/bbg/ ─ Bloodborne General

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MARRY THE DOLL
LOVE THE DOLL
HAND HOLD WITH THE DOLL

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BLOODTINGE

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>>166866814
ARCANE

>>166866814
same

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PURGE FILTH

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YOU'RE THE BEAST

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>>166866916
THEIR CHILDREN, TOO

>>166866614
Shieeet, that's some top quality cosplay

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NUTHIN
PERSONNEL
KID

>>166867201
It's perfect, and on top of that she's a QT too

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>>166867201
It could be better

>>166867373
post the original plz

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>>166867515
Inferior version coming through

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>>166866871

QUALITY

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>>166867515
I don't have the webm

>>166867615
That picture gives me a rager

these streets are gonna get a bit more dirty

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>>166867894
Choir is not for sexual, arcane studies only

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>tfw using a weapon that doesnt really fit your build
>tfw you love it to death anyways

Idc if Im the only here who likes the Saif. I am just enthralled by its untricked version. the range is just crazy. Saifbros ww@

>>166867894
> not "sheets"

Anyone feel like helping me out with the Loran Darkbeast in the Lower Loran dungeon? I've never really done multiplayer in the dungeons before so I dunno if NG+ matters but I'm on NG+

I sincerely wish there was a crouch button so I could teabag enemies.

>>166868086
Sure thing, I'll help. Set a pass and I'll get ringing.

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>>166868039
Saif can be used on any build that isn't pure bloodtinge. If you're str just slap heavy abyssals on it, if you're arc use bolt gems.

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Ahh.... You were at my side all along...

My guiding moonlight...

What's the best way to stat and gem to maximize damage on the Moonlight Sword?

>>166868156
Thank you, I'll set it to bbg

>>166868039
Everyone loves the Saif

>>166868231
Ringadingin' at the layer three lamp.

I swear to Christ if Hibiki tries to cuck me out of this

>>166868214
50/50/50 trip 23% Watcher Nourishings.

>>166868039
Saif is pretty great, untricked has the best stun of any skill weapon and the transformation attacks best positioning moves.

Unfortunately it's a weapon for some reason I can't master well, so I end up using more manual dash weapons like the BoM instead.

>>166868214
50/25/25 or 25/25/50, former is better for the blade but latter is better for beams and Tools. Full Nourishings for both if you wanna use the whole moveset effectively. First choice can use a Heavy and 2 27.2% Phys gems if you only care about the blade.

>>166868365
Better add 40 endurance there for longest combo potential.

>>166868330
>Got matched with a Vileblood

Ringing again.

>>166868330
Hmm... it says 'This dungeon has been deleted from the server' in red text at the bottom of the screen when I select it, think that matters? I'm at layer three and I've rung but I'm not seein ya

>>166868619
Then you'll either need to remake the dungeon and run to layer three again or just beat the boss on your own. Sorry m8.

>>166867615
I can only imagine a bulge
/v/ has ruined me

>>166868701
Oh damn, alright. Thank you

>>166868762
>Ruined

More like enlightened.

On one hand, the Reiterpallasch looks kinda stupid.

On the other, trick and pair with the Evelyn for gangsta mode.

Fight Club where?

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How is the Church Pick for ARC? is it Serrated in both modes?

>>166869226
It's still pretty stupid in tricked.

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Can someone please help me with Ludwig? I'm doing an arc build, I'm underleveled, and trying to get the holy moonlight sword.

Level 51, pass is arc, at the fog

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>>166868854
I know

>>166869450
lorizzle, it's pretty dead though

>>166869493
Bad. It loses its best feature, thrust damage, if converted to elemental damage via gem.

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>>166867658
STOP BULLYING MY DOG
REEEEEEE
t. Archibald

>>166869493
It's serrated in both modes.

And you can pick any weapon you really like the moveset for an arcane build as long as it's not mixed damage.

>>166869514
Well shit that was fast. Thanks for the help Hibiki!

I'm trying to force myself to use the wheel on my Arc playthrough, but I keep running into things weak to bolt. The tonitrus is good against EVERYTHING

>>166869503
Dunno, never actually took it into a fight. I'm building Skl/BT for a Chickage/Bow set and it just feels so damned good to have my bullets actually doing damage.

>>166870032
Tonitrus is not good against breakage

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is an hp regen build viable? is it fun?

>>166870047
Havn't made a BT build yet, honestly. But I agree, quality builds are great but ranged options are tragic. Enjoying my arcane builds so far, HMLS beams scratch that itch for me.

>>166870247
No, no

>>166870162
>high tension fight, need to pull out the ol' THUNDERSTRUCK

>hit once

>!!WEAPON AT RISK!!

EVERY TIME

>>166870247
No and probably not.
Mainly because you'd have to spend a gorillion hours trying to farm watchers for pulsing gems since ritekeepers only drop circles. You'd also do no damage unless you run with another weapon which is gemmed for damage

>>166870247
Considering you can have 4 gems equipped at a time, the most you can have is 20 hp recovery every 3 seconds, which would take 4 and a half minutes to fill your entire life if you have reasonable 1800.

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My character is a tomboy. Does /bbg/ like tomboys?

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>>166871556
Edgy Maria's "ImSoCool.jpg/10

>>166871556
Looks fine, but what's up with the pic quality

>>166871895
What's wrong with it? It was taken with PS share. Compression?

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>>166869743
>>166869918

damn it, looks like it doesnt matter. Ive already committed myself to this build, and I guess you need 14 SKL for the Pick.

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You can only pick one

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>>166871872
Do you prefer top hats then?

>>166872195
Rom. Hands down

>>166871556
>>166872228
Her face appears to be swelling.

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>>166872195
Rom :3

>>166872801
I'm not the only one who finds it terrifying on an existential level that Rom was once human, right?

>>166871085
That's why you instead make a 99 ARC character with base VIT, rely entirely on tools and use four pulsing gems to regenerate 30% of your HP quickly so you have an infinite amount of Blood Bullets.

With 10 VIT in a cursed dungeon you need 85 health to make blood bullets, which regens quite quickly with 20hp regen.

What would her build and favorite weapon be?

>Kill Amygdala 12 times for a good waning nourishing gem
>Every single one is garbage
Pls From, I just want to be done upgrading my guiding Moonlight.

How active is the game? My internet is fucked so I can't really tell. Trying to invade and fuck people's shit up, not do honorabru duels.

>>166873179
You can usually get invasions in a minute or less, as long as you're within the BL for the area. The Frontier and Mensis are almost always active, and aren't very honorable, in my experience

>>166873179
Fairly active, best place for invasions are low level Burgertown and Frontier, maybe early Mensis. Most people don't PvP at low levels so being a BL43 Twink you can find more ganks than duels.

>>166872986
And getting one-shotted by a trwoing knife? Yeah should be fun.

>>166872883
It's kinda sad I'll agree, wonder how old she is.

>>166872195
Is that 1800-BEYOND?

>>166874021
1800-BEYOND on the left, Rom on the right

>>166872195
Rom

>>166874116
Cute as fuck m8, good job, would crush in hand to deliver cosmic justice/10

Rom is also super cute

>do 100% run
>have to kill oedon chapel dweller
:(
nothing else phased me
but this
he just wanted to be your friend

>>166871556
I like it

>>166874345
They're lovely
Not mine by the way, I found them here: https://twitter.com/piro00409435

>>166873635
It takes four pthumerian knifes to kill someone with 10 VIT in a cursed dungeon.

>doing a skill run
>just want church pick
>try and get it right away, level 34
>not happening

is hard

>>166876348
I have a twink if you'd like some help

http://imgur.com/aJIGyKi

How's this for a level 98 build? Just going to co-op mainly.

>>166876757
SHIT NO.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/21902

I thought I copied the link properly.

>>166876626
This is my first time running the DLC, so I'll pass. Thanks for offering. I'm doing a dirtbag coward run of the area, which is a fun departure from my normal Soulsborne strategy of killing all the dudes and returning a mighty hero.

>>166876898
You can't use any weapon properly with that build. And if it's for coop, why bother with the pvp bbg meta?

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Ludwig, Maria and the Living Failures down, I haven't hit a wall with any boss yet but I fear its fast approaching with Kos and Laurence on the horizon.

>>166877283
Because I don't wanna be overleveled. 98 is a good pve twink, right? Or is it much lower?

>>166877409
>98
>twink

Maybe for NG++

>>166877283
You can use the HMLS well with that build, as well as quality weapons.

>>166877628
I just want a low enough level to accompany the majority of the players while having the ability to do endgame (chalice/dlc/last few bosses), is the goal.

>>166877409
>98 Twink

Twinks are way lower leveled, 43 is common twink level. You're build is pretty bad, you'll want at least one damage stat at 50 and 40-50 Vit. I assume it's for HMS? Go either 25/12/50 or 50/25/15.

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>>166877727

>>166877660
But for quality weapons like LHB, and even worse for biased skill/str quality weapons, the points in arc could be better used.

And for HMLS the beams won't be strong enough, especially since it would be better to using tempering than nourishing with that build for dps. It'd be better to go base str/skl + arcane for converted weapons and good beam.

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Can anyone recognize this location?

>>166878016
Don't reply to the tripfag, he doesn't even play the game anymore

>>166878096
I don't want to ask how you got there, just come down before you hurt yourself on that elevator. The Research Hall is not a playground

>>166877821
Okay, so I apparently misused the word twink. So what's a good level to help everyone from about cainhurst to depth 5 chalice?

What the FUCK is UP with these FUCKING DOGS

>>166878353
98, most people are doing Cainhurst around level 70.

>>166878353
70-80+, Cainhurst isn't that active I'd imagine. Passwords also make level mostly irrelevant. You can get 50 in one stat and 40 Vit around 80 which is enough for most builds.

>>166878528
What if it's an arcane build? 50 in arcane is alright if I just convert a weapon but I honestly despise the cleaver/saw spears so hms is the way to go for me. HMS seems like a weapon for higher levels, though.

>>166878851
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/21904

>>166878096
Church elevator, Old Hunters DLC, the one hiding the item you need to fight Laurence

>>166878416
>dogs
You know what you must do.
>>166866814

>>166878851
Pure builds can easily stay within 80 but HMS needs some Str to be effective. Cruel Fate: 40/12/10/9/5/50 puts you at 76, you could also use the Axe, Kos Parasite and Cane. If you get 16/12 Str/Skl (BL85) you can wield the HMS but it's not recommended since the beams will be the only good thing about it. Still usable though I suppose, opens up new weapons too like Saif, Cuttah, Toni, Kirk, etc.

>>166878851
You can convert any weapon you like that only has one type of damage, you have the base requirements and you have decent gems. I'm using a converted rakuyo solely because I like the moveset, and only around 50 less AR than in my skill build.

Okay, so I've been having this thing throughout my entire time with Bloodborne when, occasionally, my character does an emote completely without my input. I didn't mind it until now because often it was weirdly apropos, but it just got me killed. Right after I picked up the boomhammer, and heard the ticking, instead of rolling away frantically like I wanted my character did a gallant bow. What the fuck is up, how do I stop this.

>>166879419
You happened to move the controller in a certain way while the X button was held down. Holding X and moving the controller does gestures, it's shit and stupid and has killed me before.

>>166879419
It happens when you keep pressing X and shake your controller

>>166879419
You're holding down the x button and physically tilting the controller, whether you notice it or not.
Doing that will perform a gesture, and yes, it always seems to happen at a point where it gets you killed.

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>>166870247
Maybe a rally abuse build if we ever find Guidance 3

>>166879571
>>166879595
>>166879609
FUCK

TWO YEARS THIS SHIT HAS BEEN MYSTIFYING ME

Can I turn it off?

>>166879419
You can't, pressing X let's you pick up stuff but can also trigger the motion-activated emoting since you have to hold X and move the controller to do it. Even for a small second it can emote, I guess you can try not moving your controller everytime you press X. No option to deactivate it.

>>166879754
Motion and touchpad shit was a mistake.

>>166879712
Not to my knowledge. Just be sure you don't hold the X button

Somebody help me kill Ludwig

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Man, why do they go through the trouble of trying to make you feel like you're going way deep underground in the chalices and then add these light holes even in depth 5 layer 4 chalices.

You're destroying any illusion of going into deep underground caves when you know the surface is 10 feet above you.

>>166880081
It might be just one very well illuminated room above.

Is the fc dead?

Can I get a hand with Martyr Logarius? bl 48

>absolutely no fucking clue where to go now
I goddamn love and also fucking hate this feeling

>>166880785
I can

Dont let hibiki cuck me

>>166881097
Is it right after Blood starved beast? The only time I really had no idea where to go.

>>166881264
uhhh, pass though?

>>166881264
okai where summon sign?

>>166881317
I'm not the guy you responded too but YES. I went into the chalices thinking that was the next step

>>166880081
But how do you know that's the surface? The Labyrinth may be attached to Yharnam at the surface level, but who knows what kind of arcane fuckery is occurring on the lower layers.

>>166881317
Nah, I've killed a load of bosses. (Apparently I also went into a beat my head until I killed him the first boss of the DLC without realising it was even the DLC.) I just don't know where to go to progress the actual 'story', I thought I'd found a new lead but that turned out to terminate in a thing I can't interact properly with yet, so I'm still hunting.

>>166881502
>>166881317
Gherman will tell you to go (back) to Oedon Chapel if you talk to him. That's actually how I figured it out when I went through the first time.

>>166881560
>The Labyrinth may be attached to Yharnam at the surface level
It's not, it's impossible to gain access to the labyrinth from the waking world

>>166881483
They don't exist in this game
Go into settings in game, and then go into Network. And put bbg as the password matching. You should have an item called the Beckoning Bell. Ring that outside the boss

>>166881684
>may be

>>166881684
Which begs the question, how do the Snatchers get you to Yahar'gul from the Labyrinth?

>>166881756
They can?

>>166881756
They do? That's interesting.

>>166881572
>that turned out to terminate in a thing I can't interact properly with yet
I'm curious, what was that?

>>166881850
>>166881871
It's probably because their being Pthumerians can freely come and go, but I think this is another mystery where we'll never see a satisfactory answer

>>166881871
>>166881850
I assume he's talking about the Snatcher enemy which shows up in the Labyrinths.

>>166881685
thank fampai, just trying to get this chikage build started asap

>>166882080
I thought that getting killed by them brought you back to the dungeon lamp.

>>166882028
Or maybe they're not Pthumerian, they're native to Yahar'gul and got sent down the tombs to see what they could snatch back up.

>>166882212
They share the Pthumerian skin, stature, and magical ability, and are found primarily in Pthumeru, I'd think they are. Still doesn't answer how they can move between the dungeons and Yahar'gul

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>>166882383

>They share the Pthumerian skin, stature, and magical ability

So do church doctors and giants, ot could be an effect using old blood.,

>Still doesn't answer how they can move between the dungeons and Yahar'gul

The school of mensis probably has access to chalice dungeons and sends its kidnappers down there.

>>166882595
They have a bluish tinge to their skin over the church doctors and giants, whose skin is more a dead white. How could Mensis access the dungeons?

>>166881926
I thought I'd finally found a way forward when I found the upper cathedral ward key doing a backtrack of yahar'gul, since after reading the description I remembered a door that had opened near the catherdral ward lamp, that had had a small tower with a locked door at the top/end. This was long after I'd invited some cunt to the cathedral who appeared to have slowly killed everyone else and then fucked off. I should've been suspicious when I first discovered him and he appeared to be eating a corpse. I went through the door, through that upper ward area, killed the Celestial Emmisary boss with all the blob-head dudes, then saw a bunch of notes saying to try physical attack, broke my way through the window, killed Ebrietas after a few attempts, and now there's what looks like a corpse of Rom that lets me interact but only offers up a "Do nothing" in response.

If I wanna do a skill build, aiming for the church pick, I should also bump Strength to 25, right?

>>166882754
Do you want tips?

>>166882595
>So do church doctors and giants
Those can't be found in the dungeons though.
>The school of mensis probably has access to chalice dungeons and sends its kidnappers down there
But why would they? Their job is to capture living people, catacombs aren't the most appropriate place to do that.

>>166882769
Ideally yes for the church pick.

>>166882736
>How could Mensis access the dungeons?

The School of Mensis is a branch of the Healing Church. The Choir has acces to the isz dungeons and Mensis has a lot of Choir technology (augur, a call beyond, healing bell) so it's not far fetched they could have either used chalices provided by the church or stole them from the Choir.

Also, you can find Cainhurst knights down in the dungeons. If they could get their hands on chalices why not enyone else?

>>166882832
I wouldn't mind a very vague one if I mention all the bosses I can remember killing. I enjoy exploring but I wager I've just overlooked some small detail or walked past a door or something that'll make me feel like a fucking retard when I find it, but scanning over in my head I can't think of any obvious side paths I failed to check down. And I don't much relish the thought of spending hours combing ALL the areas I've already been through.

>>166882938
Good, that means I can try out some of these swanky DLC weapons.

>>166882859
I think the most likely explanation is "Miazaki-sempai! We haven't finished the chalice dungeons yet and we go gold TOMORROWW!"

"Just recycle some in-game enemies, who gives a shit, it's a randomized optional dungeon mode. How about those big guys with the sacks? They're fun to fight."

>>166883092
Seek the Nightmare.

so hintertomb is useless for gems, right

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>>166882859
>>166883127
See>>166883053

Also, the School of Mensis produced a failed great one and brought about mergo. Why wouldn't they head down the catacombs and try to retrieve old edlritch stuff when they are obviously are doing Great One fuckery. Is like the best place to look into. They could have been targeting tomb prospectors to kidnap.

>>166883053
Mensis split from the Church, and those pieces of technology were probably joint discoveries. All the Mensis scholars were dead, so no one would have really been capable of doing the thievery, except maybe the Yahar'gul Hunters. And in the words of >>166882859 why would they? They were having a successful intake of people from Yahar'gul and Yharnam

>>166883127
That's not a valid explanation.
It's a well known fact that Pthumerians are part of the Mensis ritual, they also have bell maidens (confirmed Pthumerians, see Sinister Isz Chalice) and eyeball witches, also found in the dungeons.

>>166883187
"Seek the Nightmare newborn."
I found that place earlier when I got that tonsil stone thing from somewhere, and then again after I killed The First Reborn, or something like that, it had dudes shooting fireballs at you and was pretty much entirely made of limbs. I also killed the boss at the end of it, Amygdala but couldn't see anywhere to do, there's loads of ship masts sticking up from the fog but no way I can see to get down. I thought the tower might have one, but it was just a lamp.

>>166883393
See>>166883389
Also, if Mensis has no acces to chalices and we're assuming kidnapers come from the dungeons then how did they obtain kidnapers to work for them in the first place?

>>166883351
Yes, it's only for Madman set and higher chance to fight bosses in poison pools.

>>166883432
Go back to where you fought The Flailing Abortion.

>>166883667
damn what a meme

>>166883351
End game yes, but early they have decent Phys Triangles. Specifically the Madman in Lower Hintertomb layer 1 pre-boss bonus room. Drops 16.5%+14 cursed Triangles.

>>166883393
>All the Mensis scholars were dead, so no one would have really been capable of doing the thievery, except maybe the Yahar'gul Hunters. And in the words of >>166882859 # why would they? They were having a successful intake of people from Yahar'gul and Yharnam

They died AFTER completing the mensis ritual was completed after you kill Rom and allowed the creation of One Reborn and that pulled them into the nightmare. Also, the onlly thing they got from Yharnam was people, the probably needed ritual materials obtained from the dungeons.

>>166883635
That is what we have been trying to answer in the first place, why the Snatchers can freely move between the waking world and the dungeons. They're quite obviously Pthumerians. Anything that Mensis/Yahar'gul tried to make didn't turn out like that. Also, they were all killed after the Blood Moon.
>>166883870
>They died AFTER completing the mensis ritual was completed after you kill Rom and allowed the creation of One Reborn and that pulled them into the nightmare
This smells like headcanon

>>166884000
Note AFTER killing Rom
>Ritual secret broken. Seek the nightmare newborn

From the Umbilical Cord:
>This Cord granted Mensis audience with Mergo, but resulted in the stillbirth of their brains."

It was Mergo's birth that fucked their minds, and Mergo is only born after you kill Rom.

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>>166883685
I got nothing. There's that building with all the caged-head dudes and the one that originally let me access the 2nd floor of the building in the nightmare but nothing in the arena itself. It has to be something goddamn simple I've overlooked.

>>166884543
Look for big door to the exit the second floor of the nightmare lecture hall.

>>166884000
>That is what we have been trying to answer in the first place, why the Snatchers can freely move between the waking world and the dungeons.

The dungeons are in the waking world axcept for Isz, what made you think they are part of the dream world?

And to answer your question is, again, mensis having acces to chalice which is likely seeing that every other organization had access to them (healing church, cainhurst, byrgenwerth, choir)


>Also, they were all killed after the Blood Moon.

The ones in Yahar'gul did because fo the beasts. why would the ones in the dungeons get killied?

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>>166884614
HOW THE FUCK DID I WALK PAST THE SEVERAL FUCKING TIMES?
thank you though, kind anon

>>166884000
Pthumeru is the waking world. Alfred tells you the dungeons lie below Yharnam, and we know from the game previews that the chalices are "a web of mazes below Yharnam."

>>166883870
>>166884453
There's a corpse with a Mensis Cage on that you can find in the Hypogean Gaol before killing Rom. It's right next to the lamp.

Also "stillbirth of their brains" seems more like a vegetable state to me than immediate death and mummification. At the very least even if they were immediately killed the bodies shouldn't be so decomposed.

>Mergo is only born after you kill Rom.
If you have >60 insight you can hear the baby noises before Rom.

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>>166884767
good luck sempai, I hope you got sedatives

>>166884843
Ok you got me there. Still, what makes you think they couldn't steal the chalices from the church before they died? By the time we arrive most organizations are dead anyways (the Choir only has Yuri left, the powder keks are gone unless you count Djura, whi defected them, Annalise is the last vileblood).

>>166884950
While I'm here I might as well ask, does that crown you get from Logarius only reveal that one single illusion behind him? I don't want to be continue swapping to it every time I find a suspicious looking wall.

>>166884680
>The ones in Yahar'gul did because fo the beasts. why would the ones in the dungeons get killied?
I wasn't referring to the ones in the dungeons, I meant the ones in Yahar'gul
>>166885009
It's possible they had access somehow, seeing as Damian can be summoned there. However, we got terribly off-topic. The Snatchers being Pthumerians was the original subject, and a good amount of evidence shows they are
>>166885093
Just the one

>>166885093
God, that would actually have been a cool idea, even if it only happened in Cainhurst.
But no, it just gets you in to see the Queen.

Everyone says "Shoot the dogs", but it does fucking pitiful damage anyway

>>166885542
The point is that it knocks them down.

>>166885542
The amount of damage isn't the point, good hoonter. It's that other thing that happens when they get shot.

>>166885668
>>166885697
That doesn't help me with the other four that are inevitably behind the one I shot.

God, I fucking hate them.

Whats the best way to beat hotdog?
New player, beat bsb yesterday and a kind anon told me to do chalices.

>>166885776
Why the fuck are you aggroing five dogs at a time, you beastly idiot?

>>166885776
In what alternate universe are you fighting five dogs at once?
Work at learning how to aggro enemies.

>>166885835
I'm doing Hemwick, for like the 5th time, and for some fucking reason the dogs in the Cainhurst summon area are giving me a fucking fit. I've never had issues with them before, but now twice in a row I've been unable to aggro one without getting the whole pack on me.

>>166885776
Throw a knife or pebble to attract one dog at a time.

Why do more people not use the firefly swamp in the woods for PvP?

>>166885831
Bait head swipes, slap his face. Git gud at spacing. When he's vomiting go for the legs. The head and legs have armor that'll break and you'll start doing real damage. Use whatever mediocre physical gems you've picked up, Bolt Paper if you can spare any and ideally a serrated weapon like a Saw for the beast bonus damage.

>>166881684
But Ludwig wasn't a dreaming hunter and never entered the dream while he was alive, and his weapon tool tips say he found the guidance runes and the HMGS in the chalice dungeons implying he traveled there from the waking world.

I honestly can't decide what my favorite weapon is. Whirligig is my main, as well as the Beast Cutter and Boom Hammer, but I've already taken a liking to the Holy Moon Light Sword, and I know I'll love the Rakuyo when I get a hold of it. The DLC weapons really are just sweet.

>>166886067
Too far even with shortcuts, most low-mid levels run through em, no Bell Maidens unless you ring them in. Frontier and Mergo's were already the PvP hotspots established early since maidens spawn automatically there.

>>166886067
Too far of a walk from a lamp, probably.
I like that area, though, I'd be down to fight there sometime.

So, why doesn't Logarius fight with his trademark wheel? Don't get me wrong, I love the fight with him, just seems odd that he doesn't have it with him.

>>166886250
Fucking got him a bees dick off and got greedy.
thanks!

>>166886360
The only way to gain access to the dungeons is to perform a ritual with sacrificial materials.
There's not a direct entrance to the dungeons in the waking world (as in without teleporting) but maybe the ritual can be performed outside of the dream.

>>166886585
It was the trademark weapon of his hunters, not his own

>>166886585
In the Wheel description:
>Weapon wielded by Martyr Logarius' band of executioners
If that's taken literally, it was used by his underlings, but he himself didn't use it.

>>166886876
Ooh, I just assumed he was the one that designed it, since it seemed like the best way to get rid of the Vilebloods.

>>166886360
Chalice dungeons are physical places below yharnam though. Chalices are probably just keys.

Pure Arc master race.

If Ludwig and Maria, in their prime, ever had a fight, who do you think would come out on top?

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>>166871872
Is this edgy too

>>166887406
Ludwig. He set the bar for the Church Hunters, discovered the HMS, and had a line of weapons and badges named after him. Maria was Gehrman's apprentice

>>166887428
post sliders

I suck with character creators and I want to make a qt girl

>>166872883
I find it interesting. What made Rom so special that she was chosen to become kin to the Great Ones? What kind of relationship did she and Ebritas have to where Ebritas is mourning her?

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Should I go 50/30 str arc or 25/25/50 for the holy moonlight sword? I plan on mostly using tricked R1s

>>166887406
Considering how hard Moonlight Sword L2 bullies Maria, I'd say Ludwig.

Anyone wanna help me bust out Hemwick real quick? I'm seriously off my game and this is taking FUCKING

FOREVER

>>166887707
I'm level 35, by the way.

>>166887707
Pass?

>>166887774
bbg

>>166887840
ill join as well

>tfw making additional backup saves to do shit like throwing millions of echoes into random stats
This is fun

>>166887924
>>166887774
It'll be up in a tick, I ran off to Hypogean Gaol to get Tonitrus.

>>166887997
It's up

>>166887589
That might depend on what other weapons you're going to use, but at the very least, bringing skill to 25 improves more than strength above 25. And tricked you get 70% of the arcane damage in every R1 attack, so the damage will be larger with strength than arcane, but on the other side beams are 0% physical.

>>166888036
>>166888036
Where are you ringing?

>>166887589
2nd

God, I am playing LIKE FUCKING SHIT

WHERE DID MY SKILL GO

>>166888191
At the lantern, I just died in the most embarrasing way possible. I'll give it one more go and then just go to bed, I've lost all semblance of ability.

>Decide to help someone out with Logarius.
>In a rare moment, said player recognized what my username was and messaged me, calling me a master of karate.
If you're here guy, that made my night.

>>166888263
im not getting anything

So I'm looking at doing some Chalices to get a super-early burial blade, should I go for the Lost or Uncanny version? It only changes gem slots, right?

Also, what'd be the quickest route through the various chalices to acquire one?

>>166888215
>>166888169
That settles it, thanks.

After learning about the intention behind blood vials, I look at 'farming' vials in a totally different way.

>>166888545
Do elaborate.

>>166888297
What's your username? It's a little hard to get the joke without it.

>>166888437
Sorry, I got a joiner. Didn't realize there were 2 people coming so we just took off.


Praise the Good Blood for blueperson05, who killed pretty much every single thing before I could even get to it. Thank you for tolerating me even after I missed a visceral and died to an ogre the first time.

Now it's bedtime.

>>166888597
Not him, but I'm assuming that we simply kill beasts and drain them of their blood.

>>166888597
Dayman_AaaahAaah. My friend chose it for me after watching the Always Sunny episode.

>>166888458
Uncanny is best, and you won't get it super early, since you'll have to get to Lower Ailing Loran Root Chalice, which means besides all the chalice dependency (mainly pthumeru and loran chalices) you'll also need to at the very least beat amygdala on the story. And all the dungeon crawling will take a lot more time than rushing yaharg'ul -> mensis -> beating gherman.

>>166888597
'Farming' vials is actually 'hunting' for vials. Vials reduce you to acting like a beast: you have to break down hunt to get them. Most players even establish particular routes in which to hunt vials, much like an animal of prey.

>>166888458
You'll want an uncanny version

After Amelia you'll want to do BSB for the Pthumeru Chalice. Once you do that you'll head to the Forbidden Woods for the Tonsil Stone. Use that to go to the Nightmare Frontier and kick Amys ass getting you Ailing Loran. Now the chalices start

you'll need to do Pthumeru until Lower Pthumeru for the mats for Loran. Then you'll need to do Loran until completing Lower Loran to use the glyph of a Lower Loran root chalice with an Uncanny BB inside

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>>166888860
>'Farming' vials is actually 'hunting' for vials. Vials reduce you to acting like a beast: you have to break down hunt to get them. Most players even establish particular routes in which to hunt vials, much like an animal of prey.

+1 insight

Also, consider the following: the way the church was able to produce its own healing blood was by using nuns that could reproduce the old blood and harvesting their blood. They literally farmed the blood off of people like patients from the research hall before refining their technique enough to do it off regular nuns.

>>166889194
And don't forget them having a Great One in their basement for blood farming as well.

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>>166889132
You don't even need to go down to the woods for the tonsil stone. Any window where you talk to an NPC will have patches in it.

>>166889132
He does not have to complete lower loran at least, just get to layer 3 and buy the sinister chalice from the bath messenger. There is an uncanny version on a sinister with no additional rite.

Amanda if youre here, thanks so much for that hotdog fight!!

>>166886067
Because you can't PVP there without locking yourself out of the second half of the game. In NG+ you want to leave Cleric Beast, Paarl, Logarious, Laurence, Orphan, Celestial Emmisionary + Eribritas and especially Amygdala and WetNurse alive to maximise PVP and coop potential.

It's such a shame having 50+ insight didn't auto summon Bell Maidans and 80+ allow 2 invaders at once. Insight was the perfect way to do World Tendency type effects as well (since the only problem with WT was how ass-backwards it was to manipulate). More common invasions and harder enemies would have been the punishment of high insight, but the reward should have been higher item discovery (having it tied to Arc is stupid), and they should have also given almost every enemy in the game a chance to drop different kinds of gems, like in Chalice's. Garden of Eyes drop Beast/Kin hunter gems in Chalice's, there's no good reason they shouldn't in Byrgenwerth as well, same with Gargoyels and Nourishing gems, and Brainsuckers and flat arc gems.

Anyone need help with anything?

>>166889353
I actually didn't know this. Wish I did when I did an early BB run.

>>166889736
Yes I need help, I haven't played any other game besides Bloodborne in the past year for more then 10 minutes before quiting and switching back to BB

>>166889896
Have you tried dark souls 3?

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>>166889928
Literally just played it 1 hour ago and quit again at farron keep. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make a whole area slow down your movement AND poison you and then make the level a confusing fetch quest.

After I got through that shithole I gave up on abyss Watchers because I was way underleveled due to all the running past everytging I did because everything before the abyss watcher's fight and before Irithyl is boring as fuck.

I've been playing DaS3 in short ammunts for te oast months but it feels like I'll never geet to the good parts of the game. Does/will the DLC reedem it?

>>166890320
>Does/will the DLC reedem it?
The first one was the shortest DLC to date in the entire series.

It's one big area, probably the size of 1.5 normal souls areas. The whole thing can be comfortably finished in 3 hours. One boss is, quite literally, a regular NPC alongside an enemy you fight earlier in the DLC.

That said, the final boss is pretty cool, and there's a fun weapon for pyromancers.

>>166890320
>not reveling in the poison swamps

Miyazaki-san is disappointed in you

There's one in like every single soulseborne game

>>166890320
Ok farrons keep is easily the worst level in the game. I know it's a trudge but keep pushing. I absolutely love abyss watchers though. You really can't be underleveled for it. I regularly coop there with a lv 26 guy and a +3 sword and wreck him/them. You don't play on PC do you? I can coop right now. Anyway beat them and the game gets so much better. Ashes gets a lot of shit. It is short but I honestly believe the level design is too notch. You can invade/coop through the entire DLC in one shot if you do choose. It really lacks in the boss numbers but friede is amazing. I am highly anticipating the ringed city.

>>166890320
I'd wait till the next DLC to come out to decide. AoA was meh, really short and added a few cool weapons but nothing Bloodborne-tier. One boss was shit, the other was at least a bit difficult but mostly a Lady Maria copy with 3 health bars.

Any tips for a skill-based build looking to grab the Church Pick as quickly as possible? I'm using the Beastcutter right now.

>>166891946
The Beastcutter is primarily a STR weapon, so I wouldn't be using it for a SKL build. Try out the Saw Spear till then, as it makes a lot of the game ez mode, and demolishes Ludwig. You can rush the Saif too.

>>166891316
Nah sorry, ps4. Also, we're talking +1 weapon no offensive stats leveled up underlevel. I'm doing like 88 damage to the Abyss Watchers so I might need to go back and grind a bit and catch up on my levels, but just thinking about having to trudge through the catacombs and having to go back to cathedral of the deep for the doll makes me feel tired.

Why did they put all the cool areas after the shit areas?

You gotta slog through off brand Hemwick, two swamps in a row and a chalice dungeon rip-off before you get to the fun parts.

>>166892035
but I haaaate the saw spear

thanks though

>>166891946
Switch to Saif or Cane, Cuttah is for Strength.

>>166892112
Consider giving the Beasthunter Saif or the Threaded Cane a shot, then. I recommended the Saw Spear because it can carry you well until you get your Church Pick, and is particularly effective against Ludwig. But, you can use whatever you feel comfortable with, really.

>>166892103
I enjoyed the high wall, the village and the cathedral. Not so much the swamp. I don't know man if you don't like ds3 by then, then you probably don't like it. It is hugely influenced by bloodborne in most every way and the newest DLC looks straight out of bloodborne. All I can say is give it another chance. It's a good game.

>Old Hunter Queen Killer
He's at least 2 memes taken too far for my taste.

Sleep tight, /bbg/.

>>166894148
おはよう!

>>166894275
wut? He said he was going to bed.

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I've been stuck on Ludwig for two days now. I even resorted to summoning and I still can't kill him.

Why couldn't From have just added a way to get DLC weapons early? I just want the Kos Parasite already.

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>do first FRC
>get endlessly cucked by undead giant with cannon on the first floor

>>166894481
Do you have 10 vit or something?

>>166892320
The problem is that It's hugely influenced by Bloodborne in every way except the PC who still uses Dark Souls logic and movement.

>>166894606
25

>>166894627
do not reply to tripfags

>>166894627
level that shit up. You should have 30 or 40 minimum at this point.

>>166894730
high VIT is for bitches

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>first run was str, have reasonable challenge time but good fun, eventually beating most things
>do dlc and find whirligig
>the rest of the game is now PIZZA TIME
>go to ng+ maybe this will make it harder
>ITS STILL PIZZA TIME
Is this what its like having a waifu
I love my pizza cutter.

I will need to make more builds to try more weapons, but the fucking tricked mode is just too fun. The Vroom vroom, multi hit from jump and charged, the cheesy L2 that feels like cheating on certain things that it just stunlocks, the stagger on the R1's that bullies most bosses.

I'm in love.

>>166894775
It's not high; it's standard.

So how exactly do I use the wheel properly? I've got my 25/50 (actually, 23/40 right now, but I'm only level 71 so cut me some slck here), but it just doesn't seem to shred like I expected it to. Do I NEED to power it up with L2 to get the most out of it? I don't have very good gems for it yet, are they super necessary?

Do nourishing or elemental gems affect Tonitrus buff or LHMB beams? Or just the base elemental damage? Would +% be better than odd gems that give nominally higher elemental AR?

>>166895661
Good gems are necessary just like on any weapon

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>Hear a lot about Laurence
>Finally get to fight him
>Expect a fun but challenging fight
>Get an orange cleric beast with the same annoying autistic screeching as the first one
>Attacks can damn near one shot and have the most insane tracking of any souls boss I've ever fought
>mfw the boss so many people built for me was challenging purely of how cheaply designed he is.

I suppose its my fault for getting my hopes up.

Alright bbg pop quiz time!

1) which weapon is the best for Viscerals?

2) What is the offical name for Brick Trolls?

3) which non root-Dungeon boss has the highest hp in NG?

4) how many L2 attacks does the Rakuyo have?

5) how many weapons can you obtain before killing Shadows of Yharnam?

6) what is only effect listed in the guide that never appears as the primary effect of a gem?

7) what % damage increase do you get on Laurence after breaking a limb?

8) TRUE or FALSE: The Cathedral housing the resarch hall's position makes no logical sense when viewed from Hunters Nightmare

9) If you killed a wandering Beast Possesed Soul in a Pthumeru dungeon, what gem effect and shape would be most likely to drop.

10) Why is Lumpy the Lever Guardian named "Lumpy"

>>166895981
Are you sure you're not mixing up Laurence and Ludwig? Ludwig is the fun but challenging fight with an intense and satisfying transformation, Laurence is "Cleric Beast but On Fire"

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>>166895981
So basically, you're shit at the game, but rather than get good, you would rather blame the game and call it bad instead.

>>166896119
>how do you function in life without the ability to read

>>166896212
I meant weren't mixing up the two when getting hyped. I don't see people raving about how great Laurence's fight is very often.

>>166895994
Just started my second run,i'll take a shot. This won't be pretty.

>1) which weapon is the best for Viscerals?
Stake driver? IDK, it seems pretty useless for everything else.

>2) What is the offical name for Brick Trolls?
Brick trolls.

>3) which non root-Dungeon boss has the highest hp in NG?
Undead Giant seems pretty tanky.

>4) how many L2 attacks does the Rakuyo have?
Never actually found this one, is it Maria's weapon? At a guess, 5.

>5) how many weapons can you obtain before killing Shadows of Yharnam?
Well, now I think about it technically you can get into 3 of the 4 chalices before Shadows, so quite a few.

>6) what is only effect listed in the guide that never appears as the primary effect of a gem?
There's a guide?

>7) what % damage increase do you get on Laurence after breaking a limb?
This is a thing? Neat.

>8) TRUE or FALSE: The Cathedral housing the research hall's position makes no logical sense when viewed from Hunters Nightmare
True, isn't the DLC meant to be nonsensical and not fit together at all?

>9) If you killed a wandering Beast Possesed Soul in a Pthumeru dungeon, what gem effect and shape would be most likely to drop.
Fucked if I know, but you spelt possessed wrong.

>10) Why is Lumpy the Lever Guardian named "Lumpy"
Because he's lumpy.

>>166895809
They affect the beams and buffs, never go Odd/Flat over % for those two (unless it's secondaries on your Abyssals). Flat gems are really only good for Wheel and Kos Fist.

>some day the bloodborne servers will go down

>>166896690
And what, we'll lose some mildly amusing messages and mediocre PvP?

>>166896453
0/10 anon, you tried though which is nice.

> breaking limbs damage bonus
> that's a thing?

Yeah, large bosses like Cleric Beast, Amelia etc... have seperate hitboxes on each limb and head, if you do enough damage to a single one it "breaks" causing the boss to stagger and blood to spray everywhere. After this happens that limb takes increased damage until the boss "repairs" it (an animation usually with a red glow). Crippling a head has the same effect but also usually opens the boss up for a visceral, this is easiest to see on Amygdala, after you hit the head enough you get a visceral and all subsequent hits do bonus damage until Amy repairs it, which lets you start the process again.

>>166896780
what about co-op spelunking?

>>166895994
1. Cane.
2. Huntsman's Minion.
3. Dunno, maybe Bribri or Amy.
4. I'll guess 4, 2 if you only press L2 without using combos.
5. Don't feel like counting, pretty much every DLC weapon, BB, BoM, Claw, starters, both Spears, Wheel, Chicago, Reiter, Stake, Kirk, LHB, Toni, every gun that isn't Rosy.
6. Dunno, I'm guessing Open Foes.
7. Dunno, I'm guessing extra 50%.
8. False.
9. Dunno, I'm guessing a Radial Tempering or Fire.
10. Whoever found Lumpy was watching some show, got the name from someone in it I think.

>>166895994
>Lumpy the Lever Guardian
I have to ask.

What the fuck is this?

>>166897581
A Watcher in Lower Pthumeru layer 2 that drops decent cursed gems. Up to 20.6% Radial Temps and other stuff like Adepts that go a bit higher. Fairly early and can be farmed right after BSB/before Amelia.

>>166894481
literally just break his dangly limbs until the cutscene then hug his pelvis. Always hug his pelvis tbqh

>>166897382
1) Correct
2) correct
3) WRONG
4) 4 is correct
5) the answer I was looking for was "all of them", but i forgot to mention I was only counting Trick Weapons. Correct
6) WRONG, there's a "Finestrike" gem in the DLC
7) WRONG
8) true actually, Ludwigs arena is parallel (or near enough) to the Clocktower when you enter it from Hunters Nightmare. But the Research Hall is perpendicular to Ludwigs arena as you explore inside of it. Basically the inside of the Cathederal is 90 degrees off what the exterior model shows. But the skybox from Living Failures shows it re-aligned.
9) WRONG
10) correct enough, it was John Stewart clip on YouTube where he called a Fox News journalist "Lumpy" for some reason. I only posted that story once, I'm honestly shocked anyone answered it correctly.

5/10

>>166897936
>8) true actually

but you told this anon>>166896453
he got nothing right, but he said true...

THIS TEST IS A SHAM!

>>166897936
>5/10

I'll take it, I barely remembered the last one so I'll be surprised if anyone else knew the answer too. I would like to know what's the answers for 3, 6, 7, and 9.

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wtf the physical layout of things dont make sense in a lovecraft inspired game?

>>166898151
Oh, whoops

Other anon was right, but his explanation was wrong. I don't think it's intentional since all exterior views of the Cathederal have it facing one way, while if you actually saw the lev geometry it would face out over the sea visible on the left of Living failures.

Scores ammended to 1/10 and 6/10

>>166897936
How can you get the Burial Blade outside of NG+?

>>166898583
I think you can get it by doing chalice dungeons but you have to go really deep.

How do I cuck abhorrent beast in Ailing Loran? Using BoM, I hit and run him but his third phase is giving me hemorrhoids. His wind-kamehameha is a bit hard to dodge during third because he's always closing the gap with his pounce attack.

>>166898583
Eat cords, kill gerhman then use bold hunter's mark

>>166898660
Poison Knives help. Wait for an attack, dodge foward+left, get 1-3 hits, back off and repeat. Works for every phase. I don't think I've ever been hit by the AoE doing this.

>>166898583
> defeat BSB
> reach Lower Pthumeru and farm ritual blood 4 from Lumpy or a Bagman
> defeat Amelia
> meet patches, go to Lecture hall, then Frontier
> defeat Amygdala
> complete Ailing Loran
> redo the first layer a bunch to get enough Ritual Blood 5
> Enter Lower Loran
> reach Layer 3
> Buy Sinister Root chalice
> enter a glyph that contains Uncanny Burial Blade
> get 20% stamina rune and 30% clawmark while you are there
> if you can: defeat Loran Darkbeast and acsess all FRC loran glyphs which will let you farm 23% Physical Radials from Bone Ash Hunters and triangles from Beast Possessed Souls
> also do Defiled Pthumeru for more gems
> kill shadows in seconds

I did it at level 50 with Blades of Mercy not too long ago. Only Darkbeast was impossible.

>>166898857
Some anons really know this game like the back of their hand jeez

>>166898916
>ridiculing someone for knowing a game well

>>166898959
I'm sorry I didn't mean to come across that way. I'm genuinely impressed.

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Anyone wanna explore a brand new FRC with me?
Glyph: 8t9jgtb9
Pass: bbgfrc

what is the purpose of crushing vermin after you get madaras whistle? It doesn't seem to give any insight

>>166899358
New edgy gesture, League leaderboard.

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>playing through forbidden woods

goddamn these snakes

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>>166866614
are there any anime with the BB feel/aesthetic?

What starting weapon should I use? Threaded cane seems neat.

>>166900014
Depends on your build. Axe for Strength, Cleaver for Str-leaning Quality, Cane for Skill. There's a Spear in the first area that's like the Cleaver but is Skl-leaning Quality. Some say Cane is hard mode but it should carry you well enough.

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>>166899683
seinfeld

>>166900014
all are viable, saw and axe are most fun imo, axe r2 wrecks. when you beat the game look into bloodtinge builds, they're the most fun to play imo

Guys, which gems are best for pizza cutter? It's my first playthrough, I haven't figured out all the gems yet. Haven't event find most types probably.

Do I farm gems in the dungeons? I kinda haven't touched those. Only killed the first boss.

>scared of one reborn because of his intro so bold hunter my way out
>kill him solo in just 1 try
Why was i even scared

>>166900383
it's in the OP but whatever, run thru all pthumeru dungeons (youll need to do ailing loran for the bastard of loran item too i think) until you get to pthumeru ithyll, get the ritual items to make a fetid, rotted, cursed (FRC) pthumeru ithyll root chalice, after that you can search for other players chalices by glyph and wont have to farm materials for that anymore, most really high teir gems are in pthumeru ithyll. Check the OP google doc for lists of dungeon glyphs for the best gems, idk the best gem but the 27% damage ones are always good

>>166900383
Best gems are deep in the dungeons, there's a guide in the OP you can follow. The absolute best is 1 Heavy Abyssal and 2 27.2% Phys gems. You'll need 50 Strength for the Heavy, 25 Skill gives it a bit more damage. From the main game the best are Winter Lantern gems in the DLC near Orphan. They drop 22.3% Droplets.

>>166900679
>>166900547
Thanks, guys.

>>166900383
Absolute best is one Cursed Heavy Abyysal (+65 STR scaling, +15 flat damage) and two 27.2% physical gems.

But if you are working your way towards endgame just use the best physical gems you have. The best ones come from Merciless Watchers (the fat fucks in chalice dungeons), so kill every single one you see. There's a certain one in Lower Pthumeru who drops very powerful gems relatively early.

The best gems come from bosses, which you only get one shot at per dungeon, so you either have to remake the dungeon or savescum to farm the best drops.

Anyone up for Martyr?

BL 57, eu if that matters, pass is marty and ringing at fog gate.

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>>166867658
That's a poor demonstration of that weapon

>>166900914
Already got it.

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FINNNALY SOME ACTUALLY GOOD CLOTHES THAT DONT CLIP ON MY GUN

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getting my arse handed to me by defiled watchdog on my pure arcane build :(, quickstepping through bites and hitting the legs for 10 minutes isn't my idea of fun

>>166898916
It's called "gitting gud"

So i have to actually buy the weapon or do i just need to unlock it to acess the lost and uncanny versions?

>>166900410
>walk into the church to fight vicar
>that cutscene
>those screams and screeches

I almost left but I stayed and beat her on the first attempt

what does more damage:
50 arc fire converted whirligig saw with ideal autism gems or 50 str whirligig saw+bbp+fire paper with ideal autism gems

>>166901821
I just noticed how is she hiding her boop well she is completely flat here but you can see a small hill when wearing the yharnam hunter
Fucking fix it from i made a woman character to appreciate her woman figure dont fucking do this to me

>>166901410
what fucking weapon is that? is it only that damaging with high arcane?

>>166901821
>good

>>166902295
Pile Bunker. Quality weapon with ridiculously high motion value on the charged attack.

>>166902228
for vs beasts

>>166902326
I bet you like yolo caps and oversized running shoes fucking faggot

>>166902452
>for vs beasts
50 str with beasthunter gems

>make 25/50 str/arc build
>get my somewhat autistic gems
>theyre not quite korean but close
>go to fc
>still get my ass handed to me
it doesn't hurt at all :^) :^)
:^)
:^) :^)
:^)
it hurts a lot :^(

>>166901901
nose bop

>>166902898
Stop being shit at the game and go back from where you came.

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>>166901901
>quickstepping through bites and hitting the legs for 10 minutes isn't my idea of fun
Lucky for you that's not how you should fight Hotdog.

>>166902228
The latter option.

>>166902898
Arc builds are the second or third most powerful archetype. If you got beat by Blt or Skl builds don't worry about it.

>>166903356
huh, guess i should have got LHB first, not ventured into the DLC

>>166903356
> Arc builds are the second or third most powerful archetype. If you got beat by Blt or Skl builds don't worry about it.

Not him, but where do poison builds fall on that tier ladder? Because I got memed on hard today.

hey guys, would anyone mind giving me just a little advice on a powder keg build? I plan on going 40 vit, 20 end, 50 str, 25 skill, and base bloodtinge and arcane (7 and 6), using mainly the boom hammer, whirligig and stake driver. my questions are: can you get away with only 25 skill for the stake driver, since it's the only quality weapon in this lineup? and is it worth using the cannon and gatling gun with base bloodtinge?

>tfw ran out of fun areas
Why is post-Rom so boring and depressing

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I've done about 3 playthroughs, is there a meme glass cannon build like red tearstone magic shit from dark souls?

>>166903718
not a fromsoft game if it doesn't drop a bit in quality around halfway through
>>166903869
99 arcane