/domg/ - Dominions general

Ermor thread

Can I please have 24 more hours for Kichikuo?
S-sorry...

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It's happening!

Can I have 24 hours more for Olathe? I have had the flu and could use a little more time.

Does anyone have the q.t. Caelum Watamote pic?

Lemurian thread.

Thread as dead as Community Clash

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Shout out to everyone in DSDS for 61 turns in 25 days

>>166880962
shout out to page 10 also

Ever lost a game because an opponent researched a critical spell and wipe your army? Won't happen in this game!

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/135

Very difficult research.

Maybe we'll have extra gold, gems, or resources. What do you think, /domg/?

>>166885209
very difficult research makes strong early game nations stronger; makes strong researchers with solid middle game options much stronger and makes strong researchers win by default if they hit late game research

very difficult research is a bad setting

2 more for RolePlayingIsFun

>>166885829
i really enjoyed the game I played with difficult research. It seemed to make the midgame last longer, and I find the midgame much more fun than late game.

>>166886854
So you say difficult would be better than very difficult? Very difficult is a little absurd, 200 to level 1. Someone mentioned a mount and blade mod, this is pretty close.

>>166887032
I don't know if difficult or very difficult would be better. I've never played very difficult. I'm just saying I enjoyed difficult.

Are there any guides out there on late game tech route priorities, power scaling and battle strategies?

I'm finishing up a couple games where I planned and executed strategies early into midgame pretty well but then got out scaled hard due to not having a end game plan such as utilizing gems on summoning big mages/or high hp blood summons in the 6/7+ tech trees.

>>166887934
No, because it depends SUPER hard. It's going to be different for every nation, and moreover your exact priorities will depend on what your opponents are using. For instance if you're up against golems, you need either magic phase moving water bottle carriers or actual thugs, whereas if you're up against living thug spamming you can use leech / LfL whereas if you're up against an opponent whose armies are a small core of cheap mages and heavy infantry you might want a thug with battlefield clear and on it goes.

>>166885829

t. buttblasted blood nation

>>166873920
what if you could use gems to speed up research?

>>166888670
blood is fine with v difficult research to be honest. Usually you want blood when you get your blood hunters and patrollers and such set up, and with very difficult research you can start going for blood right away and have an income by the time you hit your spells

So far the only very difficult research game also had 75% site frequency. It also was in MA, and involved banning lots of nations.

Would be interesting to see how a very difficult research game would handle without those added settings.

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>>166877227

How do you fix the summod Barbarian crash? Is there a missing sprite in my version of the mod? It's only a single-player game so I won't be delaying anything but I'd like to sort this before it comes up in multiplayer.

>>166890918
probably a missing sprite, yeh

>>166891005
Is this a known problem? Should I redownload summod?

>>166891052
>>166891005
>>166890918
Just realized I was running an old version of summod for some reason. Disregard my previous posts I suck cox.

>>166891052
It's the missing sprite that will immediately trigger a crash, since barbarians can appear on the overland map. Other missing sprites won't immediately cause the crash because they often tie to national summons and so on that you won't necessarily see.

>>166890456
Fuck you Caelum. This shit is all your fault.

>>166885209
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/135
Make it 300/300/300/75 for maximum fun.

>last thread archived at 500 posts

This is an omen of the end. We must find a way to master our own mortality or tragedy awaits us.

>>166893569
Three turns, fellow pretenders.

>>166893760
Some of you Pretenders are alright, dont come into the Blitz tomorrow

>>166893569

Maybe if we stopped having weeb images in OP we could actually stand out from the rest of /vg/ and give new players a quick impression what this game is about.

>>166894446
Yeah, I blame the weeb image in the last thread, too.

>>166895370

We're talking long-term player retention, and driving in new players. Some people will just spot the thread and get interested. If it has a random weeb image it will look like just any other shitty general with nothing interesting to bring.

>>166895730
Toss together an album of interesting images. If it's any good, we can include it in the OP.

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>>166895730
>>166896912
How about a qt trap?

>>166895730
a weeb image is interesting and is already bringing something to the table

take it easy anon

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>it's a weeb OP pic episode

>>166886750
I'd join if it had magic enhanced.

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:^)

>>166888776
You can already do that using F, A, and D

>>166904478
>posts second-least meaningful graph
>hides his own info to pretend someone else is stronger

>>166905134
What would be the most meaningful graph of them all, onipaisemfamlamchan?

>>166905190
Provinces > Income ~ Gem income of course.

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>>166905220
:^^)

>>166905316
>that xibolbo removal

>>166905316
>remove bats
>don't remove birds at the same time
Fucking noob games

>>166895730
We got new players thanks to the shadowverse vampire loli image.

Your argument is invalid.

Though in my opinion you'd have to be a huge failure of a person if you decide whether you want to play a game or not solely on the OP image of a general on some mongolian cave pictures in motion forum.

>>166905316
>hides his own info to pretend someone else is stronger
From what I'm seeing here, the real threat is china.

>>166905316
do research

Is Holy Vengeance (through Holy Avenger) as good as blood bless/damage reversal?

>>166905832
t. Caelum

>>166906031
yfw Caelum is pronounced seal-um

Which pretender goddess would you hug, /domg/?

>>166906031
Just someone who has seen diplomonsters at work far too many times.

If you want a gank on him, post your own stats too so people can tell you're not the actual threat.

>>166906226
great mother

>>166906246
china has done jack shit in all the match. if the expanding into anything was a bat provinces or two.

>>166906028
Haha no

>>166907409

It's not even worth casting is it?

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The High Elves were cute! CUTE!

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>>166907571
Welp. Only elves left now are the hillbilly wood elves.

In other news I have finally done something in this game and taken the fight to the rats. It was actually a rather short fight. The skaven cast some sort of unknown spell that hurt everyone and caused most of their own forces to rout.

>>166905316
>>166905564
Birds are arguably easier to play than Xibalba for noob players, so I would have attacked Caelum instead. You can see it in the graphs: Xibalba never had more provinces than anyone (bats aren't that easy to expand with when you are new)

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>>166896912

A suggestion

>>166905316
I assume birds are expanding into your lands

>Vanarus has all the seas to himself
Feels bad man.

>3rd player has goen AI for no fucking reason
I hate those kinds of games.

>>166909532
We are friends :^) I hope.
>>166908175
I was busy the whole match with berytos sieging two bat provinces that had 100219340 bats in them with +1 fort defence thing. A big amount of chinks were used.
>>166906000
t. ermor

>>166895730
>>166894446
When I came home and saw the previous thread was dead and nobody had done anything about it, I made a new one. If you'd rather be represented in the catalogue by epic Forester Bob meme images, by all means, start a thread with one and actually keep it alive.

>>166915409
By all means, we had hours without a thread. It's not a huge deal, your animu grill isn't even cute so it is sort of unique.

>literally minutes before submitting a re-scripted turn the turn resolves
>in new turn, my old script caused more than 50% of my troops to die and most of my communion masters
Motherfuck

At least I won the battle, Arco is down to less than 28 dudes stuck in his cap.

>>166915409
post link

Reminder to everyone that the wiki needs a fair amount of work on core content.

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>That feel when listening to high quality bitrate versions of classic songs while playing Dominions

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>>166916190
How the hell did you fuck up so badly?

>>166914512
>t. ermor
guess again

really post the full charts.

>>166916190
yo marv give me your steam handle

>>166919327
>playing dominions
>listening to anything else than prog rock and power metal

>>166920505

>Not appreciating the glory of Mozart as you lay your carefully crafted plans

baka senpai

Power/melodic metal gets a pass for being based though

>>166920609
>not playing bats/mictlan while blasting andean prog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oxvmNgBjTE

rev up those flutes boi

>>166920505
>>166920609

Post tracks then.

>The only song/ost you need for Marverni

https://youtu.be/UxdQ6xa8cjs?list=PLEQfgNWit-LceDdI7J2LXFuhqNcaZnciv

>>166920505
>>listening to anything else than prog rock and power metal
mah nigga
who /shadow gallery/ here

>>166919856
I was giftsing my own guys instead of casting blade wind which would have ruined their day but not really hurt my dudes
I also don't think my magic duelers worked?
But anyway yeah, my communions ran until they all died and my boar warriors carried the day because berserkers

I also think Arco cast an earthquake that killed more of his chaff than mine

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>>166920609
>Mozart
Entry level pleb pls go.

>>166916190
I'm curious what you would have done differently. I know what I would have.

And I still have mages. It'll take a long time to tease me out. I'm going to make this as painful as possible for you.

>>166921181
technically Orlanthi are more Samnite than anything

>>166921837
Blade wind would have done fuck all in that storm. The ones you did cast barely hit anything. Damn, I wish you had put that rescript in. I might have won.

>>166921837
>I also think Arco cast an earthquake that killed more of his chaff than mine
2 Earthquakes, and that's what killed a good chunk of your mages. My chaff was mostly irrelevant, your boar warriors would have chewed through them anyway.

>I also don't think my magic duelers worked?
The magic duelers actually killed two of my mages which hurt me pretty bad with how narrow the margins were.

>>166923479
Already plenty painful m8
My revised script was to actually let my troops do most of the heavy lifting, using blade winds to kill chaff and force a rout with my E2s while my E1s cast Earth Meld on the flanks to try and bog your chariots down, while my S2s just cascaded all day erry day.

Didn't know you had storm access, when I really should have.

So! Knowing what I know now, I'm going to be doing some changes to my general strategy actually. Round 2 is gonna be fun

>>166919327
that image makes me want to perform cunnilinguis

Also: I'm very disappointed in invulnerability. I should have kept Asterios back and given him equipment instead of sending him raiding. That was barely any protection at all.

>In a strong position
>Good research
>No bats, strong alliance with birbs
>Making money hand over fist, all thrones forted and secured.

Is this what it's like to be happy? It's been so long, I've forgotten the feeling.

>>166923853
Invulnerable 25 is the same as 25 prot against mundane damage, so it's no wonder I killed him right quick with mass axes, especially since there was no repelling.

>>166923853
inv, ethereal and mistform are all against mundane weapons. a lucky magic shot will fuck him up, and mistform and inv count as additional def and additional prot respectively

if you send one inv commander against a hundred chaff, he will get swarmed as every attack in the same turn hits harder

actually, most early buff magic is only really effective against chaff. magical attacks, physical and casted will fuck you up. it's why it's not recommended to have low hp thugs

>>166923827
>Already plenty painful m8
Good to know, I'll get my backstabbing knife ready.

>>166924773
Yeah I had originally planned to give him a robe of shadows and some other stuff that now sits useless in my lab because I couldn't get him to an unsieged lab province. I should have kept him in my cap instead of raiding. I got greedy.

>>166924892
Only person I'm not friends with who borders me is Hinnom, who I'm not exactly UNfriendly with
Until my god wakes up and finds out what he does with all those thralls

>>166919856
>only three stargazers
>almost turn 30
Are you even trying?

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>>166915537
>people getting booty blasted over animu grills on 4chan

I'll never get it. Especially since now we have an actual japanese admin.

>>166924773
>every attack in the same turn hits harder
This is not correct. They are more accurate (technically, you are worse at dodging), but they don't hit harder.

>>166925042
>trusting elves
Hell, I bet Nifl is looking at you hungrily too.

>>166925134
Speaking of, I can't be the only one to notice that he's fucking huge.

>>166925083
He had 8. 3 died.

>>166925117
It amounts to the same thing with how defence works though, right?

>>166925236
You're not but everyone ignored my pleas for a gangbang.

>>166925134
You're not even trying to work RP into diplo anymore.

>>166924996
I've had some success with a naked Monster in the Maze against low PD which is what I've been able to afford. Using those Raptors as raiders also would have been way more beneficial to you. Also also, using your fliers to attack rear on turn 1 would have been way more beneficial
>>166925083
Nah, I have lots more. I just had research goals I needed to hit ASAP.
>>166925134
>>166925236
Well from an RP standpoint, us and Niefel are bros, which is going to make the victory feast where I invite them and the Vanir after I beat Arco a bit awkward. As for size, I'm no bigger than Ur, Caelum or Hinnom, and my scouts haven't gotten as far as Yomi yet.

>>166925309
Ah, I read it wrong somehow. Still though
>single-digit stargazer numbers
>almost turn 30
It's not exactly a serious force by Marverni standards. Not even any boar spam, which makes me curious what the hell he's been researching.

>>166925424
Didn't work so well for him before, did it?

>>166925424
All my in-game correspondence is in-character. I'm not really diploing now since for all intents and purposes I'm out of the game.

>>166925546
>Didn't work so well for him before, did it?
Also this.

>>166925309
No. You don't do more damage just because defense is lower. There are two seperate checks. Att v Def is likelyhood of a hit, and Damage v. Prot is how much damage occurs. The first doesn't impact the second except in a determination of hit/nohit/shieldhit.

>>166925546
Yeah, I'm not complaining. A big part of Arco's troubles have been because he isn't actually good at RP. He started off by saying something without realizing how other RPing characters would interpret it, and then accused them of acting OOC ... for *not* using meta knowledge to determine he wasn't actually declaring war on everyone at once.

>>166925438
>Also also, using your fliers to attack rear on turn 1 would have been way more beneficial
They'd never have actually made it to your rear. I just needed blockers. Most of my mercs deserted me so I was critically low on bodies.

It was high risk but I thought there was a tiny chance I'd actually dislodge you from my capital and remain a player, even if a small one.

>As for size, I'm no bigger than Ur, Caelum or Hinnom, and my scouts haven't gotten as far as Yomi yet.
It's Nifl who is fucking huge.

>>166925424
I suspect there's more than one person that are not diploing in RP / diploing off site.

>>166925438
>inviting jotuns and vans to the same feast

mate

Anyone have the memes with characters being replaced by Dominions 4 drawings? It's hard to describe, but I know one of 'em is based off of fear and loathing in Las Vegas.

>>166925801
>mate
I can't fucking wait for the shit that will go down on my tula

>>166925424
You don't have to RP out of the game. Even the most hardcore of roleplayers talk about what's going down OOC sometimes.

>>166925723
>He started off by saying something without realizing how other RPing characters would interpret it, and then accused them of acting OOC ... for *not* using meta knowledge to determine he wasn't actually declaring war on everyone at once.
Yeah my bad for not realizing most RPers are autistic and have shit reading comprehension. This has rather dampened my enthusiasm for it desu.

>>166925906
>Yeah my bad for not realizing most RPers are autistic and have shit reading comprehension.
Again with this! Haaa, we tell you but you do not want to listen! You are as stubborn as the bulls before Ernalda led them into the humans' steads!

>>166925894
I wonder if it's one guy that does all the bitching about everyone's RP or if it's just the norm in this thread?

>>166926118
Starting to suspect it's just one fellow.

>>166925906
>shit reading comprehension
You are confusing your failure to communicate effectively with shit reading comprehension.

Tell me, which do you think is more likely: Everyone else can't read, or you fucked up one message by failing to make it clear that a message you sent to other nations and did not mention indies was about indies and not those other nations?

>>166926301
>Tell me, which do you think is more likely: Everyone else can't read, or you fucked up one message by failing to make it clear that a message you sent to other nations and did not mention indies was about indies and not those other nations?
The first one.

>>166925097

Anime has its containment boards, keep it there.

>>166926284
Hope he's not in RoleplayingIsFun

>tfw he's probably the admin

>>166926284
>>166926118
>>166926534
>more than 90 seconds between posts
epic as usual, bob.

>>166926650
I miss that meme

>>166926534
>got mad that the game has Autism in the name and also in all of the players
>decided to make his own autism-free RP game
The joke is he's the most autistic of all.

>>166926534
I'm considering it, but I'd quite like Magic Enhanced to be tossed in.

>>166926650
>90 seconds
Get a pass senpai

>>166873920
3 more for RoleplayingIsFun

If you already have worthy heroes just dl the new update all it does is correct spelling mistakes

>>166926724
The autism was inside each of us all along.

Anyway, glad I got at least one cool battle out of the game. I'm still sticking in it just to fuck with Marverni and see what happens, mind you, but realistically I'm a non-entity now.

I'm gonna go play Solium Infernum.

>>166926880
>I'm gonna go play Solium Infernum.
I wanted to gather people to play a MP match, but they were scrubs. Wanna play sometime?

>>166926880
For AutisticRPGame2, put your old cap's old site as "Grave of the Sequani" or something else related to the lost of my mages

>>166926724
I'm not the running roleplaying is fun
and I'm definitely not the only person who has said anything about the roleplaying. I made one comment early on about Arco's message, and now this argument.

>>166926880
It's a roleplay game, so even if you're not situated to win, you can still be a diplomatic entity and have fun. At least in theory.

>>166926969
>I wanted to gather people to play a MP match, but they were scrubs. Wanna play sometime?
I only just got the game so I'm a complete scrub too. How active is the MP now? It's so old. Can I safely assume the AI is awful?

>>166926997
>most notable thing to happen in your cap is three mages from another guy's empire died
It's bantz I guess

>>166926997
>lost instead of loss
Fuck's sake, apparently good writing was not within us all along

>>166927025
I'll just have to see what happens. You never know...

>>166927125
I don't know because I played MP only twice a long time ago. It's safe to assume it's dead.

And AI is awful. Especially if you take Kingmaker. But then again, I would ban it in MP as well tbqh.

>>166926464
>containment board

You're the one being contained. And it's not like anyone is talking about anime, complaining about weeb reaction images is as stupid as complaining about tv shows reaction images.

>tfw RP demands I make tactically unsafe decisions
>when all I want to do is chill out and be comfy
Fuck it, being more aggressive than usual has worked out pretty for me so far. No reason to stop now.

So, which team do you think made out best. Keep in mind map has 385 (12/player) land provinces, and 50 (50/player) water provinces.

Domg: EA Vanheim EA Mictlan LA Patala

V/anheim: MA Vanarus EA Fomoria MA Arco

Last Fantasy: MA Pelagia LA Abysia EA Sauro

T.R.O.W.: MA Jotun LA Midgard LA Caelum

RPG.net LA Ulm EA TNN MA Scelaria

SA: EA Pan EA Helheim LA Lemuria

TeamLiquid: EA Caelum LA Utgard LA Jomon

RPGCodex: MA Pan MA Vanheim LA Gath

Clockwork: EA Berytos MA Ashdod EA Hinnom

UNF: EA Lanka EA T'ien Chi EA Yomi

dom4mods: LA Mictlan MA Mictlan MA BL

>>166920505
>not listening to Dominions 4 soundtrack

Do you even strela do dia?

>>166928351
SA has a really nice lineup. UNF has a good one for turning gems into sacreds, which is a generally strong tactic.

Vanheim is obviously dead, why don't we find a sub? And why didn't Vanarus say a word yet?
Like, his team partner staled the last 2 turns and is about to stale this one.

>>166928351
>3 early game rush nations
Okay then
Who's playing for us?

>>166928351
/domg/ and /v/anheim are practically the same communities, how do you plan on splitting the pros

and I preemptively propose to remove SA no matter the cost

>>166928786
Domg team, you silly boy.

Having a game with "Autism" in the name when there's a very active game with "Autistic" in the name is maybe a mistake.

>>166928351
>50 (50/player) water provinces
lawd
Jomon and LA Mictlan like to go underwater too though.

>>166928991
I keep sending the wrong 2h file

>>166928991
>>166929098
I was certainly a bit annoyed when Autistic RP wasnt the top of the list anymore. Used to be able to just go to it automatically and now I actually have to think for like five seconds.

>>166929031
And EA Fomoria.

The water is arrayed in a really long river looking thing, so they should all likely be able to reach some water before Pelagia comes calling.

>wasted some RP in skeleton war
FUCK

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And Pure Skill is over.

Certainly not a surprise, neither hard victory when one does get to eat AI nations after AI nations.
Although my scouts never saw Vanheims early wars.

Honorable mention to Fomoria, for staying alive under attacks of multiple nations, and not going AI even if I doomed him into weak position for whole game.

>>166929552
Anyone have the link to this strange map?

>>166929890
So what did you do?

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>>166930083
Somewhy name didin't stick.

Being only underwater nation, it would be easy to quess how my game went...mainly raiding and not being able to hold my land provinces.

>Take over the seas and islands
>Rush Fomorian capital that I share the capring with.
>Lose the siege as amphibian mindblasters come in too late
>Steal Fomorian lands anyway as he had only two forts at that moment
>x20 turns of capturing same provinces and fighting off other nations, that think they can have share of Fomorian old provinces too
>watch as Vanheim gets bigger and claims thrones one by one.
>Can't attack him, as Fomoria would jump my capital if I didin't keep him weak.

>>166920609
>Mozart
>not Chopin
You filthy pleb.

>>166931960
>not Schnittke
Plebeian filth

>>166928351
UNF by far has the best. Strong sacred summons, great antirush capacity, decent lategame paths. In a game without xibalba, Lanka has the best lategame, and Yomi and TC have great summons.

RPGcodex, domg, vanheim, SA, dom4mods, and TROW all have cool stuff. TLF will dominate underwater.

RPGnet, Teamliquid, and Clockwork seem to have a different idea of the game.

>>166933051
Clockwork is just going "Blood is good. If we take all the blood we will win"
scrubs

>>166931960
>>166932894
>>166922057

>It's another episode of fedora tippers trying to get the biggest fedora by listing their most obscure classical artists, even though Requiem is 100% the best of its class

>>166933394
Chopin is obscure?

>>166933051
Mictlan still has a better lategame than Lanka, since aztec summons > Lanka summons. Ozzies are better than any unit summon Lanka has, and puchis are hilariously better than Dakini.

Dom4mods team looks overly focused though, and potentially vulnerable to a rush. Domg team has no such weakness as they have EA Vanheim to protect them.

I'd say most likely winners are either the UNF team or the domg team given team comps. TLF is more or less a shoe in for a dominant and relevant power thanks to Pelagia, but I'm not sure they can actually win if the game goes late.

>>166933394
>even though Requiem is 100% the best of its class
You're not qualified to make such a judgement if you think Chopin is obscure.

So I chose a random nation against the AI
Got EA Pelagia
What the fuck do I do with my mages? Communions?

>>166933825
You wish for friends until the AI quits.

Is there a place to just download worthy heroes without expanded mod?

>>166934004
ok but any nation can do that
I also want to know how to actually play them

>>166934084
you don't

>>166934438
oh
are they that bad?

>>166933394
Chopin isn't obscure. He's one of the best pianists and piano composers of all time. I know less than ten classical composers, and he is one.

>>166933825
I dont even know what EA Pelagia has to be honest. All I know is that in the lore Atlantis fucked them up real bad.

>>166934810
oh

>>166933676
Lanka summons aren't nearly as outclassed as you make them sound (asrapas are mostly worse than ozlols, but cheap and spammy at 5 for 11 bloodslaves; Dakini are better than puchi at most things, if twice as expensive), and their lategame gets really unstoppable from undead spam. Having armies of undead pour over every border is invaluable, especially when a dakini can drop by and give them all flying and+4 strength at will. Theres a reason Lanka is #2 after xibalba, and it's not because they don't have a top tier late game.

>>166934484
They're not hopeless but they're specialized to fighting an aquatic war. You thus will probably conquer the seas completely but then you'll be left with the herculean task of challenging land nations with mediocre amphibious troops. You might be able to overcome this with creative magic tactics (n9 golems, communions, aquatic commanders with blessing of limne, ice elementals, and so forth) but it doesn't make for a particularly fun stretch of play.

>>166933552
>>166933773
>>166934660
>>166933394
His point is that the best music ISN'T obscure

>>166936212
t. plebeian

>>166928351
>Keep in mind map has 385 (12/player) land provinces, and 50 (50/player) water provinces.
u w0t

Anyone got the link to the Wish guide?

>>166935167
Oh, I'm not denying Lanka's lategame isn't top tier, I just put Mictlan as #1 (Xib is better because they can actually reach that lategame) and Lanka at #3.

Asrapa aren't really much cheaper pound for pound than rain of jaguars, and what Puchi's do better than Dakini is possibly one of the most difficult to counter aspect of the game (blood assassination). For 1/2 price.

Really though, much will depend on who the map removes. First test involved 2 nations totally enclosed by an enemy team, and Berytos couldn't be further from the coast. Also, Jomon and EA Vanheim shared a cap ring, so I can only imagine what would happen there.

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Meanwhile in D&D

Should I prophetise my Abomination???

>>166939775
>TFW I won't be able to have my very own Bob living inside of my skull

>>166939837
>Prophetising anyone
God isn't real, kid.

>>166940512
>being this edgy

That's why your nation went to shit in LA, Ulm.

>>166940512
Then who the fuck has been expanding for me?

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>>166940512

>>166941257
roughly half the pretender gods in dominions are delusional murderhobos, wannabes with a severe case of gigantism or literal wild beasts

>>166941257
A literal snake.

>>166944986

And some of them are funny shaped rocks.

>>166944986

Most of them are just praised as a joke.

>>166946053

In fact the jokes is you, the delusional autist behind the screen pretending to be better than your autistic competitors.

>>166946053
>preach about pretender ironically
>he actually becomes a god

Well shit.

>>166946374
It worked for Kek-as-Pepe.

is VanillaSecks's admin dead or what? make Pythium AI or find a sub! he's been stalling forever.

>>166948747
Next time don't join a game without at least asking for admin's steam name or you'll enjoy 30 turns of staling.

t. ChroniclesEA sufferer

>>166948854
AutisticRP has been pretty good about it. Almost turn 30 and only one stale. Only problem was two faggots that went AI really early.

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>diploing every neighbor you have to trade the resources needed to maybe survive an attack

>>166948976
AutisticRP admin told us his steam name.

>>166949043
He did?

>>166949035
>not just diploing every neighbour and underplaying your strengths to get a bigger lead

DIPLOMANCER WHORES GET OUUUT

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>166948976
DSDS is at 61 turns with no stales and only Jotunheim knows my steam name
Also, one AI and one guy who held on until the bitter end

>>166949553
Damn. Is this the golden age of /domg/?

>>166949653
nope, we just got a really great group together

>game named Don't Stale Desu
>nobody stales
what did they mean by this?

>>166926880

>I'm gonna go play Solium Infernum.

I'm tempted to buy this if we could get some /domg/ers together to play some.

Also, I already own Pike and Shot and wouldn't mind playing with you coons.

>>166949883
Speaking of
Game: Today_Local_Domg_Man
Turn number 33
Next turn due: 02:22 GMT on Monday January 30th

Agartha 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Eriu 2h file received
>Sceleria Waiting for 2h file
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Ys 2h file received

Last updated at 00:10 GMT on Monday January 30th

>>166926880
>>166950738
>Solium Infernum
Much diabolism then the deceit, EVERYTHING IS MINE!

>>166949348
>not just diploing every neighbor and overplaying your strengths so they're too afraid to ever attack you.

>>166952638
>not claiming that you have a coalition against them even when you've not sent a message to a single other nation

>>166950738
>>166952554
Can I play MP if I pirate it? I don't want to spend 15 dollars and wind up just stuck with singleplayer.

>>166950738
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQFusXsYyD8
This games looks even more obtuse than Dominions. I'm sold.

I really need an extension for Kichikuo. Yeah I know, and I'm sorry.
But I really need it.

Please read this, admin.

>>166953073
It seems to be Dominions if all the combat and magic detail went into bureaucracy, diplomacy, and espionage instead.

I'd quite like to join Roleplaying is Fun as Atlantis, but sadly there's not enough space for it. Any chance of switching to a map that can support two UW nations, or will I have to participate in the standard "Knife Fight in a Phone Booth" scenario?

>>166954135
Nuuuuu I wanted to play on Snerdryn

>>166954705
Then we gonna have a knifefight.

fucking rejakor won pureskill

>>166955092
Fucking Rejakor rushed me turn 8 then.

>>166955092
Couldn't do anything about it because Riley was an annoying bitch for the entire game. He couldn't possibly win, of course, but I think he didn't even try. It was constant back-and-forth raiding with shitty chaff.

Serves me right for picking A4E9N9 god though.

>>166955092
He is a purely skilled player.

>>166955585
Helheim actually won dom3mods' most recent no-diplo game. Their helheim had N9E4S4 monolith. It was played with ME and no summod, tho, so a bit different nation

>>166955949
A4E4N9 is serviceable, and allows to use a pretty decent late-game SC (I tried it in other games). A4E9N9 just drains your gold too much.

And I missed sailing. Vans are not the same without it.

>>166956168
Gotta say though, expansion is pretty fucking great with it. The problem is everything that happens after.

How to fix Yomi

Oni General, Dai Oni, Ko-Oni, Ai-Oni, Aka-Oni, Oni, and Kuro Oni all have their Chaos Power increased to 2 from 1.

>>166957992
>how to domrush le sad demon nation with order 3 dom 10 pretender erry tiem.mov

>>166957992
>make yomi's troops even more terrible outside their dominion
How do you figure this would fix Yomi?

>>166880962
Game: DontStaleDesuSenpai
Turn number 61
>Next turn due: 02:10 GMT on Monday January 30th

Better Arena: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kazojc1m371tbkq/BetterArena.7z?dl=0

Caelum 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
>Oceania Waiting for 2h file

>Last updated at 01:48 GMT on Monday January 30th
>Current time: 01:49 GMT

RIP

>>166955092
Rejakor best player on domg confirmed?!?!?

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>>166958847
HE DID IT
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>>166958875
Rejakor is actually pretty good, when he doesn't stale out of the game.

Not sure about best on domg, though.

I love ichtyids!

two more people to have FUN roleplaying

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=RoleplayingIsFun

>>166964492
>Tfw want to join
>Tfw I don't want to turn a cozy UW Roleplay for Pelagia into a desperate struggle for survial

>>166965434
It's Therodos. You build pearl dudes, you kill them with JUSTICE and MAGIC and then you be cozy.

>>166965518
>Therodos

Where the fuck is my head, I thought it was Pelagia. I'd be willing to do an Atlantis v Pelagia knifefight, but Therodos is a different beast entirely.

>>166965879
Why do you say that?

>>166965964
Summod turns spectral weapons into AN weapons, yeah? That negates the stupid armour of Living Pillars, and I lack magic weapon troops to do much damage to them. Couple that with the low MR of deep ones, and it's not a great early game match up.

>>166966114
What? No it doesn't. It makes them MRN-hard instead of MRN.

>>166966114
>>166966178
Also, Atlantis has tons of magic weapon access. Basalt Spears (Living Pillars, Warriors of the Deep, and Deep One Spearmen) are magic weapons

>>166966303
>>166966178
Well, this changes things. Excuse me while I send in my pretender.

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>>166966504
>mfw Thed uses living sacreds anyways

"moggers can't take sylvania turns for scrubwarriors and memethrones, can't take black ermor turn for skeletonwars, can't take ctis turns for standardea and fourthturning, can take all turns in roughly five hours"


i wont reply cause im just his buddy posting this for him! :x

>>166966782
Hi Mark

>>166966782
>black ermor turn
He's fucking dead already. He should just set himself AI and not prolong his suffering.

>>166966782
Is he... all tied up?

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Is it just me or does my redwood "forest" look like absolute bollocks?

>>166967767
It doesn't look like a redwood forest.

>>166967767

Looks pretty pine-ey to me.

>>166967964
>>166967865
How would you do it differently at this scale? I made the branches angle downward less than I would a pine, but I can't distinguish tree species that easily with this level of detail.

Although the taxa isn't the important part compared to whether it looks good.

how to replace sprites? any mods for same gameply, but just replaced sprites?

>>166957992
How bout you just make all Oni sacred?

>>166957992
>>166969383
Yomi needs heretics imo

I don't see the appeal of Vanhiem. Whats it even supposed to based on, anyway?

I sort of get midgard and pangea, but why do they go out of their way to exclude greek and roman gods? Why don't they include archtypes from Norse mythology like Thor or Loki? (I mean, not literally, but a frost trickster or a hammer wielder who shoots lightining)

>>166969595
Whats wrong with giving all oni sacred?

Has there ever been a cheap garbage sacred like those little mini-oni? that might be fun, actually

>>166969703
>Has there ever been a cheap garbage sacred like those little mini-oni?
Flagellants.

>>166969749
Flaggs are garbage and can't kill shit
Mini onis are actually tough

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>>166925880

>>166948747
He has password on his pretender and I forgot to set masterpassword on llama.

hey, i had dom 4 from desura a few years ago. i got a new computer and havent redownloaded, and now desuras dead. did i lose my game, and have to rebuy it from steam?

>>166974856
To get it free on steam, you need the CD key. If you still have the old computer, you can get that from the game files.

>>166974856
Contact the devs, they respond slow, but they do respond.

>>166948976
To be fair the AI was doing better than those two guys anyway.

>>166957992
How to actually fix Yomi
>Demon Priest now has 100% chance for +1 to either Fire/Air/Earth/Death magic
>Demon Priest now requires lab and costs slightly more gold to account for better magic path access.

There fixed. Now Yomi has a usable priest and cheap lab rat.
That's literally all they need

fnord

I like the idea of giving yomi heretics. It's both something that works with their existing mechanics and it's flavorful.

>>166952910
only against other pirates.
also >pirating indie games
enjoy going to hell on the off chance it exists.

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>>166981682
>pirate game about conquering hell
>get sent there afterwards to put in practice what I've learned

>>166948976
Literally the same problem with VanillaNewbs. 3 players went AI FOR NO FUCKING REASON. They weren't being attacked or anything. I was even exchanging messages with one of them just turns before.

Really makes me want to go AI too, because I'm bordering 3 of them and don't feel like dealing with random attacks and a game that can't be taken seriously anymore.

>>166981910
Is that game any fun? Whats it like compared to dominions? I wouldn't mind conquering hell.

One more player needed that thinks RoleplayIsFun

>>166982186
It's more like a very complicated board game than it is like Dominions.

>>166955585
As I said earlier, hard to stop it as you would have obliviously tried to get revenge if I didin't keep you down, really sucked the fun out of it thou.
You just painted giant target on yourself early one, with huge amount of provinces no forts anywhere to be seen.

Hey dwarves I killed khorne where's my gear?
I'll come after you next if you don't pay up!

>>166967112
I believe.
Someone will save me!

Fucking Marignon's going to stale in less than an hour.

>>166953171
That's actually pretty close, never thought of it that way before.

>>166949469
This game is meant for us Diplomancers. Normies like you are only baited to play the game so we have weaklings to use our Diplomancing on.

t. Malakal

Hey, Today_Local_Domg_Man admin. I've already sent turn 34, but I might need a 24h extension for turn 35 because of some normie stuff. Thanks in advance.

How many slaves/turn should I be getting by turn 12 as a heavy blood nation?

In practise games, my actual blood economy was, I would guess, thirty slaves/turn with the Sanguine Dowsing Rods I'd just developed by turn 12. It was about fifteen slaves a turn before that. I was just building a second fort, which would be the base of another round of six blood mages, ensuring that by turn 18 my blood slaves/turn would be about 60. Hopefully by turn 24 it would be 90, but I don't know if that's realistic/how the game works.

This translated to 3 Rakshasa per 10 Blood Slaves, incidentally.

>>166987806
By turn 12? It's not important at all yet.

>>166986935
>Normies like you are only baited to play the game so we have weaklings to use our Diplomancing on.
this but unironically

>>166987660
>implying you don't just want to delay being elfed

>>166987874
I wanted to know what kind of urgency I should have in setting it up. I guess that kinda answers iit.

>>166988292

honestly that seems about right

>>166987806

exact numbers are pointless, but you have to balance summoning with research with blood hunting. You might not summon anything at all until you hit certain research goals (aka Air Elementals or something that can be used to fight), and then deploy like 20 blood hunters and start earning 100 slaves/turn.

also don't buy rakshasa. Buy storm demons and dakini.

>>166988793
>Storm Demons + Dakini
How come?

>>166987806
>>166988605
You probably won't even have enough research to use blood slaves until turn 10 or so.

Ideally, you'll wait until you also have const4 to start heavy-duty blood hunting, as SDR makes it much more efficient. Only start hunting heavily earlygame if you need the slaves for a war.

raise dead

Does expanding against other users do anything after a point?

I feel that at my current I can sit on my ass gathering researchers and searching for gems and I could feasibly do it until I've strip searched all my provinces and without any sort of immediate threat or another player starts looking too big to ignore.

Should I expand aggressively or start gathering late game resources?

>>166992929
If you turtle you will lose to the guy who managed to take other players' infrastructure and income, both gold and gem. Always always be at war when you have your early research goals

>>166992929
Denying your opponents the advantages you yourself are profiting from is never a bad thing -- except when doing so denies yourself those advantages. Don't overextend.

Gaining stuff from players is another thing >>166993334

AutisticRP Hinnom do your goddamn turn.
Fuckin slower than yomi I swear on me mum.

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Are Draconians good thug material or I should wait for Troll King?

>>166971916
Thanks mate. Do you have any others? I'm hoping to track down some of the Ur ones.

>>166994530
They've got no magic, no hands for a brand or vine shield, and are useless in cold. Wait for troll kings.

>>166994447
Hinnom is Lukas, what did you expect.

>>166994530
Draconians are literally useless.

Troll king gets you into E3, and comes with high prot regenerating troops.

Duh.

>>166994447
He's proofreading.

>>166995721
...an extension?

>>166997091
>Game: RoleplayingIsFun
>Early Age, max 9 players
>Players so far: 9

May whatever powers remain forgive me. That thing in the bog...I never meant to release it. We are lost. My standard bearer...he will lead it home, and we will all be lost.

GAME START WHEN?

>>166998639
Oops. Didn't mean to reply.

>>166998639
>>166998717
>No one picked Agartha
The Pale Ones have the most concrete story line, all sorts of wacky characters, and a clear bug out option. It's absolutely criminal that no one selected them. Still though I think you guys have a decent cast so I look forward to reading about your shenanigans.

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Man, Sithis, those have been some unfortunate bumps, and I am sorry for that. I probably should have guessed you were heading there but I was just hoping to snag any part of Caevie that I could.

But here's the thing: your thrones will be much easier to claim that Tisor's. I've got one from him but honestly that was pretty lucky. The war with Tisor will continue but I feel it would only be respectful to tell you that as of now the nations of Murmar and Sithis are at war. I wished I could see this through without breaking the bonds between us but I feel that is no longer possible. I'm sorry.

>>166995746
Sum1won has repeatedly told me draconians aren't useless (somehow) and shouldn't be buffed. Why is this then?

I'm glad I pirated Solium Infernum first. I just get an "object expected error" and stop being able to interact with anything when I play.

>>167000102
Either he is wrong or you are lying for some unknown reason.

I'll take door 2.

>>167000102
Well, they aren't as useless as fir bolgs ;^)

>>167000102
>Sum1won says draconians shouldn't be buffed
Summod buffs draconians, so that's a strange thing to claim he said.

>>167000102
they just tear down forts fast

>>167000380
That's just the pirated version. It's like illwinter and bad capital events.

>>167002158
I'll have to buy the real version then, if /domg/ really wants a game. Though I need to wait for my next check next week. I probably need that time to come to grips with the mechanics anyway. My first Avatar sucked.

>>166988950

dakini can cast mass flight, and storm, and don't cost gold. They can hunt up the slaves for another dakini in fairly short order.

Storm demons are great and they are more great the more you get. They fly in storms and get huge +stats in storms and shoot lightning and are also good in melee.

no other lanka summons are as good or as efficient. Maybe Mandeha for the darkness, but even that's a frivolity when you get right down to it. Or demon lords for paths, I guess.

>>167003716
What's the reason to choose Lanka over other B nations? The D?

whats a good nation to learn the basics on?

>>167003771
Reanimation on generic priests
Lanka also has better sacreds than average

>>167003924
So you mean...non B sacreds?

Is the basic plan: use recruited blessed Sacreds to expand while setting up a blood economy + research, then just mass spam Storm demons + reanimate for chaff?

What's Hinnom's contrast btw? Better giant thugging/SC?

>>167004017
>Is the basic plan: use recruited blessed Sacreds to expand while setting up a blood economy + research, then just mass spam Storm demons + reanimate for chaff?
Pretty much

Hinnom having recruitable big giant chassis does make them fine at thugging, I'm just hesitant to say that it's better than Lanka since I would think that Lanka could overtake Hinnom's thugging capability pretty easily once they get a blood economy and start spamming dakini's, which can all cloud trapeze around the place. Hinnom's giants don't really have the paths to do SC'ing, either.

>>167005778
What DOES Hinnom do better, then? Magic wise it seems they're just a more restricted Lanka, without Air and with a little Earth.

>>167006123
Uh, nothing? Hinnom is one of the worst nations in the game.

Hinnom does have a stronger early rush, since size 5 high morale tramplers can crush certain nations, but that's more or less it.

>>167006123
>What DOES Hinnom do better, then?
Killing their own pop.

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>>167006123
Super cool lategame actual SC summons that you will never get to since your bloodhunting capability is worse than a nation with zero blood

Game is starting. Good luck to everyone. If anyone submitted a placeholder pretender, I can unstart.

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>>166873920
i just bought this game, i'm coming over from like 500 hours in EU4 and this seems pretty esoteric but strangely alluring.

any tips for a newfaggot?

>>167007428
Use magic

>>167007428
jump in as many MP games you can with the nation with the lore you like the most

>>167007510
i haven't even figured out how to attack these "enemy" units in tiles yet.

>>167007428
Support your armies with mages
Don't doomstack
Don't play against the AI past a certain point if you want to play MP, the strats you use against the AI do not work against other players
Look up the /v/anheim magic guide
Look up every single unit in the inspector, even if you think you know what they do. You will have missed something.
Don't recruit indies, until you figure out which indies are good.
Sitesearch manually with whatever 2+ path mages you have. If you have a dude with more than 1 magic path that is also fine. Don't bother with any remote sitesearching spells except for arcane probing.
>>167007624
right click on your province, then select a commander with troops assigned to him (army setup in the right hand of the UI) and then left click to send him to his probable death

>>167007803
Or voice of Tiamat underwater.

>>167007803
cool, I just lost my first battle.

I'm early ages, playing as ulm.

i'm recruiting dudes, i'm pretty sure they're being dumped into my garrison. how do I put them into a unit?

>>167007428
>>167007984
Read the fucking manual. Nobody's gonna spoonfeed you the very basics.

>>167007984
army setup, select their sprites and then left click on a commander. Commanders can only lead a certain number of troops, equal to their leadership. Most commanders have 40, most mages have 10. EA Ulm is...difficult to learn how to play with, I'd suggest Late Age Arcoscephale or Middle Age Ulm instead

>>167008107
suck my dick nigger
>>167008131
alright, thanks. i appreciate it. my civ has no magic and all my units are infantry/archers, how do I get magic units?

>>167008194
He's right though. You can find all the basic interface/game mechanics information in the manual. Acting like a 14 y o faggot will not help your case.

>>167008194
You but mages in the commander section.
Doesn't this game have a tutorial? I remember playing a tutorial.

>>167008107
calm down sunshine, I wouldn't wish the manual on my worst enemy, that things a PoS
>>167008194
Mages are commanders. EA Ulm has weird mages that are very useful if you know what to do with them. Like I said, they're a bit difficult for a new player

>>167008303
Well, if you're the one explaining, please go on. You already gave a really useful advice that will tell a new player who doesn't even understand how magic paths work a whole lot.
>EA Ulm has weird mages that are very useful if you know what to do with them

Try doing the tutorial in the manual.The manual's not very good aside from finding out spell effects and the exact mechanics of combat, but it should at least help you understand using the interface.

>>167008512
what?

>>167009026
Probably what to do with Ulms weird mages.

I just opened the turn and noticed games over. well GG. Also helheim thanks for losing to my Dai Onis all day

>>167009542
I never even fought them for real with my own thugs and mage support. And yeah, by fighting we let Rejakor eat the AIs and win.

>>167000102

In Summod they have three more base prot, and get an extra attack, which makes them slightly less useless. If memory serves Cronemod had those buffs AND made them size 3, which was pretty huge.

If nothing else they are fantastic for sieging stuff down. I'd never get more than maybe two or three Chiefs, but those can churn out Draconians forever, which can help you crack forts open real good like.

>>167009680
>>167009542
that's the thing with a no diplo game though, it's hard to effectively curve a growing power and being EA I had effecitvely zero scounting

>>167008301

Kinda. The tutorial's just got a base scenario, with the actual walkthrough bits in the manual.

>>167008194

I do recommend going through the manual's tutorial though, it does cover most of the basics.

>>167009393
Oh. First get earthpower (conj 3) in order to cast strength of giants (ench 3), legions of steel (const 3), iron and marble warriors (alt 5 and 7) with E2s. Use water bracelets (const 6) to cast Quickness and Quickening (alt 4 and 8), and fire resistance if you are fighting someone with big fire access on E1W1s. Cast magma eruption (evo 6) with F1E2s, cast rain of stones (evo 7) with A1E2s or A1E1s and earth boots. Ulms mages are weird because you have the good warrior smiths, and the overpriced shamans. Occasionally they end up having enough paths to be useful, but for a 135 gold 7 RP mage that /might/ roll D2, E2 or a useful crosspath is pretty shit compared to the warrior smiths, which cost 30 less and have a forge bonus

Scoutmod nodiplo game when?

>>167007624
Do the tutorial. It's in the manual.

>>167008194
All mages are commanders, and all nations have them.

>>167010436
Well maybe not ermor or lemuria.

>>167010878
Well, they have to summon them.

You shouldn't play Ermor or Lemuria for your first playthrough though.

>>167009919
Yeah, but shamans are stealthy. Having an shaman accompanying a raiding party drastically improves their effectiveness.

>>167009708
They cost air gems. They're inferior to great eagles in literally ever way, so they have 0 uses.

>>167011051
I actually played Ermor on my first playthrough. Not for fucking long though.

>>167010247
I'd play that.