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>Did not mind the 360 degree hitbox:
>>166660716

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Shills will post detailed information on February 8
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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>>166708734
did someone say 360 degree hitbox?
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I barely use this general, do we ever have Demon's Souls fight clubs or anything like that?
Been revisiting DeS lately but barely anybody plays anymore, so I think that'd be pretty cool.
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>>166708920
That time of day already?
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>>166708970
It's always time for big dancer butt
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>dlc2 comes out
>3 days later, major patch
>patch notes fuck everything up; making straightswords faster, buffing carthus range and AR etc
>everyone expects a major dlc patch so no one questions it
>turns out it was april fools
you mark my fucking words
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Is there really going to be no patch for DaS3 until the end of march alongside the DLC release?
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I'll ask here.

Top 10 osts from the souls series dlc included. Looking to make a playlist.
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>>166708920
With the Ashen one's legs stretched out like that, one can hope he meant to die that way.
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>>166709472
Probably hoping to remain stuck to her ass when she pulls away
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>>166709301

We haven't had a patch in two months, the longest duration yet without one. I'm hoping for a patch in February at least but at the rate From's going I'm skeptical.

I'm curious as to why there's no patch even just fixing the boss invasion glitch seeing as that's something From traditionally would want to stamp out, yet there's been nothing even addressing it yet. I think they genuinely don't know how to fix it.
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>>166708920
>tfw beat me to it
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>>166709693
T___
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Why the FUCK do the deacons in Irithyll wear rad blue robes and drop fucking plain white boring ones?
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>>166710129
Not even white, actually, it's salmon, washed out salmon.
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>>166710129
Because you can't have nice things.
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>>166710129

Same reason blue Cathedral and Lothric Knights drop the red version of their sets.
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Mfw that delicious moment where opponent starts to parry-spam against a two-handed UGS R1 and is bewildered as to why he's dying.
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I have a question about rings.

I am in journey 2 right now and I am finding +1 rings around. And for achievement I was told I need all the regular and the +1 and 2 versions. Do I have to get the +1 versions during my current journey, or will they still be around on journey 3 along with the +2 ones?

Because I want to try something fresh in Journey 3 and I've only the cinder left.
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Whats the best non-fat armor? I was digging the Black Knight outfit til I realized how it made my ass look.
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How does one git gud at rollcatching? Is it just a matter of predicting their roll and pressing R1 right after? Assume that I'm not using a long-reaching weapon like a spear or Washing Pole, is it possible to consistently catch people as they panic-roll away?
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>>166710129
Hey, at least you can always wear your VIBRANT baby blue default cleric robes, complete with goofy out of place turtle shell.
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>>166710129
>>166710472
Do you rike it?
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>>166710472
Don't talk shit about the turtle shell. That shit will protect you from the man pus
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>>166710472
Wat.
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>>166710129
it's a shame, but the red+gold robes are pretty based.

i wear them on my pyromancer with the monk's head collar, makes me feel like i'm playing my op magic build on DeS, nice and comfy :D
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>>166710472
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what do y'all recommend for farming twinkling titanite?
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>>166710841
Which game?

If DS3, farm thel boss with gives you the most souls when you sunbro and buy them.
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>>166710862
Why is everyone using discord a dumpsterfire?
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>>166710964
sorry, fucking tired

DS2.
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>>166710964
>>166710841
In DaS1, farm the Clams in front of Seath.
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>>166710964
what level should I be to get summoned for the boss in DS3?
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Is it too late for an FC?
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>>166711264
depends entirelly on boss.
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>>166711338
SoC
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>>166711410
In my experience you can get summoned for that boss at any SL over 60 or 70, I mean there are people doing it at lower levels, but above that is with most traffic, if you go higher than that you will just get summoned by people doing NG+.
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My friend has challenged me to an INT build using only 'knives' (daggers that aren't the Harpe, Corvians ect.) as weapons, what are my best options here?

Raw Bandit Knife with Great Magic/Crystal Weapon?
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>>166711721
Handmaid's Dagger restores FP with each successful hit if you're allowed to cast damage spells too
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>>166711721
that's all you need desu
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>>166710445
> Assume that I'm not using a long-reaching weapon like a spear or Washing Pole, is it possible to consistently catch people as they panic-roll away?

Yes, but you have to predict that they're gonna roll away and start running after them. So you need a weapon with a good fast running attack.
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>>166711208
For DS2 the best way to farm twinklies + dragon bones is just to ascetic the Dragon Aerie, kill all the lizards, repeat x100
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Does anyone play DaSII on PS4?
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friendly reminder that the following statistics have been confirmed by MrIwont4get.

>95% physical
>80% magic
>50% fire
>77.9% lightning
>80% dark
>75 stability (90 when 2h)
>22 str
>18 dex
>20 units
>A scaling str
>C scaling dex
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>>166711826
No spells, just melee with buffs and support spells.

>>166711828
I figured, I feel this run will be gruelling.
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>>166710406
Ng rings exist in ng+ as well, you can't miss them
>>166710445
Stagger your r1s or use a straight sword
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>Can bind items to start menu, for stuff you might not need to use during combat, which keeps the combat quickbar free of carvings and homeward gones and soapstones.

>Only has 5 slots, meanwhile the combat quickbar has 10 slots.

They got it a bit backwards.
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>>166711990

>paired greatshields
>quality weapon

I don't believe it.
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>>166712001
Yeah just go raw bandit knife then
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>>166711313
damn those nips wont share this secret game with us!
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Is there a good rule of thumb on what weapon +'s at what levels/zones you want in DS3?

I'm a bad so can use all the upgrades I can get, but don't want to get out of Jolly Co-Op range.
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>>166711932
is there a way that doesn't involve bonfire ascetics? I'd like to avoid things that can't be undone for now.
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>>166712120
Dark Souls 3 is a quality product, it's no surprise that the weapons reflect that :)
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>>166712119
huh you have a point

but at least you can return to the first item by holding the button
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>>166712220
Well that's the fastest way, but I think you can also farm them off of the caster girls in Amana

or just do a shitload of small soapstone co-op and hope to get some by trading the smooth stones in
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>>166711990
additionally

>functions similarly to valorheart during attack frames
>uses heavily modified caestus 2HL1s for its 2HR1s
>weapon art is a dual-shield bash with enormous width and range, and surprisingly, a very high amount of strike damage. (450-650) vs. other players at 40/40)
>only one 2HR1 is a true combo
>pressing L1 does indeed allow you to block with both greatshields albeit at a slower rate than normal shields
>you move as if you're wading through water while blocking with both shields, sprinting will change your movement speed to jogging speed
>after standing still when blocking with both shields for a small moment, the stamina regeneration deduction effect caused by blocking is halved
>relatively low durability at only 35 units
>blocking extremely high damage attacks will deteriorate the shields very fast
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>>166712173
The most stable is +10 desu

If in doubt just use a password
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>>166712375
>>166711990
>22 str
>18 dex

SL1 CAN USE IT MY DICK IS ROCK SOLID
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>>166712479

Remember paired weapons don't get the 1.5 STR bonus from dual-wielding.
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>>166712001
it'll be ezmode
>>dagger is easymode with quickstep
>>crystal dagger dps is insane
>>invisibility spell
>>backstab ko everything
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Oh man cursed greatwood fight is so much fun with a slowass weapon.
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>>166712779
Try it as a caster that isn't a pyro
>tfw pyro
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>>166712779
I took him on with great machete
Smashing his squishy points like the fist of an angry god
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>>166712887
>coming back second time around with chaosbed with you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M
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>>166712978
ive always heard this song before but never had a name for it

thanks anon
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>>166712978
Even the first time, you can just spam Great Combustion on its balls and the big arm. Drops that faggot like a newborn giraffe
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...huh, the second Wyvern at dragon's barracks is the one you run into when you start the game.

Never noticed that before until I went back to high wall.
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>>166711990
>>A scaling str
>>C scaling dex
oh boy it's another
fucking
quality weapon
in ds3
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I borrowed a mates copy of Dark Souls III on my PS4 to try it out and it's better than I expected (I expected Souls II tier)
Since the GOTY edition copy with two DLC's is coming out in March, I plan on buying my own copy then
Can my save data from the standard edition be used for the GOTY edition when it comes out?
I would like to progress in the game from where I'm now rather than repeat the three areas I've completed (Lothric, Undead settlement, the swamp/woods area)
How would you use the old save data anyway?
Do you just stick the GOTY disc in and it automatically uses the save data on you PS4 plus with the DLCs
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>>166713224
I was gonna say that it can't be the same one since you can kill it but then I remember that it just fucks off when you lower its health and flies away
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>>166713372
Wait, I am doing ringfinger's questline in NG+, but the dickwraith isn't dropping the red eye orb.

Do I have to discard the one I have from previous journey first, or can't you do this questline again?
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>>166713372

Presumably since it will be the same game with the DLC attached you can use the same save file.

>>166713507

No just killing the Darkwraith in NG+ is enough, just talk to Leonhard again after doing so.
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>>166713507
did not mean to reply.
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>>166713507
Sorry, I don't know
I'm a newbie to this game
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>>166713570
So before I put the GOTY disc in, I delete the gb save file of standard disc, but I keep the mb save file of progress, so the GOTY disc downloads the game data along with DLC data, and will automatically install thew progress from the mb save file?
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>>166713726

I wouldn't delete anything honestly.
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>>166713804
So just stick the GOTY disc in, and it will automatically add data to the standard disc save file?
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>>166713895

That's what I assume, even if it doesn't it'll be good to test.
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>>166713470
>>166713560
What is this?
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>>166712220
Shrine of Amana, work backwards and kill the Lindeldt Clerics while wearing farming gear. If you don't want to inflate SM, wear Agape as well.
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>>166713947
a chinese cartoon about meidos
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>>166713895
Even copies of the game that don't come with the DLC will probably still have to download the data for it because you can run into invaders or co-op phantoms using items from the DLC
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>>166714082
Could you be more specific?
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>>166711990
Literally who? And post screenshot of source or bullshit.

>95% physical
If this is true, my dick is no longer hard. Guess I could fix that with 10 Int and Magic Shield + Lingering though.

>18 dex requirement, C scaling dex
Don't believe it, there's barely five shields in the game with Dex requirements, and only one is a greatshield.

>22 str requirement
Bullshit, if they're greatshields (massive dual ones at that) they'll require 30 minimum.
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>>166714471
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfipI2XyFHw
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>>166711313
what is this?
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>>166714471
episode 3 of kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon aka maidragon has a pretty fake souls game/reference in it. i edited screenshots to try and make it look like a real game.

it's a really cute show though. slice of life + fantasy.
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>>166714597
>tumblr URL
>furries

>>>/reddit/
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>get invaded in swamp
>do the lying down emote in the water
>see invader after invader pass by me and never see me
>use the odd "I'm sorry" and "Hello" so they know I'm still there
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>>166714767
>I try doing this
>suddenly warp across the map to invader's position
>cursed
>*points down*
Souls on PC was mistake
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So I just started my first playthrough of DS1 in ages and I'm amazed by how much more I'm enjoying it than DS3. Something about the way the DOF blurs areas far in the background, how the character swings weapons like an inexperienced farmer. Enemies not insta-gibbing you with super speedy attack spam.

Everything feels real and connected and makes sense. DS2 and DS3 feel like loosely collected memories or dreams all mashed together and loosely rationalized. I enjoyed the painted world of ariamis much more than the entire ariandel DLC.

Killed Priscilla by the skin of my teeth on the second try, never killed her before for whatever reason. I should play demon's souls next.
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Is Millwood greatbow viable?
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>>166715015
Its good at dicking around with people and sending them off edges with its WA
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>>166715015
It's the best 'I'm a huge dick' weapon imaginable, especially with Obscuring ring
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>>166714976
Kek, I'm on PC but thankfully I've never had issues with lag outside the arena.
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>Please wait until all combatants have joined
>Total players; 6
>Remaining: 5

Been waiting 5 minutes. What gives?
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When should I be doing AoAoA? What's the recommended level?
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>>166715218
Nah, he teleported me to him when he couldn't find me

I had an amazing moon stab though where I ran all the way to the boss fog before slingshotting back towards the beginning into the invader's sword
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>>166715392
what level were you when you reached the cathedral
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I'm looking to making early-mid game copper and invader, would lvl 45 with +6 work?
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>>166709327
No specific ranking.

Gwyn theme
Sif theme
Nameless Song
Majula Theme
Longing
Demon's Souls
Maiden Astraea
HA - HA HA HA - HA
Lothric and Lorian theme
Gravelord Nito theme

out of left field bonus - Skeleton Lords
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>>166714608

They're wooden though and wooden greatshields are shit

What makes you think that dual wooden greatshields will be good instead of double shit
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>tfw dumbass niggers invade me in road of sacrifices
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invaders are so pitiful
playing through the game and they struggle so hard to kill me when I'm by myself. haven't died once when I was invaded.

It's funny how sometimes there's this invader thought where as long as I don't heal they don't.

Also funny when heysel goes after dogwatchs.
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>>166715636
?
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Ok so I put 11 points into endurance after 20 and I just found out the soft cap is 20 in DS2. Does this mean I fucked up? I just wish there was some outline online for mostly melee characters, fuck
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>>166708920
BRRRRRRRRRTRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP
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>>166717069
!TOXIC!
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What's a fun DS2 build?
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>Force co-oping players
>They all swing at me thinking I'm a dark spirit
>Help them beat boss instead
>Get thank you mail constantly

oh man this is hilarious. Just as good as boss invasions.
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>>166715998
Burnt Ivory King
Gwyn Theme
Yhorm the Giant
Gwynevere, Princess of Sunlight
Old Dragonslayer
Looking Glass Knight
Sinh, the Slumbering Dragon
Fume Knight
Oceiros, the Consumed King /w Dialogue
Alonne
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>>166717183
Powerstanced bonefist is the most fun you'll ever have
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I got the fade ending.

It felt really bad, like really really bad, but it is the right thing to do.
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Does upgrading my magic stick increase magic buff damage? I have never used one before.
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>dialogue says tee hee
>it's more like a hm-hrm-hum chuckle
Scammed
Also what's some hot armor for this chick? Somehow nearly none just doesn't do it for me
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What are fun pyromancering weapons?
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>>166717482
Onyx blade
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>>166717357
Yes
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>>166717397
desert sorceress shit, lion mage skirt.
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>>166717397
Smelter demon armor
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>>166717482
Anything chaos/dark infused. Or raw with flame buff. Try and go for something with low stat requirements. Also, witches locks.
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Hmm... About to start NG+2, kinda want to do a pyromancer run this time, but I have no idea how I should distribute my stats at SL 120.

INT and FAI to 40 and then attunement? Should I get Dex aswell or does that affect pyromancy in DS3?
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>>166717397
Desert sorceress top is mandatory. Legs are optional but desert sorceress legs goes fine with her too.
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>fighting Chreighton on ng++
>trying to keep Sirris alive on ng++
this is some kinda' hell
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So what's wrong with DS2 that makes people not like it?
I've been playing the SOTFS edition and I'm really digging it
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>>166717941
It's only sin is that it's not as good as the other games.
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>>166717941
get out of here now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>166717941
kind of ugly, controls felt clunky, soul memory was horrible if you liked co-op, most of the environments were kind of meh.

everyone was havel, it was bad for cheaters on PC compared to DS3 that I've noticed.

DLC were pretty fun, and I liked some of the covenant stuff, and the bonfire showing where people in your range were. It felt off compared to the previous game tho.
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>>166717793
Int and faith to 40, attunement to 30 at least, and then str and dex to whatever you need for your chosen weapons. I also recommend 14 endurance and around 30 vitality. Beyond that, it's free game.
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>>166711990
Where did he confirm it, one of his videos ? Did he also confirm anything else ?
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>>166717941
ADP makes earlygame rolling fucking garbage. The hitboxes in every game are janky but its super noticeable in ds2 because you have garbage Iframes early

Vanilla had really bad Ai to try and stop circle strafers so everyone has PTSD of 360 overheads

Limited invasion items and some drops were limited to once-per-playthrough npc phantoms and they arent guaranteed

Soul memeory


Honestly Ds2 did alot of stuff right and interesting and from some of the info we've got about its development (Stuff like the director changing and having to rebuild the entire game in a year)
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>>166717793
40/40 is fine. 30 attunement is good. Dex does affect casting speed but you're better off just using the sage ring. Don't forget to use atleast one pyromancy boosting ring.
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>>166709327
One who Craves Souls (DeS)
Nameless Song (DaS)
Demon's Souls (DeS)
Deacons of the Deep (DaS3)
Dragonslayer Armor (DaS3)
PLEASE, HELP ME EUUUUUUUHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRGGGGGGHH *rattles cell door* (DeS)
King Allant (DeS)
Iron Golem (DaS)
Ornstein and Smough (DaS)
Abyss Watchers (DaS3)
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>>166718220
I miss invading sinners.
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>>166717941
It's easier to like DaS2 now because you weren't mislead by hype and false advertising.

I think generally the level design is kinda shit and goes against the central philosophies found in the other souls games.
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>>166717937
>Sirris r1 spams like an idiot and Hodrick 1hko parries her
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>>166718550
I'm shocked Hodrick didn't parry the rotting greatwood mid-fall out of his pit
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Oh fuck, I just realized my character will be 125 when I go with Yuria's plans because I fucked it up in this playtrough...
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>>166718550
>Creighton and Hodrick seem to have actual combat AI and items to help in their fight, can kick your ass
>Sirris gets duel charmed and gets stuck in a healing animation waiting until it can work
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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why are dark souls 2 characters so bland and boring?

i never realized i could get free shit from them until i endure tons of monotonous dialogue from each
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>>166719094
They entirely lack any sort of agency of their own. It's a problem that sort of plagues all the games, but Dark souls 2 has it the worst.
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>>166719151
Crestfallen in DS3 exhibits his own agency though.
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>>166717937
Why is Sirris so pathetic? I've even watched her die to Deacons
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>>166719274
Yeah, that was a really nice surprise. Never would've thought he would turn out to be one of the best npc's in that game.
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I love how confused people get when I force co-op into their world.
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>>166719318
miracles are shitty so npcs that rely on miracles are shitty
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>>166719327
boss invade bug as sunbro?

I've also done that.
>Hello I am here for the co-op.
>Blade of Moons spawns in
>eye icon lands on me
>they cannot attack me
>HELLO I AM HERE FOR THE CO-OP
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>>166719318
She's a dorkmooon and they're all pathetic trap-loving wimps
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>>166719484
>miracles are shitty
On NPCs, sure. But the rest is bait.

>60 FTH
>30 ATT
>Morne's Ring, Ring of the Sun's Firstborn, Lightning Clutch Ring
>Sunlight Talisman's WA at Melee range
>3~ shot Abyss Watcher's 2nd phase
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>>166719543
Kys slug worshiping heretic
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How covenant selection works in DaS3 is indicative of the failures in the game's design philosophy :
In BB you essentially select the covenant the same way, you pick an oath rune and put it on you in the memory altar. Practically the same thing but in BB they tie it into the game mechanics and settings so much more fluidly that it feels less artificial within the context and you have to earn the way to etch the runes into yourself in the first place. In DS3 they just allowed you to switch up covenants cia mickey mouse club patches you swap out without giving the new mechanic a way to fit into the lore even. It's how you also had le epin DeS mechanic like checkpoint per every killed boss without it being factored into the design of the levels so whoops now we got a fuckton of bonfires that serve absolutely no purpose and cut the levels into even tinier pieces.
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>>166716898
the only time to follow noheals e-bushido is for actual duels where one of you summoned the other to fight

if invadin's going on, there's no place for honor
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>>166719327
>>166719520

>dsg complains about hosts running around with phantoms and trivializing bosses
>literally force their way into a host's world to trivialize bosses for them
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>>166717018
You can respec stats by giving a Soul Vessel to the firekeepers in Things Betwixt, so unlike DS1 leveling shitty stats isn't the end of the world

but FYI just look at the stat screen and you can see how much you're getting from raising the stat

from 0-20 it's 2 stamina per point and from 20+ it's 1, so you're past the "soft cap" but it's a much less severe cap than e.g. Vigor which goes from 20hp per point at 49 to 5hp per point at 50
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>>166719851
>every post is made by the same person
autism combo breaker
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>>166719703
At least my covenant leader isn't Aldrich poop
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>>166720114
At least my covenant leader isn't Aldritch
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If you dualwield pyromancy flames, can you throw spells out faster?
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>invading
>gank sauad
>think I'm gonna be hot shit
>get my ass whooped
>same thing happens two more times
>finally invade a solo guy
>he still stirs my shit up on his own
Fuck!
>>
Why can't the dark hand be as cool as sacred flame? I just want to hit people with the weaponart. Darkhand has such shit tracking, you don't step forward, it's slow as shit, half of the time you don't even perform the succ against humans.
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>>166721080
Learn to Riposte
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>>166719094
They also never have any sort of resolution to their storyline with the exception of P8/CR8.
Getting DS3 afterwards with Sieg entering boss fog and giving Yhorm a badass speech was awesome.
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>>166720228
No, that would be too fun

Someone did say there was a hidden chaincasting mechanic though, but It's probably bullshit
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>>166721171
It's disappointing when Lucatiel's bad and good ends are pretty much the same.

Lucatiel's quest was pretty okay otherwise, though.
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>>166721112
But thats not the same, I want to be able to use lifedrain. As it is now, its only good as a twink weapon for le epic hornet ring oneshot parries.
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>>166721441
She was whiny as fuck. I would prefer the original concept of her being brave and foolish Don Quixote-like knight with belltower midget being her page.
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It's fucking annoying when someone summons you to fight dancer when your sign is at Vordt, but I wonder what reaction I would get if I summoned someone to fight Vordt from Dancer's door.
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>>166721906
I don't think you can.

Most if not all of the people grabbing you from Vordt to kill Dancer are low level people trying to kill Dancer after killing the Blue Covenant woman for some mental reasons.

Most of the people putting signs down for Dancer are well out of the level range to be grabbed for the Vordt fight.
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>>166721906
Just if they grab your sign by Vordt, and run all the way back to the dancer, then follow them. Once they cross the fog and the fight starts, crystal out.
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>>166722057
I am in new game +

I actually killed dancer first.
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What are NPCs in every game that you always want to help/save/keep alive? For me it's:

>DeS
Yuria and Frieke

>DS1
Laurentius, Reah and Anastacia

>DS2
Maughlin, Rosabeth and Saulden

>DS3
Greirat, Horace, Anri and Karla
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Ahaha, amazing, I just started my pyromancer run and decided to go kill Oceiros and just stumbled upon Sage Ring +2.

Off to a great start.
>>
30 +4
40 +5
50 +6

??
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>>166722249
I always want to keep all the NPCs alive :(
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>>166722249
>DeS
PLEASE
HELP ME
EUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
*rattles cage*

Brostrava too, I guess.

DaS :
Siegmeyer, Laurentius, Patches

DaS2 : Benhart, Cale the autismgrapher, Straid outta Compton, Darkdiver Grandad

DaS3 : Crestfallen, Irina

BB : Eileen, the Oedon chapel ass-goblin, Alfred
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>>166722430
hahahaha yeah my friend you've secretly stumbled upon an ng+2 ring in ng, ahaha yeah buddy
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>>166721906
I did this in an NG+ (Summoned at Dancer for Vordt).

They died.
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>>166722604
obviously it's a NG+2 pyromancer run, anon...
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>>166722604
Actually this is Journey 3, dipshit.
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>get invaded
>all he does is keep up a big shield, circle me, and try to backstab me with the dark hand
>whoop him and let him heal
>put on a ring to fuck up his stamina and shield break more
>this goes on until he's out of estus and dies
>look up his profile
>14 hours in dark souls 3
sorry

>have another invader later
>have a sunbro for some jolly times, cool guy
>poor bastard doesn't know I'm in NG++ and is getting bullied by my mobs
>dies from invader and mobs
>invader tries to take advantage of me by myself
>he's a one trick pony
>empty him of estus
>with a sliver of health he bitches off into the mobs
>BC's out
>summon the nice sunbro back who sticks with me despite struggling with my mobs
I haven't dealt with invaders in quite a while outside of my hosts worlds. Is it the wave of new players why they suck? I'm awful at pvp I shouldn't be whooping people.
>>
>>166722749

It's not just you.
When I played last year I ran into all kinds of invaders, both as a host and as a Darkmoon.
But in the past month something like 80% of the invaders I get summoned for are

>Oh fuck my initial surprise backstab/anime art against the host didn't work um um um fuck what do I do now?
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>>166722749
>Is it the wave of new players why they suck? I'm awful at pvp I shouldn't be whooping people.
I'm new to DS3 and only lost to one invader (he was using chameleon and spammed me with magic missiles). Tbh I was expecting to get my ass handed to me in all of those invasions.
>>
>making myself coffee
>come back to loading screen
>wonder how I died
>it loads and I've blue phantomed in
I need to make coffee all the time now!
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Jesus fucking christ, pyromancy is powerful against all these bosses.
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Trying to host in DS1 is so fucking annoying even with connection fix. Fog walls sticking forever and causing bonfires to glitch out even when they go down, invaders immediately returning to their worlds after spawning, retarded spawn spots at another end of locations causing invaders to give up and black crystal out.
Jesus fuck what a shitshow after comfy DS3 dried finger runs.
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lol someone gravelorded me in New Londo Ruins. As if I was going to search for their sign in that cave, I just backstabed the phantom Darkwraiths and was on my way.
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>>166722924
>>166722952
That's what I remember too. I'm expecting arena people with meta builds. I had another new guy who didn't know my weapon couldn't be parried and kept trying despite multiple hits from my great sword. It reminded me of launch, it was embarrassing.

I guess the scary invaders are taking a break until the DLC comes out. I'm used to some crazy meta try hard, not someone who barely knows game mechanics. It's weird.
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>>166723134
gravelords really need to work on a fucking ng
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>>166723159
that webm is the stuff of nightmares
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>>166723153
>I'm expecting arena people with meta builds
arenafaggots never invade
actual diehard invaders are always lower in numbers
like, take ds1 for example, judging by the statistics of connection fix there's only a small number of invaders and vast majority of them are only invading in duel spots, and people who are trying to invade outside of metafaggotry areas do it on retarded SLs which ain't really optimal for the areas, like SL60 for AL when it's an SL40-50 zone
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>>166723134

It's such a pain trying to find the fucking sign sometimes.

>>166723159

What spear is that again?
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>>166723274
moonlight butterfly horn, second best spear after demon spear
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How frequent are invasions and the potential of a blue appearing at low levels? Particularly with constant use of the dried finger and not having friendly phantoms present.

I mostly skipped over all online play in DaS3 on a character I've dumped all my time into and leveled far beyond any consistent meta point. So I want to start a brand new character and just see how things go with constantly getting invaded.
>>
>>166723134
>>166723159
>>166723274
Yeah don't invade in New Londo, it's too dark and tedious to bother searching for the signs if you want that from your target and the Darkwraiths spawned enemies there are just free souls and items for them unless they're shit at the game.
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I have a very complex question, but before that, I must check something : anyone here played Dark Souls 2?
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>>166723450
dried finger runs are always full of life, it basically makes you into one big walking invader magnet
be warned though, low-level invaders in ds3 are almost as overpowering as low-level invaders in ds1
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>>166722749
I was new just recently and spent a day spam-invading the undead settlement right after I got the red orb

Lost probably 90% of my invasions. I'm bad at game
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>>166723101
You will never find a situation where pyromancy is cheesier than pre-buff DS2 Darklurker, though

You used to be able to knock half his HP bar off with a single chaos storm
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>>166723637
DS2 pyromancy was only good pre-nerf, now i vastly prefer DS3 one, especially given that it still gets buffed with every second patch
hopefully bat demon's soul in DLC2 transforms into some fuck you-tier pyro
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>>166723481
>dark souls games in the dark souls general
that doesnt make any sense, anon
try asking /hgg/ instead maybe
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>>166723736
Just asking, because when Dark Souls 2 was out, everyone was saying it was shit, so I naturally assume nobody actually played it.

So yeah. What the fuck is that noise you hear when you're near a cursing urn and how do I rip it from the game?
>>
>>166723819
DaS II is shit, SoTFS redeems it some and makes it ok though.
>>
I've been helping this poor guy on Aldritch about 4 times now. He tries real hard, gets better each time, but just can't seem to figure out the arrow rain.
>>
>>166711990
>77.9 lightning
Why the fuck didn't they just make it 80. This is really triggering my synapses.
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>>166723923
Joestar family secret technique usually works against hail of arrows.
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>>166711990
they can't give any info up to feb 8th
eat shit
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>>166724061
No idea what that means.

Normally I just run away. As long as you don't get stuck in a corner it seems to work well.
>>
>>166724061
Beat feet!
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>>166724061
is this a jojo reference?
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>>166724101
It means running away
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>>166724101
Joestar family secret technique is run away until you can come up with a better plan.
>>
Just got invaded in undead settlement before I could get to the first bonfire, and I realized I don't know anything about how to pvp as a pyromancer.
>>
>>166723917
That doesn't answer my question at all.
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>>166723819
there are utilities for extracting audio from ds2's packages, just google them

no idea what that particular file would be call though, might have to sift through a bit
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>>166723917
That horrible laughing? Hate that shit.
>>
>>166723819
Why would you want to remove a helpful sound?
>>
>>166724292
Because I don't know what the fuck that is and I can't listen to it in game because there's the sound of the curse.

>>166724245
Fine, I'll try that.
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Profaned flame is the best pyromancy.
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>>166724247

>Going through Shaded Woods
>Hearing curse laughter fucking everywhere
>Smashing jars, dodging spirits, avoiding lion men
>Fall through what looked like solid ground into some dank cave
>Orange shit all over the place
>Could this day possibly get any wors-
>*Basilisk croaking*
>>
Hello friends, Dark Souls is my fav game i've played.
I didn't rly like DS2, I stopped playing around the bit where ppl pop out of mirrors because I was bored.

Will I enjoy DS3??
>>
>>166724475
How? It's mostly ineffective at hitting anything save for targets that don't know you're there yet and even then the damage isn't that great.
>>
>>166724573
DS3 is a direct sequel of DS1.
People who generally like DS1 like DS3 as well, unless they are poisefags.
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>>166724592
Ragdolling thralls into space is funny.

It doesn't hit as hard as chaos bed vestiges or have as great range, but it's funnier.
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Making an somewhat easymode high-stamina PvE build with a greatshield.

I'm thinking of using Curse Ward with something, but I'm not sure what weapon to pair it off with, I'm thinking of trying something different like the Warpick, Butcher Knife or the Great Corvian Scythe. I'll be making them Heavy because I've made countless quality builds before.

Which of those three is the most fun? Or are their any other good weapons to make heavy?
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>>166724592
you bait enemies, aim at your own feet then get out
all enemies explode and ragdoll into different directions
it's not as good as top-tier pyros but it's fun to use, same as with boulder heave which is the cutest thing ever
>>
>>166724573
Probably
DS3 is a lot more fast paced
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>>166724617
Good stuff, cheers pal
>>
Time for an unpopular opinion :

I prefer DaS2's system when it comes to ragdolls. It ruins my immersion when I can kick a monster twice my size off the ledge.
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>>166724509
Terrible, nightmarish zone. Never doing it again.
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>>166722749
One of the main reason invaders complain about dark souls 3 invasion is because a lot of them just outright suck and are used to way eaiser invasions. You can't just get 40+ soft humanity, 99 hard humanity and backstab the host to death with no effort anymore.
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>>166724691
use a fucking millwood battleaxe nigga
and WA greatshield
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>>166724729

>Invading as a Darkmoon

WOW
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>>166724204
i think you have to unlock and use free camera movement to aim your big fireballs so you can hit people coming out of rolls and shit
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>>166724802
if criminals don't come to police willingly, police comes to them
>>
What is the best way to make someone rage after you kill them? Chugging? Patches sitting? Point down?
>>
>>166724754
I agree somewhat, while the ragdolls in DaS2 were kind of buggy when you left the area and returned, no other form of ragdolls made body piles as good as you could make in DaS2. It played to the strength of the large groupings of weak enemies you could gather up in places like FoFG.

Plus some of them slumped up against walls and stuff after death in some satisfying ways.
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>>166724925
Heal during a duel, ideally while using a Carthus Curved Sword and point down after you kill them.
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>>166724925
Throw a Stalk Dung Pie at where they died
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>>166724925
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>>166724925
duelfaggots are the most whiny ones so don't play by their rules
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>>166724802
>tfw when invade as a darkmoon and befriend host and his phantoms
>tfw fight any other invaders for them and follow them around
Until From fixes darkmoon summon queues it's the best we've got.
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>>166724950
I really liked that. It made you feel strong when you explored an area after murdering everyone and you saw dead bodies everywhere.

But yeah, there was bugs when you went too far.
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>>166725053
>not using the full version
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>>166724798
I've already used the Milwood on another character, it was a good little axe, but far from different.
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>>166724815
I just threw destructo discs at the guy to obscure his vision, and then I slashed him with my Uchigatana.

I need to actually practice using pyromancy properly, this wasn't very efficient.
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>>166724204
early-game pyros are garbage with the exception of fire surge but it needs stat investment before it gets good too
rush to smouldering lake
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>>166724691
Any greataxe
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>>166725218
New game + 2, so I don't have to worry about it.
>>
Quickly /dsg/, give me a video of some shit player dying to Iudex a lot of times
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>>166725365
Record yourself.
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>>166725365

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpA32Z3GuEA
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>>166725389
>assumptions
I never once died on babby gundyr, anon.
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>>166725434
He's saying do it on purpose and record yourself how fucking insecure are you that you need to defend your skill in dark souls holy shit
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>>166725432
DSP bringing it loud
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>>166725516
What the fuck would be the point of that? I need genuine noskill retard footage, not a fake retard footage.
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Are there any chances that pilgrim woman from the beginning of TRC trailer was a narrator of souls game all along?
>>
>>166725434
>>166725591
>probably die to gundyr for 3 hours
>q-quickly show me I'm not the only one who's shit
sure man
>>
>>166725707
>assuming someone who dies to Gundyr for 3 hours can figure out how to take a recording
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>>166717941
Basically having to level ADP to 20 for any kind of iframes
Equip load and stamina being seperate stats
Looks kind of ugly in vanilla
""""""poise""""""
Honestly what
>>166718008
said is right. Coming off of 1 it was a disappointment, but it's a fine game.
>>
>>166725432
DSP montages always give a solid kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oA9IRIuX3o
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>>166725591
Okay but see
>>166725764
Why the fuck do you think the footage even exists then ya Dingus.
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>The Archdeacon McDonnell's trespass, the sin of channeling faith for sorcery, transformed what was once merely a symbol of ecclesiastic authority into a catalyst of sorceries.

>Golden Ritual Spear. A ritual spear presented to Darkmoon Knights before Sulyvahn claimed the title of Pontiff. Can also be used as a staff. Sorceries cast using this weapon channel the wielder's faith.

Friendly reminder that darkmoons are hypocritical losers and their church deserved to fall.
>>
>>166725826
Surely there were hilariously bad streamers other than DSP on release?
>>
>>166710862

stop posting discord shit on the thread
>>
>>166725842
This is the main theme behind religion in ALL games of Miyazaki.
There might be good religious people, but majority of clerics are corrupt assholes who has long betrayed everything their religion stood for.
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>>166725842
Fuck off slug worshiping heretic
>>166725875
>watching streamers
Fuck who knows or cares?
>>
>>166725842
>sulyvahn's flandre wings
>>
>>166726006
>heretic
i AM the darkmoon church
HEUUUAGH
>>
>>166724925
2 hand your weapon and repeated press L1 over their body.
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>>166726060
infinite stamina swings + disco-swords = bullet hell
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>>166726152
I've been invading the area after Sully and helping hosts kill Aldritch Faithful for hours.
I've noticed I get summoned more often than farming silver knights or idling when I do actually which is a plus.
In short Sully a cunt, Aldritch a fat cunt, you killed the best character in the series, your church is a stolen heretical cult and I'm going to prevent as many slug worshiping cunts from fulfilling covenant duties as I can.
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>>166726321
And the Dancer. Don't forget about the Dancer.

Sulyvahn did nothing wrong
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>>166726321
>best character in the series
>deceitful little shit with gayest form of majick - illusions
>best character
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Pontiffposters go away.
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>>166714704
oh wew
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>>166726557
Dancer was cool and all but item descriptions implies she was tortured and made into something not even human anymore by Sully.
>>166726561
>the cross dressing god
>uses illusions
>cute, dainty waifubait
>snakes
Literally the best
>>
>We will never have a separate Farron Greatsword/Farron Dagger
>The Dagger in your offhand spinny flips with L1 allowing you to basically use the ingame Farron Greatsword L1 with any weapon, provided you can one-hand it
>The UGS uses the unused Farron Greatsword WA, otherwise has AGS moveset
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Fuck Irithyll Dungeon. Fuck all of it.
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>>166726794
you rike?
>>
>>166726794
Haha, yeah, I just finished myself. It is a horrible nightmare, but good at what it is supposed to be I guess?
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>>166726663
Where's your yhorms rtsr morion blade dragonfag webm?
>>166726718
>was brainwashed into being a woman by his autistic father and a certain cursed ring
He's a victim of domestic violence.
>>
>>166726794
You can skip nearly all of it
>>
>>166726968
>was brainwashed
No he was raised as a princess and given a divine ring that gave him a slimmer waist and wider hips
>autistic father
Man I got nothing Gwyn's reasons for everything are vague and kind of autistic if you look into them.
>domestic violence
As autistic and crazy madman as Gwyn was I don't think he'd ever actually hurt his kids.
Exile one for fugging a dragon but didn't actually have the heart to kill him for it.

Ponti Suckydick on the other hand turns his knights into mindless slavering beasts and manipulated some fat fuck into eating gods.
>>
>>166726968
Just because hir sex was male doesn't mean hir gender was. The design even had breasts.
>>
where the fuck do i go after defeating dual boss in the dlc
>>
>>166727405
Do you have any plans to commit suicide by the end of this month? Just curious
>>
>>166727405
Oh fuck off, seriously.
>>
>>166727426
in the attic, and then home.
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>>166727405
>hir
God damn it I know better than to reply to trip posters but...
Brass Darkmoon Knightess refers to him as Lord Gwyndolin and Master
Yorshka calls him Dear Brother.
All in game descriptions refer to him as male.
He was raised as a princess due to having an affinity for moonlight but is very obviously still a boy.
A feminine cute waifu boy who should have been protected from Sully and fatslugcunt but a boy nonetheless.
>>
Was the profaned capital designed to be super short? It seems unusually tiny but at the same time doesn't have any signs of a zone that had any greater aspirations in its design at some point.
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>>166726869
>jailers bullying ashens ones
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>>166727654
>Bullying Ashens ones.
>sadonion.jpg
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>>166727594
Translation. Also women can be lords as well.
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Do you guys think prolonged wearing of the reversal ring eventually gives you breasts?
Also why are the Soulsborne games so fetishistic?
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>>166727563
?? nothing there
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>>166727698
If only there was a female equivalent to a lord.
Oh wait there is.
It's called a Lady.
You fucking dingus
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>>166727781
Except women can be called Lords too.
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Are there any souls virgins taking on Champion Gundyr?
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>>166727851
In noble terms the female equivalent of a Lord is called a Lady and nobles would get pissy if a peasant woman was referred to as a Lady.
Referring to a female as Lord is not only incorrect historically speaking, but linguistically too.
You fucking serf.
The reason lady has become a general term for women is because the times were nobles ruled is over and every man wants to treat his girlfriend like royalty and every woman wants to be a fucking princess.
Well they're peasants and the term for peasant women is wench.
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>>166726968
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>>166728048
False.
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Miracles are gay
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>>166728060
>no point down
One job
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>>166727563
she says door is open. what fucking door im about to slap this bitch flat with my zwei
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>>166728060
>132 souls
Looks like someone fucked up his timing?
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>>166728118
Sorcery is more gay
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>>166728082
You can't point at facts and say false you inbred mongol.
Anyway I'm done feeding the troll, hope you enjoyed the attention you sick freak.
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>>166728186
delet this
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>>166728060
Yes, yes, well done, Ashen One
HOWEVER
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>>166727712
>Also why are the Soulsborne games so fetishistic?
Are they?
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>>166726794
>good ideas despite being a Latria rip-off
>short as fuck with shitty loop arounds that have no interesting surprises or rewards
>only the curse jailers are the real threat
>their gimmick turns trivial once you know how to deal with it
I enjoyed it but after a while it doesn't stay as fresh as Lothric Castle or Catacombs. Knocking them down or killing them one by one becomes a chore so it's missing a pressure element that makes the enemies all too samey. I think a good idea would be
>enter the 2rat entrance to jailer funtime
>a jailer noticed the door has been open
>slowly makes for the room with the lone rabid undead
>opens the jail to the rabid undead
>he slowly walks out to patrol with the jailers

For new players. They will panick so for them it's either walk or fuck.

Experienced ones know that they have a timer to kill that jailer but have to face the threat of other jailers noticing your presence.

To make it harder to cheese, the door you open becomes locked ala Pate style and so are the other doors.

The only way to flee and escape their aggro or rape is to open a door first and get the fuck out.

While I'm already add it, add too rabid undeads in that room.
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How do i play with valourheart?
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>>166728212
There is no need to say anything other than, "false." You are spouting garbage, not backing it up, and there are female Lords even now.
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>>166727712
>Also why are the Soulsborne games so fetishistic?
Nippon.
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>>166728280
>While I'm already at it, add two rabid undeads in that room.
wew laddie fixed my typos
It's way too early for me and I need to go to work soon.
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>>166728268
I will laugh for all eternity when your shitty midgame boss doesn't return.
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>>166728276
Bloodborne contains like almost all my fetishes.
>>166728343
Fair
>>166728325
>Luci is wrong again
>tries to argue with historical facts
Never change /dsg/
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>>166728428
Saying I am wrong doesn't make it true, kiddo.
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>>166728394
And I will continue laghing for all eternity because YOUR shitty midgame boss will never return.
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>>166728460
False.
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>>166728460
>says false
>use same tactic
>saying I am wrong doesn't make it so
K den
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>>166728480
I don't care about the faggot, but at least trapposters are not as obnoxious as pontiff dick suckers.
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>>166728480
Wow, artists sure do slap some pretty obnoxiously large tits on a flat-chested mutant boy.
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>>166728523
How am I using the same tactic? I am stating common knowledge that anyone can confirm with 3 picoseconds in google.

You want an example? The Lord of Mann is currently female, retard.
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>>166728627
They are at least a cups though
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Is there a roll your build image for DS3 floating around?
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>>166728689
>Lord of Mann
>literally a title given to the head of state in the Isle of Man
>it's the Queen
That's literally the worst example please never visit England you are most unwelcome.
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>>166728480
Gwyndolin's fight was much more interesting and diverse compared to notDarklurker
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lol
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>>166727712
isn't gwyndolin a master of illusion magic

he's probably just stuffing a bra with mystical parchments
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>>166728852
I can't really blame someone for adopting that view. You just end up digging into mostly vague bullshit that doesn't leave you satisfied most of the time.
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>>166728834
Gwyndolin had like 3 attacks
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>>166728815
>Wemyn kant B lurds
>The Lord of Mann is a women.
>*autistic tantrum ensues*

I shouldn't really expect anything more from anons, but it still always manages to surprise me how retarded you can be.
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>>166728985
I never said it was difficult. But can you name a boss fight that was similar to his?
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>>166728996
I want to FUCK the dragon meido
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>>166728996
Women still can't be lords.
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>>166729036
Micolash

and it's better
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>>166728852
Well he has a point, they made up most of the lore on the run and it's like a puzzle with over half of the pieces missing
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>>166728971
That is also a good explanation.
>>166728996
Lord of Mann is not literally a Lord in the same sense it's a title given to someone holding a position.
The only reason it isn't changed to Lady of Mann for the Queen is because that would be stupid as it's not a noble title it's a job description
>everyone but me is dumb
Fuck off you literal autist
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>>166729089
Obstacle boss done right. Ancient Wyvern is hardly a boss through.
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>>166728996
>Wemyn kant B lurds
True.
Just like how women can't be and shouldn't be front line soldiers.
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>>166728971
I always assumed that snakes are also part of the illusion.
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>>166729220
I always thought it was weird the snakes aren't used for an attack or something.
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>>166729220
Do Gwyndolin's snakes have genitals?
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>>166729332
Seven cloacae

Maybe more
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>>166729298
>>166729332
They come out his boypucci
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>>166729298
>snek grab attack
>snek bite induces half bar of toxic
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>>166729419
>snek grab attacks can curve around the pillars
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>>166729419
>grab attack
>snek enters your mouths
I will leave rest for your imagination
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>>166729462
Let's slow down here Satan
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>>166729485
That's kinda hot
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>>166728460
>Saying I am wrong doesn't make it true, kiddo.

>got btfo by actual historical facts 100% confirmed
>THIS IS NOT TRUE REEEE FALSE
do you have mental problems
>>
This game needs a boob slider and breast physics
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>>166729396
Someone ripped the model and looked under the dress they actually start like just below the knees.
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>>166729594
FROM doesn't want to get sued by the fun police.
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>>166729542
OH
MY GOD
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>>166729594
Considering the physical demands of this line of work, female characters probably wouldn't have very large breasts to begin with. The mammary glands are just fat, which would be burnt to account for all the energy exerted by them.
However, it is surprising that From never tried this, I would have expected it sooner or later. The Desert Sorceress armor helped slightly, but not very much
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Why the fuck firekeeper has power to turn first flame off? Isn't it kinda stupid? Aren't they just normal humans? Even in Kaathe ending in the first das you just walked away from the flame, but now some waifu bait can just take embers away
I was in train and couldn't stop myself from wondering
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>>166729824
>The mammary glands are just fat
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>>166729685
I'd give his darkmoon blade some love if you know what I mean
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>>166729594
>Implying there isn't already too much waifufaggotry

This place is bad enough with the PvPfags, we don't need to turn into /tesg/.
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Why haven't you created a FTH PvP build guys?
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>>166730054
So are talismans supposed to be the thing you use for casting offensive miracles, while chimes are for anything else?
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>Cathedral Greatsword knights get that cool ass running poke
>you don't even though it could have easily been the running R1
>their headbutt could have replaced the kick
>you also get stuck with that shitty spin WA

>Cathedral Greathammer Knights get that cool buff that plants holy mines when it hits
>you get that shitty poise WA
>it's also one of the worst Greathammers
>it really should have just been a long mace instead of a Greathammer

>no Blue Cathedral Knight set
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>>166730114
Talismans:
>baiting dumb R1 spammers and poisefags
>emergency heals if you can trade the damage

Yorshka's Chimes:
>Strongest spell buff
>One of the chimes has the fastest cast time
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>>166730141
It isn't das2 so get used to the no fun effects
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>>166730273
DaS2 has some of the best examples of how shitty that kind of thing is though. Look at the royal swordsmen and royal soldiers wielding bastard swords and halberds.
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>>166730054
I'm doing one right now what are you on about.
My catalyst is gold ritual spear
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>>166728834
>worseCrystalSages
>better than Fumelurker
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>>166730398
>better than Fumelurker
I implied none of that.
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>>166711990
>dual wield shields were huge slabs of rock that scaled with STR in DaS2
>Miyahacki ruins it by making them wooden doors that don't block so great and scale with STR and DEX, yet another quality weapon
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>>166730360
Why would you waste your time?

>Raw Dragonslayer Axe +10
>Dont level your DEX or STR past 20
>Buffing it with Lightning Blade with Yorshka's Chime
>PvE content and most PvP encounters is a joke
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>>166730468
>more interesting and diverse
>sillyman probably has more magic attacks in his 2nd phase alone
>more diverse
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>go to toilet
>get darkmooned in while I'm gone
>come back and they killed a dark spirit who drops me a well kept concord
>drop an I'm sorry as I get teleported out
Fuck
>>166730590
It's a Gwyndolin cosplay build
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>>166730503
Don't lie, I mained Ormareeves and they had shit STR scaling.
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>>166714597
DRAGON SOLES
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>>166728460
Female nobility were refereed to as "Lady", and no, historically a woman could not be a lord, as that title was exclusively used for men.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord

Yes, now there are female Lords in 2017, but if you're argument is that Dark Souls takes place in the 21st century, you should consider suicide.
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>>166730778
>reading comprehension
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>>166730824
>D in STR
>"scaling"
You either infused them with dark or you were not using them correctly.
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>>166730782
>Soles

D-Dragon feet are kind of sexy actually...
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>>166730798
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord
LOL.
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>>166731016
kill you are self
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post sexy dragons
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>>166731295
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>>166731091
>Back to your cave
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>>166718220
SM is basically the only thing I hate about DS2. I'm more of a 'GOT MEDIOCRE' kind of player and SM is basically built to punish the players who need jolly cooperation the most by making it harder for them to find co-op partners.

The Agape Ring seems to me more of a 'Fuck You' than a fix honestly.

I don't really understand either, All it would need changed to being a great idea would be for SM to only count souls you've spent.
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I want to watch a DeS playthrough since i'll probably never get a console. Do you guys know any not annoying youtubers with one?
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>use dragon stone on my big buff manly man character
>turns into a skinny little dragon twink
>tfw transformation AND sissification fetish
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>>166731427
Nah, souls spent would not have helped. What they needed was to add a sliding scale. The further you leveled, the less SM applied, so by the time you hit level 100, SM had no effect on matchmaking, leaving everything to levels instead.

>>166731561
Just search for a no commentary one.
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who will give me +2 rings pls
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Stop arguing with the fucking tripfag, just ignore him and he shuts up for a while.
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>>166731659
>Just search for a no commentary
Wow luci, thanks for the advice. I totally never would've figured it out!
why the fuck is my filter not working
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>>166731670
which one?
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>>166730974
Goodness forbid you admit just didn't read the post carefully enough. I won't disagree that the STR scaling was shit but the O&R greatshields were STR weapons and it's ridiculous to make their analogue quality because people are already going to have to level STR and VIT just to carry the damn things.
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>>166730398
where can I find more from this pic's artist?
all search leads me into russian soul sites
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What are some things that you just completely missed for the longest time?
>I didn't know that some of the giant crabs dropped unique rings in ds3
And I had over 150 hours in the game.
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>>166731670
fap havel steel and cholr
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>>166731768
>D in STR exclusively is more STR than A/C in str dex
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>>166731812
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=3066775
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>>166731912
I explicitly said that the STR scaling was shit you dumbass, which gets us right back to:
>reading comprehension
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>>166731847
I didn't know Greatwood had a second phase until after my first playthrough. The fight bugged for me and I couldn't destroy his weird boil things.
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>12 days until spoilers
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>>166731561
What do you mean by annoying? Like loud and memey, or bad at the game?
I like watching Christopherodd because he goes in blind and isn't a fag who is a self proclaimed 'dark souls master.' He misses stuff and plays too cautious for my tastes, but he's decent at killing bosses, and doesn't rage. Also no facecam faggotry. I also watch distortion2s speedruns.
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>>166731970
thank you kindly
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>>166732018
Wait, he only drops if you break his boils? I thought it was just after a certain amount of health lost. Fuck, another thing I didn't know.
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>>166732135
whatever, i'm going to be balls deep into nioh to ever come to souls-related resources till march
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>>166732479
Yep. The ground just kinda breaks on its own after he dies.
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>>166732404
no problem
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>>166731561
letsplays by SA Goons are often pretty good
i suggest http://lparchive.org/Demons-Souls/
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>>166732567
Nioh is trash.
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>>166719151
Most Dark Souls 1 characters have tonnes of agency. What are you talking about? A good few Bloodborne and DaS3 ones do to.
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>>166732280
Both, i guess? Someone who's relaxing to watch and doesn't meme the shit out of you or dies to the same boss 20 times.
Odd guy looks fun so far, checking him out, thanks. Nice voice, too.
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>>166731650
do you have the reversal ring already anon

>>166732479
it's based on hp
if you break the bigass boil on his dick it takes enough hp to immediately go to the next phase, but if you go after the smaller boils first you can get like 3 before starting phase2
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>finally get darkmoon blade miracle
I'm moister than an oister.png
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>>166732018
>The fight bugged for me and I couldn't destroy his weird boil things.

This has happened to me too.

I'm amazed at how buggy DS3 turned out, you'd think that using BB's engine and reusing a ton of assets would've made the game itself smoother. I'm used to FROM being sloppy but it seems like they're getting worse about it, especially since it's months after release and summons are still janky and things like the item dupe glitch (and all its derivatives) are still working weeks after Bamco found out about them.
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>>166732853
it's not even that good
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>>166733128
I don't even care
I have it and it mine now
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>>166733226
well judging by >>166729920 you are now permanently gay
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Is it possible to see how many players are in certain SL range?
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>>166733403
AFAIK the closest thing we had was active areas in your range being highlighted in SotFS and AFAIK DS3 didn't bring that back.
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>>166733394
Yes, anon, that was the point
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>>166733521
>FROM constantly making random features worse
it's never 2 steps forward and 1 step back, it's always more like 6 and 5
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>>166732684
stay mad jelly pcuck
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>>166723134
>>166723274
>>166723468
>trying to kill a Gravelord especially in a place like New Londo
Gravelords bless you with Nito's love and even more chances for free slabs from BP Darkwraiths and you wanna kill them?
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>>166733521
Fuck, I think I'm all alone at 150. Didn't check Sully, tho.
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>>166733760
>mmo tier inventory/equipment system
>damage numbers all over the screen
i'm not even playing souls on pc, faggit
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>>166733760
u fuck uf uck fu cuf uckfccufkf FUCK FUCKu f uKCU
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>>166733394
>they're both me
Top fucking kek, according to myself I am permanently gay.
It's not gay if one or both of us is in a skirt right? Or the balls don't touch? Just gotta say no homo, right?
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>>166733760
>they'll add PvP in a patch
>it'll be shitty arena
>you'll most probably have to choose from a set of equipment setups instead creating your character like Souls
No thanks
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>>166734029
The only rule is not staring at each other directly in the eyes for over 5 seconds. Everything else is not gay.
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>>166734029
its ok as long as its a feminine moonblade
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>>166733760
>pcuck
isn't there a console war thread on /v/ where you can thrive you parasite?
fuck off
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>>166733983
Ignore that dude, he's just being retarded. I wasn't all too impressed with Nioh either, I liked fighting the monsters but fighting people pretty much always boiled down to me backing out of a series of attacks and then using the guard break over and over until I could grapple them because enemies and revenants did pretty much nothing but block.
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>>166734347
Oh shit I forgot that one I might be full gay then.
>>166734354
My moonblade is pretty feminine too
Does that loop back into gay because a double negative is a positive?
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>Iudex now has 2 times more health in his second phase and doesn't die to a longsword before even attacking
is the game fixed yet?
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>>166734758
You do realize what the purpose of a tutorial boss is, right? You want a challenging boss, go fight Champ instead.
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>>166734758
>Iudex
>die to a longsword before even attacking
post proofs
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>>166734831
Yeah i know, i was just really disappointed my first playthrough. Didn't even make out what the black stuff was before he died.
probably sholudn't have gone in right ater playing other souls games
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Fuck me

In the DLC, there was a girl in a small house before climbing the mountains to get to the church or whatever for the last bossfight

Who was that girl? She's gone
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>>166735030
>Didn't even make out what the black stuff was before he died
this is impossible and you're a shitposter trying to stir shit up
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>>166735183
What in Ashes of Ariandel?

She's the painter loli, if you don't talk to her your game becomes unwinnable.

She was right there.
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>>166734347
so then cuddling with a qt gwyndolin can't be gay because of that moon mask that covers her (male) eyes
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Holy knight Hodrick invaded me and got stuck on a fence.

He's now trying to parry the fence, he's been spamming parry for like two minutes now.
>>
is DSA the firstborne's armor, havel's armor, or some rando dragonslayer retard miyazaki is going to meme into existence in ringed city
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>>166735286
Obviously he didn't just fucknig die instantly, but yes, you can stay next to him and kill him without making out what the fuck is happening.
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>>166735398
Hodrick fell off a cliff for me
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>>166734758
Ludex was one if the hardest bosses for me because I started as cleric
Fuck from for putting such boss before I could even change my low range weapon
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>>166735309
It was the loli? Weird, I thought the first time I spoke to her was in the cellar, not in the house back there
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>>166735432
>Obviously he didn't just fucknig die instantly
>But he still died impossibly quickly and I'm a shitposter trying to stir shit up
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>>166735414
I think it's just some armor left by another dragonslayer from Ornstein's squad.
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>>166735574
Havel and NK were both a part of Ornstein's squad though, anon.
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>>166735336
Exactly!
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Is there any shortcut you can open in the 5-2?
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>>166735414
it's an unnamed dragonslayer who served NK and Ornstein
he seems to have found a good place in lothric given that his entire building is full of sunfag-related items like sunlight altar, sunlight medal and sunlight straight sword
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>>166735802
>it's an unnamed dragonslayer who served NK and Ornstein

you mean the one in sacred oath?

so havel.
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>>166735414
>DSA

As in the Dragonslayer Armour boss? It was originally thought to be Ornstein's armor but as you can find Ornstein's armor elsewhere that's been debunked. I think it's now believed to be what's left of one of the people Ornstein trained while searching for the NK, like the Old Dragonslayer in DS2.
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>>166735872
keep reddit theories on reddit fucktard
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>>166735928
>ninthbelief
>reddit theories

m8 thats the syan/lgk nigga
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>>166736020
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/5qeghy/the_master_of_the_dragonslayer_armours_identity/
i said keep this autistic reddit shit where it belongs to, degenerate
>>
>>166736113
how new are you? did you not play/post during DS2?
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>>166736171
DS2 has nothing to do with the lore of canon souls games aside from a few pointless throwbacks like a set of drangleic armour in a pool of giant's shit.
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>>166735802
>sunfag-related items like sunlight altar, sunlight medal and sunlight straight sword

While the kingdom of Lothric probably had way of white as their main religion, the lothric knights did sun worshipping. Those two religions or whatever were traditionally closely related anyway since they both were about worshipping the old gods of Anor Londo. We don't know if the kingdom of Lothric denounced the old gods(e.g Lloyd) like Carim did with their way of white.
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>>166736380
lothric was a clusterfuck of religions, honestly
they seem to even have an internal conflict between angelic faith and whatever branch of way of white or sunfag belief knights were acknowledging, because angel knight on high wall decapitated a shitload of soldiers and there's a dead angel knight with lothric swords sticking out of him
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>>166736252
>DS2 has nothing to do with the lore of canon souls games
>DS3 revolves entirely around thrones just like DS2 and its DLC
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>>166736752
ignore the shitposters
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>>166736752
It's not the same thrones, moron.
DS2 and 3 are absolutely different thematically and in some cases DS2 completely fucks up core ideas of DS1, like giving Seath his own soul for whatever retarded reason, when he never had one.
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Why the fuck do spells go where your character points, instead of where your camera does?
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what level goes with which upgrade tier?
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>>166736875
>face one direction
>point camera behind you
>cast spell
>it goes backwards
That's a dumb idea and you're stupid for thinking otherwise.
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>they removed tail cutting because japs complained
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>>166737029
How about when you're facing the direction you want to cast the spell, but you want to finely aim it, without needing to pull out the fucking binoculars?

are you really that fucking retarded?
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>>166736874
Read as: "No Anon, I did not play DS2 and do not know what I'm talking about."

You may as well have just said so in so many words Anon.
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The Furtive Pygmy was Jesus Christ
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>>166737159
Trying to put words in another person's mouth is really pathetic.
But that's to be expected from DS2 faggot.
Glad DS3 mocks your garbage game.
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>>166736579
Yeah there were definitely some kind of religious civil war going on in Lothric.

You had a winged knight with a blue tabard or whatever in the courtyard. There were also a blue lothric knight. You find these blue lothric knights at the bridge leading to Prince Lothric, together with blue lothric soldiers.

I wonder if the winged knight is allied with these blue knights and soldiers, or if the these knights and soldiers are defending Lothric from the winged knights and other intruders. They seem to be the Royal Guard.

You also find winged knights around the dragon barracks, but never together with any red color lothric knights(as far as I know).

The local common soldiers doesn't attack the winged knights and vice versa, so maybe they just follow anybody. We also have to consider the fact that they are hollow so allegiance might not be that relevant.
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>>166737101
i thought they removed tail cutting because they were lazy japs
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>>166737312
Heres that (you)
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>>166737358
>There were also a blue lothric knight. You find these blue lothric knights at the bridge leading to Prince Lothric, together with blue lothric soldiers.
Blue knight can also be encountered at high wall where he stands in a middle of knight's corpses.
Blue ones seems to be related to angelic faith, red ones are sunfags.
Same with blue cathedral knights who guard Oceiros since he went mad and embraced a paledrake cult which is probably a part of angelic faith.
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>>166737312
>Trying to put words in another person's mouth is really pathetic.

I'll remind you of that the next time I see you do it, but I'll point out that your first reaction was "but they're not the same thrones," which I never said that they were.
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>>166737158
I don't know a lot about coding.
But I know enough to know why that's never been implemented. Because it'd take way too much effort and wouldn't figure into the engine at all.
I see why it'd be convenient for players but I also see how fucking nightmarish it would be to implement.
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>>166737312
See you in 2 months.
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>>166737628
Out of all places, why the fuck would they bring back harvest valley?
I really doubt it's poison place
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>>166737628
Oh yes, it will be hilarious to see a fragment of earthen peak used just to mock the iron keep elevator exactly like Miyazaki mocked Vendrick in his shield description or Gilligan who fell to death from his own ladder.
>take the elevator in ruins of earthen peak
>it brings you to completely nonstensical location
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>>166737312
>>166737609
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>>166737759
They are going to bring back a shitton of areas because dreg heap description states that it's literally a mish-mash of areas from different eras.
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>>166737590
I don't think the divide is that clear. It seems you have different kinds of blues. A knight following the angelic faith would be a winged knight. Also cathedral knights originially came from Lothric going by their greatshield description. The blue could just mean the colour of the royal guard when it comes to these kind of knights.
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>>166737759
Because Memesucky knows fans love poison and swamps? and there's slutty fan confirmed
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I swear to god if dlc2 miracle is another trash tier spell with no pratical use i'll fucking kill myself
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600k souls and nothing to spend them on... And my vendor has no ashes.
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so what actually is the DS3 meme soullevel
i've seen 99, 120, and 125 mentioned in this thread
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>>166737792
>Started with DeS on PS3
>Thought DS1 was OK but recognized its flaws
>Called a PCfag by platform warrior retards
>Liked DS2 OK but recognized its flaws
>Called a DS2fag by wannabe oldfag retards who came in on the second game in the franchise
>Liked DS3 more than DS1 or DS2 but it's hard to talk about because some of the community can't accept that it includes things from DS2

Sometimes I wish that Souls had died after DeS so I didn't have to deal with this shit.
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>>166738034
Why do I get the feeling that a ton of people were asking Big M to bring back the Desert Sorceress gear, so he added in that fan instead.
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>>166738112
>sorcerers will get a cool crystal lightsaber with multiple modes, dark beads and homing crystal ball of crystal sages
>pyromancers will get a fan and nuclear chaos orb from the bat soul
>miracle users won't get shit
As it should be.
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I realized something.
The biggest problem with DaS2 is an extension of a huge problem with DaS.
The open-endedness and the resultant fucked up difficulty.
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>>166738126
Just run straight to archdragon peak, get its ashes and stock up some chunks and scales.
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>>166736875
in DS2 you could stick binoculars in one hand and your staff in the other hand and use the binocs to free-aim spells
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>>166738247
people can scream at ds3 for linearity as much as they want but it's the only dark soul game with actual difficulty curve
70% of ds2 is based around the same tier of difficulty, ds1's difficulty is all over the place as well
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>>166738224
Clerics BTFO
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>>166737614
I don't see how that would be difficult to implement at all

there's already code for shooting arrows in arbitrary directions, surely spells can use the same
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>>166738224
>>166738353
SH-SHUT UP W-WE'LL GET A NICE BOW
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Just did dragonslayer armor perfect to low hp and then he hit me from the top of the stairs with a sweeping slash while i was at the bottom rolling away and it killed me :^) love this game sometimes
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>>166738449
>bow on a cleric or paladin
wow that's going to be fucking (not) great
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>>166738449
>SH-SHUT UP W-WE'LL GET A NICE BOW
anon i love faith builds but even i know we got jewed in the ass
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>>166738636
>japanese jews
truly From are unique in what they do
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>>166738760
>Implying

Sony, Capcom, and Nintendo are known for giving their customers the sweet D.
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>>166738378
>there's already code for shooting arrows in arbitrary directions
Fucking where?
And don't say the block button because you can fuck right off if you bring up the built in binoculars
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>>166738868
>hitler worked with japan and hated jews
>now the japanese are jews
man he must be pissed up in heaven right now
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>>166737896
What the fuck is dreg heap
>>166738034
I hope it's useless
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>>166738268
Already did that during last journey, I am quite far from archdragon peak now, I just killed crystal sage.

Souls really lost meaning once you start a playtrough at the level you intend to stay at...

Though, I already went to 125 because I killed an important npc by accident...
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>>166739115
>I hope it's useless

Because?
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>>166739049
My dude, you do know he's joking, right? RIGHT???
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>>166738034
Imagine if the fan is a catalyst
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>>166738324
Yeah, it just hit me as I was going through the gutter.
The Rotten and his area is so easy because you can go there as soon as you hit 13400 souls. There are a few fuckoff huge difficulty spikes because I think the game intends you to do a really fucked up order.

Like I think you're supposed to do Last Giant Pursuer/ Dragonrider and Flexile sentry, go back and get Silvercat then do RRV, finish the other two then go back to do the "Bonus boss" Ornstein.
You're then supposed to get some upgrades from Lost Bastille then head into Shaded Woods or Huntsmans Copse, defeating Skeleton Lords, as well as getting your Pyromancies started up.

Once you've reached Harvest Valley, you're supposed to clear Coveteous and head back and fight the Ruin Sentinels + Scorpioness and head through the Doors of Pharros, fighting Ratman or just going straight on through. Then you choose between Belfry Luna, Mytha or Magus and Congregation, At some point around here you're supposed to finish off The Rotten, then clear Sinner, then fight Smelter, then finish off the last two bosses (Freja and ODK)

The problem is that most new players go in a straight line. Remember DaS2 release? The bosses everyone got fucked by were Old Dragonslayer, Ruin Sentiels and Smelter. Granted, people now know to just Strafe Right/Rapier(Or Mace) with dat ooze for an easy kill, but back then people did things in the wrong order and had these huge difficulty spikes. Thing is, if you do the Iron Keep as the second Great Soul or go straight from Pursuer->Sentinels, you're up against this brickwall for ages and then you just steamroll the rest of the game when you surpass it.

That's why DaS1 and by extension DaS2 are so fucking easy but with random as fuck difficulty spikes
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>>166739265
not again
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>>166739115
>What the fuck is dreg heap
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>>166739305
The first pyromancy catalyst that isn't a flame since DeS
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>>166738449
Bow will probably be awesome but most likely for hybrid builds.
Hopefully dex/fai, that one certainly needs a niche
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>>166739273
I'm about 100% sure Bastille is designed to be played and is much more enjoyable if you start from the No-Man's Wharf, and pursuer is supposed to be a late game optional boss with an alternative route, but whoever designed that FoFG part just fucked it up and now everyone does Bastille from the wrong side.
Futher proved by From slapping a petrified guy there in SotFS(which is what made me try Wharf route to begin with).
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>>166739530
>the bow will be str/fai
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>>166739118
Well, I don't know what you could do, my dude. Maximize 11 more weapons, perhaps?
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How the fuck do I consistently beat Sword Master?
He either goes down like a little bitch or he stunlocks/one-shot parries me.
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>>166739670

Whiff punish.
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>>166739639
>this will happen because "muh inhuman strength"
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>>166711990
I don't even give a shit about the stats. My dick is rock fucking hard that they finally gave us double-shields again.

Orma and Reeves were dogshit but holy fuck were they fun.
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>>166739589
If that was the case the Pursuer should be a lot stronger, considering you fight four of them in the bastille in SOTFS
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>>166739749
To be fair realistically bows should scale with strength but I see why they don't.
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>>166645084
A lot of this post is either subjective or an exaggeration. Dark Souls 2, square box rooms aside, does have some pretty nice atmosphere. It's nautical. Dark Souls 3, while it does have detail on its side, doesn't exactly feel like its "better".

>It doesn't need saving.
No, I disagree. Most of the game feels like it's a significantly abridged version of something else, with the exception of Lothric, which could have and should have been much larger. Lothric and Irithyll both don't feel like they're big enough for how important they are. Arguably Profaned Capital too.

Also, AoA should have been in the main game. It was enjoyable on its own but in hindsight it's a damn shame it's not a part of the main package.
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>>166739239
>joking
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>>166739828
The game is meant to be played Breadth first instead of Depth first.
Last Giant -> Dragonrider -> Sentry -> Pursuer->Old Dragonslayer -> Skeleton Lords/Chariot -> Najka->Ruin Sentinels -> Sinner
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>>166739838
No, the thing with bows is, the strength is only needed to pull the string, once the string is pulled all the way back, no matter how much stronger you are, you can't impart any more power into the bow.

Realistically the bow should scale with the length of your arms and the bow itself, anything else is your accuracy, which is governed by your dexterity.

So Strength scaling isn't that important for anything but keeping the string back.
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Has anyone got the webm of a guy in DS3 standing on a bridge doing loads of enchanted weapon spells and it's called sword mage or something like that?

I don't have DS3 yet and that shit looked fucking Nito.
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My first playtrough I stopped leveling at 80 and for me second one I stopped at 120, I planned on doing third one at 120 aswell, but I had to get to 125.

Should I just go to 200 or something? I like jolly co-op a lot, but I don't see myself being summoned all too often anymore.
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>>166740156
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>>166740069
Oh right.
So higher dex means more lethal shot.
Fair.
Dex scaling shouldn't be high either then.
What if it's a pure faith scaling weapon?
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>>166740283
That MGS is so shit.
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>>166737759
Because fromsoft LOVES revisiting concepts that they felt they hadn't fully realized the first time around.

Also, because the concept behind the new DLC area is a mishmash of zones through history all collapsed in on one another. You're going to see a tonne of references to old DaS1 and DaS2 zones. The concept is a blatant "let's try to incorporate some DaS2 content" since DaS2's whole setting was eons of successive civilizations all piled on top of one another and it doesn't really fit into DaS3's world in any other way than as a heap of trash from contextless background eras.

The nips didn't hate DaS2 as much as the west did, and even has a lingering hardcore fanbase for it. One of their common complaints about 3 is that their favourite game was snubbed. Expect this DLC to be littered with throwbacks to 2 to pander to them.
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>>166740294
The only way I see the bow being purely faith scaling weapon, is if it shot purely magical holy arrows.

The thing is, you need dexterity to nock arrows quickly, so if it uses actual arrows that are just blessed by your faith, I don't see a way around dex scaling.
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>>166740495
Boletaria when?
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>>166739115
Supposedly the transition area leading to the Ringed City. It's the collapsed mountain of medieval structures visible in the Kiln, but apparently incorporating more ruined civilizations than just Lothric.
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>>166740467
it's actually a very powerful greatsword, one of the best in its class, and its beams are highly useful in pve
they just need splash damage for it to be the best weapon in class
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>>166740541
>bow doesn't use arrows
>drains a bit of FP with every shot
>weaponart is a great arrow version that costs more FP and takes longer to pull back
I can see it working to be fair.
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>>166740562
50 bucks says there'll be at least one major DeS throwback that's obvious enough to be recognizable but subtle enough to not trigger copyright issues.
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>>166740220
>I like jolly co-op a lot, but I don't see myself being summoned all too often anymore.

If anything it's because you're going too high. It's an effort to reach 120 in a normal playthrough and I'm usually below that even on characters that do EVERYTHING.
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Okay, I am now convinced Profaned Flame is the best pyromancy in the game. It explodes behind your target, making shields useless, and you can use it to stunlock.

I am going to bully Friede so hard with this.
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>>166739273
It really just boggles my mind what the fuck they were thinking of with the pacing. What really stepped on my balls during my first playtrough especially was how three quarters of the weapons were arbitrarily locked near the end of the game. Especially infusions, which were stuck behind a dozen bosses, trough the longest section in the game, hidden off the beaten path after a really tricky jump over insta kill lava and great bow archers, in a completely different area from where the hidden blacksmith is with no indication that you should look for it there.
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>>166740283
Much appreciated man
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>>166732280
>guy breaks the chains holding a platform with loot
>loot falls down
>goes down and sees the loot
>where did it come from?
>goes back up
>what did breaking the chains do??
nice youtuber other than that though
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>>166738449
>literally just the Bow of Want with a new model
ehh
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>>166740708
Sorry, I meant aesthetically. It is indeed a nice weapon, I use it myself.
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>>166740719
does FROM not own the DeS IP?
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>>166740709
Maybe, but then, why would it need a bowstring, if the arrows are purely magical. In fact, why would it need a bow either, it could just be a wand that shot arrows. In fact, why would they need to be arrows, if they're blessed holy projectiles, it doesn't matter if they're long shafts with a pointy bit at the end, they could just be a pointy bit flying at your enemy. But then, it's really a blessed damage it causes, so it doesn't really need to be a pointy bit either, as the shape of your faith doesn't matter, it could just be an orb of blessed white magic.
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>>166740943
They do not.
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>>166740824
If it's pre-nerf BoW then that's nothing to ehh at.

That said, offensive miracles are boned in DS3 the same way they were late in DS2. Then again, DLC gear is pretty much always good because Bamco firmly believes in Pay2Win.
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>>166740943
sony does
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>>166740719
Dragon God King?
Ostrava?
Demonbrandt? Soulbrandt? Northern Regalia?
Rune sword and shield?
>>166740985
Why does soul great sword take the shape of a great sword?
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>>166740804
They moved it in SotFS from Iron Keep to Lost Bastille.
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>>166740943
It's my understanding that:
>Sony owns DeS IP and Japanese distribution rights
>Bamco owns Yuro distribution rights
>Atlus owns American distribution rights

IIRC back before DS1 released there were a lot of articles about how Atlus was being a faggot and not allowing development of DeS2, even going so far as to bitch about the glowstone in DS1 which is why your character emits light with no explanation.
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>>166740736
>If anything it's because you're going too high
I'm well aware, which is why I am going to just retire this character after I get the final ending, and make a fresh new character and keep it at 80 the entire time for whenever I want to sunbro.
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>>166741080
I just think it's silly that they'd bring back the Darkmoon Bow but make it an int weapon instead of a faith weapon, when dex/fth was like the entire darkmoon schtick, then give us a "new" faith bow in the dlc that's just a re-application of the DaS2 faith bow.

Shooting lightning bolts from a bow was a kind of boring concept in 2. Why would they bother bringing it back?
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>>166739785
>Orma and Reeves were dogshit
They at least had buttloads of damage.
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>>166741138
>Why does soul great sword take the shape of a great sword?

because sorcerers have more imagination than holymen. Sorcerers need to convince their opponents that their flamboyant spells deal super aggravated damage and that they can easilly swing stupidly large greatswords as an intimidation factor. The same reason subtle sorcery is subtle, it comes down to presentation with most magics.

But holy magic is just that, it's blessed to do one thing and it need not do anything but burn heretics.

Just blessed arrows work fine, because the blessing is enough to make the arrows strike true.
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>>166737628

Looks nothing like it
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>>166741319
what do you mean "bring back the Darkmoon Bow"? It's been in DS3 from the beginning.
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>>166741639
>anon in charge of reading
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>>166741538
Lightning spear is a spear because?
Like you make good points but sometimes things are the way they are because that's the way developers design them.
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>>166741479
It was nice.
That said, I'd prefer something weak that I can hit people with to something strong that can only hit idiots. One trick ponies get kinda boring after a while. Hopefully the new paired shields will actually have a decently usable moveset.
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We better be able to get that fucking banner as a weapon
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>>166741673
I know, I am just passing time while waiting to be summoned.
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Recommend me a good pve weapon for AoA NG+? I feel like a shitter using my +10 refined estoc.
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>>166741853
>it's a miracle catalyst
>the animation was just its unique heal aid animation
>it casts slow but has the best spell buff
>>166741875
I can relate to that as a darkmoon
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>>166741950
>he went through all of ng with an estoc
There's no hope for you anon
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>>166742023
>implying it won't be a glaive with an AoE buff for its L2
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>>166741673
lightning spear is a spear because Gwyn actually did have imagination, unlike all the priests and clerics who created miracles after him
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>>166741319
I think it's a necessity based on how FTH was eventually tied to lightning.
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>>166740778

Sacred Flame is a better bully tool for Friede.
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>>166736874
>like giving Seath his own soul for whatever retarded reason, when he never had one.

Weird I remember putting it in the Lordvessel.
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>>166742049
Not all of it senpai. I used a greatsword for a while. I also haven't played in a while so I'm absolute shit.
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Hmm... Should I actually consider using miracles along with my pyromancies?

I have a feeling that being stuck with just fire and occasional dark damage is limiting.

besides, I haven't used anything but Profaned Flame and destructo disc yet.
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>>166742068
>hitting people with a flag
That sounds too funny to be true
>>166742071
Well shit you got me there, Gwyn is an absolute madman.
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>>166741673
Spears were the very first weapon early mankind ever developed and the definitive primeval hunting tool. It's only natural that the game's creator deities would use spears to hunt their enormous foes and tame the unformed world.

Tribes on reserves and protected land still use mass spear-throwing to hunt big game. The spear bears a fundamental association to mankind's origin as well as to the act of hunting.
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>>166742127
It wasn't, and neither was binding fth to lightning. DaS1 did a very good separation between Way of White miracles and weapons (magic damage, force and aid spells) and Gwyn's lightning/sunlight stuff.
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>>166739174
Idk, just to see how many people get angry I guess. I mean does anybody really expect it to be anything above average?
>>166739421
>>166740643
Awesome, thanks
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>>166742336
Symbolically speaking wouldn't a bow be an evolution on the spear?
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I'm currently doing a DEX/INT build in DaS3. I know I need to go to Orbeck for a large majority of my spells but here's my issue; I want to get the Londor Pale Shade set and to do that I need to piss off Yuria before killing Abyss Watchers so that the Pale Shade will invade me in Farron Keep, and then Irithyll. If I bring Orbeck back to Firelink while Yuria is pissed off will I be able to cleanse my sins and then have her ask me to kill Orbeck or do I need to wait until after I've gotten the Pale Shade set and cleansed my sin to bring Orbeck back to Firelink in order for Yuria to want him dead?
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>>166742467
yes, the bow is a device that lets us throw a small spear much harder than we were previously able.
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>>166742564
if the sword was the logical evolution of the spear then where's my sword-shooting stuff
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>>166741138
Magic is commonly associated with "image" both externally and internally, the caster generally needs a strong impression of what they're doing to make it work, so when they create a "big magic sword for hitting stuff" they can use an existing weapon as a template to allow the caster to concentrate on keeping the spell powerful and stable.
It's faster and easier to recreate something you've already seen than to make something completely from scratch, and simpler to teach as well.
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>>166742673
the sword isn't really any better than the spear though.
pikes were the definitive weapon for infantry in yurop right up until the ottomans started using gunpowder.
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What are some must have sorceries? I'm doing dark sorceries, but I gotta round out my spellbook.
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>>166742275

For PvE? Pyro is enough. Profaned Flame, Sacred Flame, Chaos Bed, and Black Flame can handle everything. You can Profaned tough enemies to the ground then trap then in Sacred Flame. Black Flame for bosses. Bed for ranged.
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>>166742784
then if rifles beat spears why did europeans not start shooting small rifles from their bows
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>>166742340
IIRC all of the WoW miracles (I.E. what you could buy from Thorolund) were FTH based and did no magic damage. IIRC all of the Sunfag miracles were FTH based and did no magic damage.
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>>166742467
Yes, but bows are a more complex tool and suggest some degree of development and refinement. This is why bows are associated with the Darkmoons and Gwyndolin, who function both as a symbol for the civilization Gwyn created as well as a sort of inheritors to his legacy. Bows are better suited to hunting smaller game and for warfare, which suggests the transition from Archdragon hunts to hyunting smaller dragon-descendants as well as policing humans.

There's also the association with power and the primeval, and with technology being supplementary to deific power (a theme present in Greek legends of Prometheus), hence why the gods themselves use spears of lightning while their knights use intricate greatbows.
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>>166742887
WoG did magic damage and is a high ranking WoW miracle
Crescent axe and Grant both did magic damage and are WoW weapons
basically you just repeated what i said
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>>166739273
I enjoyed the convoluted path and having choices, it added complexity and a life to the world that wouldve been otherwise super linear like DaS3, trying to reduce mess ups like
<- made DaS3 linear as fuck.

DaS1 and 2 dont hold your hand, having a linear path is babbying the player and imo doesnt belong in a souls game.
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>>166742887
Every faith-based weapon was physical/magic split damage.
WoG and Emit Force both did pure magic damage.

The faith-based upgrade paths all added split magic damage scaling with faith.

Faith was explicitly associated with magic damage in DaS1 while Gwyn's lightning-associated stuff was an exception.
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>>166742502
I would try to bring Orbeck to Firelink after you marry Anri, Yuria will ignore Orbeck because that's her sidequest and not main. Alternatively I can drop you pale shade stuff/ morion blade & clandestine coat if PC
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>>166743185
You're forgetting Orstein's spear which scaled lightning with faith, which is gwyn's stuff too
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>>166743131
choices are meaningless if they provide you less options than single linear path does
ds3 levels are expansive as fuck and give you a shitload of options for making your build, way more than ds1 or 2
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>>166742784
spears are better than swords for armies both because they work well in formation and because they're cheap as shit compared to other weapons (only a smallish metal tip plus a big cheap wood bit)

but I don't think they're necessarily better for one-on-one fighting like what Mr. Darksoul does
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>>166742791
GFD
Swordsceries, particularly if you've got a stave with length on it
Great deep soul is nice
Also carry a nuke
Magic shield is hilariously good but obviously not a spell for casters. Real shame you can't cast from behind shield not really actually

>>166742871
>then if rifles beat spears why did europeans not start shooting small rifles from their bows
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>>166742564
I'm kind of hoping the bow ends up having flavor text relating it to the firstborn, possibly cementing Nameless as the firstborn, as a more efficient way to hit things with lightning over pouring faith into a catalyst to shoot lightning bolts.
>>166742721
So what's unbelievable about someone attempting to mass produce lightning spear on the battlefield using a bow?
>>166743039
Okay you got me there
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>>166743043
>WoG did magic damage

Well that's news to me.

Like I said though, FTH eventually became its own thing and was tied to lighting. IMO that was for the best, not everything should be centered around magic damage and frankly I think that the only reason it was in DS1 is due to the unfinished state of the game.
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>>166743131
Dark souls 3 isn't really that linear, sure it's more linear than the first game, but you can start the game, kill dancer, go kill champion, then it's your choice if you want to go to catacombs and smouldering lake first, before going to Anor Londo.

There are some stuff you have to do, before you can unlock certain routes, but the order you do is quite a bit up to you.
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Oh Christ.
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>>166743245
>if PC
Sadly I'm on XB1 but thanks for your advice and the offer, I'll probably hold off bringing Orbeck back until after I marry Anri.
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Oh FUCK.
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>>166743479
>XB1
I can probably drop off a coat or moron blade in about three hours if you don't have what you need by then
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How did Nito become the Rotten? Did he miss persephony so much he grew flesh? how does it work, does anyone even know?
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>>166743131
>Get Good at DaS3
>After killing Vordt I can go to Greatwood to unlock boss weapons without a load of fucking bullshit, go to Sage then Deacons, Go to Abyss Watchers or kill Dancer/Ocieros/Dragonslayer Amour/Champ.
>Then I can go between the Lothric bosses or visit Skeleton man or visit his crypt
>Then choose between Pontiff/Aldrich, Yhorm or Nameless King
>Final bosses are the Lothric ones I didn't do, Princes and SoC

It's not that bad once you know where everything is. Considering you can Dark Hand Dancer with ease after Abyss Watchers, you can get all the weapons you want fairly early in the game

The only stuff really locked away that can't be mitigated with player skill is Irithyl (Which is solid midgame) and Archives.
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>>166742467
No, they serve completely different purposes. There are plenty of periods in history where bows and various polearms were both carried at once.
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>>166743305
Reach is an overwhelming advantage in melee warfare.

The only reason there's such a fascination with swords and swordfighting in our historical conscious is because swords were expensive and symbols both of status and of technological advancement (metallurgy), and because mounted warfare necessitated a backup weapon to use in close quarters after a charge.

Plate armor caused issues for spears for a brief period but more advanced designs (which eventually lead to the evolution of halberds and other polearms) got around that fairly handily.
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>>166743372
DS games have had a shield crossbow, and like 5 different shield bash-em-inna-face weapons
we need some shield catalysts
disc chime doesn't count because ds2 isnt a real game. also it can't block for shit and cant cast while blocking
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>>166743894
>casting floating chaos and farron darts from behind shield
pew pew pew pew pew pew
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>>166743894
>DS games have had a shield crossbow
it was an absolute shit
wouldn't mind to see DS3 fixing it because the concept is good
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>>166743614
Shut the fuck up
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>>166739265
The fan was confirmed to be a Pyromancy. Basicaly a fire version of Soul Greatsword shaped like a fan.
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>>166710862
This is why Discord is a bad thing for generals.
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>>166743724
He didn't why would anyone think that?
>>166744064
Oh well, still pretty cool.
A melee pyromancy.
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>>166744064
The model looks far too physical to read well as a spell.

Not saying it isn't, but they really screwed the pooch on the spell FX if that's what it's supposed to be. It's like they just imported the DaS2 fan model, rescaled it like 500% and then slapped some charcoal resin FX on it.
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>>166743738
This is why i consider DS3 the best game in series for replays. Any kind of stuff with the exception of few late-game paired weapons can be gotten extremely early, including boss weapons. In DS1 to get MLGS i will need to slog through 70% of the game, in DS3 i get it under 2 hours.
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>>166744051
Dont get angery my son
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>>166744183
nigga, we already got melee pyromancies.
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>>166744064
is there a video out for it yet or just the image?

and why do pyros need this when black flame exists? From the looks of the image it actually seemed to not strike point blank, it's be nice if it were a long ranged horseshoe sweep instead of just a bigger and weaker black flame
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>>166743372
Thanks, my dude.

Also, if I wanted to try doing dark miracles, pyromancies and sorceries, would I best off with izalith staff and white hair talisman, or crystal chime and pyromancy flame?
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>>166744270
more synergies for parting flame are always welcome
especially if it works like flashsword
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>>166743894
>We need more stuff like what DS2 had
>But what DS2 had doesn't count
Sometimes I question whether this community really knows what it wants
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>>166744257
no lewd posting
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>>166744270
I don't count the combustion spells or sacred flame
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>>166743402
It could've become Divine damage. Gwyn's miracles were exclusively obtained through his covenant worshipping the Sun, and it's a shame DaS2 just clamped his spells together with WoW into some random vendor's stock and made WoG and Emit Force do lightning damage despite looking nothing like it.
And from all the good DaS2 stuff Memezaki ignored, this shit he just went and brought over. Fuck's sake Memezaki.
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So what all do we know about this DLC so far?
We have a trailer, a bunch of screencaps with some descriptions and that's it?

Do we have a release date or anything of that sort?
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>>166744443
how bout the whip?
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>>166744385
heck off
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>>166744383
>random shitposters on an anonymous board stirring shit up
>""community""
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>>166744481
>WoG and Emit Force do lightning damage

This is also news to me.
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Can faith get some nice miracles in this DLC?
pls guise don't bully
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>>166744242
DS3 is only rated so lowly because people don't replay DS1 and 2 enough.
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>>166744686
Hopefully, but I doubt it.
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>>166744663
Yep. They do magic in DaS1 and lightning in DaS2 because of 2's arbitrary stat restrictions.
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>>166744594
Oh right I forgot the whip.
Still this might be fun.
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>>166744663
Every offensive miracle in 2 does lightning damage. They made it universal that the connection between stats and damage types would be more intuitive.
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>>166744374
Crystal chime and parting flame.

The crystal chime has a far better weaponart, white hair only has the stupid pyro combustion. The izalith staff will give you more dark sorcery damage, but black flame is leagues better with the parting flame due to the spark. Dark pyro in general are better than dark sorc.

Bear in mind that past 30/30 the crystal chime starts getting subpar spellbuff. It scales all the way up to 45/45, but it's still subpar in the same way that a preist's chime is inferior to yorshka's at 60 faith. The preists scales that high, but there's no motive to use it over yorshkas. In the case of the CC, you have motive since it's distinct, but you're still at a slight loss. On the other hand, you're at an advantage over other tools if you're 20/20 or under (and meed reqs), but stuff like boundiful light requires 25 fai and GFD 23 int, so you ought be at at least 25/25. If you're going really high it might be worth using three tools.
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>>166744728
>rated so lowly
4chan is the only place that consistently tries to shit on ds3 and this place is full of underage contrarians
i certainly agree, replaying ds1 and 2 after 3 is a horrifying fucking slog where you're locked from a shitload of options for a long time
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>>166743724
Deep lore

Because Nito was an amalgamation of skeletons? His soul had a perverse urge to combine others(skeletons at this point) with himself? In souls1 there is another coffin next to nitos, there are also multiple carvings of wheat surrounding a woman either working on something or tending to a cot(could be a reference to the old greek myth of pluto kidnapping persephony((daughter of the harvest god)) and taking her to the underworld to be his mistress. But the coffin next to Nitos is empty and Nito just lays in his waiting, as if depressed or in mourning.

The Rottens soul explains that he embraces anyone thrown away into the gutter(he is an amalgamation of discarded undead/humans) much like nito embraced the dead into himself the rotten does too, He also has surrounded himself by carvings of a woman and becomes enraged when he cant put one back together, the statues resemble the statues that where in Nitos domain in the first souls game.

Thats why i think Nito is the Rotten and lost his persephony somehow, i just wondered how exactly he went from skeletons -> people.

Ofcourse this is all just a theory.
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>>166743724
Rotten got nito's soul nigga he's not literal nito
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>>166745038
ment to link
>>166744183
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>boss invade 10 times
>at least 4-5 are connection errors once the host realizes he's fucked
I mean, I'll take it, but I was kind of hoping to get some shackles.
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>>166745214
Either get them normally instead of abusing bugs or stop complaining you dipshit
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>>166745214
>boss invade lothric castle
>wait until the host triggers the fight
>follow in as phase 2 starts with obscuring ring
>shoot him off the edge with a greatbow
I don't understand why they didn't make this a feature from the getgo. Boss invading is by far the most fun thing I've done in this series.
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>>166743131
DaS2 did it terrible though. You are not meant to overwhelm the player with different paths you can visit from the beginning.
Especially if there is no incentive of visiting any of them and you're not sure where you're suppose to be heading at all
On the other hand, DaS1 wouldn't hold your hand but it would make sure the player had an idea of where he was going
DaS3 had a more linear path at first glance but you are left to discover the areas by yourself unlike linear individual levels in DaS2
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>>166744064
>fan isn't a catalyst
HAHAHA WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT, NICE MOVE
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>>166743384
It's not unbelievable, perfectly possible, but a huge waste of effort, a regular bow that uses magic arrows doesn't really have a place in a world where you can throw magic arrows without one.
It's a less portable, more complex catalyst that serves the same purpose, being able to create a sword or spear out of magic means you can have any number of weapons at your disposal, carrying around a bow that doesn't need arrows only gives you one and it most likely wouldn't be any easier to use.
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>>166744064
>was confirmed
nothing was confirmed yet
if you see anything that is not official bamco screenshot descriptions it's just shitposting, any info will only be revealed in 2 weeks
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>>166745403
>game about a half-insane hollow with amnesia aimlessly wandering through a sprawling, forgotten land with only a vague sense of purpose
>game is structured to facilitate aimless-yet-productive wandering through a sprawling forgotten land with only a vague sense of purpose
Gee wiz, it's almost like they did it on purpose.
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>>166744353
Maybe for the sake of completion since every other magic type get their own variation of an illusory weapon that's impossible to hit anyone with as long as their b button works and they aren't comatose.
Maybe they think since they've already added half a dozen of pseudo melee shitspells that if they continue to add more it will eventually cancel itself out somehow and stop sucking.
Maybe they've run completely out of ideas and are just regurgitating things from the last games that fans will recognize.
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Wait, so there's no way to become hollow unless you do some missable questline? You're basucally an infinitely respawning human?
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>>166745038
>>166745154
Just because they share a theme doesn't make them the same person.
Props for noticing the Persephone connection though.
>>166745503
True enough
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>>166728480
Clearly a boy. Lookit all the dicks, man! We all wish to be half as well hung as that lad!
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>>166745596
next thing you will tell is that this is a conscious design choice too
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>>166745403
>DaS3 had a more linear path at first glance but you are left to discover the areas by yourself
ahahaha
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>>166745418
This though

We need a sorc/pyro cat since the tinder can't cast pyro for whatever reason
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>>166745403
But thats not true nigga, talking to NPCs gave you a general idea of where to go and the rest was left upto the player, theres no exploration in linear games like DaS3 that have 4 optional areas and nearly everything is gated.

Lothric castle was one of the most linear experiences ive had in a souls game.
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>>166745738
Oh dont give me props, Hawkshaw on youtube really goes in depth and is very compelling, worth setting aside a couple of hours and watching his stuff, you will not regret it.
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>>166745691
you are ash, not exactly human.
but yes, the only way to become a hollow is to go to yoel
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>>166745753
what the hell is this, and where?
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>>166745691
You access hollowing by "drawing out your true strength"

So it's there in you all along, it's just buried under layers of god knows whatever fire magic that dragged you back from eternal rest as a slave to kindling.
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>>166746110
entire upper level of lost bastille is just hanging in the air if you look at it from below
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>>166746110
It's the fishing hamlet.
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>>166745981
hawkshaw is /ourguy/ he really should be more popular than he is, its crazy how vaati is so popular and this guy who discovers this incredibly obscure stuff within the souls world puts forward is reasonings and evidence in such a clear and concise manner... is sat with not even half the subs of a plagiarising piece of shit like vaati.

"i say 'weve discovered' in my videos because i dont actually do anything i copy what other people have figured out and then i say 'we' as if that makes it okay" -Vaati
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>>166745753
>false equivalence
It's so easy to tell when you fags get upset.
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Demon Prince
Archangel Sulyvahn
Heavenly Daughter
Lloyd, the Grey Giant/Judicator of Gods
Abyssal Archdragon
Crusher and Stabber
Gael, The Primordial Human/Dark Soul
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>>166746413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE2XZK3xiac
did someone say vaati?
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>>166738208
I'm not trying to throw shade or anything, but I think it's interesting and kind of cool that DeS and Dark Souls 3 are your two favorite games in the franchise. I've noticed Dark Souls 3 has a lot of Demon's Souls callbacks in it. More than I've noticed from other games.
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>>166746703
There'll be two bosses, just like the first DLC.
First will just be the bat demon, cut content from the main game repurposed into DLC to save development budget. The second will be whatever is triggered by that egg cutscene

The giant will be an NPC at best. The dragon, if it receives anything more than a vague mention in item descriptions, will just be a visual setpiece like the corpse over the mountain in ADP.

Don't get your hopes up.
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>>166743131
The levels(most of them) themselves in dark souls 2 are pretty fucking linear, to the point they become pretty boring. Dark souls 3 levels are really great compared.
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>>166746957
Awfully pessimistic, aren't you?
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>>166747323
This would only be pessimism if you didn't like AoA

Having realistic expectations helps you enjoy content you pay for by virtue of what it is, instead of lamenting angstily over what it's not.
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I really wonder what the shields will look like offhanded. I want to do a build with the shields on my back while 2handing another set of dual shields or the dual gs (if that'll actually be a thing) for the memes.
>>166744686
We're getting a cross catalyst. More jeebus memes
>>166746110
Looks like lost bastille
>>166740069
If we want to be absolutely realistic, bows should have little to no str scaling, varying str reqs and base damage depending on the type of bow, some dex scaling and random direction inaccuracy inversely scaling with dex. One could even have draw speed to somewhat scale with str
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>>166747310
Settlement alone greatly highlights how good DS3's level design is.
You have 3 options of traversing though it, and those options further branch as you progress the level, with one of those options allowing you to skip 99% of it if you're rushing for some item.
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>>166746957
>There'll be two bosses, just like the first DLC.
already confirmed to be more than 2
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>>166747432
>outside dragonslayer
>invaded by Jesus T. Christ
>lol.jpg
>seed
>trys to bring the elevator down to use
>take it back up as soon as its available for me to pull
>watch him take a hit
>see his healthbar fall to out of range

>he fell in the hole
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>>166747574
I can literally run through the entire game and only fight bosses its so linear.
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>>166744927
What makes parting flame good? It doesn't really seem all that good. I appreciate this thorough response, though.
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>>166747432
>If we want to be absolutely realistic, bows should have little to no str scaling.

No, bows should have str scaling, in that, you need to keep the string pulled while you aim, which takes strength.
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>>166747421
AoA is, so far, the only Souls DLC to have less than 3 boss fights. The Ringed City is kind of a big deal, I doubt From would fuck it up THAT bad.
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>>166747814
>What makes parting flame good
It enhances melee range pyromancies and gives you estus for each 12 defeated enemies in exchange for completely insignificant nerf of direct damage compared to normal glove
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>>166745596
>DaS2fags keep pretending their headcanon justifies bad game design

>>166745852
>implying anyone would bother talking to DaS2's dull af characters for some cryptic and futile directions
also, DaS2 may have multiple levels, but the levels themselves are more linear than anything in any souls game
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>>166747814
When you cast melee spells with the parting flame, it creates a small burst of fire directly in front of you that comes out very quickly and deals some damage.

For Black flame, this burst comes out before the actual blackflame itself and stuns your target long enough to guarantee BF lands. It essentially makes Black Flame stagger much sooner/faster. The damage of the burst + spell is greater than the damage of the spell alone with the standard pyroflame, so you compensate entirely for the lost spellbuff.

It's not as good for ranged spells, but the ranged spells aren't nearly as useful against other players, while faster BFs are very useful.
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>>166747274
3 bosses, final boss has 4 phases

thank you nipland
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>Fear not, the dark, ashen one.
what did they mean by this?
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>>166747997
Actually... When you think about it, it's 3 different bosses.

First it's Sister Friede, then it's Father Ariandel and Sister Friede and finally it's Blackflame Friede.
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>>166747757
>I can literally run through the entire game and only fight bosses
well no fucking shit, sounds like a souls game
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>>166747997
>4 phases
>each phase has its own healthbar
>each phase transition is a cutscene that lasts 30 seconds
>has some way of healing itself in at least 1 phase
>has long periods during special patterns where it simply cannot be hit, or where the player has to run out of range to avoid damage
>spams lingering area-denial abilities
Welcome to Endurance Souls 3, where every major boss fight must last at minimum 5 minutes longer than the last in order to have any hope of competing with 15 estus flasks.
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>>166748015
The Ashen One's canon name is The Dark. He's a bit of a coward.
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>ITP: I make an an autism post about some ideas for weapons

>Thelrox's War Axe
War axe of Thelrox, the crazed Mound Maker.

Thelrox raged against the thought of losing his tether, and was known to slaughter even his allies if there were no other nearby shackles to claim. The fire fused into this weapon and its Weapon Art reflect that rage.

Skill: Shredflame
Launch forth a flaming projection of the war axe that shreds and burns everything in its path.


>Thelrox's Pyromancy Flame
Pyromancy of Thelrox, the crazed Mound Maker.

Thelrox became intoxicated with anger and need when in the presence of another shackle to be claimed, and his flame only burned hotter when in the presence of multiple shackles. The user of this ravenous flame will too feel this hunger in the presence of enemy phantoms, and it will grow only more intense when the user finds himself preying upon multiple victims. (Boosts fire damage from all sources when invading a world with 1 or more phantoms.)

Skill: Weapon Skill
Equipping this pyromancy flame in the left hand allows one to use the Skill of their right hand weapon.
Thelrox primarily used the flame to amplify the fire that lied within his axe, and as such he never developed its own inherent pyromancy
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>>166748147
>OST changes every phase
>something akin to the theme of Daimon from DD starts playing in last phase
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That DLC trailer was actually really shitty, especially compared to AoA's amazing announcement trailer.
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>>166748132
>the level design allows me to skip everything except bosses because they have gated everything.

Sure does.
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>>166748015
Japs cant into grammar
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>>166748147
>in order to have any hope of competing with 15 estus flasks
at least they can actually compete unlike bosses in previous games
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>>166747963
>>implying anyone would bother talking to DaS2's dull af characters for some cryptic and futile directions

>no game guido held my hand
>i couldnt play game prooperly cus i casul noob
>gaem bad
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The farron dart tumblebuff really makes some good looking weapons.
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>>166749073
it pains me how accurate it is about bb
>5 minute wait to invade outside of nightmares
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>>166747574

And that's the only level where you can do dat, the rest are linear shit
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>>166749229
>And that's the only level where you can do dat
No.
Vast majority of levels allows multiple approaches or has branching paths in one way or the other. Notable exceptions are Irithyll (though it provides a choice between Pontiff and Yhorm) and Archdragon Peak.
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>>166749002
They look better with untrue dark ring.
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>>166749073
>implying forcing the host to DC isn't the actual fun in invading in DaS3
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>>166747876
That doesn't make you hit harder, it's part of the req. If you want to go that way, add steady stamina consumption while having the arrow nocked, inversely scaling with str
>>166748531
Bosses in other games could actually hit you in estus animation
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>>166749073
the waiter should be smacking the guy in the back for DS1 invasions
>>166749571
that looks fucking amazing
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>>166749595
it's the highest form of enjoyment you can get from invasions because it means your opponent got actually asshurt
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>>166748749
>DaS2 can't into natural, concise and engaging character dialogue which the player has to listen all the way through for useful information
>"its perfect, you're just dumb"
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>>166749624
>Bosses in other games could actually hit you in estus animation
like in ds3 then?
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>>166749624
>That doesn't make you hit harder, it's part of the req. If you want to go that way, add steady stamina consumption while having the arrow nocked, inversely scaling with str

It doesn't make you hit harder, it makes you more accurate.

If you can only barely draw a bow, you wont be accurate with it, because your arms will be shaking and you have to exert yourself keeping it pulled.

Which is why strength scaling makes sense.

Have you ever shot a bow?
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>>166749073
ds2 invasions were fucking easy though
sunbros couldn't even heal but i always had great heal attuned
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>>166749940
ds2 invasions are horrifying trash, painfully limited in every way possible
majority of sunfags ran around with warmth which is terrible for invader
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>>166749940
The core problem with DaS2 invasions were just how trivial PvE was in that game. You had nowhere to run or hide in a 3v1 because nothing on the map even registered as a threat to the group. Add to that shit like mage summons having 100 casts of dark orb attuned or the infinite combo juggling between two or more players.

DaS2's pvp worked fine in 1v1s or invasions against solo hosts but it suffered in the extreme in 2v1 scenarios, moreso than the other games. At least 3 allows you to one-shot phantoms via parryfishing or gimmick combos and all the magic is dogshit.
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Dark Souls 3 is 50% off on humble bundle, worth the price?
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>>166750439
Either buy deluxe now or get GOTY later.
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>>166750154
Nah, other than the seed of giant worlds they were pretty decent. Certainly better than 3.

You know you can make sunbros regret casting warmth by going and standing in it.
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>>166750439
yes
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>>166750439
Probably yeah, if you liked the other games.
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What sound does humanity consumption make?
Type it out.
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>>166749904
Does compound count? I understand there are technical differences. I think the continuous stamina consumption would cover that part. Make the inaccuracy also inversely scale with remaining stamina, staggering you and fucking up your shot if you reach zero. Does that cover the wobbling sufficiently? We're delving way too deep here though, unless we're making a separate, bow "shooter" game
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>>166750560
What does the season pass come with
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>>166750569
>soul memory creates an entire fuckload of balance problems, past 3-4m SM you start exclusively invading havelmonsters with 50+ in each stat

>finite orbs you need to farm or increase your sm, insane amount of forced farming in general if you want to stay in specific SM ranges

>agape ring is a late and half-assed solution that failed to solve virtually any actual soul memory problems

>cannot use any switches, open 90% of doors or operate 90% of elevators

>cannot phase through any enemies effectively locking you out of parts of the levels

>cannot heal with consumables while host has 10 types of them 9 of which go to 99 stack

>seeds, which also mean you can't even heal with miracles in peace by running to enemies

>host and his butt buddies are able to turtle in warmth which is even harder to punish than estus in ds3

>hosts can chug on a ladder which is extremely hard to punish in certain locations

>even if host dies he won't lose his souls because 90% of playerbase is rocking ring of sacrifice you can repair

>insanely short invasion time limit

>abundance of shit invasion spots, some of them can potentially lock you out of reaching the host permanently

>host can clear the area from enemies permanently so you end up losing the only invader advantage completely

>there IS a priority system which makes hollow hosts least preferable targets and coop partners the most

>you can be damaged during backstab animation

>npc phantoms with 5k hp and infinite spells everywhere in sotfs

>almost no chance of ever being summoned as a bluefag because host needs to dedicate a ring slot for something that won't occur in vast

majority of situations as getting randomly invaded in ds2 is almost impossible

>insane amount of duelfag pandering at expense of everyone else, with arena being the worst offender

>abundance of baby-mode items like jester top pummeling already low skill ceiling even lower
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>>166750314
>You had nowhere to run or hide in a 3v1 because nothing on the map even registered as a threat to the group
manikins in earthern peak /endless katana fags in iron keep/ spider hoards before torches were buffed/ anywhere in dragon errie/ literally anywhere in the dlc

i got tons of basically free kills

>>166750683
2 dlc
first one was REALLY short though with one mediocre boss and one good one
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I saw meme videos about using hidden body and spook, but I would've never guessed how broken pve would actually be using those.
You can literally walk in front of enemies without them noticing
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>>166749002
>they will patch this out before I get the chance to create a new Faith character and see how much damage a Lightning-infused LKGS buffed with Lightning Blade can shit out

Man, I just wanted to buff like I could in DaS2 again.
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>>166750683
>>166750769
Don't forget the pay2win weapons.
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>>166750959
one of the main reasons i love nioh so far is because it has even more broken stealth builds than ds3
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>>166751007
lothric gs and dragonslayer axe shit out damage with lightning blade
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>>166751202
CAN CONFIRM

I wanna say thank for the dude that showed me his Dragonslayer's Axe's stats. Shit's brutal.
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>>166751202
Yes, but on top of slapping on a Lightning Gem infusion? That's part of what made mage builds in DaS2 so broken once you beat Dragonrider, attuned Magic Weapon, and farmed up a Faintstone from a Basilisk or got lucky with a Small Smooth and Silky.
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>blessed weapon doesn't make your weapon shoot divine pillars like cathedral knights do
why, from?
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>>166751757
wait for ringed city
>everyone and their mothers now uses blessed maces to create minefields
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>>166750670
The way compound bows work is the string itself can be pulled further, which removes the need for the bow itself to flex.

The reason the bows have pulleys is that the string is more efficient at collecting energy at less strength required to pull the bow.

If the game had pulley bows str wouldn't affect damage as much, only how fast you can draw it, since compound bows are slower to pull than regular bows.

This is starting to get way too technical for my english skills.
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>>166751202
wait, you can use lightning blade with dragonslayer axe, or are you tumblebuffing?
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I just beat dragonslayer and hit lvl 80 i have 40vig/35end/20str/20dex Ive been using a raw astora sword for most of the game but i think its time has passed it was only doing around 160 damage per hit buffed with fire resin, I love the astoras moveset though any suggestions on what i should switch too?
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>>166751687
at 60fth, 30str and 23 dex refined lothric gs +10 with lightning blade has 850AR
with the same stats and dart casted lightning blade on lightning refined gs it's only 709AR
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>>166752134
>>166752134
>>166752134
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>>166752082
>40vig/35end/20str/20dex
>Using raw weapon with fire resin.

eh... What?
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>>166752123
I meant lightning infused gs derp
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>>166752239
I pumped vig and end first, I pretty much just had the reqs to use astoras sword for most of the game so raw was best to use + resins.
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>>166750736
>First 3 are problems with the matchmaking system, not the invasions themselves.
>second 3 are exaggerations of non issues.
>I said seeds. I gave you the solution to warmth
>Why do you want them to lose their souls so bad you dickhead? And that has no relevance anyway.
>10 minutes is not insanely short.
>Extremely easy for blues to get cracked blue eye orbs, can also invade any area in the game using them from e.g Heide's Tower.
also why did you make a double paragraph halfway through a sentence?
>Boo hoo there's an arena

Stuff I've ignored is legitimate that I forgot about.
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>>166750736
>cannot use any switches, open 90% of doors or operate 90% of elevators

I sort of have the inverse of this problem, except I have it with Dark Souls 3 Co-Op. In many ways Dark Souls 3 feels like a downgrade. If not from a strictly Dark Souls standpoint, than from a Souls (or Souls esque) standpoint in general. Coming off of Bloodborne, Character Creation doesn't feel as intuitive and your ability to interact with your host's world is really limited. I guess its because in Bloodborne, you're "really there" and in Souls you're just an autonomous Phantom, but it's kind of a pain in the ass and immersion-breaking that I can't unlock shortcuts in my bro's world.
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