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dead four first

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second for art style and no hats mod
http://www.teamfortress.tv/35222/no-hats-mod

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Pryo update leaked:

https://pastebin.com/BQeBaTii

>>166722745
Is there a mod that leaves in "good" hats

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>tfw no strange widowmaker

>>166722894
i wish there was

>>166722932
it's barely more than a key
how poor are you

>>166723182
Very

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>>166722745
saved

>>166723228
the picture?
how new are you

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>>166723310
straight from r*ddit

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overheal medigun idea continued from last thread >>166712526
>+100% ubercharge rate
>-overheal rate slows down from normal speed to -125% based on overheal percentage
>+25% max overheal
>ubercharge is sectioned like the vacc except into only 2 parts
>activating an uber locks the target's overheal so it doesn't degrade anymore

name: pop n' lock

>>166723826
Yea okay I realized this actually just does not not have redeeming qualities

-75% min overheal rate is slow enough

>>166723826
sounds pretty useless really. if it overheals slower than stock there is just no point since you could practically give players permanent overheal just by healing them. i don't really understand why it would overheal slower at all when just having no uber at all is much fucking worse

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Gonna find a 2fort game and see what memes I can see

>>166724506
It overheals slower because the max overheal is increased

But yea I probably overdid it, even in the revision

The idea was sorta that you could give scouts, engineers and snipers a a nice thick coat to hold them over while you're busy with the real classes

I'm having a hard time really imagining how it'd play like. Maybe just make the overheal lock a passive feature and give it two minicrit mini-ubers or something

>>166725049
what about making the overheal permanent and still take awhile, but if you use an uber it instantly overheals

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>mfw I click a bunch of heads in a row

>>166725227
>what about making the overheal permanent and still take awhile
That's what I meant to imply in my previous post, not sure how that was unclear

Insta-overheal seems like a neat idea but it feels too similar to the quick fix. I'm trying to keep it a bit original I guess yea the mini crit thing would be similar to the kritzkrieg too but eh

>>166722745
you mean first and only one who cares

post gibus videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAuqwUJlRts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I7DEs3fADU

>>166725792
oh god that xboxplayer
i legit lost my shit when he stared at him

>>166725792
thank you for posting this

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>join pub
>see this
@_@

the weiner hat fits the artstyle and theme of the scout fuck off

Friend has an unusual haunted scrap. While it can't be giftwrapped and traded anymore as of February 2016: If we craft the item into the Headtaker, will it be tradable then?

>>166726690
all that means is that sniper has been on the server all day. you can be dogshit but if you're on a 24/7 server long enough you get points

>>166726740
No.

>>166726690
Hey I was in that game!

>>166726803
Okay. But can the UHHH itself be giftwrapped and then traded? Or is the item just untradable these days?

>>166726839
Pretty sure it used to be giftable, but wiki says it ain't.

>>166726719
it still looks fucking stupid and it's all class now which makes zero sense

>>166726743
the class distribution is what triggers me
server browser is now the official "choose your 2fort - hightower server" service so theres not much to choose from anyway

>>166726879
Well that's retarded.

>>166726981
That's why i started playing valve MM. Might be shit at balance, but you get a good map and 5 other people playing to win (usually).

>>166726839
why not just help him kill a HHH

its the only thing trading servers were ever good for was having an available HHH to fight

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>>166727064

>>166727084
He has the metal since 2011~.
I traded my UHHH for like 3-4 ref back then, when it wasn't worth more.

>>166727064
i wana chew on his hyands

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>paddie is playing IM next season

>>166727342
as scout

>>166725792
>that ending to the second video
thanks for posting

>>166727168
i miss my mann co hat s an alternative gibus
its scrap is now in the first item i made way back when, a widowmaker

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i want your honest opinion on this guys

http://www.strawpoll.me/12208365

>>166727528
why are badlands snakewater and viaduct in reserves baka

how much do keys go for in paypal in this current year
i havent played since like, october

>>166727759
probably the same amount you can still buy them for in the stores? what the fuck mate why would they rise in price, $2.50

>>166727759
like 3 cents but I'll give you 5
check your PMs offer only goes today

>>166727873
im talking in paypal you newfaf piece of SHIT

>>166727528
Not everybody would want hitsounds or damage numbers, and most wouldn't understand how med binds actually worked
On the other hand, there is NO REASON to subject people to a 75fov, and improved net settings would be recognized only by some of the most hardcore players

>>166727969
75fov is preferable if you have a small monitor

>>166728304
if 3:4 ratio 98 is the sweetspot, 108 for widescreen, 75 is only good for far as fuck away like on couch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blZUao2jTGA

>>166728383
I said small why are you talking about aspect ratios

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was this all just a big lie?

>>166728596
soon(tm)

>>166728596
no that'll be next year's smissmas update

>>166722745
>it saved the game
>clearly its the problem

>>166728383
>3:4 ratio
what
that doesn't exist

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>>166729249
its not hard to figure out he was talking about 4:3

>>166729249
how about ipads

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Share loadouts you use for classes? Here a few of mine:
>Scout
A: Ayy-ayy-ayy
>Force-a-Nature, Crit-a-Cola, Sun-on-a-Stick
Cola will give you higher FaN jumps because it increases your movement speed. Sun-on-a-Stick is just for not dying to afterburn.
Crit will give you some uneven advantage but you'll be easy to roast somewhat. Especially if you get blistered by a flare. Crouch alot.

B: Boston Backstreet
>Scattergun/Backscatter, Winger, Boston
I generally use this one to dick around really. Winger for higher jumps then Basher self-hit to lift it up.
Basher can be used to help uber builds if you need to organize an attack. Backscatter is for messing Snipers actually.

C: Flying Chopper
>Soda Popper, Flying Guillotine, Sandman
Sand+Cleave combo is for filling the Hype meter easily. Popper can give you a hand when fighting projectile based classes.
Hype pretty much all around general purpose thing to abuse flank routes, or get around the Sentry fire line.

D: Sentry Dasher
>Babyface's, Bonk, Wrap Assassin
Bleeding from Wrap bauble will sustain the Boost from Babyface's so you won't have to suffer "no double jump" meta.
An accurate bauble shot will give 55 damage for free. Bonk will make you keep the boost and dash next to Sentries to infiltrate the base.

E: Alimony Tracker
>Shortstop, Mad Milk, Fan O'War/Candy Cane
Dedicated Spy chaser, not much to add. Shove is for interrupting their sapping FoW and Milk for tagging them.
Remember to check ammo spawns nearby when he feigns. Cane will drop a healthkit when he's really dead.

>>166729435
ok
that doesnt exist IN TF2

>>166729698
did you just type all of this shit you fucking inbred subhuman plebbitor
not reading this crap
heres my loadouts
>Scout
A: Stock - winger - basher
B: Stock - crit-a-cola - wrap assassin
i dont really use the others

>>166727528
I don't actually know the settings for interp
i had it on my laptop but its been a while

>>166730365
from comanglia config:
cl_interp .0152 // change to whatever you like for certain classes projectiles/popping uber/flames = .0152 hitscan = .031 on bad connections = .062

pretty sure the default is cl_interp 1, but i feel liek projectiles take longer to "be fired" on interp 1

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Tempted to open unlocked winter cases, how bad of an idea is it?

>>166730975
>how bad of an idea is it to gamble on a ded gam?

idk you tell me

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>>166731018
>dead game
The games below tf2 aren't considered dead.

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>Mecha Engineer's model says 'Engineer' on it in moonrunes

wow so tf2 was an anime all along

>>166731317
>looking at numbers
remember how looking at numbers was also valve's idea of balancing guns
they almost buffed the reserve shitter because of numbers
tf2 will never have a good update made by valve
it will all be community updates with maps and cosmetics and weapons and unusuals straight from the workshop
valve is so lazy it takes them ages to fix even the simplest and most common bugs
heck, they cant even make a proper anticheat system
its a ded gam

>>166731317
i don't think the game is dead but i don't think this is accurate. i think valve is fluffing the numbers. first of all, i only ever find 8 - 30 players searching casual at anytime, then ingame its commonly a 3v3 or only a bit more. okay maybe people arent playing casual, but that can't be right either since community servers have maybe 400 players in all servers. where the fuck are all these 50000 players?

>>166731952
Were you high while writing this incoherent mess, anon?

>>166731967
mostly idle
if valve removed idling somehow, the player numbers would probably be half of what they are

>>166728478
i assumed by small you meant nonwidescreen, 800x600 resolution specifically, not a fucking radio television. most people don't have such a small monitor though, even laptops have bigger 4:3 ratio monitors

>>166728596
>MEAT vs MATCH
god damn im fucking slow i just got this shit

>>166732195
where are they idling, private servers? and what are they even idling for, its not like hats or anything drop anymore just fucking crates and weapons. literally one cosmetic key could be sold for enough metal to trade for every single weapon in the game

>>166732487
economies of scale
you might only get pennies per week per bot, but if you have thousands of bots idling at once it's a pretty decent return for the amount of work you've invested

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>team has 0 snipers and spies
>pick sniper because my aim is kind of not shit today
>17 more snipers join our team

>>166732261
i play 800x600 @144 Hz on a 18" screen
resolution isnt always representative of the screen size
there are many different sizes for 1080p displays for example

>>166732628
a thousand pennies in a week is still only ten bucks, seems like a huge waste of time. but i will never say the game isn't dead because there is a supposed 50000 playerbase i never see because i know its just a couple of idiots who think ten bucks is worth a lot of fucking money

>do good as X class
>loads of shitters pick X class
has always been like that, except for medic

>>166732917
>Fucking around as spy
>Team holding their ground
>Suddenly notice we've been pushed back to last and can't push back even though I just got a sick 4 man chainstab
>Check scoreboard
>Most of the team is now spies because I'm somehow the topscore
Every fucking time. I just want to be a useless fucking spy, I'm not even good at spy.

>>166733080
did this match just happen? thanks for switching to med

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HOL UP
*trades cosmetics*
YOU BE SAYIN...
*idles for 4 hours*
WE
*scams an 11 year old*
WUZ QUAKE N SHIT

>>166733320
Nah, this was ages ago. We lost because I didn't want to play soldier or something.

>>166733039
only happens for classes people think they will do good for. so easy as fuck luck based classes like sniper, spy, and engineer, and nothing else

>>166733665
You forgot soldier. Soldier is a really easy class to pub with.

>join server with shit map
>dominate half the enemy team
>everyone leaves
feels good
if only those people left to join an actual good map

>fucking around in a shitty map bc tired ofall the tryhard solly mains in badwater
>another faggot joins the enemy team, starts playing shoot floor to win and dominates half my team
>have to leave bc half of my team left
why are soldier mains such tryhards?

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>go medic because team needs one
>everyone fucks off and goes in their own wild directions
>people ignore the spies and scouts which are going for me until i'm dead and/or they're being targeted instead
>soldier rocketjumps away from me and dies to a sentry like 10 seconds later
>gives me shit for not following him even though he flew over half way across the map

>play demo in pub
>just left click and right click with stickies
>idiots walk into the stickies instead of shooting them or going another route
>"Wow anon sticky spam is just slow no skill required"
>some teammates go demo
>they camp retarded places and surround themselves with stickies
>nobody ever comes

>>166734196
play comp TF2 (not valve mm comp)

>losing to sentry
>team is 6 spies/snipers
>aha this time it'll work
>it never works
>it never works
>it never works
>maybe this time!
>it never works
why the heck do they keep doing this shit

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>>166734196

>>166734567
>wow our spies are shit and aren't doing their jobs
>i bet i could do better!

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>>166734693
impressive very nice

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>when you see a pyro run around a corner and call out for help so you chase after him but it turns out he used the help voice line to mask the sound of him taunting with his phlog

>>166737280
>Chasing anyone around a corner
I've been trickstabbed too many times to fall for this shit again.

>>166734168
why can't you just get good and evade his splash
why can't you stop calling players that are better than you tryhards

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>>166737280
>when a pyro walks at you with their detonator out only to whip out an already kritzed phlog when you engage

>2017
>Still can't airblast phlog taunters off cliffs

>>166737660
At least they fixed being able to airblast people in the ground and minicrit them with the RS

what is yhe strongest gun in game if youmash all similar weapons (sniper rifles with sniper rifles, scatterguns with scatterguns)

>>166739548
so what like it would get all the stats combined

probably heavy's minigun

>>166739741
So it spins up 60% slower, deals 15% less damage, you move 60% slower has 20% slower firing speed and wastes 4 ammo a second while spun up?

>2017
>dying to phlog pyro taunting at the open

>>166734562
why not?

challange: balance a spy knife which has random critical hits enabled
hard mode: no "no backstabs" stat

i made it to the first page of r3ddit
karma isn't enough.

Give me yous

>>166734196
soldiers ingoring their medic is just like the pub GTA online experience

1 faggot in a supercar drives to the objective before the rest can even leave the street, complains hes dying alone with a 5 star cop level. Doesnt see how its his problem.

>>166739548
Rocket launcher. Liberty launcher clip boost would cancel out the black box clip nerf, so it'd be a beggars bazzooka that fires faster than direct hit rockets, minicrits on airshot, heals on hit, fires faster while rocket jumping and you can right click to fire charged shots that do minicrits and fire damage. Weaknesses would be a slower fire rate on the ground, no crits and less damage on sentries.

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Name one (1) better Rocket Launcher. You can't.

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>get surrounded by enemy team
>phlog taunt as last resort
>someone knocks you out of the taunt

>>166727358
sauce

>>166743117
fucking how, they removed the uber but arent they still immune to airblasting and knockback in the taunt? ive tried everything

>>166742778
yeah but
>-80% splash
>-100% if you are rocket jumping
thats gonna be pretty hard with beggar's random projectile deviation

>>166743405
From my experience, it's not an immunity to knockback, it's a huge resistance. I've been knocked out of the taunt by a demo who detonated their stickies a bit too early. This wouldn't be a problem if they didn't have the uber still, seriously Valve it doesn't sound that hard to fix

>>166743080
crutch

>>166743405
i know if the surface under you moves you get out of the taunt, like a player/cart

>>166731425
wasn't that in the mecha update poster too

>>166743117
>>166743405
you can taunt a phlogging pyro with huntsman

its probably the one counter, and it fucking rapes their attack, you just have to be quick about it

>>166744102
explain

>>166743119
>http://www.teamfortress.tv/39150/paddie-leaves-froyotech
>I'm leaving froyotech because b4nny and I don't see eye to eye in regards to a lot of in-game strategy, along with the fact I'm simply looking to take a break from Invite and soldier in general.

>https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/5qffzj/paddie_leaves_froyotech/dcyyycs/
>I heard he's finding team in ESEA IM to played as scout.

i only subconsciously picked that up
seems like it's a rumor but i think he tried scout on froyo too so i'm pretty sure it's true

>>166744862
I'm not surprised. His aim is a lot worse than most other invite soldiers, and his playstyle doesn't really fit in Froyotech.

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=27111
Hah, get fucked traders. Let's see you operate those sites now without the ad revenue and cut from gamblers.

>>166743410
Oh yeah, nevermind then.

>>166743080
Good for pogoing and aim if you played a lot of quake. Same or slightly worse than stock for everything else.

>>166746473
hopefully geel the gew is next

>>166746473
Worked fine before the gamblers

>>166746940
Geel shut down Sweetstakes ages ago, didn't he?

>>166744494
the original's firing hitbox makes it easier to use then stock.

its a crutch

i want to be good at this game so badly
i've grinded dm everyday for over a year now but how little progress i've made honestly is so frustrating
i can't even out dm the average tf2c player
feels like i miss every second shot and whenever it matters i don't hit any shots at all
all that wouldn't be so bad if i played intelligently but i always fuck up and feed

should i just give up? are some people just destined to never make it?

>>166747619
>firing hitbox
dude what

>>166747619
no it doesn't, stock lets you shoot around corners at shit you cant even see but original doesn't. personal opinion as well i find stock easier to rocket jump with as well

>>166747681
It takes 10k hours to master something, so no just keep at it my dude.

>>166747619
crutches make good players worse
like phlog
or reserve shooter
or natascha
or sydney sleeper

having a rocket fire from the center of your screen literally cant make you play worse

>>166743080
Direct hit

>>166748549
Wasn't the Sydney sleeper garbage?

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r8 this set please

>>166747681
try having a sens between 10 and 40cm/360
try enabling raw input on your mouse, and getting a better one maybe
try getting a 100-144Hz CRT for 5€ (or in LCD for 200~€
try watching POVs of high-prem players of your favorite class

>>166749286
No it was always a decent weapon, its just even better now

>>166748549
>>166747753
>>166747696
>original users

rockets come from the middle in stock rocket launcher too as long as you are aiming at an object more than 5 meters away i think /around 700 hammer units)

>>166747681
the best way to learn how to play a game is to play specifically that game, but games like quake live for example give you skills that will carry over, especially gametypes like duel and clan arena(clan arena or CA being very popular right now its a good time to try if interested). i say play what you find fun and then eventually you will get better since you will keep wanting to play, maybe if you aren't doing too well, play non-pvp maps that can really help you learn the basics of the game like tf_walkway or the various surf maps which while aren't going to teach you any reliable application of the skill it will help you cement your understanding of movement in the game. recently i have been doing a lot of both of those things and i have noticably gotten a lot better

>>166749534
spy/10

>>166750053
does it straightens it's path at that distance?
i don't get it

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>>166722745

>>166749768
35cm/360
raw input, deathadder (might be too big, whats a smaller alternative that feels just as snappy)
i have a 144hz monitor
doesn't really feel like i get a lot from watching the raw demo, the amount of demo reviews is pretty limited i found, especially for recent ones

>>166750091
might try out quake live

>>166750805
if you play quake live, how you start will make a difference. if you choose clan arena gametype first, you will get better at aim and positioning, but you will not do well in duels at all and it will be considerably harder to try and learn dueling after clan arena because they play completely different in every way. if you want skills for team fortress 2, clan arena will help you the most but duel can teach valuable skills too like item/health management, fight/flight, and mindgames. there is also this thing called "elo", the lower that is, in general the worse a player is, with you starting with 1000. some servers will only allow players to join with an elo below or above a certain threshold, so join a <1700 elo server or something otherwise you will likely be kicked if you try and join. learn how to strafejump too, its not like quake 1/team fortress 2, i think there is a training mode now which will teach you that

>>166747539
the blogpost says its more about the appeal to turn steam money into real money
autobot sites might be next

I haven't played this game in around 3 years but I'm having urges to reinstall it for some reason. Is it dead/shit now?

>>166749879
The definition of a crutch is a weapon that can make a bad player compete at the level of a player of much greater skill.
I don't think me equipping the original is gonna make me compete in skill with blaze in MGE.

Why doesnt the medic have a hitler stache cosmetic?

>>166750662
sorry
you can post it next time

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>>166754008
t-this

>>166722745

Is there one than turns off unusual effects and paint?

>>166722745
so it will be a all year round thing
thanks for letting me kno

>>166722745
Hot Dogger wasn't that bad until it went all class.

>>166747681
watch Marxists class precepts videos on YouTube.
lower your sensitivity, and don't flick shots. aim careful and precisely. calm the fuck down. people that get excited/stressed in 1v1's start twitching and flicking shots and missing

Which spy cloak is competitively better?
Is degreaser still better than stock flamethrower?
Haven't played tf2 in a year so I'm a little bit lost

>>166722745
Why is the phlog and widowmaker there? Are all of engys buildings out of place then?

>>166754168
not him but there were some old solutions. though in my experience they didn't work very well, i couldn't even tell if it worked

and dx8 mode i think it is will turn off skins and shit but i also haven't been able to get that working either. hands are tied really, if you find something please post in the thread because i find that shit obnoxious too

>>166754785
Widowmaker is just futuristic and not retro-futuristic. I don't think the phlog is supposed to be on there as much as that bubble pipe he's wearing.

>>166753576
it still has more players than H1Z1, Rust, and Paladins

>>166754782
cloak and dagger is best for spy
doesn't matter what flamethrower you use, because the only time you'd run pyro is for airblasting their uber while holding last.

>>166755059
degreaser uses +25% extra ammo for airblasts now

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Ummm, so where the H*CK I'd that guy with the flair? He said he would post them in the morning and it's almost the afternoon! Did you think I would have forgotten???? I demand that you show us your collection right the H*CK now!!!!

>>166755436
you're only going to be able to airblast like maybe 3 times before the uber kills you. pyro is a trade, you dont actually play pyro lol

>>166750662
>>166722745
"if i post crying people ill pretend the people with hats are crying. When the only one crying like a bitch nigger is me" the post

>>166754698
thanks that channel seems pretty helpful so far even if he's just reminding me of things i should already know

will valve ever bring back halloween spells?

https://steamcommunity.com/id/IllllIIIlIIlIIIlll/inventory/#440

rate my inventory

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>>166747681
>feels like i miss every second shot and whenever it matters i don't hit any shots at all
There are different skills that you can work for accuracy, all differ from one from another.
Compensation(strafe aim and shotguns), tracking (minigun), leading (sniper rifles)
>all that wouldn't be so bad if i played intelligently but i always fuck up and feed
You need map awareness then. It's not limited to memorizing ammo and health spawns but knowing usual class positioning (porches, windows, catwalks; sniper and sentry sightlines. Balconies; pyro and spy divepoints) and height advantage. Knowing many different blastjump rollouts another plus to position better as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj6duP3Ynt0
^check this if you have 11 mins to kill.

>>166756187
it helps to watch the precepts for all classes, not just what you play. knowing what you are supposed to be doing is helpful, but knowing what your whole team is supposed to be doing will make you a lot better. It will help yoi recognise when to push and when to play back, and will help you predict what their team is going to do. Also, TF2Center isn't the best for getting better. Try Mixchamp or FACEIT.

>>166756616
both minigun and sniper rifle use tracking, not leading you dumbass

leading is for predicting projectile paths, like when using needles or grenades

>>166756616
all bullet weapons are hitscan retard

>>166731425
nice find, the update page was inspired by godzilla

>Check out Valve store
>It's nothing but thinkgeek tier numale garbage
With the exception of the figures of course. Somehow they managed to make some good looking figs and didn't have to stoop down to the ultra cheap vinyl scum layer.

A couple years back they had a nice button down that was a blu team engineer shirt but I can't find it now. Very understated and didn't have a bunch of autistic giveaways that it was a tf2 shirt.

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Hey guys
member when we all thought EOTL was gonna be a big update that was really cool and could save tf2 from all the hype generated?
I member
I member so fucking hard

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>You are currently on a captain cooldown (reason: inferior team performance) (expires: in 10 minutes).

dum frogposters

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>>166759086
wy u sey mean thing tu me
am tee eff tu playa

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>>166759086
pls no bully

Reminder that there are more existing unusuals than people playing the game

>>166758991
I didnt and im glad. They already said that arent focusing on getting more players, they want to first fix the game and balance it more, then they are going to get more people like they did with csgo. I played csgo when there wasnt this big ammount of players and is really impressive how they managed to get more people to play the game.

>>166759326
Reminder that some people have more unusuals than you have friends.

i had a comment on a friend's profile telling him how there were already 175 hats on the game, thinking it was too much
that was in 2011

Im expecting frontline tf to be a neat update, they arent just making maps, they have many new stuff: tanks, mines for example.

>>166758991
I never thought that, I always knew it was going to be all about the video.

>>166759659
Too bad they picked the jungle horseshit over Frontline even though Frontline would suit the game a million times better than the mayan jungle.

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>>166757072
And?

>>166756920
Is that so?

what are your favorite frontline and jungle maps?
my favorite frontline maps are cp_cardinal and cp_kalinka, both of wich i tried in lobbies
for the jungle theme i only seen cp_jaddou but haven't had the chance to try it

>>166760078
No, i think that frontline is not being developed directly from valve and when they finish it, valve will ship it.

>>166760092
hitscan travels instantly and hits based on where the crosshair is (it uses crosshair position for random spread too, like with the minigun) leading is the most retarded thing I've ever heard someone do lmfao. you're intentionally missing shots because you dont understand how videogames work

>>166760412
where can i see these

>>166759475
so one

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>>166761093
Have you ever watch how a Heavy main aims and lands a stray of bullets while slow waddling about? No? Then whatever you say bro.
>hitscan travels instantly and hits based on where the crosshair is
Traceline still needs to determine the distance. It's not lightspeed I gave you pages from valve wiki. We had this conversation 2 times before already.

>>166761398
you fucking idiot not this shit again
the tracers are not indicative of how the bullets register at all

>>166761398
the tracers are decorative. you're actually too dumb to play source games jesus christ

>>166761398
thats because of lag compensation

bullets dont take time to travel
they are not projectiles
aim them at the target and track (look at them and follow with them with your cursor directly)

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>>166761743
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/UTIL_TraceLine
I'm fucking tired. Read this or whatever. Hitscan weapons have bullet spread as well as shotgun pellet spray patterns. It's not down the crosshair always.

>>166762095
tracking is the most consistent and efficient way to aim all hitscan guns

>>166761116
http://www.teamfortress.tv/forum/2/map-discussion

>>166762095
what exactly does this prove
the game just calculates a line and checks for interception with players to see if you hit
that happens extremely fast so there is no need to preaim, it's faster than your framerate or the tickrate of the server you're connected to

the only thing that bullet spread changes is that you don't realize that leading your minigun doesn't help because the bullet spread is so huge

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>>166763130
Yea whatever.
If you were to get educated on laws of relative speed you'd know what I'm talking about. Bullet is so fast that it will look like a stopping object compared to your movement speed but shift and deviation will still apply when you are moving or twitching your mouse.
Instant hits are NOT instant hits because there will be server lag. This system is an intended part of the game, because not all players will be living next to the server origin.

>>166762887
It's just a difference of term. Depends on if you are standing still, moving or aiming at a really fast target.

What are your favorite kind of custom maps?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12212188

so after a map is made, how do you make the ground be all uneven and dirt looking?

say something like the blue exit out of upward, where the ground is all natural looking and uneven piles

>>166737382
>falling for trickstabs

>>166763861
>look like
as i said you can't see the bullet that's being registered, only a shitty tracer that's not indicative at all because it has fucking travel time and hitscan does not

it's a game, physics do not apply
relative speed doesn't even exist for rockets

ping exists you're right about that but if you clicked at a person in time x and you hit but your crosshair is off the person in time x+ping it's still going to do damage

>>166764613
i dont know, but if you make a map too flat it ends up being a soldier map (see granary) and if its too open, its a sniper map (see process)
badlands have a great balance of flat and curvy surfaces so all classes shine, wich is why i consider it one of the best maps in the game
theres probably tools to smooth out the "unevening" of the ground instead of doing every little bit manually

>>166749534
glasses dont fit

>>166737382
>walk up stairs
>follow the ground with my crosshair
>never give an opportunity for a spy to get me with my back turned
is commonsense a hard counter

is this real life?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnbQ52pNH5Q

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http://tf2r.com/knn5sfg.html

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Good trade?

>>166769160
No, bad trade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEPdM3CG82s
S A V A G E
A V A G E
V A G E
A G E
G E
E

>>166769427
no, just stupid and a hateboner disguised as """"""""""comedy""""""""""

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>>166769427
Whats savage is that he still hasn't recovered his subscribers a week later

>>166769427
>Being this retarded

>>166769427
>Scout so retarded he W+M1s right into a level 3 sentry
>Not knowing what fall damage is
>Spy is the only class that can handle sentries
Is this entire thing even worth watching? I highly doubt it.

>>166769981
And no it wasn't.

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>>166761398
>Heavy mains actually believe this
>Heavy mains actually think their class requires skill
>Implying your primary isn't just a giant rapid fire shotgun with no reload necessary
>Implying it isn't hitscan

>>166769427
Is this the new version of the Matpat video for edgy 13 year old instead of legitimately mentally handicapped people

>>166758991
remember when everyone thought b4nny, valve, and other TF2 e-celebs were going work together to fix TF2?

>>166766396
>i only use whats viable because i cant stand losing
rescue ranger and wrangler are not fun for neither the enemies or the engineer. pistol or pomson are much more fun to use and actually make the class more interactive. why not just play a tower defense flash game like bloons if you just want to indirectly play the game

>>166770932
Remember when b4nny was just this incredibly good demoman and not a guy with an overinflated ego playing a dying game?

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>>166771083
>incredibly good

>>166771009
I use the rescue ranger with the funslinger and you can't stop me.

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>>166771172

>>166771009
>Pomson
>Fun

>>166771009
I posted a Delfy video that was both entertaining and informative asking what the hell happened to my reality

What the fuck are you on about?

>>166771420
compared to rescue ranger its like getting the sticky jumper for the first time again

>>166771172
okay, but be warned, I'll out DM you with my Widowmaker, FN Shotgun and FJ

>>166762095
it is down the crosshair. the bullet spread is calculated after. hitscan is calculated based on where your crosshair is, faster than your computer can generate frames, so as far as you're concerned, its instant. Leading will make you miss, and you're a retard if you keep trying to argue against this.

>High Tier
>Stock Soldier
>Stock Scout
>Stock Pyro
>Demo with Iron Bomber+Jumper

>Respectable Tier
>Stock Medic
>Stock Spy

>Trash Tier
>Everything else

>>166769616
>only 500 people from the 139000 unsubscribed

wew?

high tier:
hightower

mid tier:
5cp

low tier:
flo rida

(LOLZ)

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>>166772234
>iron bomber
>high tier
on virtue of demoman just being an all around good class you are right but that is the worst demoman weapon. at least cannonballs can stop an uber and is devastating on defense near any stairs

>>166772370
did you not see the 500k drop in views on the 24th

and it's closer to 600 than 500.

>>166769616
Any idea on what happened after his rip on Paladins?

>>166772637
>this again

you have two primaries
try using your other one

>>166772637
>not adjusting your angle of attack to compensate for the shorter fuse time
>not comparing the iron bomber's 'rolling' mechanics

Hi dragonfag

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I have new gun, post soldiers.

>>166766396
It's always dustbowl for that fuccboi
Its like its made for russians

>>166722370
whats your opinion on hyperion clan server and top notch clan server?

>>166773291
top notch is fantastic. Gret servers, great people, no adds. It's great. haven't played on hyperion though,

>>166773412
i am vip on top notch, who are you, just curious. its my favorite server too

hyperion is the same kind of maps but really shitty people

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>>166772773
>j-just use the option thats over twice as slow!!!

>>166772963
>j-just m-momoove c-=c-closer you should be useless from far range

wow

>>166773480
Saltpork, but thanks to being an alaskafag, I only get spotty access to their pl server.

Do you think there's a high enough demand that an arena server could survive? I miss that gamemode

Alright so... I have asked this like a million times already, but I'm going to ask in just once more:
Stock knife, Spy-cycle, Kunai or Big Earner?
I'm not talking competitively, I'm talking for casual and fun.

>>166773578
>Not charging your stickies
>Implying any engineer worth a damn would build in such an open spot anyway

s-s-s-s-stuttering

>>166773770
honestly i dont know, the regulars are only on certain times a week that i doubt it would survive, might be worth mentioning though

>>166773792
Big earner for big plays, kunai if you're good at avoiding damage or getting that first stab on unaware shitters, stock when you just want to play spy
Spycicle never

bargain....................im a bargain hunter.................................................WOW..... 1 scrap................for a lot of that hats................YAAAA ................. YAAAAA!!!

>>166773907
What makes spycicle bad?

>>166773807
charging takes even fucking longer. why not just use a real demoman primary?

>>166773807
its obviously not meant to be realistic

>>166771139
you realize he's still the best demoman in the game by far, right?

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>>166771009
People actually use the pomson?
I thought that was the "I'm throwing this game" gun

>>166774668
no, the Pomson is the "I'm crashing this game with no survivors" gun

>>166773998
A slight puff of flames and you're useless for a quarter of a minute
It's a crutch for shitters and spy mains (shitters)
Your enemies will hate you for it
Your team will hate you for it
As soon as you kill someone the whole server knows because the ice crack sound can be heard through the whole map, so silent killer my ass

At least it makes pretty sculptures

>>166774668
>not going battle engie with pomson, pistol, and gunslinger
>not harassing enemy medic by removing 10 percent of their uber for every shot from your slow as fuck projectile with infinite ammo

>>166773578
if iron bomber is so bad and terrible then why does every second demoman uses one?

i would give you an actual number but tf2stats.net hasnt been updated since 2013

shorter fuse time is great and it means your bombs will explode within a reasonable interval if youre fighting others

also its your fault that you missed like 2 stickies
aim higher doofus

Is Chris' configs still good for low end computers? Haven't played in a couple years.

>>166774668
>not being the fun police
https://youtu.be/1ef9s-Bv5Ls
When are you gonna make a video about going to valve you fuck, we're all waiting on it.

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don't make me fall asleep

>>166779459
dude i fucking love dicks

>>166777761
your FPS is gonna be shit no matter what now

>>166779459
nOPe

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Maybe this dad won't disappoint me like mine.

>>166779459
DIE DIE DIE

>Forgot what vsh i had connected to last time
>History doesn't show
>Wing it
I've been stuck here for the past ten minutes downloading custom shit
Why did i even try

>>166780437
>Finally join
>My ears are blasted with animu music
>The freak is miku
just kill me irl pls

>>166779459
drootis hootis

>>166779459
airshottis

>>166777501
>popularity means its good
sniper and spy; carrying teams since beta

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Left or right?

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>tfw some ubered idiot walks over your stickies

>>166781194
A good sniper can carry entire teams, dude. Got carried in a pubbis by an invite scout playing sniper a while back, there were like 3 other snipers and I was playing funslinger and we still won.

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>>166781568
a good sniper would be a good anything else too, dude. a team of nothing but snipers is still at an inconvenience regardless of your one off success
>funslinger
we get it, you are a shitty engineer main, thats the most fun you will get out of that shitty class

>>166779459
=W= luv u bb

>>166781859
I don't main engineer, I just like making everyone else playing Viaduct cry.

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>>166779459
QWQ what's that???? A buldge??!?!?

>>166779459
oWo *notics ur airshot* What's this??!?!?!?

>>166779459
*nuts on ur face* =w= dam bb Das it

>>166779459
*shitposts on /tf2g/* _w_ im runnin out of ideas

>>166779459
pinkie pony patyy pppppp

>>166777761
try Comanglias. Chris's configs are outdated

>>166779459
*cums voilently* @W@ fuck that's amazing

>>166779459
wewewew /tf2g/ cant git a 4

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ive been away for a full year

which oldfags are still around

is the mumblejerk still around

>>166779459
*furry posts* ^w^ imma nuzzle u! *nuzzles*

>>166783386
the mji went to overwatch and other games. a few eu people left the irc, but everyone else is still there (drawings, magicmax, neppie, etc.)

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>team fortress 2 is almost to the point of extinction

>>166779459
*exsists* oWo so this is what it's like

>>166779459
OwO I post my weapons on /tf2g/ so anonymous users can name them OwO

>>166781254
left
fuck anime

>>166779459
>w> *shit posts till u get a 4*

>>166779459
goregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregoregore

>>166779459
<w < >w> -w- OwO my eyes are now open

>>166779459
Can someone just get a 4 already?

>>166779459
alalal

>>166781859
>funslinger equals a bad engineer

okay, you try and keep a level three relevant on 5cp maps

>>166779459
tags=straight_shota

>>166779459
I am so so sorry.

>>166779459
GLOBAL WARMING IS A MYTH FURTHER STUDY IS NEEDED

>>166779459
○w○ extra wide eyes

>>166779459
grrgh hrgg

>>166779459
Hit Direct

>>166779459
w yiff like the shooting star you are w

>>166779459
i am very sily ber

>>166784734
Original poster here add funny eyes to it like this ○w○ or this w

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>>166784859
For verification =w=

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The Dead Ringer has been a straight upgrade from the stock watch from it's inception and I hate having to check my K/D every time I kill a Spy.

I still use the DR constantly, though.

>>166785031
DR is only a straight upgrade if you're a shitter.

>>166772637
>not using stickies against a sentry
nigga you stupid

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>>166784734
Fucking finally
Post americans

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>used to have fun micspamming years ago
>feel like doing it again
>find out hldj doesnt work on w10
>install virtual audio cable
>cant get it to work

Why is it that when I test my microphone I can hear the music fine but in game when I press my mic button I don't hear anything?

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>>166786119
There's a new voice codec and it has a lot of problems. Do you happen to be playing on a Mac? Voice chat is completely broken if you are.

>>166786241
No I'm playing on PC.

I'm actually trying to play L4D2 but I imagine it works the same as TF2.

>>166786119
I've got the same issue in Dota, mic works fine, but if I try and give calls, Dota tells me ai'm muted

>>166754283
I think all hats, barring helmets like the nanobaklava and war head, should be all class. They could still have a primary themed class to go with but there are some hats that'd look really good on other characters.

Is the Le'Tranger a direct upgrade? I mostly use my Ambassador because I haven't been assed to fuck with spy since I got the amb like 4 years ago.

did you girls win your 4s match

>>166788813
i do think there's some hats and miscs that have no reason to be class restricted, for instance i would love it if the stereoscopic shade were multi class, but shit like the charmer's chapeau for instance has no business being on soldier's head

>>166789330
>shit like the charmer's chapeau for instance has no business being on soldier's head
True, but who cares anymore? The idea of staying within a certain class's style and within the TF2 style as a whole seems to no longer really apply. I love that they're converting more and more hats to be all-class

>>166789265
>direct upgrade
not at all, it's better for running away, worse for combat
depends a lot on your playstyle
also it's l'etranger go read some camus you nigger

*speaks to dotsy*

>>166789764
*glares at you judgingly*

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>he named his shotgun "plan b"

>He uses Facebook tier reaction images

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>>166790045
Think you can do better, cupcake?

>>166790261
my peanus weanus :D

>>166790261
pootis grootis

>>166790261
fuck i'm out of ammo

>>166790261
*wheezes*

>>166790261
rEFLECT THIS

>>166790261
Blue Mew Vita-Saw

>>166790261
shotgun

>>166790182
>He lays down and rolls over when normies steal our memes

>>166790261
the gunboats