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Cute Dragons

>What's new?
Valeera and ching chong new year event out (FREECOCK)
https://youtu.be/fWY6RbiNgVk [Embed]
>Latest In Development Video
https://youtu.be/XUhMCNzcUb0 [Embed]
>Year in Review
https://youtu.be/sYIpkktbm68 [Embed]
>Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20483091/weekly-sale-jan-24-31-2017-1-24-2017

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Current Tier List
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist

>Where do I find you cock riders?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20506312/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-jan-27-2017-heroes-of-the-stars-1-26-2017
>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20506310/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-update-january-27-2017-1-27-2017
>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE [Embed]

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki
There's also a leddit page but we don't talk about that

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>Every 5-stack in QM has a Medivh and Support guaranteed

Pussy ass faggots.
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THE HERO WE NEED
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give rexxar build
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i got 9k matchmaking points
ama
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How do i find groups for Event?
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>166897074
No one even looks at those fucking links, the latest indev linked has been wrong for a week now.
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>play brightwing
>can't eat and torture my victims

What a missed chance...
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Stukov confirmed edition.
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>>166897464
>tfw just realized that God-King Skovald is literally fel-Stukov
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Why is there next to no r/34 of femtoss?
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̶V̶e̶n̶g̶e̶a̶n̶c̶e̶ more talents for Zul'Jin!
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>>166897464
what can this guy even do
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>>166897464
The thing that always bothered me about that design is how the infestation grows OVER his clothes.
His UED uniform.
The thing he was wearing over 4 years ago, when he got infested.
That dude would stink like shit.
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>>166897524
this is what blizzard does
they "corrupt/zergfy" the leftmost part of the bodies and call it a day
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>>166898012
>muh corruption

Wonder how long until Jaina is the next raid boss, or Sylvanas.

>>166897975
Cancer up lanes with minions, probably.
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reminder that playing quick match is asking for bad games.
at least play unranked if you are too pussy for hero league.
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>>166898195
Dear god no
Last thing I want is salty fucks of unranked
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Are you guys ready for Blizzard to overbuff Valeera into cancer territory soon? My group is currently finding a solid amount of use for her already, play her like an invis CC bot with some moderate damage potential instead of a 100-0 stealth assassin, and it works pretty damn well, especially against autoattackers when you grab the blind on cheap shot and then the reduced vanish cd.
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>>166898195
>wasting tens of minutes on picking
kys
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>>166898408
>wasting 20 minutes on a lost match because of le ebin matchmaking
kys^2
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>>166898376
Please no. I'm fairly sure she's perfectly viable. Why should she be mini-Illidan AND mini-Zeratul AND have CC at once with no detriments at all?
It's still a teamgame. She doesn't need to be able to gank like a motherfucker and race Immortals against multiple people and decimate shrines, fuck that.

I'm ok with some number adjusting, but fuck buffing her in a substantial way.
Not if they're gonna leave Tass as this mess. Not until they make Uther fucking viable again.
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>>166898668
>30 minutes wasted is better than 20
:^)
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>>166898195
>QM is asking for bad games
>Unranked is asking for bitter cunts who think it's HL
>Ranked is asking for idiots that don't fucking know how to draft, ban, or play the heroes they'picking (Everything "top tier")

It doesn't fucking matter what you play, it's shit everywhere. Play what makes the most sense to you, for you, whatever reason that may be.
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>>166898376
>cc bot
>set up kills
Sounds more like a rogue than I could've hoped.

>>166898195
'Knew a fellow who was too scared to try Ranked. Help him set up a second account to ease him into it. Turns out it wasn't so scary. I think he was worried about messing up placements, or something.


>>166899007
Yeah, just play whatever, honestly.
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>Rework Li Li
>She becomes much worse
>Rework Zagara
>She becomes much worse after additional changes
>Rework Tassadar
>He becomes much worse
>Rework Uther
>????
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>>166899342
>rework gazlowe
>???
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>>166899342
when did they rework lili?
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>>166898668
but matchmaking is shit either way??????
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>>166899485
who?
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>>166899342
>>Rework Tassadar
>>He becomes much worse

when will this meme end :thinking:
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>>166899687
>Bronzies
>Capable of ;thinking;

in what way is tassadar good now?
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>>166899687
What talent build do you go on him?
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>caught dropping from Diamond-Masters to Bronze
>https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/5qrsrb/probably_throwing_demoted_from_diamond_3_to/
Yikes.

>>166899342
They managed 30% with Medivh, perhaps they'll shoot for 20% with Uther?

>Li Li rework
Eh?
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Is Valeera one of the most variable heroes out there right now in terms or talent builds?
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>>166899941
I don't know what a term build is.
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>>166899969
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>>166899929
>>>/reddit/
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>>166899969
*OF talent builds
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>>166899941
No. People building memes like
>Your mobility is now has no range but does some damage
Are retarded
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valeera garrote build ever viable?
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>>166899847
1. Globes
4. Depends on your team setup
7. Acuity
10. Walls, or Archon if you need damage (archon stacks up real well with Khala's Embrace on 4)
13. Adun
16. Mostly double psi storm, lower armor if they have a heavy frontline that you know you will get value out of
20. Archon upgrade or Battery (really strong if you have an AA comp)
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>>166900417
>10 minutes in
>still don't have 20 globes
I really, really, really wish teams would actually help you get globes instead of killing wizard minion first or completely ignoring globe
Also taking archon upgrade is basically the reason you take archon. Only take the other talents when you take wall.
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HURRY

WHATS GOOD AND WHATS MASSIVE SHIT
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I don't fucking understand why they got rid of Misha's Mend Pet talents. How fucking stupid is that shit.
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>>166901140
Anon, do you have stroke ?
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>>166901153
idk why did they reduce him from 10,000 to 4,000
he seemed like one of those heroes that'd be 10k forever, like abathur or tlv (maybe zera?)
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>>166901241
HEARTATTACK

PLEASE

I NEED TO KNOW
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>>166897130
THE WARRIOR WE DESERVE
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I just got into this game. Why is tavern brawl so terrible, it's just a normal map. They could do so much weird shit with that mode, and they just restrict heroes and they're done? I mean, I know it changes weekly.

Amateurs made so many fun UMS in fucking sc1, not even mentioning warcraft3, paid pros can't cook up something off the wall?
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>>166902095
this week's brawl is probably the worst yet, some of them were pretty fun
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>>166897464
You thought your lane was safe but it wasn't.
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Lothar when?
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>>166902678
Never ever.
They have enough literally whos.
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>>166902718

>character with history and significance in their respective franchise
>literal who

stop tossing that term around
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>>166902678
fuck I can't wait for them to release the second volume of Warcraft Chronicles in March, finally we'll see some new official art of the old alliance
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>>166902678
Finally a good skin for Varian
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>>166902773
He's not exactly Garrosh, Kazakus, or even Patches, so I doubt he's that important that people would recognize him.
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>>166903004
>people are still this mad about valeera
reminder that edwin vancleef wasn't even a rogue canonically and his daughter is on the same page as valeera for being a literal who, they chose valeera because she's slightly more popular thanks to hearthstone
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>Have to be the one that mercs
>Have to be the one to clear lanes
>Have to be the one tell people when to back out
>Have to be the one to tell people to not be alone lategame, when they're all missing from the map

I fucking hate this playerbase.
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>>166903150

I'm mostly annoyed because she definitely wasn't something we needed right now. She's also more dumb waifubait for retards to obsess over.
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>>166903150
While I am sure people are mad, I did think Valeera was appropriate. Let's be honest here and recognize most of the hardcore WoW fanboys are still very much into WoW to the exclusion of other games, including HotS. You then look at Hearthstone, where the vast majority of Hearthstone players don't play computer games, and the ones that do happen to be the same demographics that you see playing shit like LoL.
As a result, it only makes financial sense that the focus is more on heroes with associations with Hearthstone because that is the crowd who are going to dump money into your f2p game.

I only know Lothar from the WoW:TCG
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>tfw you're the only autist who cares anymore
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>>166903854
kek at least you can even do it by yourself after the hotfix
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>>166903854
Varian obviously tried to help
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>>166903963
But he's TOO SLOW

The only reason I have won literally every race is because somehow the other team cares even less.
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Quick, I have to Tychus against Diablo, Jo, Rhegar Ming and Jimmy

which talentS?
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>>166904156
The ones that modify his run and gun, his miningun, his grenade, and that ultimate that does a lot of damage.
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I don't believe them when they say there are no mirror match rules. It is not a coincidence that I start playing something, and immediately see it on the other team when I otherwise never do.
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so besides that image of finding the whore valeera, where the infested terran are, is there another leak that show that stukov is the next heroe?
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>>166904503
they basically said in a blog post that the next hero won't be from warcraft or an assassin so that's another thing
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>>166904553
it can be from diablo, ow or even blizzard classics( ok that one no but my point stand)
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How to deal with valeera as alarak?
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WHEN DO WE GET THE GREATEST PROTOSS?
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>>166905254
use your W to reveak her and poke , heck the Q also reveal her
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>>166905412
Aight thanks
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>>166905385
As a Dragoon or as a Zealot
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>>166905385
We already have Tassadizzle.
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what Diablo character do you guys think blizzard would bring due to the 20th anniversary? *plz no more warcraft heroes*
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>>166906092
isn't the anniversary already over though
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>>166906092
Probably fucking Deckard Cain, even though he shouldn't be a hero. He should stay as an announcer/map objective. There's nothing to him that makes him deserving of a slot on the roster, he's a vast source of knowledge, not any sort of mage or anything.
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>>166906092
Gheed
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>>166906092
stukov
millhouse manastorm
maiev
tomator
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>>166906092
Diablos Brothers because WHY THE FUCK NOT??
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Guys how is plat league?
after 4 weeks I am finally about to leave gold and would like to know when people start to follow the good strats.
also what is the optimal way to play mines right now as in lane split, team comp, camp timing etc. ?
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>>166906092
The Cow King Baine Bloodhoof
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>>166906092
Wirt
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daily remember that if you don't play any of these heroes you are missing the fun part and turning into a salty cancer load day by day

>abathur
>murky
>erikolafmetzen
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>That thread on Valeera "concerns" on the subreddit
>Look at his list of complaints
>No ranged poke
>No sustain
>No reliable/easy to use escape to get out after initiating

GEE, SOUNDS FAMILIAR.
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>>166907756
#freeGreymane
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>>166907756
Oh, she's ability damage butcher!
No wonder she's fucking shite XDDDD

God I hate reddit. How about you let your tank initiate and use stealth for CC during the fight/to disengage? Bloody amateurs.
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>>166907901
But Greymane does have good poke?
Human form isn't the problem, it's just that his half of the kit, while solid, is still only half of a good hero, and the Worgen form's kit is shit.
Well, shit's a bit strong, but he needs better numbers or some QoL stuff on him baseline.
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>>166908036
>Well, shit's a bit strong, but he needs better numbers or some QoL stuff on him baseline.
or just add back the "cocktail always breaks" talent that was taken away for no reason in the first place
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>>166907756
so she should be good at everything according to him?
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>>166908103
That's stupid, because the talent is so good you'd never not take it, invalidating EVERY other talent on that tier, while also missing what cocktail is supposed to be: hit frontline, damage backline. If it always explodes, it's just an AoE snipe and caster Greymane goes against his design.
What you should be asking is, why is his cocktail damage talent not on level one?
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>>166908516
>because the talent is so good you'd never not take it, invalidating EVERY other talent on that tier,
just an excuse Blizzard uses to nerf balanced heroes while pretending they're improving the game
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>>166907929
>>166908151
He was saying she needs at least one of those.
He compared her to Butcher first, but mentioned that butcher is actually threatening when he catches you off guard, while Valeera just forces you to use an escape or CC her then kill her.
Which is why he suggests that she should either get the stealth Q is ranged by default, some kind of self-sustain (or improved smoke bomb), or a proper escape.
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>>166908516
make it baseline????
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>>166909114
Why bother ever hitting someone with the flask then?
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>>166909556
BONUS
DAMAGE
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>>166909556
yeah why
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>>166908814
Little damage on the target, big damage on everything behind it.
If it always explodes, you don't ever want to hit with the flask because you're LOSING OUT on damage.

Which is shit design, because it goes against the entire point of not being a good frontline poke, but damaging assholes in the backline.

I hate to see this word used, but Christ, you shitters feel e n t i t l e d to extra damage for missing your skillshot, what the hell is wrong with you? Work more on your positioning!
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hey can anyone here help me get the recruit a friend mount?
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>>166910112
>people genuinely believe that Blizzard employees don't work here
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>>166910293
>being right makes you a blizzard employee
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>>166910293
I wish I got paid money for telling people they're morons, but alas, the world isn't that pink.

The problem isn't the flask. It's the worgen and I really fucking hope they're gonna make it worth it to actually jump into the fray with him. His lack of sustain or any form of damage mitigation (mostly because of shit talents for his worgen form) is the biggest offender, but they could fix it by just giving him MORE DAMAGE. He already offers nothing but pure undiluted high sustained damage, but it's just not worth it when other heroes can offer the same in addition to CC.

>>166910497
I appreciate the help, but don't make it seem like I'm samefagging here, please.
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>>166910293
I forgot the specific examples but a lot of shit /owg/ says about balance would be implemented in patches.
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>>166910637
it wasn't my intention sorry :^)
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>>166910497
>>166910637
>don't believe your lying eyes
fuck off Dustin
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>>166910909
I'm Enrico and he's Joffrey though.
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>>166910112
why do you think you get to decide what the "point" of an ability is?
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>>166911032
I don't, but Blizzard does, and has said the exact same shit I did when they nerfed it.
Now stop crying you little baby, and learn which parts of a hero actually are shit and which aren't, maybe I'll take you seriously after that.
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>>166910637
>The problem isn't the flask. It's the worgen
before the flask got nerfed it was easier for him to skirmish people down to where the worgen was effective
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>>166911032
blizzard decides the point of a skill when they design it:

Gilnean Cocktail (Q)
-Incendiary Elixir (Talent) has been redesigned as a Quest Talent that reads as follows:
Every time you damage an enemy Hero with the splash damage from Gilnean Cocktail, increase the impact damage by 2 and the splash damage by 6 (stacks up to 20 times). Once you’ve hit 20 Heroes, also reduce Gilnean Cocktail’s cooldown by 2 seconds.

Developer Comments: The idea behind Gilnean Cocktail is that it can do a lot of damage, but the downside is that the primary target takes a lot less. It’s designed to be a poking tool to kill the backline. The old version of Incendiary Elixir completely blew out that concept, and instead made the ability a simple area of effect nuke that wasn’t special anymore. We’ve replaced it with this new Incendiary Elixir that rewards players who can show mastery of this skill shot’s unique aspects, while preserving the skill cap of the ability.
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>>166911345
>blizzard decides the point of a skill when they design it:
judging by that they actually decided the "point" of the skill much later when they realized it was effective at countering mages
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>>166911226
They also nerfed his worgen form a bunch in addition to that. You can assign it to cocktail all you want, but I don't think giving him more poke will make his frontlining any better. Give him better survivability tools as worgen, or just massively up his damage.
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this website is pretty neat btw
https://heroespatchnotes.com/
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>>166911173
if the point were reliable long-range area damage instead of that fantasy scenario where your targets align perfectly maybe it would be a useful ability and wolfman wouldn't be basically trash
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>>166910718
>redditors copy /owg/ posts
>something /owg/ talked about gets changed
>guys blizzard really watches /owg/ threads
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>>166911435
They decided it from the very beginning and it's obvious in the way the ability works.

What they did fuck up was not realizing that people don't want skillful abilities, they want reliable ones, and thus always picked the explosion talent.
Blizzard hates putting in work that goes to waste, and aptly removes the talent that goes against the design they thought up.

Blizz isn't some saint that never fucks up, they evidently did, but saying they changed their mind about how an ability should work when it's VERY clear they didn't is fucking stupid.
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>>166911647
Go shill your shit ad filled site somewhere else
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>>166911672
>there's tank in front and a valla/ming/whatever behind him
>there's anyone standing in/behind a minion wave
>wow, I must be dreaming, fucking fantasy scenarios shouldn't have drunk so much XD
Go fuck yourself.
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>>166911783
I'm gonna shill it here and you are gonna like it cuckoo
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>>166911889
Cuckoos are the ones cucking cuckolds into raising their eggs, bruvluv.
You messed up big time here.
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>>166911981
m-merely pretending
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>>166911889
>>166911981
Is that why it's called that? I never made that connection before.
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>>166911647
Nice, I don't play this game often and sometimes might take a break from it for a couple months and the last time I looked at the wiki for something like this it wasn't always up to date
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>>166911835
well gee mister robot sorry you weren't programmed to detect hyperbole

i'm sure that even with your godlike positioning and pixel perfect skillshot aiming you've noticed yourself hitting people with that stuff much less than before
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>picking valeera in HL league
please dont.
she is a qm hero who gets shit the moment a decent warrior is in the game.
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>>166912525
even in qm match she's performing horribly

she's just trash
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>>166912456
I'm still hitting stuff in the situations it's supposed to work in, yes. Less outside of those, who would have thought. Never said it wasn't a nerf, only that it was intended by design from the beginning.

I don't play the wolfman that much anymore, because he's not up to par. But I don't think the cocktail is at fault for that.
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Does anyone here have that current leak that mentioned Baal, Belial, Maeiv, Garrosh and others?
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>>166912674
so some shitstain at blizzard figured he had to nerf dogdude despite his well-balanced position because people weren't playing him as he wanted them to

tell me why you're fine and dandy with this
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>>166912780
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>>166912674
>>166913386
you're advocating for a buff so clearly you aren't fine with this
i got you nigga
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>>166913560
>Vashj
>Varimathras
>Baal
>Belial

How many months do we have to wait.
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>>166913560
Thank you, anon.

>Belial
>Baal
>Maeiv
>Garrosh
>Gromm
>Imperius
>Deathwing
w
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>>166913560
>NO FENIX
Yeah no Blizz, it's not like he's one of the MAIN CHARACTERS from one of your MOST SUCCESFUL GAMES
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>>166914632
he's too similar to Leoric :^)
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>>166914632
Which Starcraft 2 are you talking about?
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>>166913560
newer leak revealed lucio, junkshit and someone else i forgot being very far in development
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>>166914827
didn't someone say that Reinhardt was in development and will come out in 3 months time in a past thread? (don't really believe it but i hope it is true)
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>yfw hots eventually turns from heroes of the warcraft to heroes of the overwatch
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>>166898008
>That dude would stink like shit.
I'm sure zerg in general stink like shit anyway
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>>166897264

Get over it senpai.

The links are there so people who scroll past will look at them and say "heeey, that's a lot of links", maybe click some and then maybe try out the game, or for noobs who need guidance. Also some OPs don't take the effort of changing or fixing the links because these threads aren't all posted by the same guy.
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>>166899536

Like a year ago.
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>>166915620
>mfw OW heroes will be implemented in the future
The only exception is Reinhardt.
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>>166914827

Only tripcoded Axototl leaks have been correct. Don't believe anons.
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>>166914827
blizz here

youre mom is the next hero
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>>166917204
The blizzcon leak was an anon
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>play qm
>neither team has a tank or healer
wtf blizzard?
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>>166917973
>play qm
>one team has two healers
>the other has tassadar and tyrande
hello?
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>>166917973

>play qm
>our team has murky, their team has tychus

?????????
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>>166917973
>play qm
>no supports to be seen
>there's 3 stealth heroes in the enemy team
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>>166918831
are you complaining about a free win?
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>>166917973
>play qm
>we have 3 spec while enemy team has none
huh?
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>>166918750
>tassadar
>you can new reach 180k healing with him
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>>166919594
Apparently, it's a bug; all tass' healing numbers are doubled ont he score screen
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>>166919594
Tassadar's healing is known to be bugged to display double the amount.
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>>166919594
>stat screen shows double than what he's actually shielded
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Is there a /vg/ group, do you guys play together?
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>>166919684
>>166919698
>>166919723
they fixed it 2 days ago
>Tassadar: Fixed an issue causing damage absorbed by Plasma Shield to display as double on the tab/score screen.
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>>166920064
>Blizzard
>Fix
:^)
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>>166919995
literally read the OP
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>>166919995

no because everyone in this thread is plat and they pretend they are GM #2
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>Johanna high estimated wait time
>ETC high estimated wait time
>Diablo not
>Arthas not

why
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>>166921086
>Arthas
I like him too but let's not say people are pining to pay him.
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Heroes of the Storm Ranked play is pulling out all the stops and introducing a horde of new features, improvements, and rewards. With division tiers, seasons, high rank recognition, and end-of-season rewards, we think you’ll love what’s in store for ranked Heroes of the Storm.

After I questioned his Gall ban, he then banned Johanna who was my hover pick, then he hovered Abathur.
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>>166922771

le troledd :^)))
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>>166922771
That's some pathetic damage control. I feel bad for the loser.
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>Hey guys lets just charge up top.
>No way this won't work.

EU plays.
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>10k gold
>don't know what hero to get
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>>166923791
By Fire be Purged.
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>>166914827
sauce?
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>>166915620
I hate Overshit so much. That goddamn normalfag fest is cancer to its core.
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>>166925115
>he says, playing ASSFAGGOTS
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>>166925115
Idk im kinda happy for blizzard because its so populair but I will never see my self playing it and I want Tracer out of Hots
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>>166925845
Yeah, I'd want that dyke out of the game too.
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>>166922771

>https://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=2174907
>3k games as Abathur

So, this is the true power of autism...
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saving up to buy my bro Zul'jin, what am I in for?
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>>166926245
Really fun hero. Watching Chu playing ZJ is amazing.
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>>166926245

Pain
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>>166926245
Make way for da bad guy
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>>166926335
>>166926350
>>166927624
>4,7k gold to go
fuck
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>>166927624
>>166928027
this is a really good before and after picture
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>>166927624
TAAAAAAAAAAAZZZ
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>>166927624
Zul'jin go where Zul'jin go.
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>>166928092
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wonder what interaction he will have with Zarya.
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>>166929268
Probably uniting against the protoss/omnic threat, since she just hates robots and doesn't seem to give a toss about anything else.
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>>166928092
I got you
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Is Valeera gud in ranked?
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>>166931221
Maybe, if you're good. Seems like she would excel at setting up ganks early, which does sort of rely on teammates.

>can't really pve
>tricky team fighting
>fits better into "pick" comps

I could be horribly wrong, though. There's definitely an ideal comp in which she's able to set up kills with early game and snowball the game off that. Thinking back to (old?) Kerrigan, although I don't know if Valeera falls off quite as hard.
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>>166931221
team up with a glass cannon and yes

dont pick 1v1 fights unless they're <50% health

dont randomly stealth around afking like you would in pubs. people WILL see you and knock you out

her damage past her stun is really really weak, so be careful to not be over-confident
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Valeera nerf when?
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>Murky nerfs, apparently
>E now causes camps to leash/regen
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>>166932123
Good.
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>>166926335
got any cool videos showcasing zul'jins power?
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>>166932123
Looking forward to that rework yet?
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>>166932123
Serves him right, he's imba as fuck.
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>>166932625
t. bronze mmr QM player
>>
>friend is master league, less then 50% winrate
>really, really bad
>constantly dying chasing kills that were nowhere close to possible
>screams and yells at his team in QM
>lose 100% (actually, not exaggerated) of games I play with him by a landslide
>~60% winrate when I play alone
>silver league mmr

the fuck?
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>>166933361
He is factually better than you.
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>>166933361
1: He gets carried by other people he queues with.
2: You are the problem
3: He bought his account
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>>166933582
>2: You are the problem
this meme is my least favorite
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>>166933361
Being in Masters doesn't necessarily mean you're good, but not being in it definitely means you're bad.

>50% win rate
Not entirely uncommon. He could've just gotten Masters off a lucky streak then stopped.

>muh 60% win rate
Keep playing and climbing, then?

>we lose all the games we play together
Could be you here, honestly. Might be getting paired up against plat-diamond+ players. Dunno, though.
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>>166934238
I'm GM in SC2 and I was Diamond in LoL

It's not me. Check your condescending bullyfag tone at the door
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>>166933361
Your rank means literally nothing. The rating system is completely fucked outside of full 5 man teams playing TL and never changing their players
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>>166934401
And you're...Silver in hots QM?

Just going with what you offered. Might've easily been boosted, bought the account or whatever. Again, Masters in Hots isn't good. D5 0lp is more of an accomplishment.
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>>166934401
>I'm GM in SC2 and I was Diamond in LoL

Well keep playing those games because you're shit in hots.
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>>166934645
Which is weird, honestly. League sort of requires all that Hots does and more.

>>166934401
Also; Silver in QM. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding and it's your Masters friend that's down there. Dunno. Also Diamond in Legolegens is easily at least Masters in Hots.
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CORE NEEDS INCREASED HEALTH
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>install game after more than a year
>open my rewards from preseason cause toptier mmr
>doing some qm-s
>100% lose ratio against valeera and theres 1 in every single game
>go into ranked
>get matched with high diamond people because mmr from before season 1
>get blamed for outdated builds

i just wanted to enjoy the game again
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>that illidan backdoor
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>>166935049
>dude comeback mechanics lmao
>inhibitors don't respawn

hotsbabs?
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>>166899342
He cant get any worse
There will be no fans left to cry over his useless mangled body
Only people who are glad he is dead fully now, since he can spam Flash of Light
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>>166935119
It would have been awesome if it was an actual race, but once the other team started to fall it just felt sad. Altought that pressure might have been why they fucked up
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>>166934487
Apparently it means something to people who only post here when they have a chance to call someone bad. Amazing how many GM players are here in hotsg
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>>166936093
It means something when you're a silver player
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>>166936381
you honestly aren't worth communicating with. think about that.
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>>166936525
But you're doing it.
>>
Anyone figured out a way to get past this fucking hots logs adblock shit?
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>give you opponents the dream team draft
>lose
Surely they won't know how to play against our niche Greymane pick!
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>>166933361
>friend is in master league, more then 50% winrate
>really really good
>I am only 34 and havent even touched ranked yet
>reckless but fun playstyle
>change heroes every odd match while he sticks with 1
>always feel like he silently judges me everytime we play together and when I make a move
>still keeps inviting me for games tho

what do?
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Great Polymorph or Critterize? What pick in what situation?
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>>166897074
brightwing is a good healer but i can't deal with his friendly donald duck voice
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>>166938565
mute the game
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>>166938958
i just don't pick it
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>>166938565

Doesn't her monkey skin have an altered voice?
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wait I missed out on the AMANI FUCKING WARBEAR?!?!?!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>166939771
Yeah, it's how they handle mounts. More $ sales.

>added to shop in bundle
>remove it after hero discounted
>added back at later, unspecified(?) time

>>166937891
I'd probably go with the duration unless your teammates have been on-point with the focus fire.
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I just saw that carbot for heroes of the dorm, does this mean we are getting sports skins?

Hockey Arthas
Linebacker Butcher
Quarterback Tyrande
Cheerleader Kerrigan
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>>166940074
>more Arthas, Kerrigan and Tyrande skins

pls no
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>>166940074
Need space empress Tyrande skin
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>>166940203
I'd wager Kerrigan is a shoe-in because she's got the splash art ready.

Now they just need to buff her.
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>>166937363
>still keeps inviting me for games tho
play with him and get better
ask for advice maybe
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>that silenced player on your team who keeps on pinging
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Does the stun part of Diablo's shadow charge and Auriel's detainment strike work with Tassadar's force wall?
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>>166941286
Detainment strike works no idea about shadow charge.
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Valeera is making QM really miserable. Our valeera is literally hanging around doing nothing because she thinks she needs the perfect opportunity to strike.

Their valeera murders and disappears immediately, jucking any stuns and revealing abilities.
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>mfw seeing all the mounts that are in HotS
Why wouldn't they put them in the store? Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>166943093
To be fair most of the times the other Valeera have a better team to thrive.
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>>166943217

They rotate them out every week.
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>>166943217

Because they probably sell more by rotating them around.
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I non-ironically pick Rain of Destruction as Gul'dan
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>>166943304
>>166943335
>every week
I haven't seen any rotations whatsoever in this month.
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>>166943424

It rotated like yesterday actually. Lunar tiger up.
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>>166943410
me too. This ult is fucking good to push or defend. It actually deal a lot of damages to structures while scaring people. And if it lands two times on a hero he loose a lot of life.
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>>166933361
you honestly probably dont even understand what makes someone good or not good at this game if youre in silver
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>>166943843
you know what scares them more?

horrify
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>>166923791
Save 20k for a golden cock.
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>it's unironically faster to queue as assassin than healer for quickmeme

Did somebody say ded gaem?
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>>166944220
>scare them a few seconds
>they come back

vs

>ult
>they see they are taking damages
>they back and don't come
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>Machines of War trailer makes Kerrigan's Ultralisk look huge
>ingame it's the size of a zergling
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>>166944345
The golden cock is 10k?
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>>166943410
#ButcherFic2017
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>>166944521

>blizzard convinced that ultralisk is in a good place
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>>166944559
You get my point, if you don't want to spend money on a hero, just grind one you already have access to, and save for meme mounts.
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Who do you think should win this and why.
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>>166944872

It should've been the omega nidus from that cinematic in her fight with narud, it burrows up under her and carrys her to the location and slams down.

Having an ultralisk as a "ultimate" is a joke.
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>>166945107
Left. Tass and Medivh keeping Sonya alive while red has nodamage
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>>166945107

I'm gonna say right. zarya is a serious damage cockblock and the varian on left is probably too retarded to take up the anti shield build.
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>>166943248
I don't get why this seems to happen always.
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>>166945107
Whichever has the better nova.
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Come on, forced fifty. Any day now.
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>>166945372
Play Ragnaros.
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>>166945372

Ever think about picking a character and sticking with it? Maining a character can let you carry real hard especially in QM
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>>166944872

>6 months ago
>"we are aware of the issue with kerrigan's ultimates not having very much diversity, we are looking at ultralisk and want to make it more attractive"
>they buff the damage by like 20 and increase the CD
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>>166945107
gotta be left
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>>166897309
Wait til they start adding Deathwing and Ysera
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>>166945228
>>166945263
>>166945318
>>166945804
Yep, Sonya was the wrecking crew, both Novas were similarly decent and neither Varian went tank.
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>>166947559
At least your Varian went the smart DPS path.
>>
Think an infestor skin or similar might work for Nazeebo? Frogs to hunter banelings, spiders to broodlings, zombies to infested civilians.
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>>166945689
I could try that. I've never mained before. My only two level tens are Sonya and Chen and I've been playing since Butcher came out.

>>166945560
gg ez. Ended up finally finishing my win three games quest with Alarak and the enemy team deciding it didn't want to win any more.
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>>166947559

>Life seed
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>>166945787

I never understood this thing where blizz buffs one ult and nerfs the other one every time.

Do they not realize that you can't take both ultsAside from Alarak at the same time? If you buff one to not suck, it doesn't make the character any better overall, it just makes both ults viable.
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>>166947703
That would make him too similar visually to Stukov.
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>>166947671
Yeah, I was glad about that, Colossus Smash build can be deadly in the right hands and our Varian had his few shining moments.
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>>166947950
Might have to wait and see, but I imagine Stukov would be a little more upright. Nazeebo has a pretty distinctive posture and gait.

>>166947902
>dude more falstad and thrall ult changes forget about every other hero lmao

:[
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>tfw enemy core had 7% and valeera tried to leave via stealth instead of hitting building once and winning the game
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>>166948505
Valeeras seem to think they can't hit anything other than a hero for some reason.
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>>166948505
>assists only require you to be (sort of) on the same screen

Makes it difficult to tell how much an individual actually contributed, namely a Hero like Valeera.

>>166948606
Ye, melee Nova.
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>>166948606

Not so fast
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>>166948717
>when the braindead splitpushers try playing the kill-reliant heroes

she literally sat in a lane all game didn't she
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>>166948505
Wish these things told you which team actually won.
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>>166948673

Usually went

>Valeera opens up on something, fails
>Abathur clones her and cleans up or Tracer/Nova dashes in gets the last hit
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>>166948818

We lost
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>>166948082
Bitch I don't even play Falstad and Green Jesus
>>
>have highest everything
>have lowest deaths, highest kill participation
>entire team has 25+ deaths
>LUL JUST CURRY HURDUR XDDD
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>>166948919
I gathered from your post but sometimes I would like to see that without reading the post.
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>>166948981
Can't win 'em all. Do that every game and you'll win most of them, though.
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Thoughts about this idea of a paladin ?

>Paladin of Diablo 2
>Role : warrior / support

>General gameplay
The idea is to have a hero that can give bonuses to his allies via auras that will benefit everyone within the range
He will have enough life points and armor to be a warrior, and his kit will permit him to fulfill this role.


>Trait : auras
With 1, 2 and 3, select an aura that will be your trait. You can switch from an aura to another one any time during the game.
(auras can have different range)

>1- Prayer
Improve life regen of all allies within the range

>2- Defiance
Gain physical armor against the next enemy basic attack. It have 6 charges. The charges are shared between the heroes under the aura (so even if 6 charges seems a lot compared the the 2 people can have with a talent, they might be used quickly).

>3- Might
Every x seconds, improve the damages of the next basic attack. It have charges shared between all the hereos as Defiance.
>Abilities

>Q : smite
Your next attack will use your shield, causing the target to be stun 2 seconds

>W : charge
Charge where you want.
If you specify a target it will knockback her (+stun if collides with terrain ?) (Unlike diablo, you don't follow the target, you just push them away)
If you don't specify a target, you'll dash to the position (it can be a talent)

I think the cooldown and mana used should be different when you do not hit a target (lower cooldown, use more mana)


>E : Holy bolt
Summon a holy bolt that heal an ally or deal damages to an enemy. (amount to be determined)


>R1 : Fist of Heaven
A ligthning bolt from the sky hits the target. On impact, summon a few bolts dealing less damages.

>R2 : Zeal
Quickly attacks multiple adjacent enemies. (3 basic attacks)

ideas regarding how zeal can work :
make the player able to enable / disable it, each zeal attack using mana
make it a passive that improve a basic attack every X seconds or every X basic attack
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>>166949075
I should propably just instalocking Azmodan every game , too, but the hero is just too fun.

Plus we were playing on Cursed Hollow, so it should've been a freeroll, but apparently Arthas and Thrall players would rather die over and over again.
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is there a better feeling than being lastpick, spotting that the enemy is really light on reliable hard cc and just running a fucking train over them with illidan
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>>166949172
>Talents

>lvl 1
>Meditation
Replace prayer. Meditation improve the life regeneration and mana regeneration (it heal less than prayer)
>Salvation
Replace Defiance. Salvation reduce the spell damages. (charges with cd)
>Thorns
Replace might. Enemies take damages when causing mele attack. They receive x% of the damages dealt. (charges with cd)
>Holy paladin
Use holy bolt x time on your allies, x time on an enemy to complete the quest. Rewards : improve holy bolt range and power.
>Dragon
grants you the holy fire aura (permanently, on top of your trait), that deal x damages to nearby enemies (like burning rage)
>Lawbringer
grants you the aura sanctuary (permanently, on top of your trait), that knockback the enemies within the range every X seconds
>Doom
grants you the aura holy freeze (permanently, on top of your trait), slowing nearby enemies movements by 15% for 1 second. It triggers every X seconds (would need to be tested to find a good balance).

The idea is that both sanctuary and holy freeze trigger like the D2 auras did. Holy fire should do the same imo, but burning rage exist, so I'm not sure which would be better. Regarding stealth heroes, I think only sanctuary should apply to them.


>Redemption
Redeeem corps of minions and heroes for life and mana


>Lvl 20 tier talents
>R1 : Bolt of Heaven
Instead of a ligthning bolt, you summon a holy bolt dealing more damages.
On impact it creates holy bolts that deal damages to enemies and heal your allies (if they are hit by the bolt)
>R2 : Vampirebone
Increase the number of targets to 5. You basic attack heal you for x% of the damages dealt.
>Fanaticism
You get a 4th aura that improve the attack speed and the damages of basic attacks
>holy shield
Reduce damages received by 75% for 4 seconds.


Holy shield could be another talent, since in D2 it improved the smite damages, provided more block and defense
>>
So apparently I'm a blind idiot.

Can someone point out to me where these supposed infested marine eggs are in the where's valeera picture?
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>>166949205
Speaking of Azmo, I had a teammates die trying to 1v1 him twice and then I tried and also died. He was at super low mana, which was why I was confused. Does the laser not require mana over time?

Also, he seems to move as fast as normal movement, should you just not engage if you don't have a mobilitiy ability?
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>>166949303
>>166949172

>>>r/heroesofthestorm
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>>166949303
hmm I fucked up somewhere.
Only meditation, salvation, thorns and holy paladin are lvl 1 talents

dragon, lawbringer and doom should be another tier talent
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>>166948981
In my experience, sometimes it's just better to go with the team and give up the k/d ratio thing and the number chasing. If 3 of 5 go for the obvious throw, like goong for boss at the worst possible time, you already know whats coming, try to make a difference there, even if it might mean dying and ruining that perfect score, no one gives a shit about k/d and damage anyway. Does not mean you should die in vain tho.
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This draft mang
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>>166950050
>thighs
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>>166949376
imo that's bullshit and just some zagara creeps poping
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>>166950286
either its true and we get stukov or we get a support like Lucio who knows..
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>>166950286
There is a Zag tumor right above the eggs and they look different.
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>>166950286
>>166950956

It's an infested terran egg.
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>>166950286
>zagara creeps poping
Being blind must be hard
>>
>there are people in this game RIGHT NOW who think soaking is better than gathering coins and blocking trade in on Pirate Bay
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>>166951179
you need both
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>>166951179
It depends on the situation.
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>>166951179

If you are a talent tier down and you contest the turn in, you risk throwing. Sometimes soaking is the right thing to do.
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Skins you want?

Mariachi ETC
Mascot Dehaka (Barney parody)
Mortal Tyrael
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>>166951002
Aren't infested swarm eggs green though?
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>>166951901

Depends on what team color they get.
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>>166951847
>Mariachi ETC

I need this in my life.
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>>166951847

Mortal Tyrael would be cool, but won't happen since his wings are essential to his silhouette.
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>>166951847
>Mortal Tyrael

In b4 NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
>WANTING A NIGGER
>LOVING NIGGERS
>SOMEONE GOT BLACKED

lmaoooooooo my keks are already in orbit bros i cant wait for this epic shit teabeeaych m. night famalamadingdong
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>>166951954

What about in the campaign?
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>>166951847
Spectre Valeera
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>>166951847
Luchador El Diablo and Diableah

>>166952015
You might be able to swing it as a skin for Arthas. Has there been a skin that pastes another character over an existing one rather than just being a variant of the base?
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>>166950952
>stukov

I would actually cum everywhere if we got Stukov
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>>166952112

Orange or green, a couple of blues sometimes. I'm willing to bet that in HotS they will be blue or red depending on what team is looking at them.
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>>166951847
Beach Body Chen

Swim trunks, Sunglasses and a large Cooler with Beer instead of a Keg

You know the picture.
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>>166951847
kharazim stand
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>>166953292
And his staff is a beach umbrella.
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>>166940203
Arthas lacks a single good skin or tint.
How can you give one character so many skins and fuck up every time.
Crown Prince is the only passable one.
>>
So /hotsg/

What's your favorite skin and skin color variant?
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>>166952207
Amazon Nova.
Widowmaker Nova.
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>>166953964
perhaps it has something to do with hots arthas looking like a stocky dwarf manlet cosplaying the lich king
even frostmourne looks to be made of plastic

>>166953967
Master Lunara & Xul.

Pink Master Lunara/Tracer
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>>166953579
is this a JoJo reference?
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>>166953967
Master Rexxar, standard tint.
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>>166953967
Master Valeera second tint.
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>>166953967
>standard Leo
>master Sonya
>Iron Butcher
>>
Can I still buy the Year Long Stimpack?
>>
>>166954689

Only around blizzcon usually
>>
I'm totally thinking of making an XCOM2 Voicepack Mod with E.T.C.
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>>166953967
white master Abathur
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>>166954878
Only him?
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>>166953579
star platinum kharazim would be sick with tints that changes his colour to the worlds/crazy diamond.
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>>166951847
Reverse Sgt. Hammer. A tiny siege tank riding on a giant Hammer
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>>166955016
Maybe others. Right now I just see his lines to be quite fitting and quite humorous.

I've seen someone do Tychus, Jim and Nova.
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>3 man team league game

felt a lil bad for them
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>>166955853

Did Rexxar and Malf just AFK?
>>
>Leoric laning all game on BHB, didn't even take globe talents, I don't even know what ult he took because I never saw him use one
>0 stuns on team except my Cheapshot every 8 seconds
>Butcher/Valeera/Nova roaming all game because nothing to stop them
>Abameme takes Monstrosity and sits behind open gates to get deleted
What do I do to deserve this?
>>
>>166953967
tyrael master second or third color
nova amazon first color
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>>166955853
>team league
How can you end with such a shitty comp ?
>>
>>166955853
>team league

are they still trying to get that mess to work
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>>166956231
You think that's bad?

I had an Arthas on CH as our only tank who refused to go to any of the tributes.
When we lost tribute and asked why he was just laming the entire time he said "not my fault you lost obj"

30 fucking minutes of him ignoring all the objectives.
>>
>>166951847
stitches wearing the old English police hat and uniform
with billy club and a literal long arm of the law as his hook.
>>
>>166953967
Master Tyrael. White tint. That halo screams justice.
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>>166956535
I had an Arthas who decided to fuck off and clear a wave instead of stalling the tribute 1v1 against a Zul'jin until a teammate could catch up so the enemy team couldn't get curse and swing the game.

He actually ragequit when we unanimously called him a fucking retard.
>>
>>166953967
Tyrande master skin first color
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>>166957568
>okay whatever falling a little behind but we fine
>dude on our team literally walks around, behind and into the enemy team
>all four of us ask what the fuck he was thinking at the same time
>fuck this toxic community im afk
>clears waves and avoids all conflict for the rest of the game

I know it's shit to queue into a 5-stack outside of ranked but good grief sometimes it's nice to play with actual humans
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>Varian on the other team takes Twin Blades.
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>>166957930
>enemy team is winning
>your Varian thinks that that Varian is going to super good Varian build and copies him
>>
What generic game unit do you most want to see get a HotS character?
>>
>>166957930
>>166958336
Last time I used Varian I taunted a charging Varian on the other team and he stunned my friend then charged straight to me.

>>166958431
Orc raider or that gyrocopter hero they showed during blizzcon 2013 or 2014.
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Can you not micro the Storm, Earth, and Fire pandas seperately or am I getting fucked by Try Mode?
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Question, can I play Diablo 3, get to level 70 in this season and get Malthael's mount?
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>>166958431

Infestor.
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>>166958431
Lurker.
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>>166958538
No you can't micro them like the Vikings.

>>166958656
You need Reaper of Souls but yes, I think you can still get it.
>>
>>166958431

Spirit Walker
Druid of the Claw
Firebat
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>>166958431
A basic worker unit.
Every basic worker unit.
As one hero.
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>>166958676
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>>166958431
Ghoul. One of my fucking FAVORITES.

Man, Undead was my shit back in the day. I remember I was so fucking stoked to have Anub'arak repping the Crypt Lord, couldn't wait for him to come out. Then he ended up getting messed with a bunch and has been nearly useless for so long. Thank god they're starting to show him a bit of attention now.

DREADLORD AND GHOUL WHEN!?
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>>166959682
>DREADLORD WHEN!?
We already have Jaina.
>>
>>166958431
SCV, Fragile base builder, can lay down various flavors of turrets, sensor towers and bunkers, his ult lets him drop a planetary fortress or calls in a swarm of fellow SCVs to either work even faster or just bumrush the enemy
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>5-stacking in QM

The sign of a pussy.
>>
>>166961827
>bitching about qm

The sign of a loser.
>>
>>166961827
>bitching about 'm-muh stax!1!"
Sign of a faggot.
>>
i missed the first few minutes

why were gilly and dread losing their shit?
>>
>>166962176
Chogall charge with q to roots and die.
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>>166958431
Firebat
Goblin Shredder
Spellbreaker
Troll Batrider
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>>166961827
I 5-stack with pubs all the time for the exp bonus and 99% of the time, they're retards. After we get our asses handed to us because the stack of ebin Zul'Jin-Varian-Valeera-Zeratul-Novas don't know how to play, they disband pretty much immediately after the game (if they don't ragequit beforehand). Unless it was a bunch of faggots with shiny silver portraits, stacking in HotS isn't the sign of a tryhard.
>>
>>166950286
What's that thing next to Gul'dan and Cho'gall?
>>
>>166962176
Cho'Gall was dying fast, got saved, q'd back into all 5 of the enemy team and into a root and got blown up.
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>>166958952
>You need Reaper of Souls but yes, I think you can still get it.
Oh, fine by me. Thank you, anon.
>>
>>166963293
I'd quick level you but I've barely played this season. They've done so little to change things.
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>>166963530
It's all good, anon. I'm going to do it by myself. I like Diablo, but such a shame that's kinda discontinued.
>>
>>166963245
You mean Azguldan?
>>
Is there ever a good time to go missle build as Li-Ming?
>>
>>166964442

Yes. If you consistently land all of the missiles then it's a ton of burst on a low CD.
>>
I love Coccoon. I hate having to go Locust Swarm.
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Stukov teaser and in development video this week

Screencap this
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>>166965727
Stop jinxing it.
>>
>>166965727
>Everyone's faces when it's C'Thun.
>NO MORE WARCRAFT ASSASSNS
>So have a Warcraft Specialist
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>>166965727
It is kind of weird the only announced one new hero this time around. Usually they do two at a time. Maybe that last slot really will be the last hero ever released.
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>>166966164

They've been announcing one at a time for like 6 months, the only exception being Varian and Ragnaros and Gul'dan and Medihv.

Gul'dan and Medihv were actually supposed to launch to promote the movie, but development time didn't quite line up, and Varian and Rag were at Blizzcon.
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>>166965727
>it's a cute oc infestor instead

:3c
>>
>>166966370
>Samuro was in development for 2 years

Fucking crazy.
>>
>>166966370
They announced Alarak and Zarya at the same time but that was because of Machines of War.
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>>166966450

Zul'jin too
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>>166966420
Worst timeline.
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>>166966450
>>166966474

Corki when
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>>166966450

It's crazy, some really fucking basic heroes like Samuro and Zul'jin got put on the back burner, but some heroes have like 4 month development times TOTAL like Zarya, Valeera, and Auriel are fairly complicated in their kits. It wonder what it would be like to be working at Blizzard and someone sitting at a meeting brings up a interesting kit and a fire it set in the office, next thing you know it's released in a few months, whereas Zul'jin became a running joke around the Blizzard headquarters because he just couldn't make it to release for all that time.

>pic related; see fridge
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>>166967017
>, but some heroes have like 4 month development times TOTAL like Zarya, Valeera, and Auriel

Really? Valeera is literally a copy pasted rogue from wow, one would think she will be easy to develop in hots.
>>
>>166967017
>>166967117
I think they have ADHD at the HotS team, they honestly forget more basic characters and get bored with them
>>
>>166967117

And Zul'jin's kit is "THROW AXE"

For whatever reason, some kits just fit right in, and others regardless of simplicity, have issues functioning or performing.
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>>166967203
Sam Wise did say they have HUGE technical issues with Samuro.
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>>166967017

>pony picture in background

uninstalled
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>group of 4 in qm
>cho'gall, auriel, and medivh
>against a bunch of soloqueues

and people will argue that stacks should remain allowed in qm
>>
>>166967017

I wonder if Axototl was right and there's a backlog of heroes near completion just in the queued release schedule that we don't even know about yet.

Gives me hope for the future of this game to be honest family
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>>166968149

QM is a fun mode, get over it.
>>
>chu playing azmo

I should git gud with him.
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>pick chen
>someone else picks li li
>they light rp all game and constantly call me uncle
>get a friend request from them
Kill me.
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>>166968675
cute :)
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>>166968294
Well actually, they're all fun modes, because it's a game. However the game is competitive in nature, just because of the genre it is. So to allow people to organize and plan their comp against a bunch of people who don't have that luxury, that's a little questionable. I do completely agree 4-5 stacks should only play against other 4-5 stacks, or have to play Unranked or TL (For the 5-stacks of course).

Simply trying to degrade things into "well its just a fuck around mode lmao its for fun its just a game cmon bro" is shitty, and allowing a fundamental part of the gemre to be ignored/circumvented. Overwatch did the best treatment for this which was to split Quick Play up into QP with only one of each hero and a mode that is directly stated to be for fucking around. Obviously HotS can't do the same sort of mode split because it doesn't have enough players, but there are other courses of action they could take.
>>
>spot enemy team doing boss
>direct allies to kill them and take boss
>it's on an open lane to core
>should be game
>boss decides to fuck off inside their base and start smacking on the next lanes keep
Th-thanks Blizzard.
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>>166968149
>tfw you're on the 4 man queue team
>totally stomp the other team
>still don't have any fun because it's hard to get your foot in to do anything with a coordinated 4man deathball running around the map doing everything for you
stacks aren't fun for either team
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>>166969391
>Overwatch did the best treatment for this which was to split Quick Play up into QP with only one of each hero and a mode that is directly stated to be for fucking around.
Which is a bad thing.

Quick-Play is still "people fucking around with Hanzo picks", all it did was split up the non-competitive playerbase into two/three queues because the brawls only have "Quick-Play but not Quick-Play" and "EVERYBODY IS THE SAME xDDDD".

Blizzard handled that shit in Overwatch in the worst possible way.

There was zero fucking reason to split up Quick-Play or impose the one-hero-each rule on it when comp already existed. It doesn't fucking matter what you pick below Diamond, everybody's fucking around with Genji and Sombra and Hanzo and Widowmaker picks in either mode at that level anyway.

Game was about constantly counter-picking shit on the fly.
Blizzard fucked it up by imposing the rule instead of balancing their dumb game, and all the rule did was further contribute to the three-tank meta being a thing.
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>QM
>rehgar, sylvanas, stitches, nova and uther
>vs
>nova, valeera, varian, li-li and muradin
I love being fucked in the ass by QM sometimes.
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Thoughts?
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>>166974208
13 take the reduced portal cooldown and it is always up and at lvl 16 take Reabsorption.
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>>166906092
it'll be either Malthael, Deckard Cain, or Aidan.
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>>166974208
Pro memers take leyline.
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>ywn be this dedicated
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>>166966370
Medivh was announced with Chromie, you autist.

Ragnaros and Varian.

Zarya and Alarak.

Li-Ming and Xul.
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>>166974885
I think he means that Gul'dan was shown at the end of Medivh's trailer.
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>>166974573
As Master Medivh, can confirm, leyline is so much more satisfying.
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Blizzard what the fuck am I suppose to do here? Imagine if this was on that immortals map.
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>>166975505
protect the FUCK out of ming
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>>166975505
>Gets a workable team comp
>Still complains
Fuck off
>>
>>166975852
>Uther
>Anub'arak
>workable
Yeah maybe during beta days.
>>
>pick tracer for QM
>up against a 5 man with point and click stuns
>tell malfurion to pocket me
>stack up fully on takedown quest
>carry team and win
>>
>>166976058
>Super tanky front line
>Long ranged extremely high damage squishy assassin
>3 supports
hmmmm.....u rly make me think

>Literal gold player complaining about team comps as if he understands the game
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>>166976573
God, why man...
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>>166976573

Who hurt you?
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>>166976573
See you for number 13.
>>
All Abathur brawl when?
>>
Ever lose against a siege comp?
>>
>>166978258
Only because I wasn't playing a pusher/mercer.
>>
Why are people so awful.

Just witnessed one single valeera outsmart my entire team, including my dumpster valeera, as they all ignored the objective trying to chase a full hp valeera. They never once knocked her out of stealth. She constantly re-opened on them and ran away. Meanwhile I'm standing here at the objective unable to do anything

WHY
ARE
PEOPLE
SO
FUCKING
BAD
>>
>>166978258
good ol suicide bomber xul

>enemy valeera's damage
what the
>>
>>166981469
Get terror
Punch faces in
>>
>queue Vs. AI to do daily rooster race
>2-3 minute queue
>eventually just put into an all bots game
>queued for co-op

d
e
d
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>>166981683
>murriclaps
We're all laughing at you here in bongistan.
>>
Will they ever make another meme hero like abathur, vikings, or murky again? Part of the reason I play hots is because it seems like they are willing to take more risks with hero creation than say, LoL.
>>
>Wipe four of them out but all our assassins have to hearth.
>Tank and Support rush core
>Die because they couldn't do shit to the core, and the enemy team ressed and fucked them up
>Rest of us try to defend, but ultimately can't defend OUR core from all 5 of them
>Lose what was once a one-sided and won game

Hahahaha. Kill me.
>>
>>166983013
>it seems like they are willing to take more risks with hero creation than say, LoL.
It's because they have nothing to lose since it was a dead game from the start.
>>
So Raynor is strictly AA now right? I remember penetrating round being a thing. What ult should I take on him?
>>
>>166983179
Hyperion.
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>>166983179
Raiders are pure garbage.

AA mostly. But a beefy Raynor can be pretty good.
>>
>>166983179
Essentially, yes. He only really has one build. Also only take Hyperion.

>>166983013
Hopefully not.

>>166983105
Ding, ding, ding. I'm sort of glad they did make an attempt to get Bolt of the Storm out of the game early, though.
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>>166983179
The one that does more damage when you press R.
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If there is one character you could completely remove from the game, who would it be?
>>
>>166983698
Illidan
>>
what's the difference between HOTS fanart and fanart from stuff like Warcraft, Diablo, etc?
>>
>>166983698

Nova, so I no longer get triple tap drooling retards who don't know how to participate on my team.
>>
>>166983698
Tracer and Samuro.

Honorable mentions to E.T.C and Nova.

>>166983954
Hots artists cannot into faces.
>>
>>166983698
Your favorite.
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>>166983954
>>166984009
>fanart

Whoops. Reading comprehension.
>>
>>166984009
Oh Samuro for sure. That fucking triple dude shit is obnoxious holy christ.
>>
>>166983698
tracer with medivh being a close second and chromie being a very distant third who if they removed the hearth talent I'd be ok with
its not even that its OP I just get retardedly mad at it if I dont have any stun
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>>166984128
>Valeera/Chromie duo
>Xul/Chromie duo

Feels kind of dirty, desu.

>>166984080
Mhm. I just can't beleive his kit made it into the game, even if his early game PvP numbers aren't the best, he isn't gankable.
>>
>>166984262
I'd probably get rid of Murky or ban him from quick play too to be quite honest. Nothing is less fun than an unkillable Murky being a gay piece of shit split pusher.
>>
This game is so fucking dumb. Get silenced just for telling shitters how shitty they are. MOBAs are such fucking hugboxes nowadays
>you suck
>reported!
>you have been silenced
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>>166984794
or you could grow up and act like a proper human been

or stick to being a raging shitter
>>
>>166985065
Saying something mean =/= being angry

When will faggots like you understand that
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>>166984794
>being this retarded

I'm having difficulty sympathizing.

>>166985138
>see silenced player, ever
>report them, make my contribution towards their next silence

:3!
>>
>>166985206
So when you watch Richard Pryor, you see an angry black man stomping around the stage throwing a fit?
>>
>>166985357
No, of course not.

I understand what you're trying to say, but it doesn't really matter how you choose to view your actions.
>>
>>166985538
>i'm not mad
>yes you are
>no, i'm not
>meh doesn't matter what you think, i'm still right
You have legitimately given me remorse for wasting time communicating with you. You aren't worth it
>>
>>166985632
Mission accomplished.
>>
>>166985632
Whatever you say, Silencedbro. I'll probably never know quite what it's like.

Because I'm not a raging idiot that calls others shit. :3!
>>
>>166985632
Uh, perhaps you missed the point. Your ban was entirely justifiable.

>call somebody shit
>somebody reports you
>get silenced

Being angry has nothing to do with it, seeing as that apparently went right over your head.
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>tfw missclick a talent
>>
>about to use an ability on hotbar (ie 1)
>press it right as talent bullshit pops up
>not only does the ability not activate but also chooses wrong talent
ebik
>>
>>166986223
Why do you press ctrl+1 to activate your 1?
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>>166986457
Bait.
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>My teammate bans the hero I'm hovering on
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>>166986895
>someone hovering over nova
>ban nova
>they then hover over valeera
>ban valeera
>they leave
:^)
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If they put the music nigger from OW in HOTS, I'm quitting.
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>>166987434
same desu
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>>166987434
I really hope they don't put that shit in.
>>
>These new Rexxar talents
>Neglect to give him and Misha anything for fucking spell damage
>The most prominent damage type in the game

Oh yeah, okay.
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>been playing since beta
>will probably never get a hero to level ten
>>
>>166987794
Do you literally play only one vs AI match ech month? How do you have so little if you played for at last 1,5 year?
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>Team picks Tracer, Nova, or Valeera
>Feed hard as fuck and complain

Delete anything that has low armor and hp

Retards can't play them but they can't resist the urge to play them because MUH SKILLCAP
>>
>>166985632
>You aren't worth it
reported
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>Rehgar with bloodlust
>Nobody revealing Valeera ever
>Stitches missing all hooks and eating 25% HP butcher all game
Placements were a mistake
>>
>>166983698
xul so we can have a proper necromancer.

I don't have anything against other heroes. Maybe ragnaros because of the lava wave but nowadays he seems fine.
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Which hero should I get?

Valeera, Ragnaros, Guldan, Mediv, Troll or Varian?
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>>166983032
the support couldn't heal his team mates while rushing the core ?

>ranked we got bw, tyrael, azmodan, sylvanas and li ming
>map is infernal shrines
>we get an immortal
>azmodan go to split push
>sylvanas do a camp


>later we start a team fight
>rip 3 of them
>I chase and get their kt (I'm tyrael)
>sylvanas follow me but don't silence the towers and fort to help me, she just look at me

>later we reach lvl 18
>4 death on their side
>we can rush the keep
>sylvanas doesn't follow and take a mercenary camp
>azmodan split push

>lvl 21
>shrine appear on the lane we cleared
>we go with sylvanas, bw and tyrael
>we take the keep
>azmo is dead
>ming don't follow and prefer doing the shrine
>we are forced to take the keep and back, letting the enemy rez

Since we were lvl 22 and got the punisher we managed to win, but you don't imagine how salty I was. This kind of game can be won in 13 minutes and yet you're spending 25 on them.
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>>166988708
valeera suck right now
ragnaros is okay but often banned

Gul dan is nice and strong, medivh and varian are okay if you're good
stealing boss and camps with medivh stasis is fun
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>>166987434
>>166987453
>>166987635

I hope he's next so i don't have to play with you three desu
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Haven't played the game in a month an a half, gimme the rundown on:

>Rag
>Zul'jin
>Ass Assassin Chick
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I just spent 10k on alarak cause I liked his spotlight.
He's pretty fun in QM tho. What are some good builds with him? I really don't want to give up muh sadism, so I usually don't take any, but the -6sec psychokinesis or what the fuck that is talent.

Also the charging ult seems like shit, gets interrupted erry time.
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Best hero to carry myself into Diamond / Master?

Was thinking Thrall, but I have no idea how to play him well.
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>>166990906
Thrall is BALANCED now so Thrall's no good.
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>>166990593
Rag is like thrall, good at everything. Zul'jin kind of sucks, but he isn't the worst. Valeera is melee Nova, so she's either 100% useless or fucking somehow kills half your team.
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>>166967017
>>166968192
yfw justin is axolotl
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>>166990906
there isnt a single hero that will carry you too diamond/master since you cant always pick what you want.

just git gud with the current meta heroes.
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>>166983698
People not saying malfurion are shitters
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>>166983698
Wait until they release Lucio and remove him.
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>tfw you carry that one shitter on the team and you know he'll do his best to fuck up other games as well
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>>166983943
You weren't prepared i see?
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Correct me if I am wrong but one of the major benefits of Medivh is his ability to get info to your team on enemy positions? Often late game while my team is doing camps or other shit I am just flying around keeping an eye on the enemy.
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>>166983698
Arthas, because he is the most useless tank in existence.

I have never been against a good arthas, he is the hero i have the highest winrate against.

I have never been grouped with a good arthas, i have the lowest winrate with him on my team.

I have the lowest winrate playing him.

He is LITERALLY the one hero that makes 0 sense to me:
- He is not hard to kill.
- He deals no damage.
- His root is laughably easy to dodge, and god forbid the hardest root to hit in-game.
- His ghoul heroic is some of the worst sustain in the game, and his sustain in general is almost non-existent. Any sustain assassin in the game can out-damage his sustain when he goes all out. Lets not talk about the bursty assassins.
- His other heroic is just bad, plain bad. Pick sylvanas instead.

The only thing i have ever seen arthas do is being good at being dead.
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>>166993413
forgot to add, he has NO STUNS and NO ESCAPES. Worst. Tank. Ever.
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>>166993413
>arthas
>picked as a tank
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>>166993581
replace tank with warrior or bruiser, the argument still stands, why would anyone ever pick arthas?

>deals no damage
>has no health and only bad sustain
>no stuns, just shitty root that never hits
>no escapes or mobility, W has little to no area of effect, even Valeera can land her Cheap Shot when W is active, comical.
>frost wyrm heroic is completely negated by sylvanas
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>mfw I just lost to a team with two specialist, no warrior and no support
How the fuck my team managed to lose like a team like that is fucking beyond me.
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>>166993189
Best guy for checking camps/bosses after Lunara and on par with Tyrande.
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>>166993759
>the lich king is this fucking bad
>medivh is a mediocre support

How stupidly underwhelming is Deathwing going to be?
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>>166993759
he wins solo lane against every melee in the game.
tempest makes him a great body blocker keeping heroes like thrall and rag away from his backline.
howling blast from the bush is a good gank enabler.
He is good on Infernal where you can park him on shrine while the rest of the team pushes lane and decent on Mines with it tight spaces where its nearly impossible to play around him.

But looking at your comment about Valeera, who is bad and doesn't see any play at all in the relevent HL tiers, you are either talking about low tier HL or QM which doesnt matter anyway.
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>>166994126

>>medivh is a mediocre support
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>>166994204
Winning solo lane in game is fucking useless at higher tiers of play. Everyone soaking at higher tiers of play does it under towers. Winning at solo laning is only good if the one you're laning against is retarded.

Tempest for body blocking? are you high? Arthas can only dream about the bodyblocking potential Diablo, Dehaka and ETC bring into the mix.

Howling blast as gank enabler?..... again.... are you fucking high? Nobody has time to wait around in a bush for arthas to whip out his useless root. Even if it was a good "gank enabler", then it still wouldn't justify picking arthas over superior "gank enabling" heroes.

I'd rather have a Dehaka or Sylvanas on shrines. Arthas is still useless in that regard, as there are heroes that bring better things to the fight, and can do just as good a job on shrines.

Looking at your weak points and weak knowledge about the mechanics of the game and the heroes that bring far more value to a fight that arthas ever will, i find it hard to believe you will crawl out of silver anytime soon.

Stay frosty based Arthas fanboi.
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>>166994517
Oh look at me I'm Medivh I can give everyone on my team a fixed re-usable blink, oh lala I made someone invincible and healed them negating a large portion of the opponents burst damage and keeping an ally in the fight, oh look at me just controlling the enemy with hard CC and shitting out lots of damage with my ridiculous cooldowns. Oh did you want to sneak up on us? Too bad I am invincible and can see everything.

Yeah, HE'S SHIT MATE.
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>tfw playing since beta
>tfw favourite heroes are Stitches, Uther, Arthas, Azmo
>tfw none of them are remotely playable
>tfw no idea what hero to pick up

I just want to stomp shitters with my 5,8k Dota 2 MMR, please help.

I recently bought Thrall but he's boring as fuck.
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>>166994656
>dehaka
>body blocking
I already knew your opinion is shit but this statement just revealed that you have no clue about how each tank/warrior plays.
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>>166987434

>nigger

He's a Brazilian
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>>166987082

>guy hovering abathur last pick also banning
>bans Gall
>Then bans your pick
>"r u mad m8y :^)))"
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>>166994943
Azmo tears bronze ass like there's no tomorrow and recently got buffed.

Arthas being a jobber is an injoke, he won't ever be good again.

Uther rework soon.

Stitches rework probably soon.
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>>166995016
I know it feels tough to get served, but there is no need to make it embarrassing for yourself.

Let me give you a few hints on why Dehaka is good for bodyblocking and then you can go educate yourself in try mode:
- pass through heroes/minions when W is active.
- drag
- increased movespeed
- burrow
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>>166995087
I just pick any marksman hero and afk lane listening to the relaxing sound of bings.
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>>166994943

Arthas is viable now. Like most heroes he has a niche, he's a counter draft if the enemy has a lot of front line and melee.
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>>166953967
Rexxar Raider, 3rd tint with bear ass tattoo, riding a red mechanospider
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>>166983698
Sylvanas because she's just not fun to play against
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>>166995286
>served
you wouldve served me if you mentioned Muradin who does everything Arthas does without dying.
You didnt and instead listed 3 of the 5 solo tanks in the game.
Dehaka can only bodyblock when his W is down.
Just so happens that his most popular build is focused around keeping W up all team fight to reduce armor.

I am growing tired of replying to you since you had no intention of doing a constructive discussion in the first place but since we got a lot of new players in here I had to call you out on your bullshit.
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>>166996427
>a lot of new players
We're dead as hell. There'snot "a lot" of players to be found here, much less new ones.
Don't use excuse to call people out on something, being a pendantic smartass is a given you cuck.
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>>166996557
if you ever looked at the vg channel ingame and inspected the players you would notice that most players are fairly new.
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Does anyone happen to have a screenshot of Raider Rexxar riding the Vulture mount? I was thinking of grabbing the skin while it was on sale and making a couple of smurfs for the mount.
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>>166996427
i mentioned 3 examples, i am not going to write you a 10 page report about every superior alternative for every shitty argument you come up with, just because it so happens that your favourite boyscout hero is bad.

However, you are correct, Muradin would have been the better comparison against Arthas on a whole, but not for bodyblocking in particular. Muradin is fairly small.
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>>166996626
They aren't new, they just aren't playing the game because it's dead as fuck and everyone playing it are legally retarded
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>>166992867
>plays broken character
>thinks he is the shit
lel m80
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>>166992867
>:P
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>>166997616
trying a little too hard
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>>166997428
Muradin is fantastic at bodyblocking if you take the shit ult.
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>win 3 games
>your teams are literal retards
Like clockwork
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>>166974208
shit
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When will the idiots stop playing this game?
I'm tired of dual wield varians
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>>166999089
Right after you uninstall m8 :^)
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>zagara dies 4 times in 3 minutes
>cries something about everyone being pussies
>ends the game with 10 deaths in 9 minutes 38 seconds
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Have they given up on pushing-oriented heroes, like all the early specialists?

seems like all they churn out now is assassin after assassin with the occasional tank and healer so the supportcucks don't cry.
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>>166999742
>almost one death per minute
I be impressed if I wasn't disgusted
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>>166999995
>Have they given up on pushing-oriented heroes, like all the early specialists?
No, we had Xul in August.

But specialists being specialists I don't expect many per year
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>>166999995

Stukov is probably going to be specialist.
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>>166999995
All currently planned new heroes are stealth based
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I'm new but have a lot of high-mmr moba experience in other games

Is Illidan an absurdly strong noob-stomper or is everyone I've played against just terrible
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>>167000176
More anti-noob mechanics are always welcome in my book.
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>>166958431
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>>167001063
Maggot Lair battleground when?
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>>167001063
fucking delete this
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FAST YOU FUCKING CUNTS.

WHAT COLOUR OF MASTER VALEERA SKIN IS THE BEST

1. RED
2. BLACK
3. GREEN
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>>166997616
this is only true if you are low mmr. In bronze league you have shitty players telling other shittier players how to play the game, instead of just playing the game. If one of your teammates is standing still in lane its not cause they went afk its because they are busy typing up an essay on the finer points of hero league
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>>167001876
Black because Bloodfang.
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>>166958431
Peon/Worker from Warcraft
Flame thrower unit from Starcraft
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>>167001876
Black.
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>>167001876
Red one is the shittiest but has the original colour of the daggers, Black for what this faggot said >>167001905

But the superior one is the Green because matches perfectly the gold of the armor.
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>>166994656
lol imagine being this guy.
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>>167002168
Perdition's Blade / Corehound Tooth > generic green "daggers"
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>>167002650
Not the same anon but could you explain further the difference?
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>>167002168
>But the superior one is the Green
Alliancefag spotted.
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>>167002837
Explain what?
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>>167001876
I want to FUCK Valeera!
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>>167000761
Yes to both.
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>>167002992
Why WoW fans have so much hate agains the green daggers but they love the black and green colour variations.
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>>167004009
The bloodfang skin has two well known and established daggers from WoW, Valeera's are generic literal who daggers.
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If you haven't completed the rooster quest yet, you obviously don't like the game and should quit wasting other peoples time by being in their teams and losing the games for them
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>>167003306
Valeera is only into orc dick though.
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>YOU STILL GET THE FULL LOSS MALUS WHEN YOU HAD LEAVERS
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>>167004506
Never knew Varian was an orc.
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>>167005684
Varian is a cucked orc slave, both him and Valeera was brutally gang raped by Rehgar and friends in the pit back in the day.
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>patch on EU client
What is it?
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>>167006240
Was going to ask it. Nothing on blizzard websites and nothing on the launcher.
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>>167006240
was the same nothing that happens 20 times a week for me.
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Rain of Destruction
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>>167009027
loses games
fuck horsepants meme builds
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>playing medivh with 4 randoms with a medivh on the other team in a 4 man party
>end of the game, we kicked the shit out of them
>ZA WARUDO enemy team on core right before we win
>mfw cheering infront of enemy medivh while he's frozen on the victory screen
>mfw I get MVP
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>>166998962
>no arcane brilliance or guardian of tirisfal

bruh
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In development video WHEN
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>>167012424
>arcane brilliance
is that even useful at 20?
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>>167013462

Free mana and AP boost to team. Its good if your team has mana. It also boosts healing from supports and shielding, which is good if your team has a support.
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>>167013075
Maybe in 2 weeks
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>>167013614
>Free mana
People have problems with mana still? I never even pay attention to my mana bar, it seems like it's just there so you don't spam abilities on minion waves
>AP boost
don't know how you can justify +10% attack power on a 60 sec cooldown when there's a 20 sec invisibility that gives you insane gank potential
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>>167014314

I mean, I just assume you aren't bronze league QM. Invis is fine there, but has no real impact at all in ranked play.

AP is ability power, so it makes all numerically dependant spells, healing, damage, etc. A little stronger. The mana can win some fights especially if there's a long spay at an objective or around the core.

Ult upgrades are both bad and Medihv Cheats is wiffed by even the post pro players, so I wouldn't consider it over any of the other options at 20.
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Got a 29% win/loss rate on Braxis Holdout.

my team is without fail absolteuly fucking brain damaged on this map.

It's like clockwork. They feed and ignore the objective, and they don't soak any exp. Or they do stupid troll picks.

Its only this map, every other map is fairly normal.

I can't be the only one,
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>>167015005
>Invis ... has no real impact at all
>getting the first move in a fight has no impact at all
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>>167015005
>Invis is fine there, but has no real impact at all in ranked play.

Team 8 won a game yesterday because Medivh used invis on diablo and he set a huge team gank.
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>>167015789
I like Braxis Holdout

Now Cursed Hallows, that is the map I hate
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>>167015981

Its just cloak, they can see you coming. Its not true invis, so you get the same effect just standing in a fucking bush. Its a meme ability that in practice is not that good objectively in high ranked play. Sorry, I was it was true invisibility too, it's just not.
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>>167016112

Must be good then, nevermind. One game won new meta confirmed.
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>>167016136
>they can see you coming.
so you're literally retarded then, ok
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>>167016136
post your hot dogs
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>>167016254
I'm glad you recognize your mistakes anon.
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Need some melee assassins. I noticed I have next to none except Kerrigan whos at 10. Who's fun?
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>>167016619
Butcher and Alarak
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>>167016619
Ragnaros,varian,thrall ect...
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>>167016129
Azmodan is an extremely strong pick on that map if you know how to use him.
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>>167017383
I rarely go specialist in and if I do it's going to be Gazlowe
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>>166897074

Dorks bitched and moaned like sissies 24/7 for "muh trollxxx!!11" and the fuck happened later? NOBODY CARES. Literally trash hero with no impact whatsoever in any meta.

So yeah, please, stop asking for more Warcraft trash. Valeera is literally the only thing worth it this past 6 months.
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>>167017867
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Johanna is in a really balanced position I think. I wish she had better punish talents though.
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Just found out we have a sandbox mode and so Ive been practicing dodging pyroblast, any other things I can practice?
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>last pick anub changes to nova at the last second

well that game was a waste of time
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>>167019316
>practicing dodging pyroblast
Feels great.
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>>167019316

Zeratul dodging, Shield Wall timing, Iron Skin timing to dodge nukes and CC, Kharazim timing to juke with dash, Samuro micro, vikings micro, etc.
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>>167019791
>take flash
>make it even better
>5 sec CD
>basic ability
>shit win rate until masters


hots players
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>>167019926

Mobility creep has loads of counterplay in this game, unlike League. Also hero power is fairly static and not a snowball to immortal like the farm/item shop type games.
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>they added a rogue hero
>it's Valeera
>not Kishkumen

Blunder of the century.
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>Azmodan is bad, especially on ToD
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>>167021065
>He thinks scoreboard numbers = hero is good
I don't have to look up your hotslogs to know you're bronze

Also who the fuck said Azmodan is bad on ToD?
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>>167020457
should have been this guy.

hope for a legendary skin though....
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>>167021065
>The other team has a Diablo, Chromie and Tyrande
>Azmodan still only died once
The other team is shit
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>>167022001
I wouldn't worry, he'll be the obligatory 'pirate' stereotype of the game.
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What is a good build for new tass?
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>>167021065
>Valla, Chromie, Elf Ass
How did they not hound you 24/7?
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>>167017867
I haet yu...I haet yu all!
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>>167022001
>Lapdogs, all of you!
>HUH
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>>167023127

W build with Archon, Khala's light, Twilight Archon
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Whenever I get promoted, I get maybe one two more wins until I just go into a massive fucking losing streak and get demoted again. It's been happening for two weeks now. idk what to do
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>>167023885
Play better
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>>166988708
Guldan
Medivh when you have someone to play with who isn't retarded
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Teach me how to land Alarak's combo.
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>when you get twice the enemy malf's healing as tyrande
i don't even feel like i did a great job i just wonder what the fuck their malfurion was doing
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>>167024428
Be good
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>>167024438

If he picked Lifeseed you know he's mentally disabled.
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>>167024428
Pull them to you with telekineses
Use discord strike
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>>167024428

Kerrigan's combo only backwards.
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>>167024538
>>167024561
>>167024630
It's rough. I can't count how many times I've done it fast and my cursor ends up behind me causing Discord to go the other direction. I need to slow the fuck down I guess. This is way harder to land consistently than Kerrigan's imo.

Back to quickmeme practice and pissing off team members.
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>>167024838
do you use quick cast?
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>>167024838
Mhm. Just go do is slowly in Try or Vs. AI until you're comfortable, then speed it up. No sense in just flinging it out their all jerky and missing every time.

Start slow, small and simple. Speed comes with time.
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>>167024897
No, I have it on release for Alarak.

>>167025362
Yeah, I figure that's the best approach.
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>>167025864
try the full-on "on" quick cast
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>>167026290
not him but for vector targeting abilities like alarak's W on release and normal quickcast are the same
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>blackhearts bay
>illidan farmed 19 coins
>tell team to secure him a turnin
>"nah lets wait till 10" (enemy team didnt have 10)
>illidan dies in babbys first invade at the bot giant camp
>game completely snowballs from there


I have never been more tilted by a single match in my entire life
How fucking stupid do have to be to not turn in as fast as possible on the snwoball map with a hero you picked entirely for farming turnins
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>>167027836
>invading
>solo
>19 coins

Yep. Had a Thrall do this in high Diamond.
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>>167027836
I have experienced worst
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>>167026547
not for the Q though
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>Buy 30 day stimpack
>Get silenced 3 hours later
>Q&A says I can't get a refund
>Write ticket asking for a permaban of my account so I stop wasting my time and money on this game
>"we cannot ban accounts like that :/"

Somebody end my miserable life
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>>167028903
faggot
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>targeted stuns
wtf was Blizz thinking?
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>>167027836
>blackhearts bay
>close game but we are slightly ahead the entire time
>got mid fort / keep whatever the fuck it's called down
>wipe entire enemy team by their giants merc camp
>me and tank ping core and head on our way over to end the game
>the other three back off and start clearing mercs, pinging turn-in
>enemy respawns and ends up wiping us because team decides to split randomly
>they go core and win because they aren't fucking retarded

i haven't played since then actually

still not sure if it's worth it
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>>167029172

Counter to mobility/stationary power creep?
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>enemy team gets stitches, thrall, greymane, varian
>"i know, i'll pick arthas cause /hotsg/ told me how good he was against a shitton of melees"
>get absolutely destroyed every teamfight

holy shit. didn't this hero get buffed with innate armor? felt like paper all match. even with iceborn fortitude, healing off all my ghouls, and malfurion desperately trying to keep me alive i was the enemy's team's bitch. is this hero actually good or was i memed?
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>>167029172

Game needs 'em for stuff like Illidan and Tracer.
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>get DOGSHIT fucking teams trying to "relax" with QM
>can only go a few brutal pubstomping losses before I rage
>get silenced
>faggots like this get to keep shitting up games
Honestly fuck this game, why do I waste a second of my only life playing this tripe. It isn't even fucking fun anymore. ONE PERSON decides he wants to play like dogshit and split push/dive forts for kills alone and you have to choke up a smile and act like you didn't want to win anyways.
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>Blackheart's Bay
>Neither team does anything completely retarded
>Neither team snowballs
>It's a close match where all 10 players preform well
>End up winning

What the fuck? It wasn't supposed to go like this.
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How would you make a Stealth Warrior work?
Hard Mode: No Sonya-esque bruisers.
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>>167029868
>no snowball on bhb
only possible if one team goes ahead and then does something retarded

or if both teams are retarded and play the map completely wrong
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>>167029717
>healing off all my ghouls
theres ur problem
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>>167029941
Dehaka

Well that was easy.
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>>167029941
Dehaka
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>>167029941

Has to have
>damage mitigation
>crowd control of some shape or form
>escape
>engage
>mobility (at least before engage or during disengage)

I could see something like a Shadopan deflection or isolation tank working.

Also in a way, Dehaka is a stealth/gank tank.
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>>167029941
>What is Dehaka
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>>167029987
explain. im shit at vidya
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>>167029965
or maybe
both teams played defensively and didnt fall for feints
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>>167030168
Sindragosa is a strong engage, and can stop melee from swarming a target
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>>167028903
Issue a chargeback and they'll ban you on the spot.
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>>167030173
see: playing the map wrong
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>>167029717
>didn't this hero get buffed with innate armor?
Don't see what that has to do against a lineup of mostly spell damage (e.g. Varian).
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12236336
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pls vote
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>>167020457
>not Ming
I bet you scrubs all have less than 2300 arena ranking
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>2017.
>Still no Stukov.
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>Playing Dehaka without the minion damage increase talent
Holy shit this is absolutely terrible
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>>167031897
Ming's a fag, always has been.
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>>167031897
>2300 arena ranking
>ranking
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>>167031971
>Still no Stukov.
2 more weeks till we find out.
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>>167031791
lmao these all sound like the names a faggot would use

Why not just save yourself the trouble and use XxXSephirothXxX
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>>167032387

Actually, we should have some idea of what's to come this week. Week following will be full reveal and spotlight, maybe even PTR, week following will be release.
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>finally get zul'jin
>he is even more fun to play then I expected
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>>167031791
Thank you anons. I got me Sacrilege as b.net tag.

>>167032887
Too late, anon... The train has left.
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Just getting back into the game since last season. How did the new ranks play out?

Finished both seasons as diamond 1, but I'm getting paired with a lot of plats in placements.
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I CLAIM THE 666th POST OF THIS THREAD FOR THE LORD OF TERROR
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>>167032926
Man that's how I felt about Medivh. I wanted him so bad just because of warcraft 3 but I was worried he was going to be unfun or awkward but I fucking love him.
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>>167032926
Zul'jin is magnitudes better than this thread gives him credit for imo. I think it's because people just use Taz'Dingo like morons and try and blow up the team with it instead of using it purely for survival.

Turns out "just hit R and run away" is pretty much all you need 9 times out of 10.
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When?
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>>167035901
I've noticed that as well, everyone is afraid of getting hit by a sub 40% hp zul'jin, they focus you and you just R away, regenerate and you're back in the fight moments later
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>>167035901
You have to be retarded to believe what people say here.
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>tfw its a good day
too bad for every good day there is also a horrible day because forced 50
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>>167035901
Troll's Blood + Forest Medicine is borderline broken in healer-less QMs
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>>167036273
After Stukov.
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>>167037134
>implying
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tfw no troll bf
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>Valeera tries to gank me.
>Laser her.
>She turns invisible it stays on her.
>She smoke clouds it stays on her.
>Without my fatass health they can't kill me in time.

Ignorant fool.
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>>167038674
Is the laser bugged? Vanish and smoke bomb should cancel it.
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>>167038767
I think it's because it's channeled and doesn't stop unless you leave it's range or stun Azmodan. It probably should stop, but it doesn't and is hilarious.
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>>167038767

Only Samuro and Zeratul can untether it.
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>>167038897
The think is vanish cancel other channeled skills like tass aa or novas triple tap.
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>Dumbfuck picks Valeera, because of course he does.
>Dumbfuck proceeds to assume that he can kills everything in a second without fail
>Dumbfuck 1v5s to death 5 times in a row, each time focusing diablo
>Dumbfuck is somehow shocked that we lost
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>>167039093
>find retard
>subtly provoke them into flaming
>report, request teammates do the same
>check back on them later
>silenced

It's a comfy sort of feel.
>>
>>167039093
>their valeera
>always goes for squishies and looks for 2/3v1 ganks
>opens up with stun
>doesn't use bladeflurry on heroes and actually does crazy damage
>annoyance and crazy damage all throughout the game
>>
>>167039058
It only stops it if you do it before she starts firing I think. Vanish isn't a cleanse.
>>
>>167039410
>doesn't use bladeflurry on heroes and actually does crazy damage

Isn't the bf damage higher than the ss damage?
>>
>check hotdogs
>40% win rate
>40% popularity

my sides

it's like post-nerf li-ming
>>
I have 10k gold to spare

Do I save it for a master skin or maybe the next hero,

Or do I do it?

Do I get the golden cock?
>>
>>167040352

cock
>>
>3 man with two people who are decent at the game
>for some reason get placed into plat while they get gold
>proceed to get shitstomped by 5 man groups with 3 masters
>90 point opponent favor

Good matchmaking.
>>
>>167040352

Master skins will always be there, whereas the mount may be gone forever.
Or just hold onto your gold for the next hero if aesthetics aren't your thing.

>>167040840
>team league

kek
>>
>>167040840
>And people believe HL and TL are leagues and leagues above QM or Unranked

It's a shitshow no matter where you go. This game will likely never have a very good matchmaking system, as long as the community is this A) Stupid, and B) Dead.
>>
>>167041707
HL is a lot better than QM, if only for having tanks and healers
>>
>>167041707
Eh, I think Ranked is better, if only because of the tank/healer, and people (generally) trying harder.
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>>167041854
>>167042163
You should play more Nazeebo. Late game damage, and Vile Infection vs no healer.
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>>167042268
Yeah, I know. If I'm going to play Unranked Draft or Quick Match it'll either be whatever is busted in support-less matches or in a full premade.

oof next hero when
>>
quick we need 54 shitposts before I go to bed so I can make a decent OP, let's do it team
>>
>>167043979
Okay.
Your favorite hero is good.
>>
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Anub'arak is performing a little better than we anticipated. We've decided to decrease his HP by 15% to bring him in line with similar heroes.

We hope you look forward to trying out the new Anub'arak in the Nexus!
>>
>when you as alarak and a bro as artanis eiffel tower the enemy team all game

that protoss domination feels good
>>
>>167044326
>Not bring along Zeratul and Tassadar.

Do you even Protoss?
>>
>>167044535

>tfw no Selendis

Soon my friend, soon.
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>tfw super Tyrande skin

I hope Blizzard man's up this year and releases some beach/summer fun skins. If they do, I'll creme.
>>
>>167044639
>Wanting selendis when we can have phasesmith Karax.
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>>167043979
>>
>>167044963

She's confirmed by Axototl and Karax is not :^)
>>
>>167045068
>only shows cause of death for a split second

Wish it was up there for everybody to see for a good 5-10 seconds for all to see.
>>
>Valla Q,Q,E build deals 2,5k+ damage to the immortal every Q at level 13, provided you completed the quest

Jesus Christ I was playing her all wrong
>>
>>167045535

Every build she has is good in the right circumstances. She's in a good spot.
>>
>>167045584
Yeah, but I was amazed by the damage this build does. And it's not bad in tfs either
>>
>>167031791
How do you change your battle tag?
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Need a new panda hero soon
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>Enemy team has 20 kills over us
>Get really fucking cocky
>We pick like 2 of them late game
>Push to core
>>
You know, I feel like I never see skins. So just how the fuck are they making money?
>>
>>167046661
White eyes and Aya blackpaw
I would love to see White eyes being a tank that summons a Storm Guardian.
Aya could summon jade soldiers as an old that slowly grow stronger as the game goes on
>>
>>167046661
The best panda hero would be Alexi Stukov.
>>
>>167046661
Ultimate skin for Karazhim where he's a Panda Monk its literal easy money
>>
>>167046780

I see plenty of skins. Some skins are so common I mistake them for being the default skin sometimes.
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>>167046661

Please.
>>
>Platinum HL
>BoE
>enemy team's only warrior is Varian
>the fucker goes Twin Blades of Bronze

And that's how you win easy 200 ranked points
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Mech Greymane when
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>>167047473

>most obvious mecha skin ever
>>
BIG
>>
GOLD
>>
MMR
>>
COCKS
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>>167047617
i need it
>>
>>167047694
>>167047786
>>167047890
i need it
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>>167047142
hi blizz
>>
>>167032906
I want to impregnate everything in that pic
>>
The year is 2017. Humans are living longer than ever. Technology has reached the realm of Artificial Intelligence and Virtual Reality. Yet common man still displays an astonishing inability to play video games at a respectable skill level. I will report more on this further at a different time.
>>
>>167048084
yeah those are really nice curtains
>>
>next hero releases on valentines day

Who gets the Valentine's Day skin this year? I hope it's Zagara.
>>
>>167041854
This. QM is essentially (Your pick), Rag, Nova, Valeera, 1 random fucker. Both teams. Every game. And before Val came out, it was Zeratul.
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>still no word on the "Loot" feature
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>>167048861
>giving a fuck about this game
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>>167048970
>Not giving a fuck about this game
>>
>>167048970
Yeah, actually. I've just been checking back in twice a week to clear out dailies.

>>167048284
As long as it's better than whatever that thing Morales got was.
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I hope Li Li gets a cute skin soon!
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>>167049447
>>167049447

EARLY NEW

I gotta sleep niggas fuck
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>>167049495
it's ok
bless your heart anon
>>
>>167029717
arthas only has one build which is death coil and sindragosa. also mana reduction on his e is also useful because u can leave it on for the full team fight without going oom. Sindragosa is objectivley better than army of fail.
>>
>>167049406
MoP had the best sounding cooking dishes.
>>
I just played against 5 bronze players and had 2 bronzes on my own team.

Definitely zero smurfs, they were all really obviously shitty players.

I'm just confused
>>
>>167053685
Forced 50 was either trying to make you lose or giving someone a free win
>>
>>167038897
Guldan's drain life works the same way, as does Falstads Lightning Strike. Bitches can't run away from targeted over time effects like that.

The latter is fucking hilarious against Samuro, by the way. Catch him out with Q, immediately hit him with W and then enjoy the tears as you kite the cunt while he can't do shit
>>
>>167057673
The difference is some skills, can be cleansed by Samuro's Q while Vanish isn't a cleanse at all. Besides pretty sure if Samuro just mans up on you with clones he'd kill Falstad before Falstad killed him.
>>
>>167058052
Yeah, that's why you have to knock him out of stealth with Q before he can open on you.
His movement speed is shitty if he can't ever hit you, and if you don't get hit, your 15/30% bonus movement speed and W will let you kite him forever, not to mention your E giving you a healthy safety bolster.

I still don't like playing against Samfam with Falstad, but it's one of the few where I think it's a fair fight. Same with Kael.
>>
bade game
>>
next teaser when???
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