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Hag Edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game.
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Box of Goodness:
http://pastebin.com/9TskMz7d
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>>166776785
>>166776807

FOR XTH
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Remember swordfriends, ALWAYS bet on Monika.
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Do you guys they might reroll to steam version in the update?
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>>166776785
Eris is CUTE!!!!
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>>166776897
Monika is NOT a slav
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>>166776785
shit op
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SMILE

PROTECTED
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Feetpussy wife
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You are cordially invited to ____post elf
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Gross OP
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>>166777023
SMILE

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>>166777054
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burd
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Papa, tell me a story about when dragon was good
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>>166776897
She's a staple on my control list since the first week or so.
I don't have to bet on her, she just delivers.
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I'm tired of Poxnora, Eternal, HS and Duelyst. Considering playing this now so I would appreciate it if any active players answered me these questions:

>Do you see this game still alive 2 years from now?
>What's the main appeal?
>How's the learning curve? Can you stop being pummeled as a newb within 2 weeks?
>What's the cost of entrance and approx cost for a full collection?
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>>166777216
dragon was never good son
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>>166777109
>not protecting your waifu's smile
shameful
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>>166777317
Why greentext?
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>>166777371
Why not?
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>>166777317
no

play YGO instead
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>>166777334
>Implying I would have a shit waifu like Dorke
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Medusa buffs when?
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>>166777447
Duel network is kill and I don't want to play card games with normies IRL.
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>>166777334
>having dorkte as ur waifu
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>>166777317
>>Do you see this game still alive 2 years from now?
It'll be dead in the West, but thanks to Japan it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

>What's the main appeal?
Hearthstone with less RNG and anime tiddies.

>How's the learning curve? Can you stop being pummeled as a newb within 2 weeks?
It's simpler than Hearthstone. Extremely easy to pick up and master.

>What's the cost of entrance and approx cost for a full collection?
No entrance cost if you consider one or two top tier decks (as of a current meta) a good entrance. However you'll have to do dailies every day and spend quite a bit of money to build a full collection. We're in our third expansion and it's going to get harder to catch up.
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>>166777317
>Do you see this game still alive 2 years from now?
No.
>What's the main appeal?
Evolve mechanic and cute anime styled cards
>How's the learning curve? Can you stop being pummeled as a newb within 2 weeks?
If you can't there's something mentally wrong for you
>What's the cost of entrance and approx cost for a full collection?
Who knows
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>>166777109
>tfw still feeling bad for that anon that dusted forte
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>>166776785
>Haven cancer makes a OP
>Changes the pastebin to reddit shit

And then people try to argue havenfags arent the biggest cancer around
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>>166777497
Hope she gets Beast dominator treatment
7pp spell that summons her and adds 2 Medusa's gaze to your hand or something stupid like that
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>>166777216
They ramped a lot, played Fafnir, and then used 9/11 Dragon or Forte/Urd.
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>>166777216
t6 satan.

Only heard about that
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did we get rid of the official friends list I can't find it in the OP.

I was going to update my rank
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>>166777681
Nobody argues that though. It's a well known fact.
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>>166777681
get a trip so i can filter you dumb daria shitter
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>>166777317
>Do you see this game still alive 2 years from now?
Yeah.
>What's the main appeal?
For most people here probably artwork style, what hooked me up was the game design though.
>How's the learning curve? Can you stop being pummeled as a newb within 2 weeks?
The game is pretty simple, especially if you come from another cardgame. Also the ingame menus are pretty good, whenever you don't understand what a mechanic does you can click on the card and you get a popup with all the information, and if there's something you don't get from that pop up, you can click on it for further explanation.
>What's the cost of entrance and approx cost for a full collection?
I have no idea. Game is pretty generous to new players though.
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Whiners are paid by tears or shitting in the keyboard?
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>>166777838
The friend's list has been dead for months, Anon. We don't encourage that kind of circlejerk here anyways, just post code if you want a match and add each other after.
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>>166777317
>Do you see this game still alive 2 years from now?
Will probably still have a smaller player base in the west but keep going full force in Japan.

>What's the main appeal?
Cute girls, eastern-looking artstyle and the evolution system.

>How's the learning curve? Can you stop being pummeled as a newb within 2 weeks?
It's pretty easy to grasp the basics of each class after doing their story mode and playing a couple matches in unraked or against AI which also gives you loads of gold

>What's the cost of entrance and approx cost for a full collection?
Entrance cost is none, you can reroll as many times as you want using a emulator or phone. But to have a full collection you are going to have to pay quite a bit given how we are into the 2nd expansion already and there is another coming within a couple months.
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>>166777942
>another coming within a couple months
Gotta need citation
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>>166777216
Last July/August
>Dragon was everywhere
>People complained ramping was OP and that dragon could do turn 7 satan
>Haven was still the biggest cancer and fucks you didnt want to find in ranked because they'd drag the match to turn 7+ guaranteed
>Purgatory was the hottest meme
>Otohime was amazing

And now
>Dragon is reduced to H-HEAR THE DRAGON'S ROAR memes
>Dragon ramps up to concede
>Haven is still cancerous fucks you don't want to play against
>Purgatory memes are easily countered
>Rest in peace Otomeme
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>>166778136
Not him but if I remember it right, cygames said on an interview that they planned to release an expansion every three months.
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>>166777317
1) doubt it can live 2 years, hearthlikes have grotesquely limited design space
Look at how putrid hearthstone became after 2 years, and SV devs are releasing more content and higher-effort content
2) hearthlike with a ladder thst permanently rewards you for climbing, which also contributes to good community norms. All non-new players are at ranks that don't involve winstreaks and require positive winrate to climb, so the baseline level of effort and discussion is high. The devs make a good effort at seeming like they know what they're doing
3/4) learning curve is fine, you can spawn in with a single deck of any archetype (aggro/midrange/control/combo) and not spend much time scraping for cards (until you want to branch out to another deck). Learning the ropes should be simple for a card game vet.
No clue how much a full collection would cost to buy
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>>166778136
Here you go buddy.
https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/744860137131642880
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>>166777323
Standard, you negro.
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>>166778181
Haven was straight garbage before DE. If you played a good deck back then you'd win most of the time, it'd just take longer. I remember memeing on Haven players with PtP Snowmen though, sometimes even with PtP Sword. Around August when they gave 2nd player two card draw was when everyone started catching onto DS and complained about it too.
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>>166778385
https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/824708532406607872

This really made me think.
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>>166777317
>Do you see this game still alive 2 years from now?
https://mmos.com/news/digital-ccg-hearthstone-earns-395m-2016-shadowverse-100m
After gaining so much money in half a year, it is very likely to last several years. And the developers haven't shown signs of being as retarded as Team5.
>What's the main appeal?
On top of waifus/husbandos, the card art and voices including the English ones are pretty good. The evolution system also makes it distinct enough from HS's gameplay.
>How's the learning curve? Can you stop being pummeled as a newb within 2 weeks?
If you have played HS, it shouldn't take you long to learn this game.
>What's the cost of entrance and approx cost for a full collection?
The game is very generous gold and packs for new players, you can have a couple of strong decks in less of a month.
As a f2p player, I've been playing for 4 months and I don't have a full collection yet but I have the cards for 4 T1-T2 decks and a decent amount of cards for others.
No idea of how hard you have to whale for a full collection.
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>>166778715
Kys dubcuck.
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>>166778865
Why do you want me to kiss my sister?
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>>166777504
>What is YGOPro
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>>166777892
>Le Daria bogeyman
Go complain on your Tumblr about how oppressed you are, Haventumor
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>>166776785

So what do we do when the pastebin is not the one from previous thread? We can't really tell the mods to delete it or whatnot.
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>>166779040
>not kissing your sister
do you even incest
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>>166779040

because she won't be there forever

while you're at it call your mother and father and say hi to them
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>>166779130
>he thinks Konami will let that live longer than 2 months
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>>166779040
Because she's cute.
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>>166778865
Fast instead of worthless discussion what movie would you watch with Vampy?
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>>166779184
Just realized OP is a faggot and put a discord link in there.
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>>166778715
>the english voices that were thrown together by 5 people and a $20 budged are pretty good
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The things I see in ranked
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>>166776785

Why do you guys love to sabotage the OP with your shit?
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please, concede!

19041
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>>166778686
Winning rates are irrelevant. I don't care if Haven had 0% win rate, haven fights were easily the most annoying fights you could ever have in vanilla because nearly every fuck was running the same sun satan deck and had the same curve.

Stall decks or teams are never fun to play against because the enemy's intention is to just grind you down until you lose the ability to fight back or the will to fight back. And if you were too slow and they got to satan then have fucking fun dealing with his Satan deck and them topdecking the stuff they need to win in 1 turn.

I personally hated the meta back in vanilla because your options were Early satan and his wards feat. rowen, Worship the sun satan, Ward maid, Elf from hell and Solitaire rune that removes everything you play and then tosses a shift in your face.

I feel like the meta is a lot better after the two expansions. It still has issues and questionable shit but its definitely a lot more fun and addicting than what it was before.
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34364 pls concede
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>>166779184
The same thing we used to do when people messed with the thread before: we shit the entire thread up with complaints and shitposts.
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>>166779535
thanks isaboobs
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>>166779502
thank you, eris!
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>>166779392
So this was Discord's plan all along

to kill the old OP so they could sneak their shitty ERP chatroom into the new one
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41378
Concede onegai
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>>166779816
Thank you!
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How is temple defender balanced?
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>>166779689
All they do is try to turn the general into shit, just like leddit.
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>Heal slut tried to stall the match
Two can play at that game
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>made tempo rune
>won 5 ranked for dailies/20 rupees
>the profile screen lists 6 ranked wins with rune

literally wtf, i have won exactly 5 and had 0 of them before

also aggro shadow feels much better, because hordes of aggro bats with some sword and shadow are scary when you don't get a perfect hand
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>>166779984
3 cost 2/2
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>>166779984
I don't know. normally i need to throw 2 clarke or 2 golem to get rid of that bad designed card.
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>>166780113
It's a bug that's been there for a long time.
Some people have 1k+ games as a single craft and it still shows them having played 1 match as something else, even though they never queued up ranked with it.
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>>166779984
It only punishes retards.
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im new whats the counter to daria decks?
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>>166780161
classic daria shitter getting mad at Haven chemoing your ass
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>>166780365
Cblood,Sun seraph and fast decks
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>>166780365
daria
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>>166780270
Ah man, the first time I saw it played against me I assumed it would only block the first instance of damage. So I dropped a big Fire Chain on it while he had other stuff on board, definitively learned my lesson that day.
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>>166780365
Will them to brick
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>>166780365
Control Blood and Haven
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>>166780378
>havenfag
>calling anyone a shitter

kys.
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>>166777317
>maybe
>anime tiddies
>yes
>$0. Just reroll if you're not satisfied with your free cards.
Go back to OJ thread Poppo
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>>166777317
>What's the cost of entrance and approx cost for a full collection?
Quite a bit but you really do not need to have all that many of the legendary and gold cards to make good decks for the majority of the classes. Your silvers and bronzes will be 90%+ complete in like two months of play.
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>>166780365
Chemocraft
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>tfw ladder anxiety because I play on bad network connection
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>>166780746
No one likes your cancer craft
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>>166780861
I like this chemo craft.
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>>166780615
VERY mad, I see
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>tfw playing Haven in this meta
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>>166780746
>Brain cancer calling itself chemo to prostate cancer
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>>166780861
I do.
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>>166780920
>tfw
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>>166780746
You are doing god's work anon, keep at it!
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12210910/


Vote in this poll or you will be themised
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>>166780746
>being more cancerous= chemo
sick logic havenbabs
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>>166780746
Havencraft is even more cancerous than the shitty brick witch.
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People call her a hag, but look how seductive her legs are.
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>>166781012
You can call removunga
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>>166781197
I would enter her temple if you know what I mean.
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>>166780365
Daria only has soft counters, all the soft counters to Daria have hard counters.
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>>166780746
>A3
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>>166780746
Got a decklist senpai?
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>haven
>chemo

love this meme
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>>166781197
needs a bigger resolution
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>>166781197
>tfw waiting for winter
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Should I dust Merlin if I never want to touch dshift?
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>>166781358
It's just Haven nu-males trying to make themselves feel better for using their crutch
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>>166781389
I would love you, if you could find me one, I looked for about 20 minutes.
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>>166781075
What happened to all the bloodkin in this thread? Did everyone jump ship when batggro became fotm?
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>>166781197
I like her design I just wish she doesn't wear that stupid hat
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>>166781414
None of these are Eris, why do you keep changing the filenames?
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>>166781348
here >>166773540

>>166781345
just went to AA with this deck actually
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>>166781197
There is not enough anal porn of her.
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>>166781595
I will never abandon vampy.
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>>166781601
Stupid hats make the woman, no stupid hat=no buy.
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>>166781672
Forgot pic
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The entire reason I come to this general is to drink daria shitter tears

keep up the fight against cancer based PURE-sisters, we're doing God's work
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>>166781595
I've been Haven and Control Blood since before de.

I guess I'm actually hybrid blood now, but it's close enough
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Don't know if anyone posted this yet but Para-chan is streaming on openrec again, #1 Master last month. Using DS.

https://www.openrec.tv/live/KBO7uXguzwL
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>>166781595
They are all dead by now.
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>>166781672
This list is okay, but if you want to climb to masters more smoothly check out my list. I got as high as 8.5k master with it. This works better against daria, and other control match ups. But you will lose to roach.
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>>166781595
>aggrobat dropped to tier 3

the bandwagoners left
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>>166781595
i love this image so much and im not even a vampyfag
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DShift is not gone, just locked up there at 14k Masters.
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>>166781919
>Humpty Dumpty
This is the best list and no one can prove me wrong.
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>>166781747
Source, reverse image finds nothing.
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>>166781896
Kill all Vampys
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>>166781919
>solitaire haven is a thing now

also how do you deal with aggro stuff?
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>>166781978
me too
but im a vampyfag
its an incredibly cute image either way
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would dragon-craft become viable if bahamut was their craft exclusive? the fact that everyone has access to the best dragon is kinda bullshit
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>>166781919
It's like Haven version of JO deck
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>>166782105
Humpty and all the healing, is usually enough, obviously you lose if shadow sword draw perfectly though.
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>>166781960
tfw lost 3 of 4 games vs aggrobats with tempo rune today

fucking bats i swear, one was ambling -> yurius -> veight... another managed to get second vampy + evolve + vamp fortress in one turn turning the battle hard (6 points of burn), screw that
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>>166782120
from what I've seen it might as well be. I don't think I've seen one outside of dragoncraft in a while.
Maybe haven would run it, but it seems like it needs a ramp to work the best
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>>166782120
Bahamut ins't a Dragon in itself I think, I'm almost sure he's the same deal as Dragon Age's Archdemon.
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>>166781919
humpty is meta? is this the day i've been waiting for?
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>>166782085
I will spoonfeed you this time, but next try looking up on pixiv. All you had to do is change the id at the end with the one in the filename.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58986458
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>>166782085
The filename contains the Pixiv ID.
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>>166782120
Baha ain't a dragon, it just looks like one, it's closer in nature to folks like Luci or Satan that stuff like Genesis.
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>>166782257
B A S E D D O G G O
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>>166782291
So these are pixiv ids? Thanks anon, I will remember that next time.
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>>166782257
Well since there isn't much minions in the deck I use him to cycle my evo points, while not leaving a piercing rune target. This is very powerful vs D-shift and rune. He clears shadow reapers as well. Also late game if you combine him with one scripture he is a quasi themis, since its usually one big minion and a bunch of small.
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>>166781595
I've been playing with roaches a bit, but I'll never abandon Vampy. Acrobats is still the funnest.
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>>166782242
A lot of Control decks play it.
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>>166782242
Over the past week, I've seen it used in every craft except for Forest and Shadow.
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How do I into aggro forest, that doesn't degrades into otk roach?
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>>166782243
>>166782349
Bahamut is the KING of dragons.
Have you never played a Final Fantasy?
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>>166777225
I fucking love this image
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>>166781473
I tried but this is the biggest one I could find, but it's cluttered with text and I'm shit at PS.
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>>166782242
>He hasn't played a control matchup where you drop bahamuts back to back
You ain't seen anything kid.
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>>166782120
>dies to every removal
>help haven break their amulets faster
>literally useless if mordecai duplicates himself

He is overrated as fuck. Dragoncraft wouldn't be any different if he were exclusive
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>>166782669
just play tempo forest
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>>166782670
Yeah buddy, you might not want to bring lore from other franchises into this, here Baha is a divine janitor made to nuke civilizations once they get too uppity.
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Is it just me, or are mirror matches shit? It often depends on who goes first / who draws better.
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>>166782741
>3 scenarios out of the <infinite amount> available in this game
confirmed useless
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>>166782792
>Needs to 2 more Tias and Lisas
I'm fucked
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>>166782695
I'll take it, thank you so much.
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>>166782831
just gotta believe in the heart of the cards
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Please post dirtrune decks
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>>166782630
>>166782664
>>166782734
I don't know what I'm missing then.
At least haven't seen anything at rank AA0-1. Am I still too far in the bush league?
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>>166782695
>>166782885
There's this one also, but white bg.
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>>166782820
Is this from RoB the other game or something? Who decided to make him look like a dragon?
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Give me ONE good reason to get vampy instead of 5 booster packs
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>>166783002
This is all RoB lore, nigga.
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>>166782956
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>>166782963
Probably. On AA3 every blood player I meet runs like 2 of him. Then there is also dirt rune that tends to run 1-2, Sword is the same.
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>>166782831
what else do you expect from a literal MIRROR MATCH
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>>166782836
>pff the chance of your enemy having removal is like 1/infinity
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>>166782956
My personal only played in unranked because i'm too afraid lost points.
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>>166782831
>It often depends on who goes first
Yeah. This is the thing that really triggers me. Mirror matches emphasize how imbalanced going first/second is if you're playing one of the classes with automatic 2 for 1 evolution cards.
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Aww yeah!! Today is a lucky day!!1
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>>166783204
Not him but have you played control vs control lately?
They very often comes down to Baha/Odin smackdowns.
Having Bahamut avaiable for Dragon only would give them an edge over a lot of other control decks by default.
Not that I agree with Baha being a dragoncraft only card though.
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>>166783365
Daria mirror is like 42/58 for going first/second
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>>166782956
It's probably bad but I've won a couple times with it at aa2.
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Need more battles to get more rupies, help me (and help yourself if you still don't get them), we just gotta play a match with no quitting, that's all!

spam emotes if you want an easy win!

66531
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>>166783448
50% of that pack is Shadow. Play Shadowcraft anon.
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>>166783301
pluto is like one of the worst legos though
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>>166783030
Vampy is confirmed to give 60% of winrate if someone give more than 7 damage to you is impossible to not masturbate right way
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Can someone post a roach elf deck that's viable in AA rank?
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>>166783749
r u ok
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>>166783706
But I don't have any Cerberus ;_:
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Should I try to make a satan deck or another albert for my csword deck? Make decisions for me /svg/
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>>166782956
Absolutely do not build dirtrune

40% of your games are autolosses and the rest consist of struggling against arbitrary limitations
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>>166783630
Thank you!
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>>166783981
Satan if you want to meme
Albert if you want the best legendary
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>>166781473
>>166782981
This one is even bigger, I found it in the oficial twitter. The trick is to add ":orig" at the end of the image's URL. Like this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjkbEABUUAAG4ZF.jpg:orig
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>>166783528
it's bad because you don't run the best 4 drop, other than that it seems alright.
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>>166784318
Thanks chemo-bro here a Blonde Bust Girl for you
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>>166784318
>297KB
Please no.
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WE ESPORTS NOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ0LKQNa_dc
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>>166784427
>best 4 drop
which is?
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>>166783320
>>166783528
I dont understand why dirt rune lists exist without 3x gem golem, He is a literal win condition vs D-shift and Roach, if played properly.
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>>166784014
i wonder who could be behind this post
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>>166784427
He have levi wich is better than all 4pp in this game and is only 2
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>>166783528
I cut fate's hand and put in goblins because I would constantly have to play it unboosted and all your 2 drops are op in dirt rune. But I'm not an expert or anything.
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>>166784625
I almost exclusively play seraph, and trust me I win most of my match ups vs dirt rune, because I out draw them.
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>>166784559
>4 million yen prize

I wish I'm Japanese.
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>>166784568
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>>166784529
It's not my fault, it's the intern's.
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>>166784732
weeb slut
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>>166784680
You might be onto something but having fate's hand when you drop satan can save your life. Being able to draw 2 apocalypse cards is amazing, although it doesn't happen often enough, so I might consider your changes.

Thanks for the input anon.
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Anyone watching that JCG SV thing on stream?
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>>166784798
I don't blame you. I blame Cygames.
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Would giving the game a deck size range from 40 cards minimum to 60 cards max be a good option?
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>>166784949
If they did this haven would become the strongest deck in the game by far, second to dirt rune.
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>>166784559
>tfw not japanese.
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>>166785109
On the other hand, Daria would be shit.
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>>166784949
No, no it wouldn't.
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>>166784924
Watching it now. Last tournament of the season so it's spread out over 2 days too in case people don't know.
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>>166784949
Just make a card that do it for dragoon pls more support for discard dragon
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>accidentally banishes my seraph

wow havencraft is hard
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I can't believe this card just won me the game.
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>>166783528
Replace Warlock by a third Professor and it's really good. Not a big fan of Fate's Hand in this deck but it works fine enough i guess.
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>>166784949
People always minimize deck size for consistency. The only reason anybody wouldn't do that is for deck searching cards or some deck out cancer and I don't see either of those being worth it.

>>166785109
Do you have a specific abuse case in mind or do you think current seraph lists would somehow go god mode just because of amulet searching?
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>can't use execute to pop my own amulets.

L A M E
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>>166784924
which stream? is it on twitch?
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>>166785252
Discard Dragon needs more discard this card and it does X.
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>>166785597
OpenRec
https://www.openrec.tv/live/ioGRuUbgdgK
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>OTK Elf vs. Dragon

JUST

https://www.openrec.tv/live/ioGRuUbgdgK
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>>166785547
>>166783528
Oh wait, i just noticed that you don't run Scrap Golem, literally why?
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>>166785597
Both nico and openrec, don't know about twitch
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>>166785560

>The only reason anybody wouldn't do that is for deck searching cards or some deck out cancer and I don't see either of those being worth it.

You forgot memes.
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>>166785597
Most likely on openrec
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>>166785560
Let me put it this way, dwarf and prism would be the strongest cards in the game.
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>>166784924
>You can see both hands now
What a time to be alive
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>>166785575
>cant target own followers/amulets with any destroy effects
L A M E
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>feel sad after every lose in ranked
I take this game way too seriously.
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>>166785693
I took it out because it was clogging up the board in a lot of occasions, maybe it was due to me playing badly.

Should I put it back in? What you think I should take out?
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>>166784697
Yeah, you sure do.
I play Dirt Rune almost all day and I don't remember the last time I lost to pure Seraph.
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>>166784014
I've never had such long winstreaks than with Dirt aside from my beginner days. Your deck must be really bad or something.
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>>166785748
I doubt it. Any change you make so it's less likely you draw your 2 drops lategame makes it more likely you brick early and makes it less likely you draw your card search in the first place.
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>heavencraft deck
>seraph
>heavencraft deck
>seraph
>heavencraft deck
>seraph
>heavencraft deck
>seraph
>heavencraft deck
>seraph
>heavencraft deck
>seraph

how's this different than daria again?
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>>166784014

t. Seraph
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>>166784796
You know there is a reason why Sword dropped Fencer right? Remi/Rami is simply not good anymore. Also, you can't afford to play 3 evolve reliant followers, they'll just be dead draws in the late game and you'll get fucked.
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>>166785967
Then they were not using my list, and are probably using a bloated less focused list, dirt sucks with draw.
my list >>166781919
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>that OTK
h-hear
>>
Is the stream loading to you guys?
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>>166786115
Is called ''fallacy of the maturity of chances"
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>>166784949
Magic The Gathering has 60 cards since at least 1/3 of the deck is devoted to resources.

I feel the removed the lands so you don't get mana/resource screwed if you got fucked with draws.
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>>166786115
It's an established cancer so people are more invested in being its internet defense force.
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Roaches of Fairness and Balanced OTK
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>>166786239
switch to old players
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>>166786239
It's fine for me, try changing the quality settings maybe?
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>>166786157
Most sword still uses floral except aggro. Usually its 3x floral + 2/3 jeno/amelia
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>>166785895
Scrap saves your ass a lot against aggro and it's an 1pp earth sigil which is always great. I'd cut one or two Unica/Teachings.
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>>166786229

the fact that it's possible to 20-0 someone with just 7 mana and the right cards/enough evolves makes me feel a little better about investing in OTK roach
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>>166786229
Wait roach wins?
I stopped watching since dragon has nice ramp, played satan.
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>>166786406
Yes took out his full hp on turn 8
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>>166785597
/japanesports
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>20 damage in one turn

fuck elf seriously
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>in this night all B shitters in this thread will learn why Daria is not the true cancer
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>need to win 1 shadowcraft for quest
>queue up mr bones deck
>every opponent is havencraft
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>20 damage turn 8

just play wards lmao
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>>166786530
>Scrap golem turn 1
>Red hot turn 2

EVERY TIME
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>>166786162
I don't see how that list stops Dirt from petrifying all your Seraphs.
>dirt sucks with draw
Against Seraph you just spend all evolve points on Dwarf and Merlin (if you play her) to get to your Petrifications and you just auto-win because Seraph has a terrible time winning with followers. I don't know how you get your wins against Dirt, the people you play against must be terrible with the deck.
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>>166785575
>What is Skullfane???
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Around elves watch yourselves!
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>>166786465
Can it be watched again?
I want to see OTK. I can't pull it off without damaging the opponent to at least 14-16 hp
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>>166786530
>Deck is running Apprentice Alchemist and Altered Fate
>Momposting about it

Fucking kek
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>>166786792
Free vials.
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>>166786530
Were you praying for him not pulling any veteran alchemists?
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>>166786787
Play me in 5 matches, if you win all 3/5, you have made your point. If you add odin, then your cheating since most dirt rune doesnt run that.
43396
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>otohime and sage commander
nice

>>166786838
he did 0 cost gobu 2 0 cost fairies 1 nature's guidance a fairy and then triple roach + evo
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>>166786894

Doesn't every aggro deck do that against dirtrune?
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>>166786936
spectate pls
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>>166786936
Sure thing. I don't really care if I am proved wrong.
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>>166786936
Sorry i was trying to expectate ignore the first guy
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Which one of these qts do I pick? I'm a shitter
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>>166786843
Nothing wrong with Apprentice.
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>>166787113
>>
>got outskilled by OTK dragon

Cygames does it again!
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>>166787113

shadow is the safer option
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JUST USE THEMIS BRO
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I've beaten 5 solo games and claimed my free cards. Am I ready for ranked now?
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>>166787113
Shadow is the strongest t2, forest is actually the worst in t2
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>>166787145
My cute daughterwife
>>
>clarke
>clarke
>two 0 cost ogler
>on turn 4
sick
>>
I'm going to fap to Vampy and no one can stop me!
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>>166783528
-2 teaching of creation
-1 price of magic
-1 veteran alchemist
-1 ancient alchemist
+3 remi and rami
+1 crafy warlock
+1 scrap iron

this was my take on your list, it's working well for me so thanks for the reference anon!
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>>166786936
Still waiting, too bad would of been fun.
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>>166787179
Go ahead my man, you will probably be okay even if you don't know the cards that are in your deck.
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>>166787179
In low ranks you are dueling against literally brainded roachs.
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>>166786838
0 cost x3, nature's guidance, roach x3 + evo is 7pp OTK.

You need an empty board and a really lucky game to have the right hand for it but it's possible.
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>>166787145
>>166787148
>>166787191
help
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>>166787192
uhhhhhhhh, that's my daughterwife, back off???
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>>166787293
Baha.

You should use the sheet in OP
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>>166787293
Right :^)
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>>166787248
Thank you very much for the suggestion, will play a couple matches before bed with those in place.

It's always good to see others playing dirtrune and the discussions always bring something new to my knowledge.
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Ding Dong with over 500 million attack! Where's your god now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4ePS8e0ppw
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Elf off by 1pp. If only he kept one may back then
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>>166786936
Can you guys remake with spectate
Also, why would Control decks NOT run odin, he's hella important RoB ever since Bahas started running rampant and is extremely important in haven/neptits matchups.
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>>166787583

He could've tried to topdeck something like a snipe.
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>>166787649
Petrify my friend
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>>166787583
Never thought I'd be cheering for a Daria to win
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>>166787259
>>166787262
Ok I'm ready to be raped.
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>>166787583
If he kept that 1 elf, he would had a chance?
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>>166787725
Yea and you want to be able to use petrify as removal too, and not just save it for big guys like baha/morde/seraph etc.
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>>166787571
I love Ding Dong!
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>>166787734
>>166787685
I thought he would have tried using guidance on a fairy for another roach or a 2nd guidance.
>>166787782
He was off by 1pp for lethal
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d-daria is b-balanced guys, it b-bricks!
>>
holy fuck all that burn
>>
I have 0 Urds, and I run Storm Haven, Shadow and Face Dragon. Should I craft 3? Or is 2 sufficient for most of these lists?
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>>166788012
I-it bricks all the time and if you don't draw Daria you instantly lose.
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>>166788042
2 is all you need
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>>166786843
i suppose it was ptp
>>
God, why that guy bringing trash sword deck with 3 Floral and 3 Otomeme to fucking tourney. Daria bricked hard and he still lost.
>>
That Sword bricking
>>
this sword brick LOL
>>
oh god that brick
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>that sword hand
fucking lol
>>
We didn't need the reminder that midsword is dead.

Yet, here we are.
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>>166788108
maybe otohime is his waifu
or floral
or sage commander
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Daria just all fucking day
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Just play followers on curve to win :^)
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Thankfully, Otohime was no where near this mess.

Otohime has not been disgraced in this match.
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>>166788315
meantime dirtrune hinders my face dragon dailies
gimme your dorothy instead, i either win or lose fast
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>Raw sage commander
Control sword fucking sucks lad. Roach OTK didn't even need Roach to win.
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>this fucking swordshitter feeding people wins with Sage Commander
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>>166788321
that's literally all you need to do, but first, you have to learn how to mulligan
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>>166788042
Generally 3 for Shadow, 2 for the rest.
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>>166788468
That ain't control sword buddy
That's a time traveller playing DE decks in RoB
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>opponent misplays
>never gets punished because of bad draw rng >wins the match

I'm sick of this shit. is there even a digital ccg that make it easy to punish players based on their misplays or does it all come down to draw rng?
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>>166788468
It was midrange. Either way Midrange is dead now and that brick happens sometimes because the deck is made up of a bunch of 6 cost cards.
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>>166788220
>>166788216
>>166788203
To be fair his deck is really bad. Daria went first, didn't have Levi and Daria, forced to use 4 PP Piercing Rune and somehow he lost that match.
>>
Hai
>Hai
Hai
>Hai
Hai
>Hai
Hai
>Hai
Hai
>Hai

___HAI!___
>>
Which stream you guys are watching?
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>>166788636
https://www.openrec.tv/live/ioGRuUbgdgK
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>>166788543
does face dragon use urds? i thought it was mostly ramp
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>>166788586
Duelyst had a nice idea when it was in beta.
Instead of drawing one card at a turn you draw two.
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>>166788042
They are playable without urd
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>>166788586
>opponent took a risk
>it paid off

Perspective.
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>>166788468
It's just midrange sword with frontguard.
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>>166788660
Thanks.
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>>166788690
I have been but I'm wanting to optimise now.

>>166788672
I just got beat by a guy who Erded his Forte for 10 instant face damage and it made me decide it was finally time to fork out the vials.
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>>166788680
how did it go to shit?
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>>166781919
Replacement for love gospel? I only have 2
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>>166788660
it's on twitch too
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>>166788716
>missed lethal
>taking a risk
???
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>>166788042
I use 2 for my Nep deck but this is because I run 3 Mordecais and none of the meme tier last words stuff like lurching corpse or Attendant of the Night. I do use Hell's Unleasher and Khawy.
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>>166788780
well ramp runs forte too
urd just looks kind of slowish for face dragon imo
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>>166788672
Ramp uses Urd, Face doesn't because you can't use her without ramping. If someone leaves your Forte alive in Face you've most likely won with or without Urd anyway.
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>>166788631
Ehhhhh
Ehhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>166788791
wait, isn't love gospel free vials
healing followers are better
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>>166788586
>>166788680
its still on the better end of cardgames since you can mulligan 1 card from your hand every turn, really reduces brick turns

too bad the designers are aggro loving morons
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>>166782956

wildcard

feel free to tinker about it
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>>166787830
You can't run Odin in Dirt. The deck is slow enough already
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Why are people playing rogue's creed sword
Who spread the meme that this was a good idea
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>>166788783
They decided that having most decks run a lot of 2 cost drops instead of 4-5 cost was bad and trashed that system in favor of draw one + recycle one per turn.

But if you mean the game in general, it's because the devs are retarded.
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>>166782956
PtP Dirt is far and away better than Juno Dirt. Would recommend for the climb.
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>>166789023
>Still posting this list
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How do I into conjuring force snowmen?
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>>166789023
D3?
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>get to A0
>no more easy 5-10 game win streaks
>5 game lose streak in ranked
>go play unranked
>5 game lose streak
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>>166782956
Someway this is winning games for me
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>Tune in stream
>Cancer versus cancer

Oh boy
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>>166789254
You know what to do.
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>>166788631
HAI DESU

Japanese is a cute language
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>>166789254
Same feel when you go to highschool right?
>>166789331
>chemo versus cancer
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>>166788680
I think being able to replace your card once a turn is more meaningful than drawing two, when it comes to finding answers to punish the other player.

Drawing two just made every game feel exactly the same.
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>>166789414
No one called the cancer defense force, go away
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>>166789225
Try to control the board turns 1-5 while putting out snowmen, then on turns 6+ you play Conjuring Force along with low cost spells to shit on the opponent. You can win by turn 7 if you have 3-4 snowmen on the board and crimson sorceries and other low costs spells usually.
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Why does this tourney have less views than cat
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>>166789142
No trail of light?
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just themis it bro!
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JUST THEMIS BRO
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>themis top deck
CANCER
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>>166787259
>>166787262
I did it!
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>>166788832
That's obviously moronic. Point is not every play that can get you punished hard is a misplay. Sometimes you have to take a risk to win and whether it pays off or not, it's actually strategic call.
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It favored the rune, but he was using a very unconventional list with triple fates hand, 90% of dirt decks dont run this so my point still stands. Also all his victories were extremely close.
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>>166789627

you mean chemo.
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This is why I use 2 petrifications in my daria deck....
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Daria bricking 1241243% of the time on live stream
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>>166789632
Well done. I hope you are enjoying the game.
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>>166789703
>d-doesnt count

Epic.
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>daria losing to seraph
im ok with this
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Glory Be!
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>>166789591
Not enough room
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>>166789761
Teching in more card draw because you know you werent against aggro, genius. You also lost twice.
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This is my 3rd Cerberus, what do I do now
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15879
Need concede for daily, or let me hit face if you need the match for rupies.
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>>166789748
I didn't get a single legendary out of my free 30 packs but it seems cool so far, even if I am in the Special Olympics league.
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>>166789841
play shadow, dummy
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>>166789841
Time to Aggro Shadow m8
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>>166789703
>2-3
>A3 player beating Master cancer

Sounds like someone got pounded
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>>166789841
fap to her
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>>166789841
Play Aggro Shadow, probably the 4th best deck in existence right now
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>>166789587
i guess japanese don't watch it on twitch, they have their sites
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>score is 88k

Fugg only 3 days to get 12k score
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>>166789703
>unconventional list with triple fates hand
Every Dirt list plays 3 Fate's Hand exactly for the reasons you stated: Dirt has no draw. Why do you think I even mentioned Merlin?

I will admit that I would've lost all 5 matches if my win condition was anything besides Satan. Had I been running Bahamut over it I would've never won. You actually managed to get all 3 of your Seraphs faster than I could get to my Petrifications all games, so props to you, you are actually correct, you can easily outdraw Dirt and win because of it. That deck seems very effective.
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>Watching Daria versus Seraph
>Cancer versus cancer

That was the most unfun thing I've watched. Whats fun about watching some guy push his "I win" button to collect his free victory?
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>shadowverse made 100 mil USD last year

waow
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>>166789854
If you want you can do some rerolling and probably get 6ish useful ones. But up to you if it's not worth the effort or you like your account.
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>>166789905
Yeah since, I was playing against a deck that is universally recognized as a direct counter. Also every game was extremely close. Sorry I can't beat dirt rune that techs in extra card draw.
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>>166789839
That's not me. >>166789975
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>>166790012
I...was supposed to draw about 6?
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>>166789703
>lose
>but it was close xDD

Lmao sad. "Master" players everyone. One trick pony.
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>>166790010
In half a year. Their numbers just keep growing in japan, so I expect them to more than double that amount.
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This guy is running 2 Monika.

Always bet on Monika!
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>>166789956
I started like a week ago and just got my sleeves, too bad it's a stupid elf

>>166790000
>hurrr I suck so every deck that beats me is just push a button to win lmao is this even a game

lol retard
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>>166790107
not really but it will help in the long run
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>>166789587
It's split on three different streaming websites.
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>>166790107
Do you have 0 legendary card? Then reroll.
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>>166790193
>I started a week ago and I'm already shitposting about a game I havent played

Forget haven and rune, you're the true cancer
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>>166789227

fite me and find out.
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Oh boy, here comes D-Shift
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>>166790264
I didn't see any when I was making my dick.
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>Dshift against haven cancer

I've always hated shift but i'm rooting for this guy
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>Dshift vs. Seraph

Oh boy, this is gonna be so fun..
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Daily reminder Elf has not gone down from tier 1 a single fucking time since this game was released (it was also the best class in closed beta), and it's the only class to be nerfed multiple times.
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>>166790107
The average is 1 legendary every 8 packs.
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>>166790275
>I have nothing better to do than cry about a game I don't think is fun
>I'm not the cancer

lol retard
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>D-shift vs Seraph Haven
>4 turns without playing a card for either players

nice gaem
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Is this the most boring match in history?
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>>166790425
>Kaleidoscopes the same plea 3 times
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>>166790345
>I've always hated shift
Sure you do, we really believe how much you hate D.Shift, and how you're totally not playing an aggro deck, tempo Rune, or OTK Roach.
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>havent draw seraph turn 7
>odin and bahamut in a seraph deck

he deserved that lose
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>>166790345
D-shift is the biggest cancer of this game though
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jesus christ this match
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>Haven just sits there and gets pounded by shift without being able to do shit

Get fucked
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i hate d-shift so much
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>plays Themis for no fucking reason
He could have fucking won if he had kept them that retard.
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>>166790370
Just fuck my shit up senpai.
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>>166790559
Is having Odin and Bahamut too greedy or something? I'm new but they seem like control staples.
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Can I get a concede please? 28136
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>>166790471
You're not gonna draw your seraph, bitch
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>>166790316
Did you open all the packs they give out?
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>>166790316
You probably just opened the crate. You need to go to shop and then select packs and open all the ones you have tickets for.
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>>166790684
>plays Dshift
>just themis bro

That's not how it works. Time has stop.
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>>166790684
>He could have fucking won if he had kept them

no he wont

have ever matched against d-shift before?
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>>166790713
Yes. It was a little over 30.
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>>166790684
His hand would overflow the next turn and that's if there's even a next turn for him(hint: there isn't)
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Even if they nerf Daria we won't escape the rune hell, fuck Isaberu
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>>166790476
None of those are as cancerous as Havencraft.
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>>166790703
I wish it showed which card got milled by the 3rd kaleido. Imagine his face if it was actually a Seraph
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>>166785710
How do you watch the nico one? Do you need premium?
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>>166790835
Dshift is there to save us from all the cancer players and to make them throw their device down the stairs
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>>166790820
Then reroll and try to get around 5-6 legendaries.
Or just keep playing if you don't want to bother.
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>>166790820
there's still 20 more pack from private match
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Wouldn't he stand a chance if he play that card with ward?
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>>166790879
No just a nico account like the rest of the livestreams
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Monikaaaaaaaaaaa!

>>166790820
Did you beat the elite AI? That's 1400 gold.
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>Haven has a low play rate and a low win rate!
>Haven sucks!
>Two matches so far have been Rune versus Seraph

Really gets those neurons going
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>>166790809
>>166790819
Against a D-Shift this slow its entirely possible he doesn't have the reduction to play them in sequence espeically with the multiple overflows. Themis is the last card to drop for overflow in that situation.
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>>166790893
>>166790854
kys rune shitter
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>>166790893
>There will never be a control meta because Dshift exists
Feels good man
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>>166790961
>>166790684
Jesus fuck, are these the retards that complain about Haven? Have you literally never ever played against D.Shift with a deck that isn't unga bunga?
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>>166790854
>this one daria shitter hysterically trying to call Haven cancerous for chemoing his ass all day

you're my favorite poster here, please keep crying
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>puting my evil alter ego into the trash, where she belongs.

no better feeling
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>doing my dragon dailies in unranked
>some master faggot apparently decided to test his aggro shadow deck in unranked
>concede on turn 1

get fucked, no testing for you
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>>166790983
Seraph has a good match up against Daria.
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>>166790972
Found it, cool. Openrec is such aids.
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>>166791061
thanks for helping me complete my dailies faster
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>>166790961
Any ward would just get taken out. The guy played against DS the right way, he just had nothing good to play.
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>>166791045
Yeah, everyone that calls you out on your shitty forced memes has to play some shitty deck.

Stop projecting and forcing your awful memes
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Why no one told me about those massive cow tits of Witchcrafter Magisa?
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>>166791057
Nothing more satisfying that stuffing her asshole with dirt, I agree.

Daily reminder to bully dariafags whenever possible
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>>166790983
>I'll omit facts that are inconvenient for me
>Rune is 33% of the ladder and has positive winrate against every class other than Haven
>Why are people playing the counter? HAVEN IS CANCER RUNE IS FINE
Why are Dariafags so fuck obvious? The only retards who buy your shit are other Daria and aggro subhumans.
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>>166790694
Eh, when I started playing I only got a single lego from my starting packs. Then some weeks later I would get 6 from 20 packs on the release day of DE. And more lucky packs since then.
I also remember an anon who rerolled for days for his account and then didn't get a single new legendary for a month, I think?
SV doesn't have any pity timers like HS. It's all luck.
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>>166791040
>tfw Haven tries to seraph you
>Time stops when they drop their seraph and you shift them twice
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>>166791061
>you will never be this angrily autistic

thanks for helping me with my daily
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japs are so reclusive

they fucking limit twitch chat to jap speakers only when they stream on the western site and apparently for westerners too
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>>166791257

good for them
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>>166791175
>RUNE IS FINE
Literally who said that. Both rune and Haven are incredibly cancerous and not fun to watch at all.

At least the rune players know they're playing a bullshit deck though while the haven players think they're perfectly fine and force shitty memes like the OP of this thread or the le chemo meme
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>>166791173
Because Magisa is a shit unusable card in this game
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What the fuck, that was the easiest 5-0 I ever had.

Is our guy the true savior of T2?
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>>166791257
twitch chat are cancer anyway
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>>166791253
i saved myself time the game almost likely would had been a loss anyway, easily won the next game and finished dailies

that's the proper thing to do, go test your t1 in ranked, especially since you can't lose anything there
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eris is best girl
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>>166791175
>Haven wins against "cancer"

Really makes me think
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>>166791364
I always have the most success with Dragon, not sure why people don't think it's the best in T2.
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>>166791341
im going to force this meme in the future thread just for you anonbby :)
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>>166791341
But the only one forcing a shitty meme is you fucking retards butthurt about Haven. How is Haven not fucking fine when it's win and play rate are both bottom 4 below Rune, Forest, and Blood? Does it need to be literally the worst fucking class in every aspect to be "fine"? You're literally fucking butthurt about the only viable anti aggro deck.
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>>166791351
True.

But that size man, that fucking size.
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>>166791364

he is either great or dogshit, depending on what yout get, there is no middle ground
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>>166791485
You were already forcing it and were going to force it in the future so what changed?
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>>166790370
Wtf? That's not true at all. Legendaries have a 1.5% chance of dropping, plus a tiny amount because you have to get a minimum of one silver/gold/lego.
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>>166791494
>only viable anti aggro deck

topkek
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>>166791364
w-what's the reward for 5 wins in take 2 senpai?
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>>166791189
I-I see. Well, I can just climb my way up maybe.
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>>166791494
The only butthurt one seems to be you that needs to throw autistic whiny fits and push your shit down everyone's throat the minute someone says something bad about haven
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>>166791551
It's 1.5% per card, with 8 cards in a pack
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>Third match is haven versus haven

TOTALLY NOT TOP TIER CANCER GUYS

Its totally fine please stop complaining so they dont nerf my cancerous I win button I dont know how to win without ot
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>>166791593
dirty, sexy and erotic b-cup elf scum looking so happy it makes me want to destroy her asshole and rape her for days until she dies
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>>166791593
Make sure to protect that smile anon. It's very precious.
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>>166791667
Oh I thought it was 1.5% lego chance per pack, not per card. So really there's a >12% chance of getting a lego? That's some bullshit, I've been playing ages and still only have like a dozen.
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>>166790975
>Did you beat the elite AI? That's 1400 gold.
NO, I DID NOT

What pack can give me the best bang for my buck?
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>New Yugioh movie came out
>Tempted to play YGO again

What do, senpai????
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>>166791697
Dude, Seraph IS top tier, shut the fuck up, nobody is denying it.
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>>166791740
>Misunderstanding statistics this badly
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>>166791742
Whatever you're missing the most cards in
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>elena heals and makes everything done void
What the fuck beats this cancer?
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>>166791715
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>>166791807
I started playing like 1 hour ago, I dunno. I want to play a fairy deck.
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>>166791807
Destroy their amulet so they can drop a new one like nothing happened
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>>166791742
depends on what class you're interested in anon

also you need to finish 20 private matches against different people for 2000 more gold
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>>166791742
Standard
Only buy the expansion packs if you need specific cards from them

Darkness has important shit like Crystalia Tia, Levi, and Seraph
while Rage of Bahamut has cards like Daria, Albert, and Bahamut
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>>166791773
Play Yugioh but avoid /dng/. Also, stop blogging here.
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>>166791773
>again
When did you stop playing? I still play it. If you want to hear about the current state of the game, it's about to enter a Tier 0 format in a few days.
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>>166791807
1 Turn 20 damage OTK angry roaches
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Delete seraph please! this card is rediculus and uncounterable atleast from most classes, there is no way that the Devs could of thought that this card was a good idea it HAD to of been a mistake because you can litarally just win from waiting four turns, if your enemy tried to destroy it? little did u know that would only SPEED UP the process. I love this game DO NOT missunderstand! this game is a great game, i would love it more if they would take the time TO GET RID OF THIS GAME BREAKING REDICULUS CARD! For the love of everything just do it! or make alot more banish amulate cards for all classes atleast! GEEZ!

And sure u could say just add in an odin or something but i shouldent have to pick up 1 - 3 cards just because theres that one card out there that is completely brocken, i mean you can justify it ALL you want but you are just firing blanks and none of it really can be justified! The card IS only useful for people who cant stratogize so take a hint people.
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>>166791742
Are you sure you have 0 legendary? Check in the filter setting in cards. I would reroll for at least 4-7.

Picture related.
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>>166791807
Either out-controlling them (pure Elana relies entirely on board presence to win) or curve better than it does in the early game (no 1-drops, vanilla 2-drops and 3-drops only). The deck's strength comes from its absurd mid-game value and its plethora of heals, so it stomps the midrange mirror, but it's not exceptionally good beyond that.
>>
odin-chaaan!
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>>166791951
Elf relies on chip damage to end the game before lategame, and it will struggle to survive against Elana midgame, so I'd say it's not a good matchup at all.
>>
How can I draw as well as these players?
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>>166791390
how were you so completely sure it was a copy paste t1 when you conceded on turn 1? lmao brilliant autism you frustrated little boy. your point is retarded anyway, everyone tests a new deck in unranked. imagine feeling this prosecuted over an online card game, I'm crying
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>>166792113
that double odin was sweet
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>>166791742
Standard I guess. For Haven it's probably Darkness Evolved.
For Tempo Rune Dariacraft it's Rise of Bahamut.
If you want to know what cards are currently being run in top tier decks just check some websites using google translate:
game-ai.jp
shadowverse.gamewith.jp/
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>>166791949
it was long time ago tough. Before they started introduce things like xyz and synchro etc.
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>>166791591
I got a pack, 200 gold, and 50 vials.

There's better ones, you can even get 2 packs but I never get that one.
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>>166792113
he has third for his third seraph
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THIRD ODIN
H
I
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O
D
I
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>>166791807
Any control deck that runs Bahamut/Odin (Ie all of them, namely Ramp/Storm Dragon, CBlood, CSword, Dirt Rune, Sun Satan)
Any combo deck that kills in 1 or 2 turns. Roach OTK, Elf PtP, Rune PtP, D.Shift, Dragonewt discard combo.

In conclusion, stop playing aggro Blood/Shadow/Sword in your dumpster C rank, and if you're playing tempo Rune and complaining about anything, consider a big dose of bleach cocktail, you're wasting precious air by the second.
>>
Bans for all daria players when?
>>
>He draws 3 odins against 3 seraphs

Fuck the seraph
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>>166792282
Not coming any time soon after that korean whale did the whole animated daria deck.
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>>166791773
>>166791949
damn I miss yugioh. is there a decent yugioh game to catch on their new mechanics without having to watch their awful animes? tag force 6 is the last game I played so basically synchro summons
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>>166792282
t. havenbby
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>>166792305
I don't want to imagine the face of that seraphfag.
>>
There, just add 3 Odins to your deck if you hate Seraph that much.
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Where's the wincon though
>>
>>166792350
Google ygo pro. Its a fully automated game. You can play against others or against the AI or even solve puzzles.
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>>166792448
Making your oponent ragequit
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>>166791436
It's a shame heaven is such cancer when it has some of the cutest girls.
>>
I hate Seraph but I really feel bad watching this guy get Odin'd like this.
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>HAVE IS TOP CANCER TIER 1 PLS NERF WTF I WENT FACE AND HE LIVED
>See? Look how people are playing in tournaments! Totally broken!
>What do you mean it's only played, because it counters both top 2 classes? I don't understand, I just want to hit face, pls nerf Blizzard, emotional balance is important #aggrolivesmatter
>>
>no more amulets
top kek
>>
I think I might have some sick Shadowcraft cards. What's a good Shadow deck?
>>
This match is going to go on until someone runs out of followers.
>>
this eris battle is hilarious
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>>166792539
>tempo rune is aggro
Every time
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>>166792539
>Everyone's playing haven in the tournament
>But ignore that and and look at these stats that benefit me!!

Just shut up, you're not convincing anyone
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>>166792221
You'll probably be completely lost then. YGO nowadays is nothing like it used to be. It's probably the fastest CG out there. Games can be decided as early as Turn 1 in some cases, and I am not talking about Exodia FTK. You can try it out, it's still pretty fun if you are not playing stuff that is too meta.

>>166792350
There are fan-made simulators for PC that are completely free and give you access to literally every card released. A big portion of YGO players use them to try out cards, to experiment or to simply play the game online. Look up YGOPro (you'll have to join a Discord to get access to it, they only give their download links through there because their site's download link got taken down).

Btw, listen to that other guy's advice and stay away from /dng/.
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>>166792598
one has a hand full of removal, the other full of heals, I wonder which one will win at the end
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>>166792539
>autistic screeching
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I have enough shampoo bottles to craft 2 legendaries. I mostly play Blood not aggro bats I swear and control Shadow. Been thinking of putting Neph in the latter but I'm not sure I'd have a place to put her or what I'd take out to do so.
Someone help.
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>>166792621
This battle is proof that haven has too much removal
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ResidentSleeper
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>>166792467
will do, thanks
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>turn 21

holy FUCK just delete haven already
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>turn21
>everyone just basically waiting for the other to deck out
This is what anti-dshift fags actually want
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>>166792690
CShadow is probably better than Neph.
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>>166792693
and too much heals, but don't worry Cygames will give them more next expansion
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>>166792693
implying

the evil hag used 2 bahamuts and 3 odins who are neutral

too bad she is gonna win
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>Thought this was gonna end at turn 9 with Seraph
>this turn of events
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>>166791501
Go play GBF where she's actually useful
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>top guy draws Haven

Thank god it's finally over.
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>>166792539
This is what happens when HS babbies are confronted with alternate win conditions.
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>Seraph at the very end

Well, he won
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>Seraphfag gets his 3 seraphs banished and is going to lose to the seraph
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>>166792690
I think Neph is a card you really need to build around to get the most of. I don't know how good just slotting her in a control deck would be
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>>166792758
Its not a binary. Both of them are cancerous and need to be removed from the meta.
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omfg

that guy with 2 bahamuts and 3 odins also has a seraph......

fucking faggot will win
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>>166792539
>All ladder
>Haven that high
>Masters only
>Haven last place
Really makes you think. What rank are you again /svg/ :^)? Don't worry, play Daria Rune and aggro Blood long enough and you'll make it past A0 some day!
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>They actually went to fatigue

Holy shit so that's what that looks like.
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>>166792824
Irony or poetic justice?
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is this "one version" thing going to become common or is it only cygames
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>>166792690
>Been thinking of putting Neph in the latter but I'm not sure I'd have a place to put her or what I'd take out to do so.
Regular ControlShadow is (sadly) better than NephControl.
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What are you guys watching?
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>Elana Sun Satan Haven
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>>166792952
https://www.openrec.tv/live/ioGRuUbgdgK
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>>166792952
https://www.openrec.tv/live/ioGRuUbgdgK

4th haven match but its totally shit tier look at these charts that benefit my argument instead of the tournament
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>>166792952
twitch tv japanesports
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>>166791593
beginner1 and already a cancer

tfw

>>166792952
twitch /japanesports
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>>166792962
There's enough heals in non-Elana lists as it is, so throwing in two (maaaybe three?) doesn't hurt if you have enough support/cycle. Kinda curious what he cut for them, though.
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>control sword
No draw meme deck
It's over, Haven already won
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>>166793053
w-why am i cancer? she's the tutorial grill
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>guy on top playing two control decks
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>>166793027
>tournament meta is same as ladder meta
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>WE ARE TOTALLY IN AGGRO META GUISE
>CONTROL IS FUCKING DEAD
>Every deck in tournament is Control, Seraph, DShift or Daria
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>>166792835
>>166792949
A fair point. Nevertheless I'm itching to spend some vials for my favorite faction.
The most likely are Cerb, Neph and Bloodhungry Matriarch.
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>>166793178
just ignore that buttblasted daria shitter
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>>166792906
What Dragon deck is doing that well?
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>>166793203
>>166793178
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where's the monika anon, he would be so proud right now
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Just ignore the buttblasted seraph shitter
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>>166793027
>Statistics from a large sample size are FAKE NEWS
>A couple of matches in the self contained and seperate meta that is tournaments, are absolute facts.
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>draft the most ridiculous t2 deck in the world
>get matched against sword
>somehow have no turn 2 play despite the 10 2pp cards in deck
>turn 3 pass
>turn 4 removal spell
>turn 5 lose
t2 is actually the worst
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>Monica replacing Aurelia
It's time for the old and busted to get out of the way
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>>166793203
Some guy really wants haven to go under the radar so they dont nerf it or change it
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>RUNE IS THE CANCER GUYS TRUST ME, SEE THIS CHART.
>People only pick Haven in every tournament match.

How will Havenfags recover?
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>>166793210
Cerb is a cornerstone of ever viable Shadowdeck so you can never go wrong with her.
Matriarch is only good in the relatively expensive BloodControl.

Mind, Nephtits deck can be fun, its just not terribly viable, so you could always craft her and make a deck for her anyway.
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>>166793203
wait, what happened to aggro blood? I thought that was the tier 0 deck
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>>166793232
i think it's a statistical error, storm ramp reported as storm ramp by those who plays it and as ramp by those who plays vs it
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>>166793342

Cyclone is a better board clear

It's about time people figured that out.
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>>166793393
It's been a long time since it died out.
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WHAT'S A GOOD SHADOW DECK PLS IS CONTROL AND AGGRO THE ONLY THINGS?
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>>166793393
Turns out Batggro can be tech'd aggainst unlike Daria.
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>>166793393
for some reason they don't play her on several recent tourneys

it's still a good deck for ladder
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>>166793314
sounds like ALTERNATIVE facts
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>draw all 3 Odin's against Seraph
>drawing your one Cyclone Blade when you need it

IS THERE ANYTHING HE CAN'T DO?
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Are amulets cancer?
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Albert is the true chemo here saving us from the seraph cancer
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>>166793450
Cyclone is fucking garbage. People only play it because Sword has literally no other way to board clear besides hoping that your opponent has to crash everything into your Aurelia.
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>>166793492

There's also meme decks which perform surprisingly well.

>0 mana 8/8

fair card

fair game
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SKY KNIGHTS, PREPARE FOR BATTLE!
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>>166793569
The amulets are actually the part of Haven that isn't cancrous. Its all their support (read: removal and heal) that is
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I want to fuck a cute elf,preferably Arisa.
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Alberto is best boy for a reason, and he just proved that fact again tonight.
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ALBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
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>>166793601
kys dubcuck
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>>166793492
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>>166793685
SABER STRIKE
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>>166793740
>only one

Get the fuck outta here.
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Should I craft third Albert? I really want to climb with sword right now.
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>>166793639
>Cards that do nothing for several turns are okay
>Heal and removal is cancer
Go on, tell me how you're not a B rank aggro player , I'll totally believe it.
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did anybody make a daria that doesn't break already?
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>>166793701

>that list

Cannot even prey on fotm
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>>166793393
Everyone started tech-in heals and wards so it has fell off
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>>166793809
Yes.
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>>166793701
He asked for good, not _fun
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>>166793801
But he was played on turn 8 on the stream... Or do I remember wrong?
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>>166793809
For sure. I'm climbing with control sword at the moment as well, and it's doing wonders in A3 so far.
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>>166793801
Don't let it get to you.
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I hate Themis Decree
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>>166793925
It happened less than 5 minutes ago, how bad can your memory be anon?
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>>166793973
Me too anon, me too.
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>>166794058
Remember dubcucks are literally retarded, dont be too harsh on him.
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>>166793835
how is heal not cancer
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Is it over?
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>>166794180
20 min pause.
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>>166794180
Nah, long break
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>>166794178
Elana Haven is t3.
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>Haven is shit and never played, stop complaining!!!
>Literally everyone brought a Seraph deck for the tournament

Yeah man, haven is so bad and underplayed. Just lt me take my least played class below dragon to tournaments for free wins. But its totally shit and people never play it so its okay!.
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man, dirt rune really lives and dies by calamitus.

Lost to a haven because I didn't draw even one in 24 cards.
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Meanwhile in T2
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>>166794285
HEAR
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Easiest elite to beat?
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>>166794256
how does that make heal not cancer
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>>166794326
all but erika
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>>166794258
>Seraph decks lose to all other control and combo decks

So you are just a butthurt aggro player complaining that your class has counters?
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>>166794258
I am still waiting for them to show us a match with either blood or shadow. At least Dragon got showed in the first match
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Wew, I didn't expect to get a 3/2, much less a 5/0 with this shitty deck.
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>>166794378
>Beats every midrange and control deck unless they draw Odin
What did he mean by this?
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>>166794332
aggro shitters aren't even trying to hide anymore
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>>166794256
tier lists are retarded like one of them doesn't include seraph, another considers bats t3 etc
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>>166794448

There's midrange decks now?
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>>166794378
>Lose to all other control and combo decks

More like wins against all other control and combo decks unless you draw odin or get heart of the card draws like the albert guy
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>>166794525
Before Daria killed them
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>doing some T2
>pick sword
>get no legendaries, just a leo I never drew
>get no one drops (saw one ninja, but it was with a keen enchantment not worth picking)
>still somehow make it out 4-1 playing a garbage deck

Nice class cygames :^)
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>>166794258
>tournament players know a ton of Daria is going to be brought to the tournament
>Daria's dominance also means that DShift, the hard counter to Seraph, is no longer as popular as it used to be
>Seraph is one of the best decks against Daria and also beats anti-Daria control decks like the CBlood meme
>what should I do??

It's the meta that Daria created. I hope Rune usage goes up to 40% so Cygames will finally be forced to do something.
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>>166794332
>T3 mechanics are cancer
Okay?
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>>166794058
I tend to forget minor things shortly after they happen. It may be ADD but I never bothered to ask my psychiatrics about it.
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>>166784318
Here, have something I've made while half dead in like 3 minutes
It's 5am here so whatever critiscism you write*(I know it's shite_) I'll probably respond in like 4 - 5 threads.
Night anon
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>>166794643
>T3 mechanics
Seraph is T3?
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>>166794448
Every class shits on midrange now.
Show me a tournament control deck that doesn't have Odin.

I'll wait.

>>166794547
And what if you don't draw seraph? Works both ways, boi.
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>>166794754
>And what if you don't draw seraph? Works both ways, boi.
Spam your removal until one of you decks out as shown on stream
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>>166794717
Elana seraph is t3.
Pure seraph doesn't really run heals outside of Unica as anti-aggro.
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>>166794754
>don't draw seraph
The only class that has more draw and search than Haven is Rune, the chance of your opponent drawing more Odins than you drawing Seraphs is low
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>>166794592
>keen enchantment not worth picking
This is your mistake.
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>>166794820
You do realize it works both ways, right? Seraph isn't an autowin against control like you seem to think it is.
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>>166794637
Fix both then.

We'll never be able to have fun metas as long as no fun allowed shit like Seraph or Daria exists
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>>166794978
>Seraph
>Not Dshift

Kill DShift first, then we can talk.
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Jesus christ I CANNOT draw any of the legos I want
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>>166795021
Just make rune and haven less solitaire mode and more like the other classes then we'll finally be able to have fun things
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>>166795036
What legos you want, anon?
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>>166795113
Combo decks will always be solitaire. Seraph at least has some interactivity. DShift needs to be looked at first since it's the original problem.
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>craft forte
>realize face dragon is shit if they have too much wards

>try ramp storm dragon with genesis dragon
>its better and doesn't use forte

JUST
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>>166795113
>make rune and haven less solitaire
>OTK roach and OTK dragon are fine

Wrong. Remove OTK combos with no counterplay, or add cards that can be played on your opponent's turn.
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>>166795217
Post dick
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>>166795180
>Some interactivity

Only interactivity is "Can you lethal this turn?" or "Do you have Odin/Petrify on your hand?"
If the answer is no then haven just laughs and tells you to get fucked.
They're all shit
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HEY LET'S PLAY
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>>166795217
>any Dragon deck
>doesn't use Forte
What the hell kind of list are you running?
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>>166795247
>Complaining about OTK dragon

Really
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ROWEN YAMEROOOOOOO
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>>166795217
>doesn't use forte
Every slightly decent Dragon deck uses Forte.
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>>166795217
>ramp storm deck
>doesn't use high damage storm follower

???
>>
Stream is back

Time for more haven games
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>>166795337
I play games to practice my thinking and improve my skill. Any variant of OTK decks with no chance of counterplay doesn't require skill to deal with, it requires luck and a good deck.
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Been stuck in AA2 for a week and finally started climbing out when I switched to bats.

I guess am to intelligent to play anything but bats.
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Thanks for that Seraph decklist who ever ever posted it, I've been cucking aggro swords,bloods and darias all day.
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Is the torunament over?
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>>166795315
>>166795379
>>166795397
I'm doing ramp bahamut with genesis and wyvern cavalier. I don't really like using forte since it only has 3 hp and need an evolve to be 7/3.
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>>166795438
>otk roach?
>run wards
>otk dragon?
>play aggressively and force him to defend and not build his hand for combo
Think harder, there are proper counters to them.
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>>166795503
B group should be starting according to the schedule
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>>166795447
>losing streak with haven and shadow
>switch to bats and get huge winstreak
Feels awful but I need wins
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>>166795151
Any of the RoB ones worth a damn. So not the dragon one again.
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>>166795495
which one?
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>>166795554
I also fall back on aggro bats when I need a win streak
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>>166795495
Which one also post list
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>>166795549
>ramp storm
>bahamut
>only genesis for storm
That's not ramp storm at all.
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>>166795551

Ok thanks anon, I suck at Japanese internet.
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>>166795550
>OTK roach
>don't draw wards
>OTK dragon
>don't curve out

Love it when the biggest factor in the match is my skill. :^)
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>>166795626
>>166795554

Does anyone have the fanart of Caveman Vampy?
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>>166795495
>>166795610
>>166795635
But look at the charts! Haven sucks in ladder!
Why would you want a deck that loses to everything?
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>>166795731
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>>166795706
Welcome to card games. Every deck loses if they don't draw their specific answers to the current situation. It's not exclusive to certain decks. If you want to complain about that then don't play card games.
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>>166795635
>>166795610
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>>166795731
>>
Why don't y'all like Floral Fencer?
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I unpacked a second Gabriel. Should I just liquefy the two of them?
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>>166795636
I have 3 urn and Eyfa. Forte gets cuck'el/dragon warrior and destroy by levi crimson sorcery. I rather they waste 5pp on DoD or themis to clear genesis dragon or they lose. I get genesis out as early as turn 6 (for them) so its not that bad.
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>Only way I lose is if he has 3 roaches in hand on turn 6
>Thinking...
>Thinking...
>[Roach noises]
>[More roach noises]
>[Another roach noise]
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>>166795856
Your inexperience is showing. Most card games aren't solely made up of linear strategies where you either curve out or draw specific answer cards.
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>>166795907
>eyfa over forte

C1?
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>>166795892
shitters think she's bad now because somehow Amelia replaced her
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>>166796076
I see a lot of people run both
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Please concede
145555
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>>166795892
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>>166795798
>>166795869

Thanks anons.
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>>166795892
Floral doesn't put enough threat on the board. Against Daria, she commonly ends up just putting Piercing Rune fodder on the board.
Also, now that Albert is a thing, keeping evo points for his enhanced effect is very important, so spending them on Fencer is sometimes not worth it. You now have stuff like Jeno and Amelia for turn 4 plays and they don't cost you an evo point.
I personally prefer White Paladin over her. At least White Paladin puts wards on the board (so they can't just ignore them and go face) and is not useless without an evo point.
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>>166795985
>only plays 1 gobu or feena the entire game
>has 3 roaches in hand
Fug
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>>166795992
Uhuh, and what card game specifically are you thinking of where you don't have to draw answers to threats your opponents come in with?
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>>166795894
No, keep at least one since she always has a chance of becoming useful or meta.

People did the same and trashed Gabriel during most of DE, but she came back in some standard mid sword lists toward the end.
>>
23144

I'm bored of ladder, someone hit me with some memes.
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>>166796260
Hmm, but I shouldn't expect to run multiples of her in a deck right? Her effect feels so niche.
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>>166796076
>shitters

Isn't that you?
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>>166796197
>Discord idiots are dubcucks
>Thread goes to shit when someone insults dubs
>Current Haven OP was made by some guy forcing his discord link

Really makes you think
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>>166796354
Pretty sure 3 will never be played. 2 is possible to become viable in the future, but not too likely to be mandatory. Keep at least 1.
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>>166796070
Forte ruins the pull for bahamut. (You)
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>>166796416
This was in a private discord server and he was making fun of how bad the dub is
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>>166796449
Aight, I'll keep them and maybe liquify one if I suddenly desperately need another card. Thanks.
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>>166796256
Seems you misrepresented my post. You switched my "specific answers" to "answers."

Pic related, the existence of cards like this in SV would drastically limit the power of OTK uninteractive decks, and would actually require skill to counter. Too many cards in SV give instant value without the possibility of opponent interaction.
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>>166796416
That's not the /svg/ discord.

>>166796449
Even 2 is stretching it to be honest. She's usually used for aggro, except she bricks your hand really hard.
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>>166795907
>urn
You mean Urd? If you do, that's even more reason to run Forte, since you can't combo Urd with Eyfa or Genesis Dragon in the same turn.
>>
hey I just started the game and I pulled Bahamut out of the Rage packs is he any good?
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>>166796669
he can destroy enemy amulet which is very useful against haven
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>>166796669
Yes. He is played in many Control builds, some Haven decks and Ramp Dragon.
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>>166796669
Only alongside decks full of other legendaries
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>>166796585
>Seems you misrepresented my post. You switched my "specific answers" to "answers."
Except hold on a minute, cards like Counterspell that can counter anything is a Blue-specific mechanic. You can't exactly splash it into every deck in Magic. In fact, MOST of Magic is specific answers! White exiles, Black kills creatures but has trouble with enchantments, Green leans towards artifact destruction and "Fight" effects but don't have burn damage like Red does to pick off creatures, etc. Who are you fooling accusing other people of card game inexperience?
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>>166796669
He's great. What else did you pull?
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>>166796669
>>166796745
unless the amulet has last words
>>
So when are we getting the free survey packs?
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>>166796814
>White exiles
And taps, taps is mostly what I mean.

Point is most of the answers in the game is situational answer cards with limits. Counterspell is a color specific special.
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>>166796745
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>>166796980
>he fell for the survey meme
>>
Dragon being played at all?
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>>166796980
kys ESL-kun
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>>166796980
Within 30 days of the survey closing.
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>>166796814
Counterspell being blue only does not make it a "specific answer." It answers 99% of anything you'll be seeing. I honestly have no idea what point you were trying to make in this post other than that the color pie exists, which it essentially still does in SV too.
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>>166796960

Merlin, Pluto, Crystalia Tia
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>>166797156
What about that post indicates English isn't their first language?
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>>166797156
Me fail English? That's unpossible!
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>>166797239
You should reroll to try to get more legendaries. There should be a guide in the pastebin in the OP.
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>>166796980
Never
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>>166797239
Make sure to bounce Tia up and down and get her off a bunch.
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>>166797256
One of the first things you read when doing the survey was that we would get the packs within 30 days of the survey closing. The fact that he didn't know this indicates that he is a 3rd world shitter.
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>>166797231
>Counterspell being blue only does not make it a "specific answer."
It makes it one card out of hundreds and hundreds of other cards. Nearly every other card in the game besides Counterspell is a specific answer. Just play Odin if you're that sick of Seraph, but in the end of the day, if you're playing Magic, you're going to have the exact same complaint of "Ugh I can't believe I have to draw into my Counterspell to answer that Gideon because most of the other cards in my deck and hand and the game in general can't answer it!! Sure, just fucking Thopter into Thopter into Gideon and win stupid linear strategy bullshit winning just because I didn't draw Counterspell blah blah blah"
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>>166796517
>someone makes a post with a random dub line
>no one would pay attention to it except for some resident autist who always spergs out

>check the OP
>it actually does have a forced discord link because those faggots won't quit

I miss when this general wasn't so awful. RoB was a mistake.
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>>166797239
That's not too many, I'd reroll if you're on mobile.

But if you aren't then Tia is good, Merlin is okay in some decks, Pluto has it's uses but isn't really that good.
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>>166795907
>urn
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help me test my arch priest deck please

57795
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Too fast thread:
>>166797613

>>166797613
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>>166797510
>no one would pay attention to it except for some resident autist who always spergs out
Most of the time its a bunch of people calling dubcucks out for being dumb. Its not just one person.
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>>166797639
No, the autistic "kys dubcuck" replies literally started after RoB.

No one gave a shit before that.
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>>166797629
Nice Discord.
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>>166797714
you are incorrect, go search "dubcuck" in the archives
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Does Dragonbond Mage have any sort of use at all?
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>>166797837
vials
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>>166797508
You realize that you can run plenty of counterspells, right? That most control decks will probably be made up of nothing except counterspells/kill spells, board wipes for when you run out of those, and card draw for when you run out of both?

My point is, those counterspells aren't specific answers to just OTK. It's not like a counterspell is a hoser like blood moon. They're never going to be dead cards in your hand. Suboptimal ward cards will often be. And, as I said earlier, there is still no legitimate counterplay to OTK dragon besides going fast. It's not flattering when you speak mockingly. I feel bad for you.
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New player here anyone have a good deck list for daria?
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>>166796745
>he can destroy enemy amulet which is very useful against haven
pls, bahamut-sama, destroy my seraph harder
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>>166797885
> And, as I said earlier, there is still no legitimate counterplay to OTK dragon besides going fast.

implying otk dragon even can pull their combo once per every i dunno 3 games

btw timeless witch is an answer to burn
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>>166797885
>You realize that you can run plenty of counterspells, right?
Sure, up to four. And you can run up to three Odins. That does absolutely nothing to change my point.

>My point is, those counterspells aren't specific answers to just OTK.
Is it really much of a point when the other 56 cards in your deck ARE specific answers? You still have to draw into it and you still have to do it at a specific point in your mana curve or else you lose exactly how it is in this game.
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>>166795992
>complain about not drawing the right answers or curving right
>calls me inexperienced and says it's not sopposed to matter
Then why are you complaining about it?
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>>166795907
>caring about whether forte dies or not
Do you even know how ramp storm is sopposed to play? You ramp then play storm followers and just go face. You don't care whether they die, you just spam storm on their face until you kill them. Keeping forte alive is not the point of forte.
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>>166796479
>ramp storm
>bahamut
Why don't you just play ramp neutral then?
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>>166798180
You can run more than four since many of them will be similar, redundant effects. And yes, it does absolutely change your point. Odin doesn't stop ETB effects. Counterspells do. Odin can't be played on your opponent's turn. Counterspells can. Odin can't stop OTK. Counterspells can.

I don't think you even know what a specific answer is. Again, I would consider that something like blood moon. Opponent is playing a bunch of nonbasics? Play blood moon and win. Opponent isn't playing blood moon? Dead card.
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Stop relying to a retard
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I like gourmet emperor. How do I make a meme deck based around him and his carrots?
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>>166800367
Play OTK discard dragon.
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This game is even more P2W than HS holy shit. The effects on some of these golds and legendaries are ridiculous.
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>>166800575
>golds and legendaries are ridiculous
>doesn't point out some silvers and bronze are better than some legos i.e. yurius or priest of the cudgel

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