebuff with human pine
>kill dancer under 1 min

>>166949784
btw, if you find greirat make sure you buy your arrows from him instead of the handmaiden, loads cheaper off greirat.

>>166951016

No prob. You doing low-level invasions?

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>Got game
>Having a blast without looking up guides
>Take my time and explore and shit, never bored
>Make it to a giant door with summon signs, assuming a boss fight
>One of the signs is golden
>"Summon Sunlight Bro"
>A golden fellow arrives and I gesture him politely
>We go in and kick his ass, really fun fight
>Both jump for joy
>Waves good bye and disappears, his job his done
>Time to advance into the world, with him earning me a Sunlight Medallion to remember him by

Holy shit DS3 is my first Souls game and I fucking love it. One of the most comfiest experiences I've had. Thanks Sunlight Bro, I'll never forget you.

>>166950957
CK is actually quality too

>>166950330
>tfw only ever really pushed DaS2 into NG+
I'm planning to rectify this with Bloodborne though.

>>166949582
>Elfriede has purple eyes, normal skin and brown hair
>Yuria has yellow eyes, dead pale skin and white hair
>sisters

I don't know what to expect for the third sister. Maybe black hair blue eyes short hair masterrace?

>>166951052
I did find him, but I didn't know he sold arrows. Where's this Loretta bitch he wants me to give his ring to? Is that anywhere near or just forget it for now?

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>people still unironically recommend stopping at 27vit when there are weapons that can do 1200 in two hits

>>166950329
Whip would be alright to start as long as she switches to a real weapon to try and finish you off

>>166949438
I'm as much a critic of DaS3's flaws as anyone else, but hey man, Demon's Souls and Bloodborne weren't linear at all.

And I'm actually sort of a fan of the FP system, I've always thought that the limited casts system from the first two games was too arbitrary, plus Wilted Dusk Herbs from slutgear farming completely removed the downsides to casting in DaS2.

>>166951187
Thats in the undead settlement, just explore everything.

>>166951068
Yes, I was at first aiming for SL 140 for PvP in gank city, but I also love to invade pre Pontiff, which is much more active at low SL, it's pretty fun.

Is it a bit too much for forest invasions ?

>>166951153
DaS3 is the only one I've really gotten a lot of time out of NG+ from. I'm not really sure why, I think I just love fighting the bosses and trying out different equipment setups all on the same character.

NG+ was a lot of fun in DaS2 though, but that game is so long that I can't help but be burnt out after a playthrough.

>>166951153
>I'm planning to rectify this with Bloodborne though
Don't, Bloodborne is worse than DaS3 for NG+. DaS3 at least has the upgraded rings and twin prince's sword, but Bloodborne has nothing you didn't get in the previous cycle. You'll only find new stuff in the depth 5 CRF chalice dungeons.

>>166951261
>just like my real dks3 pvp

>>166951210
Well you can survive if you have FaP ring +2 and life ring +3

>>166950957
CKGS literally gets more damage from Refined at 40/25 Str/Dex than it does Heavy with 40 Str.

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>>166951210
I recommended base stats to aim for when starting the game.

Reading comprehension.

Do I risk a ban if I duplicate a character with CE ?

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Running out of MP in boss fights as a pure caster is awful.

>>166950771
WAIT FUCK I WAS GETTING LIGHTNING GEMS AND BLESSED GEMS CONFUSED
I THOUGHT LIGHTNING ADDED FLAT LIGHTNING DAMAGE AND BLESSED ADDED SCALING LIGHTNING DAMAGE

>Builds
I checked how much damage Dark would do on my weapon on my strength/faith build but it would have been quite disappointing, and at the time I was sure it only scaled from faith so I didn't bother to check the item description. If I had I guess I'd have seen at the time that the reason the scaling was so bad is probably because that character didn't have any intelligence.

Then my quality build uses twinkling titanite weapons so I never bothered checking infusions.

My int/fai pyromancy build I never checked Chaos because I use the immolation tinder as a weapon.

>>166951297
one of the das2 dlcs had a crown that just slowly regenerated all your spellcasts
you could run around in pve with a permanently-buffed weapon

>>166951582
time to get a secondary

even mage npcs have a secondary, don't be stupid

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>weeboblades WA has a ministun that allows it to combo
>wolf GS doesn't
ain't fair guys, it just ain't fair

>>166951341
>Bloodborne has nothing you didn't get in the previous cycle
Actually, I take that back. There's one section where you can send NPCs to one of two different places, and you get different rewards for it. Problem is, the rewards for both are meant for really early game. Example: sending a little girl to the wrong place gives you a rune that lets you carry a single extra bullet in your inventory.

>>166951436
>he thinks 1,501 hp is good
>when I have 1,951

Did you know there's a point where you have so much HP your damage reduction from armor actually makes a difference? I did. It takes about 8-10 hits from a non-ultra weapon to kill my character. And, of course, 27vit losers like you still die in 4 hits at best. I literally have twice the survivability without losing any stamina or weapon AR.

>>166951658
My secondary is the GSoJ, and I fought with that for a while until I ran out of estus and was low on HP, so I hid in the corner until they won. I gave it my all.

>>166951582
>>166951658
My pure caster build has darkmoon longbow secondary
And DMB raw ASS as a last resort if I save enough FP to cast it.

>>166951767
your all wasn't enough

I just beat False King Allant to a pulp with a 40/40 meat cleaver. What did I think of it?

What's a good SL and WL for cathedral/keep/carthus invasions? Somewhere around 40 +4?

>>166951313
nothings too much for invasions

>>166951894
Yeah but that's the pontiff. You have to kill the pontiff before you can kill Aldritch.

>>166951903
This is true.

>>166951761
Do you have something to tell us, Anon ?
Are you overcompensating for something ? :^)

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>>166951341
Well I mean I want to use all the cool endgame equipment so I do want to do some NG+ cycles.

Of course I'm also buying DS3 GOTY and hopefully pushing that deep into NG+ cycles as well.

What's a fun build for DS2? Something reliant on rolling.

>>166951953
Ah fair point, still raw ass is the best secondary for pure casters.

>>166952018
>Something reliant on rolling.
uh, anything without a shield equipped?
what do you mean

>>166951592
Neither of them add flat damage, so you're even more confused than you thought you were. The only flat damage infusions are Raw, Fire, and Deep.

Side note, Blessed is the only physical infusion that can't be buffed. Probably why nobody uses it.

Why in the eternal fires of hell are you using Immolation Tinder on a pyromancer? That's a pure Int weapon, you dolt. I don't just mean it only gains scaling from Int, I mean it's one of the weapons that scales all the way up to 60 instead of 40. It gets an extra 66 fire AR from those 20 levels. Also, it casts sorceries, and its spell adjust only scales with Int. Point of comparison: at 40int and 40fth, a Dark infused Dark Sword has 105+22 physical and 136+193 dark AR.

Is DaS3 your first souls game or something?

why is Dark Hands hitbox so shit?

>>166952142
miracles, sorceries, hex, specific fun weapons, etc.

>>166951462
>>166951138
>27/40 2handed 556
>66/10 2handed 568

>>166952053
I don't disagree with that, but I wanted something magical-looking for my aesthetics. Wound up being the GSoJ.

>>166952018
I saw a ninja build that looked fun, used bone fist, katana, high adaptability and dex, poison stuff I think.

>>166951963
I just like to watch people panic when their curved swords do tiny chip damage. Is that so bad?

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>>166951761
I guess 27vit would suck if you were bad enough to get hit more than once let alone at all.

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What's the consensus (if any) on the primordial serpents? is it just Kaathe and Frampt?
-Multiple serpents?
-2 hydras?
-1 hydra? (they are all one and the same)

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>>166951761
Found a havel scrub

>>166952278
>27/40 is a SL 49 warrior
>66/10 is a SL 58 warrior
>36/40 is a SL 58 warrior and gets 578 AR on a refined 2h CKGS

Idiot

best way to upgrade shields to do damage in ds1?

>>166952314
Oh look, it's the return of the "you only get hit if you're bad" meme.

I only fight people who are actually good enough to hit me in the first place. Fighting against noob hosts who don't know about spacing isn't any fun, and there's nothing wrong with having a better build. It lets you fight better people on a more even level, in fact.

>>166952476
>implying havel
Too heavy, defense gains are too minor for the weight, doesn't let me use other weapons or a shield with it.

>>166952280
Fair enough I guess, the ass looks pretty good to me and even description says designed for royalty so I liked it for my royalty based caster.

>>166951120
Souls can be pretty fucking comfy sometimes.

>>166952504
>original post was saying about 27/40 2handed versus 66/10 2handed

Dummy
>>166952529
Lightning

>>166951761
>embered HP

So you're either a duelshitter, ganker or pro dried finger faggot

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>>166951934
pls

>>166952762
No, it said 40/25 refined versus 40/10 heavy, which isn't fair either.

>>166952278
>>166952504

Why does shit even matter over the weapon you want to use? Just get the best stats for the weapon and use it. It's not like people can see your 40/40 stats when you fight them or whatever.

>>166952931
But that's wring, you silly willy
>>166950375

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>>166952164
Yeah I mean I thought blessed did what lightning did, and I didn't realise that lightning had scaling.

The character is a Fire Witch cosplay. I just use the Immolation Tinder as a melee weapon with a really useful weapon art, then use pyromancies in the other hand. I've got way more in INT on that pyro than FTH, so the Immolation Tinder does good damage, but enough points in both and both pyromancy rings so my spells hit hard enough.

3 isn't my first game but playing dress up has always been my favourite bit of the game even if it requires that I hurt my own viability.

Please don't bully me too hard.

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>>166952571
>"you only get hit if you're bad" meme.
>"you only get hit if you're bad"
>meme

get #rekt

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>final dlc is on the way
>decide to finally make a quality character to use all the new weapons
>wait a minute, the other dlc had weird shit like that scythe
>decide to make a dex/int character for weird shit
>hold up, wasn't the flayulh str/fth
>maybe they'll make dex/fth and str/int weapons too
>what if they make actual pure faith weapons this time
>i might need to respec my pyro like with onyx blade
>i heard luck was pretty fun too

>i now have 10 new builds planned with no signs of slowing down
>considering buying a new flash drive to make the extras on

Please send help, I've caught the autism.

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Did FROM say the upcoming DLC is the last one? We're really only getting two DLCs?

>>166953259
>The character is a Fire Witch cosplay
>I just use the Immolation Tinder as a melee weapon with a really useful weapon art

Go look up a weapon called "Witch's Locks".

>I've got way more in INT on that pyro than FTH
>but enough points in both and both pyromancy rings so my spells hit hard enough

Not good enough. Go 40int/40fth or go home.

>Please don't bully me too hard
At this rate, you may have to apply lube if you want to have an ass left afterwards.

>>166953351
>to make the extras on
is there some way to change the save location or are you just talking about backing up your old characters to that before you make the new ones?

>>166953569
>fire witch
>locks

>>166952429
The ending of DaS1 shows there's more than just Kaathe and Frampt... unless, Kaathe and Frampt are two hydras like you said, and all those heads belonged to them.

I'm sure the serpents are physically connected in some way, even if I'm not sure that Kaathe and Frampt are secretly working together, because of the caduceus shield.

I really hope we'll see what's become of them in the final DLC.

I've seen an interesting theory that claims the Soulfeeder from Ludleth's ring description was a Primordial Serpent.

Just woke up from 12 hours sleep, had a dream of the new souls game, it was basically a Dark Souls reboot with a lot of reworked concepts and a dark high fantasy world. I'll list the things I remember before I forget them

>shitloads of armor sets, vanity menu where you could change the hue/brightness of your armor and turn on/off cloth/capes. It didn't work perfectly but was great for making sets match. You could also close the visor of your helmet by pressing L3 on the helmet selection
>equip load didn't exist, all armors had their goods and bads. You could also transfer armor effects (like more item discovery%) from one armor to another. This involved a shitload of mindless grind through random generated dungeons
>not much weapon variation, you had one basic form of each weapon class and then another two or three with gimmick (fire damage/faith scaling/etc). Two weapons of the same class with the same moveset equipped would behave exactly the same
>you equipped movesets, kinda like God Hand. You started with Straight Attack and Heavy Attack, our regulars R1 and R2. As you progressed, you would get Leap Attack, Charge Attack, Heavy Bash, and so on. Depending the weapon class you had equipped, the same moveset would be different. Charge with a straight sword was a thrust, with a greatsword was a running pommel bash, for example, don't remember specifics.
>there was no magic as we know, you just equipped the magic item and then assigned a moveset to it, and it would behave accordingly. There was no mana or uses, you just used stamina like if you were attacking normally
>hardest souls game to date, people were bitching non stop about it on /v/. Had a lot of convoluted shit and was really easy to miss a lot of NPCs because one step wrong and you fucked everything
>no iframes, you had to physically dodge attacks using sidesteps and dashes, or just parry them
[cont]

>>166953505
>Did FROM say the upcoming DLC is the last one?
Yes
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/53xuso/ign_jp_posts_a_miyazaki_interview_of_whats_in_dlc/

>We're really only getting two DLCs?
Yes. Also, they're ending the series at 3.

The painter girl says things that suggests buying both may give bonus content, but that's it.

>>166953798
>parry was a big thing. Basically, if two people hit each other at the same time, the attacks would clash and parry each other, meaning you had to hit people when they were not attacking or overwhelm their parry with a heavy attack. This was easily accomplished by big giant weapons, but their big recovery frames also meant they were easily punishable
>no weapons upgrades, all your damage bonus was from scaling
>katanas were overpowered, shields were utterly useless, Moonlight Greatsword went back to faith
>ripostes nowhere to be seen, backstabs changed to a damage bonus when hitting on the back
>being invaded locked everyone out of heals; Only 3 covenants, red, blues and yellows. Reds invaded hosts, Blues invaded reds and Yellows focused on PvE help. Covenants went back to retarded thresholds like win 500 invasions to go up 1 rank
>you could invade/be summoned anywhere no matter the level. The scaling system was used for everything, so you could invade a level 10 with your level 100 normally, you would just be scaled accordingly

I'm sure there was more but I forgot by now

>>166953662
>a whip made from witch's hair
>that is also on fire

>>166951561
pls answer

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>>166953569
Fire Witch as in the enemy from Irithyll, not a Daughter of Chaos.

I can't remember what my faith actually is, just that it's lower than my INT. I think it's more like 50/30 INT/FTH rather than 40/40.

please not my dark sigil

>>166953689
damn dude, you got RAPEDDDD

>>166953807
I knew about the series ending, but I hoped for more than 2 DLC's since it's that last game. That really sucks.

What does the painter girl say to imply that? If you kill her I remember her dialog changing to something about looking for the Dark Soul of man which might reference the coming DLC.

>>166953904
Witch of Izalith, m8. Not Irithyll

>>166953904
>enemy literally called fire witch only uses one weapon
>huurrr, use this other weapon

>>166954025
I somehow forgot there was an actual enemy called a fire witch.

What pyromancies are you using, and why do they have a Faith requirement?

>>166953807
>If you combine both DLC1 and DLC2, the size would be approximately Artorias of the Abyss, or alternatively similar size to a DLC of a SOULS series

Remember when Artorias of the Abyss was $25

good times

>>166954368
This is funny to hear because AoA alone is longer than AotA and has more content excluding bosses.
Though Miyazaki said the same about TOH back in days.

Anyone here use any ENBs or other mods for Das 2 SotFS that they'd recommend?

>>166954490
They also said the same thing about the Crown trilogy.

To be fair, AotA's size was mostly taken up by a black, lightless abyss.

>>166954592
It was still a pretty rad, lightless abyss.

>SL 40 pyro for cathedral & farron and shit
>"Smouldering Lutz"
y/n?

>>166954592
The Chasm of the Abyss is one of the shortest areas in any of the DLCs released across the series, though.

Did soul drop got buffed?
I remember week 1 everyone was reaching irithyll at SL 35 and finishing the game around SL 60

>>166953689
Where is the fucking fun in doing this?

>>166954490
>more content
>if you exclude content

McKill yourself

>>166954645
Chasm of Abyss is probably my least favourite location in the entire DS1. Relatively small, cramped space littered with highly uninteresting enemies. I had more fun exploring Izalith.

>>166954741

Probably fewer people losing their bloodstain/spending it on a lot of different things, and more people knowing about the CSSR.

Do you guys think Manus catalyst will return in this dlc?
I hope it does and that it casts only dark spells.

>>166954728
Shortest horizontally, yes. Vertically speaking, it was pretty huge, and the rest of AotA had that same problem as well. You didn't really go up or down in AotA like you did in Shulva or TOH.

>>166954781
Fair enough. I still liked it.

>>166953689
>going into other people's worlds to kill them
>complains about others not playing fair
I wish I could do that shit to invaders on PS4, I'm so tired of people abusing red eye orbs.

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>>166954926

>>166954182
Fire Storm to represent the move where they slam their Tinder down on the ground and a big pillar of flame rises up from under you.

Fire Surge to represent the move where they shoot a stream of fire at you from the tip of their staff.

Profaned Flame because it's lore appropriate (the Immolation Tinder's fire is the Profaned Flame).

Liberal use of the Weapon Art, it's really fun and great for roll catching, and very few people seem familiar with it compared to Black Flame.

I also have that spell where you shoot lots of little fireballs because I think it's really cool and it's alright for roll catching. I might switch it out for Sacred Flame though, to represent the attack where the Fire Witch spears you on her Tinder.


I can't remember what the minimum faith I needed for all of those was, but I'm a bit above it. I assumed some faith was better than no faith for the pyromancy damage.

>>166954781
It was the best place for invading or gravelording though. If you gravelord there, they get two black phantom chained prisoners that hide in the humanity swarms, not to mention there was that one BP vagrant that would always appear on that one ledge, because people kept getting shot by it and losing their bloodstain, which would make another vagrant and send that one off to someone else's world.

>>166954926
Most whiny invaders just aren't good at invading. They have to find an oblivious new player by their lonesome to have fun.

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>1 ring
>it's a resistance for two enemies outside the dlc
>and three inside the DLC

>>166955025
Yes, some faith is better than no faith for pyromancies. But you're also using a weapon that's very stamina hungry, so something has to give somewhere.

I guess you're doing alright on the cosplay, at least.

>>166954831
If they will also add dark beads and true pursuers, sure, why not.

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Are great weapons viable yet?

>>166955354
never ever after des

>>166954831
>DLC
>adding dark spells
Lul the devs fucking hate dark spells in DaS3 and it shows. We didn't even see anything close to a dark spell in the trailer.

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>>166954831
I hope that if it does it casts all the dark spells.

Even if they do nothing else, I hope they at least fix dark spells.

>>166955474
ok bye

Anyone knows a good lv 80ish place to invade in DS1?

I also want to invade with a fun "build" so it doesnt matter if its the meta or if that level is crowded or not

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>>166954664
Do it.

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The following statistics have been confirmed by MrIwont4get as being very similar, if not completely accurate. He is a Dark Souls content creator and pillar of the community. He has just returned home from a trip to a special Bandai Namco press conference, where select individuals were given the opportunity to play the new DLC for Dark Souls 3, The Ringed City.


Archdragon Greatshield +5
100% physical
75% magical
100% fire
14% lightning
75% dark
87 stability
39 units
60 strength to wield, C scaling.

Weapon Art (35 FP): Encases the Archdragon's head in an ancient armor, granting it nigh-indestructibility, and making its wielder impervious to harm.

The weapon has a unqiue moveset when it is held with two hands. Your light attack (LMB, R1, RB) will make a very quick bash that is significantly speedier than the same attack of other greatshields. Your Heavy Attack, ( mod LMB, R2, RT) will cause the latent power of the Archdragon to awaken, removing several durability points from the shield, but causing a great flame to belch forth from the depths of the shield, burning foes asunder. In addition, when using the weapon's jumping attack, landing will cause a small firey shockwave to eminent out in a cone, causing moderate damage to those caught in its path. Furthermore, the shield will automatically block any attacks while it is attacking, including during it's jumping attack, similarly to a previous DLC weapon, Valorheart.

Using a character with 66 strength and two-handing the shield, it reaches an astonishing 720 AR. However, much of the shield is fire damage, and as such, the actual damage will be significantly lower than its listed AR. The weapon art is astonishingly similar to the effect of the "Great Magic Shield" sorcery, however, unlike that spell, this effect does not grant Lightning absorption.

>>166955678
It is also worth mentioning that the shield is upgrading using titanite scales, and that the shield is also one of the only shields in the entire game that is granted increased absorption as it is upgraded, as its base block statistics are indeed pitifully low, at 0% across the board.

Nine (9) days until Nioh ruins the souls series

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>>166955678
>pyroshitters on suicide watch
pyroshitters on suicide watch

>>166955634
I'm thinking like, +4 or +5 for catacombs, church and shit?

>>166954664
>Not "Smouldering Putz"

>>166955678
>a greatshield that buffs itself with strong magic shield
Fucking kek. I'd almost believe this, if it weren't for

>pillar of the community

>>166955852
I'm at +6 and can still invade in the dungeon, so +4 and +5 should be good.

>>166955834
Ruin? You mean Save

Dark Souls needs Nioh to improve. No competition made the series stale.

>>166955678
That art alone is how I know you're full of shit, not to mention the literal fanfiction tier paragraph after it. You've already posted this before, but the sad thing is some retards are going to actually believe any of this simply because you keep posting it.

>>166956024
Nioh is confirmed to have PvP but most likely no invasions, which means it'll take most of the cancer away from Souls

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>>166955852
+4, certainly.
5 is too high, you risk missing some people, a lot of literal Chads being carried by normie friends barely upgrade their shit.

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>>166955495
I don't care about new dark spells I just want a catalyst that casts all nine existing spells and a pair of rings that buffs dark spells.

>>166955834
Is that a souls rip off game?

I don't really like asian-styled games. Souls has a nice European look.

>>166956116
I hope it's good so I have another reason to buy a PS4 besides Bloodborne

>>166956069
Is there something I could say to you, or at least show you that gives, at best, plausibility?

That "fan fiction"-tier paragraph is a paraphrased introduction of the weapon given by a Bandai Namco employee upon revealing the shield to those present.

>>166955678
I love how the dragon head goes over the grass below it

>>166956158

It's been in dev for 10 years so I doubt it rips off of souls. Its much more like onimusha and ninja gaiden. The game has stamina and you lock on to enemies in 3rd person and theres checkpoints that respawn enemies thats really where the similarities end.

>>166955678
>there's a person autistic enough to write this wall of fanfiction nobody will ever take seriously
i enjoy filtering shitty copypastas

>>166956339
>for 10 years
Is it actually coming out then? Dev hell games can be iffy.

>>166956205
Bruh the picture is literally just a dragon head pasted over a screen cap we can see how the shield sits on top of the grass the character is standing behind try harder

>>166956158

The creator of the game says hes never even played dark souls so I doubt it's a rip off. Also you play as an Irishman and can use broadswords so theres still european influence.

>>166956140
Those irithyll webms at 40? Or around 60? 60 is what I've always seen recommended for irithyll.

>>166956392
They put out a working demo. One assumes that the game would be past all of its major hurdles if that were the case.

>>166956392

It comes out in 9 days so I think a delay is off the table.

>tfw immense fear that the dlc really will have a greatshield with a great magic shield weapon art

holy fuck even if it does weigh as much as havels and needs 60 strength to use the only way to counter this shit is to just constantly carry around a raw dragonslayer's axe.

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>>166956562
44, +4
I'm underleveled for this place for sure, but i mainly invade in catacombs and kill at least 90% of hosts so it doesn't matter.
60 looks like an overkill, majority of hosts i see here are barely 50.

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>>166955617
ples respond

Anyone has a spare Silver Knight leggings ? I don't want to farm them for just that
PC

>>166952871
Yes

>>166952571
getting hit (except in a trade that you win) is always a mistake in souls pvp
but it's not only bad players who make mistakes

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PCFC at Farron Bridge?

Pass: dsg

>>166957086
Yes. Look above. Same applies.

>>166957254
Is anyone not allowed to attend?

Is it okay if I come on a SL250?

>>166957018
I like it. I haven't really explored uneven/"middling" SL's for invasions much but that sounds smart. The range calculator tells me that'll give between 30 and 58, which seems pretty good.

What if Souls games didn't have diminishing returns or softcaps on stat investment and each level in a stat gave the exact benefits as the level previous?

>>166957450

When has anyone not been allowed to come?

>250

I guess.

>>166957254
Sweet, character's name is Orphan
I forgot that when I traded stuff between characters with Quelemma earlier

>>166957729
Fuck off, Drake.

>>166957729
>
t. Claire

>>166954741
the worse you are at a soulsgame the more souls you make

>godlike player who never dies
>play through area + boss exactly once and move on to the next one
>get 1x soul drops from enemies, 1x soul drops from boss

>badplayer
>play through area like 15 times, die to boss each time, but pick up bloodstain before you do
>get 15x soul drops from enemies, 1x soul drops from boss

the people playing on week 1 were likely returning souls fans and thus better on average

>>166957662
Exponentially powerfull builds,
I don't think the way it is is that horrendous but i'm sure that will lead to really bulshit situations, hacker like.

Someone have a link to that fashion souls simulator site?

>>166957812
This assumes the bad player can get back to their bloodstain without dying again, which isn't accurate.

>>166957812
all bad players I help are devastated when they loose their blood stain because they needed those souls, where as better ones spend them or don't loose them.

the bad ones get more souls but they loose them.

Longbow or crossbow, in DS3? Guessing longbow?

Also I bought over 100 arrows and it said the extra ones went into storage. Is that like in Bloodborne? Where is that?

>>166957662
you would get players with 99 in one damage stat and nothing else invading and oneshotting their poor victims

>>166958305
but this already happens

>>166958302
Crossbows don't scale so longbow.

>>166958302
Composite bow in PvE

Arbalest in PvP

>>166958302
Storage is at bonfires.
Arrows are pulled from storage automatically so don't worry about it.

>>166958302
Yeah it works like Bloodborne. You can access your storage box at any bonfire, and you'll also automatically withdraw items to top up items. So if you use 5 arrows and rest at the bonfire, you'll go from 94 to 99 again and deduct 5 from the number in storage.

>>166957662
That'd be stupid. For one, it'd kill the hell out of what little build diversity exists, and for two pvp builds would take forever to make.

You think the meta is bland now with nothing but quality/pyro running around, imagine if those two builds were literally twice as powerful as any other build, and were also SL360.

>>166958614
I miss having 999 arrows

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>trying to make a semi-decent character
>picture freezes and won't reflect any more changes
>save to favourite and load into game
>it defaults to a different favourite and the new favourite doesn't exist

Fuck you From.

>>166958737
I wish we could have 9999 in storage.

99 on person is fine. Bows do way more damage relative to HP pools in DaS3.

>>166958737
they only did this to stop me from tickling the giant to death in cathedral of the deep, didn't they

>>166958954
I still did it though.

>SL 55
>+3 weapon
>at a 120 FC

I'm suffering
Can I get a Silver Knight leggings pls

>>166958879
It was kind of ridiculous how many times you needed to shoot shit in DS1 tbqhwy.

>>166959529

Orphan? My bad.

>>166959529
ur a lil bish

go farm it yourself

>>166955527
>>166954831
Yeah I'm still pissed deadagain is absolute horseshit. Did people complain about it in ds2? Its your own fault if you walk on a pile of corpses.

And btw if you look at the cut content stuff in the OP there's something about a pitch black pyromancy flame.

>>166959529
go eat shit faggot or log on your pyro fucking shitter cunt

>>166959668
No problem, thanks again !

>>166959891
Seems like someone is mad, may I know why ?

>>166959286
i just stabbed him in the ankles

like most enormous DS enemies he has a grand total of 1 attack that can actually hit you if you just stand behind his foot and poke his ankle to death

>>166959825
nobody used deadagain in ds2 except a few dudes on utoob who would kite all the enemies into one small area, kill them all there, then wait for a bluecop to invade and instakill him with corpsexplosion

basically it was only useful if you were spending way too much time trying to abuse it

I need a tongue, where is best place to farm without invading, outside Abyss Watchers?

>>166960346
outside Abyss Watchers

>>166960269
>tfw still serves this purpose very well

im not sure where that anon pulled 200 damage per corpse out of his ass. I usually get like 350ish per corpse at 45/45

wait a minute who keeps saying that there's only 9 hexes?

there's like 12

deep soul
great deep soul
affinity
dark edge

black flame
black serpent
black fire orb

gnaw
dorhys' gnawing
dead again
lifehunt scythe
dark blade

plus the god-tier support hexes: vow of silence, deep protection, rapport, and atonement

>>166960412
Its still only 3 corpses. Why does from hate fun?
>>166960269
I know. I was so hyped for it in ds3 because we actually have fucking ragdolls again. Then they have to go and nerf the shit out of it.

>>166960732
dark pyromancies have never once been hexes
not even in ds2

>>166960412
Haven't used it in ds3 but
>explodes up to 3 corpses
is a big downside
in ds2 you could just get as massive of a memepile as you wanted and oneshot anyone because it blew up all corpses in range

>>166960785
then why did that anon say some shit about needing three catalysts to cast hexes in das3?

>>166960732
gnaw, dorhys' gnawing, and rapport don't count.

>>166956507
> we can see how the shield sits on top of the grass the character is standing behind
?
I might be blind, what part of the picture is it?

>>166961020
Gnaw, dorhys' gnawing, and rapport are all considered dark magic though

gnaw and gnawing deal dark damage in addition to a good amount of bleed auxillary, whereas rapport is an inherently cruel spell that is highly characteristic of dark magic

>>166961129
Rapport was never called a hex and was taught by a regular pyromancy teacher before hexes were even introduced to the series

>>166961129
how is rapport considered to be dark magic?

rapport has been a pyromancy since ds1, which is a distinctly separate category. I would call gnaw/ dohrys' gnawing hexes though.

>>166960732
Atonement? I thought that was kind of a joke/story spell.

>>166961323
same idea as the red eye ring, right?
could be useful in co-op if you have a bigass greatshield
just tank the boss while your buddies all stab him in ass

>>166961323
Atonement is a much more powerful version of the skull ring and/or moaning shield.

It literally just forces aggro of all nearby enemies onto you.

Why did Dark Souls 3 rip off so many Bloodborne concepts?

>tfw being a pure miracle caster

>>166961705
Same engine made it really, really easy.
Big creative block on Miyazaki's part.
A lack of want to continue Dark Souls.

If Friede didn't make all of this obvious, I have no idea what it'll take the average redditor up.

Now that the DLC has been out for a good while, what's the consensus on the parting flame? Good enough to function as a replacement or only good for pulling out to BF shitters?

>>166961129
>miyazaki ripped off miyazaki

holy shit

>>166962064
>>166961705

anyone having issues running Sotfs on win 10? Also, does it go on sale during steam events?

>>166962042
Melee pyros for parting, ranged pyros for regular. The weapon art is worthless. All it is is from handholding more newfags.

>>166962042

Literally only good for BF.

>>166962334
But pyros make terrible BFs.

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>>166962490
You take that back you fucking whore

Since we are talking about them, i have been wrecking shit between sl40-65 today with a +3 caithias chime, +6 ASS with deep protection, dark blade, and dhorys gnawing. Hexer builds are not shit at all in this game. Not as strong as pyros but definitely better than pure faith.

>>166948262
I am in the bell towers in dark souls 2 and I get invaded every 30 seconds by random people like "mai waifuuu"

wtf?

Who can help a brotha out on the final boss in Ds3. pc

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>>166962938

>>166962938
>turn off modem
>bellbois no invade
>problem solved

Help me DSG. I want to play through DS3 again for the new expansion but I'm bored of "refined infusion + R1 stick." What magic is actually fun?
I was excited for the Sacred Ritual Spear + miracles and sorcery but it looks so fucking ugly I just can't.

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>>166963102
Miracles.

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>Finishing Sirris' questline for the first time

I wish just one person I met could have a happy ending.

>>166963102

Golden sorceries have their moments, but you should ignore Farron shit, except for maybe flashsword.

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>>166962490
Reminder

>>166962630
>deep protection

Literally nothing the spell

>>166963371
it gives 5% absorption, 5% damage, 7 stamina per second, and +10% aux buildup.

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lads how the fuck do I make a low SL pyro?
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/140778
looking at some of the discussion in the thread I've made an attempt, but I'm faced with the problem of having literally only 1 or 2 spells and also lmaonovig

>>166961715
>pure bro fist-bump

>>166963518
I have a really solid lvl80 pyro build if you consider that low level

>>166963450
All of them but the stamina get nerfed in PvP

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Just got the prepare to die edition, do i need to install the fixes in the sticky or is that just if im having problems? same for mods

>>166963682
I'm looking to go much lower, keep/catacombs and irithyll kinda area. Like I said after looking at the thread 44 seems a good SL for low areas. I do have a 100 pyro, I'm just not very good at working with very low level restrictions.

>>166963926
the fixes are mandatory

>>166963518
you're a retard. never make builds again.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/140781

>>166963816
Not so sure about that m8, i have done alot of pvp with it lately and there is a noticeable difference. With a good amount of vig + dark blade it helps you out tank the other guy.

>>166963926
I'd install PvP watchdog and DSCM if you plan on actually making use of any online features. You can also install DSFix for 60fps if you want it.

can anyone in ds2 help me with gargoyles? pc

>>166964019
>>166964060
Okay, thanks.

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>>166964025
Thanks. What about sage ring for the cast speed? I'm not really a numbers man but I remember that being an appreciable difference.

>>166963926
Get dsfix, good for modifications

>>166964060
lol don't make DS1 60 FPS, it ain't designed for it. You can fall through the map and fuck your jumps.

>>166964231
>i want to be SL125 but at SL40 what the fuck why cant i

>>166964248
I've never had a single problem with falling through the map or falling through the ground via ladders, I always just remembered not to slide all the way to the ground just incase. You're right about the jumps though. Thankfully you can just set a hotkey to toggle between 30 and 60 fps though, for the rare occasion you'll need to make a jump that 60 fucks with.

>>166962938
you are in a pvp area anon

you can join the covenant at the beginning of the bell tower and do it yourself!

>Rose of Ariandel
>C in Strength
>B in Faith

Is it a decent weapon for Strength/Faith builds?

Quick:

How can we fix Hexes and give it a proper niche in DaS3?

Can someone run down Covenants for me? Warrior of Sunlight seems best for me, since I like helping other dudes because Golden People are always fucking amazing

>>166964780
You can switch between all freely.

>>166964287
i think his point is that if you're 2shotting nerds with chaos vestiges anyways it may be better to swap the castspeed ring in instead of the swamp ring

>>166964651
add a hexer's hood that increases the damage of dark magic by 25% or add a catalyst that can cast dark pyros, dark miracles, and dark sorceries

>>166964814
Sweet, thanks

>>166964780
3?
Way of Blue: get help if an invader comes in to bootyblast you
Blue Sentinels: be the help for WoB plebs
Darkmoon Blades: also be the help for WoB plebs
Rosaria's Fingers: nothing special, get tongues from killing hosts and blue cops
Watchdogs of Farron: automatic area invasion cov
Aldritch failful: a different areas automatic area invasion cov
Mound Makers: invade but be a mad cunt, may not have to actually kill the host to "win"
Warriors of sunlight: be summoned but yellow, get medals for helping shitters

>>166964645
It could have a fantastic unique moveset

but then from realized it was a strength weapon and said nope
only generic movesets are allowed for str

>>166965091
I should mention invading as a red will affect a quest. It'll make an NPC hate you and block you from access to the cat ring, but doing that also gives you access to the proper bow gesture. If you want both you have to complete the game twice on one character.

>>166963518
>https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/140778
>saint's ring
Literally why? You could use the priestess ring then drop 5 faith and go up 4 att for the same number of slots and additional FP for one less SL. Even the darkmoon ring shouldn't be used unless you've already got 4 or 5 attunement slots.

>>166964231
Toss swamp for sage on that build anon gave you, non-nuke spells aren't good without cast speed and your nukes will do enough damage without swamp.

You also need 15 str for parting flame if you want to use black flame to its potential.

Consider leveling attunement at the cost of some other stats so you can toss darkmoon, you'll want the fp anyway.

He has the right spells equipped though

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Holy shit it's so fun invading these host kiddies with like 2 phantoms in irythill. They outnumber me 3 to 1 but are too pussy to run up through the silver knights.

>>166965135
>>166965279
Thanks anons

>>166965135
you can also white soapstone as a mound-maker and help or attack with friendly fire

but no one does that outside of the starter areas when the game goes on sale. I miss hosts realizing their friendly crazy was actually potentially dangerous.
>when they realize they can lock onto you and start panicking

jesus christ why does the white hair talisman have to suck so much? crystal chime has a better weaponart and scaling, aint fair.

So do two simple items + 10 stack? I think I read somewhere that to have stacking simple you need a +10 and a +9. Can anyone confirm/deny?

>>166965439
Its so pointless. They should've at least made their sign white. It would balance the inifite summoning just a tin bit.

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>>166965439
I swear if FROM doesn't make purple signs white and inconspicuous, I'm going to uninstall this shitty game. There is literally no fucking point in doing half the things they let you do and after BB you would think they would have learned their lesson and up their covenant game. No can do, out of gas for the Dark Souls creativity engine.

>>166966045
That's some Phosphorescent Pole tier shit right there senpai.

In scholar, is there a way to farm souls to get my soul level up? I feel so weak. I just want to farm souls, I am level 70ish and im around the poison area. But I feel like im a shit sorcerer and I feel if I get a super high soul level I can actually do damage and not die instantly

>>166966063
>>166966069
I just want normal mound-maker invasions to allow me to attack mobs. I've been enjoying the boss invade bug for that reason. Its been a lot of fun, and if you do help and the host gets himself killed you still get rewarded.

>a mad man joined the party

>>166966069
>inconveniencing the host in DaS3
pffft

>>166966195
Just use all of your bonfire ascetics to endlessly reset the nearest boss.

>>166966045
the wiki seems to imply that a 2-handed simple weapon gives more than double the fp regeneration
so idk why you'd want to dual wield when you could just do that

>>166966257
>>166966069
>madmen now stay in the host realm and dont go away even if a boss fight occurs
>madmen can enter boss zone but cannot attack the boss
>only expelled if boss dies

>>166966532
Wait what the fuck. This is the first I'm healing of it.

>>166966195
which poison area

remember the game is pretty nonlinear
there are 4 primal bonfires or whatever they're called, so unless you've already lit 3 you can go to another branch and progress there instead for a bit

>>166963518
This is how you make a highwall pyro

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/140789

though obviously a DSA twink can get the job done quicker

>>166966532
Anecdotal testing of it doesn't have a noticable difference. The fuck's that about?

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>>166966563
I just want to be friends with everyone with the potential to kill. Friendly fire co-op is best co-op.

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>rushed 4 bosses and Orbeck's gone now
>it's ng++
>didn't get his ring and gesture yet

It's tough to be stupid.

>>166966757
well someone put wrong info in the wikidot i guess

>>166966895
How do you not have that stuff already in NG++? Because stupid?

I AM PISSED THERE IS NO BOOK MIRACLE CASTING TOOL I NEED MY HOLY BOOK DAMN IT

>>166966949
Too much effort for a different hold animation I guess.